[FairfieldLife] What is too-too-five-sev'n?

2007-11-29 Thread cardemaister

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[FairfieldLife] Re: UFC Goons

2007-11-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  I have never seen any evidence for the one strike
  one kill myth in
  karate anywhere in any fighting system I have seen. 
  I think it is a
  story like yogis flying in the air. Well I probably
  give it a higher
  probability than flying, but you get my point. 
 
 I really would like to belief that such a thing is
 possible, but like you say, its like yogis flying
 through the air. I'd luv to see it, but I doubt it.
 For so many centuries these karate and kung-fu guys
 have been believing their own press releases. As you
 have noted, UFC and MMA competition put all this
 killer striking ability to rest pretty quickly.

Yep. The parallels between belief in magical
abilities through siddhis and the belief in
magical abilities through the martial arts
is a strong one. As is the posturing we see
in those who still believe the PR despite
decades in the study without ever seeing even
one demonstration of the myths.

As a general rule in the martial arts, anyone
who talks about how well they can kick ass can't.  :-)

Pretty much the same phenomenon as those who
talk a lot about their darshan and how power-
fully they can affect others' spiritual progress.
The more talk, the less effect IMO. 

The few teachers I've encountered who seemed to
really have some extraordinary abilities going 
for them -- either in the martial arts or in the 
realm of consciousness -- were pretty quiet about 
it. It was about action, not talk. And *after*
the action, they never mentioned it again or
tried to milk it for any PR or credit. They
just did their jobs.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: UFC Goons

2007-11-29 Thread Angela Mailander
I saw a pretty amazing guy in China do some things I'd have thought good work 
on the part of the special effects people in a movie.  I'll describe briefly 
what he did and then I'd like your thoughts on what that was all about.

I was sitting on a bench with a student in downtown Zhenjiang, a crowded place, 
when I noticed a guy starting to cross the square.  He was very very old.  No 
telling how old, but eighties at least if not nineties.  And there was 
something strange about the way he walked--like he was in a different movie 
from the rest of us in which time moved more slowly or like he was walking on 
the moon where there's less gravity or under water.  

When he got opposite  us, he was suddenly involved  with three strong young 
girls, late teens, early twenties.  He was juggling them--it's the only way I 
can put it.  They tried to get away.  He'd hold two of them, one in each hand, 
and the third one would try to run.  Then he'd grab her, letting another one 
loose, who tried to run, but he'd grab her, letting another one loose, and so 
on.  He made it look effortless. 

Finally the girls dropped to their knees and begged him to let them go.  And he 
gave a little speech, which my student translated for me.  Apparently, he'd 
caught those girls picking someone's pocket, and he was giving them a lecture 
about the social contract, and how you couldn't run a society with their 
attitude, and what would happen to them if they kept it up.  Then he let them 
go.

I sent my student to capture this guy and ask him if he'd be willing to talk 
for a while with this big nosed ghost, and he came over and sat down.  He was 
blind!

In China, they train blind men to do massage, so I became his weekly client.  
But he never would talk to me about his martial arts background.  He was 
clearly a Daoist, though---that informed all his conversations with me, as he 
sat on a low stool and massaged my feet. 



TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   --- In 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  --- curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
  
   I have never seen any evidence for the one strike
   one kill myth in
   karate anywhere in any fighting system I have seen. 
   I think it is a
   story like yogis flying in the air. Well I probably
   give it a higher
   probability than flying, but you get my point. 
  
  I really would like to belief that such a thing is
  possible, but like you say, its like yogis flying
  through the air. I'd luv to see it, but I doubt it.
  For so many centuries these karate and kung-fu guys
  have been believing their own press releases. As you
  have noted, UFC and MMA competition put all this
  killer striking ability to rest pretty quickly.
 
 Yep. The parallels between belief in magical
 abilities through siddhis and the belief in
 magical abilities through the martial arts
 is a strong one. As is the posturing we see
 in those who still believe the PR despite
 decades in the study without ever seeing even
 one demonstration of the myths.
 
 As a general rule in the martial arts, anyone
 who talks about how well they can kick ass can't.  :-)
 
 Pretty much the same phenomenon as those who
 talk a lot about their darshan and how power-
 fully they can affect others' spiritual progress.
 The more talk, the less effect IMO. 
 
 The few teachers I've encountered who seemed to
 really have some extraordinary abilities going 
 for them -- either in the martial arts or in the 
 realm of consciousness -- were pretty quiet about 
 it. It was about action, not talk. And *after*
 the action, they never mentioned it again or
 tried to milk it for any PR or credit. They
 just did their jobs.
 
 
 
   

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[FairfieldLife] Concentration Camps Already Built in America -- FOR Americans? Video with Evidence

2007-11-29 Thread PROUT News
*Is there a place for you by the Federally Enforced Management Authority?*
*Complete with chains in the floor next to your bed to keep you there?*

What have the administration and the eternal bureaucrats been
doing to protect you, provide for the common defense, and
promote the general welfare of Americans?  Well, comrade,
assuming you are the enemy is part of what they've done ...
to protect themselves and make sure that you continue to
consume, consume, consume and consume some more.  So,
when the economy collapses, for America and the world at large,
what are they going to do with you?

 *http://Concentration-Camps-In-America.shows.it*
http://concentration-camps-in-america.shows.it/

Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty.  Journalism -- the
free press -- used to be the avant gard of our freedoms, the
defacto Fourth Branch of Government, yet has now become
the annexed department of the Executive Branch and works as
its ditto-heading disseminator of supposed facts and verifiable
lies spilling forth from the bowels of KKKarl Rove and
others in the nether world of the Animal House occupied by
the unelected Idiot-in-Chief doing a more obscene job of
it, by far, than that other actor, RayGun.

The research has been done, by American libertarian Alex
Jones.  You may have heard him already, in the news,
*on the radio http://alexjones-texanbarksbackatbush.playz.it/ *or through
this or other newsgroups.
 Concerned *about your freedoms* -- all of our
freedoms -- which are quickly being usurped by
Bimbos-at-Large in the Animal House in DC, and forfeited
by massive herds of all-too-busy and often too negligent
American People, Alex finds the crap on BushCo and the
NeoCons and presents it for *your consideration and concern*:

 *http://Concentration-Camps-In-America.shows.it*
http://concentration-camps-in-america.shows.it/

While I don't always jive with some of Alex Jones' nuances
of facts and history, I certainly comport with his concern
and evidence about large portions of our government -- most
all unelected federal workers -- intending to make
knuckle-draggers of us all.  From dumbing-down to buying
votes through tax rebates, and making surveillance of your
deservedly intimate life ubiquitous with your giddy delight
in forfeiting your rights [and responsibilities] as a citizen,
wittingly or unwittingly, the next threshold is a police
state as the world responds, in unison, to the economic and
political rape perpetrated by our government and companies:
an incestuous fornication otherwise known in the dictionary
and history books as fascism.

Watch the video to learn more about how this is
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 **
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[FairfieldLife] “What the Beatles Gave Science” in Newsweek

2007-11-29 Thread Vaj

“What the Beatles Gave Science” in Newsweek
http://www.newsweek.com/id/69587

Their visit popularized the notion that the spiritual East has  
something to teach the rational West.


Nov 19, 2007 Issue

Like millions of others who believed there must be more to life than  
the libertine exuberance of the '60s, the Beatles hoped that the  
Hindu teacher Mahesh Yogi—known as the Maharishi, or great saint— 
would help them fill some kind of hole, as Paul McCartney put it  
years later. So in the spring of 1968, the Fab Four traveled to the  
Maharishi's ashram overlooking the Ganges River in northern India,  
where they meditated for hours each day in search of enlightenment,  
as Bob Spitz recounts in his exhaustive 2005 biography, The  
Beatles. The high-profile visit still echoes 40 years later—in, of  
all places, science, for the trip popularized the notion that the  
spiritual East has something to teach the rational West. Soon the  
Maharishi was on Time magazine next to the line Meditation: The  
Answer to All Your Problems?



It wasn't. But in the late 1960s a few intrepid scientists began  
dipping their toes into the exotic new waters to study the effects of  
Transcendental Meditation (TM), which the Maharishi developed, and  
other forms of mental training. Most of that early research was just  
not of high caliber, says B. Alan Wallace, president of the Santa  
Barbara Institute of Consciousness Studies. Reputable scientists  
were told, 'We can't study that; we'll be tarred and feathered'. But  
just as meditation has become as mainstream as aerobics, research on  
it has achieved a respectability that astonishes those who remember  
the early floundering. With neuroscientists at the University of  
California, Davis, Wallace is leading a $1.4 million study of the  
effects of intensive meditation on attention, cognitive function and  
emotion regulation. Prestigious institutions such as the M.D.  
Anderson Cancer Center conduct studies on how Tibetan yoga improves  
sleep in patients with lymphoma, and top journals publish research on  
the brain waves of Buddhist monks. Studies of meditation are more  
than mainstream. They're expanding beyond the predictable—I mean, how  
surprising is it that meditating lowers stress?—into uncharted  
terrain, such as how different forms of meditation alter brain  
circuits in an enduring way.


In large part, that research is making headway because it's much more  
rigorous than in the early days. Then, few studies accounted for the  
annoying little fact that meditators' low levels of stress might  
reflect self-selection (maybe only mellow people chose to meditate  
and stuck with it) rather than the practice itself. Nor did they  
consider that the reduction in stress, blood pressure, heart rate and  
other measures between the beginning and the end of a meditation  
course might reflect the placebo effect: you expect something good to  
happen, and it does. You can't really control for that, says Robert  
Schneider of Marahishi University in Iowa, a center of research on  
TM, but new studies come close. Although relaxation techniques and  
TM both lower blood pressure, for instance, the effect of TM is twice  
as big. Top hospitals from Stanford to Duke are convinced: they have  
instituted meditation programs for patients suffering chronic pain  
and other ailments.


Afraid to sully their reputations, it took three decades for  
scientists to ask the obvious: does meditation change the brain? But  
in the 1990s British psychiatrist John Teasdale became intrigued with  
mindfulness meditation, a Buddhist practice in which you sit quietly  
and observe whatever thoughts and perceptions arise in your  
consciousness, but without judging them. He and colleagues showed  
that mindfulness training halves the rate at which people treated for  
depression relapse. That set the stage of studies showing that mere  
thought can alter brain activity in a long-lasting way that benefits  
other forms of mental illness.


Neuropsychologist Richard Davidson of the University of Wisconsin had  
practiced meditation since the 1970s but didn't dare study it. Only  
in the 1990s did he come out of the closet, he says. Now Buddhist  
monks and yogis trek to his lab to have their brains scanned. They  
look different from the brains of undergraduates (but then, whose  
doesn't?), having stronger electrical waves of the kind that knit  
together disparate thoughts into the grand enterprise of consciousness.


Even in novices, meditation leaves its mark. An eight-week course in  
compassion meditation, in which volunteers focus on the wish that all  
beings be free from suffering, shifted brain activity from the right  
prefrontal cortex to the left, a pattern associated with a greater  
sense of well-being. And three months of intensive training (10 to 12  
hours a day) in mindfulness meditation had a remarkable effect on  
attention. Usually, when something attracts 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: UFC Goons

2007-11-29 Thread Peter

--- curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

   You cannot test martial arts without using a
 Kmiti Shotokan style 
  competition.
 
 I am a little unclear on your point. Is it that your
 Shotokan style is
 the bestest onliest realist ultimatist super
 duperist wowy dowiest
 toppermostist of the popermostist ultraist wammer
 jammerist
 supercalafracilisticexpialidoshisist fantabulous Mt.
 Everestic
 Vendantabulous martial art.  (The one you studied)
 
 All other martial arts, not so much?
 
 Am I reading your fine point clearly? Let me
 summarize
 
 Off has the highest martial arts teaching.
 
 Everyone else, doesn't.
 
 Are we on the same page now? 

Curtis, you must have missed the memo!




 
 
 
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
 off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
 curtisdeltablues 
  curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
  
  
   It doesn't have to be Shotokan style.  The right
 strike ends fights in
   a flash in UFC all the time.  You don't curl in
 a ball to defend, you
   move in and out of range while striking
 yourself.  For a straight line
   attack like traditional karate the movement is
 circular peppered with
   low kicks.  
  
  That's the whole point. Peppering someone with
 inneffective side swipes 
  with no power available behind them in a real
 situation is a joke. You 
  might as well go play table tennis. Karate is
 designed to have the 
  whole body and the force of every muscle in the
 body and the whole body 
  lunging at full force to a cripple or kill spot at
 incredible speed. 
  Anything else is a joke and you would get killed
 using anything else in 
  a real situation.
  
   You cannot test martial arts without using a
 Kmiti Shotokan style 
  competition. If any of those UFC people came to a
 Kmiti fight most of 
  them would be humbled completely (and some bloody
 noses). The only 
  legitimate test of the efficacy of a martial art
 is Kmiti, where the 
  fight is stopped after a strike. Best out of three
 strikes. 
  
  Otherwise it is a bar-room brawl and does not test
 what Shotokan is 
  designed for. Instead of those goons claiming they
 can beat Shotokan at 
  silly brawls that don't test what martial arts
 were designed for, let's 
  see them come to a Kmiti competition. Shotokan has
 dominated such 
  competitions in the past when other forms turned
 up to fight. Kmiti is 
  the only true test of a martial art. The rest is
 worse than mud-
  wrestling because it doesn't test anything. You
 have to stop the fight 
  after one strike for it to be a legitimate test.
 One strike could 
  easily kill someone, and you are naive if you
 think it cannot.
  
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: UFC Goons

2007-11-29 Thread Peter

--- curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Snip
  
  Curtis, my neighbor (30 something guy) has trained
 in
  Muay Thai for several years. He works out a lot in
 his
  garage. I asked him to demonstrate some Muay Thai
  moves on me a while back. I'm an old judo guy so i
 do
  know somethings on the mat. My experience was like
  yours. That behind the neck lock-up is incredibly
  powerful. 
  
 
 Peter,
 
 I was wondering when you would join in!
 Yeah, I was blown away by the Muay Thai clinch's
 control even without
 eating knees which is how Rich Franklin experienced
 it a few UFC's
 back. I dig their low kicks too.
 
 Judo is such a great tough sport.  I did a lot of
 Judo in my first
 school.  Learning to fall in a relaxed state while
 being thrown was a
 religious quest for me.  One class I asked my
 teacher to throw me 25
 times in a row so I could begin to stay conscious
 enough to
 experience the throw.  It really helped.  I
 learned how to slide my
 hand on their GI as I was flying over them to slow
 down my impact. But
 even with that it is really hard on your body to get
 thrown.  Not to
 mention all the nasty ways to accelerate a throw
 that would pop up
 with certain sadistic partners!  Like my TM
 intensive days, I am
 really happy to have experienced it, and really
 happy I am not into it
 like that now.
 
 The discussion with Off really brings me back to all
 those debates
 when UFC 2 blew the lid off.  Those were exciting
 times when a little
 Gracie ground game could give you a huge advantage
 in a classically
 trained Jiu jitsu or Judo dojo.  Now the sport is at
 such a high
 level.  Last year I hit the mat with a purple belt
 Gracie fighter who
 I used to train with in the mid 90's.  Very quickly
 it became obvious
 that the world had passed me by, his skill level was
 so radically
 different, I couldn't do a single thing to slow down
 the inevitable. 
 What a brilliant system of body chess! But I have
 fallen off the board
 and I can't get up!  When he described all his
 injuries and how messed
 up his fingers are I remembered why I had accepted
 my fate and hung up
 my GI.
 
 These days IFC is on cable, the UFC reality show has
 fights every
 week, and the day after UFC you can catch the fights
 online for free.
  It is really blowing up as a sport. But 70 UFCs ago
 Royce Gracie
 changed the way I viewed martial arts forever.  And
 I sure wasn't the
 only one!

UFC 1-6 were the best! What a shock to all the
karate/gung-fu one-punch-kills-all dudes. That's why
I'm surprised that there are martial arts afficinados
out there that still believe in some superduper secret
school of one punch destroys all. Really quite silly.
I'd love to see it if it was true. I'd love to see
some guy lift a horse with his ki the same way I'd
love to see some siddha actually fly high in the
dome. But I ain't waitin' anymore! I'm always open to
the possibility but until i see it...






 
   
 
 
 
  
   


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[FairfieldLife] Re: Everybody's a Dr. these days

2007-11-29 Thread boo_lives
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives boo_lives@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ 
 wrote:
  
   Actually, in this particular list, many if not most are actual 
 PhDs 
   or other doctorates or MDs or in the case of Lenny Goldman, an 
 LLD (a 
   lawyer, doctor of laws). 
   
  No, lawyers are not referred to as Doctor.  Who in this list is an
  actually PhD or MD??  Not Sands, Norton, Nevas, Schaefer, Monokian,
  Hensley, Brooks, Goldman or Rosania -- the others I'm not familiar
  with, but my guess is that only 1-2 qualify.
  
  The mov'ts doctrine of calling everyone a Doctor is at best weird.
  
  
 
 **
 
 Lawyers do have a doctorate -- an LLD or other doctoral-level term, 
 and although they are not addressed usually as doctor, when lawyers 
 serve on law school faculty, they are considered to have completed 
 the doctorate and listed as such in faculty stats:
 
 
 The Doctor of Juridical Science, J.S.D. (or S.J.D.), sometimes 
 awarded as Doctor of the Science of Law, is the highest law degree 
 awarded in the United States. Because of its rarity, most law schools 
 in the United States accept the LL.B./J.D. degree as the basic 
 entrance qualification for law school teaching. Laws schools that 
 place an emphasis on legal scholarship have more professors holding 
 advanced law degrees such as the LL.M. or the J.S.D./S.J.D.
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_of_Laws

Yeah yeah I know what JD means - the issue was whether lawyers are
called doctors and they aren't.

 Since you are careless enough not to bother researching even the 
 first name in the list, Bill Sands, who does have a PhD ( an earned 
 doctorate from MUM: http://www.mum.edu/faculty/sands_william.html ), 
 I'm not going the legwork for you and demonstrate that several of the 
 people on the list do have doctorates.

I've known Bill Sands for over 20 yrs and don't need to research him -
he's a nice guy but I don't consider a PhD in vedic science from MUM
to be a real PhD.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: UFC Goons

2007-11-29 Thread Vaj
There are a good number of techniques in Taoist internal practices  
which are similar to what you describe. Some involve internal  
practices which are linked to movement. In external reality these  
would look like someone was doing Tai Chi or walking oddly, but in  
actuality the internal process was just being done in tune with the  
external movement. The teacher who taught me saw what largely passes  
as Tai Chi forms as a martial art. It's only when they were linked to  
the inner movement of Chi that they had any real power. That was  
supposed to be capable of all sorts of capacities, for example  
rooting someone to the ground or striking a blow to internal  
points...without ever touching the person. When it's practiced one  
does this weird walking/stalking kind of motion.


Probably a Chi Kung master the way it sounds!

On Nov 29, 2007, at 8:57 AM, Angela Mailander wrote:

I saw a pretty amazing guy in China do some things I'd have thought  
good work on the part of the special effects people in a movie.   
I'll describe briefly what he did and then I'd like your thoughts  
on what that was all about.


I was sitting on a bench with a student in downtown Zhenjiang, a  
crowded place, when I noticed a guy starting to cross the square.   
He was very very old.  No telling how old, but eighties at least if  
not nineties.  And there was something strange about the way he  
walked--like he was in a different movie from the rest of us in  
which time moved more slowly or like he was walking on the moon  
where there's less gravity or under water.


When he got opposite  us, he was suddenly involved  with three  
strong young girls, late teens, early twenties.  He was juggling  
them--it's the only way I can put it.  They tried to get away.   
He'd hold two of them, one in each hand, and the third one would  
try to run.  Then he'd grab her, letting another one loose, who  
tried to run, but he'd grab her, letting another one loose, and so  
on.  He made it look effortless.


Finally the girls dropped to their knees and begged him to let them  
go.  And he gave a little speech, which my student translated for  
me.  Apparently, he'd caught those girls picking someone's pocket,  
and he was giving them a lecture about the social contract, and how  
you couldn't run a society with their attitude, and what would  
happen to them if they kept it up.  Then he let them go.


I sent my student to capture this guy and ask him if he'd be  
willing to talk for a while with this big nosed ghost, and he came  
over and sat down.  He was blind!


In China, they train blind men to do massage, so I became his  
weekly client.  But he never would talk to me about his martial  
arts background.  He was clearly a Daoist, though---that informed  
all his conversations with me, as he sat on a low stool and  
massaged my feet.




[FairfieldLife] Hidden Dimensions: The Unification of Physics and Consciousness

2007-11-29 Thread Vaj
Nice linked article!Hidden Dimensions: The Unification of Physics and ConsciousnessClick here to read chapter 4.Bridging the gap between the world of science and the realm of the spiritual, B. Alan Wallace introduces a natural theory of human consciousness that has its roots in contemporary physics and Buddhism. Wallace’s “special theory of ontological relativity” suggests that mental phenomena are conditioned by the brain, but do not emerge from it. Rather, the entire natural world of mind and matter, subjects and objects, arises from a unitary dimension of reality that is more fundamental than these dualities, as proposed by Wolfgang Pauli and Carl Jung.To test his hypothesis, Wallace employs the Buddhist meditative practice of śamatha, refining one’s attention and metacognition, to create a kind of telescope to examine the space of the mind. Drawing on the work of the physicist John Wheeler, he then proposes a more general theory in which the participatory nature of reality is envisioned as a self-excited circuit. In comparing these ideas to the Buddhist theory known as the Middle Way philosophy, Wallace explores further aspects of his “general theory of ontological relativity,” which can be investigated by means of vipaśyanā, or insight, meditation. Wallace then focuses on the theme of symmetry in reference to quantum cosmology and the “problem of frozen time,” relating these issues to the theory and practices of the Great Perfection school of Tibetan Buddhism. He concludes with a discussion of the general theme of complementarity as it relates to science and religion.The theories of relativity and quantum mechanics were major achievements in the physical sciences, and the theory of evolution has had an equally deep impact on the life sciences. Yet rigorous scientific methods do not yet exist to observe mental phenomena, and naturalism has its limits for shedding light on the workings of the mind. A pioneer of modern consciousness research, Wallace offers a practical and revolutionary method for exploring the mind that combines the keenest insights of contemporary physicists and philosophers with the time-honored meditative traditions of Buddhism.

[FairfieldLife] Re: What is too-too-five-sev'n?

2007-11-29 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Adult:
 
 http://upload dot youp*rn dot com/

Why ask someone to do a Google search for you and sit there waiting
for the answer when you can simply do the Google search yourself and
have the answer in a matter of seconds?



[FairfieldLife] Oldies but Goldies: Quantum suicide!

2007-11-29 Thread cardemaister

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_suicide_and_immortality



[FairfieldLife] Re: UFC Goons

2007-11-29 Thread curtisdeltablues
Angela,

First of all I am fascinated with China.  What an interesting life you
must have had there!  I know it only through Chinese friends and
reading.  I went through a rather obsessive period of reading stories
of people who lived through the Cultural Revolution and the life of
Mao.  It kind of blew all my previous worries about how the TM
organization operates out the window.  Not because there aren't
parallels, there are.  But the scale and magnitude of what went down
in China dwarfed the movement's influence so much I stopped caring
about it so much.

Now to your interesting story...

When I used to practice martial arts I used to get paired with blue
collar workers who had spent the day loading flats of plants as
landscapers.  The first time one of them grabbed me it seemed like a
supernatural force.  Their hands were so hardened from their years of
labor that, compared to my lily whites,their grip was monstrous. As
much as I train and weight lift, I never have achieved the natural
strength of guys who earn a living with their bodies.  So my first
thought is that this guy may have worked physically hard all his life.
If this guy did massage for a living, he had arms and grip that could
easily control, not only these young girls, but almost anyone who
didn't spend all day, every day working physically.  Even at his
advanced age those girls were no match.

People who work outside can look much older than they are.  My
Shanghaiese buddy is only 10 years older than I am but he looks like
he could be my dad. He spent the Cultural Revolution on a farm and it
aged him terribly.

The first time my Judo teacher shoved me with his whole body, it was
like a truck hit me.  Same with when he would pull me with his whole
body engaged.  It seemed supernatural to me until I learned to do it
myself.  

Next these girls were probably not willing to really take on an elder
after having committed a crime right?  The implication of really
decking the old guy would probably bring some consequences.  So they
may have been playing a bit rather then really going all out to resist
him.  This guy would have had a different experience with some of the
homegirls in my neighborhood who wouldn't have given him any respect.

The different levels of blindness can account for an ability to
recognize shapes enough to grab a thing as big as a human.

Finally, due to the fact that it was almost as if it was a show for
your benefit, I can't rule out that it was not a bit of street hustle.
 Although you sent someone over to him, if you hadn't, he might have
approached you.  The chances that you would be a higher paying
customer than a Chinese person makes such a display very worthwhile. 
I have had a team of street hustlers in DC approach me in a
choreographed sequence, contrived spontaneity.  It is quite convincing
and dangerous.  One lady in the group was pushing a baby in a baby
carriage, how disarming is that! 

None of my speculations makes your story less interesting Angela. I am
not attempting to  explain what happened, just some possibilities
that come to my mind. Thanks for asking for our POVs on this personal
experience.   




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I saw a pretty amazing guy in China do some things I'd have thought
good work on the part of the special effects people in a movie.  I'll
describe briefly what he did and then I'd like your thoughts on what
that was all about.
 
 I was sitting on a bench with a student in downtown Zhenjiang, a
crowded place, when I noticed a guy starting to cross the square.  He
was very very old.  No telling how old, but eighties at least if not
nineties.  And there was something strange about the way he
walked--like he was in a different movie from the rest of us in which
time moved more slowly or like he was walking on the moon where
there's less gravity or under water.  
 
 When he got opposite  us, he was suddenly involved  with three
strong young girls, late teens, early twenties.  He was juggling
them--it's the only way I can put it.  They tried to get away.  He'd
hold two of them, one in each hand, and the third one would try to
run.  Then he'd grab her, letting another one loose, who tried to run,
but he'd grab her, letting another one loose, and so on.  He made it
look effortless. 
 
 Finally the girls dropped to their knees and begged him to let them
go.  And he gave a little speech, which my student translated for me.
 Apparently, he'd caught those girls picking someone's pocket, and he
was giving them a lecture about the social contract, and how you
couldn't run a society with their attitude, and what would happen to
them if they kept it up.  Then he let them go.
 
 I sent my student to capture this guy and ask him if he'd be willing
to talk for a while with this big nosed ghost, and he came over and
sat down.  He was blind!
 
 In China, they train blind men to do massage, so I became his weekly
client.  But he never 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: UFC Goons

2007-11-29 Thread Angela Mailander
Sounds right. I forgot to mention that he could put a candle out at a distance 
by just pointing at it.  

Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   There are a good 
number of techniques in Taoist internal practices which are similar to what you 
describe. Some involve internal practices which are linked to movement. In 
external reality these would look like someone was doing Tai Chi or walking 
oddly, but in actuality the internal process was just being done in tune with 
the external movement. The teacher who taught me saw what largely passes as Tai 
Chi forms as a martial art. It's only when they were linked to the inner 
movement of Chi that they had any real power. That was supposed to be capable 
of all sorts of capacities, for example rooting someone to the ground or 
striking a blow to internal points...without ever touching the person. When 
it's practiced one does this weird walking/stalking kind of motion. 


Probably a Chi Kung master the way it sounds!
On Nov 29, 2007, at 8:57 AM, Angela Mailander wrote:

I saw a pretty amazing guy in China do some things I'd have thought good work 
on the part of the special effects people in a movie.  I'll describe briefly 
what he did and then I'd like your thoughts on what that was all about.

I was sitting on a bench with a student in downtown Zhenjiang, a crowded place, 
when I noticed a guy starting to cross the square.  He was very very old.  No 
telling how old, but eighties at least if not nineties.  And there was 
something strange about the way he walked--like he was in a different movie 
from the rest of us in which time moved more slowly or like he was walking on 
the moon where there's less gravity or under water.  

When he got opposite  us, he was suddenly involved  with three strong young 
girls, late teens, early twenties.  He was juggling them--it's the only way I 
can put it.  They tried to get away.  He'd hold two of them, one in each hand, 
and the third one would try to run.  Then he'd grab her, letting another one 
loose, who tried to run, but he'd grab her, letting another one loose, and so 
on.  He made it look effortless. 

Finally the girls dropped to their knees and begged him to let them go.  And he 
gave a little speech, which my student translated for me.  Apparently, he'd 
caught those girls picking someone's pocket, and he was giving them a lecture 
about the social contract, and how you couldn't run a society with their 
attitude, and what would happen to them if they kept it up.  Then he let them 
go.

I sent my student to capture this guy and ask him if he'd be willing to talk 
for a while with this big nosed ghost, and he came over and sat down.  He was 
blind!

In China, they train blind men to do massage, so I became his weekly client.  
But he never would talk to me about his martial arts background.  He was 
clearly a Daoist, though---that informed all his conversations with me, as he 
sat on a low stool and massaged my feet. 





 
   

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[FairfieldLife] Levitation or a Magic Trick ?

2007-11-29 Thread aztjbailey

He doesn't say much on the video. 

http://www.nbc4.com/news/14398492/detail.html




[FairfieldLife] Re: The reality of 'Aum'

2007-11-29 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Om is not really something you use as a chant or mantra.
 It comes to the body and mind by itself as a powerful wave that fills 
 and expands all the body with some kind of power. 
 Not sure if it is useful power or not, just know that that is the 
 reality of Om.
 
 It comes as a RESULT of practice, spontaneaouly, not by choice, and 
 not so much as a tool to get there, although I don't dismiss its use 
 as a practice for some.
 
 OffWorld

Thats interesting Off. It happens to you ?



[FairfieldLife] Re: “What the Beatles Gave Science” in Newsweek

2007-11-29 Thread shempmcgurk
Is that Nancy Cooke de Herrera in the upper left-hand corner?

If it is, she reminds me of Zelig.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What the Beatles Gave Science in Newsweek
 http://www.newsweek.com/id/69587
 
 Their visit popularized the notion that the spiritual East has  
 something to teach the rational West.
 
 Nov 19, 2007 Issue
 
 Like millions of others who believed there must be more to life 
than  
 the libertine exuberance of the '60s, the Beatles hoped that the  
 Hindu teacher Mahesh Yogi—known as the Maharishi, or great saint— 
 would help them fill some kind of hole, as Paul McCartney put it  
 years later. So in the spring of 1968, the Fab Four traveled to 
the  
 Maharishi's ashram overlooking the Ganges River in northern India,  
 where they meditated for hours each day in search of 
enlightenment,  
 as Bob Spitz recounts in his exhaustive 2005 biography, The  
 Beatles. The high-profile visit still echoes 40 years later—in, 
of  
 all places, science, for the trip popularized the notion that the  
 spiritual East has something to teach the rational West. Soon the  
 Maharishi was on Time magazine next to the line Meditation: The  
 Answer to All Your Problems?
 
 
 It wasn't. But in the late 1960s a few intrepid scientists began  
 dipping their toes into the exotic new waters to study the effects 
of  
 Transcendental Meditation (TM), which the Maharishi developed, and  
 other forms of mental training. Most of that early research was 
just  
 not of high caliber, says B. Alan Wallace, president of the Santa  
 Barbara Institute of Consciousness Studies. Reputable scientists  
 were told, 'We can't study that; we'll be tarred and feathered'. 
But  
 just as meditation has become as mainstream as aerobics, research 
on  
 it has achieved a respectability that astonishes those who 
remember  
 the early floundering. With neuroscientists at the University of  
 California, Davis, Wallace is leading a $1.4 million study of the  
 effects of intensive meditation on attention, cognitive function 
and  
 emotion regulation. Prestigious institutions such as the M.D.  
 Anderson Cancer Center conduct studies on how Tibetan yoga 
improves  
 sleep in patients with lymphoma, and top journals publish research 
on  
 the brain waves of Buddhist monks. Studies of meditation are more  
 than mainstream. They're expanding beyond the predictable—I mean, 
how  
 surprising is it that meditating lowers stress?—into uncharted  
 terrain, such as how different forms of meditation alter brain  
 circuits in an enduring way.
 
 In large part, that research is making headway because it's much 
more  
 rigorous than in the early days. Then, few studies accounted for 
the  
 annoying little fact that meditators' low levels of stress might  
 reflect self-selection (maybe only mellow people chose to meditate  
 and stuck with it) rather than the practice itself. Nor did they  
 consider that the reduction in stress, blood pressure, heart rate 
and  
 other measures between the beginning and the end of a meditation  
 course might reflect the placebo effect: you expect something good 
to  
 happen, and it does. You can't really control for that, says 
Robert  
 Schneider of Marahishi University in Iowa, a center of research on  
 TM, but new studies come close. Although relaxation techniques 
and  
 TM both lower blood pressure, for instance, the effect of TM is 
twice  
 as big. Top hospitals from Stanford to Duke are convinced: they 
have  
 instituted meditation programs for patients suffering chronic pain  
 and other ailments.
 
 Afraid to sully their reputations, it took three decades for  
 scientists to ask the obvious: does meditation change the brain? 
But  
 in the 1990s British psychiatrist John Teasdale became intrigued 
with  
 mindfulness meditation, a Buddhist practice in which you sit 
quietly  
 and observe whatever thoughts and perceptions arise in your  
 consciousness, but without judging them. He and colleagues showed  
 that mindfulness training halves the rate at which people treated 
for  
 depression relapse. That set the stage of studies showing that 
mere  
 thought can alter brain activity in a long-lasting way that 
benefits  
 other forms of mental illness.
 
 Neuropsychologist Richard Davidson of the University of Wisconsin 
had  
 practiced meditation since the 1970s but didn't dare study it. 
Only  
 in the 1990s did he come out of the closet, he says. Now 
Buddhist  
 monks and yogis trek to his lab to have their brains scanned. They  
 look different from the brains of undergraduates (but then, whose  
 doesn't?), having stronger electrical waves of the kind that knit  
 together disparate thoughts into the grand enterprise of 
consciousness.
 
 Even in novices, meditation leaves its mark. An eight-week course 
in  
 compassion meditation, in which volunteers focus on the wish that 
all  
 beings be free from suffering, shifted brain 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Regulation and taxes: its here, its in gear, get used to it.

2007-11-29 Thread Bhairitu
new.morning wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 They're the ONLY thing that works, Barfitu.
   
 Free market definition:

 A market economy based on supply and demand with little or no 
 government control. A completely free market is an idealized form of a 
 market economy where buyers and sells are allowed to transact freely 
 (i.e. buy/sell/trade) based on a mutual agreement on price without
 
 state 
   
 intervention in the form of taxes, subsidies or regulation.


 What we've seen of free market economics so far has been a disaster.  
 It's only good for the asshole who wants to become the next Napoleon on 
 their block.

 

 Why are you fighting strawmen? 

 What markets in the US, or other developed countries, do not have some
 form of regulation, taxes and subsidies? Name some industries in the
 US economy that don't have any of those three things? Other than
 perhaps the underground economy -- selling pot perhaps.  And maybe
 some hookers. 

 And while many may debate the appropriate level of taxes, no 
 majority, not anyone of any stature, is promoting no taxes on
 anything. And few, only a few fringe extreme radicals, no one who is
 making or influencing serious policy, is advocating no regulation. No
 one is advocating, of any stature an end to regulation pf
 pharmacuticals, the food industry, licensing of doctors, lawyers, and
 teachers, regulation of financial markets and banks, airlines, public
 utilities, international, interstate and fair trade, currency,
 copyrights and patents, public safety, etc. 

 You are arguing against something that does not currently exist, and
 has not since about 1740 or before. Certainly the early US, with
 Hamilton etc,  envisioned an implemented lots of regulation and state
 intervention. Though clearly a lot less then than now.  Currently,
 some may call for less, some for more. No one but a few nuts are
 calling of nothing -- no taxes, no regulation, no subsidies for
 education across the entire spectrum of the economy.
That is what you would get if you let a lot of big business have its 
way.  So I rally against the talk a free markets because if you give 
big business an inch they'll take a mile.  And soon things would be 
worse than they are now in Amerika the land of corporatism. 

There are basically two kinds of government regulation: one to protect 
consumers against fraud and unsafe products and the other pull the 
ladder up regulation put in place so a big corporation can keep 
competitors off it's turf.   The latter is patently unfair and should 
not be allowed but they swoon legislators into passing them.

Here's what Thom Hartmann has to say on free markets:

The conservative belief in free markets is a bit like the Catholic 
Church's insistence that the Earth was at the center of the Solar System 
in the Twelfth Century. It's widely believed by those in power, those 
who challenge it are branded heretics and ridiculed, and it is wrong.

In actual fact, there is no such thing as a free market. Markets are 
the creation of government.

Governments provide a stable currency to make markets possible. They 
provide a legal infrastructure and court systems to enforce the 
contracts that make markets possible. They provide educated workforces 
through public education, and those workers show up at their places of 
business after traveling on public roads, rails, or airways provided by 
government. Businesses that use the free market are protected by 
police and fire departments provided by government, and send their 
communications - from phone to fax to internet - over lines that follow 
public rights-of-way maintained and protected by government.

And, most important, the rules of the game of business are defined by 
government. Any sports fan can tell you that football, baseball, or 
hockey without rules and referees would be a mess. Similarly, business 
without rules won't work.

More here:
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0312-08.htm





[FairfieldLife] Re: UFC Goons

2007-11-29 Thread shempmcgurk
Curtis:

Did you ever read Jasper Becker's Hungry Ghosts; Mao's Secret 
Famine?

http://tinyurl.com/2esomb





--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Angela,
 
 First of all I am fascinated with China.  What an interesting life 
you
 must have had there!  I know it only through Chinese friends and
 reading.  I went through a rather obsessive period of reading 
stories
 of people who lived through the Cultural Revolution and the life of
 Mao.  It kind of blew all my previous worries about how the TM
 organization operates out the window.  Not because there aren't
 parallels, there are.  But the scale and magnitude of what went down
 in China dwarfed the movement's influence so much I stopped caring
 about it so much.
 
 Now to your interesting story...
 
 When I used to practice martial arts I used to get paired with blue
 collar workers who had spent the day loading flats of plants as
 landscapers.  The first time one of them grabbed me it seemed like a
 supernatural force.  Their hands were so hardened from their years 
of
 labor that, compared to my lily whites,their grip was monstrous. As
 much as I train and weight lift, I never have achieved the natural
 strength of guys who earn a living with their bodies.  So my first
 thought is that this guy may have worked physically hard all his 
life.
 If this guy did massage for a living, he had arms and grip that 
could
 easily control, not only these young girls, but almost anyone who
 didn't spend all day, every day working physically.  Even at his
 advanced age those girls were no match.
 
 People who work outside can look much older than they are.  My
 Shanghaiese buddy is only 10 years older than I am but he looks like
 he could be my dad. He spent the Cultural Revolution on a farm and 
it
 aged him terribly.
 
 The first time my Judo teacher shoved me with his whole body, it was
 like a truck hit me.  Same with when he would pull me with his whole
 body engaged.  It seemed supernatural to me until I learned to do it
 myself.  
 
 Next these girls were probably not willing to really take on an 
elder
 after having committed a crime right?  The implication of really
 decking the old guy would probably bring some consequences.  So they
 may have been playing a bit rather then really going all out to 
resist
 him.  This guy would have had a different experience with some of 
the
 homegirls in my neighborhood who wouldn't have given him any 
respect.
 
 The different levels of blindness can account for an ability to
 recognize shapes enough to grab a thing as big as a human.
 
 Finally, due to the fact that it was almost as if it was a show for
 your benefit, I can't rule out that it was not a bit of street 
hustle.
  Although you sent someone over to him, if you hadn't, he might have
 approached you.  The chances that you would be a higher paying
 customer than a Chinese person makes such a display very 
worthwhile. 
 I have had a team of street hustlers in DC approach me in a
 choreographed sequence, contrived spontaneity.  It is quite 
convincing
 and dangerous.  One lady in the group was pushing a baby in a baby
 carriage, how disarming is that! 
 
 None of my speculations makes your story less interesting Angela. I 
am
 not attempting to  explain what happened, just some possibilities
 that come to my mind. Thanks for asking for our POVs on this 
personal
 experience.   
 
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
 mailander111@ wrote:
 
  I saw a pretty amazing guy in China do some things I'd have 
thought
 good work on the part of the special effects people in a movie.  
I'll
 describe briefly what he did and then I'd like your thoughts on what
 that was all about.
  
  I was sitting on a bench with a student in downtown Zhenjiang, a
 crowded place, when I noticed a guy starting to cross the square.  
He
 was very very old.  No telling how old, but eighties at least if not
 nineties.  And there was something strange about the way he
 walked--like he was in a different movie from the rest of us in 
which
 time moved more slowly or like he was walking on the moon where
 there's less gravity or under water.  
  
  When he got opposite  us, he was suddenly involved  with three
 strong young girls, late teens, early twenties.  He was juggling
 them--it's the only way I can put it.  They tried to get away.  He'd
 hold two of them, one in each hand, and the third one would try to
 run.  Then he'd grab her, letting another one loose, who tried to 
run,
 but he'd grab her, letting another one loose, and so on.  He made it
 look effortless. 
  
  Finally the girls dropped to their knees and begged him to let 
them
 go.  And he gave a little speech, which my student translated for 
me.
  Apparently, he'd caught those girls picking someone's pocket, and 
he
 was giving them a lecture about the social contract, and how you
 couldn't run a society with their attitude, and what would happen to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: UFC Goons

2007-11-29 Thread Angela Mailander
Are you not quite believing my story?

Those girls were big strong girls who had also done their share of physical 
labor and they worked hard and pulled no punches I could see. They were afraid 
that the scene would bring the cops and they were doing all they could to get 
out of Dodge.  

The man was as old as he looked. I went to see him twice a week  after that for 
two years and got to know him very well.  We had long conversations and became 
good friends. 

A show for my benefit would not be beyond to the Chinese to try to pull off.  
And they're good at it.  But, like I said, I got to know this man well.  And 
so, no, this was not street theater.   At least not in the sense of something 
almost fraudulent, as you're suggesting. 

How blind was he? He was blind from birth.   There's a book by a Frenchman who 
was blinded in an accident when he was a child.  I forget how old he was.  He 
became one of the important organizers of the French Resistance against the 
Germans.  I'd read that book before going to China, so when I met Wu Zhaoqi, I 
told him the story.  He recognized some of those experiences of light in the 
head.  But exactly how blind was Wu Zhaoqi?  He had to have someone point his 
hand at the candle, but then he could put it out from across the room.  He was 
a simple and very humble man--the sort of humility I have never seen in the 
West.



curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   
Angela,
 
 First of all I am fascinated with China.  What an interesting life you
 must have had there!  I know it only through Chinese friends and
 reading.  I went through a rather obsessive period of reading stories
 of people who lived through the Cultural Revolution and the life of
 Mao.  It kind of blew all my previous worries about how the TM
 organization operates out the window.  Not because there aren't
 parallels, there are.  But the scale and magnitude of what went down
 in China dwarfed the movement's influence so much I stopped caring
 about it so much.
 
 Now to your interesting story...
 
 When I used to practice martial arts I used to get paired with blue
 collar workers who had spent the day loading flats of plants as
 landscapers.  The first time one of them grabbed me it seemed like a
 supernatural force.  Their hands were so hardened from their years of
 labor that, compared to my lily whites,their grip was monstrous. As
 much as I train and weight lift, I never have achieved the natural
 strength of guys who earn a living with their bodies.  So my first
 thought is that this guy may have worked physically hard all his life.
 If this guy did massage for a living, he had arms and grip that could
 easily control, not only these young girls, but almost anyone who
 didn't spend all day, every day working physically.  Even at his
 advanced age those girls were no match.
 
 People who work outside can look much older than they are.  My
 Shanghaiese buddy is only 10 years older than I am but he looks like
 he could be my dad. He spent the Cultural Revolution on a farm and it
 aged him terribly.
 
 The first time my Judo teacher shoved me with his whole body, it was
 like a truck hit me.  Same with when he would pull me with his whole
 body engaged.  It seemed supernatural to me until I learned to do it
 myself.  
 
 Next these girls were probably not willing to really take on an elder
 after having committed a crime right?  The implication of really
 decking the old guy would probably bring some consequences.  So they
 may have been playing a bit rather then really going all out to resist
 him.  This guy would have had a different experience with some of the
 homegirls in my neighborhood who wouldn't have given him any respect.
 
 The different levels of blindness can account for an ability to
 recognize shapes enough to grab a thing as big as a human.
 
 Finally, due to the fact that it was almost as if it was a show for
 your benefit, I can't rule out that it was not a bit of street hustle.
  Although you sent someone over to him, if you hadn't, he might have
 approached you.  The chances that you would be a higher paying
 customer than a Chinese person makes such a display very worthwhile. 
 I have had a team of street hustlers in DC approach me in a
 choreographed sequence, contrived spontaneity.  It is quite convincing
 and dangerous.  One lady in the group was pushing a baby in a baby
 carriage, how disarming is that! 
 
 None of my speculations makes your story less interesting Angela. I am
 not attempting to  explain what happened, just some possibilities
 that come to my mind. Thanks for asking for our POVs on this personal
 experience.   
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I saw a pretty amazing guy in China do some things I'd have thought
 good work on the part of the special effects people in a movie.  I'll
 describe briefly what he did and then I'd like your thoughts on what
 that was 

[FairfieldLife] Nutball Pat Robertson on Yoga

2007-11-29 Thread do.rflex


Wednesday's 700 Club featured a question about the Christian view of
yoga. A concerned viewer asked, Does it really have its origins in
evil? Pat Robertson gave the verdict: Yes! According to Pat,
stretching is fine, but by repeating common yoga mantras, you are
actually praying to Hindu gods Vishnu and Krishna and you're not even
aware of it! Check out the clip below and tell us what you think. Is
it wrong for Christians to practice yoga?

Video clip here:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/11/29/pat-robertson-not-down-wi_n_74527.html


The feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about
a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to
leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft,
destroy capitalism and become lesbians. 

~~  Pat Robertson








[FairfieldLife] Re: Nutball Pat Robertson on Yoga

2007-11-29 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 Wednesday's 700 Club featured a question about the Christian view 
of
 yoga. A concerned viewer asked, Does it really have its origins in
 evil? Pat Robertson gave the verdict: Yes! According to Pat,
 stretching is fine, but by repeating common yoga mantras, you are
 actually praying to Hindu gods Vishnu and Krishna and you're not 
even
 aware of it! Check out the clip below and tell us what you think. Is
 it wrong for Christians to practice yoga?
 
 Video clip here:
 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/11/29/pat-robertson-not-down-
wi_n_74527.html
 
 
 The feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is 
about
 a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to
 leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft,
 destroy capitalism and become lesbians. 
 
 ~~  Pat Robertson



Pat Robertson is the gift that keeps on giving.

Here's a whole bunch of other wonderful quotes that make the above 
seem almost Gandhi-esque in comparison:

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Pat_Robertson





[FairfieldLife] Re: Nutball Pat Robertson on Yoga

2007-11-29 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote:
 
  
  
  Wednesday's 700 Club featured a question about the Christian 
view 
 of
  yoga. A concerned viewer asked, Does it really have its origins 
in
  evil? Pat Robertson gave the verdict: Yes! According to Pat,
  stretching is fine, but by repeating common yoga mantras, you are
  actually praying to Hindu gods Vishnu and Krishna and you're not 
 even
  aware of it! Check out the clip below and tell us what you think. 
Is
  it wrong for Christians to practice yoga?
  
  Video clip here:
  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/11/29/pat-robertson-not-down-
 wi_n_74527.html
  
  
  The feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is 
 about
  a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women 
to
  leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft,
  destroy capitalism and become lesbians. 
  
  ~~  Pat Robertson
 
 
 
 Pat Robertson is the gift that keeps on giving.
 
 Here's a whole bunch of other wonderful quotes that make the above 
 seem almost Gandhi-esque in comparison:
 
 http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Pat_Robertson


**

No evangelical supports the idea of abortion, with the glaring 
exception of the cynical Robertson, who thinks it's OK for the 
Chinese. Why would he think that? Apparently because he has business 
interests in China and doesn't want to piss of the Chinese govt:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3944/is_200106/ai_n8971465

Robertson, who acknowledged that he has business interests in China, 
went on to say that China suffers from tremendous unemployment and 
is plagued with antiquated factories owned by the government that 
will have to be shut down, spawning more loss of jobs. And the 
leadership is like on a teeter-totter board, he said. They can fall 
off if the population gets too restive. So, I think that right now 
they are doing what they have to do. I don't agree with forced 
abortion, but I don't think the United States needs to interfere with 
what they're doing internally in this regard. 





[FairfieldLife] Re: What is too-too-five-sev'n?

2007-11-29 Thread Richard J. Williams
 What is too-too-five-sev'n?

Alex Stanley wrote: 
 Why ask someone to do a Google search for you and sit 
 there waiting for the answer when you can simply do the 
 Google search yourself and have the answer in a matter 
 of seconds?

Why ask someone to do a Google search for you and sit 
there waiting for the answer when you can simply do the 
Google search yourself and have the answer in a matter 
of seconds? You seem to have plenty of time on your hand
these days, Alex.




[FairfieldLife] Re: What is too-too-five-sev'n?

2007-11-29 Thread Richard J. Williams
cardemaister wrote:
 What is too-too-five-sev'n?

So, you don't have all the answers. 

Why does the six fear the seven?



[FairfieldLife] Re: UFC Goons

2007-11-29 Thread Richard J. Williams
TurquoiseB wrote:
 Yep. The parallels between belief in magical
 abilities through siddhis and the belief in
 magical abilities through the martial arts
 is a strong one. As is the posturing we see
 in those who still believe the PR despite
 decades in the study without ever seeing even
 one demonstration of the myths.
 
 As a general rule in the martial arts, anyone
 who talks about how well they can kick ass can't.  :-)
 
 Pretty much the same phenomenon as those who
 talk a lot about their darshan and how power-
 fully they can affect others' spiritual progress.
 The more talk, the less effect IMO. 
 
 The few teachers I've encountered who seemed to
 really have some extraordinary abilities going 
 for them -- either in the martial arts or in the 
 realm of consciousness -- were pretty quiet about 
 it. It was about action, not talk. And *after*
 the action, they never mentioned it again or
 tried to milk it for any PR or credit. They
 just did their jobs.

Freddy Rama, your teacher, was a black belt! 




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What is too-too-five-sev'n?

2007-11-29 Thread gullible fool

Seven could be satanic. Better refer this important
question to Pat Robertson.

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  What is too-too-five-sev'n?
 
 So, you don't have all the answers. 
 
 Why does the six fear the seven?
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: UFC Goons

2007-11-29 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Are you not quite believing my story?

Truth is often stranger than fiction Angela, and you were there, I
wasn't.  It sounds like a fascinating relationship with an amazing
person.  

 
 Those girls were big strong girls who had also done their share of
physical labor and they worked hard and pulled no punches I could see.
They were afraid that the scene would bring the cops and they were
doing all they could to get out of Dodge.  
 
 The man was as old as he looked. I went to see him twice a week 
after that for two years and got to know him very well.  We had long
conversations and became good friends. 
 
 A show for my benefit would not be beyond to the Chinese to try to
pull off.  And they're good at it.  But, like I said, I got to know
this man well.  And so, no, this was not street theater.   At least
not in the sense of something almost fraudulent, as you're suggesting. 
 
 How blind was he? He was blind from birth.   There's a book by a
Frenchman who was blinded in an accident when he was a child.  I
forget how old he was.  He became one of the important organizers of
the French Resistance against the Germans.  I'd read that book before
going to China, so when I met Wu Zhaoqi, I told him the story.  He
recognized some of those experiences of light in the head.  But
exactly how blind was Wu Zhaoqi?  He had to have someone point his
hand at the candle, but then he could put it out from across the room.
 He was a simple and very humble man--the sort of humility I have
never seen in the West.
 
 
 
 curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Angela,
  
  First of all I am fascinated with China.  What an interesting life you
  must have had there!  I know it only through Chinese friends and
  reading.  I went through a rather obsessive period of reading stories
  of people who lived through the Cultural Revolution and the life of
  Mao.  It kind of blew all my previous worries about how the TM
  organization operates out the window.  Not because there aren't
  parallels, there are.  But the scale and magnitude of what went down
  in China dwarfed the movement's influence so much I stopped caring
  about it so much.
  
  Now to your interesting story...
  
  When I used to practice martial arts I used to get paired with blue
  collar workers who had spent the day loading flats of plants as
  landscapers.  The first time one of them grabbed me it seemed like a
  supernatural force.  Their hands were so hardened from their years of
  labor that, compared to my lily whites,their grip was monstrous. As
  much as I train and weight lift, I never have achieved the natural
  strength of guys who earn a living with their bodies.  So my first
  thought is that this guy may have worked physically hard all his life.
  If this guy did massage for a living, he had arms and grip that could
  easily control, not only these young girls, but almost anyone who
  didn't spend all day, every day working physically.  Even at his
  advanced age those girls were no match.
  
  People who work outside can look much older than they are.  My
  Shanghaiese buddy is only 10 years older than I am but he looks like
  he could be my dad. He spent the Cultural Revolution on a farm and it
  aged him terribly.
  
  The first time my Judo teacher shoved me with his whole body, it was
  like a truck hit me.  Same with when he would pull me with his whole
  body engaged.  It seemed supernatural to me until I learned to do it
  myself.  
  
  Next these girls were probably not willing to really take on an elder
  after having committed a crime right?  The implication of really
  decking the old guy would probably bring some consequences.  So they
  may have been playing a bit rather then really going all out to resist
  him.  This guy would have had a different experience with some of the
  homegirls in my neighborhood who wouldn't have given him any respect.
  
  The different levels of blindness can account for an ability to
  recognize shapes enough to grab a thing as big as a human.
  
  Finally, due to the fact that it was almost as if it was a show for
  your benefit, I can't rule out that it was not a bit of street hustle.
   Although you sent someone over to him, if you hadn't, he might have
  approached you.  The chances that you would be a higher paying
  customer than a Chinese person makes such a display very worthwhile. 
  I have had a team of street hustlers in DC approach me in a
  choreographed sequence, contrived spontaneity.  It is quite convincing
  and dangerous.  One lady in the group was pushing a baby in a baby
  carriage, how disarming is that! 
  
  None of my speculations makes your story less interesting Angela. I am
  not attempting to  explain what happened, just some possibilities
  that come to my mind. Thanks for asking for our POVs on this personal
  experience.   
  
  --- In 

[FairfieldLife] Re: UFC Goons

2007-11-29 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Curtis:
 
 Did you ever read Jasper Becker's Hungry Ghosts; Mao's Secret 
 Famine?

Oh yeah!  Really a powerful book.  I also dug the one by his personal
physician.  The guy lived like a rock star with hundreds of groupies
at dances for him every night.  But he wouldn't wash or brush his
green teeth!

There are quite a few first person accounts of people who survived the
Cultural Revolution whose titles I have forgotten.  

 
 http://tinyurl.com/2esomb
 
 
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
  Angela,
  
  First of all I am fascinated with China.  What an interesting life 
 you
  must have had there!  I know it only through Chinese friends and
  reading.  I went through a rather obsessive period of reading 
 stories
  of people who lived through the Cultural Revolution and the life of
  Mao.  It kind of blew all my previous worries about how the TM
  organization operates out the window.  Not because there aren't
  parallels, there are.  But the scale and magnitude of what went down
  in China dwarfed the movement's influence so much I stopped caring
  about it so much.
  
  Now to your interesting story...
  
  When I used to practice martial arts I used to get paired with blue
  collar workers who had spent the day loading flats of plants as
  landscapers.  The first time one of them grabbed me it seemed like a
  supernatural force.  Their hands were so hardened from their years 
 of
  labor that, compared to my lily whites,their grip was monstrous. As
  much as I train and weight lift, I never have achieved the natural
  strength of guys who earn a living with their bodies.  So my first
  thought is that this guy may have worked physically hard all his 
 life.
  If this guy did massage for a living, he had arms and grip that 
 could
  easily control, not only these young girls, but almost anyone who
  didn't spend all day, every day working physically.  Even at his
  advanced age those girls were no match.
  
  People who work outside can look much older than they are.  My
  Shanghaiese buddy is only 10 years older than I am but he looks like
  he could be my dad. He spent the Cultural Revolution on a farm and 
 it
  aged him terribly.
  
  The first time my Judo teacher shoved me with his whole body, it was
  like a truck hit me.  Same with when he would pull me with his whole
  body engaged.  It seemed supernatural to me until I learned to do it
  myself.  
  
  Next these girls were probably not willing to really take on an 
 elder
  after having committed a crime right?  The implication of really
  decking the old guy would probably bring some consequences.  So they
  may have been playing a bit rather then really going all out to 
 resist
  him.  This guy would have had a different experience with some of 
 the
  homegirls in my neighborhood who wouldn't have given him any 
 respect.
  
  The different levels of blindness can account for an ability to
  recognize shapes enough to grab a thing as big as a human.
  
  Finally, due to the fact that it was almost as if it was a show for
  your benefit, I can't rule out that it was not a bit of street 
 hustle.
   Although you sent someone over to him, if you hadn't, he might have
  approached you.  The chances that you would be a higher paying
  customer than a Chinese person makes such a display very 
 worthwhile. 
  I have had a team of street hustlers in DC approach me in a
  choreographed sequence, contrived spontaneity.  It is quite 
 convincing
  and dangerous.  One lady in the group was pushing a baby in a baby
  carriage, how disarming is that! 
  
  None of my speculations makes your story less interesting Angela. I 
 am
  not attempting to  explain what happened, just some possibilities
  that come to my mind. Thanks for asking for our POVs on this 
 personal
  experience.   
  
  
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
  mailander111@ wrote:
  
   I saw a pretty amazing guy in China do some things I'd have 
 thought
  good work on the part of the special effects people in a movie.  
 I'll
  describe briefly what he did and then I'd like your thoughts on what
  that was all about.
   
   I was sitting on a bench with a student in downtown Zhenjiang, a
  crowded place, when I noticed a guy starting to cross the square.  
 He
  was very very old.  No telling how old, but eighties at least if not
  nineties.  And there was something strange about the way he
  walked--like he was in a different movie from the rest of us in 
 which
  time moved more slowly or like he was walking on the moon where
  there's less gravity or under water.  
   
   When he got opposite  us, he was suddenly involved  with three
  strong young girls, late teens, early twenties.  He was juggling
  them--it's the only way I can put it.  They tried to get away.  He'd
  hold two of them, one in each hand, and the 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: UFC Goons

2007-11-29 Thread Angela Mailander
To Deltablues:
I understand your skepticism.  Vaj posted a story about some dude whom cameras 
couldn't capture on film because of some magical properties of his body.  Then 
he vanished into thin air in a blast of light.  I don't believe a word of it. 

Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   
TurquoiseB wrote:
  Yep. The parallels between belief in magical
  abilities through siddhis and the belief in
  magical abilities through the martial arts
  is a strong one. As is the posturing we see
  in those who still believe the PR despite
  decades in the study without ever seeing even
  one demonstration of the myths.
  
  As a general rule in the martial arts, anyone
  who talks about how well they can kick ass can't.  :-)
  
  Pretty much the same phenomenon as those who
  talk a lot about their darshan and how power-
  fully they can affect others' spiritual progress.
  The more talk, the less effect IMO. 
  
  The few teachers I've encountered who seemed to
  really have some extraordinary abilities going 
  for them -- either in the martial arts or in the 
  realm of consciousness -- were pretty quiet about 
  it. It was about action, not talk. And *after*
  the action, they never mentioned it again or
  tried to milk it for any PR or credit. They
  just did their jobs.
 
 Freddy Rama, your teacher, was a black belt! 
 
 
 
   

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[FairfieldLife] Firefighters asked to report people who express discontent with the government

2007-11-29 Thread Bhairitu
The latest on the War on America Citizens:
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Homeland_Security_turns_firefighters_into_domestic_1129.html

Welcome to the gulag, comrade.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Everybody's a Dr. these days

2007-11-29 Thread Peter

--- boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 
 I've known Bill Sands for over 20 yrs and don't need
 to research him -
 he's a nice guy but I don't consider a PhD in vedic
 science from MUM
 to be a real PhD.

Well, it might be. You'd have to look at the
curriculum  and the dissertation. I don't think you
can automatically dismiss a doctorate from MIU/MUM. i
know their neuroscience doctorate was quite legit in
the 1980's. 



 
 
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: UFC Goons

2007-11-29 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 UFC 1-6 were the best! What a shock to all the
 karate/gung-fu one-punch-kills-all dudes. That's why
 I'm surprised that there are martial arts afficinados
 out there that still believe in some superduper secret
 school of one punch destroys all. Really quite silly.

So Peter uses reasoning to deduce that if a very hard strike is given 
to the adam's apple, or the testicles, or the knees, or ankles, 
stomach, or break the jaw, that it is not dangerous and just carry on 
as if nothing happened. You and Curtis and the goons on UFC should get 
on stage with the Republican candidates for president that still 
believe the Earth was created 6,000 years ago. 
Get real imagine a hard strike to any number of places and 
understand --- you could die or be crippled temporarily. One strike is 
all it takes, and if you have not trained with that in mind...you are 
not a martial artist. Shotokan style Kmiti style competition is the 
only way to test a martial art.  Other types of competition are mud-
wrestling.

OffWorld



[FairfieldLife] Re: UFC Goons

2007-11-29 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   You cannot test martial arts without using a Kmiti Shotokan 
style 
  competition.
 
 I am a little unclear on your point.

The point cannot be clearer:

There are a dozen places such as you adams apple - on the human body 
where a sharp blow could easily kill you. You cannot easily defend 
them all at once. You MUST be able to block a strike, and strike one 
of those points very hard. 
Anything else is a joke and you would get killed using anything else 
in a real situation.

You cannot test martial arts without using a Kmiti Shotokan style
competition. 

If any of those UFC goons came to a Kmiti fight most of them would be 
humbled completely (and some bloody noses). The only legitimate test 
of the efficacy of a martial art is Kmiti, where the fight is stopped 
after a strike. Best out of three strikes.

Let's see them come to a Kmiti competition? ? ?
C'mon, let's see if they are really as good as you say they are. 
Why won't they come? There are such competitions that are open to 
others, but your goons won't come because they are not true martial 
artists who train every muscle and cell... to block...and and then 
cripple.

 Shotokan has dominated such competitions in the past when other 
forms turned up to fight. Kmiti is the ONLY true test of a martial 
art. The rest is worse than mud- wrestling because it doesn't test 
anything. You have to stop the fight after one strike for it to be a 
legitimate test. One strike could easily kill someone, therefore 
breeching someone's defences makes your point. The fight stops. Best 
out of three wins.

All you are proving is your usual incapacity for rational thinking 
(as you do when you criticize something proven by scientific research 
published in peer reviewed journals ). You are making a fool of 
yourself if you think those goons of yours are kneeing someone in the 
face over and over again with full force. ROTFLMFA ! People would die 
if what you are watching was real ! It is all a stupid ratings show. 
Nothing more.

OffWorld





[FairfieldLife] Archaeoastronomy

2007-11-29 Thread bob_brigante
http://tinyurl.com/2en6bt

http://www.globalgoodnews.com/cultural-news-a.html?
art=11962732365078099


Dr Kumar's research presented the sacred sites and temples of India—
which is also called Veda Bhumi Bharat*—as correlated with the 
neurological centres in the human brain and nervous system, through 
the scientific perspective of the physiology as an expression of the 
Vedic Literature. 

Dr Kumar said what controls the entire body is, of course, our 
brain. 'So from here, our discovery can start, and we are just going 
to relate the geography of Bharat, India, with the brain.' 

Dr Kumar said that the basis of this correlation is that Maharishi 
tells us that Rk Veda is at the basis of the entire functioning of 
the physiology. From this we can get the simple inference, or 
knowledge that Rk Veda also gives rise to the geography of Bharat. So 
they have a very common basis in the Unified Field. 'We can very 
beautifully and simply infer that Bharat and the human nervous system 
have Rk Veda as their common basis. If so, if two are having a common 
basis, then it's quite natural that those two will be related also,' 
said Dr Kumar. 

Dr Kumar pointed out that many years ago in one of his books, 
Maharishi had written that the physical shape of India is like the 
spiralling shape of Rk Veda: the total potential of Natural Law has 
expressed itself in the shape of India. Maharishi had written that Rk 
Veda forms the physiology of India; Rk Veda gives a physiological 
structure to India. India represents the holistic structure of Rk 
Veda, in which reside the Devas, the administrators or impulses of 
intelligence responsible for the administration of the universe. 

'This clarion call was clearly given by Maharishi,' said Dr 
Kumar, 'and this was a great inspiration, and the discovery actually 
took place a few years ago. Maharishi often used to just say that all 
the Devatas are present in Bharat. And Maharishi and Maharaja Nader 
Raam had such beautiful discussions about Veda and physiology. 
Maharaja Nader Raam used to say, ''All the Devatas are in the 
brain.'' ' 

'So it was just a simple correlation that occurred,' said Dr Kumar. 
The entire discussion was given out on the Maharishi Channel, long 
ago when it started, and Dr Kumar just had to correlate between those 
beautiful timeless words. 

The whole holistic functioning of human physiology is controlled by 
the human nervous system, and that is nothing but a reflection of Rk 
Veda, as Maharaja Nader Raam has clearly brought about. 

'So now here we are with the vision of Veda in Vishwa [the 
universe],' said Dr Kumar. 'This is a superimposition analogy between 
the outline of Bharat and the brain.' He showed the outline of modern 
India and ancient Bharat. 'Bharat is not, as we see now, politically 
divided by humans, but ancient Bharat has an exact shape of the 
brain. Here you find that the outline of the sagittal section—that 
means the brain cut through the middle into the left and right halves—
that shape of the brain in the sagittal section and the shape of 
ancient undivided India, is almost the same. This is just a starting 
point from which we'll be seeing further miraculous correlations in 
each and every part of India and the brain.' 

Dr Kumar then spoke about the sacred pilgrimage sites in the 
geography of the world, and the neurological centres in the human 
nervous system. He mentioned a new field called archaeo-astronomy, 
which is a very precise correlation between the various heavenly 
bodies in the cosmos, and certain specific sites in the geography of 
the world. So these have been known since time immemorial; in all the 
civilizations, this knowledge has been there. 

'If you take the ancient traditions, the Mayan tradition, Egyptians 
or Islam, everywhere the emphasis has been given to certain specific 
geographical points, and here we can see a beautiful correlation by 
the cosmos—the cosmic powers concentrated in certain spots in the 
planet Earth—and these have been marked by various civilizations and 
different names: it could be temples, it could be mosques, it could 
be certain spots geographically marked as you will see the Stonehenge 
Head Stones and Pyramids, so all these have been having correlation 
with the cosmos.' 

And when our human physiology goes to these places at a particular 
time, that's very important, Dr Kumar said. At the time of particular 
astronomical conjunctions, an enlivenment takes place. 'And we have a 
very fascinating discovery, an insight brought by Maharishi, that the 
reverse also could be true. It's not only the cosmos influencing the 
earth, . . . the brain, our collective consciousness, our prayers, 
our meditation, our rituals, can influence the whole cosmos. . . .' 

Dr Kumar said that India, or even our human brain, is a cosmic 
switchboard, from which you can operate the whole universe; this is a 
beautiful reality now. We have here a simple wave created by the 
Vedic Pandits, 

[FairfieldLife] Re: UFC Goons

2007-11-29 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Samadhi Is Much Closer Than 
You Think -- Really! -- It's A No-Brainer. Who'd've Thunk It? 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So, what is the redeeming value of this demonstration, this thread -
- the
 flagrantly ruthless wanton and rampant beastiality of moral 
retards, from
 whom we must learn to defend ourselves?

Pay attention:

True karate is this: that in daily life one's mind and body be 
trained and developed in a spirit of humility, and that in critical 
times, one be devoted utterly to the cause of justice.
--Gichin Funakoshi


OffWorld




 
 *Of all that anyone leading or teaching has to convey, the most
 valuable thing to cultivate and convey to others is a moral
 conscience. Only such persons deserve to lead others, in any 
capacity.
 Anything less is a menace to society.
 *
 
 On 11/29/07, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ 
wrote:
 
   UFC 1-6 were the best! What a shock to all the
   karate/gung-fu one-punch-kills-all dudes. That's why
   I'm surprised that there are martial arts afficinados
   out there that still believe in some superduper secret
   school of one punch destroys all. Really quite silly.
 
  So Peter uses reasoning to deduce that if a very hard strike is 
given
  to the adam's apple, or the testicles, or the knees, or ankles,
  stomach, or break the jaw, that it is not dangerous and just 
carry on
  as if nothing happened. You and Curtis and the goons on UFC 
should get
  on stage with the Republican candidates for president that still
  believe the Earth was created 6,000 years ago.
  Get real imagine a hard strike to any number of places and
  understand --- you could die or be crippled temporarily. One 
strike is
  all it takes, and if you have not trained with that in mind...you 
are
  not a martial artist. Shotokan style Kmiti style competition is 
the
  only way to test a martial art.  Other types of competition are 
mud-
  wrestling.
 
  OffWorld





Re: [FairfieldLife] IMDB Top Ranked Films and Eposodic Cable/TV

2007-11-29 Thread Bhairitu
new.morning wrote:
 For film and eposodic TV buffs,

 There is  a list of top 250 films, with Godfather top ranked at 9.1 /
 10. But there is  apparently no list top for eposodic TV / cable
 shows. But Sopranos is the highest ranked that I can find, at 9.5.
 Deadwood 9.3. Rome and Entourage 9.2 (which is an interesting show).

 Does anyone know a way to list all top eposodic TV? (there is a tv-
 mini-series one, but they do not include cable eposodic, like Sopranos).

 And should great eposodic be higher rated than great films? Opinions.

 For eposidic fans, how would you rank the series you have watch / are
 watching? And why.

 btw, HBO, and some Showtime series, pear season (typically  6-discs)
 have had 50% price cuts at BestBuy and on Amazon. Rome, Deadwood etc,
 each year, selling at around $40 down from $85 --  recent regular
 price at both outlets. 
How's that HD-DVD collection?

Two very top rated shows for me are on Showtime: Dexter and 
Brotherhood.  Brotherhood is one of the best episodic series I've ever 
seen and doesn't resort to gimmicks to keep you watching.  It's just a 
well told tale about two brothers one who is a Rhode Island state 
assemblyman and the other who is a gangster.  That's all the needed for 
a gimmick.  And it is shot in Rhode Island not Canada standing in.

Dexter is just a great dark comedy about a police forensics guy (played 
by Michael C. Hall of Six Feet Under) who is a serial killer but only 
kills people who have gotten away with crimes.  Excellent acting, 
directing and writing.   This season we got Keith Caradine as a quirky 
FBI agent and the introduction of a new love interest for Dexter, the 
vampish Lila, charmingly played by Jaime Murray (who definitely boosted 
ratngs among male viewers).  It was also fun watching C.S. Lee play his 
role on Dexter and then a brief role but different role on NBC's Chuck.

For a lightweight series I really like Reaper on CW.  The pilot was 
done by Kevin Smith and the series is about a Gen X'er who works at a 
store like Lowe's and his parents sold his soul to the Devil who is 
apply played by Ray Wise (Twin Peaks).  Smith continues as story 
consultant and his touch is definitely there.  The goofiest Gen X'er of 
the bunch is actually the one that girls and had a relationship with a 
woman who works in the DA's office.  We also get the lovely Missy 
Peregrym in a reversed role chasing after the lead character.  Great 
comedy and well worth a watch:
http://www.cwtv.com/shows/reaper

Of course I'm still hooked on watching Pushing Daisies too.  
Unfortunately due to the strike looks like we're only going to get a 
couple more episodes for the time being.  But the same is true for a lot 
of shows with 24 having been put off indefinitely (darn, I wanted to 
see how Janine Garafalo was going to fit in as an FBI agent).  
Fortunately we got all of the Heroes episodes for this season and all 
the episodes of Jericho second season are in the the can ready to go.

And of course I'm waiting for the final season of Battlestar Galactica 
to start up though a little miffed that Comcast didn't get Sci-Fi HD in 
the line-up even though it was among the top networks requested by their 
viewers.  I hate watching it in blurry vision (SD) though they usually 
play it delay a few weeks on Universal HD.







[FairfieldLife] What is five-five-one-seven-eight?

2007-11-29 Thread shempmcgurk
Hint: key it into your calculator and then turn it upside-down...



[FairfieldLife] Re: UFC Goons

2007-11-29 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
You cannot test martial arts without using a Kmiti Shotokan 
 style 
   competition.
  
  I am a little unclear on your point.
 
 The point cannot be clearer:
 
 There are a dozen places such as you adams apple - on the human 
body 
 where a sharp blow could easily kill you.




I just finished seeing the DVD of the movie Waitress directed by 
Adrienne Shelley.  When I got to the bonus features section, there 
one one feature titled Adrienne Shelley, in memorium.  So I googled 
her name and it turns out that this 40-year old 
mother/director/actress was in her Greenwich Village apartment and 
the 19-year-old fellow in the apartment directly below her was making 
too much noise so she went down to confront him, they exchanged 
words, she slapped him (according to him), he punched her once and 
killed her...

So it can, indeed, take one well-placed punch...

See: http://tinyurl.com/yg98xe






 You cannot easily defend 
 them all at once. You MUST be able to block a strike, and strike 
one 
 of those points very hard. 
 Anything else is a joke and you would get killed using anything 
else 
 in a real situation.
 
 You cannot test martial arts without using a Kmiti Shotokan style
 competition. 
 
 If any of those UFC goons came to a Kmiti fight most of them would 
be 
 humbled completely (and some bloody noses). The only legitimate 
test 
 of the efficacy of a martial art is Kmiti, where the fight is 
stopped 
 after a strike. Best out of three strikes.
 
 Let's see them come to a Kmiti competition? ? ?
 C'mon, let's see if they are really as good as you say they are. 
 Why won't they come? There are such competitions that are open to 
 others, but your goons won't come because they are not true martial 
 artists who train every muscle and cell... to block...and and then 
 cripple.
 
  Shotokan has dominated such competitions in the past when other 
 forms turned up to fight. Kmiti is the ONLY true test of a martial 
 art. The rest is worse than mud- wrestling because it doesn't test 
 anything. You have to stop the fight after one strike for it to be 
a 
 legitimate test. One strike could easily kill someone, therefore 
 breeching someone's defences makes your point. The fight stops. 
Best 
 out of three wins.
 
 All you are proving is your usual incapacity for rational thinking 
 (as you do when you criticize something proven by scientific 
research 
 published in peer reviewed journals ). You are making a fool of 
 yourself if you think those goons of yours are kneeing someone in 
the 
 face over and over again with full force. ROTFLMFA ! People would 
die 
 if what you are watching was real ! It is all a stupid ratings 
show. 
 Nothing more.
 
 OffWorld





[FairfieldLife] Re: IMDB Top Ranked Films and Eposodic Cable/TV

2007-11-29 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 For film and eposodic TV buffs,
 
 There is  a list of top 250 films, with Godfather top ranked at 
9.1 /
 10. But there is  apparently no list top for eposodic TV / cable
 shows. But Sopranos is the highest ranked that I can find, at 9.5.
 Deadwood 9.3. Rome and Entourage 9.2 (which is an interesting show).
 
 Does anyone know a way to list all top eposodic TV? (there is a tv-
 mini-series one, but they do not include cable eposodic, like 
Sopranos).
 



Here's one:

http://www.classic-tv.com/top100/

Although, right off the top, I disagree with it because Seinfeld is 
not #1...







 And should great eposodic be higher rated than great films? 
Opinions.
 
 For eposidic fans, how would you rank the series you have watch / 
are
 watching? And why.
 
 btw, HBO, and some Showtime series, pear season (typically  6-discs)
 have had 50% price cuts at BestBuy and on Amazon. Rome, Deadwood 
etc,
 each year, selling at around $40 down from $85 --  recent regular
 price at both outlets.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: UFC Goons

2007-11-29 Thread Samadhi Is Much Closer Than You Think -- Really! -- It's A No-Brainer. Who'd've Thunk It?
So, what is the redeeming value of this demonstration, this thread -- the
flagrantly ruthless wanton and rampant beastiality of moral retards, from
whom we must learn to defend ourselves?

*Of all that anyone leading or teaching has to convey, the most
valuable thing to cultivate and convey to others is a moral
conscience. Only such persons deserve to lead others, in any capacity.
Anything less is a menace to society.
*

On 11/29/07, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  UFC 1-6 were the best! What a shock to all the
  karate/gung-fu one-punch-kills-all dudes. That's why
  I'm surprised that there are martial arts afficinados
  out there that still believe in some superduper secret
  school of one punch destroys all. Really quite silly.

 So Peter uses reasoning to deduce that if a very hard strike is given
 to the adam's apple, or the testicles, or the knees, or ankles,
 stomach, or break the jaw, that it is not dangerous and just carry on
 as if nothing happened. You and Curtis and the goons on UFC should get
 on stage with the Republican candidates for president that still
 believe the Earth was created 6,000 years ago.
 Get real imagine a hard strike to any number of places and
 understand --- you could die or be crippled temporarily. One strike is
 all it takes, and if you have not trained with that in mind...you are
 not a martial artist. Shotokan style Kmiti style competition is the
 only way to test a martial art.  Other types of competition are mud-
 wrestling.

 OffWorld


[FairfieldLife] IMDB Top Ranked Films and Eposodic Cable/TV

2007-11-29 Thread new . morning
For film and eposodic TV buffs,

There is  a list of top 250 films, with Godfather top ranked at 9.1 /
10. But there is  apparently no list top for eposodic TV / cable
shows. But Sopranos is the highest ranked that I can find, at 9.5.
Deadwood 9.3. Rome and Entourage 9.2 (which is an interesting show).

Does anyone know a way to list all top eposodic TV? (there is a tv-
mini-series one, but they do not include cable eposodic, like Sopranos).

And should great eposodic be higher rated than great films? Opinions.

For eposidic fans, how would you rank the series you have watch / are
watching? And why.

btw, HBO, and some Showtime series, pear season (typically  6-discs)
have had 50% price cuts at BestBuy and on Amazon. Rome, Deadwood etc,
each year, selling at around $40 down from $85 --  recent regular
price at both outlets. 








[FairfieldLife] Re: UFC Goons

2007-11-29 Thread lurkernomore20002000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have had a team of street hustlers in DC approach me in a
choreographed sequence, contrived spontaneity.  It is quite convincing 
and dangerous.  One lady in the group was pushing a baby in a baby 
carriage, how disarming is that! 

Lurk:
How does that work. I love a good story. Wait, let me pull up a 
chair.  Okay, ready.

   
   
 
  
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[FairfieldLife] What Do We Do Now

2007-11-29 Thread suziezuzie
Are we supposed to be loading up our houses with food, water and guns?

http://sachttp://sacdcweb01.salon.com/tech/htww/2007/11/28/foreign_captal_inflows/print.html



[FairfieldLife] Re: UFC Goons

2007-11-29 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 I have had a team of street hustlers in DC approach me in a
 choreographed sequence, contrived spontaneity.  It is quite convincing 
 and dangerous.  One lady in the group was pushing a baby in a baby 
 carriage, how disarming is that! 
 
 Lurk:
 How does that work. I love a good story. Wait, let me pull up a 
 chair.  Okay, ready.

Black guys approaches me on H street in DC up the street from the old
College of Natural Law.  He tells me his Navy ship just pulled into
Baltimore Harbor that day and he had a 24 hour leave.  He reached in
his pocket and pulled out a huge wad of bills, bigger than a softball,
waves it in front of me and tells me that with only 24 hours he needs
a local to help him find a hooker.  And he tells me that he is willing
 to part with a chunk of that big wad to the guy who helps him find a
girl, been on the ship for 6 months and all and ready to ship out for
another 3 the next day.  His eyes are  clear and sincere, he holds my
gaze without flinching.  I like him almost instantly, he is radiating
familiarity like I went to school with him or something.  He needs my
help in the worst way if I would only show a little compassion for a
sailor in need, serving his country and in need of a little pussy for
one night, hell the drinks are on him, we can all party together he
has so much money to burn he doesn't care if he lays a few hundred on
me he'll buy me a girl too if I want and where is he going to spend
money in the middle of the ocean on a US Navy ship and can't I help a
brother in need for God's sake, he only has one night...

I start to back off and tell him that he doesn't need my help in the
Capital city.  He will do fine on his own.  Just then a woman rolls up
with a baby in a baby carriage, kinda blocks me in with it and joins
the conversation.  She tells me that we shouldn't miss this chance to
work a deal and that she knows some Howard University college girls
who turn tricks on the side.  She needs my help cuz she has this baby
see, and we can both make a bunch of money in such a short time,
yessereee we would be fools to pass up a chance to make a few
hundred dollars for almost no work at all, if I wont take the free
money she certainly will, she is no fool...

I realize that my ass is now in a sling with two people who wish me
harm and who knows who else in the wings, so I briskly walk away
cutting across moving traffic to get the F out of Dodge.

It was only later that I contemplated whether I saw a man pull out a
huge wad of bills or a man pulling out a few bills on the outside of a
partial roll of toilet paper.  Greed was the hook, and I didn't take
the bait.  But I learned a nice little lesson for the street.  Now if
someone asks me for the time, I step back first and look around me. 
Then I give them the time.  I never take for granted the power of more
than one person with me in their sights. 

Thanks for asking Lurk.  I hope it did not disappoint.


 


  
   
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[FairfieldLife] Re: UFC Goons

2007-11-29 Thread lurkernomore20002000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But I learned a nice little lesson for the street.  Now if
someone asks me for the time, I step back first and look around me. 
Then I give them the time.  I never take for granted the power of 
more than one person with me in their sights. 
 Thanks for asking Lurk.  I hope it did not disappoint.

Lurk:
No, not at all.  So the goal was to rob you at some point?

My Uncle got caught up in a gambling scam.  Unfortunately he took 
the bait.  I can't remember all the details, (will have to ask my 
Dad), but they got him into a hotel room and at some point he is 10, 
20 thousand in the hole. (after being way up of course) I forget how 
he got out of it, but somehow he did.
 
 
  
 
 
   

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