[FairfieldLife] Re: Animal Life Forms on Mars

[salyavin808]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Could rocks have life and move on their own?
 

 It's the same rock just from a slightly different angle.
 

 To answer the question: Rocks can't be seen as being alive because if you take 
them apart to their component molecules you can put them back in any order you 
like and they are still rocks. Take you, me or any living thing apart and there 
is only one way (or very few) that you could rebuild us so we are still living 
things, let alone the same as we are now.
 

 
http://www.examiner.com/article/astronomer-discovers-animal-life-form-on-mars-from-nasa-images?cid=taboola_inbound
 
http://www.examiner.com/article/astronomer-discovers-animal-life-form-on-mars-from-nasa-images?cid=taboola_inbound

[FairfieldLife] Re: Duped into thinking you could fly?

[salyavin808]

 I think they should also be sued for encouraging littering!
 

 I tried one of these energy drinks once, never again. I was frothing at the 
mouth and babbling all night. Highly speedy. I can't believe they are legal for 
adults let alone children, and some people knock them back like I drink water!
 

 I think a class action suit against the TMO would be workable and lucrative 
because it's actually taught that the TMSP develops paranormal powers (the clue 
is in the name) and they even publish "scientific" lectures about how it works 
to entice the unwary into thinking there's a physical basis for it all. Given 
the amount of time I spent doing it when I could have been earning a decent 
crust, I would say that a round figure of £1 million ought to ease the pain of 
still being held to the ground by gravity. I might want an extra million to 
compensate me for the embarrassment of having to admit I fell for it too.
 

 Now we can watch the TB's claiming they only learnt for self improvement 
reasons and don;t care that they never developed any magical powers. Insert 
spluttering protests here:
 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Did you fall for the hype about being able to levitate?
 

 Are you angry about the cash you lost chasing that dream of flying?
 

 Do your friends and acquaintances now laugh at you for being so credulous?
 

 Good news! You may be entitled to compensation. 
 

 Energy drink "Red Bull" settled two class-action lawsuits this week, agreeing 
to pay $13 million because their famous slogan 'Red Bull gives you wings' isn't 
true. Anyone who bought a drink from January 1, 2002 to October 3, 2014 is 
eligible to receive a $10 cash payment - regardless of whether there was a 
receipt for proof.

 Here's one of the ads they ran. If people can now sue for such obviously 
idiotic claims it only goes to show what a dumbed-down society we are living in.
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K31dg86OmuM 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K31dg86OmuM

 

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sophisticated Pre-Columbian Native American Civilizations and Cultures

[steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

What to do? 

 There is even structure there called Moundhenge that was made during the 
harmonic convergence, I believe.
 

 I drive past that as well.
 

 Now, I will admit, that the other day, I went off a side road right next to 
the main mound to see if there was a place I could park and maybe hunt around 
for some artifacts.
 

 Yes, I admit it.  But, I couldn't really find a place where I could hide my 
car.
 

 Now, I could just park in the mound area parking lot, and walk around to the 
forested area behind it, but I just haven't gotten around to doing that yet.
 

 But, the last time my daughter and I went, it was at sunset, and it was pretty 
nice.
 

 Of course there was a man up there doing some kind of strange ritual, who 
seemed bothered by our presence.
 

 I think he must have been Native American in some respect, although you 
wouldn't have known it by looking at him.
 

 The Cahokia Mounds Museum and Interactive Center right across the road is 
pretty neat.
 

 I've been there several times.
 

 And of course, St. Louis still carries the nickname, Mound City because of all 
the mounds in its vicinity.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 On 10/12/2014 7:15 PM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

 I'm always trying to pick up some vibe when I drive by the mounds, or climb 
up, but so far nothing has registered. >
 Stupas all over the place!
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cahokia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cahokia
 

[FairfieldLife] About Nov. 30

['Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife]]

An organizer asked me to post this.

 

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One's perspective on this presentation of Explanations should be focused on 
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Ask yourself on November 30th:

 

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That should always be the test. On the individual level. 

 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sophisticated Pre-Columbian Native American Civilizations and Cultures

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 10/12/2014 7:15 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
I'm always trying to pick up some vibe when I drive by the mounds, or 
climb up, but so far nothing has registered.

>
/Stupas all over the place!//
//
//http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cahokia/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Stock up on chocolate?

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 10/12/2014 7:45 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

Ebola is threatening chocolate now.

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/10/ebola-chocolate-industry-africa-effects-111809.html

>
/Lethal experimental infections of rhesus monkeys by aerosolized Ebola 
virus://

//http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1997182//

[FairfieldLife] Duped into thinking you could fly?

[s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Did you fall for the hype about being able to levitate?
 

 Are you angry about the cash you lost chasing that dream of flying?
 

 Do your friends and acquaintances now laugh at you for being so credulous?
 

 Good news! You may be entitled to compensation. 
 

 Energy drink "Red Bull" settled two class-action lawsuits this week, agreeing 
to pay $13 million because their famous slogan 'Red Bull gives you wings' isn't 
true. Anyone who bought a drink from January 1, 2002 to October 3, 2014 is 
eligible to receive a $10 cash payment - regardless of whether there was a 
receipt for proof.

 Here's one of the ads they ran. If people can now sue for such obviously 
idiotic claims it only goes to show what a dumbed-down society we are living in.
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K31dg86OmuM 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K31dg86OmuM

 

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] The New Yorker - the 28 pages and 9/11

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 10/12/2014 5:44 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

New Yorker article about the 28 pages that were redacted from the
official 9/11 Report and how the Saudis support their publication.

http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/twenty-eight-pages

>
/Non sequitur. It has already been established that the Saudis were 
responsible for the WTC attack.//Osama bin Laden was a Saudi. Go figure./

Re: [FairfieldLife] Not so Farsighted...

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 10/12/2014 5:16 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:


Yeah, Courtney can be a little hard to take but I watched the videos 
to see how they were doing their RV.  I got the "real deal" in tantra 
but we just call it "intuition" and the different ways you use it.

>
/You are not even making any sense today. Was your tantra teacher a 
Truther? It would make an interesting study to find out why a tantra 
teacher would be teaching conspiracy theories instead of giving out 
mantras. Go figure./

>


On 10/12/2014 01:46 PM, salyavin808 wrote:





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I'm now more interested in psychological studies to find why people 
get so upset with folks who like to investigate things like 9-11.  It 
seems to be some form of psychosis.  If I'm a "truther" does that 
make you a "liar"? :-D


Upset? Not me, I'm investigating it too, or rather I'm checking the 
claims made by people who think they can find answers by looking into 
the past somehow. So far I can't see that that is what they are 
doing. Are the 9/11 claims more realistic than the Egyptian ones? 
With the lack of corroborating evidence it seems the only way to 
agree is if you've decided there is a conspiracy of some sort anyway, 
it's not like there is a measurable standard of evidence being used here.


BTW, we're not being smug, just raising questions and trying to make 
folks aware of some things. The smugness is in your head.


That was an observation not an accusation. But do seem unaware that 
what you have about 9/11 is unproven accusations and not any sort of 
proof.


But the guy in the video is /very/ smug, and /very/ elitist. The 
whole thing smacks of a "we are smarter than you because we know this 
and you stupid people just swallow what the 'authorities' tell you". 
I either agree with Courtney Brown or I'm letting other people think 
for me. I see another choice.


What all this basically lacks is an explanation of just where the 
past is supposed to be. The second law of thermodynamics tells us it 
aint there no more, so just where these guys go in their heads is 
beyond me. And there's no corroborating evidence for the claims made 
obviously. And an explanation for how it might work, even in linear 
time, might be nice.


But as I always say, we need to sort the signal from the noise and 
that will take corrobarative evidence, maybe they could point to 
where something made of an alien technology is buried so we could go 
dig it up? That would be convincing. But as it is they are making an 
argument from personal incredulity and should spend a bit more time 
reading about Egypt before concluding our ancestors couldn't have 
done it all themselves. Egyptologists (the authorities) hate the 
Johnny-come-lately's who stroll onto the Giza plateau and declare 
aliens must have been involved or whatever.


I wish history was all as easy to understand as RVers claim and this 
is the problem, they claim it's efficient knowledge and better than 
that gained by trained archaeologists. Can you imagine if this sort 
of thinking took over the education system? The internet is where 
this belongs, and all that that entails.. ...


Conclusion: I don't think this is a good place to look if you want 
answers to what you see as the questions about 9/11. Or anything.



On 10/12/2014 11:07 AM, salyavin808 wrote:

Well Bhairitu, I've started perusing the videos on the remote 
viewing site and it's hard to convey how unimpressive it is.



The Pyramid one for instance starts with a lecture about not waiting 
for authority to disclose things but finding them out for yourself. 
And then asks you to take his word for it! The following babble is 
unbelievably clueless, talk of using sound to hover blocks of stone, 
battling alien races (where did they go and why did they leave no 
trace?) and worldwide slave labour! All to solve what isn't really a 
mystery - the pyramids weren't built with slaves and the stone was 
quarried nearby in the usual fashion with bronze axes and chisels, 
loads of which are lying around still.



Pervading it all is this same elite smugness that I see with the 
9/11 "truthers". That only they know the truth and you are stupid 
sheeple for believing the "authorities" version of what happened. 
They never finish the sentence by saying we should follow their 
authority instead. And a highly unorthodox and impossible to verify 
one at that.



I always found it insulting to our ancestors that we can't credit 
them with enough wherewithal to build a few huge monuments, I know 
it's a backhanded compliment but it does us no credit to assume that 
just because we couldn't get organisation like that together there's 
no way they could have, we didn't have the sort of devotional 
society they had. They may not even have had minds that worked in 
the same way as us.



Whatever the RV'ers daydream, the pyramids were built by humans. 
Don't let other people do your thinking for you,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: King Tony's Pedigree

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 10/12/2014 2:56 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
I don't know if Billy, you hijacked the thread or not but 
"reincarnation is for the ignorant" is a typical Indian belief.  I 
wasn't even aware of it until I saw a Nat Geo or Discover channel 
documentary on funerals in different countries and they covered the 
burning ghats in Varanasi which I've seen.  They mentioned that people 
come there to be cremated so they don't reincarnate but gurus aren't 
allowed because they gurus to come back and keep teaching.  Weird uh?

>
/You are not even making any sense - almost everyone in India believes 
in reincarnation; it's one of the leading tenets of Hinduism and 
Buddhism.//It's also one of the main tenets of Yoga - to liberate 
oneself from the binding cycle of birth, death and rebirth. Not sure how 
you were able to sneak into the burning ghats at Varanasi//- tourists 
aren't usually allowed in there just to look around./


/According to Hindu traditions, the reasons for preferring to destroy 
the corpse by fire, over burying it into ground, is to induce a feeling 
of detachment into the freshly disembodied spirit, which will be helpful 
to encourage it into passing to its next destination, lest it remain 
near its former body.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cremation#Hinduism_and_other_Indian_origin_religions/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: King Tony's Pedigree

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 10/12/2014 2:42 PM, seerd...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


I believe he said "We are against it" (not to say that he did not also 
say your quote).



>
/At one time MMY said he was "opposed to reincarnation", implying that 
anyone who became a siddha would not have to be reincarnated again - 
they would be liberated from the endless cycle of rebirth.//Apparently 
the idea of reincarnation was invented by the historical Buddha. Go figure.

//
//According to my professor Dr. Olivelle, "...the origin of the concept 
of the cycle of birth and death, the concept of samsara, and the concept 
of liberation in the Indian tradition, were in part the creation of the 
non-Vedic Shramana tradition."/


Notes:

Dr. Patrick Olivelle, the translator of the Upaishads, is the Chair, 
Department of Asian Studies, and Director, Center for Asian Studies, at 
the University of Texas at Austin.


Works cited:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reincarnation

Flood, Gavin. Olivelle, Patrick. 2003. The Blackwell Companion to 
Hinduism. Malden: Blackwell. pg. 273-4.

>



Being "against it" to me is far richer in meaning, funnier, and to me 
characterizes his style of communication.  He spoke with different 
levels of meaning, with double (and triple) entendre (not sexual in 
instances that I heard).  His quip was funny, decoupling his words 
 from esoteria suitable for their focus on modern educated audiences, 
yet still conveying (what I believe) he meant.


Being against it means he was promoting a method (in his mind) that 
made reincarnation unnecessary.  If asked if he believed in the 
existance any curable disease, a witty doctor might say the same.


This is instructive (to me) -- a message that his, and any teacher's 
words need to be carefully parsed, not over generalized, viewed in its 
specific context and for what audience, don't assume its the full 
teach or truth being conveyed, and most importantly, loosen up, let 
your sense of humor blossom (more).


His is I believe the traditional view that the seeds of reincarnation 
(the vast mountain of karma -- both the small chunk bitten off in this 
life (prarabdha karma) as well as the remainder of the huge yet to be 
dealt with (sanchita karma) are burned by the fires of knowledge (from 
Gita).


(And personally I do not count anything M said as authoritative. Nor 
that of (much) of any teacher or source of knowledge (or words). But 
for me, he did provide some useful starting points for personal 
investigation and validation.)


Quick aside: paraphrasing an early day's conversation:
M: we all have a mountain of karma.
CLutes (apparently believing he was quite far along on the path): "M, 
do I have a mountain of karma?"

M: "You Charlie have more like a huge mountain range."

What are the fires of knowledge? A number of possibilities, not 
necessarily mutually exclusive:


  * understanding and knowledge,
  * transcending,
  * kundalini rising and burning all latent samskaras in the chakras,
culminating in the blooming of the crown chakra,
  * grace of a fully realized teacher,
  * grace of the divine
  * other stuff


And does "no reincarnation" mean no more individuality after the body 
drops?


(And my position is at least sympathetic with uber atheist Sam Harris 
who said in a funny quip, at a conference on death ( or something) 
with speakers across a full spectrum of views, paraphrasing "The key 
thing is we will all dance around the question and weave greatly 
nuanced and intricate answers, but the bottom line is none of us know 
what really happens when the physical body dies."


Reincarnation in human form does not preclude continuation of inner 
evolution in many astral and causal planes (Autobio of Yogi has good 
discussion of this).


And is Moksha / Liberation (that is, all Sanchita Karma (the whole 
range, the big enchilada) is burned / roasted)  the same as 
"enlightenment"?  I suggest Liberation is the ultimate real thing, 
with a clear criteria. Enlightenment, at what ever stage, not so much. 
That is not to discount the freedom and contentment of any such stages 
and states.

[FairfieldLife] Parody or Truth 5

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 Richard can’t wait to get up. Today is the day he and Rita have plans. First, 
they will be venturing to Whole Foods where he is aware that quinoa is on super 
special. After that, on the way for a visit at  the genius bar at the Apple 
store (Richard likes to play with these young “geniuses” to see if they are as 
smart as they think they are) they will stop off for a little Tex Mex in the 
strip mall - although it his housed in a rather humdrum part of town it boasts 
the best Albondigas soup which Richard plans to follow with the arroz con pollo 
(and maybe his guilty pleasure, the cheddar and jalapeño biscuits) and finally 
the house specialty - rose petal flan. Rita prefers the Posole Rojo and the 
Pork and Poblano stew and sometimes she will forego the dessert for a second 
Negra Modelo. Yes indeed, this is going to be a full and pleasant Texas 
afternoon and, with his camera in tow, Richard will share some snaps with the 
others at FFL. They will be able to see what he did today and where he went. He 
knows that the folks like to see what he has been doing during the day. 
 

 
 First though, he must check the computer. Now that Dan is gone there is no 
longer the race to post. The post count will be his, just as it usually is. He 
is the king of the heap, he stands head and shoulders above the others who 
don’t have the endurance to hit the SEND button with the frequency and pleasure 
with which Richard, the pundit, does. He is the veteran, he knows the ropes, he 
has the comebacks, the answers, the macros stored and ready for any 
eventuality. Richard can wear down even the surliest, the most indignant and 
self righteous poster. He just laughs and laughs and laughs. It is a good life. 
Richard isn’t bothered if he is purportedly on the no-read list - he knows that 
eventually his messages could leak through the equivalent of a triple sealed 
and bottled Dos Equis. Those who associate him with Prairie Dogs or claim he is 
off his medication don’t know the truth - Richard is having fun and isn’t fun 
what a lot of this life is all about? You can TALK about advaitin, 
nididhyasana, na medhaya and abhijna all you like (and verbally duel Sanskrit 
terms and concepts all day long with Empty) but when it comes right down to it 
Richard is livin’ the life and there’s no place like Texas to be doing it.
 

[FairfieldLife] Stock up on chocolate?

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

Ebola is threatening chocolate now.

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/10/ebola-chocolate-industry-africa-effects-111809.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: Not so Farsighted...

[fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Yeah, agreed. Many of these "investigations" are as shoddy as a CBS/NBC/ABC 
piece on the US government, but it doesn't have to be a reason to shut down 
anything that is out of the ordinary (and I don't think you do, personally...). 
 Much of the widely disseminated 'alternative information' is crap, straight 
up. I agree that the pyramids were simply an amazing feat of engineering, like 
your channel tunnel, or the hoover dam (seriously).
 
 On the other hand, I can't dismiss, for example, the crop circles, out of 
hand, as always man-made. Perhaps some are, but I would think with drones, 
satellites, night vision, Google Earth, and all the other views, of the areas 
in Great Britain, where they appear, someone would have been able to clearly 
debunk them, by now. And they haven't. Doesn't make me a TB in any sense, but 
does sort of force me to keep an open mind.
 

 Regarding 9-11, I think it happened, just the way it was reported; some very 
bright, but insane, fanatics, were able to exploit weaknesses in the system, to 
cause a huge tragedy, which those in power pounced on, as an opportunity to win 
geo-political influence, gain territory, make money, and satisfy constituents. 
 

 I've studied the engineering reports, and it is very possible for the floors 
of the WTC I and II to pancake, as they did, beginning with just one - 
 The new (at the time) 1960's design ethic, for more interior space, with fewer 
interior columns, meant that the supporting outside framework quickly hit its 
weight limit, as successive floors collapsed on top of each other. After three 
or four concrete floors were stacked up, the momentum was unstoppable, all the 
way down. 
   ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Well Bhairitu, I've started perusing the videos on the remote viewing site and 
it's hard to convey how unimpressive it is. 
 

 The Pyramid one for instance starts with a lecture about not waiting for 
authority to disclose things but finding them out for yourself. And then asks 
you to take his word for it! The following babble is unbelievably clueless, 
talk of using sound to hover blocks of stone, battling alien races (where did 
they go and why did they leave no trace?) and worldwide slave labour! All to 
solve what isn't really a mystery - the pyramids weren't built with slaves and 
the stone was quarried nearby in the usual fashion with bronze axes and 
chisels, loads of which are lying around still.
 

 Pervading it all is this same elite smugness that I see with the 9/11 
"truthers". That only they know the truth and you are stupid sheeple for 
believing the "authorities" version of what happened. They never finish the 
sentence by saying we should follow their authority instead. And a highly 
unorthodox and impossible to verify one at that.
 

 I always found it insulting to our ancestors that we can't credit them with 
enough wherewithal to build a few huge monuments, I know it's a backhanded 
compliment but it does us no credit to assume that just because we couldn't get 
organisation like that together there's no way they could have, we didn't have 
the sort of devotional society they had. They may not even have had minds that 
worked in the same way as us. 
 

 Whatever the RV'ers daydream, the pyramids were built by humans. Don't let 
other people do your thinking for you, Brown's claim that the smart people in 
the military don't abandon things that don't work is correct, which is why they 
stopped research with these guys in the first place, and that was just for 
stuff they were looking for in Afghanistan, these guys are talking about things 
that happened decades or millennia ago and just taking the visions as fact! 
 

 His smugness and conviction might distract some from the fact there is no 
corroborating evidence but that's the first thing I look for when faced with a 
revolutionary idea. So I'll wait till someone digs up some of the aliens that 
allegedly helped or anything that shows that people couldn't have done it 
unaided but we already know they did! I remain unconvinced.
 

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[FairfieldLife] Time to ditch Columbus Day?

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

Why do we celebrate this creep anyway?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-kasum/columbus-day-a-bad-idea_b_742708.html

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Sophisticated Pre-Columbian Native American Civilizations and Cultures

[steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

there is business establishment I visit nearly every week, and so drive by the 
Cahokia Mounds on that trip. Sometimes my daughter is with me, and we will 
climb it for a bit of exercise. 

 If I go on the weekend, as the road there is populated by Hispanic eateries 
and stores, I will sometimes stop and get something to eat.
 

 On Saturdays, there is a guy who sells trays of fresh fruit, and I always stop 
and get one.
 

 Fresh mango, watermelon, honeydew, pineapple and some other fruits.  Those are 
the fruits I get plus a few pieces of cucumber.  
 

 I tell him I want salt, only on the cucumbers and lime juice on the rest.  
Sometimes he forgets.  Yesterday it was lime juice on everything.
 

 What I still can't get over, is the toppings the Hispanics go for.  
 

 Almost in every case they get cayenne pepper on the fruit, and sometimes I 
think even ketchup.
 

 Or maybe it is a sweet syrup.
 

 Trying to figure that one out.
 

 I'm always trying to pick up some vibe when I drive by the mounds, or climb 
up, but so far nothing has registered.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Native American Cahokia Mounds Near St Louis
  

 http://www.legendsofamerica.com/photos-illinois/CahokiaMounds-old.jpg 
http://www.legendsofamerica.com/photos-illinois/CahokiaMounds-old.jpg 
 
 
 http://www.legendsofamerica.com/photos-illinois/CahokiaMounds-old.jpg
 
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 Description: Cahokia was the largest and most influential urban settlement in 
the Mississippian culture which developed advanced societies across much of 
what is now the central and southeastern United States, beginning more than 500 
years before European contact.  Cahokia was the largest urban center north of 
the great Mesoamerican cities in Mexico.
 

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 Location: Cahokia is located on the site of a pre-Columbian Native American 
city (c. 600–1400 CE) situated directly across the Mississippi River from 
modern St. Louis, Missouri. The existing park covers about 3.5 square miles, 
and contains about 80 mounds, but the ancient city was actually much larger.  
At its peak, Cahokia covered about six square miles and included about 120 
human-made earthen mounds in a wide range of sizes, shapes, and functions.
  
 
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  Population:  Cahokia's population at its peak in the 1200s would not be 
surpassed by any city in the United States until the late 18th century.  
Although it was home to only about 1,000 people before c. 1050, its population 
grew explosively after that date. Archaeologists estimate the city's population 
at between 6,000 and 40,000 at its peak, with more people living in outlying 
farming villages that supplied the main urban center. If the highest population 
estimates are correct, Cahokia was larger than any subsequent city in the 
United States until the 1780s, when Philadelphia's population grew beyond 
40,000.
 

 Age: Although there is some evidence of Late Archaic period (approximately 
1200 BCE) occupation in and around the site,[6] Cahokia as it is now defined 
was settled around 1200 CE during the Late Woodland period.
  
 Metallurgy: 1950s by archaeologist Greg Perino found the only known copper 
workshop to be found at a Mississippian site. The area contains the remains of 
three tree stumps thought to have been used to hold anvil stones. Analysis of 
copper found during excavations showed that it had been annealed, a technique 
involving repeatedly heating and cooling the metal as it is worked, such as 
blacksmiths do with iron.
 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Turn up, tune out and drop one.

[steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

sal, please re-visit it yourself.  it could help with this rut you've sort of 
fallen into.  (-:
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Get tripping Fairfield, it could be the answer to your problems:
 

 Is it Time to Legalize Psychedelic Medicines for Therapeutic Use? 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] D Lynch

[steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

you better set Michael straight, Sal, and Barry too, for that matter.  they are 
both under the impression that TM is, like, totally ineffective, baby 
meditation.  but here you are describing it as a strong gateway "drug" 

 heaven help us!
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Appreciate you sharing the story. It serves to illustrate what total complete 
assholes the Movement is made of and what incredibly stupid mentality is 
encouraged and taught in the Movement. And these are the people who want to 
teach our kids meditation in schools? No thanks.

 

 
I think it's quite sweet how they believe this stuff just because Marshy said 
so, and then go around claiming "nature support" and other bizarre powers. But 
every religion has its own little language and way of deluding themselves, I 
could live among them only because they tell you during the teaching process 
that you don't have to change your beliefs. I held them to it, and they didn't 
like me reminding them, apparently I was "supposed" to have absorbed the 
teaching by the time I was a well practised "siddha". How we all laughed
 

 I agree with you about schools though, I've no objection to kids learning to 
meditate but TM is such a strong gateway drug it's easy to get swept up in the 
hyperbole, and if you show any sort of keenness that gets put on the database 
and you get invited to donate to pundits and yagyas and all that bull. Some of 
them will even end up bouncing around on their backsides for hours every day.
 

 Keep religion out of schools. That's what I say.
 

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 3:05 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] D Lynch
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 C'mon! They didn't really claim Lynch's smoking is his self referral??

 

 Of course they did! The statement means nothing so it can be co-opted to 
support anything you like.
 

 I had it explained to me by our "raja", he said that what you do is close your 
eyes and look inwards at your "self" and it will tell you if something is 
right. I always that that was called desire or even just agreeing with yourself 
and didn't know why the TMO gave it a special name but it's like that with a 
lot of kooky spiritual stuff, makes them think they have better life skills 
than the rest of us.
 

 The example he used on me was astrology, when I told I thought it was a crock 
he said he wondered about it too until he looked at his "self" and found he 
agreed with himself. (?)
 

 Maybe we should do that with 9/11 conspiracies and see how the "self" guides 
us. LOL.
 

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 5:02 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] D Lynch
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 He'd probably weigh over 300 pounds if he quit both. 
 

 I think Bevan Morris should get back on the fags then, and Hagelin is looking 
a but chubby these days. I can just see them on the Marshy channel stubbing one 
out in an ashtray and swigging back the dregs of a 'cino before puja. It's 
vedic, they'll cough.
 

 They had to find a way of excusing Lynchees habits, so they claimed it was 
self-referral. Like that explains anything at all.
 

  He is probably typical American pitta-kapha and kapha dominant too much of 
the time.  Those two substances are known in ayurveda to reduce kapha.  My late 
tantra guru probably would not have have died of congestive heart failure if he 
had not quit smoking.  He immediately put on weight when he quit.  I also think 
that people who are kapha will be less likely get emphysema from smoking as 
that tends to happen more with vata types.
 
 Creative people often fight with having a creative mindset and being able to 
act on it.  For instance a lot of jazz musicians were bright people who easily 
learned their instruments and music theory but a bit too high strung to play 
well without some help from drugs (or some meditation).
  
 On 10/11/2014 11:27 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   "I must have a very high tolerance for caffeine," he says. "I always 
associated smoking and drinking coffee with the art life. They go hand in hand. 
There's something about drinking coffee and smoking that makes me happy and 
facilitates thinking. I just really love those things." - David Lynch

 



 



 













 


 

[FairfieldLife] The New Yorker - the 28 pages and 9/11

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

New Yorker article about the 28 pages that were redacted from the 
official 9/11 Report and how the Saudis support their publication.

http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/twenty-eight-pages

[FairfieldLife] Ebola, the new ISIS [1 Attachment]

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

/"There are already more than 350 U.S. troops on the ground in West 
Africa, mostly in Liberia, including a handful from the 101st."/


U.S. military faces new kind of threat with Ebola:
http://news.yahoo.com/u-military-faces-kind-threat-ebola-073048900--finance.html



/U.S. Army soldiers from the 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault)/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Fall Of Baghdad

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 10/12/2014 1:33 PM, lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] wrote:


Shrug. We have no idea what American Indian civilization would be like 
500+ years later.



>
/Non sequitur. The U.S. and its allies had won the war against al Qaeda 
in Iraq, according to Obama and Biden. Now just a year later we've lost 
everything. /


"America's plans to fight Islamic State are in ruins as the militant 
group's fighters come close to capturing Kobani and have inflicted a 
heavy defeat on the Iraqi army west of Baghdad. The US-led air attacks 
launched against Islamic State (also known as Isis) on 8 August in Iraq 
and 23 September in Syria have not worked."


'War against Isis: US strategy in tatters as militants march on'
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/war-against-isis-us-strategy-in-tatters-as-militants-march-on-9789230.html
>



And certainly, ISIS is a primitive, violent group of thugs by modern 
standards.


My only point is that you don't have to go very far back to see the 
same kind of behavior from the West, so the sense of smug superiority 
I get from some people is not particuarly supportable.


Certainly, it's not terribly useful. We have to work with moderate 
Muslims to solve the issues, and the "we're so much better than the 
ragheads" attitude isn't helping any.



L


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Sounds like you're justifying ISIS's actions. True, that was typical 
of conquering armies in the past due to the practicality of waging 
war. However we consider our selves a *bit* more civilized today. We 
don't target innocent civilians, force them to convert and then kill 
them anyway, we don't steel supplies, we buy it if we don't bring it 
and we observe a uniform code of  military conduct observed by almost 
all nations. Even they said *nobody owned the land*, so it wasn't theirs either by 
their own logic. We did give them about 24 dollars and some beads for 
Manhattan and perpetual welfare for  next to eternity along with a 
reservation if they wanted to stay there. Not saying it was a good 
deal for NAs, but it was the best that could offered at the time. Had 
Europeans never made it to the Americas, they, NAs, would still be 
living in the stone age today, chasing buffalo herds on foot, living 
in *harmony* with nature, and killing each other over hunting grounds. 
Some times *change* requires a phase transition.



On Saturday, October 11, 2014 8:24 PM, "LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 wrote:



Christian Crusaders did the same thing, and don't fool yourself, if 
Americans ever "conquered" a country, we'd do the same thing too.


Ask any American Indian tribe if you need examples.

L


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

They're supplied the same way Mohammed supplied his *army*. They just 
take whatever they want, wherever they go. Whether it's money from 
banks, food from stockpiles, or weapons, ammunition and 
transportation from Iraqi army bases. This is your Islamic *work 
ethic*. Real work is for mensches.



On Saturday, October 11, 2014 2:18 PM, "'Richard J. Williams' 
punditster@... [FairfieldLife]"  wrote:



On 10/11/2014 2:42 PM, jr_esq@...  [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:



Something is wrong with the US generals' assessment of ISIS.

>
/There is no good news coming out of the Middle East - the
U.S. supports the Saudis who are Shite Muslims; and at the
same time Iranians support the Shiite in Baghdad. But, the
ISIS are Sunnis who hate everyone, Muslim and infidel alike.
Then, there's Assad to deal with. The only bright spot over
there is Israel, the only democracy in the whole Middle East.
Go figure.
>
/

How is it possible for the militants to continue fighting in
Iraq and Syria with supposedly only 30,000 fighters?

It appears that the militant rebels in or near Baghdad are
self-sufficient to fight on their own without help from their
Syrian headquarters.  So, that means they're getting food,
supplies and ammunition within Baghdad itself.

I wouldn't be surprised if a secret faction within the ISF is
providing the weapons and ammunition to fight the loyal
troopers of Iraq.

>

/"Without large numbers of American troops on the ground in
Iraq, we lack the ability to choose targets, to rebuild the
capacity of the Iraqi Army quickly and successfully, to
constrain the Shiite government from pursuing a sectarian
agenda. Without large numbers of troops in Syria, we are
unable to distinguish between friend and foe, to train and
direct non-Qaeda opposition forces, to address the
humanitarian crisis, and to prepare for—and hasten—a world
without Bashar Assad."/

'Only American ground troops can defeat the Islamic State'
The Washington Free Beacon:
http://freebeacon.com/columns/acc

[FairfieldLife] Warning! Avoid Public Places [1 Attachment]

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

NEW YORK --- Police said a man climbed out of a sidewalk grate and 
hurled a smoke bomb into a Greenwich Village restaurant Friday evening, 
before climbing back underground and vanishing...


'Police: Man Climbs Out Of Grate, Throws Smoke Bombs In Greenwich 
Village Restaurant'

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/10/10/police-man-climbs-out-of-grate-throws-smoke-bombs-in-greenwich-village-restaurant/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Not so Farsighted...

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 10/12/2014 2:49 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

>


I'm now more interested in psychological studies to find why people 
get so upset with folks who like to investigate things like 9-11.

>
/So, now you've changed your mind about the "conspiracy" and you admit 
there was an attack on the WTC using planes? //

//>/
It seems to be some form of psychosis.  If I'm a "truther" does that 
make you a "liar"? :-D

>
/Non sequitur. It has already been established that ///"If you don't 
agree with every single word of this guy's rant, YOU'RE FUCKED UP IN THE 
HEAD.//"/


Duveyoung Wed, 08 Oct 2014 10:02:10 -0700
http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg332298.html/
>


BTW, we're not being smug, just raising questions and trying to make 
folks aware of some things.  The smugness is in your head.

>
/"O'Keefe denied the plausibility that the September 11 attacks were 
committed by Osama bin Laden and the 19 hijackers. He claimed it was an 
inside job and that the US government and intelligence agencies, 
including Mossad were responsible."/


/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_O%27Keefe/
>



On 10/12/2014 11:07 AM, salyavin808 wrote:


Well Bhairitu, I've started perusing the videos on the remote viewing 
site and it's hard to convey how unimpressive it is.



The Pyramid one for instance starts with a lecture about not waiting 
for authority to disclose things but finding them out for yourself. 
And then asks you to take his word for it! The following babble is 
unbelievably clueless, talk of using sound to hover blocks of stone, 
battling alien races (where did they go and why did they leave no 
trace?) and worldwide slave labour! All to solve what isn't really a 
mystery - the pyramids weren't built with slaves and the stone was 
quarried nearby in the usual fashion with bronze axes and chisels, 
loads of which are lying around still.



Pervading it all is this same elite smugness that I see with the 9/11 
"truthers". That only they know the truth and you are stupid sheeple 
for believing the "authorities" version of what happened. They never 
finish the sentence by saying we should follow their authority 
instead. And a highly unorthodox and impossible to verify one at that.



I always found it insulting to our ancestors that we can't credit 
them with enough wherewithal to build a few huge monuments, I know 
it's a backhanded compliment but it does us no credit to assume that 
just because we couldn't get organisation like that together there's 
no way they could have, we didn't have the sort of devotional society 
they had. They may not even have had minds that worked in the same 
way as us.



Whatever the RV'ers daydream, the pyramids were built by humans. 
Don't let other people do your thinking for you, Brown's claim that 
the smart people in the military don't abandon things that don't work 
is correct, which is why they stopped research with these guys in the 
first place, and that was just for stuff they were looking for in 
Afghanistan, these guys are talking about things that happened 
decades or millennia ago and just taking the visions as fact!



His smugness and conviction might distract some from the fact there 
is no corroborating evidence but that's the first thing I look for 
when faced with a revolutionary idea. So I'll wait till someone digs 
up some of the aliens that allegedly helped or anything that shows 
that people couldn't have done it unaided but we already know they 
did! I remain unconvinced.



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Not so Farsighted...

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

Yeah, Courtney can be a little hard to take but I watched the videos to 
see how they were doing their RV.  I got the "real deal" in tantra but 
we just call it "intuition" and the different ways you use it.


On 10/12/2014 01:46 PM, salyavin808 wrote:





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I'm now more interested in psychological studies to find why people 
get so upset with folks who like to investigate things like 9-11.  It 
seems to be some form of psychosis.  If I'm a "truther" does that make 
you a "liar"? :-D


Upset? Not me, I'm investigating it too, or rather I'm checking the 
claims made by people who think they can find answers by looking into 
the past somehow. So far I can't see that that is what they are doing. 
Are the 9/11 claims more realistic than the Egyptian ones? With the 
lack of corroborating evidence it seems the only way to agree is if 
you've decided there is a conspiracy of some sort anyway, it's not 
like there is a measurable standard of evidence being used here.


BTW, we're not being smug, just raising questions and trying to make 
folks aware of some things.  The smugness is in your head.


That was an observation not an accusation. But do seem unaware that 
what you have about 9/11 is unproven accusations and not any sort of 
proof.


But the guy in the video is /very/ smug, and /very/ elitist. The whole 
thing smacks of a "we are smarter than you because we know this and 
you stupid people just swallow what the 'authorities' tell you". I 
either agree with Courtney Brown or I'm letting other people think for 
me. I see another choice.


What all this basically lacks is an explanation of just where the past 
is supposed to be. The second law of thermodynamics tells us it aint 
there no more, so just where these guys go in their heads is beyond 
me. And there's no corroborating evidence for the claims made 
obviously. And an explanation for how it might work, even in linear 
time, might be nice.


But as I always say, we need to sort the signal from the noise and 
that will take corrobarative evidence, maybe they could point to where 
something made of an alien technology is buried so we could go dig it 
up? That would be convincing. But as it is they are making an argument 
from personal incredulity and should spend a bit more time reading 
about Egypt before concluding our ancestors couldn't have done it all 
themselves. Egyptologists (the authorities) hate the 
Johnny-come-lately's who stroll onto the Giza plateau and declare 
aliens must have been involved or whatever.


I wish history was all as easy to understand as RVers claim and this 
is the problem, they claim it's efficient knowledge and better than 
that gained by trained archaeologists. Can you imagine if this sort of 
thinking took over the education system? The internet is where this 
belongs, and all that that entails.. ...


Conclusion: I don't think this is a good place to look if you want 
answers to what you see as the questions about 9/11. Or anything.



On 10/12/2014 11:07 AM, salyavin808 wrote:

Well Bhairitu, I've started perusing the videos on the remote viewing 
site and it's hard to convey how unimpressive it is.



The Pyramid one for instance starts with a lecture about not waiting 
for authority to disclose things but finding them out for yourself. 
And then asks you to take his word for it! The following babble is 
unbelievably clueless, talk of using sound to hover blocks of stone, 
battling alien races (where did they go and why did they leave no 
trace?) and worldwide slave labour! All to solve what isn't really a 
mystery - the pyramids weren't built with slaves and the stone was 
quarried nearby in the usual fashion with bronze axes and chisels, 
loads of which are lying around still.



Pervading it all is this same elite smugness that I see with the 9/11 
"truthers". That only they know the truth and you are stupid sheeple 
for believing the "authorities" version of what happened. They never 
finish the sentence by saying we should follow their authority 
instead. And a highly unorthodox and impossible to verify one at that.



I always found it insulting to our ancestors that we can't credit 
them with enough wherewithal to build a few huge monuments, I know 
it's a backhanded compliment but it does us no credit to assume that 
just because we couldn't get organisation like that together there's 
no way they could have, we didn't have the sort of devotional society 
they had. They may not even have had minds that worked in the same 
way as us.



Whatever the RV'ers daydream, the pyramids were built by humans. 
Don't let other people do your thinking for you, Brown's claim that 
the smart people in the military don't abandon things that don't work 
is correct, which is why they stopped research with these guys in the 
first place, and that was just for stuff they were looking for in 
Afghanistan, these guys are talking about things that happened 
decades or millennia a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: LUCY - A film For Sidhas Who Loves Beautiful Women

[nablusoss1008]

 Very little violence in my opinion. Anyway violence is there everywhere and as 
long as you don't dwell on it or encourage it it it's ok, it would be foolish 
not to acknowledge it's excistence.
 Beautiful lips on an actor that has grown quite remarkable in recent years and 
Sidhis is what I remember from a film not among Luc Bessons best.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


 Very violent but a great Luc Besson film.  I saw a couple months back in the 
nearby theater.
 
 On 10/12/2014 12:03 PM, salyavin808 wrote:
 
   
 
 Are you sure, it looks a bit violent for sidhas
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: King Tony's Pedigree

[nablusoss1008]

I believe he said "We are against it" (not to say that he did not also say your 
quote). 
 

 I've read both, meaning the the same but "against" perhaps wittier 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 You are right, Seerdope, that's how I remember it, and as you say, it was a 
very clever and witty answer. Typical of MMY. He had a great sense of humor and 
loved to play with words. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I believe he said "We are against it" (not to say that he did not also say 
your quote).  

 Being "against it" to me is far richer in meaning, funnier, and to me 
characterizes his style of communication.  He spoke with different levels of 
meaning, with double (and triple) entendre (not sexual in instances that I 
heard).  His quip was funny, decoupling his words  from esoteria suitable for 
their focus on modern educated audiences, yet still conveying (what I believe) 
he meant.   
 

 Being against it means he was promoting a method (in his mind) that made 
reincarnation unnecessary.  If asked if he believed in the existance any 
curable disease, a witty doctor might say the same. 
 

 This is instructive (to me) -- a message that his, and any teacher's words 
need to be carefully parsed, not over generalized, viewed in its specific 
context and for what audience, don't assume its the full teach or truth being 
conveyed, and most importantly, loosen up, let your sense of humor blossom 
(more).
 

 His is I believe the traditional view that the seeds of reincarnation (the 
vast mountain of karma -- both the small chunk bitten off in this life 
(prarabdha karma) as well as the remainder of the huge yet to be dealt with 
(sanchita karma) are burned by the fires of knowledge (from Gita). 
 

 (And personally I do not count anything M said as authoritative. Nor that of 
(much) of any teacher or source of knowledge (or words). But for me, he did 
provide some useful starting points for personal investigation and validation.)
 

 Quick aside: paraphrasing an early day's conversation: 
 M: we all have a mountain of karma.
 CLutes (apparently believing he was quite far along on the path): "M, do I 
have a mountain of karma?"
 M: "You Charlie have more like a huge mountain range."
 

 What are the fires of knowledge? A number of possibilities, not necessarily 
mutually exclusive: 
 understanding and knowledge, 
 transcending,  
 kundalini rising and burning all latent samskaras in the chakras, culminating 
in the blooming of the crown chakra, 
 grace of a fully realized teacher, 
 grace of the divine
 other stuff

 

 And does "no reincarnation" mean no more individuality after the body drops? 
 

 (And my position is at least sympathetic with uber atheist Sam Harris who said 
in a funny quip, at a conference on death ( or something) with speakers across 
a full spectrum of views, paraphrasing "The key thing is we will all dance 
around the question and weave greatly nuanced and intricate answers, but the 
bottom line is none of us know what really happens when the physical body 
dies." 
 

 Reincarnation in human form does not preclude continuation of inner evolution 
in many astral and causal planes (Autobio of Yogi has good discussion of this).
 

 And is Moksha / Liberation (that is, all Sanchita Karma (the whole range, the 
big enchilada) is burned / roasted)  the same as "enlightenment"?  I suggest 
Liberation is the ultimate real thing, with a clear criteria. Enlightenment, at 
what ever stage, not so much. That is not to discount the freedom and 
contentment of any such stages and states.
 

 

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Not so Farsighted...

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 10/12/2014 1:07 PM, salyavin808 wrote:


Well Bhairitu, I've started perusing the videos on the remote viewing 
site and it's hard to convey how unimpressive it is.



>
/You failed to address the important issue, again: was the WTC attack an 
"inside job" in a conspiracy with the U.S. Government and the Israeli 
Mossad? According to Duveyoung, if you don't believe this you are 
"FUCKED UP IN THE HEAD."/


"If you don't agree with every single word of this guy's rant, YOU'RE 
FUCKED UP IN THE HEAD."


Duveyoung Wed, 08 Oct 2014 10:02:10 -0700
http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg332298.html

O'Keefe denied the plausibility that the September 11 attacks were 
committed by Osama bin Laden and the 19 hijackers. He claimed it was an 
inside job and that the US government and intelligence agencies, 
including Mossad were responsible.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_O%27Keefe

Subject: OT: Israel
From: John Manning
Group: alt.meditation.transcendental
Date: 8/8/2003
http://tinyurl.com/qf5x6t9

Debunking the 9/11 Myths: Special Report:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/engineering/architecture/911-myths
>



The Pyramid one for instance starts with a lecture about not waiting 
for authority to disclose things but finding them out for yourself. 
And then asks you to take his word for it! The following babble is 
unbelievably clueless, talk of using sound to hover blocks of stone, 
battling alien races (where did they go and why did they leave no 
trace?) and worldwide slave labour! All to solve what isn't really a 
mystery - the pyramids weren't built with slaves and the stone was 
quarried nearby in the usual fashion with bronze axes and chisels, 
loads of which are lying around still.



Pervading it all is this same elite smugness that I see with the 9/11 
"truthers". That only they know the truth and you are stupid sheeple 
for believing the "authorities" version of what happened. They never 
finish the sentence by saying we should follow their authority 
instead. And a highly unorthodox and impossible to verify one at that.



I always found it insulting to our ancestors that we can't credit them 
with enough wherewithal to build a few huge monuments, I know it's a 
backhanded compliment but it does us no credit to assume that just 
because we couldn't get organisation like that together there's no way 
they could have, we didn't have the sort of devotional society they 
had. They may not even have had minds that worked in the same way as us.



Whatever the RV'ers daydream, the pyramids were built by humans. Don't 
let other people do your thinking for you, Brown's claim that the 
smart people in the military don't abandon things that don't work is 
correct, which is why they stopped research with these guys in the 
first place, and that was just for stuff they were looking for in 
Afghanistan, these guys are talking about things that happened decades 
or millennia ago and just taking the visions as fact!



His smugness and conviction might distract some from the fact there is 
no corroborating evidence but that's the first thing I look for when 
faced with a revolutionary idea. So I'll wait till someone digs up 
some of the aliens that allegedly helped or anything that shows that 
people couldn't have done it unaided but we already know they did! I 
remain unconvinced.



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: King Tony's Pedigree

[feste37]

You are right, Seerdope, that's how I remember it, and as you say, it was a 
very clever and witty answer. Typical of MMY. He had a great sense of humor and 
loved to play with words. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I believe he said "We are against it" (not to say that he did not also say 
your quote).  

 Being "against it" to me is far richer in meaning, funnier, and to me 
characterizes his style of communication.  He spoke with different levels of 
meaning, with double (and triple) entendre (not sexual in instances that I 
heard).  His quip was funny, decoupling his words  from esoteria suitable for 
their focus on modern educated audiences, yet still conveying (what I believe) 
he meant.   
 

 Being against it means he was promoting a method (in his mind) that made 
reincarnation unnecessary.  If asked if he believed in the existance any 
curable disease, a witty doctor might say the same. 
 

 This is instructive (to me) -- a message that his, and any teacher's words 
need to be carefully parsed, not over generalized, viewed in its specific 
context and for what audience, don't assume its the full teach or truth being 
conveyed, and most importantly, loosen up, let your sense of humor blossom 
(more).
 

 His is I believe the traditional view that the seeds of reincarnation (the 
vast mountain of karma -- both the small chunk bitten off in this life 
(prarabdha karma) as well as the remainder of the huge yet to be dealt with 
(sanchita karma) are burned by the fires of knowledge (from Gita). 
 

 (And personally I do not count anything M said as authoritative. Nor that of 
(much) of any teacher or source of knowledge (or words). But for me, he did 
provide some useful starting points for personal investigation and validation.)
 

 Quick aside: paraphrasing an early day's conversation: 
 M: we all have a mountain of karma.
 CLutes (apparently believing he was quite far along on the path): "M, do I 
have a mountain of karma?"
 M: "You Charlie have more like a huge mountain range."
 

 What are the fires of knowledge? A number of possibilities, not necessarily 
mutually exclusive: 
 understanding and knowledge, 
 transcending,  
 kundalini rising and burning all latent samskaras in the chakras, culminating 
in the blooming of the crown chakra, 
 grace of a fully realized teacher, 
 grace of the divine
 other stuff

 

 And does "no reincarnation" mean no more individuality after the body drops? 
 

 (And my position is at least sympathetic with uber atheist Sam Harris who said 
in a funny quip, at a conference on death ( or something) with speakers across 
a full spectrum of views, paraphrasing "The key thing is we will all dance 
around the question and weave greatly nuanced and intricate answers, but the 
bottom line is none of us know what really happens when the physical body 
dies." 
 

 Reincarnation in human form does not preclude continuation of inner evolution 
in many astral and causal planes (Autobio of Yogi has good discussion of this).
 

 And is Moksha / Liberation (that is, all Sanchita Karma (the whole range, the 
big enchilada) is burned / roasted)  the same as "enlightenment"?  I suggest 
Liberation is the ultimate real thing, with a clear criteria. Enlightenment, at 
what ever stage, not so much. That is not to discount the freedom and 
contentment of any such stages and states.
 

 

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Not so Farsighted...

[salyavin808]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I'm now more interested in psychological studies to find why people get so 
upset with folks who like to investigate things like 9-11.  It seems to be some 
form of psychosis.  If I'm a "truther" does that make you a "liar"? :-D 
 

 Upset? Not me, I'm investigating it too, or rather I'm checking the claims 
made by people who think they can find answers by looking into the past 
somehow. So far I can't see that that is what they are doing. Are the 9/11 
claims more realistic than the Egyptian ones? With the lack of corroborating 
evidence it seems the only way to agree is if you've decided there is a 
conspiracy of some sort anyway, it's not like there is a measurable standard of 
evidence being used here.
 
 BTW, we're not being smug, just raising questions and trying to make folks 
aware of some things.  The smugness is in your head.
 
 That was an observation not an accusation. But do seem unaware that what you 
have about 9/11 is unproven accusations and not any sort of proof.
 
But the guy in the video is very smug, and very elitist. The whole thing smacks 
of a "we are smarter than you because we know this and you stupid people just 
swallow what the 'authorities' tell you". I either agree with Courtney Brown or 
I'm letting other people think for me. I see another choice. 
 

 What all this basically lacks is an explanation of just where the past is 
supposed to be. The second law of thermodynamics tells us it aint there no 
more, so just where these guys go in their heads is beyond me. And there's no 
corroborating evidence for the claims made obviously. And an explanation for 
how it might work, even in linear time, might be nice.
 

 But as I always say, we need to sort the signal from the noise and that will 
take corrobarative evidence, maybe they could point to where something made of 
an alien technology is buried so we could go dig it up? That would be 
convincing. But as it is they are making an argument from personal incredulity 
and should spend a bit more time reading about Egypt before concluding our 
ancestors couldn't have done it all themselves. Egyptologists (the authorities) 
hate the Johnny-come-lately's who stroll onto the Giza plateau and declare 
aliens must have been involved or whatever. 
 

 I wish history was all as easy to understand as RVers claim and this is the 
problem, they claim it's efficient knowledge and better than that gained by 
trained archaeologists. Can you imagine if this sort of thinking took over the 
education system? The internet is where this belongs, and all that that 
entails.. ...
 

 Conclusion: I don't think this is a good place to look if you want answers to 
what you see as the questions about 9/11. Or anything.
 

 
 On 10/12/2014 11:07 AM, salyavin808 wrote:
 
   Well Bhairitu, I've started perusing the videos on the remote viewing site 
and it's hard to convey how unimpressive it is. 
 
 
 The Pyramid one for instance starts with a lecture about not waiting for 
authority to disclose things but finding them out for yourself. And then asks 
you to take his word for it! The following babble is unbelievably clueless, 
talk of using sound to hover blocks of stone, battling alien races (where did 
they go and why did they leave no trace?) and worldwide slave labour! All to 
solve what isn't really a mystery - the pyramids weren't built with slaves and 
the stone was quarried nearby in the usual fashion with bronze axes and 
chisels, loads of which are lying around still.
 
 
 Pervading it all is this same elite smugness that I see with the 9/11 
"truthers". That only they know the truth and you are stupid sheeple for 
believing the "authorities" version of what happened. They never finish the 
sentence by saying we should follow their authority instead. And a highly 
unorthodox and impossible to verify one at that.
 
 
 I always found it insulting to our ancestors that we can't credit them with 
enough wherewithal to build a few huge monuments, I know it's a backhanded 
compliment but it does us no credit to assume that just because we couldn't get 
organisation like that together there's no way they could have, we didn't have 
the sort of devotional society they had. They may not even have had minds that 
worked in the same way as us. 
 
 
 Whatever the RV'ers daydream, the pyramids were built by humans. Don't let 
other people do your thinking for you, Brown's claim that the smart people in 
the military don't abandon things that don't work is correct, which is why they 
stopped research with these guys in the first place, and that was just for 
stuff they were looking for in Afghanistan, these guys are talking about things 
that happened decades or millennia ago and just taking the visions as fact! 
 
 
 His smugness and conviction might distract some from the fact there is no 
corroborating evidence but that's the first thing I look for when faced with a 
revolutionary idea. So I'll wait til

[FairfieldLife] Re: LUCY - A film For Sidhas Who Loves Beautiful Women

[seerd...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 
 Opinion, arguments & analyses from the editors of Scientific American
 Observations HomeAboutContact
 Lucy Film Hinges on Brain Capacity Myth
 By Kate Wong | July 25, 2014 |  2 
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/2014/07/25/lucy-film-hinges-on-brain-capacity-myth/#respond
 The views expressed are those of the author and are not necessarily those of 
Scientific American.
 
  
 
 Scarlett Johansson plays a woman who unlocks her brain power in the movie 
Lucy. Image: Universal Pictures
 On July 25, French film writer/director Luc Besson’s action thriller Lucy 
opens in theaters nationwide. The premise is that the title character, played 
by Scarlett Johansson, is exposed to a drug that unlocks her mind, giving her 
superhuman powers of cognition.  Themovie production notes  
http://www.lucymovie.com/pdf/lucy_production_notes.pdf[PDF] elaborate:
 “…It has long been hypothesized that human beings only use a small percentage 
of our cerebral capacity at any given time. For centuries, speculative science 
has postulated what would occur if mankind could actually evolve past that 
limit. Indeed, what would happen to our consciousness and newfound abilities if 
every region of the brain was concurrently active? If each one of the 86 
billion densely packed neurons in a human brain fired at once, could that 
person become, in fact, superhuman?”
 The notion that we humans have massive reserves of gray matter just sitting 
there waiting to be summoned into service has obvious appeal, but there is no 
scientific evidence to support it. And what’s odd about Besson’s reliance on 
this myth is that, according to the production notes, he allegedly set out to 
make the storyline scientifically plausible:
 “Although Besson believed that the idea of expanding one’s brain capacity made 
for tremendous action-thriller material, he was particularly intent on 
grounding—at least in part—Lucy in scientific fact.”
 Apparently he missed or ignored the many scientists who would have surely 
informed him that the idea that we use only a small portion of our brain (10 
percent, the story usually goes) is wrong. As Barry L. Beyerstein of the Brain 
Behavior Laboratory at Simon Fraser University in Vancouver explained 
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/do-we-really-use-only-10/ in a piece 
for Scientific American:
 “…the brain, like all our other organs, has been shaped by natural selection. 
Brain tissue is metabolically expensive both to grow and to run, and it strains 
credulity to think that evolution would have permitted squandering of resources 
on a scale necessary to build and maintain such a massively underutilized 
organ. Moreover, doubts are fueled by ample evidence from clinical neurology. 
Losing far less than 90 percent of the brain to accident or disease has 
catastrophic consequences. What is more, observing the effects of head injury 
reveals that there does not seem to be any area of the brain that can be 
destroyed by strokes, head trauma, or other manner, without leaving the patient 
with some kind of functional deficit. Likewise, electrical stimulation of 
points in the brain during neurosurgery has failed so far to uncover any 
dormant areas where no percept, emotion or movement is elicited by applying 
these tiny currents….”
 Neither do we regularly use only a little bit of the brain at a time, as 
science writer Robynne Boyd reported 
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/do-people-only-use-10-percent-of-their-brains/
 in a piece for Scientific American. She quoted neurologist Barry Gordon of the 
Johns Hopkins School of Medicine:
 “”It turns out though, that we use virtually every part of the brain, and that 
[most of] the brain is active almost all the time,” Gordon adds. “Let’s put it 
this way: the brain represents three percent of the body’s weight and uses 20 
percent of the body’s energy.”
 Yet just because we are already using our entire brain does not mean we can’t 
enhance its powers. Exercise and diet can boost cognitive performance 
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/six-ways-to-boost-brainpower/. And 
some researchers think cognitive training can make people smarter 
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/scientists-design-exercises-that-make-you-smarter/.
 As for cognitive-enhancing drugs, the few that are available, such as Ritalin 
and Provigil, are quite the opposite of the compound Lucy is exposed to in the 
film. Rather than stimulating all of the brain’s neurons to sense everything in 
one’s environment, these drugs work to help people zero in. The results are a 
mixed bag, however, as my colleague Gary Stix has observed 
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/2011/12/07/are-we-as-smart-or-dumb-as-we-can-get/:
 “Most of today’s cognitive enhancers improve our ability to focus—but most 
benefits accrue to those with attention deficits. They allow the child with 
ADHD to learn the multiplication tables, but for those with average attention 
spans 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: King Tony's Pedigree

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

I don't know if Billy, you hijacked the thread or not but "reincarnation 
is for the ignorant" is a typical Indian belief.  I wasn't even aware of 
it until I saw a Nat Geo or Discover channel documentary on funerals in 
different countries and they covered the burning ghats in Varanasi which 
I've seen. They mentioned that people come there to be cremated so they 
don't reincarnate but gurus aren't allowed because they gurus to come 
back and keep teaching.  Weird uh?


On 10/12/2014 10:44 AM, wgm4u wrote:





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

MMY also said, "Reincarnation is for the ignorant", which is kind of 
specious IMHO since everybody is ignorant! (i.e. short of 
enlightenment), therefore, Reincarnation is for everybody.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

On 10/1/2014 1:41 AM, salyavin808 wrote:


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
, 
 wrote :

Someone recently told me that Marshy referred to Nader as Ram
reincarnated, is that true?

It's true that Marshy spoke astounding amounts of crap that,
even if any of it was possible, he couldn't possibly have
known about.

But I never heard him actually say this one. Maybe I just
nodded off during the "weight in gold" moment or the 96 hour
introduction to his book of "discoveries" about human physiology.

>Maharishi selected Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam because: /"he loves the 
most"

There is some doubt that either of you ever heard or were in
the presence of MMY to hear him speak, whether nodded or not.
Go figure./

>Maharishi selected
/There is some doubt that either of you ever heard or were in
the presence of MMY to hear him speak, whether nodded or not.
Go figure./

Re: [FairfieldLife] Traditional Practices and Evolutionary Advantage

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

My comment was about your first sentence.  The rest I didn't have time 
to parse but I will say you are correct that most other paths don't need 
scientific validation.  I didn't start TM because of the "scientific 
studies" but to see if it worked.  I suspect you didn't start because of 
those either.  I think it is an excuse for making TM prices high.


On 10/11/2014 06:58 PM, seerd...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


Bhairitu said: "Science knows shit about tantra and mantra shastra. 
You're looking the wrong way. "



My post was not looking to science to validate tantra or mantra 
shastra or any traditional knowledge.


Just the opposite. My point was a statement of disagreement with the 
claim of rationalists that traditional knowledge consists of only 
primitive superstitions with no foundation (I include a vast array of 
practices, rituals, ceremonies, points of view, customs, processes, 
lifestyles, diets, medicine, exercise, meditation, yoga, chanting, 
sound, cosmologies,observed correlations (beyond the spurious), 
assumptions about causal factors, etc, across many cultures in the 
term "traditional knowledge).


Traditional knowledge has generally undergone a series of vast 
duration longitudinal studies with literally life and death 
consequences (for individuals and entire cultures). Nothing in the 
social or medical sciences have or are able to do anything remotely 
similar. It is a different type, yet in my view quite valid form of 
research.  That which actually works survives as do the cultures that 
maintain and practice it.


Thus, it is my view that traditional knowledge in many forms already 
have some proven value. Based on ones needs, inclinations, and 
resources many forms of traditional knowledge are quite worthy of 
personal investigation and experimentation -- that is, does it work 
for me, does it bring positive value to my life (and others.


Science is like a hammer. Very effective, but it can only hit nails -- 
and it looks for nails to hit -- a small subset of worthy areas of 
investigation. That is, its tools and methods are not yet capable of 
meaningfully studying many aspects of traditional knowledge -- though 
certainly some useful progress has been made.


For example, the 1000's of studies on traditional herbs.  While only a 
subset are double blind, placebo based studies of significant sample 
size, a lot of fascinating understanding has been uncovered. And such 
studies at imply that there is "some there, there".to traditional 
herbs and more broadly -- though more indirectly make other forms of 
traditional knowledge more plausible -- at least worthy of investigation.


The advances in brain and cognitive science  and related fields over 
the past 10 years has been startling. And the progress in 
methodologies, analysis, imaging and other technologies, appears to be 
accelerating.  Over the next 10-20 years, many forms of traditional 
knowledge may be able to be better investigated by science -- 
enhancing both science and the traditions and cultures that maintain 
and teach traditional knowledge.


But no need to wait for scads of peer reviewed double blind placebo 
studies to begin personal experimentation and validation of many forms 
of traditional knowledge.

[FairfieldLife] Animal Life Forms on Mars

[jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Could rocks have life and move on their own?
 

 
http://www.examiner.com/article/astronomer-discovers-animal-life-form-on-mars-from-nasa-images?cid=taboola_inbound
 
http://www.examiner.com/article/astronomer-discovers-animal-life-form-on-mars-from-nasa-images?cid=taboola_inbound

Re: [FairfieldLife] Not so Farsighted...

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

I'm now more interested in psychological studies to find why people get 
so upset with folks who like to investigate things like 9-11.  It seems 
to be some form of psychosis.  If I'm a "truther" does that make you a 
"liar"? :-D


BTW, we're not being smug, just raising questions and trying to make 
folks aware of some things.  The smugness is in your head.


On 10/12/2014 11:07 AM, salyavin808 wrote:


Well Bhairitu, I've started perusing the videos on the remote viewing 
site and it's hard to convey how unimpressive it is.



The Pyramid one for instance starts with a lecture about not waiting 
for authority to disclose things but finding them out for yourself. 
And then asks you to take his word for it! The following babble is 
unbelievably clueless, talk of using sound to hover blocks of stone, 
battling alien races (where did they go and why did they leave no 
trace?) and worldwide slave labour! All to solve what isn't really a 
mystery - the pyramids weren't built with slaves and the stone was 
quarried nearby in the usual fashion with bronze axes and chisels, 
loads of which are lying around still.



Pervading it all is this same elite smugness that I see with the 9/11 
"truthers". That only they know the truth and you are stupid sheeple 
for believing the "authorities" version of what happened. They never 
finish the sentence by saying we should follow their authority 
instead. And a highly unorthodox and impossible to verify one at that.



I always found it insulting to our ancestors that we can't credit them 
with enough wherewithal to build a few huge monuments, I know it's a 
backhanded compliment but it does us no credit to assume that just 
because we couldn't get organisation like that together there's no way 
they could have, we didn't have the sort of devotional society they 
had. They may not even have had minds that worked in the same way as us.



Whatever the RV'ers daydream, the pyramids were built by humans. Don't 
let other people do your thinking for you, Brown's claim that the 
smart people in the military don't abandon things that don't work is 
correct, which is why they stopped research with these guys in the 
first place, and that was just for stuff they were looking for in 
Afghanistan, these guys are talking about things that happened decades 
or millennia ago and just taking the visions as fact!



His smugness and conviction might distract some from the fact there is 
no corroborating evidence but that's the first thing I look for when 
faced with a revolutionary idea. So I'll wait till someone digs up 
some of the aliens that allegedly helped or anything that shows that 
people couldn't have done it unaided but we already know they did! I 
remain unconvinced.



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: LUCY - A film For Sidhas Who Loves Beautiful Women

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

Very violent but a great Luc Besson film.  I saw a couple months back in 
the nearby theater.


On 10/12/2014 12:03 PM, salyavin808 wrote:



Are you sure, it looks a bit violent for sidhas

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: King Tony's Pedigree

[seerd...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I believe he said "We are against it" (not to say that he did not also say your 
quote).  

 Being "against it" to me is far richer in meaning, funnier, and to me 
characterizes his style of communication.  He spoke with different levels of 
meaning, with double (and triple) entendre (not sexual in instances that I 
heard).  His quip was funny, decoupling his words  from esoteria suitable for 
their focus on modern educated audiences, yet still conveying (what I believe) 
he meant.   
 

 Being against it means he was promoting a method (in his mind) that made 
reincarnation unnecessary.  If asked if he believed in the existance any 
curable disease, a witty doctor might say the same. 
 

 This is instructive (to me) -- a message that his, and any teacher's words 
need to be carefully parsed, not over generalized, viewed in its specific 
context and for what audience, don't assume its the full teach or truth being 
conveyed, and most importantly, loosen up, let your sense of humor blossom 
(more).
 

 His is I believe the traditional view that the seeds of reincarnation (the 
vast mountain of karma -- both the small chunk bitten off in this life 
(prarabdha karma) as well as the remainder of the huge yet to be dealt with 
(sanchita karma) are burned by the fires of knowledge (from Gita). 
 

 (And personally I do not count anything M said as authoritative. Nor that of 
(much) of any teacher or source of knowledge (or words). But for me, he did 
provide some useful starting points for personal investigation and validation.)
 

 Quick aside: paraphrasing an early day's conversation: 
 M: we all have a mountain of karma.
 CLutes (apparently believing he was quite far along on the path): "M, do I 
have a mountain of karma?"
 M: "You Charlie have more like a huge mountain range."
 

 What are the fires of knowledge? A number of possibilities, not necessarily 
mutually exclusive: 
 understanding and knowledge, 
 transcending,  
 kundalini rising and burning all latent samskaras in the chakras, culminating 
in the blooming of the crown chakra, 
 grace of a fully realized teacher, 
 grace of the divine
 other stuff

 

 And does "no reincarnation" mean no more individuality after the body drops? 
 

 (And my position is at least sympathetic with uber atheist Sam Harris who said 
in a funny quip, at a conference on death ( or something) with speakers across 
a full spectrum of views, paraphrasing "The key thing is we will all dance 
around the question and weave greatly nuanced and intricate answers, but the 
bottom line is none of us know what really happens when the physical body 
dies." 
 

 Reincarnation in human form does not preclude continuation of inner evolution 
in many astral and causal planes (Autobio of Yogi has good discussion of this).
 

 And is Moksha / Liberation (that is, all Sanchita Karma (the whole range, the 
big enchilada) is burned / roasted)  the same as "enlightenment"?  I suggest 
Liberation is the ultimate real thing, with a clear criteria. Enlightenment, at 
what ever stage, not so much. That is not to discount the freedom and 
contentment of any such stages and states.
 

 

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] We aren't rattlesnake virgins, in paradise, anymore

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

Skunk.  I'm smelled them for years around here but had no idea they were 
getting into my backyard. I'll plug up wherever they're getting in.  The 
next door neighbor has a booth at the farmers market so I showed her the 
video. Their dog spooks the skunk sometimes and that's when it sprays.


I had to set the sensitivity to maximum or it wouldn't have caught the 
skunk.  I have to turn it down during the day because the wind blowing 
the bushes will trigger a video.  I may need to put Vaseline on the 
camera over the garage so spiders don't put webs across it and then it 
gets triggered too much.


On 10/12/2014 10:17 AM, j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


Skunk? Giant black snail? Chupacabra?



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

(Take two) I put a camera in back overlooking the patio and here's 
picture of a little visitor I had last night:


https://www.flickr.com/photos/75935037@N02/15329960719/

Good thing I had the patio door shut!

On 10/11/2014 07:58 PM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com 
 [FairfieldLife] wrote:



Has a biblical ring to it, huh?... My wife found the snake
(western diamondback?) on the patio, next to the house, this
evening. I hosed him off, into nearby shrubs. I'd rather make it
really uncomfortable, so he doesn't come back, vs. killing him,
and getting that whole cycle going... it is a lost cause to have
an antagonistic relationship with the animals here, but I have no
problem establishing my boundaries. You can see two or three
rattles in the picture, he's about a foot long -

[FairfieldLife] Re: LUCY - A film For Sidhas Who Loves Beautiful Women

[salyavin808]

 Are you sure, it looks a bit violent for sidhas

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

 Lucy TRAILER 1 (2014) - Luc Besson, Scarlett Johansson Movie HD 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: King Tony's Pedigree

[salyavin808]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 "We don't believe in reincarnation"
 -Maharishi

 

 

 Also, from the Maharishi quotes site:
 

 Asked if he believed in reincarnation: "I am opposed to it." 
 

Another time (holding a flower): "One carnation is enough."  
 http://dns.org.uk/TMCafe/Quotes.htm http://dns.org.uk/TMCafe/Quotes.htm

 

[FairfieldLife] LUCY - A film For Sidhas Who Loves Beautiful Women

[nablusoss1008]

 Lucy TRAILER 1 (2014) - Luc Besson, Scarlett Johansson Movie HD 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVt32qoyhi0
 
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVt32qoyhi0 
 
 Lucy TRAILER 1 (2014) - Luc Besson, Scarlett Johansso... 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: King Tony's Pedigree

[nablusoss1008]

"We don't believe in reincarnation"
 -Maharishi

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Fall Of Baghdad

[lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]]

Shrug. We have no idea what American Indian civilization would be like 500+ 
years later. 

 And certainly, ISIS is a primitive, violent group of thugs by modern standards.
 

 My only point is that you don't have to go very far back to see the same kind 
of behavior from the West, so the sense of smug superiority I get from some 
people is not particuarly supportable.
 

 Certainly, it's not terribly useful. We have to work with moderate Muslims to 
solve the issues, and the "we're so much better than the ragheads" attitude 
isn't helping any.
 

 

 L
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Sounds like you're justifying ISIS's  actions. True, that was typical of 
conquering armies in the past due to the practicality of waging war. However we 
consider our selves a *bit* more civilized today. We don't target innocent 
civilians, force them to convert and then kill them anyway, we don't steel 
supplies, we buy it if we don't bring it and we observe a uniform code of  
military conduct observed by almost all nations.  wrote:
 
 

   Christian Crusaders did the same thing, and don't fool yourself, if 
Americans ever "conquered" a country, we'd do the same thing too.
 

 Ask any American Indian tribe if you need examples.
 

 L
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 They're supplied the same way Mohammed supplied his *army*. They just take 
whatever they want, wherever they go. Whether it's money from banks, food from 
stockpiles, or weapons, ammunition and transportation from Iraqi army bases. 
This is your Islamic *work ethic*. Real work is for mensches.
 


 On Saturday, October 11, 2014 2:18 PM, "'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:
 
 

   
 On 10/11/2014 2:42 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:

   Something is wrong with the US generals' assessment of ISIS.  


 >
 There is no good news coming out of the Middle East - the U.S. supports the 
Saudis who are Shite Muslims; and at the same time Iranians support the Shiite 
in Baghdad. But, the ISIS are Sunnis who hate everyone, Muslim and infidel 
alike. Then, there's Assad to deal with. The only bright spot over there is 
Israel, the only democracy in the whole Middle East. Go figure.
 >
 How is it possible for the militants to continue fighting in Iraq and Syria 
with supposedly only 30,000 fighters?
 

 It appears that the militant rebels in or near Baghdad are self-sufficient to 
fight on their own without help from their Syrian headquarters.  So, that means 
they're getting food, supplies and ammunition within Baghdad itself.
 

 I wouldn't be surprised if a secret faction within the ISF is providing the 
weapons and ammunition to fight the loyal troopers of Iraq.




 >
 
 "Without large numbers of American troops on the ground in Iraq, we lack the 
ability to choose targets, to rebuild the capacity of the Iraqi Army quickly 
and successfully, to constrain the Shiite government from pursuing a sectarian 
agenda. Without large numbers of troops in Syria, we are unable to distinguish 
between friend and foe, to train and direct non-Qaeda opposition forces, to 
address the humanitarian crisis, and to prepare for—and hasten—a world without 
Bashar Assad."
 
 'Only American ground troops can defeat the Islamic State'
 The Washington Free Beacon:
 http://freebeacon.com/columns/accept-no-substitutes/ 
http://freebeacon.com/columns/accept-no-substitutes/
 >
 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
mailto:punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote :
 
 Our side is suffering serious defeats on the battlefield in Anbar province and 
Baghdad is ripe for infiltration. Then, it's a guerrilla war in the streets 
with up close and personal close range fighting.
 
 According to President Obama, it's a war against the Islamic State, but who 
are they? The goal is to roll back the IS in Iraq and contain it in Syria. 
Soon, Turkey will be pulled into the fight - the ISIS are at the gates today, 
tomorrow Istanbul and onwards to Rome.
 
 "With the outlying suburb of Abu Ghraib teetering on completely falling to 
ISIS, if the area comes under complete control of the Islamists, the Americans 
will be within easy range of ISIS artillery."
 
 'ISIS reaches Baghdad suburbs, US troops block the way to BGW Int'l Airport'
 
http://www.examiner.com/article/isis-reaches-baghdad-suburbs-us-troops-block-the-way-to-bgw-int-l-airport
 
http://www.examiner.com/article/isis-reaches-baghdad-suburbs-us-troops-block-the-way-to-bgw-int-l-airport





 

 














 


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sophisticated Pre-Columbian Native American Civilizations and Cultures

[seerd...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Native American Cahokia Mounds Near St Louis
  
 
 http://www.legendsofamerica.com/photos-illinois/CahokiaMounds-old.jpg 
http://www.legendsofamerica.com/photos-illinois/CahokiaMounds-old.jpg 
 
 
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 Description: Cahokia was the largest and most influential urban settlement in 
the Mississippian culture which developed advanced societies across much of 
what is now the central and southeastern United States, beginning more than 500 
years before European contact.  Cahokia was the largest urban center north of 
the great Mesoamerican cities in Mexico. 
 

 http://www.legendsofamerica.com/photos-illinois/CahokiaMounds-old.jpg 
http://www.legendsofamerica.com/photos-illinois/CahokiaMounds-old.jpg

 

 Location: Cahokia is located on the site of a pre-Columbian Native American 
city (c. 600–1400 CE) situated directly across the Mississippi River from 
modern St. Louis, Missouri. The existing park covers about 3.5 square miles, 
and contains about 80 mounds, but the ancient city was actually much larger.  
At its peak, Cahokia covered about six square miles and included about 120 
human-made earthen mounds in a wide range of sizes, shapes, and functions.
  
 
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  Population:  Cahokia's population at its peak in the 1200s would not be 
surpassed by any city in the United States until the late 18th century.  
Although it was home to only about 1,000 people before c. 1050, its population 
grew explosively after that date. Archaeologists estimate the city's population 
at between 6,000 and 40,000 at its peak, with more people living in outlying 
farming villages that supplied the main urban center. If the highest population 
estimates are correct, Cahokia was larger than any subsequent city in the 
United States until the 1780s, when Philadelphia's population grew beyond 
40,000.
 

 Age: Although there is some evidence of Late Archaic period (approximately 
1200 BCE) occupation in and around the site,[6] Cahokia as it is now defined 
was settled around 1200 CE during the Late Woodland period. 
  
 Metallurgy: 1950s by archaeologist Greg Perino found the only known copper 
workshop to be found at a Mississippian site. The area contains the remains of 
three tree stumps thought to have been used to hold anvil stones. Analysis of 
copper found during excavations showed that it had been annealed, a technique 
involving repeatedly heating and cooling the metal as it is worked, such as 
blacksmiths do with iron.
 

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 Engineering: Excavation on the top of Monks Mound has revealed evidence of a 
large building, likely a temple or the residence of the paramount chief, which 
would have been seen throughout the city. This building was about 105 ft (32 m) 
long and 48 feet (15 m) wide, and could have been as much as 50 ft (15 m) high. 
It was about 5,000 sq ft (460 m2).
 A large plaza located adjacent to Monks Mound was a place where games and 
public rituals took place. 
 In one of the earliest large-scale construction projects, the site had been 
expertly and deliberately leveled and filled by the city's inhabitants. It is 
part of the sophisticated engineering displayed throughout the site. The Grand 
Plaza covered roughly 50 acres (20 ha) and measured over 1,600 ft (490 m) in 
length by over 900 ft (270 m) in width. Along with the Grand Plaza to the 
south, three other very large plazas surround Monks Mound in the cardinal 
directions to the east, west, and north. The high-status district of Cahokia 
was surrounded by a long palisade that was equipped with protective bastions. 
W

[FairfieldLife] Not so Farsighted...

[salyavin808]

Well Bhairitu, I've started perusing the videos on the remote viewing site and 
it's hard to convey how unimpressive it is. 
 

 The Pyramid one for instance starts with a lecture about not waiting for 
authority to disclose things but finding them out for yourself. And then asks 
you to take his word for it! The following babble is unbelievably clueless, 
talk of using sound to hover blocks of stone, battling alien races (where did 
they go and why did they leave no trace?) and worldwide slave labour! All to 
solve what isn't really a mystery - the pyramids weren't built with slaves and 
the stone was quarried nearby in the usual fashion with bronze axes and 
chisels, loads of which are lying around still.
 

 Pervading it all is this same elite smugness that I see with the 9/11 
"truthers". That only they know the truth and you are stupid sheeple for 
believing the "authorities" version of what happened. They never finish the 
sentence by saying we should follow their authority instead. And a highly 
unorthodox and impossible to verify one at that.
 

 I always found it insulting to our ancestors that we can't credit them with 
enough wherewithal to build a few huge monuments, I know it's a backhanded 
compliment but it does us no credit to assume that just because we couldn't get 
organisation like that together there's no way they could have, we didn't have 
the sort of devotional society they had. They may not even have had minds that 
worked in the same way as us. 
 

 Whatever the RV'ers daydream, the pyramids were built by humans. Don't let 
other people do your thinking for you, Brown's claim that the smart people in 
the military don't abandon things that don't work is correct, which is why they 
stopped research with these guys in the first place, and that was just for 
stuff they were looking for in Afghanistan, these guys are talking about things 
that happened decades or millennia ago and just taking the visions as fact! 
 

 His smugness and conviction might distract some from the fact there is no 
corroborating evidence but that's the first thing I look for when faced with a 
revolutionary idea. So I'll wait till someone digs up some of the aliens that 
allegedly helped or anything that shows that people couldn't have done it 
unaided but we already know they did! I remain unconvinced.
 

 The Farsight Institute | Remote Viewing Nonprofit Research & Education 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: King Tony's Pedigree

[lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]]

 From what Maharishi said, anyone who attains CC is no longer going to be 
reincarnated, so, thus far, 17 people who report CC in the first study that 
Fred Travis did, and the (last I heard) 51 new people who report CC in the new 
study he's doing, are no longer sufficiently ignorant to reincarnate.
 

 

 Did I understand MMY correctly?
 

 Was MMY correct, regardless of my understanding?
 

 Are any of the 17 people in the first study or 51 people in teh 2nd study 
really in CC?
 

 /shrugs...
 

 

 L

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 MMY also said, "Reincarnation is for the ignorant", which is kind of specious 
IMHO since everybody is ignorant! (i.e. short of enlightenment), therefore, 
Reincarnation is for everybody.
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


 On 10/1/2014 1:41 AM, salyavin808 wrote:

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:mjackson74@... wrote :
 
 Someone recently told me that Marshy referred to Nader as Ram reincarnated, is 
that true? 

 

 It's true that Marshy spoke astounding amounts of crap that, even if any of it 
was possible, he couldn't possibly have known about.
 
 
 But I never heard him actually say this one. Maybe I just nodded off during 
the "weight in gold" moment or the 96 hour introduction to his book of 
"discoveries" about human physiology.


 >Maharishi selected Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam because: "he loves the most"

There is some doubt that either of you ever heard or were in the presence of 
MMY to hear him speak, whether nodded or not. Go figure.
   >Maharishi selected 
 There is some doubt that either of you ever heard or were in the presence of 
MMY to hear him speak, whether nodded or not. Go figure.
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: King Tony's Pedigree

[wgm4u]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 MMY also said, "Reincarnation is for the ignorant", which is kind of specious 
IMHO since everybody is ignorant! (i.e. short of enlightenment), therefore, 
Reincarnation is for everybody.
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


 On 10/1/2014 1:41 AM, salyavin808 wrote:

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:mjackson74@... wrote :
 
 Someone recently told me that Marshy referred to Nader as Ram reincarnated, is 
that true? 

 

 It's true that Marshy spoke astounding amounts of crap that, even if any of it 
was possible, he couldn't possibly have known about.
 
 
 But I never heard him actually say this one. Maybe I just nodded off during 
the "weight in gold" moment or the 96 hour introduction to his book of 
"discoveries" about human physiology.


 >Maharishi selected Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam because: "he loves the most"

There is some doubt that either of you ever heard or were in the presence of 
MMY to hear him speak, whether nodded or not. Go figure.
   >Maharishi selected 
 There is some doubt that either of you ever heard or were in the presence of 
MMY to hear him speak, whether nodded or not. Go figure.
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sophisticated Pre-Columbian Native American Civilizations and Cultures

[seerd...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 Puma Puncu -- Bolivia
 

 • Location: Puma Puncu is part of a large temple complex or monument group 
that is part of the site near Tiwanaku Bolivia, 45 miles west of La Paz high in 
the Andes mountains 
 

 • Description:   Puma Punku is a large temple complex or monument group that 
is part of the Tiwanaku Site near Tiwanaku, Bolivia. 
 At its peak, Pumapunku is thought to have been "unimaginably wondrous, adorned 
with polished metal plaques, brightly colored ceramic and fabric ornamentation, 
trafficked by costumed citizens, elaborately dressed priests and elites decked 
in exotic jewelry.  
 Tiwanaku is significant in Inca traditions because it is believed to be the 
site where the world was created.'
 The megalithic stones found here are among the largest on the planet, 
measuring up to 26 feet long and weighing more than 100 tons each.  An  
extensive infrastructure had been developed with a complex irrigation system 
running over 30 square miles (80 km2) to support potatoes, quinoa, corn and 
other various crops. At its peak the Tiwanaku culture dominated the entire Lake 
Titicaca basin as well as portions of Bolivia and Chile. 
 

 • Age: The radiocarbon date of the initial construction of the Pumapunku is 
536–600.The Tiwanaku civilization and the use of these temples appears to some 
to have peaked from 700 to 1000 CE. 
 

 • Population:  the temples and surrounding area may have been home to some 
400,000 people. 
 

 • Engineering:  Surveys using ground-penetrating radar, magnetometry, induced 
electrical conductivity, and magnetic susceptibility revealing the presence of 
numerous man-made structures including the wall foundations of buildings and 
compounds, water conduits, pool-like features, revetments, terraces, 
residential compounds, and widespread gravel pavements all of which now lie 
buried and hidden beneath the modern ground’s surface. 
 Notable features at Pumapunku are I-shaped architectural cramps, which are 
composed of a unique copper-arsenic-nickel bronze alloy.that hold the blocks 
comprising the walls and bottom of stone-lined canals that drain sunken courts. 
I-cramps of unknown composition were used to hold together the massive slabs 
that formed Pumapunku's four large platforms. In the south canal of the 
Pumapunku, the I-shaped cramps were cast in place. In sharp contrast, the 
cramps used at the Akapana canal were fashioned by the cold hammering of 
copper-arsenic-nickel bronze ingots.  
 Many of the joints are so precise that not even a razor blade will fit between 
the stones.[10] Much of the masonry is characterized by accurately cut 
rectilinear blocks of such uniformity that they could be interchanged for one 
another while maintaining a level surface and even joints. The blocks were so 
precisely cut as to suggest the possibility of prefabrication and mass 
production, technologies far in advance of the Tiwanaku’s Inca successors 
hundreds of years later.[9] Tiwanaku engineers were also adept at developing a 
civic infrastructure at this complex, constructing functional irrigation 
systems, hydraulic mechanisms, and waterproof sewage lines.
 

 • Architecture:  Puma Puncu was a large earthen platform mound with three 
levels of stone retaining walls thought to have resembled a square. Foundations 
often fitting stones directly to bedrock or digging precise trenches and 
carefully filling them with layered sedimentary stones to support and sustain 
the weight of these massive structures of large stone blocks. The largest of 
these stone blocks is 7.81 meters long, 5.17 meters wide, averages 1.07 meters 
thick, and is estimated to weigh about 131 metric tons. The second largest 
stone block found within the Pumapunku is 7.90 metres (25.9 feet) long, 2.50 
metres (8 feet 2 inches) wide, and averages 1.86 metres (6 feet 1 inch) thick. 
Its weight has been estimated to be 85.21 metric tons. 
 Based upon detailed petrographic and chemical analyses of samples from both 
individual stones and known quarry sites, archaeologists concluded that these 
and other red sandstone blocks were transported up a steep incline from a 
quarry near Lake Titicaca roughly 10 kilometres (6.2 miles) away. Smaller 
andesite blocks that were used for stone facing and carvings came from quarries 
within the Copacabana Peninsula about 90 kilometres (56 miles) away from and 
across Lake Titicaca from the Pumapunku and the rest of the Tiwanaku Site. In 
assembling the walls of Pumapunku, each stone was finely cut to interlock with 
the surrounding stones and the blocks fit together like a puzzle, forming 
load-bearing joints without the use of mortar. 
 One common engineering technique involves cutting the top of the lower stone 
at a certain angle, and placing another stone on top of it which was cut at the 
same angle.[4] The precision with which these angles have been utilized to 
create flush joints is indicative of a highly sophisticated knowledge of 
stone-cutting and a thorough underst

Re: [FairfieldLife] We aren't rattlesnake virgins, in paradise, anymore

[j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Skunk? Giant black snail? Chupacabra?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 (Take two) I put a camera in back overlooking the patio and here's picture of 
a little visitor I had last night:
 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/75935037@N02/15329960719/ 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/75935037@N02/15329960719/
 
 Good thing I had the patio door shut!
 
 On 10/11/2014 07:58 PM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com 
mailto:fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:

   Has a biblical ring to it, huh?... My wife found the snake (western 
diamondback?) on the patio, next to the house, this evening. I hosed him off, 
into nearby shrubs. I'd rather make it really uncomfortable, so he doesn't come 
back, vs. killing him, and getting that whole cycle going... it is a lost cause 
to have an antagonistic relationship with the animals here, but I have no 
problem establishing my boundaries. You can see two or three rattles in the 
picture, he's about a foot long -
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
 

[FairfieldLife] Turn up, tune out and drop one.

[salyavin808]

Get tripping Fairfield, it could be the answer to your problems:
 

 Is it Time to Legalize Psychedelic Medicines for Therapeutic Use? 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] D Lynch

[salyavin808]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Appreciate you sharing the story. It serves to illustrate what total complete 
assholes the Movement is made of and what incredibly stupid mentality is 
encouraged and taught in the Movement. And these are the people who want to 
teach our kids meditation in schools? No thanks.

 

 
I think it's quite sweet how they believe this stuff just because Marshy said 
so, and then go around claiming "nature support" and other bizarre powers. But 
every religion has its own little language and way of deluding themselves, I 
could live among them only because they tell you during the teaching process 
that you don't have to change your beliefs. I held them to it, and they didn't 
like me reminding them, apparently I was "supposed" to have absorbed the 
teaching by the time I was a well practised "siddha". How we all laughed
 

 I agree with you about schools though, I've no objection to kids learning to 
meditate but TM is such a strong gateway drug it's easy to get swept up in the 
hyperbole, and if you show any sort of keenness that gets put on the database 
and you get invited to donate to pundits and yagyas and all that bull. Some of 
them will even end up bouncing around on their backsides for hours every day.
 

 Keep religion out of schools. That's what I say.
 

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 3:05 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] D Lynch
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 C'mon! They didn't really claim Lynch's smoking is his self referral??

 

 Of course they did! The statement means nothing so it can be co-opted to 
support anything you like.
 

 I had it explained to me by our "raja", he said that what you do is close your 
eyes and look inwards at your "self" and it will tell you if something is 
right. I always that that was called desire or even just agreeing with yourself 
and didn't know why the TMO gave it a special name but it's like that with a 
lot of kooky spiritual stuff, makes them think they have better life skills 
than the rest of us.
 

 The example he used on me was astrology, when I told I thought it was a crock 
he said he wondered about it too until he looked at his "self" and found he 
agreed with himself. (?)
 

 Maybe we should do that with 9/11 conspiracies and see how the "self" guides 
us. LOL.
 

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 5:02 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] D Lynch
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 He'd probably weigh over 300 pounds if he quit both. 
 

 I think Bevan Morris should get back on the fags then, and Hagelin is looking 
a but chubby these days. I can just see them on the Marshy channel stubbing one 
out in an ashtray and swigging back the dregs of a 'cino before puja. It's 
vedic, they'll cough.
 

 They had to find a way of excusing Lynchees habits, so they claimed it was 
self-referral. Like that explains anything at all.
 

  He is probably typical American pitta-kapha and kapha dominant too much of 
the time.  Those two substances are known in ayurveda to reduce kapha.  My late 
tantra guru probably would not have have died of congestive heart failure if he 
had not quit smoking.  He immediately put on weight when he quit.  I also think 
that people who are kapha will be less likely get emphysema from smoking as 
that tends to happen more with vata types.
 
 Creative people often fight with having a creative mindset and being able to 
act on it.  For instance a lot of jazz musicians were bright people who easily 
learned their instruments and music theory but a bit too high strung to play 
well without some help from drugs (or some meditation).
  
 On 10/11/2014 11:27 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   "I must have a very high tolerance for caffeine," he says. "I always 
associated smoking and drinking coffee with the art life. They go hand in hand. 
There's something about drinking coffee and smoking that makes me happy and 
facilitates thinking. I just really love those things." - David Lynch

 



 



 













 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] We aren't rattlesnake virgins, in paradise, anymore

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

(Take two) I put a camera in back overlooking the patio and here's 
picture of a little visitor I had last night:


https://www.flickr.com/photos/75935037@N02/15329960719/

Good thing I had the patio door shut!

On 10/11/2014 07:58 PM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
[Attachment(s) <#TopText> from fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] included below]


Has a biblical ring to it, huh?... My wife found the snake (western 
diamondback?) on the patio, next to the house, this evening. I hosed 
him off, into nearby shrubs. I'd rather make it really uncomfortable, 
so he doesn't come back, vs. killing him, and getting that whole cycle 
going... it is a lost cause to have an antagonistic relationship with 
the animals here, but I have no problem establishing my boundaries. 
You can see two or three rattles in the picture, he's about a foot long -

Re: [FairfieldLife] We aren't rattlesnake virgins, in paradise, anymore

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

I put a camera in back overlooking the patio and this little guest 
showed up last night (hope the pic shows up):



On 10/11/2014 07:58 PM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
[Attachment(s) <#TopText> from fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] included below]


Has a biblical ring to it, huh?... My wife found the snake (western 
diamondback?) on the patio, next to the house, this evening. I hosed 
him off, into nearby shrubs. I'd rather make it really uncomfortable, 
so he doesn't come back, vs. killing him, and getting that whole cycle 
going... it is a lost cause to have an antagonistic relationship with 
the animals here, but I have no problem establishing my boundaries. 
You can see two or three rattles in the picture, he's about a foot long -

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ebola On A Plane! [1 Attachment]

[Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Richard, the thing is, if a person sneezes, there are droplets in the air. Not 
to get too gross! If Sneezy is on an airplane, then other passengers could very 
easily breath in those droplets.



On Sunday, October 12, 2014 10:44 AM, "'Richard J. Williams' 
pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]"  wrote:
 


  
[Attachment(s) from Richard J. Williams included below]
The problem is that we know so little about the transmission of Ebola. What if 
it turns out that an infection can be transmitted in the air? Apparently we 
have a Texas nurse getting the Ebola virus - can you get Ebola by walking down 
the hall in a hospital? Go figure. 

Also, if there is a breach of hospital protocol while caring for an Ebola 
patient and a worker gets Ebola, should the worker get fired? And, what happens 
if they check your temperature when you get on a plane to the U.S. and then you 
get a fever and throw up in the aisle while in flight?

So many questions, so few answers. Go figure.

(Reuters) - A Texas health worker who provided care for the first
  person diagnosed with Ebola in the United States has tested
  positive for the deadly virus in a preliminary examination, a
  state health official said on Sunday...

'Texas health care worker tests positive for Ebola'
http://news.yahoo.com/texas-health-care-worker-tests-positive-ebola-100052941.html



Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital, Dallas, Texas
>


It is very difficult to screen for Ebola. So far, there have been no cases of 
transmission on flights during this outbreak. The real problem is when the 
disease becomes airborne. So far, this hasn't happened yet either. Air-born 
Ebola on a plane is going to be a nightmare!   
>
>NEW YORK - Customs and health officials began taking the
  temperatures of passengers arriving at New York's Kennedy
  International Airport from three West African countries on
  Saturday in a stepped-up screening effort meant to prevent the
  spread of the Ebola virus...
>
>'Stepped-up Ebola screening starts at NYC airport'
>Associated Press:
>http://tinyurl.com/lcu9bw7
>
>"The UK is to begin screening some passengers who have traveled
  from Sierra Leone, Liberia and Guinea for signs of Ebola virus
  disease." 
>
>http://www.bbc.com/news/health-29549722
>
>Signs and symptoms of Ebola infection:
>
>Fever (greater than 38.6°C or 101.5°F)
>Severe headache
>Muscle pain
>Weakness
>Diarrhea
>Vomiting
>Abdominal (stomach) pain
>
>http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/symptoms/index.html 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Parody or Truth 4

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ann, to me you sound like a bit of an online bully, or at the very least 
insensitive. With the above LOL comment about bravery and with an earlier 
comment: I hope I don't insult anyone and if I do maybe they need to find a 
sense of humour.
 

 Oh dear, I actually feel you are acting a bit of a bully in what you say here. 
And, you still don't appear to have a sense of humor, that I can distinguish at 
any rate. And to single me out as the bully here on this forum is pretty 
hilarious and ironic. But then, I have pretty much come to the conclusion that 
you and I are about as different as any two human beings could ever be.
 

 

 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Questions 9-11

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

the TMO money laundering and smuggling, etc.

>
On 10/12/2014 2:49 AM, blue_bungalo...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


Young pundits and anybody from TMO, returning to india, each
person would be given particular quantity (legal) of gold.
As soon as the plane lands in india, TMO henchmen would be
waiting there to collect the gold, load the pundits on to
the waiting van, and off they go.

>
/So, how much money did you get //from the TMO? We already know that one 
FFL informant lived at a TM Center for five years and another FFL 
reporter got a free pod for two years at MIU./

>


So much gold was brought in, that they decided to make
jewellery and sell the gold. The TMO's finances are so murky
the you would never have the clear idea what happened to all
the money.

>
/Non sequitur. It has already been established that nobody knows the 
extent of TMO finances. What we want to know is what happened to all the 
money you got from the TMO./

[FairfieldLife] Sophisticated Pre-Columbian Native American Civilizations and Cultures

[seerd...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Dixon said: "
 Had Europeans never made it to the Americas, they, NAs, would still be living 
in the stone age today, chasing buffalo herds on foot, living in *harmony* with 
nature, and killing each other over hunting grounds. "
 

 History is written by the victors.  The Newcomers NC]  maintain massive 
simplistic myths about Native Americans civilizations, accomplishments and 
cultures.  
 

 1941 by Charles Mann is a good start -- though being 8 years old does not have 
all of the recent research:
 

   "...what human civilization in the Americas was like before the 
Europeans crashed the party. The history books most Americans were (and still 
are) raised on describe the continents before Columbus as a vast, underused 
territory, sparsely populated by primitives whose cultures would inevitably bow 
before the advanced technologies of the Europeans. For decades, though, among 
the archaeologists, anthropologists, paleolinguists, and others whose 
discoveries Charles C. Mann brings together in 1491, different stories have 
been emerging. ...  the Americas were a far more urban, more populated, and 
more technologically advanced region than generally assumed; and the Indians, 
rather than living in static harmony with nature, radically engineered the 
landscape across the continents, to the point that even "timeless" natural 
features like the Amazon rainforest can be seen as products of human 
intervention. ...  the most compelling of his eye-opening revisionist stories 
are among the best-founded: the stories of early American-European contact. To 
many of those who were there, the earliest encounters felt more like a meeting 
of equals than one of natural domination. And those who came later and found an 
emptied landscape that seemed ripe for the taking, Mann argues convincingly, 
encountered not the natural and unchanging state of the native American, but 
the evidence of a sudden calamity: the ravages of what was likely the greatest 
epidemic in human history, the smallpox and other diseases introduced 
inadvertently by Europeans to a population without immunity, which swept 
through the Americas faster than the explorers who brought it, and left behind 
for their discovery a land that held only a shadow of the thriving cultures 
that it had sustained for centuries before. " (Amazon)
 

 

 A 1491 Timeline
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 Europe and Asia Dates The Americas 25000-35000 B.C. Time of paleo-Indian 
migration to Americas from Siberia, according to genetic evidence. Groups 
likely traveled across the Pacific in boats. Wheat and barley grown from wild 
ancestors in Sumer. 6000 5000 In what many scientists regard as humankind's 
first and greatest feat of genetic engineering, Indians in southern Mexico 
systematically breed maize (corn) from dissimilar ancestor species. First 
cities established in Sumer. 4000 3000 The Americas' first urban complex, in 
coastal Peru, of at least 30 closely packed cities, each centered around large 
pyramid-like structures Great Pyramid at Giza 2650 32 First clear evidence of 
Olmec use of zero--an invention, widely described as the most important 
mathematical discovery ever made, which did not occur in Eurasia until about 
600 A.D., in India (zero was not introduced to Europe until the 1200s and not 
widely used until the 1700s) 800-840 A.D. Sudden collapse of most central Maya 
cities in the face of severe drought and lengthy war Vikings briefly establish 
first European settlements in North America. 1000 Reconstruction of Cahokia, c. 
1250 A.D.*Abrupt rise of Cahokia, near modern St. Louis, the largest city north 
of the Rio Grande. Population estimates vary from at least 15,000 to 100,000. 
Black Death devastates Europe. 1347-1351 1398 Birth of Tlacaélel, the brilliant 
Mexican strategist behind the Triple Alliance (also known as the Aztec empire), 
which within decades controls central Mexico, then the most densely settled 
place on Earth. The Encounter: Columbus sails from Europe to the Caribbean. 
1492 The Encounter: Columbus sails from Europe to the Caribbean. Syphilis 
apparently brought to Europe by Columbus's returning crew. 1493 Ferdinand 
Magellan departs from Spain on around-the-world voyage. 1519 Sixteenth-century 
Mexica drawing of the effects of smallpox**Cortes driven from Tenochtitlán, 
capital of the Triple Alliance, and then gains victory as smallpox, a European 
disease never before seen in the Americas, kills at least one of three in the 
empire. 1525-1533 The smallpox epidemic sweeps into Peru, killing as much as 
half the population of the Inka empire and opening the door to conquest by 
Spanish forces led by Pizarro. 1617 Huge areas of New England nearly 
depopulated by epidemic brought by shipwrecked French sailors. English Pilgrims 
arrive at Patuxet, an Indian village emptied by disease, and survive on stored 
Indian food, renaming the village Plymouth. 1620 
   
 

 ". "In a riv

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ebola On A Plane! [1 Attachment]

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

/The problem is that we know so little about the transmission of Ebola. 
What if it turns out that an infection can be transmitted in the air? 
Apparently we have a Texas nurse getting the Ebola virus - can you get 
Ebola by walking down the hall in a hospital? Go figure. /


/Also, if there is a breach of hospital protocol while caring for an 
Ebola patient and a worker gets Ebola, should the worker get fired? And, 
what happens if they check your temperature when you get on a plane to 
the U.S. and then you get a fever and throw up in the aisle while in 
flight?//

//
//So many questions, so few answers. Go figure./

(Reuters) - A Texas health worker who provided care for the first person 
diagnosed with Ebola in the United States has tested positive for the 
deadly virus in a preliminary examination, a state health official said 
on Sunday...


'Texas health care worker tests positive for Ebola'
http://news.yahoo.com/texas-health-care-worker-tests-positive-ebola-100052941.html



/Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital, Dallas, Texas/
>

/It is very difficult to screen for Ebola. So far, there have been no 
cases of transmission on flights during this outbreak. The real 
problem is when the disease becomes airborne. So far, this hasn't 
happened yet either. Air-born Ebola on a plane is going to be a 
nightmare! /


NEW YORK - Customs and health officials began taking the temperatures 
of passengers arriving at New York's Kennedy International Airport 
from three West African countries on Saturday in a stepped-up 
screening effort meant to prevent the spread of the Ebola virus...


'Stepped-up Ebola screening starts at NYC airport'
Associated Press:
http://tinyurl.com/lcu9bw7

"The UK is to begin screening some passengers who have traveled from 
Sierra Leone, Liberia and Guinea for signs of Ebola virus disease."


http://www.bbc.com/news/health-29549722

Signs and symptoms of Ebola infection:

Fever (greater than 38.6°C or 101.5°F)
Severe headache
Muscle pain
Weakness
Diarrhea
Vomiting
Abdominal (stomach) pain

http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/symptoms/index.html 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] 9/11 Points and Counterpoints

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 10/11/2014 10:22 PM, seerd...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


Bhairitu asked "What dog do you have in this anyway?  A check from 
Langley?"



I applied, stating my sole purpose was to meet  Carrie Mathison. 
Oddly, I never heard

back.

>
/Maybe instead of applying to the CIA in Langley, you should maybe visit 
the SAG in Hollywood in order to meet Carrie.//We already assumed that 
both Barry1 and Barry2 get checks from the U.S. government - they are 
both apparently truther-coders. Go figure./

[FairfieldLife] Des Moines Register video on Lynch MA in Film at MUM

[feste37]

Des Moines Register video about the David Lynch MA in Film at MUM. 

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/videos/news/local/kyle-munson/2014/10/11/17097593/
 
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/videos/news/local/kyle-munson/2014/10/11/17097593/
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] The big sky

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 10/12/2014 6:22 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
dear Fleetwood, even though I have sort of read your post containing 
list of possible responses

it is clearly a true lie  that made me LOL and COL
about the principles of dealing with rattlesnakes of all sorts, not to 
mention principals

therefore you suck at being a cult member
and so I am That, thou are that, etc.
but I'm gonna ignore your post anyway...unless I forget to!

>
/It looks like a return of the infamous Judy "MACRO". Why not just do 
like I do and post a comment on every post submitted? That way, you 
won't miss out on anything and we will have something to read. /

>



On Saturday, October 11, 2014 10:30 PM, 
"fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 wrote:



Thank you, and thank you - the parody was hilarious - always 
interesting to look in someone else's mirror of my online me. Yeah, I 
made a remark about MJ's by-now-familiar-but-not-by-him qualification. 
I am feeling left out from that experience, where you state 
explicitly, before any response, that you have not read the post, that 
you are responding to.


I would like to try that! Think of the possibilities, the blind 
agendas forwarded, the left-hand turns, down a dirt road! The next 
time someone makes a comment about *anything*, I'll respond like this:


Even though I haven't read [subject post],
it is clearly [a. an affirmation, b. a condemnation, c. an insane lie, 
d. an excellent joke],
about the principles of [a. cooking, b.TM, c. Enlightenment, d. shoes, 
e. horse shoes].
Therefore, you [a. suck, b. make a good point, c. aren't making any 
sense],

and so I [a. am, b. am not]
going to [a. dignify that with a response, b. remember that, and 
cherish it, c. tell you to fuck off].



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Wow! Talk about being at the right place, at the right time. I get 
mystery and life from water, and satisfaction and wonder from earth, 
and blessed dreams and inspiration, from the air, wind, clouds, sun, 
and stars.


You are indeed a fortunate and, if I might use the term, blessed man, 
Mac. And thanks for the wonder woman parody of me, I had a good 
chuckle. I hope you weren't offended by mine, I meant it all in the 
friendliest of ways but you never know how these things are gonna fly. 
Apparently MJ is too afraid to read the one I wrote about him - maybe 
he thinks he might recognize himself from what I wrote.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

So Fresh, isn't it? Akasha









---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Me too, Fleet, I love seeing the sun and moon in the sky at the same 
time. The women's Dome is up on a bit of a ridge and sometimes that's 
possible.



On Saturday, October 11, 2014 8:05 AM, "fleetwood_macncheese@... 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:



The most obvious feature here, is the big sky. Not only the blazing 
Milky Way, overhead at night, but also being able to see a vast sky 
stretching over the valley, from mountain range, to mountain range, 
during the day - So... much...space!...Akasha. I particularly enjoy 
seeing the rising sun and the moon, together in the same sky.
Back on earth, I bought an R/C flying sphere - white round plastic 
frame, with props for vertical and horizontal travel - For those of 
you who have used the R/C helos, this one is far more resistant to 
crash landings - haven't lost a blade yet. Twenty bucks, at Costco.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Fall Of Baghdad

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 10/11/2014 10:24 PM, lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] wrote:


Christian Crusaders did the same thing, and don't fool yourself, if 
Americans ever "conquered" a country, we'd do the same thing too.



>
/The U.S. "conquered" Iraq and liberated it from a despotic tyrant, but 
the U.S. didn't get any oil out of Iraq. Now, the current administration 
has lost the war and we'll have to send troops back in to beat back and 
destroy the ISIS. This is going to cost the U.S. taxpayer billions of 
dollars with no end in sight.


The U.S. should have stayed in Iraq with at least 100,000 troops and 
continued liberating the whole Middle East and stabilize it so the 
Europeans would have some heating oil this winter. There is no way that 
NATO is going to be able to protect Europe from Putin and ISIS - both at 
the same time. No way./


/When Baghdad falls and the Americans there are kidnapped and murdered, 
there is going to be hell to pay in the next U.S. elections.//A whole 
decade lost to incompetence. There are going to be a lot of bums kicked 
out of congress and the White House. That's what I think./

>


Ask any American Indian tribe if you need examples.

>
/Non sequitur. American "Indians" for thousands of years have been 
conquering countries, so what? The Native Americans all came over to 
North and South America in order to take whatever they wanted, wherever 
they wanted to take it. There are no pacifist indigenous populations in 
the New World./

>


L


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

They're supplied the same way Mohammed supplied his *army*. They just 
take whatever they want, wherever they go. Whether it's money from 
banks, food from stockpiles, or weapons, ammunition and 
transportation from Iraqi army bases. This is your Islamic *work 
ethic*. Real work is for mensches.



On Saturday, October 11, 2014 2:18 PM, "'Richard J. Williams' 
punditster@... [FairfieldLife]"  wrote:



On 10/11/2014 2:42 PM, jr_esq@...  [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:



Something is wrong with the US generals' assessment of ISIS.

>
/There is no good news coming out of the Middle East - the U.S.
supports the Saudis who are Shite Muslims; and at the same time
Iranians support the Shiite in Baghdad. But, the ISIS are Sunnis
who hate everyone, Muslim and infidel alike. Then, there's Assad
to deal with. The only bright spot over there is Israel, the only
democracy in the whole Middle East. Go figure.
>
/

How is it possible for the militants to continue fighting in Iraq
and Syria with supposedly only 30,000 fighters?

It appears that the militant rebels in or near Baghdad are
self-sufficient to fight on their own without help from their
Syrian headquarters.  So, that means they're getting food,
supplies and ammunition within Baghdad itself.

I wouldn't be surprised if a secret faction within the ISF is
providing the weapons and ammunition to fight the loyal troopers
of Iraq.

>

/"Without large numbers of American troops on the ground in Iraq,
we lack the ability to choose targets, to rebuild the capacity of
the Iraqi Army quickly and successfully, to constrain the Shiite
government from pursuing a sectarian agenda. Without large numbers
of troops in Syria, we are unable to distinguish between friend
and foe, to train and direct non-Qaeda opposition forces, to
address the humanitarian crisis, and to prepare for—and hasten—a
world without Bashar Assad."/

'Only American ground troops can defeat the Islamic State'
The Washington Free Beacon:
http://freebeacon.com/columns/accept-no-substitutes/
>




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
, mailto:punditster@... wrote :

/Our side is suffering serious defeats on the battlefield in
Anbar province and Baghdad is ripe for infiltration. Then, it's a
guerrilla war in the streets with up close and personal close
range fighting.//
//
//According to President Obama, it's a war against the Islamic
State, but who are they? The goal is to roll back the IS in Iraq
and contain it in Syria. Soon, Turkey will be pulled into the
fight - the ISIS are at the gates today, tomorrow Istanbul and
onwards to Rome./

"With the outlying suburb of Abu Ghraib teetering on completely
falling to ISIS, if the area comes under complete control of the
Islamists, the Americans will be within easy range of ISIS
artillery."

/'ISIS reaches Baghdad suburbs, US troops block the way to BGW
Int'l Airport'/

http://www.examiner.com/article/isis-reaches-baghdad-suburbs-us-troops-block-the-way-to-bgw-int-l-airport

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: We aren't rattlesnake virgins, in paradise, anymore

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

If you live in a rural setting, you might consider some critters that don't 
like snakes. In Texas, many people used to keep guinea fowl. They hate snakes 
and will kill them on site. Pea fowl will do the same. It's just a matter of 
whether you would rather put up with their *mess* or the snakes. Of course the 
fowl may attract other predators like bobcats, tomcats and the occasional 
williecat. 


On Sunday, October 12, 2014 6:34 AM, "fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:
  


  
Yeah, we have lizards too, and this is the first snake I have seen - they don't 
make themselves visible very often, and thank goodness our house is on a slab - 
no crawlspace.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


That cool Jim.

Just glad she happened to see him.

Yes, employ whatever communication skills you might have to set the boundaries, 
and hope it works.

We get snakes in our backyard periodically.  Non venemous.  I will sometimes 
pick them up by their tail end and move them.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Has a biblical ring to it, huh?... My wife found the snake (western 
diamondback?) on the patio, next to the house, this evening. I hosed him off, 
into nearby shrubs. I'd rather make it really uncomfortable, so he doesn't come 
back, vs. killing him, and getting that whole cycle going... it is a lost cause 
to have an antagonistic relationship with the animals here, but I have no 
problem establishing my boundaries. You can see two or three rattles in the 
picture, he's about a foot long -



  
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FWIW: Gaudapada and Buddha

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 10/11/2014 4:35 PM, wgm4u wrote:
I like what MMY says on the subject, 

>
/Maybe  I missed it, but where and when did MMY say anything about 
Gaudapada and the Buddha?/

>
reality is both relative (dynamic) and absolute (silent), the unity of 
the two is the eternal reality of living being. Only in the pralaya 
does the Absolute exist ALONE.

>
/All schools of Indian philosophy acknowledge the existence of the 
manifest world but each interprets differently the relationship between 
the ultimate reality and the manifest world of matter. //


//So, let's review what we know:

//Kashmir Saivism teaches that consciousness alternates between two 
phases, rest and action. The phase of transcendental rest is called 
'pralaya' in Sanskrit, which has no first beginning, therefore no primal 
cause. ///Kashmir Saivism contends that there is only one reality, but 
it has two aspects; therefore the manifestation is real. This is based 
on the argument that the effect cannot be different from its cause. The 
world of matter is only another form of consciousness. ///

//
//Samkhya doctrine contends that there are two independent realities, 
and that the manifest world is the appearance of unconscious matter as 
separate and independent. The Vedanta doctrine contends that there is 
only one ultimate reality which never changes; therefore the manifest 
world is an 'appearance' only. //

//
/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Parody or Truth 4

[Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Ann, to me you sound like a bit of an online bully, or at the very least 
insensitive. With the above LOL comment about bravery and with an earlier 
comment: I hope I don't insult anyone and if I do maybe they need to find a 
sense of humour.




On Sunday, October 12, 2014 8:29 AM, "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 wrote:
 


  




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Ann, you don't miss anything.

Kudos to a well nuanced, humorous account!!

Glad you enjoyed it. Apparently you are a lot braver than some here who are 
won't read theirs. LOL.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Steve rubs his eyes and focuses on the wall opposite his bed. There is a dark 
square where the picture of Barry used to hang. Now, in its absence, the paint 
beneath where the picture hung is still fresh - no longer matches the rest of 
the wall. That dark square reminds him of the cool dude that used to be. But 
there have recently been too many repetitive posts, too many screeds that sound 
stifled and stilted and predictable. So, the picture had to go. Steve has 
folded it away and laid it in the old trunk where things he no longer looks at 
are stored. It is the ‘dead picture’ trunk, the place he no longer accesses, 
the ‘dead letter box’ where old photos will eventually turn to dust. He doesn’t 
quite have the heart to actually throw the image out, Steve isn’t unfeeling 
like that, but for the foreseeable future he can not imagine himself 
reinstating Barry’s face to his wall. (His wife will soon find another image to 
cover the unattractive 
 empty spot. It will be a poster-sized blow up of the picture Steve has of 
himself and the Three Stooges taken when he was a young lad. This will be his 
birthday gift and he will be surprised and moved by her gesture of love.)

Arising from the bed, Steve thinks of his business, reflects on his children’s 
future and briefly considers catching a quick 20 minute meditation for old 
time’s sake. He decides against it and opts for 30 pushups instead; my, how 
times have changed. Feeling invigorated Steve ambles over to the computer, able 
to squeeze in 20 minutes before he has to leave for work. Checking on the 
nocturnal rustlings of the folks at FFL he brings his fist down on the table 
just hard enough to make a sound but loud enough to make an impression to suit 
what he is feeling. MJ has met all expectations. Two articles: one on the gum 
recession and necessary crown of three current meditators and one article on 
the dirty oven fiasco of the renting meditator back in the 70’s. Christ! Mary 
mother of God! He just has to reply and reply he does, only to be answered by 
MJ so quickly that Steve thinks he is sitting by his computer waiting to 
pounce. There is a counter response
 and the two billy goats butt heads for a good 15 minutes resulting in a 
stalemate. Both go away with a headache but Steve forgets about it all as he 
climbs into his car on his way to work. For the next 10 hours he will not have 
a moment to think about FFL but there will be plenty of late-night responses 
Steve will feel compelled to make - compelled because it is the source of the 
biggest laughs he’ll have all day.

Re: [FairfieldLife] 9/11 Points and Counterpoints

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 10/11/2014 9:44 PM, seerd...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
The planes flying into the WTC were 767 is a much larger and wider 
plane than the 707. 

>
/According to both Barry1, Barry2 and the //Duveyoung, there were no 
Jews inside the WTC at the time of the attack. //

//
//Therefore, the attack was an "inside job", in a conspiracy between the 
U.S. Government and the Israeli Mossad in order to provide an excuse for 
George W. Bush to invade Iraq (instead of Saudi Arabia where the 
hijackers came from), because Saddam Hussein had once tried to kill his 
father George H.W. Bush./ /So, the CIA paid 19 hijackers to fly panes 
into the WTC and the FBI rigged the WTC with demolitions to make sure it 
came down, and for good measure the NYPD brought down Building 7 to make 
it look real bad./


/Go figure./

/Duveyoung Wed, 08 Oct 2014 10:02:10 -0700 //
//http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg332298.html//
//
//Debunking the 9/11 Myths: Special Report://
//http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/engineering/architecture/911-myths/

Re: [FairfieldLife] The big sky

[fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Thank you, and thank you - the parody was hilarious - always interesting to 
look in someone else's mirror of my online me. Yeah, I made a remark about MJ's 
by-now-familiar-but-not-by-him qualification. I am feeling left out from that 
experience, where you state explicitly, before any response, that you have not 
read the post, that you are responding to.  

 I would like to try that! Think of the possibilities, the blind agendas 
forwarded, the left-hand turns, down a dirt road! The next time someone makes a 
comment about *anything*, I'll respond like this: 
 

 Even though I haven't read [subject post], 
 it is clearly [a. an affirmation, b. a condemnation, c. an insane lie, d. an 
excellent joke], 
 about the principles of [a. cooking, b.TM, c. Enlightenment, d. shoes, e. 
horse shoes]. 
 Therefore, you [a. suck, b. make a good point, c. aren't making any sense], 
 and so I [a. am, b. am not] 
 going to [a. dignify that with a response, b. remember that, and cherish it, 
c. tell you to fuck off]. 
 

 But you aren't that kind of guy, from what I can see. You aren't not going to 
read stuff because you are afraid it will offend you or because you know most 
of the time you don't agree with the poster. It seems to me that you and I are 
a little alike in that way, that we welcome experience and if it doesn't pan 
out to be either interesting enough in the long run or requires too much energy 
to persist in continuing to engage with it then you move along. But unless it's 
something that is gonna literally burn the retinas out of your skull I usually 
glance at most of what goes on here. I'm even still reading a lot of what bawee 
posts even though I have failed to find it illuminating beyond what it says 
about him. (I liked your example above, BTW, of how to approach a post. It was 
written with the Fleetwood characteristic clever, albeit sometimes slightly 
acidic, insight.)
 

 Yes, I find so many solutions, through continually expanding my horizons, not 
just physically, but by being open to "the bigger picture". I find beliefs can 
serve as temporary milestones, though I do my best to form my world view, as an 
ongoing consequence of experience. It is not so important what anyone thinks, 
in the moment, including me.
 The recent piece by seerdope, about traditional knowledge, as contrasted with 
the hammer of science, was an excellent description, of how life progresses, 
and how much there is in the world, for our deepest desires, for ourselves, and 
others, to be realized.
 Good Morning!
 


 

 




















 

Re: [FairfieldLife] 9/11 Points and Counterpoints

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 10/11/2014 7:39 PM, seerd...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Duveyoung posted a video of Ken O’keefe, and I followed up watching 
another O’keefe video on 9/11. Bhairitu posted a number of  points on 
9/11 assumptions. 

>
/You failed to address the important issue: was the WTC attack an 
"inside job" in a conspiracy with the U.S. Government and the Israeli 
Mossad? According to Duveyoung, if you don't believe this you are 
"FUCKED UP IN THE HEAD."/


"If you don't agree with every single word of this guy's rant, YOU'RE 
FUCKED UP IN THE HEAD."


Duveyoung Wed, 08 Oct 2014 10:02:10 -0700
http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg332298.html

"O'Keefe denied the plausibility that the September 11 attacks were 
committed by Osama bin Laden and the 19 hijackers. He claimed it was an 
inside job and that the US government and intelligence agencies, 
including Mossad were responsible."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_O%27Keefe

[FairfieldLife] Re: We aren't rattlesnake virgins, in paradise, anymore

[fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Yeah, we have lizards too, and this is the first snake I have seen - they don't 
make themselves visible very often, and thank goodness our house is on a slab - 
no crawlspace. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 That cool Jim. 

 Just glad she happened to see him.
 

 Yes, employ whatever communication skills you might have to set the 
boundaries, and hope it works.
 

 We get snakes in our backyard periodically.  Non venemous.  I will sometimes 
pick them up by their tail end and move them.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Has a biblical ring to it, huh?... My wife found the snake (western 
diamondback?) on the patio, next to the house, this evening. I hosed him off, 
into nearby shrubs. I'd rather make it really uncomfortable, so he doesn't come 
back, vs. killing him, and getting that whole cycle going... it is a lost cause 
to have an antagonistic relationship with the animals here, but I have no 
problem establishing my boundaries. You can see two or three rattles in the 
picture, he's about a foot long -
 

 

 

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Parody or Truth 4

[fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Very cool - I like a lot of the entertainment, and style, from that era (1940's 
to early 1960's). Instead of the 500 channels we have today, there were just a 
few, plus the movies, and if you were on TV, you were  automatically an icon. 
The true celebrities (vs. the KK spawn). 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Yes, Moe, Larry and Curly. Also, one with the Lone Ranger, and some early 
wrestlers, before the WWE era.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I forgot about the Stooges picture! I am so jealous! Managed to catch part of 
'The 3 Stooges Meet Hercules',  on TV recently -  have the DVD, too, and '3 
Stooges Go Around The World In A Daze'. Larry was my fave, Moe was too mean, 
and Curly was a little too vacant. Larry was just pure Stooge. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Steve rubs his eyes and focuses on the wall opposite his bed. There is a dark 
square where the picture of Barry used to hang. Now, in its absence, the paint 
beneath where the picture hung is still fresh - no longer matches the rest of 
the wall. That dark square reminds him of the cool dude that used to be. But 
there have recently been too many repetitive posts, too many screeds that sound 
stifled and stilted and predictable. So, the picture had to go. Steve has 
folded it away and laid it in the old trunk where things he no longer looks at 
are stored. It is the ‘dead picture’ trunk, the place he no longer accesses, 
the ‘dead letter box’ where old photos will eventually turn to dust. He doesn’t 
quite have the heart to actually throw the image out, Steve isn’t unfeeling 
like that, but for the foreseeable future he can not imagine himself 
reinstating Barry’s face to his wall. (His wife will soon find another image to 
cover the unattractive  empty spot. It will be a poster-sized blow up of the 
picture Steve has of himself and the Three Stooges taken when he was a young 
lad. This will be his birthday gift and he will be surprised and moved by her 
gesture of love.)
 

 
 Arising from the bed, Steve thinks of his business, reflects on his children’s 
future and briefly considers catching a quick 20 minute meditation for old 
time’s sake. He decides against it and opts for 30 pushups instead; my, how 
times have changed. Feeling invigorated Steve ambles over to the computer, able 
to squeeze in 20 minutes before he has to leave for work. Checking on the 
nocturnal rustlings of the folks at FFL he brings his fist down on the table 
just hard enough to make a sound but loud enough to make an impression to suit 
what he is feeling. MJ has met all expectations. Two articles: one on the gum 
recession and necessary crown of three current meditators and one article on 
the dirty oven fiasco of the renting meditator back in the 70’s. Christ! Mary 
mother of God! He just has to reply and reply he does, only to be answered by 
MJ so quickly that Steve thinks he is sitting by his computer waiting to 
pounce. There is a counter response and the two billy goats butt heads for a 
good 15 minutes resulting in a stalemate. Both go away with a headache but 
Steve forgets about it all as he climbs into his car on his way to work. For 
the next 10 hours he will not have a moment to think about FFL but there will 
be plenty of late-night responses Steve will feel compelled to make - compelled 
because it is the source of the biggest laughs he’ll have all day.
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Parody or Truth 4

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ann, you don't miss anything. 

 Kudos to a well nuanced, humorous account!!
 

 Glad you enjoyed it. Apparently you are a lot braver than some here who are 
won't read theirs. LOL.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Steve rubs his eyes and focuses on the wall opposite his bed. There is a dark 
square where the picture of Barry used to hang. Now, in its absence, the paint 
beneath where the picture hung is still fresh - no longer matches the rest of 
the wall. That dark square reminds him of the cool dude that used to be. But 
there have recently been too many repetitive posts, too many screeds that sound 
stifled and stilted and predictable. So, the picture had to go. Steve has 
folded it away and laid it in the old trunk where things he no longer looks at 
are stored. It is the ‘dead picture’ trunk, the place he no longer accesses, 
the ‘dead letter box’ where old photos will eventually turn to dust. He doesn’t 
quite have the heart to actually throw the image out, Steve isn’t unfeeling 
like that, but for the foreseeable future he can not imagine himself 
reinstating Barry’s face to his wall. (His wife will soon find another image to 
cover the unattractive  empty spot. It will be a poster-sized blow up of the 
picture Steve has of himself and the Three Stooges taken when he was a young 
lad. This will be his birthday gift and he will be surprised and moved by her 
gesture of love.)
 

 
 Arising from the bed, Steve thinks of his business, reflects on his children’s 
future and briefly considers catching a quick 20 minute meditation for old 
time’s sake. He decides against it and opts for 30 pushups instead; my, how 
times have changed. Feeling invigorated Steve ambles over to the computer, able 
to squeeze in 20 minutes before he has to leave for work. Checking on the 
nocturnal rustlings of the folks at FFL he brings his fist down on the table 
just hard enough to make a sound but loud enough to make an impression to suit 
what he is feeling. MJ has met all expectations. Two articles: one on the gum 
recession and necessary crown of three current meditators and one article on 
the dirty oven fiasco of the renting meditator back in the 70’s. Christ! Mary 
mother of God! He just has to reply and reply he does, only to be answered by 
MJ so quickly that Steve thinks he is sitting by his computer waiting to 
pounce. There is a counter response and the two billy goats butt heads for a 
good 15 minutes resulting in a stalemate. Both go away with a headache but 
Steve forgets about it all as he climbs into his car on his way to work. For 
the next 10 hours he will not have a moment to think about FFL but there will 
be plenty of late-night responses Steve will feel compelled to make - compelled 
because it is the source of the biggest laughs he’ll have all day.
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Fall Of Baghdad

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Sounds like you're justifying ISIS's  actions. True, that was typical of 
conquering armies in the past due to the practicality of waging war. However we 
consider our selves a *bit* more civilized today. We don't target innocent 
civilians, force them to convert and then kill them anyway, we don't steel 
supplies, we buy it if we don't bring it and we observe a uniform code of  
military conduct observed by almost all nations.  wrote:
  


  
Christian Crusaders did the same thing, and don't fool yourself, if Americans 
ever "conquered" a country, we'd do the same thing too.

Ask any American Indian tribe if you need examples.

L


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


They're supplied the same way Mohammed supplied his *army*. They just take 
whatever they want, wherever they go. Whether it's money from banks, food from 
stockpiles, or weapons, ammunition and transportation from Iraqi army bases. 
This is your Islamic *work ethic*. Real work is for mensches.


On Saturday, October 11, 2014 2:18 PM, "'Richard J. Williams'
punditster@... [FairfieldLife]"  wrote:
 


 
On 10/11/2014 2:42 PM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:

 
>>Something is wrong with the US generals' assessment of
ISIS.  
>>
>
>There is no good news coming out of the Middle East - the U.S.
supports the Saudis who are Shite Muslims; and at the same time
Iranians support the Shiite in Baghdad. But, the ISIS are Sunnis
who hate everyone, Muslim and infidel alike. Then, there's Assad
to deal with. The only bright spot over there is Israel, the only
democracy in the whole Middle East. Go figure.
>>
>
>How is it possible for the militants to continue fighting
in Iraq and Syria with supposedly only 30,000 fighters?
>>
>>
>>It appears that the militant rebels in or near Baghdad
are self-sufficient to fight on their own without help
from their Syrian headquarters.  So, that means they're
getting food, supplies and ammunition within Baghdad
itself.
>>
>>
>>I wouldn't be surprised if a secret faction within the ISF is providing the 
>>weapons and ammunition to fight the
loyal troopers of Iraq.
>>
>
>
>"Without large numbers of American troops on the ground in Iraq,
we lack the ability to choose targets, to rebuild the capacity of
the Iraqi Army quickly and successfully, to constrain the Shiite
government from pursuing a sectarian agenda. Without large numbers
of troops in Syria, we are unable to distinguish between friend
and foe, to train and direct non-Qaeda opposition forces, to
address the humanitarian crisis, and to prepare for—and hasten—a
world without Bashar Assad."
>
>'Only American ground troops can defeat the Islamic State'
>The Washington Free Beacon:
>http://freebeacon.com/columns/accept-no-substitutes/
>>
>
>
>
>>
>>---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:punditster@... wrote :
>>
>>
>>Our side is suffering serious defeats on the
battlefield in Anbar province and Baghdad is ripe for infiltration. Then,
it's a
guerrilla war in the streets with up close and
personal close
range fighting.
>>
>>According to President Obama, it's a war
against the Islamic
State, but who are they? The goal is to roll back
the IS in Iraq
and contain it in Syria. Soon, Turkey will be pulled
into the
fight - the ISIS are at the gates today, tomorrow
Istanbul and
onwards to Rome.
>>
>>"With the outlying suburb of Abu Ghraib teetering on
completely
falling to ISIS, if the area comes under complete
control of the Islamists, the Americans will be within easy range of
ISIS
artillery."
>>
>>'ISIS reaches Baghdad suburbs, US troops block the
way to BGW Int'l Airport'
>>http://www.examiner.com/article/isis-reaches-baghdad-suburbs-us-troops-block-the-way-to-bgw-int-l-airport
>> 
>

  
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] D Lynch

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Appreciate you sharing the story. It serves to illustrate what total complete 
assholes the Movement is made of and what incredibly stupid mentality is 
encouraged and taught in the Movement. And these are the people who want to 
teach our kids meditation in schools? No thanks.







 From: salyavin808 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 3:05 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] D Lynch
 


  




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


C'mon! They didn't really claim Lynch's smoking is his self referral??


Of course they did! The statement means nothing so it can be co-opted to 
support anything you like.

I had it explained to me by our "raja", he said that what you do is close your 
eyes and look inwards at your "self" and it will tell you if something is 
right. I always that that was called desire or even just agreeing with yourself 
and didn't know why the TMO gave it a special name but it's like that with a 
lot of kooky spiritual stuff, makes them think they have better life skills 
than the rest of us.

The example he used on me was astrology, when I told I thought it was a crock 
he said he wondered about it too until he looked at his "self" and found he 
agreed with himself. (?)

Maybe we should do that with 9/11 conspiracies and see how the "self" guides 
us. LOL.



 From: salyavin808 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] D Lynch



 




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


He'd probably weigh over 300 pounds if
he quit both. 

I think Bevan Morris should get back on the fags then, and Hagelin is looking a 
but chubby these days. I can just see them on the Marshy channel stubbing one 
out in an ashtray and swigging back the dregs of a 'cino before puja. It's 
vedic, they'll cough.

They had to find
a way of excusing Lynchees habits, so they claimed it was self-referral. Like 
that explains anything at all.

 He is probably typical American pitta-kapha and
kapha dominant too much of the time.  Those two substances are
known in ayurveda to reduce kapha.  My late tantra guru probably
would not have have died of congestive heart failure if he had not
quit smoking.  He immediately put on weight when he quit.  I also
think that people who are kapha will be less likely get emphysema
from smoking as that tends to happen more with vata types.

Creative people often fight with having a creative mindset and
being able to act on it.  For instance a lot of jazz musicians
were bright people who easily learned their instruments and music
theory but a bit too high strung to play well without some help
from drugs (or some meditation).
 
On 10/11/2014 11:27 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:

 
>>"I must have a very high tolerance for
caffeine," he says. "I always associated smoking and
drinking coffee with the art life. They go hand in hand.
There's something about drinking coffee and smoking that
makes me happy and facilitates thinking. I just really
love those things." - David Lynch
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] The big sky

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Thank you, and thank you - the parody was hilarious - always interesting to 
look in someone else's mirror of my online me. Yeah, I made a remark about MJ's 
by-now-familiar-but-not-by-him qualification. I am feeling left out from that 
experience, where you state explicitly, before any response, that you have not 
read the post, that you are responding to.  

 I would like to try that! Think of the possibilities, the blind agendas 
forwarded, the left-hand turns, down a dirt road! The next time someone makes a 
comment about *anything*, I'll respond like this: 
 

 Even though I haven't read [subject post], 
 it is clearly [a. an affirmation, b. a condemnation, c. an insane lie, d. an 
excellent joke], 
 about the principles of [a. cooking, b.TM, c. Enlightenment, d. shoes, e. 
horse shoes]. 
 Therefore, you [a. suck, b. make a good point, c. aren't making any sense], 
 and so I [a. am, b. am not] 
 going to [a. dignify that with a response, b. remember that, and cherish it, 
c. tell you to fuck off]. 
 

 But you aren't that kind of guy, from what I can see. You aren't not going to 
read stuff because you are afraid it will offend you or because you know most 
of the time you don't agree with the poster. It seems to me that you and I are 
a little alike in that way, that we welcome experience and if it doesn't pan 
out to be either interesting enough in the long run or requires too much energy 
to persist in continuing to engage with it then you move along. But unless it's 
something that is gonna literally burn the retinas out of your skull I usually 
glance at most of what goes on here. I'm even still reading a lot of what bawee 
posts even though I have failed to find it illuminating beyond what it says 
about him. (I liked your example above, BTW, of how to approach a post. It was 
written with the Fleetwood characteristic clever, albeit sometimes slightly 
acidic, insight.)
 

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] We aren't rattlesnake virgins, in paradise, anymore

[fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Yes, I used to do long distance running, and once, on a very steep, and slow, 
part of a trail, the horseflies were fierce, and I spontaneously contacted the 
king of the horseflies, and asked him to stop his flies from being so 
aggressive. I don't recall if it worked, though I often will deal with pests 
that way, by introducing myself, to the king of the particular animal kingdom, 
letting him know that I mean no harm, and am respectful, but want my space, 
too.  
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I agree, Fleetwood and 2013 was definitely my year for learning how to deal 
successfully with critters, mainly of the entomological variety! The last 
incident involved being inundated with gigantic flies. And I couldn't figure 
out how they were getting into the house! Finally I did a little ho'oponopono. 
Next day they were gone! And I never found any dead bodies! About a week later 
I read an article that their very short mating season had just occurred. 
Anyway...the critters are here to stay. Good to make peace and have clear 
boundaries, as you say. 

 


 On Saturday, October 11, 2014 9:58 PM, "fleetwood_macncheese@... 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:
 
 

   [Attachment(s) https://us-mg5.mail.yahoo.com/neo/launch#TopText from 
fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] included below] Has a biblical ring to 
it, huh?... My wife found the snake (western diamondback?) on the patio, next 
to the house, this evening. I hosed him off, into nearby shrubs. I'd rather 
make it really uncomfortable, so he doesn't come back, vs. killing him, and 
getting that whole cycle going... it is a lost cause to have an antagonistic 
relationship with the animals here, but I have no problem establishing my 
boundaries. You can see two or three rattles in the picture, he's about a foot 
long -
 

 

 

 


 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] D Lynch

[steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

So, in other words, he didn't use it for David Lynch's smoking.  You just made 
that up. 

 And who cares if he smokes anyway.
 

 It is akin, in my mind, to what one chooses to eat.  Has little to do with 
one's internal state.
 

 I don't know about heavy alcohol use, or drug use.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 C'mon! They didn't really claim Lynch's smoking is his self referral??

 

 Of course they did! The statement means nothing so it can be co-opted to 
support anything you like.
 

 I had it explained to me by our "raja", he said that what you do is close your 
eyes and look inwards at your "self" and it will tell you if something is 
right. I always that that was called desire or even just agreeing with yourself 
and didn't know why the TMO gave it a special name but it's like that with a 
lot of kooky spiritual stuff, makes them think they have better life skills 
than the rest of us.
 

 The example he used on me was astrology, when I told I thought it was a crock 
he said he wondered about it too until he looked at his "self" and found he 
agreed with himself. (?)
 

 Maybe we should do that with 9/11 conspiracies and see how the "self" guides 
us. LOL.
 

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 5:02 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] D Lynch
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 He'd probably weigh over 300 pounds if he quit both. 
 

 I think Bevan Morris should get back on the fags then, and Hagelin is looking 
a but chubby these days. I can just see them on the Marshy channel stubbing one 
out in an ashtray and swigging back the dregs of a 'cino before puja. It's 
vedic, they'll cough.
 

 They had to find a way of excusing Lynchees habits, so they claimed it was 
self-referral. Like that explains anything at all.
 

  He is probably typical American pitta-kapha and kapha dominant too much of 
the time.  Those two substances are known in ayurveda to reduce kapha.  My late 
tantra guru probably would not have have died of congestive heart failure if he 
had not quit smoking.  He immediately put on weight when he quit.  I also think 
that people who are kapha will be less likely get emphysema from smoking as 
that tends to happen more with vata types.
 
 Creative people often fight with having a creative mindset and being able to 
act on it.  For instance a lot of jazz musicians were bright people who easily 
learned their instruments and music theory but a bit too high strung to play 
well without some help from drugs (or some meditation).
  
 On 10/11/2014 11:27 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   "I must have a very high tolerance for caffeine," he says. "I always 
associated smoking and drinking coffee with the art life. They go hand in hand. 
There's something about drinking coffee and smoking that makes me happy and 
facilitates thinking. I just really love those things." - David Lynch

 



 
 


 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Traditional Practices and Evolutionary Advantage

[steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Yea, maybe it's like how people get obsessed with things. 

 Look, everyone here is a fan of science.  We get it.
 

 But, we don't then discard our intuition or personal experience with 
something, just because we don't have a scientific study to verify it.
 

 Okay, maybe I am exaggerating a tad, but we really see here, some, who throw 
out a lot of useful data compiled by our own experience just because it doesn't 
conform to what they consider proper scientific verification.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Bhairitu said: "Science knows shit about tantra and mantra shastra.  You're 
looking the wrong way. "
 

 My post was not looking to science to validate tantra or mantra shastra or any 
traditional knowledge. 
 

 Just the opposite. My point was a statement of disagreement with the claim of 
rationalists that traditional knowledge consists of only primitive 
superstitions with no foundation (I include a vast array of practices, rituals, 
ceremonies, points of view, customs, processes, lifestyles, diets, medicine, 
exercise, meditation, yoga, chanting, sound, cosmologies,observed correlations 
(beyond the spurious), assumptions about causal factors, etc, across many 
cultures in the term "traditional knowledge).
 

 Traditional knowledge has generally undergone a series of vast duration 
longitudinal studies with literally life and death consequences (for 
individuals and entire cultures). Nothing in the social or medical sciences 
have or are able to do anything remotely similar. It is a different type, yet 
in my view quite valid form of research.  That which actually works survives as 
do the cultures that maintain and practice it. 
 

 Thus, it is my view that traditional knowledge in many forms already have some 
proven value. Based on ones needs, inclinations, and resources many forms of 
traditional knowledge are quite worthy of personal investigation and 
experimentation -- that is, does it work for me, does it bring positive value 
to my life (and others.  
 

 Science is like a hammer. Very effective, but it can only hit nails -- and it 
looks for nails to hit -- a small subset of worthy areas of investigation. That 
is, its tools and methods are not yet capable of meaningfully studying many 
aspects of traditional knowledge -- though certainly some useful progress has 
been made. 
 

 For example, the 1000's of studies on traditional herbs.  While only a subset 
are double blind, placebo based studies of significant sample size, a lot of 
fascinating understanding has been uncovered. And such studies at imply that 
there is "some there, there".to traditional herbs and more broadly -- though 
more indirectly make other forms of traditional knowledge more plausible -- at 
least worthy of investigation. 
 

 The advances in brain and cognitive science  and related fields over the past 
10 years has been startling. And the progress in methodologies, analysis, 
imaging and other technologies, appears to be accelerating.  Over the next 
10-20 years, many forms of traditional knowledge may be able to be better 
investigated by science -- enhancing both science and the traditions and 
cultures that maintain and teach traditional knowledge.   
 

 But no need to wait for scads of peer reviewed double blind placebo studies to 
begin personal experimentation and validation of many forms of traditional 
knowledge.
 

 Really nice post.
 

  

Re: [FairfieldLife] 9/11 Points and Counterpoints

[steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Yes, recommend Lunchbox as well. "Auntie"


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Bhairitu asked "What dog do you have in this anyway?  A check from Langley?"
 

 I applied, stating my sole purpose was to meet  Carrie Mathison. Oddly, I 
never heard 
 back. 
 

 However, now with your implied endorsement, I am sure that they will welcome 
me with open arms. (of one variety or another). 
 

 By the way, Carrie's nemesis this season as station chief in Pakistan is 
Nimrat Kaur who starred in  The Lunchbox (set in India).  . 
 

 I recommend the film. I found it gracefully captured subtle and nuanced, ebbs 
and flows of life. Its humor was kept low key and charming.  Well acted and 
directed. I thought she was exceptional in her understated conveyance of quiet 
emotional depth.
 

 

 

 

 

 
  

Re: [FairfieldLife] The big sky

[fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

See, pretty easy, huh? We could have many such interactions on this forum. :-)
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 dear Fleetwood, even though I have sort of read your post containing list of 
possible responses
 it is clearly a true lie  that made me LOL and COL

 about the principles of dealing with rattlesnakes of all sorts, not to mention 
principals
 therefore you suck at being a cult member
 and so I am That, thou are that, etc.
 but I'm gonna ignore your post anyway...unless I forget to!

 


 On Saturday, October 11, 2014 10:30 PM, "fleetwood_macncheese@... 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:
 
 

   Thank you, and thank you - the parody was hilarious - always interesting to 
look in someone else's mirror of my online me. Yeah, I made a remark about MJ's 
by-now-familiar-but-not-by-him qualification. I am feeling left out from that 
experience, where you state explicitly, before any response, that you have not 
read the post, that you are responding to. 
 

 I would like to try that! Think of the possibilities, the blind agendas 
forwarded, the left-hand turns, down a dirt road! The next time someone makes a 
comment about *anything*, I'll respond like this: 
 

 Even though I haven't read [subject post], 
 it is clearly [a. an affirmation, b. a condemnation, c. an insane lie, d. an 
excellent joke], 
 about the principles of [a. cooking, b.TM, c. Enlightenment, d. shoes, e. 
horse shoes]. 
 Therefore, you [a. suck, b. make a good point, c. aren't making any sense], 
 and so I [a. am, b. am not] 
 going to [a. dignify that with a response, b. remember that, and cherish it, 
c. tell you to fuck off]. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Wow! Talk about being at the right place, at the right time. I get mystery and 
life from water, and satisfaction and wonder from earth, and blessed dreams and 
inspiration, from the air, wind, clouds, sun, and stars.
 

 You are indeed a fortunate and, if I might use the term, blessed man, Mac. And 
thanks for the wonder woman parody of me, I had a good chuckle. I hope you 
weren't offended by mine, I meant it all in the friendliest of ways but you 
never know how these things are gonna fly. Apparently MJ is too afraid to read 
the one I wrote about him - maybe he thinks he might recognize himself from 
what I wrote. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 So Fresh, isn't it? Akasha
 

 

 

 

 

 

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Me too, Fleet, I love seeing the sun and moon in the sky at the same time. The 
women's Dome is up on a bit of a ridge and sometimes that's possible.

 


 On Saturday, October 11, 2014 8:05 AM, "fleetwood_macncheese@... 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:
 
 

   The most obvious feature here, is the big sky. Not only the blazing Milky 
Way, overhead at night, but also being able to see a vast sky stretching over 
the valley, from mountain range, to mountain range, during the day - So... 
much...space!...Akasha. I particularly enjoy seeing the rising sun and the 
moon, together in the same sky.
 Back on earth, I bought an R/C flying sphere - white round plastic frame, with 
props for vertical and horizontal travel - For those of you who have used the 
R/C helos, this one is far more resistant to crash landings - haven't lost a 
blade yet. Twenty bucks, at Costco.
 


 
























 


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Parody or Truth 4

[steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Yes, Moe, Larry and Curly. Also, one with the Lone Ranger, and some early 
wrestlers, before the WWE era.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I forgot about the Stooges picture! I am so jealous! Managed to catch part of 
'The 3 Stooges Meet Hercules',  on TV recently -  have the DVD, too, and '3 
Stooges Go Around The World In A Daze'. Larry was my fave, Moe was too mean, 
and Curly was a little too vacant. Larry was just pure Stooge. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Steve rubs his eyes and focuses on the wall opposite his bed. There is a dark 
square where the picture of Barry used to hang. Now, in its absence, the paint 
beneath where the picture hung is still fresh - no longer matches the rest of 
the wall. That dark square reminds him of the cool dude that used to be. But 
there have recently been too many repetitive posts, too many screeds that sound 
stifled and stilted and predictable. So, the picture had to go. Steve has 
folded it away and laid it in the old trunk where things he no longer looks at 
are stored. It is the ‘dead picture’ trunk, the place he no longer accesses, 
the ‘dead letter box’ where old photos will eventually turn to dust. He doesn’t 
quite have the heart to actually throw the image out, Steve isn’t unfeeling 
like that, but for the foreseeable future he can not imagine himself 
reinstating Barry’s face to his wall. (His wife will soon find another image to 
cover the unattractive  empty spot. It will be a poster-sized blow up of the 
picture Steve has of himself and the Three Stooges taken when he was a young 
lad. This will be his birthday gift and he will be surprised and moved by her 
gesture of love.)
 

 
 Arising from the bed, Steve thinks of his business, reflects on his children’s 
future and briefly considers catching a quick 20 minute meditation for old 
time’s sake. He decides against it and opts for 30 pushups instead; my, how 
times have changed. Feeling invigorated Steve ambles over to the computer, able 
to squeeze in 20 minutes before he has to leave for work. Checking on the 
nocturnal rustlings of the folks at FFL he brings his fist down on the table 
just hard enough to make a sound but loud enough to make an impression to suit 
what he is feeling. MJ has met all expectations. Two articles: one on the gum 
recession and necessary crown of three current meditators and one article on 
the dirty oven fiasco of the renting meditator back in the 70’s. Christ! Mary 
mother of God! He just has to reply and reply he does, only to be answered by 
MJ so quickly that Steve thinks he is sitting by his computer waiting to 
pounce. There is a counter response and the two billy goats butt heads for a 
good 15 minutes resulting in a stalemate. Both go away with a headache but 
Steve forgets about it all as he climbs into his car on his way to work. For 
the next 10 hours he will not have a moment to think about FFL but there will 
be plenty of late-night responses Steve will feel compelled to make - compelled 
because it is the source of the biggest laughs he’ll have all day.
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: We aren't rattlesnake virgins, in paradise, anymore

[steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

That cool Jim. 

 Just glad she happened to see him.
 

 Yes, employ whatever communication skills you might have to set the 
boundaries, and hope it works.
 

 We get snakes in our backyard periodically.  Non venemous.  I will sometimes 
pick them up by their tail end and move them.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Has a biblical ring to it, huh?... My wife found the snake (western 
diamondback?) on the patio, next to the house, this evening. I hosed him off, 
into nearby shrubs. I'd rather make it really uncomfortable, so he doesn't come 
back, vs. killing him, and getting that whole cycle going... it is a lost cause 
to have an antagonistic relationship with the animals here, but I have no 
problem establishing my boundaries. You can see two or three rattles in the 
picture, he's about a foot long -
 

 

 

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Parody or Truth 4

[steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Ann, you don't miss anything. 

 Kudos to a well nuanced, humorous account!!
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Steve rubs his eyes and focuses on the wall opposite his bed. There is a dark 
square where the picture of Barry used to hang. Now, in its absence, the paint 
beneath where the picture hung is still fresh - no longer matches the rest of 
the wall. That dark square reminds him of the cool dude that used to be. But 
there have recently been too many repetitive posts, too many screeds that sound 
stifled and stilted and predictable. So, the picture had to go. Steve has 
folded it away and laid it in the old trunk where things he no longer looks at 
are stored. It is the ‘dead picture’ trunk, the place he no longer accesses, 
the ‘dead letter box’ where old photos will eventually turn to dust. He doesn’t 
quite have the heart to actually throw the image out, Steve isn’t unfeeling 
like that, but for the foreseeable future he can not imagine himself 
reinstating Barry’s face to his wall. (His wife will soon find another image to 
cover the unattractive  empty spot. It will be a poster-sized blow up of the 
picture Steve has of himself and the Three Stooges taken when he was a young 
lad. This will be his birthday gift and he will be surprised and moved by her 
gesture of love.)
 

 
 Arising from the bed, Steve thinks of his business, reflects on his children’s 
future and briefly considers catching a quick 20 minute meditation for old 
time’s sake. He decides against it and opts for 30 pushups instead; my, how 
times have changed. Feeling invigorated Steve ambles over to the computer, able 
to squeeze in 20 minutes before he has to leave for work. Checking on the 
nocturnal rustlings of the folks at FFL he brings his fist down on the table 
just hard enough to make a sound but loud enough to make an impression to suit 
what he is feeling. MJ has met all expectations. Two articles: one on the gum 
recession and necessary crown of three current meditators and one article on 
the dirty oven fiasco of the renting meditator back in the 70’s. Christ! Mary 
mother of God! He just has to reply and reply he does, only to be answered by 
MJ so quickly that Steve thinks he is sitting by his computer waiting to 
pounce. There is a counter response and the two billy goats butt heads for a 
good 15 minutes resulting in a stalemate. Both go away with a headache but 
Steve forgets about it all as he climbs into his car on his way to work. For 
the next 10 hours he will not have a moment to think about FFL but there will 
be plenty of late-night responses Steve will feel compelled to make - compelled 
because it is the source of the biggest laughs he’ll have all day.
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Traditional Practices and Evolutionary Advantage

[Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

seerdope, it's a pleasure, and probably even beneficial to the brain, to read 
writing so...wholesome in both content and tone. I'd add that the efficacy of 
Chinese approach to health might be indicated by the rise of China as a 
superpower in the world. I'd bet money that they have an herbal ebola remedy! 
And I think they just might save the world from jihadists too.



On Saturday, October 11, 2014 8:58 PM, "seerd...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 wrote:
 


  
Bhairitu said: "Science knows shit about tantra and mantra shastra.  You're 
looking the wrong way. "


My post was not looking to science to validate tantra or mantra shastra or any 
traditional knowledge. 

Just the opposite. My point was a statement of disagreement with the claim of 
rationalists that traditional knowledge consists of only primitive 
superstitions with no foundation (I include a vast array of practices, rituals, 
ceremonies, points of view, customs, processes, lifestyles, diets, medicine, 
exercise, meditation, yoga, chanting, sound, cosmologies,observed correlations 
(beyond the spurious), assumptions about causal factors, etc, across many 
cultures in the term "traditional knowledge).

Traditional knowledge has generally undergone a series of vast duration 
longitudinal studies with literally life and death consequences (for 
individuals and entire cultures). Nothing in the social or medical sciences 
have or are able to do anything remotely similar. It is a different type, yet 
in my view quite valid form of research.  That which actually works survives as 
do the cultures that maintain and practice it. 

Thus, it is my view that traditional knowledge in many forms already have some 
proven value. Based on ones needs, inclinations, and resources many forms of 
traditional knowledge are quite worthy of personal investigation and 
experimentation -- that is, does it work for me, does it bring positive value 
to my life (and others.  

Science is like a hammer. Very effective, but it can only hit nails -- and it 
looks for nails to hit -- a small subset of worthy areas of investigation. That 
is, its tools and methods are not yet capable of meaningfully studying many 
aspects of traditional knowledge -- though certainly some useful progress has 
been made. 

For example, the 1000's of studies on traditional herbs.  While only a subset 
are double blind, placebo based studies of significant sample size, a lot of 
fascinating understanding has been uncovered. And such studies at imply that 
there is "some there, there".to traditional herbs and more broadly -- though 
more indirectly make other forms of traditional knowledge more plausible -- at 
least worthy of investigation. 

The advances in brain and cognitive science  and related fields over the past 
10 years has been startling. And the progress in methodologies, analysis, 
imaging and other technologies, appears to be accelerating.  Over the next 
10-20 years, many forms of traditional knowledge may be able to be better 
investigated by science -- enhancing both science and the traditions and 
cultures that maintain and teach traditional knowledge.   

But no need to wait for scads of peer reviewed double blind placebo studies to 
begin personal experimentation and validation of many forms of traditional 
knowledge.

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Des Moines Register's Kyle Munson visits MUM's David Lynch MA in Film

[Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Thanks for posting this balanced article, Dick.



On Sunday, October 12, 2014 6:27 AM, "Dick Mays dickm...@lisco.com 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:
 


  




Begin forwarded message:

From: Ken Chawkin 
>
>Subject: Des Moines Register's Kyle Munson visits MUM's David Lynch MA in Film
>
>Date: October 11, 2014 9:51:32 PM CDT
>
>To: Friends News Group 1 
>
>
>Good News for MUM: The Des Moines Register's Kyle Munson profiled the David 
>Lynch MA in Film at Maharishi University of Management
>
>
>On Thursday I hosted Des Moines Register journalist Kyle Munson and 
>photographer Mary Willie. Kyle had contacted me during the week because of 
>David Lynch’s announcement to produce 9 new episodes of Twin Peaks on 
>Showtime. He finally wanted to come down and see our David Lynch MA in Film 
>program http://filmschool.mum.edu. He said to look for his report this weekend.
>
>
>I just checked and found Kyle’s video report and Mary’s photos about MUM’s 
>DLMA online: Kyle Munson's Iowa. I already put some of the photos up on my 
>Pinterest account, which go on Twitter. Also posted the link to the photos and 
>the video on Google+ and Twitter. If an article comes out in tomorrow’s Sunday 
>Register I may also post it on my blog and send it around. 
>
>
>Here are those fabulous reports: 
>
>Kyle Munson’s Iowa: David Lynch starts film school in Iowa: The David Lynch MA 
>in Film at the Maharishi University of Management in Fairfield and Vedic City 
>began a year ago. The second year of the "Twin Peaks" filmmaker-focused 
>curriculum is underway. Kyle Munson/The Register 
>16 photos: David Lynch film school in Vedic City, Iowa: Fairfield Iowa is the 
>home of David Lynch's MA film program which encourages creativity cultivated 
>by consciousness at Maharishi University of Management Thursday, Oct. 9, 2014. 
> Mary Willie/The Register  
>Even though I officially retired, I could not pass up this PR OP! My services 
>are still available upon request. :-)
>
>
>Jai Guru Dev
>
>
>Ken
>
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] We aren't rattlesnake virgins, in paradise, anymore

[Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I agree, Fleetwood and 2013 was definitely my year for learning how to deal 
successfully with critters, mainly of the entomological variety! The last 
incident involved being inundated with gigantic flies. And I couldn't figure 
out how they were getting into the house! Finally I did a little ho'oponopono. 
Next day they were gone! And I never found any dead bodies! About a week later 
I read an article that their very short mating season had just occurred. 
Anyway...the critters are here to stay. Good to make peace and have clear 
boundaries, as you say. 



On Saturday, October 11, 2014 9:58 PM, "fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:
 


  
[Attachment(s) from fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] included 
below]
Has a biblical ring to it, huh?... My wife found the snake (western 
diamondback?) on the patio, next to the house, this evening. I hosed him off, 
into nearby shrubs. I'd rather make it really uncomfortable, so he doesn't come 
back, vs. killing him, and getting that whole cycle going... it is a lost cause 
to have an antagonistic relationship with the animals here, but I have no 
problem establishing my boundaries. You can see two or three rattles in the 
picture, he's about a foot long -

[FairfieldLife] Des Moines Register's Kyle Munson visits MUM's David Lynch MA in Film

[Dick Mays dickm...@lisco.com [FairfieldLife]]

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Ken Chawkin 
> Subject: Des Moines Register's Kyle Munson visits MUM's David Lynch MA in Film
> Date: October 11, 2014 9:51:32 PM CDT
> To: Friends News Group 1 
> 
> Good News for MUM: The Des Moines Register's Kyle Munson profiled the David 
> Lynch MA in Film at Maharishi University of Management
> 
> On Thursday I hosted Des Moines Register journalist Kyle Munson and 
> photographer Mary Willie. Kyle had contacted me during the week because of 
> David Lynch’s announcement to produce 9 new episodes of Twin Peaks on 
> Showtime. He finally wanted to come down and see our David Lynch MA in Film 
> program http://filmschool.mum.edu. He said to look for his report this 
> weekend.
> 
> I just checked and found Kyle’s video report and Mary’s photos about MUM’s 
> DLMA online: Kyle Munson's Iowa. I already put some of the photos up on my 
> Pinterest account, which go on Twitter. Also posted the link to the photos 
> and the video on Google+ and Twitter. If an article comes out in tomorrow’s 
> Sunday Register I may also post it on my blog and send it around. 
> 
> Here are those fabulous reports: 
> 
> Kyle Munson’s Iowa: David Lynch starts film school in Iowa: The David Lynch 
> MA in Film at the Maharishi University of Management in Fairfield and Vedic 
> City began a year ago. The second year of the "Twin Peaks" filmmaker-focused 
> curriculum is underway. Kyle Munson/The Register 
> 16 photos: David Lynch film school in Vedic City, Iowa: Fairfield Iowa is the 
> home of David Lynch's MA film program which encourages creativity cultivated 
> by consciousness at Maharishi University of Management Thursday, Oct. 9, 
> 2014.  Mary Willie/The Register  
> 
> Even though I officially retired, I could not pass up this PR OP! My services 
> are still available upon request. :-)
> 
> Jai Guru Dev
> 
> Ken
> 

Re: [FairfieldLife] The big sky

[Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

dear Fleetwood, even though I have sort of read your post containing list of 
possible responses
it is clearly a true lie  that made me LOL and COL

about the principles of dealing with rattlesnakes of all sorts, not to mention 
principals
therefore you suck at being a cult member
and so I am That, thou are that, etc.
but I'm gonna ignore your post anyway...unless I forget to!



On Saturday, October 11, 2014 10:30 PM, "fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:
 


  
Thank you, and thank you - the parody was hilarious - always interesting to 
look in someone else's mirror of my online me. Yeah, I made a remark about MJ's 
by-now-familiar-but-not-by-him qualification. I am feeling left out from that 
experience, where you state explicitly, before any response, that you have not 
read the post, that you are responding to. 

I would like to try that! Think of the possibilities, the blind agendas 
forwarded, the left-hand turns, down a dirt road! The next time someone makes a 
comment about *anything*, I'll respond like this: 

Even though I haven't read [subject post], 
it is clearly [a. an affirmation, b. a condemnation, c. an insane lie, d. an 
excellent joke], 
about the principles of [a. cooking, b.TM, c. Enlightenment, d. shoes, e. horse 
shoes]. 
Therefore, you [a. suck, b. make a good point, c. aren't making any sense], 
and so I [a. am, b. am not] 
going to [a. dignify that with a response, b. remember that, and cherish it, c. 
tell you to fuck off]. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :






---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Wow! Talk about being at the right place, at the right time. I get mystery and 
life from water, and satisfaction and wonder from earth, and blessed dreams and 
inspiration, from the air, wind, clouds, sun, and stars.

You are indeed a fortunate and, if I might use the term, blessed man, Mac. And 
thanks for the wonder woman parody of me, I had a good chuckle. I hope you 
weren't offended by mine, I meant it all in the friendliest of ways but you 
never know how these things are gonna fly. Apparently MJ is too afraid to read 
the one I wrote about him - maybe he thinks he might recognize himself from 
what I wrote. 



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :






---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


So Fresh, isn't it? Akasha










---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Me too, Fleet, I love seeing the sun and moon in the sky at the same time. The 
women's Dome is up on a bit of a ridge and sometimes that's possible.



On Saturday, October 11, 2014 8:05 AM, "fleetwood_macncheese@... 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:



 
The most obvious feature here, is the big sky. Not only the blazing Milky Way, 
overhead at night, but also being able to see a vast sky stretching over the 
valley, from mountain range, to mountain range, during the day - So... 
much...space!...Akasha. I particularly enjoy seeing the rising sun and the 
moon, together in the same sky.
Back on earth, I bought an R/C flying sphere - white round plastic frame, with 
props for vertical and horizontal travel - For those of you who have used the 
R/C helos, this one is far more resistant to crash landings - haven't lost a 
blade yet. Twenty bucks, at Costco.

[FairfieldLife] eN-kriya with Nithyaananda!

[cardemais...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

eN-Kriya: Seven Steps for Kundalini Awakening by Nithyananda 29-Jan-2011 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsUml6PcTyM 
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsUml6PcTyM 
 
 eN-Kriya: Seven Steps for Kundalini Awakening by Ni... 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsUml6PcTyM 
http://innerawakening.org/about-ia/kundalini-awakening To experience, live and 
Radiate Enlightenment - Inner Awakening In this second part of eN-kri...
 
 
 
 View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsUml6PcTyM 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
  


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: (399652) The Happiest school in San Francisco

[blue_bungalo...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 
All great billionares have said that wealth that came from 
society should go back to society. In that sense the 
economic system should mirror the eco-system.

The point is only capitalism has the capability to actually 
generate wealth. The paradox of communism is that 
disciplined regulated consumpion is neutralized by wasteful 
inefficient production processes.  The paradox of capitalism 
is that efficient production is cancelled out by wasteful 
crass consumerism.

Crass consumerism leads to crass commercialism.

Crass commercialism leads to hyper-exploitation of 
resources, hyper-advertisments.


---  wrote :

 Of course, MMY never advocated "renouncing wealth." 

 In fact, he carefully marketed TM as a technique for householders -people for 
whom wealth was important because they were interested in physical comfort, 
raising kids in a comfortable and safe environment, etc.
 

 According to theory, the excesses of amassing wealth for its own sake would 
tend to fade with TM practice, being a symptom of a stressed out nervous system 
(even the amassing of wealth for its own sake is arguably a stressful thing, 
making wealth-obession a stress-related illness that TM should help fix 
directly).
 

 L
 

---  wrote :

 
 

http://assets.fundoofun.com/wallpapers/Cartoons/800x600/guru_small.jpg 
http://assets.fundoofun.com/wallpapers/Cartoons/800x600/guru_small.jpg  


 







  


 

  

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Questions 9-11

[blue_bungalo...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---  wrote :

 Yeah, of course you can find MANY who would be part of arranging a false flag 
for 9-11.

What a bunch of blinkered fools we are.  Let's open our scrunched-up eyes a 
crack and admit one thing:  the authorities of the world will do cruelty in any 
form upon anyone no matter the legal framework.

Your local cop IS A MOTHERFUCKING KILLER wishing for his moment to totally ruin 
someone's life.

And if he isn't, then he's an enabler of a fellow cop who is a sociopathand 
that is just AS BAD.  

Case in point:  I know of an 2007 incident in sleepy little-town FAIRFIELD in 
which a cop TORTURED A ROO for over 12 hours in the presence of the other 
officers.  Not a headline.  (Don't ask for details -- can't out a Roo who 
doesn't want more of the same if he's seen bitching about it in public.  No 
charges, let the guy go the next day.)

But see?  This is the heart of darkness within ALL OF US in Kali Yuga.  Even 
our heroes will be found to be  tilted in this age.  

Even the good guys...consider how the TMO did all it could to subvert the 
legal requirements during the murder at MUM.   Those were "saints," right?  
Even inside them was the "I get to do whatever shit I want to" dynamic.  
Consider Ed Beckeley, Dr. Bloomfield, the commodities groups, the TMO money 
laundering and smuggling, etc.  

Young pundits and anybody from TMO, returning to india, each 
person would be given particular quantity (legal) of gold. 
As soon as the plane lands in india, TMO henchmen would be 
waiting there to collect the gold, load the pundits on to 
the waiting van, and off they go.

So much gold was brought in, that they decided to make 
jewellery and sell the gold. The TMO's finances are so murky 
the you would never have the clear idea what happened to all 
the money.



I have been to 17 countries and saw the same shit everywhere.  Give someone a 
gun and they're looking for "game" cuz they're on safari, donchaknow.  

To sum:  how many good Americans would be willing to put a tactical nuke inside 
a 9-11 tower?  Almost any cop, any soldier.   Deal with this fact.  It's the 
truth.  Krishna took sattva with Him 5,000 years ago. There's no Arjuna out 
there wearing a badge of honor and integrity.  


 

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Questions 9-11

[blue_bungalo...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

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 Image if your local police department reported a murder as "someone shot the 
person.  Case closed"  That's almost what the 9-11 official story is like.
 
 You would have been well advised not to use "RationalWiki" which skeptics 
don't even like.  Those of us who think there is something more to a case than 
reported don't call ourselves "conspiracy theorists."  That term has come about 
and used by PSYOPS to discredit us since the JFK assassination which I don't 
think Oswald had anything to do with because he had a cheap gun and was seen in 
the lunch room at the book depository when the assassination took place.  He 
was a convenience patsy due to his activities.  If Ruby had not shot him it 
might have come out that he got framed.
 

 Jeez, everyone knows Elvis shot JFK. It's hardly news.
 
 Anyone on the right track to solving these crimes who has any visibility such 
as a news reporter often gets offed or suicided.  Some of the "nutty stuff" you 
will find in "conspiracy theorist" are PSYOPS trying to "poison the well" lest 
the truth be known.  Just think if we could prove beyond a doubt that 9-11 was 
indeed an inside job and who the perps were how confidence in our government 
would fall, not that it isn't anyway.  And we have long had little confidence 
in our corporations and banks which these days run like gang operations.
 

 After reading the articles Barry posted I was going to write something about 
how conspiracy theories are probably created by the government to distract 
everyone from what a crap job they actually do at running the country. Be nice 
to think there was someone in power who could organise a job that big, we can't 
even make a computer system to link up health districts without the ministry 
going bankrupt and abandoning it. 
 
 The USA is a very dirty place.  It was that way from it's inception because 
some of the wealthy landowners didn't want their workers to have rights and 
some wanted the US to still be beholding to Britain.  Our democracy is an 
illusion and the king makers hate anyone who points that out.  A lot more 
people would have probably taken to the streets during the Occupy Movement but 
they feared losing their jobs.  We live in a country of increasing "have nots", 
people who have lost even their simple pleasures of life because a plan to put 
all but a few in austerity.
 
 So many detractors here seem to have little knowledge of history and just 
react emotionally.  I guess some folks want to live in a simple world of Santy 
Claus and Easter Bunnies.
 
 Both of which are inventions, just like the conspiracies.
 
 
 What worries is me that you have such a disconnect from the people that run 
the US that you actually think they would murder thousands of their own people 
for reasons best known to themselves. 


 
 Whoa, Jack! You're half reading me.  I'm not alleging that our politicians 
conspired to pull off 9-11.  It's a shadow government that many people in the 
US believe exists (and probably many folks in the UK believe about your own 
government).  Killing thousands would rile up Americans (and believe me the 
days following they were insanely riled) to support anything the  government 
asked if it involved retaliation.  So Arab terrorists did 9-11 and we go off 
and bomb Afghanistan and Iraq.  Shouldn't we have bombed Saudi Arabia instead?  
Something wrong with that picture?
 
 BTW, for some reason a lot of people who worked at the WTC were told to stay 
home that day.
 
 There's a kind of movement like that in the UK about the Islamic terrorist 
that blew up some tube trains a decade ago. The story goes that the government 
knew about it but let it happen because it would be an excuse to rachet up the 
anti-terror laws, which completely coincidentally can also be used to harass 
innocent people whenever the state feels like it.





 
 The UK subway bombings indeed smell of a false flag.  These types of 
operations have been around for centuries but I guess that history wasn't your 
favorite subject?
 
 
 
 I don't believe it for the simple fact that however cynical politicians get 
it's their own friends and family that might get blown up. You don't seem to 
have that sort of human link, sure the govt in the US has blood on its hands 
but the 9/11 conspiracies are qualitatively different from interfering in the 
politics of left wing countries or suppressing anti-capitalist demonstrations. 
It isn't a quantitative thing at all.





 
 See my above comment.
 
 
 
 I think it's the conspiracists that react emotionally, something unbelievable 
happens and the dots get joined up irrationally, anything to make it make sense 
that doesn't just mean the world is so dangerous a bunch of religious 
fruitcakes can wal

Re: [FairfieldLife] D Lynch

[salyavin808]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 C'mon! They didn't really claim Lynch's smoking is his self referral??

 

 Of course they did! The statement means nothing so it can be co-opted to 
support anything you like.
 

 I had it explained to me by our "raja", he said that what you do is close your 
eyes and look inwards at your "self" and it will tell you if something is 
right. I always that that was called desire or even just agreeing with yourself 
and didn't know why the TMO gave it a special name but it's like that with a 
lot of kooky spiritual stuff, makes them think they have better life skills 
than the rest of us.
 

 The example he used on me was astrology, when I told I thought it was a crock 
he said he wondered about it too until he looked at his "self" and found he 
agreed with himself. (?)
 

 Maybe we should do that with 9/11 conspiracies and see how the "self" guides 
us. LOL.
 

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 5:02 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] D Lynch
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 He'd probably weigh over 300 pounds if he quit both. 
 

 I think Bevan Morris should get back on the fags then, and Hagelin is looking 
a but chubby these days. I can just see them on the Marshy channel stubbing one 
out in an ashtray and swigging back the dregs of a 'cino before puja. It's 
vedic, they'll cough.
 

 They had to find a way of excusing Lynchees habits, so they claimed it was 
self-referral. Like that explains anything at all.
 

  He is probably typical American pitta-kapha and kapha dominant too much of 
the time.  Those two substances are known in ayurveda to reduce kapha.  My late 
tantra guru probably would not have have died of congestive heart failure if he 
had not quit smoking.  He immediately put on weight when he quit.  I also think 
that people who are kapha will be less likely get emphysema from smoking as 
that tends to happen more with vata types.
 
 Creative people often fight with having a creative mindset and being able to 
act on it.  For instance a lot of jazz musicians were bright people who easily 
learned their instruments and music theory but a bit too high strung to play 
well without some help from drugs (or some meditation).
  
 On 10/11/2014 11:27 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   "I must have a very high tolerance for caffeine," he says. "I always 
associated smoking and drinking coffee with the art life. They go hand in hand. 
There's something about drinking coffee and smoking that makes me happy and 
facilitates thinking. I just really love those things." - David Lynch