Re: [expert] Western Digital WD1200AB harddisk - any problems?
g wrote: some search sites respect boolean in uppercase. Thanks, I'll try that. Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Maxtor 4G120J6 okay? (was: Re: [expert] Western Digital WD1200AB harddisk - any problems?)
As for the new IBMs, I'll try them when they take down that advisory about not running 24/7. Til then, they are welcome to their technological innovations without me. Does that advisory just recommend against leaving them on full time or are they expecting 80-90% actual use (as in head movement, drive light on) during that 24/7? I run my 30 G Destkstar 24/7 and it actually doesn't just sit idle - it does some work for news/mail and other stuff, but may be idle (i.e., just spinning) for some lengths of time. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Western Digital WD1200AB harddisk - any problems?
Alexander Skewer wrote: et wrote: Western Digital does NOT support linux, the newer drives (ata100) do NOT do proper CRC error checking, does and will not warrenty any drive used in Linux for problems with any filesystem other than fat16, NTFS, fat32, ok, et, who does warranty hdd in linux?? not intent to offensively question your knowledge, just that i have read it elsewhere, ??linuxhardware.org?? ;) Ah, yes, that's what I remembered. Thanks a lot; so I'll not buy WD. ata100 was not around back in the days with WD harddisks. Do these problems still exist? ata100 is 'current days'. :) ata100 is not ata100 thru _all_ ata100 'standard' systems along with other problems by chipset oems, mainboard oems, hd oems, wd among. when in doubt, ask, search... i recall civ's comments. have on this system in oos archives. problem of searching, do not have a good branching filter for msbsos. could run in linux if nothing pops up for you and their is desire need. wmrtgt. mbs. do trust wd to know if they have an ata100 interface problem. trust it to be a problem they are working on. no sales in linux is not good, tho they may not admit openly to it. they will not stay 'non-compatible'. irc, search zdnet site for article. eweek ran it. serveral zdnet news list ran links to wd/ata100/?linux?. peace out, rocky. tc,hago. g . -- think green... save a tree, save a life, save time, save bandwidth, save storage. send email, text/plain - disable pgp/gpg/geek code =+= if you are proud to be an american, then buy made in america. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Western Digital WD1200AB harddisk - any problems?
Randy Kramer wrote: Thanks, looks like it didn't make any difference in this case (looks like the search doesn't recognize and or or as combining words. In other words, the and is implied. So, dropping the saves some typing. some search sites respect boolean in uppercase. peace out, rocky. tc,hago. g . -- think green... save a tree, save a life, save time, save bandwidth, save storage. send email, text/plain - disable pgp/gpg/geek code =+= if you are proud to be an american, then buy made in america. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Western Digital WD1200AB harddisk - any problems?
On July 21, 2002 06:36 am, Alexander Skwar wrote: Hello. I'm thinking about buying a Western Digital WD1200AB harddisk. I remember that there were some problems back in the days with WD hard disks. Do these problems still exist? Thanks, Alexander Skwar WD's are awful, awful drives. They aren't built right. We found one in our old production systems at work that got stuck trying to read something and was clicking like a broken record. Naturally the constant attempts and failures to read from the drive caused it to overheat. We had to unplug it, let it sit for ten minutes, wrap it in plastic and put it in the freezer for an hour to get it in shape to run long enough to back it up to tape. There are alot of better choices out there, don't cheap out on the harddrive. Maxtor and Fujitsu are my favourites. I'm using one 40Gb Fujitsu (MPG3409AT) and one 40Gb Maxtor (6L040J2) at the moment without any grief. Both are running quite happily at UDMA5 speeds. Richie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Western Digital WD1200AB harddisk - any problems?
Randy Kramer wrote on Sun, Jul 21, 2002 at 08:49:18AM -0400 : found for 'wd and civileme and crc and ata100' whether the search term Drop the and. civileme wd crc Blue skies... Todd -- Todd Lyons -- MandrakeSoft, Inc. http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ UNIX was not designed to stop you from doing stupid things, because that would also stop you from doing clever things. -- Doug Gwyn Cooker Version mandrake-release-8.3-0.2mdk Kernel 2.4.18-21mdk msg56417/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [expert] Western Digital WD1200AB harddisk - any problems?
Todd Lyons wrote: Randy Kramer wrote on Sun, Jul 21, 2002 at 08:49:18AM -0400 : found for 'wd and civileme and crc and ata100' whether the search term Drop the and. civileme wd crc Thanks, looks like it didn't make any difference in this case (looks like the search doesn't recognize and or or as combining words. In other words, the and is implied. So, dropping the saves some typing. regards, Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Western Digital WD1200AB harddisk - any problems?
civileme wrote: Well, there are two sets of archives to search, and my post(s) on WD are more likely to be on the older archives (prior to Jan 2002)... Thanks, you're right in this case -- found the post. But, try this: * go to, for example, http://www.mandrake.com/en/archives/newbie/2002-06/ * copy the title of one of the emails into the search box (with or without enclosing quotes) (I copied enlarge a linux partition, an email within the first 20 on that page.) * press enter to initiate a search * view the results I never get a hit on an email that I *know* is there. I would put a fewer terms in the search to begin with and then add more if I got too many responses. Always good advice, but I'd sure like to be able to search for a phrase that I know is there. regards, Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Western Digital WD1200AB harddisk - any problems?
On Sunday 21 July 2002 08:28 am, Chuck Shirley wrote: The same search at Maxtor returns 112 hits. While most of their documents seem to be Micro-$entric, there is at least more than such passing mention as what is made at WD, and I would say that they are far more friendly to Linux than WD seems to be. Oh yeah, I really like maxtor more than ever. I've had this 80 gig ata133 that would never work even after getting a mobo with a 133 controller. So I call their support line this past week and told them my drama in terms of linux and they said yeah, sounds like a bad drive. We'll send you a new one, just send back the bad one within 30 days. You can't beat dat. -s Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Western Digital WD1200AB harddisk - any problems?
I'm not sure about the WD120AB but last year I had to replace a WD307AA and it was only a year old. That's my first HD failure and definitely last WesternDigital harddrive. It took them about three weeks to send me the replacement. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Western Digital WD1200AB harddisk - any problems?
Sevatio wrote on Sun, Jul 21, 2002 at 08:02:00PM -0700 : I'm not sure about the WD120AB but last year I had to replace a WD307AA and it was only a year old. That's my first HD failure and definitely last WesternDigital harddrive. It took them about three weeks to send me the replacement. I lost 3 WD drives in 3 months. All the same model. :( I gave the dead drive to a friend. She RMA'd it. When the replacement came in, she gave it to another friend. He installed it in his computer and it was DOA. Bad juju. Blue skies... Todd -- Todd Lyons -- MandrakeSoft, Inc. http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ UNIX was not designed to stop you from doing stupid things, because that would also stop you from doing clever things. -- Doug Gwyn Cooker Version mandrake-release-8.3-0.2mdk Kernel 2.4.18-21mdk msg56435/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [expert] Western Digital WD1200AB harddisk - any problems?
On Sun, 21 Jul 2002 17:31:44 -0500 s [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 21 July 2002 08:28 am, Chuck Shirley wrote: The same search at Maxtor returns 112 hits. While most of their documents seem to be Micro-$entric, there is at least more than such passing mention as what is made at WD, and I would say that they are far more friendly to Linux than WD seems to be. Oh yeah, I really like maxtor more than ever. I've had this 80 gig ata133 that would never work even after getting a mobo with a 133 controller. So I call their support line this past week and told them my drama in terms of linux and they said yeah, sounds like a bad drive. We'll send you a new one, just send back the bad one within 30 days. You can't beat dat. -s They are one of two companies I've dealt with like this ... The other is Epson. 9month old printer went south. They sent me a new one, and apologised that since they no longer made my model They'd have to send me the upgrade. Even sent me a new set of ink cartridges to replace the ones I just bought for the old one. All at no charge. Next time I buy a printer for personal or corporate use. Guess who gets the nod. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Western Digital WD1200AB harddisk - any problems?
Todd Lyons wrote: Sevatio wrote on Sun, Jul 21, 2002 at 08:02:00PM -0700 : I'm not sure about the WD120AB but last year I had to replace a WD307AA and it was only a year old. That's my first HD failure and definitely last WesternDigital harddrive. It took them about three weeks to send me the replacement. I lost 3 WD drives in 3 months. All the same model. :( I gave the dead drive to a friend. She RMA'd it. When the replacement came in, she gave it to another friend. He installed it in his computer and it was DOA. Bad juju. Blue skies... Todd Hmmm, reminds me of ordering tropical fish, COD and DOA... ;-) Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Western Digital WD1200AB harddisk - any problems?
On Monday 22 July 2002 05:31 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: On Sun, 21 Jul 2002 17:31:44 -0500 Oh yeah, I really like maxtor more than ever. I've had this 80 gig ata133 that would never work even after getting a mobo with a 133 controller. So I call their support line this past week and told them my drama in terms of linux and they said yeah, sounds like a bad drive. We'll send you a new one, just send back the bad one within 30 days. You can't beat dat. -s They are one of two companies I've dealt with like this ... The other is Epson. 9month old printer went south. They sent me a new one, and apologised that since they no longer made my model They'd have to send me the upgrade. Even sent me a new set of ink cartridges to replace the ones I just bought for the old one. All at no charge. Next time I buy a printer for personal or corporate use. Guess who gets the nod. James yeah, that is cool. I have an epson printer, but I bet it's out of warranty. But also, I had a Leadtec geforce2 that died. I sent it back and they called Friday and said they didn't have any more, so'll they just have to send me a geforce3. Darn! I guess I'll have to take it. :D -s Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Western Digital WD1200AB harddisk - any problems?
On Mon, 22 Jul 2002 00:48:01 -0500 s [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 22 July 2002 05:31 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: On Sun, 21 Jul 2002 17:31:44 -0500 Oh yeah, I really like maxtor more than ever. I've had this 80 gig ata133 that would never work even after getting a mobo with a 133 controller. So I call their support line this past week and told them my drama in terms of linux and they said yeah, sounds like a bad drive. We'll send you a new one, just send back the bad one within 30 days. You can't beat dat. -s They are one of two companies I've dealt with like this ... The other is Epson. 9month old printer went south. They sent me a new one, and apologised that since they no longer made my model They'd have to send me the upgrade. Even sent me a new set of ink cartridges to replace the ones I just bought for the old one. All at no charge. Next time I buy a printer for personal or corporate use. Guess who gets the nod. James yeah, that is cool. I have an epson printer, but I bet it's out of warranty. But also, I had a Leadtec geforce2 that died. I sent it back and they called Friday and said they didn't have any more, so'll they just have to send me a geforce3. Darn! I guess I'll have to take it. :D -s Dang dude, my condolences. *grin* Proof that not every company is run by the Bill Gates rulebook and audited by Arthur Anderson. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
