Re: [expert] digital cmeras and linux

2001-08-19 Thread Pierre Fortin

ben s wrote:
 
 i was considering buying a digital camera, and was wondering which one has
 the leaset problems working with linux? is usb or serial the way to go for
 linux usage???

I was out of town and just catching up...  

I have a Sony Mavica.  My reasons for this choice is no reliance on any port
type; it uses standard floppies.

But the real benefit of this choice is seen when out in the field...  unlike
the port-based cameras, I can keep shooting without the need to find a
compatible computer to upload images to free up space to continue shooting...   
If I run out of film, no problem...  just pick up more floppies and keep
shooting...  besides, this lets me keep the floppies like I would negatives or
slides without risking losing all in a HD crash.

Another benefit was that I already had a Sony Digital video which uses the same
battery...  so now, I can be recharging one in my car (using an inverter) and
thus have virtually no camera downtime.

Just wanted to point out that there are non-technology issues to picture
taking...

HTH,
Pierre

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Re: [expert] digital cmeras and linux

2001-08-19 Thread Ron Johnson

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 ben s wrote:
  i was considering buying a digital camera, and was wondering which
  one has the leaset problems working with linux? is usb or serial
  the way to go for linux usage???

And lets not forget that you can buy a higher quality ANALOG
camera pretty cheap, and when you get the roll developed, get 
a floppy or CD with JPGs of the images.

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Re: [expert] digital cmeras and linux

2001-08-14 Thread Jan Dittberner

ben s schrieb:
 
 i was considering buying a digital camera, and was wondering which one has
 the leaset problems working with linux? is usb or serial the way to go for
 linux usage???
 
 thanks
 ben

I have a Fuji Finepix 1400Zoom, it has a USB interface, it came with a
4MB SmartMedia Card and accepts up to 128 MB media. I can simply mount
the camera as SCSI disk and read the pictures from the camera easily.


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RE: [expert] digital cmeras and linux

2001-08-14 Thread Jesse Hepburn

I use a smartmedia usb adapter, as my camera only has a serial
connection (that sucks).  It is super easy to use, too.  But it took a
bit of fiddling to get it working =)
The other benefit is that it is a portable storage device for me, and
transferring files to and from work is simple!

Cheers,
Jesse

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On Mon 13 Aug at 20:32:07 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] done said:
 i was considering buying a digital camera, and was wondering which one
has 
 the leaset problems working with linux? is usb or serial the way to go
for 
 linux usage???

I've had my Nikon CoolPix 950 for probably a little over two years now
and I can't say enough good things about it.  It's been highly rated by
Consumer Reports every year and its serial connection works great with 
gphoto (although I haven't used gphoto in a while).  

If you have a laptop and end up getting a camera with a flash card, I'd
highly suggest picking up one of the PCMCIA adapters for it and you just
slap it in to the PCMCIA slot and linux simply sees it as another drive
(hde in my case).  Just do a 'mount -t vfat /dev/hde1
/mnt/mount_point' and boom, there's all your pics!

Just to keep flapping my gums, I saw in Circuit City a couple weeks ago
that Sony's making some now that burn its images straight onto a
152Mb(?)
cdrom.  Thought that was pretty cool too.  Anyway...

HTH,

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Re: [expert] digital cmeras and linux

2001-08-14 Thread Bob Young

On Mon, 13 Aug 2001 22:43:50 -0400
Digital Wokan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Maybe there's something in your camera.  Because I just tried it with my
 HP 215 and the mount returned /dev/sda1 as an unknown device.  How do I
 determine which /dev the modprobe attached usb-storage to?
 

Maybe you are right.  When I plug in the camera I do -
   cat /proc/scsi/scsi
and the output shows the camera ID

Bob



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Re: [expert] digital cmeras and linux

2001-08-14 Thread Bob Young

On Tue, 14 Aug 2001 01:04:59 -0500
J. C. Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Bob, what do you mean by made a node at the mount point?
 

Mount point is specified in fstab.  I used mnt/camera - so 'mkdir
/mnt/camera'
If the node does not exist there is no place to mount it!

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Re: [expert] digital cmeras and linux

2001-08-14 Thread Wolfgang Bornath

On Tue, Aug 14, 2001 at 09:53 -0500, glen sagers wrote:
 I'll plug my camera too, and answer wolfgang's question also.
 
 I use a toshiba pdr-m4, usb or serial connection, 1600x1200 resolution, (2.1
 megapixels), smart media.  It's also not supported by gphoto, but Linux sees
 it as USB mass storage device. I mount it under kernel 2.4.x with a mount
 command.  I don't have the exact command, as I'm away from my main machine
 right now, but it's similar to the following.

Unfortunately my M5 came w/o USB cable and there is not one shop here in
Frankfurt, Germany (one of the larger cities in Germany) who supplies
Toshiba cameras.

I just bid for a pcmcia adapter for smartmedia cards on ebay. This may be
an even better solution.

Thanks anyway.
 
wobo
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Re: [expert] digital cmeras and linux

2001-08-14 Thread glen sagers

I'll plug my camera too, and answer wolfgang's question also.

I use a toshiba pdr-m4, usb or serial connection, 1600x1200 resolution, (2.1
megapixels), smart media.  It's also not supported by gphoto, but Linux sees
it as USB mass storage device. I mount it under kernel 2.4.x with a mount
command.  I don't have the exact command, as I'm away from my main machine
right now, but it's similar to the following.

mount /dev/sda1 -t vfat -r /mnt/cam

Then simply copy the files from /mnt/cam/ to where you want them.  A couple of
caveats, this particular camera will only mount read-only under Linux, whereas
it is read-write under windows.  Also, if you put the proper line into
/etc/fstab you can mount the camera as a normal user, but I don't think I've
ever gotten supermount to work on this camera.

Finally, there's this project http://toshibapdr.sourceforge.net/ (now dead, it
appears) that allows you to use the serial connection from the command line,
but since USB is so much faster, I haven't used it since kernel 2.2.x days.

Glen Sagers


Kenneth Lierman Jr. wrote:

 just to throw in my own camera plug :)

 i have a kodak dc280 (2mb, usb, 32M CF card, etc), works great in linux w/
 gphoto.

 Ken

   
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Re: [expert] digital cmeras and linux

2001-08-14 Thread root

On Tuesday 14 August 2001 00:10, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
 On Mon, Aug 13, 2001 at 20:33 -0400, Digital Wokan wrote:
  I like my HP 215.  It was only about $300, has a USB connection, comes
  with a 4MB CompactFlash, and can accept up to a 32MB CompactFlash.  It's
  supposed to work with GPhoto2, but I can't get GPhoto2 working yet (more
  a lack of knowledge on my part than a lack on GPhoto2's, I'm sure).

 So, if you don't use gphoto what do u use with your camera? I'm asking
 that b/c my camera (Toshiba PDR-M5) is not supported by gphoto. At the
 moment I run Win98 on a VMWare virtual machine and get my pics down from
 the camera via the Windows based program by Toshiba. Then I ftp them to
 my host system and store them, work on them. This works but is slow and
 inconvenient.

 wobo

Use Samba. You will be able to access all your linux files under windows. It 
will allow you to setup drives for them (ie. U:) That way you will skip the 
ftp step.


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Re: [expert] digital cmeras and linux

2001-08-14 Thread J. C. Woods

Bob Young wrote:
 
 On Tue, 14 Aug 2001 01:04:59 -0500
 J. C. Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Bob, what do you mean by made a node at the mount point?
 
 
 Mount point is specified in fstab.  I used mnt/camera - so 'mkdir
 /mnt/camera'
 If the node does not exist there is no place to mount it!
 
 Bob

Hmmm, that was new: never heard a mount point referred to as a node A
computer in a network or server in a cluster setup, yes but a mount
point

Thanks for the new info
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Re: [expert] digital cmeras and linux

2001-08-13 Thread Digital Wokan

I like my HP 215.  It was only about $300, has a USB connection, comes
with a 4MB CompactFlash, and can accept up to a 32MB CompactFlash.  It's
supposed to work with GPhoto2, but I can't get GPhoto2 working yet (more
a lack of knowledge on my part than a lack on GPhoto2's, I'm sure).

ben s wrote:
 
 i was considering buying a digital camera, and was wondering which one has
 the leaset problems working with linux? is usb or serial the way to go for
 linux usage???
 
 thanks
 ben
 
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Re: [expert] digital cmeras and linux

2001-08-13 Thread Wolfgang Bornath

On Mon, Aug 13, 2001 at 20:33 -0400, Digital Wokan wrote:
 I like my HP 215.  It was only about $300, has a USB connection, comes
 with a 4MB CompactFlash, and can accept up to a 32MB CompactFlash.  It's
 supposed to work with GPhoto2, but I can't get GPhoto2 working yet (more
 a lack of knowledge on my part than a lack on GPhoto2's, I'm sure).

So, if you don't use gphoto what do u use with your camera? I'm asking
that b/c my camera (Toshiba PDR-M5) is not supported by gphoto. At the
moment I run Win98 on a VMWare virtual machine and get my pics down from
the camera via the Windows based program by Toshiba. Then I ftp them to
my host system and store them, work on them. This works but is slow and
inconvenient. 

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Re: [expert] digital cmeras and linux

2001-08-13 Thread Gary A. Garibaldi

I've been using the Olympus D-460 Zoom since March and have been real happy 
with it.  It works under both gPhoto and gPhoto II.
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Re: [expert] digital cmeras and linux

2001-08-13 Thread cb

On Mon 13 Aug at 20:32:07 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] done said:
 i was considering buying a digital camera, and was wondering which one has 
 the leaset problems working with linux? is usb or serial the way to go for 
 linux usage???

I've had my Nikon CoolPix 950 for probably a little over two years now
and I can't say enough good things about it.  It's been highly rated by
Consumer Reports every year and its serial connection works great with 
gphoto (although I haven't used gphoto in a while).  

If you have a laptop and end up getting a camera with a flash card, I'd
highly suggest picking up one of the PCMCIA adapters for it and you just
slap it in to the PCMCIA slot and linux simply sees it as another drive
(hde in my case).  Just do a 'mount -t vfat /dev/hde1
/mnt/mount_point' and boom, there's all your pics!

Just to keep flapping my gums, I saw in Circuit City a couple weeks ago
that Sony's making some now that burn its images straight onto a 152Mb(?)
cdrom.  Thought that was pretty cool too.  Anyway...

HTH,

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Re: [expert] digital cmeras and linux

2001-08-13 Thread Bob Young

On Mon, 13 Aug 2001 20:32:07 -0700
ben s [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 i was considering buying a digital camera, and was wondering which one
has 
 the leaset problems working with linux? is usb or serial the way to go
for 
 linux usage???

USB is definitely the way to go.  I have a Casio QV2000UX (2.1 Mpixel, 3 x
optical zoom, full auto and manual modes, comes with 8MB CF card, I put a
64MB in it, and it supports IBM microdrive of 340MB.  Cost me ~ $300).  It
works with LM 8.0 without any extra software.  I believe any USB camera
should work this way.  
I simply use the mass storage device driver - just do a 
'modprobe usb-storage'.  Of course you need to have usbcore and usb-uhci
loaded, usually done by init. 
I added the following line to /etc/fstab (I have no SCSI drives) - 
  /dev/sda1 /mnt/camera vfat ro,noauto,user 0 0
and made a node at the mount point /mnt/camera.
I plug in the camera, switch it on, and then do a 'mount /mnt/camera' ,
and I can then read the CF card just like a disk drive, and copy the files
I want.  It's really slick - and fast.

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Re: [expert] digital cmeras and linux

2001-08-13 Thread Digital Wokan

Maybe there's something in your camera.  Because I just tried it with my
HP 215 and the mount returned /dev/sda1 as an unknown device.  How do I
determine which /dev the modprobe attached usb-storage to?

Bob Young wrote:
 
 On Mon, 13 Aug 2001 20:32:07 -0700
 ben s [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  i was considering buying a digital camera, and was wondering which one
 has
  the leaset problems working with linux? is usb or serial the way to go
 for
  linux usage???
 
 USB is definitely the way to go.  I have a Casio QV2000UX (2.1 Mpixel, 3 x
 optical zoom, full auto and manual modes, comes with 8MB CF card, I put a
 64MB in it, and it supports IBM microdrive of 340MB.  Cost me ~ $300).  It
 works with LM 8.0 without any extra software.  I believe any USB camera
 should work this way.
 I simply use the mass storage device driver - just do a
 'modprobe usb-storage'.  Of course you need to have usbcore and usb-uhci
 loaded, usually done by init.
 I added the following line to /etc/fstab (I have no SCSI drives) -
   /dev/sda1 /mnt/camera vfat ro,noauto,user 0 0
 and made a node at the mount point /mnt/camera.
 I plug in the camera, switch it on, and then do a 'mount /mnt/camera' ,
 and I can then read the CF card just like a disk drive, and copy the files
 I want.  It's really slick - and fast.
 
 Bob
 
   
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Re: [expert] digital cmeras and linux

2001-08-13 Thread J. C. Woods

Bob Young wrote:
 
 I added the following line to /etc/fstab (I have no SCSI drives) -
   /dev/sda1 /mnt/camera vfat ro,noauto,user 0 0
 and made a node at the mount point /mnt/camera.

Bob, what do you mean by made a node at the mount point?

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Re: [expert] digital cmeras and linux

2001-08-13 Thread Digital Wokan

Well, I'm hosed.  It seems the HP 215 and 315 were *mistakenly* added to
the GPhoto2 supported cameras list.  So much for checking for
compatibility before investing a couple hundred dollars.  To use it, I
have to have a compact flash reader that works with Linux to read the
images out.

Digital Wokan wrote:
 
 Maybe there's something in your camera.  Because I just tried it with my
 HP 215 and the mount returned /dev/sda1 as an unknown device.  How do I
 determine which /dev the modprobe attached usb-storage to?
 
 Bob Young wrote:
 
  On Mon, 13 Aug 2001 20:32:07 -0700
  ben s [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   i was considering buying a digital camera, and was wondering which one
  has
   the leaset problems working with linux? is usb or serial the way to go
  for
   linux usage???
 
  USB is definitely the way to go.  I have a Casio QV2000UX (2.1 Mpixel, 3 x
  optical zoom, full auto and manual modes, comes with 8MB CF card, I put a
  64MB in it, and it supports IBM microdrive of 340MB.  Cost me ~ $300).  It
  works with LM 8.0 without any extra software.  I believe any USB camera
  should work this way.
  I simply use the mass storage device driver - just do a
  'modprobe usb-storage'.  Of course you need to have usbcore and usb-uhci
  loaded, usually done by init.
  I added the following line to /etc/fstab (I have no SCSI drives) -
/dev/sda1 /mnt/camera vfat ro,noauto,user 0 0
  and made a node at the mount point /mnt/camera.
  I plug in the camera, switch it on, and then do a 'mount /mnt/camera' ,
  and I can then read the CF card just like a disk drive, and copy the files
  I want.  It's really slick - and fast.
 
  Bob
 

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