[FairfieldLife] Old??

[card]

Meteor shut down by Russian air defence?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rajh1paSx1I&list=UU5mHubikVqEtWZi0U_oos8g&index=1

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Sexual Revolution: Polyamory May Be Good for You

[Ravi Chivukula]

"Ahem. Just back in from a fun day in Amsterdam. Two points:"

Now why would you say that Barry? I say bullshit.

I think this is what actually happened.

You made a miscalculation and made one too many posts ending at 50 - you
are too paranoid about not having the option to respond and you usually
play it safe and don't exceed 48 or 49.

You would have loved to fire one or two salvos before calling it a night.

You began to furiously count your posts from the last post count. No luck,
they kept adding up to 50 every goddamn time.

Now you were mad, pacing around the room agitatedly. Maya wanted attention
- you ignored her. Well - the dogs - you had no fucking choice, you cursed
the dogs and took them out for the night time walk.

You couldn't take it anymore - the clock showed 00:00 hours, drifted off
into a highly disturbed sleep - cursing and rolling in the bed - constantly
checking the clock.

But the stupid clock now showed 04:00 - you knew you had to calm down. You
knew the walk along the church would not help plus it was too early for the
dogs. What the fuck - no one on FFL would know - so you did the only
meditation you knew - your old TM mantra for about 20 mins.

And then started off writing at 04:30.

"*Ahem, I had a horrible night"* - but then you froze. What the fuck were
you thinking, were you losing your mind - no way in hell you would like
others to know about your inner state of turmoil.

Then you went backspace, backspace, full stop and continued *"Just back in
from a fun day in Amsterdam."*

On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 7:55 PM, turquoiseb wrote:

> **
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote:
> > >
> > > especially hilarious because you are pretty light-hearted on
> > > here, 'til now, and Barry, like he always does, thought he
> > > had found an easy mark, a dumping ground for his general
> > > dis-ease.
> >
> > Not for the first time, either. Obba brings out the
> > very worst of his sadistic tendencies.
> >
> > I highly recommend the commentary by Robin on one of
> > Barry's outbursts of sadism directed at Obba January
> > before last:
> >
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/301577
> >
> > Fans of Robin's takedowns will also enjoy two follow-up
> > posts of his responding to Barry's impotent attempts to
> > brush off the first one:
> >
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/301596
> >
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/301675
>
> Ahem. Just back in from a fun day in Amsterdam. Two points:
>
> 1. "I might also point out that searching the Web for information
> to use against somebody is standard cyberstalking behavior."
> - Judy Stein, 11 February 2013 :-)
>
> 2. "outbursts of sadism?" ALL that I said about obba, based
> on her first dumbass overreaction to the article Alex posted,
> was that she was an idiot and ignorant, and that based on
> that I could certainly understand why none of the guys she
> has flirted with here were interested in her. That's it.
> In contrast, THIS is what she posted in reply, going batshit
> crazy and claiming that I'd "snipped" (which I didn't). I
> don't see the self-defined cyberstalker above pointing THAT
> out to anyone. Crazy women of a feather flock together. :-)
>
> > Precisely why you took the time to snip and cut what this
> > post was in response too, and why you have much free time
> > to troll on FFL. Your crusty undies are showing, from the
> > shadow in the corner of the room, only lit by your laptop
> > LED screen, and your perverted mind makes clear your real
> > interest here, is to stroke your member and sip your drink
> > to an imaginary friend, you call intellectual soft porn,
> > waiting for the next gala to parade with your favorite
> > movie stars. Ahh, as the mangy castrated bull stands in
> > the field watching the real males hump their way to
> > offspring, something your squirt can only wish for
> > in the puddle of yellow spill below your belly. Tinkling
> > delight of your urine sooth, Turq thinks, "Who's wife can
> > I best beat off too, from this plastic keyboard orgasm
> > happening in front of me and I assume my penis is erect
> > for you oh cherished one."
> > Flirting? Flirting is your "imagination," for if this was
> > the case, the visual verbiage would lay in private message
> > as you so humbly write and respond to.
> > No, wait, the Turq knows when one is flirting and how can
> > it be the most ignorant would come like the Ganges River
> > and what single man with a working firm, wood, avoid what
> > nature? Cleanse yourself, bathe in the waters of real
> > women.
> > Turq, back to your movie fantasy of women above cunt status,
> > which is why you have never had a lasting relationship with
> > any woman in your whole life, including your Mother who was
> > glad to see you move away, that spurt your father left
> > behind, her nightmare result, she knew she had to raise y

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Writings of Meister Eckhart

[salyavin808]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "martin.quickman"  
wrote:
>
> Have always found his writings to be of the most interesting spiritual (not 
> necessarily religious) discourses. Inspirational, one might say. Here's one i 
> found that i like a lot.
> 
> 
> http://sathyasaimemories.wordpress.com/
>


Concepts like "soul" "god" and "heaven" don't strike you as
religious? Okay

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Backpacking --- Emily

[Ravi Chivukula]

On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 9:55 PM, Ann  wrote:

> **
>
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the update dear Emily, please take of yourself and promise me
> > that you will continue to read my posts first during that one hour - you
> > know me, I am needy like that and totally shameless to the boot in
> > demanding attention :-)
>
> Forget it Ravi, old boy. I want Emily's undivided attention. You already
> have the advantage with your bad boy good looks and dashing devil-may-care
> demeanor. So give your elders a little space and compensate for me just a
> little. I've had a hard day dealing with that Barry character; we all have
> to put in our share of community effort to keep him in his place. Your turn
> tomorrow.
>

LOL..ok dear Ann. Emily, if you can accommodate Ann's request :-)

And now I will go ahead and pile on Barry.

>
> > Love,
> > Ravi
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 9:17 AM, Emily Reyn wrote:
> >
> > > **
>
> > >
> > >
> > > Hey Ravi. Thanks for the thought. Here is an update for you. I left FFL
> > > and jumped quickly into my waiting space ship, concealed in a pink,
> cotton
> > > candy cloud of the finest spun sugar, headed to a final, undisclosed,
> > > vacation location on a warm sandy beach, where I was intending to
> meditate
> > > peacefully on my next employment opportunity. Unfortunately, it turns
> out
> > > that I had not atoned for as many sins here as I had hoped and in
> fact, I
> > > may have banked a few more. I'm currently on trial for being a new-age
> > > version of a Rakshasa and expect to be sentenced to purgatory and many
> > > hours of service to others to atone for my sins. So...long story short,
> > > it'll be a little while. Now, I *am* an escape artist of the highest
> order
> > > (and kind of proud of that fact), but this time, thanks to having outed
> > > myself here on FFL, my jailers have asked not just the one GOD, but
> many
> > > Gods, to watch over me and make sure I tow the line. My ego is
> > > surrendering - too many gods, too little time.
> > >
> > > I am allowed an hour a day to amuse myself as I please. I have enjoyed
> > > yours and Obba's contributions of late. Obba, my love, stick around.
> Loved
> > > the Onion piece, Judy! Ann, I didn't get a chance to say goodbye as you
> > > were undoubtedly making your way through one fabulous museum or maybe
> > > gazing serenely up at Big Ben, if the London thing worked out, but
> thank
> > > you always for being your wonderful self. The bell tolls, they are
> calling
> > > me back.
> > >
> > > Love, Emily
> > >
> > >
> > >
>

[FairfieldLife] The Writings of Meister Eckhart

[martin.quickman]

Have always found his writings to be of the most interesting spiritual (not 
necessarily religious) discourses. Inspirational, one might say. Here's one i 
found that i like a lot.


http://sathyasaimemories.wordpress.com/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Backpacking --- Emily

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
>
> Thanks for the update dear Emily, please take of yourself and promise me
> that you will continue to read my posts first during that one hour - you
> know me, I am needy like that and totally shameless to the boot in
> demanding attention :-)

Forget it Ravi, old boy. I want Emily's undivided attention. You already have 
the advantage with your bad boy good looks and dashing devil-may-care demeanor. 
So give your elders a little space and compensate for me just a little. I've 
had a hard day dealing with that Barry character; we all have to put in our 
share of community effort to keep him in his place. Your turn tomorrow.
> 
> Love,
> Ravi
> 
> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 9:17 AM, Emily Reyn  wrote:
> 
> > **
> >
> >
> > Hey Ravi.  Thanks for the thought.  Here is an update for you.  I left FFL
> > and jumped quickly into my waiting space ship, concealed in a pink, cotton
> > candy cloud of the finest spun sugar, headed to a final, undisclosed,
> > vacation location on a warm sandy beach, where I was intending to meditate
> > peacefully on my next employment opportunity.  Unfortunately, it turns out
> > that I had not atoned for as many sins here as I had hoped and in fact, I
> > may have banked a few more.  I'm currently on trial for being a new-age
> > version of a Rakshasa and expect to be sentenced to purgatory and many
> > hours of service to others to atone for my sins.  So...long story short,
> > it'll be a little while.  Now, I *am* an escape artist of the highest order
> > (and kind of proud of that fact), but this time, thanks to having outed
> > myself here on FFL, my jailers have asked not just the one GOD, but many
> > Gods, to watch over me and make sure I tow the line.  My ego is
> > surrendering - too many gods, too little time.
> >
> > I am allowed an hour a day to amuse myself as I please.  I have enjoyed
> > yours and Obba's contributions of late.  Obba, my love, stick around. Loved
> > the Onion piece, Judy!  Ann, I didn't get a chance to say goodbye as you
> > were undoubtedly making your way through one fabulous museum or maybe
> > gazing serenely up at Big Ben, if the London thing worked out, but thank
> > you always for being your wonderful self.  The bell tolls, they are calling
> > me back.
> >
> > Love, Emily
> >
> >
> >
> >   --
> > *From:* Ravi Chivukula 
> > *To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" 
> > *Sent:* Thursday, February 14, 2013 5:46 PM
> > *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Backpacking --- Emily
> >
> >
> > Welcome back Emily & Carol !!!
> >
> >
> > On Feb 14, 2013, at 4:51 PM, Emily Reyn  wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi Carol:
> >
> > I grew up in the Northwest and backpacked most of my childhood - 15 years
> > old.  These were family trips with cousins ranging from mostly "long
> > weekend" jaunts to a 2-week long trip in the high sierras at about 15.
> >  Then I took a long hiatus and left home for college and a wild ride
> > through my 20's.  Picked it up again with my kids and friends and did 3-5
> > day trips in the Cascade mountains.  Have been on many of the hikes in the
> > "100 hikes" book.  I upgraded finally and bought all new lighter-weight
> > gear, as "toughing it out" old-school became too much for me in my
> > mid-40's.  I don't like to feel like a mule any longer. Smile.
> >
> > Last summer I did 2 long camping trips (14 days and 10 days) on the WA
> > coast and Utah, respectively, with long day hikes, but no backpacking.  I
> > love being out there though - I had to step back a few years ago as I had
> > back and knee injuries from skiing to recover from.  I hope to go again
> > this summer.
> >
> > I've never hiked on the AT, but read the book "A Walk in the Woods" by
> > Bill Bryson, which was humorous.
> >
> > Seventy-one miles is a great accomplishment; must have been a fabulous
> > trip.  Emily.
> >
> >   --
> > *From:* Carol 
> > *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > *Sent:* Thursday, February 14, 2013 2:18 PM
> > *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Backpacking --- Emily
> >
> >
> > Hey Emily...
> >
> > Thought I'd bump this in case you missed it before.
> >
> > Cheers!
> > ~Carol :)
> >
> > ***
> >
> > Emily, you mentioned in another post that you backpack.
> >
> > Have you done much backpacking and where are some of the places you have
> > backpacked?
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > 
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Carol" wrote:
> > >
> > > Emily, you mentioned in another post that you backpack.
> > >
> > > Have you done much backpacking and where are some of the places you have
> > back packed?
> > >
> > > I just started backpacking in 2009. I've always loved the woods and have
> > been a day hiker all my life, but my health (in the past) kept from being
> > able to back pack. Finally (at age 49) I was well enough to give it a go.
> > >
> > > I've only done a little bit and my longest trip was only 71 miles.

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Sexual Revolution: Polyamory May Be Good for You

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > especially hilarious because you are pretty light-hearted on 
> > > > here, 'til now, and Barry, like he always does, thought he
> > > > had found an easy mark, a dumping ground for his general
> > > > dis-ease.
> > > 
> > > Not for the first time, either. Obba brings out the
> > > very worst of his sadistic tendencies.
> > > 
> > > I highly recommend the commentary by Robin on one of
> > > Barry's outbursts of sadism directed at Obba January
> > > before last:
> > > 
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/301577
> > > 
> > > Fans of Robin's takedowns will also enjoy two follow-up
> > > posts of his responding to Barry's impotent attempts to
> > > brush off the first one:
> > > 
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/301596
> > > 
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/301675
> > 
> > Ahem. Just back in from a fun day in Amsterdam. Two points:
> > 
> > 1. "I might also point out that searching the Web for information
> > to use against somebody is standard cyberstalking behavior."
> > - Judy Stein, 11 February 2013  :-)
> 
> Barry is just kidding here, folks. He knows you all know
> that citing past posts on the forum is not "searching the
> Web for information to use against somebody."
> 
> He also knows the last time he made this absurd claim a
> day or two ago, he got it even more disastrously wrong.
> 
> > 2. "outbursts of sadism?" ALL that I said about obba, based 
> > on her first dumbass overreaction to the article Alex posted,
> > was that she was an idiot and ignorant,

"All that I said..." As if calling someone an idiot and ignorant isn't grounds 
for affront.  You see Judy, he truly doesn't get it. Barry spits in someone's 
eye, stomps on their broken toe and kicks their dog and wonders why he isn't 
invited to the next party. " Huh, what did I do?" he asks.

 and that based on 
> > that I could certainly understand why none of the guys she
> > has flirted with here were interested in her. That's it. 
> > In contrast, THIS is what she posted in reply, going batshit 
> > crazy and claiming that I'd "snipped" (which I didn't).
> 
> Only Barry could write this without the slightest sense of
> how inadvertently ironic it is.
> 
> One thing is for sure, he can dish it out, but he can't
> take it.

Barry couldn't admit he'd farted even if the room caught on fire as a result.
> 
> Unless, of course, he uses sadism because he's really a
> masochist and gets his kicks by being repeatedly
> humiliated.

Nope, I stick by my theory that Barry is the most unobjective person I've ever 
encountered. He was the kid who, when caught with his face smeared with peanut 
butter, the jar in his hand and his tongue stuck to the roof of his mouth 
because of the giant wad of it in his mouth, would still deny that he had eaten 
any. Barry is a freak of nature.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  I 
> > don't see the self-defined cyberstalker above pointing THAT 
> > out to anyone. Crazy women of a feather flock together.  :-)
> > 
> > > Precisely why you took the time to snip and cut what this 
> > > post was in response too, and why you have much free time 
> > > to troll on FFL. Your crusty undies are showing, from the 
> > > shadow in the corner of the room, only lit by your laptop 
> > > LED screen, and your perverted mind makes clear your real 
> > > interest here, is to stroke your member and sip your drink 
> > > to an imaginary friend, you call intellectual soft porn, 
> > > waiting for the next gala to parade with your favorite
> > > movie stars. Ahh, as the mangy castrated bull stands in 
> > > the field watching the real males hump their way to 
> > > offspring, something your squirt can only wish for
> > > in the puddle of yellow spill below your belly. Tinkling 
> > > delight of your urine sooth, Turq thinks, "Who's wife can 
> > > I best beat off too, from this plastic keyboard orgasm 
> > > happening in front of me and I assume my penis is erect 
> > > for you oh cherished one."
> > > Flirting? Flirting is your "imagination," for if this was 
> > > the case, the visual verbiage would lay in private message 
> > > as you so humbly write and respond to.
> > > No, wait, the Turq knows when one is flirting and how can 
> > > it be the most ignorant would come like the Ganges River 
> > > and what single man with a working firm, wood, avoid what 
> > > nature? Cleanse yourself, bathe in the waters of real
> > > women.
> > > Turq, back to your movie fantasy of women above cunt status, 
> > > which is why you have never had a lasting relationship with 
> > > any woman in your whole life, including your Mother who was 
> > > glad to see you move away, that spurt your father left 
> > > behind, her nightma

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Sexual Revolution: Polyamory May Be Good for You

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > >
> > > especially hilarious because you are pretty light-hearted on 
> > > here, 'til now, and Barry, like he always does, thought he
> > > had found an easy mark, a dumping ground for his general
> > > dis-ease.
> > 
> > Not for the first time, either. Obba brings out the
> > very worst of his sadistic tendencies.
> > 
> > I highly recommend the commentary by Robin on one of
> > Barry's outbursts of sadism directed at Obba January
> > before last:
> > 
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/301577
> > 
> > Fans of Robin's takedowns will also enjoy two follow-up
> > posts of his responding to Barry's impotent attempts to
> > brush off the first one:
> > 
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/301596
> > 
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/301675
> 
> Ahem. Just back in from a fun day in Amsterdam. Two points:
> 
> 1. "I might also point out that searching the Web for information
> to use against somebody is standard cyberstalking behavior."
> - Judy Stein, 11 February 2013  :-)

Barry is just kidding here, folks. He knows you all know
that citing past posts on the forum is not "searching the
Web for information to use against somebody."

He also knows the last time he made this absurd claim a
day or two ago, he got it even more disastrously wrong.

> 2. "outbursts of sadism?" ALL that I said about obba, based 
> on her first dumbass overreaction to the article Alex posted,
> was that she was an idiot and ignorant, and that based on 
> that I could certainly understand why none of the guys she
> has flirted with here were interested in her. That's it. 
> In contrast, THIS is what she posted in reply, going batshit 
> crazy and claiming that I'd "snipped" (which I didn't).

Only Barry could write this without the slightest sense of
how inadvertently ironic it is.

One thing is for sure, he can dish it out, but he can't
take it.

Unless, of course, he uses sadism because he's really a
masochist and gets his kicks by being repeatedly
humiliated.




 I 
> don't see the self-defined cyberstalker above pointing THAT 
> out to anyone. Crazy women of a feather flock together.  :-)
> 
> > Precisely why you took the time to snip and cut what this 
> > post was in response too, and why you have much free time 
> > to troll on FFL. Your crusty undies are showing, from the 
> > shadow in the corner of the room, only lit by your laptop 
> > LED screen, and your perverted mind makes clear your real 
> > interest here, is to stroke your member and sip your drink 
> > to an imaginary friend, you call intellectual soft porn, 
> > waiting for the next gala to parade with your favorite
> > movie stars. Ahh, as the mangy castrated bull stands in 
> > the field watching the real males hump their way to 
> > offspring, something your squirt can only wish for
> > in the puddle of yellow spill below your belly. Tinkling 
> > delight of your urine sooth, Turq thinks, "Who's wife can 
> > I best beat off too, from this plastic keyboard orgasm 
> > happening in front of me and I assume my penis is erect 
> > for you oh cherished one."
> > Flirting? Flirting is your "imagination," for if this was 
> > the case, the visual verbiage would lay in private message 
> > as you so humbly write and respond to.
> > No, wait, the Turq knows when one is flirting and how can 
> > it be the most ignorant would come like the Ganges River 
> > and what single man with a working firm, wood, avoid what 
> > nature? Cleanse yourself, bathe in the waters of real
> > women.
> > Turq, back to your movie fantasy of women above cunt status, 
> > which is why you have never had a lasting relationship with 
> > any woman in your whole life, including your Mother who was 
> > glad to see you move away, that spurt your father left 
> > behind, her nightmare result, she knew she had to raise you 
> > to never reproduce. Window shopping in Amsterdam, need I 
> > say anymore?
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Sexual Revolution: Polyamory May Be Good for You

[turquoiseb]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > especially hilarious because you are pretty light-hearted on 
> > here, 'til now, and Barry, like he always does, thought he
> > had found an easy mark, a dumping ground for his general
> > dis-ease.
> 
> Not for the first time, either. Obba brings out the
> very worst of his sadistic tendencies.
> 
> I highly recommend the commentary by Robin on one of
> Barry's outbursts of sadism directed at Obba January
> before last:
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/301577
> 
> Fans of Robin's takedowns will also enjoy two follow-up
> posts of his responding to Barry's impotent attempts to
> brush off the first one:
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/301596
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/301675


Ahem. Just back in from a fun day in Amsterdam. Two points:

1. "I might also point out that searching the Web for information
to use against somebody is standard cyberstalking behavior."
- Judy Stein, 11 February 2013  :-)

2. "outbursts of sadism?" ALL that I said about obba, based 
on her first dumbass overreaction to the article Alex posted,
was that she was an idiot and ignorant, and that based on 
that I could certainly understand why none of the guys she
has flirted with here were interested in her. That's it. 
In contrast, THIS is what she posted in reply, going batshit 
crazy and claiming that I'd "snipped" (which I didn't). I 
don't see the self-defined cyberstalker above pointing THAT 
out to anyone. Crazy women of a feather flock together.  :-)

> Precisely why you took the time to snip and cut what this 
> post was in response too, and why you have much free time 
> to troll on FFL. Your crusty undies are showing, from the 
> shadow in the corner of the room, only lit by your laptop 
> LED screen, and your perverted mind makes clear your real 
> interest here, is to stroke your member and sip your drink 
> to an imaginary friend, you call intellectual soft porn, 
> waiting for the next gala to parade with your favorite
> movie stars. Ahh, as the mangy castrated bull stands in 
> the field watching the real males hump their way to 
> offspring, something your squirt can only wish for
> in the puddle of yellow spill below your belly. Tinkling 
> delight of your urine sooth, Turq thinks, "Who's wife can 
> I best beat off too, from this plastic keyboard orgasm 
> happening in front of me and I assume my penis is erect 
> for you oh cherished one."
> Flirting? Flirting is your "imagination," for if this was 
> the case, the visual verbiage would lay in private message 
> as you so humbly write and respond to.
> No, wait, the Turq knows when one is flirting and how can 
> it be the most ignorant would come like the Ganges River 
> and what single man with a working firm, wood, avoid what 
> nature? Cleanse yourself, bathe in the waters of real
> women.
> Turq, back to your movie fantasy of women above cunt status, 
> which is why you have never had a lasting relationship with 
> any woman in your whole life, including your Mother who was 
> glad to see you move away, that spurt your father left 
> behind, her nightmare result, she knew she had to raise you 
> to never reproduce. Window shopping in Amsterdam, need I 
> say anymore?

[FairfieldLife] Barbara Heinemann Landmann, Iowa mystic and saint in her time

[Buck]

 Saints, holy persons, Werkzeu visiting Iowa:  there was a mystic saint living 
in Iowa during the 19th Century.  A woman by the name of Barbara Heinemann .  
She was part of a lineage of mystical saints going back in Europe a long ways.  
 All along in Europe there were small groups that were independent of the 
established institutional churches of Popes, Lutherans, and Anglicans, small 
groups that met satsang-like often underground compelled by direct spiritual 
experiences.  Barbara Heinemann was of that and immigrated to America in the 
flow of people leaving the German civil wars and religious persecutions of the 
mid-19th Century.  She was a known spiritual and clairvoyant person in her time 
who eventually settled in Iowa and lived out her days here.  Of course this was 
long before saints and satgurus came visiting Fairfield and the TM anti-saint 
policies of recent years.

Her biography of course is interesting because of her connection to old lines 
of mysticism in the west.  But also for the presence of some difficult 
narcissistics [NPD] and seeming awakened who are part of the story-line of the 
spiritual progression.  It is interesting to see how in an age before modern 
mental health parameters it was then figured out by others and these NPD 
leaders themselves got isolated by the satsangs around them.  Wow, what a lot 
of travail some people can create. 

There are some number of biographies and books that include Barbara Heinemann.  
The Wikipedia page on her is pretty well organized and reads through very well. 
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Heinemann_Landmann

-Buck 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
>
> 
> >
> > 
> > > 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Om when the saints come visiting!
> > > > > > We can enumerate their visits to Fairfield:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mother Meera visiting with Fairfield.  
> > > > > >  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Meera
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >  Shree Maa visited with Fairfield.
> > > > > http://www.shreemaa.org/
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > Karunamayi in Fairfield:
> > > > http://www.karunamayi.org/
> > > >
> > > 
> > > An elder and saintly, Bapuji-Pujya Shree Prem Avadhootji was brought to 
> > > visit with Fairfield on his tour of America.
> > > 
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpYriW8dwPo 
> > >
> > 
> > Ammachi, she's been to Fairfield
> > http://amma.org/meeting-amma/north-america
> >
> 
> Saints, known more widely as a holy people by the spiritual work of their 
> life.
> 
> Master John Douglas has been visiting to Fairfield with some regularity.  
> Master John Douglas evidently is in an ascent to a kind of saintly stature as 
> a powerful healer and spiritual teacher.  http://www.spirit-repair.com/
> Runs an effective spiritual business earning quite a lot of money at the work 
> and un-like some others of the holy there are no evident humanitarian 
> programs or a community otherwise around his work.
>
> > > > >  
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In Fairfield we've been extremely fortunate to have had the 
> > > > > > > number of the great saints of our times visit Fairfield over the 
> > > > > > > years.  It's pretty incredible that they come and we have got to 
> > > > > > > have had such close and intimate time with some of them.  
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > the Yoga Vasistha:
> > > > > > > > A real preceptor is one who can produce blissful sensation in 
> > > > > > > > the body of the disciple by their sight, touch, or instructions.
> > > > > > > > The back story, A movement held hostage.  I got a friend who 
> > > > > > > > lunches with Bevan whence Bevan is in town and this friend says 
> > > > > > > > of Bevan that our Bevan is scared to death of saints for fear 
> > > > > > > > he might have a spiritual experience.   
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Life work of The holy. 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > On Saintly Healing Maharishi says, 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > "That is `The department of the Almighty does it`.
> > > > > > > > > It is not the individual - it is the department. And it is 
> > > > > > > > > only one way, it is
> > > > > > > > > not two ways. The help is not given, it is received. It is 
> > > > > > > > > received by our
> > > > > > > > > ability to attune with that.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > And that ability develops with devotion, surrender and 
> > > > > > > > > service. These three things - automatically one is elevated 
> > > > > > > > > to that level. And help doesn`t come from outside, it comes 
> > > > > > > > > from right were we are, from our own being.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > But those unaware of one`s own being have this mechanics to 
> > > > > > > > > hel

[FairfieldLife] Re: The law

[seventhray27]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...
 wrote:

Yes, it was actually the second point, which is the law of the land,
that states one can be convicted of intent, without having that intent
present. When I flat out told the prosecutor I couldn't go along with
that, he scribbled a notation on his marking board, and that was it.

What exactly does this mean?  I get premeditated murder.  I get second
degree murder. But say someone robs someone with a gun.  That person
reisists, and in the struggle over the gun the person being robbed gets
killed.  Where does intent come in here?  Or does it?  Or when does this
"intent" arise?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Shivabalayogi Maharaj

[doctordumbass]

Nothing to be superstitious about, nor something to take lightly. I've been 
into it for 32 years, and just getting my feet wet.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> It was difficult for me to buy into the whole formal education thing, while 
> growing up, because I have always disliked hearsay immensely, even if it 
> supposes to come from a credible source. 
> 
> So I'd put it somewhat differently - nothing wrong with exploration, while 
> always being aware of the equality between power and responsibility, and 
> exercising common sense. 
> 
> The easiest way in, is to purify oneself and enter the celestial worlds - 
> Then, if darker places are inadvertently discovered, you know your way home!
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > I've heard that entities from the astral realm can be quite competent at 
> > appearing to be positive and supportive.  Best to give it a total miss.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: "doctordumbass@" 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 11:59 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Shivabalayogi Maharaj
> >  
> > 
> >   
> > Yep - Its much better to cultivate a saatvic chemistry before wandering 
> > into other worlds. Then the purity of consciousness acts like a flashlight 
> > and compass, in both knowing where we are, and being able to visit the 
> > darkest places, without getting disoriented.
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Never mind Michael, it's okay.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I guess you saw that the post was to Sal, not navashok ?
> > > > 
> > > > Yes, I saw that post of yours. But when I saw the first post of 
> > > > Michael, it didn't hurt me. That's what I wanted to express. 
> > > > 
> > > > And I thought that you becoming the pope was a witty answer. But when 
> > > > you check out that master Jesus (different from the Maitreya) in Italy, 
> > > > you'll tell us, right?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Why not... Anyway, as the good DrDumbass has said innumerable times here 
> > > anyone can talk to any Master, Saint or God anytime, they are closer to 
> > > us than we might think :-) Just make sure you're not talking to your own 
> > > shadow or some kind of ghost like most "channellers" like the MJ-fellow 
> > > does.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > > Anyway it's rather interesting that this MJ character is posting 
> > > > > deleted posts here that was up for maximum 10 minutes. 
> > > > > I guess some people simply don't have a normal everday life.
> > > > >
> > > 
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Shivabalayogi Maharaj

[doctordumbass]

It was difficult for me to buy into the whole formal education thing, while 
growing up, because I have always disliked hearsay immensely, even if it 
supposes to come from a credible source. 

So I'd put it somewhat differently - nothing wrong with exploration, while 
always being aware of the equality between power and responsibility, and 
exercising common sense. 

The easiest way in, is to purify oneself and enter the celestial worlds - Then, 
if darker places are inadvertently discovered, you know your way home!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> I've heard that entities from the astral realm can be quite competent at 
> appearing to be positive and supportive.  Best to give it a total miss.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: "doctordumbass@..." 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 11:59 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Shivabalayogi Maharaj
>  
> 
>   
> Yep - Its much better to cultivate a saatvic chemistry before wandering into 
> other worlds. Then the purity of consciousness acts like a flashlight and 
> compass, in both knowing where we are, and being able to visit the darkest 
> places, without getting disoriented.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Never mind Michael, it's okay.
> > > > 
> > > > I guess you saw that the post was to Sal, not navashok ?
> > > 
> > > Yes, I saw that post of yours. But when I saw the first post of Michael, 
> > > it didn't hurt me. That's what I wanted to express. 
> > > 
> > > And I thought that you becoming the pope was a witty answer. But when you 
> > > check out that master Jesus (different from the Maitreya) in Italy, 
> > > you'll tell us, right?
> > 
> > 
> > Why not... Anyway, as the good DrDumbass has said innumerable times here 
> > anyone can talk to any Master, Saint or God anytime, they are closer to us 
> > than we might think :-) Just make sure you're not talking to your own 
> > shadow or some kind of ghost like most "channellers" like the MJ-fellow 
> > does.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > > Anyway it's rather interesting that this MJ character is posting 
> > > > deleted posts here that was up for maximum 10 minutes. 
> > > > I guess some people simply don't have a normal everday life.
> > > >
> > 
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Elizabeth Warren asks the right questions...

[Bhairitu]

and Wall Street whines like a bunch of spoiled brats.  Go get em Liz!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/15/elizabeth-warren-wall-street_n_2695212.html

"One would be because nobody believes that the banks' books are honest. 
Second, would be that nobody believes that the banks are really 
manageable. That is, if they are too complex either for their own 
institutions to manage them or for the regulators to manage them," she said.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Backpacking --- Emily

[Ravi Chivukula]

Thanks for the update dear Emily, please take of yourself and promise me
that you will continue to read my posts first during that one hour - you
know me, I am needy like that and totally shameless to the boot in
demanding attention :-)

Love,
Ravi

On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 9:17 AM, Emily Reyn  wrote:

> **
>
>
> Hey Ravi.  Thanks for the thought.  Here is an update for you.  I left FFL
> and jumped quickly into my waiting space ship, concealed in a pink, cotton
> candy cloud of the finest spun sugar, headed to a final, undisclosed,
> vacation location on a warm sandy beach, where I was intending to meditate
> peacefully on my next employment opportunity.  Unfortunately, it turns out
> that I had not atoned for as many sins here as I had hoped and in fact, I
> may have banked a few more.  I'm currently on trial for being a new-age
> version of a Rakshasa and expect to be sentenced to purgatory and many
> hours of service to others to atone for my sins.  So...long story short,
> it'll be a little while.  Now, I *am* an escape artist of the highest order
> (and kind of proud of that fact), but this time, thanks to having outed
> myself here on FFL, my jailers have asked not just the one GOD, but many
> Gods, to watch over me and make sure I tow the line.  My ego is
> surrendering - too many gods, too little time.
>
> I am allowed an hour a day to amuse myself as I please.  I have enjoyed
> yours and Obba's contributions of late.  Obba, my love, stick around. Loved
> the Onion piece, Judy!  Ann, I didn't get a chance to say goodbye as you
> were undoubtedly making your way through one fabulous museum or maybe
> gazing serenely up at Big Ben, if the London thing worked out, but thank
> you always for being your wonderful self.  The bell tolls, they are calling
> me back.
>
> Love, Emily
>
>
>
>   --
> *From:* Ravi Chivukula 
> *To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" 
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 14, 2013 5:46 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Backpacking --- Emily
>
>
> Welcome back Emily & Carol !!!
>
>
> On Feb 14, 2013, at 4:51 PM, Emily Reyn  wrote:
>
>
> Hi Carol:
>
> I grew up in the Northwest and backpacked most of my childhood - 15 years
> old.  These were family trips with cousins ranging from mostly "long
> weekend" jaunts to a 2-week long trip in the high sierras at about 15.
>  Then I took a long hiatus and left home for college and a wild ride
> through my 20's.  Picked it up again with my kids and friends and did 3-5
> day trips in the Cascade mountains.  Have been on many of the hikes in the
> "100 hikes" book.  I upgraded finally and bought all new lighter-weight
> gear, as "toughing it out" old-school became too much for me in my
> mid-40's.  I don't like to feel like a mule any longer. Smile.
>
> Last summer I did 2 long camping trips (14 days and 10 days) on the WA
> coast and Utah, respectively, with long day hikes, but no backpacking.  I
> love being out there though - I had to step back a few years ago as I had
> back and knee injuries from skiing to recover from.  I hope to go again
> this summer.
>
> I've never hiked on the AT, but read the book "A Walk in the Woods" by
> Bill Bryson, which was humorous.
>
> Seventy-one miles is a great accomplishment; must have been a fabulous
> trip.  Emily.
>
>   --
> *From:* Carol 
> *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 14, 2013 2:18 PM
> *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Backpacking --- Emily
>
>
> Hey Emily...
>
> Thought I'd bump this in case you missed it before.
>
> Cheers!
> ~Carol :)
>
> ***
>
> Emily, you mentioned in another post that you backpack.
>
> Have you done much backpacking and where are some of the places you have
> backpacked?
>
> [...]
>
> 
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Carol" wrote:
> >
> > Emily, you mentioned in another post that you backpack.
> >
> > Have you done much backpacking and where are some of the places you have
> back packed?
> >
> > I just started backpacking in 2009. I've always loved the woods and have
> been a day hiker all my life, but my health (in the past) kept from being
> able to back pack. Finally (at age 49) I was well enough to give it a go.
> >
> > I've only done a little bit and my longest trip was only 71 miles. I've
> done other short trips for a night or two.
> >
> > I live on the east coast in North Carolina, so the Appalachian Trail is
> in my back yard and I feel at home there. I have backpacked a small portion
> of the AT in New York.
> >
> > My high school dream was to thru-hike the AT some day. I got chronically
> sick at age 22 and was stuck in that chronic ill health for a few decades.
> >
> > But now my high school dream is alive again. I want to thru-hike the AT
> the year I turn 60 or before if life circumstances fall into place prior to
> the big six zero. But, I'm thinking I'll hike the upper half (Harper's
> Ferry to Katahdin) and then take a bus back to Harper's 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Download Avast Antivirus [was Re: DO NOT CLICK THIS LINK]

[Bhairitu]

On 02/15/2013 04:24 PM, navashok wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>> On 02/13/2013 04:08 AM, navashok wrote:
>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
 These are XSS exploits.  I installed a Firefox Add-On called "XSS Me"
 which will analyze a page for potential XSS exploits.  Most sites I
 visited produced nothing. Go to the FFL webpage and the thing goes
 crazy.  The Add-On is a geek tool and probably not for non-techs.
>>> Thanks for the tip, I also installed it now, but it didn't find any XSS 
>>> vulnerabilities on the Yahoo FFL website. The only complaints were that 
>>> certain special signs did not work.
>>>
>>> It's some years back that I looked into XSS, what it was. IIRC it is all 
>>> within the browser, it has really nothing to do with the OS. I guess if 
>>> somebody steals your session cookie, all you have to do is close your 
>>> browser, and delete the cookies for this site, correct?
>>>
>>> When I 'researched' it some years back, I managed to make a photo of my 
>>> friend appear on the official LAPD website, of course only in my browser if 
>>> follow the prepared link. (I didn't hack the page of course.)
>>>
>>>
>> I experienced the "effect" of the XSS trick when I signed up for
>> Google+.  Prior my blog comments using Disqus (which I despise but it's
>> made for lazy webmasters) used the Yahoo option.  Once I signed up for
>> Google+ (basically to comment on an Android developer survey) then
>> Disqus wanted to use Google+ and that took some work to undo. We have
>> this millennial generation of inexperienced "hot shot" programmers who
>> think that "everyone must be connected to the Internet all the time."
>> They also think we should spend all our time on social networking sites
>> and nag you like a 5 year old if you're not.
>>
>> This stuff is not my specialty but after the problem with Google+ a
>> security specialist I know who works for a telecom explained what was
>> going on and that the trick had been around for awhile.  I'm not
>> surprised nothing really happened on the FFL page because Yahoo
>> supposedly did fix the problem which they knew about for 6 months. I
>> just didn't have time to look up what the hell XSS Me was really doing
>> other than being a tool.  Also I read somewhere that Ubuntu had created
>> a block for it sometime in their version of Firefox (which I am running).
>>
> I'm running Ubuntu too, well an Ubuntu derivate, Linux Mint. I'm running 
> Linux now since I have a PC, I abandoned Windows totally, I don't even keep 
> it as a partition anymore. The last virus I saw was maybe 14 years ago on 
> Windows. Wait, maybe 3 years back when I went to Indian Internet caffees  and 
> used an USB stick there, they are full of viruses. I don't know why people 
> still use crap like Windows, unless you need very specialized software. Today 
> Linux is so much more easy to install, and you never will know what a virus 
> is, and above all, it's free with lots of free software. MY last PC I bought 
> without OS, why should I pay for the OS I don't even want?

I have been running Linux Mint on pendrives for years.  I've even 
considered moving from Ubuntu to it on this machine but for the moment 
will just do the update to 12.  There's too many development apps to 
consider and at that probably a bit of updates to do once I move from 10 
to 12.  Windows seems so clumsy after using Linux all these years and 
now some of the companies seem to have bad programmers and their updates 
are poor.  On my Windows 7 64-bit machine AMD's Catalyst update always 
seems to fail.  Sheesh!

My main problem on Ubuntu is I moved from an HP printer that ate ink or 
ran it on a timer (as some claim) to keep you buying cartridges. So I 
got a Kodak printer and like they said it doesn't seem to run on a timer 
and I get more pages out of cartridges.  HP has Linux support but 
Kodak's scanner support wasn't so good and a bit of a trick to get 
working and then some update a while back broke it so I have to fix 
that.  HP has Linux support because they sold and probably still sell 
Linux servers.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Spectacular Russian meteor videos

[Mike Dixon]

Had that happened over N. Korea, it could have triggered a war!

 


 From: authfriend 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 11:54 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Spectacular Russian meteor videos
   
 
   
 

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/02/15/video-captures-flaming-object-believed-to-be-meteorite/

http://tinyurl.com/a4neje7

WARNING: Turn your audio down a bit for any of the videos that
are said to have captured the sound of the explosion--it's
REALLY loud on some of them.

   
 

[FairfieldLife] Download Avast Antivirus [was Re: DO NOT CLICK THIS LINK]

[navashok]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> On 02/13/2013 04:08 AM, navashok wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >> These are XSS exploits.  I installed a Firefox Add-On called "XSS Me"
> >> which will analyze a page for potential XSS exploits.  Most sites I
> >> visited produced nothing. Go to the FFL webpage and the thing goes
> >> crazy.  The Add-On is a geek tool and probably not for non-techs.
> > Thanks for the tip, I also installed it now, but it didn't find any XSS 
> > vulnerabilities on the Yahoo FFL website. The only complaints were that 
> > certain special signs did not work.
> >
> > It's some years back that I looked into XSS, what it was. IIRC it is all 
> > within the browser, it has really nothing to do with the OS. I guess if 
> > somebody steals your session cookie, all you have to do is close your 
> > browser, and delete the cookies for this site, correct?
> >
> > When I 'researched' it some years back, I managed to make a photo of my 
> > friend appear on the official LAPD website, of course only in my browser if 
> > follow the prepared link. (I didn't hack the page of course.)
> >
> >
> 
> I experienced the "effect" of the XSS trick when I signed up for 
> Google+.  Prior my blog comments using Disqus (which I despise but it's 
> made for lazy webmasters) used the Yahoo option.  Once I signed up for 
> Google+ (basically to comment on an Android developer survey) then 
> Disqus wanted to use Google+ and that took some work to undo. We have 
> this millennial generation of inexperienced "hot shot" programmers who 
> think that "everyone must be connected to the Internet all the time."   
> They also think we should spend all our time on social networking sites 
> and nag you like a 5 year old if you're not.
> 
> This stuff is not my specialty but after the problem with Google+ a 
> security specialist I know who works for a telecom explained what was 
> going on and that the trick had been around for awhile.  I'm not 
> surprised nothing really happened on the FFL page because Yahoo 
> supposedly did fix the problem which they knew about for 6 months. I 
> just didn't have time to look up what the hell XSS Me was really doing 
> other than being a tool.  Also I read somewhere that Ubuntu had created 
> a block for it sometime in their version of Firefox (which I am running).
>
I'm running Ubuntu too, well an Ubuntu derivate, Linux Mint. I'm running Linux 
now since I have a PC, I abandoned Windows totally, I don't even keep it as a 
partition anymore. The last virus I saw was maybe 14 years ago on Windows. 
Wait, maybe 3 years back when I went to Indian Internet caffees  and used an 
USB stick there, they are full of viruses. I don't know why people still use 
crap like Windows, unless you need very specialized software. Today Linux is so 
much more easy to install, and you never will know what a virus is, and above 
all, it's free with lots of free software. MY last PC I bought without OS, why 
should I pay for the OS I don't even want?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Graphing Spiritual Leadership

[Buck]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Maybe that PhD topic is for you, Buck?  Hey thanks for the article on 
> Kepler.  Very interesting.
> 
>

PhD?  Ha, Thanks for the support but no, not me.  It will take some young buck 
academic who looks at it as their scholarly work.  We all living know where the 
story is and can certainly point researchers in the right direction.  That is 
going on.  I enjoy that work.  But I am too old now to learn to write in the 
way of The Chicago Manual of Style, 15th edition.  That will take a younger 
person.  Unless I partner with with a professional writer like Authfriend or 
Turqb here.  Life is too short though.  I got horses to train and oats to sow 
this next month.  Winter on the internet is about over.  
-Old Buck  
 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: Buck 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 7:48 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Graphing Spiritual Leadership
>  
> 
>   
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> >
> > It seems most everyone here in Fairfield has developed a graph somewhat 
> > like this that they work off of from their own experience in sorting 
> > [reconciling] the [moral] spiritual dissonance they've seen.
> > >
> 
> That, how they've reconciled their conscience, in itself would make an 
> interesting survey.  I'm telling ya, there is a PhD thesis in this here for 
> someone.
> 
> > > It is relatively helpful in looking at this holy subject to graph 
> > > comparatively the Saintly or Holy ones in a Distribution by Graphing 
> > > their Saintly Distribution as data pairs on a Cartesian  x-y axis. 
> > > 
> > > Graphing, 
> > > 
> > > For instance take:
> > > 1 Spiritual Transformative Impact On the Vertical axis.
> > > 2 The type of the holy person relatively on the horizontal axis.
> > > 
> > > 1 Vertical:
> > > 
> > > Holy
> > > 
> > > Moral
> > > 
> > > [Transforming Impact]
> > > 
> > > Immoral
> > > 
> > > Narcissistic
> > > 
> > > 2 Horizontal:  Avatar-Saintly, Satguru, guru, spiritual teacher, leader, 
> > > lecturer, author,,, reformer, etc... 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Then simply consider someone and place them in the graph.
> > > 
> > > A nice spiritually inclined academic like Phil Goldberg might be 
> > > somewhere around the moral-author turning to moral-lecturer on the graph. 
> > >  Mother Meera, Holy Avatar-Saintly.  Likewise Ammachi relatively.  
> > > Adyashanti somewhere around Moral-spiritual teacher.  Mother Teresa, 
> > > Holy-Saintly Moral-spiritual teacher.  Joe Stalin or Chairman Mao, 
> > > Narcissistic-leaders low down and over towards the right on the graph.  
> > > It's all relative and some people move on the graph in time.  It's a 
> > > flexible tool © to use to see the holy or less so this way.  The 
> > > Maharaja? Vivekanda? Different Popes?  Have fun. 
> > > -Buck
> > >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijau@  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > great guy but for those easily confused,its not Maharishi 
> > > > > > Mahesh Yogi nor Maharaja Adhiraja Rajaram!
> > > > > 
> > > > > Om, let's see: guru spiritual teachers, authors, lecturers; 
> > > > > but saints?  How do YOU see, Maharaj?  A spiritual teacher? 
> > > > > A folk with a transformative field effect [darshan]? Saintly? 
> > > > > Holy? Graceful? A Saint? Sat Guru? Doing spiritual work as 
> > > > > an empathetic and humanitarian in a nature of spiritual 
> > > > > character on earth?
> > > > >
> > > > > ie., Wiki:  Satguru (Sanskrit: सदगुरू) does not merely 
> > > > > mean 
> > > > > true guru. The term is distinguished from other forms of 
> > > > > gurus, such as musical instructors, scriptural teachers, 
> > > > > parents, and so on. The satguru is a title given specifically 
> > > > > only to an enlightened rishi/sant whose life's purpose is to 
> > > > > guide...the summation of which is the realization of 
> > > > > the Self through realization of God [the Unified Field], who 
> > > > > is omnipresent. A Satguru has some special characteristics 
> > > > > that are not found in any other types of Spiritual Guru." 
> > > > 
> > > > "People use the word 'guru' because 'charlatan' is so hard 
> > > > to spell."  -- Peter Drucker
> > > >
> >
>

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[FairfieldLife] "Interesting" speculation, and stuff!

[card]

http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/iml/iml05.htm

Random sample:

Caste (Varna) signifies "colour", but it is not certain whether the reference 
is to be given a physical or mythological application. The first three castes 
were Aryans, the fairest people; the fourth caste, that comprising the 
dark-skinned aborigines, was non-Aryan. "Arya", however, was not always used in 
the sense that we have been accustomed to apply "Aryo-Indian". In one of the 
sacred books of the ancient people it is stated: "The colour of the Brahmans 
was white; that of the Kshatriyas red; that of the Vaisyas yellow; and that of 
the Sudras black". 1 This colour reference connects "caste" with the doctrine 
of yugas, or ages of the universe (Chapter VI).

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What is your favorite romantic movie ever, and why?

[Ravi Chivukula]

Yes - mine are all Bollywood ones as well since I spent my impressionable
romantic obsessed teen years in India - but I'm still a hopeless romantic,
PRD - Pervasive Romantic Disorder.

My favorite - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qayamat_Se_Qayamat_Tak and
http://youtu.be/JSZvT0ik_lo

But - oh new-sorrow-less one, I drowned every time watching it, still do -
a tragic ending as well here - and I watched it about 7 times and every
single time I would feel the pain and be totally in tears at the end.


On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 3:52 PM, navashok  wrote:

> **
>
>
> I would go for Bollywood,
>
> Veer Zaara http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kNO5WntckU
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veer-Zaara
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0420332/
> (happy ending)
>
> Devdas http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTSMmOYHQN8
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devdas_%282002_Hindi_film%29
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0238936/
> (sad ending)
>
> Dil Se http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOYN9qNXmAw
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dil_Se..
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0164538/
> (sad ending)
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
> >
> > I like Ingrid Bergman from that era.  And Greer Garson.  Gregory Peck
> and Clark Gable.  As for TV, I'm still watching Numb3rs.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> > From: seventhray27
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 1:39 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What is your favorite romantic movie ever,
> and why?
> >
> >
> > Â
> >
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
> > Thanks, I love posts that make me think.  But oy, how to choose just
> one? Realize that for me the ideal romantic movie would have a leading man
> I really like. It would be funny, well written and have an excellent
> musical score. Â Last but not least ha ha, it would have a happy ending.
> But often the happy ending movies don't move me as much as the sad endings.
> Â As some here say, go figure!
> > Â An Affair To Remember with Cary Grant and Deborah Kerr.
> >
> >
> > Older movies are somewhat standard fare at our house. Â Anymore the TV
> is usually not on.Â
> >
> > But the last one we saw was Mildred Pierce. Â  I always start with a
> bias against them when they come on, but after about two or three minutes
> you're locked in. Â And that goes for the kids too.Â
> >
> > With Mildred Pierce, for example, Â it was fascinating to see L.A. in
> the late 40's. Â
> >
> > We even cycle through Perry Mason periodically. Â Really the acting,
> camera angles, and nuances of the more vintage film and TV are better than
> much of what you see today, at least IMO.
> >
>
>  
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: What is your favorite romantic movie ever, and why?

[navashok]

I would go for Bollywood, 

Veer Zaara http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kNO5WntckU
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veer-Zaara
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0420332/
(happy ending)

Devdas http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTSMmOYHQN8
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devdas_%282002_Hindi_film%29
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0238936/
(sad ending)


Dil Se http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOYN9qNXmAw
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dil_Se..
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0164538/
(sad ending)


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> I like Ingrid Bergman from that era.  And Greer Garson.  Gregory Peck and 
> Clark Gable.  As for TV, I'm still watching Numb3rs.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: seventhray27 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 1:39 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What is your favorite romantic movie ever, and 
> why?
>  
> 
>   
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> Thanks, I love posts that make me think.  But oy, how to choose just one? 
> Realize that for me the ideal romantic movie would have a leading man I 
> really like. It would be funny, well written and have an excellent musical 
> score.  Last but not least ha ha, it would have a happy ending. But often 
> the happy ending movies don't move me as much as the sad endings.  As some 
> here say, go figure!
>  An Affair To Remember with Cary Grant and Deborah Kerr.
> 
> 
> Older movies are somewhat standard fare at our house.  Anymore the TV is 
> usually not on. 
> 
> But the last one we saw was Mildred Pierce.   I always start with a bias 
> against them when they come on, but after about two or three minutes you're 
> locked in.  And that goes for the kids too. 
> 
> With Mildred Pierce, for example,  it was fascinating to see L.A. in the 
> late 40's.  
> 
> We even cycle through Perry Mason periodically.  Really the acting, camera 
> angles, and nuances of the more vintage film and TV are better than much of 
> what you see today, at least IMO.
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Sexual Revolution: Polyamory May Be Good for You

[Ravi Chivukula]

On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:46 AM, authfriend  wrote:

> **
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote:
> >
> > especially hilarious because you are pretty light-hearted on
> > here, 'til now, and Barry, like he always does, thought he
> > had found an easy mark, a dumping ground for his general
> > dis-ease.
>
> Not for the first time, either. Obba brings out the
> very worst of his sadistic tendencies.
>
> I highly recommend the commentary by Robin on one of
> Barry's outbursts of sadism directed at Obba January
> before last:
>

Good ones dear Judy - so this overt display of sadism directed towards Obba
let's us fine-tune his hatred towards women. Of course he apparently hates
strong, mature, intelligent women but at least the kind of woman that
totally drives him into this sadistic rage - so someone funny, witty,
loving, stable. Good to know.


>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/301577
>
> Fans of Robin's takedowns will also enjoy two follow-up
> posts of his responding to Barry's impotent attempts to
> brush off the first one:
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/301596
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/301675
>
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Sexual Revolution: Polyamory May Be Good for You

[Ravi Chivukula]

On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 3:12 PM, navashok  wrote:

> **
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
>
> > Oh poor Barry - I had a tear in my eye.
>
> I hope you didn't drown.
>

Right - that's why I specified " a tear" dear new-sorrow-less.


>
>  
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Sexual Revolution: Polyamory May Be Good for You

[navashok]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:

> Oh poor Barry - I had a tear in my eye.

I hope you didn't drown.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Uber-narcissists who would fit right in on FFL

[seventhray27]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long 
wrote:I haven't seen Princess Bride in such a long time.  I think the
library has it though. Yay!
I don't think you'll be disappointed.  If you like Johnny Depp and
Helena Bonham Carter, and a nice soundtrack, you might enjoy Sweeney
Todd.
Spike was a fabulous character.  I love that he got matched up too. 
After way too much deliberation I have to go with An Affair To Remember
with Cary Grant and Deborah Kerr.  I like how the 2 people grew through
adversity.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What is your favorite romantic movie ever, and why?

[Share Long]

I like Ingrid Bergman from that era.  And Greer Garson.  Gregory Peck and Clark 
Gable.  As for TV, I'm still watching Numb3rs.





 From: seventhray27 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 1:39 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What is your favorite romantic movie ever, and why?
 

  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
Thanks, I love posts that make me think.  But oy, how to choose just one? 
Realize that for me the ideal romantic movie would have a leading man I really 
like. It would be funny, well written and have an excellent musical score.  
Last but not least ha ha, it would have a happy ending. But often the happy 
ending movies don't move me as much as the sad endings.  As some here say, go 
figure!
 An Affair To Remember with Cary Grant and Deborah Kerr.


Older movies are somewhat standard fare at our house.  Anymore the TV is 
usually not on. 

But the last one we saw was Mildred Pierce.   I always start with a bias 
against them when they come on, but after about two or three minutes you're 
locked in.  And that goes for the kids too. 

With Mildred Pierce, for example,  it was fascinating to see L.A. in the late 
40's.  

We even cycle through Perry Mason periodically.  Really the acting, camera 
angles, and nuances of the more vintage film and TV are better than much of 
what you see today, at least IMO.
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Incoming!

[salyavin808]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> On 02/15/2013 12:41 PM, salyavin808 wrote:
> >
> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21468116
> >
> >
> 
> And the asteroid passed us on by.
>


Luckily!

I saw a bolide like the Russian one over the UK once.
Must have been around 1995, I was coming back from a party 
in the early morning in a friends convertible sports car with
the top down when something very bright like the Rusky one
but much faster, exploded above us showering smaller meteors
all over the sky. Amazing really, I jumped out of my skin.

My mate didn't believe me as he didn't see it but it was in the
papers the next day. It was visible over a lot of northern 
Europe so it must have been a lot higher than the Russian one 
and probably made of less dense material. Bit of a fluke me 
lying back and looking at the sky just as it came in. 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Shivabalayogi Maharaj

[Share Long]

I've heard that entities from the astral realm can be quite competent at 
appearing to be positive and supportive.  Best to give it a total miss.





 From: "doctordumb...@rocketmail.com" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 11:59 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Shivabalayogi Maharaj
 

  
Yep - Its much better to cultivate a saatvic chemistry before wandering into 
other worlds. Then the purity of consciousness acts like a flashlight and 
compass, in both knowing where we are, and being able to visit the darkest 
places, without getting disoriented.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Never mind Michael, it's okay.
> > > 
> > > I guess you saw that the post was to Sal, not navashok ?
> > 
> > Yes, I saw that post of yours. But when I saw the first post of Michael, it 
> > didn't hurt me. That's what I wanted to express. 
> > 
> > And I thought that you becoming the pope was a witty answer. But when you 
> > check out that master Jesus (different from the Maitreya) in Italy, you'll 
> > tell us, right?
> 
> 
> Why not... Anyway, as the good DrDumbass has said innumerable times here 
> anyone can talk to any Master, Saint or God anytime, they are closer to us 
> than we might think :-) Just make sure you're not talking to your own shadow 
> or some kind of ghost like most "channellers" like the MJ-fellow does.
> 
> 
> 
> > > Anyway it's rather interesting that this MJ character is posting deleted 
> > > posts here that was up for maximum 10 minutes. 
> > > I guess some people simply don't have a normal everday life.
> > >
> 
> >
>


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] More on polyamory

[Share Long]

I think it's unhappy families who contribute to the problems in the world.  It 
doesn't matter what their form is.  As for the Mitterand situation, as much as 
I admire Mrs. Mitterand's acceptance of responsibility and the friendliness 
between her and her husband's mistress, I can't help but wonder how it was for 
those two boys growing up with their father living somewhere else at night.  





 From: turquoiseb 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 4:12 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] More on polyamory
 

  
Since I'm having fun rapping about this subject, and 
because I suspect it'll push a few buttons here ( and
you know how I love that :-), I'll continue to use up
my posts for this week early before heading into 
Amsterdam for the day. 

In retrospect my made-up word "monogamaphobes" was
ill-considered, and probably should have been something
like "polyamoraphobes." I *have* met a few monogamaphobes
among my extended family's polyamorous friends -- those
who look down on monogamy as much as monogamists look
down on polyamory -- but I have very little tolerance
for them, as do my housemates. We're more of the 
"different strokes for different folks" and "live and 
let live" persuasion. 

Why this whole polyamory thing appeals to me is the some-
what remarkable degrees of *honesty* I've found in some
people who practice it. That and the lack of one of the
afflictive emotions, jealousy. They tend to believe that
requiring a romantic partner to "love only them" makes
as little sense as feeling that one cannot love one's
parents or friends if one has a wife or husband. (Or,
obviously, that one cannot love one's primary spiritual
teacher if one visits others.) That's just "love as 
property" thinking. Icky. Low vibe. 

Most of the sad history of planet Earth has been the
result of people raised by nuclear monogamous families.
That doesn't seem to me to be a great commercial for
the concept. :-)


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Incoming!

[Bhairitu]

On 02/15/2013 12:41 PM, salyavin808 wrote:
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21468116
>
>

And the asteroid passed us on by.

[FairfieldLife] Incoming!

[salyavin808]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21468116

[FairfieldLife] Re: The law

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
(snip)
> The only time I actually sat through a jury selection most
> of the folks (who were mostly seniors) said they disagreed
> with our drug laws (it was a drug case) and that got them
> off the jury.

That's what I said at the one voir dire I experienced, and
I was excused too (this was well before I was a senior).

I'd have been happy to have been picked if it hadn't been a
drug case (and if it weren't going to go on forever).

[FairfieldLife] Spectacular Russian meteor videos

[authfriend]

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/02/15/video-captures-flaming-object-believed-to-be-meteorite/

http://tinyurl.com/a4neje7

WARNING: Turn your audio down a bit for any of the videos that
are said to have captured the sound of the explosion--it's
REALLY loud on some of them.

[FairfieldLife] Re: What is your favorite romantic movie ever, and why?

[seventhray27]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long 
wrote:Thanks, I love posts that make me think.  But oy, how to
choose just one? Realize that for me the ideal romantic movie would have
a leading man I really like. It would be funny, well written and have an
excellent musical score.  Last but not least ha ha, it would have a
happy ending. But often the happy ending movies don't move me as much as
the sad endings.  As some here say, go figure! An Affair To Remember
with Cary Grant and Deborah Kerr.
Older movies are somewhat standard fare at our house.  Anymore the TV is
usually not on.
But the last one we saw was Mildred Pierce.   I always start with a bias
against them when they come on, but after about two or three minutes
you're locked in.  And that goes for the kids too.
With Mildred Pierce, for example,  it was fascinating to see L.A. in the
late 40's.
We even cycle through Perry Mason periodically.  Really the acting,
camera angles, and nuances of the more vintage film and TV are better
than much of what you see today, at least IMO.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The law

[Bhairitu]

The in house attorney at the software company I worked for in the 1990s 
said he would never want me on the stand or on a jury.  Like many 
programmers I pick things apart and on jury duty might well hang a jury. 
The only time I actually sat through a jury selection most of the folks 
(who were mostly seniors) said they disagreed with our drug laws (it was 
a drug case) and that got them off the jury.  I would have honestly said 
the same thing but they got their jury before it was my turn.  The last 
time I sat around the morning and before noon the judge came in and said 
to come back in the afternoon but the thought that the cases would be 
settled out of court.  I came back and put money in the meeting.  About 
20 minutes later I was on my way home as the cases had been settled out 
of court.

On 02/15/2013 10:36 AM, John wrote:
> With this experience, I don't believe the prosecuting attorneys will ever let 
> you in the jury box.  Which could be a good thing, since you'll be excused 
> from serving through the jury duties.  But the defending attorneys will want 
> you in there since you will be their man for their client.
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>> Interesting experience recently - got called for jury duty, a murder trial - 
>> Was empaneled with 17 others (12 jurors, four alternates, and two let go, 
>> after the voir dire - tell the truth - phase).
>>
>> When questioned, I mentioned in court, before a sizable audience (~170 
>> people), that I would completely discount the witness testimony of cell 
>> mates to the defendant, using the logic that these people are already 
>> criminals - Why would they tell the truth now?
>>
>> Also, there is a point of law, that specifies a person can be convicted of 
>> the intent to murder, even if that intent was not present. I said I could 
>> not accept that, either.
>>
>> Also referred to an incident thirty years ago, where I was intentionally 
>> commanded by a cop, hand on his holster, to drive myself, my wife, and a 
>> friend, the wrong way, down a one way street. So although I have met some 
>> excellent police officers, I am now initially skeptical of them.
>>
>> When the prosecutor asked me if he could do anything for me to regain my 
>> impartiality, I said, "Well, you could find that cop...". Brought down the 
>> house.:-)
>>
>> I was one of the two let go - (the other could not comprehend English well 
>> enough).
>>
>> Thoughts? Do you agree? Would you have spoken up?
>>
>
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] The law

[Bhairitu]

On 02/15/2013 10:21 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote:
> Interesting experience recently - got called for jury duty, a murder trial - 
> Was empaneled with 17 others (12 jurors, four alternates, and two let go, 
> after the voir dire - tell the truth - phase).
>
> When questioned, I mentioned in court, before a sizable audience (~170 
> people), that I would completely discount the witness testimony of cell mates 
> to the defendant, using the logic that these people are already criminals - 
> Why would they tell the truth now?
>
> Also, there is a point of law, that specifies a person can be convicted of 
> the intent to murder, even if that intent was not present. I said I could not 
> accept that, either.
>
> Also referred to an incident thirty years ago, where I was intentionally 
> commanded by a cop, hand on his holster, to drive myself, my wife, and a 
> friend, the wrong way, down a one way street. So although I have met some 
> excellent police officers, I am now initially skeptical of them.
>
> When the prosecutor asked me if he could do anything for me to regain my 
> impartiality, I said, "Well, you could find that cop...". Brought down the 
> house.:-)
>
> I was one of the two let go - (the other could not comprehend English well 
> enough).
>
> Thoughts? Do you agree? Would you have spoken up?

Our jury system needs a complete revision.   For me it's like they are 
spying on me and when I get really busy on a project they send out a 
jury summons.  I have to ask for a delay.  When I do that I make sure I 
put it on a Weds as I found one is actually less likely to be needed 
that way.  The county court house is in this town but the only jury I 
actually have needed to report to is in Walnut Creek and they have 
little parking and you have to pay for parking on the street though I 
know a stretch where there are no meters.

Here you just put the summons parking permit on your dashboard and use a 
meter but put no money in it.  The parking folks if they actually come 
around to check will look at the dashboard. I know that because two 
weeks ago as I was walking back to my car as I knew the meter was about 
to run out the meter maid was there but looked at my dashboard for the 
permit before starting to write me up.  I shouted that I was about to 
leave and she smiled and moved on. I figure that she must have just seen 
the meter change to expired as she walked up so a parking ticket 
wouldn't have been fair. The meters are electronic and flash green when 
money is in them (making it easy to find one that has time left) and red 
when expired.  You can also use your credit card with them.

But the parking probably discourages people coming into the the town to 
shop and jurors are only looking for cheap places to eat and there 
aren't that many of those.  The restaurants want to cater to the fat 
pocket lawyers.  We need and the council is fumbling around with the 
idea of a juror parking garage and take out meters entirely to spur 
downtown business.  It could be a good boutique town though two things 
discourage that 1) the nearby refinery which steers people away and 2) 
malcontents wandering the streets after being let out of jail.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for the Indians on FFL

[Bhairitu]

So what happens when you think about British bangers, beans and chips? :-D

On 02/14/2013 10:46 PM, salyavin808 wrote:
> "How about when Maharishi said that one day we'd only have to think the name 
> of an herb to get the result?"
>
> I think that's already true, I certainly never got any results
> from MAV products...
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>> Whoa, that's interesting about the importance of not taking a remedy too 
>> long.  How about when Maharishi said that one day we'd only have to think 
>> the name of an herb to get the result?  My neighbors gave me some cuttings 
>> from a bacopa plant.  Evidently it's making the rounds in FF.  I made sure 
>> I got the name as well (-:
>>
>>
>> Even low tech me got the joke about Linux.
>>
>>
>> 
>>   From: Bhairitu
>> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 1:29 PM
>> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Question for the Indians on FFL
>>   
>>
>> Â
>> On 02/13/2013 02:15 PM, Share Long wrote:
>>> Wow, this is the first time I've heard of Sanatana Dharma.
>> I'm amazed at that.  Not only does MMY mentioned it in the Gita but the
>> SCI tapes too (if my memory serves me well).  He didn't invent that
>> either because it is well known in Indian philosophy.  To be fair MMY
>> just passes on a lot of stuff that is just standard Indian philosophy.
>> I think some TM people think he discovered it.  I'm not even surprised
>> that he observed that capitalism was on it's way to a fall.  You don't
>> have to be enlightened to see that.  Just follow the logical order of
>> things, keep the blinders off and look at the world from a global not
>> compartmentalized view.
>>
>>> Thanks for posting.  Also enjoyed your post comparing body to a car.  I've 
>>> often thought that if we knew in advance how much maintenance our vehicle 
>>> would need, we might not purchase it in the first place (-:
>> Maybe we need a "lemon law" for bodies. :-D
>>
>> My mother carried me when she had hypoglycemia so I figure my weak
>> adrenals are from that.   Our bodies change all the time so I've never
>> figured that unless your doshas are very polarized that one meeting then
>> another a month away would be very helpful.  Dr. Lad points out that you
>> might only even need to use some ayurvedic cure for as little as a day
>> to get results (sorta like taking an aspirin) and even a week later you
>> could have flipped to the opposite dosha if you stay on it longer than
>> needed.
>>
>>>
>>> And about TM distracting people from becoming movers and shakers...I 
>>> thought it was the other way around.  That it's the world of movers and 
>>> shakers that's a distraction.  Sometimes I think 200% of life might have 
>>> been Maharishi's most revolutionary idea.
>> Not his idea either. Just standard Indian philosophy.  All he was doing
>> was packaging it for western minds. As for movers and shakers, the
>> original idea of professionals in some field teaching TM on the side was
>> a great idea.  About a year after I returned from TTC he declared that
>> the centers should be given over to the new MIU graduates.  Well this
>> was about as smart as paying kids who just graduated from college with a
>> BS in computer science a $120K a year job.  They didn't have enough
>> "experience in life" and turned off a lot of the meditating community.
>> Most should have had a year or two of apprenticeship in the field rather
>> than "taking over".  That was when a lot of teachers began questioning
>> their involvement in TM. Of course having a few zealots appoint
>> themselves as "TM Gestapo" didn't help either.
>>
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] What is your favorite romantic movie ever, and why?

[Share Long]

Thanks, I love posts that make me think.  But oy, how to choose just one?!  
Realize that for me the ideal romantic movie would have a leading man I really 
like.  It would be funny, well written and have an excellent musical score.  
Last but not least ha ha, it would have a happy ending.  But often the happy 
ending movies don't move me as much as the sad endings.  As some here say, go 
figure!

An Affair To Remember with Cary Grant and Deborah Kerr.  Witty, great music, 
and both characters go through hardship and change for the better.

Close runners up:
Shogun
Becoming Jane
Witness
   






 From: turquoiseb 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 8:08 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] What is your favorite romantic movie ever, and why?
 

  
Sitting here again in my old favorite people-watching cafe in Amsterdam, I 
watch the couples ( and, in keeping with my earlier theme of polyamory, 
sometimes ménages-à-trois or ménages-à-many :-) walking by, still in the 
afterglow of Valentine's Day, and I found myself pondering what to write about 
in my last FFL post of the week. 

I decided on the Subject line above as a topic. Hopefully folks who pile on to 
it as a thread-starter will do so in the same spirit as it is intended, as an 
invitation to talk about something we love, rather than things we...uh...don't. 
Besides, I'm honestly curious as to the choice FFL denizens would make if asked 
to name one -- and ONLY one -- film that they consider the Most Romantic Film 
Ever, for them. 

Don't be embarrassed about 'fessing up -- few films you could name could be as 
revealing as my favorite romantic film of all time (reviewed below). :-) I 
watched it again yesterday, as is my
 habit on Valentine's Day, and loved it as much in probably my sixtieth viewing 
of it as I did in my first. I've *studied* this film, analyzed it over the 
years frame by frame, and consider it one of the only PERFECT films ever made. 
It was one of those Great Film Debuts That Weren't Followed Up By Similar 
Greatness, a writer-director's first film, in which he pretty much shot his 
wad. Many, including possibly the writer-director himself, have been 
disappointed that he didn't follow up his initial brilliance with more of the 
same.

But it was still a perfect film IMO, and stands as a monument to the attempt to 
put everything you've got -- body and soul -- into making a serious cinematic 
statement. And all of this in the trappings of a fable, an artform that many 
people consider incapable of saying anything serious. I'd review it in depth 
for you, but I already did, a few years ago, so I'll recycle that one (which is 
more about the film as spiritual
 fable than romantic fable, but take my word for it, the two aren't that far 
apart) rather than attempting a Do-Over. 

But I really am curious as to which film the folks on Fairfield Life would name 
if asked -- as they just were -- to name their single favorite romantic film of 
all time, and why they feel that way. I think such a thread would be fun.


The
Teachings of Don Juan 

When you live in a small French village half an hour from
the nearest movie theater, and you have a large collection of DVDs, you kinda
become the de facto lending library.  People
drop by often to borrow the ones they want to see.  And one of the questions 
they always ask when
confronted with the shelves and shelves of movies is, "What's your
favorite film?"  For any film lover this
can be a daunting question. 

Unless you actually know, that is.  I know.  I'm somewhat ashamed to admit it, 
given the
way the world reacts to hopeless romantics, but I know.  My favorite film 
(watching it again as I write
this) is Jeremy Leven's Don Juan de Marco. 

Yeah, yeah...I know.  "Ick...Uncle
Tantra's favorite movie is a chick flick."  I get that a lot.  Personally, I 
think the film is much more a
guy flick than a chick flick, but I would love it even if it had received a 
five-star
review from Cosmo. 

As a film fan I would love it because it's impeccable.  I have seen the film 
literally dozens of
times, and cannot detect a flaw in either the script or the execution of that
script.  I would also love it for its acting.  Johnny Depp, who always seems to 
give
his best, does so again.  Faye Dunaway
just eats the camera in the few scenes she is in, and steals the whole movie
with one line.  And Marlon Brando comes
out of a long somnambulism to deliver a surprisingly touching and vibrant 
performance. 

As an artist, I would love the film because it is one of
those devote-your-life-to-creating-one-memorable-work-of-art kinda movies.  
Jeremy Leven wrote and directed, and supposedly
struggled for years to get the film made.  It shows. 

As a hopeless romantic, I would love it because it is
arguably the most romantic film ever made.  If you are hopelessly burdened with 
being a
hopeless romantic, how could you not love lines like: 

"There are only four q

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Sexual Revolution: Polyamory May Be Good for You

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> especially hilarious because you are pretty light-hearted on 
> here, 'til now, and Barry, like he always does, thought he
> had found an easy mark, a dumping ground for his general
> dis-ease.

Not for the first time, either. Obba brings out the
very worst of his sadistic tendencies.

I highly recommend the commentary by Robin on one of
Barry's outbursts of sadism directed at Obba January
before last:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/301577

Fans of Robin's takedowns will also enjoy two follow-up
posts of his responding to Barry's impotent attempts to
brush off the first one:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/301596

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/301675







 The thing is, about Barry going around offending
> people (and calling it tantric opinion - wtf?), is eventually
> someone will smack him good, like you just did. His ears are
> probably still ringing! 


> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > he's probably lamenting pissing you off - LOL
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > >
> > > Yes, Ann!  
> > > He sounds depressed because he watches two women give to one man and they 
> > > ain't inviting him in!  He waits for a rebound bonk, but will not be 
> > > successful. Poor guy. heh
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Your comments are hilarious Ann!! Barry is not making much sense here, 
> > > > granted. He seems to focus on the very worst prejudices in others, and 
> > > > take that as the basis for argument. Sounds depressed. Hope you had a 
> > > > great Valentines Day! 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Oh yeah, baby, free love if you let me. Lick that extra 
> > > > > > > wet lick lick lick your face and all. Oh, don't forget 
> > > > > > > that rubber! Hey, give me a full physical for everyone 
> > > > > > > who swings and I will be a millionaire! 
> > > > > > > Did you know that venereal disease is pretty common 
> > > > > > > among the aging population? They like to wank the wong 
> > > > > > > to barren wombs of the love canal! No pregnancy and 
> > > > > > > viagra..whoopie! 
> > > > > > > If it ain't good enough, time to wonder what her snatch 
> > > > > > > feels like..and hers and his is bigger and turns to the 
> > > > > > > left a bit more..
> > > > > > > Good for you my ass. It means you are fucking bored with 
> > > > > > > your partner. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I shall allow this idiocy to stand on its own as an
> > > > > > example of why obba has never succeeded in her attempts 
> > > > > > to flirt with guys on FFL. Who could even *imagine* 
> > > > > > getting it on with someone that ignorant?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Whoa, why the extreme reaction here Barry? Did you know that there 
> > > > > are ways to address a difference of opinion with reason, class, 
> > > > > openness and diplomacy? Yes indeed, it's true.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Instead I'll focus in one of my last posts for the 
> > > > > > week on the excellent article that Alex found and 
> > > > > > posted. It's about bloody time that someone did some 
> > > > > > real studies on polyamorous relationships, to help 
> > > > > > overcome the idiotic ideas that monogomaphobes have 
> > > > > > about them. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > We get the picture, anyone who is a monogomaphobe (which, of course 
> > > > > is not even close to being a real word) is an "idiot". Oh, and you 
> > > > > are about to enlighten all of us on why and how open minded and 
> > > > > enlightened you are on the subject. Let's take a look:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Living as I do as a non-involved fly on the wall in a
> > > > > > polyamorous household, I have a more realistic picture
> > > > > > of what is involved in nonmonogamous relationships than
> > > > > > most. If there is a single word that characterizes the 
> > > > > > successful ones I've seen, that word is *honesty*. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Oh, you are amazing. And what an original conclusion. "Honesty" 
> > > > > who would have thought? And all this time I thought it was about how 
> > > > > good looking the other partner was that kept a relationship intact.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > It's not about the sex, or as the idiot above suggests,
> > > > > > about being bored with one's partner. It's about having
> > > > > > the freedom to have more than one partner if one is
> > > > > > "drawn that way." Claiming that "there can be only one"
> > > > > > is as stupid in romantic relationships as it is for the
> > > > > > people who claim that "seeing other teachers" is suffic-
> > > > > > ient grounds to excommunica

Re: [FairfieldLife] The law

[Share Long]

Great story, Doc.  And I did speak up a few years ago in Des Moines.  A 
prisoner was accusing prison guards of brutality.  And let me tell you, those 
guards looked very brutal.  Also, strangely enough, the prisoner reminded me 
vaguely of my ex husband.  So yes, I also got excused (-:





 From: "doctordumb...@rocketmail.com" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 12:21 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] The law
 

  
Interesting experience recently - got called for jury duty, a murder trial - 
Was empaneled with 17 others (12 jurors, four alternates, and two let go, after 
the voir dire - tell the truth - phase). 

When questioned, I mentioned in court, before a sizable audience (~170 people), 
that I would completely discount the witness testimony of cell mates to the 
defendant, using the logic that these people are already criminals - Why would 
they tell the truth now?

Also, there is a point of law, that specifies a person can be convicted of the 
intent to murder, even if that intent was not present. I said I could not 
accept that, either.

Also referred to an incident thirty years ago, where I was intentionally 
commanded by a cop, hand on his holster, to drive myself, my wife, and a 
friend, the wrong way, down a one way street. So although I have met some 
excellent police officers, I am now initially skeptical of them.

When the prosecutor asked me if he could do anything for me to regain my 
impartiality, I said, "Well, you could find that cop...". Brought down the 
house.:-)

I was one of the two let go - (the other could not comprehend English well 
enough). 

Thoughts? Do you agree? Would you have spoken up? 


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Uber-narcissists who would fit right in on FFL

[doctordumbass]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> I haven't seen Princess Bride in such a long time.  I think the library has 
> it though.  Yay!
> 
> 
> Spike was a fabulous character.  I love that he got matched up too.  

**Right! I forgot that... He deserved it - a lot of innocent hearts in that 
movie...
> 
> After way too much deliberation I have to go with An Affair To Remember with 
> Cary Grant and Deborah Kerr.  I like how the 2 people grew through adversity.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: "doctordumbass@..." 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 11:43 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Uber-narcissists who would fit right in on FFL
>  
> 
>   
> The Graduate was good - my nomination. Notting Hill was good too, especially 
> the scene with Spike in the wet suit.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long 
> > wrote:Yes, we all seem to like the body parts that project out (-:
> > Switching gears a little, Steve, what about turq's topic, your favorite
> > romantic movie of all time?
> 
> 
> > Wow, checking in for a second, and this may take some thought.  Got to
> > go through, high school years, college years, ...adult
> > years.let's see, Princess Bride comes up,.okay, I
> > cheated and looked at a list, but really nothing else jumped out at me. 
> > I like "West Side Story", I like "Up", I like "Paper Moon", (although
> > not really a romance movie, but sweet nonetheless),  I like "It's a
> > Wonderful Life".
> > I'll go with "Princess Bride".
> > And you?
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Uber-narcissists who would fit right in on FFL

[Share Long]

I haven't seen Princess Bride in such a long time.  I think the library has it 
though.  Yay!


Spike was a fabulous character.  I love that he got matched up too.  


After way too much deliberation I have to go with An Affair To Remember with 
Cary Grant and Deborah Kerr.  I like how the 2 people grew through adversity.




 From: "doctordumb...@rocketmail.com" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 11:43 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Uber-narcissists who would fit right in on FFL
 

  
The Graduate was good - my nomination. Notting Hill was good too, especially 
the scene with Spike in the wet suit.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27"  wrote:
>
> 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long 
> wrote:Yes, we all seem to like the body parts that project out (-:
> Switching gears a little, Steve, what about turq's topic, your favorite
> romantic movie of all time?


> Wow, checking in for a second, and this may take some thought.  Got to
> go through, high school years, college years, ...adult
> years.let's see, Princess Bride comes up,.okay, I
> cheated and looked at a list, but really nothing else jumped out at me. 
> I like "West Side Story", I like "Up", I like "Paper Moon", (although
> not really a romance movie, but sweet nonetheless),  I like "It's a
> Wonderful Life".
> I'll go with "Princess Bride".
> And you?








 

[FairfieldLife] Re: The law

[doctordumbass]

Yes, it was actually the second point, which is the law of the land, that 
states one can be convicted of intent, without having that intent present. When 
I flat out told the prosecutor I couldn't go along with that, he scribbled a 
notation on his marking board, and that was it.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
>
> With this experience, I don't believe the prosecuting attorneys will ever let 
> you in the jury box.  Which could be a good thing, since you'll be excused 
> from serving through the jury duties.  But the defending attorneys will want 
> you in there since you will be their man for their client.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > Interesting experience recently - got called for jury duty, a murder trial 
> > - Was empaneled with 17 others (12 jurors, four alternates, and two let go, 
> > after the voir dire - tell the truth - phase). 
> > 
> > When questioned, I mentioned in court, before a sizable audience (~170 
> > people), that I would completely discount the witness testimony of cell 
> > mates to the defendant, using the logic that these people are already 
> > criminals - Why would they tell the truth now?
> > 
> > Also, there is a point of law, that specifies a person can be convicted of 
> > the intent to murder, even if that intent was not present. I said I could 
> > not accept that, either.
> > 
> > Also referred to an incident thirty years ago, where I was intentionally 
> > commanded by a cop, hand on his holster, to drive myself, my wife, and a 
> > friend, the wrong way, down a one way street. So although I have met some 
> > excellent police officers, I am now initially skeptical of them.
> > 
> > When the prosecutor asked me if he could do anything for me to regain my 
> > impartiality, I said, "Well, you could find that cop...". Brought down the 
> > house.:-)
> > 
> > I was one of the two let go - (the other could not comprehend English well 
> > enough). 
> > 
> > Thoughts? Do you agree? Would you have spoken up?
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: The law

[John]

With this experience, I don't believe the prosecuting attorneys will ever let 
you in the jury box.  Which could be a good thing, since you'll be excused from 
serving through the jury duties.  But the defending attorneys will want you in 
there since you will be their man for their client.





--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> Interesting experience recently - got called for jury duty, a murder trial - 
> Was empaneled with 17 others (12 jurors, four alternates, and two let go, 
> after the voir dire - tell the truth - phase). 
> 
> When questioned, I mentioned in court, before a sizable audience (~170 
> people), that I would completely discount the witness testimony of cell mates 
> to the defendant, using the logic that these people are already criminals - 
> Why would they tell the truth now?
> 
> Also, there is a point of law, that specifies a person can be convicted of 
> the intent to murder, even if that intent was not present. I said I could not 
> accept that, either.
> 
> Also referred to an incident thirty years ago, where I was intentionally 
> commanded by a cop, hand on his holster, to drive myself, my wife, and a 
> friend, the wrong way, down a one way street. So although I have met some 
> excellent police officers, I am now initially skeptical of them.
> 
> When the prosecutor asked me if he could do anything for me to regain my 
> impartiality, I said, "Well, you could find that cop...". Brought down the 
> house.:-)
> 
> I was one of the two let go - (the other could not comprehend English well 
> enough). 
> 
> Thoughts? Do you agree? Would you have spoken up?
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Sexual Revolution: Polyamory May Be Good for You

[Ravi Chivukula]

On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 8:01 AM, obbajeeba  wrote:

> **
>
>
> Thank you too, Dr. Du M. Bass.
> It takes a village to raise the Turq. His mother didn't do it.
>

Oh poor Barry - I had a tear in my eye.


>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote:
> >
> > obbajeeba, I enjoy your strength and dignity - It Rocks! Thank you.
>
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh yeah, baby, free love if you let me. Lick that extra
> > > > > wet lick lick lick your face and all. Oh, don't forget
> > > > > that rubber! Hey, give me a full physical for everyone
> > > > > who swings and I will be a millionaire!
> > > > > Did you know that venereal disease is pretty common
> > > > > among the aging population? They like to wank the wong
> > > > > to barren wombs of the love canal! No pregnancy and
> > > > > viagra..whoopie!
> > > > > If it ain't good enough, time to wonder what her snatch
> > > > > feels like..and hers and his is bigger and turns to the
> > > > > left a bit more..
> > > > > Good for you my ass. It means you are fucking bored with
> > > > > your partner.
> > > >
> > > > I shall allow this idiocy to stand on its own as an
> > > > example of why obba has never succeeded in her attempts
> > > > to flirt with guys on FFL. Who could even *imagine*
> > > > getting it on with someone that ignorant?
> > > >
> > > Precisely why you took the time to snip and cut what this post was in
> response too, and why you have much free time to troll on FFL. Your crusty
> undies are showing, from the shadow in the corner of the room, only lit by
> your laptop LED screen, and your perverted mind makes clear your real
> interest here, is to stroke your member and sip your drink to an imaginary
> friend, you call intellectual soft porn, waiting for the next gala to
> parade with your favorite movie stars. Ahh, as the mangy castrated bull
> stands in the field watching the real males hump their way to offspring,
> something your squirt can only wish for in the puddle of yellow spill below
> your belly. Tinkling delight of your urine sooth, Turq thinks, "Who's wife
> can I best beat off too, from this plastic keyboard orgasm happening in
> front of me and I assume my penis is erect for you oh cherished one."
> > > Flirting? Flirting is your "imagination," for if this was the case,
> the visual verbiage would lay in private message as you so humbly write and
> respond to.
> > > No, wait, the Turq knows when one is flirting and how can it be the
> most ignorant would come like the Ganges River and what single man with a
> working firm, wood, avoid what nature? Cleanse yourself, bathe in the
> waters of real women.
> > > Turq, back to your movie fantasy of women above cunt status, which is
> why you have never had a lasting relationship with any woman in your whole
> life, including your Mother who was glad to see you move away, that spurt
> your father left behind, her nightmare result, she knew she had to raise
> you to never reproduce. Window shopping in Amsterdam, need I say anymore?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Instead I'll focus in one of my last posts for the
> > > > week on the excellent article that Alex found and
> > > > posted. It's about bloody time that someone did some
> > > > real studies on polyamorous relationships, to help
> > > > overcome the idiotic ideas that monogomaphobes have
> > > > about them.
> > > >
> > > > Living as I do as a non-involved fly on the wall in a
> > > > polyamorous household, I have a more realistic picture
> > > > of what is involved in nonmonogamous relationships than
> > > > most. If there is a single word that characterizes the
> > > > successful ones I've seen, that word is *honesty*.
> > > >
> > > > It's not about the sex, or as the idiot above suggests,
> > > > about being bored with one's partner. It's about having
> > > > the freedom to have more than one partner if one is
> > > > "drawn that way." Claiming that "there can be only one"
> > > > is as stupid in romantic relationships as it is for the
> > > > people who claim that "seeing other teachers" is suffic-
> > > > ient grounds to excommunicate someone from a spiritual
> > > > organization. And even in that parallel, as we all know
> > > > from the history of the TMO, people are willing to
> > > > *overlook* "straying" to other teachers AS LONG AS
> > > > THOSE WHO DO IT *LIE* ABOUT IT. It's the *openness*
> > > > and the *non-willingness* to lie about one's actions
> > > > or apologize for them that the sexual prudes and the
> > > > spiritual fascists hate.
> > > >
> > > > I've seen the non-lying, open approach to relationships
> > > > WORK, and work well in nonmonogamous relationships.
> > > > Alas, I cannot say that for most of the monogamous
> > > > relationships I've been exposed to. While publicly
> > > > clinging to the

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Sexual Revolution: Polyamory May Be Good for You

[doctordumbass]

She's like me - not a lot of boundaries, and always willing to save a 
dollar.:-) Has no interest whatsoever in meditation - that was Dad's job - came 
in already free.:-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > Reminded me of yesterday when I called my daughter, who lives in San 
> > Francisco, and asked her what she was doing for Valentine's Day, and she 
> > said she was going out to dinner with three girlfriends, and then added 
> > matter-of-factly that they were going to pretend to be lesbian couples, to 
> > get the free champagne. 
> 
> HaHa, clever girl :-)
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Sexual Revolution: Polyamory May Be Good for You

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> Reminded me of yesterday when I called my daughter, who lives in San 
> Francisco, and asked her what she was doing for Valentine's Day, and she said 
> she was going out to dinner with three girlfriends, and then added 
> matter-of-factly that they were going to pretend to be lesbian couples, to 
> get the free champagne. 

HaHa, clever girl :-)

[FairfieldLife] The law

[doctordumbass]

Interesting experience recently - got called for jury duty, a murder trial - 
Was empaneled with 17 others (12 jurors, four alternates, and two let go, after 
the voir dire - tell the truth - phase). 

When questioned, I mentioned in court, before a sizable audience (~170 people), 
that I would completely discount the witness testimony of cell mates to the 
defendant, using the logic that these people are already criminals - Why would 
they tell the truth now?

Also, there is a point of law, that specifies a person can be convicted of the 
intent to murder, even if that intent was not present. I said I could not 
accept that, either.

Also referred to an incident thirty years ago, where I was intentionally 
commanded by a cop, hand on his holster, to drive myself, my wife, and a 
friend, the wrong way, down a one way street. So although I have met some 
excellent police officers, I am now initially skeptical of them.

When the prosecutor asked me if he could do anything for me to regain my 
impartiality, I said, "Well, you could find that cop...". Brought down the 
house.:-)

I was one of the two let go - (the other could not comprehend English well 
enough). 

Thoughts? Do you agree? Would you have spoken up? 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Shivabalayogi Maharaj

[doctordumbass]

Yep - Its much better to cultivate a saatvic chemistry before wandering into 
other worlds. Then the purity of consciousness acts like a flashlight and 
compass, in both knowing where we are, and being able to visit the darkest 
places, without getting disoriented.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Never mind Michael, it's okay.
> > > 
> > > I guess you saw that the post was to Sal, not navashok ?
> > 
> > Yes, I saw that post of yours. But when I saw the first post of Michael, it 
> > didn't hurt me. That's what I wanted to express. 
> > 
> > And I thought that you becoming the pope was a witty answer. But when you 
> > check out that master Jesus (different from the Maitreya) in Italy, you'll 
> > tell us, right?
> 
> 
> Why not... Anyway, as the good DrDumbass has said innumerable times here 
> anyone can talk to any Master, Saint or God anytime, they are closer to us 
> than we might think :-) Just make sure you're not talking to your own shadow 
> or some kind of ghost like most "channellers" like the MJ-fellow does.
> 
> 
>   
> > > Anyway it's rather interesting that this MJ character is posting deleted 
> > > posts here that was up for maximum 10 minutes. 
> > > I guess some people simply don't have a normal everday life.
> > >
> 
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: My favorate female airline announcement voice

[John]

It's a good thing the plane wasn't hijacked.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok  wrote:
>
> Flying with an Arab airline last time, I was taken aback by the almost 
> transcendental ethereal sounding announcement. I always perceived arab to be 
> somewhat hard sounding, this here is the opposite:
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UymcFJrquNw#t=100s
> (The announcement starts at 1m 45s)
> 
> And here the Japanese equivalent: 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrkdgpK4Hpw#t=70s (after 1m 10s)
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Sexual Revolution: Polyamory May Be Good for You

[doctordumbass]

Reminded me of yesterday when I called my daughter, who lives in San Francisco, 
and asked her what she was doing for Valentine's Day, and she said she was 
going out to dinner with three girlfriends, and then added matter-of-factly 
that they were going to pretend to be lesbian couples, to get the free 
champagne. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> >
> > Yes, Ann!  
> > He sounds depressed because he watches two women give to one man and they 
> > ain't inviting him in!  He waits for a rebound bonk, but will not be 
> > successful. Poor guy. heh
> 
> Oh Obba, are you flirting with me? Watch out 'cuz it just might get me going 
> and then couldn't we just give Barry an eyeful, that is if we'd let him 
> watch, which I highly doubt. Now get going you little sassy-pants, no more of 
> your lip for today - I'd like you to save them both for me tomorrow.
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > >
> > > Your comments are hilarious Ann!! Barry is not making much sense here, 
> > > granted. He seems to focus on the very worst prejudices in others, and 
> > > take that as the basis for argument. Sounds depressed. Hope you had a 
> > > great Valentines Day! 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Oh yeah, baby, free love if you let me. Lick that extra 
> > > > > > wet lick lick lick your face and all. Oh, don't forget 
> > > > > > that rubber! Hey, give me a full physical for everyone 
> > > > > > who swings and I will be a millionaire! 
> > > > > > Did you know that venereal disease is pretty common 
> > > > > > among the aging population? They like to wank the wong 
> > > > > > to barren wombs of the love canal! No pregnancy and 
> > > > > > viagra..whoopie! 
> > > > > > If it ain't good enough, time to wonder what her snatch 
> > > > > > feels like..and hers and his is bigger and turns to the 
> > > > > > left a bit more..
> > > > > > Good for you my ass. It means you are fucking bored with 
> > > > > > your partner. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I shall allow this idiocy to stand on its own as an
> > > > > example of why obba has never succeeded in her attempts 
> > > > > to flirt with guys on FFL. Who could even *imagine* 
> > > > > getting it on with someone that ignorant?
> > > > 
> > > > Whoa, why the extreme reaction here Barry? Did you know that there are 
> > > > ways to address a difference of opinion with reason, class, openness 
> > > > and diplomacy? Yes indeed, it's true.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Instead I'll focus in one of my last posts for the 
> > > > > week on the excellent article that Alex found and 
> > > > > posted. It's about bloody time that someone did some 
> > > > > real studies on polyamorous relationships, to help 
> > > > > overcome the idiotic ideas that monogomaphobes have 
> > > > > about them. 
> > > > 
> > > > We get the picture, anyone who is a monogomaphobe (which, of course is 
> > > > not even close to being a real word) is an "idiot". Oh, and you are 
> > > > about to enlighten all of us on why and how open minded and enlightened 
> > > > you are on the subject. Let's take a look:
> > > > > 
> > > > > Living as I do as a non-involved fly on the wall in a
> > > > > polyamorous household, I have a more realistic picture
> > > > > of what is involved in nonmonogamous relationships than
> > > > > most. If there is a single word that characterizes the 
> > > > > successful ones I've seen, that word is *honesty*. 
> > > > 
> > > > Oh, you are amazing. And what an original conclusion. "Honesty" who 
> > > > would have thought? And all this time I thought it was about how good 
> > > > looking the other partner was that kept a relationship intact.
> > > > > 
> > > > > It's not about the sex, or as the idiot above suggests,
> > > > > about being bored with one's partner. It's about having
> > > > > the freedom to have more than one partner if one is
> > > > > "drawn that way." Claiming that "there can be only one"
> > > > > is as stupid in romantic relationships as it is for the
> > > > > people who claim that "seeing other teachers" is suffic-
> > > > > ient grounds to excommunicate someone from a spiritual
> > > > > organization. And even in that parallel, as we all know
> > > > > from the history of the TMO, people are willing to
> > > > > *overlook* "straying" to other teachers AS LONG AS
> > > > > THOSE WHO DO IT *LIE* ABOUT IT. It's the *openness*
> > > > > and the *non-willingness* to lie about one's actions
> > > > > or apologize for them that the sexual prudes and the 
> > > > > spiritual fascists hate.
> > > > 
> > > > Let's see now, how sophisticated is Barry's rebuttal? How do his words 
> > > > here beckon us, entice us to read and take what he s

[FairfieldLife] JESUS WAS A CAPRICORN by Kris Kristofferson

[Goddess Ninmah]

JESUS WAS A CAPRICORN  by Kris Kristofferson
http://worldpeaceassociation.com/2013/02/15/jesus-was-a-capricorn-by-kris-kristofferson-web-radio-on-stupidity-of-prejudice/

Click arrow and hear Dr. Lessin on Web Radio rap about the importance of this 
song in exposing the stupidity of prejudice,. Then you get to hear 
Kristofferson sing and watch his youtube.

Here's part of a great poem/song by Kris Kristofferson.

Jesus was a Capricorn, he ate organic foods.
He believed in love and peace and never wore no shoes.
Long hair, beard and sandals and a funky bunch of friends.
Reckon they'd just nail him up if He come down again.

Egg Head's cussin' Red Neck's cussin' hippies for their hair.
Others laugh at straights who laugh at freaks who laugh at squares.
Some folks hate the whites who hate the blacks who hate the clan.
Most of us hate anything that we don't understand.

`Cos everybody's got to have somebody to look down on.
Who they can feel better than at anytime they please.
Someone doin' somethin' dirty, decent folks can frown on.
If you can't find nobody else, then help yourself to me.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Shivabalayogi Maharaj

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > Never mind Michael, it's okay.
> > 
> > I guess you saw that the post was to Sal, not navashok ?
> 
> Yes, I saw that post of yours. But when I saw the first post of Michael, it 
> didn't hurt me. That's what I wanted to express. 
> 
> And I thought that you becoming the pope was a witty answer. But when you 
> check out that master Jesus (different from the Maitreya) in Italy, you'll 
> tell us, right?


Why not... Anyway, as the good DrDumbass has said innumerable times here anyone 
can talk to any Master, Saint or God anytime, they are closer to us than we 
might think :-) Just make sure you're not talking to your own shadow or some 
kind of ghost like most "channellers" like the MJ-fellow does.


  
> > Anyway it's rather interesting that this MJ character is posting deleted 
> > posts here that was up for maximum 10 minutes. 
> > I guess some people simply don't have a normal everday life.
> >

>

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Sexual Revolution: Polyamory May Be Good for You

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
>
> Yes, Ann!  
> He sounds depressed because he watches two women give to one man and they 
> ain't inviting him in!  He waits for a rebound bonk, but will not be 
> successful. Poor guy. heh

Oh Obba, are you flirting with me? Watch out 'cuz it just might get me going 
and then couldn't we just give Barry an eyeful, that is if we'd let him watch, 
which I highly doubt. Now get going you little sassy-pants, no more of your lip 
for today - I'd like you to save them both for me tomorrow.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > Your comments are hilarious Ann!! Barry is not making much sense here, 
> > granted. He seems to focus on the very worst prejudices in others, and take 
> > that as the basis for argument. Sounds depressed. Hope you had a great 
> > Valentines Day! 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh yeah, baby, free love if you let me. Lick that extra 
> > > > > wet lick lick lick your face and all. Oh, don't forget 
> > > > > that rubber! Hey, give me a full physical for everyone 
> > > > > who swings and I will be a millionaire! 
> > > > > Did you know that venereal disease is pretty common 
> > > > > among the aging population? They like to wank the wong 
> > > > > to barren wombs of the love canal! No pregnancy and 
> > > > > viagra..whoopie! 
> > > > > If it ain't good enough, time to wonder what her snatch 
> > > > > feels like..and hers and his is bigger and turns to the 
> > > > > left a bit more..
> > > > > Good for you my ass. It means you are fucking bored with 
> > > > > your partner. 
> > > > 
> > > > I shall allow this idiocy to stand on its own as an
> > > > example of why obba has never succeeded in her attempts 
> > > > to flirt with guys on FFL. Who could even *imagine* 
> > > > getting it on with someone that ignorant?
> > > 
> > > Whoa, why the extreme reaction here Barry? Did you know that there are 
> > > ways to address a difference of opinion with reason, class, openness and 
> > > diplomacy? Yes indeed, it's true.
> > > > 
> > > > Instead I'll focus in one of my last posts for the 
> > > > week on the excellent article that Alex found and 
> > > > posted. It's about bloody time that someone did some 
> > > > real studies on polyamorous relationships, to help 
> > > > overcome the idiotic ideas that monogomaphobes have 
> > > > about them. 
> > > 
> > > We get the picture, anyone who is a monogomaphobe (which, of course is 
> > > not even close to being a real word) is an "idiot". Oh, and you are about 
> > > to enlighten all of us on why and how open minded and enlightened you are 
> > > on the subject. Let's take a look:
> > > > 
> > > > Living as I do as a non-involved fly on the wall in a
> > > > polyamorous household, I have a more realistic picture
> > > > of what is involved in nonmonogamous relationships than
> > > > most. If there is a single word that characterizes the 
> > > > successful ones I've seen, that word is *honesty*. 
> > > 
> > > Oh, you are amazing. And what an original conclusion. "Honesty" who 
> > > would have thought? And all this time I thought it was about how good 
> > > looking the other partner was that kept a relationship intact.
> > > > 
> > > > It's not about the sex, or as the idiot above suggests,
> > > > about being bored with one's partner. It's about having
> > > > the freedom to have more than one partner if one is
> > > > "drawn that way." Claiming that "there can be only one"
> > > > is as stupid in romantic relationships as it is for the
> > > > people who claim that "seeing other teachers" is suffic-
> > > > ient grounds to excommunicate someone from a spiritual
> > > > organization. And even in that parallel, as we all know
> > > > from the history of the TMO, people are willing to
> > > > *overlook* "straying" to other teachers AS LONG AS
> > > > THOSE WHO DO IT *LIE* ABOUT IT. It's the *openness*
> > > > and the *non-willingness* to lie about one's actions
> > > > or apologize for them that the sexual prudes and the 
> > > > spiritual fascists hate.
> > > 
> > > Let's see now, how sophisticated is Barry's rebuttal? How do his words 
> > > here beckon us, entice us to read and take what he says seriously due to 
> > > their reasonable nature and sense of empathy for the reader? He uses in 
> > > the short paragraph above the following words and statements as the 
> > > ultimate allure for us readers: "idiot", "stupid", "sexual prudes", 
> > > "spiritual fascists". Gee, don't know about the rest of you but I'm 
> > > transfixed by this human who could write this way. In fact, I am 
> > > downright infatuated with love/lust. Barry, you're the man.
> > > > 
> > > > I've seen the non-lying, open approach to relationships
> > > > WORK, and 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Uber-narcissists who would fit right in on FFL

[doctordumbass]

The Graduate was good - my nomination. Notting Hill was good too, especially 
the scene with Spike in the wet suit.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long 
> wrote:Yes, we all seem to like the body parts that project out (-:
> Switching gears a little, Steve, what about turq's topic, your favorite
> romantic movie of all time?
> Wow, checking in for a second, and this may take some thought.  Got to
> go through, high school years, college years, ...adult
> years.let's see, Princess Bride comes up,.okay, I
> cheated and looked at a list, but really nothing else jumped out at me. 
> I like "West Side Story", I like "Up", I like "Paper Moon", (although
> not really a romance movie, but sweet nonetheless),  I like "It's a
> Wonderful Life".
> I'll go with "Princess Bride".
> And you?
> 
> > > > > > > 
> From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@> To:
> FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013
> 10:41 PM> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Uber-narcissists who would
> fit right in on FFL>  > > Â  > I've got to add aÂ
> funny little piece to the story, especially on this Valentine's Day.Â
> That is the power of the breast.  In those early days and months as
> an infant, there was no trauma that could stand up to the power of
> the breast.  I remember hearing from other friends about the
> circumcision.  "Oh" they would say, "Our little guy was doing great
> until the cirumcision, then he never slept well again"Â  I was
> expecting the worst.  But as had happened many before that event,
> and hundreds of time after, putting the baby up to the breast seemed
> to solve any problem. He seemed to get over the "trauma" of the
> circumcism, in about one minute.> And then once we realized that the
> baby could not tolerate (cow's milk) dairy that he was getting via
> breast milk, then we were really home free.> > --- In
> FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" wrote:> >> > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:> >
> >> > > Hi Steve, hope you and your wife are having a sweet
> Valentine's> > Day.Â> > > Sorry to be nosy but did you all
> know from the start how many children> > you wanted?> > > Are
> they choosing for themselves which religion to follow?> > > >
> > > Wow Share. You know just what questions to ask, to release a
> torrent> > of info from me.> > > > Fortunately it has been a
> very low key Valentine's day. A friend is in> > town, and it has
> caused me go to sleep late two nights in a row, and> > arrive home
> late from work. I had intended to stop at Aldi's on my way> > home
> tonight, and pick up some roses, but was not able to do so. So> >
> Valentine's day has been mostly my daughter giving a present to my
> wife.> > > > I have mentioned here before that I was 35 when I
> got married, and my> > wife was 38. First time for both of us. We
> had our first child, a boy> > when she was forty, and the third
> child, a girl when she was 44. > > Inbetween was a boy.> > >
> > I hope I am not boring anyone yet. When she was pregnant with the
> first> > child, we attended all the Lamaze (sp?) classes, and so in
> the delivery> > room I was there as her "coach" to help with the
> breathing etc. To> > back up a bit, the due date came and went, and
> after one week, we> > learned of an acupunture pressure point,
> between the big toe and the> > next toe (I believe). That worked
> after a couple hours, and she went> > into labor.> > > > At
> any rate, I performed my role as coach, and soon a little boy
> popped> > out, and he scored an 8 out of 8 (think I have that right)
> on the> > Apscar test. And he performed well on most every test he's
> taken after> > that, at least until high school when he started to
> take his studying> > for granted. But I digress yet again.> >
> > > Anyway, by the time the second child was born, I was happy that
> I was> > allowed to be not quite as involved in the actual birth.
> That little> > guy popped out and was all red. Literally his body
> was very red. I was> > told that there was a strong Mars influence
> at the time of his birth.> > That was January 24 th, 1996. I don't
> remember what time.> > > > By the time the girl was born, I
> would not have minded being several> > hundred miles away, and to
> learn of her birth by a postcard. I had sort> > of had enough of the
> birthing room. Especially since there were some> > complications.
> Luckily, it all worked out. But it was a rather a> > wrenching
> experience. Thank God we were in the hospital and not at> > home, or
> giving birth in the bathtub under water, or some place with> >
> dolphins nearby. Really, I don't mean to demean those methods, but
> they> > wouldn't have worked for us.> > > > By the time of
> the third one, there was not time for even an epideral.> > She had
> that for the first two I believe.> > > > Then came the breast
> feedi

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Sexual Revolution: Polyamory May Be Good for You

[doctordumbass]

especially hilarious because you are pretty light-hearted on here, 'til now, 
and Barry, like he always does, thought he had found an easy mark, a dumping 
ground for his general dis-ease. The thing is, about Barry going around 
offending people (and calling it tantric opinion - wtf?), is eventually someone 
will smack him good, like you just did. His ears are probably still ringing! 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> he's probably lamenting pissing you off - LOL
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> >
> > Yes, Ann!  
> > He sounds depressed because he watches two women give to one man and they 
> > ain't inviting him in!  He waits for a rebound bonk, but will not be 
> > successful. Poor guy. heh
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > >
> > > Your comments are hilarious Ann!! Barry is not making much sense here, 
> > > granted. He seems to focus on the very worst prejudices in others, and 
> > > take that as the basis for argument. Sounds depressed. Hope you had a 
> > > great Valentines Day! 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Oh yeah, baby, free love if you let me. Lick that extra 
> > > > > > wet lick lick lick your face and all. Oh, don't forget 
> > > > > > that rubber! Hey, give me a full physical for everyone 
> > > > > > who swings and I will be a millionaire! 
> > > > > > Did you know that venereal disease is pretty common 
> > > > > > among the aging population? They like to wank the wong 
> > > > > > to barren wombs of the love canal! No pregnancy and 
> > > > > > viagra..whoopie! 
> > > > > > If it ain't good enough, time to wonder what her snatch 
> > > > > > feels like..and hers and his is bigger and turns to the 
> > > > > > left a bit more..
> > > > > > Good for you my ass. It means you are fucking bored with 
> > > > > > your partner. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I shall allow this idiocy to stand on its own as an
> > > > > example of why obba has never succeeded in her attempts 
> > > > > to flirt with guys on FFL. Who could even *imagine* 
> > > > > getting it on with someone that ignorant?
> > > > 
> > > > Whoa, why the extreme reaction here Barry? Did you know that there are 
> > > > ways to address a difference of opinion with reason, class, openness 
> > > > and diplomacy? Yes indeed, it's true.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Instead I'll focus in one of my last posts for the 
> > > > > week on the excellent article that Alex found and 
> > > > > posted. It's about bloody time that someone did some 
> > > > > real studies on polyamorous relationships, to help 
> > > > > overcome the idiotic ideas that monogomaphobes have 
> > > > > about them. 
> > > > 
> > > > We get the picture, anyone who is a monogomaphobe (which, of course is 
> > > > not even close to being a real word) is an "idiot". Oh, and you are 
> > > > about to enlighten all of us on why and how open minded and enlightened 
> > > > you are on the subject. Let's take a look:
> > > > > 
> > > > > Living as I do as a non-involved fly on the wall in a
> > > > > polyamorous household, I have a more realistic picture
> > > > > of what is involved in nonmonogamous relationships than
> > > > > most. If there is a single word that characterizes the 
> > > > > successful ones I've seen, that word is *honesty*. 
> > > > 
> > > > Oh, you are amazing. And what an original conclusion. "Honesty" who 
> > > > would have thought? And all this time I thought it was about how good 
> > > > looking the other partner was that kept a relationship intact.
> > > > > 
> > > > > It's not about the sex, or as the idiot above suggests,
> > > > > about being bored with one's partner. It's about having
> > > > > the freedom to have more than one partner if one is
> > > > > "drawn that way." Claiming that "there can be only one"
> > > > > is as stupid in romantic relationships as it is for the
> > > > > people who claim that "seeing other teachers" is suffic-
> > > > > ient grounds to excommunicate someone from a spiritual
> > > > > organization. And even in that parallel, as we all know
> > > > > from the history of the TMO, people are willing to
> > > > > *overlook* "straying" to other teachers AS LONG AS
> > > > > THOSE WHO DO IT *LIE* ABOUT IT. It's the *openness*
> > > > > and the *non-willingness* to lie about one's actions
> > > > > or apologize for them that the sexual prudes and the 
> > > > > spiritual fascists hate.
> > > > 
> > > > Let's see now, how sophisticated is Barry's rebuttal? How do his words 
> > > > here beckon us, entice us to read and take what he says seriously due 
> > > > to their reasonable nature and sense of empathy for the reader? He uses 
> > > > in the short paragraph above the following words and statements as the 
> >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Uber-narcissists who would fit right in on FFL

[seventhray27]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long 
wrote:Yes, we all seem to like the body parts that project out (-:
Switching gears a little, Steve, what about turq's topic, your favorite
romantic movie of all time?
Wow, checking in for a second, and this may take some thought.  Got to
go through, high school years, college years, ...adult
years.let's see, Princess Bride comes up,.okay, I
cheated and looked at a list, but really nothing else jumped out at me. 
I like "West Side Story", I like "Up", I like "Paper Moon", (although
not really a romance movie, but sweet nonetheless),  I like "It's a
Wonderful Life".
I'll go with "Princess Bride".
And you?

> > > > > > 
From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@...> To:
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013
10:41 PM> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Uber-narcissists who would
fit right in on FFL>  > > Â  > I've got to add aÂ
funny little piece to the story, especially on this Valentine's Day.Â
That is the power of the breast.  In those early days and months as
an infant, there was no trauma that could stand up to the power of
the breast.  I remember hearing from other friends about the
circumcision.  "Oh" they would say, "Our little guy was doing great
until the cirumcision, then he never slept well again"Â  I was
expecting the worst.  But as had happened many before that event,
and hundreds of time after, putting the baby up to the breast seemed
to solve any problem. He seemed to get over the "trauma" of the
circumcism, in about one minute.> And then once we realized that the
baby could not tolerate (cow's milk) dairy that he was getting via
breast milk, then we were really home free.> > --- In
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" wrote:> >> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:> >
>> > > Hi Steve, hope you and your wife are having a sweet
Valentine's> > Day.Â> > > Sorry to be nosy but did you all
know from the start how many children> > you wanted?> > > Are
they choosing for themselves which religion to follow?> > > >
> > Wow Share. You know just what questions to ask, to release a
torrent> > of info from me.> > > > Fortunately it has been a
very low key Valentine's day. A friend is in> > town, and it has
caused me go to sleep late two nights in a row, and> > arrive home
late from work. I had intended to stop at Aldi's on my way> > home
tonight, and pick up some roses, but was not able to do so. So> >
Valentine's day has been mostly my daughter giving a present to my
wife.> > > > I have mentioned here before that I was 35 when I
got married, and my> > wife was 38. First time for both of us. We
had our first child, a boy> > when she was forty, and the third
child, a girl when she was 44. > > Inbetween was a boy.> > >
> I hope I am not boring anyone yet. When she was pregnant with the
first> > child, we attended all the Lamaze (sp?) classes, and so in
the delivery> > room I was there as her "coach" to help with the
breathing etc. To> > back up a bit, the due date came and went, and
after one week, we> > learned of an acupunture pressure point,
between the big toe and the> > next toe (I believe). That worked
after a couple hours, and she went> > into labor.> > > > At
any rate, I performed my role as coach, and soon a little boy
popped> > out, and he scored an 8 out of 8 (think I have that right)
on the> > Apscar test. And he performed well on most every test he's
taken after> > that, at least until high school when he started to
take his studying> > for granted. But I digress yet again.> >
> > Anyway, by the time the second child was born, I was happy that
I was> > allowed to be not quite as involved in the actual birth.
That little> > guy popped out and was all red. Literally his body
was very red. I was> > told that there was a strong Mars influence
at the time of his birth.> > That was January 24 th, 1996. I don't
remember what time.> > > > By the time the girl was born, I
would not have minded being several> > hundred miles away, and to
learn of her birth by a postcard. I had sort> > of had enough of the
birthing room. Especially since there were some> > complications.
Luckily, it all worked out. But it was a rather a> > wrenching
experience. Thank God we were in the hospital and not at> > home, or
giving birth in the bathtub under water, or some place with> >
dolphins nearby. Really, I don't mean to demean those methods, but
they> > wouldn't have worked for us.> > > > By the time of
the third one, there was not time for even an epideral.> > She had
that for the first two I believe.> > > > Then came the breast
feeding, and they all got that, for I think, 18> > months. I could
go on and on with this story. Like the estrangement> > that took
place between my mom and me and my mom and my wife nearly as> > soon
as the first child was born.> > > > My mom had the expectation
that we would want to offload the child to> > her, just as she had
offlo

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Sexual Revolution: Polyamory May Be Good for You

[doctordumbass]

he's probably lamenting pissing you off - LOL

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
>
> Yes, Ann!  
> He sounds depressed because he watches two women give to one man and they 
> ain't inviting him in!  He waits for a rebound bonk, but will not be 
> successful. Poor guy. heh
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > Your comments are hilarious Ann!! Barry is not making much sense here, 
> > granted. He seems to focus on the very worst prejudices in others, and take 
> > that as the basis for argument. Sounds depressed. Hope you had a great 
> > Valentines Day! 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh yeah, baby, free love if you let me. Lick that extra 
> > > > > wet lick lick lick your face and all. Oh, don't forget 
> > > > > that rubber! Hey, give me a full physical for everyone 
> > > > > who swings and I will be a millionaire! 
> > > > > Did you know that venereal disease is pretty common 
> > > > > among the aging population? They like to wank the wong 
> > > > > to barren wombs of the love canal! No pregnancy and 
> > > > > viagra..whoopie! 
> > > > > If it ain't good enough, time to wonder what her snatch 
> > > > > feels like..and hers and his is bigger and turns to the 
> > > > > left a bit more..
> > > > > Good for you my ass. It means you are fucking bored with 
> > > > > your partner. 
> > > > 
> > > > I shall allow this idiocy to stand on its own as an
> > > > example of why obba has never succeeded in her attempts 
> > > > to flirt with guys on FFL. Who could even *imagine* 
> > > > getting it on with someone that ignorant?
> > > 
> > > Whoa, why the extreme reaction here Barry? Did you know that there are 
> > > ways to address a difference of opinion with reason, class, openness and 
> > > diplomacy? Yes indeed, it's true.
> > > > 
> > > > Instead I'll focus in one of my last posts for the 
> > > > week on the excellent article that Alex found and 
> > > > posted. It's about bloody time that someone did some 
> > > > real studies on polyamorous relationships, to help 
> > > > overcome the idiotic ideas that monogomaphobes have 
> > > > about them. 
> > > 
> > > We get the picture, anyone who is a monogomaphobe (which, of course is 
> > > not even close to being a real word) is an "idiot". Oh, and you are about 
> > > to enlighten all of us on why and how open minded and enlightened you are 
> > > on the subject. Let's take a look:
> > > > 
> > > > Living as I do as a non-involved fly on the wall in a
> > > > polyamorous household, I have a more realistic picture
> > > > of what is involved in nonmonogamous relationships than
> > > > most. If there is a single word that characterizes the 
> > > > successful ones I've seen, that word is *honesty*. 
> > > 
> > > Oh, you are amazing. And what an original conclusion. "Honesty" who 
> > > would have thought? And all this time I thought it was about how good 
> > > looking the other partner was that kept a relationship intact.
> > > > 
> > > > It's not about the sex, or as the idiot above suggests,
> > > > about being bored with one's partner. It's about having
> > > > the freedom to have more than one partner if one is
> > > > "drawn that way." Claiming that "there can be only one"
> > > > is as stupid in romantic relationships as it is for the
> > > > people who claim that "seeing other teachers" is suffic-
> > > > ient grounds to excommunicate someone from a spiritual
> > > > organization. And even in that parallel, as we all know
> > > > from the history of the TMO, people are willing to
> > > > *overlook* "straying" to other teachers AS LONG AS
> > > > THOSE WHO DO IT *LIE* ABOUT IT. It's the *openness*
> > > > and the *non-willingness* to lie about one's actions
> > > > or apologize for them that the sexual prudes and the 
> > > > spiritual fascists hate.
> > > 
> > > Let's see now, how sophisticated is Barry's rebuttal? How do his words 
> > > here beckon us, entice us to read and take what he says seriously due to 
> > > their reasonable nature and sense of empathy for the reader? He uses in 
> > > the short paragraph above the following words and statements as the 
> > > ultimate allure for us readers: "idiot", "stupid", "sexual prudes", 
> > > "spiritual fascists". Gee, don't know about the rest of you but I'm 
> > > transfixed by this human who could write this way. In fact, I am 
> > > downright infatuated with love/lust. Barry, you're the man.
> > > > 
> > > > I've seen the non-lying, open approach to relationships
> > > > WORK, and work well in nonmonogamous relationships. 
> > > > Alas, I cannot say that for most of the monogamous 
> > > > relationships I've been exposed to. While publicly 
> > > > clinging to the notion of monogamy, all one has to do
> > > > is look at divorce sta

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Sexual Revolution: Polyamory May Be Good for You

[doctordumbass]

:-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
>
> Thank you too, Dr. Du M. Bass.
> It takes a village to raise the Turq. His mother didn't do it.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > obbajeeba, I enjoy your strength and dignity - It Rocks! Thank you.
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh yeah, baby, free love if you let me. Lick that extra 
> > > > > wet lick lick lick your face and all. Oh, don't forget 
> > > > > that rubber! Hey, give me a full physical for everyone 
> > > > > who swings and I will be a millionaire! 
> > > > > Did you know that venereal disease is pretty common 
> > > > > among the aging population? They like to wank the wong 
> > > > > to barren wombs of the love canal! No pregnancy and 
> > > > > viagra..whoopie! 
> > > > > If it ain't good enough, time to wonder what her snatch 
> > > > > feels like..and hers and his is bigger and turns to the 
> > > > > left a bit more..
> > > > > Good for you my ass. It means you are fucking bored with 
> > > > > your partner. 
> > > > 
> > > > I shall allow this idiocy to stand on its own as an
> > > > example of why obba has never succeeded in her attempts 
> > > > to flirt with guys on FFL. Who could even *imagine* 
> > > > getting it on with someone that ignorant?
> > > > 
> > > Precisely why you took the time to snip and cut what this post was in 
> > > response too, and why you have much free time to troll on FFL. Your 
> > > crusty undies are showing, from the shadow in the corner of the room, 
> > > only lit by your laptop LED screen, and your perverted mind makes clear 
> > > your real interest here, is to stroke your member and sip your drink to 
> > > an imaginary friend, you call intellectual soft porn, waiting for the 
> > > next gala to parade with your favorite movie stars. Ahh, as the mangy 
> > > castrated bull stands in the field watching the real males hump their way 
> > > to offspring, something your squirt can only wish for in the puddle of 
> > > yellow spill below your belly. Tinkling delight of your urine sooth, Turq 
> > > thinks, "Who's wife can I best beat off too, from this plastic keyboard 
> > > orgasm happening in front of me and I assume my penis is erect for you oh 
> > > cherished one."
> > > Flirting?  Flirting is your "imagination," for if this was the case, the 
> > > visual verbiage would lay in private message as you so humbly write and 
> > > respond to.
> > > No, wait, the Turq knows when one is flirting and how can it be the most 
> > > ignorant would come like the Ganges River and what single man with a 
> > > working firm, wood, avoid what nature? Cleanse yourself, bathe in the 
> > > waters of real women.
> > > Turq, back to your movie fantasy of women above cunt status, which is why 
> > > you have never had a lasting relationship with any woman in your whole 
> > > life, including your Mother who was glad to see you move away, that spurt 
> > > your father left behind, her nightmare result, she knew she had to raise 
> > > you to never reproduce. Window shopping in Amsterdam, need I say anymore?
> > > 
> > >   
> > > > Instead I'll focus in one of my last posts for the 
> > > > week on the excellent article that Alex found and 
> > > > posted. It's about bloody time that someone did some 
> > > > real studies on polyamorous relationships, to help 
> > > > overcome the idiotic ideas that monogomaphobes have 
> > > > about them. 
> > > > 
> > > > Living as I do as a non-involved fly on the wall in a
> > > > polyamorous household, I have a more realistic picture
> > > > of what is involved in nonmonogamous relationships than
> > > > most. If there is a single word that characterizes the 
> > > > successful ones I've seen, that word is *honesty*. 
> > > > 
> > > > It's not about the sex, or as the idiot above suggests,
> > > > about being bored with one's partner. It's about having
> > > > the freedom to have more than one partner if one is
> > > > "drawn that way." Claiming that "there can be only one"
> > > > is as stupid in romantic relationships as it is for the
> > > > people who claim that "seeing other teachers" is suffic-
> > > > ient grounds to excommunicate someone from a spiritual
> > > > organization. And even in that parallel, as we all know
> > > > from the history of the TMO, people are willing to
> > > > *overlook* "straying" to other teachers AS LONG AS
> > > > THOSE WHO DO IT *LIE* ABOUT IT. It's the *openness*
> > > > and the *non-willingness* to lie about one's actions
> > > > or apologize for them that the sexual prudes and the 
> > > > spiritual fascists hate.
> > > > 
> > > > I've seen the non-lying, open approach to relationships
> > > > WORK, and work well in nonmonogamous relationships. 
> > > > Alas, I cannot say that for most

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Sexual Revolution: Polyamory May Be Good for You

[obbajeeba]

Yes, Ann!  
He sounds depressed because he watches two women give to one man and they ain't 
inviting him in!  He waits for a rebound bonk, but will not be successful. Poor 
guy. heh

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> Your comments are hilarious Ann!! Barry is not making much sense here, 
> granted. He seems to focus on the very worst prejudices in others, and take 
> that as the basis for argument. Sounds depressed. Hope you had a great 
> Valentines Day! 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Oh yeah, baby, free love if you let me. Lick that extra 
> > > > wet lick lick lick your face and all. Oh, don't forget 
> > > > that rubber! Hey, give me a full physical for everyone 
> > > > who swings and I will be a millionaire! 
> > > > Did you know that venereal disease is pretty common 
> > > > among the aging population? They like to wank the wong 
> > > > to barren wombs of the love canal! No pregnancy and 
> > > > viagra..whoopie! 
> > > > If it ain't good enough, time to wonder what her snatch 
> > > > feels like..and hers and his is bigger and turns to the 
> > > > left a bit more..
> > > > Good for you my ass. It means you are fucking bored with 
> > > > your partner. 
> > > 
> > > I shall allow this idiocy to stand on its own as an
> > > example of why obba has never succeeded in her attempts 
> > > to flirt with guys on FFL. Who could even *imagine* 
> > > getting it on with someone that ignorant?
> > 
> > Whoa, why the extreme reaction here Barry? Did you know that there are ways 
> > to address a difference of opinion with reason, class, openness and 
> > diplomacy? Yes indeed, it's true.
> > > 
> > > Instead I'll focus in one of my last posts for the 
> > > week on the excellent article that Alex found and 
> > > posted. It's about bloody time that someone did some 
> > > real studies on polyamorous relationships, to help 
> > > overcome the idiotic ideas that monogomaphobes have 
> > > about them. 
> > 
> > We get the picture, anyone who is a monogomaphobe (which, of course is not 
> > even close to being a real word) is an "idiot". Oh, and you are about to 
> > enlighten all of us on why and how open minded and enlightened you are on 
> > the subject. Let's take a look:
> > > 
> > > Living as I do as a non-involved fly on the wall in a
> > > polyamorous household, I have a more realistic picture
> > > of what is involved in nonmonogamous relationships than
> > > most. If there is a single word that characterizes the 
> > > successful ones I've seen, that word is *honesty*. 
> > 
> > Oh, you are amazing. And what an original conclusion. "Honesty" who 
> > would have thought? And all this time I thought it was about how good 
> > looking the other partner was that kept a relationship intact.
> > > 
> > > It's not about the sex, or as the idiot above suggests,
> > > about being bored with one's partner. It's about having
> > > the freedom to have more than one partner if one is
> > > "drawn that way." Claiming that "there can be only one"
> > > is as stupid in romantic relationships as it is for the
> > > people who claim that "seeing other teachers" is suffic-
> > > ient grounds to excommunicate someone from a spiritual
> > > organization. And even in that parallel, as we all know
> > > from the history of the TMO, people are willing to
> > > *overlook* "straying" to other teachers AS LONG AS
> > > THOSE WHO DO IT *LIE* ABOUT IT. It's the *openness*
> > > and the *non-willingness* to lie about one's actions
> > > or apologize for them that the sexual prudes and the 
> > > spiritual fascists hate.
> > 
> > Let's see now, how sophisticated is Barry's rebuttal? How do his words here 
> > beckon us, entice us to read and take what he says seriously due to their 
> > reasonable nature and sense of empathy for the reader? He uses in the short 
> > paragraph above the following words and statements as the ultimate allure 
> > for us readers: "idiot", "stupid", "sexual prudes", "spiritual fascists". 
> > Gee, don't know about the rest of you but I'm transfixed by this human who 
> > could write this way. In fact, I am downright infatuated with love/lust. 
> > Barry, you're the man.
> > > 
> > > I've seen the non-lying, open approach to relationships
> > > WORK, and work well in nonmonogamous relationships. 
> > > Alas, I cannot say that for most of the monogamous 
> > > relationships I've been exposed to. While publicly 
> > > clinging to the notion of monogamy, all one has to do
> > > is look at divorce statistics to see that over 50% of
> > > them are more often than not a rats' nest of lies, as 
> > > one or both partners step out on the other, lying about 
> > > it the whole time. *And*, as pointed out in the article, 
> > > taking insane chances of contracting STDs while doing 
> > > so, b

[FairfieldLife] Re: Backpacking --- Emily

[obbajeeba]

Oh Emily!
So nice to hear of the expedition and your braking away!  Keep being bad, you 
good girl!  OXO- Obba

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
>
> Hey Ravi.  Thanks for the thought.  Here is an update for you.  I left FFL 
> and jumped quickly into my waiting space ship, concealed in a pink, cotton 
> candy cloud of the finest spun sugar, headed to a final, undisclosed, 
> vacation location on a warm sandy beach, where I was intending to meditate 
> peacefully on my next employment opportunity.  Unfortunately, it turns out 
> that I had not atoned for as many sins here as I had hoped and in fact, I may 
> have banked a few more.  I'm currently on trial for being a new-age version 
> of a Rakshasa and expect to be sentenced to purgatory and many hours of 
> service to others to atone for my sins.  So...long story short, it'll be a 
> little while.  Now, I *am* an escape artist of the highest order (and kind 
> of proud of that fact), but this time, thanks to having outed myself here on 
> FFL, my jailers have asked not just the one GOD, but many Gods, to watch over 
> me and make sure I tow the line.  My ego is surrendering -
>  too many gods, too little time.  
> 
> I am allowed an hour a day to amuse myself as I please.  I have enjoyed 
> yours and Obba's contributions of late.  Obba, my love, stick around. Loved 
> the Onion piece, Judy!  Ann, I didn't get a chance to say goodbye as you 
> were undoubtedly making your way through one fabulous museum or maybe gazing 
> serenely up at Big Ben, if the London thing worked out, but thank you always 
> for being your wonderful self.  The bell tolls, they are calling me back.
> 
> Love, Emily   
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> >
> > From: Ravi Chivukula 
> >To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
> >Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 5:46 PM
> >Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Backpacking --- Emily
> > 
> >
> >  
> >Welcome back Emily & Carol !!!
> >
> >
> >
> >On Feb 14, 2013, at 4:51 PM, Emily Reyn  wrote:
> >
> >
> >  
> >>Hi Carol:  
> >>
> >>
> >>I grew up in the Northwest and backpacked most of my childhood - 15 years 
> >>old.  These were family trips with cousins ranging from mostly "long 
> >>weekend" jaunts to a 2-week long trip in the high sierras at about 15.  
> >>Then I took a long hiatus and left home for college and a wild ride through 
> >>my 20's.  Picked it up again with my kids and friends and did 3-5 day 
> >>trips in the Cascade mountains.  Have been on many of the hikes in the 
> >>"100 hikes" book.  I upgraded finally and bought all new lighter-weight 
> >>gear, as "toughing it out" old-school became too much for me in my 
> >>mid-40's.  I don't like to feel like a mule any longer. Smile. 
> >>
> >>
> >>Last summer I did 2 long camping trips (14 days and 10 days) on the WA 
> >>coast and Utah, respectively, with long day hikes, but no backpacking.  I 
> >>love being out there though - I had to step back a few years ago as I had 
> >>back and knee injuries from skiing to recover from.  I hope to go again 
> >>this summer.
> >>
> >>
> >>I've never hiked on the AT, but read the book "A Walk in the Woods" by Bill 
> >>Bryson, which was humorous.  
> >>
> >>
> >>Seventy-one miles is a great accomplishment; must have been a fabulous 
> >>trip.  Emily.  
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> From: Carol 
> >>>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> >>>Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 2:18 PM
> >>>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Backpacking --- Emily
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>>  
> >>>Hey Emily...
> >>>
> >>>Thought I'd bump this in case you missed it before. 
> >>>
> >>>Cheers!
> >>>~Carol :)
> >>>
> >>>***
> >>>
> >>>Emily, you mentioned in another post that you backpack.
> >>>
> >>>Have you done much backpacking and where are some of the places you have 
> >>>backpacked?
> >>>
> >>>[...]
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Carol"  wrote:
> 
>  Emily, you mentioned in another post that you backpack. 
>  
>  Have you done much backpacking and where are some of the places you have 
>  back packed?
>  
>  I just started backpacking in 2009. I've always loved the woods and have 
>  been a day hiker all my life, but my health (in the past) kept from 
>  being able to back pack. Finally (at age 49) I was well enough to give 
>  it a go. 
>  
>  I've only done a little bit and my longest trip was only 71 miles. I've 
>  done other short trips for a night or two.
>  
>  I live on the east coast in North Carolina, so the Appalachian Trail is 
>  in my back yard and I feel at home there. I have backpacked a small 
>  portion of the AT in New York.
>  
>  My high school dream was to thru-hike the AT some day. I got chronically 
>  sick at age 22 and was stuck in that chronic ill health for a few 
>  decades.
>  
>  But now my high schoo

[FairfieldLife] Re: More on polyamory

[obbajeeba]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agLGiMBqbPE

 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> turquoiseb:
> > Since I'm having fun rapping about this subject, and 
> > because I suspect it'll push a few buttons here ( and
> > you know how I love that :-),
> >
> So, it's all about sex, Uncle Tantra. LoL!
> 
> > I'll continue to use up
> > my posts for this week early before heading into 
> > Amsterdam for the day. 
> > 
> > In retrospect my made-up word "monogamaphobes" was
> > ill-considered, and probably should have been something
> > like "polyamoraphobes." I *have* met a few monogamaphobes
> > among my extended family's polyamorous friends -- those
> > who look down on monogamy as much as monogamists look
> > down on polyamory -- but I have very little tolerance
> > for them, as do my housemates. We're more of the 
> > "different strokes for different folks" and "live and 
> > let live" persuasion. 
> > 
> > Why this whole polyamory thing appeals to me is the some-
> > what remarkable degrees of *honesty* I've found in some
> > people who practice it. That and the lack of one of the
> > afflictive emotions, jealousy. They tend to believe that
> > requiring a romantic partner to "love only them" makes
> > as little sense as feeling that one cannot love one's
> > parents or friends if one has a wife or husband. (Or,
> > obviously, that one cannot love one's primary spiritual
> > teacher if one visits others.) That's just "love as 
> > property" thinking. Icky. Low vibe. 
> > 
> > Most of the sad history of planet Earth has been the
> > result of people raised by nuclear monogamous families.
> > That doesn't seem to me to be a great commercial for
> > the concept. :-)
> >
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Backpacking --- Emily

[Emily Reyn]

Hey Ravi.  Thanks for the thought.  Here is an update for you.  I left FFL and 
jumped quickly into my waiting space ship, concealed in a pink, cotton candy 
cloud of the finest spun sugar, headed to a final, undisclosed, vacation 
location on a warm sandy beach, where I was intending to meditate peacefully on 
my next employment opportunity.  Unfortunately, it turns out that I had not 
atoned for as many sins here as I had hoped and in fact, I may have banked a 
few more.  I'm currently on trial for being a new-age version of a Rakshasa and 
expect to be sentenced to purgatory and many hours of service to others to 
atone for my sins.  So...long story short, it'll be a little while.  Now, I 
*am* an escape artist of the highest order (and kind of proud of that fact), 
but this time, thanks to having outed myself here on FFL, my jailers have asked 
not just the one GOD, but many Gods, to watch over me and make sure I tow the 
line.  My ego is surrendering -
 too many gods, too little time.  

I am allowed an hour a day to amuse myself as I please.  I have enjoyed yours 
and Obba's contributions of late.  Obba, my love, stick around. Loved the Onion 
piece, Judy!  Ann, I didn't get a chance to say goodbye as you were undoubtedly 
making your way through one fabulous museum or maybe gazing serenely up at Big 
Ben, if the London thing worked out, but thank you always for being your 
wonderful self.  The bell tolls, they are calling me back.

Love, Emily   

 



>
> From: Ravi Chivukula 
>To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
>Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 5:46 PM
>Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Backpacking --- Emily
> 
>
>  
>Welcome back Emily & Carol !!!
>
>
>
>On Feb 14, 2013, at 4:51 PM, Emily Reyn  wrote:
>
>
>  
>>Hi Carol:  
>>
>>
>>I grew up in the Northwest and backpacked most of my childhood - 15 years 
>>old.  These were family trips with cousins ranging from mostly "long weekend" 
>>jaunts to a 2-week long trip in the high sierras at about 15.  Then I took a 
>>long hiatus and left home for college and a wild ride through my 20's.  
>>Picked it up again with my kids and friends and did 3-5 day trips in the 
>>Cascade mountains.  Have been on many of the hikes in the "100 hikes" book.  
>>I upgraded finally and bought all new lighter-weight gear, as "toughing it 
>>out" old-school became too much for me in my mid-40's.  I don't like to feel 
>>like a mule any longer. Smile. 
>>
>>
>>Last summer I did 2 long camping trips (14 days and 10 days) on the WA coast 
>>and Utah, respectively, with long day hikes, but no backpacking.  I love 
>>being out there though - I had to step back a few years ago as I had back and 
>>knee injuries from skiing to recover from.  I hope to go again this summer.
>>
>>
>>I've never hiked on the AT, but read the book "A Walk in the Woods" by Bill 
>>Bryson, which was humorous.  
>>
>>
>>Seventy-one miles is a great accomplishment; must have been a fabulous trip.  
>>Emily.  
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> From: Carol 
>>>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>>>Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 2:18 PM
>>>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Backpacking --- Emily
>>> 
>>>
>>>  
>>>Hey Emily...
>>>
>>>Thought I'd bump this in case you missed it before. 
>>>
>>>Cheers!
>>>~Carol :)
>>>
>>>***
>>>
>>>Emily, you mentioned in another post that you backpack.
>>>
>>>Have you done much backpacking and where are some of the places you have 
>>>backpacked?
>>>
>>>[...]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Carol"  wrote:

 Emily, you mentioned in another post that you backpack. 
 
 Have you done much backpacking and where are some of the places you have 
 back packed?
 
 I just started backpacking in 2009. I've always loved the woods and have 
 been a day hiker all my life, but my health (in the past) kept from being 
 able to back pack. Finally (at age 49) I was well enough to give it a go. 
 
 I've only done a little bit and my longest trip was only 71 miles. I've 
 done other short trips for a night or two.
 
 I live on the east coast in North Carolina, so the Appalachian Trail is in 
 my back yard and I feel at home there. I have backpacked a small portion 
 of the AT in New York.
 
 My high school dream was to thru-hike the AT some day. I got chronically 
 sick at age 22 and was stuck in that chronic ill health for a few decades.
 
 But now my high school dream is alive again. I want to thru-hike the AT 
 the year I turn 60 or before if life circumstances fall into place prior 
 to the big six zero. But, I'm thinking I'll hike the upper half (Harper's 
 Ferry to Katahdin) and then take a bus back to Harper's Ferry and hike the 
 lower half (Harper's Ferry to Springer). So technically it may be just two 
 giant section hikes with a week or so off in between.

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
> 
>
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Uber-narcissists who would fit right in on FFL

[Share Long]

Yes, we all seem to like the body parts that project out (-:
Switching gears a little, Steve, what about turq's topic, your favorite 
romantic movie of all time?





 From: seventhray27 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 10:41 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Uber-narcissists who would fit right in on FFL
 

  
I've got to add a funny little piece to the story, especially on this 
Valentine's Day.  That is the power of the breast.  In those early days and 
months as an infant, there was no trauma that could stand up to the power of 
the breast.  I remember hearing from other friends about the circumcision.  
"Oh" they would say, "Our little guy was doing great until the cirumcision, 
then he never slept well again"  I was expecting the worst.  But as had 
happened many before that event, and hundreds of time after, putting the baby 
up to the breast seemed to solve any problem. He seemed to get over the 
"trauma" of the circumcism, in about one minute.
And then once we realized that the baby could not tolerate (cow's milk) dairy 
that he was getting via breast milk, then we were really home free.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
> >
> > Hi Steve, hope you and your wife are having a sweet Valentine's
> Day.Â
> > Sorry to be nosy but did you all know from the start how many children
> you wanted?
> > Are they choosing for themselves which religion to follow?
> 
> 
> Wow Share. You know just what questions to ask, to release a torrent
> of info from me.
> 
> Fortunately it has been a very low key Valentine's day. A friend is in
> town, and it has caused me go to sleep late two nights in a row, and
> arrive home late from work. I had intended to stop at Aldi's on my way
> home tonight, and pick up some roses, but was not able to do so. So
> Valentine's day has been mostly my daughter giving a present to my wife.
> 
> I have mentioned here before that I was 35 when I got married, and my
> wife was 38. First time for both of us. We had our first child, a boy
> when she was forty, and the third child, a girl when she was 44. 
> Inbetween was a boy.
> 
> I hope I am not boring anyone yet. When she was pregnant with the first
> child, we attended all the Lamaze (sp?) classes, and so in the delivery
> room I was there as her "coach" to help with the breathing etc. To
> back up a bit, the due date came and went, and after one week, we
> learned of an acupunture pressure point, between the big toe and the
> next toe (I believe). That worked after a couple hours, and she went
> into labor.
> 
> At any rate, I performed my role as coach, and soon a little boy popped
> out, and he scored an 8 out of 8 (think I have that right) on the
> Apscar test. And he performed well on most every test he's taken after
> that, at least until high school when he started to take his studying
> for granted. But I digress yet again.
> 
> Anyway, by the time the second child was born, I was happy that I was
> allowed to be not quite as involved in the actual birth. That little
> guy popped out and was all red. Literally his body was very red. I was
> told that there was a strong Mars influence at the time of his birth.
> That was January 24 th, 1996. I don't remember what time.
> 
> By the time the girl was born, I would not have minded being several
> hundred miles away, and to learn of her birth by a postcard. I had sort
> of had enough of the birthing room. Especially since there were some
> complications. Luckily, it all worked out. But it was a rather a
> wrenching experience. Thank God we were in the hospital and not at
> home, or giving birth in the bathtub under water, or some place with
> dolphins nearby. Really, I don't mean to demean those methods, but they
> wouldn't have worked for us.
> 
> By the time of the third one, there was not time for even an epideral.
> She had that for the first two I believe.
> 
> Then came the breast feeding, and they all got that, for I think, 18
> months. I could go on and on with this story. Like the estrangement
> that took place between my mom and me and my mom and my wife nearly as
> soon as the first child was born.
> 
> My mom had the expectation that we would want to offload the child to
> her, just as she had offloaded my older sister to her mom, so she could
> resume her active social life. Problem was, my wife was 40 years old,
> had travelled around the world, had had a successful business career,
> and all that she, (and we) wanted was for her to be a full time mom. It
> meant a significant loss of income, but we just modified our life style.
> The rend with my mom never really healed. Not even on my mom's death
> bed when she tried to make amends.
> 
> And yes, my wife would not have minded having another child, but I felt
> three was really enough.
> 
> And I think I have mentioned before that my wife is strong Catholic, and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Shivabalayogi Maharaj

[Richard J. Williams]

> > Never mind Michael, it's okay.
> >
nablusoss1008: 
> I guess some people simply don't have a normal 
> everday life.
>
Maybe it's a new normal, or maybe it's just the only
sadhana they do these days; maybe it's part of their 
program or maybe they just feel better when they have
an enlightened siddha to talk to. LoL!

Uncle Tantra on Practice:

Practice, in Buddhist circles, 
is often a euphemism for meditation. 
And meditation is pretty cool, actually. 

To the outside world, 
it looks like all you do is sit, 
doing nothing. 
But it's a very different experience 
when you practice it yourself. 
You find that all you do is sit, 
doing even less. 

Meditation is magic. 
It is the apprehension of self, 
first as many, 
then as One, 
and finally as Oneness. 

In the practice of meditation, 
we initially focus our attention 
on one thing 
(a meditation object, a sound, a chakra) 
so intently that other things 
(thoughts, sensations) 
fall away, 
leaving only the one thing 
in our attention.

Oddly enough, 
through this practice 
of intense focus, 
we eventually reach 
a state of no thought 
in which even the one thing 
is transcended, 
leaving only attention, 
aware of itself, 
pure, unfocused, 
One. 

Finally, and this is where the magic comes in, 
even the awareness of Self falls away, 
leaving only 
Oneness. 

http://www.ramalila.net/RoadTripMind/rtm05.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: More on polyamory

[Richard J. Williams]

turquoiseb:
> Since I'm having fun rapping about this subject, and 
> because I suspect it'll push a few buttons here ( and
> you know how I love that :-),
>
So, it's all about sex, Uncle Tantra. LoL!

> I'll continue to use up
> my posts for this week early before heading into 
> Amsterdam for the day. 
> 
> In retrospect my made-up word "monogamaphobes" was
> ill-considered, and probably should have been something
> like "polyamoraphobes." I *have* met a few monogamaphobes
> among my extended family's polyamorous friends -- those
> who look down on monogamy as much as monogamists look
> down on polyamory -- but I have very little tolerance
> for them, as do my housemates. We're more of the 
> "different strokes for different folks" and "live and 
> let live" persuasion. 
> 
> Why this whole polyamory thing appeals to me is the some-
> what remarkable degrees of *honesty* I've found in some
> people who practice it. That and the lack of one of the
> afflictive emotions, jealousy. They tend to believe that
> requiring a romantic partner to "love only them" makes
> as little sense as feeling that one cannot love one's
> parents or friends if one has a wife or husband. (Or,
> obviously, that one cannot love one's primary spiritual
> teacher if one visits others.) That's just "love as 
> property" thinking. Icky. Low vibe. 
> 
> Most of the sad history of planet Earth has been the
> result of people raised by nuclear monogamous families.
> That doesn't seem to me to be a great commercial for
> the concept. :-)
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sanskrit word of the "day": kali

[Richard J. Williams]

To sum up what we know about the origin of 'TM' 
practice and MMY's spiritual philosophy, which
as everyone now knows, is akin to the Tantric
Yoga and the worship of Goddess Saraswati in 
India.

Apparently 'Tantrism' (TM) has it's origin in the 
Vajrayana sect of Mahayana Buddhism. According to 
what I've read, Vajrayana originated in Uddiyana, 
located in the modern day Swat Valley in what is 
now Afghanistan, the original home of the Vedic
Rishis who composed the Vedas and invented Mantra
Yoga.

The question is, how did the Tantrism of Kashmere 
get to Karnataka to become the Sri Vidya sect, 
with the meditation and the bija mantras, and the 
purported authorship of the Soundaryalahari to 
the Adi Shankara?

It is a fact that all the Saraswati sannyasins 
adhere to the Sri Vidya. It is also a fact that 
the only requirement, written in stone, for a 
Saraswati Sannyasin is to recite the Gayatri and 
meditate on the Saraswati bija mantra at least 
twice a day, morning and night, without fail.

According to Swami Rama of the Himalayas, SBS used
to meditate on a Sri Yantra with the bija of 
Saraswati inscribed thereon, in Sanskrit.

Read more:

Srividya and Guru Dev 
http://tinyurl.com/dxpf9  

"In 747 the Indian master Padmasambhava traveled 
from Afghanistan to bring Vajrayana Buddhism to 
Tibet and Bhutan, at the request of the king of 
Tibet..." 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vajrayana

"Tantrism originated in the early centuries CE 
and developed into a fully articulated tradition 
by the end of the Gupta period."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tantra

"It is philosophically important to distinguish 
Kashmir Shaivism from the Advaita Vedanta of 
Shankara as both are non-dual philosophies which 
give primacy to Universal Consciousness (Chit or 
Brahman). In Kashmir Shavisim, all things are a 
manifestation of this Consciousness."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashmir_Shaivism

Vijnana Bhairava Tantra:

"The central tenet of this system is everything 
is 'Spanda', both the objective exterior reality 
and the subjective world..."

Spanda:

"The Spanda system, introduced by Vasugupta (c. 
800 AD), is usually described as 'vibration/movement 
of consciousness."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashmir_Shaivism

> > > Sanskrit word of the "day": kali...
> > >
> > The word 'kali' in Hinduism appears in Indian literature 
> > following the Gupta Age, the so-called 'Golden" age in 
> > Indian history. 
> > 
> > Kali is depicted as the 'Shakti' of Shiva. According to 
> > MMY, meditation is reality at rest or absolute pure 
> > concsciousness - Shiva. 
> > 
> > The dynamic and creative aspect of meditation or the 
> > thoughts in the mind, is the active relative aspect of 
> > creation - Shakti. 
> > 
> > For TMers, the absolute Being and the relative becoming 
> > are completley separate, Purusha and prakriti. - activity 
> > and rest. 
> >
> More TMer thoughts on Kali Tantra:
> 
> It would seem that the Marshy got confused - instead of 
> extolling the Vedas, he should have been promoting the 
> Tantras. 
> 
> Apparently there are no 'bija' mantras memtioned in the 
> Rig Veda. In order to establish the TM practice, the 
> Marshy should have been explaining how TM came to use the 
> bija mantras.
> 
> From what I've read, TM practice and the use of bijas 
> comes from the Sri Vidya, and not from the Rig Veda. Sri 
> Vidya is a tantric sect, purportedly founded by the Adi
> Shankaracharya. 
> 
> Swami Brahmanand Saraswati was a member of the Sri Vidya 
> - all the Saraswati dasnamis are headquarted at Sringeri. 
> 
> SBS's guru, Swami Krishanand Saraswati, was from Sringeri. 
> 
> The primary symbol of the Sri Vidya is the Shri Yantra 
> with the TM bijas inscribed thereon.
> 
> So, it's obvious that TM adherents should be looking to 
> the tantras, such as the 'Saundaryalahari' for the 
> origins of TM, not the to the Vedas. 
> 
> The Rig Veda has little to say about yoga practices such 
> as 'TM'. The Rig Veda is based on sacrificial rituals, 
> dedicated to appeasing the celestial beings that control 
> the forces of nature, such as earth, wind and fire, etc. 
> 
> The Demi-gods, such as Krishna, Balarama, and Ramchandra 
> are deified heros of Indian mythology. There are no 
> 'istadevatas' and their 'bija mantras' mentioned in the 
> Rig Veda.
> 
> The use of bijas came a long time after the composition 
> of the Rig Veda, during the Gupta Age in India. Bija 
> mantras are products of the Indian alchemists, not the 
> Vedic rishis. The Rig Veda was probably compiled before 
> the Aryan speakers even arrived in present Pakistan. 
> 
> 'TM' practice is almost pure tantric practice, with a 
> little fertilizer thrown in for good measure. LoL!  
> 
> > So, there are two ways of perceiving the same absolute 
> > reality; there is the transcendental plane, the plane 
> > of pure CC, and there is the active plane, the plane of 
> > relative mass, action, and time. 
> > 
> > According Feuerstein, Shiva symbolizes th

[FairfieldLife] Planet Nibiru coming?

[navashok]

Just imagine seeing this in live, you think you are in the apocalypse.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJxiaUI5SS0

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Sexual Revolution: Polyamory May Be Good for You

[obbajeeba]

Thank you too, Dr. Du M. Bass.
It takes a village to raise the Turq. His mother didn't do it.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> obbajeeba, I enjoy your strength and dignity - It Rocks! Thank you.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Oh yeah, baby, free love if you let me. Lick that extra 
> > > > wet lick lick lick your face and all. Oh, don't forget 
> > > > that rubber! Hey, give me a full physical for everyone 
> > > > who swings and I will be a millionaire! 
> > > > Did you know that venereal disease is pretty common 
> > > > among the aging population? They like to wank the wong 
> > > > to barren wombs of the love canal! No pregnancy and 
> > > > viagra..whoopie! 
> > > > If it ain't good enough, time to wonder what her snatch 
> > > > feels like..and hers and his is bigger and turns to the 
> > > > left a bit more..
> > > > Good for you my ass. It means you are fucking bored with 
> > > > your partner. 
> > > 
> > > I shall allow this idiocy to stand on its own as an
> > > example of why obba has never succeeded in her attempts 
> > > to flirt with guys on FFL. Who could even *imagine* 
> > > getting it on with someone that ignorant?
> > > 
> > Precisely why you took the time to snip and cut what this post was in 
> > response too, and why you have much free time to troll on FFL. Your crusty 
> > undies are showing, from the shadow in the corner of the room, only lit by 
> > your laptop LED screen, and your perverted mind makes clear your real 
> > interest here, is to stroke your member and sip your drink to an imaginary 
> > friend, you call intellectual soft porn, waiting for the next gala to 
> > parade with your favorite movie stars. Ahh, as the mangy castrated bull 
> > stands in the field watching the real males hump their way to offspring, 
> > something your squirt can only wish for in the puddle of yellow spill below 
> > your belly. Tinkling delight of your urine sooth, Turq thinks, "Who's wife 
> > can I best beat off too, from this plastic keyboard orgasm happening in 
> > front of me and I assume my penis is erect for you oh cherished one."
> > Flirting?  Flirting is your "imagination," for if this was the case, the 
> > visual verbiage would lay in private message as you so humbly write and 
> > respond to.
> > No, wait, the Turq knows when one is flirting and how can it be the most 
> > ignorant would come like the Ganges River and what single man with a 
> > working firm, wood, avoid what nature? Cleanse yourself, bathe in the 
> > waters of real women.
> > Turq, back to your movie fantasy of women above cunt status, which is why 
> > you have never had a lasting relationship with any woman in your whole 
> > life, including your Mother who was glad to see you move away, that spurt 
> > your father left behind, her nightmare result, she knew she had to raise 
> > you to never reproduce. Window shopping in Amsterdam, need I say anymore?
> > 
> >   
> > > Instead I'll focus in one of my last posts for the 
> > > week on the excellent article that Alex found and 
> > > posted. It's about bloody time that someone did some 
> > > real studies on polyamorous relationships, to help 
> > > overcome the idiotic ideas that monogomaphobes have 
> > > about them. 
> > > 
> > > Living as I do as a non-involved fly on the wall in a
> > > polyamorous household, I have a more realistic picture
> > > of what is involved in nonmonogamous relationships than
> > > most. If there is a single word that characterizes the 
> > > successful ones I've seen, that word is *honesty*. 
> > > 
> > > It's not about the sex, or as the idiot above suggests,
> > > about being bored with one's partner. It's about having
> > > the freedom to have more than one partner if one is
> > > "drawn that way." Claiming that "there can be only one"
> > > is as stupid in romantic relationships as it is for the
> > > people who claim that "seeing other teachers" is suffic-
> > > ient grounds to excommunicate someone from a spiritual
> > > organization. And even in that parallel, as we all know
> > > from the history of the TMO, people are willing to
> > > *overlook* "straying" to other teachers AS LONG AS
> > > THOSE WHO DO IT *LIE* ABOUT IT. It's the *openness*
> > > and the *non-willingness* to lie about one's actions
> > > or apologize for them that the sexual prudes and the 
> > > spiritual fascists hate.
> > > 
> > > I've seen the non-lying, open approach to relationships
> > > WORK, and work well in nonmonogamous relationships. 
> > > Alas, I cannot say that for most of the monogamous 
> > > relationships I've been exposed to. While publicly 
> > > clinging to the notion of monogamy, all one has to do
> > > is look at divorce statistics to see that over 50% of
> > > them are more often than not a rats' nest of 

[FairfieldLife] My favorate female airline announcement voice

[navashok]

Flying with an Arab airline last time, I was taken aback by the almost 
transcendental ethereal sounding announcement. I always perceived arab to be 
somewhat hard sounding, this here is the opposite:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UymcFJrquNw#t=100s
(The announcement starts at 1m 45s)

And here the Japanese equivalent: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrkdgpK4Hpw#t=70s (after 1m 10s)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Shivabalayogi Maharaj

[navashok]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> 
> > 
> > Never mind Michael, it's okay.
> 
> I guess you saw that the post was to Sal, not navashok ?

Yes, I saw that post of yours. But when I saw the first post of Michael, it 
didn't hurt me. That's what I wanted to express. 

And I thought that you becoming the pope was a witty answer. But when you check 
out that master Jesus (different from the Maitreya) in Italy, you'll tell us, 
right?
 
> Anyway it's rather interesting that this MJ character is posting deleted 
> posts here that was up for maximum 10 minutes. 
> I guess some people simply don't have a normal everday life.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Sexual Revolution: Polyamory May Be Good for You

[doctordumbass]

obbajeeba, I enjoy your strength and dignity - It Rocks! Thank you.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > >
> > > Oh yeah, baby, free love if you let me. Lick that extra 
> > > wet lick lick lick your face and all. Oh, don't forget 
> > > that rubber! Hey, give me a full physical for everyone 
> > > who swings and I will be a millionaire! 
> > > Did you know that venereal disease is pretty common 
> > > among the aging population? They like to wank the wong 
> > > to barren wombs of the love canal! No pregnancy and 
> > > viagra..whoopie! 
> > > If it ain't good enough, time to wonder what her snatch 
> > > feels like..and hers and his is bigger and turns to the 
> > > left a bit more..
> > > Good for you my ass. It means you are fucking bored with 
> > > your partner. 
> > 
> > I shall allow this idiocy to stand on its own as an
> > example of why obba has never succeeded in her attempts 
> > to flirt with guys on FFL. Who could even *imagine* 
> > getting it on with someone that ignorant?
> > 
> Precisely why you took the time to snip and cut what this post was in 
> response too, and why you have much free time to troll on FFL. Your crusty 
> undies are showing, from the shadow in the corner of the room, only lit by 
> your laptop LED screen, and your perverted mind makes clear your real 
> interest here, is to stroke your member and sip your drink to an imaginary 
> friend, you call intellectual soft porn, waiting for the next gala to parade 
> with your favorite movie stars. Ahh, as the mangy castrated bull stands in 
> the field watching the real males hump their way to offspring, something your 
> squirt can only wish for in the puddle of yellow spill below your belly. 
> Tinkling delight of your urine sooth, Turq thinks, "Who's wife can I best 
> beat off too, from this plastic keyboard orgasm happening in front of me and 
> I assume my penis is erect for you oh cherished one."
> Flirting?  Flirting is your "imagination," for if this was the case, the 
> visual verbiage would lay in private message as you so humbly write and 
> respond to.
> No, wait, the Turq knows when one is flirting and how can it be the most 
> ignorant would come like the Ganges River and what single man with a working 
> firm, wood, avoid what nature? Cleanse yourself, bathe in the waters of real 
> women.
> Turq, back to your movie fantasy of women above cunt status, which is why you 
> have never had a lasting relationship with any woman in your whole life, 
> including your Mother who was glad to see you move away, that spurt your 
> father left behind, her nightmare result, she knew she had to raise you to 
> never reproduce. Window shopping in Amsterdam, need I say anymore?
> 
>   
> > Instead I'll focus in one of my last posts for the 
> > week on the excellent article that Alex found and 
> > posted. It's about bloody time that someone did some 
> > real studies on polyamorous relationships, to help 
> > overcome the idiotic ideas that monogomaphobes have 
> > about them. 
> > 
> > Living as I do as a non-involved fly on the wall in a
> > polyamorous household, I have a more realistic picture
> > of what is involved in nonmonogamous relationships than
> > most. If there is a single word that characterizes the 
> > successful ones I've seen, that word is *honesty*. 
> > 
> > It's not about the sex, or as the idiot above suggests,
> > about being bored with one's partner. It's about having
> > the freedom to have more than one partner if one is
> > "drawn that way." Claiming that "there can be only one"
> > is as stupid in romantic relationships as it is for the
> > people who claim that "seeing other teachers" is suffic-
> > ient grounds to excommunicate someone from a spiritual
> > organization. And even in that parallel, as we all know
> > from the history of the TMO, people are willing to
> > *overlook* "straying" to other teachers AS LONG AS
> > THOSE WHO DO IT *LIE* ABOUT IT. It's the *openness*
> > and the *non-willingness* to lie about one's actions
> > or apologize for them that the sexual prudes and the 
> > spiritual fascists hate.
> > 
> > I've seen the non-lying, open approach to relationships
> > WORK, and work well in nonmonogamous relationships. 
> > Alas, I cannot say that for most of the monogamous 
> > relationships I've been exposed to. While publicly 
> > clinging to the notion of monogamy, all one has to do
> > is look at divorce statistics to see that over 50% of
> > them are more often than not a rats' nest of lies, as 
> > one or both partners step out on the other, lying about 
> > it the whole time. *And*, as pointed out in the article, 
> > taking insane chances of contracting STDs while doing 
> > so, because they're in such a state of denial about 
> > what they're doing that they don't even carry condoms 
> > with them. 
> > 
> > The pers

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Sexual Revolution: Polyamory May Be Good for You

[doctordumbass]

Your comments are hilarious Ann!! Barry is not making much sense here, granted. 
He seems to focus on the very worst prejudices in others, and take that as the 
basis for argument. Sounds depressed. Hope you had a great Valentines Day! 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > >
> > > Oh yeah, baby, free love if you let me. Lick that extra 
> > > wet lick lick lick your face and all. Oh, don't forget 
> > > that rubber! Hey, give me a full physical for everyone 
> > > who swings and I will be a millionaire! 
> > > Did you know that venereal disease is pretty common 
> > > among the aging population? They like to wank the wong 
> > > to barren wombs of the love canal! No pregnancy and 
> > > viagra..whoopie! 
> > > If it ain't good enough, time to wonder what her snatch 
> > > feels like..and hers and his is bigger and turns to the 
> > > left a bit more..
> > > Good for you my ass. It means you are fucking bored with 
> > > your partner. 
> > 
> > I shall allow this idiocy to stand on its own as an
> > example of why obba has never succeeded in her attempts 
> > to flirt with guys on FFL. Who could even *imagine* 
> > getting it on with someone that ignorant?
> 
> Whoa, why the extreme reaction here Barry? Did you know that there are ways 
> to address a difference of opinion with reason, class, openness and 
> diplomacy? Yes indeed, it's true.
> > 
> > Instead I'll focus in one of my last posts for the 
> > week on the excellent article that Alex found and 
> > posted. It's about bloody time that someone did some 
> > real studies on polyamorous relationships, to help 
> > overcome the idiotic ideas that monogomaphobes have 
> > about them. 
> 
> We get the picture, anyone who is a monogomaphobe (which, of course is not 
> even close to being a real word) is an "idiot". Oh, and you are about to 
> enlighten all of us on why and how open minded and enlightened you are on the 
> subject. Let's take a look:
> > 
> > Living as I do as a non-involved fly on the wall in a
> > polyamorous household, I have a more realistic picture
> > of what is involved in nonmonogamous relationships than
> > most. If there is a single word that characterizes the 
> > successful ones I've seen, that word is *honesty*. 
> 
> Oh, you are amazing. And what an original conclusion. "Honesty" who would 
> have thought? And all this time I thought it was about how good looking the 
> other partner was that kept a relationship intact.
> > 
> > It's not about the sex, or as the idiot above suggests,
> > about being bored with one's partner. It's about having
> > the freedom to have more than one partner if one is
> > "drawn that way." Claiming that "there can be only one"
> > is as stupid in romantic relationships as it is for the
> > people who claim that "seeing other teachers" is suffic-
> > ient grounds to excommunicate someone from a spiritual
> > organization. And even in that parallel, as we all know
> > from the history of the TMO, people are willing to
> > *overlook* "straying" to other teachers AS LONG AS
> > THOSE WHO DO IT *LIE* ABOUT IT. It's the *openness*
> > and the *non-willingness* to lie about one's actions
> > or apologize for them that the sexual prudes and the 
> > spiritual fascists hate.
> 
> Let's see now, how sophisticated is Barry's rebuttal? How do his words here 
> beckon us, entice us to read and take what he says seriously due to their 
> reasonable nature and sense of empathy for the reader? He uses in the short 
> paragraph above the following words and statements as the ultimate allure for 
> us readers: "idiot", "stupid", "sexual prudes", "spiritual fascists". Gee, 
> don't know about the rest of you but I'm transfixed by this human who could 
> write this way. In fact, I am downright infatuated with love/lust. Barry, 
> you're the man.
> > 
> > I've seen the non-lying, open approach to relationships
> > WORK, and work well in nonmonogamous relationships. 
> > Alas, I cannot say that for most of the monogamous 
> > relationships I've been exposed to. While publicly 
> > clinging to the notion of monogamy, all one has to do
> > is look at divorce statistics to see that over 50% of
> > them are more often than not a rats' nest of lies, as 
> > one or both partners step out on the other, lying about 
> > it the whole time. *And*, as pointed out in the article, 
> > taking insane chances of contracting STDs while doing 
> > so, because they're in such a state of denial about 
> > what they're doing that they don't even carry condoms 
> > with them. 
> > 
> > The person who benefits most from the particular non-
> > monogamous relationship I live with is 4-year-old Maya.
> > She is fortunate enough to have two loving mothers and
> > one loving father, not to mention a weird Uncle who is
> > not romantically involved with any of them but approves
> > fully of 

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Sexual Revolution: Polyamory May Be Good for You

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> >
> > Oh yeah, baby, free love if you let me. Lick that extra 
> > wet lick lick lick your face and all. Oh, don't forget 
> > that rubber! Hey, give me a full physical for everyone 
> > who swings and I will be a millionaire! 
> > Did you know that venereal disease is pretty common 
> > among the aging population? They like to wank the wong 
> > to barren wombs of the love canal! No pregnancy and 
> > viagra..whoopie! 
> > If it ain't good enough, time to wonder what her snatch 
> > feels like..and hers and his is bigger and turns to the 
> > left a bit more..
> > Good for you my ass. It means you are fucking bored with 
> > your partner. 
> 
> I shall allow this idiocy to stand on its own as an
> example of why obba has never succeeded in her attempts 
> to flirt with guys on FFL. Who could even *imagine* 
> getting it on with someone that ignorant?

Whoa, why the extreme reaction here Barry? Did you know that there are ways to 
address a difference of opinion with reason, class, openness and diplomacy? Yes 
indeed, it's true.
> 
> Instead I'll focus in one of my last posts for the 
> week on the excellent article that Alex found and 
> posted. It's about bloody time that someone did some 
> real studies on polyamorous relationships, to help 
> overcome the idiotic ideas that monogomaphobes have 
> about them. 

We get the picture, anyone who is a monogomaphobe (which, of course is not even 
close to being a real word) is an "idiot". Oh, and you are about to enlighten 
all of us on why and how open minded and enlightened you are on the subject. 
Let's take a look:
> 
> Living as I do as a non-involved fly on the wall in a
> polyamorous household, I have a more realistic picture
> of what is involved in nonmonogamous relationships than
> most. If there is a single word that characterizes the 
> successful ones I've seen, that word is *honesty*. 

Oh, you are amazing. And what an original conclusion. "Honesty" who would 
have thought? And all this time I thought it was about how good looking the 
other partner was that kept a relationship intact.
> 
> It's not about the sex, or as the idiot above suggests,
> about being bored with one's partner. It's about having
> the freedom to have more than one partner if one is
> "drawn that way." Claiming that "there can be only one"
> is as stupid in romantic relationships as it is for the
> people who claim that "seeing other teachers" is suffic-
> ient grounds to excommunicate someone from a spiritual
> organization. And even in that parallel, as we all know
> from the history of the TMO, people are willing to
> *overlook* "straying" to other teachers AS LONG AS
> THOSE WHO DO IT *LIE* ABOUT IT. It's the *openness*
> and the *non-willingness* to lie about one's actions
> or apologize for them that the sexual prudes and the 
> spiritual fascists hate.

Let's see now, how sophisticated is Barry's rebuttal? How do his words here 
beckon us, entice us to read and take what he says seriously due to their 
reasonable nature and sense of empathy for the reader? He uses in the short 
paragraph above the following words and statements as the ultimate allure for 
us readers: "idiot", "stupid", "sexual prudes", "spiritual fascists". Gee, 
don't know about the rest of you but I'm transfixed by this human who could 
write this way. In fact, I am downright infatuated with love/lust. Barry, 
you're the man.
> 
> I've seen the non-lying, open approach to relationships
> WORK, and work well in nonmonogamous relationships. 
> Alas, I cannot say that for most of the monogamous 
> relationships I've been exposed to. While publicly 
> clinging to the notion of monogamy, all one has to do
> is look at divorce statistics to see that over 50% of
> them are more often than not a rats' nest of lies, as 
> one or both partners step out on the other, lying about 
> it the whole time. *And*, as pointed out in the article, 
> taking insane chances of contracting STDs while doing 
> so, because they're in such a state of denial about 
> what they're doing that they don't even carry condoms 
> with them. 
> 
> The person who benefits most from the particular non-
> monogamous relationship I live with is 4-year-old Maya.
> She is fortunate enough to have two loving mothers and
> one loving father, not to mention a weird Uncle who is
> not romantically involved with any of them but approves
> fully of what they are doing -- all to take care of her
> and teach her things. It's a remarkably *honest* envir-
> onment, one that I'm pretty sure will enable Maya to 
> grow up to be honest herself. 

Methinks Barry has gone off on one big tangent here. Oh Barry, we're over here.
> 
> Like the other members of the extended family I live with,
> I often grow tired of the things that supposedly monoga-
> mous people project onto nonmonogamous relationships, 
> and the holier-than-thou 

[FairfieldLife] Btw. what happened to ..

[navashok]

the new website design competition, for a new logo, favicon, I haven't heard 
back, I thought the idea was to have a unified global website under one domain 
name, is it still on? Anybody knows anything about it? Just curious.

'On 2nd July, Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam announced a competition to design a 
logo and a favicon for the proposed new global website platform for 
Transcendental Meditation that has been presented at the National Directors' 
Guru Purnima conference.'

https://www.mgcwp.org/ico/emailing/2012-07-05_GLOBAL_WEBSITE/2012-07-05_GLOBAL_WEBSITE.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: Shivabalayogi Maharaj

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok  wrote:
>
> 
> 

> 
> Never mind Michael, it's okay.

I guess you saw that the post was to Sal, not navashok ?

Anyway it's rather interesting that this MJ character is posting deleted posts 
here that was up for maximum 10 minutes. 
I guess some people simply don't have a normal everday life.

[FairfieldLife] Re: What is your favorite romantic movie ever, and why?

[obbajeeba]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-t7uVdID3s

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> Sitting here again in my old favorite people-watching cafe in Amsterdam,
> I watch the couples ( and, in keeping with my earlier theme of
> polyamory, sometimes ménages-à-trois or ménages-à-many :-)
> walking by, still in the afterglow of Valentine's Day, and I found
> myself pondering what to write about in my last FFL post of the week.
> 
> I decided on the Subject line above as a topic. Hopefully folks who pile
> on to it as a thread-starter will do so in the same spirit as it is
> intended, as an invitation to talk about something we love, rather than
> things we...uh...don't. Besides, I'm honestly curious as to the choice
> FFL denizens would make if asked to name one -- and ONLY one -- film
> that they consider the Most Romantic Film Ever, for them.
> 
> Don't be embarrassed about 'fessing up -- few films you could name could
> be as revealing as my favorite romantic film of all time (reviewed
> below). :-) I watched it again yesterday, as is my habit on Valentine's
> Day, and loved it as much in probably my sixtieth viewing of it as I did
> in my first. I've *studied* this film, analyzed it over the years frame
> by frame, and consider it one of the only PERFECT films ever made. It
> was one of those Great Film Debuts That Weren't Followed Up By Similar
> Greatness, a writer-director's first film, in which he pretty much shot
> his wad. Many, including possibly the writer-director himself, have been
> disappointed that he didn't follow up his initial brilliance with more
> of the same.
> 
> But it was still a perfect film IMO, and stands as a monument to the
> attempt to put everything you've got -- body and soul -- into making a
> serious cinematic statement. And all of this in the trappings of a
> fable, an artform that many people consider incapable of saying anything
> serious. I'd review it in depth for you, but I already did, a few years
> ago, so I'll recycle that one (which is more about the film as spiritual
> fable than romantic fable, but take my word for it, the two aren't that
> far apart) rather than attempting a Do-Over.
> 
> But I really am curious as to which film the folks on Fairfield Life
> would name if asked -- as they just were -- to name their single
> favorite romantic film of all time, and why they feel that way. I think
> such a thread would be fun.
> 
> 
> The Teachings of Don Juan
> 
> 
> When you live in a small French village half an hour from the nearest
> movie theater, and you have a large collection of DVDs, you kinda become
> the de facto lending library.  People drop by often to borrow the ones
> they want to see.  And one of the questions they always ask when
> confronted with the shelves and shelves of movies is, "What's your
> favorite film?"  For any film lover this can be a daunting question.
> 
> 
> Unless you actually know, that is.  I know.  I'm somewhat ashamed to
> admit it, given the way the world reacts to hopeless romantics, but I
> know.  My favorite film (watching it again as I write this) is Jeremy
> Leven's Don Juan de Marco.
> 
> 
> Yeah, yeah...I know.  "Ick...Uncle Tantra's favorite movie is a chick
> flick."  I get that a lot.  Personally, I think the film is much more a
> guy flick than a chick flick, but I would love it even if it had
> received a five-star review from Cosmo.
> 
> 
> As a film fan I would love it because it's impeccable.  I have seen the
> film literally dozens of times, and cannot detect a flaw in either the
> script or the execution of that script.  I would also love it for its
> acting.  Johnny Depp, who always seems to give his best, does so again. 
> Faye Dunaway just eats the camera in the few scenes she is in, and
> steals the whole movie with one line.  And Marlon Brando comes out of a
> long somnambulism to deliver a surprisingly touching and vibrant
> performance.
> 
> 
> As an artist, I would love the film because it is one of those
> devote-your-life-to-creating-one-memorable-work-of-art kinda movies. 
> Jeremy Leven wrote and directed, and supposedly struggled for years to
> get the film made.  It shows.
> 
> 
> As a hopeless romantic, I would love it because it is arguably the most
> romantic film ever made.  If you are hopelessly burdened with being a
> hopeless romantic, how could you not love lines like:
> 
> 
> "There are only four questions of value in life, Don Octavio:
> 
> What is sacred?
> 
> Of what is the spirit made?
> 
> What is worth living for?
> 
> And what is worth dying for?
> 
> The answer to each is the same — only love."
> 
>   But as a spiritual seeker, I love it even more because I see things in
> the film that many do not.  I see it as a homage to the notion of
> Castaneda's separate realities, and to the enduring charm of a better
> dream.  When people who have not seen the movie ask me about it, I
> usually describe it as a film about a crazy man and the person who cures
> him.
> 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Shivabalayogi Maharaj

[navashok]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> Wow! The bile you spew certainly brands you as a true Marshy disciple!
> 

Never mind Michael, it's okay.
> 
> 
>  From: nablusoss1008 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 11:36 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Shivabalayogi Maharaj
>  
> 
>   
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> > >
> > > I sincerely hope that when this young man is not meditating or eating 
> > > fruit he is studying to be an engineer or a software designer or 
> > > something like that. A "poor, reclusive" life for a 23-year-old does not 
> > > sound very promising. 
> > > 
> > 
> > Yep, but that's exactly what we did when we joined the movement. According 
> > to you, there couldn't have been a Buddha or Jesus Christ. Why did the 
> > Buddha leave his fathers kingdom to become a monk and meditate? He could 
> > have just stayed at home and become something reasonable. Or Jesus, why did 
> > he have to go to the desert for 40 days to have visitations of gods and the 
> > devil? He could have just stayed home and become an honorable carpenter. He 
> > could have built nice homes and furniture for the community he lived in and 
> > probably also lived a bit longer.
> 
> Sometimes it's refreshing to do something totally different. 
> Like for example agreeing with someone I usually consider a useless nitwit, 
> an arrogant Scorpion and an amateur. 
> In his above points this navashok-character brings forward valuable points 
> for a change. Well done !
>

[FairfieldLife] What is your favorite romantic movie ever, and why?

[turquoiseb]

Sitting here again in my old favorite people-watching cafe in Amsterdam,
I watch the couples ( and, in keeping with my earlier theme of
polyamory, sometimes ménages-à-trois or ménages-à-many :-)
walking by, still in the afterglow of Valentine's Day, and I found
myself pondering what to write about in my last FFL post of the week.

I decided on the Subject line above as a topic. Hopefully folks who pile
on to it as a thread-starter will do so in the same spirit as it is
intended, as an invitation to talk about something we love, rather than
things we...uh...don't. Besides, I'm honestly curious as to the choice
FFL denizens would make if asked to name one -- and ONLY one -- film
that they consider the Most Romantic Film Ever, for them.

Don't be embarrassed about 'fessing up -- few films you could name could
be as revealing as my favorite romantic film of all time (reviewed
below). :-) I watched it again yesterday, as is my habit on Valentine's
Day, and loved it as much in probably my sixtieth viewing of it as I did
in my first. I've *studied* this film, analyzed it over the years frame
by frame, and consider it one of the only PERFECT films ever made. It
was one of those Great Film Debuts That Weren't Followed Up By Similar
Greatness, a writer-director's first film, in which he pretty much shot
his wad. Many, including possibly the writer-director himself, have been
disappointed that he didn't follow up his initial brilliance with more
of the same.

But it was still a perfect film IMO, and stands as a monument to the
attempt to put everything you've got -- body and soul -- into making a
serious cinematic statement. And all of this in the trappings of a
fable, an artform that many people consider incapable of saying anything
serious. I'd review it in depth for you, but I already did, a few years
ago, so I'll recycle that one (which is more about the film as spiritual
fable than romantic fable, but take my word for it, the two aren't that
far apart) rather than attempting a Do-Over.

But I really am curious as to which film the folks on Fairfield Life
would name if asked -- as they just were -- to name their single
favorite romantic film of all time, and why they feel that way. I think
such a thread would be fun.


The Teachings of Don Juan


When you live in a small French village half an hour from the nearest
movie theater, and you have a large collection of DVDs, you kinda become
the de facto lending library.  People drop by often to borrow the ones
they want to see.  And one of the questions they always ask when
confronted with the shelves and shelves of movies is, "What's your
favorite film?"  For any film lover this can be a daunting question.


Unless you actually know, that is.  I know.  I'm somewhat ashamed to
admit it, given the way the world reacts to hopeless romantics, but I
know.  My favorite film (watching it again as I write this) is Jeremy
Leven's Don Juan de Marco.


Yeah, yeah...I know.  "Ick...Uncle Tantra's favorite movie is a chick
flick."  I get that a lot.  Personally, I think the film is much more a
guy flick than a chick flick, but I would love it even if it had
received a five-star review from Cosmo.


As a film fan I would love it because it's impeccable.  I have seen the
film literally dozens of times, and cannot detect a flaw in either the
script or the execution of that script.  I would also love it for its
acting.  Johnny Depp, who always seems to give his best, does so again. 
Faye Dunaway just eats the camera in the few scenes she is in, and
steals the whole movie with one line.  And Marlon Brando comes out of a
long somnambulism to deliver a surprisingly touching and vibrant
performance.


As an artist, I would love the film because it is one of those
devote-your-life-to-creating-one-memorable-work-of-art kinda movies. 
Jeremy Leven wrote and directed, and supposedly struggled for years to
get the film made.  It shows.


As a hopeless romantic, I would love it because it is arguably the most
romantic film ever made.  If you are hopelessly burdened with being a
hopeless romantic, how could you not love lines like:


"There are only four questions of value in life, Don Octavio:

What is sacred?

Of what is the spirit made?

What is worth living for?

And what is worth dying for?

The answer to each is the same — only love."

  But as a spiritual seeker, I love it even more because I see things in
the film that many do not.  I see it as a homage to the notion of
Castaneda's separate realities, and to the enduring charm of a better
dream.  When people who have not seen the movie ask me about it, I
usually describe it as a film about a crazy man and the person who cures
him.


Given the two main characters — a young guy who believes that he is
the legendary lover Don Juan and who has been rescued from a rooftop in
the middle of a flamboyant suicide attempt, and a psychiatrist at the
state hospital to which he is committed — these prospective viewers
may be lulled into making some

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Sexual Revolution: Polyamory May Be Good for You

[obbajeeba]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> >
> > Oh yeah, baby, free love if you let me. Lick that extra 
> > wet lick lick lick your face and all. Oh, don't forget 
> > that rubber! Hey, give me a full physical for everyone 
> > who swings and I will be a millionaire! 
> > Did you know that venereal disease is pretty common 
> > among the aging population? They like to wank the wong 
> > to barren wombs of the love canal! No pregnancy and 
> > viagra..whoopie! 
> > If it ain't good enough, time to wonder what her snatch 
> > feels like..and hers and his is bigger and turns to the 
> > left a bit more..
> > Good for you my ass. It means you are fucking bored with 
> > your partner. 
> 
> I shall allow this idiocy to stand on its own as an
> example of why obba has never succeeded in her attempts 
> to flirt with guys on FFL. Who could even *imagine* 
> getting it on with someone that ignorant?
> 
Precisely why you took the time to snip and cut what this post was in response 
too, and why you have much free time to troll on FFL. Your crusty undies are 
showing, from the shadow in the corner of the room, only lit by your laptop LED 
screen, and your perverted mind makes clear your real interest here, is to 
stroke your member and sip your drink to an imaginary friend, you call 
intellectual soft porn, waiting for the next gala to parade with your favorite 
movie stars. Ahh, as the mangy castrated bull stands in the field watching the 
real males hump their way to offspring, something your squirt can only wish for 
in the puddle of yellow spill below your belly. Tinkling delight of your urine 
sooth, Turq thinks, "Who's wife can I best beat off too, from this plastic 
keyboard orgasm happening in front of me and I assume my penis is erect for you 
oh cherished one."
Flirting?  Flirting is your "imagination," for if this was the case, the visual 
verbiage would lay in private message as you so humbly write and respond to.
No, wait, the Turq knows when one is flirting and how can it be the most 
ignorant would come like the Ganges River and what single man with a working 
firm, wood, avoid what nature? Cleanse yourself, bathe in the waters of real 
women.
Turq, back to your movie fantasy of women above cunt status, which is why you 
have never had a lasting relationship with any woman in your whole life, 
including your Mother who was glad to see you move away, that spurt your father 
left behind, her nightmare result, she knew she had to raise you to never 
reproduce. Window shopping in Amsterdam, need I say anymore?

  
> Instead I'll focus in one of my last posts for the 
> week on the excellent article that Alex found and 
> posted. It's about bloody time that someone did some 
> real studies on polyamorous relationships, to help 
> overcome the idiotic ideas that monogomaphobes have 
> about them. 
> 
> Living as I do as a non-involved fly on the wall in a
> polyamorous household, I have a more realistic picture
> of what is involved in nonmonogamous relationships than
> most. If there is a single word that characterizes the 
> successful ones I've seen, that word is *honesty*. 
> 
> It's not about the sex, or as the idiot above suggests,
> about being bored with one's partner. It's about having
> the freedom to have more than one partner if one is
> "drawn that way." Claiming that "there can be only one"
> is as stupid in romantic relationships as it is for the
> people who claim that "seeing other teachers" is suffic-
> ient grounds to excommunicate someone from a spiritual
> organization. And even in that parallel, as we all know
> from the history of the TMO, people are willing to
> *overlook* "straying" to other teachers AS LONG AS
> THOSE WHO DO IT *LIE* ABOUT IT. It's the *openness*
> and the *non-willingness* to lie about one's actions
> or apologize for them that the sexual prudes and the 
> spiritual fascists hate.
> 
> I've seen the non-lying, open approach to relationships
> WORK, and work well in nonmonogamous relationships. 
> Alas, I cannot say that for most of the monogamous 
> relationships I've been exposed to. While publicly 
> clinging to the notion of monogamy, all one has to do
> is look at divorce statistics to see that over 50% of
> them are more often than not a rats' nest of lies, as 
> one or both partners step out on the other, lying about 
> it the whole time. *And*, as pointed out in the article, 
> taking insane chances of contracting STDs while doing 
> so, because they're in such a state of denial about 
> what they're doing that they don't even carry condoms 
> with them. 
> 
> The person who benefits most from the particular non-
> monogamous relationship I live with is 4-year-old Maya.
> She is fortunate enough to have two loving mothers and
> one loving father, not to mention a weird Uncle who is
> not romantically involved with any of them but approves
> fully of what they are doing -- all to

[FairfieldLife] Updates on veterans and women's outreaches

[merlin]

transcendental meditation goes mainstream >>>

http://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/emailing/2013_02_13_bw.html

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Norwich University President Richard W. Schneider presents on TM and 
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WATCH THE VIDEO HIGHLIGHTS  
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[FairfieldLife] damn a rude (-: to non habemus papam

[merudanda]

BTW  nomen est omen ' damn a rude" http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/04.gif"; alt=":D"
height="18" width="18">and in memory of Derrida's suggestion to
"elaborate "always to American audience.. All the Valentine's at FFL may
have already found out that the finale scene includesOh my
papahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVAxAt0pDK4&feature=player_detail\
page#t=4490s  and water wide of courselet my inner child
Share with you and all the Catholics ,would-be-Catholics,ex- Catholics
or just catholic (in Greek sense)in
mindhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iq1K88EWqdw  Oh, my
pa-pa, to me he was so wonderfulOh, my pa-pa, to me he was so
goodNo one could be, so gentle and so lovableOh, my pa-pa, he
always understood.Gone are the days when he could take me on his
kneeAnd with   a smile he'd change my tears to laughterOh,
my pa-pa, so funny, so adorableAlways the clown so funny in his
wayOh, my pa-pa, to me he was so wonderfulDeep in my heart I
miss him so todayhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8Nr_Th3H4k
Pope Celestine V became the first pope in history to resign from the
papacy. On the occasion of his 800th birthday, Benedict XVI has declared
the Celestine Year.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JI5nVqTOXvI  
After a brief prayer, Benedict XVI left his pallium, the symbol of his
own episcopal authority as Bishop of Rome, on top of Celestine's
tomb!...not only "privilege"as MMY often mentioned
"responsibility"(spiritual ,human and moral etc) seems actually a
interesting topic to discuss too-wouldn't you agree ...:">have a
nice after -belatedly -Valentines day allwithout
fall--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long 
wrote:>> whatever you are (-:> whereever you are> >
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8hjEYTpwE8> > > snip

[FairfieldLife] Re: damn a rude (-: to Non habemus papam

[merudanda]

BTW  nomen est omen ' damn a rude"  http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/21.gif";
name="Grafik1" align="BOTTOM" border="0" height="18" width="18">and in
memory of Derrida's suggestion to "elaborate "always to American
audience.. All the Valentine's at FFL may have already found out that
the finale scene includesOh my papahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVAxAt0pDK4&feature=player_detailpa\
ge#t=4490s">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVAxAt0pDK4&feature=player_de\
tailpage#t=4490s  and water wide of courselet my inner
child Share with you and all the Catholics ,would-be-Catholics,ex-
Catholics or just catholic (in Greek sense)in mindhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iq1K88EWqdw";>http://www.youtube.com\
/watch?v=Iq1K88EWqdw  Oh, my pa-pa, to me he was so
wonderfulOh, my pa-pa, to me he was so goodNo one could be, so
gentle and so lovableOh, my pa-pa, he always understood.Gone
are the days when he could take me on his kneeAnd withhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8Nr_Th3H4k";>   a smile he'd
change my tears to laughterOh, my pa-pa, so funny, so
adorableAlways the clown so funny in his wayOh, my pa-pa, to me
he was so wonderfulDeep in my heart I miss him so todayhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8Nr_Th3H4k";>http://www.youtube.com\
/watch?v=j8Nr_Th3H4k  Pope
Celestine V became the first pope in history to resign from the papacy.
On the occasion of his 800th birthday, Benedict XVI has declared the
Celestine Year.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JI5nVqTOXvI";>http://www.youtube.com\
/watch?v=JI5nVqTOXvI  After a brief prayer, Benedict XVI left his
pallium, the symbol of his own episcopal authority as Bishop of Rome, on
top of Celestine's tomb!...not only "privilege"as MMY often
mentioned but "responsibility"(spiritual ,human and moral etc) seems
actually a interesting topic to discuss too-wouldn't you agree 
...http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/08.gif";
name="Grafik2" align="BOTTOM" border="0" height="18" width="18">have a
nice after -belatedly -Valentines day allwithout fall
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long 
wrote:>> whatever you are (-:> whereever you are> >
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8hjEYTpwE8> > >
>snip

[FairfieldLife] [greenlogic] Re: [Wisdom-l] Re: [TheBecoming] Fw: The soul,re;latest missive. / Concept of Physical Life

[card]

> >There is only one Origin. This Origin is the Truth at its perfection, for it 
> >is the only thing that truly exists. It has 

Oh yeah:

ekaM sad vipraa bahudhaa vadanti!

[FairfieldLife] More on polyamory

[turquoiseb]

Since I'm having fun rapping about this subject, and 
because I suspect it'll push a few buttons here ( and
you know how I love that :-), I'll continue to use up
my posts for this week early before heading into 
Amsterdam for the day. 

In retrospect my made-up word "monogamaphobes" was
ill-considered, and probably should have been something
like "polyamoraphobes." I *have* met a few monogamaphobes
among my extended family's polyamorous friends -- those
who look down on monogamy as much as monogamists look
down on polyamory -- but I have very little tolerance
for them, as do my housemates. We're more of the 
"different strokes for different folks" and "live and 
let live" persuasion. 

Why this whole polyamory thing appeals to me is the some-
what remarkable degrees of *honesty* I've found in some
people who practice it. That and the lack of one of the
afflictive emotions, jealousy. They tend to believe that
requiring a romantic partner to "love only them" makes
as little sense as feeling that one cannot love one's
parents or friends if one has a wife or husband. (Or,
obviously, that one cannot love one's primary spiritual
teacher if one visits others.) That's just "love as 
property" thinking. Icky. Low vibe. 

Most of the sad history of planet Earth has been the
result of people raised by nuclear monogamous families.
That doesn't seem to me to be a great commercial for
the concept. :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Belatedly posting some BOOBIES for Valentine's Day!

[merudanda]

cool
blue [:x]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7MKVWpdQZ0

you forgot to mention that if the female Booby is attracted, then she
will join the dance..
And  the "sky calling" performed by Wandering Albatross as  part of its
mating dance

  [http://wwwdelivery.superstock.com/Image/4141/Thumb/4141-1465.jpg]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=MBm3oqMnWyo

Kecak Cult Monkey Dance Ritual  a mating dance, too?

 
[https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR_eMearyVZhCVL_df\
XCI7T65KNXnqPmzNJhQAddv0VquxmFn1e]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3odvMJLGoCo


  [http://i.ytimg.com/vi/YgIt7r_oeAQ/hqdefault.jpg]
Wonder if we may-could ask  the Boobies with which foot it start lifting
first and the  Albatross where the sky is -would they get confused like
a confused centipede-millipede?
As always just curious...and enjoying the bright blue color---

BTW do you know why blue becomes the fav. color of the movement ?
You'll be surprised...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> Here's one to keep the moderators on their toes:
>
>
>
[https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/404927_550752011\
\
> 612481_626102332_n.jpg]
> Meet the blue footed booby, found from the Gulf of California down
along
> the western coasts of Central and South America to Peru. Their bright
> blue feet are a sexually selected trait. The brighter a  male's feet,
> the more attractive he is to a female. To attract a female,  they have
> an elaborate dancing ritual to display their feet, first  lifting one
> foot and then the other.
>

[FairfieldLife] [just kidding] Hmm... vibhuuti and wave function collapse, part 1?

[card]

Hypothesis:

Seems to us, that the vibhuuti_s ("siddhis") described in
the third book (vibhuuti*-paada) of MaharSi Patañjali's yoga-suutra_s might in 
quantum mechanics terminology be based on the wave function collapse!

* pronounce ~ we-bhooty

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Sexual Revolution: Polyamory May Be Good for You

[turquoiseb]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> The French had it right all along:
> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/01/world/europe/mazarine-pingeot-mitterrand-daughter-looks-back.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

BTW, I meant that the fact that Mitterand's mistress
walked side by side with his wife in his state funeral
procession was "getting it right," not the secrecy
that the family had to put on for the French counter-
parts of the monogamaphobes. 

The secrecy, as it turned out, was entirely unnecessary.
Almost no one in France had any problems with Mitterrand
having a second family, no more than his wife did. I
heard people discussing this all the time when I lived
in France, and everyone considered it pretty normal.

As for Ms. Pingeot herself, she has happy memories of
being with a loving father. It's all the hypocrisy that
some in Miterrand's government felt they had to impose
on him that caused damage, not the open relationship
he had with his wife and mistress. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Sexual Revolution: Polyamory May Be Good for You

[turquoiseb]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
>
> Oh yeah, baby, free love if you let me. Lick that extra 
> wet lick lick lick your face and all. Oh, don't forget 
> that rubber! Hey, give me a full physical for everyone 
> who swings and I will be a millionaire! 
> Did you know that venereal disease is pretty common 
> among the aging population? They like to wank the wong 
> to barren wombs of the love canal! No pregnancy and 
> viagra..whoopie! 
> If it ain't good enough, time to wonder what her snatch 
> feels like..and hers and his is bigger and turns to the 
> left a bit more..
> Good for you my ass. It means you are fucking bored with 
> your partner. 

I shall allow this idiocy to stand on its own as an
example of why obba has never succeeded in her attempts 
to flirt with guys on FFL. Who could even *imagine* 
getting it on with someone that ignorant?

Instead I'll focus in one of my last posts for the 
week on the excellent article that Alex found and 
posted. It's about bloody time that someone did some 
real studies on polyamorous relationships, to help 
overcome the idiotic ideas that monogomaphobes have 
about them. 

Living as I do as a non-involved fly on the wall in a
polyamorous household, I have a more realistic picture
of what is involved in nonmonogamous relationships than
most. If there is a single word that characterizes the 
successful ones I've seen, that word is *honesty*. 

It's not about the sex, or as the idiot above suggests,
about being bored with one's partner. It's about having
the freedom to have more than one partner if one is
"drawn that way." Claiming that "there can be only one"
is as stupid in romantic relationships as it is for the
people who claim that "seeing other teachers" is suffic-
ient grounds to excommunicate someone from a spiritual
organization. And even in that parallel, as we all know
from the history of the TMO, people are willing to
*overlook* "straying" to other teachers AS LONG AS
THOSE WHO DO IT *LIE* ABOUT IT. It's the *openness*
and the *non-willingness* to lie about one's actions
or apologize for them that the sexual prudes and the 
spiritual fascists hate.

I've seen the non-lying, open approach to relationships
WORK, and work well in nonmonogamous relationships. 
Alas, I cannot say that for most of the monogamous 
relationships I've been exposed to. While publicly 
clinging to the notion of monogamy, all one has to do
is look at divorce statistics to see that over 50% of
them are more often than not a rats' nest of lies, as 
one or both partners step out on the other, lying about 
it the whole time. *And*, as pointed out in the article, 
taking insane chances of contracting STDs while doing 
so, because they're in such a state of denial about 
what they're doing that they don't even carry condoms 
with them. 

The person who benefits most from the particular non-
monogamous relationship I live with is 4-year-old Maya.
She is fortunate enough to have two loving mothers and
one loving father, not to mention a weird Uncle who is
not romantically involved with any of them but approves
fully of what they are doing -- all to take care of her
and teach her things. It's a remarkably *honest* envir-
onment, one that I'm pretty sure will enable Maya to 
grow up to be honest herself. 

Like the other members of the extended family I live with,
I often grow tired of the things that supposedly monoga-
mous people project onto nonmonogamous relationships, 
and the holier-than-thou bullshit they proclaim, all 
while screwing their secretaries and Pilates instructors
on the side and lying about it. Fuck them all. Give me
people who have the courage to be honest any day. 

The French had it right all along:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/01/world/europe/mazarine-pingeot-mitterrand-daughter-looks-back.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Meanwhile, back in the TMO, you've got such a culture of 
lying that Maharishi could never admit to getting it on
with his female students (and we can be pretty sure that
when he did he was in such denial about it that he didn't
use condoms) and that King Tony can't admit even to his 
closest friends that he's legally *married*. No wonder no 
one has any respect for TMers. They've turned hypocrisy
into an artform. 


> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  wrote:
> >
> > http://news.yahoo.com/sexual-revolution-polyamory-may-good-154751829.html
> > 
> > On Valentine's Day, images of couples are everywhere. They're buying each 
> > other diamond rings, making eyes over expensive restaurant meals and 
> > canoodling over chocolate-covered strawberries and champagne. But 
> > two-by-two isn't the only way to go through life. In fact, an estimated 4 
> > to 5 percent of Americans are looking outside their relationship for love 
> > and sex — with their partner's full permission.
> > 
> > These consensually nonmonogamous relationships, as they're called, don't 
> > conform to the cultural norm of a handholding couple in