Re: [expert] radeon 8500
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 23:59:51 -0600 Vincent Danen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Found something else that worked pretty good... I documented it on the wiki. Went from 320FPS to about 2200FPS... much nicer. EQ runs pretty good in winex now, and NWN looked pretty good for the 10s before it crashed. With a 9600Pro I had been settling for using vesa and its 320FPS. After theses discussions and looking at your wiki entry I decided to give the ATI drivers a shot. I can now get 4200FPS+ There are still a couple of caveats with fglrxconfig and the 9600. 1)If I use the actual horz and vert sync rate for my monitor, a 19' Hatachi CM751, either by manually entering the setting or by using XFdrake to select my specific monitor X fails to start with No usable screen found. If I select the max values given by fglrxconfig for both horz and vert sync X will start without problem. 2)I must still use vga=normal or the system will not boot. Charles -- I gained nothing at all from Supreme Enlightenment, and for that very reason it is called Supreme Enlightenment. -- Gotama Buddha - Mandrake Linux 9.2 on PurpleDragon Kernel- 2.4.21-0.1mdk http://www.eslrahc.com - pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: [expert] radeon 8500
I have been wanting to run a Quake2 server for ages,spend many hours trying to find my CD... Also I have no idea how to set it up as a server on linux, but I suspect that a bit of searching on google would remedy that. regards Franki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jack Coates Sent: Saturday, 28 June 2003 12:02 PM To: Mandrake Expert List Subject: Re: [expert] radeon 8500 On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 23:33, Vincent Danen wrote: ... You know, I may actually have to try tuxracer out... truth be told, I haven't given it a go once. But Frozen Bubble should be cool, although it ran quite nicely before... I can't imagine it taking advantage of too much 3D accel. FB won't run any better, but tuxracer will fly :-) Now if I could figure out how to make Quake2 work in 9.1, then I'd be a *real* happy camper (to the extent that now I'm dual booting to deal with my RPG cravings). That I can probably help with -- I'm a q2 junky. Even got a dedicated server running that you're probably not too far from :-) -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... http://www.monkeynoodle.org/resume.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] radeon 8500
yup. Most of the documentation is painfully old, but the www.tldp.org
HOWTO is quite good. I've bundled all sorts of stuff into
/usr/local/games/quake2 and just copied it around from machine to
machine for years. Only big annoyance is that q2 doesn't really do map
rotation very well, so I have to use rcon to manually rotate maps :-(
If you want to play and are network-wise close enough to San Jose for it
to be worthwhile, let me know. Q3 is a lot of fun too, but I really like
the look of q2 with GL lighting. Oh yes, and this is helpful for those
who want to do their own:
/etc/init.d/quake2
#!/bin/sh
#
# quake2: Starts the Quake2 Server
#
# Version: @(#) /etc/init.d/quake2 1
#
# chkconfig: 2345 20 10
# description: Starts and stops the Quake2 Server at boot time and
shutdown.
#
# processname: quake2
# config: /usr/local/games/quake2/server.cfg
# hide: true
# Source function library.
. /etc/rc.d/init.d/functions
# See how we were called.
case $1 in
start)
gprintf Starting Quake2 Server:
cd /usr/local/games/quake2/
setuidgid quake2 /usr/local/games/quake2/quake2 +set dedicated 1
+set rcon_password PASSWORD +set game fear /dev/null 1
touch /var/lock/subsys/quake2
echo
;;
stop)
gprintf Shutting down Quake2 Server:
killproc quake2.x86
rm -f /var/lock/subsys/quake2
echo
;;
status)
status quake2
;;
*)
gprintf *** Usage: quake2 {start|stop|status}\n
exit 1
esac
exit 0
On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 23:40, Frankie wrote:
I have been wanting to run a Quake2 server for ages,spend many hours trying
to find my CD...
Also I have no idea how to set it up as a server on linux, but I suspect
that a bit of searching on google would remedy that.
regards
Franki
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Subject: Re: [expert] radeon 8500
On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 23:33, Vincent Danen wrote:
...
You know, I may actually have to try tuxracer out... truth be told, I
haven't given it a go once. But Frozen Bubble should be cool, although it
ran quite nicely before... I can't imagine it taking advantage of too much
3D accel.
FB won't run any better, but tuxracer will fly :-)
Now if I could figure out how to make Quake2 work in 9.1, then I'd be a
*real* happy camper (to the extent that now I'm dual booting to deal with
my
RPG cravings).
That I can probably help with -- I'm a q2 junky. Even got a dedicated
server running that you're probably not too far from :-)
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Re: [expert] radeon 8500
On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 23:33, Vincent Danen wrote: ... You know, I may actually have to try tuxracer out... truth be told, I haven't given it a go once. But Frozen Bubble should be cool, although it ran quite nicely before... I can't imagine it taking advantage of too much 3D accel. FB won't run any better, but tuxracer will fly :-) Now if I could figure out how to make Quake2 work in 9.1, then I'd be a *real* happy camper (to the extent that now I'm dual booting to deal with my RPG cravings). That I can probably help with -- I'm a q2 junky. Even got a dedicated server running that you're probably not too far from :-) -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... http://www.monkeynoodle.org/resume.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] radeon 8500
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 02:09 am, Vincent Danen wrote: Anyways, doesn't matter. I've had nothing but problems with this radeon under Mandrake so I pulled it out. I've got better things to do with my time than muck around with proprietary drivers that need 5% skill 45% luck and 50% vo0doo to make work. my sentiments entirely - and the same conclusion! I pulled my 9000 out and plunked in a Ti4200, used Texstars rpm´s and yohoho! -- john in sydney Mandrake Linux 9.1, Kernel version: 2.4.21-0.18mdk OpenPGP key available on www.keyserver.net 1024D/3E4A902F B38A AB0F 8658 D9E1 4900 3050 08FA D4FA 3E4A 902F Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] radeon 8500
On Thu Jun 26, 2003 at 11:14:11PM +1000, John Haywood wrote:
Anyways, doesn't matter. I've had nothing but problems with this radeon
under Mandrake so I pulled it out. I've got better things to do with my
time than muck around with proprietary drivers that need 5% skill 45% luck
and 50% vo0doo to make work.
my sentiments entirely - and the same conclusion! I pulled my 9000 out and
plunked in a Ti4200, used Texstars rpm´s and yohoho!
Well, I took mine out and put in some ASUS card which uses the NVidia
chipset (don't ask for particulars... I have no clue). It uses XFree86's nv
module and while I don't get accelerated X, that's enough for me. At this
point, I don't care. =)
I grabbed some spare parts and put together a Win2k machine to play those
Win games that I want to play. We'll see how long it takes for me to do
another reinstall (usually I've had to do it every 3-6mos). But since it's
just for gaming, I don't really care. =)
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Re: [expert] radeon 8500
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've been playing one fo the betas of the NWN linux client for quite some time now, with no issues at all but this_is_ using the nVidia binary drivers and a GeForce 4 Ti4200... Mark. On Tue Jun 24, 2003 at 07:44:31PM +1000, John Haywood wrote: Looks pretty similar. I have to use the binary drivers tho... no two ways around that. Oh well.. not that big of a deal. At least now I've got a decent resolution... =) Getting the games to behave is a completely different story tho. and you have been here? http://nwn.bioware.com/downloads/linuxclient.html Yeah... had to download the client somehow... =) Also downloaded the 1.1GB resource file. What a waste. ...and here? http://nwn.bioware.com/support/known.html#23 (this one hints that all may not be well inter Radeon NWN) Nope, not been there. Will check it out, but if there are issues with the radeon, it doesn't bode well. -but fixing it is definitely a quest worth pursuing :) Well, I bought the damn game when it first came out under the impression a Linux client was like a month away. The only reason I wanted the game was because it was supposed to be Win/Mac/Linux in one box. But since Bioware botched that good, and now I've got a Linux client that doesn't work and if I want a Mac version I have to buy it again, I'm *extremely* annoyed with them. Hmmm... Bioware's in town here... maybe I'll go down there and throw rocks at their windows. =) - -- Mark Watts Senior Systems Engineer QinetiQ TIM St Andrews Road, Malvern GPG Public Key ID: 455420ED -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE++aU4Bn4EFUVUIO0RAnq8AJ0Q41CvV/tLfIxPh9nTCw+657Ye4wCfeipk ppzS2PB7DFcYjF1T62jeyMg= =sOAJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] radeon 8500
On Wed Jun 25, 2003 at 02:35:52PM +0100, Mark Watts wrote:
I've been playing one fo the betas of the NWN linux client for quite some time
now, with no issues at all but this_is_ using the nVidia binary drivers
and a GeForce 4 Ti4200...
I had heard bad reports with ATI cards during the very early betas and kinda
figured they would have had them sorted out before the client was done.
Hell, it took them a year to get this far, would it have killed them to hold
back for another month to make sure the silly thing worked properly with ATI
cards?
Anyways, doesn't matter. I've had nothing but problems with this radeon
under Mandrake so I pulled it out. I've got better things to do with my
time than muck around with proprietary drivers that need 5% skill 45% luck
and 50% vo0doo to make work.
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Re: [expert] radeon 8500
On Mon Jun 23, 2003 at 05:57:47PM -0700, James Sparenberg wrote:
Has anyone gotten this to work with 9.1? I've got a radeon 8500 that I had
temporarily put into a machine that just did console, and now I've moved it
back to my own machine and I'll be darned if I can make it work properly. I
can get 640x480 out of it and that's it... I kinda would like to have
1280x1024 again... =) I pulled out a r128 card, tried XFdrake to make the
changes and no dice, so I even did a reinstall last night and still nothing.
I'm a total n00b when it comes to X and different cards and even trying some
ATI binary drivers resulted in nothing happening and I've been told that the
8500 should work out of the box.
Any help would be seriously appreciated. Thanks.
It comes close One question here. What is your monitor. 90% of the
X related problems I've found are related to the wrong monitor
settings. Also is it correctly detecting the amount of video ram on
this card?
It's a NEC AccuSync 70 (CRT). Monitor settings seem ok.. they're the same
I've been using forever. And yeah, it's detecting all 64MB on the card now
that I'm using the binary drivers for XFree86 4.3.0.
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Re: [expert] radeon 8500
On Mon Jun 23, 2003 at 11:24:16PM -0400, Robert Crawford wrote:
It comes close One question here. What is your monitor. 90% of the
X related problems I've found are related to the wrong monitor
settings. Also is it correctly detecting the amount of video ram on
this card?
I agree with James. I have three ATI 9000 Pros on three different installs of
MDK 9.1. When I set up X during the install, I ALWAYS have to use the generic
1024x768 @70Hz option in the monitor selection. It detects my monitor
correctly as a Gateway ev700, but using that, I never can get any resolution
to test out correctly. Come to think of it, I've had to use the generic
settings with ANY video card for this monitor.
My relevant sections (my 3d acceleration works great with the stock 9.1 Radeon
driver):
Section Monitor
Identifier monitor1
VendorName Generic
ModelName 1024x768 @ 70 Hz
HorizSync 31.5-57.0
VertRefresh 50-70
Section Module
Load dbe # Double-Buffering Extension
Load v4l # Video for Linux
Load extmod
Load type1
Load freetype
Load glx # 3D layer
Load dri # direct rendering
EndSection
Section DRI
Mode 0666
EndSection
Looks pretty similar. I have to use the binary drivers tho... no two ways
around that. Oh well.. not that big of a deal. At least now I've got a
decent resolution... =) Getting the games to behave is a completely
different story tho.
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Re: [expert] radeon 8500
On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 22:59, Vincent Danen wrote: On Mon Jun 23, 2003 at 06:10:59PM -0700, James Sparenberg wrote: With this vesa driver, are you getting a decent FPS? I'm (currently) getting 320FPS and that really really bites. Go to the site http://www.retinalburn.net/linux/dri_xv.html and take a look at what they have + gatos. They actually have drivers etc built for 4.3. On my poor little laptop (afore it died an unnatural death) I was able to get the ATI mobility chip from about 75fps to 180fps using gatos + what they have. Found something else that worked pretty good... I documented it on the wiki. Thanks I plan on documenting mine as soon as I can get back into it. (Lost IDE on the mainboard due to a bad hdd caddy. UGH.) Went from 320FPS to about 2200FPS... much nicer. EQ runs pretty good in winex now, and NWN looked pretty good for the 10s before it crashed. WOW Matter of fact, EQ died pretty bad on me after about 5 minutes. I think, instead of trying to dick around and get Windows games to play nice in Linux, I'd be better off dual-booting and playing my games in Windows itself. Nice thing about Win2k is that if I don't give it drivers for the Promise card that all my Linux drives are attached to, it can't bugger anything up. =) Yes but tuxracer and frozen bubbles have to rock *grin* James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] radeon 8500
On Mon Jun 23, 2003 at 11:20:54PM -0700, James Sparenberg wrote:
Found something else that worked pretty good... I documented it on the
wiki.
Thanks I plan on documenting mine as soon as I can get back into
it. (Lost IDE on the mainboard due to a bad hdd caddy. UGH.)
Geez... you're having nothing but rotten luck aren't you? And I thought
mine was bad... (reinstalled 9.1/PPC last week due to some not-so-smart rpm
removals, reinstalled 9.1 last night to try to fix this radeon thing,
dealing with DRI and X lockups with the r128 card, then this mess with the
radeon... lots of fun).
Went from 320FPS to about 2200FPS... much nicer. EQ runs pretty good in
winex now, and NWN looked pretty good for the 10s before it crashed.
WOW
No doubt... I almost fell over when I saw that. I was amazed. =) Then
really disappointed that the reason I had put the card in there in the first
place wasn't working too hot (EQ and NWN).
Matter of fact, EQ died pretty bad on me after about 5 minutes.
I think, instead of trying to dick around and get Windows games to play nice
in Linux, I'd be better off dual-booting and playing my games in Windows
itself. Nice thing about Win2k is that if I don't give it drivers for the
Promise card that all my Linux drives are attached to, it can't bugger
anything up. =)
Yes but tuxracer and frozen bubbles have to rock *grin*
You know, I may actually have to try tuxracer out... truth be told, I
haven't given it a go once. But Frozen Bubble should be cool, although it
ran quite nicely before... I can't imagine it taking advantage of too much
3D accel.
Now if I could figure out how to make Quake2 work in 9.1, then I'd be a
*real* happy camper (to the extent that now I'm dual booting to deal with my
RPG cravings).
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Re: [expert] radeon 8500
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 04:02 pm, Vincent Danen wrote: [SNIP cut to the chase!] Looks pretty similar. I have to use the binary drivers tho... no two ways around that. Oh well.. not that big of a deal. At least now I've got a decent resolution... =) Getting the games to behave is a completely different story tho. and you have been here? http://nwn.bioware.com/downloads/linuxclient.html ...and here? http://nwn.bioware.com/support/known.html#23 (this one hints that all may not be well inter Radeon NWN) -but fixing it is definitely a quest worth pursuing :) -- john in sydney Mandrake Linux 9.1, Kernel version: 2.4.21-0.18mdk OpenPGP key available on www.keyserver.net 1024D/3E4A902F B38A AB0F 8658 D9E1 4900 3050 08FA D4FA 3E4A 902F Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] radeon 8500
On Tue Jun 24, 2003 at 07:44:31PM +1000, John Haywood wrote:
Looks pretty similar. I have to use the binary drivers tho... no two ways
around that. Oh well.. not that big of a deal. At least now I've got a
decent resolution... =) Getting the games to behave is a completely
different story tho.
and you have been here?
http://nwn.bioware.com/downloads/linuxclient.html
Yeah... had to download the client somehow... =) Also downloaded the 1.1GB
resource file. What a waste.
...and here?
http://nwn.bioware.com/support/known.html#23
(this one hints that all may not be well inter Radeon NWN)
Nope, not been there. Will check it out, but if there are issues with the
radeon, it doesn't bode well.
-but fixing it is definitely a quest worth pursuing :)
Well, I bought the damn game when it first came out under the impression a
Linux client was like a month away. The only reason I wanted the game was
because it was supposed to be Win/Mac/Linux in one box.
But since Bioware botched that good, and now I've got a Linux client that
doesn't work and if I want a Mac version I have to buy it again, I'm
*extremely* annoyed with them.
Hmmm... Bioware's in town here... maybe I'll go down there and throw rocks
at their windows. =)
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Re: [expert] radeon 8500
On Tuesday 24 June 2003 02:20, James Sparenberg wrote: On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 22:59, Vincent Danen wrote: On Mon Jun 23, 2003 at 06:10:59PM -0700, James Sparenberg wrote: With this vesa driver, are you getting a decent FPS? I'm (currently) getting 320FPS and that really really bites. Went from 320FPS to about 2200FPS... much nicer. EQ runs pretty good in winex now, and NWN looked pretty good for the 10s before it crashed. WOW Matter of fact, EQ died pretty bad on me after about 5 minutes. I think, instead of trying to dick around and get Windows games to play nice in Linux, I'd be better off dual-booting and playing my games in Windows itself. Nice thing about Win2k is that if I don't give it drivers for the Promise card that all my Linux drives are attached to, it can't bugger anything up. =) Yes but tuxracer and frozen bubbles have to rock *grin* James If you mean glxgears, here's what I'm getting on a built by Radeon 9000 Pro with the 3.3ns memory chips, on an Abit KX7/Athlon 1700+ cpu. I don't know if this is good or not, and don't play games at all- just posting it for a reference. This is with the stock Mandrake Radeon driver. I would think on similar hardware, the Radeon 8500 should do as good, or a little better. The scores are higher if the actual gear window is behind a console window- don't know what that means, if anything. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrc1944]$ glxgears Loading required GL library /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2 52851 frames in 5.0 seconds = 10570.200 FPS 53000 frames in 5.0 seconds = 10600.000 FPS 52179 frames in 5.0 seconds = 10435.800 FPS 52642 frames in 5.0 seconds = 10528.400 FPS 52748 frames in 5.0 seconds = 10549.600 FPS Robert Crawford Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] radeon 8500
Vincent Danen wrote: Has anyone gotten this to work with 9.1? I've got a radeon 8500 that I had temporarily put into a machine that just did console, and now I've moved it back to my own machine and I'll be darned if I can make it work properly. I can get 640x480 out of it and that's it... I kinda would like to have 1280x1024 again... =) I pulled out a r128 card, tried XFdrake to make the changes and no dice, so I even did a reinstall last night and still nothing. I'm a total n00b when it comes to X and different cards and even trying some ATI binary drivers resulted in nothing happening and I've been told that the 8500 should work out of the box. Any help would be seriously appreciated. Thanks. Have you checked this page? http://www.zebulon.org.uk/3D8500_en.html -- Dave Sherman MCSE, MCSA, CCNA I think animal testing is a terrible idea; they get all nervous and give the wrong answers. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] radeon 8500
On Mon Jun 23, 2003 at 02:50:59PM -0500, Dave Sherman wrote:
Has anyone gotten this to work with 9.1? I've got a radeon 8500 that I had
temporarily put into a machine that just did console, and now I've moved it
back to my own machine and I'll be darned if I can make it work properly.
I
can get 640x480 out of it and that's it... I kinda would like to have
1280x1024 again... =) I pulled out a r128 card, tried XFdrake to make the
changes and no dice, so I even did a reinstall last night and still
nothing.
I'm a total n00b when it comes to X and different cards and even trying
some
ATI binary drivers resulted in nothing happening and I've been told that
the
8500 should work out of the box.
Any help would be seriously appreciated. Thanks.
Have you checked this page?
http://www.zebulon.org.uk/3D8500_en.html
I didn't... thanks for the link. Some stuff for me to look at. =)
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Re: [expert] radeon 8500
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 13:19:53 -0600 Vincent Danen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm a total n00b when it comes to X and different cards and even trying some ATI binary drivers resulted in nothing happening and I've been told that the 8500 should work out of the box. I can not give specific help with the 8500 but I am using a 9600 Pro on a cooker system. Using the vesa server at 1280x1024 at 16bps with vga=normal I have attached my XF86Config-4 The drivers from ATI can be a problem in that the driver you meed to use is dependent upon your version of XFree And your version of glibc. The r128 used to be a very well supported 3d card but with each new release of XFree that support has dwindled. I can still run it at my normal resolution but I have had to disable dri to prevent X from constantly freezing. Charles -- Behind every great man, there is a woman -- urging him on. -- Harry Mudd, I, Mudd, stardate 4513.3 - Mandrake Linux 9.2 on PurpleDragon Kernel- 2.4.21-0.1mdk http://www.eslrahc.com - XF86Config-4.bz2 Description: Binary data pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [expert] radeon 8500
On Mon Jun 23, 2003 at 05:17:50PM -0400, Charles A Edwards wrote:
I'm a total n00b when it comes to X and different cards and even
trying some ATI binary drivers resulted in nothing happening and I've
been told that the 8500 should work out of the box.
I can not give specific help with the 8500 but I am using a 9600 Pro on
a cooker system.
Using the vesa server at 1280x1024 at 16bps with vga=normal
You boot the kernel with vga=normal?
I have attached my XF86Config-4
The drivers from ATI can be a problem in that the driver you meed to
use is dependent upon your version of XFree And your version of glibc.
Yeah. I'm currently trying to rebuild 4.2.1 for 9.1 since the ATI drivers
work with 4.1 and 4.2... not 4.3.
The r128 used to be a very well supported 3d card but with each new
release of XFree that support has dwindled.
I can still run it at my normal resolution but I have had to disable dri
to prevent X from constantly freezing.
Sounds like the same problem I was having with the r128 card that used to be
in this machine.
With this vesa driver, are you getting a decent FPS? I'm (currently)
getting 320FPS and that really really bites.
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Re: [expert] radeon 8500
On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 12:19, Vincent Danen wrote: Has anyone gotten this to work with 9.1? I've got a radeon 8500 that I had temporarily put into a machine that just did console, and now I've moved it back to my own machine and I'll be darned if I can make it work properly. I can get 640x480 out of it and that's it... I kinda would like to have 1280x1024 again... =) I pulled out a r128 card, tried XFdrake to make the changes and no dice, so I even did a reinstall last night and still nothing. I'm a total n00b when it comes to X and different cards and even trying some ATI binary drivers resulted in nothing happening and I've been told that the 8500 should work out of the box. Any help would be seriously appreciated. Thanks. It comes close One question here. What is your monitor. 90% of the X related problems I've found are related to the wrong monitor settings. Also is it correctly detecting the amount of video ram on this card? James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] radeon 8500
On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 15:03, Vincent Danen wrote: On Mon Jun 23, 2003 at 05:17:50PM -0400, Charles A Edwards wrote: I'm a total n00b when it comes to X and different cards and even trying some ATI binary drivers resulted in nothing happening and I've been told that the 8500 should work out of the box. I can not give specific help with the 8500 but I am using a 9600 Pro on a cooker system. Using the vesa server at 1280x1024 at 16bps with vga=normal You boot the kernel with vga=normal? I have attached my XF86Config-4 The drivers from ATI can be a problem in that the driver you meed to use is dependent upon your version of XFree And your version of glibc. Yeah. I'm currently trying to rebuild 4.2.1 for 9.1 since the ATI drivers work with 4.1 and 4.2... not 4.3. The r128 used to be a very well supported 3d card but with each new release of XFree that support has dwindled. I can still run it at my normal resolution but I have had to disable dri to prevent X from constantly freezing. Sounds like the same problem I was having with the r128 card that used to be in this machine. With this vesa driver, are you getting a decent FPS? I'm (currently) getting 320FPS and that really really bites. Vincent, Go to the site http://www.retinalburn.net/linux/dri_xv.html and take a look at what they have + gatos. They actually have drivers etc built for 4.3. On my poor little laptop (afore it died an unnatural death) I was able to get the ATI mobility chip from about 75fps to 180fps using gatos + what they have. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] radeon 8500
On Monday 23 June 2003 20:57, James Sparenberg wrote: On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 12:19, Vincent Danen wrote: Has anyone gotten this to work with 9.1? I've got a radeon 8500 that I had temporarily put into a machine that just did console, and now I've moved it back to my own machine and I'll be darned if I can make it work properly. I can get 640x480 out of it and that's it... I kinda would like to have 1280x1024 again... =) I pulled out a r128 card, tried XFdrake to make the changes and no dice, so I even did a reinstall last night and still nothing. I'm a total n00b when it comes to X and different cards and even trying some ATI binary drivers resulted in nothing happening and I've been told that the 8500 should work out of the box. Any help would be seriously appreciated. Thanks. It comes close One question here. What is your monitor. 90% of the X related problems I've found are related to the wrong monitor settings. Also is it correctly detecting the amount of video ram on this card? James I agree with James. I have three ATI 9000 Pros on three different installs of MDK 9.1. When I set up X during the install, I ALWAYS have to use the generic 1024x768 @70Hz option in the monitor selection. It detects my monitor correctly as a Gateway ev700, but using that, I never can get any resolution to test out correctly. Come to think of it, I've had to use the generic settings with ANY video card for this monitor. My relevant sections (my 3d acceleration works great with the stock 9.1 Radeon driver): Section Monitor Identifier monitor1 VendorName Generic ModelName 1024x768 @ 70 Hz HorizSync 31.5-57.0 VertRefresh 50-70 Section Module Load dbe # Double-Buffering Extension Load v4l # Video for Linux Load extmod Load type1 Load freetype Load glx # 3D layer Load dri # direct rendering EndSection Section DRI Mode 0666 EndSection Robert Crawford Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
