[FairfieldLife] Der Führer und gutes Karma?

2009-09-27 Thread cardemaister

It seems to me the only explanation for Hitler's years of huge success
is that his prArabdha-karma during those years was predominantly very
good...

If that's really the case, it's a nice example of how devastating good
karma
can be for the future of an individual, or stuff.

prArabdha mfn. commenced , begun , undertaken MBh. Ka1v. c. ; one who
has cñcommenced or bñbegun (also %{-vat} mfn. ) Amar. Ra1jat.
Katha1s. ; n. an undertaking , enterprise Ka1v. Pan5cat. ; %{-karman}
(Ni1lak.) ,



[FairfieldLife] Re: Der Führer und gutes Karma?

2009-09-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_re...@... wrote:

 It seems to me the only explanation for Hitler's years of huge
 success is that his prArabdha-karma during those years was
 predominantly very good...

It seems to me that the only explanation for still
believing that there is such a thing as good karma
and bad karma is humans' need to justify their
beliefs and actions. There is only karma.

Also that another explanation for the seeming
success of his early years is that the German people
were so fixated on finding someone to blame for
their own karma, and he supplied scapegoats.



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[FairfieldLife] Comparing American and British pronunciation

2009-09-27 Thread cardemaister

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Prevailingly

Just noticed that it's possible to compare British
and US pronunciation above. 

US pronunciation is, IMO 

1. sexier
2. more relaxed
3. lower pitched(?)

Furthermore, British short i-sound feels to me a more
pure, Italian type vowel than the corresponding American...





[FairfieldLife] Re: Comparing American and British pronunciation

2009-09-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_re...@... wrote:

 http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Prevailingly
 
 Just noticed that it's possible to compare British
 and US pronunciation above. 
 
 US pronunciation is, IMO 
 
 1. sexier
 2. more relaxed
 3. lower pitched(?)
 
 Furthermore, British short i-sound feels to me a more
 pure, Italian type vowel than the corresponding American...

I don't know how linguistics would interpret
the difference. I interpret it as the long-
term deleterious effects of the British
woman having been convinced that Hugh Grant
is the epitome of a male sex star.  :-)





[FairfieldLife] of Negative Energy

2009-09-27 Thread dhamiltony2k5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/230575 

 Rakshasas are imaginary. Get over it.


Om no, no, Turq;
That what thee don't know may not hurt thee or else explains a lot otherwise.
Spiritually aware people seem to know...

Sit with this e-mail:

paste  
Of Negative Energy, in Method

-anonymous e-mail

Love is a form of insight. If someone says something to you and they have some 
observation about you, you can watch yourself thinking, I don't know whether I 
want to take that in. If the person doesn't do it perfectly, if they don't say 
it exactly the way your mind wants to hear it, you just reject it. You can't 
pull the kernel of truth out of a stone. The purpose of insight meditation is 
to get that kernel of truth to come out of the stone, and to particularly get 
it out of people who have no skillful means, that is, they're abrupt and they 
don't know how to do it nicely, they're not poised, they don't have good 
delivery. The purpose of insight meditation is to see the truth coming from 
people who you perceive as enemies or that are ruthless in some way. The 
purpose of insight meditation is to turn your enemies into friends. It means 
that you have to have insight into how their enmity can be friendly to you. 
They can teach you about yourself.
The result of that, ideally, is that you don't insulate yourself and always 
surround yourself with supporters. You are courageous enough to be in the 
presence of people who are not of skillful means, doing the right thing at the 
right moment, and you're able to pull truth even out of that stone. That makes 
it possible to pull love out of anything, out of a dead branch. That is the 
nature of insight meditation. There are a lot of situations in life in which 
love is not so easily seen. 
There are people who, for whatever reason, make themselves into your enemy, who 
throw stuff at you that is really hurtful, and not even stuff that's 
unconscious but rakshasic, demonic stuff. Those rakshasas, those demons, those 
bad guys are there to help you practice. That's their job, that's what they do. 
The way they help you practice is that you see them for what they are. You 
realize that if there's negative energy coming your way from another person 
which is not allowing you to experience the field of love between you and them, 
it is not only them doing that but there is an entity doing that, a negative 
force that is blocking the love. It doesn't want the love to be there, it's 
invested in that, it's employed by the devil, if you want to call it that, the 
dark side, the shadow. When you recognize that something is getting in the way 
between you loving another person, it is one of those or a cluster or aggregate 
of those. 
In both the Hindu and the Buddhist tradition the idea is to shoot them in the 
foot, to cut through, to completely annihilate their power, to debilitate them, 
to get them out of your life. How do you get rid of those demonic beings that 
are breaking up the love, that are destroying the love between you and your 
family, your relations, your lover? This is another important point about 
insight meditation. It teaches you that they exist, that it's not your 
imagination, and what to do with them. What do you do with them? Well, right 
now I'm locked up like this with my sister, God bless her. When you see that 
another person is emanating a powerful negative energy and they may not even 
know it, then you have a job to do. As a spiritual person you're on call. Your 
job is to shoot this thing, get rid of it, take it out, annihilate it, blast 
it, explode it. How do you do that? When you have an enemy of this rakshasic 
nature, which it isn't always, sometimes it's at a personality structure level, 
but if it is, if that's what's coming at you, you have to get rid of it. If its 
job is to create fear, it will generate more fear. If its job is to create 
anger, it will generate more anger. That's what rakshasas do. That's their job. 
According to a lot of scriptures, they don't have a choice, they're slaves, 
essentially, of the dark side, they are made to do that, they don't have free 
will. Basically they are there to fight you into sadness, into fear, into 
anger, into jealousy, but ultimately they are there to cause you to break from 
practice. They're sadhana breakers. They're there to stop you from practicing, 
from doing what you know is the best thing for your evolution. 
How do you stop them from stopping you? From a transcendent point of view, the 
way that you stop rakshasas is that you get deeper into the transcendent that 
they are sourced from. If they're here and they have a pipeline into the 
transcendent and it's this far down and that's where they're getting their 
rakshasa juice from, you go down lower. You have to go underneath them to get 
at them. It's like what Maharishi said, you can't solve a problem on the level 
of the problem. 

[FairfieldLife] Baby Dance

2009-09-27 Thread raunchydog
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikTxfIDYx6Q



[FairfieldLife] Re: of Negative Energy

2009-09-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/230575 
 
  Rakshasas are imaginary. Get over it.
 
 Om no, no, Turq;
 That what thee don't know may not hurt thee or 
 else explains a lot otherwise.
 Spiritually aware people seem to know...
 
 Sit with this e-mail:
 
 paste  
 Of Negative Energy, in Method

I didn't bother to read it. I refer you instead
to this writeup from Wikipedia, which I think
better describes the phenomenon:

The bogeyman (also spelled boogyman, bogyman, boogieman, 
boogey monster, or boogeyman) is a legendary ghost-like 
monster. The bogeyman has no specific appearance, and 
conceptions of the monster can vary drastically even 
from household to household within the same community; 
in many cases he simply has no set appearance in the 
mind of a child, but is just an amorphous embodiment 
of terror. The Boogieman is the pure essence of fear, 
and cannot be killed, harmed, or in anyway inconven-
ienced, as he is made of fear, and as long as people 
have any fear at all, he will exist.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Mckenna Advaita and Transcendental FF

2009-09-27 Thread WillyTex
Vaj wrote:
 Vedantins don't go to heaven.
 
All realized Siddhas do to Siddhaloka.
 
 Thanks.

You are welcome.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Tricycle Interview with Adyashanti

2009-09-27 Thread WillyTex
yifuxero wrote:

 MMY is definitely not a Neo-Advaitin...
 
Well, first you'd have to define traditional
Advaita and then explain 'Neo-Advaita'.

Traditional Advaita, as taught by the Adi
Shankaracharya, has sadhana requirements.
Not everyone will be accepted into the 
Saraswati Order. Most people won't have
access to the initiation performed for the
Sannyasin of the Saraswati tradition.

However, although the Shankaracharya Order
adheres to the Advaita Vedanta, at the same 
time they all worship the Divine Mother - 
Sri Vidya, and that is why they are termed 
Saraswati. They are Sri Vidya proponents who
follow Shankaracharya's Advaita Vedanta.

Ramana Maharshi changed all that - he
established the 'Direct Path' teachings. He
taught that Realization is open to everyone,
and that a long series of preparatory 
studies was not a requirement that the
non-dual Reality be realized without all
the prerequisites.

MMY seems to agree with much that Ramana 
Maharshi has said, as do Poonja, Nisargadatta 
Maharaj, Papaji, Atmananda Krishna Menon, 
Swami Chinmayananda, and Ramesh Balsekar.

Read more:

Subject: Guru Dev's Sadhana
From: Willytex
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental, 
alt.meditation, alt.yoga
Date: August 15, 2003
http://tinyurl.com/ydzz8as

Advaita Vedanta:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advaita_Vedanta

Ramana Maharshi:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramana_Maharshi



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mckenna Advaita and Transcendental FF

2009-09-27 Thread Vaj
On Sep 27, 2009, at 8:49 AM, WillyTex wrote:Vaj wrote: Vedantins don't go to heaven.All realized Siddhas do to Siddhaloka. Thanks.You are welcome.Siddha-loka is not svarga, heaven. People from the siddha path might decide to go to siddha-loka, but not Vedantins. You sound really confused.Mahesh was a mimamsaka. That's why his pundits declared "Maharishi is in heaven" silly.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mckenna Advaita and Transcendental FF

2009-09-27 Thread WillyTex
Vaj wrote:
 People from the siddha path might  
 decide to go to siddha-loka, but not 
 Vedantins. 

All the Saraswati Advaitins are Siddhas
and they worship the Tripurasundari. 
They are Tantric Siddhas. They go to
Siddhaloka, not because they are 
Vedantins, but because they follow the 
Siddha Tradition of the Sri Vidya.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count

2009-09-27 Thread WillyTex
Steve wrote:
 Said he was sorry that he over posted.  
 
Why don't you give him some spiritual
help - you're a spiritual teacher, right?
At least you said you were - trained by
the Maharishi.



[FairfieldLife] Re: The FFL Posting Limit Get Out Of Jail Free Card (Was: Post Count)

2009-09-27 Thread WillyTex
TurquoiseB wrote:
 I am tempted to suggest a special exemption 
 to the FFL Posting Limits. 

This sounds like a typical TMO rule. I guess
once a TMO, always a TMO. Why is the TMO so
full of rules and regulations? I thought
Turq said he was out of the TMO and out of
teaching. The TMO is always trying to block
access to information. Hey, Turq, what
happened to all the money?



[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev quoted in Maharishi meditation leaflet

2009-09-27 Thread WillyTex
Premanand wrote:
 'By treatments of the outer physical 
 existence, the peacelessness in the 
 sukshma sharir (subtle body) will not 
 go away.  For the purpose of removing 
 ashanti (peacelessness) the healing of 
 the subtle body is required... 

So, I guess it has been pretty well 
established by Premanand that Guru Dev 
was a Siddha Yogi. That figures, since 
the Guru Dev was a Saraswati adherent 
that worshiped the Sri Vidya. And, it
would seem that Guru Dev also enjoyed
many aspects of the 'Nath' Siddha 
tradition as well. This isn't very
surprising, since it is well known that
the memebers of the Saraswati Order are
all tantric yogis that worship Sri
Saraswati.



[FairfieldLife] Re: The FFL Posting Limit Get Out Of Jail Free Card (Was: Post Count)

2009-09-27 Thread WillyTex
Bhairitu wrote:
 Just say the free week expires with 
 the six-month period.  No rollover... 

Screw you and your silly TMO rules. I can
go to Usenet and post anything I want to
as many times as I want to. You regulators
already drove off the only interesting
respondent over here - Lawson. You guys
and your moderators really screwed Lawson 
over with your rules. Lawson was just about
the only TMO insider that was willing to 
tell us what was really going on with TM.
We've got Ministers, Governors, and Teachers
here that won't even tell me what happened 
to all the money. Even the Raja's brother
won't tell us the truth, and you want more
rules for a discussion group? 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mckenna Advaita and Transcendental FF

2009-09-27 Thread Vaj


On Sep 27, 2009, at 10:00 AM, WillyTex wrote:


Vaj wrote:
 People from the siddha path might
 decide to go to siddha-loka, but not
 Vedantins.

All the Saraswati Advaitins are Siddhas
and they worship the Tripurasundari.
They are Tantric Siddhas. They go to
Siddhaloka, not because they are
Vedantins, but because they follow the
Siddha Tradition of the Sri Vidya.


Marshy wasn't a Saraswati Advaitin Willy, he was a secretary to one!




[FairfieldLife] Pittsburgh: occupied ghost town

2009-09-27 Thread Vaj

Sign the petition to protest:

http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/1170/t/3716/petition.jsp?petition_KEY=2115

G20 in Pittsburgh: Police State Ghost Town  

Saturday, 26 September 2009 07:36

By  Rob Kall
This is a slightly edited version of an article originally posted on  
OpEd news.


Pittsburgh is a ghost-town, emptied of workers and the usual  
pedestrians, but filled to overflowing with over 12,000 swat cops from  
all over the US.


Anti-war activist Bill Perry, a Viet Nam war veteran, has posted an  
incredible collection of images to flickr.


I spoke to veteran civil defense attorney Paul Hetznecker about how  
the police try to block photos from being taken at events-- one way,  
by segregating protesters to specified, distant areas. My take-away  
from that conversation: Take pictures. The police use photos and  
videos to craft false scenarios and lies. The best defense for  
protesters is to take still images and videos of police-- thousands of  
them. Get their faces, their shifting positions. This is one of the  
most powerful defenses when protesters are charged. The police will,  
otherwise, use photos to place you on the scene, to support charges of  
criminal conspiracy.


Bill writes, “G-20 Finance Ministers have robbed Pension Plans, Looted  
401 k's, Foreclosed Mortgages, Smashed Dreams, and Ruined Lives, yet  
they get this sort of Police Protection:I know 3 Strike Shop Lifters  
doing Life, while these Grand Master Thieves party on OUR dime.”


WHO ARE THE REAL CRIMINALS?

Take pictures. The police use photos and videos to craft false  
scenarios and lies. The best defense for protesters is to take still  
images and videos of police-- thousands of them. Get their faces,  
their shifting positions. This is one of the most powerful defenses  
when protesters are charged.


I spoke to a friend whose son lives in Pittsburgh. The city is locked  
down tight. He has been instructed to work at home. Stores are closed.  
One report says that over 12,000 police have been brought in and they  
are working 12 hour shifts.


Protesters have been given two remote locations to protest at. I  
spoke with noted Philadelphia civil defense attorney Paul Hetznecker,  
on this and he observed that the idea of protest is to be where the  
people who need to hear the message are. He said that this nation was  
founded by protesters, that this new approach of blocking and hiding  
dissent and protest has been continued by the Obama administration.


The protesters in Pittsburgh are heroes, standing up to a government  
that has thrown out the constitution and embraced a police state. They  
are the scraggly line that keeps the US from leading the world to  
become a locked down, massively policed, safe place for corporatists  
to do as they please.


Every protester who marches without permission, facing arrest is a  
soldier, without armor, without tear-gas mask, without kevlar vest and  
knee and elbow pads, like these automaton-like robo-cops who travel  
from all over the US, probably as volunteers, getting a thrill,  
playing macho-cop so they can take pictures and Tivo themselves being  
tough. These out of state cops are neo fascists pissing on the  
constitution, erasing the freedoms the founders died for. Thomas  
Jefferson must be rolling in his grave.










Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mckenna Advaita and Transcendental FF

2009-09-27 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Sep 27, 2009, at 9:49 AM, Vaj wrote:


On Sep 27, 2009, at 10:00 AM, WillyTex wrote:


Vaj wrote:
 People from the siddha path might
 decide to go to siddha-loka, but not
 Vedantins.

All the Saraswati Advaitins are Siddhas
and they worship the Tripurasundari.
They are Tantric Siddhas. They go to
Siddhaloka, not because they are
Vedantins, but because they follow the
Siddha Tradition of the Sri Vidya.


Marshy wasn't a Saraswati Advaitin Willy, he was a secretary to one!


Why do I think of s'mores every time I
see MMY's name written like this?  Is it
just me?

Sal



[FairfieldLife] Re: Mckenna Advaita and Transcendental FF

2009-09-27 Thread WillyTex
  All the Saraswati Advaitins are Siddhas
  and they worship the Tripurasundari.
  They are Tantric Siddhas. They go to
  Siddhaloka, not because they are
  Vedantins, but because they follow the
  Siddha Tradition of the Sri Vidya.
 
Vaj wrote:
 Marshy wasn't a Saraswati Advaitin Willy, 
 he was a secretary to one!

Secretaries can be Saraswati Advaitins, Vaj.

Maharishi was a Saraswati Advaitin, he
initiated me in a diksha with the Saraswati
bija. His Master, Brahmanand Saraswati, was
also a Saraswati Advaitin. This has also been 
established by Premanand and by James Duffy. 

Maharishi is a 'Neo-Advaitin' who taught the 
'Direct Path' teachings. All the Saraswati 
Advaitins are tantrics because they ascribe 
to the Sri Vidya.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Mckenna Advaita and Transcendental FF

2009-09-27 Thread WillyTex
  Marshy wasn't a Saraswati Advaitin...
 
Sal Sunshine wrote:
 Why do I think of s'mores every time I
 see MMY's name written like this?  Is it
 just me?
 
Maybe it's because you don't read Sanskrit
and don't know how to use ITRANS for your 
transliterations. Who knows, maybe it's 
because you're always thinking about eating 
food. But, because they called Ramana the
'Maharshi', they pronounced it 'Marshy'?



[FairfieldLife] Re: Pittsburgh: occupied ghost town

2009-09-27 Thread WillyTex
Vaj wrote:
 Pittsburgh: occupied ghost town...

Don't you just hate those rock-throwing
anarchists marching against Obama's
economic recovery program! They should
be rounded up and sent down to Cuba.



[FairfieldLife] Re: of Negative Energy

2009-09-27 Thread dhamiltony2k5
 I didn't bother to read it. I refer you instead
 to this writeup from Wikipedia, which I think
 better describes the phenomenon

Oh no, Turq.  Sorry you missed it.
Yours is more descriptive while the other 
Is more practical.  The other is more the FF
take on negativity.  The transcendental
Look.  

Print it out and take it to the beach with you,
I think you'd appreciate its take.

There is a sensibility shared in this as it is said,
that you could hear even in line in a coffee shop around FF in the meditating
Community.

I like it as a record of a spiritual POV as it is said that is in the
Transcendental community.

Jai Adi Shankara,

-D in FF



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/230575 
 
  Rakshasas are imaginary. Get over it.
 
 
 Om no, no, Turq;
 That what thee don't know may not hurt thee or else explains a lot otherwise.
 Spiritually aware people seem to know...
 
 Sit with this e-mail:
 
 paste  
 Of Negative Energy, in Method
 
 -anonymous e-mail
 
 Love is a form of insight. If someone says something to you and they have 
 some observation about you, you can watch yourself thinking, I don't know 
 whether I want to take that in. If the person doesn't do it perfectly, if 
 they don't say it exactly the way your mind wants to hear it, you just reject 
 it. You can't pull the kernel of truth out of a stone. The purpose of insight 
 meditation is to get that kernel of truth to come out of the stone, and to 
 particularly get it out of people who have no skillful means, that is, 
 they're abrupt and they don't know how to do it nicely, they're not poised, 
 they don't have good delivery. The purpose of insight meditation is to see 
 the truth coming from people who you perceive as enemies or that are ruthless 
 in some way. The purpose of insight meditation is to turn your enemies into 
 friends. It means that you have to have insight into how their enmity can be 
 friendly to you. They can teach you about yourself.
 The result of that, ideally, is that you don't insulate yourself and always 
 surround yourself with supporters. You are courageous enough to be in the 
 presence of people who are not of skillful means, doing the right thing at 
 the right moment, and you're able to pull truth even out of that stone. That 
 makes it possible to pull love out of anything, out of a dead branch. That is 
 the nature of insight meditation. There are a lot of situations in life in 
 which love is not so easily seen. 
 There are people who, for whatever reason, make themselves into your enemy, 
 who throw stuff at you that is really hurtful, and not even stuff that's 
 unconscious but rakshasic, demonic stuff. Those rakshasas, those demons, 
 those bad guys are there to help you practice. That's their job, that's what 
 they do. The way they help you practice is that you see them for what they 
 are. You realize that if there's negative energy coming your way from another 
 person which is not allowing you to experience the field of love between you 
 and them, it is not only them doing that but there is an entity doing that, a 
 negative force that is blocking the love. It doesn't want the love to be 
 there, it's invested in that, it's employed by the devil, if you want to call 
 it that, the dark side, the shadow. When you recognize that something is 
 getting in the way between you loving another person, it is one of those or a 
 cluster or aggregate of those. 
 In both the Hindu and the Buddhist tradition the idea is to shoot them in the 
 foot, to cut through, to completely annihilate their power, to debilitate 
 them, to get them out of your life. How do you get rid of those demonic 
 beings that are breaking up the love, that are destroying the love between 
 you and your family, your relations, your lover? This is another important 
 point about insight meditation. It teaches you that they exist, that it's not 
 your imagination, and what to do with them. What do you do with them? Well, 
 right now I'm locked up like this with my sister, God bless her. When you see 
 that another person is emanating a powerful negative energy and they may not 
 even know it, then you have a job to do. As a spiritual person you're on 
 call. Your job is to shoot this thing, get rid of it, take it out, annihilate 
 it, blast it, explode it. How do you do that? When you have an enemy of this 
 rakshasic nature, which it isn't always, sometimes it's at a personality 
 structure level, but if it is, if that's what's coming at you, you have to 
 get rid of it. If its job is to create fear, it will generate more fear. If 
 its job is to create anger, it will generate more anger. That's what 
 rakshasas do. That's their job. According to a lot of scriptures, they don't 
 have a choice, they're slaves, essentially, of the dark side, they are made 
 to do that, 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mckenna Advaita and Transcendental FF

2009-09-27 Thread Vaj


On Sep 27, 2009, at 11:27 AM, WillyTex wrote:


  All the Saraswati Advaitins are Siddhas
  and they worship the Tripurasundari.
  They are Tantric Siddhas. They go to
  Siddhaloka, not because they are
  Vedantins, but because they follow the
  Siddha Tradition of the Sri Vidya.
 
Vaj wrote:
 Marshy wasn't a Saraswati Advaitin Willy,
 he was a secretary to one!

Secretaries can be Saraswati Advaitins, Vaj.

Maharishi was a Saraswati Advaitin, he
initiated me in a diksha with the Saraswati
bija. His Master, Brahmanand Saraswati, was
also a Saraswati Advaitin. This has also been
established by Premanand and by James Duffy.

Maharishi is a 'Neo-Advaitin' who taught the
'Direct Path' teachings. All the Saraswati
Advaitins are tantrics because they ascribe
to the Sri Vidya.


Don't be silly Willy, the Marshy was not a member of the Saraswati  
order, he was not a Brahmin. And although he talked about Advaita  
Vedanta vaguely, he did not teach the techniques of Advaita Vedanta.  
You have to go to one of the Neo-advaitic satsangarians if you wanted  
the 'highest first'. Marshy taught tantric mantra meditation but liked  
to call it Vedic.


No wonder you're so confused! I'd be confused too if I took tantric  
mantra meditation as the highest first! Sheesh, if you find yourself  
in a hole, the first thing to do is stop diggin'. Not our Marshy! He  
just kept diggin'.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mckenna Advaita and Transcendental FF

2009-09-27 Thread Vaj


On Sep 27, 2009, at 11:12 AM, Sal Sunshine wrote:


Marshy wasn't a Saraswati Advaitin Willy, he was a secretary to one!


Why do I think of s'mores every time I
see MMY's name written like this?  Is it
just me?


I keep getting a cute swamp.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The FFL Posting Limit Get Out Of Jail Free Card (Was: Post Count)

2009-09-27 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote:

 We've got Ministers, Governors, and Teachers
 here that won't even tell me what happened 
 to all the money. Even the Raja's brother
 won't tell us the truth, and you want more
 rules for a discussion group?

I don't know what money you're referring to, and I don't know what truth it is 
you want me to tell you. I have no involvement with and zero interest in the 
TMO. Just because my brother is a Raja doesn't mean I have any idea what the 
TMO is up to. I never discuss TM stuff with my brother. 



[FairfieldLife] Re: of Negative Energy

2009-09-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote:

  I didn't bother to read it. I refer you instead
  to this writeup from Wikipedia, which I think
  better describes the phenomenon
 
 Oh no, Turq.  Sorry you missed it.
 Yours is more descriptive while the other 
 Is more practical.  The other is more the 
 FF take on negativity.  The transcendental
 Look.  

I see it as trying to put a New Age spin
on the fact that they're focusing on their
fears, personifying them, and indulging
in them. 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Mckenna Advaita and Transcendental FF

2009-09-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:

 On Sep 27, 2009, at 11:12 AM, Sal Sunshine wrote:

  Marshy wasn't a Saraswati Advaitin Willy, he was a secretary to
one!
 
  Why do I think of s'mores every time I
  see MMY's name written like this?  Is it
  just me?

 I keep getting a cute swamp.

  [http://www.toplessrobot.com/return_of_the_swamp_thing_poster_01.jpg]



[FairfieldLife] Re: of Negative Energy

2009-09-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
 
   I didn't bother to read it. I refer you instead
   to this writeup from Wikipedia, which I think
   better describes the phenomenon
  
  Oh no, Turq.  Sorry you missed it.
  Yours is more descriptive while the other 
  Is more practical.  The other is more the 
  FF take on negativity.  The transcendental
  Look.  
 
 I see it as trying to put a New Age spin
 on the fact that they're focusing on their
 fears, personifying them, and indulging
 in them.

Says Barry, who didn't bother to read it.




[FairfieldLife] Re: TV Review: Dollhouse Episode 1 Season 2

2009-09-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote:

 Well I would say that Whedon finally got this series right.   
 Let's hope they can keep up the quality. There is much more 
 character development and scene development this season.  

I disagree. It just seems that way because Joss
is able to build upon a framework that he created
in last season's character development.

 Looks like Echo is going to be more like an undercover agent 
 and hence the downplay of prostitution theme which turned 
 off some viewers in the first season.  The mind programming 
 is used more for a cover.  Topher has a bigger role in 
 this episode as does Whisky. Jamie Bamber of BSG is a guest 
 star, not using an American accent, playing an international 
 arms dealer. I'm not going to get into spoilers or analysis 
 but  just say I was impressed with this first episode and 
 the  space they gave for scene development which puts 
 it head and shoulders above last season.  Now to go see 
 how the other armchair critics saw it.

Well, this one's not even going to bother, 
except to say that I enjoyed it. I learned
last season -- and over the years, as I
appreciated Joss Whedon's work -- that to
view this as episodic television is a huge
category mistake. 

To judge the series based on one chapter
of what is going to be a 12-chapter novel
is as silly as trying to do the same thing
with a novel in print. Whedon doesn't *write*
episodes. He writes scenarios that all lead
up to something happening in show #7 or #8
or #12, or even next season. The fact that
the *individual* plotline of one show seems
to wrap up within an hour doesn't mean that
it's ever designed to be a standalone hour.

IMO, of course...





[FairfieldLife] TM-induced psychosis

2009-09-27 Thread Rick Archer
From: joerg dao [mailto:joerg...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 6:06 PM
To: r...@searchsummit.com
Subject: Re: TM-induced psychosis
 


Re: TM-induced psychosis 
People liked it. I couldn't hear anything from our house, even though I can
hear school marching bands practicing over there. Probably because the
speakers were facing the opposite direction. 

Thx for reporting

I just want to answer this discussion about psychosis.
I was on professional conferences of psychiatrists, and they ALL
are AFRAID of that outburst, and really DON´T know 
1) what it is
2) to work it out other than intense medication.
(which by the way really harms your personality in the long run ...)

So psychosis happening to TM-people is another of the riddles, the
TMers haven`t looked at it enough to understand.

Since I have my own approach, where these outbursts are
definitely
1) understood
2) worked out by entangling them
I really know what I`m talking about.

1) The term is wrong.
It mostly is intense outburst of heavy emotions.
2) 99% of all socalled experts, docs, psychiatrists etc.
are themselves AFRAID of the outbursts. (Some of them might
even gotten beaten up, bec they tried something inexceptible ...)
3) bec of that intense fear - and that is institutionalized by instructing
xperts, NOT to work on the emotional level, but ONLY medications ...
4) xperts still are even more afraid

Bec of all this confusion, TMers haven`t had any chance to get
good new understanding. And when TMers had psychotic outburst,
they got the same old wrong treatment PLUS
the whole speculation in the TMers-sphere, what it could be all
about.

So point 1)
Stop speculating. Get the facts.
2) Its possible, to easily work these things out.
 - but in that case, you need training.

There is a complete new understanding of the human psyche.
Developed from meditation. But it went greatly beyond that.

You can read some here:
www.dao-clinique.com http://www.dao-clinique.com/ 

cheers

joerg. 
 


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TV Review: Dollhouse Episode 1 Season 2

2009-09-27 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote:
   
 Well I would say that Whedon finally got this series right.   
 Let's hope they can keep up the quality. There is much more 
 character development and scene development this season.  
 

 I disagree. It just seems that way because Joss
 is able to build upon a framework that he created
 in last season's character development.
   
The scenes were much longer than last season but maybe you didn't 
notice.  Those kind of things I do (along with story arcs) but then I'm 
into film making.

Enjoy while you can:
Dollhouse death watch: Ratings worse than ever

Joss Whedon's sci-fi Dollhouse premiered Friday, and the news isn't 
good: Overnight ratings were the worst in the show's history. 
Translated: If you like it, you'd better watch it while you can.

More here:
http://scifiwire.com/2009/09/dollhouse-death-watch-rat.php

OTOH, I would love to see HBO or Showtime do a series based on Sleep 
Dealer.  That would be very compelling and very possible given the way 
the film is set up.  The broadcast and cable networks would piss all 
over such a series since it would be too controversial.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The FFL Posting Limit Get Out Of Jail Free Card (Was: Post Count)

2009-09-27 Thread Bhairitu
WillyTex wrote:
 Bhairitu wrote:
   
 Just say the free week expires with 
 the six-month period.  No rollover... 

 
 Screw you and your silly TMO rules. I can
 go to Usenet and post anything I want to
 as many times as I want to. You regulators
 already drove off the only interesting
 respondent over here - Lawson. You guys
 and your moderators really screwed Lawson 
 over with your rules. Lawson was just about
 the only TMO insider that was willing to 
 tell us what was really going on with TM.
 We've got Ministers, Governors, and Teachers
 here that won't even tell me what happened 
 to all the money. Even the Raja's brother
 won't tell us the truth, and you want more
 rules for a discussion group? 

Lawson a TMO insider?  He wasn't even TM teacher.  Lawson would love 
Twitter.  Wonder if he has an account?  :-D

Well we're all retired in the Caymans, Willy.  We just say we're 
somewhere else.  All that initiation money came in quite handy.

And finally you're memory is getting really short, I was opposed to the 
posting limit.  I only wrote the Post Count script to help people easily 
know many messages they've posted during the week.  And the get out of 
jail card is flawed because one would have to add a limit or someone 
will flood the group with posts using it.





[FairfieldLife] Re: TV Review: Dollhouse Episode 1 Season 2

2009-09-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote:

 TurquoiseB wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:

  Well I would say that Whedon finally got this series right.   
  Let's hope they can keep up the quality. There is much more 
  character development and scene development this season.  
 
  I disagree. It just seems that way because Joss
  is able to build upon a framework that he created
  in last season's character development.

 The scenes were much longer than last season but maybe 
 you didn't notice.  Those kind of things I do (along 
 with story arcs) but then I'm into film making.

With all due respect, based on your comments
on this forum, you're into traditional, commer-
cial filmmaking. 

Remember how much you liked the Unaired Pilot?
Joss said that once that it was finally finished,
he looked at it and realized that FOX had made 
him make the kind of TV that he swore he would 
never make, so he trashed it and started over. 
The first time it came up here I said I hated it 
as well. One of us thought more like Joss Whedon 
and one of us thought more like a FOX executive. :-)

 Enjoy while you can:
 Dollhouse death watch: Ratings worse than ever
 
 Joss Whedon's sci-fi Dollhouse premiered Friday, and the news isn't 
 good: Overnight ratings were the worst in the show's history. 
 Translated: If you like it, you'd better watch it while you can.

A lot of people would like to see him fail. And
he might. But it *won't* be because he's reduced
himself to making TV shows like everyone else.
He'll go out making the stuff *he* thinks he
should be making. And that's what distinguishes
the artists from the hacks.

I liked a lot about the new episode. Since I have
always felt that the hottest babe on the series
(and possibly the best actress, along with DeWitt)
was Whiskey, I'm pleased to see her taking on a
larger role. I really like the Dr. Frankenstein/
monster thang that's developing between her and
another character (trying to avoid spoilers).  

But I saw it as primarily setup, stuff to pave
the way for future episodes and get the audience 
to think they know what's going to happen. Then 
Joss can fuck with those expectations and do 
something else.  :-)





[FairfieldLife] Why electrical sockets are like they are

2009-09-27 Thread authfriend

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10Eo9xnRXbA



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TV Review: Dollhouse Episode 1 Season 2

2009-09-27 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote:
   
 TurquoiseB wrote:
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
   
   
 Well I would say that Whedon finally got this series right.   
 Let's hope they can keep up the quality. There is much more 
 character development and scene development this season.  
 
 I disagree. It just seems that way because Joss
 is able to build upon a framework that he created
 in last season's character development.
   

 The scenes were much longer than last season but maybe 
 you didn't notice.  Those kind of things I do (along 
 with story arcs) but then I'm into film making.
 

 With all due respect, based on your comments
 on this forum, you're into traditional, commer-
 cial filmmaking. 
   

Hardly.  But I do somewhat know how the business (or game) works.  So do 
a lot of independent film makers.  The ones that don't usually have a 
hard time of getting their films made.   Let's just say there are 
minefields in the business.  Did you read the book Stu recommended?   
Those that know where the mines are can game the business to put out 
the films or series they want.  I watch a lot of arthouse films.  Film 
structure is like grammar.  If you are breaking it you need to know what 
you're doing. 

I don't believe for a minute that Whedon is trying to be extra artsy or 
anything.  Neither do I believe he is into writing just scenarios (which 
is more the first step to your teleplay)  and knows well how to use the 
episode form to tell a story and that doesn't bother him at all.  If he 
didn't want to risk the commercial TV world he should have either sold 
the series to FX, their cable network.  A show like Sons of Anarchy 
has a lot more creative freedom or if you want just high art look at 
Rescue Me which I wasn't expecting at all to be done the way it is.  
Or he really should have pitched it to Showtime or HBO for even more 
artistic freedom.  Maybe he did and they didn't bite. 

I'm beginning to get the impression people in the business see Whedon as 
a hit-or-miss guy and a bit of a gamble.  And these days with the 
economy they really don't like to gamble.  Why do you think there are so 
unimaginative remakes?  They seem like a sure deal to the suits.

Long scenes are considered a risk in production.  Rescue Me is known 
for long scenes  and actors love them but if a line gets blown during a 
long dialog then they start to get expensive.

BTW, I also noticed a bit of the CW (was WB) formula in the episode, 
particularly the use of music.
 Remember how much you liked the Unaired Pilot?
 Joss said that once that it was finally finished,
 he looked at it and realized that FOX had made 
 him make the kind of TV that he swore he would 
 never make, so he trashed it and started over. 
 The first time it came up here I said I hated it 
 as well. One of us thought more like Joss Whedon 
 and one of us thought more like a FOX executive. :-)
   
I'm not sure you want to think like Joss Whedon.  :-D   You might prefer 
to say you would like to make the kind of shows he does.  And me, an 
executive?  Hardly, I hate wearing a suit (yup TTC was a drag that 
way).  I don't even have the mindset to be a bean counter.   A friend 
drops off his Hollywood Reporter back issues and it hard to read them 
after a while because it is about the same old clique of blowhards that 
run Hollywood.  And reading about them issue after issue can be boring 
though informative.  Hint: we're going to see even more sci-fi series 
and movies coming down the pike.

We're going to have to agree to disagree and the armchair critics on the 
forums seem to be split too.




[FairfieldLife] Can a movie be a good film or even a great film and not be Art?

2009-09-27 Thread TurquoiseB
I had been thinking about this before the subject
arose with Dollhouse, so I'll rap about it a bit
more. Call me elitist, but I think that there is 
a difference between good movies (or even great 
movies) and those films I would call Art. Yes, 
this is pure opinion on my part, and as such 
purely subjective, but I have my reasons for 
drawing such a distinction. 

It has to do with formulas and templates. 
*Dan Brown* writes using formulas and templates.
He even *taught* writing. And he makes a gazillion
dollars writing stuff that people think is good.
Some probably think it's great. But I doubt that
anyone considers it Art.

A *great deal* of filmmaking and television is
is based on templates. Three acts. X happens in 
Act One, Y happens in Act Two, and Z happens in 
Act Three. Boy meets girl, boy and girl fall in
love, boy loses girl, boy finds girl again and 
everybody lives happily ever after. Stranger rides 
into River City and finds Trouble with a capital 
T there, so the stranger kicks ass, cleans up 
all the loose karma, and rides off into the sunset. 

Someone can make a good movie -- or even a great
movie -- by following templates. Case in point:
Sergio Leone. His schooling as a filmmaker was
to watch the films of the masters of his era. He
then stole from each of them and put them together
into movies of his own, some of which can be truly
called great. But were they Art?

I don't know. I'm just speculating and expressing
personal preference here. But my feeling is that
the thing that turns a great movie into Art is
*breaking* the templates and fucking with them, 
not following them.

Case in point: Quentin Tarantino. Nothing could 
*be* more formulaic and template-driven than the
tale of a bunch of misfit soldiers who form into
an elite band of warriors and do noble things. I
mean, we're talkin' The Wild Bunch, or The
Dirty Dozen, or even Seven Samurai. The whole
idea just *reeks* of cliches. 

But somehow Inglorious Basterds wasn't a cliche.
It took all of the formulas and all of the templates
and paid homage to them, but them *twisted* them and
fucked with them as much as possible. 

Maybe it's because I'm more than a little twisted
myself, but I like that. :-) Once Upon A Time In The
West might be a great movie, but I don't think it's
Art. Inglorious Basterds, on the other hand, just
may be Art.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Can a movie be a good film or even a great film and not be Art?

2009-09-27 Thread TurquoiseB
Rudely following up on my own rap :-), I've thought
of a great example of my premise, although not one
from the world of movies. I'm thinkin' William 
Shakespeare.

Shakespeare wrote for the television of his time.
The Globe wasn't filled with nobles, except during
command performances; it was filled with street
rabble. And Shakespeare gave them what they wanted,
and what they were used to.

A professor of mine in college was a noted Shakes-
pearian scholar whose particular schtick was digging
through historical libraries to find where Shakes-
peare's inspiration came from. Turns out that most
of it came from the streets of London, in the form
of the cheaply printed books and pamphlets that you
could buy on any street corner for one pence. 

They told stories that the common people wanted to
hear. Stories about kings and queens and courtly
intrigues. Stories about faraway mysterious islands, 
like the ones that explorers of the time were saying 
they'd found. Romantic tragedies. Romantic comedies.
Ribald comedies. Stories about astrology, and the 
influence of the stars. Stories about ghosts, and
the influence of the dead.

It's pretty much agreed upon among Shakespearian
scholars that he stole *all* of his plots. But it's
what he did with them that turned them into Art. He
transcended the source material, transcended the
formulas and the templates that his source material
followed and that his audience expected him to follow, 
and he transcended the audiences themselves, very few 
of whom had any *clue* how brilliant the play they 
were watching really was. 

Shakespeare was an alchemist. He took lead and turned 
it into gold. And he took formulas and templates and
turned them into Art.





[FairfieldLife] Clinton: There Won't Be A Repeat Of '94 Elections, Right Wing Is Weak

2009-09-27 Thread do.rflex

Will media report how low in the polls Republicans have sunk?

~ ~ The overall approval ratings of Congressional Republicans is 17% as
a party! ~ ~

We constantly are seeing polling down from the major news services that
follow President Obama's approval ratings and it is an important stat to
keep track of, but can you tell me what the media is not covering? How
low the Republicans have been polling ever since they became the party
of Waterloo. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHV4nDS501Y 
The Democratic leaders do have terrible polling numbers, Nancy Pelosi
has a 34% approval rating in DKOS's new poll
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/9/25/786217/-Weekly-Tracking-Pol\
l:-A-Levelling-Off  and Harry Reid has a 31% approval rating, but let's
take a look at the Republican leadership, shall we?

  [Dkos poll_64bf2.jpg]
Poll via Crooks Liars
http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/will-media-ever-report-how-low-poil\
ling


Clinton: There Won't Be A Repeat Of '94 Elections


Bill Clinton predicted on Sunday that Democrats in Congress would avoid
the political bloodbath during the 2010 elections that they witnessed
during the first mid-term elections under his presidency.

Appearing on NBC's Meet the Press, the former president sought to calm
the concerns of many within his own party that current political trends
and electoral history foreshadow massive losses in the House and the
Senate.

There's no way they can make it that bad, Clinton said, when asked if
he was worried about a repeat of the '94 elections, in which Republicans
took over the House for the first time in 40 years.

Number one, Clinton explained, the country is more diverse and more
interested in positive action. Number two, they've seen this movie
before, because they had eight years under President Bush when the
Republicans finally had the whole government, and they know the results
were bad. And--[laughing]--number three, the Democrats haven't taken on
the gun lobby like I did, and they took 15 of our members out. So I
don't think-- it'll be, whatever happens, it'll be manageable for the
president.

All of which was not to suggest that Clinton was dismissing the GOP's
capacity for exacting political blood. At another point in his
interview, the former president - whose legacy was, in part, defined by
the loss of Congress in '94 - smarted that the so-called vast right
wing conspiracy still exists and has its eyes set on the current White
House.

Oh, you bet, said Clinton. Sure it is. It's not as strong as it was,
because America has changed demographically. But it's as virulent as it
was. I mean, they're saying things about him. You know, it's like when
they accused me of murder, and all that stuff they did. ... But ... it's
not really good for the Republicans and the country, what's going on
now. I mean, they may be hurting President Obama. They can take his
numbers down. They can run his opposition up. But, fundamentally, he and
his team have a positive agenda for America. Their agenda seems to be
wanting him to fail. ...

As for the 2010 elections, the current construct in House of
Representatives - in which a substantial chunk of the 256 Democrats hail
from traditionally conservative districts - does portend for significant
(but, perhaps, not heavy) losses in the 2010 elections.


--Video of Bill Clinton on Meet the Press at link:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/27/clinton-there-wont-be-a-r_n_301\
140.html



Read more at:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/27/clinton-there-wont-be-a-r_n_301\
140.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/27/clinton-there-wont-be-a-r_n_30\
1140.html




[FairfieldLife] Re: TV Review: Dollhouse Episode 1 Season 2

2009-09-27 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote:
 
 Enjoy while you can:
 Dollhouse death watch: Ratings worse than ever

I've watched every episode, and I won't be the least bit upset if it's 
canceled. It's an ok, mildly entertaining series.



[FairfieldLife] CBO: Public Option Saves Even More Money Than We Thought

2009-09-27 Thread do.rflex


According to Congress Daily
http://www.nationaljournal.com/congressdaily/cda_20090925_6347.php ,
the CBO says attaching the public plan to Medicare rates will save even
more money than originally thought:

In a bid to wrangle concessions from the Blue Dog Coalition on
healthcare reform, House leaders Thursday released CBO estimates for
liberals' preferred version of the public option that show $85 billion
more in savings than for the version the Blue Dogs prefer.

Rep. Stephanie Herseth Sandlin, D-S.D., a Blue Dog co-chair, said any
possible new momentum toward a public option tethered to Medicare rates
is, in part, because of the cost issue and the updated CBO score.

The original House bill required the public plan to pay providers 5
percent more than Medicare reimbursement rates. But as part of a package
of concessions to Blue Dogs, the House Energy and Commerce Committee
accepted an amendment that requires the HHS Secretary to negotiate rates
with providers. That version of the plan will save only $25 billion.

In total, a public plan based on Medicare rates would save $110 billion
over 10 years. That is $20 billion more than earlier estimates, a
spokesman for House Speaker Pelosi said.

In other words, the conservatives want to spend $85 billion more than
the liberals do. Moreover, the CBO is estimating savings to the
government. That is to say, the $85 billion reflects reduced federal
spending on subsidies because premiums in the public plan will be lower.
Savings to individuals and businesses paying lower premiums will be much
larger than $85 billion, and politically, much more important.

http://www.nationaljournal.com/congressdaily/cda_20090925_6347.php

via:


http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/cbo-good-public-option-saves-even\
-mor





[FairfieldLife] 65% Want Public Health Option

2009-09-27 Thread do.rflex

Poll: Public Option Favored By 65% Of Americans


A New York Times/CBS poll found that 65% of respondents want a public 
health care option, while only 26% opposed such a plan.

However, respondents said that President Obama had not been clear on 
health care reform. Fifty-five percent said he had not explained his 
plan clearly, and many felt under-informed about the policies under 
discussion.

The Senate Finance Committee will vote on a government-run health 
insurance option Tuesday.

We're going to have a full blown debate in the Finance Committee, said
Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), a backer of the public option. While it may
be an underdog, Schumer said, don't count it out.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/25/poll-public-option-favore_n_299\
669.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/25/poll-public-option-favore_n_29\
9669.html







Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TV Review: Dollhouse Episode 1 Season 2

2009-09-27 Thread Bhairitu
Alex Stanley wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote:
   
 Enjoy while you can:
 Dollhouse death watch: Ratings worse than ever
 

 I've watched every episode, and I won't be the least bit upset if it's 
 canceled. It's an ok, mildly entertaining series.

Since I have so many entertainment options I more or less have to make a 
list of what shows I'm going to watch.  If they aren't up to 
expectations they fall off the list.  I watched Eastwick and decided 
it falls off my list. Not a bad show but not for me.  Heroes may too.  
I'll give Dollhouse three episodes (if it gets that far) to see how it 
goes.  I'm watching Fast Forward the same way.  I just signed up to 
Showtime for $7 for six months to catch Dexter, Californication and 
catch up on Weeds and Nurse Jackie.  HBO isn't going much head to 
head right now but because of an ordering glitch at Comcast for the HBO 
subscription they gave me 12 months for free.  Can't complain about that 
but I'll have to pay $18 a month for True Blood next season but 
considering the numbers that might be okay for 3 months.  HBO doesn't 
have the movie lineup that Showtime has or had but the HBO Argentine 
horror series is good.

Right now IFC OnDemand has the first season of the IT Crowd 
available.  Unfortunately it is just an upscaled SD widescreen version 
and my 9 year old HD set with overscan cuts off the top of heads.  
Getting itchier to get a new TV.  Fry's has the third season for $19 but 
not sure I want to buy it.  Hollywood Video doesn't have the series.   
Maybe time to resume my NetFlix subscription (which I had in the late 
1990s when they started up).




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can a movie be a good film or even a great film and not be Art?

2009-09-27 Thread Bhairitu
Some of the great composers took their melodies from bar songs of the 
day.  Some so bawdy they wouldn't publish them for us to read in college 
music history.  ;-)

TurquoiseB wrote:
 Rudely following up on my own rap :-), I've thought
 of a great example of my premise, although not one
 from the world of movies. I'm thinkin' William 
 Shakespeare.

 Shakespeare wrote for the television of his time.
 The Globe wasn't filled with nobles, except during
 command performances; it was filled with street
 rabble. And Shakespeare gave them what they wanted,
 and what they were used to.

 A professor of mine in college was a noted Shakes-
 pearian scholar whose particular schtick was digging
 through historical libraries to find where Shakes-
 peare's inspiration came from. Turns out that most
 of it came from the streets of London, in the form
 of the cheaply printed books and pamphlets that you
 could buy on any street corner for one pence. 

 They told stories that the common people wanted to
 hear. Stories about kings and queens and courtly
 intrigues. Stories about faraway mysterious islands, 
 like the ones that explorers of the time were saying 
 they'd found. Romantic tragedies. Romantic comedies.
 Ribald comedies. Stories about astrology, and the 
 influence of the stars. Stories about ghosts, and
 the influence of the dead.

 It's pretty much agreed upon among Shakespearian
 scholars that he stole *all* of his plots. But it's
 what he did with them that turned them into Art. He
 transcended the source material, transcended the
 formulas and the templates that his source material
 followed and that his audience expected him to follow, 
 and he transcended the audiences themselves, very few 
 of whom had any *clue* how brilliant the play they 
 were watching really was. 

 Shakespeare was an alchemist. He took lead and turned 
 it into gold. And he took formulas and templates and
 turned them into Art.




   




[FairfieldLife] FlashForward

2009-09-27 Thread TurquoiseB
No one's mentioned this new TV show, so I will. 
My brother told me about it with a great one-liner:
I've been trying NOT to find any new series that
are any good, because I don't want to wind up having
to watch another one every week. But damnit I think
I've found one. Based on that, I've been trying
to download it since Thursday, when it aired, and 
I finally got to see it tonight.

He was right -- it's interesting. Good production
values, good plot, good acting, heavyweight pro-
ducers, the whole tamale. It's obviously trying
to be the next Lost, and may succeed. ( Inter-
estingly, in a shot just before the pivotal event
in the series happens, you see a billboard on a
building in the distance advertising flights on
Oceanic Airways. :-)

Based on a 1999 scifi novel by Canadian author 
Robert J. Sawyer, it's set in our time, but some-
thing happens to take everyone out of time. And
I do mean everyone. At exactly the same moment,
everyone on Earth drops in their tracks and, while
they're out, have a two minute and 17 second 
flashforward, seeing (or being) themselves, but 
six months forward in time. 

Some of the visions are scary, catastrophic. One
of the reasons for this is obvious -- imagine what
happened during these 2 minutes 17 seconds to all
of the people driving cars, piloting planes, etc.
Some of the visions are shared, in that two people
who were in each others' vision remember the same
vision, and agree on details that happened to both
of them. 

The lead character is an FBI agent ( played by Joseph
Fiennes ), and his vision showed him in an office 
working on solving this very mystery -- WTF happened?
Others close to him, including his wife, had visions
that reinforce his own, but make him fear the future
that they all saw. One guy -- the FBI agent's sponsor
in AA -- sees a future in which the daughter he thought
had died in the Army in Afghanistan is still alive.
While others are afraid that their future might happen,
he is afraid that his won't.

LOTs of good plot material here, if it's done right.
The actors seem competent, the writing seems pretty
good, and the potential is there to create a very
interesting scifi series. Hope they do. I'll be
watching. Damnit.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Comparing American and British pronunciation

2009-09-27 Thread Bhairitu
My tantra guru has quite an accent which makes it difficult for 
westerners who aren't used to Indian speakers to understand him.  In the 
west we pronounce each vowel but he pronounces words often dropping the 
vowels which sounds like a bunch of consonants strung together.   This 
is common in India with words like yoga which they pronounce yog.  I 
recently heard this guy on a radio talk show discussing how he had to 
teach Canadian actors how to speak American English for US TV series.  
He also teaches many Indians accent reduction.  Note that he mentions 
pronouncing each vowel.
http://www.andykrieger.com/index.php

cardemaister wrote:
 http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Prevailingly

 Just noticed that it's possible to compare British
 and US pronunciation above. 

 US pronunciation is, IMO 

 1. sexier
 2. more relaxed
 3. lower pitched(?)

 Furthermore, British short i-sound feels to me a more
 pure, Italian type vowel than the corresponding American...




   



[FairfieldLife] Ramesh S. Balsekar May 25, 1917 - September 27, 2009

2009-09-27 Thread Rick Archer
Dear Friends,

It is with the heaviest of hearts I write to tell you of the passing of our
beloved Ramesh this morning at 9AM in his home in Bombay. His death was
quick and peaceful.

Ramesh was truly an extraordinary being. His life as a successful banker,
author and spiritual teacher directly enriched the lives of tens of
thousands of people.

Having met Ramesh was one of the defining moments of my life, as I am
certain it was for many of you reading this note. His generous spirit, open,
loving presence and spiritual Understanding combined to make him one of the
truly great Sages of the 20th century. We are truly blessed to have known
him...be it in person or through his Teaching.

Ramesh lives on. Though his body will this evening return to the elements,
his spirit lives on in his books and in the hearts of all of us who have
known him and loved him..

Twenty-two years ago Ramesh came into my life. Today his body leaves it. To
have been able to walk beside him for all this time and to have been able to
bow at his feet has been for me the greatest of life's blessings.I shall
miss not being able to sit with Ramesh, to watch a cricket match together or
to share some chocolate or to laugh at some silly joke he reads from the
newspaper. It is not the greatness of the man I will miss most...his
greatness remains undiminished by his death...it is the little things, the
human things..

Many of you will share with me the exquisite human pain of the loss of a
beloved one. If you take a moment to quietly look at it you may see in the
pain the wonder of Life itself. If so, it will truly be the Grace of The
Guru.

With much love,

Wayne


[FairfieldLife] Is Israel being taken over by religious extremists?

2009-09-27 Thread do.rflex

A hostile takeover of Zionism

  [An armed ultra-orthodox Jewish settler walks in the mountains
overlooking the Palestinian village of Burin in the West Bank.]
An armed ultra-orthodox Jewish settler walks in the mountains
overlooking the Palestinian village of Burin in the West Bank. AFP

Israel is teetering toward theocracy, with the rise of the Haredim

by Patrick Martin - Jerusalem


From Saturday's Globe and Mail Last updated on Saturday, Sep. 26, 2009

Israel's ultra-Orthodox Jewish community has come a long way.

No longer are they the inward-looking anti-Zionists who only cared that
the government provide them with money for their separate schools,
welfare and exemptions from military service. These days, many of the
Haredim – the word means those who tremble in awe of
God – have joined with right-wing religious Zionists to become
a powerful political force.

They now are equipped to redefine the country's politics and to set a
new agenda.

Two decades ago, they were confined mostly to a few neighbourhoods in
Jerusalem and Tel Aviv. Today, they have spread throughout the country,
in substantial numbers in several major communities, as well as building
completely new towns only for their followers.

One Haredi leader who almost won Jerusalem's mayoralty race last fall,
boasts that, within 20 years, the ultra-Orthodox will control the
municipal government of every city in the country. And why not? Of the
Jewish Israeli children entering primary school for the first time this
month, more than 25 per cent are Haredi, and that proportion will keep
growing. There are between 600,000 and 700,000 Haredim in Israel, and
they average 8.8 children a family.

A decade ago, there were almost no Haredim in the West Bank settlements.
Today, the two largest settlements are entirely ultra-Orthodox, and the
Haredim are about a third of the almost 300,000 settlers.

Now that they have tightened the rules on who can be a Jew and have
forced the public bus company to provide gender-segregated buses in many
communities, a discouraged secular community is starting to emigrate.

Nehemia Shtrasler, a business and political columnist for the Haaretz
newspaper, wrote this summer that the country is risking destruction.
We will survive the conflict with the Palestinians and even the
nuclear threats from Iran, he wrote. But the increasing
rupture between the secular and ultra-Orthodox communities in Israel
will be the end of us. Mr. Shtrasler said: It's a struggle
between two contradictory worldviews that cannot exist side by side.

Will Israel adhere to its founding secular values or will it become a
theocratic Jewish state?

Rabbi Mordechai Eliyahu has been toiling for decades to make Israel a
Halachic state (one that adheres to Jewish religious law). The former
chief Sephardi rabbi (from 1983 to 1993) was one of five men who founded
the Brit Hakanaim – the Covenant of Zealots – an underground
organization of the early 1950s that attacked non-kosher butcher shops
and torched cars that were driven on the Sabbath.

Rabbi Eliyahu was imprisoned for 10 months after an apparent plot to
attack the Knesset was uncovered. He said at his trial that Israel was
turning against God's will when it proposed a law to draft women into
the military. Their place is in the home, he insisted, and still
insists.

He was the spiritual adviser to Meir Kahane, founder of the racist Kach
Party that was banned from the Knesset, and later outlawed completely
when one of its members murdered 29 Muslims at prayer in Hebron in 1994.
He has long urged the release from prison of Yigal Amir, who
assassinated Yitzhak Rabin in 1995.

Rabbi Eliyahu had his greatest impact as spiritual leader of Israel's
National Religious Party. He believed that the line separating the
Orthodox from the Haredim was artificial and that many Haredim could be
brought into the nationalist camp.

The rabbi has an exclusive view of who really is a Jew, having denounced
Reform and Conservative synagogues as reeking of hell. And he
has often said that democracy has no place in Judaism.

SURPRISING MERGER

Rabbi Eliyahu and his followers have succeeded in tying the knot between
Haredim and religious nationalists. There is even a new name for the new
group, the Hardal, derived from Haredim and Mafdal (the acronym for the
National Religious Party).

While the NRP has disappeared, the ideas and the name have grown. The
powerful Shas Party, of Sephardi and Haredi disciples, is the best
example.

Together, the Hardal are 20 per cent of the Jewish population, says
Nachman Ben Yehuda, a sociologist at Hebrew University whose book on the
Haredim, Theocratic Democracy , is to be published next year.

Such a merger is quite a feat, considering the anti-Zionist origins of
the Haredim.

During the age of enlightenment in the 18th century, the first Haredi
communities took shape, as an attempt to maintain distinctive Jewish
communities when many Jews were being lured into liberal European
culture. 

Re: [FairfieldLife] TM-induced psychosis

2009-09-27 Thread Vaj


On Sep 27, 2009, at 1:59 PM, Rick Archer wrote:


NOT to work on the emotional level, but ONLY medications



So it's difficult to tell what exactly you're advocating Joerg.

It sounds like you may be suggesting work on the so-called emotional  
body.


This was once a big trend in TMers and sidhas. The theory was that TM  
was a dry meditation technique that transcended the emotional body  
and thus left a lot of unresolved material in this supposed emotional  
body. Plus the TM Org had a strong dogma against mood-making which  
further caused people to repress emotion, out of fear of being seen as  
off-the-program or, well, mood-makers. So for a time this was a big  
deal. People were going and getting their emotional bodies cleared.  
They had all sorts of breakthrough, cathartic experiences. Many felt  
it helped them.


Of course the danger was that you could become an flat, unemotional,  
dry zombie of a person--and that at any time this held-back emotion  
could decide to break through, causing a break down.


IIRC correctly, the techniques seemed to be a combination of  
rebirthing and massage. But I could be confusing this with some other  
trend sidhas were getting into in the late 80's.


Is this something similar to what you are advocating?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Can a movie be a good film or even a great film and not be Art?

2009-09-27 Thread ShempMcGurk
Martin Scorcese took a lot of flack when he made Casino because it was, 
virtually, a template of Goodfellas, even duplicating the Joe Pesci character 
essentially.

Well, that's true.  But if the formula is a good one and the director is so 
damn good at making the formula, I say he should make hundreds that way!



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:

 I had been thinking about this before the subject
 arose with Dollhouse, so I'll rap about it a bit
 more. Call me elitist, but I think that there is 
 a difference between good movies (or even great 
 movies) and those films I would call Art. Yes, 
 this is pure opinion on my part, and as such 
 purely subjective, but I have my reasons for 
 drawing such a distinction. 
 
 It has to do with formulas and templates. 
 *Dan Brown* writes using formulas and templates.
 He even *taught* writing. And he makes a gazillion
 dollars writing stuff that people think is good.
 Some probably think it's great. But I doubt that
 anyone considers it Art.
 
 A *great deal* of filmmaking and television is
 is based on templates. Three acts. X happens in 
 Act One, Y happens in Act Two, and Z happens in 
 Act Three. Boy meets girl, boy and girl fall in
 love, boy loses girl, boy finds girl again and 
 everybody lives happily ever after. Stranger rides 
 into River City and finds Trouble with a capital 
 T there, so the stranger kicks ass, cleans up 
 all the loose karma, and rides off into the sunset. 
 
 Someone can make a good movie -- or even a great
 movie -- by following templates. Case in point:
 Sergio Leone. His schooling as a filmmaker was
 to watch the films of the masters of his era. He
 then stole from each of them and put them together
 into movies of his own, some of which can be truly
 called great. But were they Art?
 
 I don't know. I'm just speculating and expressing
 personal preference here. But my feeling is that
 the thing that turns a great movie into Art is
 *breaking* the templates and fucking with them, 
 not following them.
 
 Case in point: Quentin Tarantino. Nothing could 
 *be* more formulaic and template-driven than the
 tale of a bunch of misfit soldiers who form into
 an elite band of warriors and do noble things. I
 mean, we're talkin' The Wild Bunch, or The
 Dirty Dozen, or even Seven Samurai. The whole
 idea just *reeks* of cliches. 
 
 But somehow Inglorious Basterds wasn't a cliche.
 It took all of the formulas and all of the templates
 and paid homage to them, but them *twisted* them and
 fucked with them as much as possible. 
 
 Maybe it's because I'm more than a little twisted
 myself, but I like that. :-) Once Upon A Time In The
 West might be a great movie, but I don't think it's
 Art. Inglorious Basterds, on the other hand, just
 may be Art.





[FairfieldLife] FlashForward: the series

2009-09-27 Thread emptybill
I would like to second Turq's recommendation to watch the series. The first 
episode was an interesting stake-out of the possibilities for seeing and/or 
changing the future. It is on ABC.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:

 LOTs of good plot material here, if it's done right.
 The actors seem competent, the writing seems pretty
 good, and the potential is there to create a very
 interesting scifi series. Hope they do. I'll be
 watching. Damnit.





[FairfieldLife] Re: The FFL Posting Limit Get Out Of Jail Free Card (Was: Post Count)

2009-09-27 Thread mainstream20016
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote:

 Bhairitu wrote:
  Just say the free week expires with 
  the six-month period.  No rollover... 
 
 Screw you and your silly TMO rules. I can
 go to Usenet and post anything I want to
 as many times as I want to. 
snip

Please, would you mind posting non-stop on Usenet ?




[FairfieldLife] Guru Dev [photo]- The physical body and the subtle body

2009-09-27 Thread do.rflex









- Guru Dev -
Shankaracharya Swami Brahmananda Saraswati





The senses and the body work only in accordance with man's mind. For
this reason it is a necessity to take care of the mind.

In man's life the sthula sharir (gross body) is not the most
important, the sukshma sharir (subtle body) is more important. The gross
body is merely the frame, managing it is the subtle body, the mind and
intelligence. The senses and the body work only in accordance with
man's mind. For this reason it is a necessity to take care of the
mind.

To make the mind pure, the author of the Yoga-Shastra has instructed
this method:-


`You should keep in mind these four conditions, maitri (friendship),
karuna (compassion), mudita (delight)  upeksha (indifference).'
[Yogadarshanam 1:33]


A feeling of friendship amongst those people equal to oneself and a
feeling of compassion for subordinates or those people that are sick.


With those who are more happy, more wise or more learned, or surpass you
to some degree, make sure you look at them with a feeling of happiness.


And with those who have a feeling of malice and hostility with you,
apply an attitude of indifference, so that you will not copy this
feeling of enmity and hatred.


In this manner, by keeping in mind these four vrittiyon (mental
conditions, of friendship, compassion, delight  indifference), then
envy, malice and jealousy etc. will not arise in the mind and the
mind's innate spirituality grows.


By so doing, no obstruction appears in everyday affairs and with the
disappearance of mental filth the instinctive longing for sensual
experiences becomes less and on this account the mind becomes opened
inside, praising and worshipping Bhagwan.


[Shri Shankaracharya UpadeshAmrita kaNa 34 of 108]
http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/UA_Hindi.htm#kaNa_34

translation Paul Mason © 2007, 2009
http://www.paulmason.info/paulmason/contactdetails.htm

http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/upadesh.htm#kaNa34
  http://www.paulmason.info/paulmason/contactdetails.htm


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[FairfieldLife] Re: Can a movie be a good film or even a great film and not be Art?

2009-09-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote:

 Some of the great composers took their melodies from bar
 songs of the day.  Some so bawdy they wouldn't publish them
 for us to read in college music history.  ;-)

Early Renaissance composers took the melody of a bawdy 
song and made it the cantus firmus of their sacred
choral pieces, extending each note of the melody over
several bars in one voice--often the bass--with
elaborate polyphony in the other voices. All in Latin,
of course.

Also, The Star-Spangled Banner was originally an
English drinking song called To Anacreon from Heaven.
You can tell it was a drinking song if you sing the
tune of the anthem fast, emphasizing the three-quarter
time and visualizing people holding up their glasses
and swinging them back and forth in rhythm.




Re: [FairfieldLife] FlashForward: the series

2009-09-27 Thread Bhairitu
Actually I mentioned the series back on the 22nd in my post about the 
Heroes season premiere and pointed to the abc.com web site where the 
first 17 minutes of the show could be previewed.  They certainly put on 
a show for 17 minutes but I got concerned about it sounding like just 
another video game set to TV.   One where you spend five seasons (what 
the producers have mapped out) to find who and why dunnit.   For me that 
gets a little tiresome.  We'll see if they can make it worth the 
viewer's time.  Apparently the series does not follow the book other 
than concept so the reason given in the book may not be the same.

emptybill wrote:
 I would like to second Turq's recommendation to watch the series. The first 
 episode was an interesting stake-out of the possibilities for seeing and/or 
 changing the future. It is on ABC.



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:

   
 LOTs of good plot material here, if it's done right.
 The actors seem competent, the writing seems pretty
 good, and the potential is there to create a very
 interesting scifi series. Hope they do. I'll be
 watching. Damnit.

 



   




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Ramesh S. Balsekar May 25, 1917 - September 27, 2009

2009-09-27 Thread emptybill
Balsekar made statements most Westerners cannot accept, such as 
everything that happens is the the will of Ishvara. If you accept
the declaration that the three gunas interact among themselves and that there 
is no doer then we must accept the logic of his assertion. 

If you declare that Ishvara/Ishvari (the cosmic ruler and lord of the gunas) is 
the sole doer then the same conclusion applies.

Read it and weep. 

**

Balsekar:

(...)Chapter 4: God's Will and Man's Free Will.

My experience has been that most visitors are able to accept the concept of 
God's will prevailing most of the time because they not only see the logic of 
it but, more importantly, they experience a feeling of tremendous relief and 
freedom: freedom from guilt and responsibility. But the problem arises because 
the concept of personal doership and the corresponding responsibility for their
actions is so deeply ingrained that they feel that the spirit of relief and 
freedom which they have felt may not be practical.

What the problem boils down to is this: 'Thy will be done is a very fine 
concept, but I have to live my life in a society which in practice does not 
accept this concept and holds me responsible for my actions. How do I live my 
life? What do I do every moment that I have to make a decision?'

This is a very valid argument. My answer to this problem is simple: do whatever 
you feel like doing; do whatever you think you should do according to your own 
standards of what is right and wrong. In other words, you have the free will to 
do whatever you choose to decide. Having decided to do whatever you choose to 
do, thereafter what is your own personal experience? Have all your decisions 
turned into actual actions? Supposing some of your decisions have indeed turned
into actions, have all those actions always produced the results that you have 
anticipated and for which you have held yourself responsible? The answer is 
obvious: some of your decisions have turned into actions, some have not; some 
of your actions have produced the anticipated results, some have not; indeed 
quite
a few of 'your' actions have produced results quite contrary to your
expectations. Therefore, it is your own experience that your free will extends 
merely to making a decision. What happens thereafter is, from your own 
experience, not in your control because various other factors come into play 
over which you have no control.

Now, let us investigate the supposed free will you have to make a decision. 
What is 'your' decision based on? If you investigate this point you will find 
out that you always base your decision on your 'programming', i.e. the genes or 
DNA and your conditioning which includes your education and practical 
experience, over which you truly have had no control. Recent research has 
brought out the
fact that many of your actions - both good and bad, positive and negative - can 
be traced to your genes. So consider for yourself: how genuine is my 'free 
will'?! (...)

(...) The final question that remains at this stage is: How does one acquire 
this total unconditional acceptance that all action is a divine happening and 
not the action of any individual person? The obvious answer is that no one can 
acquire or achieve this kind of acceptance about God's Will unless that itself 
is God's will! But one can take considerable solace from the fact that seeking 
this peace of mind has already happened in one's case through God's grace and it
is truly God's responsibility to further promote the process. In the words of 
Ramana Maharshi, 'Your head is already in the tiger's mouth, and there is no 
escape.' But, as has been said before, this fact that nothing can happen unless 
it is God's will does not prevent you from doing whatever you think you should 
do. You do have that apparent free will.

The only spiritual practice I usually recommend for the intellectual acceptance 
to go deeper into its finality is to experience the truth of this concept from 
personal experience. The ego may accept this concept of God's will 
intellectually, but the acceptance cannot reach the stage of finality unless 
the ego finds from its own investigation of its own personal experience that 
this concept is the truth as far as he or she is concerned. If only one thinks 
of one's own past experience, one is bound to come to the conclusion that all of
the more significant events in one's life were not one's own actions, but 
happenings over which one had hardly any control and which were the result of 
circumstances over which one had no control. But that is not enough to convert 
the concept into actual fact. This must be proved from personal experience from 
day to day.

There must be an honest and thorough investigation into what you think are 
'your' actions from day to day. This investigation is really one step further 
from Ramana Maharshi's famous 'Who am I?'. This investigation that I suggest is 

[FairfieldLife] Interesting Polanski debate....

2009-09-27 Thread ShempMcGurk
...going on at HuffingtonPost.  There's actually three different 
articles/commentaries with accompanying comments but here's one:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-farr/leniency-for-polanski_b_301269.html

As you may have heard, the Swiss arrested Roman Polanski on a warrant to be 
extradicted to the States for the drugging and rape of a 13-year-old back in 
the '70s, from which Polanski fleed prosecution.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Ramesh S. Balsekar May 25, 1917 - September 27, 2009

2009-09-27 Thread nelson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptyb...@... wrote:

 Balsekar made statements most Westerners cannot accept, such as 
 everything that happens is the the will of Ishvara. If you accept
 the declaration that the three gunas interact among themselves and that there 
 is no doer then we must accept the logic of his assertion. 
 
 If you declare that Ishvara/Ishvari (the cosmic ruler and lord of the gunas) 
 is the sole doer then the same conclusion applies.
 
 Read it and weep. 
 Fortunately, with our free will, we can believe it or not.
 **
 
 Balsekar:
 
 (...)Chapter 4: God's Will and Man's Free Will.
 
 My experience has been that most visitors are able to accept the concept of 
 God's will prevailing most of the time because they not only see the logic of 
 it but, more importantly, they experience a feeling of tremendous relief and 
 freedom: freedom from guilt and responsibility. But the problem arises 
 because the concept of personal doership and the corresponding responsibility 
 for their
 actions is so deeply ingrained that they feel that the spirit of relief and 
 freedom which they have felt may not be practical.
 
 What the problem boils down to is this: 'Thy will be done is a very fine 
 concept, but I have to live my life in a society which in practice does not 
 accept this concept and holds me responsible for my actions. How do I live my 
 life? What do I do every moment that I have to make a decision?'
 
 This is a very valid argument. My answer to this problem is simple: do 
 whatever you feel like doing; do whatever you think you should do according 
 to your own standards of what is right and wrong. In other words, you have 
 the free will to do whatever you choose to decide. Having decided to do 
 whatever you choose to do, thereafter what is your own personal experience? 
 Have all your decisions turned into actual actions? Supposing some of your 
 decisions have indeed turned
 into actions, have all those actions always produced the results that you 
 have anticipated and for which you have held yourself responsible? The answer 
 is obvious: some of your decisions have turned into actions, some have not; 
 some of your actions have produced the anticipated results, some have not; 
 indeed quite
 a few of 'your' actions have produced results quite contrary to your
 expectations. Therefore, it is your own experience that your free will 
 extends merely to making a decision. What happens thereafter is, from your 
 own experience, not in your control because various other factors come into 
 play over which you have no control.
 
 Now, let us investigate the supposed free will you have to make a decision. 
 What is 'your' decision based on? If you investigate this point you will find 
 out that you always base your decision on your 'programming', i.e. the genes 
 or DNA and your conditioning which includes your education and practical 
 experience, over which you truly have had no control. Recent research has 
 brought out the
 fact that many of your actions - both good and bad, positive and negative - 
 can be traced to your genes. So consider for yourself: how genuine is my 
 'free will'?! (...)
 
 (...) The final question that remains at this stage is: How does one acquire 
 this total unconditional acceptance that all action is a divine happening and 
 not the action of any individual person? The obvious answer is that no one 
 can acquire or achieve this kind of acceptance about God's Will unless that 
 itself is God's will! But one can take considerable solace from the fact that 
 seeking this peace of mind has already happened in one's case through God's 
 grace and it
 is truly God's responsibility to further promote the process. In the words of 
 Ramana Maharshi, 'Your head is already in the tiger's mouth, and there is no 
 escape.' But, as has been said before, this fact that nothing can happen 
 unless it is God's will does not prevent you from doing whatever you think 
 you should do. You do have that apparent free will.
 
 The only spiritual practice I usually recommend for the intellectual 
 acceptance to go deeper into its finality is to experience the truth of this 
 concept from personal experience. The ego may accept this concept of God's 
 will intellectually, but the acceptance cannot reach the stage of finality 
 unless the ego finds from its own investigation of its own personal 
 experience that this concept is the truth as far as he or she is concerned. 
 If only one thinks of one's own past experience, one is bound to come to the 
 conclusion that all of
 the more significant events in one's life were not one's own actions, but 
 happenings over which one had hardly any control and which were the result of 
 circumstances over which one had no control. But that is not enough to 
 convert the concept into actual fact. This must be proved from personal 
 experience from day to day.
 
 There must be 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ramesh S. Balsekar May 25, 1917 - September 27, 2009

2009-09-27 Thread yifuxero
-Right, having elements in common with other Neo-Advaitins, many of his 
statements are circular tautologies and contain no meaningful information other 
than such nonsensical platitudes as What will be, will be. He was another of 
the techniqueless Gurus. His teacher was Nisargadatta Maharaj, a favorite of 
Jerry J's.


R- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptyb...@... wrote:

 Balsekar made statements most Westerners cannot accept, such as 
 everything that happens is the the will of Ishvara. If you accept
 the declaration that the three gunas interact among themselves and that there 
 is no doer then we must accept the logic of his assertion. 
 
 If you declare that Ishvara/Ishvari (the cosmic ruler and lord of the gunas) 
 is the sole doer then the same conclusion applies.
 
 Read it and weep. 
 
 **
 
 Balsekar:
 
 (...)Chapter 4: God's Will and Man's Free Will.
 
 My experience has been that most visitors are able to accept the concept of 
 God's will prevailing most of the time because they not only see the logic of 
 it but, more importantly, they experience a feeling of tremendous relief and 
 freedom: freedom from guilt and responsibility. But the problem arises 
 because the concept of personal doership and the corresponding responsibility 
 for their
 actions is so deeply ingrained that they feel that the spirit of relief and 
 freedom which they have felt may not be practical.
 
 What the problem boils down to is this: 'Thy will be done is a very fine 
 concept, but I have to live my life in a society which in practice does not 
 accept this concept and holds me responsible for my actions. How do I live my 
 life? What do I do every moment that I have to make a decision?'
 
 This is a very valid argument. My answer to this problem is simple: do 
 whatever you feel like doing; do whatever you think you should do according 
 to your own standards of what is right and wrong. In other words, you have 
 the free will to do whatever you choose to decide. Having decided to do 
 whatever you choose to do, thereafter what is your own personal experience? 
 Have all your decisions turned into actual actions? Supposing some of your 
 decisions have indeed turned
 into actions, have all those actions always produced the results that you 
 have anticipated and for which you have held yourself responsible? The answer 
 is obvious: some of your decisions have turned into actions, some have not; 
 some of your actions have produced the anticipated results, some have not; 
 indeed quite
 a few of 'your' actions have produced results quite contrary to your
 expectations. Therefore, it is your own experience that your free will 
 extends merely to making a decision. What happens thereafter is, from your 
 own experience, not in your control because various other factors come into 
 play over which you have no control.
 
 Now, let us investigate the supposed free will you have to make a decision. 
 What is 'your' decision based on? If you investigate this point you will find 
 out that you always base your decision on your 'programming', i.e. the genes 
 or DNA and your conditioning which includes your education and practical 
 experience, over which you truly have had no control. Recent research has 
 brought out the
 fact that many of your actions - both good and bad, positive and negative - 
 can be traced to your genes. So consider for yourself: how genuine is my 
 'free will'?! (...)
 
 (...) The final question that remains at this stage is: How does one acquire 
 this total unconditional acceptance that all action is a divine happening and 
 not the action of any individual person? The obvious answer is that no one 
 can acquire or achieve this kind of acceptance about God's Will unless that 
 itself is God's will! But one can take considerable solace from the fact that 
 seeking this peace of mind has already happened in one's case through God's 
 grace and it
 is truly God's responsibility to further promote the process. In the words of 
 Ramana Maharshi, 'Your head is already in the tiger's mouth, and there is no 
 escape.' But, as has been said before, this fact that nothing can happen 
 unless it is God's will does not prevent you from doing whatever you think 
 you should do. You do have that apparent free will.
 
 The only spiritual practice I usually recommend for the intellectual 
 acceptance to go deeper into its finality is to experience the truth of this 
 concept from personal experience. The ego may accept this concept of God's 
 will intellectually, but the acceptance cannot reach the stage of finality 
 unless the ego finds from its own investigation of its own personal 
 experience that this concept is the truth as far as he or she is concerned. 
 If only one thinks of one's own past experience, one is bound to come to the 
 conclusion that all of
 the more significant events in one's life were not one's own actions, but 
 happenings 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi speaks on Karma (1962)

2009-09-27 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anatol_zinc anatol_z...@... wrote:

 excellent talk by Maharishi given in 1962, but here is my comment 2009:
 it is hard to follow Maharishi's advice( last few paragraphs ) during
 these extremely difficult times ;
 and it seems it was hard for Maharishi to follow his own advice;
 
 this was given in 1962, so for a few decades, he did really well
 
 focusing only on positivity, it seemed to me,
 
 but then he started to call President  Bush a rakshasa( a demon ); so
 these are truly difficult times for everyone
 
 but the advice Maharishi gave is still excellent
 
 and wise to try ones best
 
 



That to which one gives one's attention grows stronger in one's life, 
therefore, speaking ill of someone makes the influence of evil stronger in 
one's life, which retards evolution.

Maharishi's advice about speaking well of others (found throughout the Vedic 
literature: http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=10806621169topic=7189 )is 
only an aid to
the ignorant -- for an ignorant person, it's dangerous to spiritual
growth to speak ill of others, because it necessitates bringing in
that impurity from others and situating it in one's brain, in order
to speak ill of others. But for MMY and other enlightened people,
there is no danger of their minds becoming contaminated, since they are 
stationed in total awareness that cannot be contaminated or overcome by 
anything, so there is no need to avoid speaking ill of others because of a 
concern about impeding spiritual growth for themselves. What enlightened people 
say is just the voice of nature responding to the needs of the time --
the earth is terribly burdened now by wrongdoing, and MMY's harsh
criticism is just the cry of nature to stop mucking things up.




 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
 
  From an audio  (No 8) recorded in Hochgurgel in 1962
 
  (Thanks to Jörg Schenk)
 
 
  Maharishi speaks about  Karma
 
  Some selected points:
 
  Maharishi: Who is the doer (of the Karma)?  The doer is the ego,
 the
  mind. Although the senses perform the action, but the senses are not
 the
  doer. The doer is the thinker within. So the thinker, as long as it is
  associated with the body, it is associated with the body. But the doer
 is
  that thinker, that subtle body, that  Jiva.  If he casts away this
 body,
  goes to the other body, he will be caught by that action in the other
 body.
  Body doesn't matter. What matters is the doer and what he has done
 
  As I was saying, the vibrations (of the Karma) return from the wall,
 from
  the sun, from millions of miles. There are galaxies in the world from
 where
  the light takes millions of years to reach the earth. When the
 vibrations
  reach so far and strike against that and then will be rebound and come
 back,
  millions of years have passed already. So the effect of the Karma done
 now
  is not received all at once. It keeps on being received from time to
 time,
  for (?) all eternity.
 
  The effect in the vicinity of the doer is maximum, but the effect is
 created
  throughout the universe, whatever little effect at far distances, but
 it is
  created and all this effect has to come back
 
  Every second that we are producing some Karma, we are storing the
 fruit of
  that Karma to be born for millions of years
 
  Thoughts are the seed of Karma, very powerful seed. The seed in its
 seed
  status is very potent. If you have thoughts of injuring a man, you
 have
  injured the whole creation, already injured in the subtle state
 
  Future after death depends on what a man has done throughout life. But
 the
  next goal, where he will be born, mainly depends on the desire at the
 time
  of death, the desire at the time of death
 
  Question:  Is there a difference of a bad Karma done intentionally or
  unintentionally?
 
  Maharishi:  Intentionally, because his attention was there, then the
 effect
  will be more intensive. But the effect will be on the same line
 
  Question: If I have a bad son and have to beat him, is this bad Karma?
 
  Maharishi:   It is the Karma of the son that brings him beating and it
 is
  the Karma of the father that makes him sorry
 
  If I do some sin and in this room there is no one, I think nobody has
 seen
  it. But it has been exposed to the whole universe. Everyone in the
 universe
  knows it. And somehow that will be delivered to us back by all the
 agencies
  in the universe, knowing or unknowing.
 
  You can't stop the evolution. If you commit sin in the room, then you
 are
  creating sinful vibrations. And sinful vibrations means, wherever they
 go
  they damage the evolution of that thing.
 
  Someone speaks ill of the other and plans damaging him, very
 underknees
  plan, nothing on the surface, damaging the entire creation by his
 mischief.
  Because the agency of thought is just vibration. That is why
 scriptures
  forbid us speaking ill of others, or