Re: [expert] CD/RW Problem with MDK 8.1~~
skidley wrote: On Sat, 5 Jan 2002, Ric Tibbetts wrote: Ok, now I'm frustrated. I have a SCSI CD/RW (Yamaha). that has worked flawlessly for a long I can't believe how many people answered with the usual append lilo.conf load ide-scsi stuff when you had SCSI in very bold capital letters. Why would anyone need scsi emulation on a SCSI drive? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Well, in defense of myself I did say replace ide-scsi with the appropriate driver which in his case would be sg or something to that effect, even though in the CD-Writer Howto it says that all SCSI drivers should work. Speaking of which... you are guilty of the same criime, brother, that others made on this list. How are you going to point out the problem without providing the solution? That is just wasting space and time. Chances are people are hurriedly reading and answering the list, while hoping that the person receiving help from them has enough IQ to substitute the driver we specified with one that he was given... correction, had given us in the list. You forgot to mention the device, also while we are pointing out things. What if his cdrw is not /dev/hdc? I guess he would just be stuck waiting to send another email message asking if it would be a good idea to put the device, that he knows that he has in place of the one we mentioned to him? And finally.. the last I checked this was a voluntary list for experts. I don't mean to seem upset but I am ... a little. I am mostly on this list providing support. I rarely ask for helop because not much change at my end that I don't conquer on my own or with the help of people on this list. I more then anything spend my time providing solutions, hunting down answers, and all around just supporting where ever I can and then you come and provide this type of feedback? With no correctoins or solutions whatsoever? Sometimes one should look at himself before he starts fires (Especially, when he is wearing gasoline drawers in a pool of alchohol stepping out of a kerosene shower with short matches wearing a C4 vest with a very very short (emphasis on short) wick. There I have said my peace and nuked this letter. Take this as constructive criticism and be mindful of others efforts and feelings in the future. . o O (I can't believe I took this personal!? Must be the hundreds of emails I go through everyday trying to help for free or something?)cheers and I apologize. altoine Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CD/RW Problem with MDK 8.1~~
skidley wrote: On Sat, 5 Jan 2002, Ric Tibbetts wrote: Ok, now I'm frustrated. I have a SCSI CD/RW (Yamaha). that has worked flawlessly for a long I can't believe how many people answered with the usual append lilo.conf load ide-scsi stuff when you had SCSI in very bold capital letters. Why would anyone need scsi emulation on a SCSI drive? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com his cdrw uses an Adaptec 2930U and so you will need an aic7xxx driver to use this writer. Here are the links; http://wt.xpilot.org/cgi-bin/winni/lsc-orig.pl #list of cdrw compatibility http://people.redhat.com/dledford/aic7xxx.html #old site for this driver http://people.freebsd.org/~gibbs/linux/#new site for this driver This should solve your problems, enjoy altoine Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CD/RW Problem with MDK 8.1~~
nds wrote: his cdrw uses an Adaptec 2930U and so you will need an aic7xxx driver to use this writer. Here are the links; Okay, thats the same exact SCSI adaptor I have. It works fine with Mandrake 8.1 out of the box. I use a Plextor CDRW, however. -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CD/RW Problem with MDK 8.1~~
Ronald J. Hall wrote: nds wrote: his cdrw uses an Adaptec 2930U and so you will need an aic7xxx driver to use this writer. Here are the links; Okay, thats the same exact SCSI adaptor I have. It works fine with Mandrake 8.1 out of the box. I use a Plextor CDRW, however. I'll try this again: This is fixed! There were some device files missing (specifically: /dev/sgn), and the sg module wasn't loaded. Once I did a mknod on the device files, it came to life! -- Ric Tibbetts Linux registration number: 55684 If you want to help advertise Linux - point your friends to http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CD/RW Problem with MDK 8.1
Ok, a little more information: running cdrecord -scanbus: # cdrecord -scanbus Cdrecord 1.10 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2001 Jörg Schilling cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open SCSI driver. cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. Make sure you are root. # cat /proc/scsi/scsi Attached devices: other devices removed for clarity Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 05 Lun: 00 Vendor: YAMAHA Model: CRW8424S Rev: 1.0j Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02 other deviced removed for clarity Ok, it's there. I can mount the device with a regular CD installed with no problem, but cdrecord won't recognise it. And again: It used to work. I'd really appreciate some advise on this one! -- Ric Tibbetts Linux registration number: 55684 If you want to help advertise Linux - point your friends to http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CD/RW Problem with MDK 8.1
What is the output of lsmod - looks like the scsi emulation is not loaded. For me I have (extraneous modules cut out): sg 28016 0 (autoclean) sr_mod 14208 0 (autoclean) ide-scsi8112 0 scsi_mod 90880 3 [sg sr_mod ide-scsi] and the following in modules.conf: probeall scsi_hostadapter ide-scsi and append= hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-floppy devfs=nomount nobiospnp in lilo.conf - hdc is the cdwriter. for me, 8.1 set this all up with no problems - older releases required manual intervention! BillK On Sun, 2002-01-06 at 16:10, Ric Tibbetts wrote: Ok, a little more information: running cdrecord -scanbus: # cdrecord -scanbus Cdrecord 1.10 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2001 Jörg Schilling cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open SCSI driver. cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. Make sure you are root. # cat /proc/scsi/scsi Attached devices: other devices removed for clarity Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 05 Lun: 00 Vendor: YAMAHA Model: CRW8424S Rev: 1.0j Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02 other deviced removed for clarity Ok, it's there. I can mount the device with a regular CD installed with no problem, but cdrecord won't recognise it. And again: It used to work. I'd really appreciate some advise on this one! -- Ric Tibbetts Linux registration number: 55684 If you want to help advertise Linux - point your friends to http://counter.li.org/ This message has been 'sanitized'. This means that potentially dangerous content has been rewritten or removed. The following log describes which actions were taken. Sanitizer (start=1010304972): Part (pos=2658): SanitizeFile (filename=unnamed.txt, mimetype=text/plain): Match (rule=2): Enforced policy: accept Part (pos=3696): SanitizeFile (filename=message.footer, mimetype=text/plain): Match (rule=default): Enforced policy: defang Replaced mime type with: application/DEFANGED-662 Replaced file name with: message_footer.DEFANGED-662 Total modifications so far: 1 Anomy 0.0.0 : Sanitizer.pm $Id: Sanitizer.pm,v 1.32 2001/10/11 19:27:15 bre Exp $ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CD/RW Problem with MDK 8.1
Hi! Some ideas: 1) add something like this to /etc/lilo.conf append= hdc=ide-scsi see below: image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.8-26mdk label=linux root=/dev/hdb5 initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.8-26mdk.img append= hdc=ide-scsi devfs=mount read-only 2) assure that SG driver is installed #modprobe sg Best regards Erik Kaffehr söndag 06 januari 2002 09:10 skrev du: Ok, a little more information: running cdrecord -scanbus: # cdrecord -scanbus Cdrecord 1.10 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2001 Jörg Schilling cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open SCSI driver. cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. Make sure you are root. # cat /proc/scsi/scsi Attached devices: other devices removed for clarity Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 05 Lun: 00 Vendor: YAMAHA Model: CRW8424S Rev: 1.0j Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02 other deviced removed for clarity Ok, it's there. I can mount the device with a regular CD installed with no problem, but cdrecord won't recognise it. And again: It used to work. I'd really appreciate some advise on this one! -- Erik Kaffehr[EMAIL PROTECTED] alt. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mariebergsvägen 53 +46 155 219338 (home) S-611 66 Nyköping +46 155 263515 (office) Sweden -- Message sent using 100% recycled electrons -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CD/RW Problem with MDK 8.1
Thanks Bill! I shouldn't need emulation, it's a full SCSI system (no IDE anywhere near it), and the device works as a regular CDrom. But, lsmod: # lsmod extraneous modules removed aic7xxx 113324 5 sd_mod 11572 5 scsi_mod 94684 3 [st aic7xxx sd_mod] Modules.conf contains: probeall aic7xxx aic7xxx And I don't need the ide - scsi emulation, so there's nothing in lilo.conf about it. Ric Bill Kenworthy wrote: What is the output of lsmod - looks like the scsi emulation is not loaded. For me I have (extraneous modules cut out): sg 28016 0 (autoclean) sr_mod 14208 0 (autoclean) ide-scsi8112 0 scsi_mod 90880 3 [sg sr_mod ide-scsi] and the following in modules.conf: probeall scsi_hostadapter ide-scsi and append= hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-floppy devfs=nomount nobiospnp in lilo.conf - hdc is the cdwriter. for me, 8.1 set this all up with no problems - older releases required manual intervention! BillK On Sun, 2002-01-06 at 16:10, Ric Tibbetts wrote: Ok, a little more information: running cdrecord -scanbus: # cdrecord -scanbus Cdrecord 1.10 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2001 Jörg Schilling cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open SCSI driver. cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. Make sure you are root. # cat /proc/scsi/scsi Attached devices: other devices removed for clarity Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 05 Lun: 00 Vendor: YAMAHA Model: CRW8424S Rev: 1.0j Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02 other deviced removed for clarity Ok, it's there. I can mount the device with a regular CD installed with no problem, but cdrecord won't recognise it. And again: It used to work. I'd really appreciate some advise on this one! -- Ric Tibbetts Linux registration number: 55684 If you want to help advertise Linux - point your friends to http://counter.li.org/ This message has been 'sanitized'. This means that potentially dangerous content has been rewritten or removed. The following log describes which actions were taken. Sanitizer (start=1010304972): Part (pos=2658): SanitizeFile (filename=unnamed.txt, mimetype=text/plain): Match (rule=2): Enforced policy: accept Part (pos=3696): SanitizeFile (filename=message.footer, mimetype=text/plain): Match (rule=default): Enforced policy: defang Replaced mime type with: application/DEFANGED-662 Replaced file name with: message_footer.DEFANGED-662 Total modifications so far: 1 Anomy 0.0.0 : Sanitizer.pm $Id: Sanitizer.pm,v 1.32 2001/10/11 19:27:15 bre Exp $ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Ric Tibbetts Linux registration number: 55684 If you want to help advertise Linux - point your friends to http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CD/RW Problem with MDK 8.1
Just a curiousity. If you do lsmod do you have ide-scsi and scsi_mod installed? What happens if you try to manually start them with insmod? James On Sat, 05 Jan 2002 21:40:13 -0800 Ric Tibbetts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, now I'm frustrated. I have a SCSI CD/RW (Yamaha). that has worked flawlessly for a long time. A while back, I changed the distro on the box from RedHat, to Mandrake 8.1. After that, my CD/RW won't work any more. it still functions as a regular CDrom, but the writer errors out. Cdrecord (and X-Cd-roast as well) return the error that it cannot detect the drive. This thing has always worked in the past. Can some kind sole point me in a direction to start looking as to why it died with MDK? Let me know what information you need, and I'll supply it. For starters, it's a Yamaha SCSI CD/RW, it's an old faithful drive. And as I said, the Cdrom part works great, it just won't write. If I try to run scanbus, I get: # cdrecord -scanbus Cdrecord 1.10 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2001 Jörg Schilling cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open SCSI driver. cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. Make sure you are root. And it used to work! Any suggestions on this? I've been digging through the archives for others that have dropped off the radar with 8.1, but haven't found anything yet. TIA!!! -- Ric Tibbetts Linux registration number: 55684 If you want to help advertise Linux - point your friends to http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CD/RW Problem with MDK 8.1
On Sat, 05 Jan 2002 21:40:13 -0800 Ric Tibbetts [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled in frustration: Ok, now I'm frustrated. I have a SCSI CD/RW (Yamaha). that has worked flawlessly for a long time. A while back, I changed the distro on the box from RedHat, to Mandrake 8.1. After that, my CD/RW won't work any more. it still functions as a regular CDrom, but the writer errors out. Cdrecord (and X-Cd-roast as well) return the error that it cannot detect the drive. = What does lilo.conf say about the drive?? Mike -- There is sobbing of the strong, And a pall upon the land; But the People in their weeping Bare the iron hand; Beware the People weeping When they bare the iron hand. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CD/RW Problem with MDK 8.1
Ric Tibbetts wrote: Ok, now I'm frustrated. I have a SCSI CD/RW (Yamaha). that has worked flawlessly for a long time. A while back, I changed the distro on the box from RedHat, to Mandrake 8.1. After that, my CD/RW won't work any more. it still functions as a regular CDrom, but the writer errors out. Cdrecord (and X-Cd-roast as well) return the error that it cannot detect the drive. This thing has always worked in the past. Can some kind sole point me in a direction to start looking as to why it died with MDK? Let me know what information you need, and I'll supply it. For starters, it's a Yamaha SCSI CD/RW, it's an old faithful drive. And as I said, the Cdrom part works great, it just won't write. If I try to run scanbus, I get: # cdrecord -scanbus Cdrecord 1.10 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2001 Jörg Schilling cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open SCSI driver. cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. Make sure you are root. And it used to work! Any suggestions on this? I've been digging through the archives for others that have dropped off the radar with 8.1, but haven't found anything yet. TIA!!! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Type /sbin/lsmod and let me know what you get. If you do not see ide-scsi or any other type of scsi module then we have found your problem. Just simply add to lilo hdc=ide-scsi or what ever is the device for your cdrw and the appropriate scsi module and then all should be well. HTH altoine Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CD/RW Problem with MDK 8.1
I had to modify modules.conf to get mine to work. I used info from the Cdwriter HOW-TO to modify it. It's interesting that so many people are having trouble getting their CD RW devices to work after upgrading from another distro or from Mandrake 7.2 to 8.1. At 09:40 PM 1/5/2002 -0800, Ric Tibbetts wrote: Ok, now I'm frustrated. I have a SCSI CD/RW (Yamaha). that has worked flawlessly for a long time. A while back, I changed the distro on the box from RedHat, to Mandrake 8.1. After that, my CD/RW won't work any more. it still functions as a regular CDrom, but the writer errors out. Cdrecord (and X-Cd-roast as well) return the error that it cannot detect the drive. This thing has always worked in the past. Can some kind sole point me in a direction to start looking as to why it died with MDK? Let me know what information you need, and I'll supply it. For starters, it's a Yamaha SCSI CD/RW, it's an old faithful drive. And as I said, the Cdrom part works great, it just won't write. If I try to run scanbus, I get: # cdrecord -scanbus Cdrecord 1.10 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2001 Jörg Schilling cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open SCSI driver. cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. Make sure you are root. And it used to work! Any suggestions on this? I've been digging through the archives for others that have dropped off the radar with 8.1, but haven't found anything yet. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CD/RW Problem with MDK 8.1
At 12:10 AM 1/6/2002 -0800, Ric Tibbetts wrote: Ok, a little more information: running cdrecord -scanbus: # cdrecord -scanbus Cdrecord 1.10 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2001 Jörg Schilling cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open SCSI driver. cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. Make sure you are root. Execute rpm -qa | grep cdrecord If it doesn't return rpm package info for cdrecord, then cdrecord isn't installed. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CD/RW Problem with MDK 8.1
On Sun, 2002-01-06 at 14:12, Lee Roberts wrote: At 12:10 AM 1/6/2002 -0800, Ric Tibbetts wrote: Ok, a little more information: running cdrecord -scanbus: # cdrecord -scanbus Cdrecord 1.10 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2001 Jörg Schilling cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open SCSI driver. cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. Make sure you are root. Execute rpm -qa | grep cdrecord If it doesn't return rpm package info for cdrecord, then cdrecord isn't installed. Cdrecord is installed, since the above message is *from* cdrecord; otherwise you would have gotten a Command not found from the shell, if it couldn't find cdrecord to execute. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- -- Michael J. Leone Registered Linux user #201348 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 50453890 AIM: MikeLeone PGP Fingerprint: 0AA8 DC47 CB63 AE3F C739 6BF9 9AB4 1EF6 5AA5 BCDF PGP public key: http://www.mike-leone.com/~turgon/turgon-public-key.gpg Foreman, roving paving crew, Dept. of Roads, Hades. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [expert] CD/RW Problem with MDK 8.1
Michael Leone wrote: On Sun, 2002-01-06 at 14:12, Lee Roberts wrote: At 12:10 AM 1/6/2002 -0800, Ric Tibbetts wrote: Ok, a little more information: running cdrecord -scanbus: # cdrecord -scanbus Cdrecord 1.10 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2001 Jörg Schilling cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open SCSI driver. cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. Make sure you are root. Execute rpm -qa | grep cdrecord If it doesn't return rpm package info for cdrecord, then cdrecord isn't installed. Cdrecord is installed, since the above message is *from* cdrecord; otherwise you would have gotten a Command not found from the shell, if it couldn't find cdrecord to execute. heh heh. Yeah, I know. :) but, as I said, it's working now. Thanks again for the assist! Ric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- -- Michael J. Leone Registered Linux user #201348 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 50453890 AIM: MikeLeone PGP Fingerprint: 0AA8 DC47 CB63 AE3F C739 6BF9 9AB4 1EF6 5AA5 BCDF PGP public key: http://www.mike-leone.com/~turgon/turgon-public-key.gpg Foreman, roving paving crew, Dept. of Roads, Hades. Name: signature.asc signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Ric Tibbetts Linux registration number: 55684 If you want to help advertise Linux - point your friends to http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CD/RW Problem with MDK 8.1
At 12:41 AM 1/6/2002 -0800, Ric Tibbetts wrote: Thanks Bill! I shouldn't need emulation, it's a full SCSI system (no IDE anywhere near it), and the device works as a regular CDrom. But, lsmod: # lsmod extraneous modules removed aic7xxx 113324 5 sd_mod 11572 5 scsi_mod 94684 3 [st aic7xxx sd_mod] Modules.conf contains: probeall aic7xxx aic7xxx And I don't need the ide - scsi emulation, so there's nothing in lilo.conf about it. Ric You are right, Ric. Most of the people on the list are not using a true scsi drive. So they are inclined to think in terms of IDE scsi emulation. However, you will still need mod sg and loop. Try modprode or ismod on these, and let us know the results. Also, check /etc/modules.conf, you might need something like alias scsi_hostadapter aic7xxx. J. Craig Woods UNIX/NT SA -Art is the illusion of spontaneity- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CD/RW Problem with MDK 8.1~~
skidley wrote: On Sat, 5 Jan 2002, Ric Tibbetts wrote: Ok, now I'm frustrated. I have a SCSI CD/RW (Yamaha). that has worked flawlessly for a long I can't believe how many people answered with the usual append lilo.conf load ide-scsi stuff when you had SCSI in very bold capital letters. Why would anyone need scsi emulation on a SCSI drive? Heh heh. yeah I know. but they were all trying to help as best they could, and I appreciate that! The truth is, not that many home users are on full SCSI systems. Most are running IDE, and they are just very used to having to install the ide-scsi module. However, I was able to get it working based on the advice received from this list, so I'm not knocking any of it. Sometimes, in trying to filter out the parts you don't need, you discover what you missed. ;) It's kind of like: In trying to explain a problem, you will go into greater detail, and usually find the answer. :) Thank again to everyone. -- Ric Tibbetts Linux registration number: 55684 If you want to help advertise Linux - point your friends to http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CD/RW Problem with MDK 8.1
Ric, grab the cdwriter howto and extract the test script and modify/run it and see what it shows. I still think you are missing some modules - I believe not all not all the ones normally loaded are ide specific, but sit on top of the scsi layer (which may be real scsi or ide-scsi. The test script should find and load the modules as needed. BillK On Mon, 2002-01-07 at 03:42, Ric Tibbetts wrote: Michael Leone wrote: On Sun, 2002-01-06 at 11:32, nds wrote: Ric Tibbetts wrote: Ok, now I'm frustrated. I have a SCSI CD/RW (Yamaha). that has worked flawlessly for a long Type /sbin/lsmod and let me know what you get. If you do not see ide-scsi or any other type of scsi module then we have found your problem. Just simply add to lilo hdc=ide-scsi or what ever is the device for your cdrw and the appropriate scsi module and then all should be well. HTH It's a real SCSI device; you do *not* need ide-scsi to make it work. I have a SCSI Plextor CD-RW, and I do not load ide-scsi, and it works just fine. Ide-scsi is only for IDE drives that you want emulated as SCSI; this is not an IDE drive. [root@minas-aran turgon]# lsmod | more Module Size Used byTainted: P isofs 24544 0 (autoclean) inflate_fs 18624 0 (autoclean) [isofs] sr_mod 13656 0 (autoclean) cdrom 27872 0 (autoclean) [sr_mod] snip sound and other modules BusLogic 87868 0 sd_mod 9784 0 (unused) scsi_mod 82844 3 [sr_mod BusLogic sd_mod] You're absolutely correct. It's a real SCSI device, in a SCSI only system (no IDE on the mobo at all!). So, I do not need the ide-scsi module. However, that not withstanding, the thing still don't woik as a CD Writer. It DOES however work as a CDrom. I can put regular CDs in it, mount them up, and they work just great. Also, the sytems harddrives are on the same scsi controller, so I know the controller is working, or the thing wouldn't be running. So something very strange is happening/not happening. To reitterate: # lsmod Module Size Used by extraneous modules removed from list sr_mod 14912 1 (autoclean) aic7xxx 113324 5 sd_mod 11572 5 scsi_mod 94684 3 [st aic7xxx sd_mod] # cat /proc/scsi/scsi Attached devices: Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00 Vendor: IBM Model: DORS-32160W !# Rev: WA3E Type: Direct-AccessANSI SCSI revision: 02 Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 01 Lun: 00 Vendor: IBM Model: DORS-32160W !# Rev: WA3E Type: Direct-AccessANSI SCSI revision: 02 Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 02 Lun: 00 Vendor: WDIGTL Model: WDE4360-1807A3 Rev: 1.80 Type: Direct-AccessANSI SCSI revision: 02 Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 05 Lun: 00 Vendor: YAMAHA Model: CRW8424S Rev: 1.0j Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 06 Lun: 00 Vendor: ARCHIVE Model: Python 00095-001 Rev: 5.ac Type: Sequential-AccessANSI SCSI revision: 02 So it looks like Channel 0, id 5, lun 0 Thus, I should be able to verify the drive with checkdrive: [root@ibu root]# cdrecord -v dev=5,0 -checkdrive Cdrecord 1.10 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2001 Jörg Schilling TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM scsidev: '5,0' scsibus: 0 target: 5 lun: 0 cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg5'. Cannot open SCSI driver. cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. Make sure you are root. (I have no idea what /dev/pg5 is supposed to be. It's a new error message, wasn't there yesterday). but, still, it's not recognising the drive. If I insert a prewritten CD, I can mount it. mount /mnt/cdrom executes without error. And a df reports it correctly: [root@ibu root]# df /mnt/cdrom Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/scd0 664224664224 0 100% /mnt/cdrom So... back to cdrecord: # cdrecord -scanbus Cdrecord 1.10 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2001 Jörg Schilling TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open SCSI driver. cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. Make sure you are root. nada. It's interesting that cdrecord -scanbus tells you to run cdrecord -scanbus... kinda circular isn't it? Any more guesses? I'm stumped! -- Ric Tibbetts Linux registration number: 55684 If you want to help advertise Linux - point your friends to http://counter.li.org/ This message has been 'sanitized'. This means that potentially dangerous content has been rewritten or removed. The following log describes which actions were taken. Sanitizer (start=1010346535):