Re: [expert] Mdk as Server OS ?
James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2003-06-10 at 03:37, Joerg Mertin wrote: Hi Folks, this request might be off-topic, but might not be. For years now - I have always used Mandrake for Desktop Usage - always bought the boxes, but RedHat for my home server - download edition. The reason I'm asking - is that I actually love the script based up2date package, and the 7.3rh version - however - every month filling out their questions etc. to get my demo-account active - is getting on my nervs. I would pay for it - but don't know if paying for that, they will make as M$ - stop support for the old versions etc. letting me hanging in the rain. So - what I require - is a Server operating system that is not using any X-Interface for it's configuration. I would do everything by hand too - but don't care if a curses-based UI exists. I also require an automated Update system in place (I had written back in time one for automatically updating RPM's, similar to up2date from rh), but it would be nice to have that maintained by the distribution owner. There are pros and cons to it (like in everything) but you could take a look at the K12LTSP distro. As the name implies it is primarily built for educational institutions and as such will have things in it you may not want (like tux typing and the ltsp.org packages etc.). It is RedHat based but is released more frequently (with the latest official patches and updates) and has both apt-get (from debian but rpm based) and yum (yellowdog update manager) packaged and preconfigured. The K12LTSP folks manage package repositories for both managers. I also use mandrake on desktop and redhat (now K12LTSP) on servers and though I don't know your exact reasons, I may understand where you're coming from. The apt-get and yum mangers do for redhat what urpmi does for mandrake AFAICS - plus you have choice on which you prefer to use. http://www.k12ltsp.org/ I do this I create a cron job that runs every 24 hours doing urpmi.update -a then urpmi --auto --auto-select. This takes care of all of the updates auto-magically for me. And, since it's a cron job it mails me the results. One note I also add main and contribs to my urpmi database and disable the cd's, this way if it needs anything new ... it can get it. I've been doing this for about 2 years now without a hitch, and my boxes are never more than a day out of date. Beats the heck out of up2date. 4 servers running MDK and 9 desktops (small office) all of them do this, all are kept up to date. In two years I've had one problem and it was caused by backhoe vs fiber incident that cut my connection to a site in my urpmi database. Just for Fairness YAST in SuSe can do this as well although I haven't used it. But out of all the distro's RH is the most troublesome to keep up to date. (and the one with the most updates too. Mostly self caused.) James Now - I do have a fairly well knowledge of Mandrakes capabilities, and for my Desktop - I have no problem using it. However - a Server means for me, that all my backups are going on it, it has to be reliable, needs to be secured - and the system needs to be supported for at least a year or 2. Mdk has gone the way of often updating the distribution - which is great as long as I don't use it for my server... but I don't know as of yet of an automated Security-fix installation option for mdk... I had done my own operating system back in time - and could do it again, but I'd first like to see if I can avoiding reinventing the wheel ... Anyone has a RPM based distribution to propose - that is up to date, stable, light and easy to maintain ? Preferably free, but I'm also willing to pay for it, if it's worth the money... I would like to keep the RPM based distribution, as I have a very long experience with RPM's (MD5 Checksums and PGP Signatures where actually contributed from me to RedHat by the time of RedHat 2 beta), and I usually also like doing RPM's, but don't like the way Debian packages are done (reason I staid with RPM) Thanks for those... they are tremendously underused IMHO. Now if we can just get them to make boolean or available for dependencies I'd be in hog heaven. I'll have a new Server end of next-week, a Lex Light THIN Client 533 MHz 860A-3R53 Fan-less with 3Lan 10/100MBits, 1WiFi port, 256MByte Ram and 40GBytes Harddrive - barely bigger than an A5 format mini-computer - so I'll have something to play with... So - any hints/tips welcome ... Cheers Joerg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Mike Rambo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mdk as Server OS ?
Hi Vincent, Thx for your Input. But - before I start doing a request - does the i586 also work on a VIA C3 CPU ? Have to check that exactly ... Well - the kernel wouldn't be important, but the libraries etc. Any clue ? On Tue, 10 Jun 2003, Vincent Danen wrote: Well, you asked for a solution... Start making requests for a support-less version of CS2.1 for $200 or $250 and maybe you'll get it. You're paying that much for support included with the product. yep. That makes sens. Guess I won't need support - as most of the time I do give support ;) on Linux :) Cheers Thx Joerg -- | Joerg Mertin : [EMAIL PROTECTED](Home)| | in Neuchâtel/Schweiz : [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Work)| | Stardust's LiNUX System : | | PGP 2.6.3in Key on Demand : Voice Fax: +41(0)32 / 725 52 54 | Home-Page: http://www.solsys.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mdk as Server OS ?
On Wed, 2003-06-11 at 05:47, Joerg Mertin wrote: Hi Vincent, Thx for your Input. But - before I start doing a request - does the i586 also work on a VIA C3 CPU ? Have to check that exactly ... Well - the kernel wouldn't be important, but the libraries etc. Any clue ? Yes it does.. I've a VIA C3 running MDK 9.0 (soon to be 9.1) without a problem.. Now in 9.0 you did have to do a small trick (it's in the 9.0 errata on the MDK site.) to make sure it didn't try to do i686 but that's 2 seconds of work really. Once this bit flip is done the install goes smoothly and it runs reliably. James On Tue, 10 Jun 2003, Vincent Danen wrote: Well, you asked for a solution... Start making requests for a support-less version of CS2.1 for $200 or $250 and maybe you'll get it. You're paying that much for support included with the product. yep. That makes sens. Guess I won't need support - as most of the time I do give support ;) on Linux :) Cheers Thx Joerg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mdk as Server OS ?
Hi James, James Sparenberg wrote: Hi Vincent, Thx for your Input. But - before I start doing a request - does the i586 also work on a VIA C3 CPU ? Have to check that exactly ... Well - the kernel wouldn't be important, but the libraries etc. Any clue ? Yes it does.. I've a VIA C3 running MDK 9.0 (soon to be 9.1) without a problem.. Now in 9.0 you did have to do a small trick (it's in the 9.0 errata on the MDK site.) to make sure it didn't try to do i686 but that's 2 seconds of work really. Once this bit flip is done the install goes smoothly and it runs reliably. Thx for the hint. I' ve found similar informations on the linitx.com forums... :) I' ll dig through that first to see how it goes ... But It' ll be the first time I' ll try to boot from a CF card :) Could be fun though ... Cheers Thx Joerg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mdk as Server OS ?
Hi Folks, there seems to be a Bug in the list-server. I have sent this message once only ;) Cheers Joerg [...] -- | Joerg Mertin : [EMAIL PROTECTED](Home)| | in Neuchâtel/Schweiz : [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Work)| | Stardust's LiNUX System : | | PGP 2.6.3in Key on Demand : Voice Fax: +41(0)32 / 725 52 54 | Home-Page: http://www.solsys.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mdk as Server OS ?
On Tuesday 10 June 2003 06:37 am, Joerg Mertin wrote: So - any hints/tips welcome ... I have my server running Mandrake 9.0. It runs httpd, samba, nfs, print queu mgmt with cups and a few other things and it has been running for 155 days now without an issue. I was gonna try and upgrade it to 9.1 last weekend, but I found out I had to do a presentation this week so I didn't want to risk it getting screwed up so I'll upgrade it after my presentation today. You can set it to do automatic updates by creating an update source and using urpmi in a cron job to keep it up to date. This is what I do. I keep a local mirror of the update sources using fmirror. If I see in the morning that there has been an update on the mirror, I check out the advisory at mandrakeSecure and then wait a few days to make sure there isn't an issue with the update. If there isn't, I run the commands urpmi.update --update and then urpmi --auto-select --update This updates the hdlist files for urpmi and then automatically updates anything that is installed. If you want it to be automatic, you could set it all up in a cron job. Set it and forget it. You also don't need a local mirror, you could update directly from one of the mirrors. I just like having it mirrored locally because it is easier to update more than one machine that way, plus I get notified via e-mail when the cron job pulls down a new update. -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mdk as Server OS ?
Hi again, On Tue, 10 Jun 2003, Greg Meyer wrote: On Tuesday 10 June 2003 06:37 am, Joerg Mertin wrote: So - any hints/tips welcome ... I have my server running Mandrake 9.0. It runs httpd, samba, nfs, print queu mgmt with cups and a few other things and it has been running for 155 days now without an issue. I was gonna try and upgrade it to 9.1 last weekend, but I found out I had to do a presentation this week so I didn't want to risk it getting screwed up so I'll upgrade it after my presentation today. You can set it to do automatic updates by creating an update source and using urpmi in a cron job to keep it up to date. This is what I do. I keep a local mirror of the update sources using fmirror. If I see in the morning that there has been an update on the mirror, I check out the advisory at mandrakeSecure and then wait a few days to make sure there isn't an issue with the update. If there isn't, I run the commands urpmi.update --update and then urpmi --auto-select --update This updates the hdlist files for urpmi and then automatically updates anything that is installed. If you want it to be automatic, you could set it all up in a cron job. Set it and forget it. You also don't need a local mirror, you could update directly from one of the mirrors. I just like having it mirrored locally because it is easier to update more than one machine that way, plus I get notified via e-mail when the cron job pulls down a new update. What you did just put in here - is something I already do with the RedHat System. However - I do have the Security Update-System hooked to the rhn-advisory system, so that it triggers updates as soon as these are available. As you said - you wait couple of days before applying the patches, while I don't - and up to now - I have run pretty well with it (Only thing that happens form time to time, one of the servers not restrting correctly as Mysql or httpd - but that can be checked by cron-job.). PS: I do keep Mirrors of several Distributions, notably, Mandrake-9.1 + updates, RedHat-7.3 + Updates, Knoppix, Texstar/Plf-RPM's - so I have fairly enough data here. However - what I want is a System that is able to intelligently and fast cope with Security issues, where I don't have to on a regular base look at it (actually - the way I do it right now using rh7.3) :( Thx for your comments. PS: I looked at the Mandrake Server-Packages... But I won't buy it - I just don't want to put 1500,- Bucks as a private person into it. Cheers Joerg -- | Joerg Mertin : [EMAIL PROTECTED](Home)| | in Neuchâtel/Schweiz : [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Work)| | Stardust's LiNUX System : | | PGP 2.6.3in Key on Demand : Voice Fax: +41(0)32 / 725 52 54 | Home-Page: http://www.solsys.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mdk as Server OS ?
I apologize if this is not what you were asking about (my comprehension level is low this morning) but have you looked at mandrake update robot? http://www.cyest.org/modules.php?name=Contentpa=showpagepid=5 I don't use it (I probably should) but for whatever reason, I know it exists. good luck. Joerg Mertin wrote: The reason I'm asking - is that I actually love the script based up2date package, and the 7.3rh version - however - every month filling out their questions etc. to get my demo-account active - is getting on my nervs. I would pay for it - but don't know if paying for that, they will make as M$ - stop support for the old versions etc. letting me hanging in the rain. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mdk as Server OS ?
That's nothing Joerg, I have sent several messages in the last few days and NOTHING has gotten through. Joerg Mertin wrote: Hi Folks, there seems to be a Bug in the list-server. I have sent this message once only ;) Cheers Joerg [...] -- | Joerg Mertin : [EMAIL PROTECTED](Home)| | in Neuchâtel/Schweiz : [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Work)| | Stardust's LiNUX System : | | PGP 2.6.3in Key on Demand : Voice Fax: +41(0)32 / 725 52 54 | Home-Page: http://www.solsys.org -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. RANKIN * BERTIN, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mdk as Server OS ?
On Tue Jun 10, 2003 at 12:37:20PM +0200, Joerg Mertin wrote:
[...]
So - what I require - is a Server operating system that is not using any
X-Interface for it's configuration. I would do everything by hand too -
but don't care if a curses-based UI exists. I also require an automated
Update system in place (I had written back in time one for automatically
updating RPM's, similar to up2date from rh), but it would be nice to have
that maintained by the distribution owner.
Now - I do have a fairly well knowledge of Mandrakes capabilities, and for
my Desktop - I have no problem using it. However - a Server means for me,
that all my backups are going on it, it has to be reliable, needs to be
secured - and the system needs to be supported for at least a year or 2.
Mdk has gone the way of often updating the distribution - which is great
as long as I don't use it for my server... but I don't know as of yet of
an automated Security-fix installation option for mdk...
I had done my own operating system back in time - and could do it again,
but I'd first like to see if I can avoiding reinventing the wheel ...
I use Corporate Server 2.1 on all my machines. It's stable, secure, and
handles the load quite nicely. You can automate updates with urpmi by
throwing it in a cronjob.
It's not free, but it works extremely well. CS2.1 is based on Mandrake
9.0+updates. It does the job very well here.
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Re: [expert] Mdk as Server OS ?
On Tuesday 10 June 2003 08:27 am, Joerg Mertin wrote: PS: I looked at the Mandrake Server-Packages... But I won't buy it - I just don't want to put 1500,- Bucks as a private person into it. I should clarify that this server is running the download edition. I agree with you. $1,500 is too much for a provate server, so I joined the Club. -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mdk as Server OS ?
Vincent Danen wrote: On Tue Jun 10, 2003 at 12:37:20PM +0200, Joerg Mertin wrote: [...] I use Corporate Server 2.1 on all my machines. It's stable, secure, and handles the load quite nicely. You can automate updates with urpmi by throwing it in a cronjob. It's not free, but it works extremely well. CS2.1 is based on Mandrake 9.0+updates. It does the job very well here. Yep - I agree, but using CS2.1 for 750,- $ is a little bit too much for what I want to do with it. It's allways a compromise between price and what I'll get out of it. But - as I do only do some OS development I publish under GPL for fun, I won't spend more than 200,- $ for the OS I'm working with. And if I don't find anything that suits, I'll most probably go to Debian - even if I don't like their packaging system. I wonder if Mandrake has some program for external Admins/Developers to test their Server packages... I have quite a long experience with servers and weird setups running Linux, also security related that might help out (Check my homepage)... Anyone from Mandrake might want to comment ? Cheers Joerg -- | Joerg Mertin : [EMAIL PROTECTED](Home)| | in Neuchâtel/Schweiz : [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Work)| | Stardust's LiNUX System : | | PGP 2.6.3in Key on Demand : Voice Fax: +41(0)32 / 725 52 54 | Home-Page: http://www.solsys.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mdk as Server OS ?
Heh, jus found out that it's possible to get the Corporate Server 2.1 for 750,- $... Cheaper, but not enough for me ;) Cheers Joerg Greg Meyer wrote: On Tuesday 10 June 2003 08:27 am, Joerg Mertin wrote: PS: I looked at the Mandrake Server-Packages... But I won't buy it - I just don't want to put 1500,- Bucks as a private person into it. I should clarify that this server is running the download edition. I agree with you. $1,500 is too much for a provate server, so I joined the Club. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- | Joerg Mertin : [EMAIL PROTECTED](Home)| | in Neuchâtel/Schweiz : [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Work)| | Stardust's LiNUX System : | | PGP 2.6.3in Key on Demand : Voice Fax: +41(0)32 / 725 52 54 | Home-Page: http://www.solsys.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mdk as Server OS ?
On Tue, 2003-06-10 at 03:37, Joerg Mertin wrote: Hi Folks, this request might be off-topic, but might not be. For years now - I have always used Mandrake for Desktop Usage - always bought the boxes, but RedHat for my home server - download edition. However - RedHat has become quite bad IMHO, especially the versions 8.0/9.0 are quite ugly for an old Linux-user who started with kernel 0.9x, and especially their company policy regarding customers the OS movement. The reason I'm asking - is that I actually love the script based up2date package, and the 7.3rh version - however - every month filling out their questions etc. to get my demo-account active - is getting on my nervs. I would pay for it - but don't know if paying for that, they will make as M$ - stop support for the old versions etc. letting me hanging in the rain. So - what I require - is a Server operating system that is not using any X-Interface for it's configuration. I would do everything by hand too - but don't care if a curses-based UI exists. I also require an automated Update system in place (I had written back in time one for automatically updating RPM's, similar to up2date from rh), but it would be nice to have that maintained by the distribution owner. I do this I create a cron job that runs every 24 hours doing urpmi.update -a then urpmi --auto --auto-select. This takes care of all of the updates auto-magically for me. And, since it's a cron job it mails me the results. One note I also add main and contribs to my urpmi database and disable the cd's, this way if it needs anything new ... it can get it. I've been doing this for about 2 years now without a hitch, and my boxes are never more than a day out of date. Beats the heck out of up2date. 4 servers running MDK and 9 desktops (small office) all of them do this, all are kept up to date. In two years I've had one problem and it was caused by backhoe vs fiber incident that cut my connection to a site in my urpmi database. Just for Fairness YAST in SuSe can do this as well although I haven't used it. But out of all the distro's RH is the most troublesome to keep up to date. (and the one with the most updates too. Mostly self caused.) James Now - I do have a fairly well knowledge of Mandrakes capabilities, and for my Desktop - I have no problem using it. However - a Server means for me, that all my backups are going on it, it has to be reliable, needs to be secured - and the system needs to be supported for at least a year or 2. Mdk has gone the way of often updating the distribution - which is great as long as I don't use it for my server... but I don't know as of yet of an automated Security-fix installation option for mdk... I had done my own operating system back in time - and could do it again, but I'd first like to see if I can avoiding reinventing the wheel ... Anyone has a RPM based distribution to propose - that is up to date, stable, light and easy to maintain ? Preferably free, but I'm also willing to pay for it, if it's worth the money... I would like to keep the RPM based distribution, as I have a very long experience with RPM's (MD5 Checksums and PGP Signatures where actually contributed from me to RedHat by the time of RedHat 2 beta), and I usually also like doing RPM's, but don't like the way Debian packages are done (reason I staid with RPM) Thanks for those... they are tremendously underused IMHO. Now if we can just get them to make boolean or available for dependencies I'd be in hog heaven. I'll have a new Server end of next-week, a Lex Light THIN Client 533 MHz 860A-3R53 Fan-less with 3Lan 10/100MBits, 1WiFi port, 256MByte Ram and 40GBytes Harddrive - barely bigger than an A5 format mini-computer - so I'll have something to play with... So - any hints/tips welcome ... Cheers Joerg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mdk as Server OS ?
On Tue, 2003-06-10 at 05:27, Joerg Mertin wrote:
Hi again,
On Tue, 10 Jun 2003, Greg Meyer wrote:
On Tuesday 10 June 2003 06:37 am, Joerg Mertin wrote:
So - any hints/tips welcome ...
I have my server running Mandrake 9.0. It runs httpd, samba, nfs, print queu
mgmt with cups and a few other things and it has been running for 155 days
now without an issue. I was gonna try and upgrade it to 9.1 last weekend,
but I found out I had to do a presentation this week so I didn't want to risk
it getting screwed up so I'll upgrade it after my presentation today.
You can set it to do automatic updates by creating an update source and using
urpmi in a cron job to keep it up to date. This is what I do.
I keep a local mirror of the update sources using fmirror. If I see in the
morning that there has been an update on the mirror, I check out the advisory
at mandrakeSecure and then wait a few days to make sure there isn't an issue
with the update. If there isn't, I run the commands urpmi.update --update
and then urpmi --auto-select --update This updates the hdlist files for
urpmi and then automatically updates anything that is installed. If you want
it to be automatic, you could set it all up in a cron job. Set it and forget
it. You also don't need a local mirror, you could update directly from one
of the mirrors. I just like having it mirrored locally because it is easier
to update more than one machine that way, plus I get notified via e-mail when
the cron job pulls down a new update.
What you did just put in here - is something I already do with the RedHat
System. However - I do have the Security Update-System hooked to the
rhn-advisory system, so that it triggers updates as soon as these are
available. As you said - you wait couple of days before applying the
patches, while I don't - and up to now - I have run pretty well with it
(Only thing that happens form time to time, one of the servers not
restrting correctly as Mysql or httpd - but that can be checked by
cron-job.).
Actually it's not that out of date it runs every day at about 4am
local.
cd /etc/cron.daily
vi updater
#!/bin/sh
urpmi.update -a
urpmi --auto --auto-select
then save it. I then ran urpmi.setup to get urpmi running right.
The in /etc/urpmi/ the file urpmi.cfg you'll see something like this.
Installation\ CD\ 1\ (x86)\ (cdrom1) removable://mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS
{
hdlist: hdlist.Installation CD 1 (x86) (cdrom1).cz
with_hdlist: ../base/hdlist1.cz
removable: /dev/scd0
}
add the line ignore
Installation\ CD\ 1\ (x86)\ (cdrom1) removable://mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS
{
hdlist: hdlist.Installation CD 1 (x86) (cdrom1).cz
with_hdlist: ../base/hdlist1.cz
removable: /dev/scd0
ignore
}
This ignores the disks and forces it to the net for all rpms. (make
sure you do this for all 3 cd's)
I'm now updated daily.. IF there is something critical I manually run
the cron job.
This does everything except kernels... this is good. I prefer doing
kernels by hand anyway.
James
PS: I do keep Mirrors of several Distributions, notably, Mandrake-9.1 +
updates, RedHat-7.3 + Updates, Knoppix, Texstar/Plf-RPM's - so I have
fairly enough data here. However - what I want is a System that is able to
intelligently and fast cope with Security issues, where I don't have
to on a regular base look at it (actually - the way I do it right now
using rh7.3) :(
Thx for your comments.
PS: I looked at the Mandrake Server-Packages... But I won't buy it - I
just don't want to put 1500,- Bucks as a private person into it.
Cheers
Joerg
Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mdk as Server OS ?
On Tue Jun 10, 2003 at 07:40:31PM +0200, Joerg Mertin wrote:
[...]
I use Corporate Server 2.1 on all my machines. It's stable, secure, and
handles the load quite nicely. You can automate updates with urpmi by
throwing it in a cronjob.
It's not free, but it works extremely well. CS2.1 is based on Mandrake
9.0+updates. It does the job very well here.
Yep - I agree, but using CS2.1 for 750,- $ is a little bit too much for
what I want to do with it. It's allways a compromise between price and
what I'll get out of it. But - as I do only do some OS development I
publish under GPL for fun, I won't spend more than 200,- $ for the OS
I'm working with. And if I don't find anything that suits, I'll most
probably go to Debian - even if I don't like their packaging system.
Well, you asked for a solution...
Start making requests for a support-less version of CS2.1 for $200 or $250
and maybe you'll get it. You're paying that much for support included with
the product.
I wonder if Mandrake has some program for external Admins/Developers to
test their Server packages... I have quite a long experience with
servers and weird setups running Linux, also security related that might
help out (Check my homepage)... Anyone from Mandrake might want to comment ?
AFAIK, there is no such program. That kind of work is done in-house unless
you are certifying some external third party commercial app.
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Online Security Resource Book; http://linsec.ca/
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Re: [expert] Mdk as Server OS ?
On Tuesday 10 June 2003 04:54 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: vi updater #!/bin/sh urpmi.update -a urpmi --auto --auto-select I believe it is also possible to specify which media you want to use for the update--so, if you *only* want security updates applied automatically: 1) create a urpmi source called (e.g.) 'security' (pointing to a security site, obviously--using the Mandrake Control Center is probably the easiest way to do this.) 2) change the urpmi line to urpmi --media security --auto --auto-select (I'd leave the urpmi.update -a as is--it's just too convenient...) -Jason = Multiple exclamation marks, he went on, shaking his head, are a sure sign of a diseased mind. -- Something that Terry feels strongly about, because a similar quote also appears in Reaper Man (Terry Pratchett, Eric) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mdk as Server OS ?
On Tue, 2003-06-10 at 18:07, PlugHead wrote: On Tuesday 10 June 2003 04:54 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: vi updater #!/bin/sh urpmi.update -a urpmi --auto --auto-select I believe it is also possible to specify which media you want to use for the update--so, if you *only* want security updates applied automatically: 1) create a urpmi source called (e.g.) 'security' (pointing to a security site, obviously--using the Mandrake Control Center is probably the easiest way to do this.) 2) change the urpmi line to urpmi --media security --auto --auto-select (I'd leave the urpmi.update -a as is--it's just too convenient...) -Jason Only reason I did it wide instead of narrow is in case of dependency... but yes. media will work. James = Multiple exclamation marks, he went on, shaking his head, are a sure sign of a diseased mind. -- Something that Terry feels strongly about, because a similar quote also appears in Reaper Man (Terry Pratchett, Eric) __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
