Re: [expert] LM9.1 Supermount - Reliable?
On Monday 07 July 2003 03:59 pm, Richard Bown wrote: > I'm running supermount with 3 cdroms, two burners , no problems with K3b > as long as you tell it to eject after burning. > But I must admit there is the occasional time when something crashed > that no matter what you try that damn drawer just wont open. Not even > starting one of the cd players and opening the draw from there. Isn't the problem here that the burner is accessing the device directly, and bypassing the file system? This makes it incredibly hard for supermount to keep track of things. The burner app really should unmount the device before using it, and re-mount it afterwards. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] LM9.1 Supermount - Reliable?
Praedor Tempus wrote: I had thought that allowing k3b to install new lines into fstab, redundant entries for my /dev/cdrom and /dev/cdrom2, would cause problems. I thought that these k3b-added lines needed to be in replacement for the supermount entries. Having semi-redundant lines in fstab with and without supermount doesn't cause any problems? praedor No problems here. As long as they are not both mounted at the same time, it's not an issue. If both cdrom and cdrecorder were mounted at the same time, then there might be some file locking or other file access issues, but I am assuming that K3b is unmounting cdrom (which would have been automounted) before manually mounting cdrecorder. -- Dave Sherman MCSE, MCSA, CCNA "In total we spend almost three years of our lives on the toilet. It's natural and it's normal, so let's learn to say: 'Wow! That's a great toilet!'" - Jack Sim, Restroom Association President Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] LM9.1 Supermount - Reliable?
I'm running supermount with 3 cdroms, two burners , no problems with K3b as long as you tell it to eject after burning. But I must admit there is the occasional time when something crashed that no matter what you try that damn drawer just wont open. Not even starting one of the cd players and opening the draw from there. I'd say supermount is in the stage between nearly stable and idiot proof Richard On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 18:16, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > On Monday 07 July 2003 06:18 am, charlie wrote: > > On Mon, 7 Jul 2003 04:27 pm, Sevatio had this to contribute :- > > > > > I'm preparing to install LM9.1. I was just wondering if LM9.1 still has > > > supermount problems like LM9.0 had. > > > > It seems to depend who you talk to. I have trouble with all supermounts, > > others have none apparently when reading this list. > > > > Charlie > > Charlie, you're not alone - I usually try supermount with each new > distro release, but end up disabling it in the end. :-) -- Richard Bown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] LM9.1 Supermount - Reliable?
I had thought that allowing k3b to install new lines into fstab, redundant entries for my /dev/cdrom and /dev/cdrom2, would cause problems. I thought that these k3b-added lines needed to be in replacement for the supermount entries. Having semi-redundant lines in fstab with and without supermount doesn't cause any problems? praedor --- Dave Sherman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Praedor Tempus wrote: > > Hmpf. My supermount setup has both my CDROM and > CDRW > > setup as scsi-ide. If I try k3b, it fails to see > > them. All the other cdburner apps work fine with > > this. > > > > praedor > > In fstab, my cdrom mount point is setup for > supermount, but my > cdrecorder mount point is *not* setup for supermount > -- K3b mounts it on > demand, and presumably unmounts the cdrom mount > point at the same time, > so there are no conflicts. > > If *both* mount points are setup for supermount, but > they use the same > device, wouldn't this be rather ... > counterproductive? > > -- > Dave Sherman > MCSE, MCSA, CCNA > "In total we spend almost three years of our lives > on the toilet. It's > natural and it's normal, so let's learn to say: > 'Wow! That's a great > toilet!'" - Jack Sim, Restroom Association President > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] LM9.1 Supermount - Reliable?
Praedor Tempus wrote: Hmpf. My supermount setup has both my CDROM and CDRW setup as scsi-ide. If I try k3b, it fails to see them. All the other cdburner apps work fine with this. praedor In fstab, my cdrom mount point is setup for supermount, but my cdrecorder mount point is *not* setup for supermount -- K3b mounts it on demand, and presumably unmounts the cdrom mount point at the same time, so there are no conflicts. If *both* mount points are setup for supermount, but they use the same device, wouldn't this be rather ... counterproductive? -- Dave Sherman MCSE, MCSA, CCNA "In total we spend almost three years of our lives on the toilet. It's natural and it's normal, so let's learn to say: 'Wow! That's a great toilet!'" - Jack Sim, Restroom Association President Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] LM9.1 Supermount - Reliable?
On Monday 07 July 2003 06:18 am, charlie wrote: > On Mon, 7 Jul 2003 04:27 pm, Sevatio had this to contribute :- > > > I'm preparing to install LM9.1. I was just wondering if LM9.1 still has > > supermount problems like LM9.0 had. > > It seems to depend who you talk to. I have trouble with all supermounts, > others have none apparently when reading this list. > > Charlie Charlie, you're not alone - I usually try supermount with each new distro release, but end up disabling it in the end. :-) -- /\ Dark>Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] LM9.1 Supermount - Reliable?
Hmpf. My supermount setup has both my CDROM and CDRW setup as scsi-ide. If I try k3b, it fails to see them. All the other cdburner apps work fine with this. praedor --- Dave Sherman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Praedor Tempus wrote: > > I am one who hasn't had problems, per se, with > > supermount in 9.1 or 9.0 (or others). Supermount > > causes problems, however, if you wish to use k3b, > the > > kde cdburner app. It is a nice looking app but I > > cannot get it to work with my system setup with > > supermount, though I have no problems with > X-CDroast > > or eroaster w/supermount. > > > > So, I suppose it depends on your system and what > you > > wish to do. The fstab entries required/created by > k3b > > are incompatible with supermount (unless someone > can > > set me right on this). > > Praedor, > > I may be the exception to the rule, but K3b and > supermount work just > fine on my Mdk 9.1 laptop. I've got separate mount > points for cdrom and > cdrecorder, and it seems to work fine that way. > However, if I remember > correctly, I *did* need to setuid root on the > cdrecord and cdrdao > programs. They are setuid in any case. This is > obviously a security > risk, but my laptop is mostly single-user (my wife > occasionally plays > Frozen Bubble on it). > > -- > Dave Sherman > MCSE, MCSA, CCNA > "In total we spend almost three years of our lives > on the toilet. It's > natural and it's normal, so let's learn to say: > 'Wow! That's a great > toilet!'" - Jack Sim, Restroom Association President > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] LM9.1 Supermount - Reliable?
Praedor Tempus wrote: I am one who hasn't had problems, per se, with supermount in 9.1 or 9.0 (or others). Supermount causes problems, however, if you wish to use k3b, the kde cdburner app. It is a nice looking app but I cannot get it to work with my system setup with supermount, though I have no problems with X-CDroast or eroaster w/supermount. So, I suppose it depends on your system and what you wish to do. The fstab entries required/created by k3b are incompatible with supermount (unless someone can set me right on this). Praedor, I may be the exception to the rule, but K3b and supermount work just fine on my Mdk 9.1 laptop. I've got separate mount points for cdrom and cdrecorder, and it seems to work fine that way. However, if I remember correctly, I *did* need to setuid root on the cdrecord and cdrdao programs. They are setuid in any case. This is obviously a security risk, but my laptop is mostly single-user (my wife occasionally plays Frozen Bubble on it). -- Dave Sherman MCSE, MCSA, CCNA "In total we spend almost three years of our lives on the toilet. It's natural and it's normal, so let's learn to say: 'Wow! That's a great toilet!'" - Jack Sim, Restroom Association President Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] LM9.1 Supermount - Reliable?
Have installed Mandrake 9.1 on many PCs, and and supermount is excellent in Mandrake 9.1.. 9.0 was a disaster.. Cheers Mark On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 16:27, Sevatio wrote: > I'm preparing to install LM9.1. I was just wondering if LM9.1 still has > supermount problems like LM9.0 had. > > Thanks, > Sevatio Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] LM9.1 Supermount - Reliable?
I am one who hasn't had problems, per se, with supermount in 9.1 or 9.0 (or others). Supermount causes problems, however, if you wish to use k3b, the kde cdburner app. It is a nice looking app but I cannot get it to work with my system setup with supermount, though I have no problems with X-CDroast or eroaster w/supermount. So, I suppose it depends on your system and what you wish to do. The fstab entries required/created by k3b are incompatible with supermount (unless someone can set me right on this). praedor --- charlie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 7 Jul 2003 04:27 pm, Sevatio had this to > contribute :- > > I'm preparing to install LM9.1. I was just > wondering if LM9.1 still has > > supermount problems like LM9.0 had. > > It seems to depend who you talk to. I have trouble > with all supermounts, > others have none apparently when reading this list. > > Charlie > > -- > Nothing is certain but uncertainty. > > > G. K. Chesterton > > > This email is guaranteed to be wholly Linux Mandrake > 9.1, Kmail v1.5 and > OpenOffice.org1.1Beta > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] LM9.1 Supermount - Reliable?
On Monday 07 July 2003 02:27 am, Sevatio wrote: > I'm preparing to install LM9.1. I was just wondering if LM9.1 still has > supermount problems like LM9.0 had. > > Thanks, > Sevatio It works without problems for me on 9.1. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] LM9.1 Supermount - Reliable?
On Monday 07 Jul 2003 11:53 am, arocho wrote: > For my installation the install software wrote the supermount fstab > entries incorrectly. It does not seem to be quite fool proof yet. > I have been using it since it was first available in the Mandrake > distribution and it has yet to deliver on the promises. Perhaps it > is a matter of the three different boxes I have tried it on. > > On Sunday, July 06, 2003 at 11:27:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I'm preparing to install LM9.1. I was just wondering if LM9.1 > > still has supermount problems like LM9.0 had. > > > > Thanks, > > Sevatio No-one seems to know why some boxes simply can't use it, while others are fine. It's run without problems on this box under both 9.0 and 9.1. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] LM9.1 Supermount - Reliable?
For my installation the install software wrote the supermount fstab entries incorrectly. It does not seem to be quite fool proof yet. I have been using it since it was first available in the Mandrake distribution and it has yet to deliver on the promises. Perhaps it is a matter of the three different boxes I have tried it on. On Sunday, July 06, 2003 at 11:27:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm preparing to install LM9.1. I was just wondering if LM9.1 still has > supermount problems like LM9.0 had. > > Thanks, > Sevatio > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] LM9.1 Supermount - Reliable?
Viestissä Maanantai 7. Heinäkuuta 2003 09:27, Sevatio kirjoitti: > I'm preparing to install LM9.1. I was just wondering if LM9.1 still has > supermount problems like LM9.0 had. > > Thanks, > Sevatio I think you would be interested in this mail posted on the Cooker list: --- cut --- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Some of you might be interested in this 9.1 kernel update (based on > 0.18mdk): > > - better supermount (supermount-ng.sourceforge.net) > - fix for ldm_validate_partition and ppa cable warning messages > - alsa emu10k1 oops fix > - newer pci ids > - bus_ide_piix and bus_ide_nvidia_udma100(nforce) fixes > - aic7xxx_20030502 > - driver_sonypi_1.19 > - firewire update to 925 > - vesafb ram fix > - fix a panic of ide-scsi > - add acls on xfs filesystems > - patch for devfs deadlock > - unlock grsecurity settings > > Special thanks to Andrey Borzenkov and Thomas Backlund for many of the > patches. > > The kernel was tested by club members for some weeks now, I have had no > complaints. > Its on the mirrors in Mandrake-devel/unsupported/MandrakeClub/9.1/i586/ > > To make it on-topic again: > I would hope to have supermount-ng and ACLs in 9.2 kernel as well > > d. --- cut --- I'm running it myself with no problems what so ever... Regards Thomas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] LM9.1 Supermount - Reliable?
On Mon, 7 Jul 2003 04:27 pm, Sevatio had this to contribute :- > I'm preparing to install LM9.1. I was just wondering if LM9.1 still has > supermount problems like LM9.0 had. It seems to depend who you talk to. I have trouble with all supermounts, others have none apparently when reading this list. Charlie -- Nothing is certain but uncertainty. G. K. Chesterton This email is guaranteed to be wholly Linux Mandrake 9.1, Kmail v1.5 and OpenOffice.org1.1Beta Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] LM9.1 Supermount - Reliable?
On Sun, 2003-07-06 at 23:27, Sevatio wrote: > I'm preparing to install LM9.1. I was just wondering if LM9.1 still has > supermount problems like LM9.0 had. > > Thanks, > Sevatio Sevatio, All I can attest to is that the "disappearing CD data" problem from 9.0 on this laptop hasn't happened yet with 9.1. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
