RE: [expert] AMD Chips and Mandrake (correction)
On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, you wrote: > Of course, that's what I meant. Thanx for catching me! > No sweat. :-) I've mis-typed more than enough for both of us. :-) John
RE: [expert] AMD Chips and Mandrake (correction)
Of course, that's what I meant. Thanx for catching me! At 10:18 PM 07/23/2000 -0400, you wrote: >On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, you wrote: >> Civileme recommends this board, but it has no ide sockets >> and only 5 PCI. I goatta have at least one ide. Let's >> try again, wouldja? Thanx, all. >> >Err... do you mean ISA? IDE is hard drive. :-) > John > >
Re: [expert] AMD Chips and Mandrake
On Sun, Jul 23, 2000 at 03:47:37PM -0400, Charles A Edwards wrote: > > I just got (about 2 weeks ago), an AMD Athlon 750 and it's running > > Mandrake 7.0 without a hiccup. No problems whatsoever. Makes a darn > > good server. > > I have a Athlon 650 which I built myself . It has a FIC SD-11 MOBO with VIA > chipset and I installed and am running 7.1 with no problem. No uptime > figure, I dual boot it with Win2000. Yeah, that's what I did with the 750, built it myself. It's an ASUS m/b, and it works real slick. I put 7.0 on it for now until I'm certain that 7.1 will behave properly as far as the servers and stuff go (call me paranoid, but I have to ensure it's stable since I host people's domains on it and such), but I've had 7.1 on this P2-350 since 7.1b3 and have no problems at all, so I imagine in the next month or so when I feel like doing the extra work, I will upgrade the 750 to run 7.1. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], OpenPGP key available on www.keyserver.net Freezer Burn BBS: telnet://bbs.freezer-burn.org . ICQ: 54924721 Webmaster for the Linux Portal Site Freezer Burn: http://www.freezer-burn.org Current Linux uptime: 3 days 1 hour 30 minutes.
RE: [expert] AMD Chips and Mandrake
On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, you wrote: > Civileme recommends this board, but it has no ide sockets > and only 5 PCI. I goatta have at least one ide. Let's > try again, wouldja? Thanx, all. > Err... do you mean ISA? IDE is hard drive. :-) John
RE: [expert] AMD Chips and Mandrake
>From my experience (running a K6-3 AMD with Mandrake 7.0) is a hassle free combination. Never had any problems with the processor or with performance etc. Of course I did re-compiled the kernel and did a bit of tweaking on the startup services etc... but overall its going fine for quite a while now. Makis. -Original Message- From: Civileme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, 23 July 2000 8:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [expert] AMD Chips and Mandrake On Sat, 22 Jul 2000, you wrote: > I have had complaints from customers about the fact that mandrake is > compiled for the Pentium class systems when using an Athlon. Have any of > you had the same problem. My experience is with the K6-2 and K6-3. I want > to install on an Athlon but have my doubts. Any comments is appriciated. > > Debie Scholz > I have done about 10 K-6, 37 Celeron, 2 P-II/III, and one Duron (Athlon with a smaller on-chip cache and for Socket A) I have had more difficulty with the Celeron Systems, but not processor troubles, chipsets only. All the Processors work very well. The one Chip I have heard some things about, and they were chipset dependant, was the K6-3, and that concerned the On-Chip L2 Cache and the resulting speed performance. Since AMD dropped the K6-3, there _may_ be some substance to those complaints; however, I have had reports of flawless multiyear performance from K6-3s as well. My Duron experience was _uninteresting_ AMD and Mandrake made it way too easy to set that one up. Civileme
RE: [expert] AMD Chips and Mandrake
Civileme recommends this board, but it has no ide sockets and only 5 PCI. I goatta have at least one ide. Let's try again, wouldja? Thanx, all. At 17:13 07/22/2000 -0800, you wrote: >On Sat, 22 Jul 2000, you wrote: >> I am thinking about buying an Athlon motherboard. >> I would welcome comments (good and bad) about the >> ones out there. I would probably run 800MHz. I >> would like to have at least one ide socket for my >> sound card. Please advise if you have good/bad to >> say about any particular boards. >> >> > >I have never been as impressed by any other Motherboard as I am by the AZ11 >from FIC. I would not hesitate to recommend it in the basis of my experience >for either socket A chip, the Duron 600, 650 or 700, or any speed of the Athlon >Thunderbird. My little DUron 600 with its clock forced to 600 instead of >freewheeling will outbenchmark a Xeon IIIB 700. The Athlon T-Bird series at >800 and 850 rival the P-III coppermine at 1GHz, and the 900 outperforms it. > >Performance considerations aside, I am running cool when the board works its >way up to the optimum, which for my setup turned out to be about 672 or 112% >rated speed. I have PC133 SDRAM on board and somehow this little board manages >TWO fetches per cycle so its FSB really runs at twice the memory bus speed. I >would love to know more about that, and I am fairly certain it really does so >else I could not beat this Xeon on some throughput tasks, because it is clocked >higher and is nearly equal in pure processor performance with the edge to the >Xeon, but the Duron is surrounded with better support and runs at 37C pretty >constantly > >And I bought FIC because it was the only Socket A board available to me. Now I >am wondering if I will buy any other Socket A brand. I thought FIC was a >"slightly above average on SUper-7" with poor to fair performance in the BX >Chipsets, but this one showed me how wrong conclusions about "brand" >technologies can be. FIC outdid themselves and everyone else with this AZ11 >Board. > > >Civileme >
Re: [expert] AMD Chips and Mandrake
- Original Message - From: "Vincent Danen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [expert] AMD Chips and Mandrake > On Sat, Jul 22, 2000 at 01:44:10PM -0500, Debie wrote: > > > I have had complaints from customers about the fact that mandrake is > > compiled for the Pentium class systems when using an Athlon. Have any of > > you had the same problem. My experience is with the K6-2 and K6-3. I want > > to install on an Athlon but have my doubts. Any comments is appriciated. > > I just got (about 2 weeks ago), an AMD Athlon 750 and it's running > Mandrake 7.0 without a hiccup. No problems whatsoever. Makes a darn > good server. > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED], OpenPGP key available on www.keyserver.net > Freezer Burn BBS: telnet://bbs.freezer-burn.org . ICQ: 54924721 > Webmaster for the Linux Portal Site Freezer Burn: http://www.freezer-burn.org > > Current Linux uptime: 2 days 15 hours 4 minutes. > I have a Athlon 650 which I built myself . It has a FIC SD-11 MOBO with VIA chipset and I installed and am running 7.1 with no problem. No uptime figure, I dual boot it with Win2000. Charles
Re: [expert] AMD Chips and Mandrake
On Sat, Jul 22, 2000 at 01:44:10PM -0500, Debie wrote: > I have had complaints from customers about the fact that mandrake is > compiled for the Pentium class systems when using an Athlon. Have any of > you had the same problem. My experience is with the K6-2 and K6-3. I want > to install on an Athlon but have my doubts. Any comments is appriciated. I just got (about 2 weeks ago), an AMD Athlon 750 and it's running Mandrake 7.0 without a hiccup. No problems whatsoever. Makes a darn good server. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], OpenPGP key available on www.keyserver.net Freezer Burn BBS: telnet://bbs.freezer-burn.org . ICQ: 54924721 Webmaster for the Linux Portal Site Freezer Burn: http://www.freezer-burn.org Current Linux uptime: 2 days 15 hours 4 minutes.
Re: [expert] AMD Chips and Mandrake
On Sat, Jul 22, 2000 at 01:59:45PM -0800, Civileme wrote: > troubles, chipsets only. All the Processors work very well. The one Chip I > have heard some things about, and they were chipset dependant, was the K6-3, > and that concerned the On-Chip L2 Cache and the resulting speed performance. > Since AMD dropped the K6-3, there _may_ be some substance to those complaints; > however, I have had reports of flawless multiyear performance from K6-3s as > well. My first experience with Linux was with an AMD 200mmx - no problem. Now I run an AMD K6-3 450 and am very happy with it. I like to think AMD dropped the K6-3 to differentiate the Athlon sufficiently so people would buy it! :) -- Dennis Robertson 2/2 Sylvia Street NOOSAVILLE QLD 4566 Phone: 61 7 54742343 Mob: 0419 535539
Re: [expert] AMD Chips and Mandrake
I've run 6.0, 6.5 and 7.0 on my AMD K6 (home built system) witn no problems Lorne Sevatio Octavio wrote: > Are there any problems with using AMD chips for running Linux? > > Seve -- Lorne Schachter (732) 819-0460, (732)819-0460 (FAX) http://www.intact.com/~lorne begin:vcard n:Schachter;Lorne x-mozilla-html:TRUE adr:;; version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] x-mozilla-cpt:;-13760 fn:Lorne Schachter end:vcard
RE: [expert] AMD Chips and Mandrake
On Sat, 22 Jul 2000, you wrote: > I am thinking about buying an Athlon motherboard. > I would welcome comments (goor and bad) about the > ones out there. I would probably run 800MHz. I > would like to have at least one ide socket for my > sound card. Please advise if you have good/bad to > say about any particular boards. > > I have never been as impressed by any other Motherboard as I am by the AZ11 from FIC. I would not hesitate to recommend it in the basis of my experience for either socket A chip, the Duron 600, 650 or 700, or any speed of the Athlon Thunderbird. My little DUron 600 with its clock forced to 600 instead of freewheeling will outbenchmark a Xeon IIIB 700. The Athlon T-Bird series at 800 and 850 rival the P-III coppermine at 1GHz, and the 900 outperforms it. Performance considerations aside, I am running cool when the board works its way up to the optimum, which for my setup turned out to be about 672 or 112% rated speed. I have PC133 SDRAM on board and somehow this little board manages TWO fetches per cycle so its FSB really runs at twice the memory bus speed. I would love to know more about that, and I am fairly certain it really does so else I could not beat this Xeon on some throughput tasks, because it is clocked higher and is nearly equal in pure processor performance with the edge to the Xeon, but the Duron is surrounded with better support and runs at 37C pretty constantly And I bought FIC because it was the only Socket A board available to me. Now I am wondering if I will buy any other Socket A brand. I thought FIC was a "slightly above average on SUper-7" with poor to fair performance in the BX Chipsets, but this one showed me how wrong conclusions about "brand" technologies can be. FIC outdid themselves and everyone else with this AZ11 Board. Civileme
RE: [expert] AMD Chips and Mandrake
I am thinking about buying an Athlon motherboard. I would welcome comments (goor and bad) about the ones out there. I would probably run 800MHz. I would like to have at least one ide socket for my sound card. Please advise if you have good/bad to say about any particular boards. [Portions snipped] At 13:59 07/22/2000 -0800, you wrote: >On Sat, 22 Jul 2000, you wrote: >> I have had complaints from customers about the fact that mandrake is >> compiled for the Pentium class systems when using an Athlon. >have heard some things about, and they were chipset dependant, was the K6-3, >and that concerned the On-Chip L2 Cache and the resulting speed performance. >Since AMD dropped the K6-3, there _may_ be some substance to those complaints; >however, I have had reports of flawless multiyear performance from K6-3s as >well. >
Re: [expert] AMD Chips and Mandrake
Here at our LUG headquarters, we use 2 Athlon 600mhz boxes, and Mandrake 7.1 The boxes absolutely rock. No problems what-so-ever, We also have 2 500mhz AMD K-6/2 boxes and they are just as awsome, but the Athlons run games alot faster (Quake III, Unreal Tournament, etc..) John CLlug http://www.cllug.org __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
RE: [expert] AMD Chips and Mandrake
On Sat, 22 Jul 2000, you wrote: > I have had complaints from customers about the fact that mandrake is > compiled for the Pentium class systems when using an Athlon. Have any of > you had the same problem. My experience is with the K6-2 and K6-3. I want > to install on an Athlon but have my doubts. Any comments is appriciated. > > Debie Scholz > I have done about 10 K-6, 37 Celeron, 2 P-II/III, and one Duron (Athlon with a smaller on-chip cache and for Socket A) I have had more difficulty with the Celeron Systems, but not processor troubles, chipsets only. All the Processors work very well. The one Chip I have heard some things about, and they were chipset dependant, was the K6-3, and that concerned the On-Chip L2 Cache and the resulting speed performance. Since AMD dropped the K6-3, there _may_ be some substance to those complaints; however, I have had reports of flawless multiyear performance from K6-3s as well. My Duron experience was _uninteresting_ AMD and Mandrake made it way too easy to set that one up. Civileme
RE: [expert] AMD Chips and Mandrake
Mandrake runs great on an Athlon - I'm doing right now, in fact. -Chris On Sat, 22 Jul 2000, you wrote: > I have had complaints from customers about the fact that mandrake is > compiled for the Pentium class systems when using an Athlon. Have any of > you had the same problem. My experience is with the K6-2 and K6-3. I want > to install on an Athlon but have my doubts. Any comments is appriciated. > > Debie Scholz > > -Original Message- > From: Ellick Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2000 9:02 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [expert] AMD Chips and Mandrake > > > On Sat, 22 Jul 2000, Sevatio Octavio wrote: > > > Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 10:27:53 GMT > > From: Sevatio Octavio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [expert] AMD Chips and Mandrake > > > > Are there any problems with using AMD chips for running Linux? > > > > Not as far as I've seen, I have a K6-2, K6, and an Athlon. They seem to > work as equally well as the Intel counterparts in everything I've tried so > far. > > > Seve > > > > -- > Regards, > > Ellick Chan > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 22
RE: [expert] AMD Chips and Mandrake
I( have mandrake 6.5 & 7.1 running on AMD chips and no problems. 73, ttyl Don On Sat, 22 Jul 2000, you wrote: > I have had complaints from customers about the fact that mandrake is > compiled for the Pentium class systems when using an Athlon. Have any of > you had the same problem. My experience is with the K6-2 and K6-3. I want > to install on an Athlon but have my doubts. Any comments is appriciated. > > Debie Scholz > > -Original Message- > From: Ellick Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2000 9:02 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [expert] AMD Chips and Mandrake > > > On Sat, 22 Jul 2000, Sevatio Octavio wrote: > > > Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 10:27:53 GMT > > From: Sevatio Octavio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [expert] AMD Chips and Mandrake > > > > Are there any problems with using AMD chips for running Linux? > > > > Not as far as I've seen, I have a K6-2, K6, and an Athlon. They seem to > work as equally well as the Intel counterparts in everything I've tried so > far. > > > Seve > > > > -- > Regards, > > Ellick Chan > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 22
RE: [expert] AMD Chips and Mandrake
On Sat, 22 Jul 2000, you wrote: > I have had complaints from customers about the fact that mandrake is > compiled for the Pentium class systems when using an Athlon. Have any of > you had the same problem. My experience is with the K6-2 and K6-3. I want > to install on an Athlon but have my doubts. Any comments is appriciated. > An Athlon *IS* a 586-class CPU (or better.) IT should work just fine. Matter of fact, a friend of mine was having problems with his Windows box on his Athlon, but worked beauftifully under Linux. :-) John
RE: [expert] AMD Chips and Mandrake
I have had complaints from customers about the fact that mandrake is compiled for the Pentium class systems when using an Athlon. Have any of you had the same problem. My experience is with the K6-2 and K6-3. I want to install on an Athlon but have my doubts. Any comments is appriciated. Debie Scholz -Original Message- From: Ellick Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2000 9:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] AMD Chips and Mandrake On Sat, 22 Jul 2000, Sevatio Octavio wrote: > Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 10:27:53 GMT > From: Sevatio Octavio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [expert] AMD Chips and Mandrake > > Are there any problems with using AMD chips for running Linux? > Not as far as I've seen, I have a K6-2, K6, and an Athlon. They seem to work as equally well as the Intel counterparts in everything I've tried so far. > Seve > -- Regards, Ellick Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jul 22
Re: [expert] AMD Chips and Mandrake
On Sat, 22 Jul 2000, Sevatio Octavio wrote: > Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 10:27:53 GMT > From: Sevatio Octavio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [expert] AMD Chips and Mandrake > > Are there any problems with using AMD chips for running Linux? > Not as far as I've seen, I have a K6-2, K6, and an Athlon. They seem to work as equally well as the Intel counterparts in everything I've tried so far. > Seve > -- Regards, Ellick Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jul 22
Re: [expert] AMD Chips and Mandrake
I've had none, Works better than with Windows. AMD K6-2 450 192MB SDRAM on a FIC-503+ Motherboard. Sevatio Octavio wrote: > > Are there any problems with using AMD chips for running Linux? > > Seve
