[FairfieldLife] US Bombs Own Vehicles and Weapons
This is such an absurd turn of events. Why did the Iraqi army give up so easily against ISIS? IMO, the Iraqi army was infiltrated with sympathizers of ISIS. The officers of the army were probably paid off by ISIS to run away with their subordinates and leave the American vehicles and equipment to the militants. It appears that the Iraqi army does not want to fight and are willing to be subjugated by the militants. In the end, they are willing to let the Christians and other minorities to be killed as sacrifices to the militant overlords. U.S. Airstrikes Destroy Millions Of Dollars In U.S.-Made Arms In Iraq http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/26/us-military-weapons-iraq_n_5718099.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0592 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/26/us-military-weapons-iraq_n_5718099.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0592 U.S. Airstrikes Destroy Millions Of Dollars In U.S http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/26/us-military-weapons-iraq_n_5718099.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0592 By Missy Ryan WASHINGTON, Aug 26 (Reuters) - The grainy black-and-white footage shows a military vehicle, a small dark mass in the crosshairs of a U.S. w... View on www.huffingtonpos... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/26/us-military-weapons-iraq_n_5718099.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0592 Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: US Bombs Own Vehicles and Weapons
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : This is such an absurd turn of events. Why did the Iraqi army give up so easily against ISIS? IMO, the Iraqi army was infiltrated with sympathizers of ISIS. The officers of the army were probably paid off by ISIS to run away with their subordinates and leave the American vehicles and equipment to the militants. Maybe they were just scared? Maybe the US should put self-destruct devices in their next bunch of free gifts to the middle east.. It appears that the Iraqi army does not want to fight and are willing to be subjugated by the militants. In the end, they are willing to let the Christians and other minorities to be killed as sacrifices to the militant overlords. U.S. Airstrikes Destroy Millions Of Dollars In U.S.-Made Arms In Iraq http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/26/us-military-weapons-iraq_n_5718099.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0592 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/26/us-military-weapons-iraq_n_5718099.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0592 U.S. Airstrikes Destroy Millions Of Dollars In U.S http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/26/us-military-weapons-iraq_n_5718099.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0592 By Missy Ryan WASHINGTON, Aug 26 (Reuters) - The grainy black-and-white footage shows a military vehicle, a small dark mass in the crosshairs of a U.S. w... View on www.huffingtonpos... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/26/us-military-weapons-iraq_n_5718099.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0592 Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts
...no circumstances, however dismal, will ever be considered a sufficient excuse for the admission of that last and saddest evidence of intellectual poverty, the Pun. - Mark Twain ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : Evidence has been found that William Tell and his family were avid bowlers. Unfortunately, all the Swiss league records were destroyed in a fire, and so we'll never know for whom the Tells bowled.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Back By Popular Demand
Nice, good singer ! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : http://youtu.be/a7a35GnfPTc http://youtu.be/a7a35GnfPTc
Re: [FairfieldLife] Where We Went and Why We Went There [1 Attachment]
Wow! Another beautiful body of water near Austin! Thanks, Richard On Tuesday, August 26, 2014 9:48 PM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: [Attachment(s) from Richard J. Williams included below] On 8/26/2014 7:10 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Richard, this is one of my favorite places in the whole wide world... When we lived in Austin we used to go to Barton Springs Pool every weekend - it was only a few blocks away from where we lived. The water is very cold from a natural spring but it's great to dive in when the temperature outside is 100 degrees. Hamilton's Pool: A beautiful swimming hole nestled in the Hill Country, Hamilton Pool lies about 20 miles west of Austin off Highway 71 just past Radiance, the TM Ideal Village. This natural swimming pool, formed by a collapsed grotto is supplied by a 60-foot waterfall. The rock formation serves as a unique backdrop to the cool, blue-green water, which flows down a magical tree-lined creek, to the Perdenales River. Hamilton's Pool, Hays County On Tuesday, August 26, 2014 5:22 PM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: We went to this place so we could swim in a swimming pool. Barton Springs Pool, Austin
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8/1213/14-Maharishi: As we take care of ourself, the world will take of itself for us on that level
Yes, MJ as usual is forcing wild conclusions just to defame TM from premises that don't hold water. I spoke with the County medical examiner here yesterday. There are not spikes in suicides. Nothing demographically significant. People of all demographics die all the time for a whole range of reasons across the whole spectrum. In 20 years of experience there is nothing to see out of the ordinary with the range of suicide. Life and death are an ongoing thing. There simply is not a particular spike within the meditating community. Suicide happens too. It is a disease that people may not recover from. That does not say that there might not be some cultural elements within TM that are significant to mental health one way or another. That is being looked at in a whole range of elements. But to say TM particularly causes suicide is a wild assertion. MJ should stop that or be brought before a defamation lawsuit. It is getting time to cross him and some others up for what they are trying to do otherwise. The larger data shows that all kinds of people start meditating including depressed people who may be predisposed to commit suicide. The communal and compassionate thing to do is to look out for the larger symptoms that lead to suicide. That is actively being worked on locally. If someone commits suicide who meditates is it really because they meditate as MJ is trying real hard to assert? No. Lot of people just wanting to learn TM just by-pass the questions on the initial TM interview form about mental health relative to consultation or therapy for mental health. If they answered truthfully that would send them to consult with their mental health practitioner before learning TM, which would delay their beginning.. .. ie about that in the same way some people will lie about the 15-day requirement for taking recreational drugs prior to beginning meditation. While a truth is that young people taking marijuana in to their young developing physiology [brains] at tender early age are more prone to psychological breaks later in life. Even suicide. If they subsequently learn to meditate and they oft themselves later?No, MJ is simply trying real hard to defame TM with hanging this suicide thing on TM. It is pretty obvious he is waging a personal media campaign against TM more than he is interested in working the larger issue of compassion where the rubber meets the road around the larger issues of mental health, depression and suicide. He is just here to create trouble otherwise, -Buck in the Dome LEnglish5 As I pointed out and you have comveniantly forgot: a single Yoga retreat center has about 1 suicide every two years, and about 1-2% per year are mentally incapacitated for up to a month after the retreat, in a center that has accommodations for 96 people, including staff. With 40,000 TM teachers who went through training, the above stats would translate into 200 suicides while on TTC and up to 800 people who were incapacitated. Are you REALLY claiming this? L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I would have to say that you began your reading of my points with your own bias, which was to invalidate everything I said. TM doesn't quiet the mind - we do that as we release the normal link we have to constantly thinking thoughts - the mantra is a convenience. What we experience is not exactly mood making, but some of it is. Bottom line, the negative effects associated with TM are not seen in other meditations. Why some are affected and others not, I don't know. But the unstressing deal which is NOT good is very real and the basket cases and suicides and attempted suicides are a testament to that. If someone were to ask me about meditation I would direct them just about anywhere other than TM. As far as you asking me about this, I would have to say if you reaaal think TM is so groovy, you would be teaching it because it is so valuable to others and you would be doing TMSP. So how about coming clean and telling us why you don't do TMSP and why you don't teach? It has to be more than just you need a job that pays. I have known TM teachers who work full time and teach on the side because they believe in TM so much. Do you contribute to the yagya programs and any of the other causes the Movement asks for money for all the time? Just how committed to TM are you? From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 12:30 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8/1213/14-Maharishi: As we take care of ourself, the world will take of itself for us on that level ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : This does bring up a lot of things. In all honesty I agreed with and bought into all of Marshy's blabber. But I don't any longer. One
[FairfieldLife] Some Common Sense about Guns, Please?
Well, whadda think Ann? http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-28948946 US girl, nine, kills gun instructor A nine-year-old girl kills her shooting instructor by accident while being shown how to use an Uzi submachine gun at a firing range in Arizona. View on www.bbc.com Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Where We Went and Why We Went There
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Wow! Another beautiful body of water near Austin! Thanks, Richard Add to that, Austen has The Best Dance Clubs! wish they stayed open later On Tuesday, August 26, 2014 9:48 PM, 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: [Attachment(s) https://us-mg5.mail.yahoo.com/neo/launch#TopText from Richard J. Williams included below] On 8/26/2014 7:10 PM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Richard, this is one of my favorite places in the whole wide world... When we lived in Austin we used to go to Barton Springs Pool every weekend - it was only a few blocks away from where we lived. The water is very cold from a natural spring but it's great to dive in when the temperature outside is 100 degrees. Hamilton's Pool: A beautiful swimming hole nestled in the Hill Country, Hamilton Pool lies about 20 miles west of Austin off Highway 71 just past Radiance, the TM Ideal Village. This natural swimming pool, formed by a collapsed grotto is supplied by a 60-foot waterfall. The rock formation serves as a unique backdrop to the cool, blue-green water, which flows down a magical tree-lined creek, to the Perdenales River. Hamilton's Pool, Hays County On Tuesday, August 26, 2014 5:22 PM, 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... mailto:punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: We went to this place so we could swim in a swimming pool. Barton Springs Pool, Austin
[FairfieldLife] Re: Some Common Sense about Guns, Please?
I'm sorry the guy got shot, but the aspect of this story that really punches me in the gut is what that little girl is going through and what she'll carry with her for the rest of her life. I took riflery at summer camp, and I'm not at all opposed to supervised firearms instruction for kids, but not with a fucking full auto Uzi. It's just plain common sense that kids learn to shoot with a .22 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackso...@yahoo.com wrote : Well, whadda think Ann? http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-28948946 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-28948946 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-28948946 US girl, nine, kills gun instructor http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-28948946 A nine-year-old girl kills her shooting instructor by accident while being shown how to use an Uzi submachine gun at a firing range in Arizona. View on www.bbc.com Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Wed 27-Aug-14 00:15:08 UTC
wow wee! When's the Star Annointing Ceremony? I'm booked in the Hamtone's next week, but some time soon. I'll bring friends...and family...and well wishers...and used-to-be-friends-but-not-so-much-anymore...and used-to-be-family-but-not-so-much-anymore...and... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ffl.postcount@... wrote : Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 08/23/14 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 08/30/14 00:00:00 684 messages as of (UTC) 08/27/14 00:10:53 164 danfriedman2002 94 Michael Jackson mjackson74 94 'Richard J. Williams' punditster 51 salyavin808 49 steve.sundur 42 Share Long sharelong60 31 Bhairitu noozguru 25 awoelflebater 17 nablusoss1008 15 jr_esq 14 fleetwood_macncheese 13 dhamiltony2k5 11 Mike Dixon mdixon.6569 10 s3raphita 10 j_alexander_stanley 8 TurquoiseBee turquoiseb 8 LEnglish5 5 jedi_spock 5 anartaxius 5 Duveyoung 4 cardemaister 3 srijau 2 Dick Mays dickmays 1 noozguru 1 emptybill 1 email4you mikemail4you 1 Toby Walker tobywaka Posters: 27 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Desire, was What Gullible Fools We Were
Dear Share, Right on the money! I just reread this section of SBAL and had a great time looking over the sentences that I had highlighted all those years ago. Today I would highlight others. Perhaps you might do an updated Concordance for me. You seem to know my interests. Also, I have begun my Commentary of the BG. One of the 128 remaining to do. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Dan, for more on this, see SBeing, ArtL pg 238 On Tuesday, August 26, 2014 6:32 PM, danfriedman2002 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Rich and richer, Your are right (and Rich again). This one's for Share, because I never, ever think I disagree with what is Right: Material possessions don't bind us. What they do is liberate us from the pangs of unfulfilled desires. Our desire is to get this and this and this, and then if we don't get, we feel miserable. Whatever we have, that is a solace to us in that misery. Material possessions are not a means of bondage. If anything they are a source of solace in our weakness. They do not bind us. If anything, they are a source of solace, contentment, happiness, joy, peace. Possessions will always be a means of joyfulness. It is the non-possessions that bind us in the craving to get them. Do you see the point? It is something that we don't possess, that non-possession binds us in the craving to possess it. Possessions are not a bondage. They are a means of joy, happiness. What is bondage? Lack of awareness of the Unbounded. That means: ignorance, ignorance of our unbounded nature, ignorance that the Self within is unbounded, eternal, infinite, absolute, bliss. Lack of knowledge about this is ignorance, and this ignorance is a bondage to us. Material possessions are never a bondage. They are a means of happiness. - Maharishi ~Growth of Consciousness ~Humboldt State University, USA~ August 1970~ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 8/26/2014 5:37 PM, danfriedman2002 wrote: Dearest Share and Richard, Desire is good. Desire for Enlightenment. No regrets, hear? Dan, you are a fast reader - better to let this one sink in slowly: Because the desire to prevent desiring more than will be attained is itself unconsciously desired too much. For whenever one desires to stop 'desiring more than will be attained', this additional, deeper desire also becomes a desire for more stopping than will be attained. Thus this additional, deeper desire requires its own additional, still deeper desire to stop desiring more stopping than will be attained. You are only going to get as much enlightenment as you are going to get. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : On 8/26/2014 9:38 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Thanks, Richard, cool info. I once heard from a friend that we can fulfill those less than wonderful desires in dream state. And that counts too but doesn't, I guess, accrue any negative karma. It is obviously counter-productive to desire to be enlightened more than one is going to be enlightened. Desiring more than one is going to get leads to frustration, lamentation, and grief. It is impossible to to stop desiring, and at a more subtle level, it is fruitless to want to stop desiring more than one is going to stop desiring, relative to wanting to stop wanting. According to Professor A.J. Bahm, these practical difficulties do not invalidate the principle of wanting to attain a state of desirelessness, they merely indicate desire's universality, the subtlety with which it operates, the reason why it is commonly misunderstood, and the need for a special meditation to bring it into manageable operation. Base desire also works subtly, not merely because desires are emotively imprecise, but especially because the desire to prevent desiring more than will be attained is itself unconsciously desired too much. For whenever one desires to stop 'desiring more than will be attained', this additional, deeper desire also becomes a desire for more stopping than will be attained. Thus this additional, deeper desire requires its own additional, still deeper desire to stop desiring more stopping than will be attained. You are not going to get any more enlightenment than you are going to get. When you realize this, you will be free and there won't be any more stress. Any time there is stress there is wanting - even if it is wanting less stress. The answer to this riddle is actually very simple when you think about it. According to Bahm, He who finally gives up trying to solve the problem of frustration, thereby becoming willing to accept his desires and frustrations for what they are, finds the problem solved. On Monday, August 25, 2014 9:16 PM, 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8/1213/14-Maharishi: As we take care of ourself, the world will take of itself for us on that level
Supporting your data, you can add that many people come to TM with personal problems, thus increasing the probability of further difficulties. The Constant Complainer included. Explains a lot. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : As I pointed out and you ave comveniently forgot, a single Yoga retreat center has about 1 suicide every two years, and about 1-2% per year are mentally incapacitated for up to a month after the retreat, in a center that has accommodations for 96 people, including staff. With 40,000 TM teachers who went through training, the above stats would translate into 200 suicides while on TTC and up to 800 people who were incapacitated. Are you REALLY claiming this? L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I would have to say that you began your reading of my points with your own bias, which was to invalidate everything I said. TM doesn't quiet the mind - we do that as we release the normal link we have to constantly thinking thoughts - the mantra is a convenience. What we experience is not exactly mood making, but some of it is. Bottom line, the negative effects associated with TM are not seen in other meditations. Why some are affected and others not, I don't know. But the unstressing deal which is NOT good is very real and the basket cases and suicides and attempted suicides are a testament to that. If someone were to ask me about meditation I would direct them just about anywhere other than TM. As far as you asking me about this, I would have to say if you reaaal think TM is so groovy, you would be teaching it because it is so valuable to others and you would be doing TMSP. So how about coming clean and telling us why you don't do TMSP and why you don't teach? It has to be more than just you need a job that pays. I have known TM teachers who work full time and teach on the side because they believe in TM so much. Do you contribute to the yagya programs and any of the other causes the Movement asks for money for all the time? Just how committed to TM are you? From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 12:30 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8/1213/14-Maharishi: As we take care of ourself, the world will take of itself for us on that level ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : This does bring up a lot of things. In all honesty I agreed with and bought into all of Marshy's blabber. But I don't any longer. One of the things I disagree with is the idea that the mind's natural tendency is to go to greater fields of charm. Life experience shows that in fact the human mind does just the opposite. The TM belief is that the human tendency to go toward greater fields of stress, pain, agony, suffering and so forth is an aberration. Prove it. Human experience suggests otherwise. Take a bunch of people, put them in a nice place like Yosemite, or the Snake River in Wyoming. Then let loose a bear on one side of the group. Or let three guys start to argue and fight. What will the entire group focus on. The beauty all around them? Or the stress? Michael, there is one precondition we have to agree on, and I don't think it is major. That is, that in the earthly experience, there is both good and bad. Forget about karma, just that people will sometimes act in way that is generally considered bad. But inspite of this people will still act always act in a way that they feel will bring them greater happiness, greater knowledge, greater power. The results will not always be positive, but that is how people will act. If someone likes hamburgers and not pizza, then they are not going to go to restaurant that serves pizza. People will select a movie based on what they think will bring them greater enjoyment. It is very basic, but maybe you disagree with it. There are a million examples one can think of. I realize it is not a popular notion. People would rather believe that humans are really very noble creatures who have just temporarily lost their way. Human history suggests otherwise. That being said, I doubt that the so-called transcendent contains the ultimate field of charm for the human mind. As so many spiritual aspirants can attest, one can have these charming experiences sometimes for years and the good old human mind drifts away again in favor of something a bit less picturesque. Now of course we have stories about people (generally men) who got in that exalted state and remained there for the rest of their lives on earth. But that doesn't mean we have a field of ultimate charm the mind is aching to always go towards. If that were the case once we reach that field one should naturally stay there forever. The experiences of meditators show that obviously is not true. We go to what
Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Wed 27-Aug-14 00:15:08 UTC
Jealous of the Arts? Artists get laid more.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TMO Disease: Hypochondria
I took the Pulse Diagnosis Coure from MUM online. Boring. But, perhaps you are right, my mind might have been a little jumpy. There are worse things to have. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I'm not hearing anyone talk much about pulse diagnosis these days. That was Dr. Triguna's thing. I recall getting a pulse diagnosis from him in India. I thought he called it pretty well. He said my mind was a little jumpy, or something along those lines. I would think pulse diagnosis could be tested scientifically. Say someone had a liver problem. That should be evident in a pulse diagnosis. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : For the record a lot of alternative medicine is very science based. Only the peanut gallery seems to think it isn't. There's a lot of university research out there that hasn't yet been implemented by the conservative mainstream science based medicine. But they're beginning to catch on and learning that the centuries old concepts of the metabolic causes of medicine that East Indians and Chinese use have some validity. Just like one size shoe won't fit us all neither does just one medical approach to a problem. On 08/26/2014 04:29 AM, anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: The term allopathic, which is often used in a derogatory sense, was invented by Hahnemann, the creator of homoeopathy. So it is basically a quacks take on regular medicine, although at the time the term came into use, regular medicine was still pretty primitive, and probably not very effective. Today the term 'evidence-based medicine' is used, or 'science-based medicine'. Here is an interesting site that deals with various conflicts found between alternative therapies (which I usually call the alternative to medicine) and modern medical practice. Science-Based Medicine Science-Based Medicine Science-Based Medicine: Exploring issues and controversies in the relationship between science and medicine View on www.sciencebasedm... Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote : I've been staying out of the Alternative Therapies free-for-all for a number of reasons. First, it's been done to death here before, so the whole faux outrage thing has a decidedly been there, done that, don't need to do it again vibe to it. Second, possibly because I bailed from the TMO early, I never got infected with that uber-hypochondria that so many long-term TMers exhibit. I never got into fad diets or mega-supplements or any of that stuff, and have managed to remain remarkably healthy *anyway*, never having to go there and put any attention on my health. I've been lucky enough to be healthy and stay healthy...what was there to focus on or obsess on? Third, I currently write articles for all sorts of people in the health care industry. A few of them probably work for Big Pharma, but most are just everyday practitioners of allopathic medicine or chiropractic or some alternative practice or some mainstream specialty like cardiovascular medicine. And to a person I don't think any of them would disagree with the comments one of them put on the T-shirt below (some MDs might get a bit of a hitch in their panties over the mention of chiropractic, but that's about it). Most of them would LOVE it if their patients would just pay more attention to their diets and to getting enough exercise. But they don't. They want a quick cure. And they want it whether it comes from a Big Pharma pill or a homeopathic sugar pill or a Chinese tonic or an Ayurvedic potion. Health care providers -- whoever they are -- get pushed into the savior role because people go to them demanding the quick cure and shouting Cure me, cure me! They're not willing to do the work every day that keeps them healthy in the first place, so they expect someone else to do it for them.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What Gullible Fools We Were
I'll take 2 from Point #1 and 1 from Point #2 (old reference to Chinese restaurant menus, back-in-the days, and nights, weekends included. Dearest s3raphita (I just love how that sounds, running of my lips like wine, and women, and... Can you please explain how I can insert text as comments to your textual comments? Looks like fun! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Re You are not going to get any more enlightenment than you are going to get. That's necessarily true by definition but isn't it a little vacuous? Re When you realize this, you will be free and there won't be any more stress.: Hmm. But isn't there a difference between 1) saying to yourself that nothing I do is going to make a blind bit of difference and carrying on as everyone else does (wine, women and song, or whatever else floats your boat), and 2) following a spiritual path - meditation, say - which only makes sense if you think the practice chosen will make *some* difference, however little, to your life? And re Dan's (following MMY): Material possessions are not a means of bondage. : SO, HAVING A PRISON CELL, WITH FEW POSSESSIONS may be the way to go? Watch 'Orange is the New Black' and get back to me. (i made this orange, but you made your orange, probably expecting me to write something about orange, right?) They sure are! What we think we own actually owns us. All the (pitifully few) possessions I have surrounding me right now are also what help define me as a person (my learned role play in this life). We all need certain basic essentials - and yes, what we regard as basic has expanded over the centuries - but beyond that point accumulating possessions is like decorating your prison cell. It makes you feel more at home (and so apathetic) but the point is to break down the prison walls and escape! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 8/26/2014 9:38 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Thanks, Richard, cool info. I once heard from a friend that we can fulfill those less than wonderful desires in dream state. And that counts too but doesn't, I guess, accrue any negative karma. It is obviously counter-productive to desire to be enlightened more than one is going to be enlightened. Desiring more than one is going to get leads to frustration, lamentation, and grief. It is impossible to to stop desiring, and at a more subtle level, it is fruitless to want to stop desiring more than one is going to stop desiring, relative to wanting to stop wanting. According to Professor A.J. Bahm, these practical difficulties do not invalidate the principle of wanting to attain a state of desirelessness, they merely indicate desire's universality, the subtlety with which it operates, the reason why it is commonly misunderstood, and the need for a special meditation to bring it into manageable operation. Base desire also works subtly, not merely because desires are emotively imprecise, but especially because the desire to prevent desiring more than will be attained is itself unconsciously desired too much. For whenever one desires to stop 'desiring more than will be attained', this additional, deeper desire also becomes a desire for more stopping than will be attained. Thus this additional, deeper desire requires its own additional, still deeper desire to stop desiring more stopping than will be attained. You are not going to get any more enlightenment than you are going to get. When you realize this, you will be free and there won't be any more stress. Any time there is stress there is wanting - even if it is wanting less stress. The answer to this riddle is actually very simple when you think about it. According to Bahm, He who finally gives up trying to solve the problem of frustration, thereby becoming willing to accept his desires and frustrations for what they are, finds the problem solved. On Monday, August 25, 2014 9:16 PM, 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... mailto:punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: On 8/25/2014 8:59 PM, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Re I have never met a single TM'er who could honestly say they had fulfilled all desires: And yet, . . ., and yet . . . Isn't it the case that *when you are meditating* you often enter a state in which your quotidian desires no longer impinge on your consciousness and you are happy to remain just where you are. True, one could say the same thing about being asleep, but Indian philosophers have often taken the deep sleep state as a paradigm for enlightenment. No desires = fulfillment of desires. In Tibetan Dream Yoga, maintaining full consciousness while in the dream state is part of Dzogchen training. This training is described by Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche as 'Rigpa
[FairfieldLife] Word to Buck about TM Suicides - Was Maharishi: As we take care of ourself, the world will take of itself for us on that level
Omm - in a normal population, your contention would be accurate. But with the superlatives claimed for TM and TMSP, esp TMSP in groups, TM suicides should never happen. To acknowledge that suicides happen among long term TM practitioners is to to tacitly acknowledge the PR with which TM and TMSP is sold to the public is in fact dishonest. I would very much love it if the practice of TM had no side effects, and would love it even more if the end results and benefits for TM and TMSP were in fact what was claimed for it. We would be living in a much better happier world if that were the case. My contention is that the TMO needs to own up to the truth about what can happen amongst TM'ers or at least stop touting TM as a cure all for all the worlds ills which is what they essentially do. It is dishonest or perhaps an avoidance behavior to not acknowledge the things that can happen. Anyone who spent any time working at any TM facility all have stories of those who had to leave in the middle of the night or were sent home by the TMO for their strange behavior, plus the attempted and successful suicides. If you are really as hopeful and concerned about the well being of TM'ers as I think you are, it would be a fine first step to begin to acknowledge the down side to TM and long term TMSP. That's all I'm saying. The culture of ignoring the incidents or worse blaming the victims, those who killed themselves or tried to is one of the things that is stifling the Movement itself. What I am suggesting is that current and former TM'ers all join together to be open and honest about these things and extend our hands to those who are suffering from mental/emotional states that may lead to suicide or have led to suicide attempts in the past. The TMO status quo to counsel getting the meditation and sutra practice checked or to have a yagya done just isn't cutting it. An until it becomes ok in TM communities like Fairfield for people to openly acknowledge that are NOT feeling good, they are not in bliss that they have problems suicides and fracturing of the Movement will continue. You know very well that in places like MIU or Vedic Villages if people voice their problems they are looked down on or looked askance at, as if they are off the program, which is about all the TMO is willing to admit might be a problem. And they are not offered the help they need. While it is true that suicides affect all races, religions, etc suicides among TM practitioners must be handled with greater care, and those who are at risk for such behavior need more help perhaps than those in non-TM populations just because of the stigma attached to not being in a place within yourself and acknowledging that place to the world that all is bliss and your life is wonderful because of TM. This is a legacy of Maharishi and one the Movement has a financial interest in maintaining. Even when I was a self styled TM fanatic, one of the things I didn't like about the Movement was its habit of redirecting everyone's attention to TM. No one in the TM community could do ANYTHING without it being an example of TM's bright shiny nature. And yet if someone did something like pull an Ed Beckley, it had nothing to do with TM. This is simply a dishonest point of view and one which does not serve the TM community, nor the larger non TM community with which you interact. The statistics may show Fairfield no different in terms of suicides but statistics have never been compiled for an exclusively TM population. Regardless of what it would show, with the focus TM communities should have on perfection or at least everyone living a good life, one TM suicide is too many. And while that may not be a realistic goal, I hope you know that the kinds of attitude shift that would open things up for real dialogue, real conversations and real actions that are not (and I do not mean to be unkind in saying this) that are not tied to glorifying the Movement and putting money in their pockets. Dead or alive I don't care about Maharishi. I do care about the people who are doing TM and suffering so much their daily visits to the Dome do nothing to decrease that desire to kill themselves. It is one thing for those of us who have left the Movement to call for change, but until you good folks who diligently go to the Domes each day to work for world peace join with your former TM brothers and sisters to call for the pervading atmosphere in the Movement to change regarding TM suicides, the problem will continue. Ultimately only those of you who support the Movement with your time, effort, energy, activity and money can effect the needed changes. But those of us who left the Movement are willing to help for the good of TM'ers and non-TM'ers alike. Cause let's face it, we are all in this world together. From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What Gullible Fools We Were
On 8/27/2014 7:57 AM, danfriedman2002 wrote: I'll take 2 from Point #1 and 1 from Point #2 (old reference to Chinese restaurant menus, back-in-the days, and nights, weekends included. Dearest s3raphita (I just love how that sounds, running of my lips like wine, and women, and... Can you please explain how I can insert text as comments to your textual comments? Looks like fun! It probably depends on what software you are using as a news reader. You may be able to insert text as comments by hitting the REPLY button, and in the text box, placing your cursor at the end of the comment and hitting the ENTER key. Then key in your reply. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Re You are not going to get any more enlightenment than you are going to get. That's necessarily true by definition but isn't it a little vacuous? Re When you realize this, you will be free and there won't be any more stress.: Hmm. But isn't there a difference between 1) saying to yourself that nothing I do is going to make a blind bit of difference and carrying on as everyone else does (wine, women and song, or whatever else floats your boat), and 2) following a spiritual path - meditation, say - which only makes sense if you think the practice chosen will make *some* difference, however little, to your life? And re Dan's (following MMY): Material possessions are not a means of bondage. : SO, HAVING A PRISON CELL, WITH FEW POSSESSIONS may be the way to go? Watch 'Orange is the New Black' and get back to me. (i made this orange, but you made your orange, probably expecting me to write something about orange, right?) They sure are! What we think we own actually owns us. All the (pitifully few) possessions I have surrounding me right now are also what help define me as a person (my learned role play in this life). We all need certain basic essentials - and yes, what we regard as basic has expanded over the centuries - but beyond that point accumulating possessions is like decorating your prison cell. It makes you feel more at home (and so apathetic) but the point is to break down the prison walls and escape! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 8/26/2014 9:38 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Thanks, Richard, cool info. I once heard from a friend that we can fulfill those less than wonderful desires in dream state. And that counts too but doesn't, I guess, accrue any negative karma. It is obviously counter-productive to desire to be enlightened more than one is going to be enlightened. Desiring more than one is going to get leads to frustration, lamentation, and grief. It is impossible to to stop desiring, and at a more subtle level, it is fruitless to want to stop desiring more than one is going to stop desiring, relative to wanting to stop wanting. According to Professor A.J. Bahm, these practical difficulties do not invalidate the principle of wanting to attain a state of desirelessness, they merely indicate desire's universality, the subtlety with which it operates, the reason why it is commonly misunderstood, and the need for a special meditation to bring it into manageable operation. Base desire also works subtly, not merely because desires are emotively imprecise, but especially because the desire to prevent desiring more than will be attained is itself unconsciously desired too much. For whenever one desires to stop 'desiring more than will be attained', this additional, deeper desire also becomes a desire for more stopping than will be attained. Thus this additional, deeper desire requires its own additional, still deeper desire to stop desiring more stopping than will be attained. You are not going to get any more enlightenment than you are going to get. When you realize this, you will be free and there won't be any more stress. Any time there is stress there is wanting - even if it is wanting less stress. The answer to this riddle is actually very simple when you think about it. According to Bahm, /He who finally gives up trying to solve the problem of frustration, thereby becoming willing to accept his desires and frustrations for what they are, finds the problem solved./ On Monday, August 25, 2014 9:16 PM, 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... mailto:punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: On 8/25/2014 8:59 PM, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: ReI have never met a single TM'er who could honestly say they had fulfilled all desires: And yet, . . ., and yet . . . Isn't it the case that *when you are meditating* you often enter a state in which your quotidian desires no longer impinge on your
Re: [FairfieldLife] So What Do You do?
Yes, f the observer is still vibrational, the observed is known only as a solid object and appears to be essentially different from other forms of matter. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 8/26/2014 6:54 PM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Michael, that bliss is an isness. It is not a thereness as in, you are already there. Everything is useless and nothing is useless. You are that bliss, mantra is that bliss. Bliss alone is. Even the questions are bliss. In fact they make the bubbles of bliss rise up into laughter. In my experience... It is obvious that different people may not see the same object as it is, but may perceive different objects when confronted by the same stimulus source. We fail to take into account the constructed character of knowing. The term constructed character of knowing may be used to name the synthesizing process that goes on in the brain before experiences are produced. The various nervous impulses do not appear in consciousness to be knowingly assembled or constructed into an object. On Tuesday, August 26, 2014 6:48 PM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: So what do you do when you decide to meditate and suddenly the bliss becomes all there is. I mean the kind of bliss where you know that you are that, and that's all you are and everybody even your enemies are that too? I mean, what do you do with that? Mantra is useless - there is no place to go, you're already there. I mean what the...?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8/1213/14-Maharishi: As we take care of ourself, the world will take of itself for us on that level
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 8/26/2014 7:42 PM, LEnglish5@... mailto:LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: As I pointed out and you ave comveniently forgot, a single Yoga retreat center has about 1 suicide every two years, and about 1-2% per year are mentally incapacitated for up to a month after the retreat, in a center that has accommodations for 96 people, including staff. With 40,000 TM teachers who went through training, the above stats would translate into 200 suicides while on TTC and up to 800 people who were incapacitated. Are you REALLY claiming this? he hasn't thought this through?? Apparently he hasn't thought this through - he is just shooting from the hip. Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... wrote : I would have to say that you began your reading of my points with your own bias, which was to invalidate everything I said. TM doesn't quiet the mind - we do that as we release the normal link we have to constantly thinking thoughts - the mantra is a convenience. What we experience is not exactly mood making, but some of it is. Bottom line, the negative effects associated with TM are not seen in other meditations. Why some are affected and others not, I don't know. But the unstressing deal which is NOT good is very real and the basket cases and suicides and attempted suicides are a testament to that. If someone were to ask me about meditation I would direct them just about anywhere other than TM. As far as you asking me about this, I would have to say if you reaaal think TM is so groovy, you would be teaching it because it is so valuable to others and you would be doing TMSP. So how about coming clean and telling us why you don't do TMSP and why you don't teach? It has to be more than just you need a job that pays. I have known TM teachers who work full time and teach on the side because they believe in TM so much. Do you contribute to the yagya programs and any of the other causes the Movement asks for money for all the time? Just how committed to TM are you? From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:steve.sundur@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 12:30 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8/1213/14-Maharishi: As we take care of ourself, the world will take of itself for us on that level ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... wrote : This does bring up a lot of things. In all honesty I agreed with and bought into all of Marshy's blabber. But I don't any longer. One of the things I disagree with is the idea that the mind's natural tendency is to go to greater fields of charm. Life experience shows that in fact the human mind does just the opposite. The TM belief is that the human tendency to go toward greater fields of stress, pain, agony, suffering and so forth is an aberration. Prove it. Human experience suggests otherwise. Take a bunch of people, put them in a nice place like Yosemite, or the Snake River in Wyoming. Then let loose a bear on one side of the group. Or let three guys start to argue and fight. What will the entire group focus on. The beauty all around them? Or the stress? Michael, there is one precondition we have to agree on, and I don't think it is major. That is, that in the earthly experience, there is both good and bad. Forget about karma, just that people will sometimes act in way that is generally considered bad. But inspite of this people will still act always act in a way that they feel will bring them greater happiness, greater knowledge, greater power. The results will not always be positive, but that is how people will act. If someone likes hamburgers and not pizza, then they are not going to go to restaurant that serves pizza. People will select a movie based on what they think will bring them greater enjoyment. It is very basic, but maybe you disagree with it. There are a million examples one can think of. I realize it is not a popular notion. People would rather believe that humans are really very noble creatures who have just temporarily lost their way. Human history suggests otherwise. That being said, I doubt that the so-called transcendent contains the ultimate field of charm for the human mind. As so many spiritual aspirants can attest, one can have these charming experiences sometimes for years and the good old human mind drifts away again in favor of something a bit less picturesque. Now of course we have stories about people (generally men) who got in that exalted state and remained there for the rest of their lives on
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TMO Disease: Hypochondria
Rich, You are wealthy because you don't eat too much. Also, since you turned me on to a new TM=related book (Have you read Reflections on the Teachings of Maharishi: A personal Journey by John Hornburg? [sorry, the Italics button is stuck]), I'll explain myself further. This being NYC, there is a Farmer's Market just around the corner from Whole Foods. The word from there is that the Hole Foods produce sucks (technical term used by farmers who know their shit/manure). They show you the difference. Organic apples are not unblemished, organic peaches are not unblemished, organic,,,get it? Thanks for the book recommendation. I may need to pull away from this exciting time on ffl when the postman delivers. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 8/26/2014 6:50 PM, danfriedman2002 wrote: But Rich, Whole Paycheck will kill ya. Better off with Health Nuts (if the name fits, I wear it) or farmstands. But...Whole Paycheck is easy to shoplift. We are not big eaters anymore, so it only costs us a few dollars to buy some vegetables and some grains at the Whole Foods Market. It's not like we have a big family to feed anymore. Sometimes we eat out and that cost more. There is a farmer's market a few blocks away from where we live. We went to this place to eat some raw food: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : Maintaining a healthy diet is one of the most neglected aspects of modern medicine. Just to be on the safe side, we try to eat only organic foods and try to avoid all packaged food. It just makes common sense. Today we went to this place to get some bulk grains and organic vegetables: Whole Foods, San Antonio On 8/26/2014 6:29 AM, anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: The term allopathic, which is often used in a derogatory sense, was invented by Hahnemann, the creator of homoeopathy. So it is basically a quacks take on regular medicine, although at the time the term came into use, regular medicine was still pretty primitive, and probably not very effective. Today the term 'evidence-based medicine' is used, or 'science-based medicine'. Here is an interesting site that deals with various conflicts found between alternative therapies (which I usually call the alternative to medicine) and modern medical practice. Science-Based Medicine Science-Based Medicine Science-Based Medicine: Exploring issues and controversies in the relationship between science and medicine View on www.sciencebasedm... Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote : I've been staying out of the Alternative Therapies free-for-all for a number of reasons. First, it's been done to death here before, so the whole faux outrage thing has a decidedly been there, done that, don't need to do it again vibe to it. Second, possibly because I bailed from the TMO early, I never got infected with that uber-hypochondria that so many long-term TMers exhibit. I never got into fad diets or mega-supplements or any of that stuff, and have managed to remain remarkably healthy *anyway*, never having to go there and put any attention on my health. I've been lucky enough to be healthy and stay healthy...what was there to focus on or obsess on? Third, I currently write articles for all sorts of people in the health care industry. A few of them probably work for Big Pharma, but most are just everyday practitioners of allopathic medicine or chiropractic or some alternative practice or some mainstream specialty like cardiovascular medicine. And to a person I don't think any of them would disagree with the comments one of them put on the T-shirt below (some MDs might get a bit of a hitch in their panties over the mention of chiropractic, but that's about it). Most of them would LOVE it if their patients would just pay more attention to their diets and to getting enough exercise. But they don't. They want a quick cure. And they want it whether it comes from a Big Pharma pill or a homeopathic sugar pill or a Chinese tonic or an Ayurvedic potion. Health care providers -- whoever they are -- get pushed into the savior role because people go to them demanding the quick cure and shouting Cure me, cure me! They're not willing to do the work every day that keeps them healthy in the first place, so they expect someone else to do it for them.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What Gullible Fools We Were
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 8/27/2014 7:57 AM, danfriedman2002 wrote: I'll take 2 from Point #1 and 1 from Point #2 (old reference to Chinese restaurant menus, back-in-the days, and nights, weekends included. Dearest s3raphita (I just love how that sounds, running of my lips like wine, and women, and... Can you please explain how I can insert text as comments to your textual comments? Looks like fun! It probably depends on what software you are using as a news reader. You may be able to insert text as comments by hitting the REPLY button, and in the text box, placing your cursor at the end of the comment and hitting the ENTER key. Then key in your reply. Like here? Rich-in-Many-Ways, Guess what! Today is the day! Shipment Details http://www.amazon.com/gp/r.html?R=336YSIZEJN9FVC=3TG14KBDH777UH=TALCDXDPB4RA6X6B5D0BPVWARRYAT=CU=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fdp%2F0140159746%2Fref%3Dpe_385040_30332190_TE_3p_dp_i1 We Will Always Live in Beverly Hills: Growing Up Crazy in Hollywood http://www.amazon.com/gp/r.html?R=336YSIZEJN9FVC=3TG14KBDH777UH=9QSAONOAQVPNSBFAAIWSWLW5NKUAT=CU=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fdp%2F0140159746%2Fref%3Dpe_385040_30332190_TE_3p_dp_1 Sold by thrift_books Condition: Used - Good http://www.amazon.com/gp/r.html?R=336YSIZEJN9FVC=3TG14KBDH777UH=W0O8TGDOXCDQQVKFV1GAW6LA9IAAT=CU=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%3A80%2Fgp%2Fredirect.html%2Fref%3Dpe_385040_30332190_cm_sw_cl_fa_sce%2F179-0170076-4274135%3F_encoding%3DUTF8%26location%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.facebook.com%252Fdialog%252Ffeed%253Fapp_id%253D164734381262%2526caption%253D%2526display%253Dpopup%2526link%253Dhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.amazon.com%25252Fdp%25252F0140159746%25252Fref%25253Dcm_sw_r_fa_sce%2526name%253D%2526picture%253Dhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fecx.images-amazon.com%25252Fimages%25252FI%25252F41I0ZLECbVL._SCLZZZ__SY115_SX115_.jpg%2526redirect_uri%253Dhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.amazon.com%25252Fdp%25252F0140159746%25252Fref%25253Dcm_sw_r_fa_sce%26source%3Dstandards%26token%3D6BD0FB927CC51E76FF446584B1040F70EA7E88E1 http://www.amazon.com/gp/r.html?R=336YSIZEJN9FVC=3TG14KBDH777UH=AJRZAEEAHREDF6NHKZKEMLNMYZOAT=CU=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%3A80%2Fgp%2Fredirect.html%2Fref%3Dpe_385040_30332190_cm_sw_cl_tw_sce%2F179-0170076-4274135%3F_encoding%3DUTF8%26location%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Ftwitter.com%252Fshare%253Fcount%253Dnone%2526original_referer%253Dhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.amazon.com%25252Fdp%25252F0140159746%25252Fref%25253Dcm_sw_r_tw_sce%2526related%253Damazon%25252Camazondeals%25252Camazonmp3%2526text%253DWe%252520Will%252520Always%252520Live%252520in%252520Beverly%252520Hills%25253A%252520Growing%252520Up%252520Crazy%252520in%252520Hollywood%252520by%252520Amazon%2526twitterURL%253Dhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.amazon.com%25252Fdp%25252F0140159746%25252Fref%25253Dcm_sw_r_tw_sce%2526via%253Damazon%26source%3Dstandards%26token%3D7A1A4AE8F6CE0BD277D8295E58702D283F329C0F http://www.amazon.com/gp/r.html?R=336YSIZEJN9FVC=3TG14KBDH777UH=2XUBMX3ADCESBRLRAWNNAFKO2QCAT=CU=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%3A80%2Fgp%2Fredirect.html%2Fref%3Dpe_385040_30332190_cm_sw_cl_pi_sce%2F179-0170076-4274135%3F_encoding%3DUTF8%26location%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fpinterest.com%252Fpin%252Fcreate%252Fbutton%252F%253Fdescription%253DWe%252520Will%252520Always%252520Live%252520in%252520Beverly%252520Hills%25253A%252520Growing%252520Up%252520Crazy%252520in%252520Hollywood%252520by%252520Amazon%25252C%252520http%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.amazon.com%25252Fdp%25252F0140159746%25252Fref%25253Dcm_sw_r_pi_sce%2526is_video%253Dfalse%2526media%253Dhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fecx.images-amazon.com%25252Fimages%25252FI%25252F41I0ZLECbVL._SCLZZZ__SY115_SX115_.jpg%2526title%253D%2526url%253Dhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.amazon.com%25252Fdp%25252F0140159746%25252Fref%25253Dcm_sw_r_pi_sce%26source%3Dstandards%26token%3D9F58B366258E1A8B5259E9BEF3482E02341F42D3 $2.79 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... wrote : Re You are not going to get any more enlightenment than you are going to get. That's necessarily true by definition but isn't it a little vacuous? Re When you realize this, you will be free and there won't be any more stress.: Hmm. But isn't there a difference between 1) saying to yourself that nothing I do is going to make a blind bit of difference and carrying on as everyone else does (wine, women and song, or whatever else floats your boat), and 2) following a spiritual path - meditation, say - which only makes sense if you think the practice chosen will make *some* difference, however little, to your life? And re Dan's (following MMY): Material possessions are not a means of bondage. : SO, HAVING A PRISON CELL, WITH FEW POSSESSIONS may be the way to go? Watch 'Orange is the New Black' and get back to me. (i made this orange, but you made your orange, probably expecting me
Re: [FairfieldLife] Desire, was What Gullible Fools We Were
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 8/26/2014 7:08 PM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Richard, for me the answer lies in being at peace energetically, in the body. No mood making. No trying to think a certain way, or feel a certain way. Peace in the energy field means that desire does not arise. Or if it does, one is at peace with it. A yearning cannot arise on an abstract basis but only from something already known, but forgotten. Too avid seeking for enlightenment embodies a very subtle greed which must be rooted out by more subtle efforts. But, you must not pursue the uprooting greedily, but by means of a still more subtle way. You need to realize that you are not going to get any more enlightenment than you are going to get. And, while metaphysical pursuits may be interesting to a certain degree, not one single concept is going to help anyone cross over to the other side. According to my philosophy professor, The problem of stopping the striving is sufficiently difficult, complex, and attention-demanding that anyone who pursues it seriously will have little time left over for indulging unhappily in metaphysical pursuits. - A.J. Bahm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A.J._Bahm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archie_J._Bahm On Tuesday, August 26, 2014 5:13 PM, 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... mailto:punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: On 8/26/2014 9:38 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Thanks, Richard, cool info. I once heard from a friend that we can fulfill those less than wonderful desires in dream state. And that counts too but doesn't, I guess, accrue any negative karma. It is obviously counter-productive to desire to be enlightened more than one is going to be enlightened. Desiring more than one is going to get leads to frustration, lamentation, and grief. It is impossible to to stop desiring, and at a more subtle level, it is fruitless to want to stop desiring more than one is going to stop desiring, relative to wanting to stop wanting. According to Professor A.J. Bahm, these practical difficulties do not invalidate the principle of wanting to attain a state of desirelessness, they merely indicate desire's universality, the subtlety with which it operates, the reason why it is commonly misunderstood, and the need for a special meditation to bring it into manageable operation. Base desire also works subtly, not merely because desires are emotively imprecise, but especially because the desire to prevent desiring more than will be attained is itself unconsciously desired too much. For whenever one desires to stop 'desiring more than will be attained', this additional, deeper desire also becomes a desire for more stopping than will be attained. Thus this additional, deeper desire requires its own additional, still deeper desire to stop desiring more stopping than will be attained. You are not going to get any more enlightenment than you are going to get. When you realize this, you will be free and there won't be any more stress. Any time there is stress there is wanting - even if it is wanting less stress. The answer to this riddle is actually very simple when you think about it. According to Bahm, He who finally gives up trying to solve the problem of frustration, thereby becoming willing to accept his desires and frustrations for what they are, finds the problem solved. On Monday, August 25, 2014 9:16 PM, 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... mailto:punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: On8/25/2014 8:59 PM, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Re I have never met a single TM'er who could honestly say they had fulfilled all desires: Andyet, . . ., and yet . . . Isn't it the case that *when you are meditating* you often enter a state in which your quotidian desires no longer impinge on your consciousness and you are happy to remain just where you are. True, one could say the same thing about being asleep, but Indian philosophers have often taken the deep sleep state as a paradigm for enlightenment. No desires = fulfillment of desires. In Tibetan Dream Yoga, maintaining full consciousness while in the dream state is part of Dzogchen training. This training is described by Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche as 'RigpaAwareness'. Lucid dreaming is secondary to the experience of 'Diamond Light'. Rigpa Awareness is very similar to 'witnessing sleep' in TM, which helps the individual understand the unreality of waking consciousness as phenomena. Apparently the EEG patterns are the same in Rigpa Awareness as in TM. Read more: 'Tibetan Yoga Of Dream And Sleep' by Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche Snow Lion, 1998
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts
On 8/27/2014 2:11 AM, azgrey wrote: ...no circumstances, however dismal, will ever be considered a sufficient excuse for the admission of that last and saddest evidence of intellectual poverty, the Pun. - /Mark Twain/ All generalizations are false, including this one. /- Mark Twain/ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : Evidence has been found that William Tell and his family were avid bowlers. Unfortunately, all the Swiss league records were destroyed in a fire, and so we'll never know for whom the Tells bowled.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Some Common Sense about Guns, Please?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Well, whadda think Ann? I think this is just another way in which the world has gone stark ravers. The US is becoming an armed nation where even small children are being taught that holding and shooting a gun is somehow necessary and desirable. I think all of this can only end badly, in all the small ways like we see here were the man teaching her to shoot is inadvertently killed, and in the the large ways where mass shootings and general anger,fear and outrage toward each other will create a sort of war state. My optimism for the future of America under these conditions is small indeed. And it is only going to get much worse. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-28948946 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-28948946 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-28948946 US girl, nine, kills gun instructor http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-28948946 A nine-year-old girl kills her shooting instructor by accident while being shown how to use an Uzi submachine gun at a firing range in Arizona. View on www.bbc.com Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] So What Do You do?
On 8/27/2014 8:16 AM, danfriedman2002 wrote: Yes, f the observer is still vibrational, the observed is known only as a solid object and appears to be essentially different from other forms of matter. According to A.J. Bahm, objects appear in consciousness as wholes, or gestalts. They enter experience already made. Some unconscious or subconscious process determines our conscious experiences for us, even though we can never become aware of it. The mystery of consciousness may never be explained satisfactorily, but it is obvious, to those who reflect, that something happens within us to make us see things the way we do. This something must be taken into account in explaining the nature of knowledge. Perhaps the most startling construction is that of consciousness itself. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 8/26/2014 6:54 PM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Michael, that bliss is an isness. It is not a thereness as in, you are already there. Everything is useless and nothing is useless. You are that bliss, mantra is that bliss. Bliss alone is. Even the questions are bliss. In fact they make the bubbles of bliss rise up into laughter. In my experience... It is obvious that different people may not see the same object as it is, but may perceive different objects when confronted by the same stimulus source. We fail to take into account the /constructed character of knowing/. The term constructed character of knowing may be used to name the synthesizing process that goes on in the brain before experiences are produced. The various nervous impulses do not appear in consciousness to be knowingly assembled or constructed into an object. On Tuesday, August 26, 2014 6:48 PM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: So what do you do when you decide to meditate and suddenly the bliss becomes all there is. I mean the kind of bliss where you know that you are that, and that's all you are and everybody even your enemies are that too? I mean, what do you do with that? Mantra is useless - there is no place to go, you're already there. I mean what the...?
Re: [FairfieldLife] So What Do You do?
I got the Deluxe Browser now. See the brownies below... I do admit though, Hole Foods does have good brownies! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 8/27/2014 8:16 AM, danfriedman2002 wrote: Yes, f the observer is still vibrational, the observed is known only as a solid object and appears to be essentially different from other forms of matter. According to A.J. Bahm, objects appear in consciousness as wholes, or gestalts. They enter experience already made. Some unconscious or subconscious process determines our conscious experiences for us, even though we can never become aware of it. The mystery of consciousness may never be explained satisfactorily,Consciousness is The Simplest Thing. but it is obvious, to those who reflect, that something happens within us to make us see things the way we do. This something must be taken into account in explaining the nature of knowledge. Experience! Perhaps the most startling construction is that of consciousness itself. The intellect is only a part of the mind and thus, blind to wholeness. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : On 8/26/2014 6:54 PM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Michael, that bliss is an isness. It is not a thereness as in, you are already there. Everything is useless and nothing is useless. You are that bliss, mantra is that bliss. Bliss alone is. Even the questions are bliss. In fact they make the bubbles of bliss rise up into laughter. In my experience... It is obvious that different people may not see the same object as it is, but may perceive different objects when confronted by the same stimulus source. We fail to take into account the constructed character of knowing. The term constructed character of knowing may be used to name the synthesizing process that goes on in the brain before experiences are produced. The various nervous impulses do not appear in consciousness to be knowingly assembled or constructed into an object. On Tuesday, August 26, 2014 6:48 PM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: So what do you do when you decide to meditate and suddenly the bliss becomes all there is. I mean the kind of bliss where you know that you are that, and that's all you are and everybody even your enemies are that too? I mean, what do you do with that? Mantra is useless - there is no place to go, you're already there. I mean what the...?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TMO Disease: Hypochondria
On 8/27/2014 8:19 AM, danfriedman2002 wrote: Rich, You are wealthy because you don't eat too much. Also, since you turned me on to a new TM=related book (Have you read Reflections on the Teachings of Maharishi: A personal Journey by John Hornburg? [sorry, the Italics button is stuck]), I'll explain myself further. This being NYC, there is a Farmer's Market just around the corner from Whole Foods. The word from there is that the Hole Foods produce sucks (technical term used by farmers who know their shit/manure). Our local Whole Foods Market gets it's organic produce from the farmers market just around the corner or from a farm nearby. The best produce and most satisfying is the produce you grow in your own back yard. What most people don't realize when they purchase food is the /stress and heat factor/. All processed food is stressed to a certain extent and/or heated. This includes the process and the packaging itself and the transportation from the farm. Produce sometimes comes from as far away as Mexico and California. They show you the difference. Organic apples are not unblemished, organic peaches are not unblemished, organic,,,get it? The ideal would be to procure all or most of your food without using a harvesting device. Since this is close to impossible for most urban dwellers we have to be more flexible and make choices. Locally picked fruit and vegetables harvested by hand in your local area would be the best choice and imported and processed foods last. The best and most satisfying food we ever obtained were apples picked directly from the ground which had fallen the same day from fruit trees grown, but even then we had to drive to the orchard in a wheeled vehicle. Thanks for the book recommendation. I may need to pull away from this exciting time on ffl when the postman delivers. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 8/26/2014 6:50 PM, danfriedman2002 wrote: But Rich, Whole Paycheck will kill ya. Better off with Health Nuts (if the name fits, I wear it) or farmstands. But...Whole Paycheck is easy to shoplift. We are not big eaters anymore, so it only costs us a few dollars to buy some vegetables and some grains at the Whole Foods Market. It's not like we have a big family to feed anymore. Sometimes we eat out and that cost more. There is a farmer's market a few blocks away from where we live. We went to this place to eat some raw food: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : Maintaining a healthy diet is one of the most neglected aspects of modern medicine. Just to be on the safe side, we try to eat only organic foods and try to avoid all packaged food. It just makes common sense. Today we went to this place to get some bulk grains and organic vegetables: /Whole Foods, San Antonio/ On 8/26/2014 6:29 AM, anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: The term allopathic, which is often used in a derogatory sense, was invented by Hahnemann, the creator of homoeopathy. So it is basically a quacks take on regular medicine, although at the time the term came into use, regular medicine was still pretty primitive, and probably not very effective. Today the term 'evidence-based medicine' is used, or 'science-based medicine'. Here is an interesting site that deals with various conflicts found between alternative therapies (which I usually call the alternative to medicine) and modern medical practice. Science-Based Medicine http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org image http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org Science-Based Medicine http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org Science-Based Medicine: Exploring issues and controversies in the relationship between science and medicine View on www.sciencebasedm... http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote : I've been staying out of the Alternative Therapies free-for-all for a number of reasons. First, it's been done to death here before, so the whole faux outrage thing has a decidedly been there, done that, don't need to do it again vibe to it. Second, possibly because I bailed from the TMO early, I never got infected with that uber-hypochondria that so many long-term TMers exhibit. I never got into fad diets or mega-supplements or any of that stuff, and have managed to remain remarkably healthy *anyway*, never having to go there and put any attention on my health. I've been lucky enough to be healthy and stay healthy...what was there to focus on or obsess on? Third, I currently write articles for all
[FairfieldLife] Re: 8/1213/14-Maharishi: As we take care of ourself, the world will take of itself for us on that level
It would be nice if TM actually worked as advertised and taught, that is, we really did transcend to pure bliss consciousness right from the beginning. If that were the case we'd all be enlightened by now. Unfortunately, that is NOT the case, hence you have TM'ers (like me) 40+ years and still have basic problems. The devil is in the details, and MMY oversold TM in order to get as many started as possible, did the ends justify the means?, maybeTM does work, it just takes a lot longer than we were led to believe and perhaps even M finally realized. (Some say it could take as long as 7 lifetimes to reach our full 'mental' potential.) That being said, I'm a lot better off having started TM than not(just a little perspective on the subject). Maharishi and Hyperbole go together, TM is still the best entry level program to the overall study of Yoga, though it just scratches the surface, IMHO. PS. No mantra, no thought and no bliss? No transcendental consciousness!! sorry Charlie (tuna). The experience of the transcendental is Sat-Chit-Ananda! Where's the beef?
[FairfieldLife] Awake: The Life Of Yogananda - Rotten Tomatoes
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/awake_the_life_of_yogananda/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Awake: The Life Of Yogananda - Rotten Tomatoes
Thanks Rick-That link didn't work (for me) but here it is on Youtube. I think Yogananda truly was a God-man and I think he knew about ALL the techniques of meditation, including TM or mantra-japa. He teaches Kriya which works directly with the prana or life force, not indirectly like TM. It is more difficult but more reliable in the long run, IMHO. Awake: The Life of Yogananda Official Trailer 1 (2014) - Documentary HD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyLkg3uDe1c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyLkg3uDe1c Awake: The Life of Yogananda Official Trailer 1... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyLkg3uDe1c Subscribe to TRAILERS: http://bit.ly/sxaw6h Subscribe to COMING SOON: http://bit.ly/H2vZUn Subscribe to INDIE TRAILERS: http://goo.gl/iPUuo Li... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyLkg3uDe1c Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TMO Disease: Hypochondria
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 8/27/2014 8:19 AM, danfriedman2002 wrote: Rich, You are wealthy because you don't eat too much. Also, since you turned me on to a new TM=related book (Have you read Reflections on the Teachings of Maharishi: A personal Journey by John Hornburg? [sorry, the Italics button is stuck]), I'll explain myself further. This being NYC, there is a Farmer's Market just around the corner from Whole Foods. The word from there is that the Hole Foods produce sucks (technical term used by farmers who know their shit/manure). Our local Hole Foods get's its 'organic produce' from Mexico, Chile et al. Then they claim it is Organic because it has been Crtified Organic in the growing country. The growers can only sell Organic Produce, so they print a lot of organic in dside stickers. I travel in Latin America and find it laughable, if you saw the growing conditions. Then...The Hole Foods Market becomes a magnet for the Nannys, most of whom miss their country so come to congregate. They are given a week's shopping list from their pretentious employer, and have no idea what these food items are. They weave down the isles, strollers plus wagons in tow. Because they would be found out otherwise, they are more likely to drop the child than the especial food item they are retrieving for the list. Entertaining though. Our local Whole Foods Market gets it's organic produce from the farmers market just around the corner or from a farm nearby. The best produce and most satisfying is the produce you grow in your own back yard. What most people don't realize when they purchase food is the stress and heat factor. All processed food is stressed to a certain extent and/or heated. This includes the process and the packaging itself and the transportation from the farm. Produce sometimes comes from as far away as Mexico and California. They show you the difference. Organic apples are not unblemished, organic peaches are not unblemished, organic,,,get it? The ideal would be to procure all or most of your food without using a harvesting device. Since this is close to impossible for most urban dwellers we have to be more flexible and make choices. Locally picked fruit and vegetables harvested by hand in your local area would be the best choice and imported and processed foods last. The best and most satisfying food we ever obtained were apples picked directly from the ground which had fallen the same day from fruit trees grown, but even then we had to drive to the orchard in a wheeled vehicle. Thanks for the book recommendation. I may need to pull away from this exciting time on ffl when the postman delivers. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : On 8/26/2014 6:50 PM, danfriedman2002 wrote: But Rich, Whole Paycheck will kill ya. Better off with Health Nuts (if the name fits, I wear it) or farmstands. But...Whole Paycheck is easy to shoplift. We are not big eaters anymore, so it only costs us a few dollars to buy some vegetables and some grains at the Whole Foods Market. It's not like we have a big family to feed anymore. Sometimes we eat out and that cost more. There is a farmer's market a few blocks away from where we live. We went to this place to eat some raw food: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : Maintaining a healthy diet is one of the most neglected aspects of modern medicine. Just to be on the safe side, we try to eat only organic foods and try to avoid all packaged food. It just makes common sense. Today we went to this place to get some bulk grains and organic vegetables: Whole Foods, San Antonio On 8/26/2014 6:29 AM, anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: The term allopathic, which is often used in a derogatory sense, was invented by Hahnemann, the creator of homoeopathy. So it is basically a quacks take on regular medicine, although at the time the term came into use, regular medicine was still pretty primitive, and probably not very effective. Today the term 'evidence-based medicine' is used, or 'science-based medicine'. Here is an interesting site that deals with various conflicts found between alternative therapies (which I usually call the alternative to medicine) and modern medical practice. Science-Based Medicine Science-Based Medicine Science-Based Medicine: Exploring issues and controversies in the relationship between science and medicine View on www.sciencebasedm... Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote : I've been staying out of the Alternative Therapies free-for-all for a number of reasons. First, it's been done
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8/1213/14-Maharishi: As we take care of ourself, the world will take of itself for us on that level
On 8/27/2014 9:28 AM, wgm4u wrote: It would be nice if TM actually worked as advertised and taught, that is, we really did transcend to pure bliss consciousness right from the beginning. If that were the case we'd all be enlightened by now. Unfortunately, that is NOT the case, hence you have TM'ers (like me) 40+ years and still have basic problems. According to MMY, TM is NOT the cause of enlightenment, it just provides the ideal opportunity for the transcending. The absolute is already there, it just needs to be isolated so that it comes to into our awareness. What we need to do is try not to accumulate more karma and to try to burn off the karma already accrued - through the practice of tapas. You are not going to get any more enlightenment than you are going to get. The trick is to avoid striving which produces more stress and frustration. Find a personal balance you can live with - you are probably already doing as much as you can by meditating and then acting in such a way as to support your own family and friends - dedicate all the fruits of your actions for the benefit of others - karma yoga. Brahman is Light, it needs no other light to illuminate it. - SBS The devil is in the details, and MMY oversold TM in order to get as many started as possible, did the ends justify the means?, maybeTM does work, it just takes a lot longer than we were led to believe and perhaps even M finally realized. (Some say it could take as long as 7 lifetimes to reach our full 'mental' potential.) That being said, I'm a lot better off having started TM than not(just a little perspective on the subject). Maharishi and Hyperbole go together, TM is still the best entry level program to the overall study of Yoga, though it just scratches the surface, IMHO. PS. No mantra, no thought and no bliss? No transcendental consciousness!! sorry Charlie (tuna). The experience of the transcendental is Sat-Chit-Ananda! Where's the beef?
[FairfieldLife] Re: 8/1213/14-Maharishi: As we take care of ourself, the world will take of itself for us on that level
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It would be nice if TM actually worked as advertised and taught, that is, we really did transcend to pure bliss consciousness right from the beginning. If that were the case we'd all be enlightened by now. Unfortunately, that is NOT the case, hence you have TM'ers (like me) 40+ years and still have basic problems. The devil is in the details, and MMY oversold TM in order to get as many started as possible, did the ends justify the means?, maybeTM does work, it just takes a lot longer than we were led to believe and perhaps even M finally realized. (Some say it could take as long as 7 lifetimes to reach our full 'mental' potential.) Relax, You were never born and never die. That being said, I'm a lot better off having started TM than not(just a little perspective on the subject). Maharishi and Hyperbole [optimism is more correct.] go together, TM is still the best entry level program to the overall study of Yoga, though it just scratches the surface, IMHO. The Knowledge is deeper. Read thru the Footnotes of the Constitution of India fulfilled through Maharishi's Transcendental Meditation it is the essence of Vedant. PS. No mantra, no thought and no bliss? Correct.No transcendental consciousness!! sorry Charlie (tuna). The experience of the transcendental is Sat-Chit-Ananda! Where's the beef? I'm veggie.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Awake: The Life Of Yogananda - Rotten Tomatoes
On 8/27/2014 9:37 AM, wgm4u wrote: Thanks Rick-That link didn't work (for me) but here it is on Youtube. I think Yogananda truly was a God-man and I think he knew about ALL the techniques of meditation, including TM or mantra-japa. He teaches Kriya which works directly with the prana or life force, not indirectly like TM. It is more difficult but more reliable in the long run, IMHO. We were members of the SRF before starting TM in 1967 and were frequent visitors to the Mt. Washington center in L.A.. The meditation is very similar to TM practice and includes the use of a mantra called the hong sau as well as being aware of the sound current. It is a reliable yoga practice but I seem to be more attuned to my TM technique, probably due to the benefit of direct contact with teachers like Jerry Jarvis and MMY - which seems to have added the requisite /shakti/ element to my program. Awake: The Life of Yogananda Official Trailer 1 (2014) - Documentary HD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyLkg3uDe1c image https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyLkg3uDe1c Awake: The Life of Yogananda Official Trailer 1... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyLkg3uDe1c Subscribe to TRAILERS: http://bit.ly/sxaw6h Subscribe to COMING SOON: http://bit.ly/H2vZUn Subscribe to INDIE TRAILERS: http://goo.gl/iPUuo Li... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyLkg3uDe1c Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Word to Buck about TM Suicides - Was Maharishi: As we take care of ourself, the world will take of itself for us on that level
Michael, your allegations about TMO ignoring mental health challenges are still very much out of date. Moreover, you were told details about how the TMO is dealing with these issues just a few weeks ago. Today you are ignoring all that info. On Wednesday, August 27, 2014 8:00 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Omm - in a normal population, your contention would be accurate. But with the superlatives claimed for TM and TMSP, esp TMSP in groups, TM suicides should never happen. To acknowledge that suicides happen among long term TM practitioners is to to tacitly acknowledge the PR with which TM and TMSP is sold to the public is in fact dishonest. I would very much love it if the practice of TM had no side effects, and would love it even more if the end results and benefits for TM and TMSP were in fact what was claimed for it. We would be living in a much better happier world if that were the case. My contention is that the TMO needs to own up to the truth about what can happen amongst TM'ers or at least stop touting TM as a cure all for all the worlds ills which is what they essentially do. It is dishonest or perhaps an avoidance behavior to not acknowledge the things that can happen. Anyone who spent any time working at any TM facility all have stories of those who had to leave in the middle of the night or were sent home by the TMO for their strange behavior, plus the attempted and successful suicides. If you are really as hopeful and concerned about the well being of TM'ers as I think you are, it would be a fine first step to begin to acknowledge the down side to TM and long term TMSP. That's all I'm saying. The culture of ignoring the incidents or worse blaming the victims, those who killed themselves or tried to is one of the things that is stifling the Movement itself. What I am suggesting is that current and former TM'ers all join together to be open and honest about these things and extend our hands to those who are suffering from mental/emotional states that may lead to suicide or have led to suicide attempts in the past. The TMO status quo to counsel getting the meditation and sutra practice checked or to have a yagya done just isn't cutting it. An until it becomes ok in TM communities like Fairfield for people to openly acknowledge that are NOT feeling good, they are not in bliss that they have problems suicides and fracturing of the Movement will continue. You know very well that in places like MIU or Vedic Villages if people voice their problems they are looked down on or looked askance at, as if they are off the program, which is about all the TMO is willing to admit might be a problem. And they are not offered the help they need. While it is true that suicides affect all races, religions, etc suicides among TM practitioners must be handled with greater care, and those who are at risk for such behavior need more help perhaps than those in non-TM populations just because of the stigma attached to not being in a place within yourself and acknowledging that place to the world that all is bliss and your life is wonderful because of TM. This is a legacy of Maharishi and one the Movement has a financial interest in maintaining. Even when I was a self styled TM fanatic, one of the things I didn't like about the Movement was its habit of redirecting everyone's attention to TM. No one in the TM community could do ANYTHING without it being an example of TM's bright shiny nature. And yet if someone did something like pull an Ed Beckley, it had nothing to do with TM. This is simply a dishonest point of view and one which does not serve the TM community, nor the larger non TM community with which you interact. The statistics may show Fairfield no different in terms of suicides but statistics have never been compiled for an exclusively TM population. Regardless of what it would show, with the focus TM communities should have on perfection or at least everyone living a good life, one TM suicide is too many. And while that may not be a realistic goal, I hope you know that the kinds of attitude shift that would open things up for real dialogue, real conversations and real actions that are not (and I do not mean to be unkind in saying this) that are not tied to glorifying the Movement and putting money in their pockets. Dead or alive I don't care about Maharishi. I do care about the people who are doing TM and suffering so much their daily visits to the Dome do nothing to decrease that desire to kill themselves. It is one thing for those of us who have left the Movement to call for change, but until you good folks who diligently go to the Domes each day to work for world peace join with your former TM brothers and sisters to call for the pervading atmosphere in the Movement to change regarding TM suicides, the problem will continue. Ultimately only those of
Re: [FairfieldLife] So What Do You do?
Impressive, so perhaps you can help. For starters please clarify what you mean by Slice the vegetables on the bias because I just will not discriminate against any vegetable, green or blue, because vegetables are my friends. I love dairy. Got milk? Wanna eat out together sometime? I yearn (there's that word again) for restaurants. I believe it's because, knowing the time and place of my ioncarnation, I want to enjoy NYC to the max this time around. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 8/27/2014 8:58 AM, danfriedman2002 wrote: I got the Deluxe Browser now. See the brownies below... I do admit though, Hole Foods does have good brownies! We love brownies from Whole Foods, but unfortunately on our current diet, we can't eat many because of the sugar content. We don't consume processed sugar anymore and we have cut way down on our carbohydrate consumption as well. We are currently working on limiting our dairy intake which is very difficult. But, we know a couple that has managed to eliminate all dairy products from their diet. We still eat cooked food but we eat raw food as well, such as salads. We only eat out about once a week these days because most prepared foods are good tasting but also contain other unknown and unsavory ingredients. Our basic food philosophy is keep it simple. Here is our basic recipe for making soup: Ingredients: 1. Vegetables. 2. Water. Directions: In a pot, bring water to a boil. Slice the vegetables on the bias.Add the cut vegetables to the pot. Cover and simmer until the vegetables are soft. Add seasoning to taste. Soup made with organic vegetables and filtered water cooked on low heat. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : On 8/27/2014 8:16 AM, danfriedman2002 wrote: Yes, f the observer is still vibrational, the observed is known only as a solid object and appears to be essentially different from other forms of matter. According to A.J. Bahm, objects appear in consciousness as wholes, or gestalts. They enter experience already made. Some unconscious or subconscious process determines our conscious experiences for us, even though we can never become aware of it. The mystery of consciousness may never be explained satisfactorily,Consciousness is The Simplest Thing. but it is obvious, to those who reflect, that something happens within us to make us see things the way we do. This something must be taken into account in explaining the nature of knowledge. Experience! Perhaps the most startling construction is that of consciousness itself. The intellect is only a part of the mind and thus, blind to wholeness. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : On 8/26/2014 6:54 PM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Michael, that bliss is an isness. It is not a thereness as in, you are already there. Everything is useless and nothing is useless. You are that bliss, mantra is that bliss. Bliss alone is. Even the questions are bliss. In fact they make the bubbles of bliss rise up into laughter. In my experience... It is obvious that different people may not see the same object as it is, but may perceive different objects when confronted by the same stimulus source. We fail to take into account the constructed character of knowing. The term constructed character of knowing may be used to name the synthesizing process that goes on in the brain before experiences are produced. The various nervous impulses do not appear in consciousness to be knowingly assembled or constructed into an object. On Tuesday, August 26, 2014 6:48 PM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: So what do you do when you decide to meditate and suddenly the bliss becomes all there is. I mean the kind of bliss where you know that you are that, and that's all you are and everybody even your enemies are that too? I mean, what do you do with that? Mantra is useless - there is no place to go, you're already there. I mean what the...? We love brownies from Whole Foods, but unfortunately on our current diet, we can't eat many because of the sugar content. We don't consume processed sugar anymore and we have cut way down on our carbohydrate consumption as well. We are currently working on limiting our dairy intake which is very difficult. But, we know a couple that has managed to eliminate all dairy products from their diet. We still eat cooked food but we eat raw food as well, such as salads. We only eat out about once a week these days because most prepared foods are good tasting but also contain other unknown and unsavory
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Awake: The Life Of Yogananda - Rotten Tomatoes
I was with Swami Satchitananda. Woodstock lives! Rocks on ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 8/27/2014 9:37 AM, wgm4u wrote: Thanks Rick-That link didn't work (for me) but here it is on Youtube. I think Yogananda truly was a God-man and I think he knew about ALL the techniques of meditation, including TM or mantra-japa. He teaches Kriya which works directly with the prana or life force, not indirectly like TM. It is more difficult but more reliable in the long run, IMHO. We were members of the SRF before starting TM in 1967 and were frequent visitors to the Mt. Washington center in L.A.. The meditation is very similar to TM practice and includes the use of a mantra called the hong sau as well as being aware of the sound current. It is a reliable yoga practice but I seem to be more attuned to my TM technique, probably due to the benefit of direct contact with teachers like Jerry Jarvis and MMY - which seems to have added the requisite shakti element to my program. Awake: The Life of Yogananda Official Trailer 1 (2014) - Documentary HD Awake: The Life of Yogananda Official Trailer 1... Subscribe to TRAILERS: http://bit.ly/sxaw6h http://bit.ly/sxaw6h Subscribe to COMING SOON: http://bit.ly/H2vZUn http://bit.ly/H2vZUn Subscribe to INDIE TRAILERS: http://goo.gl/iPUuo http://goo.gl/iPUuo Li... View on www.youtube.com Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Word to Buck about TM Suicides - Was Maharishi: As we take care of ourself, the world will take of itself for us on that level
There, there, Daniel, sorry to have upset you. How about some great pizza for lunch. That'll perk you up! On Wednesday, August 27, 2014 10:23 AM, danfriedman2002 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: The Allegator ignoring information? Say it ain't so! and I so believed in him (sobbing) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Michael, your allegations about TMO ignoring mental health challenges are still very much out of date. Moreover, you were told details about how the TMO is dealing with these issues just a few weeks ago. Today you are ignoring all that info. On Wednesday, August 27, 2014 8:00 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Omm - in a normal population, your contention would be accurate. But with the superlatives claimed for TM and TMSP, esp TMSP in groups, TM suicides should never happen. To acknowledge that suicides happen among long term TM practitioners is to to tacitly acknowledge the PR with which TM and TMSP is sold to the public is in fact dishonest. I would very much love it if the practice of TM had no side effects, and would love it even more if the end results and benefits for TM and TMSP were in fact what was claimed for it. We would be living in a much better happier world if that were the case. My contention is that the TMO needs to own up to the truth about what can happen amongst TM'ers or at least stop touting TM as a cure all for all the worlds ills which is what they essentially do. It is dishonest or perhaps an avoidance behavior to not acknowledge the things that can happen. Anyone who spent any time working at any TM facility all have stories of those who had to leave in the middle of the night or were sent home by the TMO for their strange behavior, plus the attempted and successful suicides. If you are really as hopeful and concerned about the well being of TM'ers as I think you are, it would be a fine first step to begin to acknowledge the down side to TM and long term TMSP. That's all I'm saying. The culture of ignoring the incidents or worse blaming the victims, those who killed themselves or tried to is one of the things that is stifling the Movement itself. What I am suggesting is that current and former TM'ers all join together to be open and honest about these things and extend our hands to those who are suffering from mental/emotional states that may lead to suicide or have led to suicide attempts in the past. The TMO status quo to counsel getting the meditation and sutra practice checked or to have a yagya done just isn't cutting it. An until it becomes ok in TM communities like Fairfield for people to openly acknowledge that are NOT feeling good, they are not in bliss that they have problems suicides and fracturing of the Movement will continue. You know very well that in places like MIU or Vedic Villages if people voice their problems they are looked down on or looked askance at, as if they are off the program, which is about all the TMO is willing to admit might be a problem. And they are not offered the help they need. While it is true that suicides affect all races, religions, etc suicides among TM practitioners must be handled with greater care, and those who are at risk for such behavior need more help perhaps than those in non-TM populations just because of the stigma attached to not being in a place within yourself and acknowledging that place to the world that all is bliss and your life is wonderful because of TM. This is a legacy of Maharishi and one the Movement has a financial interest in maintaining. Even when I was a self styled TM fanatic, one of the things I didn't like about the Movement was its habit of redirecting everyone's attention to TM. No one in the TM community could do ANYTHING without it being an example of TM's bright shiny nature. And yet if someone did something like pull an Ed Beckley, it had nothing to do with TM. This is simply a dishonest point of view and one which does not serve the TM community, nor the larger non TM community with which you interact. The statistics may show Fairfield no different in terms of suicides but statistics have never been compiled for an exclusively TM population. Regardless of what it would show, with the focus TM communities should have on perfection or at least everyone living a good life, one TM suicide is too many. And while that may not be a realistic goal, I hope you know that the kinds of attitude shift that would open things up for real dialogue, real conversations and real actions that are not (and I do not mean to be unkind in saying this) that are not tied to glorifying the Movement and putting money in their pockets. Dead or alive I don't care about Maharishi. I do care about the people who are doing TM and suffering so much their daily visits to the Dome do nothing to decrease that desire to kill themselves. It is one thing
Re: [FairfieldLife] Word to Buck about TM Suicides - Was Maharishi: As we take care of ourself, the world will take of itself for us on that level
Pizza! Brilliant! You do know how to make a person feel good. (just the opposite of somebody) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : There, there, Daniel, sorry to have upset you. How about some great pizza for lunch. That'll perk you up! On Wednesday, August 27, 2014 10:23 AM, danfriedman2002 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: The Allegator ignoring information? Say it ain't so! and I so believed in him (sobbing) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Michael, your allegations about TMO ignoring mental health challenges are still very much out of date. Moreover, you were told details about how the TMO is dealing with these issues just a few weeks ago. Today you are ignoring all that info. On Wednesday, August 27, 2014 8:00 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Omm - in a normal population, your contention would be accurate. But with the superlatives claimed for TM and TMSP, esp TMSP in groups, TM suicides should never happen. To acknowledge that suicides happen among long term TM practitioners is to to tacitly acknowledge the PR with which TM and TMSP is sold to the public is in fact dishonest. I would very much love it if the practice of TM had no side effects, and would love it even more if the end results and benefits for TM and TMSP were in fact what was claimed for it. We would be living in a much better happier world if that were the case. My contention is that the TMO needs to own up to the truth about what can happen amongst TM'ers or at least stop touting TM as a cure all for all the worlds ills which is what they essentially do. It is dishonest or perhaps an avoidance behavior to not acknowledge the things that can happen. Anyone who spent any time working at any TM facility all have stories of those who had to leave in the middle of the night or were sent home by the TMO for their strange behavior, plus the attempted and successful suicides. If you are really as hopeful and concerned about the well being of TM'ers as I think you are, it would be a fine first step to begin to acknowledge the down side to TM and long term TMSP. That's all I'm saying. The culture of ignoring the incidents or worse blaming the victims, those who killed themselves or tried to is one of the things that is stifling the Movement itself. What I am suggesting is that current and former TM'ers all join together to be open and honest about these things and extend our hands to those who are suffering from mental/emotional states that may lead to suicide or have led to suicide attempts in the past. The TMO status quo to counsel getting the meditation and sutra practice checked or to have a yagya done just isn't cutting it. An until it becomes ok in TM communities like Fairfield for people to openly acknowledge that are NOT feeling good, they are not in bliss that they have problems suicides and fracturing of the Movement will continue. You know very well that in places like MIU or Vedic Villages if people voice their problems they are looked down on or looked askance at, as if they are off the program, which is about all the TMO is willing to admit might be a problem. And they are not offered the help they need. While it is true that suicides affect all races, religions, etc suicides among TM practitioners must be handled with greater care, and those who are at risk for such behavior need more help perhaps than those in non-TM populations just because of the stigma attached to not being in a place within yourself and acknowledging that place to the world that all is bliss and your life is wonderful because of TM. This is a legacy of Maharishi and one the Movement has a financial interest in maintaining. Even when I was a self styled TM fanatic, one of the things I didn't like about the Movement was its habit of redirecting everyone's attention to TM. No one in the TM community could do ANYTHING without it being an example of TM's bright shiny nature. And yet if someone did something like pull an Ed Beckley, it had nothing to do with TM. This is simply a dishonest point of view and one which does not serve the TM community, nor the larger non TM community with which you interact. The statistics may show Fairfield no different in terms of suicides but statistics have never been compiled for an exclusively TM population. Regardless of what it would show, with the focus TM communities should have on perfection or at least everyone living a good life, one TM suicide is too many. And while that may not be a realistic goal, I hope you know that the kinds of attitude shift that would open things up for real dialogue, real conversations and real actions that are not (and I do not mean to be unkind in saying this) that are not tied to glorifying the Movement and putting money in
[FairfieldLife] Re: US Bombs Own Vehicles and Weapons
Salyavin, IMO, ISIS and the Sunnis are one and the same. The so called militants are the Sunni fighters at night, figuratively speaking, and during the daylight they become the residents of the towns doing their ordinary tasks. Obama is correct in saying that this problem is an Iraqi problem. They have to let the democratic process take hold in their own culture and understanding. And who are the victims? The minority people of Iraq, including the Christians, who are attempting to live in peace in a troubled land. In the meantime, the kabal that is funding this mayhem is rejoicing in the money they're making by selling barrels of oil at very high prices to Europe, the USA and the rest of the world. Is this evil or what? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : This is such an absurd turn of events. Why did the Iraqi army give up so easily against ISIS? IMO, the Iraqi army was infiltrated with sympathizers of ISIS. The officers of the army were probably paid off by ISIS to run away with their subordinates and leave the American vehicles and equipment to the militants. Maybe they were just scared? Maybe the US should put self-destruct devices in their next bunch of free gifts to the middle east.. It appears that the Iraqi army does not want to fight and are willing to be subjugated by the militants. In the end, they are willing to let the Christians and other minorities to be killed as sacrifices to the militant overlords. U.S. Airstrikes Destroy Millions Of Dollars In U.S.-Made Arms In Iraq http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/26/us-military-weapons-iraq_n_5718099.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0592 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/26/us-military-weapons-iraq_n_5718099.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0592 U.S. Airstrikes Destroy Millions Of Dollars In U.S http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/26/us-military-weapons-iraq_n_5718099.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0592 By Missy Ryan WASHINGTON, Aug 26 (Reuters) - The grainy black-and-white footage shows a military vehicle, a small dark mass in the crosshairs of a U.S. w... View on www.huffingtonpos... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/26/us-military-weapons-iraq_n_5718099.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0592 Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Working towards Integrated Modern [spiritual too] Mental Health..
Differently, this person has taken and re-branded inclusively what TM should have done.. mentioned as an underwriter of local NPR .. “Virtue Medicine” bringing allopathic scientific medicine and alternative together for client-centric mental health. Take a look at the web page for her clinic in Iowa City: http://www.virtuemedicine.com/ http://www.virtuemedicine.com/ Wow, she got the jump on us, -Buck English5 writes: Vedic Psychiatry: talk by Richard Schneider at WAVES conference Starts about 49 minutes into the 4th video from the top: WAVES Conference: 7/31 to 8/2 by Maharishi University of Management http://new.livestream.com/mum/events/3226432 http://new.livestream.com/mum/events/3226432 WAVES Conference: 7/31 to 8/2 by Maharishi University ... http://new.livestream.com/mum/events/3226432 Watch Maharishi University of Management's WAVES Conference: 7/31 to 8/2 on Livestream.com. Thursday, 31 July 2014 is the evening (7:00–9:45 p.m View on new.livestrea... http://new.livestream.com/mum/events/3226432 Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Working towards Integrated Modern [spiritual too] Mental Health..
Buck, You are one of the most well-intentioned persons I've met. Wish there were more like you. For a moment, try to change your perspective from Iowa, as the center of your lens, to a more diffused perspective. Let your focus take in the whole. Think Latin America to NYC (where even here, very influential folks are supporting TM...and they're using their promotional skills, media, endorsements and I'net to make things happen. And things are happinin! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Differently, this person has taken and re-branded inclusively what TM should have done.. mentioned as an underwriter of local NPR .. “Virtue Medicine” bringing allopathic scientific medicine and alternative together for client-centric mental health. Take a look at the web page for her clinic in Iowa City: http://www.virtuemedicine.com/ http://www.virtuemedicine.com/ Wow, she got the jump on us, -Buck English5 writes: Vedic Psychiatry: talk by Richard Schneider at WAVES conference Starts about 49 minutes into the 4th video from the top: WAVES Conference: 7/31 to 8/2 by Maharishi University of Management http://new.livestream.com/mum/events/3226432 http://new.livestream.com/mum/events/3226432 WAVES Conference: 7/31 to 8/2 by Maharishi University ... http://new.livestream.com/mum/events/3226432 Watch Maharishi University of Management's WAVES Conference: 7/31 to 8/2 on Livestream.com. Thursday, 31 July 2014 is the evening (7:00–9:45 p.m View on new.livestrea... http://new.livestream.com/mum/events/3226432 Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Vedic eye-patch wearers take note...
Sounds like India is on another fascism kick. It's always been a corrupt country, sorta the Mexico of Asia. I read India's copyright act a little while back and it is quite a joke. On 08/26/2014 10:45 PM, salyavin808 wrote: Don't go pirating those Bollywood classics! We the goondas - Bangalore Mirror http://www.bangaloremirror.com/bangalore/cover-story/We-the-goondas/articleshow/39564603.cms image http://www.bangaloremirror.com/bangalore/cover-story/We-the-goondas/articleshow/39564603.cms We the goondas - Bangalore Mirror http://www.bangaloremirror.com/bangalore/cover-story/We-the-goondas/articleshow/39564603.cms You can now be arrested in Karnataka even before you commit an offence under the IT Act. You could be in jail under the Goonda Act even if not guilty under the ... View on www.bangaloremirro... http://www.bangaloremirror.com/bangalore/cover-story/We-the-goondas/articleshow/39564603.cms Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: US Bombs Own Vehicles and Weapons
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Salyavin, IMO, ISIS and the Sunnis are one and the same. The so called militants are the Sunni fighters at night, figuratively speaking, and during the daylight they become the residents of the towns doing their ordinary tasks. Obama is correct in saying that this problem is an Iraqi problem. They have to let the democratic process take hold in their own culture and understanding. And who are the victims? The minority people of Iraq, including the Christians, who are attempting to live in peace in a troubled land. In the meantime, the kabal that is funding this mayhem is rejoicing in the money they're making by selling barrels of oil at very high prices to Europe, the USA and the rest of the world. Is this evil or what? Yup. I do think the whole cock-up is our fault, from the end of the Ottaman empire onwards we've connived and meddled in their affairs and finally in 2003 we set this little ball rolling. So I disagree that the Iraqi problem is theirs alone. We trashed their country and set up a hopeless puppet government that has failed miserably, there was hardly a thought for the aftermath in Blair's messianic vision of himself as the Iraqi saviour. When you break something you should pay for it. It isn't like they weren't warned, it isn't like this shit always happens... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : This is such an absurd turn of events. Why did the Iraqi army give up so easily against ISIS? IMO, the Iraqi army was infiltrated with sympathizers of ISIS. The officers of the army were probably paid off by ISIS to run away with their subordinates and leave the American vehicles and equipment to the militants. Maybe they were just scared? Maybe the US should put self-destruct devices in their next bunch of free gifts to the middle east.. It appears that the Iraqi army does not want to fight and are willing to be subjugated by the militants. In the end, they are willing to let the Christians and other minorities to be killed as sacrifices to the militant overlords. U.S. Airstrikes Destroy Millions Of Dollars In U.S.-Made Arms In Iraq http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/26/us-military-weapons-iraq_n_5718099.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0592 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/26/us-military-weapons-iraq_n_5718099.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0592 U.S. Airstrikes Destroy Millions Of Dollars In U.S http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/26/us-military-weapons-iraq_n_5718099.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0592 By Missy Ryan WASHINGTON, Aug 26 (Reuters) - The grainy black-and-white footage shows a military vehicle, a small dark mass in the crosshairs of a U.S. w... View on www.huffingtonpos... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/26/us-military-weapons-iraq_n_5718099.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0592 Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Sally Kempton: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 08/26/2014
https://gallery.mailchimp.com/62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5/images/7d6f5fc9-48d2-4cf2-a2a4-7dc581753771.jpg If you are not doing so already, please consider donating a few dollars a month to help offset basic expenses associated with hosting, MailChimp, etc. Of course, larger donations for other expenses are very much appreciated and needed. Donate button on http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=ca0a16464ae=16e07f16fe http://batgap.com. Updates from Buddha at the Gas Pump Interviews with Ordinary Spiritually Awakened People New interview posted 08/26/2014: * 247. Sally Kempton http://batgap.us2.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=c9187c4569e=16e07f16fe 247. Sally Kempton By Rick on Aug 25, 2014 06:18 pm Sally Kempton is a deeply practiced teacher of meditation and spiritual philosophy, and the author of the books Meditation for the Love of It and Awakening Shakti: as well as the audio course Doorways to the Infinite, recently put out … http://batgap.us2.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=508b00dc5fe=16e07f16fe Continue reading → The post http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=2c9681979fe=16e07f16fe 247. Sally Kempton appeared first on http://batgap.us2.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=eb89b2a7d5e=16e07f16fe Buddha at the Gas Pump. http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=4057370a1ee=16e07f16fe Read in browser » http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=447848078ee=16e07f16fe http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=b691c7b3b4e=16e07f16fe Recent Interviews: http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=bf272140cfe=16e07f16fe 246. Shinzen Young http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=822f25e64ce=16e07f16fe 245. Āloka David Smith http://batgap.us2.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=643059af17e=16e07f16fe 244. Dan Harris http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=abd3d49d90e=16e07f16fe 243. Linda Clair http://batgap.us2.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=1252751a59e=16e07f16fe 242. David Hoffmeister Copyright © 2014 Buddha at the Gas Pump, All rights reserved. Regular announcement of new interviews posted at http://batgap.com. Our mailing address is: Buddha at the Gas Pump 1108 South B Street Fairfield, Iowa 52556 http://batgap.us2.list-manage1.com/vcard?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=b0e5d0d53a Add us to your address book http://www.mailchimp.com/monkey-rewards/?utm_source=freemium_newsletterutm_medium=emailutm_campaign=monkey_rewardsaid=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5afl=1 http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/open.php?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=402eedd3c6e=16e07f16fe
[FairfieldLife] Re: Some Common Sense about Guns, Please?
Maybe they're training the school kids to protect themselves against the next spree killing nutjob? I do wonder at the sanity of people who give a nine year old any sort of gun let alone an uzi. Barking mad the lot of them... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Well, whadda think Ann? http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-28948946 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-28948946 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-28948946 US girl, nine, kills gun instructor http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-28948946 A nine-year-old girl kills her shooting instructor by accident while being shown how to use an Uzi submachine gun at a firing range in Arizona. View on www.bbc.com Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Sally Kempton: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 08/26/2014
Nice graphic. Is that new? From: 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com; fairfieldc...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 6:41 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Sally Kempton: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 08/26/2014 If you are not doing so already, please consider donating a few dollars a month to help offset basic expenses associated with hosting, MailChimp, etc. Of course, larger donations for other expenses are very much appreciated and needed. Donate button on http://batgap.com. Updates from Buddha at the Gas Pump Interviews with Ordinary Spiritually Awakened People New interview posted 08/26/2014: * 247. Sally Kempton 247. Sally Kempton By Rick on Aug 25, 2014 06:18 pm Sally Kempton is a deeply practiced teacher of meditation and spiritual philosophy, and the author of the books Meditation for the Love of It and Awakening Shakti: as well as the audio course Doorways to the Infinite, recently put out … Continue reading → The post 247. Sally Kempton appeared first on Buddha at the Gas Pump. Read in browser » Recent Interviews: 246. Shinzen Young 245. Āloka David Smith 244. Dan Harris 243. Linda Clair 242. David Hoffmeister Copyright © 2014 Buddha at the Gas Pump, All rights reserved. Regular announcement of new interviews posted at http://batgap.com. Our mailing address is: Buddha at the Gas Pump 1108 South B Street Fairfield, Iowa 52556 Add us to your address book
[FairfieldLife] Jindal Is Making Waves
He's suing the Obama administration over education standards. But this also could be his strategy for getting nominated as the next presidential candidate by the GOP in 2016. http://news.yahoo.com/apnewsbreak-jindal-suing-feds-over-common-core-091244831.html http://news.yahoo.com/apnewsbreak-jindal-suing-feds-over-common-core-091244831.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Sally Kempton: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 08/26/2014
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Nice graphic. Is that new? Ditto that. From: 'Rick Archer' rick@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com; fairfieldc...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 6:41 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Sally Kempton: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 08/26/2014 If you are not doing so already, please consider donating a few dollars a month to help offset basic expenses associated with hosting, MailChimp, etc. Of course, larger donations for other expenses are very much appreciated and needed. Donate button on http://batgap.com http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=ca0a16464ae=16e07f16fe. Updates from Buddha at the Gas Pump Interviews with Ordinary Spiritually Awakened People New interview posted 08/26/2014: 247. Sally Kempton https://us-mg5.mail.yahoo.com/neo/launch?.rand=0b8m3ft1a6o9h#mctoc1 247. Sally Kempton http://batgap.us2.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=c9187c4569e=16e07f16fe By Rick on Aug 25, 2014 06:18 pm Sally Kempton is a deeply practiced teacher of meditation and spiritual philosophy, and the author of the books Meditation for the Love of It and Awakening Shakti: as well as the audio course Doorways to the Infinite, recently put out … Continue reading → http://batgap.us2.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=508b00dc5fe=16e07f16fe The post 247. Sally Kempton http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=2c9681979fe=16e07f16fe appeared first on Buddha at the Gas Pump http://batgap.us2.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=eb89b2a7d5e=16e07f16fe. Read in browser » http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=4057370a1ee=16e07f16fe http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=447848078ee=16e07f16fe http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=b691c7b3b4e=16e07f16fe Recent Interviews: 246. Shinzen Young http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=bf272140cfe=16e07f16fe 245. Āloka David Smith http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=822f25e64ce=16e07f16fe 244. Dan Harris http://batgap.us2.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=643059af17e=16e07f16fe 243. Linda Clair http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=abd3d49d90e=16e07f16fe 242. David Hoffmeister http://batgap.us2.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=1252751a59e=16e07f16fe Copyright © 2014 Buddha at the Gas Pump, All rights reserved. Regular announcement of new interviews posted at http://batgap.com http://batgap.com/. Our mailing address is: Buddha at the Gas Pump 1108 South B Street Fairfield, Iowa 52556 Add us to your address book http://batgap.us2.list-manage1.com/vcard?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=b0e5d0d53a http://www.mailchimp.com/monkey-rewards/?utm_source=freemium_newsletterutm_medium=emailutm_campaign=monkey_rewardsaid=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5afl=1
[FairfieldLife] Ging for pizza...
...now m! I hope you enjoy your respective lunches. In deference to B, I hope you others are enjoying brakfast. And still others, dinner, and others Supper... Or fasting. Or dieting. snaking anyone? did I leave anyone out?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Awake: The Life Of Yogananda - Rotten Tomatoes
“We were members of the SRF before starting TM in 1967 and were frequent visitors to the Mt. Washington center in L.A.. The meditation is very similar to TM practice and includes the use of a mantra called the hong sau as well as being aware of the sound current. It is a reliable yoga practice but I seem to be more attuned to my TM technique, probably due to the benefit of direct contact with teachers like Jerry Jarvis and MMY - which seems to have added the requisite shakti element to my program.” The “hong-sau” was Yogananda’s Bengali approximation of some ancient breath-phonemes. These are forms of mantra-pranâyama used to un-restrain (“ayama”) the breath. It is a practice found throughout the Yoga-Upanishads. However, the actual Sanskrit is “haṃsa” – pronounced in English equivalency as “hum” (as in the word humble) plus the phoneme “suh” as in the Southern reply “yes suh”. Therefore, the accurate pronunciation in Sanskrit is “humsuh”. The Bengali-English equivalent would be either “hungsuh” (not like hoong” but like “he hung himself”) or with long “ah-s” as the phoneme “hângsâh”. The phoneme“hong” is a straightforward pronunciation-equivalent. The so-called phoneme “sau” is pronounced in Sanskrit like the English word “sow” and was an unwieldy attempt by Yogananda to approximate the phoneme “sah”. When joined with the breath, the in-breath sound is hum and the out-breath sound is suh. As it says in one of the Yoga-upanishad-s, when performed long enough, this pranâyama-mantra reverses and becomes the more common prana-mantra sohaṃ - pronounced so on the inbreath and hum on the outbreath. This is an Upanishad identity mantra: Soham means He I am (parsed as sah-aham) but joined in Sanskrit sandhi (phonemic union). ♫ Paramahânsa Yogânânda parlez-vous? ♫
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: US Bombs Own Vehicles and Weapons
The Iraqi army officers and enlisted were cowards. They feared being on the losing side and in their part of the world,. especially when dealing with Islam, that means losing your head. Better be safe and melt away, live to fight another day or melt away again. On Wednesday, August 27, 2014 9:39 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Salyavin, IMO, ISIS and the Sunnis are one and the same. The so called militants are the Sunni fighters at night, figuratively speaking, and during the daylight they become the residents of the towns doing their ordinary tasks. Obama is correct in saying that this problem is an Iraqi problem. They have to let the democratic process take hold in their own culture and understanding. And who are the victims? The minority people of Iraq, including the Christians, who are attempting to live in peace in a troubled land. In the meantime, the kabal that is funding this mayhem is rejoicing in the money they're making by selling barrels of oil at very high prices to Europe, the USA and the rest of the world. Is this evil or what? Yup. I do think the whole cock-up is our fault, from the end of the Ottaman empire onwards we've connived and meddled in their affairs and finally in 2003 we set this little ball rolling. So I disagree that the Iraqi problem is theirs alone. We trashed their country and set up a hopeless puppet government that has failed miserably, there was hardly a thought for the aftermath in Blair's messianic vision of himself as the Iraqi saviour. When you break something you should pay for it. It isn't like they weren't warned, it isn't like this shit always happens... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : This is such an absurd turn of events. Why did the Iraqi army give up so easily against ISIS? IMO, the Iraqi army was infiltrated with sympathizers of ISIS. The officers of the army were probably paid off by ISIS to run away with their subordinates and leave the American vehicles and equipment to the militants. Maybe they were just scared? Maybe the US should put self-destruct devices in their next bunch of free gifts to the middle east.. It appears that the Iraqi army does not want to fight and are willing to be subjugated by the militants. In the end, they are willing to let the Christians and other minorities to be killed as sacrifices to the militant overlords. U.S. Airstrikes Destroy Millions Of Dollars In U.S.-Made Arms In Iraq U.S. Airstrikes Destroy Millions Of Dollars In U.S By Missy Ryan WASHINGTON, Aug 26 (Reuters) - The grainy black-and-white footage shows a military vehicle, a small dark mass in the crosshairs of a U.S. w... View on www.huffingtonpos... Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Working towards Integrated Modern [spiritual too] Mental Health..
Thanks, for the wide view but as Everett Dirksen would say, “All politics is local..”. Some of us live here and you do not and what is going on in this subject thread very much affects our community here. It matters to me mostly because how folks behave in the movement affects us locally as to the practical well-being of family and friends who live here. The TM movement here and how it behaves is of great communal interest particularly for all those of us who live here and are part of it or touched by it. Likewise it is certainly time for the movement to take a lead at helping recast the standards of spiritual mental health to help embrace what is allopathic science and also alternative [spiritual] modality that people know and find anyway in their lives as useful and effective. Robert Schneider's power-point slides begin to do that and could be a reasonable umbrella to help fuse modern science, modern spirituality, and alternative modality. The meditating community here is substantial and our experience needs to be spoken to to help outside mental health experts also understand what they see when people from Fairfield come out to them. Those of us who are transcendentalists are different from others by experience. There is a practicality to that. Robert Schneider's talk has a place in that framework for working with communal meditating Fairfield. -Buck Buck, You are one of the most well-intentioned persons I've met. Wish there were more like you. For a moment, try to change your perspective from Iowa, as the center of your lens, to a more diffused perspective. Let your focus take in the whole. Think Latin America to NYC (where even here, very influential folks are supporting TM...and they're using their promotional skills, media, endorsements and I'net to make things happen. And things are happinin! Differently, this person has taken and re-branded inclusively what TM should have done.. mentioned as an underwriter of local NPR .. “Virtue Medicine” bringing allopathic scientific medicine and alternative together for client-centric mental health. Take a look at the web page for her clinic in Iowa City: http://www.virtuemedicine.com/ http://www.virtuemedicine.com/ Wow, she got the jump on us, -Buck English5 writes: Vedic Psychiatry: talk by Richard Schneider at WAVES conference Starts about 49 minutes into the 4th video from the top: WAVES Conference: 7/31 to 8/2 by Maharishi University of Management http://new.livestream.com/mum/events/3226432 http://new.livestream.com/mum/events/3226432 WAVES Conference: 7/31 to 8/2 by Maharishi University ... http://new.livestream.com/mum/events/3226432 Watch Maharishi University of Management's WAVES Conference: 7/31 to 8/2 on Livestream.com. Thursday, 31 July 2014 is the evening (7:00–9:45 p.m View on new.livestrea... http://new.livestream.com/mum/events/3226432 Preview by Yahoo
RE: [FairfieldLife] Sally Kempton: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 08/26/2014
Yes, relatively new. A listener in the UK made it for me. Can be downloaded in various sizes at http://batgap.com/aboutus/fan-resources/, as can batgap theme song, written by Vaj, to use as ring tone. From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 11:44 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Sally Kempton: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 08/26/2014 Nice graphic. Is that new? _ From: 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com mailto:r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com ; fairfieldc...@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldc...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 6:41 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Sally Kempton: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 08/26/2014 https://gallery.mailchimp.com/62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5/images/7d6f5fc9-48d2-4cf2-a2a4-7dc581753771.jpg If you are not doing so already, please consider donating a few dollars a month to help offset basic expenses associated with hosting, MailChimp, etc. Of course, larger donations for other expenses are very much appreciated and needed. Donate button on http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=ca0a16464ae=16e07f16fe http://batgap.com. Updates from Buddha at the Gas Pump Interviews with Ordinary Spiritually Awakened People New interview posted 08/26/2014: *https://us-mg5.mail.yahoo.com/neo/launch?.rand=0b8m3ft1a6o9h#mctoc1 247. Sally Kempton http://batgap.us2.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=c9187c4569e=16e07f16fe 247. Sally Kempton By Rick on Aug 25, 2014 06:18 pm Sally Kempton is a deeply practiced teacher of meditation and spiritual philosophy, and the author of the books Meditation for the Love of It and Awakening Shakti: as well as the audio course Doorways to the Infinite, recently put out … http://batgap.us2.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=508b00dc5fe=16e07f16fe Continue reading → The post http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=2c9681979fe=16e07f16fe 247. Sally Kempton appeared first on http://batgap.us2.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=eb89b2a7d5e=16e07f16fe Buddha at the Gas Pump. http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=4057370a1ee=16e07f16fe Read in browser » http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=447848078ee=16e07f16fe http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=b691c7b3b4e=16e07f16fe Recent Interviews: http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=bf272140cfe=16e07f16fe 246. Shinzen Young http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=822f25e64ce=16e07f16fe 245. Āloka David Smith http://batgap.us2.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=643059af17e=16e07f16fe 244. Dan Harris http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=abd3d49d90e=16e07f16fe 243. Linda Clair http://batgap.us2.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=1252751a59e=16e07f16fe 242. David Hoffmeister Copyright © 2014 Buddha at the Gas Pump, All rights reserved. Regular announcement of new interviews posted at http://batgap.com http://batgap.com/ . Our mailing address is: Buddha at the Gas Pump 1108 South B Street Fairfield, Iowa 52556 http://batgap.us2.list-manage1.com/vcard?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=b0e5d0d53a Add us to your address book http://www.mailchimp.com/monkey-rewards/?utm_source=freemium_newsletterutm_medium=emailutm_campaign=monkey_rewardsaid=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5afl=1 http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/open.php?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=402eedd3c6e=16e07f16fe
[FairfieldLife] Re: US Bombs Own Vehicles and Weapons
This is what we all have to look forward to when they get here and get in power. The Genocide of Banu Qurayza - WikiIslam http://wikiislam.net/wiki/The_Genocide_of_Banu_Qurayza http://wikiislam.net/wiki/The_Genocide_of_Banu_Qurayza The Genocide of Banu Qurayza - WikiIslam http://wikiislam.net/wiki/The_Genocide_of_Banu_Qurayza Detail from miniature painting: The Prophet, Ali, and the Companions at the Massacre of the Prisoners of the Jewish Tribe of Beni Qurayzah, illustration of ... View on wikiislam.net http://wikiislam.net/wiki/The_Genocide_of_Banu_Qurayza Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: US Bombs Own Vehicles and Weapons
You are all under-educated about Islamic history - especially of the actual deeds of the prophet. These are all faithful Muslims who are doing exactly what their prophet did - and in the same way. If possible (Allah willing as they say), they will do it to all of us. Death by beheading or by AK execution for the men and sexual slavery for the good-looking women. The ordinary women will just be household slaves - if they even survive at all.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Word to Buck about TM Suicides - Was Maharishi: As we take care of ourself, the world will take of itself for us on that level
Re read dear - I am ignoring nothing, but you are ignoring my asking people to come together. Open your mind dear. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Word to Buck about TM Suicides - Was Maharishi: As we take care of ourself, the world will take of itself for us on that level Michael, your allegations about TMO ignoring mental health challenges are still very much out of date. Moreover, you were told details about how the TMO is dealing with these issues just a few weeks ago. Today you are ignoring all that info. On Wednesday, August 27, 2014 8:00 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Omm - in a normal population, your contention would be accurate. But with the superlatives claimed for TM and TMSP, esp TMSP in groups, TM suicides should never happen. To acknowledge that suicides happen among long term TM practitioners is to to tacitly acknowledge the PR with which TM and TMSP is sold to the public is in fact dishonest. I would very much love it if the practice of TM had no side effects, and would love it even more if the end results and benefits for TM and TMSP were in fact what was claimed for it. We would be living in a much better happier world if that were the case. My contention is that the TMO needs to own up to the truth about what can happen amongst TM'ers or at least stop touting TM as a cure all for all the worlds ills which is what they essentially do. It is dishonest or perhaps an avoidance behavior to not acknowledge the things that can happen. Anyone who spent any time working at any TM facility all have stories of those who had to leave in the middle of the night or were sent home by the TMO for their strange behavior, plus the attempted and successful suicides. If you are really as hopeful and concerned about the well being of TM'ers as I think you are, it would be a fine first step to begin to acknowledge the down side to TM and long term TMSP. That's all I'm saying. The culture of ignoring the incidents or worse blaming the victims, those who killed themselves or tried to is one of the things that is stifling the Movement itself. What I am suggesting is that current and former TM'ers all join together to be open and honest about these things and extend our hands to those who are suffering from mental/emotional states that may lead to suicide or have led to suicide attempts in the past. The TMO status quo to counsel getting the meditation and sutra practice checked or to have a yagya done just isn't cutting it. An until it becomes ok in TM communities like Fairfield for people to openly acknowledge that are NOT feeling good, they are not in bliss that they have problems suicides and fracturing of the Movement will continue. You know very well that in places like MIU or Vedic Villages if people voice their problems they are looked down on or looked askance at, as if they are off the program, which is about all the TMO is willing to admit might be a problem. And they are not offered the help they need. While it is true that suicides affect all races, religions, etc suicides among TM practitioners must be handled with greater care, and those who are at risk for such behavior need more help perhaps than those in non-TM populations just because of the stigma attached to not being in a place within yourself and acknowledging that place to the world that all is bliss and your life is wonderful because of TM. This is a legacy of Maharishi and one the Movement has a financial interest in maintaining. Even when I was a self styled TM fanatic, one of the things I didn't like about the Movement was its habit of redirecting everyone's attention to TM. No one in the TM community could do ANYTHING without it being an example of TM's bright shiny nature. And yet if someone did something like pull an Ed Beckley, it had nothing to do with TM. This is simply a dishonest point of view and one which does not serve the TM community, nor the larger non TM community with which you interact. The statistics may show Fairfield no different in terms of suicides but statistics have never been compiled for an exclusively TM population. Regardless of what it would show, with the focus TM communities should have on perfection or at least everyone living a good life, one TM suicide is too many. And while that may not be a realistic goal, I hope you know that the kinds of attitude shift that would open things up for real dialogue, real conversations and real actions that are not (and I do not mean to be unkind in saying this) that are not tied to glorifying the Movement and putting money in their pockets. Dead or alive I don't care about Maharishi. I
Re: [FairfieldLife] Word to Buck about TM Suicides - Was Maharishi: As we take care of ourself, the world will take of itself for us on that level
Michael, people are already coming together to discuss these issues and take action. You were told this a few weeks ago. On Wednesday, August 27, 2014 1:20 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Re read dear - I am ignoring nothing, but you are ignoring my asking people to come together. Open your mind dear. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Word to Buck about TM Suicides - Was Maharishi: As we take care of ourself, the world will take of itself for us on that level Michael, your allegations about TMO ignoring mental health challenges are still very much out of date. Moreover, you were told details about how the TMO is dealing with these issues just a few weeks ago. Today you are ignoring all that info. On Wednesday, August 27, 2014 8:00 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Omm - in a normal population, your contention would be accurate. But with the superlatives claimed for TM and TMSP, esp TMSP in groups, TM suicides should never happen. To acknowledge that suicides happen among long term TM practitioners is to to tacitly acknowledge the PR with which TM and TMSP is sold to the public is in fact dishonest. I would very much love it if the practice of TM had no side effects, and would love it even more if the end results and benefits for TM and TMSP were in fact what was claimed for it. We would be living in a much better happier world if that were the case. My contention is that the TMO needs to own up to the truth about what can happen amongst TM'ers or at least stop touting TM as a cure all for all the worlds ills which is what they essentially do. It is dishonest or perhaps an avoidance behavior to not acknowledge the things that can happen. Anyone who spent any time working at any TM facility all have stories of those who had to leave in the middle of the night or were sent home by the TMO for their strange behavior, plus the attempted and successful suicides. If you are really as hopeful and concerned about the well being of TM'ers as I think you are, it would be a fine first step to begin to acknowledge the down side to TM and long term TMSP. That's all I'm saying. The culture of ignoring the incidents or worse blaming the victims, those who killed themselves or tried to is one of the things that is stifling the Movement itself. What I am suggesting is that current and former TM'ers all join together to be open and honest about these things and extend our hands to those who are suffering from mental/emotional states that may lead to suicide or have led to suicide attempts in the past. The TMO status quo to counsel getting the meditation and sutra practice checked or to have a yagya done just isn't cutting it. An until it becomes ok in TM communities like Fairfield for people to openly acknowledge that are NOT feeling good, they are not in bliss that they have problems suicides and fracturing of the Movement will continue. You know very well that in places like MIU or Vedic Villages if people voice their problems they are looked down on or looked askance at, as if they are off the program, which is about all the TMO is willing to admit might be a problem. And they are not offered the help they need. While it is true that suicides affect all races, religions, etc suicides among TM practitioners must be handled with greater care, and those who are at risk for such behavior need more help perhaps than those in non-TM populations just because of the stigma attached to not being in a place within yourself and acknowledging that place to the world that all is bliss and your life is wonderful because of TM. This is a legacy of Maharishi and one the Movement has a financial interest in maintaining. Even when I was a self styled TM fanatic, one of the things I didn't like about the Movement was its habit of redirecting everyone's attention to TM. No one in the TM community could do ANYTHING without it being an example of TM's bright shiny nature. And yet if someone did something like pull an Ed Beckley, it had nothing to do with TM. This is simply a dishonest point of view and one which does not serve the TM community, nor the larger non TM community with which you interact. The statistics may show Fairfield no different in terms of suicides but statistics have never been compiled for an exclusively TM population. Regardless of what it would show, with the focus TM communities should have on perfection or at least everyone living a good life, one TM suicide is too many. And while that may not be a realistic goal, I hope you know that the kinds of attitude shift that would
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: US Bombs Own Vehicles and Weapons
A good reason to dump religions then... all religions. They are nothing but trouble. But then what percentage of Muslims are actually faithful Muslims? On 08/27/2014 11:09 AM, emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: You are all under-educated about Islamic history - especially of the actual deeds of the prophet. These are all faithful Muslims who are doing exactly what their prophet did - and in the same way. If possible (Allah willing as they say), they will do it to all of us. Death by beheading or by AK execution for the men and sexual slavery for the good-looking women. The ordinary women will just be household slaves - if they even survive at all.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Sally Kempton: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 08/26/2014
Sweet, Rick. Just the kinda place I'd like to pull in to top up while on a Road Trip. In my mind I envision encountering this place after pulling off the road in some gawdawful Nowhere in the middle of the Northwestern New Mexico desert, miles from the nearest town, and finding it to be (to my surprise) a Safe Haven. :-) Given my somewhat...uh...odd tastes and proclivities, I imagine the rest stop part of this Safe Haven gas station as a kind of cross between a Tantric Temple in the Himalayas, a truck stop whorehouse along any major road in America, and a convenience store, in which one can not only buy highly-caffeinated drinks to fuel one's ongoing journey, but various medicinal herbs and potions as well. Cash only, because you're Just Passing Through, and who knows whether there will be anything left of you when the credit card bill comes due. :-) From: 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 8:09 PM Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Sally Kempton: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 08/26/2014 Yes, relatively new. A listener in the UK made it for me. Can be downloaded in various sizes at http://batgap.com/aboutus/fan-resources/, as can batgap theme song, written by Vaj, to use as ring tone. From:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 11:44 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Sally Kempton: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 08/26/2014 Nice graphic. Is that new? From:'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com; fairfieldc...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 6:41 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Sally Kempton: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 08/26/2014 If you are not doing so already, please consider donating a few dollars a month to help offset basic expenses associated with hosting, MailChimp, etc. Of course, larger donations for other expenses are very much appreciated and needed. Donate button on http://batgap.com. Updates from Buddha at the Gas Pump Interviews with Ordinary Spiritually Awakened People New interview posted 08/26/2014: * 247. Sally Kempton 247. Sally Kempton By Rick on Aug 25, 2014 06:18 pm Sally Kempton is a deeply practiced teacher of meditation and spiritual philosophy, and the author of the books Meditation for the Love of It and Awakening Shakti: as well as the audio course Doorways to the Infinite, recently put out … Continue reading → The post 247. Sally Kempton appeared first on Buddha at the Gas Pump. Read in browser » Recent Interviews: 246. Shinzen Young 245. Āloka David Smith 244. Dan Harris 243. Linda Clair 242. David Hoffmeister Copyright © 2014 Buddha at the Gas Pump, All rights reserved. Regular announcement of new interviews posted at http://batgap.com. Our mailing address is: Buddha at the Gas Pump 1108 South B Street Fairfield, Iowa 52556 Add us to your address book
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: US Bombs Own Vehicles and Weapons
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : A good reason to dump religions then... all religions. They are nothing but trouble. Richard Dawkins has been trying to persuade people to do this for years but has found it a tough sell, much to his surprise, but nobody elses. He thinks the more logically correct and provable a theory is about life the sooner it will displace inferior superstitious ideas, and will then be adopted as the de facto standard simply because of its intellectual superiority. He didn't figure with real people though, who tend not to be so logical and if they are brought up believing something it's as hard to forget as the first language you're taught. And then there's the promise of eternal life, which evolution by natural selection can't hold a candle to. Religion? We're stuck with it. But then what percentage of Muslims are actually faithful Muslims? I think praying five times a day is unlikely to be common. The slightly more devout go to friday prayers but I still think the average Muslim is more religious than the average Christian. On 08/27/2014 11:09 AM, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: You are all under-educated about Islamic history - especially of the actual deeds of the prophet. These are all faithful Muslims who are doing exactly what their prophet did - and in the same way. If possible (Allah willing as they say), they will do it to all of us. Death by beheading or by AK execution for the men and sexual slavery for the good-looking women. The ordinary women will just be household slaves - if they even survive at all.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Vedic eye-patch wearers take note...
Don't worry, the new Prime Minister, a student of the most illustrious Master of modern times, has started a very neccessary cleanup by living by example and rooting out the most pressing problem; corruption. India has a very bright future indeed. Biography of Narendra Modi : Family, Early days in Politics, Criticisms, Awards and Recognitions http://www.mapsofindia.com/who-is-who/government-politics/narendra-modi.html http://www.mapsofindia.com/who-is-who/government-politics/narendra-modi.html Biography of Narendra Modi : Family, Early days in Polit... http://www.mapsofindia.com/who-is-who/government-politics/narendra-modi.html Biography of Narendra Modi: Find information about Family, Early days in Politics, First Stint as Chief Minister of Gujarat, Criticisms, Awards and Recogn... View on www.mapsofindia.com http://www.mapsofindia.com/who-is-who/government-politics/narendra-modi.html Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Sounds like India is on another fascism kick. It's always been a corrupt country, sorta the Mexico of Asia. I read India's copyright act a little while back and it is quite a joke. On 08/26/2014 10:45 PM, salyavin808 wrote: Don't go pirating those Bollywood classics! We the goondas - Bangalore Mirror http://www.bangaloremirror.com/bangalore/cover-story/We-the-goondas/articleshow/39564603.cms We the goondas - Bangalore Mirror You can now be arrested in Karnataka even before you commit an offence under the IT Act. You could be in jail under the Goonda Act even if not guilty under the ... View on www.bangaloremirro... Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] So What Do You do?
On 8/27/2014 10:17 AM, danfriedman2002 wrote: Impressive, so perhaps you can help. For starters please clarify what you mean by Slice the vegetables on the bias because I just will not discriminate against any vegetable, green or blue, because vegetables are my friends. Slicing vegetable on the bias is an old teaching that we learned from George Ohasawa, the founder of the Macrobiotic diet and philosophy and Michio and Aveline Kushi who helped to introduce modern macrobiotics to the United States. Sanpaku (three-spaces empty) refers to traditional Japanese physiognomic diagnosis in which eyes can be seen to present a white area below as well as to each side of the iris when viewed straight on. Slicing on the bias refers to cutting at an angle - one of the requirements in cooking the macrobiotic way. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 8/27/2014 8:58 AM, danfriedman2002 wrote: I got the Deluxe Browser now. See the brownies below... I do admit though, Hole Foods does have good brownies! We love brownies from Whole Foods, but unfortunately on our current diet, we can't eat many because of the sugar content. We don't consume processed sugar anymore and we have cut way down on our carbohydrate consumption as well. We are currently working on limiting our dairy intake which is very difficult. But, we know a couple that has managed to eliminate all dairy products from their diet. We still eat cooked food but we eat raw food as well, such as salads. We only eat out about once a week these days because most prepared foods are good tasting but also contain other unknown and unsavory ingredients. Our basic food philosophy is /keep it simple/. Here is our basic recipe for making soup: Ingredients: 1. Vegetables. 2. Water. Directions: In a pot, bring water to a boil. Slice the vegetables on the bias.Add the cut vegetables to the pot. Cover and simmer until the vegetables are soft. Add seasoning to taste. /Soup made with organic vegetables and filtered water cooked on low heat./ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : On 8/27/2014 8:16 AM, danfriedman2002 wrote: Yes, f the observer is still vibrational, the observed is known only as a solid object and appears to be essentially different from other forms of matter. According to A.J. Bahm, objects appear in consciousness as wholes, or gestalts. They enter experience already made. Some unconscious or subconscious process determines our conscious experiences for us, even though we can never become aware of it. The mystery of consciousness may never be explained satisfactorily,Consciousness is The Simplest Thing. but it is obvious, to those who reflect, that something happens within us to make us see things the way we do. This something must be taken into account in explaining the nature of knowledge. Experience! Perhaps the most startling construction is that of consciousness itself. The intellect is only a part of the mind and thus, blind to wholeness. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : On 8/26/2014 6:54 PM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Michael, that bliss is an isness. It is not a thereness as in, you are already there. Everything is useless and nothing is useless. You are that bliss, mantra is that bliss. Bliss alone is. Even the questions are bliss. In fact they make the bubbles of bliss rise up into laughter. In my experience... It is obvious that different people may not see the same object as it is, but may perceive different objects when confronted by the same stimulus source. We fail to take into account the /constructed character of knowing/. The term constructed character of knowing may be used to name the synthesizing process that goes on in the brain before experiences are produced. The various nervous impulses do not appear in consciousness to be knowingly assembled or constructed into an object. On Tuesday, August 26, 2014 6:48 PM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: So what do you do when you decide to meditate and suddenly the bliss becomes all there is. I mean the kind of bliss where you know that you are that, and that's all you are and everybody even your
[FairfieldLife] David Lynch's Ice Bucket Challenge video
David Lynch's Ice Bucket Challenge video is very Lynchian http://www.theverge.com/2014/8/27/6074595/david-lynchs-ice-bucket-challenge-video-is-very-lynchian http://www.theverge.com/2014/8/27/6074595/david-lynchs-ice-bucket-challenge-video-is-very-lynchian David Lynch's Ice Bucket Challenge video is very Lyn... http://www.theverge.com/2014/8/27/6074595/david-lynchs-ice-bucket-challenge-video-is-very-lynchian The camera opens on a man in a fully buttoned black shirt standing in front of a red wall, squinting into the sun. He pours a shot of espresso into a metal bucket, ... View on www.theverge.com http://www.theverge.com/2014/8/27/6074595/david-lynchs-ice-bucket-challenge-video-is-very-lynchian Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: US Bombs Own Vehicles and Weapons
Yep - that worked so well for Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot. The Tibetans must certainly agree with you. But then what else to expect out of Oakland? The real problem is Semitic Monotheism, whether Jew, Christian or Muslim. Messianic Communism was simply an offshoot of Marxist Historical Pseudo-Christianity and still draws European and American intellectuals today. Wait until I.S. gets hold of Paki nukes. Then it will be New York, Washington DC, Chicago, Bay Area and of course Austin - cause they've heard about the dangerous blasphemer, Prairie Dog, working at a community college there. Better have a good Loka to go to 'cause this place is gonna be toast.
Gettin' Into Dodge (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Sally Kempton: New Interview)
OK, just for fun, and to prove that not all of my flights of fancy are *entirely* from my own private store of fancy, I have to tell a story. I was driving cross country in the U.S. with my best friend and former lover, and pulled into Dodge City, Kansas late one night. Winging it, as was our wont while on Road Trips, we had made no firm plans, and thus had no reservations at a place at which to pass the night. Driving along the main strip and seeing No Vacancy on every motel sign, I was starting to lose hope, but then I saw one last motel. It was one of those combo Southwestern Motels, with a small parking lot for auto traffic, and a somewhat larger parking lot for truckers. And its sign actually said Vacancy. I pulled in, found that there was only one room available, and booked it. We checked in, and then -- having heard from the desk clerk that there was no other restaurant in Dodge City open at this late hour, walked over to the restaurant, where we enjoyed a fairly acceptable meal. But as we sat there, I noticed that there was a door at the back of the restaurant, and that many of the truckers, after they had finished their dinner, left a nice tip for the waitress but then, rather than retire to the comfort of their rooms or the cabs of their trucks for the night, walked to this door, said something, and were allowed inside. None of them emerged, during the period when my friend and I were finishing our dinners. I was hooked, curiosity having gotten the better of me, and so when we *did* finish, I walked over to this door and asked the bouncer whether we could go in. He hemmed and hawed and stammered for a few minutes. It was clear that the vast majority of real, everyday, American tourists who had dined here had never made such a request of him. I asked again, he looked at us deeply and seemed to sense something of an affinity there, and let us in. It was the gaudiest whorehouse I've ever seen in my entire life. Velvet Elvis paintings on the walls, only pornographic, with Elvis doing women of all shapes and colors. Red velvet couches, red velvet curtains, the whole bit. Truckers sitting around eyeing the merchandise, which consisted of fairly attractive local beauties here to earn enough money to enable them to (dare I say it) Get The Hell Outa Dodge. We had a couple of drinks and just watched the show for a while, and then thanked our hosts and returned to our room. But what a trip, eh? A normal-looking motel, along a normal-looking highway in fuckin' Kansas, and yet just Behind The Green Door (literally) in the restaurant was a serious whorehouse. I can only hope that the lonely truckers who sought comfort there found some. I certainly did, and I didn't even partake of the merchandise. :-) From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 8:45 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Sally Kempton: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 08/26/2014 Sweet, Rick. Just the kinda place I'd like to pull in to top up while on a Road Trip. In my mind I envision encountering this place after pulling off the road in some gawdawful Nowhere in the middle of the Northwestern New Mexico desert, miles from the nearest town, and finding it to be (to my surprise) a Safe Haven. :-) Given my somewhat...uh...odd tastes and proclivities, I imagine the rest stop part of this Safe Haven gas station as a kind of cross between a Tantric Temple in the Himalayas, a truck stop whorehouse along any major road in America, and a convenience store, in which one can not only buy highly-caffeinated drinks to fuel one's ongoing journey, but various medicinal herbs and potions as well. Cash only, because you're Just Passing Through, and who knows whether there will be anything left of you when the credit card bill comes due. :-) From: 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 8:09 PM Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Sally Kempton: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 08/26/2014 Yes, relatively new. A listener in the UK made it for me. Can be downloaded in various sizes at http://batgap.com/aboutus/fan-resources/, as can batgap theme song, written by Vaj, to use as ring tone. From:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 11:44 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Sally Kempton: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 08/26/2014 Nice graphic. Is that new? From:'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com;
Re: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch's Ice Bucket Challenge video
Kind of interesting situation. As I have heard , one dumps the water over one's head *or* forfits and has to give money to fight ALS. Seems the cowards are the more generous. On Wednesday, August 27, 2014 12:04 PM, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: David Lynch's Ice Bucket Challenge video is very Lynchian David Lynch's Ice Bucket Challenge video is very Lyn... The camera opens on a man in a fully buttoned black shirt standing in front of a red wall, squinting into the sun. He pours a shot of espresso into a metal bucket, ... View on www.theverge.com Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Awake: The Life Of Yogananda - Rotten Tomatoes
On 8/27/2014 10:19 AM, danfriedman2002 wrote: I was with Swami Satchitananda. We took several yoga classes with the Swami when we lived in Los Angeles and helped him establish one of the first yoga ashrams in L.A. We were close friends with the Swami's leading students, Thomas Rich, who later moved to Colorado and became Chögyam Trungpa's Vajra Regent and the first Western lineage holder in the Tibetan Karma Kagyü and Nyingma lineages. We knew when we lived in Boulder for a year. This didn't work out too well, but that's another story. Read more: /'The Double Mirror: A Skeptical Journey into Buddhist Tantra'/ by Stephen T. Butterfield North Atlantic Books, 1994 Woodstock lives! Rocks on ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 8/27/2014 9:37 AM, wgm4u wrote: Thanks Rick-That link didn't work (for me) but here it is on Youtube. I think Yogananda truly was a God-man and I think he knew about ALL the techniques of meditation, including TM or mantra-japa. He teaches Kriya which works directly with the prana or life force, not indirectly like TM. It is more difficult but more reliable in the long run, IMHO. We were members of the SRF before starting TM in 1967 and were frequent visitors to the Mt. Washington center in L.A.. The meditation is very similar to TM practice and includes the use of a mantra called the hong sau as well as being aware of the sound current. It is a reliable yoga practice but I seem to be more attuned to my TM technique, probably due to the benefit of direct contact with teachers like Jerry Jarvis and MMY - which seems to have added the requisite /shakti/ element to my program. Awake: The Life of Yogananda Official Trailer 1 (2014) - Documentary HD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyLkg3uDe1c image https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyLkg3uDe1c Awake: The Life of Yogananda Official Trailer 1... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyLkg3uDe1c Subscribe to TRAILERS: http://bit.ly/sxaw6h Subscribe to COMING SOON: http://bit.ly/H2vZUn Subscribe to INDIE TRAILERS: http://goo.gl/iPUuo Li... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyLkg3uDe1c Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch's Ice Bucket Challenge video
What is this ice bucket challenge thing? It's all I've heard about all week. Must be exciting. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : David Lynch's Ice Bucket Challenge video is very Lynchian http://www.theverge.com/2014/8/27/6074595/david-lynchs-ice-bucket-challenge-video-is-very-lynchian http://www.theverge.com/2014/8/27/6074595/david-lynchs-ice-bucket-challenge-video-is-very-lynchian David Lynch's Ice Bucket Challenge video is very Lyn... http://www.theverge.com/2014/8/27/6074595/david-lynchs-ice-bucket-challenge-video-is-very-lynchian The camera opens on a man in a fully buttoned black shirt standing in front of a red wall, squinting into the sun. He pours a shot of espresso into a metal bucket, ... View on www.theverge.com http://www.theverge.com/2014/8/27/6074595/david-lynchs-ice-bucket-challenge-video-is-very-lynchian Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Awake: The Life Of Yogananda - Rotten Tomatoes
Whatever happened to the 14 yr old boy that the Vajra Regent knowingly infected with AIDS. Is he still living?
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Awake: The Life Of Yogananda - Rotten Tomatoes
Who is the Vajra Regent? From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 2:23 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Awake: The Life Of Yogananda - Rotten Tomatoes Whatever happened to the 14 yr old boy that the Vajra Regent knowingly infected with AIDS. Is he still living?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: US Bombs Own Vehicles and Weapons
Mike, The problem is not necessarily the cowardice of the Iraqi army. It all depends on who the members of that army were in northern Iraq. If most of the army members were Sunnis, then it would stand to reason that they were not going to resist their own brothers in faith. The Iraqi army generals probably thought that it would be more acceptable to have Sunnis in the army to patrol their own homeland. But the generals failed to realize that tribal ties are still stronger than the national government. When ISIS came to town, the army members on patrol melted away in support of their brothers in faith. If the members of the army on patrol were Shiites, they did not resist since the people in northern Iraq are not part of their tribe and not their brothers in faith. It all comes down to tribalism, power, money and ignorance. And, one finds the product of evil, death and destruction. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : The Iraqi army officers and enlisted were cowards. They feared being on the losing side and in their part of the world,. especially when dealing with Islam, that means losing your head. Better be safe and melt away, live to fight another day or melt away again. On Wednesday, August 27, 2014 9:39 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Salyavin, IMO, ISIS and the Sunnis are one and the same. The so called militants are the Sunni fighters at night, figuratively speaking, and during the daylight they become the residents of the towns doing their ordinary tasks. Obama is correct in saying that this problem is an Iraqi problem. They have to let the democratic process take hold in their own culture and understanding. And who are the victims? The minority people of Iraq, including the Christians, who are attempting to live in peace in a troubled land. In the meantime, the kabal that is funding this mayhem is rejoicing in the money they're making by selling barrels of oil at very high prices to Europe, the USA and the rest of the world. Is this evil or what? Yup. I do think the whole cock-up is our fault, from the end of the Ottaman empire onwards we've connived and meddled in their affairs and finally in 2003 we set this little ball rolling. So I disagree that the Iraqi problem is theirs alone. We trashed their country and set up a hopeless puppet government that has failed miserably, there was hardly a thought for the aftermath in Blair's messianic vision of himself as the Iraqi saviour. When you break something you should pay for it. It isn't like they weren't warned, it isn't like this shit always happens... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : This is such an absurd turn of events. Why did the Iraqi army give up so easily against ISIS? IMO, the Iraqi army was infiltrated with sympathizers of ISIS. The officers of the army were probably paid off by ISIS to run away with their subordinates and leave the American vehicles and equipment to the militants. Maybe they were just scared? Maybe the US should put self-destruct devices in their next bunch of free gifts to the middle east.. It appears that the Iraqi army does not want to fight and are willing to be subjugated by the militants. In the end, they are willing to let the Christians and other minorities to be killed as sacrifices to the militant overlords. U.S. Airstrikes Destroy Millions Of Dollars In U.S.-Made Arms In Iraq http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/26/us-military-weapons-iraq_n_5718099.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0592 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/26/us-military-weapons-iraq_n_5718099.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0592 U.S. Airstrikes Destroy Millions Of Dollars In U.S http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/26/us-military-weapons-iraq_n_5718099.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0592 By Missy Ryan WASHINGTON, Aug 26 (Reuters) - The grainy black-and-white footage shows a military vehicle, a small dark mass in the crosshairs of a U.S. w... View on www.huffingtonpos... Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: US Bombs Own Vehicles and Weapons
On 08/27/2014 11:57 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : A good reason to dump religions then... all religions. They are nothing but trouble. Richard Dawkins has been trying to persuade people to do this for years but has found it a tough sell, much to his surprise, but nobody elses. He thinks the more logically correct and provable a theory is about life the sooner it will displace inferior superstitious ideas, and will then be adopted as the de facto standard simply because of its intellectual superiority. He didn't figure with real people though, who tend not to be so logical and if they are brought up believing something it's as hard to forget as the first language you're taught. And then there's the promise of eternal life, which evolution by natural selection can't hold a candle to. I know a scientist who has fun giving me a hard time on Sundays about astrology that is before he heads off to church. Go figger. Religion? We're stuck with it. But then what percentage of Muslims are actually faithful Muslims? I think praying five times a day is unlikely to be common. The slightly more devout go to friday prayers but I still think the average Muslim is more religious than the average Christian. Like I have mentioned before I knew someone born into a Muslim family. When I asked her about Islam she said she didn't know anything about it because the family never practiced it. There are millions of Americans when asked if Christian might say so but if the next question is how often do you go to church might answer not since Sunday school when I was a child. In my family only my maternal grandmother attended church and was a Methodist. I was sent to Sunday school probably at age 5 but that lasted about a month. Later I attended to get a scout badge and then that was over. I was already a fan of Sarte by then. :-D My summation of religion as a child was weird stories and corny music. On 08/27/2014 11:09 AM, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: You are all under-educated about Islamic history - especially of the actual deeds of the prophet. These are all faithful Muslims who are doing exactly what their prophet did - and in the same way. If possible (Allah willing as they say), they will do it to all of us. Death by beheading or by AK execution for the men and sexual slavery for the good-looking women. The ordinary women will just be household slaves - if they even survive at all.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: US Bombs Own Vehicles and Weapons
On 8/27/2014 11:12 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Salyavin, IMO, ISIS and the Sunnis are one and the same. The so called militants are the Sunni fighters at night, figuratively speaking, and during the daylight they become the residents of the towns doing their ordinary tasks. Obama is correct in saying that this problem is an Iraqi problem. They have to let the democratic process take hold in their own culture and understanding. And who are the victims? The minority people of Iraq, including the Christians, who are attempting to live in peace in a troubled land. In the meantime, the kabal that is funding this mayhem is rejoicing in the money they're making by selling barrels of oil at very high prices to Europe, the USA and the rest of the world. Is this evil or what? According to what I've read, the U.S. does not import any oil for refining from Iraq - we are 97% energy independent at this point. The lack of oil resources will affect Europe more than the U.S. and Europe may be the first set of countries to be restricted in energy resources when and if Russia starts shutting off the pipeline and sells oil and gas instead to China. Unless some radical changes in foreign policy are implemented it doesn't look good to the EU. Maybe it's time for the NATO countries to really beef up their national defense. The problem is that the ISIS wants to establish a training camp for insurgents to attack the west as a base of operations. Needless to say, this is a huge problem if they are able to obtain weapons of mass destruction. The bigger problem is the Islamic radicalization of the nuclear armed countries of Iran and Pakistan. It may be that we will have to go in there with boots on the ground with allied forces in order to prevent a nuclear attack. Maybe in the future the entire Middle East will become fenced off entirely from the rest of the civilized world - similar to the Gaza Strip. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : This is such an absurd turn of events. Why did the Iraqi army give up so easily against ISIS? IMO, the Iraqi army was infiltrated with sympathizers of ISIS. The officers of the army were probably paid off by ISIS to run away with their subordinates and leave the American vehicles and equipment to the militants. Maybe they were just scared? Maybe the US should put self-destruct devices in their next bunch of free gifts to the middle east.. It appears that the Iraqi army does not want to fight and are willing to be subjugated by the militants. In the end, they are willing to let the Christians and other minorities to be killed as sacrifices to the militant overlords. U.S. Airstrikes Destroy Millions Of Dollars In U.S.-Made Arms In Iraq http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/26/us-military-weapons-iraq_n_5718099.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0592 image http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/26/us-military-weapons-iraq_n_5718099.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0592 U.S. Airstrikes Destroy Millions Of Dollars In U.S http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/26/us-military-weapons-iraq_n_5718099.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0592 By Missy Ryan WASHINGTON, Aug 26 (Reuters) - The grainy black-and-white footage shows a military vehicle, a small dark mass in the crosshairs of a U.S. w... View on www.huffingtonpos... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/26/us-military-weapons-iraq_n_5718099.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0592 Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Vedic eye-patch wearers take note...
I like to say that Romney lost the election because he was going to ban porn. Stupid platform and the issue is much broader than porn as it was a battle for freedom of speech. Likewise over the last half century since the Brits left India has become increasingly modern and liberalized. These measures are not going to go over well with young Indians. Read the comments in the article Salyvin posted and you'll see that is the case. It's the economy, particularly economic disparity, that needs to be addressed in India. On 08/27/2014 11:58 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote: Don't worry, the new Prime Minister, a student of the most illustrious Master of modern times, has started a very neccessary cleanup by living by example and rooting out the most pressing problem; corruption. India has a very bright future indeed. Biography of Narendra Modi : Family, Early days in Politics, Criticisms, Awards and Recognitions http://www.mapsofindia.com/who-is-who/government-politics/narendra-modi.html image http://www.mapsofindia.com/who-is-who/government-politics/narendra-modi.html Biography of Narendra Modi : Family, Early days in Polit... http://www.mapsofindia.com/who-is-who/government-politics/narendra-modi.html Biography of Narendra Modi: Find information about Family, Early days in Politics, First Stint as Chief Minister of Gujarat, Criticisms, Awards and Recogn... View on www.mapsofindia.com http://www.mapsofindia.com/who-is-who/government-politics/narendra-modi.html Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Sounds like India is on another fascism kick. It's always been a corrupt country, sorta the Mexico of Asia. I read India's copyright act a little while back and it is quite a joke. On 08/26/2014 10:45 PM, salyavin808 wrote: Don't go pirating those Bollywood classics! We the goondas - Bangalore Mirror http://www.bangaloremirror.com/bangalore/cover-story/We-the-goondas/articleshow/39564603.cms image http://www.bangaloremirror.com/bangalore/cover-story/We-the-goondas/articleshow/39564603.cms We the goondas - Bangalore Mirror http://www.bangaloremirror.com/bangalore/cover-story/We-the-goondas/articleshow/39564603.cms You can now be arrested in Karnataka even before you commit an offence under the IT Act. You could be in jail under the Goonda Act even if not guilty under the ... View on www.bangaloremirro... http://www.bangaloremirror.com/bangalore/cover-story/We-the-goondas/articleshow/39564603.cms Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: US Bombs Own Vehicles and Weapons
Emptybill, The problem is due to fundamentalism which leads to violence. IOW, since one faction thinks they right, then the enemy must be against the will Allah and must be killed. In short, this is ignorance and must be shown to everyone as such. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote : You are all under-educated about Islamic history - especially of the actual deeds of the prophet. These are all faithful Muslims who are doing exactly what their prophet did - and in the same way. If possible (Allah willing as they say), they will do it to all of us. Death by beheading or by AK execution for the men and sexual slavery for the good-looking women. The ordinary women will just be household slaves - if they even survive at all.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: US Bombs Own Vehicles and Weapons
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : On 08/27/2014 11:57 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : I know a scientist who has fun giving me a hard time on Sundays about astrology that is before he heads off to church. Go figger. = No comment ;-) = Like I have mentioned before I knew someone born into a Muslim family. When I asked her about Islam she said she didn't know anything about it because the family never practiced it. There are millions of Americans when asked if Christian might say so but if the next question is how often do you go to church might answer not since Sunday school when I was a child. In my family only my maternal grandmother attended church and was a Methodist. I was sent to Sunday school probably at age 5 but that lasted about a month. Later I attended to get a scout badge and then that was over. I was already a fan of Sarte by then. :-D My summation of religion as a child was weird stories and corny music. = I read this week that some English lads had gone off to Syria to join the jihad against their Muslim brothers persecutors. Police investigating whether they might come back as full blown terrorists had checked their computers for signs that they had been radicalised and found that the last thing they had purchased was a copy of The Koran for Dummies. Honestly. No Friday prayers for these guys... On 08/27/2014 11:09 AM, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: You are all under-educated about Islamic history - especially of the actual deeds of the prophet. These are all faithful Muslims who are doing exactly what their prophet did - and in the same way. If possible (Allah willing as they say), they will do it to all of us. Death by beheading or by AK execution for the men and sexual slavery for the good-looking women. The ordinary women will just be household slaves - if they even survive at all.
Re: Gettin' Into Dodge (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Sally Kempton: New Interview)
It's interesting to note that in the Bible Belt you will find such establishments and strip bars far more than you will in the Blue States. There was actually some statistical studies that proved it too. The only time I visited Fairfield I flew into Iowa City and staying overnight at a hotel by the airport looked in the phone directory to see what the local entertainment was. Prominently listed was a gentleman's club. On 08/27/2014 12:10 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: OK, just for fun, and to prove that not all of my flights of fancy are *entirely* from my own private store of fancy, I have to tell a story. I was driving cross country in the U.S. with my best friend and former lover, and pulled into Dodge City, Kansas late one night. Winging it, as was our wont while on Road Trips, we had made no firm plans, and thus had no reservations at a place at which to pass the night. Driving along the main strip and seeing No Vacancy on every motel sign, I was starting to lose hope, but then I saw one last motel. It was one of those combo Southwestern Motels, with a small parking lot for auto traffic, and a somewhat larger parking lot for truckers. And its sign actually said Vacancy. I pulled in, found that there was only one room available, and booked it. We checked in, and then -- having heard from the desk clerk that there was no other restaurant in Dodge City open at this late hour, walked over to the restaurant, where we enjoyed a fairly acceptable meal. But as we sat there, I noticed that there was a door at the back of the restaurant, and that many of the truckers, after they had finished their dinner, left a nice tip for the waitress but then, rather than retire to the comfort of their rooms or the cabs of their trucks for the night, walked to this door, said something, and were allowed inside. None of them emerged, during the period when my friend and I were finishing our dinners. I was hooked, curiosity having gotten the better of me, and so when we *did* finish, I walked over to this door and asked the bouncer whether we could go in. He hemmed and hawed and stammered for a few minutes. It was clear that the vast majority of real, everyday, American tourists who had dined here had never made such a request of him. I asked again, he looked at us deeply and seemed to sense something of an affinity there, and let us in. It was the gaudiest whorehouse I've ever seen in my entire life. Velvet Elvis paintings on the walls, only pornographic, with Elvis doing women of all shapes and colors. Red velvet couches, red velvet curtains, the whole bit. Truckers sitting around eyeing the merchandise, which consisted of fairly attractive local beauties here to earn enough money to enable them to (dare I say it) Get The Hell Outa Dodge. We had a couple of drinks and just watched the show for a while, and then thanked our hosts and returned to our room. But what a trip, eh? A normal-looking motel, along a normal-looking highway in fuckin' Kansas, and yet just Behind The Green Door (literally) in the restaurant was a serious whorehouse. I can only hope that the lonely truckers who sought comfort there found some. I certainly did, and I didn't even partake of the merchandise. :-) *From:* TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, August 27, 2014 8:45 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Sally Kempton: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 08/26/2014 Sweet, Rick. Just the kinda place I'd like to pull in to top up while on a Road Trip. In my mind I envision encountering this place after pulling off the road in some gawdawful Nowhere in the middle of the Northwestern New Mexico desert, miles from the nearest town, and finding it to be (to my surprise) a Safe Haven. :-) Given my somewhat...uh...odd tastes and proclivities, I imagine the rest stop part of this Safe Haven gas station as a kind of cross between a Tantric Temple in the Himalayas, a truck stop whorehouse along any major road in America, and a convenience store, in which one can not only buy highly-caffeinated drinks to fuel one's ongoing journey, but various medicinal herbs and potions as well. Cash only, because you're Just Passing Through, and who knows whether there will be anything left of you when the credit card bill comes due. :-) *From:* 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, August 27, 2014 8:09 PM *Subject:* RE: [FairfieldLife] Sally Kempton: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 08/26/2014 Yes, relatively new. A listener in the UK made it for me. Can be downloaded in
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: US Bombs Own Vehicles and Weapons
I see, it's always the commies fault. Is it ever the capitalist's fault? On 08/27/2014 12:11 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Yep - that worked so well for Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot. The Tibetans must certainly agree with you. But then what else to expect out of Oakland? The real problem is Semitic Monotheism, whether Jew, Christian or Muslim. Messianic Communism was simply an offshoot of Marxist Historical Pseudo-Christianity and still draws European and American intellectuals today. Wait until I.S. gets hold of Paki nukes. Then it will be New York, Washington DC, Chicago, Bay Area and of course Austin - cause they've heard about the dangerous blasphemer, Prairie Dog, working at a community college there. Better have a good Loka to go to 'cause this place is gonna be toast.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch's Ice Bucket Challenge video
Quite a chilling experience. On 08/27/2014 12:18 PM, salyavin808 wrote: What is this ice bucket challenge thing? It's all I've heard about all week. Must be exciting. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : David Lynch's Ice Bucket Challenge video is very Lynchian http://www.theverge.com/2014/8/27/6074595/david-lynchs-ice-bucket-challenge-video-is-very-lynchian image http://www.theverge.com/2014/8/27/6074595/david-lynchs-ice-bucket-challenge-video-is-very-lynchian David Lynch's Ice Bucket Challenge video is very Lyn... http://www.theverge.com/2014/8/27/6074595/david-lynchs-ice-bucket-challenge-video-is-very-lynchian The camera opens on a man in a fully buttoned black shirt standing in front of a red wall, squinting into the sun. He pours a shot of espresso into a metal bucket, ... View on www.theverge.com http://www.theverge.com/2014/8/27/6074595/david-lynchs-ice-bucket-challenge-video-is-very-lynchian Preview by Yahoo
Re: Gettin' Into Dodge (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Sally Kempton: New Interview)
I've actually forgotten the name of this particular Dodge City motel, but as I remember it was called the Something Something Motel And Conference Center. The last part really amused me. Having figured out what it really was, I could imagine guys all over the Southwest bidding their wives farewell as they went off to their yearly (or monthly) conference at this hotel. :-) From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 9:41 PM Subject: Re: Gettin' Into Dodge (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Sally Kempton: New Interview) It's interesting to note that in the Bible Belt you will find such establishments and strip bars far more than you will in the Blue States. There was actually some statistical studies that proved it too. The only time I visited Fairfield I flew into Iowa City and staying overnight at a hotel by the airport looked in the phone directory to see what the local entertainment was. Prominently listed was a gentleman's club. On 08/27/2014 12:10 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: OK, just for fun, and to prove that not all of my flights of fancy are *entirely* from my own private store of fancy, I have to tell a story. I was driving cross country in the U.S. with my best friend and former lover, and pulled into Dodge City, Kansas late one night. Winging it, as was our wont while on Road Trips, we had made no firm plans, and thus had no reservations at a place at which to pass the night. Driving along the main strip and seeing No Vacancy on every motel sign, I was starting to lose hope, but then I saw one last motel. It was one of those combo Southwestern Motels, with a small parking lot for auto traffic, and a somewhat larger parking lot for truckers. And its sign actually said Vacancy. I pulled in, found that there was only one room available, and booked it. We checked in, and then -- having heard from the desk clerk that there was no other restaurant in Dodge City open at this late hour, walked over to the restaurant, where we enjoyed a fairly acceptable meal. But as we sat there, I noticed that there was a door at the back of the restaurant, and that many of the truckers, after they had finished their dinner, left a nice tip for the waitress but then, rather than retire to the comfort of their rooms or the cabs of their trucks for the night, walked to this door, said something, and were allowed inside. None of them emerged, during the period when my friend and I were finishing our dinners. I was hooked, curiosity having gotten the better of me, and so when we *did* finish, I walked over to this door and asked the bouncer whether we could go in. He hemmed and hawed and stammered for a few minutes. It was clear that the vast majority of real, everyday, American tourists who had dined here had never made such a request of him. I asked again, he looked at us deeply and seemed to sense something of an affinity there, and let us in. It was the gaudiest whorehouse I've ever seen in my entire life. Velvet Elvis paintings on the walls, only pornographic, with Elvis doing women of all shapes and colors. Red velvet couches, red velvet curtains, the whole bit. Truckers sitting around eyeing the merchandise, which consisted of fairly attractive local beauties here to earn enough money to enable them to (dare I say it) Get The Hell Outa Dodge. We had a couple of drinks and just watched the show for a while, and then thanked our hosts and returned to our room. But what a trip, eh? A normal-looking motel, along a normal-looking highway in fuckin' Kansas, and yet just Behind The Green Door (literally) in the restaurant was a serious whorehouse. I can only hope that the lonely truckers who sought comfort there found some. I certainly did, and I didn't even partake of the merchandise. :-) From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 8:45 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Sally Kempton: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 08/26/2014 Sweet, Rick. Just the kinda place I'd like to pull in to top up while on a Road Trip. In my mind I envision encountering this place after pulling off the road in some gawdawful Nowhere in the middle of the Northwestern New Mexico desert, miles from the nearest town, and finding it to be (to my surprise) a Safe Haven. :-) Given my somewhat...uh...odd tastes and proclivities, I imagine the rest stop part of this Safe Haven gas station as a kind of cross between a Tantric Temple in the Himalayas, a truck stop whorehouse along any major road in America, and a convenience store, in which one can not only buy highly-caffeinated drinks to fuel one's ongoing
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch's Ice Bucket Challenge video
Lynch seems a bit sideways -- drugs? old age? stress from TM burdens?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: US Bombs Own Vehicles and Weapons
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Salyavin, IMO, ISIS and the Sunnis are one and the same. The so called militants are the Sunni fighters at night, figuratively speaking, and during the daylight they become the residents of the towns doing their ordinary tasks. Obama is correct in saying that this problem is an Iraqi problem. They have to let the democratic process take hold in their own culture and understanding. And who are the victims? The minority people of Iraq, including the Christians, who are attempting to live in peace in a troubled land. In the meantime, the kabal that is funding this mayhem is rejoicing in the money they're making by selling barrels of oil at very high prices to Europe, the USA and the rest of the world. Is this evil or what? On 8/27/2014 11:39 AM, salyavin808 wrote: Yup. I do think the whole cock-up is our fault, from the end of the Ottaman empire onwards we've connived and meddled in their affairs and finally in 2003 we set this little ball rolling. That's one way to keep the defeat of the Ottoman Empire simple: set the little ball rolling, but I think it's a little more complicated than that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_Empire So I disagree that the Iraqi problem is theirs alone. We trashed their country and set up a hopeless puppet government that has failed miserably, there was hardly a thought for the aftermath in Blair's messianic vision of himself as the Iraqi saviour. When you break something you should pay for it. It isn't like they weren't warned, it isn't like this shit always happens... Not sure what your solution to the Middle Eastern problem would have been, but the idea first was to find out if the Irqi's had WMD - the only way you're going to find that ou FOR SURE was to go in and look around. But, the whole idea of invading Iraq was to set up a democratic and independent Iraq and stabilize the energy supply. You just can't do that when your foreign policy is isolationism. Following your logic, the whole of Europe and Britain would be speaking Arabic or Turkish by now. You either come up with some new solutions or you are doomed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : This is such an absurd turn of events. Why did the Iraqi army give up so easily against ISIS? IMO, the Iraqi army was infiltrated with sympathizers of ISIS. The officers of the army were probably paid off by ISIS to run away with their subordinates and leave the American vehicles and equipment to the militants. Maybe they were just scared? Maybe the US should put self-destruct devices in their next bunch of free gifts to the middle east.. It appears that the Iraqi army does not want to fight and are willing to be subjugated by the militants. In the end, they are willing to let the Christians and other minorities to be killed as sacrifices to the militant overlords. U.S. Airstrikes Destroy Millions Of Dollars In U.S.-Made Arms In Iraq http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/26/us-military-weapons-iraq_n_5718099.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0592 image http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/26/us-military-weapons-iraq_n_5718099.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0592 U.S. Airstrikes Destroy Millions Of Dollars In U.S http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/26/us-military-weapons-iraq_n_5718099.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0592 By Missy Ryan WASHINGTON, Aug 26 (Reuters) - The grainy black-and-white footage shows a military vehicle, a small dark mass in the crosshairs of a U.S. w... View on www.huffingtonpos... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/26/us-military-weapons-iraq_n_5718099.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0592 Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: US Bombs Own Vehicles and Weapons
Bhairitu, Religion is not the problem. It's ignorance. They, the Iraqis and the fundamentalists everywhere, need to find out for themselves that their way of thinking is causing their own seed of self-destruction. And, if not checked, they could lead to the destruction of world civilization as we know it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : A good reason to dump religions then... all religions. They are nothing but trouble. But then what percentage of Muslims are actually faithful Muslims? On 08/27/2014 11:09 AM, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: You are all under-educated about Islamic history - especially of the actual deeds of the prophet. These are all faithful Muslims who are doing exactly what their prophet did - and in the same way. If possible (Allah willing as they say), they will do it to all of us. Death by beheading or by AK execution for the men and sexual slavery for the good-looking women. The ordinary women will just be household slaves - if they even survive at all.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: US Bombs Own Vehicles and Weapons
Richard, You have to remember that ISIS is the most radical of all militants in the Middle East. Even the established Muslim countries dread the brand of Islam that ISIS promotes. In short, ISIS can be the cause of their own destruction. It is time now for the world to unite, Muslims and others with faith alike, to stop the rise of ISIS. They must be eliminated as a political and religious force. And, if any of them are captured, they must be tried in the world court for crimes against humanity. IOW, these events can lead to a world catharsis which would eventually open to a higher level of world consciousness. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 8/27/2014 11:12 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Salyavin, IMO, ISIS and the Sunnis are one and the same. The so called militants are the Sunni fighters at night, figuratively speaking, and during the daylight they become the residents of the towns doing their ordinary tasks. Obama is correct in saying that this problem is an Iraqi problem. They have to let the democratic process take hold in their own culture and understanding. And who are the victims? The minority people of Iraq, including the Christians, who are attempting to live in peace in a troubled land. In the meantime, the kabal that is funding this mayhem is rejoicing in the money they're making by selling barrels of oil at very high prices to Europe, the USA and the rest of the world. Is this evil or what? According to what I've read, the U.S. does not import any oil for refining from Iraq - we are 97% energy independent at this point. The lack of oil resources will affect Europe more than the U.S. and Europe may be the first set of countries to be restricted in energy resources when and if Russia starts shutting off the pipeline and sells oil and gas instead to China. Unless some radical changes in foreign policy are implemented it doesn't look good to the EU. Maybe it's time for the NATO countries to really beef up their national defense. The problem is that the ISIS wants to establish a training camp for insurgents to attack the west as a base of operations. Needless to say, this is a huge problem if they are able to obtain weapons of mass destruction. The bigger problem is the Islamic radicalization of the nuclear armed countries of Iran and Pakistan. It may be that we will have to go in there with boots on the ground with allied forces in order to prevent a nuclear attack. Maybe in the future the entire Middle East will become fenced off entirely from the rest of the civilized world - similar to the Gaza Strip. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote : This is such an absurd turn of events. Why did the Iraqi army give up so easily against ISIS? IMO, the Iraqi army was infiltrated with sympathizers of ISIS. The officers of the army were probably paid off by ISIS to run away with their subordinates and leave the American vehicles and equipment to the militants. Maybe they were just scared? Maybe the US should put self-destruct devices in their next bunch of free gifts to the middle east.. It appears that the Iraqi army does not want to fight and are willing to be subjugated by the militants. In the end, they are willing to let the Christians and other minorities to be killed as sacrifices to the militant overlords. U.S. Airstrikes Destroy Millions Of Dollars In U.S.-Made Arms In Iraq U.S. Airstrikes Destroy Millions Of Dollars In U.S By Missy Ryan WASHINGTON, Aug 26 (Reuters) - The grainy black-and-white footage shows a military vehicle, a small dark mass in the crosshairs of a U.S. w... View on www.huffingtonpos... Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Working towards Integrated Modern [spiritual too] Mental Health..
Buck, Nice. Dr Schneider's work is of particular interest to me. I have taken coursework with him (never to late to learn). I'm just sayin' that Maharishi intended to spiritually regenerate the world. He made world tours and established worldwide institutions. I, for one, think that the catalyst may be found in any country. Love, D
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: US Bombs Own Vehicles and Weapons
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote : Salyavin, IMO, ISIS and the Sunnis are one and the same. The so called militants are the Sunni fighters at night, figuratively speaking, and during the daylight they become the residents of the towns doing their ordinary tasks. Obama is correct in saying that this problem is an Iraqi problem. They have to let the democratic process take hold in their own culture and understanding. And who are the victims? The minority people of Iraq, including the Christians, who are attempting to live in peace in a troubled land. In the meantime, the kabal that is funding this mayhem is rejoicing in the money they're making by selling barrels of oil at very high prices to Europe, the USA and the rest of the world. Is this evil or what? On 8/27/2014 11:39 AM, salyavin808 wrote: Yup. I do think the whole cock-up is our fault, from the end of the Ottaman empire onwards we've connived and meddled in their affairs and finally in 2003 we set this little ball rolling. That's one way to keep the defeat of the Ottoman Empire simple: set the little ball rolling, but I think it's a little more complicated than that. Well no shit. I wasn't writing a graduate thesis. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_Empire http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_Empire So I disagree that the Iraqi problem is theirs alone. We trashed their country and set up a hopeless puppet government that has failed miserably, there was hardly a thought for the aftermath in Blair's messianic vision of himself as the Iraqi saviour. When you break something you should pay for it. It isn't like they weren't warned, it isn't like this shit always happens... Not sure what your solution to the Middle Eastern problem would have been, but the idea first was to find out if the Irqi's had WMD - the only way you're going to find that ou FOR SURE was to go in and look around. The UN were doing that but BB couldn't wait and didn't want to hear anyway. But, the whole idea of invading Iraq was to set up a democratic and independent Iraq and stabilize the energy supply. You just can't do that when your foreign policy is isolationism. As I mentioned, there wasn't a plan for the aftermath and they had been warned about the impending schism by the CIA and that was the reason they didn't topple Bhagdad after the first gulf war. If you break it you have to fix it. Following your logic, That'd be a first! the whole of Europe and Britain would be speaking Arabic or Turkish by now. You either come up with some new solutions or you are doomed. New solutions like bombing everyone back to the stone age? Again. Yes, that always works doesn't it ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote : This is such an absurd turn of events. Why did the Iraqi army give up so easily against ISIS? IMO, the Iraqi army was infiltrated with sympathizers of ISIS. The officers of the army were probably paid off by ISIS to run away with their subordinates and leave the American vehicles and equipment to the militants. Maybe they were just scared? Maybe the US should put self-destruct devices in their next bunch of free gifts to the middle east.. It appears that the Iraqi army does not want to fight and are willing to be subjugated by the militants. In the end, they are willing to let the Christians and other minorities to be killed as sacrifices to the militant overlords. U.S. Airstrikes Destroy Millions Of Dollars In U.S.-Made Arms In Iraq http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/26/us-military-weapons-iraq_n_5718099.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0592; class=ygrps-yiv-1349551249ygrps-yiv-2111361870ygrps-yiv-468399001ygrps-yiv-378969779link-enhancr-card-urlWrapper ygrps-yiv-1349551249ygrps-yiv-2111361870ygrps-yiv-468399001ygrps-yiv-378969779link-enhancr-element U.S. Airstrikes Destroy Millions Of Dollars In U.S By Missy Ryan WASHINGTON, Aug 26 (Reuters) - The grainy black-and-white footage shows a military vehicle, a small dark mass in the crosshairs of a U.S. w... View on www.huffingtonpos... Preview by Yahoo
Re: Gettin' Into Dodge (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Sally Kempton: New Interview)
Not to mention the brothels in the land of the Ved. Here's the Oscar award winning documentary Born Into Brothels: http://youtu.be/_kyXFr2g1x8 On 08/27/2014 12:48 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I've actually forgotten the name of this particular Dodge City motel, but as I remember it was called the Something Something Motel And Conference Center. The last part really amused me. Having figured out what it really was, I could imagine guys all over the Southwest bidding their wives farewell as they went off to their yearly (or monthly) conference at this hotel. :-) *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, August 27, 2014 9:41 PM *Subject:* Re: Gettin' Into Dodge (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Sally Kempton: New Interview) It's interesting to note that in the Bible Belt you will find such establishments and strip bars far more than you will in the Blue States. There was actually some statistical studies that proved it too. The only time I visited Fairfield I flew into Iowa City and staying overnight at a hotel by the airport looked in the phone directory to see what the local entertainment was. Prominently listed was a gentleman's club. On 08/27/2014 12:10 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com mailto:turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: OK, just for fun, and to prove that not all of my flights of fancy are *entirely* from my own private store of fancy, I have to tell a story. I was driving cross country in the U.S. with my best friend and former lover, and pulled into Dodge City, Kansas late one night. Winging it, as was our wont while on Road Trips, we had made no firm plans, and thus had no reservations at a place at which to pass the night. Driving along the main strip and seeing No Vacancy on every motel sign, I was starting to lose hope, but then I saw one last motel. It was one of those combo Southwestern Motels, with a small parking lot for auto traffic, and a somewhat larger parking lot for truckers. And its sign actually said Vacancy. I pulled in, found that there was only one room available, and booked it. We checked in, and then -- having heard from the desk clerk that there was no other restaurant in Dodge City open at this late hour, walked over to the restaurant, where we enjoyed a fairly acceptable meal. But as we sat there, I noticed that there was a door at the back of the restaurant, and that many of the truckers, after they had finished their dinner, left a nice tip for the waitress but then, rather than retire to the comfort of their rooms or the cabs of their trucks for the night, walked to this door, said something, and were allowed inside. None of them emerged, during the period when my friend and I were finishing our dinners. I was hooked, curiosity having gotten the better of me, and so when we *did* finish, I walked over to this door and asked the bouncer whether we could go in. He hemmed and hawed and stammered for a few minutes. It was clear that the vast majority of real, everyday, American tourists who had dined here had never made such a request of him. I asked again, he looked at us deeply and seemed to sense something of an affinity there, and let us in. It was the gaudiest whorehouse I've ever seen in my entire life. Velvet Elvis paintings on the walls, only pornographic, with Elvis doing women of all shapes and colors. Red velvet couches, red velvet curtains, the whole bit. Truckers sitting around eyeing the merchandise, which consisted of fairly attractive local beauties here to earn enough money to enable them to (dare I say it) Get The Hell Outa Dodge. We had a couple of drinks and just watched the show for a while, and then thanked our hosts and returned to our room. But what a trip, eh? A normal-looking motel, along a normal-looking highway in fuckin' Kansas, and yet just Behind The Green Door (literally) in the restaurant was a serious whorehouse. I can only hope that the lonely truckers who sought comfort there found some. I certainly did, and I didn't even partake of the merchandise. :-) *From:* TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com mailto:turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, August 27, 2014 8:45 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Sally Kempton: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 08/26/2014 Sweet, Rick. Just the kinda place I'd like to pull in to top up while on a Road Trip. In my mind I envision encountering this place after pulling off the road in some gawdawful Nowhere in the
RE: [FairfieldLife] Sally Kempton: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 08/26/2014
Ricky, I shopped at your Amazon Smile linkage. Hope you receive the commission. Send my best. D ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : Yes, relatively new. A listener in the UK made it for me. Can be downloaded in various sizes at http://batgap.com/aboutus/fan-resources/ http://batgap.com/aboutus/fan-resources/, as can batgap theme song, written by Vaj, to use as ring tone. From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 11:44 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Sally Kempton: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 08/26/2014 Nice graphic. Is that new? From: 'Rick Archer' rick@... mailto:rick@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com; fairfieldc...@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldc...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 6:41 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Sally Kempton: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 08/26/2014 If you are not doing so already, please consider donating a few dollars a month to help offset basic expenses associated with hosting, MailChimp, etc. Of course, larger donations for other expenses are very much appreciated and needed. Donate button on http://batgap.com http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=ca0a16464ae=16e07f16fe. Updates from Buddha at the Gas Pump Interviews with Ordinary Spiritually Awakened People New interview posted 08/26/2014: 247. Sally Kempton https://us-mg5.mail.yahoo.com/neo/launch?.rand=0b8m3ft1a6o9h#mctoc1 247. Sally Kempton http://batgap.us2.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=c9187c4569e=16e07f16fe By Rick on Aug 25, 2014 06:18 pm Sally Kempton is a deeply practiced teacher of meditation and spiritual philosophy, and the author of the books Meditation for the Love of It and Awakening Shakti: as well as the audio course Doorways to the Infinite, recently put out … Continue reading → http://batgap.us2.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=508b00dc5fe=16e07f16fe The post 247. Sally Kempton http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=2c9681979fe=16e07f16fe appeared first on Buddha at the Gas Pump http://batgap.us2.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=eb89b2a7d5e=16e07f16fe. Read in browser » http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=4057370a1ee=16e07f16fe http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=447848078ee=16e07f16fe http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=b691c7b3b4e=16e07f16fe Recent Interviews: 246. Shinzen Young http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=bf272140cfe=16e07f16fe 245. Āloka David Smith http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=822f25e64ce=16e07f16fe 244. Dan Harris http://batgap.us2.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=643059af17e=16e07f16fe 243. Linda Clair http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=abd3d49d90e=16e07f16fe 242. David Hoffmeister http://batgap.us2.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=1252751a59e=16e07f16fe Copyright © 2014 Buddha at the Gas Pump, All rights reserved. Regular announcement of new interviews posted at http://batgap.com http://batgap.com/. Our mailing address is: Buddha at the Gas Pump 1108 South B Street Fairfield, Iowa 52556 Add us to your address book http://batgap.us2.list-manage1.com/vcard?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=b0e5d0d53a http://www.mailchimp.com/monkey-rewards/?utm_source=freemium_newsletterutm_medium=emailutm_campaign=monkey_rewardsaid=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5afl=1
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: US Bombs Own Vehicles and Weapons
On 08/27/2014 12:38 PM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : On 08/27/2014 11:57 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : I know a scientist who has fun giving me a hard time on Sundays about astrology that is before he heads off to church. Go figger. = No comment ;-) = Like I have mentioned before I knew someone born into a Muslim family. When I asked her about Islam she said she didn't know anything about it because the family never practiced it. There are millions of Americans when asked if Christian might say so but if the next question is how often do you go to church might answer not since Sunday school when I was a child. In my family only my maternal grandmother attended church and was a Methodist. I was sent to Sunday school probably at age 5 but that lasted about a month. Later I attended to get a scout badge and then that was over. I was already a fan of Sarte by then. :-D My summation of religion as a child was weird stories and corny music. = I read this week that some English lads had gone off to Syria to join the jihad against their Muslim brothers persecutors. Police investigating whether they might come back as full blown terrorists had checked their computers for signs that they had been radicalised and found that the last thing they had purchased was a copy of The Koran for Dummies. Honestly. No Friday prayers for these guys... I watched a Turkish movie a few years back where the filmmaker made a point to have a character who had taken a rap for his boss and was just released from prison visit a mosque and notice that there were only about 5 people there for prayers and it was a rather large mosque. On 08/27/2014 11:09 AM, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: You are all under-educated about Islamic history - especially of the actual deeds of the prophet. These are all faithful Muslims who are doing exactly what their prophet did - and in the same way. If possible (Allah willing as they say), they will do it to all of us. Death by beheading or by AK execution for the men and sexual slavery for the good-looking women. The ordinary women will just be household slaves - if they even survive at all.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Awake: The Life Of Yogananda - Rotten Tomatoes
Unless Pramananda Yogananda was initiated by His Holiness Swami Brahmananda Saraswati, he didn't have the TM technique. I did enjoy his promo tape. He had me at the US Government placed him on their Watch List. he must have been doing something right. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote : “We were members of the SRF before starting TM in 1967 and were frequent visitors to the Mt. Washington center in L.A.. The meditation is very similar to TM practice and includes the use of a mantra called the hong sau as well as being aware of the sound current. It is a reliable yoga practice but I seem to be more attuned to my TM technique, probably due to the benefit of direct contact with teachers like Jerry Jarvis and MMY - which seems to have added the requisite shakti element to my program.” The “hong-sau” was Yogananda’s Bengali approximation of some ancient breath-phonemes. These are forms of mantra-pranâyama used to un-restrain (“ayama”) the breath. It is a practice found throughout the Yoga-Upanishads. However, the actual Sanskrit is “haṃsa” – pronounced in English equivalency as “hum” (as in the word humble) plus the phoneme “suh” as in the Southern reply “yes suh”. Therefore, the accurate pronunciation in Sanskrit is “humsuh”. The Bengali-English equivalent would be either “hungsuh” (not like hoong” but like “he hung himself”) or with long “ah-s” as the phoneme “hângsâh”. The phoneme“hong” is a straightforward pronunciation-equivalent. The so-called phoneme “sau” is pronounced in Sanskrit like the English word “sow” and was an unwieldy attempt by Yogananda to approximate the phoneme “sah”. When joined with the breath, the in-breath sound is hum and the out-breath sound is suh. As it says in one of the Yoga-upanishad-s, when performed long enough, this pranâyama-mantra reverses and becomes the more common prana-mantra sohaṃ - pronounced so on the inbreath and hum on the outbreath. This is an Upanishad identity mantra: Soham means He I am (parsed as sah-aham) but joined in Sanskrit sandhi (phonemic union). ♫ Paramahânsa Yogânânda parlez-vous? ♫
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch's Ice Bucket Challenge video
You are describing yourself again, better get back on those pills you used to take when you felt so much better ! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Lynch seems a bit sideways -- drugs? old age? stress from TM burdens?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Awake: The Life Of Yogananda - Rotten Tomatoes
Yogananda had nothing close to TM. His techniques were all directed attention. His OM meditation at the ajña-chakra was far away from TM.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TMO Disease: Hypochondria
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 8/27/2014 9:53 AM, danfriedman2002 wrote: The growers can only sell Organic Produce, so they print a lot of organic in dside stickers. I travel in Latin America and find it laughable, if you saw the growing conditions. I feel you with the grains. Used to be their main thing, now it's relegated to a corner in the basement. Love that Tamari. 60's! I just returned fromBuca Brick Oven Pizza. Talk about Iatalian. Waitress is Sardinian, serves me a couple of glasses of Trebbiano and a bottle of Morelli (I passed on the water). Got thru the Pizza Parmegiana (eggplant melts in your mouth) and on to the Tiramisu. When I'm passed all that, she takes me around the corner to Arco Cafe, a new Sardinian restaurant on Amsterdam. Taste some stuff. Move on. Need tosave room for dinner. We are not overly concerned about the organic certification because we don't eat food that would be typically contaminated with fumigants, such as strawberries, grapes and peaches or prepared juices, because we eat mostly locally grown produce such as lettuce, squash, carrots, and broccoli, that are certified organic in the USA by the Organic Trade Association (OTA). What we go for mostly at Whole Foods are the bulk whole grains, organic chicken, and a few imported condiments such as Shoyu or Tamari. We have found that the organic whole grain brown rice grown in Deaf Smith County suits our needs. But, we are not real big on carbohydrates anymore anyway - we mostly eat salads and vegetable soup and protein drinks we make in a blender. We are pretty big on filtered water. Go figure. However, we do partake of some genuine Tex-Mex dishes at our favorite restaurant, but always in moderation. http://theorganicpages.com/topo/companylisting.html?CompanyId=7351 http://theorganicpages.com/topo/companylisting.html?CompanyId=7351 Dinning with family and friends at Rosario's, San Antonio ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : On 8/27/2014 8:19 AM, danfriedman2002 wrote: Rich, You are wealthy because you don't eat too much. Also, since you turned me on to a new TM=related book (Have you read Reflections on the Teachings of Maharishi: A personal Journey by John Hornburg? [sorry, the Italics button is stuck]), I'll explain myself further. This being NYC, there is a Farmer's Market just around the corner from Whole Foods. The word from there is that the Hole Foods produce sucks (technical term used by farmers who know their shit/manure). Our local Hole Foods get's its 'organic produce' from Mexico, Chile et al. Then they claim it is Organic because it has been Crtified Organic in the growing country. The growers can only sell Organic Produce, so they print a lot of organic in dside stickers. I travel in Latin America and find it laughable, if you saw the growing conditions. Then...The Hole Foods Market becomes a magnet for the Nannys, most of whom miss their country so come to congregate. They are given a week's shopping list from their pretentious employer, and have no idea what these food items are. They weave down the isles, strollers plus wagons in tow. Because they would be found out otherwise, they are more likely to drop the child than the especial food item they are retrieving for the list. Entertaining though. Our local Whole Foods Market gets it's organic produce from the farmers market just around the corner or from a farm nearby. The best produce and most satisfying is the produce you grow in your own back yard. What most people don't realize when they purchase food is the stress and heat factor. All processed food is stressed to a certain extent and/or heated. This includes the process and the packaging itself and the transportation from the farm. Produce sometimes comes from as far away as Mexico and California. They show you the difference. Organic apples are not unblemished, organic peaches are not unblemished, organic,,,get it? The ideal would be to procure all or most of your food without using a harvesting device. Since this is close to impossible for most urban dwellers we have to be more flexible and make choices. Locally picked fruit and vegetables harvested by hand in your local area would be the best choice and imported and processed foods last. The best and most satisfying food we ever obtained were apples picked directly from the ground which had fallen the same day from fruit trees grown, but even then we had to drive to the orchard in a wheeled vehicle. Thanks for the book recommendation. I may need to pull away from this exciting time on ffl when the postman delivers. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : On 8/26/2014 6:50 PM, danfriedman2002 wrote:
Re: [FairfieldLife] So What Do You do?
Makin' me hungry! I used to eat lots of Macro in NYC restaurants, when it was trendy. Last time I got annoyed about the family-style seating and lousy wine list. Did sprout some in the closet for a while. Like gardening. Keep it green! Now I eat lots of Japanese (out). Mostly sushi. The best salad I have ever eaten (and vegetables are my friends). My wife comes from generations of vegetarians, and she's written about past times. Nice to talk food, although it's making me hungry! Hearty appetitie, Mr D ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 8/27/2014 10:17 AM, danfriedman2002 wrote: Impressive, so perhaps you can help. For starters please clarify what you mean by Slice the vegetables on the bias because I just will not discriminate against any vegetable, green or blue, because vegetables are my friends. Slicing vegetable on the bias is an old teaching that we learned from George Ohasawa, the founder of the Macrobiotic diet and philosophy and Michio and Aveline Kushi who helped to introduce modern macrobiotics to the United States. Sanpaku (three-spaces empty) refers to traditional Japanese physiognomic diagnosis in which eyes can be seen to present a white area below as well as to each side of the iris when viewed straight on. Slicing on the bias refers to cutting at an angle - one of the requirements in cooking the macrobiotic way. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : On 8/27/2014 8:58 AM, danfriedman2002 wrote: I got the Deluxe Browser now. See the brownies below... I do admit though, Hole Foods does have good brownies! We love brownies from Whole Foods, but unfortunately on our current diet, we can't eat many because of the sugar content. We don't consume processed sugar anymore and we have cut way down on our carbohydrate consumption as well. We are currently working on limiting our dairy intake which is very difficult. But, we know a couple that has managed to eliminate all dairy products from their diet. We still eat cooked food but we eat raw food as well, such as salads. We only eat out about once a week these days because most prepared foods are good tasting but also contain other unknown and unsavory ingredients. Our basic food philosophy is keep it simple. Here is our basic recipe for making soup: Ingredients: 1. Vegetables. 2. Water. Directions: In a pot, bring water to a boil. Slice the vegetables on the bias.Add the cut vegetables to the pot. Cover and simmer until the vegetables are soft. Add seasoning to taste. Soup made with organic vegetables and filtered water cooked on low heat. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : On 8/27/2014 8:16 AM, danfriedman2002 wrote: Yes, f the observer is still vibrational, the observed is known only as a solid object and appears to be essentially different from other forms of matter. According to A.J. Bahm, objects appear in consciousness as wholes, or gestalts. They enter experience already made. Some unconscious or subconscious process determines our conscious experiences for us, even though we can never become aware of it. The mystery of consciousness may never be explained satisfactorily,Consciousness is The Simplest Thing. but it is obvious, to those who reflect, that something happens within us to make us see things the way we do. This something must be taken into account in explaining the nature of knowledge. Experience! Perhaps the most startling construction is that of consciousness itself. The intellect is only a part of the mind and thus, blind to wholeness. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : On 8/26/2014 6:54 PM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Michael, that bliss is an isness. It is not a thereness as in, you are already there. Everything is useless and nothing is useless. You are that bliss, mantra is that bliss. Bliss alone is. Even the questions are bliss. In fact they make the bubbles of bliss rise up into laughter. In my experience... It is obvious that different people may not see the same object as it is, but may perceive different objects when confronted by the same stimulus source. We fail to take into account the constructed character of knowing. The term constructed character of knowing may be used to name the synthesizing process that goes on in the brain before experiences are produced. The various nervous impulses do not appear in consciousness to be knowingly assembled or constructed into an object. On Tuesday, August 26, 2014 6:48 PM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Re: Gettin' Into Dodge (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Sally Kempton: New Interview)
What a great story - you should make that the nucleus of a book From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 3:10 PM Subject: Gettin' Into Dodge (was Re: [FairfieldLife] Sally Kempton: New Interview) OK, just for fun, and to prove that not all of my flights of fancy are *entirely* from my own private store of fancy, I have to tell a story. I was driving cross country in the U.S. with my best friend and former lover, and pulled into Dodge City, Kansas late one night. Winging it, as was our wont while on Road Trips, we had made no firm plans, and thus had no reservations at a place at which to pass the night. Driving along the main strip and seeing No Vacancy on every motel sign, I was starting to lose hope, but then I saw one last motel. It was one of those combo Southwestern Motels, with a small parking lot for auto traffic, and a somewhat larger parking lot for truckers. And its sign actually said Vacancy. I pulled in, found that there was only one room available, and booked it. We checked in, and then -- having heard from the desk clerk that there was no other restaurant in Dodge City open at this late hour, walked over to the restaurant, where we enjoyed a fairly acceptable meal. But as we sat there, I noticed that there was a door at the back of the restaurant, and that many of the truckers, after they had finished their dinner, left a nice tip for the waitress but then, rather than retire to the comfort of their rooms or the cabs of their trucks for the night, walked to this door, said something, and were allowed inside. None of them emerged, during the period when my friend and I were finishing our dinners. I was hooked, curiosity having gotten the better of me, and so when we *did* finish, I walked over to this door and asked the bouncer whether we could go in. He hemmed and hawed and stammered for a few minutes. It was clear that the vast majority of real, everyday, American tourists who had dined here had never made such a request of him. I asked again, he looked at us deeply and seemed to sense something of an affinity there, and let us in. It was the gaudiest whorehouse I've ever seen in my entire life. Velvet Elvis paintings on the walls, only pornographic, with Elvis doing women of all shapes and colors. Red velvet couches, red velvet curtains, the whole bit. Truckers sitting around eyeing the merchandise, which consisted of fairly attractive local beauties here to earn enough money to enable them to (dare I say it) Get The Hell Outa Dodge. We had a couple of drinks and just watched the show for a while, and then thanked our hosts and returned to our room. But what a trip, eh? A normal-looking motel, along a normal-looking highway in fuckin' Kansas, and yet just Behind The Green Door (literally) in the restaurant was a serious whorehouse. I can only hope that the lonely truckers who sought comfort there found some. I certainly did, and I didn't even partake of the merchandise. :-) From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 8:45 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Sally Kempton: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 08/26/2014 Sweet, Rick. Just the kinda place I'd like to pull in to top up while on a Road Trip. In my mind I envision encountering this place after pulling off the road in some gawdawful Nowhere in the middle of the Northwestern New Mexico desert, miles from the nearest town, and finding it to be (to my surprise) a Safe Haven. :-) Given my somewhat...uh...odd tastes and proclivities, I imagine the rest stop part of this Safe Haven gas station as a kind of cross between a Tantric Temple in the Himalayas, a truck stop whorehouse along any major road in America, and a convenience store, in which one can not only buy highly-caffeinated drinks to fuel one's ongoing journey, but various medicinal herbs and potions as well. Cash only, because you're Just Passing Through, and who knows whether there will be anything left of you when the credit card bill comes due. :-) From: 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 8:09 PM Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Sally Kempton: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 08/26/2014 Yes, relatively new. A listener in the UK made it for me. Can be downloaded in various sizes at http://batgap.com/aboutus/fan-resources/, as can batgap theme song, written by Vaj, to use as ring tone. From:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Wednesday,
[FairfieldLife] Re: Awake: The Life Of Yogananda - Rotten Tomatoes
Who is the Vajra Regent? The Vajra Regent was Chogyam Trungpa’s personally chose successor. Original name Thomas Rich later named Ösel Tendzin. During the controversy, Pema Chödrön (the so-called monastic) used to hold meetings where she would say “We can’t judge … we should just do our practice … the lineage is more important than us … blah blah.” I have close friends who were there both before and after this controversy. To this day, they still have contempt for Chödrön and the other appeasers. Like many others, they left and went with other Tibetan teachers. I met them about four years afterward.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Awake: The Life Of Yogananda - Rotten Tomatoes
Empty, When there's Something Good Happening*, everyone wants the credit. Keep it up! See you on the other side, Full ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote : Yogananda had nothing close to TM. His techniques were all directed attention. His OM meditation at the ajña-chakra was far away from TM.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Sally Kempton: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 08/26/2014
On 8/27/2014 1:45 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Sweet, Rick. Just the kinda place I'd like to pull in to top up while on a Road Trip. In my mind I envision encountering this place after pulling off the road in some gawdawful Nowhere in the middle of the Northwestern New Mexico desert, miles from the nearest town, and finding it to be (to my surprise) a Safe Haven. :-) Given my somewhat...uh...odd tastes and proclivities, I imagine the rest stop part of this Safe Haven gas station as a kind of cross between a Tantric Temple in the Himalayas, a truck stop whorehouse along any major road in America, and a convenience store, in which one can not only buy highly-caffeinated drinks to fuel one's ongoing journey, but various medicinal herbs and potions as well. Cash only, because you're Just Passing Through, and who knows whether there will be anything left of you when the credit card bill comes due. :-) You just described almost every truck stop convenience store rest stop in the western half of the U.S. Go figure. *From:* 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, August 27, 2014 8:09 PM *Subject:* RE: [FairfieldLife] Sally Kempton: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 08/26/2014 Yes, relatively new. A listener in the UK made it for me. Can be downloaded in various sizes at http://batgap.com/aboutus/fan-resources/, as can batgap theme song, written by Vaj, to use as ring tone. *From:*FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, August 27, 2014 11:44 AM *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Sally Kempton: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 08/26/2014 */Nice graphic. Is that new?/* *From:*'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com mailto:r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com; fairfieldc...@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldc...@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, August 27, 2014 6:41 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Sally Kempton: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 08/26/2014 If you are not doing so already, please consider donating a few dollars a month to help offset basic expenses associated with hosting, MailChimp, etc. Of course, larger donations for other expenses are very much appreciated and needed. Donate button on http://batgap.com http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=ca0a16464ae=16e07f16fe. Updates from Buddha at the Gas Pump *Interviews with Ordinary Spiritually Awakened People* *New interview posted 08/26/2014:* * 247. Sally Kempton https://us-mg5.mail.yahoo.com/neo/launch?.rand=0b8m3ft1a6o9h#mctoc1 247. Sally Kempton http://batgap.us2.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=c9187c4569e=16e07f16fe /By Rick on Aug 25, 2014 06:18 pm/ Sally Kempton is a deeply practiced teacher of meditation and spiritual philosophy, and the author of the books Meditation for the Love of It and Awakening Shakti: as well as the audio course Doorways to the Infinite, recently put out … Continue reading → http://batgap.us2.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=508b00dc5fe=16e07f16fe The post 247. Sally Kempton http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=2c9681979fe=16e07f16fe appeared first on Buddha at the Gas Pump http://batgap.us2.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=eb89b2a7d5e=16e07f16fe. Read in browser » http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=4057370a1ee=16e07f16fe share on Twitter http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=447848078ee=16e07f16feLike 247. Sally Kempton on Facebook http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=b691c7b3b4e=16e07f16fe Recent Interviews: 246. Shinzen Young http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=bf272140cfe=16e07f16fe 245. Āloka David Smith http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=822f25e64ce=16e07f16fe 244. Dan Harris http://batgap.us2.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=643059af17e=16e07f16fe 243. Linda Clair http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=abd3d49d90e=16e07f16fe 242. David Hoffmeister http://batgap.us2.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=1252751a59e=16e07f16fe /Copyright © 2014 Buddha at the Gas Pump, All rights reserved./ Regular announcement of new interviews posted at http://batgap.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: US Bombs Own Vehicles and Weapons
John, I'm sure *tribalism* is involved. However, seeing or even hearing of thousands of your comrades in arms being executed would be enough to get many to slip away regardless of Tribe. On Wednesday, August 27, 2014 1:19 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: On 08/27/2014 12:38 PM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:noozguru@... wrote : On 08/27/2014 11:57 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:noozguru@... wrote : I know a scientist who has fun giving me a hard time on Sundays about astrology that is before he heads off to church. Go figger. = No comment ;-) = Like I have mentioned before I knew someone born into a Muslim family. When I asked her about Islam she said she didn't know anything about it because the family never practiced it. There are millions of Americans when asked if Christian might say so but if the next question is how often do you go to church might answer not since Sunday school when I was a child. In my family only my maternal grandmother attended church and was a Methodist. I was sent to Sunday school probably at age 5 but that lasted about a month. Later I attended to get a scout badge and then that was over. I was already a fan of Sarte by then. :-D My summation of religion as a child was weird stories and corny music. = I read this week that some English lads had gone off to Syria to join the jihad against their Muslim brothers persecutors. Police investigating whether they might come back as full blown terrorists had checked their computers for signs that they had been radicalised and found that the last thing they had purchased was a copy of The Koran for Dummies. Honestly. No Friday prayers for these guys... I watched a Turkish movie a few years back where the filmmaker made a point to have a character who had taken a rap for his boss and was just released from prison visit a mosque and notice that there were only about 5 people there for prayers and it was a rather large mosque. On 08/27/2014 11:09 AM, emptybill@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: You are all under-educated about Islamic history - especially of the actual deeds of the prophet. These are all faithful Muslims who are doing exactly what their prophet did - and in the same way. If possible (Allah willing as they say), they will do it to all of us. Death by beheading or by AK execution for the men and sexual slavery for the good-looking women. The ordinary women will just be household slaves - if they even survive at all. Sunnis are caught in the middle on this one. Shiites won't share power with sunnis or anyone else, yet the sunnis know the ISIS is freakin' crazy.
