[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO ishta mantras in India
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems to me, that we are all different aspects of God... And that maybe He should go back on his antipsychotic meds... :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: John Bolton's Nomination/Secret Downing St, Memos...'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Though it is not nuclear (and thank God for that) this middle east vs usa conflict right now is world war three, and Bush started it. I wonder what karma holds in store for him? Some Tibetan traditions speak of the long-term (physical, extending over many lifetimes, unfathomable) results of karma, and of the short-term (mental, having to do with the state of attention brought upon by one's actions, *immediate*, easily identifiable) results of karma. Reports of Bush in his daily life as president seem to indicate that he lives in a perpetual world of fear and paranoia. In South America recently, he refused to join a dinner of fellow leaders of Latin American countries because the hosting country wouldn't force them all to walk through a metal detector to enter the room. He's been known to hit the ground and lie there quivering at the sound of a car backfiring. One could suggest that the immediate, short-term effects of his karma that we see reflected in his everyday state of attention hint rather strongly at what's going to happen to him long-term. Looks pretty fathomable to me... Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Wouldja bija (was Re: Digest Number 2905) Where from?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For anything to exist, it has to exist in some way. In unity, wholeness is all that is seen. In waking state consciousness everything thing is seen in a limited sense, limited by characteristic of some sort. Our minds force wholeness to exist in some way. We cannot conceive of God in it's true nature which is seamless wholeness so we force God into a shape, into something that we can relate to, something that looks like we think it looks. What do laws of nature look like? They don't look like any thing but can be described as having characteristics based on their function and over time these characteristics are built out into recognizable icons that describe the indescribable and how they relate to the human; things such as silence and dynamism, as Shiva and Vishnu which are essentially aspects of ones own consciousness. So on our trip to recognizing wholeness we see God as the sun or as a buffalo or as Jesus or as yahweh or as Allah or as a million other ideas of what God is. God doesn't care, God will be whatever you want God to be as long as you are sincere in your devotion. Nice rap. This also seems to be borne out by the subjective reports of saints through the ages and of modern people who meet God via near-death exper- iences. God always looks to them the way they expect God to look. Christians meet Christ or an Old Testa- ment God, Native Americans meet someone different, Hindus describe meeting the classic Gods of that teaching, and Buddhists describe emptiness or formlessness. Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: many thousands initiated in India?
What I wonder is whether in Maharishi's Vedic India fantasy, anyone would be allowed to *not* meditate if they so chose. He used to speak, half jokingly, of meditation police who would apprehend people seen on the street with long faces and put them in meditation asylums. What makes you think he was joking? That's certainly the way he has run his organizations internally, by demanding adherence to the way things should be and punishing wrongdoers with shunning or excom- munication. On an unrelated note, was anyone at the Santa Barbara ATR when he went on for at least 15 minutes with an analogy that TM was just like screwing? We were all straining like crazy not to laugh, but utterly failing. Wasn't there, but the thing that strikes me about the story is the attempt to suppress laughter. What IS it about most spiritual traditions that makes people afraid to laugh at that which they hold sacred? One would think that it'd be the other way around. If the nature of life is joy, one would think one would become *funnier* as one evolved, not more serious. Unc Seriousness is not a virtue. - G.K. Chesterton To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Digest Number 2917
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And regarding *why* Clint's movies as a director tend to be good, a TM friend who had grown up with Clint told me an interesting story about him. He started as a handsome TV cowboy, on Rawhide. But even then he realized that the career lifespan of a handsome TV cowboy was not what he wanted to settle for, so he spent every minute that he wasn't in front of the cameras *behind* the cameras, going around and talking to everyone on the set, finding out how they did their jobs and what made them good at it. He basically edu- cated himself in filmmaking. To this day, they say that a Clint-directed movie is one of the most bankable in the business because he never goes a day over schedule or a dollar over budget. He is famous for having the tightest crews in the biz, because he knows what he's looking for in a cinematog- rapher or a gaffer or a lighting technician and hires the best, and knows how to talk to them to get the effects and the results he's looking for. I always liked this story, because it says a lot about the man behind the icon. He's humble, willing to learn, not afraid to mix with the common folk and learn from them, and he has goals in life and does what is neces- sary -- *whatever* is necessary -- to achieve them. I ran into him once in his bar in Carmel, years after the incident at Maharishi's hotel door. He was sitting in with the jazz band at the bar, playing piano and laughing with all the customers. I walked over to say hi and he not only remembered me and the sock incident, he remembered my name. It had been probably twenty years at that point since he had seen me, a few times in one day, when I was in a menial position driving him around or standing at the door of a hotel room. Since the tendency to self-educate and treat everyone as equals obviously predates his involvement with TM, I don't ascribe his success to meditating, merely to being an interesting guy who walks the walk of his life with almost as much style as his onscreen characters do. Unc Great story, Unc - thanks for posting it. Must've made an impression on him - 20yrs is a long time. Does he play well? JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Digest Number 2917
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great story, Unc - thanks for posting it. Must've made an impression on him - 20yrs is a long time. Does he play well? He's no Keith Jarrett, but he plays adequately, and he knows his jazz. His film Bird was a labor of love. Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Maharishi's real name?
If Allahabad University lists him as: Sri M.C. Srivastava (Universally known as Maharishi Mahesh Yogi) and his passport lists him either as Prasad Varma or Bal Brahmachari Mahesh Varma - anyone know his real name or why there is confusion between his passport and his alumni listing? Is he a Varma or a Srivastava? Or am I not understanding Indian names properly? JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] The Politics of Spiritual Belief
Here's a question that came up first on another forum of which I am a member. The responses were interesting, and members have since posted it on a number of other forums -- Christian, Buddhist, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, atheist, Native American -- in which the responses were equally interesting and even more varied. So I'm posting it here to see what the responses might be on this primarily TM-centered forum. I think we all know what Maharishi's answer would be to the question; he has made it clear many times in the past. I'm just curious to know what individual people here think. The original question, posed by a Tibetan Buddhist monk, was: If you knew of a spiritual practice that you were *certain* produced beneficial effects to all who practice it, and produced equally beneficial effects for the world as a whole, and you had the ability to legislate the practice and force everyone to do it, would it be ethical to do so; that is, would such an approach be in accord with the dharma? Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditate for a Fee or for Free
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FCK is that a joke? U kidding? :-) The cleverness meter just went into the red! F-you-ck!? [fak] :} To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's real name?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If Allahabad University lists him as: Sri M.C. Srivastava (Universally known as Maharishi Mahesh Yogi) and his passport lists him either as Prasad Varma or Bal Brahmachari Mahesh Varma - anyone know his real name or why there is confusion between his passport and his alumni listing? Is he a Varma or a Srivastava? Or am I not understanding Indian names properly? JohnY I quote a relevant passage from my biography of MMY (or PV or MCS) 'Quite why Mahesh is known by two names, Mahesh Prasad Varma and M C Srivastava, is difficult to establish. But, maybe the rumour is correct which suggests that Mahesh left his family home early in life and, since he appears to have maintained close links with both his Uncle Raj R P Varma and his nephew Girish Chandra Varma, it might be speculated that it was with their family that he spent some of his childhood, perhaps temporarily assuming the family name?' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's real name?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If Allahabad University lists him as: Sri M.C. Srivastava (Universally known as Maharishi Mahesh Yogi) and his passport lists him either as Prasad Varma or Bal Brahmachari Mahesh Varma - anyone know his real name or why there is confusion between his passport and his alumni listing? Is he a Varma or a Srivastava? Or am I not understanding Indian names properly? JohnY A passage from my biography of MMY (or MPV or MCS) Quite why Mahesh is known by two names, Mahesh Prasad Varma and M C Srivastava, is difficult to establish. But, maybe the rumour is correct which suggests that Mahesh left his family home early in life and, since he appears to have maintained close links with both his Uncle Raj R P Varma and Raj's son Girish Chandra Varma, it might be speculated that it was with their family that he spent some of his childhood, perhaps temporarily assuming the family name? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Politics of Spiritual Belief
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a question that came up first on another forum of which I am a member. The responses were interesting, and members have since posted it on a number of other forums -- Christian, Buddhist, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, atheist, Native American -- in which the responses were equally interesting and even more varied. So I'm posting it here to see what the responses might be on this primarily TM-centered forum. I think we all know what Maharishi's answer would be to the question; he has made it clear many times in the past. I'm just curious to know what individual people here think. The original question, posed by a Tibetan Buddhist monk, was: If you knew of a spiritual practice that you were *certain* produced beneficial effects to all who practice it, and produced equally beneficial effects for the world as a whole, and you had the ability to legislate the practice and force everyone to do it, would it be ethical to do so; that is, would such an approach be in accord with the dharma? Unc Absolutely not! An absurd idea! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] MMY's uncle Pundit Dubey
re Dr. Raj R. P. Varma - apparently is the author of Strange Facts About A Great Saint: His Divinity Swami Brahmanand Saraswati Maharaj, Jagad Guru Shankaracharya of Jyotirmath, Badarikashram, Himalyas an extract of which appears in: http://www.vidyafoundation.com/Public/Home/UnderstandingYagya/KindsofY agyas/GuruDevonPersonalDeities/index.cfm which is the site of Vidya Foundation - started by Pundit Dubey (ex teacher of Pundits and Special Consultant on the subjects of Jyotish and Yagya to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi). Still associated with MMY? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If Allahabad University lists him as: Sri M.C. Srivastava (Universally known as Maharishi Mahesh Yogi) and his passport lists him either as Prasad Varma or Bal Brahmachari Mahesh Varma - anyone know his real name or why there is confusion between his passport and his alumni listing? Is he a Varma or a Srivastava? Or am I not understanding Indian names properly? JohnY A passage from my biography of MMY (or MPV or MCS) Quite why Mahesh is known by two names, Mahesh Prasad Varma and M C Srivastava, is difficult to establish. But, maybe the rumour is correct which suggests that Mahesh left his family home early in life and, since he appears to have maintained close links with both his Uncle Raj R P Varma and Raj's son Girish Chandra Varma, it might be speculated that it was with their family that he spent some of his childhood, perhaps temporarily assuming the family name? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Politics of Spiritual Belief
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you knew of a spiritual practice that you were *certain* produced beneficial effects to all who practice it, and produced equally beneficial effects for the world as a whole, and you had the ability to legislate the practice and force everyone to do it, would it be ethical to do so; that is, would such an approach be in accord with the dharma? Unc As a Scientologist, I can say emphatically: NO Code of a Scientologist Point 12: I pledge myself to support the freedom of religion Scientology Prayer for Total Freedom (excerpt) We pray that human rights will be perserved so that all people may believe and worship freely Excerpt from My Philosophy by L. Ron Hubbard: For I know no man who has any monopoly upon the wisdom of this universe. Excerpt, Personal Integrity by L. Ron Hubbard: What is true for you is what you have observed yourself And when you lose that you have lost everything Jeff Fischer To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Politics of Spiritual Belief
--- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip If you knew of a spiritual practice that you were *certain* produced beneficial effects to all who practice it, and produced equally beneficial effects for the world as a whole, and you had the ability to legislate the practice and force everyone to do it, would it be ethical to do so; that is, would such an approach be in accord with the dharma? Unc I see this as a non-dilemma. You're assuming, in your proposition, such a teaching/technique exists and such an assumption is false. It is the belief that a teaching is universally beneficial to all people that creates the horrible religious conflicts and spiritual elitism that have always wracked the world. the only way to know if a spiritual practice is beneficial to you is to practice it for some time and see what happens. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Discover Yahoo! Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/online.html To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: many thousands initiated in India?
--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/1/05 12:39 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I wonder is whether in Maharishi's Vedic India fantasy, anyone would be allowed to *not* meditate if they so chose. He used to speak, half jokingly, of meditation police who would apprehend people seen on the street with long faces and put them in meditation asylums. On an unrelated note, was anyone at the Santa Barbara ATR when he went on for at least 15 minutes with an analogy that TM was just like screwing? We were all straining like crazy not to laugh, but utterly failing. One time on my TTC in Punta Umbria, Spain, MMY, in some context that I now forget, started talking about flatulance. He said, and I do quote here, This gas, each with its own color and flavor. Everybody was laughing like crazy and MMY was looking around, chuckling lightly at our laughter, but not quite understanding why we were laughing so hard. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Politics of Spiritual Belief
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip If you knew of a spiritual practice that you were *certain* produced beneficial effects to all who practice it, and produced equally beneficial effects for the world as a whole, and you had the ability to legislate the practice and force everyone to do it, would it be ethical to do so; that is, would such an approach be in accord with the dharma? Unc I see this as a non-dilemma. You're assuming, in your proposition, such a teaching/technique exists and such an assumption is false. It is the belief that a teaching is universally beneficial to all people that creates the horrible religious conflicts and spiritual elitism that have always wracked the world. the only way to know if a spiritual practice is beneficial to you is to practice it for some time and see what happens. I agree. Jeff To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Discover Yahoo! Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/online.html To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Politics of Spiritual Belief
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a question that came up first on another forum of which I am a member. The responses were interesting, and members have since posted it on a number of other forums -- Christian, Buddhist, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, atheist, Native American -- in which the responses were equally interesting and even more varied. So I'm posting it here to see what the responses might be on this primarily TM-centered forum. I think we all know what Maharishi's answer would be to the question; he has made it clear many times in the past. I'm just curious to know what individual people here think. The original question, posed by a Tibetan Buddhist monk, was: If you knew of a spiritual practice that you were *certain* produced beneficial effects to all who practice it, and produced equally beneficial effects for the world as a whole, and you had the ability to legislate the practice and force everyone to do it, would it be ethical to do so; that is, would such an approach be in accord with the dharma? Unc If you are `certain' that a practice produces beneficial effects to everyone in every circumstance even when people are forced to do it, this certainty still doesn't guarantee that the practise actually is beneficial. And what you understand to be beneficial may not be that according to somebody else's standards. If a practise is truly beneficial to most people, it will spread by itself as fast as people are capable of appreciating and adopting it. E.g. meditation may have some beneficial influence on many people in some aspects. But it also takes time to do it and because of it you may have to drop some other activity. If it means that you spend clearly less time with your children or drop physical exercise, the overall effect may not be beneficial. Irmeli To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: many thousands initiated in India?
Rick, did that ATR start in Dec. '72 and Maharishi came for the last 2 weeks or so? Do you remember more of the analogy? ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/1/05 12:39 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I wonder is whether in Maharishi's Vedic India fantasy, anyone would be allowed to *not* meditate if they so chose. He used to speak, half jokingly, of meditation police who would apprehend people seen on the street with long faces and put them in meditation asylums. On an unrelated note, was anyone at the Santa Barbara ATR when he went on for at least 15 minutes with an analogy that TM was just like screwing? We were all straining like crazy not to laugh, but utterly failing. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's real name?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If Allahabad University lists him as: Sri M.C. Srivastava (Universally known as Maharishi Mahesh Yogi) and his passport lists him either as Prasad Varma or Bal Brahmachari Mahesh Varma - anyone know his real name or why there is confusion between his passport and his alumni listing? Is he a Varma or a Srivastava? Or am I not understanding Indian names properly? JohnY A passage from my biography of MMY (or MPV or MCS) Quite why Mahesh is known by two names, Mahesh Prasad Varma and M C Srivastava, is difficult to establish. But, maybe the rumour is correct which suggests that Mahesh left his family home early in life and, since he appears to have maintained close links with both his Uncle Raj R P Varma and Raj's son Girish Chandra Varma, it might be speculated that it was with their family that he spent some of his childhood, perhaps temporarily assuming the family name? (Have and enjoyed your book), Paul: Wouldn't it be unusual to 'temporarly' assume a family name ? JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Politics of Spiritual Belief
Here's a question that came up first on another forum of which I am a member. The responses were interesting, and members have since posted it on a number of other forums -- Christian, Buddhist, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, atheist, Native American -- in which the responses were equally interesting and even more varied. So I'm posting it here to see what the responses might be on this primarily TM-centered forum. I think we all know what Maharishi's answer would be to the question; he has made it clear many times in the past. I'm just curious to know what individual people here think. The original question, posed by a Tibetan Buddhist monk, was: If you knew of a spiritual practice that you were *certain* produced beneficial effects to all who practice it, and produced equally beneficial effects for the world as a whole, and you had the ability to legislate the practice and force everyone to do it, would it be ethical to do so; that is, would such an approach be in accord with the dharma? Absolutely not! An absurd idea! My answer was also an unqualified No. I'm not making any judgments on people's replies, BTW. I just agreed to post the question here and forward them, without any names attached, to the fellow who first posed the question. He's interested more in the variety of responses and the thinking behind them, as preliminary information for a thesis he intends to write. Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Politics of Spiritual Belief
on 6/1/05 4:15 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you knew of a spiritual practice that you were *certain* produced beneficial effects to all who practice it, and produced equally beneficial effects for the world as a whole, and you had the ability to legislate the practice and force everyone to do it, would it be ethical to do so; that is, would such an approach be in accord with the dharma? You can't force people to do a spiritual practice. Even if it is theoretically beneficial for all, it won't be beneficial for someone forced to practice it. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] What is Heaven on Earth?
This term isthrown about like dice. It seems to be a big motivator. I am curious what it means.Heaven on Earthseems the catch-all phrase for many religious and New Agey types, just as "fighting terrorism" is the catch-all phrase for the government for doing whatever it wants to do. So is there a heaven at all? Is it the same for everybody? Who gets a piece? If Earth is red and Heaven is blue then will Heaven on earth be Purple? Or will it be as Maharishi has made us think, that no sidhafoot will touch the ground? If a heaven is to come to earth then we should know what to expect and what to work for, no? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What is Heaven on Earth?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This term is thrown about like dice. It seems to be a big motivator. I am curious what it means. Heaven on Earth seems the catch-all phrase for many religious and New Agey types, just as fighting terrorism is the catch-all phrase for the government for doing whatever it wants to do. So is there a heaven at all? Is it the same for everybody? Who gets a piece? If Earth is red and Heaven is blue then will Heaven on earth be Purple? Or will it be as Maharishi has made us think, that no sidha foot will touch the ground? If a heaven is to come to earth then we should know what to expect and what to work for, no? I think the safest definition to work from is Leonard Cohen's from his song 'Closing Time,' set in a bar that he describes as deader than Heaven on a Saturday night. I mean, think about the people who talk about Heaven a lot. Would *you* want to be stuck with them for eternity in the kind of place they'd consider Heaven? :-) Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] What is Heaven on Earth?
I think "heaven on earth' would have to do with the healing of fears and the expansion of love. You could relate to your own experience, that those times when there was most love and harmony in your life, you could think of it as heavenly. At other times when fear and stress dominated, life felt like hell. Life always comes back to individual experience and where we put our attention; whether on things that uplift, or things that degrade...Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This term isthrown about like dice. It seems to be a big motivator. I am curious what it means.Heaven on Earthseems the catch-all phrase for many religious and New Agey types, just as "fighting terrorism" is the catch-all phrase for the government for doing whatever it wants to do. So is there a heaven at all? Is it the same for everybody? Who gets a piece? If Earth is red and Heaven is blue then will Heaven on earth be Purple? Or will it be as Maharishi has made us think, that no sidhafoot will touch the ground? If a heaven is to come to earth then we should know what to expect and what to work for, no? To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's real name?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If Allahabad University lists him as: Sri M.C. Srivastava (Universally known as Maharishi Mahesh Yogi) and his passport lists him either as Prasad Varma or Bal Brahmachari Mahesh Varma - anyone know his real name or why there is confusion between his passport and his alumni listing? Is he a Varma or a Srivastava? Or am I not understanding Indian names properly? JohnY A passage from my biography of MMY (or MPV or MCS) Quite why Mahesh is known by two names, Mahesh Prasad Varma and M C Srivastava, is difficult to establish. But, maybe the rumour is correct which suggests that Mahesh left his family home early in life and, since he appears to have maintained close links with both his Uncle Raj R P Varma and Raj's son Girish Chandra Varma, it might be speculated that it was with their family that he spent some of his childhood, perhaps temporarily assuming the family name? (Have and enjoyed your book), Paul: Wouldn't it be unusual to 'temporarly' assume a family name ? JohnY I'm glad you enjoyed the book which is now revised. It is said that MMY's eldest brother's name is J P Srivastava, and allegedly fell out with him. If he was living with Raj Varma's family (his maternal uncle?), it might have been convenient to allow himself to be called by the family name. (Interestingly, it is also said that he later explained that he 'did not resist it when he was called Maharshi'. So perhaps he treads the path of least resistence.) Perhaps someone will research this a little more closely, a good place to start would be his alleged birthplace, the village of Chichli, near Gadawara in Madhya Pradesh, some 150 kilometres east of Bhopal. (Chichli, 22.83°N 78.82°E) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] MMY's uncle Pundit Dubey
on 6/1/05 5:27 AM, claudiouk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: re Dr. Raj R. P. Varma - apparently is the author of Strange Facts About A Great Saint: His Divinity Swami Brahmanand Saraswati Maharaj, Jagad Guru Shankaracharya of Jyotirmath, Badarikashram, Himalyas an extract of which appears in: http://www.vidyafoundation.com/Public/Home/UnderstandingYagya/KindsofY agyas/GuruDevonPersonalDeities/index.cfm which is the site of Vidya Foundation - started by Pundit Dubey (ex teacher of Pundits and Special Consultant on the subjects of Jyotish and Yagya to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi). Still associated with MMY? No. Eric Ashelman and Katherine Serenduc organize his yagyas. They're here in Fairfield. More associated with Amma than anything I suppose, but still appreciative of Maharishi. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: many thousands initiated in India?
on 6/1/05 8:53 AM, marekreavis at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick, did that ATR start in Dec. '72 and Maharishi came for the last 2 weeks or so? Do you remember more of the analogy? Yes. I think the point of the analogy was that just as a screw bores deep into something, TM enables the mind to go deep within. The funny thing was that he kept saying it over and over again, TM is just like screwing. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What is Heaven on Earth?
I mean, think about the people who talk about Heaven alot. Would *you* want to be stuck with them for eternityin the kind of place they'd consider Heaven? :-)Unc---For me personally Heaven on Earth isthe pure land of perceptioncomprised of the trikaya as the svabhavakakaya. But that's not Heaven on earth for others. For me there simply cannot be heaven on earth for all as similar to the politics of spiritual beliefthread nobody can mandate and force another in what to perceive. At best, those who share a view or concept can kill all others and hope that their view doesn't change along the way. Then they can have their cake and eat it too. Otherwise, there will always be dissention. This is the view of the Bible basically. Or so many believe. I'm not sure that it's the view of any other group on Earth. I guess I am wondering what the Movement context for Heaven on Earth would be? We would all be high ranking Mary Kay salespeople giving darshan with our products, motivating others to start at the bottomof the pyramid scheme of meditational samadhi? Or what? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Politics of Spiritual Belief
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/1/05 4:15 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you knew of a spiritual practice that you were *certain* produced beneficial effects to all who practice it, and produced equally beneficial effects for the world as a whole, and you had the ability to legislate the practice and force everyone to do it, would it be ethical to do so; that is, would such an approach be in accord with the dharma? You can't force people to do a spiritual practice. Even if it is theoretically beneficial for all, it won't be beneficial for someone forced to practice it. And any of us who have been involved in third world TMO projects quickly came to realize that once the monetary/food/educational or other incentives that people in these countries got to meditate stopped (which they always did), 99% of the people who began to meditate stopped. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Politics of Spiritual Belief
on 6/1/05 10:22 AM, scienceofabundance at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And any of us who have been involved in third world TMO projects quickly came to realize that once the monetary/food/educational or other incentives that people in these countries got to meditate stopped (which they always did), 99% of the people who began to meditate stopped. In the Philippines TM was pretty much forced upon some school classes. Some of the kids were very upset. Angry and tearful. Some stopped coming to school as long as we were there. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: many thousands initiated in India?
Rick, did that ATR start in Dec. '72 and Maharishi came for the last 2 weeks or so? Do you remember more of the analogy? Yes. I think the point of the analogy was that just as a screw bores deep into something, TM enables the mind to go deep within. The funny thing was that he kept saying it over and over again, TM is just like screwing. Ah. I finally get the snickers and suppressed laughter. But the analogy seems to be a little forced given TM. What is the screwdriver, and who is turning it? :-) Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: What is Heaven on Earth?
Unc: I mean, think about the people who talk about Heaven a lot. Would *you* want to be stuck with them for eternity in the kind of place they'd consider Heaven? :-) Llundrub: ---For me personally Heaven on Earth is the pure land of perception comprised of the trikaya as the svabhavakakaya. But that's not Heaven on earth for others. For me there simply cannot be heaven on earth for all as similar to the politics of spiritual belief thread nobody can mandate and force another in what to perceive. Funny you should mention Pure Land. I was just looking at one of the Tibetan tsakli I own. It's a Pure Land vision, as viewed by some 18th century monk: http://www.ramalila.net/RoadTripMind/tsaklis/pureland.jpg Be sure to look in all of the windows. One of the lamas has kids, another is getting laid. Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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[FairfieldLife] Re: What is Heaven on Earth?
Uncle wrote: I mean, think about the people who talk about Heaven a lot. In fact, Uncle, millions of Buddhists worship and pay respect to all kinds of heavenly and celestial entities such as Manjusri, Avolikiteisvara and the Goddess Tara, both White, Green, and Gold. In Nepal, most Buddhists worship Bhairava, the Tantric Goddess of fecundity. Would *you* want to be stuck with them for eternity in the kind of place they'd consider Heaven? :-) Traditionally Buddhists throughout the Buddhist world consider that the universe contains more beings in it than are normally visible to humans. Buddhists have no objection to the existence of the Hindu Gods or Heavens of the Gods. Nevertheless, Buddhists can't take refuge in them because the Hindu Gods are not Buddhas; that is, the Gods are not enlightened. According to Buddhist teaching, all the Hindu Gods, for all their power, do not dwell in heaven for eternity. But none of this entails that the Gods don' exist or that the Gods cannot excert a powerful influence over our lives. Thus, the Buddhist has no problem with the Gods, Sir. References: Buddhist Thought by Paul Williams Routledge, 2000 Buddhism in Practice ed. Donald S. Lopez, Jr. Princeton Readings in Religion, 1995 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: What is Heaven on Earth?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But none of this entails that the Gods don' exist or that the Gods cannot excert a powerful influence over our lives. Thus, the Buddhist has no problem with the Gods, Sir. Did I ever suggest otherwise, Willy? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Politics of Spiritual Belief
sounds like 'the pledge of allegiance' to me. Think how powerful the repitition of that 'mantra' is in fostering unthinking nationalism. So to have a more beneficial mantra mandated instead? I'm all for it. However I am sure the practical obstacles to instituting such a thing would render it impossible in the West. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a question that came up first on another forum of which I am a member. The responses were interesting, and members have since posted it on a number of other forums -- Christian, Buddhist, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, atheist, Native American -- in which the responses were equally interesting and even more varied. So I'm posting it here to see what the responses might be on this primarily TM-centered forum. I think we all know what Maharishi's answer would be to the question; he has made it clear many times in the past. I'm just curious to know what individual people here think. The original question, posed by a Tibetan Buddhist monk, was: If you knew of a spiritual practice that you were *certain* produced beneficial effects to all who practice it, and produced equally beneficial effects for the world as a whole, and you had the ability to legislate the practice and force everyone to do it, would it be ethical to do so; that is, would such an approach be in accord with the dharma? Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Wouldja bija (was Re: Digest Number 2905) Where from?
Uncle wrote: and Buddhists describe emptiness or formlessness. The vast majority of Buddhists would agree that the Buddha has a form, Manjushri, Avolikiteisvara, Tara, etc., etc. Are you suggesting that Buddha is formless? Confusion arises from erroneously identifying words, objects, and ideas with one another; knowledge of the cries of all creatures comes through perfect discipline of the distinctions between them Y.S. 3.17 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: What is Heaven on Earth?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This term is thrown about like dice. It seems to be a big motivator. I am curious what it means. Heaven on Earth seems the catch-all phrase for many religious and New Agey types, just as fighting terrorism is the catch-all phrase for the government for doing whatever it wants to do. So is there a heaven at all? Is it the same for everybody? Who gets a piece? If Earth is red and Heaven is blue then will Heaven on earth be Purple? Or will it be as Maharishi has made us think, that no sidha foot will touch the ground? If a heaven is to come to earth then we should know what to expect and what to work for, no? Perhaps Heaven on Earth is not to be seen as a time when heavenly conditions exist as much as it refers to how life becomes more heavenly when a veil of ignorance is lifted and the true nature of life is lived on a 24 hour basis. I had an afternoon of bliss consciousness once where everything I could see seemed to be emanating waves of love. Everything was pulsing with this blissfulness and I was astounded at how blind I had been not to be able to see this before. Then slowly my thoughts began to encroach on this clear vision until once again all I could see was me. More often then not that blissful state is just a memory but ever since then I have felt that Heaven on Earth depends only on an opening of awareness to that underlying reality. I suppose that if everyone were living that reality inside, then outside, things would quickly begin to reflect that. Rick Carlstrom To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: What is Heaven on Earth?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unc: I mean, think about the people who talk about Heaven a lot. Would *you* want to be stuck with them for eternity in the kind of place they'd consider Heaven? :-) Llundrub: ---For me personally Heaven on Earth is the pure land of perception comprised of the trikaya as the svabhavakakaya. But that's not Heaven on earth for others. For me there simply cannot be heaven on earth for all as similar to the politics of spiritual belief thread nobody can mandate and force another in what to perceive. Funny you should mention Pure Land. I was just looking at one of the Tibetan tsakli I own. It's a Pure Land vision, as viewed by some 18th century monk: http://www.ramalila.net/RoadTripMind/tsaklis/pureland.jpg Be sure to look in all of the windows. One of the lamas has kids, another is getting laid. Hey, that's funny, it doesn't look a whole lot different than what we think of as life. Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: What is Heaven on Earth?
But none of this entails that the Gods don' exist or that the Gods cannot excert a powerful influence over our lives. Thus, the Buddhist has no problem with the Gods, Sir. Uncle: Did I ever suggest otherwise, Willy? D'oh! Yes, on numerous occasions you've defined Buddhists as athiests. Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental From: Uncle Tantra Date: 18 Jan 2005 Subject: Re: Sree Lalitha Sahasra Namam Does it offend you when a Buddhist mentions a core belief of Buddhism; that is, not believing in a sentient God? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi's real name?
on 6/1/05 1:51 AM, jyouells2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If Allahabad University lists him as: Sri M.C. Srivastava (Universally known as Maharishi Mahesh Yogi) and his passport lists him either as Prasad Varma or Bal Brahmachari Mahesh Varma - anyone know his real name or why there is confusion between his passport and his alumni listing? Is he a Varma or a Srivastava? Or am I not understanding Indian names properly? Shannon Dickson said: His passport says Mahesh Varma born Jan 12, 1917 (at least the one in 1972 did) His latest one probably says His Royal Highness Supreme Commander of the Universe :-)! Shannon To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: John Bolton's Nomination/Secret Downing St, Memos...'
Uncle: Looks pretty fathomable to me... Oh! My God - you mean someone might actually tell the United Nations that it needs to reform itself! Heaven forbid. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What is Heaven on Earth?
http://www.ramalila.net/RoadTripMind/tsaklis/pureland.jpgBe sure to look in all of the windows. One of the lamashas kids, another is getting laid. UncMy kind of pure land!To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Politics of Spiritual Belief
I'd be worried that Tony Blair would learn this. --- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a question that came up first on another forum of which I am a member. The responses were interesting, and members have since posted it on a number of other forums -- Christian, Buddhist, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, atheist, Native American -- in which the responses were equally interesting and even more varied. So I'm posting it here to see what the responses might be on this primarily TM-centered forum. I think we all know what Maharishi's answer would be to the question; he has made it clear many times in the past. I'm just curious to know what individual people here think. The original question, posed by a Tibetan Buddhist monk, was: If you knew of a spiritual practice that you were *certain* produced beneficial effects to all who practice it, and produced equally beneficial effects for the world as a whole, and you had the ability to legislate the practice and force everyone to do it, would it be ethical to do so; that is, would such an approach be in accord with the dharma? Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Discover Yahoo! Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/stayintouch.html To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Politics of Spiritual Belief
Uncle: ...would such an approach be in accord with the dharma? I would say yes, Uncle. The term dharma means natural law or causation. It is analogous to the Darwinian theory of natural selection, with one key difference: Darwin's concept focuses on the physical evolution of species; karma or volition, focuses on both the physical and the spiritual progress of individual beings, who evolve throughout an infinite but continuous process of physical lifetimes. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: John Bolton's Nomination/Secret Downing St, Memos...'
not a bad idea if the one telling them is putting themselves up for the same review and subsequent introspection. The trouble with a guy like Bolton (and many in the current administration) is they see themselves as infallible. This has led to a rigidity of thinking which has caused a consequent rigidity in foreign policy, with disastrous results. So the usa may be 'right' but many now hate us, so where is the progress? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uncle: Looks pretty fathomable to me... Oh! My God - you mean someone might actually tell the United Nations that it needs to reform itself! Heaven forbid. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Next Meditator Residence Course, Fairfield
Dear Meditators, The Fairfield Peace Palace is pleased to announce that the next Meditator Residence Course will be held on the weekend of June 10th ? 12th, 2005. The course begins Friday evening and ends after lunch on Sunday. Meditator Residence Courses are designed to give you a giant step forward in the development of higher states of consciousness. This long weekend course will refresh your mind and body and prepare you to return to daily activity with greater effectiveness and inner bliss. Led by experienced teachers of the Transcendental Meditation? technique, this course in Fairfield offers extended practice of the Transcendental Meditation program, group meditations, discussions about experiences of the Transcendental Meditation technique, and videotaped presentations by Maharishi on his Vedic ScienceSM. We will be discussing Maharishi?s latest goals and continuing with the theme of ?The Arrival of Sat Yuga: Enlightenment and Invincibility?. The beautiful Sthapatya Ved architecture and large meditating populations of Fairfield and neighboring Vedic City provide an environment conducive to deep rest and gaining clearer experiences of Transcendental Consciousness. The cost of the course will be $195., which includes housing and freshly prepared organic meals. To apply for the course or for additional information, please call 641-470-1569 during day or evening hours. We look forward to having you join us. Jai Guru Dev, The Fairfield Peace Palace Staff *** DOME ANNOUNCEMENTS is a moderated list that distributes announcements to the Maharishi University of Management community. Send your announcements to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Encourage your friends to sign up for DOME ANNOUNCEMENTS. Send an e-mail message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and put the word subscribe (without the quotation marks) in the body of the message. To stop receiving DOME ANNOUNCEMENTS, send an e-mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type the word unsubscribe (without the quotation marks) in the body of the message. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Wouldja bija (was Re: Digest Number 2905) Where from?
Uncle wrote: and Buddhists describe emptiness or formlessness. The vast majority of Buddhists would agree that the Buddha has a form, Manjushri, Avolikiteisvara, Tara, etc., etc. Are you suggesting that Buddha is formless? Confusion arises from erroneously identifying words, objects, and ideas with one another; knowledge of the cries of all creatures comes through perfect discipline of the distinctions between them Y.S. 3.17 I am suggesting, Willboy, that as always you are trying to start an argument based on some stuff you just Googled up for that purpose, and have no interest in *other* than as a mechanism to start an argument. Wouldn't you really rather talk about ZZ Top or something else you actually *like* instead of trying to run your boring olde normal number? I know I certainly would. :-) Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Politics of Spiritual Belief
At Mum and the MSAE it's also forced upon all the students. Sal On Jun 1, 2005, at 10:32 AM, Rick Archer wrote: In the Philippines TM was pretty much forced upon some school classes. Some of the kids were very upset. Angry and tearful. Some stopped coming to school as long as we were there.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's real name?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/1/05 1:51 AM, jyouells2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If Allahabad University lists him as: Sri M.C. Srivastava (Universally known as Maharishi Mahesh Yogi) and his passport lists him either as Prasad Varma or Bal Brahmachari Mahesh Varma - anyone know his real name or why there is confusion between his passport and his alumni listing? Is he a Varma or a Srivastava? Or am I not understanding Indian names properly? Shannon Dickson said: His passport says Mahesh Varma born Jan 12, 1917 (at least the one in 1972 did) His latest one probably says His Royal Highness Supreme Commander of the Universe :-)! Shannon thank you, Rick. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: What is Heaven on Earth?
Funny you should mention Pure Land. I was just looking at one of the Tibetan tsakli I own. It's a Pure Land vision, as viewed by some 18th century monk: http://www.ramalila.net/RoadTripMind/tsaklis/pureland.jpg Be sure to look in all of the windows. One of the lamas has kids, another is getting laid. Hey, that's funny, it doesn't look a whole lot different than what we think of as life. Exactly. As you described in the previous post, you had a great afternoon once that you can still assoc- iate with heaven on earth. But did the earth change? Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: John Bolton's Nomination/Secret Downing St, Memos...'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uncle: Looks pretty fathomable to me... Oh! My God - you mean someone might actually tell the United Nations that it needs to reform itself! Heaven forbid. ;-) All those suitcases full of cash (or oil vouchers) might stop flowing. JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: What is Heaven on Earth?
http://www.ramalila.net/RoadTripMind/tsaklis/pureland.jpg Be sure to look in all of the windows. One of the lamas has kids, another is getting laid. My kind of pure land! Mine, too. :-) That's why I bought that particular tsakli and why it holds a place of honor in my collection of them; it cost more than all of the others combined, but was worth it because it makes me smile every time I see it. Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Next Meditator Residence Course, Fairfield
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Meditators, The Fairfield Peace Palace is pleased to announce that the next Meditator Residence Course will be held on the weekend of June 10th ? 12th, 2005. The course begins Friday evening and ends after lunch on Sunday. Meditator Residence Courses are designed to give you a giant step forward in the development of higher states of consciousness. This long weekend course will refresh your mind and body and prepare you to return to daily activity with greater effectiveness and inner bliss. Led by experienced teachers of the Transcendental Meditation? technique, this course in Fairfield offers extended practice of the Transcendental Meditation program, group meditations, discussions about experiences of the The question is: Will the course be led by Officially Recertified Teachers of Trancendental Meditation? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: John Bolton's Nomination/Secret Downing St, Memos...'
Hi John, Notice how that story about oil vouchers has quieted down? The last I heard of it was that when an investigation of the oil vouchers began in earnest, it was found that the vast majority had gone to usa corporations!! ...shut the news feed down, place head back in sand, please... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uncle: Looks pretty fathomable to me... Oh! My God - you mean someone might actually tell the United Nations that it needs to reform itself! Heaven forbid. ;-) All those suitcases full of cash (or oil vouchers) might stop flowing. JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Next Meditator Residence Course, Fairfield
on 6/1/05 12:45 PM, jyouells2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The question is: Will the course be led by Officially Recertified Teachers of Trancendental Meditation? Undoubtedly. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Politics of Spiritual Belief
on the other hand, in Thailand most young men spend a period as monks before marriage, as this is the cultural expectation. So it probably has more to do with the expectations of the culture on how well these practices are adopted/accepted, than what a particular practice consists of. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At Mum and the MSAE it's also forced upon all the students. Sal On Jun 1, 2005, at 10:32 AM, Rick Archer wrote: In the Philippines TM was pretty much forced upon some school classes. Some of the kids were very upset. Angry and tearful. Some stopped coming to school as long as we were there. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Angels
I read this account several years ago. A mother with a five year old boy rolled her van one evening off the road and down a cliff. The mother was knocked unconscious. The little boy got out and saw another small boy with a puppy. This other boy said he knew a cave where they could spend the night. Early next morning he showed the little boy a route up the cliff and vanished. A passing truck stopped when he saw a kid at the side of the road in the middle of nowhere, heard his story and got hold of an ambulance. They said it was too dangerous to climb down the cliff and called in mountain experts who descended with ropes. They got the mother up. She recovered. The climbers said they did not know how a small boy had climbed up such a steep cliff. The account offered no comment or explanation. My own was is that the boy with a puppy was an angel, maybe two and had assumed a form ideal to reassure another scared small boy who would respond well both to a kid and a puppy. I cry every time I tell this story. Love, David To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: What is Heaven on Earth?
in similar experiences I have had, yes it did. In other words, my radiant experience of the day had just as much effect on the earth as did a bad day someone else was having. The earth (as an integral part of the universe) is always perfect; absolute perfection, in that the laws of nature don't change whether we live in heaven or hell or somewhere in between. Same basic principles apply. However, to *establish* heaven on earth, it just means more people on earth have to net out good days rather then bad. It won't be any more perfect, but it will be a nicer, more enjoyable, richer, more creative place to live. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Exactly. As you described in the previous post, you had a great afternoon once that you can still assoc- iate with heaven on earth. But did the earth change? Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Angels
Thanks, David. I was just thinking about you this morning and wondering if you were following FFL and when you might post next. I'll forward this story to one of my lists. See you in Toronto this summer? on 6/1/05 12:53 PM, David Fiske at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I read this account several years ago. A mother with a five year old boy rolled her van one evening off the road and down a cliff. The mother was knocked unconscious. The little boy got out and saw another small boy with a puppy. This other boy said he knew a cave where they could spend the night. Early next morning he showed the little boy a route up the cliff and vanished. A passing truck stopped when he saw a kid at the side of the road in the middle of nowhere, heard his story and got hold of an ambulance. They said it was too dangerous to climb down the cliff and called in mountain experts who descended with ropes. They got the mother up. She recovered. The climbers said they did not know how a small boy had climbed up such a steep cliff. The account offered no comment or explanation. My own was is that the boy with a puppy was an angel, maybe two and had assumed a form ideal to reassure another scared small boy who would respond well both to a kid and a puppy. I cry every time I tell this story. Love, David To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links -- Rick Archer SearchSummit 1108 South B Street Fairfield, IA 52556 Phone: 641-472-9336 Fax: 815-472-5842 http://searchsummit.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Next Meditator Residence Course, Fairfield
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/1/05 12:45 PM, jyouells2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The question is: Will the course be led by Officially Recertified Teachers of Trancendental Meditation? Undoubtedly. Just an attempt a humor over a sad situation. ;) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: John Bolton's Nomination/Secret Downing St, Memos...'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi John, Notice how that story about oil vouchers has quieted down? The last I heard of it was that when an investigation of the oil vouchers began in earnest, it was found that the vast majority had gone to usa corporations!! ...shut the news feed down, place head back in sand, please... I haven't followed it in detail, but I was more interested in how the vouchers were used to influence the French vote in the UN. JohnY --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uncle: Looks pretty fathomable to me... Oh! My God - you mean someone might actually tell the United Nations that it needs to reform itself! Heaven forbid. ;-) All those suitcases full of cash (or oil vouchers) might stop flowing. JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: John Bolton's Nomination/Secret Downing St, Memos...'
Hi John, Notice how that story about oil vouchers has quieted down? The last I heard of it was that when an investigation of the oil vouchers began in earnest, it was found that the vast majority had gone to usa corporations!! ...shut the news feed down, place head back in sand, please... I haven't followed it in detail, but I was more interested in how the vouchers were used to influence the French vote in the UN. The problem with the French, from a Bushite point of view, is that they'll accept your bribes and then go ahead and vote their conscience anyway. :-) Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: John Bolton's Nomination/Secret Downing St, Memos...'
I don't know all of the details, but the stands for or against the war from all nations have been based on perceived economic benefit. I found it very curious how some countries like Italy for example have switched opinions back and forth like a metronome. I can almost see the bribes from the usa in transit as one country or another seeks to 'make up its mind' about a troop committment, joining the coalition of the willing (to be paid off...). Very 'old school', all of it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi John, Notice how that story about oil vouchers has quieted down? The last I heard of it was that when an investigation of the oil vouchers began in earnest, it was found that the vast majority had gone to usa corporations!! ...shut the news feed down, place head back in sand, please... I haven't followed it in detail, but I was more interested in how the vouchers were used to influence the French vote in the UN. JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] You may be brainwashed by corporate media if you:
... believe the 5 corporations who own almost all of the media in the U.S. are liberal. ... believe $300 billion of U.S. tax money, allocated for the war and reconstruction in Iraq is actually going to Iraq . ... are unaware Iraq had 650 million barrels of oil in reserve just before the war in Iraq . ... are unaware at least $8.8 billion is known to be missing in Iraqi oil revenue from the period the U.S. was in control of Iraq . ... are unaware 198 million in Iraqi dollars is missing from the Iraq treasury from the period the U.S. was in control of Iraq . ... are unaware that war is exceptionally profitable for a small number of investors. ... believe Halliburton's no-bid contracts have nothing to do with former CEO, now Vice President Dick Cheney. ... are unaware that the Iraq war is the biggest case of war profiteering in human history. ... believe Saddam Hussein or Iraq had anything to do with 9/11, Al Qaeda or Osama bin Laden. ... are unaware the U.S. has killed more than 10,000 innocent women and children in Iraq with cluster bombs and depleted uranium munitions. ... believe depleted uranium weapons are not radioactive or deadly weapons of mass destruction (they are 12% less radioactive than nuclear weapons grade uranium and very deadly). ... believe wealthy, warmongers can also be true Christians. ... are unaware stem cell research threatens the pharmaceutical industry by curing and preventing diseases which drug companies profit from by treating with drugs. ... are unaware the pharmaceutical industry is based entirely on treatment and is threatened by cures and prevention. ... are unaware the Food and Drug Administration does NO testing of food or drugs. They only set guidelines and review the testing corporations do of their own products. ... are unaware the Medicare Prescription Drug and Modernization Act has been 're- estimated' to cost U.S. taxpayers $1.3 Trillion (not the original $243 billion or the 'adjusted' $400 billion), and only pharmaceutical corporations and HMOs benefit from the increase. ... are unaware the Boston Tea party was a protest against corporate corruption (East India Company). ... are unaware our founding fathers intentionally made sure that corporations had no power over people or our government. ... are unaware corporations have fought aggressively and systematically over the past 200 years to increase their power and influence over our government. ... are unaware U.S. corporations are now protected under the 14th amendment as a legal 'person.' ... are unaware the definition of fascism is: 'The marriage of corporation and state' -- Benito Mussolini. ... are unaware well known U.S. corporate interests attempted a military coup against Franklin Roosevelt in 1933. ... are unaware most corrupt and wasteful government projects are run primarily by corporate contractors. ... are unaware 'less government' means paying corporate contractors three times what we pay government workers to do the same work. ... are unaware American corporations behave very differently in other countries. ... are unaware Enron and others were NOT investigated until they collapsed under the weight of their own greed. ... are unaware Bush's massive tax cuts were invested overseas to build sweat shops, factories and other facilities, where our jobs have been outsourced. ... are unaware outsourcing American jobs weakens labor unions and keeps wages low and corporate profits high . ... are unaware weak enforcement of immigration laws lowers wages in the U.S. and increases corporate profits. ... are unaware 'Free Trade' means 'Slave Wages' to poor people in Honduras, Bangladesh, China, Malaysia, Burma, Cambodia, Dominican Republic, Colombia, Philippines, Thailand, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Indonesia, Nepal, El Salvador, Guatemala, Burma, Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam and others. ... believe America is hated all over the world because of our freedom. ... believe the massive U.S. national debt (now $7,786,000,000,000) created by Republican presidents Reagan, Bush and Bush does not seriously threaten the future of our children and grandchildren. ... are unaware massive national debt ensures the expansion of poverty, which keeps wages low, which increases corporate profits. ... are unaware widespread poverty keeps wages low and corporate profits high. ... are unaware weak gun control laws perpetuate violence in poor neighborhoods which expands poverty, reduces wages and increases corporate profits. ... are unaware abortions go down only when we reduce poverty, expand healthcare and improve education. ... are unaware that making abortion illegal expands poverty which reduces wages and increases corporate profits. ... believe the Michael Jackson trial deserved more news coverage than the genocide of 400,000 people in Darfur , Sudan. ... believe Social Security
Re: [FairfieldLife] Angels
A friend's response to your post: I know a guy that was in a car accident and had a similar experience. he fell asleep driving home from work late at night. he awoke as his car was crossing the median on the interstate. luckily, there was a guard rail that stopped him from crossing over into on-coming traffic, but he hit the guard rail hard. he survived the accident because at the moment of impact the large hand of an angel reached into the car and gently pushed his entire body over the console and into the passenger's seat. he watched in slow motion as the driver's side of the car was destroyed in front of his eye's. the funny thing is, he's one of the most despicable people I've ever known. it just goes to show God loves everyone in spite of who we are or what we do. all is forgiven with unconditional love. on 6/1/05 12:53 PM, David Fiske at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I read this account several years ago. A mother with a five year old boy rolled her van one evening off the road and down a cliff. The mother was knocked unconscious. The little boy got out and saw another small boy with a puppy. This other boy said he knew a cave where they could spend the night. Early next morning he showed the little boy a route up the cliff and vanished. A passing truck stopped when he saw a kid at the side of the road in the middle of nowhere, heard his story and got hold of an ambulance. They said it was too dangerous to climb down the cliff and called in mountain experts who descended with ropes. They got the mother up. She recovered. The climbers said they did not know how a small boy had climbed up such a steep cliff. The account offered no comment or explanation. My own was is that the boy with a puppy was an angel, maybe two and had assumed a form ideal to reassure another scared small boy who would respond well both to a kid and a puppy. I cry every time I tell this story. Love, David To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Politics of Spiritual Belief
As a believer in the unfathomable importance of Free Will I would say no way!. TurquoiseB wrote: snip The original question, posed by a Tibetan Buddhist monk, was: If you knew of a spiritual practice that you were *certain* produced beneficial effects to all who practice it, and produced equally beneficial effects for the world as a whole, and you had the ability to legislate the practice and force everyone to do it, would it be ethical to do so; that is, would such an approach be in accord with the dharma? Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] You may be brainwashed by corporate media if you:
Question: does your spiritual practice help you see things as they really are? On Jun 1, 2005, at 2:24 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: ... believe the 5 corporations who own almost all of the media in the U.S. are liberal. ... believe $300 billion of U.S. tax money, allocated for the war and reconstruction in Iraq is actually going to Iraq . ... are unaware Iraq had 650 million barrels of oil in reserve just before the war in Iraq . ... are unaware at least $8.8 billion is known to be missing in Iraqi oil revenue from the period the U.S. was in control of Iraq . ... are unaware 198 million in Iraqi dollars is missing from the Iraq treasury from the period the U.S. was in control of Iraq . ... are unaware that war is exceptionally profitable for a small number of investors. ... believe Halliburton's no-bid contracts have nothing to do with former CEO, now Vice President Dick Cheney. ... are unaware that the Iraq war is the biggest case of war profiteering in human history. ... believe Saddam Hussein or Iraq had anything to do with 9/11, Al Qaeda or Osama bin Laden. ... are unaware the U.S. has killed more than 10,000 innocent women and children in Iraq with cluster bombs and depleted uranium munitions. ... believe depleted uranium weapons are not radioactive or deadly weapons of mass destruction (they are 12% less radioactive than nuclear weapons grade uranium and very deadly). ... believe wealthy, warmongers can also be true Christians. ... are unaware stem cell research threatens the pharmaceutical industry by curing and preventing diseases which drug companies profit from by treating with drugs. ... are unaware the pharmaceutical industry is based entirely on treatment and is threatened by cures and prevention. ... are unaware the Food and Drug Administration does NO testing of food or drugs. They only set guidelines and review the testing corporations do of their own products. ... are unaware the Medicare Prescription Drug and Modernization Act has been 're- estimated' to cost U.S. taxpayers $1.3 Trillion (not the original $243 billion or the 'adjusted' $400 billion), and only pharmaceutical corporations and HMOs benefit from the increase. ... are unaware the Boston Tea party was a protest against corporate corruption (East India Company). ... are unaware our founding fathers intentionally made sure that corporations had no power over people or our government. ... are unaware corporations have fought aggressively and systematically over the past 200 years to increase their power and influence over our government. ... are unaware U.S. corporations are now protected under the 14th amendment as a legal 'person.' ... are unaware the definition of fascism is: 'The marriage of corporation and state' -- Benito Mussolini. ... are unaware well known U.S. corporate interests attempted a military coup against Franklin Roosevelt in 1933. ... are unaware most corrupt and wasteful government projects are run primarily by corporate contractors. ... are unaware 'less government' means paying corporate contractors three times what we pay government workers to do the same work. ... are unaware American corporations behave very differently in other countries. ... are unaware Enron and others were NOT investigated until they collapsed under the weight of their own greed. ... are unaware Bush's massive tax cuts were invested overseas to build sweat shops, factories and other facilities, where our jobs have been outsourced. ... are unaware outsourcing American jobs weakens labor unions and keeps wages low and corporate profits high . ... are unaware weak enforcement of immigration laws lowers wages in the U.S. and increases corporate profits. ... are unaware 'Free Trade' means 'Slave Wages' to poor people in Honduras, Bangladesh, China, Malaysia, Burma, Cambodia, Dominican Republic, Colombia, Philippines, Thailand, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Indonesia, Nepal, El Salvador, Guatemala, Burma, Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam and others. ... believe America is hated all over the world because of our freedom. ... believe the massive U.S. national debt (now $7,786,000,000,000) created by Republican presidents Reagan, Bush and Bush does not seriously threaten the future of our children and grandchildren. ... are unaware massive national debt ensures the expansion of poverty, which keeps wages low, which increases corporate profits. ... are unaware widespread poverty keeps wages low and corporate profits high. ... are unaware weak gun control laws perpetuate violence in poor neighborhoods which expands poverty, reduces wages and increases corporate profits. ... are unaware abortions go down only when we reduce poverty, expand healthcare and improve education. ... are unaware that making abortion illegal expands poverty which reduces wages and increases corporate profits. ... believe the Michael
[FairfieldLife] Re: You may be brainwashed by corporate media if you:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Question: does your spiritual practice help you see things as they really are? Honestly, I don't know. You? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: What is Heaven on Earth?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This term is thrown about like dice. It seems to be a big motivator. I am curious what it means. Heaven on Earth seems the catch-all phrase for many religious and New Agey types, just as fighting terrorism is the catch-all phrase for the government for doing whatever it wants to do. So is there a heaven at all? Is it the same for everybody? Who gets a piece? If Earth is red and Heaven is blue then will Heaven on earth be Purple? Or will it be as Maharishi has made us think, that no sidha foot will touch the ground? If a heaven is to come to earth then we should know what to expect and what to work for, no? Perhaps Heaven on Earth is not to be seen as a time when heavenly conditions exist as much as it refers to how life becomes more heavenly when a veil of ignorance is lifted and the true nature of life is lived on a 24 hour basis. I had an afternoon of bliss consciousness once where everything I could see seemed to be emanating waves of love. Everything was pulsing with this blissfulness and I was astounded at how blind I had been not to be able to see this before. Then slowly my thoughts began to encroach on this clear vision until once again all I could see was me. More often then not that blissful state is just a memory but ever since then I have felt that Heaven on Earth depends only on an opening of awareness to that underlying reality. I suppose that if everyone were living that reality inside, then outside, things would quickly begin to reflect that. Rick Carlstrom What a beautiful post! Heaven on Earth must oviously be experienced differently according to state of mind. Maharishi has affirmed that Heaven will walk on earth - In this generation when pressed on the timeaspect by Jack Uijen. (National leader of Holland) What would that mean ? Gods incarnated, walking here amongst us in this generation ? Maharishi obviously doesn't want at this time to dwell on the details of results of his work as the process to obtain and enhance his goals of global happiness is more pressing.(Though he has indicated that 1000 Siddhas are waiting on the Polar Star for the right time to come to earth.) His work in this regard is certainly beyond any ordinary mans conception. There are others though who are willing to give a glimpse of the infinite possebilities enfolding right now - in full accord with everything Maharishi has said about the subject. Please see: http://www.shareintl.org That is; if you have an open mind :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: You may be brainwashed by corporate media if you:
Vaj: Question: does your spiritual practice help you see things as they really are? Jim: Honestly, I don't know. You? That's one of the best answers to a question I've seen on this forum. Cool. Me, too. I'd say that I've finally gotten over believing that I'm right about anything or see things as they really are, but every time I feel that way the ugly sucker sneaks up and bites me in the butt again, so I won't. :-) I do know I've finally gotten comfortable with trusting my own intuition, whether it has anything to do with Things As They Really Are or not. And after decades of trusting others more than I trusted myself, that's a fairly pleasant place to be. Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What is Heaven on Earth?
on 6/1/05 2:11 PM, lupidus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (Though he has indicated that 1000 Siddhas are waiting on the Polar Star for the right time to come to earth.) When and where and in what context did he say this? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Angels
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, David Fiske [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I read this account several years ago. A mother with a five year old boy rolled her van one evening off the road and down a cliff. The mother was knocked unconscious. The little boy got out and saw another small boy with a puppy. This other boy said he knew a cave where they could spend the night. Early next morning he showed the little boy a route up the cliff and vanished. A passing truck stopped when he saw a kid at the side of the road in the middle of nowhere, heard his story and got hold of an ambulance. They said it was too dangerous to climb down the cliff and called in mountain experts who descended with ropes. They got the mother up. She recovered. The climbers said they did not know how a small boy had climbed up such a steep cliff. The account offered no comment or explanation. My own was is that the boy with a puppy was an angel, maybe two and had assumed a form ideal to reassure another scared small boy who would respond well both to a kid and a puppy. I cry every time I tell this story. Love, David Dear David, Please ask Benjamin Creme for information about the nature of this beautiful story; http://www.shareintl.org To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: You may be brainwashed by corporate media if you:
yeah, Vaj's question is really too big for me to understand. I can operate my mind and body to acquire the things I need and similarly for others. Beyond that, who knows? Like you said, everytime I've trapped myself in a thought form, it dissolves. However I still hold strong opinions about stuff...until I don't. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vaj: Question: does your spiritual practice help you see things as they really are? Me, too. I'd say that I've finally gotten over believing that I'm right about anything or see things as they really are, but every time I feel that way the ugly sucker sneaks up and bites me in the butt again, so I won't. :-) I do know I've finally gotten comfortable with trusting my own intuition, whether it has anything to do with Things As They Really Are or not. And after decades of trusting others more than I trusted myself, that's a fairly pleasant place to be. Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] enthusiastic meditators needed now
. University Seeks to Fill Varied Staff Positions Owing to the usual turnaround, staff becoming students, and newly recertified Governors leaving, the University is currently seeking to fill a variety of skilled and administrative positions. The many opportunities range from administrative assistants and Admissions representatives to Library personnel and a customer service representative in the press. Also needed are people to help on the University farms. As part of a new direction, some positions may be qualified as hourly wage jobs, but most are for those eager to join the Ideal Administrator program and be on campus. The hourly positions will be competitive with other office positions in Fairfield, said Lura Harding of the personnel office. But Ms. Harding feels that the greater opportunity is the Ideal Administrator program in which employees can live in an environment that is supportive of the practice of the Transcendental Meditation® and TM-Sidhi® programs and work with like-minded people enthusiastic about Maharishi's programs. She said that many people join staff in order to learn the TM-Sidhi program. Making a two-and-a-half-year commitment to the University pays the cost. It's awesome being on a staff program designed by Maharishi has changed my life, said Ted Walker, who is office manager for Information Systems and currently taking the TM-Sidhi program. I'm happier than I've ever been, and my desires are getting fulfilled. I feel like I'm among my family all the time. It's totally wonderful every day. Someone who wants to learn the TM-Sidhi program should try it out. Also available are partial tuition scholarships for the Unversity's degree programs, as well as the opportunity to work and go to school at the same time. We look forward to qualified applicants, particularly young people who want to do something very worthwhile with their lives, Ms. Harding said. Other benefits include World Peace Assemblies, the Recreation Center and swimming pool, eligibility for group health insurance, housing, and meals. Call (641) 472-1194 for information. *** REVIEW-L is an electronic newsletter sent out approximately every two weeks during the academic year containing news stories relating to Maharishi University of Management. Those not already subscribed to The Review can receive it via e-mail by sending an e-mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message, type the word subscribe (without the quotation marks). ®Transcendental Meditation, TM-Sidhi, Maharishi Vedic, Maharishi Gandharva Veda, Maharishi Yagya, Maharishi Vedic Science, Maharishi Vedic City, and Maharishi University of Management are registered or common law trademarks licensed to Maharishi Vedic Education Development Corporation and used under sublicense or with permission. *** source: - Original Message - From: The Review Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 10:36 AM Subject: The Review, Vol. 20, #17, June 1, 2005 The Review, Vol. 20, #17, June 1, 2005 Copyright 2005, Maharishi University of Management Headlines http://www.mum.edu/TheReview *** To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What is Heaven on Earth?
And which one? It's a binary star. --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/1/05 2:11 PM, lupidus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (Though he has indicated that 1000 Siddhas are waiting on the Polar Star for the right time to come to earth.) When and where and in what context did he say this? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Discover Yahoo! Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/stayintouch.html To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: John Bolton's Nomination/Secret Downing St, Memos...'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uncle: Looks pretty fathomable to me... Oh! My God - you mean someone might actually tell the United Nations that it needs to reform itself! Heaven forbid. Don't worry Richard; The US economy will collapse and the only hope for the country will be The United Nations. Your worst paranoid nightmare will come true, and it will be a good thing for the americans :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What is Heaven on Earth?
on 6/1/05 2:57 PM, gullible fool at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And which one? It's a binary star. Could habitable planets orbit a binary star? Seems to me their orbits would be too erratic to make climates survivable. But maybe these are subtle sidhas who don't care about gross stuff like weather. --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/1/05 2:11 PM, lupidus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (Though he has indicated that 1000 Siddhas are waiting on the Polar Star for the right time to come to earth.) When and where and in what context did he say this? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] MSNBC Online Poll: Is the U.S. mission in Iraq worth the toll in troop deaths?
apologies in advance folks, I'm just in an anti-war mood currently... Posted: 2005-06-01 00:00 Is the U.S. mission in Iraq worth the toll in troop deaths? * 2730 responses No. 83% Yes. 17% - The National Government will preserve and defend those basic principles on which our nation has been built up. They regard Christianity as the foundation of our national morality and the family as the basis of national life. --Adolf Hitler To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Binary star systems Zeta 1 Zeta 2 Reticuliare
This star system seen from the southern hemispheresare about 37 1/2 light yrs away, 220 trillion miles distant ,( not far by those distances or standards i.e. in out neighborhood ) The Zeta Reticuli system can be read about on the net with regard to UFO activity. A binary star system 3 1?3 light yrs. distant from each other stable suns but 1 million yrs. older. planets in one system could be seen from the other crossing the opposing sun. for excellent reading , factual is the pamphlet by Terence Dickinson entitled The Zeta Reticuli Incident 1976. Presently I believe Stanton Friedman author of crash @ Corona in NB has copies sells them. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Desacralization of Hinduism for Western Consumption
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting critique. I had not known M. had worked in a factory. -V Interesting. I didn't know that he had only allegedly been with his Guru. Being the personal secretary --the guy who answers mail and arranges lectures, isn't a responsibility you give to some off-and-on student. Well, maybe in YOUR world... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Desacralization of Hinduism for Western Consumption
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/31/05 9:47 AM, Ingegerd at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Book Maharishi The Founder of Transcendental Meditation TM - His Life / His Times His Teachings / His Impact Edited by Martin Ebon: says Acquaintances in India allege that he is a native of Uttar Kashi, born October 18, 1911, the son of a local tax official - it further says that After working in a factory, he took up the study of Indian scriptures Ingegerd The book is probably wrong. It's quite certain that he was born near Allahabad in 1917. By his own account, he hadn't finished college yet when he met Guru Dev and he joined Guru Dev's ashram when he graduated. He may have had a summer job in a factory at one point. He was working on his graduate degree IIRC. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Desacralization of Hinduism for Western Consumption
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 31, 2005, at 11:34 AM, Rick Archer wrote: The book is probably wrong. It's quite certain that he was born near Allahabad in 1917. By his own account, he hadn't finished college yet when he met Guru Dev and he joined Guru Dev's ashram when he graduated. He may have had a summer job in a factory at one point. I wonder if the allegation that he didn't graduate till age 31 is true? Master's degree followed by 5 years in a factory? His family was/is a prominant civil service family, I believe. That 5 years would have been in management, if its true. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Desacralization of Hinduism for Western Consumption
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So apparently MMY started college in when he was 20 and joined Guru Dev when he was 23. Or started college when he was 18, got his bachelor's when he was 21 and his Master's when he was 23, then joined Gurudev. *I* always heard he got a Master's degree in PHysics, not a bachelors. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Desacralization of Hinduism for Western Consumption
on 6/1/05 4:31 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/31/05 9:47 AM, Ingegerd at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Book Maharishi The Founder of Transcendental Meditation TM - His Life / His Times His Teachings / His Impact Edited by Martin Ebon: says Acquaintances in India allege that he is a native of Uttar Kashi, born October 18, 1911, the son of a local tax official - it further says that After working in a factory, he took up the study of Indian scriptures Ingegerd The book is probably wrong. It's quite certain that he was born near Allahabad in 1917. By his own account, he hadn't finished college yet when he met Guru Dev and he joined Guru Dev's ashram when he graduated. He may have had a summer job in a factory at one point. He was working on his graduate degree IIRC. I think he only got an undergraduate degree. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO ishta mantras in India
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone named Martin. A person named Trinity answered verifying that this was the case. So much for the meaningless sound lie sigh! On May 31, 2005, at 8:14 PM, shukra69 wrote: I don't find any such post in Alt.meditation.transcendental who posted it? Um, so sock-puppets prove that something is true. The only way you'd have this being the case would be if Indian TM teachers were on a different course than non-Indians. Is THISthe case? A little common sense goes a long way... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditate for a Fee or for Free
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shanti2218411 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No mirror, no dust... No body,no enlightment. How would YOU know? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Desacralization of Hinduism for Western Consumption
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Swami Truthananda Ah, well that proves its valid, then... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 31, 2005, at 3:14 PM, Peter Sutphen wrote: Don and I my sit at times on the opposite sides of the gusher/basher fence, but we're on the same side regarding this article. It's just dripping with sacasm and spite. Pissy piece of yellow journalism. The only thing he left out was how MMY used to steal from widows and push small children down as a child. This may represent an Opus Dei piece by a Hindu-turned-Catholic and is designed to steer Christians away from Hindu meditative movements. That's the feeling I got from the article. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Politics of Spiritual Belief
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a question that came up first on another forum of which I am a member. The responses were interesting, and members have since posted it on a number of other forums -- Christian, Buddhist, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, atheist, Native American -- in which the responses were equally interesting and even more varied. So I'm posting it here to see what the responses might be on this primarily TM-centered forum. I think we all know what Maharishi's answer would be to the question; he has made it clear many times in the past. I'm just curious to know what individual people here think. The original question, posed by a Tibetan Buddhist monk, was: If you knew of a spiritual practice that you were *certain* produced beneficial effects to all who practice it, and produced equally beneficial effects for the world as a whole, and you had the ability to legislate the practice and force everyone to do it, would it be ethical to do so; that is, would such an approach be in accord with the dharma? You would tell everyone you could about it, and ensure that it would be available to as many people as possible. As for requiring everyone to do it... Its not possible to require people to practice TM, even if they sit still for 20 minutes. What practice IS it possible to force people to do? Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Politics of Spiritual Belief
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip If you knew of a spiritual practice that you were *certain* produced beneficial effects to all who practice it, and produced equally beneficial effects for the world as a whole, and you had the ability to legislate the practice and force everyone to do it, would it be ethical to do so; that is, would such an approach be in accord with the dharma? Unc I see this as a non-dilemma. You're assuming, in your proposition, such a teaching/technique exists and such an assumption is false. It is the belief that a teaching is universally beneficial to all people that creates the horrible religious conflicts and spiritual elitism that have always wracked the world. the only way to know if a spiritual practice is beneficial to you is to practice it for some time and see what happens. even if you're certain that the practice is beneficial for all, you can't force people to do it. They can always sit there with their eyes closed and ignore you for 20 minutes. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Politics of Spiritual Belief
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a question that came up first on another forum of which I am a member. The responses were interesting, and members have since posted it on a number of other forums -- Christian, Buddhist, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, atheist, Native American -- in which the responses were equally interesting and even more varied. So I'm posting it here to see what the responses might be on this primarily TM-centered forum. I think we all know what Maharishi's answer would be to the question; he has made it clear many times in the past. I'm just curious to know what individual people here think. The original question, posed by a Tibetan Buddhist monk, was: If you knew of a spiritual practice that you were *certain* produced beneficial effects to all who practice it, and produced equally beneficial effects for the world as a whole, and you had the ability to legislate the practice and force everyone to do it, would it be ethical to do so; that is, would such an approach be in accord with the dharma? Unc If you are `certain' that a practice produces beneficial effects to everyone in every circumstance even when people are forced to do it, this certainty still doesn't guarantee that the practise actually is beneficial. And what you understand to be beneficial may not be that according to somebody else's standards. If a practise is truly beneficial to most people, it will spread by itself as fast as people are capable of appreciating and adopting it. E.g. meditation may have some beneficial influence on many people in some aspects. But it also takes time to do it and because of it you may have to drop some other activity. If it means that you spend clearly less time with your children or drop physical exercise, the overall effect may not be beneficial. Not likely. 20 minutes TM is beneficial beyond the effects of 20 minutes exercise. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Politics of Spiritual Belief
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/1/05 4:15 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you knew of a spiritual practice that you were *certain* produced beneficial effects to all who practice it, and produced equally beneficial effects for the world as a whole, and you had the ability to legislate the practice and force everyone to do it, would it be ethical to do so; that is, would such an approach be in accord with the dharma? You can't force people to do a spiritual practice. Even if it is theoretically beneficial for all, it won't be beneficial for someone forced to practice it. They wouldn't be practicing TM if forced to anyway. The question is silly. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: What is Heaven on Earth?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This term is thrown about like dice. It seems to be a big motivator. I am curious what it means. Heaven on Earth seems the catch-all phrase for many religious and New Agey types, just as fighting terrorism is the catch-all phrase for the government for doing whatever it wants to do. So is there a heaven at all? Is it the same for everybody? Who gets a piece? If Earth is red and Heaven is blue then will Heaven on earth be Purple? Or will it be as Maharishi has made us think, that no sidha foot will touch the ground? If a heaven is to come to earth then we should know what to expect and what to work for, no? All good everywhere and non-good nowhere. Or something likethat. Define good... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] The scorpion and the sage
From the new book by Keith Wallace, printed in the MUM Review: As part of the book's afterword, Dr. Morris tells the following story: I remember a story that was told long ago about a sage. It is the story of a scorpion that goes into the Ganges and starts to drown, and then the sage saves the scorpion and the scorpion stings the sage. Then the scorpion goes back into the water and starts to drown again. Again, the sage goes and rescues the scorpion, and the scorpion stings. After a few times like this, the people looking on are saying, 'What kind of man is this?' And they ask him, 'Why do you keep doing this, when the scorpion keeps stinging?' And the sage says, 'It is the scorpion's nature to sting, but it is my nature to save.' I think that this is just the story of Maharishi in the midst of this age, which in India is called Kali Yuga, a time of darkness, violence, stress, and strain that has been going on these last 5,000 years or so. We see the violence in the world we see people like tigers pouncing and there is no point in our trying to persuade them not to be tigers, because that is their nature. But what Maharishi offers to those in this world who have a peaceful heart, who have a peaceful wish for the human race, is that they just take up this knowledge, and put it in their schools and colleges and universities for the children to rise in peace. The result will be that all of this violent nature that exists in the world will simply disappear. It will just quietly evaporate before our eyes. This is the chance that is before us today to change the destiny of our human race. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] TM school in South Africa
http://mum.edu/TheReview June 1st, 2005 6. Taddy Blecher Speaks on CIDA City School Dr.Taddy Blecher, founder of a school in South Africa in which the 1,400 students practice the Transcendental Meditation technique, recently spoke to the community about his experience starting the school and encouraging his audience to be visionary. His talk captivated, delighted, and inspired the audience, bringing a standing ovation in response to his great success. Founded five years ago, CIDA City School is one of only five institutions in South Africa to receive accreditation for its undergraduate business degree. Top business people and information technology professionals volunteer to teach in the school, allowing CIDA to offer some of the most advanced business and technical programs in the country. The school recently won an award as the most innovative organization in South Africa. Students come from the most difficult circumstances and are turning into young leaders of the country in business and computer technology. Every day we tell them 'Man is born in the image of God. You are the greatest people who have ever walked the earth,' Dr. Blecher said. The school's simple but innovative creed is to create an educational institution run entirely on love and trust. People are moved to tears when they enter the building and feel the happiness and energy of our students, Dr. Blecher said. Great creativity was necessary at every step of the development of the school to overcome tremendous financial restrictions. The school was started without any money, without any books, without any computers, without any buildings. Dr. Blecher said that creating a large group of meditators has helped to transform South Africa. No one is fighting any more, Dr. Blecher said. Business confidence is at an all-time high. People are so positive and they don't know why. The curse of South Africa has been lifted. Dr. Blecher read a letter from 150 students at CIDA to the University and community. You are our brothers and sisters across the ocean, and we love you all deeply. Let us together thrill world consciousness and realize Heaven on Earth soon, they wrote. The students suggested raising funds for a few of their students to come to visit as well as an exchange program. In response to a question from the audience requesting his help in establishing groups of 8,000 Yogic Flyers in the U.S., Dr. Blecher said, There's no question that it can be done. You have to feel it from way down deep beneath your toes . . . to way up into the stars. Never be afraid of failure, he continued. We made so many mistakes. So many things can go wrong. Just go back to the Self and these Eureka kind of ideas will come! Dr. Blecher was recently voted the best speaker in South Africa and has won the award for being one of the top 100 Global Leaders of Tomorrow from the World Economic Forum. Dr. Blecher and his colleagues and school have now received support from all over the world, including top people in business and entertainment. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Politics of Spiritual Belief
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/1/05 10:22 AM, scienceofabundance at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And any of us who have been involved in third world TMO projects quickly came to realize that once the monetary/food/educational or other incentives that people in these countries got to meditate stopped (which they always did), 99% of the people who began to meditate stopped. In the Philippines TM was pretty much forced upon some school classes. Some of the kids were very upset. Angry and tearful. Some stopped coming to school as long as we were there. Explains Bishop Tito's anti-TM stance. Bishop Tito probably explains the kid's reaction, however. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Politics of Spiritual Belief
Suggestion below: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: **SNIP** As for requiring everyone to do it... Its not possible to require people to practice TM, even if they sit still for 20 minutes. What practice IS it possible to force people to do? Unc **END** Well, you could shoot up the ground at their feet and tell 'em to Dance! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Politics of Spiritual Belief
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At Mum and the MSAE it's also forced upon all the students. Sal They chose to come to MUM knowing that tm was a requirement. And parents require their kids to do stuff all the time without comment from you. ESPECIALLY the going to school part. BTW, how many kids at MSAE hate MSAE? On Jun 1, 2005, at 10:32 AM, Rick Archer wrote: In the Philippines TM was pretty much forced upon some school classes. Some of the kids were very upset. Angry and tearful. Some stopped coming to school as long as we were there. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: John Bolton's Nomination/Secret Downing St, Memos...'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi John, Notice how that story about oil vouchers has quieted down? The last I heard of it was that when an investigation of the oil vouchers began in earnest, it was found that the vast majority had gone to usa corporations!! ...shut the news feed down, place head back in sand, please... I haven't followed it in detail, but I was more interested in how the vouchers were used to influence the French vote in the UN. JohnY Proof of this? If saddam was spreading the vouchers around to everyone, how can you show that they were morepolitically effective in France? Maybe the French were just more prone to be anti-war... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
