[FairfieldLife] Be siddhas (teleioi)!

2013-05-12 Thread card


48 εσεσθε
  ουν
  υμεις
  τελειοι
  ωσπερ
  ο
  πατηρ
  υμων
  ο
  εν
  τοις
  ουρανοις
  τελειος
  εστιν

Esesthe oun umeis teleioi osper o pater umon o en tois ouranois teleios
estin!
  Be
  ye
  therefore
  perfect,
  even
  as your
  Father
  which
  is in
 heaven
  is
  perfect.

My wild guess (substandard transliteraration):
  Be
  (esesthe) ye
  (umeis)  therefore
  (oun) perfect (teleioi),
  even
  as (osper) your
  (umon) Father
  (pater) which
  (o?) is [?] in
  (en) heaven
  (ouranois)  is
  (estin) perfect (teleios).

Well, gots to say Greek seems like umpteen times easier than Sanskrit!




[FairfieldLife] Bill and spankin' the monkey?

2013-05-12 Thread card

Teaching adolescents about masturbation remains controversial in some parts of 
the world. For example, in 1994 Bill Clinton fired Joycelyn Elders who was 
Surgeon General of the United States in part because she advocated teaching 
about masturbation in schools as a way of preventing teenage pregnancy and 
sexually transmitted diseases.[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autoeroticism



[FairfieldLife] Hikipedia

2013-05-12 Thread card

Hikipedia is a Finnish language parody of Wikipedia (hiki = sweat).

Google translation:

Uncyclopedia license terms

First, you hit yourself in the face.
You will have to push the banana in your ear (a plus if you will be out the 
other) every other Sunday.
You will need to provide the webmasters a pint of beer, if you see them in the 
pub.
You agree trollaamaan Finnish Wikipedia at least once a year to screen name 
"uncertain logger average from Finland".
Donate ten euros Ugandans elephant-zoofilia-organization.
Failure to comply with these conditions lead to a painful death, mother in law 
hyljeksyntään, as well as the rejection of your survey. If you have something 
to regret the terms of this license, you might want to go bouncing football on 
the motorway.

http://hikipedia.info/wiki/Hikipedia:Tietoja



[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th

2013-05-12 Thread Jason

> > > 
> > > 
> > > ---  "Ann"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > If I were in FF I would be sure to be there today - no lie.
> > > 
> > ---  "Alex Stanley"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Ugh... I am in FF, and you couldn't pay me to go.
> > >
> > >
> ---  "salyavin808"  wrote:
> >
> > Are you more of a steak and chips man Alex?
> >
> >
---  "Alex Stanley"  wrote:

> Grass-fed steak, and replace the chips with something non-starchy. And, ditch 
> the life-abnegating, fundie Hindu dogma as well.
>

Replace the steak with fish, it's better for you.  

Any other meat, better marinate it with rosemary or else 
cancer causing substances would form in it while cooking.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Where hate lives in America

2013-05-12 Thread Jason


All religions must be subservient to Nature.  Any religion 
that tries to supercede Nature becomes a cancer to society.

Most of the writings in these classical religions were 
written with the intention of usurping political and social 
power.

More research needs to be done on the switching of genes 
during the embryonic stage. Already there is some evidence 
that gay behaviour is due to cross-switching of genes during 
the embryonic stage.  In fact, in future Science might be 
able to reverse the behaviour.


---  Mike Dixon  wrote:
>
> I would think both have a factor. Nature puts us in that situation, we could 
> make it better or worse by how we deal with it. As I said , religions, which 
> are supposed to guard our evolution, recommend suppressing that life style. 
> However as religions *evolved* that suppression became violent, demanding and 
> outright violent. I believe it was Christ that said *mercy* is the heart of 
> the Law, not violent suppression. See the story of Christ and the adulteress 
> brought to Him by Pharisees.
> 
>  
> 
> 
>  From: wgm4u 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 4:41 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where hate lives in America
>   
>    
>  
> As I recall, having heard Charlie over a period of 20+ years in my formative 
> years, he indicated it was the soul, itself, that was recalcitrant in 
> cooperating with natural law that resulted in one being born "light in the 
> loafers" as he suggested, not nature itself!!
> 
> --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  
> wrote:
> >
> > I not so sure people *make* themselves gay by choices they make in previous 
> > life times. According to Charlie Lutz, as the soul evolves, it takes birth 
> > as male or female three times, then takes birth the next three times as the 
> > opposite sex. That transition from one sex to the other is an awkward stage 
> > in which the soul carries over strong tendencies(desires) from the previous 
> > experiences as the opposite sex. The second birth normalizes and the third 
> > birth as a male makes one super masculine, or as a female, super feminine. 
> > It's these *extreme* experiences that carry over to the next birth as 
> > one of the opposite sex, creating the more effeminate male or the butch tom 
> > boy. Religions tend to recommend or encourage the suppression of these 
> > tendencies in these awkward stages. If done properly, perhaps there is some 
> > spiritual merit to it. If done improperly, who knows? This hypothesis would 
> > indicate that everybody has the full range of all of these
> >  experiences over and over again until we learn how treat each other and 
> > move on.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: wgm4u 
> > To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 3:35 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where hate lives in America
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > Depends on how you define 'homophobic', if you believe that homosexuality 
> > is contrary to natural law, then I would assume this study would coin you 
> > as homophobic, even though you may be a very supportive and loving person 
> > of all your brothers and sisters, regardless.
> > 
> > On the other hand, those who are Religio-phobic may want to actually harm 
> > those who don't believe like them, where's the *hate* there?
> > 
> > BTW, God (or nature) didn't make people Gay, people make themselves Gay by 
> > choices they make in previous lifetimes (Metempsychosis (Greek: 
> > μετεμψÏχωÏÆ'ις) is a philosophical term 
> > in the Greek language referring to transmigration of the soul, especially 
> > its reincarnation after death, the evolution of the soul, "from clod, to 
> > God").
> > 
> > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > >
> > > Fascinating study. Students from Humboldt State University
> > > track 150,000 geo-encoded Tweets, parsing them for hate
> > > words related to homophobia, racism, and disability-
> > > mocking. Where do you think the "hot spots" are? Color 
> > > me not surprised.
> > > 
> > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/interactive/2013/may/10/twitter-geography-hate-racism-homophobia
> > >
> >
>




[FairfieldLife] Interview with Paul McCartney and other celebrities on huffingtonpost

2013-05-12 Thread merlin


Interview with Paul McCartney
and other celebrities 

on huffingtonpost.com >>>


Congressman Mark Sanford Opens Up About Meditation Practice ...
___.



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/10/congressman-mark-sanford-_n_3248161.html?utm_hp_ref=healthy-living#slide=812601

***.***
*
*


[FairfieldLife] Re: Collectable Item-Ladies Gold Rolex given by Maharishi

2013-05-12 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u  wrote:
>
> PS. I have my personally signed copy of the Bhagavad Gita at Humbolt by MMY 
> signed as *Maharishi/enjoy*; really nice actually, I'd be willing to sell it 
> for say, 5 grand?, ($5000. US). Kind of tag-eared and a good reference, but 
> hey for 5G? a deal!

How much $$ for your grandmother ?



[FairfieldLife] Re: Where hate lives in America

2013-05-12 Thread wgm4u
That sounds elementary to me.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
>
> I said nothing about DNA. I referred to past impressions, as you have. Refer 
> back to what I said Charlie had said. Strong impressions from previous births 
> influence the next birth. A very feminine woman takes rebirth as a man in the 
>  next, however, the impressions from the previous birth carry over in a 
> masculine body, influencing thoughts, desires and proclivities. That is not a 
> choice. I can agree that the more one gives into those proclivities, the 
> stronger they can become during the evolution of the soul, even to the point 
> that they continue into the next birth and on. The function of religions 
> would be to nip it in the bud, so as not to influence the next birth. In 
> other-words, being gay is not a sin, it's acting out that is and no man/woman 
> is without sin in their lives. Compassion is understanding, not condoning and 
> doing unto others as you would have done unto you. Christ did not condone the 
> behavior of the adulteress nor did He condemn her, He
>  treated her with respect and blessed her, "go and sin no more". We don't 
> know if she did or not, perhaps she did over a period of many births,but that 
> is how he expects us to treat each other.
> 
>  
> 
> 
>  From: wgm4u 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 5:50 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where hate lives in America
>   
>    
>  
> 
> 
> --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  
> wrote:
> >
> > I don't think I said any thing about compromising anything. I said Nature 
> > sets us up and we have to learn to deal with it.
> 
> No, no, no, the left believes they were *born* that way! Somehow, through 
> nature or dna it *just happened*, NOT SO!! Like we were just hatched like 
> chickens?, come on! Human Beings have a past, *As ye sow, so shall ye reap*, 
> OH, btw, Maharishi said that! :-)
> 
> Self responsibility is the FIRST realization to Self Realization; I said that!
> 
> 
> >  From: wgm4u 
> > To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 5:06 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where hate lives in America
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > Come on, doesn't mean the creator meant we should compromise our 
> > principles, as an individual or a nation! (get real) Like, we should 
> > embrace ignorance?
> > 
> > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I would think both have a factor. Nature puts us in that situation, we 
> > > could make it better or worse by how we deal with it. As I said , 
> > > religions, which are supposed to guard our evolution, recommend 
> > > suppressing that life style. However as religions *evolved* that 
> > > suppression became violent, demanding and outright violent. I believe it 
> > > was Christ that said *mercy* is the heart of the Law, not violent 
> > > suppression. See the story of Christ and the adulteress brought to Him by 
> > > Pharisees.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  From: wgm4u 
> > > To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 4:41 PM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where hate lives in America
> > > 
> > >   
> > > 
> > > As I recall, having heard Charlie over a period of 20+ years in my 
> > > formative years, he indicated it was the soul, itself, that was 
> > > recalcitrant in cooperating with natural law that resulted in one being 
> > > born "light in the loafers" as he suggested, not nature itself!!
> > > 
> > > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I not so sure people *make* themselves gay by choices they make in 
> > > > previous life times. According to Charlie Lutz, as the soul evolves, it 
> > > > takes birth as male or female three times, then takes birth the next 
> > > > three times as the opposite sex. That transition from one sex to the 
> > > > other is an awkward stage in which the soul carries over strong 
> > > > tendencies(desires) from the previous experiences as the opposite sex. 
> > > > The second birth normalizes and the third birth as a male makes one 
> > > > super masculine, or as a female, super feminine. It's these 
> > > > *extreme*ÃÆ'‚ experiences that carry over to the next 
> > > > birth as one of the opposite sex, creating the more effeminate male or 
> > > > the butch tom boy. Religions tend to recommend or 
> > > > encourageÃÆ'‚ the suppression of these tendencies in 
> > > > these awkward stages. If done properly, perhaps there is some spiritual 
> > > > merit to it. If done improperly, who knows? This hypothesis would 
> > > > indicate that everybody
>  has the full range of all
> >  of these
> > > >  experiences ov

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where hate lives in America

2013-05-12 Thread Mike Dixon
Hormone exposure for the fetus at critical times is also a theory. A lack of 
testosterone exposure from the mother may influence the development. A theory I 
heard years ago. I don't know if it has been proved or disproved.

 


 From: Jason 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 3:09 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where hate lives in America
  
   
 


All religions must be subservient to Nature.  Any religion 
that tries to supercede Nature becomes a cancer to society.

Most of the writings in these classical religions were 
written with the intention of usurping political and social 
power.

More research needs to be done on the switching of genes 
during the embryonic stage. Already there is some evidence 
that gay behaviour is due to cross-switching of genes during 
the embryonic stage.  In fact, in future Science might be 
able to reverse the behaviour.

---  Mike Dixon  wrote:
>
> I would think both have a factor. Nature puts us in that situation, we could 
> make it better or worse by how we deal with it. As I said , religions, which 
> are supposed to guard our evolution, recommend suppressing that life style. 
> However as religions *evolved* that suppression became violent, demanding and 
> outright violent. I believe it was Christ that said *mercy* is the heart of 
> the Law, not violent suppression. See the story of Christ and the adulteress 
> brought to Him by Pharisees.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: wgm4u 
> To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 4:41 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where hate lives in America
> 
>   
> 
> As I recall, having heard Charlie over a period of 20+ years in my formative 
> years, he indicated it was the soul, itself, that was recalcitrant in 
> cooperating with natural law that resulted in one being born "light in the 
> loafers" as he suggested, not nature itself!!
> 
> --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  
> wrote:
> >
> > I not so sure people *make* themselves gay by choices they make in previous 
> > life times. According to Charlie Lutz, as the soul evolves, it takes birth 
> > as male or female three times, then takes birth the next three times as the 
> > opposite sex. That transition from one sex to the other is an awkward stage 
> > in which the soul carries over strong tendencies(desires) from the previous 
> > experiences as the opposite sex. The second birth normalizes and the third 
> > birth as a male makes one super masculine, or as a female, super feminine. 
> > It's these *extreme* experiences that carry over to the next birth as 
> > one of the opposite sex, creating the more effeminate male or the butch tom 
> > boy. Religions tend to recommend or encourage the suppression of these 
> > tendencies in these awkward stages. If done properly, perhaps there is some 
> > spiritual merit to it. If done improperly, who knows? This hypothesis would 
> > indicate that everybody has the full range of all
 of these
> >  experiences over and over again until we learn how treat each other and 
> > move on.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: wgm4u 
> > To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 3:35 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where hate lives in America
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > Depends on how you define 'homophobic', if you believe that homosexuality 
> > is contrary to natural law, then I would assume this study would coin you 
> > as homophobic, even though you may be a very supportive and loving person 
> > of all your brothers and sisters, regardless.
> > 
> > On the other hand, those who are Religio-phobic may want to actually harm 
> > those who don't believe like them, where's the *hate* there?
> > 
> > BTW, God (or nature) didn't make people Gay, people make themselves Gay by 
> > choices they make in previous lifetimes (Metempsychosis (Greek: 
> > μεÄεμÈÃÇÉÃÆ'ιÂ) is a philosophical term in the 
> > Greek language referring to transmigration of the soul, especially its 
> > reincarnation after death, the evolution of the soul, "from clod, to God").
> > 
> > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > >
> > > Fascinating study. Students from Humboldt State University
> > > track 150,000 geo-encoded Tweets, parsing them for hate
> > > words related to homophobia, racism, and disability-
> > > mocking. Where do you think the "hot spots" are? Color 
> > > me not surprised.
> > > 
> > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/interactive/2013/may/10/twitter-geography-hate-racism-homophobia
> > >
> >
>

   
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: YAHWEH NUKED US BEFORE TRUMAN--Sasha Lessin, Ph.D. (Anthropology, UCLA) Web Radi

2013-05-12 Thread Alex Stanley

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > "Surely to God no one believes either the author or that GN could
> possibly have posted this with a straight face."
> >
> > Ann, I cannot let our friendship stand in the way of my Cosmic
> integrity. I am reporting you immediately to Zanzar 1, sub-Lord of the
> Outer Planets, sector Ack-Speedo.
> Oh dear Lord, don't report me. Ack is rumoured to be ruthless. And I
> just can't resist a guy in a Speedo.

Ah, but can you resist the Hasselhoffian Recursion?








[FairfieldLife] Re: YAHWEH NUKED US BEFORE TRUMAN--Sasha Lessin, Ph.D. (Anthropology, UCLA) Web Radi

2013-05-12 Thread doctordumbass
My apologies for my rusty use of Official Terms. Zanzar 1 is the entity to whom 
you have been reported. He, she, or it, is the sub-Lord of the solar Outer 
Planets, covering the entirety of sector Ack-Speedo*.

*While the sector's name may conjure up all sorts of cheesy images, this is 
unintended, as the sector is named for those who discovered it, George Ack and 
Mabel Speedo. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
>
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > "Surely to God no one believes either the author or that GN could
> possibly have posted this with a straight face."
> >
> > Ann, I cannot let our friendship stand in the way of my Cosmic
> integrity. I am reporting you immediately to Zanzar 1, sub-Lord of the
> Outer Planets, sector Ack-Speedo.
> Oh dear Lord, don't report me. Ack is rumoured to be ruthless. And I
> just can't resist a guy in a Speedo.
>   [Justin Timberlake Rocks the Speedo]
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >This heresy will not stand.  >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" awoelflebater@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Surely to God no one believes either the author or that GN could
> possibly have posted this with a straight face. I will say, however,
> that Barry nailed it big time on this one.
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hey GN,
> > > >
> > > > The author appears to have deviated from the conservative realm of
> academia into speculative and esoteric science.  A lot of the narrative
> appears to have been taken from Zecariah Sitchin's books.
> > > >
> > > > I don't believe many of the anthropologists would agree with this
> author.
> > > >
> > > > JR
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Goddess Ninmah"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > YAHWEH NUKED US BEFORE TRUMAN--Sasha Lessin, Ph.D.
> (Anthropology, UCLA) Web Radio, article,
> > > > >
> > > > > The horrors perpetrated by Harry Truman, the U.S. President,
> when he ordered the civilian populations of Hiroshima, and, if that were
> not enough, Nagasaki also (to quickly end WWII and beat the Russians to
> Japan), were nothing new on this planet.
> > > > >
> > > > > 3,663 years ago, Yahweh, known then as Enlil, a 9 -12 foot fully
> Homo Sapien ET from the Planet Nibiru, 49 astronomical units from Earth,
> ordered nuclear attacks on the people and cities south of  the (thence)
> Dead Sea in Canaan and on a spaceport he ran in Sinai.  The fallout
> immediately blew over and killed most of the Sumerian Earthlings--those
> loyal to Yahweh.  The moral: Those who support such horrid aggression
> experience, in their turn, the horrors they support.  This article's a
> plea: DISARM NUKES, NEGOTIATE PEACE AND COOPERATION FOR ALL.
> > > > >
> > > > > For article and illustrations that expand this program, see
> > > > >
> http://stargatetothecosmos.org/yahweh-nuked-us-before-truman-web-radio-a\
> rticle-illustrations-galore/
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th

2013-05-12 Thread Share Long
Last night, another seafood place, O'Leary's with Dad and step Mom.  I had 
rockfish with orzo and sugar peas.  I think I'm headed for gout (-:





 From: John 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 2:11 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th
 


  
Share,

The lunch sounds delicious.  I like salmon but haven't tried it with bok choy 
as of yet.

If you can get bok choy over there, you should try Chinese long beans, and mung 
beans for your food preparation.  They're good for health as well.

JR

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Thank God, I just came from lunch with Mom, sister, niece in Annapolis on 
> Carroll's Creek which flows into the Chesapeake Bay.  I got salmon and baby 
> bok choy and mashed cauliflower to die for.  So carry on talking about 
> food.  I am replete and all three doshas are humming along quite nicely (-:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: nablusoss1008 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 1:18 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > Count me in! RSVP, I enjoy my steak medium-well, and I'd like a seat in the 
> > smoking section, please. Hare Hare Krishna Krishna!
> 
> And bring a bottle of Rum :-)
> 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Martin A Rosenthal  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Friends:
>


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dome Rot;

2013-05-12 Thread Share Long
Thanks for the water analogy.  Can you say more about the context of the bliss 
and blissful quote?





 From: wgm4u 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 6:03 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dome Rot;
 


  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Also no trepidation because what is there to be afraid of?   It's all
changing all the time, death happening all around you all the time.  What did
Maharishi say about the relative?  One mass of death.  And in the midst of all
that change and death, something so alive and unchanging. 
>
> He also said bliss is not always blissful.  I think many people >>like to
>>ignore the ramifications of that.

'Bliss' is a poor translation of the profound Sanskrit word 'anandam', as MMY 
says "contact with Brahman brings bliss". In other words, if you haven't 
experienced anandam (indescribable bliss) you haven't fully consciously 
transcended, even once!

His comment bliss is not always blissful is wholly taken out of context and 
misleading (one comment in 50+ years like this).

At first, the self experiences bliss (TC) as the true Self or the EGO 
(ahamkara), much like taking a drink out of a glass of water, as the 
experiences advances it's much like the greater bliss of a pitcher of 
water,(GC) as it advances even further the pitcher breaks and one experiences 
ONESELF as pure unbounded bliss (UC). (SAT-Chit-Ananda)


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: YAHWEH NUKED US BEFORE TRUMAN--Sasha Lessin, Ph.D. (Anthropology, UCLA) Web Radi

2013-05-12 Thread doctordumbass
Its like a picture of me continuously throwing up in my mouth. This could be 
used as a torture device by the CIA.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
wrote:
>
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > >
> > > "Surely to God no one believes either the author or that GN could
> > possibly have posted this with a straight face."
> > >
> > > Ann, I cannot let our friendship stand in the way of my Cosmic
> > integrity. I am reporting you immediately to Zanzar 1, sub-Lord of the
> > Outer Planets, sector Ack-Speedo.
> > Oh dear Lord, don't report me. Ack is rumoured to be ruthless. And I
> > just can't resist a guy in a Speedo.
> 
> Ah, but can you resist the Hasselhoffian Recursion?
>




Re: [FairfieldLife] challenge [was Re: Where hate lives in America]

2013-05-12 Thread Share Long
Doc, big thanks to you.  I read that no one here gets out alive to my Mom and 
she had a good laugh.  And now, some more science for salyavin:  
I remembered that peacocks or their feathers are considered bad luck.  Googled 
it and found out that it's because people associated those round markings with 
the evil eye.  But maybe it depends on the peacock's jyotish chart (-:





 From: "doctordumb...@rocketmail.com" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 10:20 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] challenge [was Re: Where hate lives in America]
 


  
Agreed. This may seem like a simplistic comparison, but I was at the zoo today 
with family, and one of the many peacocks was fanning his tail, putting on the 
iridescent display of green, gold, and blue, and I mentioned that as perfectly 
beautiful as the peacock is, he has this awful, screechy voice. As if the 
template of challenge here on Earth could not be broken, even with something as 
transcendentally beautiful as a peacock.

It is an inescapable fact of life that, as you said, Nature sets us up, and we 
have to deal with it, and as Jimmy Morrison's bio is titled, no one here gets 
out alive.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
>
> I don't think I said any thing about compromising anything. I said Nature 
> sets us up and we have to learn to deal with it.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: wgm4u 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 5:06 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where hate lives in America
> 
> 
>   
> 
> Come on, doesn't mean the creator meant we should compromise our principles, 
> as an individual or a nation! (get real) Like, we should embrace ignorance?
> 
> --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  
> wrote:
> >
> > I would think both have a factor. Nature puts us in that situation, we 
> > could make it better or worse by how we deal with it. As I said , 
> > religions, which are supposed to guard our evolution, recommend suppressing 
> > that life style. However as religions *evolved* that suppression became 
> > violent, demanding and outright violent. I believe it was Christ that said 
> > *mercy* is the heart of the Law, not violent suppression. See the story of 
> > Christ and the adulteress brought to Him by Pharisees.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: wgm4u 
> > To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 4:41 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where hate lives in America
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > As I recall, having heard Charlie over a period of 20+ years in my 
> > formative years, he indicated it was the soul, itself, that was 
> > recalcitrant in cooperating with natural law that resulted in one being 
> > born "light in the loafers" as he suggested, not nature itself!!
> > 
> > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I not so sure people *make* themselves gay by choices they make in 
> > > previous life times. According to Charlie Lutz, as the soul evolves, it 
> > > takes birth as male or female three times, then takes birth the next 
> > > three times as the opposite sex. That transition from one sex to the 
> > > other is an awkward stage in which the soul carries over strong 
> > > tendencies(desires) from the previous experiences as the opposite sex. 
> > > The second birth normalizes and the third birth as a male makes one super 
> > > masculine, or as a female, super feminine. It's these *extreme* 
> > > experiences that carry over to the next birth as one of the opposite sex, 
> > > creating the more effeminate male or the butch tom boy. Religions tend to 
> > > recommend or encourage the suppression of these tendencies in 
> > > these awkward stages. If done properly, perhaps there is some spiritual 
> > > merit to it. If done improperly, who knows? This hypothesis would 
> > > indicate that everybody
 has the full range of all
>  of these
> > >  experiences over and over again until we learn how treat each other and 
> > > move on.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  From: wgm4u 
> > > To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 3:35 PM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where hate lives in America
> > > 
> > >   
> > > 
> > > Depends on how you define 'homophobic', if you believe that homosexuality 
> > > is contrary to natural law, then I would assume this study would coin you 
> > > as homophobic, even though you may be a very supportive and loving person 
> > > of all your brothers and sisters, regardless.
> > > 
> > > On the other hand, those who are Religio-phobic may want to actually harm 
> > > those who don't believe like them, where's the *hate* there?
> > > 
> > > BTW, God (or nature) didn't make people Gay, p

[FairfieldLife] challenge [was Re: Where hate lives in America]

2013-05-12 Thread doctordumbass
Another thought at the Zoo -- If all these animals had hands, we humans would 
be fucked. (If intent on sharing this one, please paraphrase for mom.):-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Doc, big thanks to you.  I read that no one here gets out alive to my Mom 
> and she had a good laugh.  And now, some more science for salyavin:  
> I remembered that peacocks or their feathers are considered bad luck.  
> Googled it and found out that it's because people associated those round 
> markings with the evil eye.  But maybe it depends on the peacock's jyotish 
> chart (-:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: "doctordumbass@..." 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 10:20 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] challenge [was Re: Where hate lives in America]
>  
> 
> 
>   
> Agreed. This may seem like a simplistic comparison, but I was at the zoo 
> today with family, and one of the many peacocks was fanning his tail, putting 
> on the iridescent display of green, gold, and blue, and I mentioned that as 
> perfectly beautiful as the peacock is, he has this awful, screechy voice. As 
> if the template of challenge here on Earth could not be broken, even with 
> something as transcendentally beautiful as a peacock.
> 
> It is an inescapable fact of life that, as you said, Nature sets us up, and 
> we have to deal with it, and as Jimmy Morrison's bio is titled, no one here 
> gets out alive.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
> >
> > I don't think I said any thing about compromising anything. I said Nature 
> > sets us up and we have to learn to deal with it.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: wgm4u 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 5:06 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where hate lives in America
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > Come on, doesn't mean the creator meant we should compromise our 
> > principles, as an individual or a nation! (get real) Like, we should 
> > embrace ignorance?
> > 
> > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I would think both have a factor. Nature puts us in that situation, we 
> > > could make it better or worse by how we deal with it. As I said , 
> > > religions, which are supposed to guard our evolution, recommend 
> > > suppressing that life style. However as religions *evolved* that 
> > > suppression became violent, demanding and outright violent. I believe it 
> > > was Christ that said *mercy* is the heart of the Law, not violent 
> > > suppression. See the story of Christ and the adulteress brought to Him by 
> > > Pharisees.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  From: wgm4u 
> > > To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 4:41 PM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where hate lives in America
> > > 
> > >   
> > > 
> > > As I recall, having heard Charlie over a period of 20+ years in my 
> > > formative years, he indicated it was the soul, itself, that was 
> > > recalcitrant in cooperating with natural law that resulted in one being 
> > > born "light in the loafers" as he suggested, not nature itself!!
> > > 
> > > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I not so sure people *make* themselves gay by choices they make in 
> > > > previous life times. According to Charlie Lutz, as the soul evolves, it 
> > > > takes birth as male or female three times, then takes birth the next 
> > > > three times as the opposite sex. That transition from one sex to the 
> > > > other is an awkward stage in which the soul carries over strong 
> > > > tendencies(desires) from the previous experiences as the opposite sex. 
> > > > The second birth normalizes and the third birth as a male makes one 
> > > > super masculine, or as a female, super feminine. It's these 
> > > > *extreme*ÃÆ'‚ experiences that carry over to the next 
> > > > birth as one of the opposite sex, creating the more effeminate male or 
> > > > the butch tom boy. Religions tend to recommend or 
> > > > encourageÃÆ'‚ the suppression of these tendencies in 
> > > > these awkward stages. If done properly, perhaps there is some spiritual 
> > > > merit to it. If done improperly, who knows? This hypothesis would 
> > > > indicate that everybody
>  has the full range of all
> >  of these
> > > >  experiences over and over again until we learn how treat each other 
> > > > and move on.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >  From: wgm4u 
> > > > To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com 
> > > > Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 3:35 PM
> > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where hate lives in America
> > > > 
> > > > ÃÆ'‚  
> > > > 
> > > > Depends on how yo

[FairfieldLife] Re: YAHWEH NUKED US BEFORE TRUMAN--Sasha Lessin, Ph.D. (Anthropology, UCLA) Web Radi

2013-05-12 Thread Ann


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > Surely to God no one believes either the author or that GN could 
> > > > possibly have posted this with a straight face.
> > > 
> > > Are you kidding? There's a whole sub-culture of evolving new
> > > age guff like this. *Millions* believe it. I know perfectly
> > > sane, intelligent, successful people who believe mankind is 
> > > in telepathic communication with alien beings at the centre 
> > > of the galaxy.
> > 
> > If it was me I would amend that to "...perfectly successful people who 
> > believe mankind is..."
> 
> Nope. Are all christians, muslims insane because they don't apply
> logic to their view of the world? Some would say yes, I think that
> in an absence of structured and tested knowledge about the world
> all sorts of nonsense can creep in and be taken as fact. 
> 
> And in a science-savvy world, these religious sci-fi concepts are
> to be expected. Believing that Marduk is an extraterrestrial is no 
> stranger than believing in astrology or crystal healing.

I think you are taking this past where I was going initially. I was talking 
about the particular  post made by GN which cited a particularly wild assertion 
by Sasha Lessin regarding the Earth having been nuked by aliens a very long 
time ago. In case you have lost the initial guffaw-inspired reaction you no 
doubt had when first reading this little gem let me refresh your memory:

 "3,663 years ago, Yahweh, known then as Enlil, a 9 -12 foot fully Homo
Sapien ET from the Planet Nibiru, 49 astronomical units from Earth, ordered
nuclear attacks on the people and cities south of the (thence) Dead Sea in
Canaan and on a spaceport he ran in Sinai. The fallout immediately blew over
and killed most of the Sumerian Earthlings--those loyal to Yahweh."

If you would like to continue to defend statements like these as perfectly in 
line with other beliefs that run rampant among the human race, be my guest. But 
all I'm saying is that I am pretty sure that anyone who would believe this 
particular theory isn't likely to be having afternoon tea at my abode; I prefer 
not to hang out with crazies.
>




Re: [FairfieldLife] challenge [was Re: Where hate lives in America]

2013-05-12 Thread Share Long
Yikes, would definitely have to regulate intentness and paraphrase so as to 
avoid evoking heart palpitations in Mother, on Mother's Day yet!
Yesterday I even apologized for saying my memory is crap.  Crap being the 
allegedly offensive word.  In case Olde English is not one's mother tongue yada 
yada.

Only going up to 63 here today but Sisterbelle already has the pool heated up 
and my bikini is raring to go ha ha.  Thinking about the heating up of the pool 
and how that's exponentially increasing my carbon footprint, I might end up 
with palpitations myself.  On top of the gout (-:     





 From: "doctordumb...@rocketmail.com" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 8:31 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] challenge [was Re: Where hate lives in America]
 


  
Another thought at the Zoo -- If all these animals had hands, we humans would 
be fucked. (If intent on sharing this one, please paraphrase for mom.):-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Doc, big thanks to you.  I read that no one here gets out alive to my Mom 
> and she had a good laugh.  And now, some more science for salyavin:  
> I remembered that peacocks or their feathers are considered bad luck.  
> Googled it and found out that it's because people associated those round 
> markings with the evil eye.  But maybe it depends on the peacock's jyotish 
> chart (-:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: "doctordumbass@..." 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 10:20 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] challenge [was Re: Where hate lives in America]
> 
> 
> 
>   
> Agreed. This may seem like a simplistic comparison, but I was at the zoo 
> today with family, and one of the many peacocks was fanning his tail, putting 
> on the iridescent display of green, gold, and blue, and I mentioned that as 
> perfectly beautiful as the peacock is, he has this awful, screechy voice. As 
> if the template of challenge here on Earth could not be broken, even with 
> something as transcendentally beautiful as a peacock.
> 
> It is an inescapable fact of life that, as you said, Nature sets us up, and 
> we have to deal with it, and as Jimmy Morrison's bio is titled, no one here 
> gets out alive.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
> >
> > I don't think I said any thing about compromising anything. I said Nature 
> > sets us up and we have to learn to deal with it.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: wgm4u 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 5:06 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where hate lives in America
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > Come on, doesn't mean the creator meant we should compromise our 
> > principles, as an individual or a nation! (get real) Like, we should 
> > embrace ignorance?
> > 
> > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I would think both have a factor. Nature puts us in that situation, we 
> > > could make it better or worse by how we deal with it. As I said , 
> > > religions, which are supposed to guard our evolution, recommend 
> > > suppressing that life style. However as religions *evolved* that 
> > > suppression became violent, demanding and outright violent. I believe it 
> > > was Christ that said *mercy* is the heart of the Law, not violent 
> > > suppression. See the story of Christ and the adulteress brought to Him by 
> > > Pharisees.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  From: wgm4u 
> > > To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 4:41 PM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where hate lives in America
> > > 
> > >   
> > > 
> > > As I recall, having heard Charlie over a period of 20+ years in my 
> > > formative years, he indicated it was the soul, itself, that was 
> > > recalcitrant in cooperating with natural law that resulted in one being 
> > > born "light in the loafers" as he suggested, not nature itself!!
> > > 
> > > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I not so sure people *make* themselves gay by choices they make in 
> > > > previous life times. According to Charlie Lutz, as the soul evolves, it 
> > > > takes birth as male or female three times, then takes birth the next 
> > > > three times as the opposite sex. That transition from one sex to the 
> > > > other is an awkward stage in which the soul carries over strong 
> > > > tendencies(desires) from the previous experiences as the opposite sex. 
> > > > The second birth normalizes and the third birth as a male makes one 
> > > > super masculine, or as a female, super feminine. It's these 
> > > > *extreme*ÃÆ'‚ experiences that carry over to the next 
> > > > birth as one of the opposite sex, creating the more effeminate male or 
> > 

[FairfieldLife] Re: NBC Mae Culpa

2013-05-12 Thread Richard J. Williams


raunchydog: 
> "So...yeah. Let's have even more hearings about Benghazi. 
> This time, let's focus on the real question: What did the
> Republicans know, and when did they know it?"
>
> "The confusion derives from the fact that the 
> militants "swam in the river" (so to speak) 
> created by peaceful protesters, who had 
> gathered to decry that ludicrous anti-Mohammed 
> video, Innocence of Muslims."
>
http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2013/05/benghazi-what-did-republicans-know-and.html
 

>From what I've read, there was no demonstration
in front of the Benghazi consulate. Go figure.

"In addition to getting to the bottom of what the 
administration knew about Benghazi, and when they 
knew it, Congress needs get to the bottom of the 
coverup, which is apparently ongoing." 

'A Benghazi bombshell'
Washington Post:
http://tinyurl.com/btxpbg3



[FairfieldLife] Re: NBC Mae Culpa

2013-05-12 Thread Richard J. Williams
> > Where is the outrage over Obama's coverup of 
>> Benghazi which we *know* is indeed the case?
> >
Alex Stanley: 
> 13 Benghazis That Occurred on Bush's Watch 
> Without a Peep from Fox News
>
Maybe it's all about the cover-up? Go figure.

'Throw Hillary under the bus?'
http://tinyurl.com/bvfwgd9
> 
> http://thedailybanter.com/2013/05/13-benghazis-that-occurred-on-bushs-watch-without-a-peep-from-fox-news/
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/c5pmnmz
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Interview with Paul McCartney and other celebrities on huffingtonpost

2013-05-12 Thread card

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merlin  wrote:
>
>
>
> Interview with Paul McCartney
> and other celebrities
>
> on huffingtonpost.com >>>
>
>
> Congressman Mark Sanford Opens Up About Meditation Practice ...
> ___.
>
>
>
>
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/10/congressman-mark-sanford-_n_324\
8161.html?utm_hp_ref=healthy-living#slide=812601
>
> ***.***
> *
> *
>

Hikipedia




[FairfieldLife] Re: YAHWEH NUKED US BEFORE TRUMAN--Sasha Lessin, Ph.D. (Anthropology, UCLA) Web Radi

2013-05-12 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
> >
> > ...in a science-savvy world, these religious sci-fi concepts 
> > are to be expected. Believing that Marduk is an extraterrestrial 
> > is no stranger than believing in astrology or crystal healing.
> 
> I think you are taking this past where I was going initially. 

True, but with reason. It was *he* who took it further,
and you who failed to be able to follow where he took it. 

> I was talking about the particular post made by GN which cited 
> a particularly wild assertion by Sasha Lessin regarding the 
> Earth having been nuked by aliens a very long time ago. In 
> case you have lost the initial guffaw-inspired reaction you 
> no doubt had when first reading this little gem let me refresh 
> your memory:
> 
> "3,663 years ago, Yahweh, known then as Enlil, a 9 -12 foot 
> fully Homo Sapien ET from the Planet Nibiru, 49 astronomical 
> units from Earth, ordered nuclear attacks on the people and 
> cities south of the (thence) Dead Sea in Canaan and on a 
> spaceport he ran in Sinai. The fallout immediately blew over
> and killed most of the Sumerian Earthlings--those loyal to 
> Yahweh."
> 
> If you would like to continue to defend statements like these 
> as perfectly in line with other beliefs that run rampant among 
> the human race, be my guest. 

Salyavin was doing no such thing. He was EQUATING 
beliefs like this with beliefs in things like astrology
or crystal healing, saying (if I got what he was saying)
that these beliefs are in the SAME ballpark of crazy as
aliens nuking the planet 3,663 years ago. 

I agree with him. And that's not even venturing into
the realm of belief in things like a guy turning water
into wine or rising from the dead or Ganesha leaping
from mainland India to Ceylon or beings like Krishna,
Rama, and Sita ever having existed. Or that the direction 
a building faces affects you, or that by closing your
eyes and mentally repeating a Magic Word you've been
given, you can personally experience what Einstein
referred to as the Unified Field. 

ALL of these beliefs are fuckin' BONKERS, seen from the
point of view of someone -- anyone -- who has not spent
years or decades being indoctrinated into them. 

What I think you may have missed in Salyavin's post is
that he was making the case that the *extremity* of
this particular set of beliefs can be seen as a metaphor
for the extremity of ALL religious/spiritual beliefs,
if you just step back from them and view them critically,
devoid of pre-programmed acceptance. 

> But all I'm saying is that I am pretty sure that anyone 
> who would believe this particular theory isn't likely to 
> be having afternoon tea at my abode; I prefer not to hang 
> out with crazies.

Yet on this forum you "hang out" with people whose beliefs
are *just* as ludicrous, when seen without the overlay of
decades of indoctrination. You would be hanging out with
people just as crazy (from my point of view) if you hung
out with fundamentalist Christians, or orthodox Jews, or
Hindus or even some Southeast Asian flavors of Buddhists. 

Once they have bought into a belief system, they *lose
the ability to look at their beliefs critically, the way
someone who does not buy into them would*. The person
who came up with this jiveass horseshit about aliens
nuking the Middle East three millennia ago CANNOT SEE
HOW ANYONE WOULD CONSIDER IT WEIRD OR CRAZY. 

Neither can anyone equally invested in *their* particular
belief system. They are so *used to* and *immersed in*
the belief system as to no longer be able to understand
how anyone else could not be. 

Now think about Fairfield Life. People regularly post the
same old propaganda here about "the latest TM research," 
and are AMAZED that people aren't creaming their jeans 
over it the way that they are. People post exhortations 
to "come back to the domes" to save the world, completely
unaware that to many of us, the idea of them bouncing on
their collective butts twice a day as a mechanism *for*
saving the world is JUST as insane as Yahweh nuking the 
Middle East three millennia ago. 

One *picks* the crazies one hangs out with, that's all. 





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: NBC Mae Culpa

2013-05-12 Thread Share Long
Richard, I'm beginning to wonder if it isn't really all about the BUS that 
everyone and everything is being thrown under (-:





 From: Richard J. Williams 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 9:25 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: NBC Mae Culpa
 


  
> > Where is the outrage over Obama's coverup of 
>> Benghazi which we *know* is indeed the case?
> >
Alex Stanley: 
> 13 Benghazis That Occurred on Bush's Watch 
> Without a Peep from Fox News
>
Maybe it's all about the cover-up? Go figure.

'Throw Hillary under the bus?'
http://tinyurl.com/bvfwgd9
> 
> http://thedailybanter.com/2013/05/13-benghazis-that-occurred-on-bushs-watch-without-a-peep-from-fox-news/
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/c5pmnmz
>


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: YAHWEH NUKED US BEFORE TRUMAN--Sasha Lessin, Ph.D. (Anthropology, UCLA) Web Radi

2013-05-12 Thread Michael Jackson
People will believe all kinds of stuff - a while back, that Drunvalo 
Melchizedek guy was putting his stamp of approval on this water that supposedly 
was energized by some sufi guys or some such, and the claim for the water was 
that it would not only heal people of their ailments, but if poured into a 
lake, pond or stream would clear the water of any and all pollution. People in 
California were paying $400.00 a pint for this stuff. What bullshit.





 From: turquoiseb 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 10:43 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: YAHWEH NUKED US BEFORE TRUMAN--Sasha Lessin, Ph.D. 
(Anthropology, UCLA) Web Radi
 


  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
> >
> > ...in a science-savvy world, these religious sci-fi concepts 
> > are to be expected. Believing that Marduk is an extraterrestrial 
> > is no stranger than believing in astrology or crystal healing.
> 
> I think you are taking this past where I was going initially. 

True, but with reason. It was *he* who took it further,
and you who failed to be able to follow where he took it. 

> I was talking about the particular post made by GN which cited 
> a particularly wild assertion by Sasha Lessin regarding the 
> Earth having been nuked by aliens a very long time ago. In 
> case you have lost the initial guffaw-inspired reaction you 
> no doubt had when first reading this little gem let me refresh 
> your memory:
> 
> "3,663 years ago, Yahweh, known then as Enlil, a 9 -12 foot 
> fully Homo Sapien ET from the Planet Nibiru, 49 astronomical 
> units from Earth, ordered nuclear attacks on the people and 
> cities south of the (thence) Dead Sea in Canaan and on a 
> spaceport he ran in Sinai. The fallout immediately blew over
> and killed most of the Sumerian Earthlings--those loyal to 
> Yahweh."
> 
> If you would like to continue to defend statements like these 
> as perfectly in line with other beliefs that run rampant among 
> the human race, be my guest. 

Salyavin was doing no such thing. He was EQUATING 
beliefs like this with beliefs in things like astrology
or crystal healing, saying (if I got what he was saying)
that these beliefs are in the SAME ballpark of crazy as
aliens nuking the planet 3,663 years ago. 

I agree with him. And that's not even venturing into
the realm of belief in things like a guy turning water
into wine or rising from the dead or Ganesha leaping
from mainland India to Ceylon or beings like Krishna,
Rama, and Sita ever having existed. Or that the direction 
a building faces affects you, or that by closing your
eyes and mentally repeating a Magic Word you've been
given, you can personally experience what Einstein
referred to as the Unified Field. 

ALL of these beliefs are fuckin' BONKERS, seen from the
point of view of someone -- anyone -- who has not spent
years or decades being indoctrinated into them. 

What I think you may have missed in Salyavin's post is
that he was making the case that the *extremity* of
this particular set of beliefs can be seen as a metaphor
for the extremity of ALL religious/spiritual beliefs,
if you just step back from them and view them critically,
devoid of pre-programmed acceptance. 

> But all I'm saying is that I am pretty sure that anyone 
> who would believe this particular theory isn't likely to 
> be having afternoon tea at my abode; I prefer not to hang 
> out with crazies.

Yet on this forum you "hang out" with people whose beliefs
are *just* as ludicrous, when seen without the overlay of
decades of indoctrination. You would be hanging out with
people just as crazy (from my point of view) if you hung
out with fundamentalist Christians, or orthodox Jews, or
Hindus or even some Southeast Asian flavors of Buddhists. 

Once they have bought into a belief system, they *lose
the ability to look at their beliefs critically, the way
someone who does not buy into them would*. The person
who came up with this jiveass horseshit about aliens
nuking the Middle East three millennia ago CANNOT SEE
HOW ANYONE WOULD CONSIDER IT WEIRD OR CRAZY. 

Neither can anyone equally invested in *their* particular
belief system. They are so *used to* and *immersed in*
the belief system as to no longer be able to understand
how anyone else could not be. 

Now think about Fairfield Life. People regularly post the
same old propaganda here about "the latest TM research," 
and are AMAZED that people aren't creaming their jeans 
over it the way that they are. People post exhortations 
to "come back to the domes" to save the world, completely
unaware that to many of us, the idea of them bouncing on
their collective butts twice a day as a mechanism *for*
saving the world is JUST as insane as Yahweh nuking the 
Middle East three millennia ago. 

One *picks* the crazies one hangs out with, that's all. 


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: YAHWEH NUKED US BEFORE TRUMAN--Sasha Lessin, Ph.D. (Anthropology, UCLA) Web Radi

2013-05-12 Thread doctordumbass
Best example I saw was on Maui, in a small town, in a local joint called 
Squeaky's, painted turquoise on the outside. Inside very modest. TV in the 
corner, featuring that endless infomercial with Mick and Mimi (and Fred and 
Wilma, no joke...), sermonizing the wonders of The Magic Bullet. I nearly 
genuflected.  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> People will believe all kinds of stuff - a while back, that Drunvalo 
> Melchizedek guy was putting his stamp of approval on this water that 
> supposedly was energized by some sufi guys or some such, and the claim for 
> the water was that it would not only heal people of their ailments, but if 
> poured into a lake, pond or stream would clear the water of any and all 
> pollution. People in California were paying $400.00 a pint for this stuff. 
> What bullshit.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: turquoiseb 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 10:43 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: YAHWEH NUKED US BEFORE TRUMAN--Sasha Lessin, 
> Ph.D. (Anthropology, UCLA) Web Radi
>  
> 
> 
>   
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > ...in a science-savvy world, these religious sci-fi concepts 
> > > are to be expected. Believing that Marduk is an extraterrestrial 
> > > is no stranger than believing in astrology or crystal healing.
> > 
> > I think you are taking this past where I was going initially. 
> 
> True, but with reason. It was *he* who took it further,
> and you who failed to be able to follow where he took it. 
> 
> > I was talking about the particular post made by GN which cited 
> > a particularly wild assertion by Sasha Lessin regarding the 
> > Earth having been nuked by aliens a very long time ago. In 
> > case you have lost the initial guffaw-inspired reaction you 
> > no doubt had when first reading this little gem let me refresh 
> > your memory:
> > 
> > "3,663 years ago, Yahweh, known then as Enlil, a 9 -12 foot 
> > fully Homo Sapien ET from the Planet Nibiru, 49 astronomical 
> > units from Earth, ordered nuclear attacks on the people and 
> > cities south of the (thence) Dead Sea in Canaan and on a 
> > spaceport he ran in Sinai. The fallout immediately blew over
> > and killed most of the Sumerian Earthlings--those loyal to 
> > Yahweh."
> > 
> > If you would like to continue to defend statements like these 
> > as perfectly in line with other beliefs that run rampant among 
> > the human race, be my guest. 
> 
> Salyavin was doing no such thing. He was EQUATING 
> beliefs like this with beliefs in things like astrology
> or crystal healing, saying (if I got what he was saying)
> that these beliefs are in the SAME ballpark of crazy as
> aliens nuking the planet 3,663 years ago. 
> 
> I agree with him. And that's not even venturing into
> the realm of belief in things like a guy turning water
> into wine or rising from the dead or Ganesha leaping
> from mainland India to Ceylon or beings like Krishna,
> Rama, and Sita ever having existed. Or that the direction 
> a building faces affects you, or that by closing your
> eyes and mentally repeating a Magic Word you've been
> given, you can personally experience what Einstein
> referred to as the Unified Field. 
> 
> ALL of these beliefs are fuckin' BONKERS, seen from the
> point of view of someone -- anyone -- who has not spent
> years or decades being indoctrinated into them. 
> 
> What I think you may have missed in Salyavin's post is
> that he was making the case that the *extremity* of
> this particular set of beliefs can be seen as a metaphor
> for the extremity of ALL religious/spiritual beliefs,
> if you just step back from them and view them critically,
> devoid of pre-programmed acceptance. 
> 
> > But all I'm saying is that I am pretty sure that anyone 
> > who would believe this particular theory isn't likely to 
> > be having afternoon tea at my abode; I prefer not to hang 
> > out with crazies.
> 
> Yet on this forum you "hang out" with people whose beliefs
> are *just* as ludicrous, when seen without the overlay of
> decades of indoctrination. You would be hanging out with
> people just as crazy (from my point of view) if you hung
> out with fundamentalist Christians, or orthodox Jews, or
> Hindus or even some Southeast Asian flavors of Buddhists. 
> 
> Once they have bought into a belief system, they *lose
> the ability to look at their beliefs critically, the way
> someone who does not buy into them would*. The person
> who came up with this jiveass horseshit about aliens
> nuking the Middle East three millennia ago CANNOT SEE
> HOW ANYONE WOULD CONSIDER IT WEIRD OR CRAZY. 
> 
> Neither can anyone equally invested in *their* particular
> belief system. They are so *used to* and *immersed in*
> the belief system as to no longer be able to understand
> how anyone else could not be. 
> 
> Now think about Fairfi

[FairfieldLife] Re: YAHWEH NUKED US BEFORE TRUMAN--Sasha Lessin, Ph.D. (Anthropology, UCLA) Web Radi

2013-05-12 Thread doctordumbass
I'm sorry, could you please repeat that?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98lbxI2QY5U

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > ...in a science-savvy world, these religious sci-fi concepts 
> > > are to be expected. Believing that Marduk is an extraterrestrial 
> > > is no stranger than believing in astrology or crystal healing.
> > 
> > I think you are taking this past where I was going initially. 
> 
> True, but with reason. It was *he* who took it further,
> and you who failed to be able to follow where he took it. 
> 
> > I was talking about the particular post made by GN which cited 
> > a particularly wild assertion by Sasha Lessin regarding the 
> > Earth having been nuked by aliens a very long time ago. In 
> > case you have lost the initial guffaw-inspired reaction you 
> > no doubt had when first reading this little gem let me refresh 
> > your memory:
> > 
> > "3,663 years ago, Yahweh, known then as Enlil, a 9 -12 foot 
> > fully Homo Sapien ET from the Planet Nibiru, 49 astronomical 
> > units from Earth, ordered nuclear attacks on the people and 
> > cities south of the (thence) Dead Sea in Canaan and on a 
> > spaceport he ran in Sinai. The fallout immediately blew over
> > and killed most of the Sumerian Earthlings--those loyal to 
> > Yahweh."
> > 
> > If you would like to continue to defend statements like these 
> > as perfectly in line with other beliefs that run rampant among 
> > the human race, be my guest. 
> 
> Salyavin was doing no such thing. He was EQUATING 
> beliefs like this with beliefs in things like astrology
> or crystal healing, saying (if I got what he was saying)
> that these beliefs are in the SAME ballpark of crazy as
> aliens nuking the planet 3,663 years ago. 
> 
> I agree with him. And that's not even venturing into
> the realm of belief in things like a guy turning water
> into wine or rising from the dead or Ganesha leaping
> from mainland India to Ceylon or beings like Krishna,
> Rama, and Sita ever having existed. Or that the direction 
> a building faces affects you, or that by closing your
> eyes and mentally repeating a Magic Word you've been
> given, you can personally experience what Einstein
> referred to as the Unified Field. 
> 
> ALL of these beliefs are fuckin' BONKERS, seen from the
> point of view of someone -- anyone -- who has not spent
> years or decades being indoctrinated into them. 
> 
> What I think you may have missed in Salyavin's post is
> that he was making the case that the *extremity* of
> this particular set of beliefs can be seen as a metaphor
> for the extremity of ALL religious/spiritual beliefs,
> if you just step back from them and view them critically,
> devoid of pre-programmed acceptance. 
> 
> > But all I'm saying is that I am pretty sure that anyone 
> > who would believe this particular theory isn't likely to 
> > be having afternoon tea at my abode; I prefer not to hang 
> > out with crazies.
> 
> Yet on this forum you "hang out" with people whose beliefs
> are *just* as ludicrous, when seen without the overlay of
> decades of indoctrination. You would be hanging out with
> people just as crazy (from my point of view) if you hung
> out with fundamentalist Christians, or orthodox Jews, or
> Hindus or even some Southeast Asian flavors of Buddhists. 
> 
> Once they have bought into a belief system, they *lose
> the ability to look at their beliefs critically, the way
> someone who does not buy into them would*. The person
> who came up with this jiveass horseshit about aliens
> nuking the Middle East three millennia ago CANNOT SEE
> HOW ANYONE WOULD CONSIDER IT WEIRD OR CRAZY. 
> 
> Neither can anyone equally invested in *their* particular
> belief system. They are so *used to* and *immersed in*
> the belief system as to no longer be able to understand
> how anyone else could not be. 
> 
> Now think about Fairfield Life. People regularly post the
> same old propaganda here about "the latest TM research," 
> and are AMAZED that people aren't creaming their jeans 
> over it the way that they are. People post exhortations 
> to "come back to the domes" to save the world, completely
> unaware that to many of us, the idea of them bouncing on
> their collective butts twice a day as a mechanism *for*
> saving the world is JUST as insane as Yahweh nuking the 
> Middle East three millennia ago. 
> 
> One *picks* the crazies one hangs out with, that's all.
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: YAHWEH NUKED US BEFORE TRUMAN--Sasha Lessin, Ph.D. (Anthropology, UCLA) Web Radi

2013-05-12 Thread Ann


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > ...in a science-savvy world, these religious sci-fi concepts 
> > > are to be expected. Believing that Marduk is an extraterrestrial 
> > > is no stranger than believing in astrology or crystal healing.
> > 
> > I think you are taking this past where I was going initially. 
> 
> True, but with reason. It was *he* who took it further,
> and you who failed to be able to follow where he took it. 
> 
> > I was talking about the particular post made by GN which cited 
> > a particularly wild assertion by Sasha Lessin regarding the 
> > Earth having been nuked by aliens a very long time ago. In 
> > case you have lost the initial guffaw-inspired reaction you 
> > no doubt had when first reading this little gem let me refresh 
> > your memory:
> > 
> > "3,663 years ago, Yahweh, known then as Enlil, a 9 -12 foot 
> > fully Homo Sapien ET from the Planet Nibiru, 49 astronomical 
> > units from Earth, ordered nuclear attacks on the people and 
> > cities south of the (thence) Dead Sea in Canaan and on a 
> > spaceport he ran in Sinai. The fallout immediately blew over
> > and killed most of the Sumerian Earthlings--those loyal to 
> > Yahweh."
> > 
> > If you would like to continue to defend statements like these 
> > as perfectly in line with other beliefs that run rampant among 
> > the human race, be my guest. 
> 
> Salyavin was doing no such thing. He was EQUATING 
> beliefs like this with beliefs in things like astrology
> or crystal healing, saying (if I got what he was saying)
> that these beliefs are in the SAME ballpark of crazy as
> aliens nuking the planet 3,663 years ago. 

I know exactly what he was saying, I just didn't feel like getting into a big 
discussion about it. I have already discussed this subject of beliefs here, 
earlier. I was more interested in allowing a pretty good rip snorter out of me 
based on having read that extremely humorous and outlandish single post about 
Yahweh (whoever that is). I'm not arguing here, oh positive one, just picking a 
moment in time to laugh at something. But carry on waxing, as you are wont to 
do.
> 
> I agree with him. And that's not even venturing into
> the realm of belief in things like a guy turning water
> into wine or rising from the dead or Ganesha leaping
> from mainland India to Ceylon or beings like Krishna,
> Rama, and Sita ever having existed. Or that the direction 
> a building faces affects you, or that by closing your
> eyes and mentally repeating a Magic Word you've been
> given, you can personally experience what Einstein
> referred to as the Unified Field. 
> 
> ALL of these beliefs are fuckin' BONKERS, seen from the
> point of view of someone -- anyone -- who has not spent
> years or decades being indoctrinated into them. 

So, tell me something I don't know.
> 
> What I think you may have missed in Salyavin's post is
> that he was making the case that the *extremity* of
> this particular set of beliefs can be seen as a metaphor
> for the extremity of ALL religious/spiritual beliefs,
> if you just step back from them and view them critically,
> devoid of pre-programmed acceptance. 

Nope, I saw it, just not in the mood for some big discussion about beliefs and 
which ones are more valid than others. 
> 
> > But all I'm saying is that I am pretty sure that anyone 
> > who would believe this particular theory isn't likely to 
> > be having afternoon tea at my abode; I prefer not to hang 
> > out with crazies.
> 
> Yet on this forum you "hang out" with people whose beliefs
> are *just* as ludicrous, when seen without the overlay of
> decades of indoctrination.

Ah, but I'm not serving them tea in my house, big difference.

> You would be hanging out with
> people just as crazy (from my point of view) if you hung
> out with fundamentalist Christians, or orthodox Jews, or
> Hindus or even some Southeast Asian flavors of Buddhists. 

Could be. I tend to not hang out with anything that includes "fundamentalist" 
or "orthodox" in the description. It only leads to me turning into a bigger 
jerk than I already am. 
> 
> Once they have bought into a belief system, they *lose
> the ability to look at their beliefs critically, the way
> someone who does not buy into them would*. The person
> who came up with this jiveass horseshit about aliens
> nuking the Middle East three millennia ago CANNOT SEE
> HOW ANYONE WOULD CONSIDER IT WEIRD OR CRAZY. 

How are you so sure? I think people can change their minds about their rigid 
stances. I mean, take a look at half the people here who seem to denigrate the 
Movement or TM or MMY; they didn't feel the way they do about TM 10 or 15 or 25 
years ago. And I must say, that I find viewpoints, beliefs like the one put 
forward by Sasha, as more hilarious and eyebrow raising in an entertaining way. 
I certainly don't g

[FairfieldLife] Re: YAHWEH NUKED US BEFORE TRUMAN--Sasha Lessin, Ph.D. (Anthropology, UCLA) Web Radi

2013-05-12 Thread salyavin808


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > Surely to God no one believes either the author or that GN could 
> > > > > possibly have posted this with a straight face.
> > > > 
> > > > Are you kidding? There's a whole sub-culture of evolving new
> > > > age guff like this. *Millions* believe it. I know perfectly
> > > > sane, intelligent, successful people who believe mankind is 
> > > > in telepathic communication with alien beings at the centre 
> > > > of the galaxy.
> > > 
> > > If it was me I would amend that to "...perfectly successful people who 
> > > believe mankind is..."
> > 
> > Nope. Are all christians, muslims insane because they don't apply
> > logic to their view of the world? Some would say yes, I think that
> > in an absence of structured and tested knowledge about the world
> > all sorts of nonsense can creep in and be taken as fact. 
> > 
> > And in a science-savvy world, these religious sci-fi concepts are
> > to be expected. Believing that Marduk is an extraterrestrial is no 
> > stranger than believing in astrology or crystal healing.
> 
> I think you are taking this past where I was going initially. I was talking 
> about the particular  post made by GN which cited a particularly wild 
> assertion by Sasha Lessin regarding the Earth having been nuked by aliens a 
> very long time ago. In case you have lost the initial guffaw-inspired 
> reaction you no doubt had when first reading this little gem let me refresh 
> your memory:
> 
>  "3,663 years ago, Yahweh, known then as Enlil, a 9 -12 foot fully Homo
> Sapien ET from the Planet Nibiru, 49 astronomical units from Earth, ordered
> nuclear attacks on the people and cities south of the (thence) Dead Sea in
> Canaan and on a spaceport he ran in Sinai. The fallout immediately blew over
> and killed most of the Sumerian Earthlings--those loyal to Yahweh."
> 
> If you would like to continue to defend statements like these as perfectly in 
> line with other beliefs that run rampant among the human race, be my guest. 
> But all I'm saying is that I am pretty sure that anyone who would believe 
> this particular theory isn't likely to be having afternoon tea at my abode; I 
> prefer not to hang out with crazies.

Sure it makes me laugh but no more than Jehovas witnesses, 
scientology or spoon bending. It's all about whether you have an
evidence based view of the world or a belief based one. 

But do you think it's somehow different from biblical beliefs 
about God smiting the caananites and the fiery chariot in Ezekiel?
The old testament is where the new age get their inspiration. The Xtians weird 
beliefs seem normal simply because they've been with
us for longer and have become a tradition. And don't get me started
on flying machines in the Vedas, I'm sure Nabby will tell you that's
all proof of extraterrestrials.

If all ideas were fresh, which would you think crazy? Afternoon
tea might be a lonely experience for you. Me, I don't care what
people believe as long as it doesn't hurt anyone, and my new age
friends who believe in all sorts of channeling and weird shit are
no different from my TM friends or my Christian ones, as long as 
they don't try and convert me they'll get scones and jam on my
best china for sure.






[FairfieldLife] Re: YAHWEH NUKED US BEFORE TRUMAN--Sasha Lessin, Ph.D. (Anthropology, UCLA) Web Radi

2013-05-12 Thread salyavin808


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Surely to God no one believes either the author or that GN could 
> > > > > > possibly have posted this with a straight face.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Are you kidding? There's a whole sub-culture of evolving new
> > > > > age guff like this. *Millions* believe it. I know perfectly
> > > > > sane, intelligent, successful people who believe mankind is 
> > > > > in telepathic communication with alien beings at the centre 
> > > > > of the galaxy.
> > > > 
> > > > If it was me I would amend that to "...perfectly successful people who 
> > > > believe mankind is..."
> > > 
> > > Nope. Are all christians, muslims insane because they don't apply
> > > logic to their view of the world? Some would say yes, I think that
> > > in an absence of structured and tested knowledge about the world
> > > all sorts of nonsense can creep in and be taken as fact. 
> > > 
> > > And in a science-savvy world, these religious sci-fi concepts are
> > > to be expected. Believing that Marduk is an extraterrestrial is no 
> > > stranger than believing in astrology or crystal healing.
> > 
> > I think you are taking this past where I was going initially. I was talking 
> > about the particular  post made by GN which cited a particularly wild 
> > assertion by Sasha Lessin regarding the Earth having been nuked by aliens a 
> > very long time ago. In case you have lost the initial guffaw-inspired 
> > reaction you no doubt had when first reading this little gem let me refresh 
> > your memory:
> > 
> >  "3,663 years ago, Yahweh, known then as Enlil, a 9 -12 foot fully Homo
> > Sapien ET from the Planet Nibiru, 49 astronomical units from Earth, ordered
> > nuclear attacks on the people and cities south of the (thence) Dead Sea in
> > Canaan and on a spaceport he ran in Sinai. The fallout immediately blew over
> > and killed most of the Sumerian Earthlings--those loyal to Yahweh."
> > 
> > If you would like to continue to defend statements like these as perfectly 
> > in line with other beliefs that run rampant among the human race, be my 
> > guest. But all I'm saying is that I am pretty sure that anyone who would 
> > believe this particular theory isn't likely to be having afternoon tea at 
> > my abode; I prefer not to hang out with crazies.
> 
> Sure it makes me laugh but no more than Jehovas witnesses, 
> scientology or spoon bending. It's all about whether you have an
> evidence based view of the world or a belief based one. 

Amazingly, some people I know even believe in an afterlife
that sort of just exists somewhere we can't see, where they 
meet with dead relatives and have a super time lying
on clouds of billowing bliss. Some even claimed to have been
there before they died and came back to report on it in best
selling books! Yup, the crazies are out in force these days...

> 
> But do you think it's somehow different from biblical beliefs 
> about God smiting the caananites and the fiery chariot in Ezekiel?
> The old testament is where the new age get their inspiration. The Xtians 
> weird beliefs seem normal simply because they've been with
> us for longer and have become a tradition. And don't get me started
> on flying machines in the Vedas, I'm sure Nabby will tell you that's
> all proof of extraterrestrials.
> 
> If all ideas were fresh, which would you think crazy? Afternoon
> tea might be a lonely experience for you. Me, I don't care what
> people believe as long as it doesn't hurt anyone, and my new age
> friends who believe in all sorts of channeling and weird shit are
> no different from my TM friends or my Christian ones, as long as 
> they don't try and convert me they'll get scones and jam on my
> best china for sure.
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th

2013-05-12 Thread Alex Stanley




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jason"  wrote:
>
> 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > ---  "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > If I were in FF I would be sure to be there today - no lie.
> > > > 
> > > ---  "Alex Stanley"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ugh... I am in FF, and you couldn't pay me to go.
> > > >
> > > >
> > ---  "salyavin808"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Are you more of a steak and chips man Alex?
> > >
> > >
> ---  "Alex Stanley"  wrote:
> 
> > Grass-fed steak, and replace the chips with something non-starchy. And, 
> > ditch the life-abnegating, fundie Hindu dogma as well.
> >
> 
> Replace the steak with fish, it's better for you.  

I eat only one meat/poultry/fish/eggs meal per day, eaten between mid morning 
and early afternoon, and I alternate with two days of fish/eggs/poultry 
followed by one day pastured beef or lamb. The dairy in my diet is Radiance 
Dairy cream in my coffee, one little cup of full fat fruit yogurt 5-6 days a 
week, and a little butter. The bulk of my diet is non-starchy plant foods, much 
of it raw. I eat my last meal of the day, usually carrot sticks and guacamole, 
at 5pm, so that I sleep on an empty stomach and basically fast for 12 hours 
every day.

Personally, I don't care what any mainstream dietary dogma or "conventional 
wisdom" says is healthy. I spent decades believing that kind of stuff while 
completely ignoring my body telling me that it was all wrong for my physiology. 
With all my experience from eating wrong to eating right, I am now acutely 
aware of my metabolism and how it is affected by diet. I experience two types 
of hunger: caloric hunger and nutrient hunger. I eat the red meat that I do 
because it provides a deep sense of nutrient satiety that no other food 
provides. I avoid starch because I'm carbohydrate sensitive, and the glucose 
load spikes and crashes my blood sugar, making me tired and lethargic and 
ramping up caloric hunger to a level that drives overeating. My diet is all 
about high quality, nutrient dense foods that give the body what it needs while 
maintaining a state of endocrine serenity. 



[FairfieldLife] Re: YAHWEH NUKED US BEFORE TRUMAN--Sasha Lessin, Ph.D. (Anthropology, UCLA) Web Radi

2013-05-12 Thread Jason


> >
> > ---  "salyavin808"  wrote:
> > >
> > > ...in a science-savvy world, these religious sci-fi concepts 
> > > are to be expected. Believing that Marduk is an 
> > > extraterrestrial 
> > > is no stranger than believing in astrology or crystal healing.
> > 
> ---  "Ann"  wrote:
> >
> > I think you are taking this past where I was going initially. 
> >
---  turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> True, but with reason. It was *he* who took it further,
> and you who failed to be able to follow where he took it. 
> 
> > I was talking about the particular post made by GN which cited 
> > a particularly wild assertion by Sasha Lessin regarding the 
> > Earth having been nuked by aliens a very long time ago. In 
> > case you have lost the initial guffaw-inspired reaction you 
> > no doubt had when first reading this little gem let me refresh 
> > your memory:
> > 
> > "3,663 years ago, Yahweh, known then as Enlil, a 9 -12 foot 
> > fully Homo Sapien ET from the Planet Nibiru, 49 astronomical 
> > units from Earth, ordered nuclear attacks on the people and 
> > cities south of the (thence) Dead Sea in Canaan and on a 
> > spaceport he ran in Sinai. The fallout immediately blew over
> > and killed most of the Sumerian Earthlings--those loyal to 
> > Yahweh."
> > 
> > If you would like to continue to defend statements like these 
> > as perfectly in line with other beliefs that run rampant among 
> > the human race, be my guest. 
> >
--- turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> Salyavin was doing no such thing. He was EQUATING 
> beliefs like this with beliefs in things like astrology
> or crystal healing, saying (if I got what he was saying)
> that these beliefs are in the SAME ballpark of crazy as
> aliens nuking the planet 3,663 years ago. 
> 
> I agree with him. And that's not even venturing into
> the realm of belief in things like a guy turning water
> into wine or rising from the dead or Ganesha leaping
> from mainland India to Ceylon or beings like Krishna,
> Rama, and Sita ever having existed. Or that the direction 
> a building faces affects you, or that by closing your
> eyes and mentally repeating a Magic Word you've been
> given, you can personally experience what Einstein
> referred to as the Unified Field. 
> 
> ALL of these beliefs are fuckin' BONKERS, seen from the
> point of view of someone -- anyone -- who has not spent
> years or decades being indoctrinated into them. 
> 
> What I think you may have missed in Salyavin's post is
> that he was making the case that the *extremity* of
> this particular set of beliefs can be seen as a metaphor
> for the extremity of ALL religious/spiritual beliefs,
> if you just step back from them and view them critically,
> devoid of pre-programmed acceptance. 
> 
> > But all I'm saying is that I am pretty sure that anyone 
> > who would believe this particular theory isn't likely to 
> > be having afternoon tea at my abode; I prefer not to hang 
> > out with crazies.
> >
---  turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> Yet on this forum you "hang out" with people whose beliefs
> are *just* as ludicrous, when seen without the overlay of
> decades of indoctrination. You would be hanging out with
> people just as crazy (from my point of view) if you hung
> out with fundamentalist Christians, or orthodox Jews, or
> Hindus or even some Southeast Asian flavors of Buddhists. 
> 
> Once they have bought into a belief system, they *lose
> the ability to look at their beliefs critically, the way
> someone who does not buy into them would*. The person
> who came up with this jiveass horseshit about aliens
> nuking the Middle East three millennia ago CANNOT SEE
> HOW ANYONE WOULD CONSIDER IT WEIRD OR CRAZY. 
> 
> Neither can anyone equally invested in *their* particular
> belief system. They are so *used to* and *immersed in*
> the belief system as to no longer be able to understand
> how anyone else could not be. 
> 
> Now think about Fairfield Life. People regularly post the
> same old propaganda here about "the latest TM research," 
> and are AMAZED that people aren't creaming their jeans 
> over it the way that they are. People post exhortations 
> to "come back to the domes" to save the world, completely
> unaware that to many of us, the idea of them bouncing on
> their collective butts twice a day as a mechanism *for*
> saving the world is JUST as insane as Yahweh nuking the 
> Middle East three millennia ago. 
> 
> One *picks* the crazies one hangs out with, that's all.
>

For any advanced alien visiting earth, nukes would be 
extremely primitive devices.  These 'ancient aliens' 
theorists are a bunch of morons who have practicaly no 
understanding of science and the nature of technology.

Technology is going to progress much faster in the next 30 
years than it did in the past 300 years.  The progress is 
accelerating.

Artificial intelligence is evolving a thousand times faster 
than biological evolution.  If we can't beat them, we have 
to join them.  By the time we get to other planets, we would 
be more machine t

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: NBC Mae Culpa

2013-05-12 Thread Mike Dixon
There never was a demonstration outside the consulate at Benghazi. It was a 
terrorist attack from the get-go. The ambassador had been asking for more 
security, Al Qaeda flags flying all over Benghazi and was repeatedly denied. 
One attack had already been made earlier and the British shut down their 
consulate there due to the dangerous situation. The CIA knew it was a terrorist 
attack immediately but the White House and State Department wanted any any 
mention of terrorism scrubbed from the report. Why? The attack lasted about 
eight hours and help was only two to three hours away and those in a position 
to send help were ordered to stand down. Why? It may have been too late to send 
help to save the lives of the ambassador and other guy, but not the former 
SEALs. They were left hanging like balls on a dog. No man left behind? I 
guarantee there is a cover-up for dereliction of duty. A famous quote made in 
the 2008 campaign, "who do you want in the W.H. to
 take a call at three in the morning". Definitely not Obama or Hillary!

 


 From: Richard J. Williams 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 7:23 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: NBC Mae Culpa
  
   
 


raunchydog: 
> "So...yeah. Let's have even more hearings about Benghazi. 
> This time, let's focus on the real question: What did the
> Republicans know, and when did they know it?"
>
> "The confusion derives from the fact that the 
> militants "swam in the river" (so to speak) 
> created by peaceful protesters, who had 
> gathered to decry that ludicrous anti-Mohammed 
> video, Innocence of Muslims."
>
http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2013/05/benghazi-what-did-republicans-know-and.html
 

>From what I've read, there was no demonstration
in front of the Benghazi consulate. Go figure.

"In addition to getting to the bottom of what the 
administration knew about Benghazi, and when they 
knew it, Congress needs get to the bottom of the 
coverup, which is apparently ongoing." 

'A Benghazi bombshell'
Washington Post:
http://tinyurl.com/btxpbg3

   
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: YAHWEH NUKED US BEFORE TRUMAN--Sasha Lessin, Ph.D. (Anthropology, UCLA) Web Radi

2013-05-12 Thread Richard J. Williams

  turquoiseb:
> One *picks* the crazies one hangs out with, that's all.
>
"Everything that can be and everything that cannot be
  exists somewhere." - Zen Master Rama

http://www.ramaquotes.com/html/other_worlds.html


  



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: YAHWEH NUKED US BEFORE TRUMAN--Sasha Lessin, Ph.D. (Anthropology, UCLA) Web Radi

2013-05-12 Thread Michael Jackson
there are flying machines in the Vedas!?!?!?! Oh. Lordy, I might have to become 
a Hindoo.





 From: salyavin808 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 12:44 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: YAHWEH NUKED US BEFORE TRUMAN--Sasha Lessin, Ph.D. 
(Anthropology, UCLA) Web Radi
 


  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > Surely to God no one believes either the author or that GN could 
> > > > > possibly have posted this with a straight face.
> > > > 
> > > > Are you kidding? There's a whole sub-culture of evolving new
> > > > age guff like this. *Millions* believe it. I know perfectly
> > > > sane, intelligent, successful people who believe mankind is 
> > > > in telepathic communication with alien beings at the centre 
> > > > of the galaxy.
> > > 
> > > If it was me I would amend that to "...perfectly successful people who 
> > > believe mankind is..."
> > 
> > Nope. Are all christians, muslims insane because they don't apply
> > logic to their view of the world? Some would say yes, I think that
> > in an absence of structured and tested knowledge about the world
> > all sorts of nonsense can creep in and be taken as fact. 
> > 
> > And in a science-savvy world, these religious sci-fi concepts are
> > to be expected. Believing that Marduk is an extraterrestrial is no 
> > stranger than believing in astrology or crystal healing.
> 
> I think you are taking this past where I was going initially. I was talking 
> about the particular  post made by GN which cited a particularly wild 
> assertion by Sasha Lessin regarding the Earth having been nuked by aliens a 
> very long time ago. In case you have lost the initial guffaw-inspired 
> reaction you no doubt had when first reading this little gem let me refresh 
> your memory:
> 
>  "3,663 years ago, Yahweh, known then as Enlil, a 9 -12 foot fully Homo
> Sapien ET from the Planet Nibiru, 49 astronomical units from Earth, ordered
> nuclear attacks on the people and cities south of the (thence) Dead Sea in
> Canaan and on a spaceport he ran in Sinai. The fallout immediately blew over
> and killed most of the Sumerian Earthlings--those loyal to Yahweh."
> 
> If you would like to continue to defend statements like these as perfectly in 
> line with other beliefs that run rampant among the human race, be my guest. 
> But all I'm saying is that I am pretty sure that anyone who would believe 
> this particular theory isn't likely to be having afternoon tea at my abode; I 
> prefer not to hang out with crazies.

Sure it makes me laugh but no more than Jehovas witnesses, 
scientology or spoon bending. It's all about whether you have an
evidence based view of the world or a belief based one. 

But do you think it's somehow different from biblical beliefs 
about God smiting the caananites and the fiery chariot in Ezekiel?
The old testament is where the new age get their inspiration. The Xtians weird 
beliefs seem normal simply because they've been with
us for longer and have become a tradition. And don't get me started
on flying machines in the Vedas, I'm sure Nabby will tell you that's
all proof of extraterrestrials.

If all ideas were fresh, which would you think crazy? Afternoon
tea might be a lonely experience for you. Me, I don't care what
people believe as long as it doesn't hurt anyone, and my new age
friends who believe in all sorts of channeling and weird shit are
no different from my TM friends or my Christian ones, as long as 
they don't try and convert me they'll get scones and jam on my
best china for sure.


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: YAHWEH NUKED US BEFORE TRUMAN--Sasha Lessin, Ph.D. (Anthropology, UCLA) Web Radi

2013-05-12 Thread salyavin808


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jason"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> > >
> > > ---  "salyavin808"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ...in a science-savvy world, these religious sci-fi concepts 
> > > > are to be expected. Believing that Marduk is an 
> > > > extraterrestrial 
> > > > is no stranger than believing in astrology or crystal healing.
> > > 
> > ---  "Ann"  wrote:
> > >
> > > I think you are taking this past where I was going initially. 
> > >
> ---  turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > True, but with reason. It was *he* who took it further,
> > and you who failed to be able to follow where he took it. 
> > 
> > > I was talking about the particular post made by GN which cited 
> > > a particularly wild assertion by Sasha Lessin regarding the 
> > > Earth having been nuked by aliens a very long time ago. In 
> > > case you have lost the initial guffaw-inspired reaction you 
> > > no doubt had when first reading this little gem let me refresh 
> > > your memory:
> > > 
> > > "3,663 years ago, Yahweh, known then as Enlil, a 9 -12 foot 
> > > fully Homo Sapien ET from the Planet Nibiru, 49 astronomical 
> > > units from Earth, ordered nuclear attacks on the people and 
> > > cities south of the (thence) Dead Sea in Canaan and on a 
> > > spaceport he ran in Sinai. The fallout immediately blew over
> > > and killed most of the Sumerian Earthlings--those loyal to 
> > > Yahweh."
> > > 
> > > If you would like to continue to defend statements like these 
> > > as perfectly in line with other beliefs that run rampant among 
> > > the human race, be my guest. 
> > >
> --- turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > Salyavin was doing no such thing. He was EQUATING 
> > beliefs like this with beliefs in things like astrology
> > or crystal healing, saying (if I got what he was saying)
> > that these beliefs are in the SAME ballpark of crazy as
> > aliens nuking the planet 3,663 years ago. 
> > 
> > I agree with him. And that's not even venturing into
> > the realm of belief in things like a guy turning water
> > into wine or rising from the dead or Ganesha leaping
> > from mainland India to Ceylon or beings like Krishna,
> > Rama, and Sita ever having existed. Or that the direction 
> > a building faces affects you, or that by closing your
> > eyes and mentally repeating a Magic Word you've been
> > given, you can personally experience what Einstein
> > referred to as the Unified Field. 
> > 
> > ALL of these beliefs are fuckin' BONKERS, seen from the
> > point of view of someone -- anyone -- who has not spent
> > years or decades being indoctrinated into them. 
> > 
> > What I think you may have missed in Salyavin's post is
> > that he was making the case that the *extremity* of
> > this particular set of beliefs can be seen as a metaphor
> > for the extremity of ALL religious/spiritual beliefs,
> > if you just step back from them and view them critically,
> > devoid of pre-programmed acceptance. 
> > 
> > > But all I'm saying is that I am pretty sure that anyone 
> > > who would believe this particular theory isn't likely to 
> > > be having afternoon tea at my abode; I prefer not to hang 
> > > out with crazies.
> > >
> ---  turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > Yet on this forum you "hang out" with people whose beliefs
> > are *just* as ludicrous, when seen without the overlay of
> > decades of indoctrination. You would be hanging out with
> > people just as crazy (from my point of view) if you hung
> > out with fundamentalist Christians, or orthodox Jews, or
> > Hindus or even some Southeast Asian flavors of Buddhists. 
> > 
> > Once they have bought into a belief system, they *lose
> > the ability to look at their beliefs critically, the way
> > someone who does not buy into them would*. The person
> > who came up with this jiveass horseshit about aliens
> > nuking the Middle East three millennia ago CANNOT SEE
> > HOW ANYONE WOULD CONSIDER IT WEIRD OR CRAZY. 
> > 
> > Neither can anyone equally invested in *their* particular
> > belief system. They are so *used to* and *immersed in*
> > the belief system as to no longer be able to understand
> > how anyone else could not be. 
> > 
> > Now think about Fairfield Life. People regularly post the
> > same old propaganda here about "the latest TM research," 
> > and are AMAZED that people aren't creaming their jeans 
> > over it the way that they are. People post exhortations 
> > to "come back to the domes" to save the world, completely
> > unaware that to many of us, the idea of them bouncing on
> > their collective butts twice a day as a mechanism *for*
> > saving the world is JUST as insane as Yahweh nuking the 
> > Middle East three millennia ago. 
> > 
> > One *picks* the crazies one hangs out with, that's all.
> >
> 
> For any advanced alien visiting earth, nukes would be 
> extremely primitive devices.  These 'ancient aliens' 
> theorists are a bunch of morons who have practicaly no 
> understanding of science and the nature of technology.
> 
> Technology is going to progress much faster in the n

[FairfieldLife] Re: YAHWEH NUKED US BEFORE TRUMAN--Sasha Lessin, Ph.D. (Anthropology, UCLA) Web Radi

2013-05-12 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > What I think you may have missed in Salyavin's post is
> > that he was making the case that the *extremity* of
> > this particular set of beliefs can be seen as a metaphor
> > for the extremity of ALL religious/spiritual beliefs,
> > if you just step back from them and view them critically,
> > devoid of pre-programmed acceptance. 
> 
> Nope, I saw it, just not in the mood for some big discussion 
> about beliefs and which ones are more valid than others. 

Ah, I understand. You prefer letting out a "pretty 
good rip snorter" to actually discussing ideas. My bad.

:-)





[FairfieldLife] Re: NBC Mae Culpa

2013-05-12 Thread Richard J. Williams


Mike Dixon:
> A famous quote made in the 2008 campaign, "who do 
> you want in the W.H. to take a call at three in
> the morning". Definitely not Obama or Hillary!
> 
Let's see, the Dems have Hillary Clinton and Joe 
Biden. The Repugs have Paul Ryan, Chris Christie, 
Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Bobby Jindal, Nikki Haley, 
Rick Perry and Rand Paul. LoL!

'Obama's Bush-league mistakes in foreign policy'
http://tinyurl.com/d4vkybf

 
> From what I've read, there was no demonstration
> in front of the Benghazi consulate. Go figure.
> 
> "In addition to getting to the bottom of what the 
> administration knew about Benghazi, and when they 
> knew it, Congress needs get to the bottom of the 
> coverup, which is apparently ongoing." 
> 
> 'A Benghazi bombshell'
> Washington Post:
> http://tinyurl.com/btxpbg3
>




[FairfieldLife] Happy Mothers Day from the Alamo Drafthouse Cinema

2013-05-12 Thread turquoiseb
This was their Mothers Day card sent to frequent customers. At least
someone in Austin has a sense of humor. Passed along to those who
believe that "Mother Divine" is the only image of motherhood out
there...  :-)

 
[https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/21287_1015147624\
6263051_1633476000_n.jpg]





[FairfieldLife] Re: YAHWEH NUKED US BEFORE TRUMAN--Sasha Lessin, Ph.D. (Anthropology, UCLA) Web Radi

2013-05-12 Thread salyavin808


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > ...in a science-savvy world, these religious sci-fi concepts 
> > > are to be expected. Believing that Marduk is an extraterrestrial 
> > > is no stranger than believing in astrology or crystal healing.
> > 
> > I think you are taking this past where I was going initially. 
> 
> True, but with reason. It was *he* who took it further,
> and you who failed to be able to follow where he took it. 
> 
> > I was talking about the particular post made by GN which cited 
> > a particularly wild assertion by Sasha Lessin regarding the 
> > Earth having been nuked by aliens a very long time ago. In 
> > case you have lost the initial guffaw-inspired reaction you 
> > no doubt had when first reading this little gem let me refresh 
> > your memory:
> > 
> > "3,663 years ago, Yahweh, known then as Enlil, a 9 -12 foot 
> > fully Homo Sapien ET from the Planet Nibiru, 49 astronomical 
> > units from Earth, ordered nuclear attacks on the people and 
> > cities south of the (thence) Dead Sea in Canaan and on a 
> > spaceport he ran in Sinai. The fallout immediately blew over
> > and killed most of the Sumerian Earthlings--those loyal to 
> > Yahweh."
> > 
> > If you would like to continue to defend statements like these 
> > as perfectly in line with other beliefs that run rampant among 
> > the human race, be my guest. 
> 
> Salyavin was doing no such thing. He was EQUATING 
> beliefs like this with beliefs in things like astrology
> or crystal healing, saying (if I got what he was saying)
> that these beliefs are in the SAME ballpark of crazy as
> aliens nuking the planet 3,663 years ago. 
> 
> I agree with him. And that's not even venturing into
> the realm of belief in things like a guy turning water
> into wine or rising from the dead or Ganesha leaping
> from mainland India to Ceylon or beings like Krishna,
> Rama, and Sita ever having existed. Or that the direction 
> a building faces affects you, or that by closing your
> eyes and mentally repeating a Magic Word you've been
> given, you can personally experience what Einstein
> referred to as the Unified Field. 
> 
> ALL of these beliefs are fuckin' BONKERS, seen from the
> point of view of someone -- anyone -- who has not spent
> years or decades being indoctrinated into them. 
> 
> What I think you may have missed in Salyavin's post is
> that he was making the case that the *extremity* of
> this particular set of beliefs can be seen as a metaphor
> for the extremity of ALL religious/spiritual beliefs,
> if you just step back from them and view them critically,
> devoid of pre-programmed acceptance. 
> 
> > But all I'm saying is that I am pretty sure that anyone 
> > who would believe this particular theory isn't likely to 
> > be having afternoon tea at my abode; I prefer not to hang 
> > out with crazies.
> 
> Yet on this forum you "hang out" with people whose beliefs
> are *just* as ludicrous, when seen without the overlay of
> decades of indoctrination. You would be hanging out with
> people just as crazy (from my point of view) if you hung
> out with fundamentalist Christians, or orthodox Jews, or
> Hindus or even some Southeast Asian flavors of Buddhists. 
> 
> Once they have bought into a belief system, they *lose
> the ability to look at their beliefs critically, the way
> someone who does not buy into them would*. The person
> who came up with this jiveass horseshit about aliens
> nuking the Middle East three millennia ago CANNOT SEE
> HOW ANYONE WOULD CONSIDER IT WEIRD OR CRAZY. 
> 
> Neither can anyone equally invested in *their* particular
> belief system. They are so *used to* and *immersed in*
> the belief system as to no longer be able to understand
> how anyone else could not be. 
> 
> Now think about Fairfield Life. People regularly post the
> same old propaganda here about "the latest TM research," 
> and are AMAZED that people aren't creaming their jeans 
> over it the way that they are. People post exhortations 
> to "come back to the domes" to save the world, completely
> unaware that to many of us, the idea of them bouncing on
> their collective butts twice a day as a mechanism *for*
> saving the world is JUST as insane as Yahweh nuking the 
> Middle East three millennia ago. 
> 
> One *picks* the crazies one hangs out with, that's all.

Hmm yes, nicely put. Tea at my place?




Re: [FairfieldLife] Happy Mothers Day from the Alamo Drafthouse Cinema

2013-05-12 Thread Bhairitu
On 05/12/2013 11:14 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
> This was their Mothers Day card sent to frequent customers. At least
> someone in Austin has a sense of humor. Passed along to those who
> believe that "Mother Divine" is the only image of motherhood out
> there...  :-)
>
>   
> [https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/21287_1015147624\
> 6263051_1633476000_n.jpg]
>
>
>
>

 From what movie?



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th

2013-05-12 Thread Bhairitu
On 05/12/2013 09:58 AM, Alex Stanley wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jason"  wrote:
>>
>
> ---  "Ann"  wrote:
>> If I were in FF I would be sure to be there today - no lie.
 ---  "Alex Stanley"  wrote:
> Ugh... I am in FF, and you couldn't pay me to go.
>
>
>>> ---  "salyavin808"  wrote:
 Are you more of a steak and chips man Alex?


>> ---  "Alex Stanley"  wrote:
>>
>>> Grass-fed steak, and replace the chips with something non-starchy. And, 
>>> ditch the life-abnegating, fundie Hindu dogma as well.
>>>
>> Replace the steak with fish, it's better for you.
> I eat only one meat/poultry/fish/eggs meal per day, eaten between mid morning 
> and early afternoon, and I alternate with two days of fish/eggs/poultry 
> followed by one day pastured beef or lamb. The dairy in my diet is Radiance 
> Dairy cream in my coffee, one little cup of full fat fruit yogurt 5-6 days a 
> week, and a little butter. The bulk of my diet is non-starchy plant foods, 
> much of it raw. I eat my last meal of the day, usually carrot sticks and 
> guacamole, at 5pm, so that I sleep on an empty stomach and basically fast for 
> 12 hours every day.
>
> Personally, I don't care what any mainstream dietary dogma or "conventional 
> wisdom" says is healthy. I spent decades believing that kind of stuff while 
> completely ignoring my body telling me that it was all wrong for my 
> physiology. With all my experience from eating wrong to eating right, I am 
> now acutely aware of my metabolism and how it is affected by diet. I 
> experience two types of hunger: caloric hunger and nutrient hunger. I eat the 
> red meat that I do because it provides a deep sense of nutrient satiety that 
> no other food provides. I avoid starch because I'm carbohydrate sensitive, 
> and the glucose load spikes and crashes my blood sugar, making me tired and 
> lethargic and ramping up caloric hunger to a level that drives overeating. My 
> diet is all about high quality, nutrient dense foods that give the body what 
> it needs while maintaining a state of endocrine serenity.
>
>

Are you a "brittle diabetic?"  My aunt who was my mother's twin sister 
and an RN always thought my mother was.  In fact my mother had a GTT and 
it had the curve and she also suffered from hypoglycemia.  Same with 
me.  I thought the term "brittle diabetic" was something my aunt made up 
but it is a real medical term. Brittle diabetics are like type 1 but the 
condition is too unstable to diagnose as type 1.   And yes, chasing your 
blood sugar can really put the weight on.




[FairfieldLife] Re: YAHWEH NUKED US BEFORE TRUMAN--Sasha Lessin, Ph.D. (Anthropology, UCLA) Web Radi

2013-05-12 Thread Ann


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > >
> > > What I think you may have missed in Salyavin's post is
> > > that he was making the case that the *extremity* of
> > > this particular set of beliefs can be seen as a metaphor
> > > for the extremity of ALL religious/spiritual beliefs,
> > > if you just step back from them and view them critically,
> > > devoid of pre-programmed acceptance. 
> > 
> > Nope, I saw it, just not in the mood for some big discussion 
> > about beliefs and which ones are more valid than others. 
> 
> Ah, I understand. You prefer letting out a "pretty 
> good rip snorter" to actually discussing ideas. My bad.

Absolutely! Have you let out any good ones lately? If not, you should try it - 
mighty rejuvenating.

And Barry, you little scoundrel you, you know perfectly well you have no 
intention of "actually discussing ideas" with me just like you have no 
intention of discussing Jyotish with Share. You do have the most mischievous 
sense of humour.
> 
> :-)
>




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: YAHWEH NUKED US BEFORE TRUMAN--Sasha Lessin, Ph.D. (Anthropology, UCLA) Web Radi

2013-05-12 Thread Bhairitu
What I find about a lot of "debunkers" is they are only doing so on an 
"emotional reaction."  IOW, they have no logical basis and can't because 
of the subjects have NOT been examined and researched enough.  So it's 
just a gut reaction that "this can't be."   Real scientists and folks 
who have scientific minds might find it more interesting to explore the 
subject and see if there is any validity to it.

One particular subject is a polar shift.  There was actual research 
done  and indeed evidence was found that the poles have shifted in the 
past.  Thing is the shift took place of a couple million years so any 
humans around would not have notice anything.  Of course all bets are 
off that if would take the same about of time again and that a quick 
shift might occur for reasons yet unknown to science.

On 05/11/2013 01:26 PM, John wrote:
> Salyavin,
>
> As you well know, PHD means piled higher and deeper.  :)
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
>>> Hey GN,
>>>
>>> The author appears to have deviated from the conservative realm of academia 
>>> into speculative and esoteric science.  A lot of the narrative appears to 
>>> have been taken from Zecariah Sitchin's books.
>>>
>>> I don't believe many of the anthropologists would agree with this author.
>> No shit? It does kind of underline my oft repeated point that
>> having a PHD doesn't make you some sort of dependable beacon
>> of truth. You can find a PHD or Prof endorsing pretty much any
>> kooky load of bollocks.
>>
>>   
>>> JR
>>>
>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Goddess Ninmah"  wrote:
 YAHWEH NUKED US BEFORE TRUMAN--Sasha Lessin, Ph.D. (Anthropology, UCLA) 
 Web Radio, article,

 The horrors perpetrated by Harry Truman, the U.S. President, when he 
 ordered the civilian populations of Hiroshima, and, if that were not 
 enough, Nagasaki also (to quickly end WWII and beat the Russians to 
 Japan), were nothing new on this planet.

 3,663 years ago, Yahweh, known then as Enlil, a 9 -12 foot fully Homo 
 Sapien ET from the Planet Nibiru, 49 astronomical units from Earth, 
 ordered nuclear attacks on the people and cities south of  the (thence) 
 Dead Sea in Canaan and on a spaceport he ran in Sinai.  The fallout 
 immediately blew over and killed most of the Sumerian Earthlings--those 
 loyal to Yahweh.  The moral: Those who support such horrid aggression 
 experience, in their turn, the horrors they support.  This article's a 
 plea: DISARM NUKES, NEGOTIATE PEACE AND COOPERATION FOR ALL.

 For article and illustrations that expand this program, see
 http://stargatetothecosmos.org/yahweh-nuked-us-before-truman-web-radio-article-illustrations-galore/

>
>



[FairfieldLife] Re: YAHWEH NUKED US BEFORE TRUMAN--Sasha Lessin, Ph.D. (Anthropology, UCLA) Web Radi

2013-05-12 Thread Ann


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Surely to God no one believes either the author or that GN could 
> > > > > > possibly have posted this with a straight face.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Are you kidding? There's a whole sub-culture of evolving new
> > > > > age guff like this. *Millions* believe it. I know perfectly
> > > > > sane, intelligent, successful people who believe mankind is 
> > > > > in telepathic communication with alien beings at the centre 
> > > > > of the galaxy.
> > > > 
> > > > If it was me I would amend that to "...perfectly successful people who 
> > > > believe mankind is..."
> > > 
> > > Nope. Are all christians, muslims insane because they don't apply
> > > logic to their view of the world? Some would say yes, I think that
> > > in an absence of structured and tested knowledge about the world
> > > all sorts of nonsense can creep in and be taken as fact. 
> > > 
> > > And in a science-savvy world, these religious sci-fi concepts are
> > > to be expected. Believing that Marduk is an extraterrestrial is no 
> > > stranger than believing in astrology or crystal healing.
> > 
> > I think you are taking this past where I was going initially. I was talking 
> > about the particular  post made by GN which cited a particularly wild 
> > assertion by Sasha Lessin regarding the Earth having been nuked by aliens a 
> > very long time ago. In case you have lost the initial guffaw-inspired 
> > reaction you no doubt had when first reading this little gem let me refresh 
> > your memory:
> > 
> >  "3,663 years ago, Yahweh, known then as Enlil, a 9 -12 foot fully Homo
> > Sapien ET from the Planet Nibiru, 49 astronomical units from Earth, ordered
> > nuclear attacks on the people and cities south of the (thence) Dead Sea in
> > Canaan and on a spaceport he ran in Sinai. The fallout immediately blew over
> > and killed most of the Sumerian Earthlings--those loyal to Yahweh."
> > 
> > If you would like to continue to defend statements like these as perfectly 
> > in line with other beliefs that run rampant among the human race, be my 
> > guest. But all I'm saying is that I am pretty sure that anyone who would 
> > believe this particular theory isn't likely to be having afternoon tea at 
> > my abode; I prefer not to hang out with crazies.
> 
> Sure it makes me laugh but no more than Jehovas witnesses, 
> scientology or spoon bending. It's all about whether you have an
> evidence based view of the world or a belief based one. 
> 
> But do you think it's somehow different from biblical beliefs 
> about God smiting the caananites and the fiery chariot in Ezekiel?
> The old testament is where the new age get their inspiration. The Xtians 
> weird beliefs seem normal simply because they've been with
> us for longer and have become a tradition. And don't get me started
> on flying machines in the Vedas, I'm sure Nabby will tell you that's
> all proof of extraterrestrials.
> 

I agree with you; we are surrounded by lots of " fantastical" theories and 
religions and ideas - some of them chronologically older, some of them younger. 
Many are based on nothing scientific or concrete. Many I ignore, most I have 
never heard of and some I was brought up with from when I was a child.

I don't take very much of these things as indisputable truths and I think about 
and analyze, to some extent, all of the ones that I come into contact with. 
Some are outlandishly funny but might be true. Some I think are true but am 
aware they could be, in the end,  preposterous fairytales. I certainly respect 
people's right to believe and tout whatever theories and beliefs they want but 
it won't keep me from rejecting those beliefs or laughing uproariously at them.

> If all ideas were fresh, which would you think crazy? Afternoon
> tea might be a lonely experience for you. Me, I don't care what
> people believe as long as it doesn't hurt anyone, and my new age
> friends who believe in all sorts of channeling and weird shit are
> no different from my TM friends or my Christian ones, as long as 
> they don't try and convert me they'll get scones and jam on my
> best china for sure.
>

I also think there is a difference between thinking something is crazy from 
thinking something unlikely or sensing something mired in dogma and therefore 
ill considered. I was actually initially using the word "crazies" as a 
catch-all and general term not really indicative of any highly analytical 
description of any one specific person or belief. "Crazy" is a very, very 
r

[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Mothers Day from the Alamo Drafthouse Cinema

2013-05-12 Thread Ann


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> On 05/12/2013 11:14 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
> > This was their Mothers Day card sent to frequent customers. At least
> > someone in Austin has a sense of humor. Passed along to those who
> > believe that "Mother Divine" is the only image of motherhood out
> > there...  :-)
> >
> >   
> > [https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/21287_1015147624\
> > 6263051_1633476000_n.jpg]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
>  From what movie?

Looks a lot like "Mommy Dearest" with Faye Dunaway playing Joan Crawford.
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: YAHWEH NUKED US BEFORE TRUMAN--Sasha Lessin, Ph.D. (Anthropology, UCLA) Web Radi

2013-05-12 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ...in a science-savvy world, these religious sci-fi concepts 
> > > > are to be expected. Believing that Marduk is an 
> > > > extraterrestrial is no stranger than believing in astrology 
> > > > or crystal healing.
> > > 
> > > I think you are taking this past where I was going initially. 
> > 
> > True, but with reason. It was *he* who took it further,
> > and you who failed to be able to follow where he took it. 
> > 
> > > I was talking about the particular post made by GN which cited 
> > > a particularly wild assertion by Sasha Lessin regarding the 
> > > Earth having been nuked by aliens a very long time ago. In 
> > > case you have lost the initial guffaw-inspired reaction you 
> > > no doubt had when first reading this little gem let me refresh 
> > > your memory:
> > > 
> > > "3,663 years ago, Yahweh, known then as Enlil, a 9 -12 foot 
> > > fully Homo Sapien ET from the Planet Nibiru, 49 astronomical 
> > > units from Earth, ordered nuclear attacks on the people and 
> > > cities south of the (thence) Dead Sea in Canaan and on a 
> > > spaceport he ran in Sinai. The fallout immediately blew over
> > > and killed most of the Sumerian Earthlings--those loyal to 
> > > Yahweh."
> > > 
> > > If you would like to continue to defend statements like these 
> > > as perfectly in line with other beliefs that run rampant among 
> > > the human race, be my guest. 
> > 
> > Salyavin was doing no such thing. He was EQUATING 
> > beliefs like this with beliefs in things like astrology
> > or crystal healing, saying (if I got what he was saying)
> > that these beliefs are in the SAME ballpark of crazy as
> > aliens nuking the planet 3,663 years ago. 
> > 
> > I agree with him. And that's not even venturing into
> > the realm of belief in things like a guy turning water
> > into wine or rising from the dead or Ganesha leaping
> > from mainland India to Ceylon or beings like Krishna,
> > Rama, and Sita ever having existed. Or that the direction 
> > a building faces affects you, or that by closing your
> > eyes and mentally repeating a Magic Word you've been
> > given, you can personally experience what Einstein
> > referred to as the Unified Field. 
> > 
> > ALL of these beliefs are fuckin' BONKERS, seen from the
> > point of view of someone -- anyone -- who has not spent
> > years or decades being indoctrinated into them. 
> > 
> > What I think you may have missed in Salyavin's post is
> > that he was making the case that the *extremity* of
> > this particular set of beliefs can be seen as a metaphor
> > for the extremity of ALL religious/spiritual beliefs,
> > if you just step back from them and view them critically,
> > devoid of pre-programmed acceptance. 
> > 
> > > But all I'm saying is that I am pretty sure that anyone 
> > > who would believe this particular theory isn't likely to 
> > > be having afternoon tea at my abode; I prefer not to hang 
> > > out with crazies.
> > 
> > Yet on this forum you "hang out" with people whose beliefs
> > are *just* as ludicrous, when seen without the overlay of
> > decades of indoctrination. You would be hanging out with
> > people just as crazy (from my point of view) if you hung
> > out with fundamentalist Christians, or orthodox Jews, or
> > Hindus or even some Southeast Asian flavors of Buddhists. 
> > 
> > Once they have bought into a belief system, they *lose
> > the ability to look at their beliefs critically, the way
> > someone who does not buy into them would*. The person
> > who came up with this jiveass horseshit about aliens
> > nuking the Middle East three millennia ago CANNOT SEE
> > HOW ANYONE WOULD CONSIDER IT WEIRD OR CRAZY. 
> > 
> > Neither can anyone equally invested in *their* particular
> > belief system. They are so *used to* and *immersed in*
> > the belief system as to no longer be able to understand
> > how anyone else could not be. 
> > 
> > Now think about Fairfield Life. People regularly post the
> > same old propaganda here about "the latest TM research," 
> > and are AMAZED that people aren't creaming their jeans 
> > over it the way that they are. People post exhortations 
> > to "come back to the domes" to save the world, completely
> > unaware that to many of us, the idea of them bouncing on
> > their collective butts twice a day as a mechanism *for*
> > saving the world is JUST as insane as Yahweh nuking the 
> > Middle East three millennia ago. 
> > 
> > One *picks* the crazies one hangs out with, that's all.
> 
> Hmm yes, nicely put. Tea at my place?

Next time I'm in the British Isles, definitely. :-)





[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Mothers Day from the Alamo Drafthouse Cinema

2013-05-12 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> On 05/12/2013 11:14 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
> > This was their Mothers Day card sent to frequent customers. At 
> > least someone in Austin has a sense of humor. Passed along to 
> > those who believe that "Mother Divine" is the only image of 
> > motherhood out there...  :-)
> >
> > [https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/21287_1015147624\6263051_1633476000_n.jpg]
> 
>  From what movie?

"Mommie Dearest," 1981:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082766/reference

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUkE9qaVgmo

Poignant to me after spending some time with Maya over
a holiday weekend, seeing again how fortunate she is 
to be raised by two loving Mommies, one Daddy, and one 
doting Uncle. 





[FairfieldLife] Re: YAHWEH NUKED US BEFORE TRUMAN--Sasha Lessin, Ph.D. (Anthropology, UCLA) Web Radi

2013-05-12 Thread merudanda
 [http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb6y0tH3vL1qfqvoko1_500.jpg]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" fintlewoodlewix@
wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Surely to God no one believes either the author or that GN
could possibly have posted this with a straight face.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Are you kidding? There's a whole sub-culture of evolving new
> > > > > > age guff like this. *Millions* believe it. I know perfectly
> > > > > > sane, intelligent, successful people who believe mankind is
> > > > > > in telepathic communication with alien beings at the centre
> > > > > > of the galaxy.
> > > > >
> > > > > If it was me I would amend that to "...perfectly successful
people who believe mankind is..."
> > > >
> > > > Nope. Are all christians, muslims insane because they don't
apply
> > > > logic to their view of the world? Some would say yes, I think
that
> > > > in an absence of structured and tested knowledge about the world
> > > > all sorts of nonsense can creep in and be taken as fact.
> > > >
> > > > And in a science-savvy world, these religious sci-fi concepts
are
> > > > to be expected. Believing that Marduk is an extraterrestrial is
no
> > > > stranger than believing in astrology or crystal healing.
> > >
> > > I think you are taking this past where I was going initially. I
was talking about the particular  post made by GN which cited a
particularly wild assertion by Sasha Lessin regarding the Earth having
been nuked by aliens a very long time ago. In case you have lost the
initial guffaw-inspired reaction you no doubt had when first reading
this little gem let me refresh your memory:
> > >
> > >  "3,663 years ago, Yahweh, known then as Enlil, a 9 -12 foot fully
Homo
> > > Sapien ET from the Planet Nibiru, 49 astronomical units from
Earth, ordered
> > > nuclear attacks on the people and cities south of the (thence)
Dead Sea in
> > > Canaan and on a spaceport he ran in Sinai. The fallout immediately
blew over
> > > and killed most of the Sumerian Earthlings--those loyal to
Yahweh."
> > >
> > > If you would like to continue to defend statements like these as
perfectly in line with other beliefs that run rampant among the human
race, be my guest. But all I'm saying is that I am pretty sure that
anyone who would believe this particular theory isn't likely to be
having afternoon tea at my abode; I prefer not to hang out with crazies.
> >
> > Sure it makes me laugh but no more than Jehovas witnesses,
> > scientology or spoon bending. It's all about whether you have an
> > evidence based view of the world or a belief based one.
> >
> > But do you think it's somehow different from biblical beliefs
> > about God smiting the caananites and the fiery chariot in Ezekiel?
> > The old testament is where the new age get their inspiration. The
Xtians weird beliefs seem normal simply because they've been with
> > us for longer and have become a tradition. And don't get me started
> > on flying machines in the Vedas, I'm sure Nabby will tell you that's
> > all proof of extraterrestrials.
> >
>
> I agree with you; we are surrounded by lots of " fantastical" theories
and religions and ideas - some of them chronologically older, some of
them younger. Many are based on nothing scientific or concrete. Many I
ignore, most I have never heard of and some I was brought up with from
when I was a child.
>
> I don't take very much of these things as indisputable truths and I
think about and analyze, to some extent, all of the ones that I come
into contact with. Some are outlandishly funny but might be true. Some I
think are true but am aware they could be, in the end,  preposterous
fairytales. I certainly respect people's right to believe and tout
whatever theories and beliefs they want but it won't keep me from
rejecting those beliefs or laughing uproariously at them.
>
> > If all ideas were fresh, which would you think crazy? Afternoon
> > tea might be a lonely experience for you. Me, I don't care what
> > people believe as long as it doesn't hurt anyone, and my new age
> > friends who believe in all sorts of channeling and weird shit are
> > no different from my TM friends or my Christian ones, as long as
> > they don't try and convert me they'll get scones and jam on my
> > best china for sure.
> >
>
> I also think there is a difference between thinking something is crazy
from thinking something unlikely or sensing something mired in dogma and
therefore ill considered. I was actually initially using the word
"

[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Mothers Day from the Alamo Drafthouse Cinema

2013-05-12 Thread merudanda
as always you are so right
 
[http://25.media.tumblr.com/d9b89e99bebbec52d1c7ac82dec51a2c/tumblr_mjiz\
gdx99E1qi3wpfo1_400.gif]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upc8wWI6F7Y


  [http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltp3uvtjZu1qems7ao1_500.gif]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
> >
> > On 05/12/2013 11:14 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
> > > This was their Mothers Day card sent to frequent customers. At
least
> > > someone in Austin has a sense of humor. Passed along to those who
> > > believe that "Mother Divine" is the only image of motherhood out
> > > there...  :-)
> > >
> > >
> > >
[https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/21287_1015147624\
\
> > > 6263051_1633476000_n.jpg]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >  From what movie?
>
> Looks a lot like "Mommy Dearest" with Faye Dunaway playing Joan
Crawford.
> >
>



 
[http://24.media.tumblr.com/e012420c74acd97c29d487de9c8d/tumblr_mm73\
gdxFfA1r1ult6o1_400.gif]

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[FairfieldLife] "Best" (matter of taste) sounding drumkits on this planet?

2013-05-12 Thread card

http://www.sjcdrums.com/soundbooth



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th

2013-05-12 Thread Michael Jackson
Brittle diabetics are those who experience wide blood sugar swings from very 
high to very low, although medically it generally refers to those who have 
significant lifestyle disruptions from the wild blood sugar swings. Some 
medical authorities believe that those who are brittle diabetics are those who 
are unhappy and if the unhappiness is resolved, the wide fluctuations cease.





 From: Bhairitu 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th
 


  
On 05/12/2013 09:58 AM, Alex Stanley wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jason"  wrote:
>>
>
> ---  "Ann"  wrote:
>> If I were in FF I would be sure to be there today - no lie.
 ---  "Alex Stanley"  wrote:
> Ugh... I am in FF, and you couldn't pay me to go.
>
>
>>> ---  "salyavin808"  wrote:
 Are you more of a steak and chips man Alex?


>> ---  "Alex Stanley"  wrote:
>>
>>> Grass-fed steak, and replace the chips with something non-starchy. And, 
>>> ditch the life-abnegating, fundie Hindu dogma as well.
>>>
>> Replace the steak with fish, it's better for you.
> I eat only one meat/poultry/fish/eggs meal per day, eaten between mid morning 
> and early afternoon, and I alternate with two days of fish/eggs/poultry 
> followed by one day pastured beef or lamb. The dairy in my diet is Radiance 
> Dairy cream in my coffee, one little cup of full fat fruit yogurt 5-6 days a 
> week, and a little butter. The bulk of my diet is non-starchy plant foods, 
> much of it raw. I eat my last meal of the day, usually carrot sticks and 
> guacamole, at 5pm, so that I sleep on an empty stomach and basically fast for 
> 12 hours every day.
>
> Personally, I don't care what any mainstream dietary dogma or "conventional 
> wisdom" says is healthy. I spent decades believing that kind of stuff while 
> completely ignoring my body telling me that it was all wrong for my 
> physiology. With all my experience from eating wrong to eating right, I am 
> now acutely aware of my metabolism and how it is affected by diet. I 
> experience two types of hunger: caloric hunger and nutrient hunger. I eat the 
> red meat that I do because it provides a deep sense of nutrient satiety that 
> no other food provides. I avoid starch because I'm carbohydrate sensitive, 
> and the glucose load spikes and crashes my blood sugar, making me tired and 
> lethargic and ramping up caloric hunger to a level that drives overeating. My 
> diet is all about high quality, nutrient dense foods that give the body what 
> it needs while maintaining a state of endocrine serenity.
>
>

Are you a "brittle diabetic?"  My aunt who was my mother's twin sister 
and an RN always thought my mother was.  In fact my mother had a GTT and 
it had the curve and she also suffered from hypoglycemia.  Same with 
me.  I thought the term "brittle diabetic" was something my aunt made up 
but it is a real medical term. Brittle diabetics are like type 1 but the 
condition is too unstable to diagnose as type 1.   And yes, chasing your 
blood sugar can really put the weight on.


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: NBC Mae Culpa

2013-05-12 Thread raunchydog


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Mike Dixon:
> > A famous quote made in the 2008 campaign, "who do 
> > you want in the W.H. to take a call at three in
> > the morning". Definitely not Obama or Hillary!
> > 
> Let's see, the Dems have Hillary Clinton and Joe 
> Biden. The Repugs have Paul Ryan, Chris Christie, 
> Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Bobby Jindal, Nikki Haley, 
> Rick Perry and Rand Paul. LoL!
> 
> 'Obama's Bush-league mistakes in foreign policy'
> http://tinyurl.com/d4vkybf
> 

"Hicks didn't refute the argument that there wasn't time to deploy special 
operations troops to Benghazi in time to prevent the second wave of attacks. 
And, dramatic as it was,  the "jaw dropped" quote doesn't prove that Rice or 
Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton concocted the explanation about the 
video to prevent election-year damage to President Obama's record in combating 
terrorism. In fact, the idea the attack might be connected to worldwide outrage 
over the video was eminently plausible at that point."

In December, an investigative panel concluded that the State Department was 
guilty of "systematic failures" in security. As for the talking points, it's 
often forgotten that even as Rice  was giving credence to the possibility that 
the attacks were inspired by the anti-Muslim video, she also said of the 
attackers: "Whether they were Al Qaeda affiliates, whether they were 
Libyan-based extremists or Al Qaeda itself, I think is one of the things we'll 
have to determine." 

Even so, she paid the political price for the controversy and was passed over 
for secretary of State. Benghazi might also come back to haunt Clinton if she 
runs for president in 2016. (Certainly Republicans would like that.) It 
certainly is a blot on the Obama administration's record. But Benghazi wasn't 
Watergate or Iran-Contra before Wednesday's hearing, and it still isn't."

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/opinion-la/la-ol-benghazi-hearing-20130508,0,6990608.story
>  
> > From what I've read, there was no demonstration
> > in front of the Benghazi consulate. Go figure.
> > 
> > "In addition to getting to the bottom of what the 
> > administration knew about Benghazi, and when they 
> > knew it, Congress needs get to the bottom of the 
> > coverup, which is apparently ongoing." 
> > 
> > 'A Benghazi bombshell'
> > Washington Post:
> > http://tinyurl.com/btxpbg3
> >
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th

2013-05-12 Thread Alex Stanley


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> On 05/12/2013 09:58 AM, Alex Stanley wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jason"  wrote:
> >>
> >
> > ---  "Ann"  wrote:
> >> If I were in FF I would be sure to be there today - no lie.
>  ---  "Alex Stanley"  wrote:
> > Ugh... I am in FF, and you couldn't pay me to go.
> >
> >
> >>> ---  "salyavin808"  wrote:
>  Are you more of a steak and chips man Alex?
> 
> 
> >> ---  "Alex Stanley"  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Grass-fed steak, and replace the chips with something non-starchy. And, 
> >>> ditch the life-abnegating, fundie Hindu dogma as well.
> >>>
> >> Replace the steak with fish, it's better for you.
> > I eat only one meat/poultry/fish/eggs meal per day, eaten between mid 
> > morning and early afternoon, and I alternate with two days of 
> > fish/eggs/poultry followed by one day pastured beef or lamb. The dairy in 
> > my diet is Radiance Dairy cream in my coffee, one little cup of full fat 
> > fruit yogurt 5-6 days a week, and a little butter. The bulk of my diet is 
> > non-starchy plant foods, much of it raw. I eat my last meal of the day, 
> > usually carrot sticks and guacamole, at 5pm, so that I sleep on an empty 
> > stomach and basically fast for 12 hours every day.
> >
> > Personally, I don't care what any mainstream dietary dogma or "conventional 
> > wisdom" says is healthy. I spent decades believing that kind of stuff while 
> > completely ignoring my body telling me that it was all wrong for my 
> > physiology. With all my experience from eating wrong to eating right, I am 
> > now acutely aware of my metabolism and how it is affected by diet. I 
> > experience two types of hunger: caloric hunger and nutrient hunger. I eat 
> > the red meat that I do because it provides a deep sense of nutrient satiety 
> > that no other food provides. I avoid starch because I'm carbohydrate 
> > sensitive, and the glucose load spikes and crashes my blood sugar, making 
> > me tired and lethargic and ramping up caloric hunger to a level that drives 
> > overeating. My diet is all about high quality, nutrient dense foods that 
> > give the body what it needs while maintaining a state of endocrine serenity.
> >
> >
> 
> Are you a "brittle diabetic?"  My aunt who was my mother's twin sister 
> and an RN always thought my mother was.  In fact my mother had a GTT and 
> it had the curve and she also suffered from hypoglycemia.  Same with 
> me.  I thought the term "brittle diabetic" was something my aunt made up 
> but it is a real medical term. Brittle diabetics are like type 1 but the 
> condition is too unstable to diagnose as type 1.   And yes, chasing your 
> blood sugar can really put the weight on.
>

I've never gotten any kind of diagnosis, but I've had blood sugar issues my 
entire life. For the most part, I grew out of the worst of it, which then 
allowed me to spend the first two decades of my adulthood believing Ayurvedic 
and new age dietary dogmas and eating a diet largely based on grains and beans. 
Thankfully, an ugly descent into middle age put an end to that. A few years 
ago, my HbA1c tested normal, so I don't think I have diabetes.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th

2013-05-12 Thread Susan


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >
> > On 05/12/2013 09:58 AM, Alex Stanley wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jason"  wrote:
> > >>
> > >
> > > ---  "Ann"  wrote:
> > >> If I were in FF I would be sure to be there today - no lie.
> >  ---  "Alex Stanley"  wrote:
> > > Ugh... I am in FF, and you couldn't pay me to go.
> > >
> > >
> > >>> ---  "salyavin808"  wrote:
> >  Are you more of a steak and chips man Alex?
> > 
> > 
> > >> ---  "Alex Stanley"  wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Grass-fed steak, and replace the chips with something non-starchy. And, 
> > >>> ditch the life-abnegating, fundie Hindu dogma as well.
> > >>>
> > >> Replace the steak with fish, it's better for you.
> > > I eat only one meat/poultry/fish/eggs meal per day, eaten between mid 
> > > morning and early afternoon, and I alternate with two days of 
> > > fish/eggs/poultry followed by one day pastured beef or lamb. The dairy in 
> > > my diet is Radiance Dairy cream in my coffee, one little cup of full fat 
> > > fruit yogurt 5-6 days a week, and a little butter. The bulk of my diet is 
> > > non-starchy plant foods, much of it raw. I eat my last meal of the day, 
> > > usually carrot sticks and guacamole, at 5pm, so that I sleep on an empty 
> > > stomach and basically fast for 12 hours every day.
> > >
> > > Personally, I don't care what any mainstream dietary dogma or 
> > > "conventional wisdom" says is healthy. I spent decades believing that 
> > > kind of stuff while completely ignoring my body telling me that it was 
> > > all wrong for my physiology. With all my experience from eating wrong to 
> > > eating right, I am now acutely aware of my metabolism and how it is 
> > > affected by diet. I experience two types of hunger: caloric hunger and 
> > > nutrient hunger. I eat the red meat that I do because it provides a deep 
> > > sense of nutrient satiety that no other food provides. I avoid starch 
> > > because I'm carbohydrate sensitive, and the glucose load spikes and 
> > > crashes my blood sugar, making me tired and lethargic and ramping up 
> > > caloric hunger to a level that drives overeating. My diet is all about 
> > > high quality, nutrient dense foods that give the body what it needs while 
> > > maintaining a state of endocrine serenity.
> > >
> > >
> > 
> > Are you a "brittle diabetic?"  My aunt who was my mother's twin sister 
> > and an RN always thought my mother was.  In fact my mother had a GTT and 
> > it had the curve and she also suffered from hypoglycemia.  Same with 
> > me.  I thought the term "brittle diabetic" was something my aunt made up 
> > but it is a real medical term. Brittle diabetics are like type 1 but the 
> > condition is too unstable to diagnose as type 1.   And yes, chasing your 
> > blood sugar can really put the weight on.
> >
> 
> I've never gotten any kind of diagnosis, but I've had blood sugar issues my 
> entire life. For the most part, I grew out of the worst of it, which then 
> allowed me to spend the first two decades of my adulthood believing Ayurvedic 
> and new age dietary dogmas and eating a diet largely based on grains and 
> beans. Thankfully, an ugly descent into middle age put an end to that. A few 
> years ago, my HbA1c tested normal, so I don't think I have diabetes.
>

Alex, I find an egg or 2 for breakfast keeps me steady for a long period of 
time.  And I feel really satisfied.  A great food, for me.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th

2013-05-12 Thread Bhairitu
On 05/12/2013 02:16 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>> On 05/12/2013 09:58 AM, Alex Stanley wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jason"  wrote:
>>> ---  "Ann"  wrote:
 If I were in FF I would be sure to be there today - no lie.
>> ---  "Alex Stanley"  wrote:
>>> Ugh... I am in FF, and you couldn't pay me to go.
>>>
>>>
> ---  "salyavin808"  wrote:
>> Are you more of a steak and chips man Alex?
>>
>>
 ---  "Alex Stanley"  wrote:

> Grass-fed steak, and replace the chips with something non-starchy. And, 
> ditch the life-abnegating, fundie Hindu dogma as well.
>
 Replace the steak with fish, it's better for you.
>>> I eat only one meat/poultry/fish/eggs meal per day, eaten between mid 
>>> morning and early afternoon, and I alternate with two days of 
>>> fish/eggs/poultry followed by one day pastured beef or lamb. The dairy in 
>>> my diet is Radiance Dairy cream in my coffee, one little cup of full fat 
>>> fruit yogurt 5-6 days a week, and a little butter. The bulk of my diet is 
>>> non-starchy plant foods, much of it raw. I eat my last meal of the day, 
>>> usually carrot sticks and guacamole, at 5pm, so that I sleep on an empty 
>>> stomach and basically fast for 12 hours every day.
>>>
>>> Personally, I don't care what any mainstream dietary dogma or "conventional 
>>> wisdom" says is healthy. I spent decades believing that kind of stuff while 
>>> completely ignoring my body telling me that it was all wrong for my 
>>> physiology. With all my experience from eating wrong to eating right, I am 
>>> now acutely aware of my metabolism and how it is affected by diet. I 
>>> experience two types of hunger: caloric hunger and nutrient hunger. I eat 
>>> the red meat that I do because it provides a deep sense of nutrient satiety 
>>> that no other food provides. I avoid starch because I'm carbohydrate 
>>> sensitive, and the glucose load spikes and crashes my blood sugar, making 
>>> me tired and lethargic and ramping up caloric hunger to a level that drives 
>>> overeating. My diet is all about high quality, nutrient dense foods that 
>>> give the body what it needs while maintaining a state of endocrine serenity.
>>>
>>>
>> Are you a "brittle diabetic?"  My aunt who was my mother's twin sister
>> and an RN always thought my mother was.  In fact my mother had a GTT and
>> it had the curve and she also suffered from hypoglycemia.  Same with
>> me.  I thought the term "brittle diabetic" was something my aunt made up
>> but it is a real medical term. Brittle diabetics are like type 1 but the
>> condition is too unstable to diagnose as type 1.   And yes, chasing your
>> blood sugar can really put the weight on.
>>
> I've never gotten any kind of diagnosis, but I've had blood sugar issues my 
> entire life. For the most part, I grew out of the worst of it, which then 
> allowed me to spend the first two decades of my adulthood believing Ayurvedic 
> and new age dietary dogmas and eating a diet largely based on grains and 
> beans. Thankfully, an ugly descent into middle age put an end to that. A few 
> years ago, my HbA1c tested normal, so I don't think I have diabetes.
>
>

Not all ayurvedic physicians endorse vegetarianism.  It actually is not 
a part of ayurveda.  I piss off a lot of vegans when I tell them 
nutrition is not an ideology.  You have to eat what your body needs.  As 
I understand it brittle diabetes is not stable because it is a form of 
diabetes that is not always present.  Basically I minimize or stay away 
from sweets.  That's part of having read "Sugar Blues" back in the  1970s.

The carbohydrate/protein balance usually determines how fast you 
metabolize your foods.  It's basically what ayurveda is about as well as 
Chinese medicine.  Also heat speeds up the metabolism (surprise, 
surprise) and cool slows it down.  That's why I always found it easier 
to lose weight in summer.   Apparently most of the US public is high 
strung so they prefer sweet, salty and fat in their food.  Those are the 
"comfort" flavors.  Right there is an example of ayurvedic concepts in 
action but the information is from conventional medicine.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Mothers Day from the Alamo Drafthouse Cinema

2013-05-12 Thread laughinggull108
IFC also has a somewhat morbid sense of humor this Mother's Day as they're 
showing "Mommie Dearest" continuously starting at 2:30 ET today...nearing the 
end of the second showing...third showing starts at 8:15 pm ET.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >
> > On 05/12/2013 11:14 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
> > > This was their Mothers Day card sent to frequent customers. At 
> > > least someone in Austin has a sense of humor. Passed along to 
> > > those who believe that "Mother Divine" is the only image of 
> > > motherhood out there...  :-)
> > >
> > > [https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/21287_1015147624\6263051_1633476000_n.jpg]
> > 
> >  From what movie?
> 
> "Mommie Dearest," 1981:
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082766/reference
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUkE9qaVgmo
> 
> Poignant to me after spending some time with Maya over
> a holiday weekend, seeing again how fortunate she is 
> to be raised by two loving Mommies, one Daddy, and one 
> doting Uncle.
>




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Mothers Day from the Alamo Drafthouse Cinema

2013-05-12 Thread Mike Dixon
Sweet little Rhoda. LOL

 


 From: laughinggull108 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 4:06 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Mothers Day from the Alamo Drafthouse Cinema
  
 
 
   
 
IFC also has a somewhat morbid sense of humor this Mother's Day as they're 
showing "Mommie Dearest" continuously starting at 2:30 ET today...nearing the 
end of the second showing...third showing starts at 8:15 pm ET.

--- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >
> > On 05/12/2013 11:14 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
> > > This was their Mothers Day card sent to frequent customers. At 
> > > least someone in Austin has a sense of humor. Passed along to 
> > > those who believe that "Mother Divine" is the only image of 
> > > motherhood out there...  :-)
> > >
> > > [https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/21287_1015147624\6263051_1633476000_n.jpg]
> > 
> >  From what movie?
> 
> "Mommie Dearest," 1981:
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082766/reference
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUkE9qaVgmo
> 
> Poignant to me after spending some time with Maya over
> a holiday weekend, seeing again how fortunate she is 
> to be raised by two loving Mommies, one Daddy, and one 
> doting Uncle.
>

   
 

[FairfieldLife] Baby pics- new Peregrine Falcon [2 Attachments]

2013-05-12 Thread Mike Dixon
My newly hatched Peregrine falcon with mom and pop and baby brother.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Baby pics- new Peregrine Falcon

2013-05-12 Thread Share Long
Oh my gosh, Mike, so sweet.  Thank you so much for posting, perfect for 
Mother's Day (-:
Do you train the falcons?  Are there competitions?  I know almost nothing about 
contemporary falconry.





 From: Mike Dixon 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 6:37 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Baby pics- new Peregrine Falcon [2 Attachments]
 


  
[Attachment(s) from Mike Dixon included below]
My newly hatched Peregrine falcon with mom and pop and baby brother.
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Mothers Day from the Alamo Drafthouse Cinema

2013-05-12 Thread Buck


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> This was their Mothers Day card sent to frequent customers. At least
> someone in Austin has a sense of humor. Passed along to those who
> believe that "Mother Divine" is the only image of motherhood out
> there...  :-)
> 

Had the most beautifully formed colt born early this morning before morning 
meditation.
Sunday, Mother's Day.
-Buck on the Range



[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Feast and Flight, Saturday, May 11th

2013-05-12 Thread Buck
Om, "endocrine serenity" is another term for Transcendence which comes from 
proper meditation.  -B  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >
> > On 05/12/2013 09:58 AM, Alex Stanley wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jason"  wrote:
> > >>
> > >
> > > ---  "Ann"  wrote:
> > >> If I were in FF I would be sure to be there today - no lie.
> >  ---  "Alex Stanley"  wrote:
> > > Ugh... I am in FF, and you couldn't pay me to go.
> > >
> > >
> > >>> ---  "salyavin808"  wrote:
> >  Are you more of a steak and chips man Alex?
> > 
> > 
> > >> ---  "Alex Stanley"  wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Grass-fed steak, and replace the chips with something non-starchy. And, 
> > >>> ditch the life-abnegating, fundie Hindu dogma as well.
> > >>>
> > >> Replace the steak with fish, it's better for you.
> > > I eat only one meat/poultry/fish/eggs meal per day, eaten between mid 
> > > morning and early afternoon, and I alternate with two days of 
> > > fish/eggs/poultry followed by one day pastured beef or lamb. The dairy in 
> > > my diet is Radiance Dairy cream in my coffee, one little cup of full fat 
> > > fruit yogurt 5-6 days a week, and a little butter. The bulk of my diet is 
> > > non-starchy plant foods, much of it raw. I eat my last meal of the day, 
> > > usually carrot sticks and guacamole, at 5pm, so that I sleep on an empty 
> > > stomach and basically fast for 12 hours every day.
> > >
> > > Personally, I don't care what any mainstream dietary dogma or 
> > > "conventional wisdom" says is healthy. I spent decades believing that 
> > > kind of stuff while completely ignoring my body telling me that it was 
> > > all wrong for my physiology. With all my experience from eating wrong to 
> > > eating right, I am now acutely aware of my metabolism and how it is 
> > > affected by diet. I experience two types of hunger: caloric hunger and 
> > > nutrient hunger. I eat the red meat that I do because it provides a deep 
> > > sense of nutrient satiety that no other food provides. I avoid starch 
> > > because I'm carbohydrate sensitive, and the glucose load spikes and 
> > > crashes my blood sugar, making me tired and lethargic and ramping up 
> > > caloric hunger to a level that drives overeating. My diet is all about 
> > > high quality, nutrient dense foods that give the body what it needs while 
> > > maintaining a state of endocrine serenity.
> > >
> > >
> > 
> > Are you a "brittle diabetic?"  My aunt who was my mother's twin sister 
> > and an RN always thought my mother was.  In fact my mother had a GTT and 
> > it had the curve and she also suffered from hypoglycemia.  Same with 
> > me.  I thought the term "brittle diabetic" was something my aunt made up 
> > but it is a real medical term. Brittle diabetics are like type 1 but the 
> > condition is too unstable to diagnose as type 1.   And yes, chasing your 
> > blood sugar can really put the weight on.
> >
> 
> I've never gotten any kind of diagnosis, but I've had blood sugar issues my 
> entire life. For the most part, I grew out of the worst of it, which then 
> allowed me to spend the first two decades of my adulthood believing Ayurvedic 
> and new age dietary dogmas and eating a diet largely based on grains and 
> beans. Thankfully, an ugly descent into middle age put an end to that. A few 
> years ago, my HbA1c tested normal, so I don't think I have diabetes.
>



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[FairfieldLife] 'From the Bosom of the Devastated Earth,' a History of Mother's Day for Peace

2013-05-12 Thread Dick Mays
Forwarded from a friend

Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 07:48:09 -0400
From: i...@thepeacealliance.org
Huffington Post website: 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/matthew-albracht/peace-mothers-day_b_3226405.html


A History of Mother's Day and Peace
Dear John,
I wrote a blog article on the history of Mother's Day and peace.  You can read 
it below or click over toHuffington Post where it was published.  Please share 
it around so that others learn more about this important part of the legacy of 
this national holiday.
And, if you haven't yet signed our Mother's Day inspired petition to the 
President and Congress, please do so.
Wishing all our mothers out there a wonderful day. 
May peace prevail,
Matthew


'From the Bosom of the Devastated Earth,' a History of Mother's Day for Peace
"Arise, then, women of this day! Arise all women who have hearts, whether our 
baptism be that of water or of tears!... We women of one country will be too 
tender of those of another country to allow our sons to be trained to injure 
theirs. From the bosom of the devastated earth a voice goes up with our own. It 
says "Disarm, Disarm! The sword of murder is not the balance of justice." 
~Julia Ward Howe, 1870
>From her Mother's Day Proclamation for Peace
Too few Americans are aware that early advocates of Mother's Day in the United 
States originally envisioned it as a day of peace, to honor and support mothers 
who lost sons and husbands to the carnage of the Civil War.
In 1870 -- nearly 40 years before it became an official U.S. holiday in 1914 -- 
social justice advocate Julia Ward Howe issued her inspired Mother's Day 
Proclamation, which called upon mothers of all nationalities to band together 
to promote the "amicable settlement of international questions, the great and 
general interests of peace." She envisioned a day of solemn council where women 
from all over the world could meet to discuss the means whereby to achieve 
world peace.
Julia Ward Howe was a prominent American abolitionist, feminist, poet, and the 
author of "The Battle Hymn of the Republic." She nursed and tended the wounded 
during the civil war, and worked with the widows and orphans of soldiers on 
both sides of the war, realizing that the effects of the war go far beyond the 
killing of soldiers in battle. The devastation she witnessed during the civil 
war inspired her to call out for women to "rise up through the ashes and 
devastation," urging a Mother's Day dedicated to peace. Her advocacy continued 
as she saw war arise again in the world in the Franco-Prussian War.
As the call for a Mother's Day carried on, it gained new momentum and finally 
became a national holiday in the early 1900's with the lead of Anna Jarvis, who 
had been inspired by her mother, also named Anna Jarvis, who had worked with 
Julia Ward Howe in earlier efforts for a Mother's Day.
While Mother's Day has presently lost much of its early edge for justice, it's 
important to note some of the underpinning intentions and re-commit ourselves 
to its prescient calling. At a time when our country is again engaged in 
devastating and costly wars abroad and many of our own communities are torn 
apart by violence, it's time for Mother's Day to return to its roots.
In the spirit of Ward Howe's original call, this occasion can be a time to 
dedicate ourselves, on behalf of mothers, fathers, sisters and brothers 
everywhere, to rise up and protect our most vulnerable by calling for our 
leaders to make a directional shift in the course of our nation. There is no 
need more urgent than addressing the devastation brought on by violence in all 
of its forms - affecting the lives of untold millions in our nation and around 
the world. Then, we may finally see the carnage and devastation of violence and 
war fade into its own history. There could of course be no better way to honor 
our mothers.
MOTHER'S DAY PROCLAMATION
~Julia Ward Howe
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"Arise, then, women of this day! Arise all women who have hearts, whether our 
baptism be that of water or of fears!

Say firmly: "We will not have great questions decided by irrelevant agencies. 
Our husbands shall not come to us, reeking with carnage, for caresses and 
applause. Our sons shall not be taken from us to unlearn all that we have been 
able to teach them of charity, mercy and patience.

We women of one country will be too tender of those of another country to allow 
our sons to be trained to injure theirs. From the bosom of the devastated earth 
a voice goes up with our own. It says "Disarm, Disarm! The sword of murder is 
not the balance of justice."

Blood does not wipe our dishonor nor violence indicate possession. As men have 
often forsaken the plow and the anvil at the summons of war, let women now 
leave all that may be left of home for a great and earnest day of counsel.

Let them meet first, as women, to bewail and commemorate the dead. Let them 
then solemnly take counsel with each other as to the means whereby

Re: [FairfieldLife] Baby pics- new Peregrine Falcon

2013-05-12 Thread Mike Dixon
Yes, I've trained falcons since the early sixties. This one is being raised in 
Iowa. I should be getting her around July first. There aren't really any 
competitions but there are falconry meets all over the country. Texas Hawking 
association has one every January, usually in Abilene, although this year it 
was changed to Waco. Falconers gather and go out hunting with their birds. Down 
here, ducks are the favored quarry for Peregrines. They *wait-on* above a pond 
about 1,000 to 2,000 feet and then the ducks are flushed and the falcon drops 
out of the sky, upwards of 200-300 miles an hour and smack the duck. It really 
is a breath-taking event. Speed and agility at it's finest. I'm thinking of 
calling this one Nike( goddess of victory and also an anti- aircraft missile),

 


 From: Share Long 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Baby pics- new Peregrine Falcon
  
   
 
Oh my gosh, Mike, so sweet.  Thank you so much for posting, perfect for 
Mother's Day (-:Do you train the falcons?  Are there competitions?  I know 
almost nothing about contemporary falconry.

 


 From: Mike Dixon 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 6:37 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Baby pics- new Peregrine Falcon [2 Attachments]
  
 
  
My newly hatched Peregrine falcon with mom and pop and baby brother. 
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dome Rot;

2013-05-12 Thread sparaig
Transcendental Consciousness isn't an experience.


L

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Thanks for the water analogy.  Can you say more about the context of the 
> bliss and blissful quote?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: wgm4u 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 6:03 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dome Rot;
>  
> 
> 
>   
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > Also no trepidation because what is there to be afraid of?   It's all
> changing all the time, death happening all around you all the time.  What 
> did
> Maharishi say about the relative?  One mass of death.  And in the midst 
> of all
> that change and death, something so alive and unchanging. 
> >
> > He also said bliss is not always blissful.  I think many people >>like to
> >>ignore the ramifications of that.
> 
> 'Bliss' is a poor translation of the profound Sanskrit word 'anandam', as MMY 
> says "contact with Brahman brings bliss". In other words, if you haven't 
> experienced anandam (indescribable bliss) you haven't fully consciously 
> transcended, even once!
> 
> His comment bliss is not always blissful is wholly taken out of context and 
> misleading (one comment in 50+ years like this).
> 
> At first, the self experiences bliss (TC) as the true Self or the EGO 
> (ahamkara), much like taking a drink out of a glass of water, as the 
> experiences advances it's much like the greater bliss of a pitcher of 
> water,(GC) as it advances even further the pitcher breaks and one experiences 
> ONESELF as pure unbounded bliss (UC). (SAT-Chit-Ananda)
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Mothers Day from the Alamo Drafthouse Cinema

2013-05-12 Thread Ann


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > This was their Mothers Day card sent to frequent customers. At least
> > someone in Austin has a sense of humor. Passed along to those who
> > believe that "Mother Divine" is the only image of motherhood out
> > there...  :-)
> > 
> 
> Had the most beautifully formed colt born early this morning before morning 
> meditation.
> Sunday, Mother's Day.
> -Buck on the Range

PICTURES!!
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Baby pics- new Peregrine Falcon

2013-05-12 Thread John
Mike,

Congratulations to the addition of baby falcons in your barn.  Let us know when 
they can fly.

JR



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
>
> My newly hatched Peregrine falcon with mom and pop and baby brother.
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Mothers Day from the Alamo Drafthouse Cinema

2013-05-12 Thread doctordumbass
Happy Mare's Day!!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > This was their Mothers Day card sent to frequent customers. At least
> > someone in Austin has a sense of humor. Passed along to those who
> > believe that "Mother Divine" is the only image of motherhood out
> > there...  :-)
> > 
> 
> Had the most beautifully formed colt born early this morning before morning 
> meditation.
> Sunday, Mother's Day.
> -Buck on the Range
>




[FairfieldLife] Question for Nabby

2013-05-12 Thread turquoiseb
Is this Maitreya, or merely one of His shape-shifting
Space Brother minions? Or is this just what happens
to one's appearance when one walks the circuit of a 
crop circle the way some people walk labyrinths?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bpfAORTJ8U





[FairfieldLife] Talking About Food in SF

2013-05-12 Thread John
I decided to have lunch at my favorite bar in SF (Tommy's Joynt) for lunch 
today to eat lamb shanks, served with a sour dough bun, potatoes and gravy.  
From another patron, I heard that a Persian restaurant on the same avenue 
served the same dish, which I haven't visited yet.  I ordered my favorite beer, 
Sierra Nevada, and the dish was delicious as always.

Also, I was watching the Warriors play the San Antonio Spurs play on TV.  But 
the local team was behind while I was watching the game.

After eating, I headed to my car and realized that the day was too nice and 
sunny to go home.  So, I decided to go to Fishermen's Wharf for a stroll and 
mingle with the tourist crowd.

While I was there, I bought a sour dough baguette at Boudin's Bakery, along 
with a brownie cake, a bottle of dipping oil, pesto cheese and pasta sauce.

Then I checked in at Pompei's Grotto restaurant to have another bottle of beer 
and catch up on the basketball game.  The Warriors were able to tie up the game 
by regulation time.  And, they eventually won the game during the overtime.

After the game, I walked by the Aquatic Park to see the crowd near the beach.  
Two hardy souls were swimming laps in the freezing water of the SF Bay.  A 
gentle breeze was blowing and the children were playing on the sand on a nice 
sunny afternoon.

Overall, it was a beautiful day.