[FairfieldLife] One for Nabby

2014-05-09 Thread TurquoiseBee
Despite the fact that he lives in Norway, I suspect that at heart he's still 
100% German, and thus might appreciate this handy guide to how others can 
evolve to be German themselves. :-)

Unordered List Adventures: How to Be German in 25 Easy Steps

 
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[FairfieldLife] May Fool Joke?!

2014-05-09 Thread cardemaister
Is Nokia The World's Most Innovative Smartphone Maker? 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/05/nokia-lumina-920-smartphone_n_1859239.html
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: the re-invigoration of Buddhism is started!

2014-05-09 Thread nablusoss1008

 True. Some fellows met Maharishi on his plane in Bangkok before they went out 
to teach. Maharishi told them: Give Buddha back to Thailand. Seems this is 
what is happening since more and more groups of Buddhist monks and schools are 
starting real meditation, gone are the days of endless straining.
 Much to the consternation of the hobby Buddhist's in this group of course. 
Take the Turq; much of his fruitless attacks on TM here is probably fuelled by 
the success of TM in South-East Asia. The other guy is generally challenged and 
has probably not even noticed :-)

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :


 Buddhism will become effective again, as all the worlds religions will. Jai 
Jai Jai Maharishi!

 Asoka Mission - Buddhist School For Girls In Thailand 
http://www.asokamission.com/app/index.php?r=front/default/pagealias=buddhist-school-for-girls-in-thailand#

 
 
 
http://www.asokamission.com/app/index.php?r=front/default/pagealias=buddhist-school-for-girls-in-thailand#
 
 Asoka Mission - Buddhist School For Girls In Thailand 
http://www.asokamission.com/app/index.php?r=front/default/pagealias=buddhist-school-for-girls-in-thailand#
 Something special is happening in Thailand. Over 400 girls are blossoming like 
beautiful lotuses at the Dhammajarinee Witthaya School -- the first Buddhist...


 
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[FairfieldLife] It turns out that America is more insane than I thought

2014-05-09 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Recently I've seen more and more news articles about smart guns, which can be 
personalized such that they can only be fired by their owners or someone 
pre-authorized by them. Ah, I said to myself, this may help in the attempts 
to wake America up to the need for some kind of effective gun control.

Imagine my shock at my own naivete when I read this excellent article, and 
learned how the gun industry and the NRA are already in cahoots -- long before 
an effective smart gun ever appears on the market -- to co-opt the technology 
to eliminate current gun laws and turn America into the carry your gun 
anytime, and anywhere nation they fantasize about in their wet dreams. 


If this is how America reacts to a rare sane idea in the gun control battle, I 
almost hope the members of the NRA succeed in their quest, and turn the country 
into the Everyone-Armed-At-All-Times-Free-For-All Disneyland they hope for. 
Then possibly they'd all shoot each other and the world would finally be a 
saner place. 


Pando at the NRA: The Zuckerberg of guns could save lives and make millions, 
but he'll have to fight the NRA first

 
   Pando at the NRA: The Zuckerberg of guns could...
I flew in to Indianapolis on Friday morning, sleep deprived and dispirited 
after spending a red-eye flight stuck next to a guy with foul breath who passed 
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RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reformed Buddhists

2014-05-09 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Actually that phrasing is ambiguous when it comes to something that's only 
speculative. It can mean either that you don't believe it exists, or that if it 
did exist, you'd be opposed to it. In the case of the death penalty, we know it 
exists, so I don't believe in it can only mean I'm opposed to it. In the 
case of Maharishi's remark, I don't believe in reincarnation could mean one 
or the other, but because we know he does believe in reincarnation, it can only 
mean he's opposed to it. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote :

 There's no distinction. I don't believe in it in this context is just the 
same as saying I don't believe in the death penalty even as people are 
sentenced to death. 

 And it's just the same as the Buddhist monks protesting reincarnation in the 
cartoon.
 

 L
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote :

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of LEnglish5@...
Sent: Thursday, May 8, 2014 1:12 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reformed Buddhists
  
  
 Reincarnation? I don't believe in it -Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
 He didn’t say that. He said he was “opposed” to it. Get the distinction? Means 
he believes in it, but wants people to get liberated so they won’t reincarnate.
  



 










[FairfieldLife] Re: the re-invigoration of Buddhism is started!

2014-05-09 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
My personal view of turq, is that if this were a forum discussing tiddly-winks, 
he'd be in the thick of it. The subject doesn't matter - it is his opposition 
to it, and his ability to criticize those supportive of it, that is important 
to him. Some people get off on the weirdest stuff, and he is no exception.  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 
 True. Some fellows met Maharishi on his plane in Bangkok before they went out 
to teach. Maharishi told them: Give Buddha back to Thailand. Seems this is 
what is happening since more and more groups of Buddhist monks and schools are 
starting real meditation, gone are the days of endless straining.
 Much to the consternation of the hobby Buddhist's in this group of course. 
Take the Turq; much of his fruitless attacks on TM here is probably fuelled by 
the success of TM in South-East Asia. The other guy is generally challenged and 
has probably not even noticed :-)

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :


 Buddhism will become effective again, as all the worlds religions will. Jai 
Jai Jai Maharishi!

 Asoka Mission - Buddhist School For Girls In Thailand 
http://www.asokamission.com/app/index.php?r=front/default/pagealias=buddhist-school-for-girls-in-thailand#

 
 
 
http://www.asokamission.com/app/index.php?r=front/default/pagealias=buddhist-school-for-girls-in-thailand#
 
 Asoka Mission - Buddhist School For Girls In Thailand 
http://www.asokamission.com/app/index.php?r=front/default/pagealias=buddhist-school-for-girls-in-thailand#
 Something special is happening in Thailand. Over 400 girls are blossoming like 
beautiful lotuses at the Dhammajarinee Witthaya School -- the first Buddhist...


 
 View on www.asokamission.com 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the re-invigoration of Buddhism is started!

2014-05-09 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
After doing exactly what I predicted -- dropping out for a while and then 
coming back as the new Jim Flanegin under yet another pseudonym -- it takes 
him only slightly more than 17 hours to reboot his grudge and start attacking a 
person who didn't even comment on his return. Yes, as he says, people get off 
on the weirdest stuff.  :-)




 From: fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, May 9, 2014 2:54 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: the re-invigoration of Buddhism is started!
 


  
My personal view of turq, is that if this were a forum discussing tiddly-winks, 
he'd be in the thick of it. The subject doesn't matter - it is his opposition 
to it, and his ability to criticize those supportive of it, that is important 
to him. Some people get off on the weirdest stuff, and he is no exception. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :




True. Some fellows met Maharishi on his plane in Bangkok before they went out 
to teach. Maharishi told them: Give Buddha back to Thailand. Seems this is 
what is happening since more and more groups of Buddhist monks and schools are 
starting real meditation, gone are the days of endless straining.
Much to the consternation of the hobby Buddhist's in this group of course. 
Take the Turq; much of his fruitless attacks on TM here is probably fuelled by 
the success of TM in South-East Asia. The other guy is generally challenged and 
has probably not even noticed :-)

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :


Buddhism will become effective again, as all the worlds religions will. Jai Jai 
Jai Maharishi!


Asoka Mission - Buddhist School For Girls In Thailand

 
  Asoka Mission - Buddhist School For Girls In Thailand 
Something special is happening in Thailand. Over 400 girls are blossoming like 
beautiful lotuses at the Dhammajarinee Witthaya School -- the first Buddhist... 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than I thought

2014-05-09 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :

 Fanaticism is always ugly - yours, included.
 

 God, Fleetwood, it's good to have you back. 
 Imagine Bawee believing, even for one eentsy beentsy moment, that sanity can 
be returned to a place that has just annihilated itself through mass shooting. 
Or that he would hope such a thing would happen in the first place. On top of 
that Bawee, being an American and living off the fat of the land in one way or 
other despite his residency in a different country, considers himself so above 
such violent lunacy. But, once again, you have caught him in his own hypocrisy. 
Kraft Dinner all around - on me!
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 Recently I've seen more and more news articles about smart guns, which can 
be personalized such that they can only be fired by their owners or someone 
pre-authorized by them. Ah, I said to myself, this may help in the attempts 
to wake America up to the need for some kind of effective gun control.
 

 Imagine my shock at my own naivete when I read this excellent article, and 
learned how the gun industry and the NRA are already in cahoots -- long before 
an effective smart gun ever appears on the market -- to co-opt the technology 
to eliminate current gun laws and turn America into the carry your gun 
anytime, and anywhere nation they fantasize about in their wet dreams. 

 

 If this is how America reacts to a rare sane idea in the gun control battle, I 
almost hope the members of the NRA succeed in their quest, and turn the country 
into the Everyone-Armed-At-All-Times-Free-For-All Disneyland they hope for. 
Then possibly they'd all shoot each other and the world would finally be a 
saner place. 

 

 Pando at the NRA: The Zuckerberg of guns could save lives and make millions, 
but he'll have to fight the NRA first
 

 
 
 
http://pando.com/2014/05/07/the-zuckerberg-of-guns-could-save-lives-and-make-millions-for-the-industry-but-hell-have-to-fight-the-nra-first/
 
 Pando at the NRA: The Zuckerberg of guns could... I flew in to Indianapolis 
on Friday morning, sleep deprived and dispirited after spending a red-eye 
flight stuck next to a guy with foul breath who passed ou...


 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the re-invigoration of Buddhism is started!

2014-05-09 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 After doing exactly what I predicted -- dropping out for a while and then 
coming back as the new Jim Flanegin under yet another pseudonym -- it takes 
him only slightly more than 17 hours to reboot his grudge and start attacking a 
person who didn't even comment on his return. Yes, as he says, people get off 
on the weirdest stuff.  :-)

 

 I always love how you start off so many of your diatribes with this statement, 
oh wise sage. But it doesn't take a seer to figure out Mac and Cheese is going 
to swat the mosquito when he senses it in the room. It's as simple as 
predicting I'm going to call you on all your shit until, well, until I tire 
of it or it stops smelling the place up.
 

 From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, May 9, 2014 2:54 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: the re-invigoration of Buddhism is started!
 
 
   My personal view of turq, is that if this were a forum discussing 
tiddly-winks, he'd be in the thick of it. The subject doesn't matter - it is 
his opposition to it, and his ability to criticize those supportive of it, that 
is important to him. Some people get off on the weirdest stuff, and he is no 
exception. 
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 
 True. Some fellows met Maharishi on his plane in Bangkok before they went out 
to teach. Maharishi told them: Give Buddha back to Thailand. Seems this is 
what is happening since more and more groups of Buddhist monks and schools are 
starting real meditation, gone are the days of endless straining.
 Much to the consternation of the hobby Buddhist's in this group of course. 
Take the Turq; much of his fruitless attacks on TM here is probably fuelled by 
the success of TM in South-East Asia. The other guy is generally challenged and 
has probably not even noticed :-)

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :


 Buddhism will become effective again, as all the worlds religions will. Jai 
Jai Jai Maharishi!

 Asoka Mission - Buddhist School For Girls In Thailand 
http://www.asokamission.com/app/index.php?r=front/default/pagealias=buddhist-school-for-girls-in-thailand#

 
 
 
http://www.asokamission.com/app/index.php?r=front/default/pagealias=buddhist-school-for-girls-in-thailand#
 
 Asoka Mission - Buddhist School For Girls In Thailand Something special is 
happening in Thailand. Over 400 girls are blossoming like beautiful lotuses at 
the Dhammajarinee Witthaya School -- the first Buddhist...


 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the re-invigoration of Buddhism is started!

2014-05-09 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
It isn't a grudge, Barry, and it's hardly weird. There are quite a few of 
us here who feel exactly as he does about your behavior (as you may perhaps 
have noticed). It's not as if you'd turned over a new leaf since he left, is 
it, now? 

 Nor is it as though you never attacked anybody except in response to some 
negative comment they'd made about you. Your tendency to project your own 
tendencies onto those you want to criticize is one of your most prounced 
narcissistic traits.
 

 Also, any of us could have predicted what you did, that Jim would return 
with a new handle after taking his new mobile home for a spin.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 After doing exactly what I predicted -- dropping out for a while and then 
coming back as the new Jim Flanegin under yet another pseudonym -- it takes 
him only slightly more than 17 hours to reboot his grudge and start attacking a 
person who didn't even comment on his return. Yes, as he says, people get off 
on the weirdest stuff.  :-)

 

 From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, May 9, 2014 2:54 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: the re-invigoration of Buddhism is started!
 
 
   My personal view of turq, is that if this were a forum discussing 
tiddly-winks, he'd be in the thick of it. The subject doesn't matter - it is 
his opposition to it, and his ability to criticize those supportive of it, that 
is important to him. Some people get off on the weirdest stuff, and he is no 
exception. 
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 
 True. Some fellows met Maharishi on his plane in Bangkok before they went out 
to teach. Maharishi told them: Give Buddha back to Thailand. Seems this is 
what is happening since more and more groups of Buddhist monks and schools are 
starting real meditation, gone are the days of endless straining.
 Much to the consternation of the hobby Buddhist's in this group of course. 
Take the Turq; much of his fruitless attacks on TM here is probably fuelled by 
the success of TM in South-East Asia. The other guy is generally challenged and 
has probably not even noticed :-)

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :


 Buddhism will become effective again, as all the worlds religions will. Jai 
Jai Jai Maharishi!

 Asoka Mission - Buddhist School For Girls In Thailand 
http://www.asokamission.com/app/index.php?r=front/default/pagealias=buddhist-school-for-girls-in-thailand#

 
 
 
http://www.asokamission.com/app/index.php?r=front/default/pagealias=buddhist-school-for-girls-in-thailand#
 
 Asoka Mission - Buddhist School For Girls In Thailand Something special is 
happening in Thailand. Over 400 girls are blossoming like beautiful lotuses at 
the Dhammajarinee Witthaya School -- the first Buddhist...


 
 View on www.asokamission.com 
http://www.asokamission.com/app/index.php?r=front/default/pagealias=buddhist-school-for-girls-in-thailand#
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[FairfieldLife] Too True

2014-05-09 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]




[FairfieldLife] For Share on This Friday

2014-05-09 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]




Re: [FairfieldLife] calm the situation in Ukraine-you can help!

2014-05-09 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/8/2014 9:52 PM, Michael Jackson wrote:
 and you are ignoring the violence inthe Ukraine, the fact that Jews 
 now have to register and all that??? 
 
Apparently that was a hoax. And nobody on FFL seems to want to talk 
about the neo-Nazi skinheads fomenting the violence.  According to what 
I've read, the majority of the people want to remain united as Ukraine. 
It looks like there was a political coup in Ukraine,  so we don't really 
know who are the legitimate leaders over there. And, you're not helping 
much spreading false rumors about everyone.

Go figure.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] calm the situation in Ukraine-you can help!

2014-05-09 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

On 5/8/2014 10:08 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
Jews do NOT have to register in the Ukraine. I already told you that. 
Why are you repeating it?


Maybe because MJ is a FFL agitator? Or, maybe because he doesn't even 
read the messages here. If he would include the quote he is referring 
to, we could know what his point is. But, it probably is all about 
Nabby. Go figure.



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Re: [FairfieldLife] One for Nabby

2014-05-09 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

On 5/9/2014 1:26 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote:
Despite the fact that he lives in Norway, I suspect that at heart he's 
still 100% German, and thus might appreciate this handy guide to how 
others can evolve to be German themselves. :-)


So, it's all about Nabby in Norway, but you don't want to talk about the 
neo-Nazi skinhead cult in Holland. Go figure.



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Re: [FairfieldLife] North Korea Insults Obama

2014-05-09 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Freaking gooks! Thay can't call our president filthy racist names! Only *we* 
can call him flithy racist names! 
On Thursday, May 8, 2014 5:12 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com wrote:
  
  
This is worse than Sterling's version.   And, we thought the dictator was a 
friend of Rodman's.  What happened?

http://theweek.com/article/index/261229/speedreads-north-korea-launches-vicious-racist-attack-on-obama


  
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Prez is in the area

2014-05-09 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
He just wants to *identify* with the *little* people and show everybody that 
he's just one of us. 
On Thursday, May 8, 2014 7:18 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
  
  
And guess where he's going tomorrow!  Walmart!  (The one in Mountain 
View).  weird

Must be shopping for Mother's Day.

  
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than I thought

2014-05-09 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Barry, I doubt America will ever be 100% armed and dangerous. However,the 
violent criminally mind percentage will be and there will be enough of the rest 
of us, to at least, keep them guessing as to who is and who isn't armed.  Do 
you feel lucky today...well do you, punk?
On Friday, May 9, 2014 6:25 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
  
  




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :


Fanaticism is always ugly - yours, included.

God, Fleetwood, it's good to have you back. 
Imagine Bawee believing, even for one eentsy beentsy moment, that sanity can 
be returned to a place that has just annihilated itself through mass shooting. 
Or that he would hope such a thing would happen in the first place. On top of 
that Bawee, being an American and living off the fat of the land in one way or 
other despite his residency in a different country, considers himself so above 
such violent lunacy. But, once again, you have caught him in his own hypocrisy. 
Kraft Dinner all around - on me!



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :


Recently I've seen more and more news articles about smart guns, which can be 
personalized such that they can only be fired by their owners or someone 
pre-authorized by them. Ah, I said to myself, this may help in the attempts 
to wake America up to the need for some kind of effective gun control.

Imagine my shock at my own naivete when I read this excellent article, and 
learned how the gun industry and the NRA are already in cahoots -- long before 
an effective smart gun ever appears on the market -- to co-opt the technology 
to eliminate current gun laws and turn America into the carry your gun 
anytime, and anywhere nation they fantasize about in their wet dreams. 


If this is how America reacts to a rare sane idea in the gun control battle, I 
almost hope the members of the NRA succeed in their quest, and turn the country 
into the Everyone-Armed-At-All-Times-Free-For-All Disneyland they hope for. 
Then possibly they'd all shoot each other and the world would finally be a 
saner place. 


Pando at the NRA: The
Zuckerberg of guns could save lives and make millions, but he'll have to 
fight the NRA first

 
   Pando at the NRA: The Zuckerberg of guns could...
I flew in to Indianapolis on Friday morning, sleep deprived and dispirited 
after spending a red-eye flight stuck next to a guy with foul breath who passed 
ou...  
View on pando.com Preview by Yahoo  
  
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the re-invigoration of Buddhism is started!

2014-05-09 Thread emilymae...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Ahhh...Barry sees trends..., except his own, of course.  I laughed pretty 
hard when he latched onto that spiel, which went on and on for quite a while, 
as I remember.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 After doing exactly what I predicted -- dropping out for a while and then 
coming back as the new Jim Flanegin under yet another pseudonym -- it takes 
him only slightly more than 17 hours to reboot his grudge and start attacking a 
person who didn't even comment on his return. Yes, as he says, people get off 
on the weirdest stuff.  :-)

 

 I always love how you start off so many of your diatribes with this statement, 
oh wise sage. But it doesn't take a seer to figure out Mac and Cheese is going 
to swat the mosquito when he senses it in the room. It's as simple as 
predicting I'm going to call you on all your shit until, well, until I tire 
of it or it stops smelling the place up.
 

 From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, May 9, 2014 2:54 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: the re-invigoration of Buddhism is started!
 
 
   My personal view of turq, is that if this were a forum discussing 
tiddly-winks, he'd be in the thick of it. The subject doesn't matter - it is 
his opposition to it, and his ability to criticize those supportive of it, that 
is important to him. Some people get off on the weirdest stuff, and he is no 
exception. 
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 
 True. Some fellows met Maharishi on his plane in Bangkok before they went out 
to teach. Maharishi told them: Give Buddha back to Thailand. Seems this is 
what is happening since more and more groups of Buddhist monks and schools are 
starting real meditation, gone are the days of endless straining.
 Much to the consternation of the hobby Buddhist's in this group of course. 
Take the Turq; much of his fruitless attacks on TM here is probably fuelled by 
the success of TM in South-East Asia. The other guy is generally challenged and 
has probably not even noticed :-)

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :


 Buddhism will become effective again, as all the worlds religions will. Jai 
Jai Jai Maharishi!

 Asoka Mission - Buddhist School For Girls In Thailand 
http://www.asokamission.com/app/index.php?r=front/default/pagealias=buddhist-school-for-girls-in-thailand#

 
 
 
http://www.asokamission.com/app/index.php?r=front/default/pagealias=buddhist-school-for-girls-in-thailand#
 
 Asoka Mission - Buddhist School For Girls In Thailand Something special is 
happening in Thailand. Over 400 girls are blossoming like beautiful lotuses at 
the Dhammajarinee Witthaya School -- the first Buddhist...


 
 View on www.asokamission.com 
http://www.asokamission.com/app/index.php?r=front/default/pagealias=buddhist-school-for-girls-in-thailand#
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 






 


 















Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the re-invigoration of Buddhism is started!

2014-05-09 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
All that time with Fred made him psychic.:-)
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote :

 Ahhh...Barry sees trends..., except his own, of course.  I laughed pretty 
hard when he latched onto that spiel, which went on and on for quite a while, 
as I remember.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 After doing exactly what I predicted -- dropping out for a while and then 
coming back as the new Jim Flanegin under yet another pseudonym -- it takes 
him only slightly more than 17 hours to reboot his grudge and start attacking a 
person who didn't even comment on his return. Yes, as he says, people get off 
on the weirdest stuff.  :-)

 

 I always love how you start off so many of your diatribes with this statement, 
oh wise sage. But it doesn't take a seer to figure out Mac and Cheese is going 
to swat the mosquito when he senses it in the room. It's as simple as 
predicting I'm going to call you on all your shit until, well, until I tire 
of it or it stops smelling the place up.
 

 From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, May 9, 2014 2:54 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: the re-invigoration of Buddhism is started!
 
 
   My personal view of turq, is that if this were a forum discussing 
tiddly-winks, he'd be in the thick of it. The subject doesn't matter - it is 
his opposition to it, and his ability to criticize those supportive of it, that 
is important to him. Some people get off on the weirdest stuff, and he is no 
exception. 
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 
 True. Some fellows met Maharishi on his plane in Bangkok before they went out 
to teach. Maharishi told them: Give Buddha back to Thailand. Seems this is 
what is happening since more and more groups of Buddhist monks and schools are 
starting real meditation, gone are the days of endless straining.
 Much to the consternation of the hobby Buddhist's in this group of course. 
Take the Turq; much of his fruitless attacks on TM here is probably fuelled by 
the success of TM in South-East Asia. The other guy is generally challenged and 
has probably not even noticed :-)

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :


 Buddhism will become effective again, as all the worlds religions will. Jai 
Jai Jai Maharishi!

 Asoka Mission - Buddhist School For Girls In Thailand 
http://www.asokamission.com/app/index.php?r=front/default/pagealias=buddhist-school-for-girls-in-thailand#

 
 
 
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 Asoka Mission - Buddhist School For Girls In Thailand Something special is 
happening in Thailand. Over 400 girls are blossoming like beautiful lotuses at 
the Dhammajarinee Witthaya School -- the first Buddhist...


 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than I thought

2014-05-09 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
or how about, Flitting??
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote :

 Fleetwood!  Can I call you Fleeting...?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :

 Fanaticism is always ugly - yours, included.
 

 God, Fleetwood, it's good to have you back. 
 Imagine Bawee believing, even for one eentsy beentsy moment, that sanity can 
be returned to a place that has just annihilated itself through mass shooting. 
Or that he would hope such a thing would happen in the first place. On top of 
that Bawee, being an American and living off the fat of the land in one way or 
other despite his residency in a different country, considers himself so above 
such violent lunacy. But, once again, you have caught him in his own hypocrisy. 
Kraft Dinner all around - on me!
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 Recently I've seen more and more news articles about smart guns, which can 
be personalized such that they can only be fired by their owners or someone 
pre-authorized by them. Ah, I said to myself, this may help in the attempts 
to wake America up to the need for some kind of effective gun control.
 

 Imagine my shock at my own naivete when I read this excellent article, and 
learned how the gun industry and the NRA are already in cahoots -- long before 
an effective smart gun ever appears on the market -- to co-opt the technology 
to eliminate current gun laws and turn America into the carry your gun 
anytime, and anywhere nation they fantasize about in their wet dreams. 

 

 If this is how America reacts to a rare sane idea in the gun control battle, I 
almost hope the members of the NRA succeed in their quest, and turn the country 
into the Everyone-Armed-At-All-Times-Free-For-All Disneyland they hope for. 
Then possibly they'd all shoot each other and the world would finally be a 
saner place. 

 

 Pando at the NRA: The Zuckerberg of guns could save lives and make millions, 
but he'll have to fight the NRA first
 

 
 
 
http://pando.com/2014/05/07/the-zuckerberg-of-guns-could-save-lives-and-make-millions-for-the-industry-but-hell-have-to-fight-the-nra-first/
 
 Pando at the NRA: The Zuckerberg of guns could... I flew in to Indianapolis 
on Friday morning, sleep deprived and dispirited after spending a red-eye 
flight stuck next to a guy with foul breath who passed ou...


 
 View on pando.com 
http://pando.com/2014/05/07/the-zuckerberg-of-guns-could-save-lives-and-make-millions-for-the-industry-but-hell-have-to-fight-the-nra-first/
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[FairfieldLife] Josh Thomas's Roustabout Lesson Plan - for Curtis

2014-05-09 Thread emilymae...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Hi Curtis:
 

 Have you seen this?  I love this, in that, for one, it is a wonderful lesson 
plan that throws out great ideas.  Check out the lyrics of this version of the 
song (scroll down). Smile.  Folk music lyrics reflect the essence of folk music 
do they not?  Always changing.  There is a new CD out as of August 13 - Classic 
Banjo. 
 

 Smithsonian Folkways - Lesson Plan - Josh Thomas’ Roustabout 
http://www.folkways.si.edu/tools_for_teaching/josh-thomas-roustabout.aspx  
 
 
 http://www.folkways.si.edu/tools_for_teaching/josh-thomas-roustabout.aspx 
 
 Smithsonian Folkways - Lesson Plan - Josh Thomas... 
http://www.folkways.si.edu/tools_for_teaching/josh-thomas-roustabout.aspx 
Exploring Composition Using Limited Tones. Students will use Mike Seeger’s 
performance of “Josh Thomas’s Roustabout” as a gateway to exploring...
 
 
 
 View on www.folkways.si.edu 
http://www.folkways.si.edu/tools_for_teaching/josh-thomas-roustabout.aspx 
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 Smithsonian Folkways - Classic Banjo from Smithsonian Folkways - Various 
Artists 
https://www.folkways.si.edu/classic-banjo-from-folkways/american-folk-bluegrass-country-old-time/album/smithsonian

 
 
 
https://www.folkways.si.edu/classic-banjo-from-folkways/american-folk-bluegrass-country-old-time/album/smithsonian
 
 
 Smithsonian Folkways - Classic Banjo from Smiths... 
https://www.folkways.si.edu/classic-banjo-from-folkways/american-folk-bluegrass-country-old-time/album/smithsonian
 The banjo is a “bigger than life” instrument, a symbol of deep southern 
American heritage. 
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than I thought

2014-05-09 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Couple of caveats. I think the NRA has done a lot of harm to the county and I 
am appalled at the power they wield in US politics beyond all reason. I am not 
a member and not a fan of the NRA for lots of reasons. But I also grew up 
within hunting culture which means gun culture. I knew how to  check if a gun 
was loaded to sure no one got hurt by elementary school. ( I believe all kids 
should learn this life saving skill.)

But the smart gun is no solution to anything except maybe the company who gets 
to cash in on the hype. The thing about guns in America is that the ship 
already sailed. We have guns out the wazoo and there will be no retrofitting 
all of them with anything. If we never made or imported another gun we would 
still have a gun problem. I put that in quotes because since I saw Bowling 
for Columbine by Michael Moore and found out how many guns the relatively 
pacifist Canadians have. I now see the issue as a people problem.

So smart gun tech will not solve our problem with people shooting each other, 
and if you have kids and own a gun, and the gun is not in a safe, (a real one 
that costs enough to actually work) and your kids shoots someone, you need to 
go to jail dad or mom.

I live in a high crime area. I do not have a carry permit but I own a gun. I 
like the idea that if someone breaks in I have a chance to defend my life. I 
also know that this is the most long shot (funny choice of words) threat to my 
life as I careen around the beltway of DC where people die every day. But even 
so the fact is that where I live this does happen and as a guy who walks in and 
out of his door every day with thousands of dollars of musical gear many times 
a week, I do actually have a bit of a target on my door. And if I should ever 
have to use deadly force to defend myself against people desperate enough to 
come into my crib with evil intent, I am not trusting the same guys who make it 
impossible for me to put anyone on hold on my phone, or who turn my computer 
into a brick every time I play a freak'n Youtube video to make sure my gun 
works without a quick reboot to reset whatever twitchy tech bullshit is 
keeping me from saying please shop elsewhere at 140 decibels.

America does seem to have a shooting each other problem.It may not have any 
simple solution. But I don't believe that pursuing make believe solutions to 
make ourselves feel better that we are doing SOMETHING is the answer.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 Recently I've seen more and more news articles about smart guns, which can 
be personalized such that they can only be fired by their owners or someone 
pre-authorized by them. Ah, I said to myself, this may help in the attempts 
to wake America up to the need for some kind of effective gun control.
 

 Imagine my shock at my own naivete when I read this excellent article, and 
learned how the gun industry and the NRA are already in cahoots -- long before 
an effective smart gun ever appears on the market -- to co-opt the technology 
to eliminate current gun laws and turn America into the carry your gun 
anytime, and anywhere nation they fantasize about in their wet dreams. 

 

 If this is how America reacts to a rare sane idea in the gun control battle, I 
almost hope the members of the NRA succeed in their quest, and turn the country 
into the Everyone-Armed-At-All-Times-Free-For-All Disneyland they hope for. 
Then possibly they'd all shoot each other and the world would finally be a 
saner place. 

 

 Pando at the NRA: The Zuckerberg of guns could save lives and make millions, 
but he'll have to fight the NRA first
 

 
 
 
http://pando.com/2014/05/07/the-zuckerberg-of-guns-could-save-lives-and-make-millions-for-the-industry-but-hell-have-to-fight-the-nra-first/
 
 Pando at the NRA: The Zuckerberg of guns could... I flew in to Indianapolis 
on Friday morning, sleep deprived and dispirited after spending a red-eye 
flight stuck next to a guy with foul breath who passed ou...


 
 View on pando.com 
http://pando.com/2014/05/07/the-zuckerberg-of-guns-could-save-lives-and-make-millions-for-the-industry-but-hell-have-to-fight-the-nra-first/
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Sanskrit Reverberation and EEG, and MUM

2014-05-09 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Observation, hypothesis, test. The primary Spirit of Maharishi as scientist 
using modern and cutting edge science over spirituality is very alive, able and 
well at Maharishi University of Management, studying and testing spirituality. 
It was extremely interesting and relevant to see the data pairs being tested 
and the results that are so evident even to the naked eye. The haters here 
would be alternately depressed and illumined if they actually considered the 
data and implications. -Buck  
 
 The slide pictures from India and the pundits chanting there were good 
verification too. It is certainly a big research project in science and 
spirituality going on there. Fred with his EEG equipment stayed there and went 
in setting up test trials of various data pairs at one of the campus there with 
1500 resident pundits chanting. It is really interesting science that even 
sophists, atheists, and agnostics here with open minds could be excited by. 
-Buck 
 Dateline Fairfield, Iowa, Meditating Community:  
 Fabulous lecture tonite. Yes there is quite a significant difference between 
non-meditators, meditators, and advanced Patanjali meditators in brain EEG 
global coherence; and then listening to Sanskrit chanted slowly as Maharishi 
prescribed, the recitation reverberations in the subtle system evidently 
improving each class of coherence seemingly better than even listening to just 
anything else [even listening to Baroque music]. 
  Remarkable science of hypothesis paired testing to figure this all out.  
Fascinating really.  Om, how our poor TM and Maharishi haters here shall eat 
crow**. -Buck at the Consciousness-based University 
 **Eating crow is an American colloquial idiom 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiom,[1] 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eating_crow#cite_note-oed3a-1 meaning humiliation 
by admitting wrongness or having been proved wrong after taking a strong 
position.[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eating_crow#cite_note-www-2 Crow 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crow is presumably foul-tasting in the same way 
that being proved wrong might be emotionally hard to swallow. -Wikip
 

 ==
 

 Really important meeting tonite.
 

 

 EEG PATTERNS WHEN LISTENING TO VEDIC RECITATION
DALBY HALL
MAY 8th, 2014

 Tonite 8pm
 

 Join Dr. Fred Travis in exploring what happens to the brain when listening to 
Vedic recitation compared to the practice of transcending meditation, and find 
out about the ongoing research program that is being developed to explore these 
effects.

 

 Reverberation in Spiritual Practice:   
 

 ..within each individual through the practice of Transcendental Meditation 
and the Vedic sound reverberations, the Vedic texts recited. You can enliven 
the whole body, the whole physiology.  
 

 ..In modern science, in order to materialize a theory, a scientist is needed. 
Listen to this carefully. In modern science, for a theory to be materialized, a 
scientist needs to put the theory to practice. In the Vedic world, in Vedic 
knowledge, in Vedic science, the scientist himself is the embodiment of the 
theory, is the embodiment of the principles, because it is self-referral in its 
own quality.
 From within itself it is Total Knowledge, it is total power, it is total 
activity. This is Vedic speech, Vedic reverberations, Vedic sound. Vedic sounds 
themselves operate. And this has given a completely new approach to perfect 
health. Perfect health means perfection in every field for everyone on earth.
  -Maharishi, inaugural address on January 12, 2000.
 

 

 The Fairfield Meditating Community:
 
 
 
 “We are a group of people who have come together and created a community for a 
transcendentally important common purpose, which of course is to practice the 
Transcendental Meditation program and the TM-Sidhi program together as a group, 
for the sake of bringing coherence to national and world consciousness based on 
balancing labor and leisure to meditate while working together for the benefit 
of the community. Our Super-Radiance meditating community includes families of 
all the TM-Meditators and TM-Sidhas in the Fairfield, Vedic City and Jefferson 
County area.”  
 


 









[FairfieldLife] when tech works like it is supposed to

2014-05-09 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I am overlooking canyons and a ranch, miles from any habitation, and still have 
connectivity - using a mobile hot spot. To use a laptop over cell networks 
(tethering) used to be really expensive, and kludgy, but the issues have been 
worked out. The hotspot is the size of a deck of cards, and allows me to 
wirelessly connect my PC anywhere I can catch a cell signal. Also uses 
automatic WPS syncing, so that adding devices to the network is really easy, 
and secure. Very cool, and ironically, about 5x faster than my DSL land line in 
Silicon Valley.
 

 



[FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than I thought

2014-05-09 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I agree with the gun saturation making this a big problem, regardless if all 
gun sales were stopped today. My dad had quite a collection - hundreds - and 
one thing I can say, is that guns last. Not like a modern appliance, where 
circuits or electronics can stop working, or a plastic part eventually breaks. 
Guns are built with a few working parts, all metal, and will continue to 
accurately function for a hundred years, or more. I still have a .32 colt 
semi-automatic, and a couple of .38 revolvers, colt and sw - not so much for 
protection, as for target shooting.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote :

 Couple of caveats. I think the NRA has done a lot of harm to the county and I 
am appalled at the power they wield in US politics beyond all reason. I am not 
a member and not a fan of the NRA for lots of reasons. But I also grew up 
within hunting culture which means gun culture. I knew how to  check if a gun 
was loaded to sure no one got hurt by elementary school. ( I believe all kids 
should learn this life saving skill.)

But the smart gun is no solution to anything except maybe the company who gets 
to cash in on the hype. The thing about guns in America is that the ship 
already sailed. We have guns out the wazoo and there will be no retrofitting 
all of them with anything. If we never made or imported another gun we would 
still have a gun problem. I put that in quotes because since I saw Bowling 
for Columbine by Michael Moore and found out how many guns the relatively 
pacifist Canadians have. I now see the issue as a people problem.

So smart gun tech will not solve our problem with people shooting each other, 
and if you have kids and own a gun, and the gun is not in a safe, (a real one 
that costs enough to actually work) and your kids shoots someone, you need to 
go to jail dad or mom.

I live in a high crime area. I do not have a carry permit but I own a gun. I 
like the idea that if someone breaks in I have a chance to defend my life. I 
also know that this is the most long shot (funny choice of words) threat to my 
life as I careen around the beltway of DC where people die every day. But even 
so the fact is that where I live this does happen and as a guy who walks in and 
out of his door every day with thousands of dollars of musical gear many times 
a week, I do actually have a bit of a target on my door. And if I should ever 
have to use deadly force to defend myself against people desperate enough to 
come into my crib with evil intent, I am not trusting the same guys who make it 
impossible for me to put anyone on hold on my phone, or who turn my computer 
into a brick every time I play a freak'n Youtube video to make sure my gun 
works without a quick reboot to reset whatever twitchy tech bullshit is 
keeping me from saying please shop elsewhere at 140 decibels.

America does seem to have a shooting each other problem.It may not have any 
simple solution. But I don't believe that pursuing make believe solutions to 
make ourselves feel better that we are doing SOMETHING is the answer.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 Recently I've seen more and more news articles about smart guns, which can 
be personalized such that they can only be fired by their owners or someone 
pre-authorized by them. Ah, I said to myself, this may help in the attempts 
to wake America up to the need for some kind of effective gun control.
 

 Imagine my shock at my own naivete when I read this excellent article, and 
learned how the gun industry and the NRA are already in cahoots -- long before 
an effective smart gun ever appears on the market -- to co-opt the technology 
to eliminate current gun laws and turn America into the carry your gun 
anytime, and anywhere nation they fantasize about in their wet dreams. 

 

 If this is how America reacts to a rare sane idea in the gun control battle, I 
almost hope the members of the NRA succeed in their quest, and turn the country 
into the Everyone-Armed-At-All-Times-Free-For-All Disneyland they hope for. 
Then possibly they'd all shoot each other and the world would finally be a 
saner place. 

 

 Pando at the NRA: The Zuckerberg of guns could save lives and make millions, 
but he'll have to fight the NRA first
 

 
 
 
http://pando.com/2014/05/07/the-zuckerberg-of-guns-could-save-lives-and-make-millions-for-the-industry-but-hell-have-to-fight-the-nra-first/
 
 Pando at the NRA: The Zuckerberg of guns could... I flew in to Indianapolis 
on Friday morning, sleep deprived and dispirited after spending a red-eye 
flight stuck next to a guy with foul breath who passed ou...


 
 View on pando.com 
http://pando.com/2014/05/07/the-zuckerberg-of-guns-could-save-lives-and-make-millions-for-the-industry-but-hell-have-to-fight-the-nra-first/
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than I thought

2014-05-09 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
While I agree with you that the problem is probably unresolvable at this point 
because 1) there are too many guns already to ever be controlled, 2) there 
would be a huge black market of them if they ever *were* truly controlled,  and 
3) Americans really *do* have a people problem that is larger than its gun 
problem, I was nonetheless horrified that the gun manufacturers and the NRA 
could be so crazy as to try to use the smart gun thing to make guns MORE 
available. And to argue that owning a smart gun should allow the person who 
owns it to get on a plane with it. That speaks to me of a country beyond 
repair, and possibly beyond the hope of rehabilitation. 


I completely agree with you that if a child (or anyone) dies as the result of a 
gun kept in the home, at the hands of one of their children, both parents 
should be tried for murder and spend the rest of their lives in prison. And I 
do feel fortunate to live in a country that avoided the gun insanity that 
America fell prey to. 



 From: curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, May 9, 2014 5:00 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than I 
thought
 


  
Couple of caveats. I think the NRA has done a lot of harm to the county and I 
am appalled at the power they wield in US politics beyond all reason. I am not 
a member and not a fan of the NRA for lots of reasons. But I also grew up 
within hunting culture which means gun culture. I knew how to  check if a gun 
was loaded to sure no one got hurt by elementary school. ( I believe all kids 
should learn this life saving skill.)

But the smart gun is no solution to anything except maybe the company who gets 
to cash in on the hype. The thing about guns in America is that the ship 
already sailed. We have guns out the wazoo and there will be no retrofitting 
all of them with anything. If we never made or imported another gun we would 
still have a gun problem. I put that in quotes because since I saw Bowling 
for Columbine by Michael Moore and found out how many guns the relatively 
pacifist Canadians have. I now see the issue as a people problem.

So smart gun tech will not solve our problem with people shooting each other, 
and if you have kids and own a gun, and the gun is not in a safe, (a real one 
that costs enough to actually work) and your kids shoots someone, you need to 
go to jail dad or mom.

I live in a high crime area. I do not have a carry permit but I own a gun. I 
like the idea that if someone breaks in I have a chance to defend my life. I 
also know that this is the most long shot (funny choice of words) threat to my 
life as I careen around the beltway of DC where people die every day. But even 
so the fact is that where I live this does happen and as a guy who walks in and 
out of his door every day with thousands of dollars of musical gear many times 
a week, I do actually have a bit of a target on my door. And if I should ever 
have to use deadly force to defend myself against people desperate enough to 
come into my crib with evil intent, I am not trusting the same guys who make it 
impossible for me to put anyone on hold on my phone, or who turn my computer 
into a brick every time I play a freak'n Youtube video to make sure my gun 
works without a quick reboot to reset whatever twitchy tech bullshit is 
keeping me from saying please shop
 elsewhere at 140 decibels.

America does seem to have a shooting each other problem.It may not have any 
simple solution. But I don't believe that pursuing make believe solutions to 
make ourselves feel better that we are doing SOMETHING is the answer.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :


Recently I've seen more and more news articles about smart guns, which can be 
personalized such that they can only be fired by their owners or someone 
pre-authorized by them. Ah, I said to myself, this may help in the attempts 
to wake America up to the need for some kind of effective gun control.

Imagine my shock at my own naivete when I read this excellent article, and 
learned how the gun industry and the NRA are already in cahoots -- long before 
an effective smart gun ever appears on the market -- to co-opt the technology 
to eliminate current gun laws and turn America into the carry your gun 
anytime, and anywhere nation they fantasize about in their wet dreams. 


If this is how America reacts to a rare sane idea in the gun control battle, I 
almost hope the members of the NRA succeed in their quest, and turn the country 
into the Everyone-Armed-At-All-Times-Free-For-All Disneyland they hope for. 
Then possibly they'd all shoot each other and the world would finally be a 
saner place. 


Pando at the NRA: The
Zuckerberg of guns could save lives and make millions, but he'll have to 
fight the NRA first

 
   Pando at the NRA: The Zuckerberg of guns could...
I flew in to 

[FairfieldLife] Our sun has a sister

2014-05-09 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/sun-sister-215510093.html 
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/sun-sister-215510093.html

 

 Not sure what this article was doing in Yahoo Finance, but I thought it was 
interesting. Apparently our sun was part of a huge cloud of gas and dust, and 
scientists have been tracking down stars with the same chemical composition, as 
our sun. fascinating.


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than I thought

2014-05-09 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
And I do feel fortunate to live in a country that avoided the gun insanity that 
America fell prey to. 
 

 Yes, we, in America, feel fortunate about your decision, too.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 While I agree with you that the problem is probably unresolvable at this point 
because 1) there are too many guns already to ever be controlled, 2) there 
would be a huge black market of them if they ever *were* truly controlled,  and 
3) Americans really *do* have a people problem that is larger than its gun 
problem, I was nonetheless horrified that the gun manufacturers and the NRA 
could be so crazy as to try to use the smart gun thing to make guns MORE 
available. And to argue that owning a smart gun should allow the person who 
owns it to get on a plane with it. That speaks to me of a country beyond 
repair, and possibly beyond the hope of rehabilitation. 

 

 I completely agree with you that if a child (or anyone) dies as the result of 
a gun kept in the home, at the hands of one of their children, both parents 
should be tried for murder and spend the rest of their lives in prison. And I 
do feel fortunate to live in a country that avoided the gun insanity that 
America fell prey to. 

 From: curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, May 9, 2014 5:00 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than I 
thought
 
 
   Couple of caveats. I think the NRA has done a lot of harm to the county and 
I am appalled at the power they wield in US politics beyond all reason. I am 
not a member and not a fan of the NRA for lots of reasons. But I also grew up 
within hunting culture which means gun culture. I knew how to  check if a gun 
was loaded to sure no one got hurt by elementary school. ( I believe all kids 
should learn this life saving skill.)

But the smart gun is no solution to anything except maybe the company who gets 
to cash in on the hype. The thing about guns in America is that the ship 
already sailed. We have guns out the wazoo and there will be no retrofitting 
all of them with anything. If we never made or imported another gun we would 
still have a gun problem. I put that in quotes because since I saw Bowling 
for Columbine by Michael Moore and found out how many guns the relatively 
pacifist Canadians have. I now see the issue as a people problem.

So smart gun tech will not solve our problem with people shooting each other, 
and if you have kids and own a gun, and the gun is not in a safe, (a real one 
that costs enough to actually work) and your kids shoots someone, you need to 
go to jail dad or mom.

I live in a high crime area. I do not have a carry permit but I own a gun. I 
like the idea that if someone breaks in I have a chance to defend my life. I 
also know that this is the most long shot (funny choice of words) threat to my 
life as I careen around the beltway of DC where people die every day. But even 
so the fact is that where I live this does happen and as a guy who walks in and 
out of his door every day with thousands of dollars of musical gear many times 
a week, I do actually have a bit of a target on my door. And if I should ever 
have to use deadly force to defend myself against people desperate enough to 
come into my crib with evil intent, I am not trusting the same guys who make it 
impossible for me to put anyone on hold on my phone, or who turn my computer 
into a brick every time I play a freak'n Youtube video to make sure my gun 
works without a quick reboot to reset whatever twitchy tech bullshit is 
keeping me from saying please shop elsewhere at 140 decibels.

America does seem to have a shooting each other problem.It may not have any 
simple solution. But I don't believe that pursuing make believe solutions to 
make ourselves feel better that we are doing SOMETHING is the answer.

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 Recently I've seen more and more news articles about smart guns, which can 
be personalized such that they can only be fired by their owners or someone 
pre-authorized by them. Ah, I said to myself, this may help in the attempts 
to wake America up to the need for some kind of effective gun control.
 

 Imagine my shock at my own naivete when I read this excellent article, and 
learned how the gun industry and the NRA are already in cahoots -- long before 
an effective smart gun ever appears on the market -- to co-opt the technology 
to eliminate current gun laws and turn America into the carry your gun 
anytime, and anywhere nation they fantasize about in their wet dreams. 

 

 If this is how America reacts to a rare sane idea in the gun control battle, I 
almost hope the members of the NRA succeed in their quest, and turn the country 
into the Everyone-Armed-At-All-Times-Free-For-All Disneyland they hope for. 
Then possibly they'd all shoot each other and the world would finally 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than I thought

2014-05-09 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Heaven forfend that Barry should read the article at the link I posted, which 
reports on a recent Gallup survey showing that large majorities of Americans 
are in favor of various approaches to gun control.
 

 What Americans have is a political problem in which minorities and special 
interest groups like the NRA are able to block the majority's strong preference 
for gun control. That's ultimately also a people problem in that we let 
things get to this infuriating state of affairs. But it's not a people 
problem in terms of everyone wanting guns to be uncontrolled, as Barry seems 
to believe.
 

 

 

 

 Americans really *do* have a people problem that is larger than its gun 
problem





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Prez is in the area

2014-05-09 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
“What numbskull in the White House arranged this?” former Labor 
Secretary Robert Reich, who served in the Bill Clinton administration, 
said in a posting on Facebook on Thursday.


Obama, at Wal-Mart, touts efficiency; angers labor:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/federal_government/obama-popular-in-tech-world-policies-less-so/2014/05/08/555d9830-d713-11e3-8f7d-7786660fff7c_story.html


On 05/08/2014 08:07 PM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com wrote:


Trickle down economics:


During this visit, rich folks in Palo Alto and Woodside eat dinner 
with the Prez, sharing their concerns, aka influence, and give Obama 
(a rich guy), hundreds of millions, and he turns around, and spends 
maybe three hundred of that, at Walmart, and takes a few polaroids. 
That's pretty cavalier of the Prez. He should do his shopping on 
University Ave. and Stanford Shopping Center, where they have the 
stuff he really wants, as a rich guy. I am pretty sure the dude 
doesn't buy his *ties*, or shoes, at Walmart.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :

And guess where he's going tomorrow! Walmart! (The one in Mountain
View). weird

Must be shopping for Mother's Day.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than I thought

2014-05-09 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
I don't own a gun but for the reasons you state I am very much for 
keeping the right of people to own them.  However I can't see much sense 
in people owning automatic weapons.  And I think parading around open 
carry sort of sets things up for gun confiscation.  Not big on seeing 
the open carry nuts at Starbucks.


I also think this country long ago would  have been turned into a 
fascist state by the rich if they knew their asses were going to get 
shot because people have guns.  They are a good deterrent against that 
crowd too.


On 05/09/2014 08:00 AM, curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


Couple of caveats. I think the NRA has done a lot of harm to the 
county and I am appalled at the power they wield in US politics beyond 
all reason. I am not a member and not a fan of the NRA for lots of 
reasons. But I also grew up within hunting culture which means gun 
culture. I knew how to  check if a gun was loaded to sure no one got 
hurt by elementary school. ( I believe all kids should learn this life 
saving skill.)


But the smart gun is no solution to anything except maybe the company 
who gets to cash in on the hype. The thing about guns in America is 
that the ship already sailed. We have guns out the wazoo and there 
will be no retrofitting all of them with anything. If we never made or 
imported another gun we would still have a gun problem. I put that 
in quotes because since I saw Bowling for Columbine by Michael Moore 
and found out how many guns the relatively pacifist Canadians have. I 
now see the issue as a people problem.


So smart gun tech will not solve our problem with people shooting each 
other, and if you have kids and own a gun, and the gun is not in a 
safe, (a real one that costs enough to actually work) and your kids 
shoots someone, you need to go to jail dad or mom.


I live in a high crime area. I do not have a carry permit but I own a 
gun. I like the idea that if someone breaks in I have a chance to 
defend my life. I also know that this is the most long shot (funny 
choice of words) threat to my life as I careen around the beltway of 
DC where people die every day. But even so the fact is that where I 
live this does happen and as a guy who walks in and out of his door 
every day with thousands of dollars of musical gear many times a week, 
I do actually have a bit of a target on my door. And if I should ever 
have to use deadly force to defend myself against people desperate 
enough to come into my crib with evil intent, I am not trusting the 
same guys who make it impossible for me to put anyone on hold on my 
phone, or who turn my computer into a brick every time I play a 
freak'n Youtube video to make sure my gun works without a quick 
reboot to reset whatever twitchy tech bullshit is keeping me from 
saying please shop elsewhere at 140 decibels.


America does seem to have a shooting each other problem.It may not 
have any simple solution. But I don't believe that pursuing make 
believe solutions to make ourselves feel better that we are doing 
SOMETHING is the answer.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

Recently I've seen more and more news articles about smart guns, 
which can be personalized such that they can only be fired by their 
owners or someone pre-authorized by them. Ah, I said to myself, 
this may help in the attempts to wake America up to the need for some 
kind of effective gun control.


Imagine my shock at my own naivete when I read this excellent article, 
and learned how the gun industry and the NRA are already in cahoots -- 
long before an effective smart gun ever appears on the market -- to 
co-opt the technology to eliminate current gun laws and turn America 
into the carry your gun anytime, and anywhere nation they fantasize 
about in their wet dreams.


If this is how America reacts to a rare sane idea in the gun control 
battle, I almost hope the members of the NRA succeed in their quest, 
and turn the country into the Everyone-Armed-At-All-Times-Free-For-All 
Disneyland they hope for. Then possibly they'd all shoot each other 
and the world would finally be a saner place.


Pando at the NRA: The Zuckerberg of guns could save lives and make 
millions, but he'll have to fight the NRA first 
http://pando.com/2014/05/07/the-zuckerberg-of-guns-could-save-lives-and-make-millions-for-the-industry-but-hell-have-to-fight-the-nra-first/





image 
http://pando.com/2014/05/07/the-zuckerberg-of-guns-could-save-lives-and-make-millions-for-the-industry-but-hell-have-to-fight-the-nra-first/



Pando at the NRA: The Zuckerberg of guns could... 
http://pando.com/2014/05/07/the-zuckerberg-of-guns-could-save-lives-and-make-millions-for-the-industry-but-hell-have-to-fight-the-nra-first/ 

I flew in to Indianapolis on Friday morning, sleep deprived and 
dispirited after spending a red-eye flight stuck next to a guy with 
foul breath who passed ou...


View on pando.com 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than I thought

2014-05-09 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :

 I don't own a gun but for the reasons you state I am very much for keeping the 
right of people to own them.  However I can't see much sense in people owning 
automatic weapons.  And I think parading around open carry sort of sets 
things up for gun confiscation.  Not big on seeing the open carry nuts at 
Starbucks. 

C: I know what you mean. Personally I don't really care about which guns people 
own. I'm not sure what you mean by automatic. Full auto IS illegal, semi auto 
is legal. You can squeeze that trigger pretty fast so the difference is minor 
especially since most people are shitty aims with full auto weapons. I think 
the assault rifle debate is a bogus distinction. They look scarier but all guns 
do the same job. Distinguishing between guns is in the make us feel better 
while doing nothing bin for me.
 
 B: I also think this country long ago would  have been turned into a fascist 
state by the rich if they knew their asses were going to get shot because 
people have guns.  They are a good deterrent against that crowd too.

C: I hear this argument a lot but it never rings true for me. Have you seen the 
guns the government has?  The rich owns them too!  But if you want to rail 
against the rigged system the rich have created in our government I am all in.






 
 On 05/09/2014 08:00 AM, curtisdeltablues@... mailto:curtisdeltablues@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   Couple of caveats. I think the NRA has done a lot of harm to the county and 
I am appalled at the power they wield in US politics beyond all reason. I am 
not a member and not a fan of the NRA for lots of reasons. But I also grew up 
within hunting culture which means gun culture. I knew how to  check if a gun 
was loaded to sure no one got hurt by elementary school. ( I believe all kids 
should learn this life saving skill.)
 
 But the smart gun is no solution to anything except maybe the company who gets 
to cash in on the hype. The thing about guns in America is that the ship 
already sailed. We have guns out the wazoo and there will be no retrofitting 
all of them with anything. If we never made or imported another gun we would 
still have a gun problem. I put that in quotes because since I saw Bowling 
for Columbine by Michael Moore and found out how many guns the relatively 
pacifist Canadians have. I now see the issue as a people problem.
 
 So smart gun tech will not solve our problem with people shooting each other, 
and if you have kids and own a gun, and the gun is not in a safe, (a real one 
that costs enough to actually work) and your kids shoots someone, you need to 
go to jail dad or mom.
 
 I live in a high crime area. I do not have a carry permit but I own a gun. I 
like the idea that if someone breaks in I have a chance to defend my life. I 
also know that this is the most long shot (funny choice of words) threat to my 
life as I careen around the beltway of DC where people die every day. But even 
so the fact is that where I live this does happen and as a guy who walks in and 
out of his door every day with thousands of dollars of musical gear many times 
a week, I do actually have a bit of a target on my door. And if I should ever 
have to use deadly force to defend myself against people desperate enough to 
come into my crib with evil intent, I am not trusting the same guys who make it 
impossible for me to put anyone on hold on my phone, or who turn my computer 
into a brick every time I play a freak'n Youtube video to make sure my gun 
works without a quick reboot to reset whatever twitchy tech bullshit is 
keeping me from saying please shop elsewhere at 140 decibels.
 
 America does seem to have a shooting each other problem.It may not have any 
simple solution. But I don't believe that pursuing make believe solutions to 
make ourselves feel better that we are doing SOMETHING is the answer.

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote :
 
 Recently I've seen more and more news articles about smart guns, which can 
be personalized such that they can only be fired by their owners or someone 
pre-authorized by them. Ah, I said to myself, this may help in the attempts 
to wake America up to the need for some kind of effective gun control.
 
 
 Imagine my shock at my own naivete when I read this excellent article, and 
learned how the gun industry and the NRA are already in cahoots -- long before 
an effective smart gun ever appears on the market -- to co-opt the technology 
to eliminate current gun laws and turn America into the carry your gun 
anytime, and anywhere nation they fantasize about in their wet dreams. 
 
 
 
 If this is how America reacts to a rare sane idea in the gun control battle, I 
almost hope the members of the NRA succeed in their quest, and turn the country 
into the Everyone-Armed-At-All-Times-Free-For-All Disneyland they hope for. 
Then possibly they'd 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Note to Rick Conderning his interview with Sam Harris

2014-05-09 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Rick, I just finished the Harry Aalto batgap.com interview. That was good 
criticism based on experience too. He has an amazing base voice but his 
perspective by experience was piercing. Janet Sussman who lived in Fairfield 
for years held weekly living living room satsangs too with folks where her 
teaching was very much like the way Harri Aalto languages it by virtue of 
evolving and long experience. Fun to hear it so clearly talked about and 
advocated for in the same way so directly by two different people in two very 
different packages. Same thing. In the Unified Field Your friend always, -Buck 
 
 fleetwood_macncheese Writes:
 Yeah, I agree with the bit about spiritual experiences being something that a 
person gets used to, no matter how flashy they may be, initially. Humans are 
great at assimilating any kind of experience. I find too, that whenever I tried 
to hold on to any spiritual experience, it went away. Once unbounded awareness 
is established (while it continues to expand), there is no obstacle to any kind 
of flashy experience; hang out with angels? why not? visit the inside of the 
body? OK. and after awhile, its like if a person works at Disneyland and can 
ride the rides, all they want, any time they want. 
 There are two sides to life, anyway - the spiritual momentum, and character 
development, aka 'doing the work'. Much more concerned, and interested, in the 
latter, these days. So, it doesn't matter to me what a person's beliefs are, as 
much as what kind of a person they are. Beliefs don't count for much. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 
 





Thanks for your comments. One of the things that amuses me in this discussion 
is that two of the participants so far who are on record as having no need to 
believe in a God are also on record as having had enlightenment experiences. 
Whereas possibly some of those who think of themselves as believers in God have 
not. 
 

 Such an assumption that really serves no useful purpose other than, well, you 
know..

Clearly belief in God has nothing to do with awakening or being able to have 
clear, according-to-Maharishi's-definitions periods of enlightenment. 
 

 It might be helpful to know who you are arguing with on this point.  

My larger point is that I think that having a belief in God has nothing to do 
with *anything* other than having Just Another Belief. Such a belief is not 
necessary to follow a spiritual path, and not having such a belief is no 
hindrance to one.   
 

 You do realize that you make this point on a nearly daily basis as though 
there is someone on the other side of this argument.
 

 I mean, I get the impression that people who have so called spiritual 
experiences may just make a note of them, and then move on.  Now, I suppose 
there are many who benchmark these experiences, but really, it's not anything I 
much see here.  So, maybe your comments are directed to a different audience.
 

 Even Jim, who is not bashful about declaring his enlightenment uses his own 
descriptions.  I mean maybe they do end up corresponding somewhat to the 
experiences you read about in texts, and that MMY has outlined, but growth of 
spiritual experiences, if they are genuine, come off as being quite fresh, and 
usually quite confusing, at least at first.

















[FairfieldLife] For the anti-abortionists here -- choke on this.

2014-05-09 Thread Duveyoung
https://www.tytnetwork.com/2014/05/09/bible-pro-life/ 
https://www.tytnetwork.com/2014/05/09/bible-pro-life/

 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Sanskrit Reverberation and EEG, and MUM

2014-05-09 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Om in science process;  Observation, hypothesis, test. The primary Spirit of 
Maharishi as scientist using modern and cutting edge science over spirituality 
is very alive, able and well at Maharishi University of Management, studying 
and testing spirituality. It was extremely interesting and relevant to see the 
data pairs being tested and the results that are so evident even to the naked 
eye. The haters here would be alternately depressed and illumined if they 
actually considered the data and implications. -Buck  
 
 The slide pictures from India and the pundits chanting there were good 
verification too. It is certainly a big research project in science and 
spirituality going on there. Fred with his EEG equipment stayed there and went 
in setting up test trials of various data pairs at one of the campus there with 
1500 resident pundits chanting. It is really interesting science that even 
sophists, atheists, and agnostics here with open minds could be excited by. 
-Buck 
 Dateline Fairfield, Iowa, Meditating Community:  
 Fabulous lecture tonite. Yes there is quite a significant difference between 
non-meditators, meditators, and advanced Patanjali meditators in brain EEG 
global coherence; and then listening to Sanskrit chanted slowly as Maharishi 
prescribed, the recitation reverberations in the subtle system evidently 
improving each class of coherence seemingly better than even listening to just 
anything else [even listening to Baroque music]. 
  Remarkable science of hypothesis paired testing to figure this all out.  
Fascinating really.  Om, how our poor TM and Maharishi haters here shall eat 
crow**. -Buck at the Consciousness-based University 
 **Eating crow is an American colloquial idiom 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiom,[1] 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eating_crow#cite_note-oed3a-1 meaning humiliation 
by admitting wrongness or having been proved wrong after taking a strong 
position.[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eating_crow#cite_note-www-2 Crow 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crow is presumably foul-tasting in the same way 
that being proved wrong might be emotionally hard to swallow. -Wikip
 

 ==
 

 Really important meeting tonite.
 

 

 EEG PATTERNS WHEN LISTENING TO VEDIC RECITATION
DALBY HALL
MAY 8th, 2014

 Tonite 8pm
 

 Join Dr. Fred Travis in exploring what happens to the brain when listening to 
Vedic recitation compared to the practice of transcending meditation, and find 
out about the ongoing research program that is being developed to explore these 
effects.

 

 Reverberation in Spiritual Practice:   
 

 ..within each individual through the practice of Transcendental Meditation 
and the Vedic sound reverberations, the Vedic texts recited. You can enliven 
the whole body, the whole physiology.  
 

 ..In modern science, in order to materialize a theory, a scientist is needed. 
Listen to this carefully. In modern science, for a theory to be materialized, a 
scientist needs to put the theory to practice. In the Vedic world, in Vedic 
knowledge, in Vedic science, the scientist himself is the embodiment of the 
theory, is the embodiment of the principles, because it is self-referral in its 
own quality.
 From within itself it is Total Knowledge, it is total power, it is total 
activity. This is Vedic speech, Vedic reverberations, Vedic sound. Vedic sounds 
themselves operate. And this has given a completely new approach to perfect 
health. Perfect health means perfection in every field for everyone on earth.
  -Maharishi, inaugural address on January 12, 2000.
 

 

 The Fairfield Meditating Community:
 

 
 “We are a group of people who have come together and created a community for a 
transcendentally important common purpose, which of course is to practice the 
Transcendental Meditation program and the TM-Sidhi program together as a group, 
for the sake of bringing coherence to national and world consciousness based on 
balancing labor and leisure to meditate while working together for the benefit 
of the community. Our Super-Radiance meditating community includes families of 
all the TM-Meditators and TM-Sidhas in the Fairfield, Vedic City and Jefferson 
County area.” 
 .

 












[FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than I thought

2014-05-09 Thread nablusoss1008

 When did a gun kill anyone ? The problem is stress, not the amount of guns. 
Only huge purification of collective consciousness will take care of it. It's a 
huge task but it will happen, gradually.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :

 I agree with the gun saturation making this a big problem, regardless if all 
gun sales were stopped today. My dad had quite a collection - hundreds - and 
one thing I can say, is that guns last. Not like a modern appliance, where 
circuits or electronics can stop working, or a plastic part eventually breaks. 
Guns are built with a few working parts, all metal, and will continue to 
accurately function for a hundred years, or more. I still have a .32 colt 
semi-automatic, and a couple of .38 revolvers, colt and sw - not so much for 
protection, as for target shooting.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote :

 Couple of caveats. I think the NRA has done a lot of harm to the county and I 
am appalled at the power they wield in US politics beyond all reason. I am not 
a member and not a fan of the NRA for lots of reasons. But I also grew up 
within hunting culture which means gun culture. I knew how to  check if a gun 
was loaded to sure no one got hurt by elementary school. ( I believe all kids 
should learn this life saving skill.)

But the smart gun is no solution to anything except maybe the company who gets 
to cash in on the hype. The thing about guns in America is that the ship 
already sailed. We have guns out the wazoo and there will be no retrofitting 
all of them with anything. If we never made or imported another gun we would 
still have a gun problem. I put that in quotes because since I saw Bowling 
for Columbine by Michael Moore and found out how many guns the relatively 
pacifist Canadians have. I now see the issue as a people problem.

So smart gun tech will not solve our problem with people shooting each other, 
and if you have kids and own a gun, and the gun is not in a safe, (a real one 
that costs enough to actually work) and your kids shoots someone, you need to 
go to jail dad or mom.

I live in a high crime area. I do not have a carry permit but I own a gun. I 
like the idea that if someone breaks in I have a chance to defend my life. I 
also know that this is the most long shot (funny choice of words) threat to my 
life as I careen around the beltway of DC where people die every day. But even 
so the fact is that where I live this does happen and as a guy who walks in and 
out of his door every day with thousands of dollars of musical gear many times 
a week, I do actually have a bit of a target on my door. And if I should ever 
have to use deadly force to defend myself against people desperate enough to 
come into my crib with evil intent, I am not trusting the same guys who make it 
impossible for me to put anyone on hold on my phone, or who turn my computer 
into a brick every time I play a freak'n Youtube video to make sure my gun 
works without a quick reboot to reset whatever twitchy tech bullshit is 
keeping me from saying please shop elsewhere at 140 decibels.

America does seem to have a shooting each other problem.It may not have any 
simple solution. But I don't believe that pursuing make believe solutions to 
make ourselves feel better that we are doing SOMETHING is the answer.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 Recently I've seen more and more news articles about smart guns, which can 
be personalized such that they can only be fired by their owners or someone 
pre-authorized by them. Ah, I said to myself, this may help in the attempts 
to wake America up to the need for some kind of effective gun control.
 

 Imagine my shock at my own naivete when I read this excellent article, and 
learned how the gun industry and the NRA are already in cahoots -- long before 
an effective smart gun ever appears on the market -- to co-opt the technology 
to eliminate current gun laws and turn America into the carry your gun 
anytime, and anywhere nation they fantasize about in their wet dreams. 

 

 If this is how America reacts to a rare sane idea in the gun control battle, I 
almost hope the members of the NRA succeed in their quest, and turn the country 
into the Everyone-Armed-At-All-Times-Free-For-All Disneyland they hope for. 
Then possibly they'd all shoot each other and the world would finally be a 
saner place. 

 

 Pando at the NRA: The Zuckerberg of guns could save lives and make millions, 
but he'll have to fight the NRA first
 

 
 
 
http://pando.com/2014/05/07/the-zuckerberg-of-guns-could-save-lives-and-make-millions-for-the-industry-but-hell-have-to-fight-the-nra-first/
 
 Pando at the NRA: The Zuckerberg of guns could... 
http://pando.com/2014/05/07/the-zuckerberg-of-guns-could-save-lives-and-make-millions-for-the-industry-but-hell-have-to-fight-the-nra-first/
 I flew in to Indianapolis on Friday morning, sleep deprived and dispirited 

[FairfieldLife] Re: the re-invigoration of Buddhism is started!

2014-05-09 Thread nablusoss1008

 He is  full of frustration, not understanding it is his own he project it on 
others randomly wherever he can. So much for the transformative power of 
Buddhist meditation. BTW, the Maharishi quote obviously was: Give Thailand 
back to Buddha.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :

 My personal view of turq, is that if this were a forum discussing 
tiddly-winks, he'd be in the thick of it. The subject doesn't matter - it is 
his opposition to it, and his ability to criticize those supportive of it, that 
is important to him. Some people get off on the weirdest stuff, and he is no 
exception.  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 
 True. Some fellows met Maharishi on his plane in Bangkok before they went out 
to teach. Maharishi told them: Give Buddha back to Thailand. Seems this is 
what is happening since more and more groups of Buddhist monks and schools are 
starting real meditation, gone are the days of endless straining.
 Much to the consternation of the hobby Buddhist's in this group of course. 
Take the Turq; much of his fruitless attacks on TM here is probably fuelled by 
the success of TM in South-East Asia. The other guy is generally challenged and 
has probably not even noticed :-)

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :


 Buddhism will become effective again, as all the worlds religions will. Jai 
Jai Jai Maharishi!

 Asoka Mission - Buddhist School For Girls In Thailand 
http://www.asokamission.com/app/index.php?r=front/default/pagealias=buddhist-school-for-girls-in-thailand#

 
 
 
http://www.asokamission.com/app/index.php?r=front/default/pagealias=buddhist-school-for-girls-in-thailand#
 
 Asoka Mission - Buddhist School For Girls In Thailand 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Prez is in the area

2014-05-09 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
After the single-payer sleight-of-hand he pulled with healthcare, Zerobama has 
pretty much become a republican in sheep's clothing. The *finest* sheep's 
clothing, at that.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :

 “What numbskull in the White House arranged this?” former Labor Secretary 
Robert Reich, who served in the Bill Clinton administration, said in a posting 
on Facebook on Thursday.
 
 Obama, at Wal-Mart, touts efficiency; angers labor:
 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/federal_government/obama-popular-in-tech-world-policies-less-so/2014/05/08/555d9830-d713-11e3-8f7d-7786660fff7c_story.html
 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/federal_government/obama-popular-in-tech-world-policies-less-so/2014/05/08/555d9830-d713-11e3-8f7d-7786660fff7c_story.html
 
 
 On 05/08/2014 08:07 PM, fleetwood_macncheese@... 
mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote:
 
   Trickle down economics:
 
 During this visit, rich folks in Palo Alto and Woodside eat dinner with the 
Prez, sharing their concerns, aka influence, and give Obama (a rich guy), 
hundreds of millions, and he turns around, and spends maybe three hundred of 
that, at Walmart, and takes a few polaroids. That's pretty cavalier of the 
Prez. He should do his shopping on University Ave. and Stanford Shopping 
Center, where they have the stuff he really wants, as a rich guy. I am pretty 
sure the dude doesn't buy his *ties*, or shoes, at Walmart.
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote :
 
 And guess where he's going tomorrow! Walmart! (The one in Mountain 
 View). weird
 
 Must be shopping for Mother's Day.




 




[FairfieldLife] Re: the re-invigoration of Buddhism is started!

2014-05-09 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I saw a funny greeting card today, showing two people on the cover, one saying 
to the other, See those two? That's what we'll look like in twenty years! 
Scary. The other one replies, Are you kidding me? We are looking in a mirror!
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 
 He is  full of frustration, not understanding it is his own he project it on 
others randomly wherever he can. So much for the transformative power of 
Buddhist meditation. BTW, the Maharishi quote obviously was: Give Thailand 
back to Buddha.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :

 My personal view of turq, is that if this were a forum discussing 
tiddly-winks, he'd be in the thick of it. The subject doesn't matter - it is 
his opposition to it, and his ability to criticize those supportive of it, that 
is important to him. Some people get off on the weirdest stuff, and he is no 
exception.  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 
 True. Some fellows met Maharishi on his plane in Bangkok before they went out 
to teach. Maharishi told them: Give Buddha back to Thailand. Seems this is 
what is happening since more and more groups of Buddhist monks and schools are 
starting real meditation, gone are the days of endless straining.
 Much to the consternation of the hobby Buddhist's in this group of course. 
Take the Turq; much of his fruitless attacks on TM here is probably fuelled by 
the success of TM in South-East Asia. The other guy is generally challenged and 
has probably not even noticed :-)

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :


 Buddhism will become effective again, as all the worlds religions will. Jai 
Jai Jai Maharishi!

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[FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than I thought

2014-05-09 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Agreed. 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 
 When did a gun kill anyone ? The problem is stress, not the amount of guns. 
Only huge purification of collective consciousness will take care of it. It's a 
huge task but it will happen, gradually.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :

 I agree with the gun saturation making this a big problem, regardless if all 
gun sales were stopped today. My dad had quite a collection - hundreds - and 
one thing I can say, is that guns last. Not like a modern appliance, where 
circuits or electronics can stop working, or a plastic part eventually breaks. 
Guns are built with a few working parts, all metal, and will continue to 
accurately function for a hundred years, or more. I still have a .32 colt 
semi-automatic, and a couple of .38 revolvers, colt and sw - not so much for 
protection, as for target shooting.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote :

 Couple of caveats. I think the NRA has done a lot of harm to the county and I 
am appalled at the power they wield in US politics beyond all reason. I am not 
a member and not a fan of the NRA for lots of reasons. But I also grew up 
within hunting culture which means gun culture. I knew how to  check if a gun 
was loaded to sure no one got hurt by elementary school. ( I believe all kids 
should learn this life saving skill.)

But the smart gun is no solution to anything except maybe the company who gets 
to cash in on the hype. The thing about guns in America is that the ship 
already sailed. We have guns out the wazoo and there will be no retrofitting 
all of them with anything. If we never made or imported another gun we would 
still have a gun problem. I put that in quotes because since I saw Bowling 
for Columbine by Michael Moore and found out how many guns the relatively 
pacifist Canadians have. I now see the issue as a people problem.

So smart gun tech will not solve our problem with people shooting each other, 
and if you have kids and own a gun, and the gun is not in a safe, (a real one 
that costs enough to actually work) and your kids shoots someone, you need to 
go to jail dad or mom.

I live in a high crime area. I do not have a carry permit but I own a gun. I 
like the idea that if someone breaks in I have a chance to defend my life. I 
also know that this is the most long shot (funny choice of words) threat to my 
life as I careen around the beltway of DC where people die every day. But even 
so the fact is that where I live this does happen and as a guy who walks in and 
out of his door every day with thousands of dollars of musical gear many times 
a week, I do actually have a bit of a target on my door. And if I should ever 
have to use deadly force to defend myself against people desperate enough to 
come into my crib with evil intent, I am not trusting the same guys who make it 
impossible for me to put anyone on hold on my phone, or who turn my computer 
into a brick every time I play a freak'n Youtube video to make sure my gun 
works without a quick reboot to reset whatever twitchy tech bullshit is 
keeping me from saying please shop elsewhere at 140 decibels.

America does seem to have a shooting each other problem.It may not have any 
simple solution. But I don't believe that pursuing make believe solutions to 
make ourselves feel better that we are doing SOMETHING is the answer.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 Recently I've seen more and more news articles about smart guns, which can 
be personalized such that they can only be fired by their owners or someone 
pre-authorized by them. Ah, I said to myself, this may help in the attempts 
to wake America up to the need for some kind of effective gun control.
 

 Imagine my shock at my own naivete when I read this excellent article, and 
learned how the gun industry and the NRA are already in cahoots -- long before 
an effective smart gun ever appears on the market -- to co-opt the technology 
to eliminate current gun laws and turn America into the carry your gun 
anytime, and anywhere nation they fantasize about in their wet dreams. 

 

 If this is how America reacts to a rare sane idea in the gun control battle, I 
almost hope the members of the NRA succeed in their quest, and turn the country 
into the Everyone-Armed-At-All-Times-Free-For-All Disneyland they hope for. 
Then possibly they'd all shoot each other and the world would finally be a 
saner place. 

 

 Pando at the NRA: The Zuckerberg of guns could save lives and make millions, 
but he'll have to fight the NRA first
 

 
 
 
http://pando.com/2014/05/07/the-zuckerberg-of-guns-could-save-lives-and-make-millions-for-the-industry-but-hell-have-to-fight-the-nra-first/
 
 Pando at the NRA: The Zuckerberg of guns could... 

[FairfieldLife] lstening Veda resources

2014-05-09 Thread srijau
chants done by Maharishi pundits in the style he taught

http://vedic-arts.com/Detail.jsp?category_id=1name=pricemin=pricemax=author=item_id=11;
 
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 listening Vedas online or buy mp3s
 

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[FairfieldLife] David Lynch Foundation's first Play Reading Benefit

2014-05-09 Thread nablusoss1008
Come join us at the David Lynch Foundation's first Play Reading Benefit.  The 
reading series is a collaboration with Working Artists Theatre Project. Jessica 
Dermody (Artistic Director of WAT Project) and Damon Arrington (The Public and 
Labyrinth Theatre) will direct a cast from the Broadway, film and television 
industries in James McLure's 1959 PINK THUNDERBIRD.  The classic companion 
comedies highlight the resilience of the human spirit and explore themes of 
love, war and the harsh realities of life in small town America.  This event 
will raise money to help teach War Veterans Transcendental Meditation through 
the Operation Warrior Wellness Project.
 

 http://dlfreadforwarriors.brownpapertickets.com/ 
http://dlfreadforwarriors.brownpapertickets.com/ 


Re: [FairfieldLife] For the anti-abortionists here -- choke on this.

2014-05-09 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
The guy has a point. And he also has a point that God -- if The Bible can be 
seen as an accurate record of His works -- has killed off far more of His 
creations (human beings) than the human beings ever did. Based on the cast of 
The Bible, that is. God just *rocks* at genocide, even according to His holy 
Word.  :-) 




 From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, May 9, 2014 6:20 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] For the anti-abortionists here -- choke on this.
 


  
Is The Bible Pro-Life?
 
   Is The Bible Pro-Life?
Cenk Uygur (http://www.twitter.com/cenkuygur) host of The Young Turks reads 
directly from The Bible in order to answer the question of whether or not G...  
View on www.tytnetwork.com Preview by Yahoo  

Re: [FairfieldLife] For the anti-abortionists here -- choke on this.

2014-05-09 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Just choking on my laughter here. Cenk Uygur is who? Definitely not a biblical 
scholar. Can't even quote a biblical passage accurately, much less know what 
it's saying. So, if you want to learn about the will of God, learn it from a 
leftist political activist. Kind of like saying, if you want to learn about 
yoga, learn it from a Baptist minister, LOL!.
On Friday, May 9, 2014 9:21 AM, Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
  
  
https://www.tytnetwork.com/2014/05/09/bible-pro-life/

  
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than I thought

2014-05-09 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Doesn't take much technology to build a completely new one, from scratch, 
either! 
On Friday, May 9, 2014 8:09 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
  
  
I agree with the gun saturation making this a big problem, regardless if all 
gun sales were stopped today. My dad had quite a collection - hundreds - and 
one thing I can say, is that guns last. Not like a modern appliance, where 
circuits or electronics can stop working, or a plastic part eventually breaks. 
Guns are built with a few working parts, all metal, and will continue to 
accurately function for a hundred years, or more. I still have a .32 colt 
semi-automatic, and a couple of .38 revolvers, colt and sw - not so much for 
protection, as for target shooting.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote :


Couple of caveats. I think the NRA has done a lot of harm to the county and I 
am appalled at the power they wield in US politics beyond all reason. I am not 
a member and not a fan of the NRA for lots of reasons. But I also grew up 
within hunting culture which means gun culture. I knew how to  check if a gun 
was loaded to sure no one got hurt by elementary school. ( I believe all kids 
should learn this life saving skill.)

But the smart gun is no solution to anything except maybe the company who gets 
to cash in on the hype. The thing about guns in America is that the ship 
already sailed. We have guns out the wazoo and there will be no retrofitting 
all of them with anything. If we never made or imported another gun we would 
still have a gun problem. I put that in quotes because since I saw Bowling 
for Columbine by Michael Moore and found out how many guns the relatively 
pacifist Canadians have. I now see the issue as a people problem.

So smart gun tech will not solve our problem with people shooting each other, 
and if you have kids and own a gun, and the gun is not in a safe, (a real one 
that costs enough to actually work) and your kids shoots someone, you need to 
go to jail dad or mom.

I live in a high crime area. I do not have a carry permit but I own a gun. I 
like the idea that if someone breaks in I have a chance to defend my life. I 
also know that this is the most long shot (funny choice of words) threat to my 
life as I careen around the beltway of DC where people die every day. But even 
so the fact is that where I live this does happen and as a guy who walks in and 
out of his door every day with thousands of dollars of musical gear many times 
a week, I do actually have a bit of a target on my door. And if I should ever 
have to use deadly force to defend myself against people desperate enough to 
come into my crib with evil intent, I am not trusting the same guys who make it 
impossible for me to put anyone on hold on my phone, or who turn my computer 
into a brick every time I play a freak'n Youtube video to make sure my gun 
works without a quick reboot to reset whatever twitchy tech bullshit is 
keeping me from saying please shop
 elsewhere at 140 decibels.

America does seem to have a shooting each other problem.It may not have any 
simple solution. But I don't believe that pursuing make believe solutions to 
make ourselves feel better that we are doing SOMETHING is the answer.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :


Recently I've seen more and more news articles about smart guns, which can be 
personalized such that they can only be fired by their owners or someone 
pre-authorized by them. Ah, I said to myself, this may help in the attempts 
to wake America up to the need for some kind of effective gun control.

Imagine my shock at my own naivete when I read this excellent article, and 
learned how the gun industry and the NRA are already in cahoots -- long before 
an effective smart gun ever appears on the market -- to co-opt the technology 
to eliminate current gun laws and turn America into the carry your gun 
anytime, and anywhere nation they fantasize about in their wet dreams. 


If this is how America reacts to a rare sane idea in the gun control battle, I 
almost hope the members of the NRA succeed in their quest, and turn the country 
into the Everyone-Armed-At-All-Times-Free-For-All Disneyland they hope for. 
Then possibly they'd all shoot each other and the world would finally be a 
saner place. 


Pando at the NRA: The
Zuckerberg of guns could save lives and make millions, but he'll have to 
fight the NRA first

 
   Pando at the NRA: The Zuckerberg of guns could...
I flew in to Indianapolis on Friday morning, sleep deprived and dispirited 
after spending a red-eye flight stuck next to a guy with foul breath who passed 
ou...  
View on pando.com Preview by Yahoo  
  
 

[FairfieldLife] Golod's pyramid!

2014-05-09 Thread cardemais...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
http://www.360cities.net/image/inside-alexander-golods-pyramid-april-2012-russia#90.21,-79.79,110.0
 
http://www.360cities.net/image/inside-alexander-golods-pyramid-april-2012-russia#90.21,-79.79,110.0


 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than I thought

2014-05-09 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com



  
snip excellent stuff to
I live in a high crime area. I do not have a carry permit but I own a gun. I 
like the idea that if someone breaks in I have a chance to defend my life. I 
also know that this is the most long shot (funny choice of words) threat to my 
life as I careen around the beltway of DC where people die every day. But even 
so the fact is that where I live this does happen and as a guy who walks in and 
out of his door every day with thousands of dollars of musical gear many times 
a week, I do actually have a bit of a target on my door. And if I should ever 
have to use deadly force to defend myself against people desperate enough to 
come into my crib with evil intent, I am not trusting the same guys who make it 
impossible for me to put anyone on hold on my phone, or who turn my computer 
into a brick every time I play a freak'n Youtube video to make sure my gun 
works without a quick reboot to reset whatever twitchy tech bullshit is 
keeping me from saying please shop
 elsewhere at 140 decibels.

I've been thinking about your reply, Curtis, and it's helped me to see how much 
of my current world view is colored by where I live. I have lived in places 
where I *should* have been totin' a gun. In parts of Morocco, for example, or 
when I made an ill-advised Road Trip to Algeria without realizing it was a war 
zone. And in Santa Fe I admit to having actually owned a sawed-off shotgun for 
home protection because I wandered into a Gun Show there one day and looked 
around the National Guard Armory at the people around me who *did* own guns, 
and figured that I should get one to, to protect myself from *them*.  :-)

I never wound up firing the shotgun, even at a test range, and gave it to the 
Police Department when I left Santa Fe for good. (I thought that would be wiser 
than giving it to a friend or just tossing it in a dumpster.)  And since then 
I've been living in Europe, which is so NOT a gun culture. Yes, people go 
hunting, and use shotguns, airguns, and the occasional rifle to do so, but in 
all three of the countries I've lived in, the concept of owning a handgun -- or 
needing one -- simply wouldn't occur to 95% of the population. In some of the 
countries, like France, it would be hard to even buy one. 


Guns just really aren't the dick substitutes here that they are in America. 
Europe is just SO not a gun-totin' culture. At least at this point, and in the 
'hoods I choose to frequent. 


That said, if I were writing this from, say, Uganda or the Ukraine, I might 
have a Glock in an EZ-Out holster mounted under my desk. 


It's just that I don't have to think about that shit living where I live right 
now. I might have to if I were back in the US, even in relatively peaceful 
Santa Fe. I'm just happy that I don't have to live with that ever-present 
threat of crime (or FEAR of the ever-present threat of crime) that drives 
America to be such a gun culture. 


The most damage the average Dutch person is going to be able to do to me is by 
ramming me with his bicycle while trying to text while riding. And I'm not 
really convinced that either of us carrying a BFG (Big Fucking Gun) would make 
even that encounter more productive.  :-)




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :


Recently I've seen more and more news articles about smart guns, which can be 
personalized such that they can only be fired by their owners or someone 
pre-authorized by them. Ah, I said to myself, this may help in the attempts 
to wake America up to the need for some kind of effective gun control.

Imagine my shock at my own naivete when I read this excellent article, and 
learned how the gun industry and the NRA are already in cahoots -- long before 
an effective smart gun ever appears on the market -- to co-opt the technology 
to eliminate current gun laws and turn America into the carry your gun 
anytime, and anywhere nation they fantasize about in their wet dreams. 


If this is how America reacts to a rare sane idea in the gun control battle, I 
almost hope the members of the NRA succeed in their quest, and turn the country 
into the Everyone-Armed-At-All-Times-Free-For-All Disneyland they hope for. 
Then possibly they'd all shoot each other and the world would finally be a 
saner place. 


Pando at the NRA: The
Zuckerberg of guns could save lives and make millions, but he'll have to 
fight the NRA first

 
   Pando at the NRA: The Zuckerberg of guns could...
I flew in to Indianapolis on Friday morning, sleep deprived and dispirited 
after spending a red-eye flight stuck next to a guy with foul breath who passed 
ou...  
View on pando.com Preview by Yahoo  



Re: [FairfieldLife] For the anti-abortionists here -- choke on this.

2014-05-09 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
If you want to diss your imaginary God, it is helpful to keep in mind that She, 
is, in fact, female, and always will be. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 The guy has a point. And he also has a point that God -- if The Bible can be 
seen as an accurate record of His works -- has killed off far more of His 
creations (human beings) than the human beings ever did. Based on the cast of 
The Bible, that is. God just *rocks* at genocide, even according to His holy 
Word.  :-) 

 

 From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, May 9, 2014 6:20 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] For the anti-abortionists here -- choke on this.
 
 
   Is The Bible Pro-Life? https://www.tytnetwork.com/2014/05/09/bible-pro-life/
 
 
 https://www.tytnetwork.com/2014/05/09/bible-pro-life/
 
 Is The Bible Pro-Life? https://www.tytnetwork.com/2014/05/09/bible-pro-life/ 
Cenk Uygur (http://www.twitter.com/cenkuygur) host of The Young Turks reads 
directly from The Bible in order to answer the question of whether or not G...


 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] For the anti-abortionists here -- choke on this.

2014-05-09 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

On 5/9/2014 4:01 PM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

The guy has a point. And he also has a point that God -- if The Bible 
can be seen as an accurate record of His works -- has killed off far 
more of His creations (human beings) than the human beings ever did. 
Based on the cast of The Bible, that is. God just *rocks* at 
genocide, even according to His holy Word.  :-)


Never pass up an opportunity to win a religious debate, even if you have 
to sink low enough to use a tragedy as your proof. Go figure.



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Re: [FairfieldLife] For the anti-abortionists here -- choke on this.

2014-05-09 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

On 5/9/2014 11:20 AM, Duveyoung wrote:

 For the anti-abortionists here -- choke on this.

Almost everyone posting to FFL seems to be anti-abortion- but they 
might also exercise their right to choose. So, what's your point?



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Re: [FairfieldLife] For the anti-abortionists here -- choke on this.

2014-05-09 Thread nablusoss1008
First you experience Shiva for some time, then Vishnu and when you start to 
experience the Devi it has no end. - Maharishi, from private notes
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :

 If you want to diss your imaginary God, it is helpful to keep in mind that 
She, is, in fact, female, and always will be. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 The guy has a point. And he also has a point that God -- if The Bible can be 
seen as an accurate record of His works -- has killed off far more of His 
creations (human beings) than the human beings ever did. Based on the cast of 
The Bible, that is. God just *rocks* at genocide, even according to His holy 
Word.  :-) 

 

 
 From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, May 9, 2014 6:20 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] For the anti-abortionists here -- choke on this.
 
 
   Is The Bible Pro-Life? https://www.tytnetwork.com/2014/05/09/bible-pro-life/
 
 
 https://www.tytnetwork.com/2014/05/09/bible-pro-life/
 
 Is The Bible Pro-Life? https://www.tytnetwork.com/2014/05/09/bible-pro-life/ 
Cenk Uygur (http://www.twitter.com/cenkuygur) host of The Young Turks reads 
directly from The Bible in order to answer the question of whether or not G...


 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] It turns out that America is more insane than I thought

2014-05-09 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/9/2014 6:29 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:


 It turns out that America is more insane than I thought

More insane than where you're living - next door to the neo-Nazi 
skinhead bikers in Holland? Go figure.


If this is how America reacts to a rare sane idea in the gun control 
battle, I almost hope the members of the NRA succeed in their quest, 
and turn the country into the Everyone-Armed-At-All-Times-Free-For-All 
Disneyland they hope for. Then possibly they'd all shoot each other 
and the world would finally be a saner place. 


You are so eager to deny Americans their civil rights, next you'll be 
wanting to take away the right to same sex marriage, gay and lesbian 
rights, and the right to vote regardless of skin color. Maybe you should 
just stay over there with the skinheads. Have a nice day.




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Re: [FairfieldLife] For the anti-abortionists here -- choke on this.

2014-05-09 Thread nablusoss1008
They are ? I don't see why unless they are certain a soul has entered the 
fetus. Otherwise It's like burning down an abandoned house 
 - Maharishi

 

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 On 5/9/2014 11:20 AM, Duveyoung wrote:
 
  For the anti-abortionists here -- choke on this.
 
 Almost everyone posting to FFL seems to be anti-abortion- but they might 
also exercise their right to choose. So, what's your point?
 

   https://www.tytnetwork.com/2014/05/09/bible-pro-life/ 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] For the anti-abortionists here -- choke on this.

2014-05-09 Thread Duveyoung
Shows ya don't know Cenk.  (And you should note that I would readily admit that 
he's an over the top ignorant asshole about a couple topics -- religion being 
one of them -- yet his political views are progressive enough to garner my 
approbation.) 

And yeah, I'm willing to take instruction from anyone who USES LOGIC WITH 
CONSISTENTLY DEFINED TERMS even though he's an over the top asshole with 
terrible and negative knee-jerk conceits about religion.  

He plainly demonstrates that alternate interpretations about biblical passages 
are easily imagined and robustly defended, and his sermon alone is a proof of 
sorts that the Bible is an open-to-interpretation document which will have 
necessarily differing value -- according to the wherewithal of the reader.   

 This said, reading the Bible seems to me to have the same heft as reading any 
other scriptures if one is determined to read with mindful integrity -- such 
that the reading BUILDS NEURONS that model the reading experience's core 
concepts.  Any scripture'll do, but the Bible has all the buzzwords of 
spirituality handled multiple times with delicate nuance and usage -- such that 
definitions and values emerge which then can serve the human with a skill-set 
and tool-box with which to have a deeper clarity about life's daily puzzles of 
morality and existence.  

Ask your average person What is being? and we all know the 
spiritual-amateurism with which the attempts to answer would be wielded.  But 
have your average person read the Bible even once, and hoo boy, that person is  
going to have come to many conclusions and be able to answer a HOST OF INQUIRY. 
 Not that that would save a soul a seat in Heaven, but I could consider being a 
dilettante in almost any endeavor as a life plus -- a profit.

As for when a human being is OFFICIALLY a soul -- whew, I couldn't say, but I 
could speculate for HOURS.  My best guess is when the first breath is taken -- 
but my definition of soul would bother most folks.

But, abort a few grams of biological material that could become a viable 
infant?  I got no problem with that.  Once a fetus has a face, heartbeat and a 
nervous system that processes pain, then I'm saying no abortion allowed for 
most cases.  But this is just me -- can't defend it as dogma.

Edg

 


Re: [FairfieldLife] For the anti-abortionists here -- choke on this.

2014-05-09 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
If there is any truth to the accusations that M was dipping his *wick* in 
places a monk shouldn't be, that might be a useful explanation. 
On Friday, May 9, 2014 2:44 PM, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
  
  
They are ? I don't see why unless they are certain a soul has entered the 
fetus. Otherwise It's like burning down an abandoned house 
- Maharishi



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :


On 5/9/2014 11:20 AM, Duveyoung wrote:

 For the anti-abortionists here -- choke on this.

Almost everyone posting to FFL seems to be anti-abortion- but
they might also exercise their right to choose. So, what's your
point?


 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than I thought

2014-05-09 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/9/2014 2:52 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
I've been thinking about your reply, Curtis, and it's helped me to see 
how much of my current world view is colored by where I live. I have 
lived in places where I *should* have been totin' a gun. In parts of 
Morocco, for example, or when I made an ill-advised Road Trip to 
Algeria without realizing it was a war zone. And in Santa Fe I admit 
to having actually owned a sawed-off shotgun for home protection 
because I wandered into a Gun Show there one day and looked around the 
National Guard Armory at the people around me who *did* own guns, and 
figured that I should get one to, to protect myself from *them*.  :-)


Almost everything you posted here is illegal - it's against the law to 
carry a hidden firearm on your person in Morroco, Algeria or Sante Fe, 
NM. And it's also illegal to purchase a sawed off shot gun at a gun 
show anywhere. What are you insane?


It's also illegal for an insane person to even own a gun in the U.S. 
You're not even making any sense. Go figure..



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than I thought

2014-05-09 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/9/2014 11:10 AM, curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
 --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :

 I don't own a gun but for the reasons you state I am very much for 
 keeping the right of people to own them.  However I can't see much 
 sense in people owning automatic weapons.
 
It is illegal in the U.S. to own a fully automatic weapon, so most 
people own semi-automatics.

Around here you can carry a rifle in plain sight if you are going to or 
returning from a hunting session. You can also carry a hidden firearm on 
your person to certain places, if you have a concealed gun permit. In an 
altercation with someone you should never reveal your weapon unless you 
plan to use it in order to defend your life or family.

Never go to a gun fight without a gun. That's what I think.

 And I think parading around open carry sort of sets things up for 
 gun confiscation.
 
You aren't supposed to get your gun confiscated it it's legal to carry 
your firearm openly.

 Not big on seeing the open carry nuts at Starbucks.
 
If you saw someone openly carrying a gun at Starbucks and it was legal 
for them to do so, it might give you pause before you started acting 
like a nut and shooting up the place.


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Re: [FairfieldLife] For the anti-abortionists here -- choke on this.

2014-05-09 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

On 5/9/2014 4:44 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote:


They are ? I don't see why unless they are certain a soul has entered 
the fetus. Otherwise It's like burning down an abandoned house


- Maharishi



So, I don't think anybody on FFL would /voluntarily/ get pregnant /*just 
so they could have an abortion*/. Most people are against abortion on 
/general health principles/. And, a woman's right to choose trumps laws 
against abortion, but that doesn't mean you should have unprotected sex 
just to prove a point.


People should practice family planning in order to avoid the 
responsibility that lies ahead. Since, you're not female, it's really 
none of your business anyway. Go figure.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :

On 5/9/2014 11:20 AM, Duveyoung wrote:

 For the anti-abortionists here -- choke on this.

Almost everyone posting to FFL seems to be anti-abortion- but
they might also exercise their right to choose. So, what's your point?





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Re: [FairfieldLife] For the anti-abortionists here -- choke on this.

2014-05-09 Thread nablusoss1008

 You are obviously easy to fool. Everyone knows that never happened and is a 
rumor put out by Rick Archer to gain publicity and hits for batgap. The 
fellow is obviously more than a little naïve. The only thing he accomplished is 
seeing his old friends cross over to the other side of the street when they see 
him.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote :

 If there is any truth to the accusations that M was dipping his *wick* in 
places a monk shouldn't be, that might be a useful explanation. 
 On Friday, May 9, 2014 2:44 PM, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 
   They are ? I don't see why unless they are certain a soul has entered the 
fetus. Otherwise It's like burning down an abandoned house 
 - Maharishi

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :

 On 5/9/2014 11:20 AM, Duveyoung wrote:
 
  For the anti-abortionists here -- choke on this.
 
 Almost everyone posting to FFL seems to be anti-abortion- but they might 
also exercise their right to choose. So, what's your point?
 

   https://www.tytnetwork.com/2014/05/09/bible-pro-life/ 
https://www.tytnetwork.com/2014/05/09/bible-pro-life/
 
 

 
 

 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] For the anti-abortionists here -- choke on this.

2014-05-09 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/9/2014 4:48 PM, Duveyoung wrote:

 But, abort a few grams of biological material that could become a 
 viable infant?
 
It's probably a lot more complicated than that for most women.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] For the anti-abortionists here -- choke on this.

2014-05-09 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

On 5/9/2014 4:54 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
If there is any truth to the accusations that M was dipping his *wick* 
in places a monk shouldn't be, that might be a useful explanation.


Maybe. Most men have a very different attitude toward conception and 
abortion SINCE THEY NEVER HAVE TO HAVE ONE. Go figure.


On Friday, May 9, 2014 2:44 PM, nablusoss1008 
no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
They are ? I don't see why unless they are certain a soul has entered 
the fetus. Otherwise It's like burning down an abandoned house

- Maharishi




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Re: [FairfieldLife] For the anti-abortionists here -- choke on this.

2014-05-09 Thread nablusoss1008

 You are obviously easy to fool. Everyone knows that never happened and is a 
rumor put out by Rick Archer to gain publicity and hits for batgap. The only 
thing he accomplished is seeing his old friends cross over to the other side of 
the street when they see him.

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote :

 If there is any truth to the accusations that M was dipping his *wick* in 
places a monk shouldn't be, that might be a useful explanation. 
 On Friday, May 9, 2014 2:44 PM, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 
   They are ? I don't see why unless they are certain a soul has entered the 
fetus. Otherwise It's like burning down an abandoned house 
 - Maharishi

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :

 On 5/9/2014 11:20 AM, Duveyoung wrote:
 
  For the anti-abortionists here -- choke on this.
 
 Almost everyone posting to FFL seems to be anti-abortion- but they might 
also exercise their right to choose. So, what's your point?
 

   https://www.tytnetwork.com/2014/05/09/bible-pro-life/ 
https://www.tytnetwork.com/2014/05/09/bible-pro-life/
 
 

 
 

 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] For the anti-abortionists here -- choke on this.

2014-05-09 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Thanks for that!
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 First you experience Shiva for some time, then Vishnu and when you start to 
experience the Devi it has no end. - Maharishi, from private notes
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :

 If you want to diss your imaginary God, it is helpful to keep in mind that 
She, is, in fact, female, and always will be. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 The guy has a point. And he also has a point that God -- if The Bible can be 
seen as an accurate record of His works -- has killed off far more of His 
creations (human beings) than the human beings ever did. Based on the cast of 
The Bible, that is. God just *rocks* at genocide, even according to His holy 
Word.  :-) 

 

 
 From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, May 9, 2014 6:20 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] For the anti-abortionists here -- choke on this.
 
 
   Is The Bible Pro-Life? https://www.tytnetwork.com/2014/05/09/bible-pro-life/
 
 
 https://www.tytnetwork.com/2014/05/09/bible-pro-life/
 
 Is The Bible Pro-Life? https://www.tytnetwork.com/2014/05/09/bible-pro-life/ 
Cenk Uygur (http://www.twitter.com/cenkuygur) host of The Young Turks reads 
directly from The Bible in order to answer the question of whether or not G...


 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] The Prez is in the area

2014-05-09 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]

He wants to identify with leprechauns?

On 05/09/2014 07:00 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
He just wants to *identify* with the *little* people and show 
everybody that he's just one of us.

On Thursday, May 8, 2014 7:18 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
And guess where he's going tomorrow! Walmart! (The one in Mountain
View). weird

Must be shopping for Mother's Day.








Re: [FairfieldLife] For the anti-abortionists here -- choke on this.

2014-05-09 Thread nablusoss1008
Someone sent me this, also from private notes but at a different occasion:
 In the beginning days of transcendence you will start to experience Shiva. 
When you have experienced all the aspects of Shiva you will begin to experience 
Vishnu. When you have experienced all the aspects of Vishnu you will begin to 
experience the Divine Mother, and that has no end.

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :

 Thanks for that!
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 First you experience Shiva for some time, then Vishnu and when you start to 
experience the Devi it has no end. - Maharishi, from private notes
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :

 If you want to diss your imaginary God, it is helpful to keep in mind that 
She, is, in fact, female, and always will be. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 The guy has a point. And he also has a point that God -- if The Bible can be 
seen as an accurate record of His works -- has killed off far more of His 
creations (human beings) than the human beings ever did. Based on the cast of 
The Bible, that is. God just *rocks* at genocide, even according to His holy 
Word.  :-) 

 

 
 From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, May 9, 2014 6:20 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] For the anti-abortionists here -- choke on this.
 
 
   Is The Bible Pro-Life? https://www.tytnetwork.com/2014/05/09/bible-pro-life/
 
 
 https://www.tytnetwork.com/2014/05/09/bible-pro-life/
 
 Is The Bible Pro-Life? https://www.tytnetwork.com/2014/05/09/bible-pro-life/ 
Cenk Uygur (http://www.twitter.com/cenkuygur) host of The Young Turks reads 
directly from The Bible in order to answer the question of whether or not G...


 
 View on www.tytnetwork.com 
https://www.tytnetwork.com/2014/05/09/bible-pro-life/
 Preview by Yahoo
 

 

 






















Re: [FairfieldLife] For the anti-abortionists here -- choke on this.

2014-05-09 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Please,  Cenk isn't hard to figure out. Another dude that wants a way out of 
being a responsible adult. He not only claimed to have found abortion 
acceptable within the Bible but also infanticide! I took the time to read the 
passages he claimed to be reading and found something entirely different and 
nothing in line with what he was saying. I'd be curious to know which 
translation he used. I read the New Living Translation and in no way is there 
some *potion* that causes an abortion.
On Friday, May 9, 2014 2:48 PM, Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
  
  
Shows ya don't know Cenk.  (And you should note that I would readily admit that 
he's an over the top ignorant asshole about a couple topics -- religion being 
one of them -- yet his political views are progressive enough to garner my 
approbation.) 

And yeah, I'm willing to take instruction from anyone who USES LOGIC WITH 
CONSISTENTLY DEFINED TERMS even though he's an over the top asshole with 
terrible and negative knee-jerk conceits about religion.  

He plainly demonstrates that alternate interpretations about biblical passages 
are easily imagined and robustly defended, and his sermon alone is a proof of 
sorts that the Bible is an open-to-interpretation document which will have 
necessarily differing value -- according to the wherewithal of the reader.  

This said, reading the Bible seems to me to have the same heft as reading any 
other scriptures if one is determined to read with mindful integrity -- such 
that the reading BUILDS NEURONS that model the reading experience's core 
concepts.  Any scripture'll do, but the Bible has all the buzzwords of 
spirituality handled multiple times with delicate nuance and usage -- such that 
definitions and values emerge which then can serve the human with a skill-set 
and tool-box with which to have a deeper clarity about life's daily puzzles of 
morality and existence.  

Ask your average person What is being? and we all know the 
spiritual-amateurism with which the attempts to answer would be wielded.  But 
have your average person read the Bible even once, and hoo boy, that person is  
going to have come to many conclusions and be able to answer a HOST OF INQUIRY. 
 Not that that would save a soul a seat in Heaven, but I could consider being a 
dilettante in almost any endeavor as a life plus -- a profit.

As for when a human being is OFFICIALLY a soul -- whew, I couldn't say, but I 
could speculate for HOURS.  My best guess is when the first breath is taken -- 
but my definition of soul would bother most folks.

But, abort a few grams of biological material that could become a viable 
infant?  I got no problem with that.  Once a fetus has a face, heartbeat and a 
nervous system that processes pain, then I'm saying no abortion allowed for 
most cases.  But this is just me -- can't defend it as dogma.

Edg

   
 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than I thought

2014-05-09 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I live in a bit of crime area and work in a resurgent area.  But I do plan to 
get my cc permit in a couple weeks. I went to the shooting range last week to 
get familiar with the two hand guns passed down to me from my grandfather and 
dad to me.  One is a 32 cal. Smith  Wesson snub nose revolver, and the other 
is a 32 cal. Colt semi automatic.  There was no thrill for me in firing the 
weapons, and it was incredibly loud.  But I figure I'd rather have the permit, 
than not.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :

 I agree with the gun saturation making this a big problem, regardless if all 
gun sales were stopped today. My dad had quite a collection - hundreds - and 
one thing I can say, is that guns last. Not like a modern appliance, where 
circuits or electronics can stop working, or a plastic part eventually breaks. 
Guns are built with a few working parts, all metal, and will continue to 
accurately function for a hundred years, or more. I still have a .32 colt 
semi-automatic, and a couple of .38 revolvers, colt and sw - not so much for 
protection, as for target shooting.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote :

 Couple of caveats. I think the NRA has done a lot of harm to the county and I 
am appalled at the power they wield in US politics beyond all reason. I am not 
a member and not a fan of the NRA for lots of reasons. But I also grew up 
within hunting culture which means gun culture. I knew how to  check if a gun 
was loaded to sure no one got hurt by elementary school. ( I believe all kids 
should learn this life saving skill.)

But the smart gun is no solution to anything except maybe the company who gets 
to cash in on the hype. The thing about guns in America is that the ship 
already sailed. We have guns out the wazoo and there will be no retrofitting 
all of them with anything. If we never made or imported another gun we would 
still have a gun problem. I put that in quotes because since I saw Bowling 
for Columbine by Michael Moore and found out how many guns the relatively 
pacifist Canadians have. I now see the issue as a people problem.

So smart gun tech will not solve our problem with people shooting each other, 
and if you have kids and own a gun, and the gun is not in a safe, (a real one 
that costs enough to actually work) and your kids shoots someone, you need to 
go to jail dad or mom.

I live in a high crime area. I do not have a carry permit but I own a gun. I 
like the idea that if someone breaks in I have a chance to defend my life. I 
also know that this is the most long shot (funny choice of words) threat to my 
life as I careen around the beltway of DC where people die every day. But even 
so the fact is that where I live this does happen and as a guy who walks in and 
out of his door every day with thousands of dollars of musical gear many times 
a week, I do actually have a bit of a target on my door. And if I should ever 
have to use deadly force to defend myself against people desperate enough to 
come into my crib with evil intent, I am not trusting the same guys who make it 
impossible for me to put anyone on hold on my phone, or who turn my computer 
into a brick every time I play a freak'n Youtube video to make sure my gun 
works without a quick reboot to reset whatever twitchy tech bullshit is 
keeping me from saying please shop elsewhere at 140 decibels.

America does seem to have a shooting each other problem.It may not have any 
simple solution. But I don't believe that pursuing make believe solutions to 
make ourselves feel better that we are doing SOMETHING is the answer.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 Recently I've seen more and more news articles about smart guns, which can 
be personalized such that they can only be fired by their owners or someone 
pre-authorized by them. Ah, I said to myself, this may help in the attempts 
to wake America up to the need for some kind of effective gun control.
 

 Imagine my shock at my own naivete when I read this excellent article, and 
learned how the gun industry and the NRA are already in cahoots -- long before 
an effective smart gun ever appears on the market -- to co-opt the technology 
to eliminate current gun laws and turn America into the carry your gun 
anytime, and anywhere nation they fantasize about in their wet dreams. 

 

 If this is how America reacts to a rare sane idea in the gun control battle, I 
almost hope the members of the NRA succeed in their quest, and turn the country 
into the Everyone-Armed-At-All-Times-Free-For-All Disneyland they hope for. 
Then possibly they'd all shoot each other and the world would finally be a 
saner place. 

 

 Pando at the NRA: The Zuckerberg of guns could save lives and make millions, 
but he'll have to fight the NRA first
 

 
 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than I thought

2014-05-09 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

snip

 The most damage the average Dutch person is going to be able to do to me is by 
ramming me with his bicycle while trying to text while riding. And I'm not 
really convinced that either of us carrying a BFG (Big Fucking Gun) would make 
even that encounter more productive.  :-)


C: Around there the statistically more significant threat is on the super 
highways. I don't feel fear where I live but I do when I drive sometimes.  Some 
people get there aggression out when driving and the tolerance for error is 
very small on our over congested roads. Sometimes I realize that some driver 
would really rather DIE than let my car over so I can get to my ramp! The game 
of chicken is pretty constant and so unnecessary. 

I am what they call a yielder driver. I get a buzz from letting someone into a 
lane in front of me and seeing the friendly hand wave. There was a funny 
Seinfeld where Jerry got very wound up when someone didn't give him his wave. 
I can actually relate.  

So my obit is very likely to include something about being in traffic and very 
unlikely to be that I died in a hail of bullets. I try to keep my fear in line 
with the stats as best I can.



 From: curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 
   snip excellent stuff to
 I live in a high crime area. I do not have a carry permit but I own a gun. I 
like the idea that if someone breaks in I have a chance to defend my life. I 
also know that this is the most long shot (funny choice of words) threat to my 
life as I careen around the beltway of DC where people die every day. But even 
so the fact is that where I live this does happen and as a guy who walks in and 
out of his door every day with thousands of dollars of musical gear many times 
a week, I do actually have a bit of a target on my door. And if I should ever 
have to use deadly force to defend myself against people desperate enough to 
come into my crib with evil intent, I am not trusting the same guys who make it 
impossible for me to put anyone on hold on my phone, or who turn my computer 
into a brick every time I play a freak'n Youtube video to make sure my gun 
works without a quick reboot to reset whatever twitchy tech bullshit is 
keeping me from saying please shop elsewhere at 140 decibels.
 

 I've been thinking about your reply, Curtis, and it's helped me to see how 
much of my current world view is colored by where I live. I have lived in 
places where I *should* have been totin' a gun. In parts of Morocco, for 
example, or when I made an ill-advised Road Trip to Algeria without realizing 
it was a war zone. And in Santa Fe I admit to having actually owned a sawed-off 
shotgun for home protection because I wandered into a Gun Show there one day 
and looked around the National Guard Armory at the people around me who *did* 
own guns, and figured that I should get one to, to protect myself from *them*.  
:-)
 

 I never wound up firing the shotgun, even at a test range, and gave it to the 
Police Department when I left Santa Fe for good. (I thought that would be wiser 
than giving it to a friend or just tossing it in a dumpster.)  And since then 
I've been living in Europe, which is so NOT a gun culture. Yes, people go 
hunting, and use shotguns, airguns, and the occasional rifle to do so, but in 
all three of the countries I've lived in, the concept of owning a handgun -- or 
needing one -- simply wouldn't occur to 95% of the population. In some of the 
countries, like France, it would be hard to even buy one. 

 

 Guns just really aren't the dick substitutes here that they are in America. 
Europe is just SO not a gun-totin' culture. At least at this point, and in the 
'hoods I choose to frequent. 

 

 That said, if I were writing this from, say, Uganda or the Ukraine, I might 
have a Glock in an EZ-Out holster mounted under my desk. 

 

 It's just that I don't have to think about that shit living where I live right 
now. I might have to if I were back in the US, even in relatively peaceful 
Santa Fe. I'm just happy that I don't have to live with that ever-present 
threat of crime (or FEAR of the ever-present threat of crime) that drives 
America to be such a gun culture. 

 

 The most damage the average Dutch person is going to be able to do to me is by 
ramming me with his bicycle while trying to text while riding. And I'm not 
really convinced that either of us carrying a BFG (Big Fucking Gun) would make 
even that encounter more productive.  :-)




 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 Recently I've seen more and more news articles about smart guns, which can 
be personalized such that they can only be fired by their owners or someone 
pre-authorized by them. Ah, I said to myself, this may help in the attempts 
to wake America up to the need for some kind of effective gun control.
 

 Imagine my shock at my own naivete when I read this excellent 

[FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than I thought

2014-05-09 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :

 I live in a bit of crime area and work in a resurgent area.  But I do plan to 
get my cc permit in a couple weeks. I went to the shooting range last week to 
get familiar with the two hand guns passed down to me from my grandfather and 
dad to me.  One is a 32 cal. Smith  Wesson snub nose revolver, and the other 
is a 32 cal. Colt semi automatic.  There was no thrill for me in firing the 
weapons, and it was incredibly loud.  But I figure I'd rather have the permit, 
than not.
 

 Whoa, so strange for me to read about actual people who own actual guns. I 
live in an area where I wouldn't have to lock anything. Not my car, not my 
house, not my tack room which contains approximately $35K worth of saddles. I 
am very fortunate. I am surrounded by law-abiding neighbors and owls, salt 
water bays and Douglas fir. I don't want to have to live in fear nor do I ever 
want to feel I should own let alone carry a gun. I am vehemently anti-gun. It 
makes no sense to me that any flawed human being should actually be carrying 
around or have access to a weapon that responds so quickly to a whim or an 
emotion that you can't take back once the bloody thing fires. No thanks. I'll 
just stay someplace where deadly weapons are not considered as essential as a 
toothbrush.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :

 I agree with the gun saturation making this a big problem, regardless if all 
gun sales were stopped today. My dad had quite a collection - hundreds - and 
one thing I can say, is that guns last. Not like a modern appliance, where 
circuits or electronics can stop working, or a plastic part eventually breaks. 
Guns are built with a few working parts, all metal, and will continue to 
accurately function for a hundred years, or more. I still have a .32 colt 
semi-automatic, and a couple of .38 revolvers, colt and sw - not so much for 
protection, as for target shooting.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote :

 Couple of caveats. I think the NRA has done a lot of harm to the county and I 
am appalled at the power they wield in US politics beyond all reason. I am not 
a member and not a fan of the NRA for lots of reasons. But I also grew up 
within hunting culture which means gun culture. I knew how to  check if a gun 
was loaded to sure no one got hurt by elementary school. ( I believe all kids 
should learn this life saving skill.)

But the smart gun is no solution to anything except maybe the company who gets 
to cash in on the hype. The thing about guns in America is that the ship 
already sailed. We have guns out the wazoo and there will be no retrofitting 
all of them with anything. If we never made or imported another gun we would 
still have a gun problem. I put that in quotes because since I saw Bowling 
for Columbine by Michael Moore and found out how many guns the relatively 
pacifist Canadians have. I now see the issue as a people problem.

So smart gun tech will not solve our problem with people shooting each other, 
and if you have kids and own a gun, and the gun is not in a safe, (a real one 
that costs enough to actually work) and your kids shoots someone, you need to 
go to jail dad or mom.

I live in a high crime area. I do not have a carry permit but I own a gun. I 
like the idea that if someone breaks in I have a chance to defend my life. I 
also know that this is the most long shot (funny choice of words) threat to my 
life as I careen around the beltway of DC where people die every day. But even 
so the fact is that where I live this does happen and as a guy who walks in and 
out of his door every day with thousands of dollars of musical gear many times 
a week, I do actually have a bit of a target on my door. And if I should ever 
have to use deadly force to defend myself against people desperate enough to 
come into my crib with evil intent, I am not trusting the same guys who make it 
impossible for me to put anyone on hold on my phone, or who turn my computer 
into a brick every time I play a freak'n Youtube video to make sure my gun 
works without a quick reboot to reset whatever twitchy tech bullshit is 
keeping me from saying please shop elsewhere at 140 decibels.

America does seem to have a shooting each other problem.It may not have any 
simple solution. But I don't believe that pursuing make believe solutions to 
make ourselves feel better that we are doing SOMETHING is the answer.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 Recently I've seen more and more news articles about smart guns, which can 
be personalized such that they can only be fired by their owners or someone 
pre-authorized by them. Ah, I said to myself, this may help in the attempts 
to wake America up to the need for some kind of effective gun control.
 

 Imagine my shock at my own naivete when I read this excellent article, and 
learned how the gun industry and the 

Re: [FairfieldLife] For the anti-abortionists here -- choke on this.

2014-05-09 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Quite remarkable, me seeing this description from you (here in my trailer park 
– lol) --
 

 My first thought was, “How could they know? I haven’t told anyone…”. 
Seriously, I noticed an alignment with Shiva, starting about 21 years ago – 
green, grey, discrimination, boldness, Guru Dev as Shiva during a walk in a 
canyon in 1996, etc. It seems the function of this alignment is to get clear, 
almost in a militant sort of way, the Kshatriya energy. Then, about five(?) 
years ago, I began losing my affinity for that Shiva energy, and everything 
began to turn yellow, like the sun, like Vishnu, all accepting, the rays of the 
sun, which penetrate into everything, every crevice, every perspective, every 
aspect of the mind and heart, bathed in light, unceasingly. Quite a lot to 
behold, and absorb. Then the Divine Mother comes into view, and as the notes 
you summarized, mention, “and that has no end”.
 

 I infinitely prefer spiritual experience, to what I may read in a book, or 
hear in a spiritually oriented gathering, so it is always amazing, and 
satisfying, to eventually see a verification of something I have been keeping 
private, for many years. I had no idea that this sequence of personal 
experience, as I described above, was known to anyone else.
  
 Thanks again.:-)
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 Someone sent me this, also from private notes but at a different occasion:
 In the beginning days of transcendence you will start to experience Shiva. 
When you have experienced all the aspects of Shiva you will begin to experience 
Vishnu. When you have experienced all the aspects of Vishnu you will begin to 
experience the Divine Mother, and that has no end.

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :

 Thanks for that!
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 First you experience Shiva for some time, then Vishnu and when you start to 
experience the Devi it has no end. - Maharishi, from private notes
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :

 If you want to diss your imaginary God, it is helpful to keep in mind that 
She, is, in fact, female, and always will be. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 The guy has a point. And he also has a point that God -- if The Bible can be 
seen as an accurate record of His works -- has killed off far more of His 
creations (human beings) than the human beings ever did. Based on the cast of 
The Bible, that is. God just *rocks* at genocide, even according to His holy 
Word.  :-) 

 

 
 From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, May 9, 2014 6:20 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] For the anti-abortionists here -- choke on this.
 
 
   Is The Bible Pro-Life? https://www.tytnetwork.com/2014/05/09/bible-pro-life/
 
 
 https://www.tytnetwork.com/2014/05/09/bible-pro-life/
 
 Is The Bible Pro-Life? https://www.tytnetwork.com/2014/05/09/bible-pro-life/ 
Cenk Uygur (http://www.twitter.com/cenkuygur) host of The Young Turks reads 
directly from The Bible in order to answer the question of whether or not G...


 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than I thought

2014-05-09 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
YES, they are LOUD - quite a shock wave.  
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :

 I live in a bit of crime area and work in a resurgent area.  But I do plan to 
get my cc permit in a couple weeks. I went to the shooting range last week to 
get familiar with the two hand guns passed down to me from my grandfather and 
dad to me.  One is a 32 cal. Smith  Wesson snub nose revolver, and the other 
is a 32 cal. Colt semi automatic.  There was no thrill for me in firing the 
weapons, and it was incredibly loud.  But I figure I'd rather have the permit, 
than not.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :

 I agree with the gun saturation making this a big problem, regardless if all 
gun sales were stopped today. My dad had quite a collection - hundreds - and 
one thing I can say, is that guns last. Not like a modern appliance, where 
circuits or electronics can stop working, or a plastic part eventually breaks. 
Guns are built with a few working parts, all metal, and will continue to 
accurately function for a hundred years, or more. I still have a .32 colt 
semi-automatic, and a couple of .38 revolvers, colt and sw - not so much for 
protection, as for target shooting.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote :

 Couple of caveats. I think the NRA has done a lot of harm to the county and I 
am appalled at the power they wield in US politics beyond all reason. I am not 
a member and not a fan of the NRA for lots of reasons. But I also grew up 
within hunting culture which means gun culture. I knew how to  check if a gun 
was loaded to sure no one got hurt by elementary school. ( I believe all kids 
should learn this life saving skill.)

But the smart gun is no solution to anything except maybe the company who gets 
to cash in on the hype. The thing about guns in America is that the ship 
already sailed. We have guns out the wazoo and there will be no retrofitting 
all of them with anything. If we never made or imported another gun we would 
still have a gun problem. I put that in quotes because since I saw Bowling 
for Columbine by Michael Moore and found out how many guns the relatively 
pacifist Canadians have. I now see the issue as a people problem.

So smart gun tech will not solve our problem with people shooting each other, 
and if you have kids and own a gun, and the gun is not in a safe, (a real one 
that costs enough to actually work) and your kids shoots someone, you need to 
go to jail dad or mom.

I live in a high crime area. I do not have a carry permit but I own a gun. I 
like the idea that if someone breaks in I have a chance to defend my life. I 
also know that this is the most long shot (funny choice of words) threat to my 
life as I careen around the beltway of DC where people die every day. But even 
so the fact is that where I live this does happen and as a guy who walks in and 
out of his door every day with thousands of dollars of musical gear many times 
a week, I do actually have a bit of a target on my door. And if I should ever 
have to use deadly force to defend myself against people desperate enough to 
come into my crib with evil intent, I am not trusting the same guys who make it 
impossible for me to put anyone on hold on my phone, or who turn my computer 
into a brick every time I play a freak'n Youtube video to make sure my gun 
works without a quick reboot to reset whatever twitchy tech bullshit is 
keeping me from saying please shop elsewhere at 140 decibels.

America does seem to have a shooting each other problem.It may not have any 
simple solution. But I don't believe that pursuing make believe solutions to 
make ourselves feel better that we are doing SOMETHING is the answer.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 Recently I've seen more and more news articles about smart guns, which can 
be personalized such that they can only be fired by their owners or someone 
pre-authorized by them. Ah, I said to myself, this may help in the attempts 
to wake America up to the need for some kind of effective gun control.
 

 Imagine my shock at my own naivete when I read this excellent article, and 
learned how the gun industry and the NRA are already in cahoots -- long before 
an effective smart gun ever appears on the market -- to co-opt the technology 
to eliminate current gun laws and turn America into the carry your gun 
anytime, and anywhere nation they fantasize about in their wet dreams. 

 

 If this is how America reacts to a rare sane idea in the gun control battle, I 
almost hope the members of the NRA succeed in their quest, and turn the country 
into the Everyone-Armed-At-All-Times-Free-For-All Disneyland they hope for. 
Then possibly they'd all shoot each other and the world would finally be a 
saner place. 

 

 Pando at the NRA: The Zuckerberg of guns could save lives and make millions, 
but he'll have to fight the NRA first
 

 
 
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than I thought

2014-05-09 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
The fellow I was with, at first gave me just ear plugs.  That didn't work. I 
then rented the big ear protectors.   

 Like Jim said, the Colt, as old as it was, was extremely reliable.
 

 The SW snub nose, takes a special bullet that is quite expensive, so I didn't 
practice much with that. 
 

 From what I've been told, it's a perfect defensive weapon.  No safety.  You 
just keep pulling the trigger until you don't need to anymore.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote :

 
 --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :

 I live in a bit of crime area and work in a resurgent area.  But I do plan to 
get my cc permit in a couple weeks. I went to the shooting range last week to 
get familiar with the two hand guns passed down to me from my grandfather and 
dad to me.  One is a 32 cal. Smith  Wesson snub nose revolver, and the other 
is a 32 cal. Colt semi automatic.  There was no thrill for me in firing the 
weapons, and it was incredibly loud.  But I figure I'd rather have the permit, 
than not.

C: Are you using the big ear protector headphone looking things at the range? 
Very important. I haven't shot at a range in over a decade I really should go 
again. I remember that the vibe was very serious, it felt tense but real. I 
enjoyed shooting at the range. Something zen about learning how to relax and 
squeeze. 

 A 32 should be a pleasure to shoot. You might consider getting some of the 
special rounds for self defense that up the stopping power for a smaller gun 
like that. Your gun store guy will know. Nothing like a wheel gun for 
reliability. I have a Walthur PPK .380 (think James Bond) which is semi auto. 
If I had it to do over again I would get a revolver. If you don't hold them 
right for the kick to eject the shell case right they can jam. 

Better to have it and not need it if you are in squirrelly areas. 


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :

 I agree with the gun saturation making this a big problem, regardless if all 
gun sales were stopped today. My dad had quite a collection - hundreds - and 
one thing I can say, is that guns last. Not like a modern appliance, where 
circuits or electronics can stop working, or a plastic part eventually breaks. 
Guns are built with a few working parts, all metal, and will continue to 
accurately function for a hundred years, or more. I still have a .32 colt 
semi-automatic, and a couple of .38 revolvers, colt and sw - not so much for 
protection, as for target shooting.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote :

 Couple of caveats. I think the NRA has done a lot of harm to the county and I 
am appalled at the power they wield in US politics beyond all reason. I am not 
a member and not a fan of the NRA for lots of reasons. But I also grew up 
within hunting culture which means gun culture. I knew how to  check if a gun 
was loaded to sure no one got hurt by elementary school. ( I believe all kids 
should learn this life saving skill.)

But the smart gun is no solution to anything except maybe the company who gets 
to cash in on the hype. The thing about guns in America is that the ship 
already sailed. We have guns out the wazoo and there will be no retrofitting 
all of them with anything. If we never made or imported another gun we would 
still have a gun problem. I put that in quotes because since I saw Bowling 
for Columbine by Michael Moore and found out how many guns the relatively 
pacifist Canadians have. I now see the issue as a people problem.

So smart gun tech will not solve our problem with people shooting each other, 
and if you have kids and own a gun, and the gun is not in a safe, (a real one 
that costs enough to actually work) and your kids shoots someone, you need to 
go to jail dad or mom.

I live in a high crime area. I do not have a carry permit but I own a gun. I 
like the idea that if someone breaks in I have a chance to defend my life. I 
also know that this is the most long shot (funny choice of words) threat to my 
life as I careen around the beltway of DC where people die every day. But even 
so the fact is that where I live this does happen and as a guy who walks in and 
out of his door every day with thousands of dollars of musical gear many times 
a week, I do actually have a bit of a target on my door. And if I should ever 
have to use deadly force to defend myself against people desperate enough to 
come into my crib with evil intent, I am not trusting the same guys who make it 
impossible for me to put anyone on hold on my phone, or who turn my computer 
into a brick every time I play a freak'n Youtube video to make sure my gun 
works without a quick reboot to reset whatever twitchy tech bullshit is 
keeping me from saying please shop elsewhere at 140 decibels.

America does seem to have a shooting each other problem.It may not have any 
simple solution. But I don't believe that pursuing make believe solutions to 

[FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than I thought

2014-05-09 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I know.  Kinda strange Ann.  These guns sat in a safe for probably 40 years 
untouched.  They've never been needed, and aren't really needed now.  But, as 
you mention, we do live in different areas. And, I like where I live.  It is a 
diverse area, that is attracting new residents as urban sprawl reverses and 
people move back to the city.  But, there is also a great element of 
unpredictability, and so, I am going to take a precautionary step should it 
ever be needed. 

 Owls.  Owls.  That must be so cool.  There used to be an owl that would come 
around every fall, but I think the people across the street got rid of the 
where that owl would sit.  It always caused such a ruckus among the other birds 
when he showed up.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :

 I live in a bit of crime area and work in a resurgent area.  But I do plan to 
get my cc permit in a couple weeks. I went to the shooting range last week to 
get familiar with the two hand guns passed down to me from my grandfather and 
dad to me.  One is a 32 cal. Smith  Wesson snub nose revolver, and the other 
is a 32 cal. Colt semi automatic.  There was no thrill for me in firing the 
weapons, and it was incredibly loud.  But I figure I'd rather have the permit, 
than not.
 

 Whoa, so strange for me to read about actual people who own actual guns. I 
live in an area where I wouldn't have to lock anything. Not my car, not my 
house, not my tack room which contains approximately $35K worth of saddles. I 
am very fortunate. I am surrounded by law-abiding neighbors and owls, salt 
water bays and Douglas fir. I don't want to have to live in fear nor do I ever 
want to feel I should own let alone carry a gun. I am vehemently anti-gun. It 
makes no sense to me that any flawed human being should actually be carrying 
around or have access to a weapon that responds so quickly to a whim or an 
emotion that you can't take back once the bloody thing fires. No thanks. I'll 
just stay someplace where deadly weapons are not considered as essential as a 
toothbrush.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :

 I agree with the gun saturation making this a big problem, regardless if all 
gun sales were stopped today. My dad had quite a collection - hundreds - and 
one thing I can say, is that guns last. Not like a modern appliance, where 
circuits or electronics can stop working, or a plastic part eventually breaks. 
Guns are built with a few working parts, all metal, and will continue to 
accurately function for a hundred years, or more. I still have a .32 colt 
semi-automatic, and a couple of .38 revolvers, colt and sw - not so much for 
protection, as for target shooting.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote :

 Couple of caveats. I think the NRA has done a lot of harm to the county and I 
am appalled at the power they wield in US politics beyond all reason. I am not 
a member and not a fan of the NRA for lots of reasons. But I also grew up 
within hunting culture which means gun culture. I knew how to  check if a gun 
was loaded to sure no one got hurt by elementary school. ( I believe all kids 
should learn this life saving skill.)

But the smart gun is no solution to anything except maybe the company who gets 
to cash in on the hype. The thing about guns in America is that the ship 
already sailed. We have guns out the wazoo and there will be no retrofitting 
all of them with anything. If we never made or imported another gun we would 
still have a gun problem. I put that in quotes because since I saw Bowling 
for Columbine by Michael Moore and found out how many guns the relatively 
pacifist Canadians have. I now see the issue as a people problem.

So smart gun tech will not solve our problem with people shooting each other, 
and if you have kids and own a gun, and the gun is not in a safe, (a real one 
that costs enough to actually work) and your kids shoots someone, you need to 
go to jail dad or mom.

I live in a high crime area. I do not have a carry permit but I own a gun. I 
like the idea that if someone breaks in I have a chance to defend my life. I 
also know that this is the most long shot (funny choice of words) threat to my 
life as I careen around the beltway of DC where people die every day. But even 
so the fact is that where I live this does happen and as a guy who walks in and 
out of his door every day with thousands of dollars of musical gear many times 
a week, I do actually have a bit of a target on my door. And if I should ever 
have to use deadly force to defend myself against people desperate enough to 
come into my crib with evil intent, I am not trusting the same guys who make it 
impossible for me to put anyone on hold on my phone, or who turn my computer 
into a brick every time I play a freak'n Youtube video to make sure my gun 
works without a quick reboot to reset whatever 

[FairfieldLife] Note to Rick, Conderning his interview with Sam Harris

2014-05-09 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Dear Rick,  What does Sam Harris feel about the Vedic reverberations of 
Sanskrit? And the ontology of the Unified Field transcendent experience in the 
physiology? Does he have any experience with this that could allow him to speak 
with any authority around spiritual experience? 
 Rick, I just finished the Harry Aalto batgap.com interview. That was good 
criticism based on experience too. He has an amazing base voice but his 
perspective by experience was piercing. Janet Sussman who lived in Fairfield 
for years held weekly living living- room satsangs too with folks where her 
consult was very much like the way Harri Aalto languages it by virtue of 
evolving and long experience. Fun to hear it so clearly talked about and 
advocated for in the same way so directly by two different people in two very 
different packages. Same thing. In the Unified Field Your friend always, -Buck 
 
 fleetwood_macncheese Writes:
 Yeah, I agree with the bit about spiritual experiences being something that a 
person gets used to, no matter how flashy they may be, initially. Humans are 
great at assimilating any kind of experience. I find too, that whenever I tried 
to hold on to any spiritual experience, it went away. Once unbounded awareness 
is established (while it continues to expand), there is no obstacle to any kind 
of flashy experience; hang out with angels? why not? visit the inside of the 
body? OK. and after awhile, its like if a person works at Disneyland and can 
ride the rides, all they want, any time they want. 
 There are two sides to life, anyway - the spiritual momentum, and character 
development, aka 'doing the work'. Much more concerned, and interested, in the 
latter, these days. So, it doesn't matter to me what a person's beliefs are, as 
much as what kind of a person they are. Beliefs don't count for much. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 
 





Thanks for your comments. One of the things that amuses me in this discussion 
is that two of the participants so far who are on record as having no need to 
believe in a God are also on record as having had enlightenment experiences. 
Whereas possibly some of those who think of themselves as believers in God have 
not. 
 

 Such an assumption that really serves no useful purpose other than, well, you 
know..

Clearly belief in God has nothing to do with awakening or being able to have 
clear, according-to-Maharishi's-definitions periods of enlightenment. 
 

 It might be helpful to know who you are arguing with on this point.  

My larger point is that I think that having a belief in God has nothing to do 
with *anything* other than having Just Another Belief. Such a belief is not 
necessary to follow a spiritual path, and not having such a belief is no 
hindrance to one.   
 

 You do realize that you make this point on a nearly daily basis as though 
there is someone on the other side of this argument.
 

 I mean, I get the impression that people who have so called spiritual 
experiences may just make a note of them, and then move on.  Now, I suppose 
there are many who benchmark these experiences, but really, it's not anything I 
much see here.  So, maybe your comments are directed to a different audience.
 

 Even Jim, who is not bashful about declaring his enlightenment uses his own 
descriptions.  I mean maybe they do end up corresponding somewhat to the 
experiences you read about in texts, and that MMY has outlined, but growth of 
spiritual experiences, if they are genuine, come off as being quite fresh, and 
usually quite confusing, at least at first.
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