Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post
Guys, guys - come one why these long faces? You should be happy that you were lucky enough to be alive during Raja Ravi's time. On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 10:32 PM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: You got what you deserved Edg. How'z come you weren't born during Ramana Maharishi's time? Howz come that? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: How'z'come it is that we always ask, Why did Maharishi have sex? instead of: Why in the fuck are we such spiritual toads that he's all we could muster up for a guru? Gotta agree with Steve on this one, Edg. TMers got pretty much what they deserved, because they showed all the discrimination of this woman, when utilizing the services of a Ghostbuster. And with the same result: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/24/ghostbuster-exorcism-with-penis_n_3809865.html Who ya gonna call? :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Nidal Hassan Is Found Guilty Welcome MUM MA in Film Season 1 Anythings goes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Scx2blWVMQk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Scx2blWVMQk --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita wrote: http://vimeo.com/51681091 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjYZToXuJaM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita s3raphita@ wrote: After the war the game of chess was also forbidden in case it stirred up military ambitions. What would they have thought of Call of Duty and Grand Theft Auto? My favorite thing to do when I play Grand Theft Auto, drive around knocking people off, until I come to some women. I pull up to this one and pull up to that one, until I find that one special woman, and she jumps in the car with me. The predatory instinct sure kicks in the below the saint and even below the belt feelings while I do this. Then I drive the car with her sitting by my side. Use the control to change the music to the talk radio station, then I proceed to drive on through the alleys, and even some of the bushes if need be. We are alone. All of a sudden, that car starts a shaking, rocking and hearing all kinds of noises. Then it stops, she climbs out the car and begins to walk away. Well, I'll have none of that, I get out of the car too and switch to the largest weapon on the control panel that I have and shoot er. Yep. Shoot er for leaving. I get back in the car and drive around and run over a few more people, then I go to the secret garage and switch vehicles, because by that point just before, the cops were on to me. Make love not war. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: Or the mass-rape of German culture by the Americans after the war. They weren't even allowed to sing their own national anthem in school ! And if their cities were not completely destroyed by allied bombing the new buildings built by architects from all over the world certainly has made the alienation complete. Just go to Berlin and see for yourself, it's a complete mess except for small enclaves dotted around the city that have hold on to some old charm.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post
Obbajee, don't worry, I think I've gotten a little wiser about all that since first joining FFL. Happy fox hunting! From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 12:25 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post Share, what I meant about the questions about brothers or sisters or cousins. This would be for those of us who have romanticized any of our special heroes at the Funny Farm. Dreaming of oh, what a smart person he/she appears, I imagine us on a dessert island and no one else to see, what-could-happen. In reality, the meeting could be awkward as hell! The first glimpse may make one's face embarrassingly and noticeably disappointed to the magical, Captain America or Wonder Woman, we thought each other as. (The above only applies to those who are using the Funny Farm to search the friendly skies for a mate) I am not implying Ann owns a Funny Farm. No bones about it. :) This is the Funny Farm Lounge, FFL Yahoo Message Group. There is a plethora avatars here, who have a bunch of skeletons in the closet! So the main reason to ask for example, the Turq, if he has brothers or cousins, in my case, would be even if I had imagined him to be a hunk online FFL at maybe one paragraph somewhere, that question will be able to smooth over any personal mating thoughts I may have had about him for only a smidgin of a second, and politely keep him in the conversation but asking if he has cute brothers, or cousins, because they could not all be a freak, just because one is. Does this answer your question, Share? Off to the polo club. Gotta get ready for the fox hunt at Ann's. Ann, do you fox hunt? ;) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: dear Obbajee, simply platonic is hunky dory with me. But not sure what you mean by the question to turq about having any brothers, sisters or cousins? Do you mean we would make everyday kind of conversation? All I can say is that I've gone from email relating to living together and there can be a few surprises for sure (-: From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 11:51 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post  Share, don't mind if I do. If we at the Funny Farm Lounge, and its occupants got together, we would find we were all like in some way and we will be asking each other for example; Turq, do you have any brother's or sisters? Cousins? In conclusion to this, the party at Ann's will be simply platonic! Come and join the fun! If this reads, BORING!..when we go back to our rooms for the evening, alone, we can hook up to Ann's WIFI and write and share things via email as to what we imagined the wonderful person is via the Funny Farm Lounge. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Thanks, Jason, makes me wonder what would happen if we could smell the Funny Farm Lounge and its occupants (-: From: Jason jedi_spock@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 7:28 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post  --- Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Jason, it's this kind of insightful input that makes me glad you've returned to the forum. I also appreciated your post about the 6 kinds of immune system and complementary immune systems being the basis of sexual attraction. I had not previously heard about either aspect of the immune system though I was familiar with the idea of facial symmetry. I googled on 6 types of immune systems and didn't find anything definitive. Are the 6 types of systems based on the types of immune cells? Share, I heard this a number of times on the discovery channel. I think you should be able to find if by googling discovery along immune systems and attraction. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_odor_and_subconscious_human_sexual_attraction https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/library/01/6/l_016_08.html From: Jason jedi_spock@ turquoiseb: To rudely follow up on my own post, but cutting to the chase... --- richardatrwilliamsdotus punditster@ wrote: If you had free will, you could levitate or leap over tall buildings; you would have mind control and be able to predict the future, so you could avoid the dangers that lie ahead. Go figure. Free will would be like being a God - able to cause change at will. Sorry Charlie, but the world doesn't work that way. We all follow the laws of cause and effect - a body in motion tends to stay in motion, etc. That is, unless
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How the deluded see the world....
Do you realize Grandpa Xeno how psychopathically deranged your experiences sound? You are too alienated emotionally, psychologically - god I felt so sick reading your vomit. On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: Over the years I've been on this forum, I have gradually ceased to believe that there is a universally applicable scheme for the development of enlightenment, such that if someone doesn't have *this* experience or does have *that* experience, it means they are (or are not) enlightened. Some experiences (or lack of same) may be more common than others, but you can't make absolute, across-the-board rules that apply to all individuals without exception, any more than you can do it with the experience of falling in love. The uniqueness of first-person ontology remains just that. My opinion, anyway. [to Dr Dumbass] Not what I meant by scheme. I meant something like Maharishi's Seven States of Consciousness--an outline, format, a schedule, a list of symptoms. First-person ontology is the thing that enlightenment gets rid of, I question this and every other statement you've made in this post that you apply across the board, as opposed to describing your own experience. I am describing my own experience. That is all I have. There is just experience. Not experiences, with an 's', but experience, singular. Experience*s* are like sub directories or folders on a computer. It is not uncommon these days, others on this forum certainly seem to be experiencing something similar. There are a number of people in Fairfield having this kind of experience. And, I am confident, many others in all walks of life having these experiences. It is in the air. It is not just a matter of TM, there are lots of groups and people bent on awakening and succeeding. I say these things across the board because that is the way I experience these things and there is some support in the environment for this way of describing human experience in long term meditators. None of this is special with me. You have every prerogative to question (although you have not actually questioned anything above, you have only stated that you question it). Mapping out benchmarks for spiritual development is a minefield because as you said, 'I think there are likely many exceptions and anomalies', so there are people who are not going to fit the mold. My outline using the terms M used is just one way one could try to map general categories of experience. For example, Charles Manson shows a number of characteristics of unity if we examine his statements, but he is also insane, a psychopath, and lacks certain characteristics that a presumably normal person would have, so he would be a significant outlier in any scheme that purports to categorise enlightenment benchmarks. I have a collection of Classical music recordings. I always have trouble trying to shelf them in some coherent way. My system here is generally by time period and the composer's name, using the date of death as a marker within a time period and beyond that I can remember where most composers lie on the time line. I think M's scheme for enlightenment is workable for many people, it is more detailed than some schemes, but in the end any scheme turns out to be nonsense, but it has applicability for giving one a bearing while on the path. If a person's experience is anomalous, a scheme will appear to be wrong to that person. In retrospect a scheme might even seem more on point than when one was on the path, because when you are on the path, you do not really know what you are headed for, or even where you are, and a benchmark isn't a specific experience, it is an general category of experience so making a mistake in interpreting what is going on is certainly a reasonable assumption. Even the belief in a scheme might be useful just to keep you going. My experiences were in some ways anomalous and that led to much doubt. I went through a long period where I did not want to read anything about spiritual development, meditating all the while, but just not interested in hearing about or discussing it. Also run-of-the-mill TM discussions can be incredibly boring. At any point in a spiritual path all one really needs is information that applies directly to what one's experience or experiences are just at that time, and not any other drivel; it does not always work to apply cookie cutter templates. The TM movement does not really want you to look at other stuff, but eventually that is what helped me most; I took complete control of my 'program' away from the movement over time because it failed to provide the information I
[FairfieldLife] This is not a pretty picture!
The 'Arab Spring' seems to have turned into a 'Muslim Brotherhood'. Go figure. I'm not in favor of nation-building without an end plan, like we didn't had in Iraq or Afghanistan. There's a huge downside to aiding the rebels in Syria, and only a very tiny upside. Who could we count on to help the U.S. in Syria? If you thought the dictators in Iraq and Egypt were difficult to depose - the present Syrian regime would take an invasion of two million fighters in order to bring it down. So, if we help the Islamists depose the dictators, what have we got left to deal with? An al Qaeda in power in Syria, allied with Lebanon, Turkey, Iran, Afghanistan, Iraq, Egypt, Libya, and Pakistan. So, what would be left of the Middle East - the Brotherhood, Hezbollah, Hamas, and the Taliban. President Obama now faces a moment similar to the one President Carter faced when the Soviets invaded Afghanistan. The assumptions that shaped key elements of his foreign policy have not held up; times have changed radically and policy must shift. The president is a talented leader; the world will be watching what he does. 'The Failed Grand Strategy in the Middle East' Wall Street Journal: http://tinyurl.com/lw54qe2 NOBEL PEACE PRIZE UPDATE: David Cameron and Barack Obama moved the west closer to military intervention in Syria on Saturday.' The Guardian: http://tinyurl.com/mjewzxv
[FairfieldLife] Re: Avoid the Danger That Lies Ahead
emptybill: Did you turn off your brain? Does it bother anyone else that the mime is talking? No one survises the future. All you have to do is wake up from the dream - it's that simple. When you wake up to Reality, you'll find there's no future, past, or present - time doesn't exist. A guy once dreamed he was a butterfly. When he woke up he realized he was a man. But, was he a man that was dreaming he was a butterfly, or a butterfly dreaming that he was a man? So, the cities are broke; the country is broke; and we're just sitting around watching TV, doing next to nothing, apparently. The big question now is what comes next: a sudden crash, or a slow decline. One constant is change - we could shrink the size of government and bring the troops home. We could be creative again, in order to deal with the danger that lies ahead. But, the old crowd and most of the new crowd are just sitting there, watching TV and following Breaking Bad, one of the most depressing shows to come down the pike in a long time! We're now fascinated with the lives of criminals. Check out some of the lyrics on new popular music. How can we survive the future? My nature is pessimistic. I look on a world burdened by debt and faced by a fanatical enemy that has nuclear weapons, and I find it hard to see how we can avoid what at best would be a very hard time. Downgrade Diary: http://tinyurl.com/mkdz5k6 http://tinyurl.com/mkdz5k6
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post
We were all born in Kali Yuga, which means none of us had what it took to get enlightened for the three previous yugas. Yep, toads. All of us. Seriously, is it any wonder that we ended up HOPPING as our spiritual practice? Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: You got what you deserved Edg. How'z come you weren't born during Ramana Maharishi's time? Howz come that? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: How'z'come it is that we always ask, Why did Maharishi have sex? instead of: Why in the fuck are we such spiritual toads that he's all we could muster up for a guru? Gotta agree with Steve on this one, Edg. TMers got pretty much what they deserved, because they showed all the discrimination of this woman, when utilizing the services of a Ghostbuster. And with the same result: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/24/ghostbuster-exorcism-with-penis\ _n_3809865.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/24/ghostbuster-exorcism-with-peni\ s_n_3809865.html Who ya gonna call? :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: How the deluded see the world....
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: I am describing my own experience. That is all I have. That is all that *anyone* has, or has had, in *any* era of human existence. The attempt to portray one's subjective experience as objective or universal or even as something to be desired or aspired to is IMO sheer narcissism. There is just experience. Not experiences, with an 's', but experience, singular. Experience*s* are like sub directories or folders on a computer. It is not uncommon these days, others on this forum certainly seem to be experiencing something similar. If you're talking about the type of experience that people characterize as enlightenment, it should sober up people claiming it that even *I* have had such experience. Unlike them, I didn't try to make it more than what it was -- Just Another Experience. There are a number of people in Fairfield having this kind of experience. And, I am confident, many others in all walks of life having these experiences. It is in the air. It is not just a matter of TM, there are lots of groups and people bent on awakening and succeeding. Interestingly, the scientific literature is full of people who have never even *heard* of enlightenment having experiences that seekers associate only with it, and only with having practiced techniques to develop such experiences. Things like witnessing during waking or sleep are common, as are moments of no-thought, and of perceptions of silence or stillness underlying (and simultaneous with) all other experience. And, of course, we probably would not have had the psychological diagnosis of dissoc- iation if people hadn't felt separate from their egos. I say these things across the board because that is the way I experience these things and there is some support in the environment for this way of describing human experience in long term meditators. None of this is special with me. That is probably because you don't try to *make* it special with you, or characterize yourself as special because you've had such experience. Others should learn from your example. :-) You have every prerogative to question (although you have not actually questioned anything above, you have only stated that you question it). Mapping out benchmarks for spiritual development is a minefield because as you said, 'I think there are likely many exceptions and anomalies', so there are people who are not going to fit the mold. My outline using the terms M used is just one way one could try to map general categories of experience. Agreed. It's a convenient shorthand to use on a forum like this one, where many people have not been exposed to other, possibly more precise ways of describing the experience. For example, Charles Manson shows a number of characteristics of unity if we examine his statements, but he is also insane, a psychopath, and lacks certain characteristics that a presumably normal person would have, so he would be a significant outlier in any scheme that purports to categorise enlightenment benchmarks. NOT in terms of the experiences themselves, just in terms of the mythical side effects that spiritual traditions claim for such experiences. They're supposed to make you all good and happy and life-supported and all that. I've never bought that, and suspect that there is no connection between these types of experience and behavior. I have a collection of Classical music recordings. I always have trouble trying to shelf them in some coherent way. My system here is generally by time period and the composer's name, using the date of death as a marker within a time period and beyond that I can remember where most composers lie on the time line. I think M's scheme for enlightenment is workable for many people, it is more detailed than some schemes, but in the end any scheme turns out to be nonsense, but it has applicability for giving one a bearing while on the path. If a person's experience is anomalous, a scheme will appear to be wrong to that person. NO map is ever the territory. In retrospect a scheme might even seem more on point than when one was on the path, because when you are on the path, you do not really know what you are headed for, or even where you are, and a benchmark isn't a specific experience, it is an general category of experience so making a mistake in interpreting what is going on is certainly a reasonable assumption. Even the belief in a scheme might be useful just to keep you going. My experiences were in some ways anomalous and that led to much doubt. I went through a long period where I did not want to read anything about spiritual development, meditating all the while, but just not interested in hearing about or discussing it. Also run-of-the-mill TM discussions can be incredibly boring. Tell me about it. :-) At any point in a spiritual
[FairfieldLife] Re: How the deluded see the world....
OMFG get a clue, next time please keep your intellectual vomit to yourselves no one other than my deluded Aunt Share even pays attention to your bullshit. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Do you realize Grandpa Xeno how psychopathically deranged your experiences sound? You are too alienated emotionally, psychologically - god I felt so sick reading your vomit. On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: Over the years I've been on this forum, I have gradually ceased to believe that there is a universally applicable scheme for the development of enlightenment, such that if someone doesn't have *this* experience or does have *that* experience, it means they are (or are not) enlightened. Some experiences (or lack of same) may be more common than others, but you can't make absolute, across-the-board rules that apply to all individuals without exception, any more than you can do it with the experience of falling in love. The uniqueness of first-person ontology remains just that. My opinion, anyway. [to Dr Dumbass] Not what I meant by scheme. I meant something like Maharishi's Seven States of Consciousness--an outline, format, a schedule, a list of symptoms. First-person ontology is the thing that enlightenment gets rid of, I question this and every other statement you've made in this post that you apply across the board, as opposed to describing your own experience. I am describing my own experience. That is all I have. There is just experience. Not experiences, with an 's', but experience, singular. Experience*s* are like sub directories or folders on a computer. It is not uncommon these days, others on this forum certainly seem to be experiencing something similar. There are a number of people in Fairfield having this kind of experience. And, I am confident, many others in all walks of life having these experiences. It is in the air. It is not just a matter of TM, there are lots of groups and people bent on awakening and succeeding. I say these things across the board because that is the way I experience these things and there is some support in the environment for this way of describing human experience in long term meditators. None of this is special with me. You have every prerogative to question (although you have not actually questioned anything above, you have only stated that you question it). Mapping out benchmarks for spiritual development is a minefield because as you said, 'I think there are likely many exceptions and anomalies', so there are people who are not going to fit the mold. My outline using the terms M used is just one way one could try to map general categories of experience. For example, Charles Manson shows a number of characteristics of unity if we examine his statements, but he is also insane, a psychopath, and lacks certain characteristics that a presumably normal person would have, so he would be a significant outlier in any scheme that purports to categorise enlightenment benchmarks. I have a collection of Classical music recordings. I always have trouble trying to shelf them in some coherent way. My system here is generally by time period and the composer's name, using the date of death as a marker within a time period and beyond that I can remember where most composers lie on the time line. I think M's scheme for enlightenment is workable for many people, it is more detailed than some schemes, but in the end any scheme turns out to be nonsense, but it has applicability for giving one a bearing while on the path. If a person's experience is anomalous, a scheme will appear to be wrong to that person. In retrospect a scheme might even seem more on point than when one was on the path, because when you are on the path, you do not really know what you are headed for, or even where you are, and a benchmark isn't a specific experience, it is an general category of experience so making a mistake in interpreting what is going on is certainly a reasonable assumption. Even the belief in a scheme might be useful just to keep you going. My experiences were in some ways anomalous and that led to much doubt. I went through a long period where I did not want to read anything about spiritual development, meditating all the while, but just not interested in hearing about or discussing it. Also run-of-the-mill TM discussions can be incredibly boring. At any point in a spiritual path all one really needs is information that applies directly to what one's experience or experiences are just at that time, and not any other drivel; it does not always
[FairfieldLife] Re: Question about Amma
That reminds me, the next time you, or someone else goes, can you PA-LEEZE pick me up one of those, Don't F*ck With AMMA, t-shirts? The one where she has dreads, and is posing with the AK-47. Size XL, and in dark blue if they have it. I think they are a fifty dollar donation. Thanks! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: I know some of you have done some Amma stuff there in Iowa and elsewhere. I wonder what if anything you got from these events and did you feel what you got was directly from Amma herself or from the group consciousness itself of everyone there? I've twice gone to see Ammachi. All I got from the experience, both times, was delicious Indian food and wasted time.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@... wrote: We were all born in Kali Yuga, which means none of us had what it took to get enlightened for the three previous yugas. Yep, toads. All of us. Seriously, is it any wonder that we ended up HOPPING as our spiritual practice? OK, I get that all of this is a joke, but it is important IMO to remember that Kali Yuga does not exist. It's a made-up human term for a made- up division of time that does not and has never existed. That said, and to continue with your joke, I noticed that no one ever really dealt with the actual *issue* I brought up about whether the Rish actually had any sexual charisma or even attractiveness to explain how he managed to get a few women to have sex with him. People avoided that issue like the plague, playing shoot the messenger instead, like always. So I'll piggyback (or frogback) off Edg's joke to pass along the words of at least three TM women who, even though still part of the TMO, *weren't* afraid to deal with the issue. All three described the idea of having sex with Maharishi using the exact same same words: Have sex with that squat little toad? E. Appropriate somehow that the spiritual practice he brought to the world was hopping like a frog. :-) As for the issue of his attractiveness or non-, any women here who had sexual fantasies about Maharishi (requited or unrequited) are invited to share them with us to provide a counterpoint.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Asking Bhairitu for Advise Creating ME-subfolder in Thunderbird
This message and the Post Count which has your username should show up. One could get even fancier and have it skip the Post Count too. Reading via email is vastly superior to reading FFL on the web due to all the options one can have. You just can't add a picture though. On 08/25/2013 10:40 AM, merudanda wrote: Thanks a lot .What a clear voice in this noise -what a light in the darkness..=D Created sub-folder in my FFL by email-account- found filter option--everything ready to be fed Its a little very late in the night- so will you update in the morning . May I ask you (and /or someone from FFL with a golden heart and understanding for a ancient-senile-one -on-mount meru) to send merudanda a test-message ? Thanks --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: And just to make sure your message was a little unclear if you are getting FFL by email anyway. If you are not seeing any FFL posts come in by email in the Inbox then make sure you are subscribed via email to FFL. Check your member settings to have posts send via email. If they still don't come in then check your email settings on your email account such as if you get your email via a Yahoo or Gmail account. Sometimes those will filter out FairfieldLife as spam. On 08/25/2013 02:45 AM, merudanda wrote: PLEASE Bhairitu I did install Thunderbird but still do have trouble getting hold on posting addressed to me.Missing quite a lot or found about it too late to answer. How do I filter that out. Could it be because being quite often in Europe and Far-Middle-Near-(whatever)East and therefore changing IP.? But on the other hand TurquoiseB -being in Europe,too-does has a functioning filter installed . Can you give me a hand here,please.May be there are other here at FFL with the same problem. Thanks in advance --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Yup, I find a lot of the chatter here boring. Like Rick, I have a filter that copies any message that addresses me to a sub folder on Thunderbird.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post
--- Duveyoung no_reply@... wrote: We were all born in Kali Yuga, which means none of us had what it took to get enlightened for the three previous yugas. Yep, toads. All of us. Seriously, is it any wonder that we ended up HOPPING as our spiritual practice? Edg Good to see you here,Duvey. The concept of Yugas is a symbolic, allegorical, figurative representation of the Cyclical nature of the Universe and the ecosystem itself. Day becomes night, Summer becomes winter, periodic ice ages come and go, even the brightness of the sun seems to occilate in cycles. Life forms grow, reproduce, die and the cycle continues for generations. Your cells eat, digest, take in energy, eliminate waste matter and the cycle continues. This cyclical aspect of Nature is represented in the Yuga concept. Don't take it literaly. As Barry points out the actual 'Kali Yuga' is just a myth. --- seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: You got what you deserved Edg. How'z come you weren't born during Ramana Maharishi's time? Howz come that? --- Duveyoung wrote: How'z'come it is that we always ask, Why did Maharishi have sex? instead of: Why in the fuck are we such spiritual toads that he's all we could muster up for a guru? --- turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Gotta agree with Steve on this one, Edg. TMers got pretty much what they deserved, because they showed all the discrimination of this woman, when utilizing the services of a Ghostbuster. And with the same result: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/24/ghostbuster-exorcism-with-penis\ _n_3809865.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/24/ghostbuster-exorcism-with-peni\ s_n_3809865.html Who ya gonna call? :-) OK, I get that all of this is a joke, but it is important IMO to remember that Kali Yuga does not exist. It's a made-up human term for a made- up division of time that does not and has never existed. That said, and to continue with your joke, I noticed that no one ever really dealt with the actual *issue* I brought up about whether the Rish actually had any sexual charisma or even attractiveness to explain how he managed to get a few women to have sex with him. People avoided that issue like the plague, playing shoot the messenger instead, like always. So I'll piggyback (or frogback) off Edg's joke to pass along the words of at least three TM women who, even though still part of the TMO, *weren't* afraid to deal with the issue. All three described the idea of having sex with Maharishi using the exact same same words: Have sex with that squat little toad? E. Appropriate somehow that the spiritual practice he brought to the world was hopping like a frog. :-) As for the issue of his attractiveness or non-, any women here who had sexual fantasies about Maharishi (requited or unrequited) are invited to share them with us to provide a counterpoint.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Chilling
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, azgrey no_reply@ wrote: I am afraid one of my worst plot point fears is about to be reified. I just love how you managed to sneak the word reified into a discussion group that's been discussing human beings' tendency to project their beliefs onto the outside world, so much so that they actually consider their perceptions real. :-) Without giving anything away the principles on the show have all said the show gets much much darker, as each season has. Skyler is now firmly on Team Walt ostensibly for the good of the family. Walt Jr/Flynn has been absent since asking permission to go to Louis's and stay out late...Junior smoking the blue would crush Sky and change it all up, again. That would certainly be a plot twist worthy of these writers, yes. What I'm noticing is that the writers seem to be closing the circle on the title of their show. *Everyone* seems to be breaking bad now. Walt's a done deal, and so was Skyler once she found out what he'd been up to and concealed it. But now Hank is so OBSESSED with getting Walt that he's willing to break the law *to* get him. And Marie is willing to grab her sister's baby and steal him. So your plot point fear might be right on, with Junior joining the BB crowd soon. Interestingly, the only person so far displaying any remorse over any of his actions is Jesse. ALL of the others are so lost in a narcissistic fog that they cannot *conceive* of their actions as being anything but right. To echo your chosen title for this thread, how fuckin' chilling was it to see the video that Walt makes, after having seen him record the first sentence of it, but then having to wait for the rest of it through 7 minutes of another face-to-face confrontation with Hank. That one surprised even me, and I've foreseen some of the evilnessitude of which Walt has been capable before. Chilling really IS the only word. On another front, it was pretty obvious that the Jesse shit would hit the fan sooner or later, and it seems that it's sooner. This should be interesting...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How the deluded see the world....
Xeno and turq, great discussion here and 2 points: first, my understanding of neti neti is that it's a phase on the spiritual path when one is subtly recognizing what enlightenment is NOT in terms of experience rather than theories as presented below. This phase is followed by another which could be characterized by the words: and this also, and this also. Secondly, I personally find Maharishi's teaching great exactly because it is so simple and allows for wide variety of experience. As a map it gives, IMO, great overall directions which frees up one's attention and allows a person to enjoy the scenery all along the way. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 3:36 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: How the deluded see the world --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: I am describing my own experience. That is all I have. snip An argument that will be lost on many here. The *most* common description of long-term TMers one encounters out in the larger spiritual marketplace is Stuck in their heads. They've been given SO many maps that they have lost touch with the fact that at best they were crude representations of a territory, and in most cases one they've never walked. Bear in mind that when dealing with enlightenment, one is ultimately not dealing with rational discourse, but dealing with a quality of life that underlies, so to speak, everything else in experience, one attempts to align with that, but one is not always able to apply the intellect to a situation because intellect is a subset of experience, kind of in its own little compartment; it handles attempting to organise verbal representations a wider world of experience, but is not that experience, it's a filter for that experience, which means something is cut out or blocked when it is use. Yup. What has often fascinated me is the number of supposed seekers who use intellectual understanding to *block* the very experience they're seeking. As far as I can tell, the more strongly people believe that they know what enlightenment is, the less likely they are to ever experience it. If you fail to align with the wider experience, you try again, and again. You are not polishing your intellect - it might improve, or even get worse. You are polishing something you cannot even see, kind of like a seagull riding the currents of the air, learning to gracefully move on a bedrock of mystery. I would characterize what you are describing more in terms of neti neti -- trying on different theories and then discarding them, one after another. snip
[FairfieldLife] Re: Nidal Hassan Is Found Guilty
Hitler and Mao were both very popular. Their ideas were accepted by most of their people, except, of course, their scapegoats. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote: It would be best not to hold the masses guilty, for who props up a dictator, is too busy earning a way to put food on their tables. Look at any strangling polices of any nation, and there one will find the birth of a dictator brought about by greed, power and a few. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Possibly, but once a country acts in such a barbaric way, it is very difficult to then ask for fairness from others. I knew a German guy who lived through it as a child, and he said that after the war, finding a dead dog to eat in the rubble was a real treat. He also mentioned trying to go back to work in Germany in the '60's as a dock worker, and said much of the Nazi mentality was still present. This is all hearsay, though he was not someone I would have doubted. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Well, they really *did* lean over the edge of civilization a tad too far, with the whole holocaust/genocide thingie...Fair or not, it tends to leave a really bad first impression with others. That's no excuse for the indoctrination of generations of young Germans who had nothing to do with Nazi-Germany. . Yes, it is a shame there has to be repercussions for bad actions but ugly architecture and the lack of a German national anthem sung in the halls of academia are hardly on the scale of millions of people gassed, tortured and roasted alive. Shit happens and war never seems to make anybody feel better but I'll take the rape of my architecture over the rape of my body. I can always tear down the offending structure later. You can ?
[FairfieldLife] A day in the life of an SRB
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[FairfieldLife] Re: How the deluded see the world....
but but but Ravi, Xeno wrote this in reply to your aunt Judy! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: OMFG get a clue, next time please keep your intellectual vomit to yourselves no one other than my deluded Aunt Share even pays attention to your bullshit. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Do you realize Grandpa Xeno how psychopathically deranged your experiences sound? You are too alienated emotionally, psychologically - god I felt so sick reading your vomit. On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: Over the years I've been on this forum, I have gradually ceased to believe that there is a universally applicable scheme for the development of enlightenment, such that if someone doesn't have *this* experience or does have *that* experience, it means they are (or are not) enlightened. Some experiences (or lack of same) may be more common than others, but you can't make absolute, across-the-board rules that apply to all individuals without exception, any more than you can do it with the experience of falling in love. The uniqueness of first-person ontology remains just that. My opinion, anyway. [to Dr Dumbass] Not what I meant by scheme. I meant something like Maharishi's Seven States of Consciousness--an outline, format, a schedule, a list of symptoms. First-person ontology is the thing that enlightenment gets rid of, I question this and every other statement you've made in this post that you apply across the board, as opposed to describing your own experience. I am describing my own experience. That is all I have. There is just experience. Not experiences, with an 's', but experience, singular. Experience*s* are like sub directories or folders on a computer. It is not uncommon these days, others on this forum certainly seem to be experiencing something similar. There are a number of people in Fairfield having this kind of experience. And, I am confident, many others in all walks of life having these experiences. It is in the air. It is not just a matter of TM, there are lots of groups and people bent on awakening and succeeding. I say these things across the board because that is the way I experience these things and there is some support in the environment for this way of describing human experience in long term meditators. None of this is special with me. You have every prerogative to question (although you have not actually questioned anything above, you have only stated that you question it). Mapping out benchmarks for spiritual development is a minefield because as you said, 'I think there are likely many exceptions and anomalies', so there are people who are not going to fit the mold. My outline using the terms M used is just one way one could try to map general categories of experience. For example, Charles Manson shows a number of characteristics of unity if we examine his statements, but he is also insane, a psychopath, and lacks certain characteristics that a presumably normal person would have, so he would be a significant outlier in any scheme that purports to categorise enlightenment benchmarks. I have a collection of Classical music recordings. I always have trouble trying to shelf them in some coherent way. My system here is generally by time period and the composer's name, using the date of death as a marker within a time period and beyond that I can remember where most composers lie on the time line. I think M's scheme for enlightenment is workable for many people, it is more detailed than some schemes, but in the end any scheme turns out to be nonsense, but it has applicability for giving one a bearing while on the path. If a person's experience is anomalous, a scheme will appear to be wrong to that person. In retrospect a scheme might even seem more on point than when one was on the path, because when you are on the path, you do not really know what you are headed for, or even where you are, and a benchmark isn't a specific experience, it is an general category of experience so making a mistake in interpreting what is going on is certainly a reasonable assumption. Even the belief in a scheme might be useful just to keep you going. My experiences were in some ways anomalous and that led to much doubt. I went through a long period where I did not want to read anything about spiritual development, meditating all the while, but just not interested in hearing about or
[FairfieldLife] Eliminating the Ad hominem Post-count on FFL lets return to but35 posts per week
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wleed3 WLeed3@... wrote: I am leaving if the postings are not reduced much is vitriol Yep, the name-calling and the ad hominem certainly are the low forms of argument here and should certainly be outlawed in civil society and on all Yahoo groups as reprehensible abuse. Yes, by stark contrast certainly the best writing and exchange on FFL was in a time when the post count was limited to 35 per week. This list cries out for a limit to abuse and a strong hand of moderation. A strict speed limit of 35 posts per week. -Buck In a message dated 08/23/13 16:55:50 Eastern Daylight Time, dhamiltony2k5@... writes: Dear Rick, the post-count experiment as a noble hope is clearly failing. The lowest form of writing and argument evidently dominates FFL with their diluting flood of the post-count of FFL. As an elder of the FFL community here I implore you Rick, please save our FFL from the lowest form of argument on FFL, the Ad hominem . These people's abuse of the list and community here with the Ad hominem is too much. Something radical, something different needs to be done to save FFL as a spiritual and free place. Sincerely, -Buck To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] EliminatingAd hominem Post-count on FFL lets return ..YES!
I fully agree Bill in Buffalo In a message dated 8/26/2013 8:01:09 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com writes: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wleed3 WLeed3@... wrote: I am leaving if the postings are not reduced much is vitriol Yep, the name-calling and the ad hominem certainly are the low forms of argument here and should certainly be outlawed in civil society and on all Yahoo groups as reprehensible abuse. Yes, by stark contrast certainly the best writing and exchange on FFL was in a time when the post count was limited to 35 per week. This list cries out for a limit to abuse and a strong hand of moderation. A strict speed limit of 35 posts per week. -Buck In a message dated 08/23/13 16:55:50 Eastern Daylight Time, dhamiltony2k5@... writes: Dear Rick, the post-count experiment as a noble hope is clearly failing. The lowest form of writing and argument evidently dominates FFL with their diluting flood of the post-count of FFL. As an elder of the FFL community here I implore you Rick, please save our FFL from the lowest form of argument on FFL, the Ad hominem . These people's abuse of the list and community here with the Ad hominem is too much. Something radical, something different needs to be done to save FFL as a spiritual and free place. Sincerely, -Buck To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Eliminating the Ad hominem Post-count on FFL lets return to but35 posts per week
But Buck, you all had that before and it was abolished! Why? From: Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 7:01 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Eliminating the Ad hominem Post-count on FFL lets return to but35 posts per week --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wleed3 WLeed3@... wrote: I am leaving if the postings are not reduced much is vitriol Yep, the name-calling and the ad hominem certainly are the low forms of argument here and should certainly be outlawed in civil society and on all Yahoo groups as reprehensible abuse. Yes, by stark contrast certainly the best writing and exchange on FFL was in a time when the post count was limited to 35 per week. This list cries out for a limit to abuse and a strong hand of moderation. A strict speed limit of 35 posts per week. -Buck In a message dated 08/23/13 16:55:50 Eastern Daylight Time, dhamiltony2k5@... writes: Dear Rick, the post-count experiment as a noble hope is clearly failing. The lowest form of writing and argument evidently dominates FFL with their diluting flood of the post-count of FFL. As an elder of the FFL community here I implore you Rick, please save our FFL from the lowest form of argument on FFL, the Ad hominem . These people's abuse of the list and community here with the Ad hominem is too much. Something radical, something different needs to be done to save FFL as a spiritual and free place. Sincerely, -Buck To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: How the return of Christ would really be greeted
Funny, except missing maybe the most important question of all: any Fukoshima water in that fish? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: [https://sphotos-a-mad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/q71/1240115_43586588985\ 5421_1059183013_n.jpg]
[FairfieldLife] Re: EliminatingAd hominem Post-count on FFL lets return ..YES!
I will not vote one way or another on this, but I do think that many people here are missing out on the opportunity for creativity and improved writing offered by posting limits. It doesn't have to be seen as a gag order, except by those who by now most agree need to be gagged. It can be seen as a chance to step back and THINK before typing, and especially before pressing that SEND button. On another forum I once haunted, they too were afflicted by a bunch of motormouths who wouldn't or couldn't shut up. There wasn't much flaming or ad hominem on that forum, but there wasn't much intelligent thought going on, either. So the moderator suggested an experiment. It was unenforced, but the posters there, being actual spiritual seekers as opposed to spiritual poseurs like we have here, all agreed to it, and undertook it for the fun of it, and the challenge. There was, in fact, a posting limit. For a period of two months, everyone on the forum was limited to only ONE post per day. And it had to be in the form of a haiku. Seventeen syllables. No more, no less. And it was WONDERFUL. Everyone rose to the challenge, and produced some remarkable poetry, insights, and humor. To this day (years later) many people on this forum still follow the One haiku per day rule, because they came to like it so much. OK, I *know* that it could never work here. Many of our motormouths and trashmouths couldn't write a haiku if you gave them 17,000 syllables to work with. But like Maharishi's heaven on earth it's a pleasant fiction to imagine, even for a moment... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WLeed3@... wrote: I fully agree Bill in Buffalo In a message dated 8/26/2013 8:01:09 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, dhamiltony2k5@... writes: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wleed3 WLeed3@ wrote: I am leaving if the postings are not reduced much is vitriol Yep, the name-calling and the ad hominem certainly are the low forms of argument here and should certainly be outlawed in civil society and on all Yahoo groups as reprehensible abuse. Yes, by stark contrast certainly the best writing and exchange on FFL was in a time when the post count was limited to 35 per week. This list cries out for a limit to abuse and a strong hand of moderation. A strict speed limit of 35 posts per week. -Buck
[FairfieldLife] Re: EliminatingAd hominem Post-count on FFL lets return ..YES!
Switch forums then, you control freak. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: I will not vote one way or another on this, but I do think that many people here are missing out on the opportunity for creativity and improved writing offered by posting limits. It doesn't have to be seen as a gag order, except by those who by now most agree need to be gagged. It can be seen as a chance to step back and THINK before typing, and especially before pressing that SEND button. On another forum I once haunted, they too were afflicted by a bunch of motormouths who wouldn't or couldn't shut up. There wasn't much flaming or ad hominem on that forum, but there wasn't much intelligent thought going on, either. So the moderator suggested an experiment. It was unenforced, but the posters there, being actual spiritual seekers as opposed to spiritual poseurs like we have here, all agreed to it, and undertook it for the fun of it, and the challenge. There was, in fact, a posting limit. For a period of two months, everyone on the forum was limited to only ONE post per day. And it had to be in the form of a haiku. Seventeen syllables. No more, no less. And it was WONDERFUL. Everyone rose to the challenge, and produced some remarkable poetry, insights, and humor. To this day (years later) many people on this forum still follow the One haiku per day rule, because they came to like it so much. OK, I *know* that it could never work here. Many of our motormouths and trashmouths couldn't write a haiku if you gave them 17,000 syllables to work with. But like Maharishi's heaven on earth it's a pleasant fiction to imagine, even for a moment... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WLeed3@ wrote: I fully agree Bill in Buffalo In a message dated 8/26/2013 8:01:09 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, dhamiltony2k5@ writes: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wleed3 WLeed3@ wrote: I am leaving if the postings are not reduced much is vitriol Yep, the name-calling and the ad hominem certainly are the low forms of argument here and should certainly be outlawed in civil society and on all Yahoo groups as reprehensible abuse. Yes, by stark contrast certainly the best writing and exchange on FFL was in a time when the post count was limited to 35 per week. This list cries out for a limit to abuse and a strong hand of moderation. A strict speed limit of 35 posts per week. -Buck
[FairfieldLife] Re: Chilling
Damn, Girl! You sure watch a lot of soap operas! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, azgrey no_reply@ wrote: I am afraid one of my worst plot point fears is about to be reified. I just love how you managed to sneak the word reified into a discussion group that's been discussing human beings' tendency to project their beliefs onto the outside world, so much so that they actually consider their perceptions real. :-) Without giving anything away the principles on the show have all said the show gets much much darker, as each season has. Skyler is now firmly on Team Walt ostensibly for the good of the family. Walt Jr/Flynn has been absent since asking permission to go to Louis's and stay out late...Junior smoking the blue would crush Sky and change it all up, again. That would certainly be a plot twist worthy of these writers, yes. What I'm noticing is that the writers seem to be closing the circle on the title of their show. *Everyone* seems to be breaking bad now. Walt's a done deal, and so was Skyler once she found out what he'd been up to and concealed it. But now Hank is so OBSESSED with getting Walt that he's willing to break the law *to* get him. And Marie is willing to grab her sister's baby and steal him. So your plot point fear might be right on, with Junior joining the BB crowd soon. Interestingly, the only person so far displaying any remorse over any of his actions is Jesse. ALL of the others are so lost in a narcissistic fog that they cannot *conceive* of their actions as being anything but right. To echo your chosen title for this thread, how fuckin' chilling was it to see the video that Walt makes, after having seen him record the first sentence of it, but then having to wait for the rest of it through 7 minutes of another face-to-face confrontation with Hank. That one surprised even me, and I've foreseen some of the evilnessitude of which Walt has been capable before. Chilling really IS the only word. On another front, it was pretty obvious that the Jesse shit would hit the fan sooner or later, and it seems that it's sooner. This should be interesting...
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post
Sorry for the late reply. Been driving half way across the country for the last 2 days. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Very nice post. THIS is what Fairfield Life could be if so many weren't so committed to lowering it to their level. That said, I only have one comment, and I hope you understand that this is for fun, since we've discussed our differences of opinion on the subject of free will in the past... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wrote: So, being able to enlighten someone or teach them about it is a pretty big gift, and so I do respect MMY - warts and all. IF, as you suggest, there is no free will, and we're just flowing along with Nature, circling the drain of ITS intention, not ours, why would an ostensible teacher of enlightenment be any more special than any other being, or what they teach a gift? I mean, if there is no free will, and we're all just doing what Nature intends, then how could anything such a teacher of enlightenment do or say *affect* us in any way? According to the No Free Will theory, someone or something ELSE is running things. Nothing that *anyone* we ever meet should be able to change that Plan, or Flow, or whatever you choose to call it. Enlightened, schmightened. If there is No Free Will, and no one has the ABILITY to change what is going to happen to them (because Nature is running all of that shit), then how can any teaching by any supposed teacher of enlightenment be seen as having been instrumental in any of his/her students realizing enlightenment? Nature handles that shit, according to your theory. Not the seeker, and not the teacher. IF your theory is correct, and there is No Free Will, there is simply no possibile way to affect one's own future. It wouldn't matter how many teachers of enlightenment you met; Nature controls whether you're going to realize your own enlight- enment...not the teachers, and not you. :-) Just got back from 2 days of road trip driving, so apologe for not responding earlier. Yes we have had this discussion. As you probaby know, Sam Harris can explain it all rather well. I don't really have an answer to your points. When I have had those Experiences, I get that it all just happens. I cannot explain what that means for the times I am not in That Experience, except to say we think we are controlling things, but our thoughts are due to seeing only a small part of the picture. As far as teachers and enlightenment, it all happens. The teacher could affect your state of consciousness if that is the inevitable unfolding of action. If not, they won't affect you. Nature does it all. I don't think of Nature as a thinking and planning entity. Just the principles that direct the flow of events. Once things in the cosmos get started (big bang?) then my guess is that the Unfolding begins, and each event sets up the next event, like dominoes. From the unenlightened individual's perspective, they are standing a few feet in front of the line of dominoes as they fall, and waving their arms about and thinking that they are causing the toppling. But really it is all going to happen anyway.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post
If you are talking about Strontium-90 in the milk, this has been known about for the last 50 years. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Jason, what makes me take the concept of Kali Yuga literally is the fact that truth about our world often appears mainly or only in novels and movies. An example is the Nick Nolte, Julia Roberts movie I Love Trouble that was all about cancer producing chemicals in milk. BEFORE this was well known! And this is reportedly an aspect of Kali Yuga, that truth is presented as fiction. Also the reverse, falsehood is presented as truth, such as we see too often in politics. From: Jason jedi_spock@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 5:12 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post  --- Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: We were all born in Kali Yuga, which means none of us had what it took to get enlightened for the three previous yugas. Yep, toads. All of us. Seriously, is it any wonder that we ended up HOPPING as our spiritual practice? Edg Good to see you here,Duvey. The concept of Yugas is a symbolic, allegorical, figurative representation of the Cyclical nature of the Universe and the ecosystem itself. Day becomes night, Summer becomes winter, periodic ice ages come and go, even the brightness of the sun seems to occilate in cycles. Life forms grow, reproduce, die and the cycle continues for generations. Your cells eat, digest, take in energy, eliminate waste matter and the cycle continues. This cyclical aspect of Nature is represented in the Yuga concept. Don't take it literaly. As Barry points out the actual 'Kali Yuga' is just a myth. --- seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: You got what you deserved Edg. How'z come you weren't born during Ramana Maharishi's time? Howz come that? --- Duveyoung wrote: How'z'come it is that we always ask, Why did Maharishi have sex? instead of: Why in the fuck are we such spiritual toads that he's all we could muster up for a guru? --- turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Gotta agree with Steve on this one, Edg. TMers got pretty much what they deserved, because they showed all the discrimination of this woman, when utilizing the services of a Ghostbuster. And with the same result: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/24/ghostbuster-exorcism-with-penis\ _n_3809865.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/24/ghostbuster-exorcism-with-peni\ s_n_3809865.html Who ya gonna call? :-) OK, I get that all of this is a joke, but it is important IMO to remember that Kali Yuga does not exist. It's a made-up human term for a made- up division of time that does not and has never existed. That said, and to continue with your joke, I noticed that no one ever really dealt with the actual *issue* I brought up about whether the Rish actually had any sexual charisma or even attractiveness to explain how he managed to get a few women to have sex with him. People avoided that issue like the plague, playing shoot the messenger instead, like always. So I'll piggyback (or frogback) off Edg's joke to pass along the words of at least three TM women who, even though still part of the TMO, *weren't* afraid to deal with the issue. All three described the idea of having sex with Maharishi using the exact same same words: Have sex with that squat little toad? E. Appropriate somehow that the spiritual practice he brought to the world was hopping like a frog. :-) As for the issue of his attractiveness or non-, any women here who had sexual fantasies about Maharishi (requited or unrequited) are invited to share them with us to provide a counterpoint.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Asking Bhairitu for Advise Creating ME-subfolder in Thunderbird
He's like John McCain in the Die Hard series, or Indiana Jones, against the Nazis! Or the car, in, My Mother, The Car. Impressive! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: All of this blather of Barry's here just goes to show that he is missing out on the fact that, because he filters out all the posters that fulfill his criteria below, there are about 10 posts per week for him to read and his world shrinks by the moment. But more importantly, he has missed all the loving, adoring, complimentary posting his former enemies have recently been engaging in. Now Barry is isolated in his imaginary world of being the last real and relevant man standing and all this time he could have realized the world loves him, if only he'd remove that filter. The human condition is tragic and I weep for the fact that this suffering of his is so unnecessary. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@ wrote: PLEASE Bhairitu I did install Thunderbird but still do have trouble getting hold on posting addressed to me.Missing quite a lot or found about it too late to answer. How do I filter that out. Could it be because being quite often in Europe and Far-Middle-Near-(whatever)East and therefore changing IP.? But on the other hand TurquoiseB -being in Europe,too-does has a functioning filter installed. My filter is manual, since I read FFL on the Yahoo Web page. I just scan the list of Message View, run them through my wetware filter, and skip any posts sent by people who fail the Life's too short to deal with pissants test. :-) If you have trouble with getting an email client working for you, someone else will have to be your customer service rep. BTW, to get on my Don't Bother With List, one has to have established a long history of 1) almost never having anything interesting to contribute, 2) attack- ing me (or anyone who dares to interface with me in a non-hostile manner), and 3) running the Narcissistic Personality Disorder You *have* to respond to every criticism I make of you and argue with me, because you just *have* to routine. In my book, #3 is the most egregious. That's not just a narcissism thang, it's an attention vampire thang. Best to cut them off at the pump and let them drain others who are still willing to be drained. From my point of view, this last couple of weeks not dealing with them or responding to them has been so pleasant that this policy is going to become a permanent one, not just for this Unlimited Blabbing month. I figure that will piss them off more than anything else could, so they'll redouble their attacks, but who really CARES what pissants say, eh? Good luck getting your email set up... Can you give me a hand here,please.May be there are other here at FFL with the same problem. Thanks in advance --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Yup, I find a lot of the chatter here boring. Like Rick, I have a filter that copies any message that addresses me to a sub folder on Thunderbird.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How the deluded see the world....
Your claim poses itself as generalizable and universally true and therefore negates itself as a false claim. But who needs objectivity in mere thought? Just another belief system ... no doubt. That is all that *anyone* has, or has had, in *any* era of human existence. The attempt to portray one's subjective experience as objective or universal or even as something to be desired or aspired to is IMO sheer narcissism. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: I am describing my own experience. That is all I have. That is all that *anyone* has, or has had, in *any* era of human existence. The attempt to portray one's subjective experience as objective or universal or even as something to be desired or aspired to is IMO sheer narcissism.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: snip I noticed that no one ever really dealt with the actual *issue* I brought up about whether the Rish actually had any sexual charisma or even attractiveness to explain how he managed to get a few women to have sex with him. People avoided that issue like the plague, playing shoot the messenger instead, like always. Actually, Barry, when the question the messenger asks is absurd, it gets laughed at. Any man in a position of power can get a few women to have sex with him. That's a no-brainer. The actual *issue* is that you aren't aware of that-- or mistakenly assume the rest of us aren't. *That* is what's so funny. So I'll piggyback (or frogback) off Edg's joke to pass along the words of at least three TM women who, even though still part of the TMO, *weren't* afraid to deal with the issue. Sorry, Bar, but nobody here is afraid to deal with the issue, regardless of what you'd like to believe. All three described the idea of having sex with Maharishi using the exact same same words: Have sex with that squat little toad? E. I think Barry is genuinely hoping this will make us all upset. Nope, wrong again, Barry. Just an editorial note: It takes a little thought to come up with words, even expressing the same thought, that could plausibly have been uttered by more than one woman. The ones above aren't them. Appropriate somehow that the spiritual practice he brought to the world was hopping like a frog. :-) Er, Barry, Edg already made that joke. It was sorta amusing when *he* made it. As for the issue of his attractiveness or non-, any women here who had sexual fantasies about Maharishi (requited or unrequited) are invited to share them with us to provide a counterpoint. Oh, is that what you were after when you asked all those other women? I guess some men get off on hearing women describe their sexual fantasies about other men. Sorry I don't have any fantasies about Maharishi to share with you.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: snip I noticed that no one ever really dealt with the actual *issue* I brought up about whether the Rish actually had any sexual charisma or even attractiveness to explain how he managed to get a few women to have sex with him. People avoided that issue like the plague, playing shoot the messenger instead, like always. Actually, Barry, when the question the messenger asks is absurd, it gets laughed at. Any man in a position of power can get a few women to have sex with him. That's a no-brainer. The actual *issue* is that you aren't aware of that-- or mistakenly assume the rest of us aren't. *That* is what's so funny. So I'll piggyback (or frogback) off Edg's joke to pass along the words of at least three TM women who, even though still part of the TMO, *weren't* afraid to deal with the issue. Sorry, Bar, but nobody here is afraid to deal with the issue, regardless of what you'd like to believe. All three described the idea of having sex with Maharishi using the exact same same words: Have sex with that squat little toad? E. I think Barry is genuinely hoping this will make us all upset. Nope, wrong again, Barry. Just an editorial note: It takes a little thought to come up with words, even expressing the same thought, that could plausibly have been uttered by more than one woman. The ones above aren't them. Appropriate somehow that the spiritual practice he brought to the world was hopping like a frog. :-) Er, Barry, Edg already made that joke. It was sorta amusing when *he* made it. As for the issue of his attractiveness or non-, any women here who had sexual fantasies about Maharishi (requited or unrequited) are invited to share them with us to provide a counterpoint. Oh, is that what you were after when you asked all those other women? I guess some men get off on hearing women describe their sexual fantasies about other men. Sorry I don't have any fantasies about Maharishi to share with you.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote: Sorry for the late reply. Been driving half way across the country for the last 2 days. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Very nice post. THIS is what Fairfield Life could be if so many weren't so committed to lowering it to their level. That said, I only have one comment, and I hope you understand that this is for fun, since we've discussed our differences of opinion on the subject of free will in the past... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wrote: So, being able to enlighten someone or teach them about it is a pretty big gift, and so I do respect MMY - warts and all. IF, as you suggest, there is no free will, and we're just flowing along with Nature, circling the drain of ITS intention, not ours, why would an ostensible teacher of enlightenment be any more special than any other being, or what they teach a gift? I mean, if there is no free will, and we're all just doing what Nature intends, then how could anything such a teacher of enlightenment do or say *affect* us in any way? According to the No Free Will theory, someone or something ELSE is running things. Nothing that *anyone* we ever meet should be able to change that Plan, or Flow, or whatever you choose to call it. Enlightened, schmightened. If there is No Free Will, and no one has the ABILITY to change what is going to happen to them (because Nature is running all of that shit), then how can any teaching by any supposed teacher of enlightenment be seen as having been instrumental in any of his/her students realizing enlightenment? Nature handles that shit, according to your theory. Not the seeker, and not the teacher. IF your theory is correct, and there is No Free Will, there is simply no possible way to affect one's own future. It wouldn't matter how many teachers of enlightenment you met; Nature controls whether you're going to realize your own enlightenment...not the teachers, and not you. :-) Just got back from 2 days of road trip driving, so apologe for not responding earlier. No apologies necessary. I've been on a bit of a Road Trip myself. Sometimes it clarifies the mind. Heck, I once wrote a whole book called Road Trip Mind. :-) Yes we have had this discussion. As you probaby know, Sam Harris can explain it all rather well. I have no doubt that he can. I, however, am not looking for explanations. I get off more on just groovin' behind the mystery of it all. I don't really have an answer to your points. See above. Good. :-) When I have had those Experiences, I get that it all just happens. I cannot explain what that means for the times I am not in That Experience, except to say we think we are controlling things, but our thoughts are due to seeing only a small part of the picture. Your experience -- and your interpretation of it -- are your own, and I would not for a moment dispute either. Please don't get me wrong...it is NOT that I argue with such It all seems to be happening moments, because I've had them myself. It's just that 1) I dispute that these moments mean anything in particular about the nature of the universe we live in, 2) I do not assign these experiences any position in a hierarchy of better/best or higher/lower, and 3) I have an alter- nate view of my own similar experiences. First, it should be made clear that it's NOT just spiritual seekers who have such It all seems to be happening on its own experiences, As I remember, scientists in labs have been able to *invoke* such experiences just by tickling a certain area of the brain. So the issue for me is NOT whether people can have the perception that everything is happening without any intention on their part, but whether those perceptions reflect any kind of objective reality. I see such moments (based on my experience of them) more in Taoist terms. They are moments of being in the flow of life. That has happened many times for me in the past, and continues to in the present. But that does NOT tempt me to believe that there is no free will. I see the universe as a perfect interaction of two forces -- karma and free will. Karma is the result of physical and mental actions in the past. There is no good/bad, moral/immoral, or right/wrong in my view of karma, just pure reaction of the physical universe and other sentient beings to previous actions. But I do not see these reactions as in any way *binding*. You may have a tendency as the result of past actions to act in a certain way, but YOU DON'T HAVE TO. At any moment you can transcend these influences from the past and make a decision in the present NOT to follow the old, boring path. You can pick a new one. It might turn out to be boring, too, but your free will gives you the opportunity to choose it. As I see it, there can be no *concept*
[FairfieldLife] Was Voldemort a rapist like Freddy? [was Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post]
I try to think of novel ways to address Voldemort's mind-loops. Reminding him that his most recent experience was with a purported rapist, and not Maharishi, often works. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Yeah, too bad Maharishi only had sex with those whom he loved. He probably should have just raped the women at gunpoint, like Freddy Lenz, your Guru, did. Great suggestion, Voldemort! Yes, if a woman won't have sex with me, I'll play with a gun to convince her. If only you could have shared this priceless wisdom with Maharishi before he passed away. Do you ever follow Freddy's example with women, now? Just curious as you hung around with him quite a bit, even sitting in the coveted front seat of his car, whether or not you have also raped women like he did? No worries, I am not expecting an honest response, least of all from you. Dr D, what is going on here? Barry is not responsible for Freddie's behavior. Get a grip. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: We were all born in Kali Yuga, which means none of us had what it took to get enlightened for the three previous yugas. Yep, toads. All of us. Seriously, is it any wonder that we ended up HOPPING as our spiritual practice? OK, I get that all of this is a joke, but it is important IMO to remember that Kali Yuga does not exist. It's a made-up human term for a made- up division of time that does not and has never existed. That said, and to continue with your joke, I noticed that no one ever really dealt with the actual *issue* I brought up about whether the Rish actually had any sexual charisma or even attractiveness to explain how he managed to get a few women to have sex with him. People avoided that issue like the plague, playing shoot the messenger instead, like always. So I'll piggyback (or frogback) off Edg's joke to pass along the words of at least three TM women who, even though still part of the TMO, *weren't* afraid to deal with the issue. All three described the idea of having sex with Maharishi using the exact same same words: Have sex with that squat little toad? E. Appropriate somehow that the spiritual practice he brought to the world was hopping like a frog. :-) As for the issue of his attractiveness or non-, any women here who had sexual fantasies about Maharishi (requited or unrequited) are invited to share them with us to provide a counterpoint.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: Sorry for the late reply. Been driving half way across the country for the last 2 days. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Very nice post. THIS is what Fairfield Life could be if so many weren't so committed to lowering it to their level. That said, I only have one comment, and I hope you understand that this is for fun, since we've discussed our differences of opinion on the subject of free will in the past... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wrote: So, being able to enlighten someone or teach them about it is a pretty big gift, and so I do respect MMY - warts and all. IF, as you suggest, there is no free will, and we're just flowing along with Nature, circling the drain of ITS intention, not ours, why would an ostensible teacher of enlightenment be any more special than any other being, or what they teach a gift? I mean, if there is no free will, and we're all just doing what Nature intends, then how could anything such a teacher of enlightenment do or say *affect* us in any way? According to the No Free Will theory, someone or something ELSE is running things. Nothing that *anyone* we ever meet should be able to change that Plan, or Flow, or whatever you choose to call it. Enlightened, schmightened. If there is No Free Will, and no one has the ABILITY to change what is going to happen to them (because Nature is running all of that shit), then how can any teaching by any supposed teacher of enlightenment be seen as having been instrumental in any of his/her students realizing enlightenment? Nature handles that shit, according to your theory. Not the seeker, and not the teacher. IF your theory is correct, and there is No Free Will, there is simply no possible way to affect one's own future. It wouldn't matter how many teachers of enlightenment you met; Nature controls whether you're going to realize your own enlightenment...not the teachers, and not you. :-) Just got back from 2 days of road trip driving, so apologe for not responding earlier. No apologies necessary. I've been on a bit of a Road Trip myself. Sometimes it clarifies the mind. Heck, I once wrote a whole book called Road Trip Mind. :-) Yes we have had this discussion. As you probaby know, Sam Harris can explain it all rather well. I have no doubt that he can. I, however, am not looking for explanations. I get off more on just groovin' behind the mystery of it all. I don't really have an answer to your points. See above. Good. :-) When I have had those Experiences, I get that it all just happens. I cannot explain what that means for the times I am not in That Experience, except to say we think we are controlling things, but our thoughts are due to seeing only a small part of the picture. Your experience -- and your interpretation of it -- are your own, and I would not for a moment dispute either. Please don't get me wrong...it is NOT that I argue with such It all seems to be happening moments, because I've had them myself. It's just that 1) I dispute that these moments mean anything in particular about the nature of the universe we live in, 2) I do not assign these experiences any position in a hierarchy of better/best or higher/lower, and 3) I have an alter- nate view of my own similar experiences. I am kind of with you on your 3 points. I am not sure what those experiences really Mean - are they windows to a more real reality? To The Reality? Or maybe just another in the many types of states of awareness we have available to us. I also sometimes wonder if this Enlightenment is really any better than having a nice, secure strong ego. You know, the kind of comfortable in your own skin ego, that has a strong dose of compassion and a great sense of humor attached. And according to Xeno, Adyashanti and many others, when this process of getting awakened happens, it is not all fun and games at all - Sounds difficult and all. I guess the only good thing is that there is no one left to register that fear and anxiety. They are floating feelings. Anyway, you get my drift. In my own experiences - I do feel awfully wonderful during the happening moments and feel a huge sense of loss when they fade. First, it should be made clear that it's NOT just spiritual seekers who have such It all seems to be happening on its own experiences, As I remember, scientists in labs have been able to *invoke* such experiences just by tickling a certain area of the brain. So the issue for me is NOT whether people can have the perception that everything is happening without any intention on their part, but whether those
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason wrote: --- bobpriced bobpriced@ wrote: As I'm sure he knows, I'm a huge fan of Turq's posts; so I'm wondering if anyone would be kind enough to translate this one for me, particularly the last paragraph. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhSjwU8gEsI Hey Bob, it's so nice to have you here. You add color and an extra dimension to this group. I think you scared Barry which is why he doesn't reply to you. We are geneticaly hardwired to see symmetrical faces and clear skin as attractive. It indicates the genetic health of the individual, resistance to infections etc. Perhaps it does irk him a bit when a woman gets attrracted to a baldy like MMY. iranitea wrote: Jason, Maharishi wasn't always bald. I'm not female, so I can't really say if he was attractive to ladies, but as a devotee, there were certainly photos of him I liked, and I still like, this one for example. He doesn't look like a sex god there, but I certainly thought his demeanor was beautiful, the way he walked into the hall had something royal. But I guess, much of that, what we see, and the way we see it, is also a conditioning. There were also people who were attracted to Rajneesh, he was also bald, so... That is such a lovely photo - the classic one of MMY. As a woman who spent months and months and months around Maharishi in the 1970's, I can tell you it never even crossed my mind to consider him as someone to have sex with. He was radiant, he was fun and funny, smart. The air around him pulsed with energy. And, as iranitea says, his carriage as he entered the lecture hall, or anytime I saw him walking, was just regal and flowing. He was relaxed and yet completely upright and balanced, he glided as he walked.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason wrote: --- bobpriced bobpriced@ wrote: As I'm sure he knows, I'm a huge fan of Turq's posts; so I'm wondering if anyone would be kind enough to translate this one for me, particularly the last paragraph. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhSjwU8gEsI Hey Bob, it's so nice to have you here. You add color and an extra dimension to this group. I think you scared Barry which is why he doesn't reply to you. We are geneticaly hardwired to see symmetrical faces and clear skin as attractive. It indicates the genetic health of the individual, resistance to infections etc. Perhaps it does irk him a bit when a woman gets attrracted to a baldy like MMY. Jason, Maharishi wasn't always bald. I'm not female, so I can't really say if he was attractive to ladies, but as a devotee, there were certainly photos of him I liked, and I still like, this one for example. He doesn't look like a sex god there, but I certainly thought his demeanor was beautiful, the way he walked into the hall had something royal. This is a stunningly beautiful picture of MMY. It is sublime and his eyes are gentle and feeling. I have always loved this picture as well, although I have not seen it for decades. The evident beauty of this man, as portrayed by this moment in time when this picture was taken, attracts me to him for just about every other reason than sexual however. But I guess, much of that, what we see, and the way we see it, is also a conditioning. There were also people who were attracted to Rajneesh, he was also bald, so... There are 6 categories of immune systems in humans and it's reflected in facial features and smell. You are attracted to someone with a complementary immune system. You are not attracted to someone with a similar immune system. It's a mechanism by nature to prevent in-breeding. It also ensures that the ofspring are healthy and have better immune systems. --- Michael Jackson mjackson74@: That is interesting - I don't understand why you deplore the act because of who he did it with? You know the women and don't like them or what? --- turquoiseb@: I'm going to steer your thread in a slightly different direction, if you don't mind. For me, one of the most puzzling things about the whole spiritual-teachers- boning-their-students thang is that often I really, really don't get the attraction, from the woman's side. Call me guilty of being a lifelong straight guy, but I simply don't understand women who would find Maharishi Mahesh Yogi sexually *attractive* enough to want to have sex with him. Charismatic, maybe, depending on your stan- dards for that concept. The next thing to god in their minds, possibly. But sexually attractive? I just don't get it. With some *other* teachers, of both sexes, I can definitely see them being considered sexually attractive by their students. I mean, like all of her male followers, I sprung a woodie for Gangaji when I met her. :-) And I've certainly met male spiritual teachers who would be swooned over even by women who had no idea they were spiritual teachers, because they were hot! But I honestly don't get it with Maharishi. I can see many reasons for a woman devotee wanting to have sex with him, most of them closely tied to the word devotee, but I find it difficult to imagine many of them wanting to bone him because he was...uh...just so bonable.
[FairfieldLife] Re: EliminatingAd hominem Post-count on FFL lets return ..YES!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: I will not vote one way or another on this, but I do think that many people here are missing out on the opportunity for creativity and improved writing offered by posting limits. It doesn't have to be seen as a gag order, except by those who by now most agree need to be gagged. It can be seen as a chance to step back and THINK before typing, and especially before pressing that SEND button. As I have mentioned before, I type faster than most people; the things I write appear on the screen at pretty much the exact moment they appear in my head. I rarely edit what I say at all, and few posts take me more than a couple of minutes. --Barry, September 13, 2011 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/289269
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post
Doc I'd have to watch the movie again to find out. Whatever it was, it was something that wasn't generally known about or talked about. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: If you are talking about Strontium-90 in the milk, this has been known about for the last 50 years. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Jason, what makes me take the concept of Kali Yuga literally is the fact that truth about our world often appears mainly or only in novels and movies. An example is the Nick Nolte, Julia Roberts movie I Love Trouble that was all about cancer producing chemicals in milk. BEFORE this was well known! And this is reportedly an aspect of Kali Yuga, that truth is presented as fiction. Also the reverse, falsehood is presented as truth, such as we see too often in politics. From: Jason jedi_spock@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 5:12 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post  --- Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: We were all born in Kali Yuga, which means none of us had what it took to get enlightened for the three previous yugas. Yep, toads. All of us. Seriously, is it any wonder that we ended up HOPPING as our spiritual practice? Edg Good to see you here,Duvey. The concept of Yugas is a symbolic, allegorical, figurative representation of the Cyclical nature of the Universe and the ecosystem itself. Day becomes night, Summer becomes winter, periodic ice ages come and go, even the brightness of the sun seems to occilate in cycles. Life forms grow, reproduce, die and the cycle continues for generations. Your cells eat, digest, take in energy, eliminate waste matter and the cycle continues. This cyclical aspect of Nature is represented in the Yuga concept. Don't take it literaly. As Barry points out the actual 'Kali Yuga' is just a myth. --- seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: You got what you deserved Edg. How'z come you weren't born during Ramana Maharishi's time? Howz come that? --- Duveyoung wrote: How'z'come it is that we always ask, Why did Maharishi have sex? instead of: Why in the fuck are we such spiritual toads that he's all we could muster up for a guru? --- turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Gotta agree with Steve on this one, Edg. TMers got pretty much what they deserved, because they showed all the discrimination of this woman, when utilizing the services of a Ghostbuster. And with the same result: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/24/ghostbuster-exorcism-with-penis\ _n_3809865.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/24/ghostbuster-exorcism-with-peni\ s_n_3809865.html Who ya gonna call? :-) OK, I get that all of this is a joke, but it is important IMO to remember that Kali Yuga does not exist. It's a made-up human term for a made- up division of time that does not and has never existed. That said, and to continue with your joke, I noticed that no one ever really dealt with the actual *issue* I brought up about whether the Rish actually had any sexual charisma or even attractiveness to explain how he managed to get a few women to have sex with him. People avoided that issue like the plague, playing shoot the messenger instead, like always. So I'll piggyback (or frogback) off Edg's joke to pass along the words of at least three TM women who, even though still part of the TMO, *weren't* afraid to deal with the issue. All three described the idea of having sex with Maharishi using the exact same same words: Have sex with that squat little toad? E. Appropriate somehow that the spiritual practice he brought to the world was hopping like a frog. :-) As for the issue of his attractiveness or non-, any women here who had sexual fantasies about Maharishi (requited or unrequited) are invited to share them with us to provide a counterpoint.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post
Seriously, is it any wonder that we ended up HOPPING as our spiritual practice? turquoise: OK, I get that all of this is a joke, but it is important IMO to remember that Kali Yuga does not exist. It's a made-up human term for a made- up division of time that does not and has never existed. It makes just about as much sense as your belief in the Tibetan 'Bardo', or your belief if a soul-monad that reincarnates, or your claim to witnessing a levitation event. But, if it's a joke, it's on you. That said, and to continue with your joke, I noticed that no one ever really dealt with the actual *issue* I brought up about whether the Rish actually had any sexual charisma or even attractiveness to explain how he managed to get a few women to have sex with him. People avoided that issue like the plague, playing shoot the messenger instead, like always. So I'll piggyback (or frogback) off Edg's joke to pass along the words of at least three TM women who, even though still part of the TMO, *weren't* afraid to deal with the issue. All three described the idea of having sex with Maharishi using the exact same same words: Have sex with that squat little toad? E. You're obviously prejudiced against Hindus, and apparently other groups too, based on their birth circumstances. You don't have to be attractive in order to have a sexual relationship, Uncle Tantra. You are a case in point. LoL! Appropriate somehow that the spiritual practice he brought to the world was hopping like a frog. :-) As for the issue of his attractiveness or non-, any women here who had sexual fantasies about Maharishi (requited or unrequited) are invited to share them with us to provide a counterpoint.
[FairfieldLife] Excuses for avoiding liberation? [was Re: Blissy vs. Happy]
Thanks for bringing this part of Turq's brain to our attention, again, Judy. See below --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: As for the last question you asked here, I simply do not think Barry devotes much energy to what he writes. This is what I think. It is an hypothesis, because I have no way to measure what he does. But because I think this, and that is all there is to it, it is an opinion. It is also, from my point of view, an accurate opinion. As I have mentioned before, I type faster than most people; the things I write appear on the screen at pretty much the exact moment they appear in my head. I rarely edit what I say at all, and few posts take me more than a couple of minutes. It is not a fact. Opinions are not knowledge. So why must I justify and manufacture an answer for that thought to satisfy you? Because she's Judge Judy, dummy. *Her* view of who and what she is and why she does what she does is the only possible view. Anyone who suggests another way of seeing her or her actions is WRONG, or worse, LYING. :-) I probably expend a huge amount of energy compared to him. How much do you expend? You definitely try to check facts, scan old posts for inconsistencies. Barry doesn't bother much if what he says is correct, and what you say is correct. That's because, as you note above, what I write is OPINION. My opinion and a buck-fifty will get you a bad cup of coffee at Starbucks. I am content with this. Some are not. They want their words to be perceived as Truth. I have no such illusions or aspirations. Because I write as fast as I do, and so effortlessly, I write for the sheer fun of writing. Admittedly, being somewhat perverse, sometimes I also write for the fun of pushing buttons in those whose attachment buttons are easily pushed. I would suggest that this latest tempest in a pisspot is proof that I'm pretty good at it. :-) I'm having FUN by throwing out the occasional provocation and then just watching how Gladys Knight and the Pips (Jim, Ravi, and MZ) react to it. Gladys is without question the leader of the group; the Pips are just backup singers. Their lyrics and choreography are just doo-wah's and dance steps intended to provide backup for Gladys. Lately I've been having fun by pointing out that the Pips *are*, in fact, nothing but Pips, and that none of the four of them are really worth paying much attention to, except when they can provide some amusement in the form of pushing their buttons and then watching them strut their stuff and sing doo-wah's. Doo-What, Turq? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2KOV2Veut4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2KOV2Veut4 Take a listen to the director of the film: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuezUEcigc8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuezUEcigc8 Go ahead Turq, keep writing the same story over and over, and you may one day be; keep writing the same story over and over, and you may one day be; keep writing the same story over and over, and you may one day be; keep writing the same story over and over, and you may one day be; The record is skipping. :) From my point of view, what is pushing their buttons the most in this latest exchange is the notion *that* none of them are worth my attention, and that I'm not really giving them much of it. That contradicts and flies in the face of the narcissistic I'm the center of the universe self images, and makes them a little crazy. As the song goes, the more I ignore them and move my focus to other people on this forum who *are* interesting, the more they're about to lose their minds. I see my provocations in this thread as a way of pointing out what people who feed on the attention of others do when that attention is withdrawn. This is OPINION. However, it's my honest OPINION. Yours may vary, and that's OK. Unlike Gladys Knight and the Pips, I'm not trying to sell you my OPINION by calling it Truth. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWvwP72FuVg Take a good look at these tears in my eyes, Baby, baby these tears I can't hold inside. Losin' you would end my life you see, Cause you mean that much to me. You could have told me yourself That you love someone else. Instead... I heard it through the grapevine Not much longer would you be mine. Oh I heard it through the grapevine, Oh and I'm just about to lose my mind. Oh yes I am. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: EliminatingAd hominem Post-count on FFL lets return ..YES!
WLeed3:
I fully agree Bill in Buffalo
It's a tough crowd to dialog with. I've been here
for over ten years now and it just keeps getting
worse every day. There's no way you can shut these
guys up - it's probably as close to a daily
spiritual practice that they get. LoL!
It's probably true that it's now a compulsion to
post ad hominems to the list - I don't know. Where
is Dr. Pete when we need him?
It may be surprising to you, but there lots of
TMers and TM teachers that have very strong
prejudices. Go figure.
What you've got to understand Mr. Leed, is that
you're dealing with professionals here - writers
and editors whose training have prepared them for
dialog on a community bulletin board.
One guy used to do paste up and layout and writes
'Owner's Manuals' for a living; another guy
claimed he was a graphic artist with a Mac; one
gal says she is an editor by trade. At least four
guys claim to be computer scientists. Another guy
claims to be a former TMO baker.
Yep, the name-calling and the ad hominem certainly are the low forms of
argument here and should certainly be outlawed in civil society and on all
Yahoo groups as reprehensible abuse. Yes, by stark contrast certainly the
best writing and exchange on FFL was in a time when the post count was
limited to 35 per week. This list cries out for a limit to abuse and a
strong
hand of moderation. A strict speed limit of 35 posts per week.
-Buck
In a message dated 08/23/13 16:55:50 Eastern Daylight Time,
dhamiltony2k5@ writes:
Dear Rick, the post-count experiment as a noble hope is clearly failing.
The lowest form of writing and argument evidently dominates FFL with
their diluting flood of the post-count of FFL. As an elder of the FFL
community here I implore you Rick, please save our FFL from the lowest form
of
argument on FFL, the Ad hominem . These people's abuse of the list and
community here with the Ad hominem is too much. Something radical,
something
different needs to be done to save FFL as a spiritual and free place.
Sincerely,
-Buck
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post
Jeez! Doc I don't know when you sent this but I just now received it in my inbox. AND I've already replied to you via Message View. Grr, which I really don't like doing because those don't go to my Sent folder. Ok, just venting about yahoo who is really messing up for the last couple of weeks. From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 7:48 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post If you are talking about Strontium-90 in the milk, this has been known about for the last 50 years. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Jason, what makes me take the concept of Kali Yuga literally is the fact that truth about our world often appears mainly or only in novels and movies. An example is the Nick Nolte, Julia Roberts movie I Love Trouble that was all about cancer producing chemicals in milk. BEFORE this was well known! And this is reportedly an aspect of Kali Yuga, that truth is presented as fiction. Also the reverse, falsehood is presented as truth, such as we see too often in politics. From: Jason jedi_spock@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 5:12 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post  --- Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: We were all born in Kali Yuga, which means none of us had what it took to get enlightened for the three previous yugas. Yep, toads. All of us. Seriously, is it any wonder that we ended up HOPPING as our spiritual practice? Edg Good to see you here,Duvey. The concept of Yugas is a symbolic, allegorical, figurative representation of the Cyclical nature of the Universe and the ecosystem itself. Day becomes night, Summer becomes winter, periodic ice ages come and go, even the brightness of the sun seems to occilate in cycles. Life forms grow, reproduce, die and the cycle continues for generations. Your cells eat, digest, take in energy, eliminate waste matter and the cycle continues. This cyclical aspect of Nature is represented in the Yuga concept. Don't take it literaly. As Barry points out the actual 'Kali Yuga' is just a myth. --- seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: You got what you deserved Edg. How'z come you weren't born during Ramana Maharishi's time? Howz come that? --- Duveyoung wrote: How'z'come it is that we always ask, Why did Maharishi have sex? instead of: Why in the fuck are we such spiritual toads that he's all we could muster up for a guru? --- turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Gotta agree with Steve on this one, Edg. TMers got pretty much what they deserved, because they showed all the discrimination of this woman, when utilizing the services of a Ghostbuster. And with the same result: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/24/ghostbuster-exorcism-with-penis\ _n_3809865.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/24/ghostbuster-exorcism-with-peni\ s_n_3809865.html Who ya gonna call? :-) OK, I get that all of this is a joke, but it is important IMO to remember that Kali Yuga does not exist. It's a made-up human term for a made- up division of time that does not and has never existed. That said, and to continue with your joke, I noticed that no one ever really dealt with the actual *issue* I brought up about whether the Rish actually had any sexual charisma or even attractiveness to explain how he managed to get a few women to have sex with him. People avoided that issue like the plague, playing shoot the messenger instead, like always. So I'll piggyback (or frogback) off Edg's joke to pass along the words of at least three TM women who, even though still part of the TMO, *weren't* afraid to deal with the issue. All three described the idea of having sex with Maharishi using the exact same same words: Have sex with that squat little toad? E. Appropriate somehow that the spiritual practice he brought to the world was hopping like a frog. :-) As for the issue of his attractiveness or non-, any women here who had sexual fantasies about Maharishi (requited or unrequited) are invited to share them with us to provide a counterpoint.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Newsroom: Red Team III
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: OK, I know that not many here enjoy this series as much as I do, but I'm the only person I have to please around here, and I love it. What many? You blocked view, of most everyone's posting and refuse to converse with most anyone who actually is listening, but again, you are only pleasing yourself by typing it on the FFL Yahoo Group Message Board and you love it. I read your post. I listen, but I am not the audience you wish to be concerned if I am listening (we do not hear type written word and thank god for that. Turq's voice droning over and over in a mono tone B flat.) to my music as I read your post to yourself, I guess, I am still listening. Have a nice time and thank you for the tip of the series. Will check it out. Just wanted you to realize it may be best not to type drunk. I think it's tightly written, superbly acted and directed, and it occasionally makes some strong and valid criticisms of the News and how it works...and how it sometimes fails to work. All six of the previous episodes this season have been leading up to last night's episode, when a seemingly strong story they'd broadcast came crashing down with embarrassing-to-the-network and mass-resignations-required consequences. And IMO all on the team did a fine job in presenting this story in these six episodes. But -- again IMO -- all of this was preface. It was all leading up to a scene featuring the actress who had not been present so far in the season, delivering a speech that both Aaron Sorkin (as the writer) and her (as the actress delivering it) will be remembered for long after those who rag on The Newsroom are dead and forgotten. The owner of the fictional News network gets called out of a charity benefit she's dressed to the nines and paid a thousand bucks to attend because she wanted to meet Daniel Craig, who was a no-show. She's not in the best of moods, because she really *wanted* to meet Daniel Craig. And to top that off, she's stoned. Then she gets called into a room and told that she has to accept the resignations of her three most key employees at the network. That's the setup. The punchline is that this woman is being played by Jane Fonda, one of the greatest actresses any of us have ever been privileged to see onscreen. My bet is that she'll be nominated for another Emmy (she already was, for her work in last season) for this five minutes of screen time. And my hope is that she wins. This was as masterful a piece of acting as I have ever seen in my life. She literally brought tears to my eyes. Those of you who like to rag on The Newsroom can carry on now, carrying on. Me, I'll carry on enjoying great TV wherever I find it, no matter how many others don't like it.
[FairfieldLife] Fuck da post count [was Re: Eliminating Post-count on FFL ]
The more you feed the energy creature, the more likely it is that Rick will be convinced to reinstate the posting limits. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: It is so funny - This unlimited posting drives you absolutely bananas, doesn't it? No more control freak games to see who posts out first. No more control freak games to ensure you get maximum attention. No more kissing up to the moderators' butts to ensure the posting count is enforced. And, for your sake, no more spreadsheets. You had about two good years on here, running the roost and feeling AWFULLY BIG. Thing is, now, with no post count, no one much notices you. Seriously, you should find another forum where you can again be a big fish in a small pond. A really, really special fish. PS Its also OK to *admit* you read this.:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Switch forums then, you control freak. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: I will not vote one way or another on this, but I do think that many people here are missing out on the opportunity for creativity and improved writing offered by posting limits. It doesn't have to be seen as a gag order, except by those who by now most agree need to be gagged. It can be seen as a chance to step back and THINK before typing, and especially before pressing that SEND button. On another forum I once haunted, they too were afflicted by a bunch of motormouths who wouldn't or couldn't shut up. There wasn't much flaming or ad hominem on that forum, but there wasn't much intelligent thought going on, either. So the moderator suggested an experiment. It was unenforced, but the posters there, being actual spiritual seekers as opposed to spiritual poseurs like we have here, all agreed to it, and undertook it for the fun of it, and the challenge. There was, in fact, a posting limit. For a period of two months, everyone on the forum was limited to only ONE post per day. And it had to be in the form of a haiku. Seventeen syllables. No more, no less. And it was WONDERFUL. Everyone rose to the challenge, and produced some remarkable poetry, insights, and humor. To this day (years later) many people on this forum still follow the One haiku per day rule, because they came to like it so much. OK, I *know* that it could never work here. Many of our motormouths and trashmouths couldn't write a haiku if you gave them 17,000 syllables to work with. But like Maharishi's heaven on earth it's a pleasant fiction to imagine, even for a moment... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WLeed3@ wrote: I fully agree Bill in Buffalo In a message dated 8/26/2013 8:01:09 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, dhamiltony2k5@ writes: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wleed3 WLeed3@ wrote: I am leaving if the postings are not reduced much is vitriol Yep, the name-calling and the ad hominem certainly are the low forms of argument here and should certainly be outlawed in civil society and on all Yahoo groups as reprehensible abuse. Yes, by stark contrast certainly the best writing and exchange on FFL was in a time when the post count was limited to 35 per week. This list cries out for a limit to abuse and a strong hand of moderation. A strict speed limit of 35 posts per week. -Buck
[FairfieldLife] Re: EliminatingAd hominem Post-count on FFL lets return ..YES!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: I will not vote one way or another on this, but I do think that many people here are missing out on the opportunity for creativity and improved writing offered by posting limits. It doesn't have to be seen as a gag order, except by those who by now most agree need to be gagged. It can be seen as a chance to step back and THINK before typing, and especially before pressing that SEND button. As I have mentioned before, I type faster than most people; the things I write appear on the screen at pretty much the exact moment they appear in my head. I rarely edit what I say at all, and few posts take me more than a couple of minutes. --Barry, September 13, 2011 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/289269 The post of the day so far goes to Judy:
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: EliminatingAd hominem Post-count on FFL lets return ..YES!
Good catch, Judy. turq? From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 9:11 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: EliminatingAd hominem Post-count on FFL lets return ..YES! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: I will not vote one way or another on this, but I do think that many people here are missing out on the opportunity for creativity and improved writing offered by posting limits. It doesn't have to be seen as a gag order, except by those who by now most agree need to be gagged. It can be seen as a chance to step back and THINK before typing, and especially before pressing that SEND button. As I have mentioned before, I type faster than most people; the things I write appear on the screen at pretty much the exact moment they appear in my head. I rarely edit what I say at all, and few posts take me more than a couple of minutes. --Barry, September 13, 2011 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/289269
[FairfieldLife] Was Voldemort a rapist like Freddy? [was Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Yeah, too bad Maharishi only had sex with those whom he loved. He probably should have just raped the women at gunpoint, like Freddy Lenz, your Guru, did. Great suggestion, Voldemort! Yes, if a woman won't have sex with me, I'll play with a gun to convince her. If only you could have shared this priceless wisdom with Maharishi before he passed away. Do you ever follow Freddy's example with women, now? Just curious as you hung around with him quite a bit, even sitting in the coveted front seat of his car, whether or not you have also raped women like he did? No worries, I am not expecting an honest response, least of all from you. Dr D, what is going on here? Barry is not responsible for Freddie's behavior. Get a grip. No Susan, Barry is not responsible for Fred's behaviour but Barry's behaviour is bad enough and he doesn't take responsibility for that either. You appear to be willing to take that on for him, however. I don't know what 's worse - Share putting up with his abuse of her or you supporting him. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: We were all born in Kali Yuga, which means none of us had what it took to get enlightened for the three previous yugas. Yep, toads. All of us. Seriously, is it any wonder that we ended up HOPPING as our spiritual practice? OK, I get that all of this is a joke, but it is important IMO to remember that Kali Yuga does not exist. It's a made-up human term for a made- up division of time that does not and has never existed. That said, and to continue with your joke, I noticed that no one ever really dealt with the actual *issue* I brought up about whether the Rish actually had any sexual charisma or even attractiveness to explain how he managed to get a few women to have sex with him. People avoided that issue like the plague, playing shoot the messenger instead, like always. So I'll piggyback (or frogback) off Edg's joke to pass along the words of at least three TM women who, even though still part of the TMO, *weren't* afraid to deal with the issue. All three described the idea of having sex with Maharishi using the exact same same words: Have sex with that squat little toad? E. Appropriate somehow that the spiritual practice he brought to the world was hopping like a frog. :-) As for the issue of his attractiveness or non-, any women here who had sexual fantasies about Maharishi (requited or unrequited) are invited to share them with us to provide a counterpoint.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Newsroom: Red Team III
Turq's original post on Newsroom has yet to show up via email or it's stuck in the Yahoo Mail spam bin. I've been watching the series but this may be the last episode I watch for awhile or until October. Comcast is encrypting Limited Basic starting October first rendering my computer TV tuners useless. Of course Newsroom is HBO and my promo ran out last month so I'm paying Comcast's ridiculous full price for it. So HBO gets canceled this week. And towards the end of the month Comcast will be kicked out of this house entirely either being replaced by U-Verse or no TV except streaming. U-Verse's 12 month month promo will save me a lot of money over Comcast. And I'm sure I'm not the only one in the area canceling Comcast. My only problem with Newsroom is that I read a lot of political stuff over the week so a fictional show about it is not that compelling. It's a well crafted show but I usually get around to watching the recording of the current episode later in the week. The news itself is a much better show. I've become a fan of Ray Donovan which follows Dexter. The latter has only three episodes left of the series. Then there's the great Lennie James in the AMC series which follows Breaking Bad. It's about a couple of bad cops trying to cover their tracks to their murder of another bad cop. And of course Talking Bad where last night Samuel L Jackson and the actor who plays Saul were guests last night. Talking Bad is a Breaking Bad fan show follow-up. On 08/26/2013 08:21 AM, obbajeeba wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: OK, I know that not many here enjoy this series as much as I do, but I'm the only person I have to please around here, and I love it. What many? You blocked view, of most everyone's posting and refuse to converse with most anyone who actually is listening, but again, you are only pleasing yourself by typing it on the FFL Yahoo Group Message Board and you love it. I read your post. I listen, but I am not the audience you wish to be concerned if I am listening (we do not hear type written word and thank god for that. Turq's voice droning over and over in a mono tone B flat.) to my music as I read your post to yourself, I guess, I am still listening. Have a nice time and thank you for the tip of the series. Will check it out. Just wanted you to realize it may be best not to type drunk. I think it's tightly written, superbly acted and directed, and it occasionally makes some strong and valid criticisms of the News and how it works...and how it sometimes fails to work. All six of the previous episodes this season have been leading up to last night's episode, when a seemingly strong story they'd broadcast came crashing down with embarrassing-to-the-network and mass-resignations-required consequences. And IMO all on the team did a fine job in presenting this story in these six episodes. But -- again IMO -- all of this was preface. It was all leading up to a scene featuring the actress who had not been present so far in the season, delivering a speech that both Aaron Sorkin (as the writer) and her (as the actress delivering it) will be remembered for long after those who rag on The Newsroom are dead and forgotten. The owner of the fictional News network gets called out of a charity benefit she's dressed to the nines and paid a thousand bucks to attend because she wanted to meet Daniel Craig, who was a no-show. She's not in the best of moods, because she really *wanted* to meet Daniel Craig. And to top that off, she's stoned. Then she gets called into a room and told that she has to accept the resignations of her three most key employees at the network. That's the setup. The punchline is that this woman is being played by Jane Fonda, one of the greatest actresses any of us have ever been privileged to see onscreen. My bet is that she'll be nominated for another Emmy (she already was, for her work in last season) for this five minutes of screen time. And my hope is that she wins. This was as masterful a piece of acting as I have ever seen in my life. She literally brought tears to my eyes. Those of you who like to rag on The Newsroom can carry on now, carrying on. Me, I'll carry on enjoying great TV wherever I find it, no matter how many others don't like it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: EliminatingAd hominem Post-count on FFL lets return ..YES!
Beautiful...Barry is self-evidently our greatest living exemplar of the paradox of Brahman! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: I will not vote one way or another on this, but I do think that many people here are missing out on the opportunity for creativity and improved writing offered by posting limits. It doesn't have to be seen as a gag order, except by those who by now most agree need to be gagged. It can be seen as a chance to step back and THINK before typing, and especially before pressing that SEND button. As I have mentioned before, I type faster than most people; the things I write appear on the screen at pretty much the exact moment they appear in my head. I rarely edit what I say at all, and few posts take me more than a couple of minutes. --Barry, September 13, 2011 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/289269
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fuck da post count [was Re: Eliminating Post-count on FFL ]
Only 54 posts this morning since last night's Post Count. Seems to be trending down so folks may be hitting their stride. On 08/26/2013 08:36 AM, Alex Stanley wrote: The more you feed the energy creature, the more likely it is that Rick will be convinced to reinstate the posting limits. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: It is so funny - This unlimited posting drives you absolutely bananas, doesn't it? No more control freak games to see who posts out first. No more control freak games to ensure you get maximum attention. No more kissing up to the moderators' butts to ensure the posting count is enforced. And, for your sake, no more spreadsheets. You had about two good years on here, running the roost and feeling AWFULLY BIG. Thing is, now, with no post count, no one much notices you. Seriously, you should find another forum where you can again be a big fish in a small pond. A really, really special fish. PS Its also OK to *admit* you read this.:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Switch forums then, you control freak. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: I will not vote one way or another on this, but I do think that many people here are missing out on the opportunity for creativity and improved writing offered by posting limits. It doesn't have to be seen as a gag order, except by those who by now most agree need to be gagged. It can be seen as a chance to step back and THINK before typing, and especially before pressing that SEND button. On another forum I once haunted, they too were afflicted by a bunch of motormouths who wouldn't or couldn't shut up. There wasn't much flaming or ad hominem on that forum, but there wasn't much intelligent thought going on, either. So the moderator suggested an experiment. It was unenforced, but the posters there, being actual spiritual seekers as opposed to spiritual poseurs like we have here, all agreed to it, and undertook it for the fun of it, and the challenge. There was, in fact, a posting limit. For a period of two months, everyone on the forum was limited to only ONE post per day. And it had to be in the form of a haiku. Seventeen syllables. No more, no less. And it was WONDERFUL. Everyone rose to the challenge, and produced some remarkable poetry, insights, and humor. To this day (years later) many people on this forum still follow the One haiku per day rule, because they came to like it so much. OK, I *know* that it could never work here. Many of our motormouths and trashmouths couldn't write a haiku if you gave them 17,000 syllables to work with. But like Maharishi's heaven on earth it's a pleasant fiction to imagine, even for a moment... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, WLeed3@ wrote: I fully agree Bill in Buffalo In a message dated 8/26/2013 8:01:09 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, dhamiltony2k5@ writes: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, wleed3 WLeed3@ wrote: I am leaving if the postings are not reduced much is vitriol Yep, the name-calling and the ad hominem certainly are the low forms of argument here and should certainly be outlawed in civil society and on all Yahoo groups as reprehensible abuse. Yes, by stark contrast certainly the best writing and exchange on FFL was in a time when the post count was limited to 35 per week. This list cries out for a limit to abuse and a strong hand of moderation. A strict speed limit of 35 posts per week. -Buck
[FairfieldLife] Fuck da post count [was Re: Eliminating Post-count on FFL ]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: Only 54 posts this morning since last night's Post Count. Seems to be trending down so folks may be hitting their stride. More likely that it's seeping through a few thick skulls that their normal act of wanting attention so badly they'll try to insult or taunt someone into giving it to them isn't working any more. Did you watch any of True Blood this season? I kinda liked it. The parts that were most inter- esting was to see what happens to vampires when they can't feed as they've gotten used to feeding. That was a familiar sight.
[FairfieldLife] Re: EliminatingAd hominem Post-count on FFL lets return ..YES!
Judy, I love you. You're hilarious. Where can I apply to become a Pip? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: I will not vote one way or another on this, but I do think that many people here are missing out on the opportunity for creativity and improved writing offered by posting limits. It doesn't have to be seen as a gag order, except by those who by now most agree need to be gagged. It can be seen as a chance to step back and THINK before typing, and especially before pressing that SEND button. As I have mentioned before, I type faster than most people; the things I write appear on the screen at pretty much the exact moment they appear in my head. I rarely edit what I say at all, and few posts take me more than a couple of minutes. --Barry, September 13, 2011 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/289269 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/289269
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60 sharelong60@... wrote: Doc I'd have to watch the movie again to find out. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=I+love+trouble Whatever it was, it was something that wasn't generally known about or talked about. It was about an evil chemical company selling hormones to milk producers for their cows that the company knew caused cancer in those who drank the milk. (Actually the movie wasn't about that; it was a romantic comedy with a mystery. The cancer-causing hormone aspect wasn't revealed to be the solution to the mystery until near the end of the film.) The FDA approved the use of synthetic bovine growth hormone in 1993. The movie came out in 1994. There's always been controversy about whether the hormone is safe for humans, but there have been many studies, and there's no conclusive evidence that it's a threat (although it causes health problems in cows, making them more vulnerable to mastitis, which means they're given more antibiotics, and *that* may be the real threat to human health). Bottom line, the movie did not reveal anything that was not already generally known, and it's fictional in that we do *not* know that this hormone causes cancer in humans; as noted, there's no hard evidence to that effect. *Natural* estrogen found in cows' milk *has* been linked (though not conclusively) to increased rates of certain kinds of cancers. But that has nothing to do with bovine growth hormone. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: If you are talking about Strontium-90 in the milk, this has been known about for the last 50 years. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Jason, what makes me take the concept of Kali Yuga literally is the fact that truth about our world often appears mainly or only in novels and movies. An example is the Nick Nolte, Julia Roberts movie I Love Trouble that was all about cancer producing chemicals in milk. BEFORE this was well known! And this is reportedly an aspect of Kali Yuga, that truth is presented as fiction. Also the reverse, falsehood is presented as truth, such as we see too often in politics.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post
Yeah, happens once in awhile. I figure free is free, and Yahoo isn't really a critical app, so if stuff is late or gets lost/double posted, nothing to be concerned about. Probably just the Internet in Kali Yuga. ;-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Jeez! Doc I don't know when you sent this but I just now received it in my inbox. AND I've already replied to you via Message View. Grr, which I really don't like doing because those don't go to my Sent folder. Ok, just venting about yahoo who is really messing up for the last couple of weeks. From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 7:48 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post  If you are talking about Strontium-90 in the milk, this has been known about for the last 50 years. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Jason, what makes me take the concept of Kali Yuga literally is the fact that truth about our world often appears mainly or only in novels and movies. An example is the Nick Nolte, Julia Roberts movie I Love Trouble that was all about cancer producing chemicals in milk. BEFORE this was well known! And this is reportedly an aspect of Kali Yuga, that truth is presented as fiction. Also the reverse, falsehood is presented as truth, such as we see too often in politics. From: Jason jedi_spock@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 5:12 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post à--- Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: We were all born in Kali Yuga, which means none of us had what it took to get enlightened for the three previous yugas. Yep, toads. All of us. Seriously, is it any wonder that we ended up HOPPING as our spiritual practice? Edg Good to see you here,Duvey. The concept of Yugas is a symbolic, allegorical, figurative representation of the Cyclical nature of the Universe and the ecosystem itself. Day becomes night, Summer becomes winter, periodic ice ages come and go, even the brightness of the sun seems to occilate in cycles. Life forms grow, reproduce, die and the cycle continues for generations. Your cells eat, digest, take in energy, eliminate waste matter and the cycle continues. This cyclical aspect of Nature is represented in the Yuga concept. Don't take it literaly. As Barry points out the actual 'Kali Yuga' is just a myth. --- seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: You got what you deserved Edg. How'z come you weren't born during Ramana Maharishi's time? Howz come that? --- Duveyoung wrote: How'z'come it is that we always ask, Why did Maharishi have sex? instead of: Why in the fuck are we such spiritual toads that he's all we could muster up for a guru? --- turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Gotta agree with Steve on this one, Edg. TMers got pretty much what they deserved, because they showed all the discrimination of this woman, when utilizing the services of a Ghostbuster. And with the same result: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/24/ghostbuster-exorcism-with-penis\ _n_3809865.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/24/ghostbuster-exorcism-with-peni\ s_n_3809865.html Who ya gonna call? :-) OK, I get that all of this is a joke, but it is important IMO to remember that Kali Yuga does not exist. It's a made-up human term for a made- up division of time that does not and has never existed. That said, and to continue with your joke, I noticed that no one ever really dealt with the actual *issue* I brought up about whether the Rish actually had any sexual charisma or even attractiveness to explain how he managed to get a few women to have sex with him. People avoided that issue like the plague, playing shoot the messenger instead, like always. So I'll piggyback (or frogback) off Edg's joke to pass along the words of at least three TM women who, even though still part of the TMO, *weren't* afraid to deal with the issue. All three described the idea of having sex with Maharishi using the exact same same words: Have sex with that squat little toad? E. Appropriate somehow that the spiritual practice he brought to the world was hopping like a frog. :-) As for the issue of his attractiveness or non-, any women here who had sexual fantasies about Maharishi (requited or unrequited) are invited to share them with us to provide a counterpoint.
[FairfieldLife] Fuck da post count [was Re: Eliminating Post-count on FFL ]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Only 54 posts this morning since last night's Post Count. Seems to be trending down so folks may be hitting their stride. More likely that it's seeping through a few thick skulls that their normal act of wanting attention so badly they'll try to insult or taunt someone into giving it to them isn't working any more. Actually, Barry, you're the only one whose normal act this is. You call it pushing buttons, remember?
[FairfieldLife] Kevin Spacey: Don't Worry About Piracy
Give the people what they want! Clearly the success of the Netflix model, releasing the entire season of House of Cards at once, proved one thing: the audience wants the control. They want the freedom. If they want to binge... we should let them binge And through this new form of distribution, we have demonstrated that we have learned the lesson that the music industry didn't learn: give people what they want, when they want it, in the form they want it in, at a reasonable price and they'll more likely pay for it rather than steal it. Well, some will still steal it, but I think we can take a bite out of piracy. http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/08/26/kevin-spacey-stop-worrying-about-piracy-and-give-users-what-they-want/
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post
Ah, thanks. There is a dairy here, Berkeley Farms, which doesn't sell organic milk, but their milk is BGH free. I buy it when I can. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60 sharelong60@ wrote: Doc I'd have to watch the movie again to find out. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=I+love+trouble Whatever it was, it was something that wasn't generally known about or talked about. It was about an evil chemical company selling hormones to milk producers for their cows that the company knew caused cancer in those who drank the milk. (Actually the movie wasn't about that; it was a romantic comedy with a mystery. The cancer-causing hormone aspect wasn't revealed to be the solution to the mystery until near the end of the film.) The FDA approved the use of synthetic bovine growth hormone in 1993. The movie came out in 1994. There's always been controversy about whether the hormone is safe for humans, but there have been many studies, and there's no conclusive evidence that it's a threat (although it causes health problems in cows, making them more vulnerable to mastitis, which means they're given more antibiotics, and *that* may be the real threat to human health). Bottom line, the movie did not reveal anything that was not already generally known, and it's fictional in that we do *not* know that this hormone causes cancer in humans; as noted, there's no hard evidence to that effect. *Natural* estrogen found in cows' milk *has* been linked (though not conclusively) to increased rates of certain kinds of cancers. But that has nothing to do with bovine growth hormone. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: If you are talking about Strontium-90 in the milk, this has been known about for the last 50 years. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Jason, what makes me take the concept of Kali Yuga literally is the fact that truth about our world often appears mainly or only in novels and movies. An example is the Nick Nolte, Julia Roberts movie I Love Trouble that was all about cancer producing chemicals in milk. BEFORE this was well known! And this is reportedly an aspect of Kali Yuga, that truth is presented as fiction. Also the reverse, falsehood is presented as truth, such as we see too often in politics.
[FairfieldLife] Fuck da post count [was Re: Eliminating Post-count on FFL ]
Bhairitu, noozguru, I really tried to keep track, aiming for around 15 per day. But blasted yahoo! Even some of my own posts arrive hours after I post them! So I'm using Message View to keep up and when I reply from there, the reply does not appear in my Sent folder. So the heck with keeping track! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: Only 54 posts this morning since last night's Post Count. Seems to be trending down so folks may be hitting their stride. On 08/26/2013 08:36 AM, Alex Stanley wrote: The more you feed the energy creature, the more likely it is that Rick will be convinced to reinstate the posting limits. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: It is so funny - This unlimited posting drives you absolutely bananas, doesn't it? No more control freak games to see who posts out first. No more control freak games to ensure you get maximum attention. No more kissing up to the moderators' butts to ensure the posting count is enforced. And, for your sake, no more spreadsheets. You had about two good years on here, running the roost and feeling AWFULLY BIG. Thing is, now, with no post count, no one much notices you. Seriously, you should find another forum where you can again be a big fish in a small pond. A really, really special fish. PS Its also OK to *admit* you read this.:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Switch forums then, you control freak. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: I will not vote one way or another on this, but I do think that many people here are missing out on the opportunity for creativity and improved writing offered by posting limits. It doesn't have to be seen as a gag order, except by those who by now most agree need to be gagged. It can be seen as a chance to step back and THINK before typing, and especially before pressing that SEND button. On another forum I once haunted, they too were afflicted by a bunch of motormouths who wouldn't or couldn't shut up. There wasn't much flaming or ad hominem on that forum, but there wasn't much intelligent thought going on, either. So the moderator suggested an experiment. It was unenforced, but the posters there, being actual spiritual seekers as opposed to spiritual poseurs like we have here, all agreed to it, and undertook it for the fun of it, and the challenge. There was, in fact, a posting limit. For a period of two months, everyone on the forum was limited to only ONE post per day. And it had to be in the form of a haiku. Seventeen syllables. No more, no less. And it was WONDERFUL. Everyone rose to the challenge, and produced some remarkable poetry, insights, and humor. To this day (years later) many people on this forum still follow the One haiku per day rule, because they came to like it so much. OK, I *know* that it could never work here. Many of our motormouths and trashmouths couldn't write a haiku if you gave them 17,000 syllables to work with. But like Maharishi's heaven on earth it's a pleasant fiction to imagine, even for a moment... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, WLeed3@ wrote: I fully agree Bill in Buffalo In a message dated 8/26/2013 8:01:09 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, dhamiltony2k5@ writes: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, wleed3 WLeed3@ wrote: I am leaving if the postings are not reduced much is vitriol Yep, the name-calling and the ad hominem certainly are the low forms of argument here and should certainly be outlawed in civil society and on all Yahoo groups as reprehensible abuse. Yes, by stark contrast certainly the best writing and exchange on FFL was in a time when the post count was limited to 35 per week. This list cries out for a limit to abuse and a strong hand of moderation. A strict speed limit of 35 posts per week. -Buck
[FairfieldLife] Re: EliminatingAd hominem Post-count on FFL lets return ..YES!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bobpriced bobpriced@... wrote: Judy, I love you. You're hilarious. Thank you! That's definitely mutual. Thing is, I can't take much credit; Barry does it to himself, repeatedly. Where can I apply to become a Pip? You have to decide whether you want to be a Pip or a Mean Girl. You're already on track for membership in the MGC, so maybe you should just stick with that? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: I will not vote one way or another on this, but I do think that many people here are missing out on the opportunity for creativity and improved writing offered by posting limits. It doesn't have to be seen as a gag order, except by those who by now most agree need to be gagged. It can be seen as a chance to step back and THINK before typing, and especially before pressing that SEND button. As I have mentioned before, I type faster than most people; the things I write appear on the screen at pretty much the exact moment they appear in my head. I rarely edit what I say at all, and few posts take me more than a couple of minutes. --Barry, September 13, 2011 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/289269 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/289269
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obombie wants his war
Reminds me of the Chinese curse: May you live in interesting times. The global political situation still looks like a great big yin-yang symbol to me. Nothing to be concerned about. Technology shrinks space and speeds up time, and inflates dynamics, and, now, is literally in our faces, every day. But that doesn't mean that there is anything wrong, currently, more than at any past time, just a greater and greater contrast between the stillness within, and the racing infinity, outside. Maybe it all just churns itself into butter eventually. Who knows? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: Break out those anti-war signs because Obombie wants his war goaded on by the NeoCon devils. Oh the chatter here about is it Kali Yuga or Sat Yuga. Let's see: We have a possibility of WWIII. We have a possibility of human extinction in 13 years (or less). We have Fukushima radioactive water going into the Pacific Ocean and poisoning it. Yup, must be Sat Yuga.
[FairfieldLife] Re: EliminatingAd hominem Post-count on FFL lets return ..YES!
(Which of course makes Judy our greatest living knower of, and exponent of, said paradox of Brahman!) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: Beautiful...Barry is self-evidently our greatest living exemplar of the paradox of Brahman! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: I will not vote one way or another on this, but I do think that many people here are missing out on the opportunity for creativity and improved writing offered by posting limits. It doesn't have to be seen as a gag order, except by those who by now most agree need to be gagged. It can be seen as a chance to step back and THINK before typing, and especially before pressing that SEND button. As I have mentioned before, I type faster than most people; the things I write appear on the screen at pretty much the exact moment they appear in my head. I rarely edit what I say at all, and few posts take me more than a couple of minutes. --Barry, September 13, 2011 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/289269
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: Ah, thanks. There is a dairy here, Berkeley Farms, which doesn't sell organic milk, but their milk is BGH free. I buy it when I can. Quite a few brands of supermarket milk are BGH-free these days, apparently due to consumer demand. I'm actually more concerned about the welfare of the cows than BGH's effects on me. I get USDA-certified organic milk at Stop Shop, their house brand, Nature's Promise. I *think* it's produced by Stonyfield, one of the better organic brands. However, sadly, it's ultra-pasteurized. Stop Shop also sells Horizon (boo hiss) and regular branded Stonyfield organic milk for 25 cents more per quart. All ultra-pasteurized. Not too long ago I ran out of milk unexpectedly and had to get a quart of nonorganic milk from the nearby 7-Eleven. Watery and tasteless compared to the organic (and I drink only skim milk). Anybody who's interested in independent ratings of organic milk brands, see here: http://www.cornucopia.org/dairysurvey/index.html --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60 sharelong60@ wrote: Doc I'd have to watch the movie again to find out. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=I+love+trouble Whatever it was, it was something that wasn't generally known about or talked about. It was about an evil chemical company selling hormones to milk producers for their cows that the company knew caused cancer in those who drank the milk. (Actually the movie wasn't about that; it was a romantic comedy with a mystery. The cancer-causing hormone aspect wasn't revealed to be the solution to the mystery until near the end of the film.) The FDA approved the use of synthetic bovine growth hormone in 1993. The movie came out in 1994. There's always been controversy about whether the hormone is safe for humans, but there have been many studies, and there's no conclusive evidence that it's a threat (although it causes health problems in cows, making them more vulnerable to mastitis, which means they're given more antibiotics, and *that* may be the real threat to human health). Bottom line, the movie did not reveal anything that was not already generally known, and it's fictional in that we do *not* know that this hormone causes cancer in humans; as noted, there's no hard evidence to that effect. *Natural* estrogen found in cows' milk *has* been linked (though not conclusively) to increased rates of certain kinds of cancers. But that has nothing to do with bovine growth hormone. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: If you are talking about Strontium-90 in the milk, this has been known about for the last 50 years. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Jason, what makes me take the concept of Kali Yuga literally is the fact that truth about our world often appears mainly or only in novels and movies. An example is the Nick Nolte, Julia Roberts movie I Love Trouble that was all about cancer producing chemicals in milk. BEFORE this was well known! And this is reportedly an aspect of Kali Yuga, that truth is presented as fiction. Also the reverse, falsehood is presented as truth, such as we see too often in politics.
[FairfieldLife] Re: EliminatingAd hominem Post-count on FFL lets return ..YES!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: (Which of course makes Judy our greatest living knower of, and exponent of, said paradox of Brahman!) Leggo my toes, Rory! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: Beautiful...Barry is self-evidently our greatest living exemplar of the paradox of Brahman! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: I will not vote one way or another on this, but I do think that many people here are missing out on the opportunity for creativity and improved writing offered by posting limits. It doesn't have to be seen as a gag order, except by those who by now most agree need to be gagged. It can be seen as a chance to step back and THINK before typing, and especially before pressing that SEND button. As I have mentioned before, I type faster than most people; the things I write appear on the screen at pretty much the exact moment they appear in my head. I rarely edit what I say at all, and few posts take me more than a couple of minutes. --Barry, September 13, 2011 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/289269
[FairfieldLife] Re: EliminatingAd hominem Post-count on FFL lets return ..YES!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: (Which of course makes Judy our greatest living knower of, and exponent of, said paradox of Brahman!) Leggo my toes, Rory! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: Beautiful...Barry is self-evidently our greatest living exemplar of the paradox of Brahman! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: I will not vote one way or another on this, but I do think that many people here are missing out on the opportunity for creativity and improved writing offered by posting limits. It doesn't have to be seen as a gag order, except by those who by now most agree need to be gagged. It can be seen as a chance to step back and THINK before typing, and especially before pressing that SEND button. As I have mentioned before, I type faster than most people; the things I write appear on the screen at pretty much the exact moment they appear in my head. I rarely edit what I say at all, and few posts take me more than a couple of minutes. --Barry, September 13, 2011 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/289269
Re: [FairfieldLife] A day in the life of an SRB
Wow, salyavin, wow! thank you. Now a question: what is that object at 5:49? It looks like the thingie in Star Trek that was used to destroy Vulcan! From: salyavin808 fintlewoodle...@mail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 6:35 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] A day in the life of an SRB http://io9.com/5893615/absolutely-mindblowing-video-shot-from-the-space-shuttle-during-launch
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post
Yay for Radiance Dairy! From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 12:48 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: Ah, thanks. There is a dairy here, Berkeley Farms, which doesn't sell organic milk, but their milk is BGH free. I buy it when I can. Quite a few brands of supermarket milk are BGH-free these days, apparently due to consumer demand. I'm actually more concerned about the welfare of the cows than BGH's effects on me. I get USDA-certified organic milk at Stop Shop, their house brand, Nature's Promise. I *think* it's produced by Stonyfield, one of the better organic brands. However, sadly, it's ultra-pasteurized. Stop Shop also sells Horizon (boo hiss) and regular branded Stonyfield organic milk for 25 cents more per quart. All ultra-pasteurized. Not too long ago I ran out of milk unexpectedly and had to get a quart of nonorganic milk from the nearby 7-Eleven. Watery and tasteless compared to the organic (and I drink only skim milk). Anybody who's interested in independent ratings of organic milk brands, see here: http://www.cornucopia.org/dairysurvey/index.html --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60 sharelong60@ wrote: Doc I'd have to watch the movie again to find out. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=I+love+trouble Whatever it was, it was something that wasn't generally known about or talked about. It was about an evil chemical company selling hormones to milk producers for their cows that the company knew caused cancer in those who drank the milk. (Actually the movie wasn't about that; it was a romantic comedy with a mystery. The cancer-causing hormone aspect wasn't revealed to be the solution to the mystery until near the end of the film.) The FDA approved the use of synthetic bovine growth hormone in 1993. The movie came out in 1994. There's always been controversy about whether the hormone is safe for humans, but there have been many studies, and there's no conclusive evidence that it's a threat (although it causes health problems in cows, making them more vulnerable to mastitis, which means they're given more antibiotics, and *that* may be the real threat to human health). Bottom line, the movie did not reveal anything that was not already generally known, and it's fictional in that we do *not* know that this hormone causes cancer in humans; as noted, there's no hard evidence to that effect. *Natural* estrogen found in cows' milk *has* been linked (though not conclusively) to increased rates of certain kinds of cancers. But that has nothing to do with bovine growth hormone. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: If you are talking about Strontium-90 in the milk, this has been known about for the last 50 years. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Jason, what makes me take the concept of Kali Yuga literally is the fact that truth about our world often appears mainly or only in novels and movies. An example is the Nick Nolte, Julia Roberts movie I Love Trouble that was all about cancer producing chemicals in milk. BEFORE this was well known! And this is reportedly an aspect of Kali Yuga, that truth is presented as fiction. Also the reverse, falsehood is presented as truth, such as we see too often in politics.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Get out the vote (was Jerry Seinfeld on Why He May Never Go Back to TV)
Staying on topic, we really need to find out if the other candidates are entitled to hold as moderator. This may slender down the other contenders progress. Vote fraud is another one of our concerns http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdzlnwWsAAU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdzlnwWsAAU I am getting cold feet, and with the possibility of a post count limit being reinstated, the thought is making me eye that 1800 along with the shot glass. My mantra is the most thought about in my meditation, over and over and over in my head, and I think I need a checking. Wouuu! I need the paper bag, Hyperventilating here! These concerns are time sensitive and with dreaming about going to Ann's and the cool moment to meet with Emily are my only vacation from the gloomy doom I see for this campaign, and this is becoming a no boner. Will someone from the committee, please get on this! I need a vacation, be back in a few days. Going to pack my bag asap. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bobpriced wrote: Ravi, thanks for this. I believe the source of this pathology could be abandonment issues caused by rejection when attempting to share some old bones with another bonehead who appears to not have had a boner in years. He should not take it personally, Barry is like this with everyone; as Ann has pointed out, Barry makes no bones about the fact that the only bones worth anything, are the ones he digs up and delivers covered in his saliva. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com And some study material vis-a-vis Xeno and the psychopathically enlightened - you weren't around dear Bob and I'm not sure if you ever got a chance to read this. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/349088 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Oh a quick note here as well dear Bob. I know you are trying to pull in the *enlightened* vote for me as well but it's important to remember (not to say you aren't already aware of this) that there are three categories of *enlightened here and you need to fine tune your strategy for each of them. Yeah I know they can get pretty picky and technical and a pain in the butt. But the three categories are the - intellectually *enlightened*, the delusionally *enlightened* and the psychopathically enlightened. I hope you are not too confused about the third category - yep I'm referring to the likes of Xeno here. Being extremely stunted emotionally, socially you really need to be careful here - sorry for being so picky, it's not like I don't appreciate your time and effort here. Thanks Bob !!! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Obba, Wilma is a winner. From tonight's traffic I think its save to say the *enlightened* vote is a write off, but its so small we won't notice; I'm a lot more concerned about the delusional's, we'll need them to carry the electoral college, any chance of getting Ravi to do a Rory impersonation till the polls close? I'm trying to find my old intro lecture notes (I save everything), I thought we could use improved Social Behavior and World Peace as talking points for the Raja; do you have any gold leaf in storage? Your tickets are in the mail. If Wilma's busy, how bout Janis---to give him a general idea of the beat the campaign is looking for? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJb7cBfrxbo --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Hey Mr. Price, Bob, May I suggest this style of a C W song for Ravi's campaign. I just love Patsy's voice youtu.be/lx5TZiReKtE?t=25s or Ms. Wilma Burgess (brave beautiful openly lesbian country singer) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZI1-K5YbEk Getting Ravi in the mood for country. Or there always is this song style http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sco_eBvXGTQ call me darling, you never even call me by my name. mm BTW, tentative NE, until my plane ticket arrives... I'll cover the whole southwestern and the whole lower eastern seaboard until then, okay? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com What is this about Raja Ravi's standards are very high? ***I happen to believe you're the only one with the knowledge, consciousness, and chutzpah to moderate this board, but its shaping up to be the race of our lives, and, as your campaign manager, I think it vital you don't peak too early; let Buck and Richard tire themselves out before we make our move; Obba will deliver the North East, and we have Emily in the Pacific Northwest; we'll have to do some sucking up and trade some favors, but leave that to me; after Richard has tires him out, I think
[FairfieldLife] Re: EliminatingAd hominem Post-count on FFL lets return ..YES!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: I will not vote one way or another on this, but I do think that many people here are missing out on the opportunity for creativity and improved writing offered by posting limits. It doesn't have to be seen as a gag order, except by those who by now most agree need to be gagged. It can be seen as a chance to step back and THINK before typing, and especially before pressing that SEND button. As I have mentioned before, I type faster than most people; the things I write appear on the screen at pretty much the exact moment they appear in my head. I rarely edit what I say at all, and few posts take me more than a couple of minutes. --Barry, September 13, 2011 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/289269 Hardly anyone is a speed typist using a laptop with little 'chicklet' keys. One guy I know in IT can type 100 wpm on a standard keyboard, but on a laptop, iPad, or a Droid, he's slow as pouring molasses in Alaska.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Newsroom: Red Team III
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: Have others here not liked this show, and if not, why not? My wife and I just watched the first season on Netflix, and we enjoyed it a lot, for the same reasons you give. Back when the series started, I wrote positively about it, so there is a certain contingent here who felt the need to dump on it simply because I liked it. And, as we have seen here before, I would bet that many of those who did so have never seen a full single episode. Should any of them chime in, ask that question of them directly, and see whether they'll admit that they got pretty much all of their supposed criticisms from other people's reviews. (Rory, remember what I just said about Barry doing it to himself?) I did watch the entire first episode, as Barry would know if he actually read my posts, ;-) and I posted my own review of it, plus an analysis of how it had handled one of its big plot points. If you want to read the posts, Rory: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/313208 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/313140 Later, I also made some comments on a clip Barry had posted from the last episode of the first season: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/318505 (The first episode and that clip were more than enough; I haven't been tempted to watch any more of it.) And back at the beginning, I made two posts analyzing Barry's conspiracy theory (which he echoes below) as to why some of the initial reviews were negative: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/313121 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/313016 I became allergic to Aaron Sorkin some time back, for a variety of reasons. I loved West Wing at first, but Sorkin's writing style eventually began to wear on me; and I really can't abide his frequent lack of concern for authenticity (see the second and third of the posts I listed above). This is funny: ...my early prediction of the series' quality being rewarded with several Emmy nominations came to pass. I imagine that the people mentioned in my first paragraph found that particularly galling. :-) Barry is second to none at imagining that other people suffer from his own petty quirks. ;-) That said, there *were* a lot of criticisms of the show in the media, mainly IMO *from* members of the media, who didn't like their foibles presented so accurately onscreen. Some envy Aaron Sorkin his success, and others envy him his writing ability, so the bottom line of a lot of the criticism is, again IMO, envy. The silliest of the criticisms have to do with the characters of the primary women in the series. So- called feminists complained that they weren't treated seriously. As if women in *any* workplace in America *are* treated as seriously as they deserve to be. I personally think that many of the women in the series are presented as being strong, but at the same time capable of love and stupidity and the ability to make dumb decisions w.r.t. love from time to time. To me, that's a *compassionate* portrayal, putting them on an equal pedestal of capability/stupidity as their male counterparts. :-) The worst of the media criticisms are veiled attempts to create a furor of supposed dislike for the series, in an attempt to get an obviously left-leaning series canceled. That failed, and my early prediction of the series' quality being rewarded with several Emmy nominations came to pass. I imagine that the people mentioned in my first paragraph found that particularly galling. :-) Me, I just enjoy snappy dialogue, at which Sorkin and his team of writers are masters, and I like complex characters who foil attempts to pigeonhole them, of which there are many in this series. Yes, it's main- stream television, and thus must walk that fine line between being entertaining to the masses and actually saying something, but I think it's managed that quite successfully. Glad to hear you liked it. It's one of my Monday morning automatic downloads from the previous Sunday night, US time, along with Dexter, True Blood (now over for the season), Breaking Bad, and (thanks to you reminding me about it) Copper. When it comes to Jane Fonda, I have a particular affection for her because I discovered her early, long before she gained recognition in the US as anything but another example of Hollywood nepotism. After a couple of fluff movies in the US, she moved to France, took up with Roger Vadim, and starred in one of his films called (in English translation) The Game Is Over (a remake of Émile Zola's La curée. I was transfixed. I went back to see it several nights in a row, and started telling all of my film school buddies, This woman is a STAR! Three years later came her first recognized performance, in They Shoot Horses,
[FairfieldLife] Re: EliminatingAd hominem Post-count on FFL lets return ..YES!
Thank you, Minion #20-4-895-48-7-5632. Your efficiency and attention to detail are appreciated. I don't feel, however, that it's likely Mr. PriceD will do any coasting, on his coattails or elsewhere. He has more of a tendency to bounce, and it doesn't really get more suitable than that around here, especially given the size of his application fee. I mean, we wouldn't want to have to give it *back*, now, would we? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: Already done, Judy. Next MGC meeting agenda, Item 2, following a reading of the success parameters for the previous week, shall be Bob's consideration for *full* membership. I do recognize that we are leaning heavily in his favor, and that his substantial application fee has been received, and distributed, amongst charter members. Nonetheless, I should like to see a bit more current evidence of his suitability, vs. ANY appearance of him coasting to victory on his coattails. Respectfully and humbly, Doc Charter Member MGC, Minion #20-4-895-48-7-5632 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bobpriced bobpriced@ wrote: Judy, I love you. You're hilarious. Thank you! That's definitely mutual. Thing is, I can't take much credit; Barry does it to himself, repeatedly. Where can I apply to become a Pip? You have to decide whether you want to be a Pip or a Mean Girl. You're already on track for membership in the MGC, so maybe you should just stick with that? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: I will not vote one way or another on this, but I do think that many people here are missing out on the opportunity for creativity and improved writing offered by posting limits. It doesn't have to be seen as a gag order, except by those who by now most agree need to be gagged. It can be seen as a chance to step back and THINK before typing, and especially before pressing that SEND button. As I have mentioned before, I type faster than most people; the things I write appear on the screen at pretty much the exact moment they appear in my head. I rarely edit what I say at all, and few posts take me more than a couple of minutes. --Barry, September 13, 2011 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/289269 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/289269
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Nidal Hassan Is Found Guilty
I knew those guys. The company was backed by a band leader from Florida. On 08/25/2013 07:18 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: How about Castle Wolfenstein? *From:* Seraphita s3raph...@yahoo.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, August 25, 2013 5:05 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Nidal Hassan Is Found Guilty After the war the game of chess was also forbidden in case it stirred up military ambitions. What would they have thought of Call of Duty and Grand Theft Auto? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: Or the mass-rape of German culture by the Americans after the war. They weren't even allowed to sing their own national anthem in school ! And if their cities were not completely destroyed by allied bombing the new buildings built by architects from all over the world certainly has made the alienation complete. Just go to Berlin and see for yourself, it's a complete mess except for small enclaves dotted around the city that have hold on to some old charm.
[FairfieldLife] Fuck da
Bhairitu: Yahoo is really screwed up as far as sending out the emails. I see several posts on the web site that haven't made via email and may not. You've got to realize that Yahoo! is web-based email, and it's always faster to work off the Yahoo server, clunky as it is. Some of the emails coming in through Thunderbird don't show up until hours later. It takes time to down load with just a 1 mbps Comcast connection using a terminal screen, inside a cubicle down in the basement, especially when you're connected to a wireless access point using wireless g. What you really need is a fast server and your own T-1 line into your house. So, why would you want to do that? Some people just feel better when they have someone to talk to, I guess. Go figure. I even checked my web mail and found a few posts of John's that were marked spam but those were the only FFL emails caught in the spam trap. People here last week were celebrating that Yahoo became a more popular site than Google. But as it turns out Yahoo also took money from the NSA. On 08/26/2013 09:41 AM, sharelong60 wrote: Bhairitu, noozguru, I really tried to keep track, aiming for around 15 per day. But blasted yahoo! Even some of my own posts arrive hours after I post them! So I'm using Message View to keep up and when I reply from there, the reply does not appear in my Sent folder. So the heck with keeping track! Only 54 posts this morning since last night's Post Count. Seems to be trending down so folks may be hitting their stride. On 08/26/2013 08:36 AM, Alex Stanley wrote: The more you feed the energy creature, the more likely it is that Rick will be convinced to reinstate the posting limits.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obombie wants his war
Bhairitu, Obama may not have a choice. It now depends on what the UN wants to do with Assad. If the UN wants him out, then you'll see the American troops in Syrian soil sooner than you may think. According to Shri Yukteshwar, we're now in the Dwapara Yuga. Is humanity more evolved now to avoid WWIII? We'll find out soon. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: Break out those anti-war signs because Obombie wants his war goaded on by the NeoCon devils. Oh the chatter here about is it Kali Yuga or Sat Yuga. Let's see: We have a possibility of WWIII. We have a possibility of human extinction in 13 years (or less). We have Fukushima radioactive water going into the Pacific Ocean and poisoning it. Yup, must be Sat Yuga.
[FairfieldLife] Greg Palast: how bankers conspired to destroy the global financial regulations
In the late 1990s, the top US Treasury officials secretly conspired with a small cabal of banker big-shots to rip apart financial regulation across the planet. The Treasury official playing the bankers' secret End Game was Larry Summers. http://www.gregpalast.com/larry-summers-and-the-secret-end-game-memo/ No such thing as conspiracies, eh? Born yesterday?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Greg Palast: how bankers conspired to destroy the global financial regulations
bhairitu, this Greg Palast is one VERY brave journalist! From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 2:10 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Greg Palast: how bankers conspired to destroy the global financial regulations In the late 1990s, the top US Treasury officials secretly conspired with a small cabal of banker big-shots to rip apart financial regulation across the planet. The Treasury official playing the bankers' secret End Game was Larry Summers. http://www.gregpalast.com/larry-summers-and-the-secret-end-game-memo/ No such thing as conspiracies, eh? Born yesterday?
[FairfieldLife] Re: How the return of Christ would really be greeted
[http://img.scoop.co.nz/stories/images/1308/fish_off_at_fukushim.jpg] Who's going to buy any product marked Caught in Fukushima.While scientists say it's too early to tell how the contamination will affect marine life, test catches have shown that some fish - especially bottom-feeding species, have been affected. I know lot of these fishermen over there and they are in their fifties, in their sixties. They believe that if Fukushima's ever safe to fish again maybe they'll be too old to catch one.There's a sense of hopelessness and pessimism that they'll ever be able to go out and catch fish again http://www.globalresearch.ca/fukushima-global-nuclear-radiation-californ\ ia-fish-contaminated-with-fukushima-radiation/31118 http://www.globalresearch.ca/fukushima-global-nuclear-radiation-califor\ nia-fish-contaminated-with-fukushima-radiation/31118 So now You know why merudanda glows in the night-So Turn the lights off You'll feel the spark Merudanda will make glow it in the dark --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60 wrote: Funny, except missing maybe the most important question of all: any Fukoshima water in that fish? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: [https://sphotos-a-mad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/q71/1240115_43586588985\ \ 5421_1059183013_n.jpg]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obombie wants his war
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: Break out those anti-war signs because Obombie wants his war goaded on by the NeoCon devils. Oh the chatter here about is it Kali Yuga or Sat Yuga. Let's see: We have a possibility of WWIII. We have a possibility of human extinction in 13 years (or less). We have Fukushima radioactive water going into the Pacific Ocean and poisoning it. Yup, must be Sat Yuga. Even more telling, this is what people in Maharishi's Sat Yuga want to know about: http://xkcd.com/1256/ http://xkcd.com/1256/
[FairfieldLife] Post Count, was Fuck da post count, Eliminating Post-count on FFL]
Alex Stanley: The more you feed the energy creature, the more likely it is that Rick will be convinced to reinstate the posting limits. Now this is funny! Some nerd changed the subject line to read 'Fuck da Post Count', and it's not even Wednesday! Well, you've got yer top posters and you got yer bottom posters. The top posters make it easy to read what's on their mind in message view because it's at the top and maybe they didn't really read the whole thread. The bottom posters, we assume, they've at least read the messages up to that point (maybe not), but we have to scroll down a lot on an Ultra Book to see the bottom poster's comments. Go figure. Most of the nerds here don't seem to understand what snipping is all about - I wonder if they're that way in real life social situations? I know a guy that talks incessantly and nobody can get in a word edgewise. Besides, if he did hear one word it's just a good time to go on another rant. He's got this Lazy Boy recliner he likes to sit in, with a laptop computer connected to a Mitsubishi big screen, with cable TV and even Netflix. Yak yak yak all the time. He must be on twenty message boards! Then there's the average buttinski that tries to take over the whole thread and change the topic to smut, sexting, or something about gay and lesbian neo-nazi skinheads up in Canada. It's just disgusting. So, I wouldn't blame Rick - don't even bother to shut it down - tell them to get a Twitter account. LoL! SNIP Yep, the name-calling and the ad hominem certainly are the low forms of argument here and should certainly be outlawed in civil society and on all Yahoo groups as reprehensible abuse. Yes, by stark contrast certainly the best writing and exchange on FFL was in a time when the post count was limited to 35 per week. This list cries out for a limit to abuse and a strong hand of moderation. A strict speed limit of 35 posts per week. -Buck
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How the return of Christ would really be greeted
merudanda, of course *they* will not let people know how badly contaminated the Pacific is from sea to shining er glowing sea. And it might be better for those fishermen that they not fish in those glowy waters, as sad as that must be for them. It is tragedy piled on tragedy and I am sure that none of us yet know the extent of the contamination, the tragedy. Just consider that the winds across American travel generally from west to east... Now on a *lighter* note: merudanda will make it glow in the dark?! That would definitely cause a spark! They could have used him on Noah's arc (-: From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 2:24 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: How the return of Christ would really be greeted Who's going to buy any product marked Caught in Fukushima.While scientists say it's too early to tell how the contamination will affect marine life, test catches have shown that some fish - especially bottom-feeding species, have been affected. I know lot of these fishermen over there and they are in their fifties, in their sixties. They believe that if Fukushima's ever safe to fish again maybe they'll be too old to catch one.There's a sense of hopelessness and pessimism that they'll ever be able to go out and catch fish again http://www.globalresearch.ca/fukushima-global-nuclear-radiation-california-fish-contaminated-with-fukushima-radiation/31118 So now You know why merudanda glows in the night-So Turn the lights off You'll feel the spark Merudanda will make glow it in the dark --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60 wrote: Funny, except missing maybe the most important question of all: any Fukoshima water in that fish? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: [https://sphotos-a-mad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/q71/1240115_43586588985\ 5421_1059183013_n.jpg]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing all the way to the bank!
Forget the ZZ Top beards and the Bayou accents, the Robertsons of West Monroe, La., are a family of traditional American entrepreneurs: ambitious, rich and spectacularly successful. 'A Calculated Push Into Entertainment Lifts `Duck Dynasty' Family's Fortunes' New York Times: http://tinyurl.com/lphcokh http://tinyurl.com/lphcokh http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/26/business/media/duck-dynasty-familys-f\ ortunes-lifted-by-calculated-push-into-reality-tv.html?pagewanted=1_r=0\
[FairfieldLife] Addressing the important issues!
Don't you just hate those right winger, neo-Nazi skinhead punks! The idea that prostitution is a private matter and shouldn't be publicly funded . . . who knows what right-wing-kooky notions they'll come up with next. Go figure. A POSITION TOO RIGHT-WING FOR MODERN SOCIETY TO ACCEPT: That prostitution is a private matter and no public funds should be spent on sex workers. Posted by Glenn Reynolds: http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/174833/ http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/174833/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Recent movies I have seen
Add these to your list if you haven't already seen them: Lost Horizons Stranger in a Strange Land The Man Who Would be King The Razor's Edge Also: The Guru The Sex Guru Bend it Like Beckham Hollywood Bollywood Bride and Prejudice Passage to India http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087892/?ref_=sr_1 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087892/?ref_=sr_1 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087892/?ref_=sr_1
[FairfieldLife] Re: Question re jyotish
Susan, I highly recommend Prasannan in Vancouver. He was Amma's jyotishi for years but met a woman, fell in love and struck out on his own. Tons of integrity. And he uses all the sub charts which I found very illuminating. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote: Bhairitu and anyone else Who do you recommend for a natal chart reading? For one of my sons who is soon to be married. Thanks
[FairfieldLife] Re: Greg Palast: how bankers conspired to destroy the global financial regulations
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: In the late 1990s, the top US Treasury officials secretly conspired with a small cabal of banker big-shots to rip apart financial regulation across the planet. The Treasury official playing the bankers' secret End Game was Larry Summers. http://www.gregpalast.com/larry-summers-and-the-secret-end-game-memo/ No such thing as conspiracies, eh? Born yesterday? Nobody here ever said there were no such things as conspiracies, Bhairitu. Paranoid much?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Question re jyotish
Someone shared their good experiences with me, about this possible source: http://in.linkedin.com/in/pratapkmahapatra http://in.linkedin.com/in/pratapkmahapatra --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wrote: Bhairitu and anyone else Who do you recommend for a natal chart reading? For one of my sons who is soon to be married. Thanks
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fuck da
On 08/26/2013 12:06 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: Bhairitu: Yahoo is really screwed up as far as sending out the emails. I see several posts on the web site that haven't made via email and may not. You've got to realize that Yahoo! is web-based email, and it's always faster to work off the Yahoo server, clunky as it is. Some of the emails coming in through Thunderbird don't show up until hours later. It takes time to down load with just a 1 mbps Comcast connection using a terminal screen, inside a cubicle down in the basement, especially when you're connected to a wireless access point using wireless g. Not true. It's just been a little flaky lately. Most all the emails come through and only occasionally will a few get stuck at the Yahoo mail server. Probably most of the good engineers have left Yahoo. What you really need is a fast server and your own T-1 line into your house. So, why would you want to do that? Get real. Some people just feel better when they have someone to talk to, I guess. Go figure. I even checked my web mail and found a few posts of John's that were marked spam but those were the only FFL emails caught in the spam trap. People here last week were celebrating that Yahoo became a more popular site than Google. But as it turns out Yahoo also took money from the NSA. On 08/26/2013 09:41 AM, sharelong60 wrote: Bhairitu, noozguru, I really tried to keep track, aiming for around 15 per day. But blasted yahoo! Even some of my own posts arrive hours after I post them! So I'm using Message View to keep up and when I reply from there, the reply does not appear in my Sent folder. So the heck with keeping track! Only 54 posts this morning since last night's Post Count. Seems to be trending down so folks may be hitting their stride. On 08/26/2013 08:36 AM, Alex Stanley wrote: The more you feed the energy creature, the more likely it is that Rick will be convinced to reinstate the posting limits.
[FairfieldLife] Visiting London?
Don't be without this handy map: http://www.steveprentice.net/tube/TfLSillyMaps/anagrammap.gif
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Greg Palast: how bankers conspired to destroy the global financial regulations
On 08/26/2013 01:22 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: In the late 1990s, the top US Treasury officials secretly conspired with a small cabal of banker big-shots to rip apart financial regulation across the planet. The Treasury official playing the bankers' secret End Game was Larry Summers. http://www.gregpalast.com/larry-summers-and-the-secret-end-game-memo/ No such thing as conspiracies, eh? Born yesterday? Nobody here ever said there were no such things as conspiracies, Bhairitu. Paranoid much? Where do you derive the idea I am paranoid? The article is informative about some information that has surfaced and why were should be demanding something be done about these crooks. Obviously, I'm jibing back at people who like to call me a conspiracy theorist over such things.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obombie wants his war
Bhairitu: Obombie wants his war You're sounding more and more like a Libertarian every day! Break out those anti-war signs Something tells me you won't be voting for Hillary in the next election. because Obombie wants his war goaded on by the NeoCon devils. That's it - blame it on the Jewish Cabal. It's probably just a false flag event, but who really lobbed the WMD in Syria the other day?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Visiting London?
Heh, I clicked on the map at random, and there wuz me: Edge Grottos Go figure. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote: Don't be without this handy map: http://www.steveprentice.net/tube/TfLSillyMaps/anagrammap.gif
[FairfieldLife] Re: Visiting London?
I used to live near Equal Reasons. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , salyavin808 wrote: Don't be without this handy map: http://www.steveprentice.net/tube/TfLSillyMaps/anagrammap.gif http://www.steveprentice.net/tube/TfLSillyMaps/anagrammap.gif
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Newsroom: Red Team III
Those of you who like to rag on The Newsroom can carry on now, carrying on. Me, I'll carry on enjoying great TV wherever I find it, no matter how many others don't like it. authfriend: Uh, Barrykins, the most recent post expressing any negativity about Newsroom was almost exactly a year ago. No wonder it took so long to get to Barry2's computer.
[FairfieldLife] Re: EliminatingAd hominem Post-count on FFL lets return ..YES!
Bob Price: I love you. You're hilarious. Where can I apply to become a Pip? Sure, but what if you want to be one of the minions? I will not vote one way or another on this, but I do think that many people here are missing out on the opportunity for creativity and improved writing offered by posting limits. It doesn't have to be seen as a gag order, except by those who by now most agree need to be gagged. It can be seen as a chance to step back and THINK before typing, and especially before pressing that SEND button. As I have mentioned before, I type faster than most people; the things I write appear on the screen at pretty much the exact moment they appear in my head. I rarely edit what I say at all, and few posts take me more than a couple of minutes. --Barry, September 13, 2011 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/289269
[FairfieldLife] Re: Visiting London?
And my local stop is Bawdier Analogy (Ealing Broadway). Could have been worse. What's even odder is that the stop smells like Burnt Bacon Rind it seems. Confused? From the Telegraph: The London Underground map has inspired a range of spin-offs over the years, with everything from musical icons to popular restaurants plotted along its interweaving lines. But now a 54-year-old systems analyst from Blackpool has created the most bizarre version to date a map that shows what each station tastes like. James Wannerton tastes words when he reads or hears them thanks to a neurological condition called synaesthesia that links senses which are normally experienced separately. He first noticed each Underground station created a distinct taste aged four when travelling to school with his mother from the family home near Willesden, north London. Since then Mr Wannerton has continued to keep notes and make special trips to London after leaving the city to complete his taste map of the Tube. The 49-year project was finally completed earlier this year. http://tinyurl.com/lgw6syw http://tinyurl.com/lgw6syw --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 wrote: Don't be without this handy map: http://www.steveprentice.net/tube/TfLSillyMaps/anagrammap.gif
[FairfieldLife] Was Voldemort a rapist like Freddy? [was Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Ann, you're just being silly here. That's me, Ann Silly Woelfle Bater. What would you suggest? That I call the police on turq?! I have stopped seriously suggesting things to you a while ago Share. But as a last ditch attempt I would conjecture that you are choosing to ignore the worst post that anyone has directed your way, and frankly, I can understand why as whatever you could say to Barry won't make a bit of difference to him although it might make a difference for you and you are the more important consideration, not BW. A lot worse IMO has been delivered to me on FFL. No there hasn't. Different people are bothered by different forms and content of attacks. I think I'm less bothered by turq because his attacks are straight forward. Whereas I'm very triggered by what I call snide and sly attacks. Interesting. However, attacks aside, the other odious part of his post to you was the fact that it made it so clear how he had felt about you all along and this type of clarity in a moment when he let it all hang out there for everyone to see in black and white was horrendous because the lie that was his 'relationship' with you was exposed. And even now you attempt to engage him in banter as if nothing ever happened. That, to me, is demeaning to yourself and I don't like to see it. From: Ann awoelflebater@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 10:35 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Was Voldemort a rapist like Freddy? [was Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post] Â --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Dr D, what is going on here? Barry is not responsible for Freddie's behavior. Get a grip. No Susan, Barry is not responsible for Fred's behaviour but Barry's behaviour is bad enough and he doesn't take responsibility for that either. You appear to be willing to take that on for him, however. I don't know what 's worse - Share putting up with his abuse of her or you supporting him. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: We were all born in Kali Yuga, which means none of us had what it took to get enlightened for the three previous yugas. Yep, toads. All of us. Seriously, is it any wonder that we ended up HOPPING as our spiritual practice? OK, I get that all of this is a joke, but it is important IMO to remember that Kali Yuga does not exist. It's a made-up human term for a made- up division of time that does not and has never existed. That said, and to continue with your joke, I noticed that no one ever really dealt with the actual *issue* I brought up about whether the Rish actually had any sexual charisma or even attractiveness to explain how he managed to get a few women to have sex with him. People avoided that issue like the plague, playing shoot the messenger instead, like always. So I'll piggyback (or frogback) off Edg's joke to pass along the words of at least three TM women who, even though still part of the TMO, *weren't* afraid to deal with the issue. All three described the idea of having sex with Maharishi using the exact same same words: Have sex with that squat little toad? E. Appropriate somehow that the spiritual practice he brought to the world was hopping like a frog. :-) As for the issue of his attractiveness or non-, any women here who had sexual fantasies about Maharishi (requited or unrequited) are invited to share them with us to provide a counterpoint.
[FairfieldLife] Re: EliminatingAd hominem Post-count on FFL lets return ..YES!
Bob Price: Obviously, to qualify as a Pip or a MG you need to be a minion; Oh, I get it - minion, then Pip, then MG. try and keep up Richard. Yeah, well I'm trying to do the work, Bob. My comment about the night life in Rishikesh TTC was right on topic; I posted all about the duck hunters and the skin headed neo-nazis; I insinuated that Turq was a yuppie and that Barry2 was a geek; I ignored Judy, Ann, Share, Emily, and that other woman, if she is one. What do I have to say - that somebody has a cob up their ass? I tried that and some guy said it was smutty. Go figure. I love you. You're hilarious. Where can I apply to become a Pip? Sure, but what if you want to be one of the minions?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count, was Fuck da post count, Eliminating Post-count on FFL]
you said 'Buttinski'! pinky swear! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams punditster@... wrote: Alex Stanley: The more you feed the energy creature, the more likely it is that Rick will be convinced to reinstate the posting limits. Now this is funny! Some nerd changed the subject line to read 'Fuck da Post Count', and it's not even Wednesday! Well, you've got yer top posters and you got yer bottom posters. The top posters make it easy to read what's on their mind in message view because it's at the top and maybe they didn't really read the whole thread. The bottom posters, we assume, they've at least read the messages up to that point (maybe not), but we have to scroll down a lot on an Ultra Book to see the bottom poster's comments. Go figure. Most of the nerds here don't seem to understand what snipping is all about - I wonder if they're that way in real life social situations? I know a guy that talks incessantly and nobody can get in a word edgewise. Besides, if he did hear one word it's just a good time to go on another rant. He's got this Lazy Boy recliner he likes to sit in, with a laptop computer connected to a Mitsubishi big screen, with cable TV and even Netflix. Yak yak yak all the time. He must be on twenty message boards! Then there's the average buttinski that tries to take over the whole thread and change the topic to smut, sexting, or something about gay and lesbian neo-nazi skinheads up in Canada. It's just disgusting. So, I wouldn't blame Rick - don't even bother to shut it down - tell them to get a Twitter account. LoL! SNIP Yep, the name-calling and the ad hominem certainly are the low forms of argument here and should certainly be outlawed in civil society and on all Yahoo groups as reprehensible abuse. Yes, by stark contrast certainly the best writing and exchange on FFL was in a time when the post count was limited to 35 per week. This list cries out for a limit to abuse and a strong hand of moderation. A strict speed limit of 35 posts per week. -Buck
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post
Bob Price: As I'm sure he knows, I'm a huge fan of Turq's posts; so I'm wondering if anyone would be kind enough to translate this one for me, particularly the last paragraph. It's all about placement and positioning, Bob. In Turq's mind, sex means male thrusting, and he apparently thinks that's what sex means to women too. For lot's of men the penis is the ultimate sex tool. But, it may be that MMY's lovers didn't feel that way at all - maybe they just appreciated the closeness. Or, maybe they just felt sorry for the guy, I don't know. But, according to a study by Shere Hite, over 75% of women don't get satisfaction from penile thrusting. This is going to break Turq's heart, since he is so fascinated with being bonefied, but it may be true about women. Obviously Turq has a male-centric POV. Go figure. But I honestly don't get it with Maharishi. I can see many reasons for a woman devotee wanting to have sex with him, most of them closely tied to the word devotee, but I find it difficult to imagine many of them wanting to bone him because he was...uh...just so bonable.
[FairfieldLife] Re: EliminatingAd hominem Post-count on FFL lets return ..YES!
Don't get me wrong, Bob. I DO like the codependent vibe. If you had gone just a scosh further, and sent the link for Lulu's, To Sir With Love, you'd have been a shoe in. The whole black guy/chubby chaser liberal acceptance would have swayed all of the MGC charter members, I am pretty damned sure. Fuck. Sorry, but try, try, again. After all, the MGC isn't just for anyone, though I have it on good authority that we have freed up additional stock options for new members... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bobpriced bobpriced@... wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJoVcwGgRLw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJoVcwGgRLw --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , doctordumbass@ wrote: Already done, Judy. Next MGC meeting agenda, Item 2, following a reading of the success parameters for the previous week, shall be Bob's consideration for *full* membership. I do recognize that we are leaning heavily in his favor, and that his substantial application fee has been received, and distributed, amongst charter members. Nonetheless, I should like to see a bit more current evidence of his suitability, vs. ANY appearance of him coasting to victory on his coattails. Respectfully and humbly, Doc Charter Member MGC, Minion #20-4-895-48-7-5632 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , bobpriced wrote: Judy, I love you. You're hilarious. Thank you! That's definitely mutual. Thing is, I can't take much credit; Barry does it to himself, repeatedly. Where can I apply to become a Pip? You have to decide whether you want to be a Pip or a Mean Girl. You're already on track for membership in the MGC, so maybe you should just stick with that? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com I will not vote one way or another on this, but I do think that many people here are missing out on the opportunity for creativity and improved writing offered by posting limits. It doesn't have to be seen as a gag order, except by those who by now most agree need to be gagged. It can be seen as a chance to step back and THINK before typing, and especially before pressing that SEND button. As I have mentioned before, I type faster than most people; the things I write appear on the screen at pretty much the exact moment they appear in my head. I rarely edit what I say at all, and few posts take me more than a couple of minutes. --Barry, September 13, 2011 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/289269 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/289269
[FairfieldLife] Re: Nidal Hassan Is Found Guilty
What became of the promise of Virtual Reality (VR) - the computer-simulated environment that mimics places in the real world or imagined worlds? When they manage to pull off that trick to perfection I'll be sold on computer games. Chaos magician Ramsey Dukes claimed (in his book Words Made Flesh) that if they ever do create a simulation that is indistinguishable from one's everyday experience people would have to include in the game's program some distinguishing personal feature - a tattoo, or a missing finger, for example - so that you could always check to see whether you're here, or there. Dukes also claimed that if you could access many worlds via VR that seem as authentic as our consensus reality it would be inevitable that people would start to treat their usual lives as if they also were simulations . . . with intriguing consequences. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: I knew those guys. The company was backed by a band leader from Florida. On 08/25/2013 07:18 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: How about Castle Wolfenstein? *From:* Seraphita s3raphita@... *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, August 25, 2013 5:05 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Nidal Hassan Is Found Guilty After the war the game of chess was also forbidden in case it stirred up military ambitions. What would they have thought of Call of Duty and Grand Theft Auto? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: Or the mass-rape of German culture by the Americans after the war. They weren't even allowed to sing their own national anthem in school ! And if their cities were not completely destroyed by allied bombing the new buildings built by architects from all over the world certainly has made the alienation complete. Just go to Berlin and see for yourself, it's a complete mess except for small enclaves dotted around the city that have hold on to some old charm.
