[FairfieldLife] TV series mini-review: "Better Call Saul"

2015-02-10 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Scam Artist (being wheeled into the emergency room because of an insane drug 
boss Jimmy talked him into trying to shake down): You're the worst lawyer ever.

Jimmy McGill (soon to be Saul Goodman): Hey, I just talked you down from a 
death sentence to six months' probation -- I'm the best lawyer ever.

The "Breaking Bad" gang is back. Or at least a few of its regulars -- Vince 
Gilligan (series creator), Bob Odenkirk (Saul), and familiar characters like 
Mike Ermantraut and Tuco Salamanca -- are back, and it's a delight to see them 
again. Especially for me, because although I never lived in Albuquerque I did 
live in Santa Fe and know ugly-ass Albuquerque far too well. I recognize most 
of the neighborhoods, bars, and buildings they film in. Plus I really chuckle 
at seeing characters in the final credits with names like No-Doze and Gonzo and 
Snake Face and Breadstick Guy. It's all so familiar, in an odd sort of way. 

The writing and direction is familiar, too, in the same odd sort of way. I 
won't say more, because if you watched "Breaking Bad" you're already watching 
this series. But for those who may have missed out on the comic brilliance of 
that series, "Better Call Saul" gives you a second chance, and I don't want to 
spoil it for you. 

This is a really, really funny series. If you're a fan of dark humor, that is. 

And Jimmy/Saul is right. As lawyers (only one step up evolutionarily from pond 
scum) go, he really is the best lawyer ever. 





[FairfieldLife] Just because they're losers doesn't mean someone else "won"

2015-02-10 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Ah, I see that folks over on The_Leak must be bored with their lives again, 
because they're obsessing about FFL and about *ME* again.  :-)
Ann (still pissed off because I rightly called her what she is a few times and 
did the same for the poseur she's still got a crush on decades after he dumped 
her) is leading the charge, claiming that this place (FFL) is now "run by" me 
and a few of my cronies. I think she's mistaking her and a few others running 
away from FFL with their tails between their legs (thus demonstrating that 
they're losers) for me being a "winner." :-)
As for Bimbo himself, he must have been contacted by the police because he's 
avoiding actual libel these days, but he's still claiming that he was justified 
in slinging his libel in the first place. And why? Because I used a throwaway 
phrase to make a point, but a point that he got all crazy about because the 
phrase was used in conjunction with someone he never met but whom he has placed 
upon a pedestal (MMY). Oh well...if that's how he wishes to demonstrate the 
non-attachment of the enlightened, so be it.  :-)

Bottom line as I see it is that the ones who are over on The_Leak still whining 
about how they were "run off" from FFL are trying to make it seem as if I "won" 
something that was never a battle to be won in the first place. I merely did 
what I've always done -- spoke my mind in as colorful and entertaining a 
fashion as I could manage -- and they couldn't cope with that without getting 
all bent behind it. 

In retrospect I think the thing they're still obsessing on me about and the 
thing that hurt them the most that they can't get over is that I never took any 
of them seriously. And they *NEED* to be taken seriously. Bimbo *NEEDS* it so 
desperately that he's created an entire forum dedicated to taking him 
seriously, populated primarily by others who he allows to stay *only as long as 
they continue to take him seriously*. 

Whatever floats yer boat, I say. Anybody who actually respects that level of 
neediness is welcome to it. 

As for any real comments on the nature of the group itself, all I have to say 
is that when I scan The_Leak once a week or so to make sure I don't have to 
report Bimbo to the cops again, the only posts I find there worth reading all 
the way through are those made by Anartaxius. His clarity stands out amongst 
all the dimwittedness like a spotlight hiding in a pile of Christmas tree 
bulbs. The only thing I find interesting so far about The_Leak is the question 
of how long it will be until Bimbo kicks Anartaxius off for doing what he 
cannot -- being interesting.  :-)



[FairfieldLife] Contingencies

2015-02-10 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
What do you say if disaster strikes?
 xkcd: Apollo Speeches http://www.xkcd.com/1484/

 
 
 http://www.xkcd.com/1484/ 
 
 xkcd: Apollo Speeches http://www.xkcd.com/1484/ Apollo Speeches |< < Prev 
Random Next > >| |< < Prev Random Next > >| Permanent link to this comic: 
http://xkcd.com/1484/ 
 
 
 
 View on www.xkcd.com http://www.xkcd.com/1484/ 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
 

 And if you are interested, the original Safire speech:
 Letters of Note: IN EVENT OF MOON DISASTER 
http://www.lettersofnote.com/2010/11/in-event-of-moon-disaster.html

 
 
 Letters of Note: IN EVENT OF MOON DISASTER 
http://www.lettersofnote.com/2010/11/in-event-of-moon-disaster.html Fascinating 
letters. Interesting correspondence.
 
 
 
 View on www.lettersofnote.com 
http://www.lettersofnote.com/2010/11/in-event-of-moon-disaster.html 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
 

 Hey this is a great site (another two samples follows).
 

 Letters of Note: Damn you all to hell 
http://www.lettersofnote.com/2012/10/damn-you-all-to-hell.html

 
 
 Letters of Note: Damn you all to hell 
http://www.lettersofnote.com/2012/10/damn-you-all-to-hell.html Fascinating 
letters. Interesting correspondence.
 
 
 
 View on www.lettersofnote.com 
http://www.lettersofnote.com/2012/10/damn-you-all-to-hell.html 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
 

 Herbal medicine anyone?
 Letters of Note: An idiot of the 33rd degree 
http://www.lettersofnote.com/2010/01/youre-idiot-of-33rd-degree.html

 
 
 http://www.lettersofnote.com/2010/01/youre-idiot-of-33rd-degree.html 
 
 Letters of Note: An idiot of the 33rd degree 
http://www.lettersofnote.com/2010/01/youre-idiot-of-33rd-degree.html 
Fascinating letters. Interesting correspondence.
 
 
 
 View on www.lettersofnote.com 
http://www.lettersofnote.com/2010/01/youre-idiot-of-33rd-degree.html 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rick - Until the Vicious Negativity is removed - Goodbye

2015-02-10 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 2:43 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rick - Until the Vicious Negativity is 
removed - Goodbye
   
    Well, I could provide content toFairfieldLife at yahoo-groups and 
participate more on FFL if Rickwould do more to protect people on his FFL list 
from the endemicunkindness that has taken it over. 
Well, it may be "unkind" of me to point it out, but it seems to me that if the 
people who used to participate on this list but who stalked away from it in a 
snit *of their own making* and *voluntarily* ran off to create another forum 
had anything to say, they'd be here saying it. Instead -- like Buck -- the 
*only* thing they seem to do when they come here is whine about how persecuted 
they are. 

Surely these wimps can't be TMers. Because as we all know TMers are  I N V I N 
C I B L E, and wouldn't run away whining like scared little puppies just 
because they weren't treated the way they wanted to be treated. Seems to me 
that if any of these folks actually *had something to say* BESIDES whining, 
they'd fit in better here, and enjoy it more. 

I've invited Buck to actually  S A Y   S O M E T H I N G  other than whining 
and actually have an ongoing conversation with someone -- anyone -- here many 
times. And just as many times he's ignored it and continued to act like a whiny 
little bitch. So I can't say that I have much sympathy for his claims of either 
"unkindness" or his even more laughable claim that this place has been "taken 
over." 

THE WHINY LITTLE BITCHES RAN AWAY.
NO ONE FORCED THEM TO DO SO. 

NO ONE "TOOK OVER" FAIRFIELD LIFE. 

WE'RE JUST THE ONES WHO ARE STILL LEFT HERE AFTER THEY RAN AWAY, THAT'S ALL. 

Buck's just whining because *he doesn't have what it takes* to interact with 
his fellow human beings on an equal basis, without being granted special 
privileges for being as "special" as he considers himself to be. If he *ever* 
interacted with *anyone* here as an equal, that would be a first. As it stands, 
I for one don't miss his whining and his preaching. And I for one really 
*can't* miss what it's like to interact with Doug Hamilton As A Person, because 
in the entire time I've known him at FFL he's *never* been able to get over his 
need to preach to people as if they were lesser than he is and act like a human 
being. 

In other words, his drive-bys since he "left" have just been a replay of what 
he was like when he was "here." Nothing to see here folks, just keep driving. 

OR, if you actually have something to say, stick around and say it. But don't 
expect anyone to feel sorry for you if you've established a many-year history 
of *never* being able to interact with people as if they were your equal, and 
then you whine about *them* being unkind. Treating pretty much everyone you 
meet as if they are less than you are is the most unkind thing I could imagine 
anyone doing, and sorry to say it, but that describes Doug Hamilton to a T.
Look at what he chose as a Subject line. He's not even a participating *member* 
of FFL any more (and whining about it), but he still feels so  E N T I T L E D  
that he feels he has the right to demand that Rick "remove" the people he 
doesn't like. Can you *say* "Entitled Elitism?" I think you can.
I suggest that Rick *already* removed the negativity from Fairfield Life. By 
allowing them to leave, of their own volition.  


  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Contingencies

2015-02-10 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
These are great. 

And since Buck lives in the past so much and obviously can't cope with living 
in our century, if he is looking for an example of what he calls "unkindness" 
and I call "telling it like it is," I think he should read the Mark Twain 
letter a few times.  :-)
 From: "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 2:39 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Contingencies
   
    What do you say if disaster strikes?xkcd: Apollo Speeches
 
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And if you are interested, the original Safire speech:Letters of Note: IN EVENT 
OF MOON DISASTER
 
||
||   Letters of Note: IN EVENT OF MOON DISASTER  Fascinating letters. 
Interesting correspondence.||
|  View on www.lettersofnote.com  |Preview by Yahoo|
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Hey this is a great site (another two samples follows).
Letters of Note: Damn you all to hell
 
||
||   Letters of Note: Damn you all to hell  Fascinating letters. 
Interesting correspondence.||
|  View on www.lettersofnote.com  |Preview by Yahoo|
||

 
Herbal medicine anyone?Letters of Note: An idiot of the 33rd degree
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Just because they're losers doesn't mean someone else "won"

2015-02-10 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]

 It looks like Willytex won the debate. It has now been established that Barry 
is the stalker, the police informant, the lurking-reporter, the poseur, but NOT 
a science writer. Does anyone want to debate that Barry is now in deep 
cognitive dissonance?

According to what I've read, narcissism is the pursuit of gratification from 
vanity, or egotistic admiration of one's own physical or mental attributes, 
that derive from arrogant pride. LoL!

"What I'm talking about is slowly lifting up off the sofa and sitting
in midair for two to three minutes. Or stepping up off the ground in
the desert and then flying around several feet above the ground for 
a while."  - TurquoiseBee

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/143231 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/143231

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ah, I see that folks over on The_Leak must be bored with their lives again, 
because they're obsessing about FFL and about *ME* again.  :-)
 

 Ann (still pissed off because I rightly called her what she is a few times and 
did the same for the poseur she's still got a crush on decades after he dumped 
her) is leading the charge, claiming that this place (FFL) is now "run by" me 
and a few of my cronies. I think she's mistaking her and a few others running 
away from FFL with their tails between their legs (thus demonstrating that 
they're losers) for me being a "winner." :-)
 

As for Bimbo himself, he must have been contacted by the police because he's 
avoiding actual libel these days, but he's still claiming that he was justified 
in slinging his libel in the first place. And why? Because I used a throwaway 
phrase to make a point, but a point that he got all crazy about because the 
phrase was used in conjunction with someone he never met but whom he has placed 
upon a pedestal (MMY). Oh well...if that's how he wishes to demonstrate the 
non-attachment of the enlightened, so be it.  :-)
 

 Bottom line as I see it is that the ones who are over on The_Leak still 
whining about how they were "run off" from FFL are trying to make it seem as if 
I "won" something that was never a battle to be won in the first place. I 
merely did what I've always done -- spoke my mind in as colorful and 
entertaining a fashion as I could manage -- and they couldn't cope with that 
without getting all bent behind it. 

 

 In retrospect I think the thing they're still obsessing on me about and the 
thing that hurt them the most that they can't get over is that I never took any 
of them seriously. And they *NEED* to be taken seriously. Bimbo *NEEDS* it so 
desperately that he's created an entire forum dedicated to taking him 
seriously, populated primarily by others who he allows to stay *only as long as 
they continue to take him seriously*. 

 

 Whatever floats yer boat, I say. Anybody who actually respects that level of 
neediness is welcome to it. 

 

 As for any real comments on the nature of the group itself, all I have to say 
is that when I scan The_Leak once a week or so to make sure I don't have to 
report Bimbo to the cops again, the only posts I find there worth reading all 
the way through are those made by Anartaxius. His clarity stands out amongst 
all the dimwittedness like a spotlight hiding in a pile of Christmas tree 
bulbs. The only thing I find interesting so far about The_Leak is the question 
of how long it will be until Bimbo kicks Anartaxius off for doing what he 
cannot -- being interesting.  :-)
 

 




  


Re: [FairfieldLife] Contingencies

2015-02-10 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]

 "There's battle lines being drawn. Nobody's right if everybody's wrong. Young 
people speaking their minds, Getting so much resistance from behind. I think 
it's time we stop, hey, what's that sound? Everybody look what's going down." - 
Stephen Stills

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 These are great. 

 

 And since Buck lives in the past so much and obviously can't cope with living 
in our century, if he is looking for an example of what he calls "unkindness" 
and I call "telling it like it is," I think he should read the Mark Twain 
letter a few times.  :-)
 

 From: "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 2:39 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Contingencies
 
 
   
 What do you say if disaster strikes?
 xkcd: Apollo Speeches http://www.xkcd.com/1484/

 
 
 http://www.xkcd.com/1484/
 
 xkcd: Apollo Speeches http://www.xkcd.com/1484/ Apollo Speeches |< < Prev 
Random Next > >| |< < Prev Random Next > >| Permanent link to this comic: 
http://xkcd.com/1484/


 
 View on www.xkcd.com http://www.xkcd.com/1484/
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 

 And if you are interested, the original Safire speech:
 Letters of Note: IN EVENT OF MOON DISASTER 
http://www.lettersofnote.com/2010/11/in-event-of-moon-disaster.html

 
 
 Letters of Note: IN EVENT OF MOON DISASTER 
http://www.lettersofnote.com/2010/11/in-event-of-moon-disaster.html Fascinating 
letters. Interesting correspondence.


 
 View on www.lettersofnote.com 
http://www.lettersofnote.com/2010/11/in-event-of-moon-disaster.html
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 

 Hey this is a great site (another two samples follows).
 

 Letters of Note: Damn you all to hell 
http://www.lettersofnote.com/2012/10/damn-you-all-to-hell.html

 
 
 Letters of Note: Damn you all to hell 
http://www.lettersofnote.com/2012/10/damn-you-all-to-hell.html Fascinating 
letters. Interesting correspondence.


 
 View on www.lettersofnote.com 
http://www.lettersofnote.com/2012/10/damn-you-all-to-hell.html
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 

 Herbal medicine anyone?
 Letters of Note: An idiot of the 33rd degree 
http://www.lettersofnote.com/2010/01/youre-idiot-of-33rd-degree.html

 
 
 http://www.lettersofnote.com/2010/01/youre-idiot-of-33rd-degree.html
 
 Letters of Note: An idiot of the 33rd degree 
http://www.lettersofnote.com/2010/01/youre-idiot-of-33rd-degree.html 
Fascinating letters. Interesting correspondence.


 
 View on www.lettersofnote.com 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] At least there was a reason....

2015-02-10 Thread salyavin808

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Your Subject line just nails it. Now it's finally understandable.  :-)
 

 And if I was him I would still be feeling flattered.
 

 

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 7:30 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] At least there was a reason
 
 
   
 Manson wedding off after it emerges that his fiance just wanted his corpse for 
display 
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/charles-manson-wedding-off-after-it-emerges-that-girlfriend-afton-elaine-burton-just-wanted-his-corpse-for-display-10034793.html

 
 
 
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/charles-manson-wedding-off-after-it-emerges-that-girlfriend-afton-elaine-burton-just-wanted-his-corpse-for-display-10034793.html
 
 Manson wedding off after it emerges that his fiance just... 
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 Serial killer Charles Manson's supposed budding romance with a woman 53 years 
his junior has been allegedly exposed as a money-making scheme.


 
 View on www.independent.co.uk 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Contingencies

2015-02-10 Thread salyavin808

 I remember reading that if the astronauts had been stranded on the moon NASA 
were going to pretend to have lost contact with them even if they hadn't, to 
spare their families from the agony of hearing them die.
 

 Aldrin also claimed in his book The Men From Earth that he wanted to say "That 
may have been a small step for a big guy like Neil but for an itty-bitty fella 
like me it's a giant leap" as he stepped onto the moon but they wouldn't let 
him. 
 

 Luckily his "magnificent desolation" quote was a pretty good attempt at drama.
 

 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 What do you say if disaster strikes?
 xkcd: Apollo Speeches http://www.xkcd.com/1484/

 
 
 http://www.xkcd.com/1484/
 
 xkcd: Apollo Speeches http://www.xkcd.com/1484/ Apollo Speeches |< < Prev 
Random Next > >| |< < Prev Random Next > >| Permanent link to this comic: 
http://xkcd.com/1484/


 
 View on www.xkcd.com http://www.xkcd.com/1484/
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 

 And if you are interested, the original Safire speech:
 Letters of Note: IN EVENT OF MOON DISASTER 
http://www.lettersofnote.com/2010/11/in-event-of-moon-disaster.html

 
 
 Letters of Note: IN EVENT OF MOON DISASTER 
http://www.lettersofnote.com/2010/11/in-event-of-moon-disaster.html Fascinating 
letters. Interesting correspondence.


 
 View on www.lettersofnote.com 
http://www.lettersofnote.com/2010/11/in-event-of-moon-disaster.html
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 

 Hey this is a great site (another two samples follows).
 

 Letters of Note: Damn you all to hell 
http://www.lettersofnote.com/2012/10/damn-you-all-to-hell.html

 
 
 Letters of Note: Damn you all to hell 
http://www.lettersofnote.com/2012/10/damn-you-all-to-hell.html Fascinating 
letters. Interesting correspondence.


 
 View on www.lettersofnote.com 
http://www.lettersofnote.com/2012/10/damn-you-all-to-hell.html
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 

 Herbal medicine anyone?
 Letters of Note: An idiot of the 33rd degree 
http://www.lettersofnote.com/2010/01/youre-idiot-of-33rd-degree.html

 
 
 http://www.lettersofnote.com/2010/01/youre-idiot-of-33rd-degree.html
 
 Letters of Note: An idiot of the 33rd degree 
http://www.lettersofnote.com/2010/01/youre-idiot-of-33rd-degree.html 
Fascinating letters. Interesting correspondence.


 
 View on www.lettersofnote.com 
http://www.lettersofnote.com/2010/01/youre-idiot-of-33rd-degree.html
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 





Re: [FairfieldLife] Contingencies

2015-02-10 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]

I think we're all just waiting for the other shoe to drop.

On 02/10/2015 05:39 AM, anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


What do you say if disaster strikes?

xkcd: Apollo Speeches 




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And if you are interested, the original Safire speech:

Letters of Note: IN EVENT OF MOON DISASTER 






Letters of Note: IN EVENT OF MOON DISASTER 


Fascinating letters. Interesting correspondence.

View on www.lettersofnote.com 



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Hey this is a great site (another two samples follows).


Letters of Note: Damn you all to hell 






Letters of Note: Damn you all to hell 


Fascinating letters. Interesting correspondence.

View on www.lettersofnote.com 



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Herbal medicine anyone?

Letters of Note: An idiot of the 33rd degree 






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Letters of Note: An idiot of the 33rd degree 


Fascinating letters. Interesting correspondence.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Contingencies

2015-02-10 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 6:08 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Contingencies
   
    I remember reading that if the astronauts had been stranded on the moon 
NASA were going to pretend to have lost contact with them even if they hadn't, 
to spare their families from the agony of hearing them die.
Aldrin also claimed in his book The Men From Earth that he wanted to say "That 
may have been a small step for a big guy like Neil but for an itty-bitty fella 
like me it's a giant leap" as he stepped onto the moon but they wouldn't let 
him. 
Luckily his "magnificent desolation" quote was a pretty good attempt at drama.
I once had a wonderful coffee table book...uh...ON my coffee table called (I'm 
pretty sure) "The Home Planet." 
(The Home Planet (Outer Space Photography ))

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| The Home Planet (Outer Space Photography )The Home Planet (Outer Space 
Photography ) [Kevin W. Kelley, Jacques - Yves Cousteau, Association of Space 
Explorers] on Amazon.com. *FREE* shipping on qualifying offers. Six weeks on 
The New York Times bestseller list, and 500, 000 copies sold in 16 editions 
around the world |
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 It was all photos of Earth taken from space, and in such quality that this 
would have been amazing in itself. But what really *made* the book for me is 
that the words were written *only* by people who had been there, done that. 
That is to say, the only ones allowed to comment on what our home planet 
actually looks like from space were those who had -- on either US or Soviet 
spacecraft -- seen it *from* space. 

It was remarkable. The Russians were more poetic, but without exception 
everyone did a great job. In both space agencies, the astronauts went into 
space as test pilots who had been selected *because* the people who selected 
them thought they'd follow orders and act like well-programmed robots and not 
get all Woo Woo during their voyages. Instead, *all* of them who contributed to 
this book got all Woo Woo. 

My copy disappeared in some move years ago. But the Amazon page cited above 
tells me this book is now available in hardback for as little as 24 cents US. 
Such a deal...


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

What do you say if disaster strikes?xkcd: Apollo Speeches

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And if you are interested, the original Safire speech:Letters of Note: IN EVENT 
OF MOON DISASTER

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Interesting correspondence. |  |
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Hey this is a great site (another two samples follows).
Letters of Note: Damn you all to hell

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Herbal medicine anyone?Letters of Note: An idiot of the 33rd degree

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Contingencies

2015-02-10 Thread salyavin808

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 6:08 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Contingencies
 
 
   I remember reading that if the astronauts had been stranded on the moon NASA 
were going to pretend to have lost contact with them even if they hadn't, to 
spare their families from the agony of hearing them die.
 

 Aldrin also claimed in his book The Men From Earth that he wanted to say "That 
may have been a small step for a big guy like Neil but for an itty-bitty fella 
like me it's a giant leap" as he stepped onto the moon but they wouldn't let 
him. 
 

 Luckily his "magnificent desolation" quote was a pretty good attempt at drama.
 

 I once had a wonderful coffee table book...uh...ON my coffee table called (I'm 
pretty sure) "The Home Planet." 

 (The Home Planet (Outer Space Photography ) 
http://www.amazon.com/Home-Planet-Outer-Space-Photography/dp/0201550954)

  
  
  
  
  
  
 The Home Planet (Outer Space Photography ) 
http://www.amazon.com/Home-Planet-Outer-Space-Photography/dp/0201550954 The 
Home Planet (Outer Space Photography ) [Kevin W. Kelley, Jacques - Yves 
Cousteau, Association of Space Explorers] on Amazon.com. *FREE* shipping on 
qualifying offers. Six weeks on The New York Times bestseller list, and 500, 
000 copies sold in 16 editions around the world


 
 View on www.amazon.com 
http://www.amazon.com/Home-Planet-Outer-Space-Photography/dp/0201550954
 Preview by Yahoo
 
  

  

 It was all photos of Earth taken from space, and in such quality that this 
would have been amazing in itself. But what really *made* the book for me is 
that the words were written *only* by people who had been there, done that. 
That is to say, the only ones allowed to comment on what our home planet 
actually looks like from space were those who had -- on either US or Soviet 
spacecraft -- seen it *from* space. 

 

 It was remarkable. The Russians were more poetic, but without exception 
everyone did a great job. In both space agencies, the astronauts went into 
space as test pilots who had been selected *because* the people who selected 
them thought they'd follow orders and act like well-programmed robots and not 
get all Woo Woo during their voyages. Instead, *all* of them who contributed to 
this book got all Woo Woo. 

 

 My copy disappeared in some move years ago. But the Amazon page cited above 
tells me this book is now available in hardback for as little as 24 cents US. 
Such a deal...

 
I do like a good picture book of space stuff. My favourite was Timothy Ferris' 
book Galaxies, probably out of date compared to the sort of images we get from 
Hubble etc but as journey's from the solar system to the deepest reaches of 
space go it was an awe inspiring ride.
 

 In the above-mentioned book by Buzz he tells of an astronaut who was testing 
the space module on his own and he got very woo-woo. In fact he started 
drivelling on about ice crystals surrounding the ship and seeing meteors 
streaking into the terminator line that separates night and day, and he forgot 
to fire his retro's and missed his splash down site. 
 

 He was dropped from the programme immediately. I felt for him as that would 
most surely have happened to me!
  
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 What do you say if disaster strikes?
 xkcd: Apollo Speeches http://www.xkcd.com/1484/

 
 
 http://www.xkcd.com/1484/
 
 xkcd: Apollo Speeches http://www.xkcd.com/1484/ Apollo Speeches |< < Prev 
Random Next > >| |< < Prev Random Next > >| Permanent link to this comic: 
http://xkcd.com/1484/


 
 View on www.xkcd.com http://www.xkcd.com/1484/
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 

 And if you are interested, the original Safire speech:
 Letters of Note: IN EVENT OF MOON DISASTER 
http://www.lettersofnote.com/2010/11/in-event-of-moon-disaster.html

 
 
 Letters of Note: IN EVENT OF MOON DISASTER 
http://www.lettersofnote.com/2010/11/in-event-of-moon-disaster.html Fascinating 
letters. Interesting correspondence.


 
 View on www.lettersofnote.com 
http://www.lettersofnote.com/2010/11/in-event-of-moon-disaster.html
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 

 Hey this is a great site (another two samples follows).
 

 Letters of Note: Damn you all to hell 
http://www.lettersofnote.com/2012/10/damn-you-all-to-hell.html

 
 
 Letters of Note: Damn you all to hell 
http://www.lettersofnote.com/2012/10/damn-you-all-to-hell.html Fascinating 
letters. Interesting correspondence.


 
 View on www.lettersofnote.com 
http://www.lettersofnote.com/2012/10/damn-you-all-to-hell.html
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 

 Herbal medicine anyone?
 Letters of Note: An idiot of the 33rd degree 
http://www.lettersofnote.com/2010/01/youre-idiot-of-33rd-degree.html

 
 
 http://www.lettersofnote.com/2010/01/youre-idiot-of-33rd-degree.html
 
 Letters of Note: An idiot of the 33rd degree 
http://www.lettersofnote.com/2010/01/youre-idiot-of-33rd-degree.html 
Fascinating letters. Interes

[FairfieldLife] What Constitutes a 'Spiritual Environment?'

2015-02-10 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
How would you define one?

I ask because recently some folks seem to feel (or at the very least act) as if 
they know fersure what a spiritual environment is, and what one is not. For 
example, a few people have bailed recently from *this* environment, citing as 
their reason (paraphrasing) that it's Not Spiritual Enough For Them. They've 
gone forth into the cyberwilderness seeking an environment that they feel IS 
Spiritual Enough For Them, and a few of these noble seekers have settled upon 
The_Peak. There is something about that forum that tempts them to believe that 
it's spiritual, whereas this one is not. 

This fascinates me because when I scan the messages on The_Peak, I find it more 
than a little boring. Really. There is a *sameness* there, a lack of 
intellectual risk-taking, a "having settled" vibe that I just don't get the 
attraction of. I would characterize it as having the energy of stasis, as 
opposed to the energy of movement. Not spiritual at all. 

But that's possibly because I spent some time in the Rama trip, which did not 
have quite the same definitions of what constitutes a spiritual environment as 
the TMO did. We'd meditate to music on the dance floor in Techno clubs and in 
comfy seats in Carnegie Hall, and prefer the meds in the Techno clubs. We'd 
have formal dinners at Windows On The World, back when that restaurant still 
existed. We'd go out for "field trips" to the movies, to museums, to places of 
power, to Disneyland. For a warped few of us, at one point our definition of 
spending time in a spiritual environment meant living in the Red Light district 
of Amsterdam and teaching mediation for free there to thousands of people, just 
for the fun of it. Different strokes for different folks. 

So when I ponder what a spiritual environment might be, please understand that 
I approach that question from a far different perspective than many here might. 
Their idea of what a spiritual environment is might be based on their 
experience of TM centers, or TMO domes, or churches, or ashrams, or New Age 
Whatever. In terms of how people interact -- and "should" interact -- in such 
spiritual environments, they might feel that how one is "supposed" to act in 
such places is similar to how they're "supposed" to act in a church, or an 
ashram.  

Me, I think of spiritual environments as more of a dojo -- a place in which to 
study martial arts. Thus I think of the decorum one "should" bring to a 
spiritual environment as similar to that one brings to a dojo. But a good dojo. 
One that produces champions. 

Bad dojos produce bad martial artists. They allow the people who study or 
practice there to believe that they're better than they are. A good dojo never 
allows that to happen, because they know that's a short path to getting one's 
ass whupped in the real world. If your punch is feeble and ineffective, you 
*don't* want someone telling you it's powerful and that you rock, because it 
ISN'T, and you DON'T. Whether you are an instructor in such an environment or a 
student, it is your responsibility to ensure that no one is allowed to believe 
that they're better than they really are. You owe it to them to tell them the 
truth, as you see it.

So the 'tude I most associate with a spiritual environment is a willingness to 
be told the truth about one's own progress. As opposed to a longing to be told 
how wonderful and skilled and advanced one is, when one...uh...isn't. 

What are the characteristics YOU most associate with the phrase "a spiritual 
environment?" I'm honestly curious.
The other thing I'm curious about, if anyone wants to rap about it, is this.  
If you feel that you can only have what you consider spiritual experiences in 
environments that you consider spiritual, and that you *can't* have spiritual 
experiences in environments that you *don't* consider spiritual, doesn't that 
make you LESS spiritual than someone who can have spiritual experiences pretty 
much anywhere, anytime?  :-)




[FairfieldLife] Fascinating and wonderful "culture clash" article

2015-02-10 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Hooping with Hijab | Narratively | Human stories, boldly told.

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focus instead on ordinary people with extraordinary stories. |
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Re: [FairfieldLife] What Constitutes a 'Spiritual Environment?'

2015-02-10 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
the universe is a spiritual environmentevery experience is a spiritual 
experiencetruth is always presenting itself

  From: "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife  
 Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 12:34 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] What Constitutes a 'Spiritual Environment?'
   
    How would you define one?

I ask because recently some folks seem to feel (or at the very least act) as if 
they know fersure what a spiritual environment is, and what one is not. For 
example, a few people have bailed recently from *this* environment, citing as 
their reason (paraphrasing) that it's Not Spiritual Enough For Them. They've 
gone forth into the cyberwilderness seeking an environment that they feel IS 
Spiritual Enough For Them, and a few of these noble seekers have settled upon 
The_Peak. There is something about that forum that tempts them to believe that 
it's spiritual, whereas this one is not. 

This fascinates me because when I scan the messages on The_Peak, I find it more 
than a little boring. Really. There is a *sameness* there, a lack of 
intellectual risk-taking, a "having settled" vibe that I just don't get the 
attraction of. I would characterize it as having the energy of stasis, as 
opposed to the energy of movement. Not spiritual at all. 

But that's possibly because I spent some time in the Rama trip, which did not 
have quite the same definitions of what constitutes a spiritual environment as 
the TMO did. We'd meditate to music on the dance floor in Techno clubs and in 
comfy seats in Carnegie Hall, and prefer the meds in the Techno clubs. We'd 
have formal dinners at Windows On The World, back when that restaurant still 
existed. We'd go out for "field trips" to the movies, to museums, to places of 
power, to Disneyland. For a warped few of us, at one point our definition of 
spending time in a spiritual environment meant living in the Red Light district 
of Amsterdam and teaching mediation for free there to thousands of people, just 
for the fun of it. Different strokes for different folks. 

So when I ponder what a spiritual environment might be, please understand that 
I approach that question from a far different perspective than many here might. 
Their idea of what a spiritual environment is might be based on their 
experience of TM centers, or TMO domes, or churches, or ashrams, or New Age 
Whatever. In terms of how people interact -- and "should" interact -- in such 
spiritual environments, they might feel that how one is "supposed" to act in 
such places is similar to how they're "supposed" to act in a church, or an 
ashram.  

Me, I think of spiritual environments as more of a dojo -- a place in which to 
study martial arts. Thus I think of the decorum one "should" bring to a 
spiritual environment as similar to that one brings to a dojo. But a good dojo. 
One that produces champions. 

Bad dojos produce bad martial artists. They allow the people who study or 
practice there to believe that they're better than they are. A good dojo never 
allows that to happen, because they know that's a short path to getting one's 
ass whupped in the real world. If your punch is feeble and ineffective, you 
*don't* want someone telling you it's powerful and that you rock, because it 
ISN'T, and you DON'T. Whether you are an instructor in such an environment or a 
student, it is your responsibility to ensure that no one is allowed to believe 
that they're better than they really are. You owe it to them to tell them the 
truth, as you see it.

So the 'tude I most associate with a spiritual environment is a willingness to 
be told the truth about one's own progress. As opposed to a longing to be told 
how wonderful and skilled and advanced one is, when one...uh...isn't. 

What are the characteristics YOU most associate with the phrase "a spiritual 
environment?" I'm honestly curious.
The other thing I'm curious about, if anyone wants to rap about it, is this.  
If you feel that you can only have what you consider spiritual experiences in 
environments that you consider spiritual, and that you *can't* have spiritual 
experiences in environments that you *don't* consider spiritual, doesn't that 
make you LESS spiritual than someone who can have spiritual experiences pretty 
much anywhere, anytime?  :-)


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rick - Until the Vicious Negativity is removed - Goodbye

2015-02-10 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]

On 02/10/2015 05:43 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:



*Bhairitu in FFL post # 409743 now maligns:*

“..Buck is in a fugue state..”



Looks like somebody didn't get the joke. :-D



Re: [FairfieldLife] TV series mini-review: "Better Call Saul"

2015-02-10 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
I'm going to watch the first episode on VUDU where it's free.  Probably 
free on Amazon and elsewhere but VUDU has 9 mbps streams.  Amazon's PQ 
sometimes sucks.


On 02/10/2015 12:33 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
*Scam Artist (being wheeled into the emergency room because of an 
insane drug boss Jimmy talked him into trying to shake down): /You're 
the worst lawyer ever./


Jimmy McGill (soon to be Saul Goodman): /Hey, I just talked you down 
from a death sentence to six months' probation -- I'm the best lawyer 
ever./

*
*/The "Breaking Bad" gang is back. Or at least a few of its regulars 
-- Vince Gilligan (series creator), Bob Odenkirk (Saul), and familiar 
characters like Mike Ermantraut and Tuco Salamanca -- are back, and 
it's a delight to see them again. Especially for me, because although 
I never lived in Albuquerque I did live in Santa Fe and know ugly-ass 
Albuquerque far too well. I recognize most of the neighborhoods, bars, 
and buildings they film in. Plus I really chuckle at seeing characters 
in the final credits with names like No-Doze and Gonzo and Snake Face 
and Breadstick Guy. It's all so familiar, in an odd sort of way.


The writing and direction is familiar, too, in the same odd sort of 
way. I won't say more, because if you watched "Breaking Bad" you're 
already watching this series. But for those who may have missed out on 
the comic brilliance of that series, "Better Call Saul" gives you a 
second chance, and I don't want to spoil it for you.


This is a really, really funny series. If you're a fan of dark humor, 
that is.


And Jimmy/Saul is right. As lawyers (only one step up evolutionarily 
from pond scum) go, he really is the best lawyer ever.



/*






Re: [FairfieldLife] TV series mini-review: "Better Call Saul"

2015-02-10 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 9:44 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] TV series mini-review: "Better Call Saul"
   
 I'm going to watch the first episode on VUDU where it's free.  Probably 
free on Amazon and elsewhere but VUDU has 9 mbps streams.  Amazon's PQ 
sometimes sucks.
My review, such as it is, is based on the *two* first episodes, aired on 
successive nights this week. The first episode was good, but for me it really 
took the second for me to recognize the old Breaking Bad amazingnessitude. 
 
 On 02/10/2015 12:33 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
  


     Scam Artist (being wheeled into the emergency room because of an insane 
drug boss Jimmy talked him into trying to shake down): You're the worst lawyer 
ever.
 
 Jimmy McGill (soon to be Saul Goodman): Hey, I just talked you down from a 
death sentence to six months' probation -- I'm the best lawyer ever.
 
 The "Breaking Bad" gang is back. Or at least a few of its regulars -- Vince 
Gilligan (series creator), Bob Odenkirk (Saul),  and familiar characters like 
Mike Ermantraut and Tuco Salamanca -- are back, and it's a delight to see them 
again. Especially for me, because although I never lived in Albuquerque I did 
live in Santa Fe and know ugly-ass Albuquerque far  too well. I recognize most 
of the neighborhoods, bars, and buildings they film in. Plus I really chuckle 
at seeing characters in the final credits with names like No-Doze and Gonzo and 
Snake Face and Breadstick Guy. It's all so  familiar, in an odd sort of way. 
 
 The writing and direction is familiar, too, in the same odd sort of way. I 
won't say more, because if you watched "Breaking Bad" you're already watching 
this series. But for those who may have missed out on the comic brilliance of  
that series, "Better Call Saul" gives you a second chance, and I don't want to 
spoil it for you. 
 
 This is a really, really funny series. If you're a fan of dark humor, that is. 
 
 And Jimmy/Saul is right. As lawyers (only one step up evolutionarily from pond 
scum) go, he really is the best lawyer ever. 
 
 
  

 
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[FairfieldLife] As it was

2015-02-10 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
As it was in the beginning,It now and ever shall be, 
World without end, Amen, Amen!
No Big Bang? Quantum equation predicts universe has no beginning
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[FairfieldLife] Re: What Constitutes a 'Spiritual Environment?' [2 Attachments]

2015-02-10 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I really do not define it. One could metaphorically say it follows me around, 
so it is not necessary to look for it. I do like quiet most of the time. At the 
moment there is a somewhat messy desk, with a computer, speakers (because I am 
listening to music), some rechargeable batteries and a charger, a backup hard 
drive, various pieces of paper including bills, a cell phone charger, a printer 
and other pieces of equipment. I am trying to put off working on something 
necessary.  

 I am listening to a piece by Mozart, written in 1774 when he was 18 for 
ceremonies at the University of Salzburg. I was curious how he handled the 
orchestration of the end of a particular movement. That section and the score 
are attached to this post. [To sound properly you need good speakers or 
headphones that have good, natural, but not exaggerated bass, and play it 
loud.] It is an example how you can create the impression of a lot of power 
with just mostly repeated notes and mostly a single chord. The last six 
measures are a single D-major chord with just variations in which instruments 
are playing. Any great composer in any genre of music has the ability to spin a 
web of sound that often seems far more complex than it is. It's magical in part 
because we do not know how they did it. 

 The same goes for spirituality. It seems a lot is happening, and it seems 
there are all these details one must somehow master, but really it is all 
mostly nothing at all. If you cannot find a spiritual environment where you are 
now, you will never find one at all. If I am on The Peak, that is my spiritual 
environment; if I am on FFL, that is my spiritual environment. If I am on the 
pot, that too is my spiritual environment (and one that offers a lot of relief, 
at my age).
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 How would you define one?

I ask because recently some folks seem to feel (or at the very least act) as if 
they know fersure what a spiritual environment is, and what one is not. For 
example, a few people have bailed recently from *this* environment, citing as 
their reason (paraphrasing) that it's Not Spiritual Enough For Them. They've 
gone forth into the cyberwilderness seeking an environment that they feel IS 
Spiritual Enough For Them, and a few of these noble seekers have settled upon 
The_Peak. There is something about that forum that tempts them to believe that 
it's spiritual, whereas this one is not. 

This fascinates me because when I scan the messages on The_Peak, I find it more 
than a little boring. Really. There is a *sameness* there, a lack of 
intellectual risk-taking, a "having settled" vibe that I just don't get the 
attraction of. I would characterize it as having the energy of stasis, as 
opposed to the energy of movement. Not spiritual at all. 

But that's possibly because I spent some time in the Rama trip, which did not 
have quite the same definitions of what constitutes a spiritual environment as 
the TMO did. We'd meditate to music on the dance floor in Techno clubs and in 
comfy seats in Carnegie Hall, and prefer the meds in the Techno clubs. We'd 
have formal dinners at Windows On The World, back when that restaurant still 
existed. We'd go out for "field trips" to the movies, to museums, to places of 
power, to Disneyland. For a warped few of us, at one point our definition of 
spending time in a spiritual environment meant living in the Red Light district 
of Amsterdam and teaching mediation for free there to thousands of people, just 
for the fun of it. Different strokes for different folks. 

So when I ponder what a spiritual environment might be, please understand that 
I approach that question from a far different perspective than many here might. 
Their idea of what a spiritual environment is might be based on their 
experience of TM centers, or TMO domes, or churches, or ashrams, or New Age 
Whatever. In terms of how people interact -- and "should" interact -- in such 
spiritual environments, they might feel that how one is "supposed" to act in 
such places is similar to how they're "supposed" to act in a church, or an 
ashram.  

Me, I think of spiritual environments as more of a dojo -- a place in which to 
study martial arts. Thus I think of the decorum one "should" bring to a 
spiritual environment as similar to that one brings to a dojo. But a good dojo. 
One that produces champions. 

Bad dojos produce bad martial artists. They allow the people who study or 
practice there to believe that they're better than they are. A good dojo never 
allows that to happen, because they know that's a short path to getting one's 
ass whupped in the real world. If your punch is feeble and ineffective, you 
*don't* want someone telling you it's powerful and that you rock, because it 
ISN'T, and you DON'T. Whether you are an instructor in such an environment or a 
student, it is your responsibility to ensure that no one is allowed to believe 
that they're better than they really ar

[FairfieldLife] Moderation in All Things

2015-02-10 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Seeing as how it was just four times a year, maybe the orgies were some sort of 
ayurvedic seasonal routine to balance the doshas.
Strauss-Kahn: Orgies were rare
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[FairfieldLife] Re: David Orme Johnson Experience

2015-02-10 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
What cynics you two are! I found his article rather sweet. It's good to see 
someone keeping the faith. 

 We're not ultimately in opposition: some have to explore altered states of 
consciousness while others have to remain grounded, keep their critical 
faculties intact and point out possible objections. From that interplay we 
advance into the future.
 

 Your cynicism may finally prove justified but at least he has a dream. Sadly, 
most dreamers turn out to be pipe dreamers. I'm hoping he turns out to be on to 
something. 
 

 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This should really be framed as an example of "What TM does to the mind." 

 

 After decades of practice, it's caused a Ph.D. to use 1,626 words to describe 
a phenomenon that could easily have been described in two ("placebo effect") or 
at most four ("monkey see, monkey do"). 

 

 I think his next study should be on the perils of unimportant people having 
been told for decades how important they are. 

 

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 7:34 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Orme Johnson Experience
 
 
   

 Wow, he actually had an experience! Prolly makes it all worthwhile for him.
 

 I guess there must be a paper on neurological seratonin correlations with 
subjective experiences on the way?
 

 


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Waves Below is one of my experiences... - David Orme-Johnson | Facebook 
https://www.facebook.com/david.ormejohnson/posts/1592664690967881 
 
 Waves Below is one of my experiences... - David Orme-Johnson | Facebook 
https://www.facebook.com/david.ormejohnson/posts/1592664690967881 Waves Below 
is one of my experiences from the Invincible America Assembly from last 
October. First, some definitions of the terms that may be...


 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Moderation in All Things

2015-02-10 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
What a sleaze-merchant. (Not you - Dominique Strauss-Kahn!) 

 Depressing to think he came damn close to becoming President of France. The 
whole sorry saga makes the Clinton-Lewinsky affair look like the storm in a 
teacup it always was.
 

 

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Seeing as how it was just four times a year, maybe the orgies were some sort 
of ayurvedic seasonal routine to balance the doshas.
 

Strauss-Kahn: Orgies were rare http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31318120  
  
 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31318120Dominique Strauss-Kahn
  
  
  
  
  
 Strauss-Kahn: Orgies were rare http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31318120 
Ex-IMF chief Dominique Strauss-Kahn, who denies pimping charges over sex 
parties, tells a French court he only took part in a few such evenings.


 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: At least there was a reason....

2015-02-10 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Funny, I would have thought that the idea of his corpse being embalmed and 
becoming an object of fascination might have appealed to Charlie. He was always 
on a death trip. 

 

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Your Subject line just nails it. Now it's finally understandable.  :-)
 

 And if I was him I would still be feeling flattered.
 

 

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 7:30 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] At least there was a reason
 
 
   
 Manson wedding off after it emerges that his fiance just wanted his corpse for 
display 
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/charles-manson-wedding-off-after-it-emerges-that-girlfriend-afton-elaine-burton-just-wanted-his-corpse-for-display-10034793.html

 
 
 
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/charles-manson-wedding-off-after-it-emerges-that-girlfriend-afton-elaine-burton-just-wanted-his-corpse-for-display-10034793.html
 
 Manson wedding off after it emerges that his fiance just... 
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/charles-manson-wedding-off-after-it-emerges-that-girlfriend-afton-elaine-burton-just-wanted-his-corpse-for-display-10034793.html
 Serial killer Charles Manson's supposed budding romance with a woman 53 years 
his junior has been allegedly exposed as a money-making scheme.


 
 View on www.independent.co.uk 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rise of the Machines..

2015-02-10 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Barry, 

 The planets are symbols, archetypes or metaphors to explain the different 
qualities of time and the relationship of the human being to the entire cosmos. 
 MMY calls them "impulses of intelligence".
 

 I believe these are the ancient way of explaining the holographic nature of 
the universe.  As such, everything can be considered as the fluctuation of 
information.  Therefore, one can read the times before, now and the future by 
knowing the relationships of the information as depicted by the movement of the 
planets in the sky.
 

 In short, even though it's based on knowledge of the ancients, the jyotish 
chart is an advanced model of time management using human consciousness that 
rivals the current theories in cosmology and physics.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 John believes that non-sentient planets out in space run his life, but he's 
terrified that vacuum cleaners are going to become sentient and kill him. Go 
figure. 

 

 As for the dangers posed by technology, as Xeno points out this is just 
another instance of a common problem:
 

 

 

 From: "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, February 9, 2015 11:34 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rise of the Machines..
 
 
   Look what happened when we became sentient. This is just dumb. These 
machines suck dust on the floor, so if you lie on the floor, if it is not one 
with laser guidance, it will either bump into you which clues it in to find 
another route and make a note it cannot go this way, or it will pick up stuff 
before it bumps into you, like hair spread on the floor. Some have sensors that 
tell it if it is at an edge like the top of a staircase, but those sensors 
don't see objects in front because they are looking down at the floor. Some 
units come with magnetic  or metal strips you place where you do not want it to 
go.
 

 If you don't want a robot, here is what you can do with a regular vacuum 
cleaner:
 The Vacuum Cleaner Accident http://youtu.be/D62Dd-FshYA 
 
 http://youtu.be/D62Dd-FshYA
 
 The Vacuum Cleaner Accident http://youtu.be/D62Dd-FshYA This is one of the 
most biggest accident happening in little town called Stockholm in Sweden. The 
man is doing some work with his vacuumcleaner and then he i...


 
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 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  

 


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This is just a small preview of what would happen if you let a machine do your 
own work without supervision.   Just imagine what would happen if these 
machines become sentient.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 South Korean woman's hair 'eaten' by robot vacuum cleaner as she slept 
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/09/south-korean-womans-hair-eaten-by-robot-vacuum-cleaner-as-she-slept

 
 
 
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/09/south-korean-womans-hair-eaten-by-robot-vacuum-cleaner-as-she-slept
 
 South Korean woman's hair 'eaten' by robot v... 
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/09/south-korean-womans-hair-eaten-by-robot-vacuum-cleaner-as-she-slept
 The woman was sleeping on the floor of her home when the robotic cleaner 
hoovered up her hair leaving her in agony


 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Just because they're losers doesn't mean someone else "won"

2015-02-10 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Re "I see that folks over on The_Leak must be bored with their lives again, 
because they're obsessing about FFL and about *ME* again.":
 

 Are you a member of any other Yahoo groups? And if so, have any of those other 
groups now split into two rival camps because of your robust input? 
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ah, I see that folks over on The_Leak must be bored with their lives again, 
because they're obsessing about FFL and about *ME* again.  :-)
 

 Ann (still pissed off because I rightly called her what she is a few times and 
did the same for the poseur she's still got a crush on decades after he dumped 
her) is leading the charge, claiming that this place (FFL) is now "run by" me 
and a few of my cronies. I think she's mistaking her and a few others running 
away from FFL with their tails between their legs (thus demonstrating that 
they're losers) for me being a "winner." :-)
 

As for Bimbo himself, he must have been contacted by the police because he's 
avoiding actual libel these days, but he's still claiming that he was justified 
in slinging his libel in the first place. And why? Because I used a throwaway 
phrase to make a point, but a point that he got all crazy about because the 
phrase was used in conjunction with someone he never met but whom he has placed 
upon a pedestal (MMY). Oh well...if that's how he wishes to demonstrate the 
non-attachment of the enlightened, so be it.  :-)
 

 Bottom line as I see it is that the ones who are over on The_Leak still 
whining about how they were "run off" from FFL are trying to make it seem as if 
I "won" something that was never a battle to be won in the first place. I 
merely did what I've always done -- spoke my mind in as colorful and 
entertaining a fashion as I could manage -- and they couldn't cope with that 
without getting all bent behind it. 

 

 In retrospect I think the thing they're still obsessing on me about and the 
thing that hurt them the most that they can't get over is that I never took any 
of them seriously. And they *NEED* to be taken seriously. Bimbo *NEEDS* it so 
desperately that he's created an entire forum dedicated to taking him 
seriously, populated primarily by others who he allows to stay *only as long as 
they continue to take him seriously*. 

 

 Whatever floats yer boat, I say. Anybody who actually respects that level of 
neediness is welcome to it. 

 

 As for any real comments on the nature of the group itself, all I have to say 
is that when I scan The_Leak once a week or so to make sure I don't have to 
report Bimbo to the cops again, the only posts I find there worth reading all 
the way through are those made by Anartaxius. His clarity stands out amongst 
all the dimwittedness like a spotlight hiding in a pile of Christmas tree 
bulbs. The only thing I find interesting so far about The_Leak is the question 
of how long it will be until Bimbo kicks Anartaxius off for doing what he 
cannot -- being interesting.  :-)
 

 






Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rick - Until the Vicious Negativity is removed - Goodbye

2015-02-10 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Jesus Christ, Barry, 

 I'm really not sure what you've written here, (past the first sentence, at 
least), but do you think it might be time to seek help.
 

 Doc: What can I do for you today, Mr. Wright?
 

 Barry: Well, you see Doc, I'm having this straw man argument withdrawal.  I do 
my best arguing when I can create a straw man, and really go at him.  You know, 
BAM, BAM, BAM. And I've been denied this opportunity, and it hurts Doc, it 
really... sniffle, sniffle hurts.
 

 Doc: I see.  When did this all come about?
 

 Barry: Well, it was several months ago, but it seems like an eternity.  Doc, 
can ya help me Doc? It's really getting serious.
 

 Doc: Now, now.  Settle down.  Let's see if we can work this out.  Do you have 
any hobbies?
 

 Barry: Sure Doc, I'm an experienced technical writer, and I can write one mean 
TV or film review.  I mean people even pay me money for my film reviews.
 

 Doc: Sure Barry, sure.  Why don't you take some time off and just focus on 
those endeavors that bring you more happiness.
 

 Barry: Okay, Doc.  I guess you're right.  But there's a guy Doc, a real mean 
guy, who claims he's enlightened, Doc.  It just bugs the hell out of me Doc.  I 
mean, it really bugs the hell out of me.
 

 Doc:  Sure, Barry.  We're out of time right now.  We'll talk about it next 
week.  Please be sure and drop your check for 100 euros with Debbie on the way 
out.
 

 Barry: Sure, Doc.  You're the best.  You're swell Doc.  Thanks a million.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 2:43 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rick - Until the Vicious Negativity is 
removed - Goodbye
 
 
   
 Well, I could provide content to FairfieldLife at yahoo-groups and participate 
more on FFL if Rick would do more to protect people on his FFL list from the 
endemic unkindness that has taken it over.







 Well, it may be "unkind" of me to point it out, but it seems to me that if the 
people who used to participate on this list but who stalked away from it in a 
snit *of their own making* and *voluntarily* ran off to create another forum 
had anything to say, they'd be here saying it. Instead -- like Buck -- the 
*only* thing they seem to do when they come here is whine about how persecuted 
they are. 

 

 Surely these wimps can't be TMers. Because as we all know TMers are  I N V I N 
C I B L E, and wouldn't run away whining like scared little puppies just 
because they weren't treated the way they wanted to be treated. Seems to me 
that if any of these folks actually *had something to say* BESIDES whining, 
they'd fit in better here, and enjoy it more. 

 

 I've invited Buck to actually  S A Y   S O M E T H I N G  other than whining 
and actually have an ongoing conversation with someone -- anyone -- here many 
times. And just as many times he's ignored it and continued to act like a whiny 
little bitch. So I can't say that I have much sympathy for his claims of either 
"unkindness" or his even more laughable claim that this place has been "taken 
over." 

 

 THE WHINY LITTLE BITCHES RAN AWAY.
 

 NO ONE FORCED THEM TO DO SO. 

 

 NO ONE "TOOK OVER" FAIRFIELD LIFE. 

 

 WE'RE JUST THE ONES WHO ARE STILL LEFT HERE AFTER THEY RAN AWAY, THAT'S ALL. 

 

 Buck's just whining because *he doesn't have what it takes* to interact with 
his fellow human beings on an equal basis, without being granted special 
privileges for being as "special" as he considers himself to be. If he *ever* 
interacted with *anyone* here as an equal, that would be a first. As it stands, 
I for one don't miss his whining and his preaching. And I for one really 
*can't* miss what it's like to interact with Doug Hamilton As A Person, because 
in the entire time I've known him at FFL he's *never* been able to get over his 
need to preach to people as if they were lesser than he is and act like a human 
being. 

 

 In other words, his drive-bys since he "left" have just been a replay of what 
he was like when he was "here." Nothing to see here folks, just keep driving. 

 

 OR, if you actually have something to say, stick around and say it. But don't 
expect anyone to feel sorry for you if you've established a many-year history 
of *never* being able to interact with people as if they were your equal, and 
then you whine about *them* being unkind. Treating pretty much everyone you 
meet as if they are less than you are is the most unkind thing I could imagine 
anyone doing, and sorry to say it, but that describes Doug Hamilton to a T.
 

 Look at what he chose as a Subject line. He's not even a participating 
*member* of FFL any more (and whining about it), but he still feels so  E N T I 
T L E D  that he feels he has the right to demand that Rick "remove" the people 
he doesn't like. Can you *say* "Entitled Elitism?" I think you can.
 

 I suggest that Rick *already* removed the negativity from Fairfi

[FairfieldLife] What are you reading?

2015-02-10 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 "Authorities have been forced to apologize after it emerged that police 
officers demanded the details of those buying copies of  Charlie Hebdo magazine 
from a newsagent." 

 Welcome to Scorpionland.
 

 http://tinyurl.com/ndeo6zk http://tinyurl.com/ndeo6zk

 

 



[FairfieldLife] What are you saying?

2015-02-10 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 Your Samsung TV might be listening! 
http://rt.com/uk/230699-samsung-tv-listens-privacy/ 
http://rt.com/uk/230699-samsung-tv-listens-privacy/

 



[FairfieldLife] Re: David Orme Johnson Experience

2015-02-10 Thread feste37
Wright and his little gang of clever and abusive cynics have pretty much killed 
this group off. The January post count was the lowest for eleven years—since 
February 2004. It is not a pleasant, respectful environment here, and any 
account by anyone of a spiritual experience is likely to meet the same 
contemptuous response by the resident know-it-alls. If Jesus Christ started 
posting here he would be dismissed as a charlatan. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 What cynics you two are! I found his article rather sweet. It's good to see 
someone keeping the faith. 

 We're not ultimately in opposition: some have to explore altered states of 
consciousness while others have to remain grounded, keep their critical 
faculties intact and point out possible objections. From that interplay we 
advance into the future.
 

 Your cynicism may finally prove justified but at least he has a dream. Sadly, 
most dreamers turn out to be pipe dreamers. I'm hoping he turns out to be on to 
something. 
 

 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This should really be framed as an example of "What TM does to the mind." 

 

 After decades of practice, it's caused a Ph.D. to use 1,626 words to describe 
a phenomenon that could easily have been described in two ("placebo effect") or 
at most four ("monkey see, monkey do"). 

 

 I think his next study should be on the perils of unimportant people having 
been told for decades how important they are. 

 

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 7:34 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Orme Johnson Experience
 
 
   

 Wow, he actually had an experience! Prolly makes it all worthwhile for him.
 

 I guess there must be a paper on neurological seratonin correlations with 
subjective experiences on the way?
 

 


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Waves Below is one of my experiences... - David Orme-Johnson | Facebook 
https://www.facebook.com/david.ormejohnson/posts/1592664690967881 
 
 Waves Below is one of my experiences... - David Orme-Johnson | Facebook 
https://www.facebook.com/david.ormejohnson/posts/1592664690967881 Waves Below 
is one of my experiences from the Invincible America Assembly from last 
October. First, some definitions of the terms that may be...


 
 View on www.facebook.com 
https://www.facebook.com/david.ormejohnson/posts/1592664690967881
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 





 


 















[FairfieldLife] Re: Moderation in All Things

2015-02-10 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Topless FEMEN protesters target former IMF director Strauss-Kahn at pimping 
trial.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8UOgBGewro 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8UOgBGewro



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Orme Johnson Experience

2015-02-10 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
We only dismiss the real charlatans - the real spiritual teachers here are 
always revered. Just that there aren't any here, that's all.

  From: feste37 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 7:58 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Orme Johnson Experience
   
    Wright and his little gang of clever and abusive cynics have pretty much 
killed this group off. The January post count was the lowest for eleven 
years—since February 2004. It is not a pleasant, respectful environment here, 
and any account by anyone of a spiritual experience is likely to meet the same 
contemptuous response by the resident know-it-alls. If Jesus Christ started 
posting here he would be dismissed as a charlatan. 




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

What cynics you two are! I found his article rather sweet. It's good to see 
someone keeping the faith.
We're not ultimately in opposition: some have to explore altered states of 
consciousness while others have to remain grounded, keep their critical 
faculties intact and point out possible objections. From that interplay we 
advance into the future.
Your cynicism may finally prove justified but at least he has a dream. Sadly, 
most dreamers turn out to be pipe dreamers. I'm hoping he turns out to be on to 
something. 




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

This should really be framed as an example of "What TM does to the mind." 

After decades of practice, it's caused a Ph.D. to use 1,626 words to describe a 
phenomenon that could easily have been described in two ("placebo effect") or 
at most four ("monkey see, monkey do"). 

I think his next study should be on the perils of unimportant people having 
been told for decades how important they are. 

  From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 7:34 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Orme Johnson Experience
 
 
Wow, he actually had an experience! Prolly makes it all worthwhile for him.
I guess there must be a paper on neurological seratonin correlations with 
subjective experiences on the way?




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Waves Below is one of my experiences... - David Orme-Johnson | Facebook
|  |
|  | Waves Below is one of my experiences... - David Orme-Johnson | 
Facebook Waves Below is one of my experiences from the Invincible America 
Assembly from last October. First, some definitions of the terms that may be... 
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| View on www.facebook.com|   Preview by Yahoo  |
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderation in All Things

2015-02-10 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Those gals must have come out of program too quickly. Such things can cause 
some roughness in activity you know.

  From: "s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 8:05 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderation in All Things
   
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[FairfieldLife] Re: What Constitutes a 'Spiritual Environment?'

2015-02-10 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
A spiritual environment?
 

 “Tis an ill wind that blows no minds” ― Malaclypse the Younger
  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 How would you define one?

I ask because recently some folks seem to feel (or at the very least act) as if 
they know fersure what a spiritual environment is, and what one is not. For 
example, a few people have bailed recently from *this* environment, citing as 
their reason (paraphrasing) that it's Not Spiritual Enough For Them. They've 
gone forth into the cyberwilderness seeking an environment that they feel IS 
Spiritual Enough For Them, and a few of these noble seekers have settled upon 
The_Peak. There is something about that forum that tempts them to believe that 
it's spiritual, whereas this one is not. 

This fascinates me because when I scan the messages on The_Peak, I find it more 
than a little boring. Really. There is a *sameness* there, a lack of 
intellectual risk-taking, a "having settled" vibe that I just don't get the 
attraction of. I would characterize it as having the energy of stasis, as 
opposed to the energy of movement. Not spiritual at all. 

But that's possibly because I spent some time in the Rama trip, which did not 
have quite the same definitions of what constitutes a spiritual environment as 
the TMO did. We'd meditate to music on the dance floor in Techno clubs and in 
comfy seats in Carnegie Hall, and prefer the meds in the Techno clubs. We'd 
have formal dinners at Windows On The World, back when that restaurant still 
existed. We'd go out for "field trips" to the movies, to museums, to places of 
power, to Disneyland. For a warped few of us, at one point our definition of 
spending time in a spiritual environment meant living in the Red Light district 
of Amsterdam and teaching mediation for free there to thousands of people, just 
for the fun of it. Different strokes for different folks. 

So when I ponder what a spiritual environment might be, please understand that 
I approach that question from a far different perspective than many here might. 
Their idea of what a spiritual environment is might be based on their 
experience of TM centers, or TMO domes, or churches, or ashrams, or New Age 
Whatever. In terms of how people interact -- and "should" interact -- in such 
spiritual environments, they might feel that how one is "supposed" to act in 
such places is similar to how they're "supposed" to act in a church, or an 
ashram.  

Me, I think of spiritual environments as more of a dojo -- a place in which to 
study martial arts. Thus I think of the decorum one "should" bring to a 
spiritual environment as similar to that one brings to a dojo. But a good dojo. 
One that produces champions. 

Bad dojos produce bad martial artists. They allow the people who study or 
practice there to believe that they're better than they are. A good dojo never 
allows that to happen, because they know that's a short path to getting one's 
ass whupped in the real world. If your punch is feeble and ineffective, you 
*don't* want someone telling you it's powerful and that you rock, because it 
ISN'T, and you DON'T. Whether you are an instructor in such an environment or a 
student, it is your responsibility to ensure that no one is allowed to believe 
that they're better than they really are. You owe it to them to tell them the 
truth, as you see it.

So the 'tude I most associate with a spiritual environment is a willingness to 
be told the truth about one's own progress. As opposed to a longing to be told 
how wonderful and skilled and advanced one is, when one...uh...isn't. 

What are the characteristics YOU most associate with the phrase "a spiritual 
environment?" I'm honestly curious.
 

 The other thing I'm curious about, if anyone wants to rap about it, is this.  
If you feel that you can only have what you consider spiritual experiences in 
environments that you consider spiritual, and that you *can't* have spiritual 
experiences in environments that you *don't* consider spiritual, doesn't that 
make you LESS spiritual than someone who can have spiritual experiences pretty 
much anywhere, anytime?  :-)

 

 






[FairfieldLife] Re: What are you saying?

2015-02-10 Thread ultrarishi
This is getting ridiculous with manufacturers harvesting the data trail we make 
through "ownership" now on a 24/7/365 basis.

It has gotten to the point where I am beginning to abandoned services (left 
facebook), not signing up for new services, avoiding smart appliances, and 
crippling "intelligent" devices I own or purchase.

Re: [FairfieldLife] What are you saying?

2015-02-10 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
This is actually old news which shows that sometimes the "conspiracy 
nuts" are right as they noticed this over 3 months ago.


On 02/10/2015 04:53 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:



  Your Samsung TV might be listening!

http://rt.com/uk/230699-samsung-tv-listens-privacy/







Re: [FairfieldLife] TV series mini-review: "Better Call Saul"

2015-02-10 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Of course I suspect that you didn't pay for either episode.  So you are 
suggesting you wouldn't have bought the season based on the first episode?


On 02/10/2015 12:57 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
*From:* "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 10, 2015 9:44 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] TV series mini-review: "Better Call Saul"

I'm going to watch the first episode on VUDU where it's free.  
Probably free on Amazon and elsewhere but VUDU has 9 mbps streams.  
Amazon's PQ sometimes sucks.


*/My review, such as it is, is based on the *two* first episodes, 
aired on successive nights this week. The first episode was good, but 
for me it really took the second for me to recognize the old Breaking 
Bad amazingnessitude. /*


On 02/10/2015 12:33 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com 
 [FairfieldLife] wrote:



*Scam Artist (being wheeled into the emergency room because of an 
insane drug boss Jimmy talked him into trying to shake down): /You're 
the worst lawyer ever./


Jimmy McGill (soon to be Saul Goodman): /Hey, I just talked you down 
from a death sentence to six months' probation -- I'm the best lawyer 
ever./

*
*/The "Breaking Bad" gang is back. Or at least a few of its regulars 
-- Vince Gilligan (series creator), Bob Odenkirk (Saul), and familiar 
characters like Mike Ermantraut and Tuco Salamanca -- are back, and 
it's a delight to see them again. Especially for me, because although 
I never lived in Albuquerque I did live in Santa Fe and know ugly-ass 
Albuquerque far too well. I recognize most of the neighborhoods, 
bars, and buildings they film in. Plus I really chuckle at seeing 
characters in the final credits with names like No-Doze and Gonzo and 
Snake Face and Breadstick Guy. It's all so familiar, in an odd sort 
of way.


The writing and direction is familiar, too, in the same odd sort of 
way. I won't say more, because if you watched "Breaking Bad" you're 
already watching this series. But for those who may have missed out 
on the comic brilliance of that series, "Better Call Saul" gives you 
a second chance, and I don't want to spoil it for you.


This is a really, really funny series. If you're a fan of dark humor, 
that is.


And Jimmy/Saul is right. As lawyers (only one step up evolutionarily 
from pond scum) go, he really is the best lawyer ever.



/*










[FairfieldLife] How to build a $700B company

2015-02-10 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Take a regular PC, get UNIX running on it, put a logo of an apple that 
has a bite taken out of it and convince people that they should pay far 
more for it than it is really worth.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What are you saying?

2015-02-10 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
I have Google Analytics on two web sites.  It's interesting what you can 
do with it and it's free because Google gets to aggregate that info 
two.  But the data is anonymous the most refined individual data you get 
is what city a user is from and at that you don't know particularly who 
the user is.  There's a whole bunch of stuff that I haven't implemented 
but that's more for marketing jocks.


On 02/10/2015 05:59 PM, ultrarishi wrote:


This is getting ridiculous with manufacturers harvesting the data 
trail we make through "ownership" now on a 24/7/365 basis.


It has gotten to the point where I am beginning to abandoned services 
(left facebook), not signing up for new services, avoiding smart 
appliances, and crippling "intelligent" devices I own or purchase.







[FairfieldLife] Last rites

2015-02-10 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
One of my favourite writers has always been Robert Anton Wilson (RAW). He wrote 
some sci-fi/fantasy, of which the best known is probably the Illuminatus! 
Trilogy. I've given his fiction a miss as I have a limited attraction to sci-fi 
but his non-fiction books like Sex, Drugs and Magick and the Cosmic Trigger 
trilogy are entertaining, witty and passionate defences of his libertarian, 
anarchist and esoteric take on life. He was influenced by such fringe prophets 
as The Beast (Aleister Crowley) and the crackpot psychoanalyst Wilhelm Reich. 
And he was a friend and defender of Tim Leary. 
 

 One feature of Wilson's writing was always a heartfelt hostility towards 
Christianity - especially Catholicism, the faith he was indoctrinated in as a 
child. Now, I'm not a Catholic but even I thought that sometimes his attacks on 
that denomination were a bit over the top. Whatever.
 

 Anyway, death comes to us all and for Wilson the year 2007 was his last. I was 
intrigued therefore to hear him saying in those last months that what absorbed 
him more than any other rumination at that critical period was the thought that 
if he'd hurt anyone during his lifetime he hoped that they could forgive him. 
When I heard that I immediately thought: Bejesus! if someone were to challenge 
me to encapsulate the essence of Christianity in a sentence then I reckon that 
saying "a Christian would be someone who at his life's close hoped that anyone 
he'd ever hurt could find it in themselves to forgive him" is as good a try as 
any. That's the true Last Judgement.
 

 The last moments of a person's life have always been considered of particular 
importance in most religious traditions and no doubt the Last Sacrament in 
Catholicism is a more-or-less inadequate attempt to capture something of what 
Wilson was expressing. The caricature that is our stereotype of such situations 
is of a fearful man or woman on their deathbed wracked with fear and shame at a 
life's wasted opportunities and guilt over shabby deeds done -  in other words, 
someone wrapped up in their own selfhood. That has to be a most un-religious 
state! What I liked about RAW's quote is that he wasn't being morbid but was 
looking outwards *towards others* he may have distressed. 
 

 Rather touching (and *not* in a sentimental sense). And it reminds me of a 
thought I've often entertained: Christianity is *not really* about whether you 
believe in God, the Trinity, the Virgin Birth, . . . , but is actually about "a 
way of life" - love, mercy, pity - and the traditional dogmas are just window 
dressing (essentially trying to say in the language of myth what is 
inexpressible in literal speech). 
 

 It's not that I want to paint RAW as having had a "deathbed conversion" - he 
didn't need one! An agnostic like Wilson was closer to the message of Jesus 
than any confirmed Christian who also happens to be a prig and really believes 
that sinners are destined to eternal Hell.  
 

 

  


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What are you saying?

2015-02-10 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]
Yes, we have Google Analytics and we use it on our hosted server.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I have Google Analytics on two web sites.  It's interesting what you can do 
with it and it's free because Google gets to aggregate that info two.  But the 
data is anonymous the most refined individual data you get is what city a user 
is from and at that you don't know particularly who the user is.  There's a 
whole bunch of stuff that I haven't implemented but that's more for marketing 
jocks.
 
 On 02/10/2015 05:59 PM, ultrarishi wrote:
 
   This is getting ridiculous with manufacturers harvesting the data trail we 
make through "ownership" now on a 24/7/365 basis.
 
 It has gotten to the point where I am beginning to abandoned services (left 
facebook), not signing up for new services, avoiding smart appliances, and 
crippling "intelligent" devices I own or purchase.

 




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rick - Until the Vicious Negativity is removed - Goodbye

2015-02-10 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Jesus Christ, Barry, 

 I'm really not sure what you've written here, (past the first sentence, at 
least), but do you think it might be time to seek help.

He's not even making sense anymore, Steve - it looks like he's gone over the 
top. He just can't seem to get over Judy leaving and then Ann and the others 
just up and left him to push buttons all by himself, Obviously he is lonely and 
getting desperate for some attention. It probably gets lonely being an expat 
that everyone hates to have around so he spends a lot of time on FFL. Thanks 
for trying to help him. 

"Shit happening is *fun* when I do it. Shit returning to me is *not* fun. Other 
people don't know how to have fun the way I do, because if they did, then they 
would have "fun" with me dumping my shit on *them*, instead of sending it back 
to *me* again." - authfriend

 

 Doc: What can I do for you today, Mr. Wright?
 

 Barry: Well, you see Doc, I'm having this straw man argument withdrawal.  I do 
my best arguing when I can create a straw man, and really go at him.  You know, 
BAM, BAM, BAM. And I've been denied this opportunity, and it hurts Doc, it 
really... sniffle, sniffle hurts.
 

 Doc: I see.  When did this all come about?
 

 Barry: Well, it was several months ago, but it seems like an eternity.  Doc, 
can ya help me Doc? It's really getting serious.
 

 Doc: Now, now.  Settle down.  Let's see if we can work this out.  Do you have 
any hobbies?
 

 Barry: Sure Doc, I'm an experienced technical writer, and I can write one mean 
TV or film review.  I mean people even pay me money for my film reviews.
 

 Doc: Sure Barry, sure.  Why don't you take some time off and just focus on 
those endeavors that bring you more happiness.
 

 Barry: Okay, Doc.  I guess you're right.  But there's a guy Doc, a real mean 
guy, who claims he's enlightened, Doc.  It just bugs the hell out of me Doc.  I 
mean, it really bugs the hell out of me.
 

 Doc:  Sure, Barry.  We're out of time right now.  We'll talk about it next 
week.  Please be sure and drop your check for 100 euros with Debbie on the way 
out.
 

 Barry: Sure, Doc.  You're the best.  You're swell Doc.  Thanks a million.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 2:43 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rick - Until the Vicious Negativity is 
removed - Goodbye
 
 
   
 Well, I could provide content to FairfieldLife at yahoo-groups and participate 
more on FFL if Rick would do more to protect people on his FFL list from the 
endemic unkindness that has taken it over.







 Well, it may be "unkind" of me to point it out, but it seems to me that if the 
people who used to participate on this list but who stalked away from it in a 
snit *of their own making* and *voluntarily* ran off to create another forum 
had anything to say, they'd be here saying it. Instead -- like Buck -- the 
*only* thing they seem to do when they come here is whine about how persecuted 
they are. 

 

 Surely these wimps can't be TMers. Because as we all know TMers are  I N V I N 
C I B L E, and wouldn't run away whining like scared little puppies just 
because they weren't treated the way they wanted to be treated. Seems to me 
that if any of these folks actually *had something to say* BESIDES whining, 
they'd fit in better here, and enjoy it more. 

 

 I've invited Buck to actually  S A Y   S O M E T H I N G  other than whining 
and actually have an ongoing conversation with someone -- anyone -- here many 
times. And just as many times he's ignored it and continued to act like a whiny 
little bitch. So I can't say that I have much sympathy for his claims of either 
"unkindness" or his even more laughable claim that this place has been "taken 
over." 

 

 THE WHINY LITTLE BITCHES RAN AWAY.
 

 NO ONE FORCED THEM TO DO SO. 

 

 NO ONE "TOOK OVER" FAIRFIELD LIFE. 

 

 WE'RE JUST THE ONES WHO ARE STILL LEFT HERE AFTER THEY RAN AWAY, THAT'S ALL. 

 

 Buck's just whining because *he doesn't have what it takes* to interact with 
his fellow human beings on an equal basis, without being granted special 
privileges for being as "special" as he considers himself to be. If he *ever* 
interacted with *anyone* here as an equal, that would be a first. As it stands, 
I for one don't miss his whining and his preaching. And I for one really 
*can't* miss what it's like to interact with Doug Hamilton As A Person, because 
in the entire time I've known him at FFL he's *never* been able to get over his 
need to preach to people as if they were lesser than he is and act like a human 
being. 

 

 In other words, his drive-bys since he "left" have just been a replay of what 
he was like when he was "here." Nothing to see here folks, just keep driving. 

 

 OR, if you actually have something to say, stick around and say it. But don't 
expect anyone to feel 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just because they're losers doesn't mean someone else "won"

2015-02-10 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Re "I see that folks over on The_Leak must be bored with their lives again, 
because they're obsessing about FFL and about *ME* again.":
 

 Are you a member of any other Yahoo groups? And if so, have any of those other 
groups now split into two rival camps because of your robust input? 

He used to be on the Google Group alt.buddha.short.fat.guy but he got kicked 
off for being a poser. Everyone over there knows that the Zen Master Rama was a 
phoney. He once got his ass kicked real bad by Kater on alt.religion.gnostic 
because he claimed to have read over 200 books on the Cathars, but not a single 
book on the Gnostics.

Everyone knows that the Cathars are derived from Bogumils; Bogomils are derived 
from Paulicans; Paulicans from Manicheans; Manicheans from Gnostics. Thus the 
Cathars are derived from Gnostics.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ah, I see that folks over on The_Leak must be bored with their lives again, 
because they're obsessing about FFL and about *ME* again.  :-)
 

 Ann (still pissed off because I rightly called her what she is a few times and 
did the same for the poseur she's still got a crush on decades after he dumped 
her) is leading the charge, claiming that this place (FFL) is now "run by" me 
and a few of my cronies. I think she's mistaking her and a few others running 
away from FFL with their tails between their legs (thus demonstrating that 
they're losers) for me being a "winner." :-)
 

As for Bimbo himself, he must have been contacted by the police because he's 
avoiding actual libel these days, but he's still claiming that he was justified 
in slinging his libel in the first place. And why? Because I used a throwaway 
phrase to make a point, but a point that he got all crazy about because the 
phrase was used in conjunction with someone he never met but whom he has placed 
upon a pedestal (MMY). Oh well...if that's how he wishes to demonstrate the 
non-attachment of the enlightened, so be it.  :-)
 

 Bottom line as I see it is that the ones who are over on The_Leak still 
whining about how they were "run off" from FFL are trying to make it seem as if 
I "won" something that was never a battle to be won in the first place. I 
merely did what I've always done -- spoke my mind in as colorful and 
entertaining a fashion as I could manage -- and they couldn't cope with that 
without getting all bent behind it. 

 

 In retrospect I think the thing they're still obsessing on me about and the 
thing that hurt them the most that they can't get over is that I never took any 
of them seriously. And they *NEED* to be taken seriously. Bimbo *NEEDS* it so 
desperately that he's created an entire forum dedicated to taking him 
seriously, populated primarily by others who he allows to stay *only as long as 
they continue to take him seriously*. 

 

 Whatever floats yer boat, I say. Anybody who actually respects that level of 
neediness is welcome to it. 

 

 As for any real comments on the nature of the group itself, all I have to say 
is that when I scan The_Leak once a week or so to make sure I don't have to 
report Bimbo to the cops again, the only posts I find there worth reading all 
the way through are those made by Anartaxius. His clarity stands out amongst 
all the dimwittedness like a spotlight hiding in a pile of Christmas tree 
bulbs. The only thing I find interesting so far about The_Leak is the question 
of how long it will be until Bimbo kicks Anartaxius off for doing what he 
cannot -- being interesting.  :-)
 

 








Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rick - Until the Vicious Negativity is removed - Goodbye

2015-02-10 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Sad, but true.  And a very apt analysis by Judy. 

 
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 .He's not even making sense anymore, Steve - it looks like he's gone over the 
top. He just can't seem to get over Judy leaving and then Ann and the others 
just up and left him to push buttons all by himself, Obviously he is lonely and 
getting desperate for some attention. It probably gets lonely being an expat 
that everyone hates to have around so he spends a lot of time on FFL. Thanks 
for trying to help him. 

"Shit happening is *fun* when I do it. Shit returning to me is *not* fun. Other 
people don't know how to have fun the way I do, because if they did, then they 
would have "fun" with me dumping my shit on *them*, instead of sending it back 
to *me* again." - authfriend

 

 Doc: What can I do for you today, Mr. Wright?
 

 Barry: Well, you see Doc, I'm having this straw man argument withdrawal.  I do 
my best arguing when I can create a straw man, and really go at him.  You know, 
BAM, BAM, BAM. And I've been denied this opportunity, and it hurts Doc, it 
really... sniffle, sniffle hurts.
 

 Doc: I see.  When did this all come about?
 

 Barry: Well, it was several months ago, but it seems like an eternity.  Doc, 
can ya help me Doc? It's really getting serious.
 

 Doc: Now, now.  Settle down.  Let's see if we can work this out.  Do you have 
any hobbies?
 

 Barry: Sure Doc, I'm an experienced technical writer, and I can write one mean 
TV or film review.  I mean people even pay me money for my film reviews.
 

 Doc: Sure Barry, sure.  Why don't you take some time off and just focus on 
those endeavors that bring you more happiness.
 

 Barry: Okay, Doc.  I guess you're right.  But there's a guy Doc, a real mean 
guy, who claims he's enlightened, Doc.  It just bugs the hell out of me Doc.  I 
mean, it really bugs the hell out of me.
 

 Doc:  Sure, Barry.  We're out of time right now.  We'll talk about it next 
week.  Please be sure and drop your check for 100 euros with Debbie on the way 
out.
 

 Barry: Sure, Doc.  You're the best.  You're swell Doc.  Thanks a million.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 2:43 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rick - Until the Vicious Negativity is 
removed - Goodbye
 
 
   
 Well, I could provide content to FairfieldLife at yahoo-groups and participate 
more on FFL if Rick would do more to protect people on his FFL list from the 
endemic unkindness that has taken it over.







 Well, it may be "unkind" of me to point it out, but it seems to me that if the 
people who used to participate on this list but who stalked away from it in a 
snit *of their own making* and *voluntarily* ran off to create another forum 
had anything to say, they'd be here saying it. Instead -- like Buck -- the 
*only* thing they seem to do when they come here is whine about how persecuted 
they are. 

 

 Surely these wimps can't be TMers. Because as we all know TMers are  I N V I N 
C I B L E, and wouldn't run away whining like scared little puppies just 
because they weren't treated the way they wanted to be treated. Seems to me 
that if any of these folks actually *had something to say* BESIDES whining, 
they'd fit in better here, and enjoy it more. 

 

 I've invited Buck to actually  S A Y   S O M E T H I N G  other than whining 
and actually have an ongoing conversation with someone -- anyone -- here many 
times. And just as many times he's ignored it and continued to act like a whiny 
little bitch. So I can't say that I have much sympathy for his claims of either 
"unkindness" or his even more laughable claim that this place has been "taken 
over." 

 

 THE WHINY LITTLE BITCHES RAN AWAY.
 

 NO ONE FORCED THEM TO DO SO. 

 

 NO ONE "TOOK OVER" FAIRFIELD LIFE. 

 

 WE'RE JUST THE ONES WHO ARE STILL LEFT HERE AFTER THEY RAN AWAY, THAT'S ALL. 

 

 Buck's just whining because *he doesn't have what it takes* to interact with 
his fellow human beings on an equal basis, without being granted special 
privileges for being as "special" as he considers himself to be. If he *ever* 
interacted with *anyone* here as an equal, that would be a first. As it stands, 
I for one don't miss his whining and his preaching. And I for one really 
*can't* miss what it's like to interact with Doug Hamilton As A Person, because 
in the entire time I've known him at FFL he's *never* been able to get over his 
need to preach to people as if they were lesser than he is and act like a human 
being. 

 

 In other words, his drive-bys since he "left" have just been a replay of what 
he was like when he was "here." Nothing to see here folks, just keep driving. 

 

 OR, if you actually have something to say, stick around and say it. But don't 
expect anyone to feel sorry for you if you've established a many-year history 
of *never* being able to interact with people as

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just because they're losers doesn't mean someone else "won"

2015-02-10 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Well, it is undeniable that his writing has, for the most part, been reduced to 
diatribes against the_peak. 

 I mean, is that hilarious or what?
 

 No Cathars, no Scifi, just daily assaults against Jim Flannigan and members 
who post on the other forum.
 

 Yikes!
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Re "I see that folks over on The_Leak must be bored with their lives again, 
because they're obsessing about FFL and about *ME* again.":
 

 Are you a member of any other Yahoo groups? And if so, have any of those other 
groups now split into two rival camps because of your robust input? 

He used to be on the Google Group alt.buddha.short.fat.guy but he got kicked 
off for being a poser. Everyone over there knows that the Zen Master Rama was a 
phoney. He once got his ass kicked real bad by Kater on alt.religion.gnostic 
because he claimed to have read over 200 books on the Cathars, but not a single 
book on the Gnostics.

Everyone knows that the Cathars are derived from Bogumils; Bogomils are derived 
from Paulicans; Paulicans from Manicheans; Manicheans from Gnostics. Thus the 
Cathars are derived from Gnostics.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ah, I see that folks over on The_Leak must be bored with their lives again, 
because they're obsessing about FFL and about *ME* again.  :-)
 

 Ann (still pissed off because I rightly called her what she is a few times and 
did the same for the poseur she's still got a crush on decades after he dumped 
her) is leading the charge, claiming that this place (FFL) is now "run by" me 
and a few of my cronies. I think she's mistaking her and a few others running 
away from FFL with their tails between their legs (thus demonstrating that 
they're losers) for me being a "winner." :-)
 

As for Bimbo himself, he must have been contacted by the police because he's 
avoiding actual libel these days, but he's still claiming that he was justified 
in slinging his libel in the first place. And why? Because I used a throwaway 
phrase to make a point, but a point that he got all crazy about because the 
phrase was used in conjunction with someone he never met but whom he has placed 
upon a pedestal (MMY). Oh well...if that's how he wishes to demonstrate the 
non-attachment of the enlightened, so be it.  :-)
 

 Bottom line as I see it is that the ones who are over on The_Leak still 
whining about how they were "run off" from FFL are trying to make it seem as if 
I "won" something that was never a battle to be won in the first place. I 
merely did what I've always done -- spoke my mind in as colorful and 
entertaining a fashion as I could manage -- and they couldn't cope with that 
without getting all bent behind it. 

 

 In retrospect I think the thing they're still obsessing on me about and the 
thing that hurt them the most that they can't get over is that I never took any 
of them seriously. And they *NEED* to be taken seriously. Bimbo *NEEDS* it so 
desperately that he's created an entire forum dedicated to taking him 
seriously, populated primarily by others who he allows to stay *only as long as 
they continue to take him seriously*. 

 

 Whatever floats yer boat, I say. Anybody who actually respects that level of 
neediness is welcome to it. 

 

 As for any real comments on the nature of the group itself, all I have to say 
is that when I scan The_Leak once a week or so to make sure I don't have to 
report Bimbo to the cops again, the only posts I find there worth reading all 
the way through are those made by Anartaxius. His clarity stands out amongst 
all the dimwittedness like a spotlight hiding in a pile of Christmas tree 
bulbs. The only thing I find interesting so far about The_Leak is the question 
of how long it will be until Bimbo kicks Anartaxius off for doing what he 
cannot -- being interesting.  :-)
 

 











Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rick - Until the Vicious Negativity is removed - Goodbye

2015-02-10 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Goodness Steve, this was hilarious.   

 Barry, get a grip.  You are sounding more and more insane; let go and move on. 
Have you determined how you'd like your 7th decade to go?  This is it, Barry, 
your one life that you'll be aware of.  Time to grow up, buddy.  It's over.  
Those you love to hate ain't comin' back.  Do you really want to waste valuable 
time engaged in this kind of communication?  In all caps now - crazier and 
crazier, Barry.  Just an objective observation.  Don't care and won't read what 
you reply with, if anything.  Just checked in to see how the mental health here 
is holding up and congratulate Steve on how enlightened he's sounding.   
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Sad, but true.  And a very apt analysis by Judy. 

 
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 .He's not even making sense anymore, Steve - it looks like he's gone over the 
top. He just can't seem to get over Judy leaving and then Ann and the others 
just up and left him to push buttons all by himself, Obviously he is lonely and 
getting desperate for some attention. It probably gets lonely being an expat 
that everyone hates to have around so he spends a lot of time on FFL. Thanks 
for trying to help him. 

"Shit happening is *fun* when I do it. Shit returning to me is *not* fun. Other 
people don't know how to have fun the way I do, because if they did, then they 
would have "fun" with me dumping my shit on *them*, instead of sending it back 
to *me* again." - authfriend

 

 Doc: What can I do for you today, Mr. Wright?
 

 Barry: Well, you see Doc, I'm having this straw man argument withdrawal.  I do 
my best arguing when I can create a straw man, and really go at him.  You know, 
BAM, BAM, BAM. And I've been denied this opportunity, and it hurts Doc, it 
really... sniffle, sniffle hurts.
 

 Doc: I see.  When did this all come about?
 

 Barry: Well, it was several months ago, but it seems like an eternity.  Doc, 
can ya help me Doc? It's really getting serious.
 

 Doc: Now, now.  Settle down.  Let's see if we can work this out.  Do you have 
any hobbies?
 

 Barry: Sure Doc, I'm an experienced technical writer, and I can write one mean 
TV or film review.  I mean people even pay me money for my film reviews.
 

 Doc: Sure Barry, sure.  Why don't you take some time off and just focus on 
those endeavors that bring you more happiness.
 

 Barry: Okay, Doc.  I guess you're right.  But there's a guy Doc, a real mean 
guy, who claims he's enlightened, Doc.  It just bugs the hell out of me Doc.  I 
mean, it really bugs the hell out of me.
 

 Doc:  Sure, Barry.  We're out of time right now.  We'll talk about it next 
week.  Please be sure and drop your check for 100 euros with Debbie on the way 
out.
 

 Barry: Sure, Doc.  You're the best.  You're swell Doc.  Thanks a million.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 2:43 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rick - Until the Vicious Negativity is 
removed - Goodbye
 
 
   
 Well, I could provide content to FairfieldLife at yahoo-groups and participate 
more on FFL if Rick would do more to protect people on his FFL list from the 
endemic unkindness that has taken it over.







 Well, it may be "unkind" of me to point it out, but it seems to me that if the 
people who used to participate on this list but who stalked away from it in a 
snit *of their own making* and *voluntarily* ran off to create another forum 
had anything to say, they'd be here saying it. Instead -- like Buck -- the 
*only* thing they seem to do when they come here is whine about how persecuted 
they are. 

 

 Surely these wimps can't be TMers. Because as we all know TMers are  I N V I N 
C I B L E, and wouldn't run away whining like scared little puppies just 
because they weren't treated the way they wanted to be treated. Seems to me 
that if any of these folks actually *had something to say* BESIDES whining, 
they'd fit in better here, and enjoy it more. 

 

 I've invited Buck to actually  S A Y   S O M E T H I N G  other than whining 
and actually have an ongoing conversation with someone -- anyone -- here many 
times. And just as many times he's ignored it and continued to act like a whiny 
little bitch. So I can't say that I have much sympathy for his claims of either 
"unkindness" or his even more laughable claim that this place has been "taken 
over." 

 

 THE WHINY LITTLE BITCHES RAN AWAY.
 

 NO ONE FORCED THEM TO DO SO. 

 

 NO ONE "TOOK OVER" FAIRFIELD LIFE. 

 

 WE'RE JUST THE ONES WHO ARE STILL LEFT HERE AFTER THEY RAN AWAY, THAT'S ALL. 

 

 Buck's just whining because *he doesn't have what it takes* to interact with 
his fellow human beings on an equal basis, without being granted special 
privileges for being as "special" as he considers himself to be. If he *ever* 
interacted with *anyone* here as an equal, that would be a fi

Re: [FairfieldLife] As it was

2015-02-10 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
That's what I've been saying all along.

No creation, no creator.

  From: "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife  
 Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 11:01 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] As it was
   
    As it was in the beginning,It now and ever shall be, 
World without end, Amen, Amen!
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Re: [FairfieldLife] What are you saying?

2015-02-10 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
This was the subject of some paranoid teeth-gnashing on another forum, which 
made me kinda laugh and ask what made the people worried about being overheard 
by their own TV think THEY were important enough that anyone wanted to hear 
what they said. No answer.  :-)
  From: "s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 1:53 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] What are you saying?
   
    
Your Samsung TV might be listening!
http://rt.com/uk/230699-samsung-tv-listens-privacy/

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What Constitutes a 'Spiritual Environment?'

2015-02-10 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
"Remember...no matter where you go...there you are."  - Buckaroo Banzai

  From: "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 11:42 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What Constitutes a 'Spiritual Environment?' [2 
Attachments]
   
    [Attachment(s) from anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] included below] I 
really do not define it. One could metaphorically say it follows me around, so 
it is not necessary to look for it. I do like quiet most of the time. At the 
moment there is a somewhat messy desk, with a computer, speakers (because I am 
listening to music), some rechargeable batteries and a charger, a backup hard 
drive, various pieces of paper including bills, a cell phone charger, a printer 
and other pieces of equipment. I am trying to put off working on something 
necessary. 
I am listening to a piece by Mozart, written in 1774 when he was 18 for 
ceremonies at the University of Salzburg. I was curious how he handled the 
orchestration of the end of a particular movement. That section and the score 
are attached to this post. [To sound properly you need good speakers or 
headphones that have good, natural, but not exaggerated bass, and play it 
loud.] It is an example how you can create the impression of a lot of power 
with just mostly repeated notes and mostly a single chord. The last six 
measures are a single D-major chord with just variations in which instruments 
are playing. Any great composer in any genre of music has the ability to spin a 
web of sound that often seems far more complex than it is. It's magical in part 
because we do not know how they did it.
The same goes for spirituality. It seems a lot is happening, and it seems there 
are all these details one must somehow master, but really it is all mostly 
nothing at all. If you cannot find a spiritual environment where you are now, 
you will never find one at all. If I am on The Peak, that is my spiritual 
environment; if I am on FFL, that is my spiritual environment. If I am on the 
pot, that too is my spiritual environment (and one that offers a lot of relief, 
at my age).




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

How would you define one?

I ask because recently some folks seem to feel (or at the very least act) as if 
they know fersure what a spiritual environment is, and what one is not. For 
example, a few people have bailed recently from *this* environment, citing as 
their reason (paraphrasing) that it's Not Spiritual Enough For Them. They've 
gone forth into the cyberwilderness seeking an environment that they feel IS 
Spiritual Enough For Them, and a few of these noble seekers have settled upon 
The_Peak. There is something about that forum that tempts them to believe that 
it's spiritual, whereas this one is not. 

This fascinates me because when I scan the messages on The_Peak, I find it more 
than a little boring. Really. There is a *sameness* there, a lack of 
intellectual risk-taking, a "having settled" vibe that I just don't get the 
attraction of. I would characterize it as having the energy of stasis, as 
opposed to the energy of movement. Not spiritual at all. 

But that's possibly because I spent some time in the Rama trip, which did not 
have quite the same definitions of what constitutes a spiritual environment as 
the TMO did. We'd meditate to music on the dance floor in Techno clubs and in 
comfy seats in Carnegie Hall, and prefer the meds in the Techno clubs. We'd 
have formal dinners at Windows On The World, back when that restaurant still 
existed. We'd go out for "field trips" to the movies, to museums, to places of 
power, to Disneyland. For a warped few of us, at one point our definition of 
spending time in a spiritual environment meant living in the Red Light district 
of Amsterdam and teaching mediation for free there to thousands of people, just 
for the fun of it. Different strokes for different folks. 

So when I ponder what a spiritual environment might be, please understand that 
I approach that question from a far different perspective than many here might. 
Their idea of what a spiritual environment is might be based on their 
experience of TM centers, or TMO domes, or churches, or ashrams, or New Age 
Whatever. In terms of how people interact -- and "should" interact -- in such 
spiritual environments, they might feel that how one is "supposed" to act in 
such places is similar to how they're "supposed" to act in a church, or an 
ashram.  

Me, I think of spiritual environments as more of a dojo -- a place in which to 
study martial arts. Thus I think of the decorum one "should" bring to a 
spiritual environment as similar to that one brings to a dojo. But a good dojo. 
One that produces champions. 

Bad dojos produce bad martial artists. They allow the people who study or 
practice there to believe that they're better than they are. A good dojo never 
allows that to happen, because they know that's a short path t

Re: [FairfieldLife] Last rites

2015-02-10 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
The notion of spending my last moments concerned what others thought of me and 
hoping for them to forgive me doesn't appeal to me. What I hope for at the 
moment of death is a sense of expectation and looking forward to what comes 
next. That strikes me as a worthy way to "sum up a life." 
  From: "s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 4:02 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Last rites
   
    One of my favourite writers has always been Robert Anton Wilson (RAW). He 
wrote some sci-fi/fantasy, of which the best known is probably the Illuminatus! 
Trilogy. I've given his fiction a miss as I have a limited attraction to sci-fi 
but his non-fiction books like Sex, Drugs and Magick and the Cosmic Trigger 
trilogy are entertaining, witty and passionate defences of his libertarian, 
anarchist and esoteric take on life. He was influenced by such fringe prophets 
as The Beast (Aleister Crowley) and the crackpot psychoanalyst Wilhelm Reich. 
And he was a friend and defender of Tim Leary. 
One feature of Wilson's writing was always a heartfelt hostility towards 
Christianity - especially Catholicism, the faith he was indoctrinated in as a 
child. Now, I'm not a Catholic but even I thought that sometimes his attacks on 
that denomination were a bit over the top. Whatever.
Anyway, death comes to us all and for Wilson the year 2007 was his last. I was 
intrigued therefore to hear him saying in those last months that what absorbed 
him more than any other rumination at that critical period was the thought that 
if he'd hurt anyone during his lifetime he hoped that they could forgive him. 
When I heard that I immediately thought: Bejesus! if someone were to challenge 
me to encapsulate the essence of Christianity in a sentence then I reckon that 
saying "a Christian would be someone who at his life's close hoped that anyone 
he'd ever hurt could find it in themselves to forgive him" is as good a try as 
any. That's the true Last Judgement.
The last moments of a person's life have always been considered of particular 
importance in most religious traditions and no doubt the Last Sacrament in 
Catholicism is a more-or-less inadequate attempt to capture something of what 
Wilson was expressing. The caricature that is our stereotype of such situations 
is of a fearful man or woman on their deathbed wracked with fear and shame at a 
life's wasted opportunities and guilt over shabby deeds done -  in other words, 
someone wrapped up in their own selfhood. That has to be a most un-religious 
state! What I liked about RAW's quote is that he wasn't being morbid but was 
looking outwards *towards others* he may have distressed. 
Rather touching (and *not* in a sentimental sense). And it reminds me of a 
thought I've often entertained: Christianity is *not really* about whether you 
believe in God, the Trinity, the Virgin Birth, . . . , but is actually about "a 
way of life" - love, mercy, pity - and the traditional dogmas are just window 
dressing (essentially trying to say in the language of myth what is 
inexpressible in literal speech). 
It's not that I want to paint RAW as having had a "deathbed conversion" - he 
didn't need one! An agnostic like Wilson was closer to the message of Jesus 
than any confirmed Christian who also happens to be a prig and really believes 
that sinners are destined to eternal Hell.  

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rick - Until the Vicious Negativity is removed - Goodbye

2015-02-10 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I mean 70th decade, not 7thor maybe I do mean that (smile).
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Goodness Steve, this was hilarious.   

 Barry, get a grip.  You are sounding more and more insane; let go and move on. 
Have you determined how you'd like your 7th decade to go?  This is it, Barry, 
your one life that you'll be aware of.  Time to grow up, buddy.  It's over.  
Those you love to hate ain't comin' back.  Do you really want to waste valuable 
time engaged in this kind of communication?  In all caps now - crazier and 
crazier, Barry.  Just an objective observation.  Don't care and won't read what 
you reply with, if anything.  Just checked in to see how the mental health here 
is holding up and congratulate Steve on how enlightened he's sounding.   
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Sad, but true.  And a very apt analysis by Judy. 

 
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 .He's not even making sense anymore, Steve - it looks like he's gone over the 
top. He just can't seem to get over Judy leaving and then Ann and the others 
just up and left him to push buttons all by himself, Obviously he is lonely and 
getting desperate for some attention. It probably gets lonely being an expat 
that everyone hates to have around so he spends a lot of time on FFL. Thanks 
for trying to help him. 

"Shit happening is *fun* when I do it. Shit returning to me is *not* fun. Other 
people don't know how to have fun the way I do, because if they did, then they 
would have "fun" with me dumping my shit on *them*, instead of sending it back 
to *me* again." - authfriend

 

 Doc: What can I do for you today, Mr. Wright?
 

 Barry: Well, you see Doc, I'm having this straw man argument withdrawal.  I do 
my best arguing when I can create a straw man, and really go at him.  You know, 
BAM, BAM, BAM. And I've been denied this opportunity, and it hurts Doc, it 
really... sniffle, sniffle hurts.
 

 Doc: I see.  When did this all come about?
 

 Barry: Well, it was several months ago, but it seems like an eternity.  Doc, 
can ya help me Doc? It's really getting serious.
 

 Doc: Now, now.  Settle down.  Let's see if we can work this out.  Do you have 
any hobbies?
 

 Barry: Sure Doc, I'm an experienced technical writer, and I can write one mean 
TV or film review.  I mean people even pay me money for my film reviews.
 

 Doc: Sure Barry, sure.  Why don't you take some time off and just focus on 
those endeavors that bring you more happiness.
 

 Barry: Okay, Doc.  I guess you're right.  But there's a guy Doc, a real mean 
guy, who claims he's enlightened, Doc.  It just bugs the hell out of me Doc.  I 
mean, it really bugs the hell out of me.
 

 Doc:  Sure, Barry.  We're out of time right now.  We'll talk about it next 
week.  Please be sure and drop your check for 100 euros with Debbie on the way 
out.
 

 Barry: Sure, Doc.  You're the best.  You're swell Doc.  Thanks a million.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 2:43 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rick - Until the Vicious Negativity is 
removed - Goodbye
 
 
   
 Well, I could provide content to FairfieldLife at yahoo-groups and participate 
more on FFL if Rick would do more to protect people on his FFL list from the 
endemic unkindness that has taken it over.







 Well, it may be "unkind" of me to point it out, but it seems to me that if the 
people who used to participate on this list but who stalked away from it in a 
snit *of their own making* and *voluntarily* ran off to create another forum 
had anything to say, they'd be here saying it. Instead -- like Buck -- the 
*only* thing they seem to do when they come here is whine about how persecuted 
they are. 

 

 Surely these wimps can't be TMers. Because as we all know TMers are  I N V I N 
C I B L E, and wouldn't run away whining like scared little puppies just 
because they weren't treated the way they wanted to be treated. Seems to me 
that if any of these folks actually *had something to say* BESIDES whining, 
they'd fit in better here, and enjoy it more. 

 

 I've invited Buck to actually  S A Y   S O M E T H I N G  other than whining 
and actually have an ongoing conversation with someone -- anyone -- here many 
times. And just as many times he's ignored it and continued to act like a whiny 
little bitch. So I can't say that I have much sympathy for his claims of either 
"unkindness" or his even more laughable claim that this place has been "taken 
over." 

 

 THE WHINY LITTLE BITCHES RAN AWAY.
 

 NO ONE FORCED THEM TO DO SO. 

 

 NO ONE "TOOK OVER" FAIRFIELD LIFE. 

 

 WE'RE JUST THE ONES WHO ARE STILL LEFT HERE AFTER THEY RAN AWAY, THAT'S ALL. 

 

 Buck's just whining because *he doesn't have what it takes* to interact with 
his fellow human beings on an equal basis, without being granted special 
privileges for being as "

Re: [FairfieldLife] Last rites

2015-02-10 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
The notion of spending my last moments concerned what others thought of me and 
hoping for them to forgive me doesn't appeal to me. What I hope for at the 
moment of death is a sense of expectation and looking forward to what comes 
next. Looking forward strikes me as a more worthy way to "sum up a life" than 
looking backwards does. 
  From: "s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 4:02 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Last rites
   
    One of my favourite writers has always been Robert Anton Wilson (RAW). He 
wrote some sci-fi/fantasy, of which the best known is probably the Illuminatus! 
Trilogy. I've given his fiction a miss as I have a limited attraction to sci-fi 
but his non-fiction books like Sex, Drugs and Magick and the Cosmic Trigger 
trilogy are entertaining, witty and passionate defences of his libertarian, 
anarchist and esoteric take on life. He was influenced by such fringe prophets 
as The Beast (Aleister Crowley) and the crackpot psychoanalyst Wilhelm Reich. 
And he was a friend and defender of Tim Leary. 
One feature of Wilson's writing was always a heartfelt hostility towards 
Christianity - especially Catholicism, the faith he was indoctrinated in as a 
child. Now, I'm not a Catholic but even I thought that sometimes his attacks on 
that denomination were a bit over the top. Whatever.
Anyway, death comes to us all and for Wilson the year 2007 was his last. I was 
intrigued therefore to hear him saying in those last months that what absorbed 
him more than any other rumination at that critical period was the thought that 
if he'd hurt anyone during his lifetime he hoped that they could forgive him. 
When I heard that I immediately thought: Bejesus! if someone were to challenge 
me to encapsulate the essence of Christianity in a sentence then I reckon that 
saying "a Christian would be someone who at his life's close hoped that anyone 
he'd ever hurt could find it in themselves to forgive him" is as good a try as 
any. That's the true Last Judgement.
The last moments of a person's life have always been considered of particular 
importance in most religious traditions and no doubt the Last Sacrament in 
Catholicism is a more-or-less inadequate attempt to capture something of what 
Wilson was expressing. The caricature that is our stereotype of such situations 
is of a fearful man or woman on their deathbed wracked with fear and shame at a 
life's wasted opportunities and guilt over shabby deeds done -  in other words, 
someone wrapped up in their own selfhood. That has to be a most un-religious 
state! What I liked about RAW's quote is that he wasn't being morbid but was 
looking outwards *towards others* he may have distressed. 
Rather touching (and *not* in a sentimental sense). And it reminds me of a 
thought I've often entertained: Christianity is *not really* about whether you 
believe in God, the Trinity, the Virgin Birth, . . . , but is actually about "a 
way of life" - love, mercy, pity - and the traditional dogmas are just window 
dressing (essentially trying to say in the language of myth what is 
inexpressible in literal speech). 
It's not that I want to paint RAW as having had a "deathbed conversion" - he 
didn't need one! An agnostic like Wilson was closer to the message of Jesus 
than any confirmed Christian who also happens to be a prig and really believes 
that sinners are destined to eternal Hell.  

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Last rites

2015-02-10 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Interesting post. Being "wrapped in one's own selfhood" during one's life 
simply could result in living in "hell on earth" (kinda like Barry seems to be 
doing).  I don't personally really "know" through experience much about 
religion as I wasn't raised in one, but from what I have gleaned, from a broad 
perspective, principles/values associated with being a decent human being are 
pretty much the same across the board for religions/spiritual beliefs in the 
world.  "for it is by self-forgetting that one finds.forgive us our 
trespasses and we forgive those that trespass against us.." I'm sure if I 
were familiar with other "religions", I could find these same principles 
reiterated in there in different context, language, and form, perhaps, but the 
essence of the teachings are probably not that different.   

 

 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 One of my favourite writers has always been Robert Anton Wilson (RAW). He 
wrote some sci-fi/fantasy, of which the best known is probably the Illuminatus! 
Trilogy. I've given his fiction a miss as I have a limited attraction to sci-fi 
but his non-fiction books like Sex, Drugs and Magick and the Cosmic Trigger 
trilogy are entertaining, witty and passionate defences of his libertarian, 
anarchist and esoteric take on life. He was influenced by such fringe prophets 
as The Beast (Aleister Crowley) and the crackpot psychoanalyst Wilhelm Reich. 
And he was a friend and defender of Tim Leary. 
 

 One feature of Wilson's writing was always a heartfelt hostility towards 
Christianity - especially Catholicism, the faith he was indoctrinated in as a 
child. Now, I'm not a Catholic but even I thought that sometimes his attacks on 
that denomination were a bit over the top. Whatever.
 

 Anyway, death comes to us all and for Wilson the year 2007 was his last. I was 
intrigued therefore to hear him saying in those last months that what absorbed 
him more than any other rumination at that critical period was the thought that 
if he'd hurt anyone during his lifetime he hoped that they could forgive him. 
When I heard that I immediately thought: Bejesus! if someone were to challenge 
me to encapsulate the essence of Christianity in a sentence then I reckon that 
saying "a Christian would be someone who at his life's close hoped that anyone 
he'd ever hurt could find it in themselves to forgive him" is as good a try as 
any. That's the true Last Judgement.
 

 The last moments of a person's life have always been considered of particular 
importance in most religious traditions and no doubt the Last Sacrament in 
Catholicism is a more-or-less inadequate attempt to capture something of what 
Wilson was expressing. The caricature that is our stereotype of such situations 
is of a fearful man or woman on their deathbed wracked with fear and shame at a 
life's wasted opportunities and guilt over shabby deeds done -  in other words, 
someone wrapped up in their own selfhood. That has to be a most un-religious 
state! What I liked about RAW's quote is that he wasn't being morbid but was 
looking outwards *towards others* he may have distressed. 
 

 Rather touching (and *not* in a sentimental sense). And it reminds me of a 
thought I've often entertained: Christianity is *not really* about whether you 
believe in God, the Trinity, the Virgin Birth, . . . , but is actually about "a 
way of life" - love, mercy, pity - and the traditional dogmas are just window 
dressing (essentially trying to say in the language of myth what is 
inexpressible in literal speech). 
 

 It's not that I want to paint RAW as having had a "deathbed conversion" - he 
didn't need one! An agnostic like Wilson was closer to the message of Jesus 
than any confirmed Christian who also happens to be a prig and really believes 
that sinners are destined to eternal Hell.  
 

 

  






Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Orme Johnson Experience

2015-02-10 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I'm not buying this. 

I think that blaming things on "Wright and his gang" is a way of shifting blame 
away from the real truth, which is that the people doing this kind of 
complaining (mainly Buck and Feste) simply don't have any spiritual experiences 
TO write. They petered out long ago. 

Unable to admit that, they point fingers and say, "It's all because of him that 
I don't feel comfortable writing about my spiritual experiences," when the 
truth is more likely, "I don't have any spiritual experiences to write about." 

  From: feste37 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 1:58 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Orme Johnson Experience
   
    Wright and his little gang of clever and abusive cynics have pretty much 
killed this group off. The January post count was the lowest for eleven 
years—since February 2004. It is not a pleasant, respectful environment here, 
and any account by anyone of a spiritual experience is likely to meet the same 
contemptuous response by the resident know-it-alls. If Jesus Christ started 
posting here he would be dismissed as a charlatan. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

What cynics you two are! I found his article rather sweet. It's good to see 
someone keeping the faith.
We're not ultimately in opposition: some have to explore altered states of 
consciousness while others have to remain grounded, keep their critical 
faculties intact and point out possible objections. From that interplay we 
advance into the future.
Your cynicism may finally prove justified but at least he has a dream. Sadly, 
most dreamers turn out to be pipe dreamers. I'm hoping he turns out to be on to 
something. 




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

This should really be framed as an example of "What TM does to the mind." 

After decades of practice, it's caused a Ph.D. to use 1,626 words to describe a 
phenomenon that could easily have been described in two ("placebo effect") or 
at most four ("monkey see, monkey do"). 

I think his next study should be on the perils of unimportant people having 
been told for decades how important they are. 

  From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 7:34 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Orme Johnson Experience
 
 
Wow, he actually had an experience! Prolly makes it all worthwhile for him.
I guess there must be a paper on neurological seratonin correlations with 
subjective experiences on the way?




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Waves Below is one of my experiences... - David Orme-Johnson | Facebook
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|  | Waves Below is one of my experiences... - David Orme-Johnson | 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Orme Johnson Experience

2015-02-10 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
How old are you Barry?  Do you think you are an old soul?  Is this what you're 
existence has come down to?  You might have another 10 - 20 years or so to 
live; it's not too late.  You can turn this shit around, Barry.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I'm not buying this. 

 

 I think that blaming things on "Wright and his gang" is a way of shifting 
blame away from the real truth, which is that the people doing this kind of 
complaining (mainly Buck and Feste) simply don't have any spiritual experiences 
TO write. They petered out long ago. 

 

 Unable to admit that, they point fingers and say, "It's all because of him 
that I don't feel comfortable writing about my spiritual experiences," when the 
truth is more likely, "I don't have any spiritual experiences to write about." 


 From: feste37 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 1:58 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Orme Johnson Experience
 
 
   Wright and his little gang of clever and abusive cynics have pretty much 
killed this group off. The January post count was the lowest for eleven 
years—since February 2004. It is not a pleasant, respectful environment here, 
and any account by anyone of a spiritual experience is likely to meet the same 
contemptuous response by the resident know-it-alls. If Jesus Christ started 
posting here he would be dismissed as a charlatan. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 What cynics you two are! I found his article rather sweet. It's good to see 
someone keeping the faith. 

 We're not ultimately in opposition: some have to explore altered states of 
consciousness while others have to remain grounded, keep their critical 
faculties intact and point out possible objections. From that interplay we 
advance into the future.
 

 Your cynicism may finally prove justified but at least he has a dream. Sadly, 
most dreamers turn out to be pipe dreamers. I'm hoping he turns out to be on to 
something. 
 

 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This should really be framed as an example of "What TM does to the mind." 

 

 After decades of practice, it's caused a Ph.D. to use 1,626 words to describe 
a phenomenon that could easily have been described in two ("placebo effect") or 
at most four ("monkey see, monkey do"). 

 

 I think his next study should be on the perils of unimportant people having 
been told for decades how important they are. 

 

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 7:34 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Orme Johnson Experience
 
 
   

 Wow, he actually had an experience! Prolly makes it all worthwhile for him.
 

 I guess there must be a paper on neurological seratonin correlations with 
subjective experiences on the way?
 

 


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Waves Below is one of my experiences... - David Orme-Johnson | Facebook 
https://www.facebook.com/david.ormejohnson/posts/1592664690967881 
 
 Waves Below is one of my experiences... - David Orme-Johnson | Facebook 
https://www.facebook.com/david.ormejohnson/posts/1592664690967881 Waves Below 
is one of my experiences from the Invincible America Assembly from last 
October. First, some definitions of the terms that may be...


 
 View on www.facebook.com 
https://www.facebook.com/david.ormejohnson/posts/1592664690967881
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 





 


 














 


 











Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Orme Johnson Experience

2015-02-10 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Excuse all my typos.  I'm tired.  Good night Barry.  You just aren't that 
important.  Don't forget it.   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 How old are you Barry?  Do you think you are an old soul?  Is this what you're 
existence has come down to?  You might have another 10 - 20 years or so to 
live; it's not too late.  You can turn this shit around, Barry.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I'm not buying this. 

 

 I think that blaming things on "Wright and his gang" is a way of shifting 
blame away from the real truth, which is that the people doing this kind of 
complaining (mainly Buck and Feste) simply don't have any spiritual experiences 
TO write. They petered out long ago. 

 

 Unable to admit that, they point fingers and say, "It's all because of him 
that I don't feel comfortable writing about my spiritual experiences," when the 
truth is more likely, "I don't have any spiritual experiences to write about." 


 From: feste37 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 1:58 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Orme Johnson Experience
 
 
   Wright and his little gang of clever and abusive cynics have pretty much 
killed this group off. The January post count was the lowest for eleven 
years—since February 2004. It is not a pleasant, respectful environment here, 
and any account by anyone of a spiritual experience is likely to meet the same 
contemptuous response by the resident know-it-alls. If Jesus Christ started 
posting here he would be dismissed as a charlatan. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 What cynics you two are! I found his article rather sweet. It's good to see 
someone keeping the faith. 

 We're not ultimately in opposition: some have to explore altered states of 
consciousness while others have to remain grounded, keep their critical 
faculties intact and point out possible objections. From that interplay we 
advance into the future.
 

 Your cynicism may finally prove justified but at least he has a dream. Sadly, 
most dreamers turn out to be pipe dreamers. I'm hoping he turns out to be on to 
something. 
 

 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This should really be framed as an example of "What TM does to the mind." 

 

 After decades of practice, it's caused a Ph.D. to use 1,626 words to describe 
a phenomenon that could easily have been described in two ("placebo effect") or 
at most four ("monkey see, monkey do"). 

 

 I think his next study should be on the perils of unimportant people having 
been told for decades how important they are. 

 

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 7:34 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Orme Johnson Experience
 
 
   

 Wow, he actually had an experience! Prolly makes it all worthwhile for him.
 

 I guess there must be a paper on neurological seratonin correlations with 
subjective experiences on the way?
 

 


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Waves Below is one of my experiences... - David Orme-Johnson | Facebook 
https://www.facebook.com/david.ormejohnson/posts/1592664690967881 
 
 Waves Below is one of my experiences... - David Orme-Johnson | Facebook 
https://www.facebook.com/david.ormejohnson/posts/1592664690967881 Waves Below 
is one of my experiences from the Invincible America Assembly from last 
October. First, some definitions of the terms that may be...


 
 View on www.facebook.com 
https://www.facebook.com/david.ormejohnson/posts/1592664690967881
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 





 


 














 


 













Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Orme Johnson Experience

2015-02-10 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 7:33 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Orme Johnson Experience
   
    I'm not buying this. 

I think that blaming things on "Wright and his gang" is a way of shifting blame 
away from the real truth, which is that the people doing this kind of 
complaining (mainly Buck and Feste) simply don't have any spiritual experiences 
TO write. They petered out long ago. 

Unable to admit that, they point fingers and say, "It's all because of him that 
I don't feel comfortable writing about my spiritual experiences," when the 
truth is more likely, "I don't have any spiritual experiences to write about." 

In fact, here's a challenge that I suspect will indicate how correct this 
assessment is. 

I challenge Feste, Buck, Emily, Seventhray, and all the others who seem to live 
for Dumping On Barry these days to post a link to the last post *they* made to 
Fairfield Life that discussed a spiritual experience that they've actually had, 
and more recently than the last time they saw Maharishi. 

I'd be willing to bet that none of them will take me up on this challenge 
because it would be too embarrassing for them to do so. 

In case you missed it, I"m suggesting that bitching about someone you don't 
like and claiming that *they're* the reason you don't post about all your 
tremendous spiritual experiences is a way of hiding the fact that all you're 
really capable of IS bitching, and that you don't actually HAVE any spiritual 
experiences to write about. 

It's really easy to prove me wrong. Just post the URLs to all of the posts 
you've written detailing your spiritual experiences. Or write a new one. I'm 
betting that none of you will (or even can) do either. 

  From: feste37 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 1:58 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Orme Johnson Experience
   
    Wright and his little gang of clever and abusive cynics have pretty much 
killed this group off. The January post count was the lowest for eleven 
years—since February 2004. It is not a pleasant, respectful environment here, 
and any account by anyone of a spiritual experience is likely to meet the same 
contemptuous response by the resident know-it-alls. If Jesus Christ started 
posting here he would be dismissed as a charlatan. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

What cynics you two are! I found his article rather sweet. It's good to see 
someone keeping the faith.
We're not ultimately in opposition: some have to explore altered states of 
consciousness while others have to remain grounded, keep their critical 
faculties intact and point out possible objections. From that interplay we 
advance into the future.
Your cynicism may finally prove justified but at least he has a dream. Sadly, 
most dreamers turn out to be pipe dreamers. I'm hoping he turns out to be on to 
something. 




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

This should really be framed as an example of "What TM does to the mind." 

After decades of practice, it's caused a Ph.D. to use 1,626 words to describe a 
phenomenon that could easily have been described in two ("placebo effect") or 
at most four ("monkey see, monkey do"). 

I think his next study should be on the perils of unimportant people having 
been told for decades how important they are. 

  From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 7:34 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Orme Johnson Experience
 
 
Wow, he actually had an experience! Prolly makes it all worthwhile for him.
I guess there must be a paper on neurological seratonin correlations with 
subjective experiences on the way?




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Waves Below is one of my experiences... - David Orme-Johnson | Facebook
|  |
|  | Waves Below is one of my experiences... - David Orme-Johnson | 
Facebook Waves Below is one of my experiences from the Invincible America 
Assembly from last October. First, some definitions of the terms that may be... 
|  |
| View on www.facebook.com|   Preview by Yahoo  |
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