Re: [expert] video card

2003-09-21 Thread Anne Wilson
On Sunday 21 Sep 2003 12:20 am, Phil G. wrote:
 I had the best case scenario - I got a 9200 Radeon, put it in,
 booted and a text-graphical screen came up to let me configure the
 video.  I only had an option for 8500 - nothing greater is in the
 list.  Works nevertheless.

Can you put it on the TWiki, please?  On the HardwareCompatibility 
page.
http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/HardwareCompatibility

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Re: [expert] video card

2003-09-21 Thread Phil G.
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 08:41:06 +0100, Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:


Can you put it on the TWiki, please?  On the HardwareCompatibility page.
http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/HardwareCompatibility
Done

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Re: [expert] video card

2003-09-21 Thread Anne Wilson
On Sunday 21 Sep 2003 2:25 pm, Phil G. wrote:
 On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 08:41:06 +0100, Anne Wilson
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 wrote:
  Can you put it on the TWiki, please?  On the
  HardwareCompatibility page.
  http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/HardwareCompatibility

 Done

Thanks

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Re: [expert] video card

2003-09-20 Thread Phil G.
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 11:15:17 -0700, James Sparenberg 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Worst case scenario... it can't boot to X and falls back to a text
screen.  No problem here.
As root
# telinit 3 		That gets you to the right run level so X doesn't retry a 
start in the
middle of things.

# drakxconf

This is the tool that will let you reconfigure X (and other things
too.) once tested and good.
# telinit 5

	and you will be back into X just like normal.

Best case scenario.  When it boots you will get a funny looking screen
and need to use Mandrake control center to get back to a normal looking
/ working screen.
I had the best case scenario - I got a 9200 Radeon, put it in, booted and a 
text-graphical screen came up to let me configure the video.  I only had an 
option for 8500 - nothing greater is in the list.  Works nevertheless.

My mouse works better, too.  All this time I thought it was going out and 
it turns out it was the video.

Phil



I anticipate scenario 1 being what you will encounter, either way you
won't need to re-install.
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Re: [expert] video card

2003-09-20 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 16:20, Phil G. wrote:
 On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 11:15:17 -0700, James Sparenberg 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  Worst case scenario... it can't boot to X and falls back to a text
  screen.  No problem here.
 
  As root
  # telinit 3 That gets you to the right run level so X doesn't 
  retry a 
  start in the
  middle of things.
 
  # drakxconf
 
  This is the tool that will let you reconfigure X (and other things
  too.) once tested and good.
 
  # telinit 5
 
  and you will be back into X just like normal.
 
 
  Best case scenario.  When it boots you will get a funny looking screen
  and need to use Mandrake control center to get back to a normal looking
  / working screen.
 
 I had the best case scenario - I got a 9200 Radeon, put it in, booted and a 
 text-graphical screen came up to let me configure the video.  I only had an 
 option for 8500 - nothing greater is in the list.  Works nevertheless.
 
 My mouse works better, too.  All this time I thought it was going out and 
 it turns out it was the video.
 
 Phil
 
 
 
  I anticipate scenario 1 being what you will encounter, either way you
  won't need to re-install.
 
  James

Cool!   BTW I'm often amazed how many people put in monster CPU's with
minimal ram and a 5 year old video card.  You can speed your box up more
by upgrading ram and Video than you would ever believe.

James

 
 
 
 


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Re: [expert] video card

2003-09-19 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 09:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a video card that appears to have gone out. It's a Radeon 8500 LE w/
 128mb.  I'm going to get a new one but want to find out if I will have problems
 booting if I put in a different brand or different version (7000 or 9000, for
 example). 
 
 Thanks for your input,
 
 Phil


Phil,


   Worst case scenario... it can't boot to X and falls back to a text
screen.  No problem here.  

As root
# telinit 3 
That gets you to the right run level so X doesn't retry a start in the
middle of things.

# drakxconf   

This is the tool that will let you reconfigure X (and other things
too.) once tested and good.

# telinit 5 

and you will be back into X just like normal.


Best case scenario.  When it boots you will get a funny looking screen
and need to use Mandrake control center to get back to a normal looking
/ working screen.  


I anticipate scenario 1 being what you will encounter, either way you
won't need to re-install.

James



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Re: [expert] video card

2003-09-19 Thread just-say-no-to-spam
Thanks much!

Phil
 On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 09:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I have a video card that appears to have gone out. It's a Radeon 8500 LE w/
  128mb.  I'm going to get a new one but want to find out if I will have 
 problems
  booting if I put in a different brand or different version (7000 or 9000, for
  example). 
  
  Thanks for your input,
  
  Phil
 
 
 Phil,
 
 
Worst case scenario... it can't boot to X and falls back to a text
 screen.  No problem here.  
 
 As root
 # telinit 3 
   That gets you to the right run level so X doesn't retry a start 
 in the
 middle of things.
 
 # drakxconf   
 
   This is the tool that will let you reconfigure X (and other things
 too.) once tested and good.
 
 # telinit 5 
 
   and you will be back into X just like normal.
 
 
 Best case scenario.  When it boots you will get a funny looking screen
 and need to use Mandrake control center to get back to a normal looking
 / working screen.  
 
 
 I anticipate scenario 1 being what you will encounter, either way you
 won't need to re-install.
 
 James
 
 
 
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Re: [expert] video card recommendations

2002-12-16 Thread Jason Greenwood




The only advice I can offer is not to use anyhting that contains an SIS Chipsetthey
perform, um, erratically with XFree86.

Regards

J

Narfi Stefansson wrote:

  Hi everybody.
I know this is a frequently asked question on this list, but I have a list of 
candidates and I would like your recommendations for the best cards, using 
only free drivers.
I have the following cards in mind:

Leadtek WinFast A170 TH GeForce 4 MX 420 64MB AGP TV-Out
Asus V7100 Pro Pure MX400 64MB AGP
Gainward GeForce2 MX400 64MB AGP
ATI / Powercolor Radeon 9000 64MB DDR 250MHz TV/DVI
ATI Radeon 7500 Dual Head 64MB AGP

The radeon 9000 is a budget version, but still more expensive than the others, 
so that's a minus.
My needs are simple, I'm only looking for a card that's good enough and 
supports AGP 4x, uses free drivers and ...

Above all, it musn't ever freeze, including when switching between X and the 
virtual consoles. 

I don't do any gaming, so that's really not an issue. It's compatibility with 
my motherboard, smoothness in 2-D use and stability that count.

Thanks,

Narfi.

  
  

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Re: [expert] video card recommendations

2002-12-16 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Mon, 16 Dec 2002 16:59:24 -0600
Narfi Stefansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Leadtek WinFast A170 TH GeForce 4 MX 420 64MB AGP TV-Out
 Asus V7100 Pro Pure MX400 64MB AGP
 Gainward GeForce2 MX400 64MB AGP

Toss-up, they all use the same chip.
None are fully supported unless you use the closed-source nvidia drivers
but any should give good 2d performance using the nv driver


 ATI / Powercolor Radeon 9000 64MB DDR 250MHz TV/DVI

Not supported so you would only be able to use the vega driver so it is
at this time not worth any extra cost.

 ATI Radeon 7500 Dual Head 64MB AGP
 
Pass, flaky behavior can vary between systems.
Some have no problem others nothing but.

Would like to add another suggestion that would be in the lower price
range of the cards you listed.
ATI Xpert 2000 32mb using Rage 128 chipset. 
Running it on 2 system with full 3d accel and no problems.
There is a problem (freezing when switching back and forth between X and
the virtual consoles) with the Rage 128 Mobility cards but not with
those used in standard desktops.


Charles


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Re: [expert] video card recommendations

2002-12-16 Thread H. Narfi Stefansson
Quoting Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Mon, 16 Dec 2002 16:59:24 -0600
 Narfi Stefansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Leadtek WinFast A170 TH GeForce 4 MX 420 64MB AGP TV-Out
  Asus V7100 Pro Pure MX400 64MB AGP
  Gainward GeForce2 MX400 64MB AGP
 
 Toss-up, they all use the same chip.
 None are fully supported unless you use the closed-source nvidia drivers
 but any should give good 2d performance using the nv driver
 
 
  ATI / Powercolor Radeon 9000 64MB DDR 250MHz TV/DVI
 
 Not supported so you would only be able to use the vega driver so it is
 at this time not worth any extra cost.
 
  ATI Radeon 7500 Dual Head 64MB AGP
  
 Pass, flaky behavior can vary between systems.
 Some have no problem others nothing but.
 
 Would like to add another suggestion that would be in the lower price
 range of the cards you listed.
 ATI Xpert 2000 32mb using Rage 128 chipset. 
 Running it on 2 system with full 3d accel and no problems.
 There is a problem (freezing when switching back and forth between X and
 the virtual consoles) with the Rage 128 Mobility cards but not with
 those used in standard desktops.

Actually, you may have found the winner ... The ATI Xpert 2000 is not compatible
with my motherboard since I need an AGP 2.0 card.
However, the ATI Xpert 2000 Pro is an AGP 2.0 card, so it runs at 2x/4x and it
is also dirt cheap!
I have used the XPert 2000 for a couple of years now and it's been very stable
for a while (since approx. 8.2) and unless somebody on this list knows the Pro
card to be less stable than the regular Xpert 2000, I'll go for the pro :-)

Thanks for the good advice,

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Re: [expert] video card recommendations

2002-12-16 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Mon, 2002-12-16 at 17:59, Narfi Stefansson wrote:
 Hi everybody.
 I know this is a frequently asked question on this list, but I have a list of 
 candidates and I would like your recommendations for the best cards, using 
 only free drivers.
 I have the following cards in mind:
 
 Leadtek WinFast A170 TH GeForce 4 MX 420 64MB AGP TV-Out
 Asus V7100 Pro Pure MX400 64MB AGP
 Gainward GeForce2 MX400 64MB AGP
 ATI / Powercolor Radeon 9000 64MB DDR 250MHz TV/DVI
 ATI Radeon 7500 Dual Head 64MB AGP

There are more choices out there now than ever before and it IS
bewildering.  What you need to sort things out is a roundup test of a
bunch of boards with chipsets similar to what you are planning on
getting. Here is the start of a graphics board roundup exam:

http://www6.tomshardware.com/graphic/20020206/geforce4-07.html

This gives you some basic specs and sets the stage for the tests.  I
would read the whole article if I were you.

Leadtek and Gainward are good names.  The ATI stuff is OK, but people
have reported trouble getting the newly released Linux ATI drivers to
work with different stuff.  Also, the ATI cards have always been a
little behind the performance of the Nvidia cards.  Throw in the fact
that native Linux drivers were not available until recently for the ATI
cards and you see why they haven't made much headway.  My
recommendation, until something changes, is to stick with Nvidia.

Now we get down to money vs performance.  Since I was unable to find a
roundup listing your exact card model numbers, we can just use the Tom's
hardware roundup here for some approximations.  Quake 3 benches are
always a reliable indicator of how a graphics card is going to perform
in general:

http://www6.tomshardware.com/graphic/20020206/geforce4-12.html

Note that the Geforce 440 MX edges out the Radeon 7500 in most benches
in this article.  This is a good indicator of *approximately* how well
the Leadtek would perform in relation to the other cards.  Leadtek is
not a stranger brand to the tomshardware; they pay attention to the
consumers, so you have probably got a winner in the Leadtek choice.

If you are looking to spend less money, then I would search for roundup
benchmarks comparing the Gainward and Asus MX400 cards, and then decide
from there.  Gainward and Asus are both very good names.  Personally I
lean towards Gainward for performance; but I wouldn't bank on that until
I saw some numbers.

 The radeon 9000 is a budget version, but still more expensive than the others, 
 so that's a minus.
 My needs are simple, I'm only looking for a card that's good enough and 
 supports AGP 4x, uses free drivers and ...
 
 Above all, it musn't ever freeze, including when switching between X and the 
 virtual consoles. 
 
 I don't do any gaming, so that's really not an issue. It's compatibility with 
 my motherboard, smoothness in 2-D use and stability that count.

There are alot of people that don't do gaming, however that type of
testing is the best comparator for judgement of performance vs price.
Business software simply does not stress the hardware. If you wish for a
best determining factor of the cards you have presented, then you should
examine the benches for the whole story.  If you are not concerned
necessarily with value, and are mostly concerned with compatibility,
then I would examine either the Asus or the Gainward closely.  Further,
if compatibility is the main issue, I would venture away from the ATI
stuff for now.

HTH,

LX
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: [expert] video card recommendations

2002-12-16 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Mon, 2002-12-16 at 18:30, Charles A Edwards wrote:
 On Mon, 16 Dec 2002 16:59:24 -0600
 Narfi Stefansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Leadtek WinFast A170 TH GeForce 4 MX 420 64MB AGP TV-Out
  Asus V7100 Pro Pure MX400 64MB AGP
  Gainward GeForce2 MX400 64MB AGP
 
 Toss-up, they all use the same chip.

These guys are not using the same chipset.  While the GeForce 4MX is
based on the Geforce 2MX design, they instituted several improvements
that distinguish the GF4MX from the latter:

Manufactured in TSMC's .15 µ process
Chip clock 250 - 300 MHz
Memory clock 166 - 550 MHz
Memory bandwidth 2,600 - 8,800 MB/s
Accuview Anti Aliasing
Light Speed Memory Architecture II
nView
VPE

So the Leadtek is distinquishable from the others listed at the top,
which are based on the GF2MX.

 None are fully supported unless you use the closed-source nvidia drivers
 but any should give good 2d performance using the nv driver
 

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Re: [expert] Video card help urgent pls,

2002-01-12 Thread Steve Kieu


 My suggestion is to install 8.1, set it to not boot
 into X, then

Yeah, for some reason, the install program hang when
it run the XFree Test, I have to re-install it, and
this time not test; then login . I got the newest
driver from the author of the driver and replave it in
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers ...; run Xdrakes, it
works. Now my question is, is it 3D accelarated card?
If yes, how to configure it, I did not see any thing
similar when compiling the kernel, the DRI module, (it
has AGP though); I have not run any program using
OpenGL yet, not sure if it is ok.
Thanks for the response

 download the newest Xfree packages. These will solve
 your problems with
 the driver. Then boot into X and go from there.
 
 Nelson
 
 On Fri, 2002-01-11 at 16:24, Steve Kieu wrote:
  
  Hi,
  
  I would like to know if the card S3 ProSavage
 KM133 is
  supported by Mandrake and if yes how or which
  documentation for setting it up; Thanks alot
  
  
  
  
  
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Re: [expert] Video card help urgent pls,

2002-01-11 Thread Nelson Bartley

Yes it is supported.

Though it will not work correctly with version 8.1.

My suggestion is to install 8.1, set it to not boot into X, then
download the newest Xfree packages. These will solve your problems with
the driver. Then boot into X and go from there.

Nelson

On Fri, 2002-01-11 at 16:24, Steve Kieu wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I would like to know if the card S3 ProSavage KM133 is
 supported by Mandrake and if yes how or which
 documentation for setting it up; Thanks alot
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [expert] video card memory config?

2000-11-20 Thread Jeff Malka

Thank you

Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Registered Linux user  183185

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From: pgeorges [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2000 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] video card memory config?


 Jeff Malka a écrit :
 
  I'm running Mandrake 7.2 and kde2.
 
  In using DrakConf, I noticed that although my video card (Matrox
Millenium)
  has 4 MB of video ram, the config has it set as only 2 MB.  I would like
to
  correct this error but can find nowhere in DrakConf utilities to do so.
How
  is this done?

 Direct change videoram parameter in /etc/X11/XF86Config








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Re: [expert] video card memory config?

2000-11-19 Thread pgeorges

Jeff Malka a écrit :
 
 I'm running Mandrake 7.2 and kde2.
 
 In using DrakConf, I noticed that although my video card (Matrox Millenium)
 has 4 MB of video ram, the config has it set as only 2 MB.  I would like to
 correct this error but can find nowhere in DrakConf utilities to do so.  How
 is this done?

Direct change videoram parameter in /etc/X11/XF86Config



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Re: [expert] video card memory config?

2000-11-19 Thread Marsden MacRae

pgeorges wrote:
 
 Jeff Malka a écrit :
 
  I'm running Mandrake 7.2 and kde2.
 
  In using DrakConf, I noticed that although my video card (Matrox Millenium)
  has 4 MB of video ram, the config has it set as only 2 MB.  I would like to
  correct this error but can find nowhere in DrakConf utilities to do so.  How
  is this done?
 
 Direct change videoram parameter in /etc/X11/XF86Config

While we're talking about this, is there a way to configure the
addresses of the video ram?

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Re: [expert] video card help

2000-04-26 Thread John Aldrich

On Wed, 26 Apr 2000, you wrote:
 The company I bought the Diamond S3 Trio card from is willing to help. 
 I think it will be best if I stick to a PCI card. I found two 16mb that
 might work. No box version. 
 
Voodoo3/3000. It works out of the box (with the correct X
server.) If you want 3d hardware acceleration, you can
hand-compile some stuff from the src.rpm and such (Mesa3d
and glide drivers) but it works fine with the correct X
server RPM installed.
John



Re: [expert] video card

2000-04-24 Thread Dennis Robertson

Civileme wrote:
 


 Everything I have tried with ATI seems to work.  Trident does
 with "noaccel" and other tweaks.  Even the infamous SiS6326 seems
 to work well under Air.
 
 Civileme

I got my Trident to work with Option "noaccel" and my present SiS6326
with Option "sw_cursor".  I tried an Octek 8mb AGP card with an S3 Trio
3D/2X chipset and couldn't get it to work;  I took it back.
Good luck.

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Re: [expert] video card

2000-04-23 Thread Civileme

Pj wrote:
 
 I installed "Air" Power Pack tonight with the help of a L-M guru. We ran
 into some weird things while trying to install the video card. This guru
 is a sys adm with several years of *NIX and programming experience and
 runs the same version on his machines as well as S3Virge video card.
 
 When I built this machine I ordered a Diamond S3Virge3D/2D AGP/8MG
 memory. It is guaranteed to work under Linux, and is the only part I
 ordered that wasn't a 'boxed' version. The card is installed in the AGP
 port.
 
 We tried three different methods to install it including SuperProbe. We
 tried different monitor settings including 'custom.' Nothing worked, but
 I discovered Winblows calls it a S3Inc.Trio 3D/2X. Linux calls it a
 S3Trio3D/2X PCI. I was told it was a Virge 3D/2D -not 2X- with the S3
 chip from Diamond. The CD-ROM I received is a Diamond Speedstar A55.
 
 I've seen several threads about video cards and a recent one about SiS
 chip and I don't mean to confuse the issue but I have a couple of
 questions.
 
 My Tyan 1590 board has the SiS chip. Would this have any effect on the
 video card? Secondly, what do I have and what should I do about it?
 
 My inclination is to send it back and get the correct card. If this
 isn't what I should use with "Air", what should I order? I do have a
 AOPEN S3Virge PCI that does run under L-M very nicely, but it only has
 2mg memory.
 
 All comments will be appreciated.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Pj
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Diamond is probably the WORST of all companies to get any
information from to write a driver.

I have an old Stealth 2000 which uses the S3 Virge/GX.  I have
installed successfully with several other cards using that
chipset,

Not so with the Diamond.

Your 1590 board has an SiS Chipset for system resources, like
cache management, PCI to ISA Bridge, Bus arbitration, and the
like.  That is not an SiS Video Chipset, though some newer SiS
Chipsets are made with video and audio built-in.  This is
strictly a problem with Diamond's need to be different and its
need to be secretive.

Send the board back by all means, and get any Trident or S3 or
ATI implementation from someone else.  Just make sure it is the
retail boxed version.  Don't mess with OEM stuff unless you want
to learn a LOT in a very short while.

Question, though.  Dis this board work with Venus?  If so, it may
be possible to restore operation by secondary means.  The
secondary means are to go into /etc/X11/XF86Config and remove
every modeline that has a resolution you don't want, then to add
options to the Devices section like "noaccel" "linear" and so on
until you find a combination that works.  It is more like
plumbing than like science to do it this way, but I have had some
startling results with it.  (not with the Stealth card, though).

Everything I have tried with ATI seems to work.  Trident does
with "noaccel" and other tweaks.  Even the infamous SiS6326 seems
to work well under Air.  

Civileme



Re: [expert] video card

2000-04-23 Thread David M. Kufta

On Sun, 23 Apr 2000, Civileme wrote:

 Pj wrote:
  
  I installed "Air" Power Pack tonight with the help of a L-M guru. We ran
  into some weird things while trying to install the video card. This guru
  is a sys adm with several years of *NIX and programming experience and
  runs the same version on his machines as well as S3Virge video card.
  
  When I built this machine I ordered a Diamond S3Virge3D/2D AGP/8MG
  memory. It is guaranteed to work under Linux, and is the only part I
  ordered that wasn't a 'boxed' version. The card is installed in the AGP
  port.
  
  We tried three different methods to install it including SuperProbe. We
  tried different monitor settings including 'custom.' Nothing worked, but
  I discovered Winblows calls it a S3Inc.Trio 3D/2X. Linux calls it a
  S3Trio3D/2X PCI. I was told it was a Virge 3D/2D -not 2X- with the S3
  chip from Diamond. The CD-ROM I received is a Diamond Speedstar A55.
  
  I've seen several threads about video cards and a recent one about SiS
  chip and I don't mean to confuse the issue but I have a couple of
  questions.
  
  My Tyan 1590 board has the SiS chip. Would this have any effect on the
  video card? Secondly, what do I have and what should I do about it?
  
  My inclination is to send it back and get the correct card. If this
  isn't what I should use with "Air", what should I order? I do have a
  AOPEN S3Virge PCI that does run under L-M very nicely, but it only has
  2mg memory.
  
  All comments will be appreciated.
  
  Thanks,
  
  Pj
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Diamond is probably the WORST of all companies to get any
 information from to write a driver.
 
 I have an old Stealth 2000 which uses the S3 Virge/GX.  I have
 installed successfully with several other cards using that
 chipset,
 
 Not so with the Diamond.
 
 Your 1590 board has an SiS Chipset for system resources, like
 cache management, PCI to ISA Bridge, Bus arbitration, and the
 like.  That is not an SiS Video Chipset, though some newer SiS
 Chipsets are made with video and audio built-in.  This is
 strictly a problem with Diamond's need to be different and its
 need to be secretive.
 
 Send the board back by all means, and get any Trident or S3 or
 ATI implementation from someone else.  Just make sure it is the
 retail boxed version.  Don't mess with OEM stuff unless you want
 to learn a LOT in a very short while.
 
 Question, though.  Dis this board work with Venus?  If so, it may
 be possible to restore operation by secondary means.  The
 secondary means are to go into /etc/X11/XF86Config and remove
 every modeline that has a resolution you don't want, then to add
 options to the Devices section like "noaccel" "linear" and so on
 until you find a combination that works.  It is more like
 plumbing than like science to do it this way, but I have had some
 startling results with it.  (not with the Stealth card, though).
 
 Everything I have tried with ATI seems to work.  Trident does
 with "noaccel" and other tweaks.  Even the infamous SiS6326 seems
 to work well under Air.  
 
 Civileme
 
Happy Easter List,
 Is there any reason that the /usr/lib/X11/XF86Config.eg file could not be
used as a base config and simply add the "noaccel" option and allow some
semblence of a working Xwindow ?
 Obviously some tunning would be necessary to give proper setting for
video ram etc. however I would think this should at least allow Xwindow to
start.
 -- 
 Dave

Well, O.K.  I'll compromise with my principles because of EXISTENTIAL 
DESPAIR!




Re: [expert] video card

2000-04-23 Thread John Aldrich

On Sun, 23 Apr 2000, you wrote:
 I installed "Air" Power Pack tonight with the help of a L-M guru. We ran
 into some weird things while trying to install the video card. This guru
 is a sys adm with several years of *NIX and programming experience and
 runs the same version on his machines as well as S3Virge video card. 
 
 When I built this machine I ordered a Diamond S3Virge3D/2D AGP/8MG
 memory. It is guaranteed to work under Linux, and is the only part I
 ordered that wasn't a 'boxed' version. The card is installed in the AGP
 port.  
 
 We tried three different methods to install it including SuperProbe. We
 tried different monitor settings including 'custom.' Nothing worked, but
 I discovered Winblows calls it a S3Inc.Trio 3D/2X. Linux calls it a
 S3Trio3D/2X PCI. I was told it was a Virge 3D/2D -not 2X- with the S3
 chip from Diamond. The CD-ROM I received is a Diamond Speedstar A55. 
 
AAAR!!! Not the Trio3D again! Sheesh! 
According to Xfree86.org's website
(www.xfree86.org/cardlist.html) the ONLY server that'll
work with the Trio3D is the VGA16 server. You do NOT want
that, because that (iirc) means you only get 16 colors.

This, I think, only applies to the 3.3.x Xfree86. I don't
see any "new" documentation on their website for the 4.x
version of XFree86
John



Re: [expert] Video Card Setup Help Needed

2000-01-11 Thread Sevatio Octavio

Thanks so much for your reply.  Luckily I was able to get a Riva TNT to work.  Despite 
this, I'm just glad the soundcard ran without
tampering.

Thanks again.

seve

-Original Message-
From: S. Newhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, January 10, 2000 6:19 AM
Subject: [expert] Video Card Setup Help Needed


What video card are you trying to use?  The only one I have had
trouble with is the ATI All in Wonder 128.

-sen

Matrox, Diamond, n Sevatio Octavio writes:
  Okay, this is getting ridiculous.  Perhaps one of you can give me some insights 
for this problem.
 
  I have a 400PII with an ASUS motherboard trying to run Mdk 6.1.  I've taken 
videocards that work in other systems and tried it
in
  this 400PII/ASUS box and I can't get XFree86 to work with any videocards.  Is it 
possible that some ASUS boards can't work with
  linux?  Or perhaps there are some BIOS settings that I must correct?
 
  Seve
 




Re: [expert] Video Card Setup Help Needed

2000-01-10 Thread John Aldrich

What video cards (specifically) are you trying to use?
I don't think there's any known problems with ASUS motherboards...
John

-
Click here for Free Video!!
http://www.gohip.com/freevideo/

- Original Message -
From: "Sevatio Octavio" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2000 9:16 PM
Subject: [expert] Video Card Setup Help Needed


 Okay, this is getting ridiculous.  Perhaps one of you can give me some
insights for this problem.

 I have a 400PII with an ASUS motherboard trying to run Mdk 6.1.  I've
taken videocards that work in other systems and tried it in
 this 400PII/ASUS box and I can't get XFree86 to work with any videocards.
Is it possible that some ASUS boards can't work with
 linux?  Or perhaps there are some BIOS settings that I must correct?

 Seve




Re: [expert] Video card and sound

1999-10-02 Thread John Aldrich

On Fri, 01 Oct 1999, you wrote:
 I only started seeing that bug on Mandrake 6.02 with one KDE user the
 rest are fine.
 Jeaenette

Yeah...it only affects certain implementations of the Virge
chipset...for example, my favorite hardware store sold me an AOPEN S3
Virge GX. That one has the problem. They have an S3 Virge GX by
another manufacturer and it doesn't. Wierd
John



Re: [expert] Video card and sound

1999-10-01 Thread Steve Philp

Ricardo Kleemann wrote:
 
 Hi guys,
 
 Can someone suggest a good video card that is well supported by linux?

Check the XFree86 website at http://www.xfree86.com for a list of
supported cards.

 On the same note I'm having trouble with sound under mandrake 6.1.
 I have an Xwave 3000 card, I guess it's not supported, but it claims to be
 fully soundblaster and soundblaster Pro compatible. It is not seen by
 linux, though, because it doesnt even show up in /proc/interrupts

If you have DOS still available, see if the soundcard has to load
compatibility drivers to work in DOS.  If it does, you'll probably need
to investigate using loadlin to start Linux.

Another thing you could check is http://www.opensound.com.  They write
sound card drivers for Linux and have support for a wider range of cards
than supported by the Linux kernel.  It's $20 to buy them, but they do
have time-limited demos you can download to see if it works for your
card.

-- 
Steve Philp "The Internet is like crack 
Network Administratorfor smart people..."
Advance Packaging Corporation   --Arsenio Hall
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [expert] Video card and sound

1999-10-01 Thread Jack Malone

At 04:52 PM 10/1/99 -0500, you wrote:
pretty much anything by matrox is well supported as well as most s3 stuff
. there are alot of others but these seem to work very well for me


David


I have had real good luck with my ati expert@work agp card an also the
all-in-wonder tv card in my other machine 

jack 
Jack Malone
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.ballistic.com/~jemalone


Luke 4:18-19
"The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because he has anointed me to preach
good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners
and recovery of sight for the blind, to release the oppressed,
to proclaim the year of the Lord's favor."
(NIV)




Re: [expert] Video card and sound

1999-10-01 Thread Ricardo Kleemann

Thanks John!

On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, John Aldrich wrote:

 On Fri, 01 Oct 1999, you wrote:
  Hi guys,
  
  Can someone suggest a good video card that is well supported by linux?
  
 Graphics Blaster TNT. :-) With some downloaded drivers,
 it's supposed to do 3D acceleration even! :-)

Great... and where would I get those drivers? How much video ram does it
have? 

  On the same note I'm having trouble with sound under
  mandrake 6.1.  I have an Xwave 3000 card, I guess it's
  not supported, but it claims to be fully soundblaster and
  soundblaster Pro compatible. It is not seen by linux,
  though, because it doesnt even show up in /proc/interrupts
 
 Well, then that's your answer. :-)
 Go out and get a true-blue AWE32 or AWE64 and enjoy! :-)

Thanks!
Ricardo



Re: [expert] Video card and sound

1999-10-01 Thread Jack Malone

At 06:30 PM 10/1/99 -0500, you wrote:
I have had excellent luck with S3 Virge DX video cards.  I have run them
on everything from Slackware to RH to Caldera to Mandrake, Solaris, SCO
UNIXWARE and SOLARIS with no problems.  I am also using an S3 Virge MX
chip in my laptop and running RH6.  Stay away from the S3 Trio AGP a lot
of people seem to have trouble with that one.   I have never tried an
AGP card in Linux yet.
Jeanette


I have no trouble with my ati xpert@work agp video card in linux it works
great. 


Ricardo Kleemann wrote:
 
 Hi guys,
 
 Can someone suggest a good video card that is well supported by linux?
 
 On the same note I'm having trouble with sound under mandrake 6.1.
 I have an Xwave 3000 card, I guess it's not supported, but it claims to be
 fully soundblaster and soundblaster Pro compatible. It is not seen by
 linux, though, because it doesnt even show up in /proc/interrupts
 
  My /proc/sound states:
 
 OSS/Free:3.8s2++-971130
 Load type: Driver loaded as a module
 Kernel: Linux ricardo.americasnet.com 2.2.13-7mdk #1 Wed Sep 15 18:02:18
 CEST 1999 i586
 Config options: 0
 
 Installed drivers:
 
 Card config:
 
 Audio devices:
 
 Synth devices:
 
 Midi devices:
 
 Timers:
 0: System clock
 
 Mixers:
 
 Thanks
 Ricardo


Jack Malone
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.ballistic.com/~jemalone


Luke 4:18-19
"The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because he has anointed me to preach
good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners
and recovery of sight for the blind, to release the oppressed,
to proclaim the year of the Lord's favor."
(NIV)