Re: [FairfieldLife] Tomorrow's world yesterday...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : I just love the better mousetrap. :-) Foolproof and so adaptable, I'm building one for my peanut butter cupboard. I'd better track down the patent holder first though... From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 10:28 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Tomorrow's world yesterday... Now I know what's missing from my life: an oscillating bath tub. How come these never made it into production? Imagining the future: early 20th century US patents - in pictures http://www.theguardian.com/technology/gallery/2015/may/14/imagining-the-future-turn-of-the-century-us-patents-in-pictures http://www.theguardian.com/technology/gallery/2015/may/14/imagining-the-future-turn-of-the-century-us-patents-in-pictures Imagining the future: early 20th century US patents - in... http://www.theguardian.com/technology/gallery/2015/may/14/imagining-the-future-turn-of-the-century-us-patents-in-pictures Historic patents from the early 20th century show how aspiring inventors predicted that humans would fly View on www.theguardian.com http://www.theguardian.com/technology/gallery/2015/may/14/imagining-the-future-turn-of-the-century-us-patents-in-pictures Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see on FFL is Maharishi's fault
certifiable at this point? if anyone even reads it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : For some time now (over a year, and escalating after one particular person took a powder from the forum and essentially told everyone here to fuck off and die), the primary characteristic of the forum called Fairfield Life has IMO been whining. A few TM TBs, deprived of their version of Saint Joan to fight their battles for them against the invading hoard of infidels, tried to do the same thing themselves, and with disastrous results. Not being able to *stand* the fact that people who disagreed with them about the importance of TM, Maharishi, and above all their over-corpulent egos could express these thing freely here, they set about a non-stop snipe hunt in which they tried to demonize them and make them go away. That exercise in pettiness went so far that one of the constant heretic-attackers finally went over the line and resorted to actual slander -- he encouraged people to call or write officials in the home town of one poster he particularly hated, and tell them that he was a child molestor. Rightfully busted on this, he ran off with his tail between his legs and tried to form a new group, one in which supposedly right-thinking, *really* spiritual people like himself could talk about spirituality without being interrupted by horrible heretics like myself. It took less than a month for him to throw the first person off of his new forum, for the sin of revealing what he was up to back over on FFL, the forum he'd sworn he would never visit again as long as I was here. Go figure. What a fuckin' soap opera, right? So anyway, a few of these folks left, and started their own forum, one on which they can supposedly say anything they want about their so-called peak experiences, without anyone pissing in their cyberpunchbowl. One would think they'd be happy, and...uh...stay over there, where they claim things are so much better. But n. A hard-core few of them spend more time writing to Fairfield Life than they do The_Leak, saying essentially the same thing over and over and over: We don't like it over here, because a few people don't treat us with the respect we deserve when we talk about 'spiritual' topics. These people are BAD, and should be made to go away, so we can 'share' our spiritual experiences without fear of interruption or embarrassing demands for proof of our claims. Blah-blah-blah. You know the whine...you've heard it now for quite some time. My contention in this post is that the whining comes directly from how they were taught to act and live by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. HE was the one who taught these TM followers that the only safe way they could live in this world was to clump together in groups. If you were doing Maharishi's program correctly, you had to live in TM-only communities, reside in TM-approved houses, bounce on your butts together several times a day, and participate in the sessions in which you share experiences and get them voted #1 experiences or #2 experiences or whatever. In those sharing sessions, there were always two sides to the sharing. A few people would have actual experiences to share, and if they were deemed #1 experiences, everybody would look at them in an envious way and inwardly go Woo!, and they'd actually get some attention. In the TMO, with its we-only-have-one-leader-and-he's-the-only-one-there-will-ever-be-allowed-to-become-the-focus-of-attention mentality, getting a little attention by talking about your spiritual experiences in one of these sharing sessions was pretty much the only attention you were ever going to get. The other side of the sharing experience was personified by the much larger vast majority of people who never had anything to share. THEY were there because many of them had never really ever HAD a major spiritual experience, and they needed to hear other people talk about *theirs* so as not to lose hope. It was the same rationale as all the TM research -- even if you had never had any experiences in decades of meditating that felt like the enlightenment you were promised, you could still have hope if you heard other people talking about *their* experiences or saw some chart that suggested they were actually *having* experiences. Now think about Fairfield Life. Same thing. Same dynamic. Sure, when Rick started the forum, it was intended as a safe forum for people who had gripes with the TMO to express them, and some of that has determined the character and the nature of the forum ever since. But for a smaller number of FFL participants, this was a place where they could come and act out the two sides of the dome sharing experience in cyberspace. Those who were hungry for attention could talk about their supposedly spiritual experiences, and a few people would go Woo and they'd get some attention. There is no need to name these people, because
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see on FFL is Maharishi's fault
So, fifteen subscribers, including all the women, left the group to protest the degrading, malicious and demeaning slurs, but it's all Buck's fault for complaining about it. And, now you want to talk about spiritual experiences. Can you spell delusional? Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sa...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It was you who insinuated that this place wasn't a place to talk about spiritual things. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : It is just their usual toxic meme abusing and demeaning people here at FFL they get to rant calling people 'whiners' degrading and humiliating folks by slur that folks are, 'hallucinating' and 'hysterical'. Correction: It was you who insinuated that this place wasn't a place to talk about spiritual things. And you did that instead of reacting to a clear prompt from a newbie to discuss your experiences in transcendence. And you did it by slagging off everyone else in your usual whiny fashion (much like the rest of your post here). And in case you hadn't noticed, we actually managed to turn it into just the sort of discussion about meditation that you claim is lacking round here. Go figure. This is why we think you are hallucinating. ..asserting large strawman-like assumptions in method about people and then using the opportunity to publicly degrade and humiliate folks here with the insinuating slur. It is formulaic meme with them here in a writing methodically to abuse and hurt people. Often in complete violation of the Yahoo-groups guidelines that way, it is simply toxic to the community of the group here. Rick as owner of this yahoo-group should set in motion something and do something about this. Enforcing the Yahoo-groups guidelines should improve the forum of this yahoo-group. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : certifiable at this point? if anyone even reads it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : For some time now (over a year, and escalating after one particular person took a powder from the forum and essentially told everyone here to fuck off and die), the primary characteristic of the forum called Fairfield Life has IMO been whining. A few TM TBs, deprived of their version of Saint Joan to fight their battles for them against the invading hoard of infidels, tried to do the same thing themselves, and with disastrous results. Not being able to *stand* the fact that people who disagreed with them about the importance of TM, Maharishi, and above all their over-corpulent egos could express these thing freely here, they set about a non-stop snipe hunt in which they tried to demonize them and make them go away. That exercise in pettiness went so far that one of the constant heretic-attackers finally went over the line and resorted to actual slander -- he encouraged people to call or write officials in the home town of one poster he particularly hated, and tell them that he was a child molestor. Rightfully busted on this, he ran off with his tail between his legs and tried to form a new group, one in which supposedly right-thinking, *really* spiritual people like himself could talk about spirituality without being interrupted by horrible heretics like myself. It took less than a month for him to throw the first person off of his new forum, for the sin of revealing what he was up to back over on FFL, the forum he'd sworn he would never visit again as long as I was here. Go figure. What a fuckin' soap opera, right? So anyway, a few of these folks left, and started their own forum, one on which they can supposedly say anything they want about their so-called peak experiences, without anyone pissing in their cyberpunchbowl. One would think they'd be happy, and...uh...stay over there, where they claim things are so much better. But n. A hard-core few of them spend more time writing to Fairfield Life than they do The_Leak, saying essentially the same thing over and over and over: We don't like it over here, because a few people don't treat us with the respect we deserve when we talk about 'spiritual' topics. These people are BAD, and should be made to go away, so we can 'share' our spiritual experiences without fear of interruption or embarrassing demands for proof of our claims. Blah-blah-blah. You know the whine...you've heard it now for quite some time. My contention in this post is that the whining comes directly from how they were taught to act and live by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. HE was the one who taught these TM followers that the only safe way they could live in this world was to clump together in groups. If you were doing Maharishi's program correctly, you had to live in TM-only communities, reside in TM-approved houses, bounce on your butts together several times a day, and participate in the sessions in which you share experiences and get them voted #1 experiences or #2
[FairfieldLife] Re: Have you had an experience of higher states of consciousness? Please FORWARD!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Re But what would an experience of ultimate reality actually involve?: It would be an experience of pure consciousness - pure subjectivity. I put experience in scare quotes because in this case there is no division between an experiencer and the experience, as is usually the case. And the tasting of a pure state of consciousness would indeed be an experience of ultimate reality because literally everything else is simply a modification of consciousness. Yup, that's what I said. Everything is what is going on in our brains - neural noise - and higher states are part of our normal repertoire of emotions, just experienced in a different or original way. Can one not be too - way, way too - humble about this whole issue? If experiencing ultimate reality isn't the most blindingly obvious, undeniable event it can't have been ultimate reality one experienced! Isn't that logically irrefutable? Ah, if you'd asked me this twenty years ago when I first had the experience I'd be saying it was the most awesome thing I'd ever known. But after repeated exposure it becomes familiar in the way a favourite song does. It loses it's novelty and sooner or later it's just a bit more Meh... They say that enlightenment is when this awesome profoundness becomes integrated into everyday awareness and maybe they are right but you don't keep the opinion or experience of walking around in an infinite sea of bliss and awareness, not at all. You wouldn't get anything done if you did, which doesn't mean there aren't nice aspects to it but if you bought the line that Marshy was walking around in a state of high union with god and that you could too, I'm afraid you brought a baited hook. Unless I'm doing it all wrong, but it all seems so natural I doubt that I am. What interests me more now is how to get an explanation of higher states that stems from an evolutionary understanding of consciousness. To have this latent talent is an interesting poser yes? And being able to do by closing my eyes and thinking a sanskrit word made me turn away from a pure a Darwinian perspective and delve into the religious cosmology of the reesh. but not for long I'm happy to say. Still time for a conversion though, I just need a bit of evidence that something irreducible is happening and I'll eat my yoga mat. The neural noise you refer to must be noticed by an awareness to be noise so must itself be an object. It's the awareness that is ultimate and it is completely and totally empty and boundless (what could enclose it?). Has to be, if there was no awareness you'd be unconscious. I'm not going to use the word ultimate because - as with terms like higher and god consciousness - it comes too laden with expectation or a pre-decided value that it may turn out not to have. The boundlessness is an illusion in that you aren't experiencing anything infinite but rather that the normal way your brain constructs it's vision of the world is changed by having its Cartesian sense of objects placed within a space altered by removing the objects. What we see is the machinery we have to see but without anything there. It sounds like the same thing as the mystics but I'm saying we shouldn't spin it with this idea that consciousness is infinite or some sort of other thing whether it's our normal day to day minds or expanded and higher states. It makes it all sound rather mundane but it's great fun, and knowing how it works won't stop the experiences, at least it hasn't for me because - like everything - it's just neural stuff and will work whatever explanation or designation I come up with for it. That's a telling thing about consciousness, you can't switch it on or off, it's part of what happens when we are awake, that's what is cool about it. It can be altered with drugs and meditation or reduced by lack of sleep but it's not a thing, it's an action. It's what our brains do. There is no unified field for it to be a part of, no screen of ultimate reality that will be revealed to us. There is no such thing as consciousness. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I think I did this survey before or something very similar. I was a TB at the time and revelled in the depth of my god head experiences. This time I can't stop quibbling about the terms like God or Ultimate reality, god is nonsense ( or at least the idea that we can experience it using the stuff in out heads, confuse it with some sort of god perhaps but it's all kiddology I think) But what would an experience of ultimate reality actually involve? Everything I see is a virtual reality programme running in my head and spiritual experiences are part of that illusion but why we think we need to invoke such aggrandising terms is a mystery to me now. It wasn't then though, maybe because the highs were fresh and
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see on FFL is Maharishi's fault
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : It is just their usual toxic meme abusing and demeaning people here at FFL they get to rant calling people 'whiners' degrading and humiliating folks by slur that folks are, 'hallucinating' and 'hysterical'. Correction: It was you who insinuated that this place wasn't a place to talk about spiritual things. And you did that instead of reacting to a clear prompt from a newbie to discuss your experiences in transcendence. And you did it by slagging off everyone else in your usual whiny fashion (much like the rest of your post here). And in case you hadn't noticed, we actually managed to turn it into just the sort of discussion about meditation that you claim is lacking round here. Go figure. This is why we think you are hallucinating. ..asserting large strawman-like assumptions in method about people and then using the opportunity to publicly degrade and humiliate folks here with the insinuating slur. It is formulaic meme with them here in a writing methodically to abuse and hurt people. Often in complete violation of the Yahoo-groups guidelines that way, it is simply toxic to the community of the group here. Rick as owner of this yahoo-group should set in motion something and do something about this. Enforcing the Yahoo-groups guidelines should improve the forum of this yahoo-group. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : certifiable at this point? if anyone even reads it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : For some time now (over a year, and escalating after one particular person took a powder from the forum and essentially told everyone here to fuck off and die), the primary characteristic of the forum called Fairfield Life has IMO been whining. A few TM TBs, deprived of their version of Saint Joan to fight their battles for them against the invading hoard of infidels, tried to do the same thing themselves, and with disastrous results. Not being able to *stand* the fact that people who disagreed with them about the importance of TM, Maharishi, and above all their over-corpulent egos could express these thing freely here, they set about a non-stop snipe hunt in which they tried to demonize them and make them go away. That exercise in pettiness went so far that one of the constant heretic-attackers finally went over the line and resorted to actual slander -- he encouraged people to call or write officials in the home town of one poster he particularly hated, and tell them that he was a child molestor. Rightfully busted on this, he ran off with his tail between his legs and tried to form a new group, one in which supposedly right-thinking, *really* spiritual people like himself could talk about spirituality without being interrupted by horrible heretics like myself. It took less than a month for him to throw the first person off of his new forum, for the sin of revealing what he was up to back over on FFL, the forum he'd sworn he would never visit again as long as I was here. Go figure. What a fuckin' soap opera, right? So anyway, a few of these folks left, and started their own forum, one on which they can supposedly say anything they want about their so-called peak experiences, without anyone pissing in their cyberpunchbowl. One would think they'd be happy, and...uh...stay over there, where they claim things are so much better. But n. A hard-core few of them spend more time writing to Fairfield Life than they do The_Leak, saying essentially the same thing over and over and over: We don't like it over here, because a few people don't treat us with the respect we deserve when we talk about 'spiritual' topics. These people are BAD, and should be made to go away, so we can 'share' our spiritual experiences without fear of interruption or embarrassing demands for proof of our claims. Blah-blah-blah. You know the whine...you've heard it now for quite some time. My contention in this post is that the whining comes directly from how they were taught to act and live by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. HE was the one who taught these TM followers that the only safe way they could live in this world was to clump together in groups. If you were doing Maharishi's program correctly, you had to live in TM-only communities, reside in TM-approved houses, bounce on your butts together several times a day, and participate in the sessions in which you share experiences and get them voted #1 experiences or #2 experiences or whatever. In those sharing sessions, there were always two sides to the sharing. A few people would have actual experiences to share, and if they were deemed #1 experiences, everybody would look at them in an envious way and inwardly go Woo!, and they'd actually get some attention. In the TMO, with its we-only-have-one-leader-and-he's-the-only-one-there-will-ever-be-allowed-to-become-the-focus-of-attention
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see on FFL is Maharishi's fault
It is just their usual toxic meme abusing and demeaning people here at FFL they get to rant calling people 'whiners' degrading and humiliating folks by slur that folks are, 'hallucinating' and 'hysterical'. ..asserting large strawman-like assumptions in method about people and then using the opportunity to publicly degrade and humiliate folks here with the insinuating slur. It is formulaic meme with them here in a writing methodically to abuse and hurt people. Often in complete violation of the Yahoo-groups guidelines that way, it is simply toxic to the community of the group here. Rick as owner of this yahoo-group should set in motion something and do something about this. Enforcing the Yahoo-groups guidelines should improve the forum of this yahoo-group. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : certifiable at this point? if anyone even reads it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : For some time now (over a year, and escalating after one particular person took a powder from the forum and essentially told everyone here to fuck off and die), the primary characteristic of the forum called Fairfield Life has IMO been whining. A few TM TBs, deprived of their version of Saint Joan to fight their battles for them against the invading hoard of infidels, tried to do the same thing themselves, and with disastrous results. Not being able to *stand* the fact that people who disagreed with them about the importance of TM, Maharishi, and above all their over-corpulent egos could express these thing freely here, they set about a non-stop snipe hunt in which they tried to demonize them and make them go away. That exercise in pettiness went so far that one of the constant heretic-attackers finally went over the line and resorted to actual slander -- he encouraged people to call or write officials in the home town of one poster he particularly hated, and tell them that he was a child molestor. Rightfully busted on this, he ran off with his tail between his legs and tried to form a new group, one in which supposedly right-thinking, *really* spiritual people like himself could talk about spirituality without being interrupted by horrible heretics like myself. It took less than a month for him to throw the first person off of his new forum, for the sin of revealing what he was up to back over on FFL, the forum he'd sworn he would never visit again as long as I was here. Go figure. What a fuckin' soap opera, right? So anyway, a few of these folks left, and started their own forum, one on which they can supposedly say anything they want about their so-called peak experiences, without anyone pissing in their cyberpunchbowl. One would think they'd be happy, and...uh...stay over there, where they claim things are so much better. But n. A hard-core few of them spend more time writing to Fairfield Life than they do The_Leak, saying essentially the same thing over and over and over: We don't like it over here, because a few people don't treat us with the respect we deserve when we talk about 'spiritual' topics. These people are BAD, and should be made to go away, so we can 'share' our spiritual experiences without fear of interruption or embarrassing demands for proof of our claims. Blah-blah-blah. You know the whine...you've heard it now for quite some time. My contention in this post is that the whining comes directly from how they were taught to act and live by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. HE was the one who taught these TM followers that the only safe way they could live in this world was to clump together in groups. If you were doing Maharishi's program correctly, you had to live in TM-only communities, reside in TM-approved houses, bounce on your butts together several times a day, and participate in the sessions in which you share experiences and get them voted #1 experiences or #2 experiences or whatever. In those sharing sessions, there were always two sides to the sharing. A few people would have actual experiences to share, and if they were deemed #1 experiences, everybody would look at them in an envious way and inwardly go Woo!, and they'd actually get some attention. In the TMO, with its we-only-have-one-leader-and-he's-the-only-one-there-will-ever-be-allowed-to-become-the-focus-of-attention mentality, getting a little attention by talking about your spiritual experiences in one of these sharing sessions was pretty much the only attention you were ever going to get. The other side of the sharing experience was personified by the much larger vast majority of people who never had anything to share. THEY were there because many of them had never really ever HAD a major spiritual experience, and they needed to hear other people talk about *theirs* so as not to lose hope. It was the same rationale as all the TM research -- even if you had never had any experiences in decades of meditating that
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see on FFL is Maharishi's fault
I think you are correct and I think it's pathological to insist that a chat room is not spiritual enough and then stay there dragging the place down instead of thinking of relevant contributions, especially when you have a ready made alternative just a mouse click away where all is sweetness and light. The need to stick around and bitch is symptomatic of something but I can't be bothered to do any research into it because it's so dull. I really hope there's no such thing as a life review when we die, because the three whining trolls here are going to really hate seeing how much of their lives they've spent saying the same thing over and over again. And to no effect. I wouldn't wish it on anyone. And one thing is really for sure, this aint spiritual behaviour. Or I read the wrong books... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : For some time now (over a year, and escalating after one particular person took a powder from the forum and essentially told everyone here to fuck off and die), the primary characteristic of the forum called Fairfield Life has IMO been whining. A few TM TBs, deprived of their version of Saint Joan to fight their battles for them against the invading hoard of infidels, tried to do the same thing themselves, and with disastrous results. Not being able to *stand* the fact that people who disagreed with them about the importance of TM, Maharishi, and above all their over-corpulent egos could express these thing freely here, they set about a non-stop snipe hunt in which they tried to demonize them and make them go away. That exercise in pettiness went so far that one of the constant heretic-attackers finally went over the line and resorted to actual slander -- he encouraged people to call or write officials in the home town of one poster he particularly hated, and tell them that he was a child molestor. Rightfully busted on this, he ran off with his tail between his legs and tried to form a new group, one in which supposedly right-thinking, *really* spiritual people like himself could talk about spirituality without being interrupted by horrible heretics like myself. It took less than a month for him to throw the first person off of his new forum, for the sin of revealing what he was up to back over on FFL, the forum he'd sworn he would never visit again as long as I was here. Go figure. What a fuckin' soap opera, right? So anyway, a few of these folks left, and started their own forum, one on which they can supposedly say anything they want about their so-called peak experiences, without anyone pissing in their cyberpunchbowl. One would think they'd be happy, and...uh...stay over there, where they claim things are so much better. But n. A hard-core few of them spend more time writing to Fairfield Life than they do The_Leak, saying essentially the same thing over and over and over: We don't like it over here, because a few people don't treat us with the respect we deserve when we talk about 'spiritual' topics. These people are BAD, and should be made to go away, so we can 'share' our spiritual experiences without fear of interruption or embarrassing demands for proof of our claims. Blah-blah-blah. You know the whine...you've heard it now for quite some time. My contention in this post is that the whining comes directly from how they were taught to act and live by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. HE was the one who taught these TM followers that the only safe way they could live in this world was to clump together in groups. If you were doing Maharishi's program correctly, you had to live in TM-only communities, reside in TM-approved houses, bounce on your butts together several times a day, and participate in the sessions in which you share experiences and get them voted #1 experiences or #2 experiences or whatever. In those sharing sessions, there were always two sides to the sharing. A few people would have actual experiences to share, and if they were deemed #1 experiences, everybody would look at them in an envious way and inwardly go Woo!, and they'd actually get some attention. In the TMO, with its we-only-have-one-leader-and-he's-the-only-one-there-will-ever-be-allowed-to-become-the-focus-of-attention mentality, getting a little attention by talking about your spiritual experiences in one of these sharing sessions was pretty much the only attention you were ever going to get. The other side of the sharing experience was personified by the much larger vast majority of people who never had anything to share. THEY were there because many of them had never really ever HAD a major spiritual experience, and they needed to hear other people talk about *theirs* so as not to lose hope. It was the same rationale as all the TM research -- even if you had never had any experiences in decades of meditating that felt like the enlightenment you were promised, you could still have hope if you
[FairfieldLife] Re: Freedom Summit
Foriegn policy will probably be the big issue in the next U.S. presidential election. We will examine all aspects in the coming debates and they better have a good plan to protect America, considering that the enemies of the open society are are already at the gates and working from the inside. Laying out a hawkish foreign policy vision repudiating the Obama era, Sen. Marco Rubio declared in Manhattan today that America’s physical and ideological strength had “deteriorated” since Mr. Obama took office in 2009... Marco Rubio Says America's Physical Strength Has 'Deteriorated' Under Obama http://observer.com/2015/05/marco-rubio-says-americas-physical-strength-has-deteriorated-under-obama/ http://observer.com/2015/05/marco-rubio-says-americas-physical-strength-has-deteriorated-under-obama/ Marco Rubio Says America's Physical Strength Has ... http://observer.com/2015/05/marco-rubio-says-americas-physical-strength-has-deteriorated-under-obama/ Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida laid out his foreign policy vision in Manhattan today. View on observer.com http://observer.com/2015/05/marco-rubio-says-americas-physical-strength-has-deteriorated-under-obama/ Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote : OMG! The likely Republican presidential candidate will instead attend a competing event, the RedState Gathering in Atlanta, the day of the Iowa event, GOP sources in Iowa told The Des Moines Register... Jeb Bush to skip Iowa Straw Poll http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2015/05/12/jeb-bush-skip-iowa-straw-poll/27187589/ http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2015/05/12/jeb-bush-skip-iowa-straw-poll/27187589/ Jeb Bush to skip Iowa Straw Poll http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2015/05/12/jeb-bush-skip-iowa-straw-poll/27187589/ Jeb Bush will instead attend a competing GOP event in Atlanta. View on www.desmoinesregis... http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2015/05/12/jeb-bush-skip-iowa-straw-poll/27187589/ Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote : “I really think this is going to be a national security election, really for the first time since 2004,” said Sam Clovis, a college professor and influential political activist in Iowa. Perry sets focus on military, foreign policy http://www.expressnews.com/news/local/article/Perry-sets-focus-on-military-foreign-policy-6254791.php http://www.expressnews.com/news/local/article/Perry-sets-focus-on-military-foreign-policy-6254791.php Perry sets focus on military, foreign policy http://www.expressnews.com/news/local/article/Perry-sets-focus-on-military-foreign-policy-6254791.php AUSTIN — For 14 years, Rick Perry led the biggest Republican state in America, spearheading dozens of tax cuts, landmark tort reform and some of the na... View on www.expressnews.com http://www.expressnews.com/news/local/article/Perry-sets-focus-on-military-foreign-policy-6254791.php Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote : “There's no clear Republican front-runner in the New Hampshire presidential nominating contest, while Hillary Clinton retains an overwhelming advantage among Democrats in the Granite State's first-in-the-nation primary.” New Hampshire Poll: New Hampshire Poll: Republican Field Tightens, Hillary Clinton Still Out in Front Among Democrats http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-05-10/new-hampshire-poll-republican-field-tightens-hillary-clinton-still-out-in-front-among-democrats http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-05-10/new-hampshire-poll-republican-field-tightens-hillary-clinton-still-out-in-front-among-democrats New Hampshire Poll: Republican Field Tightens, H... http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-05-10/new-hampshire-poll-republican-field-tightens-hillary-clinton-still-out-in-front-among-democrats General election match-ups are tightening as three Republican hopefuls come within striking distance of Clinton. View on www.bloomberg.com http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-05-10/new-hampshire-poll-republican-field-tightens-hillary-clinton-still-out-in-front-among-democrats Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote : Huckabee, who won Iowa’s 2008 caucuses, aims to become the second person to win two contested Iowa caucuses. Mike Huckabee’s appalling crusade http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/mike-huckabees-awful-crusade/2015/05/08/d983dc9e-f51e-11e4-b2f3-af5479e6bbdd_story.html http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/mike-huckabees-awful-crusade/2015/05/08/d983dc9e-f51e-11e4-b2f3-af5479e6bbdd_story.html Mike Huckabee’s appalling crusade
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see on FFL is Maharishi's fault
It looks like they're tilting at windmills, Buck - flailing around trying to find someone to blame for their own spiritual failures. Apparently they were not able to even practice a simple, easy meditation technique. Go figure. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawman ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : It is just their usual toxic meme abusing and demeaning people here at FFL they get to rant calling people 'whiners' degrading and humiliating folks by slur that folks are, 'hallucinating' and 'hysterical'. Not everyone is ready to be a spiritual teacher. They probably can't even remember the words to the initiation or even their mantra to meditate on. Failure is sometimes a tough reality to admit. ..asserting large strawman-like assumptions in method about people and then using the opportunity to publicly degrade and humiliate folks here with the insinuating slur. A straw man or straw person, also known in the UK as an Aunt Sally, is a type of argument and is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawman http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawman It is formulaic meme with them here in a writing methodically to abuse and hurt people. Often in complete violation of the Yahoo-groups guidelines that way, it is simply toxic to the community of the group here. Rick as owner of this yahoo-group should set in motion something and do something about this. Enforcing the Yahoo-groups guidelines should improve the forum of this yahoo-group. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : certifiable at this point? if anyone even reads it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : For some time now (over a year, and escalating after one particular person took a powder from the forum and essentially told everyone here to fuck off and die), the primary characteristic of the forum called Fairfield Life has IMO been whining. A few TM TBs, deprived of their version of Saint Joan to fight their battles for them against the invading hoard of infidels, tried to do the same thing themselves, and with disastrous results. Not being able to *stand* the fact that people who disagreed with them about the importance of TM, Maharishi, and above all their over-corpulent egos could express these thing freely here, they set about a non-stop snipe hunt in which they tried to demonize them and make them go away. That exercise in pettiness went so far that one of the constant heretic-attackers finally went over the line and resorted to actual slander -- he encouraged people to call or write officials in the home town of one poster he particularly hated, and tell them that he was a child molestor. Rightfully busted on this, he ran off with his tail between his legs and tried to form a new group, one in which supposedly right-thinking, *really* spiritual people like himself could talk about spirituality without being interrupted by horrible heretics like myself. It took less than a month for him to throw the first person off of his new forum, for the sin of revealing what he was up to back over on FFL, the forum he'd sworn he would never visit again as long as I was here. Go figure. What a fuckin' soap opera, right? So anyway, a few of these folks left, and started their own forum, one on which they can supposedly say anything they want about their so-called peak experiences, without anyone pissing in their cyberpunchbowl. One would think they'd be happy, and...uh...stay over there, where they claim things are so much better. But n. A hard-core few of them spend more time writing to Fairfield Life than they do The_Leak, saying essentially the same thing over and over and over: We don't like it over here, because a few people don't treat us with the respect we deserve when we talk about 'spiritual' topics. These people are BAD, and should be made to go away, so we can 'share' our spiritual experiences without fear of interruption or embarrassing demands for proof of our claims. Blah-blah-blah. You know the whine...you've heard it now for quite some time. My contention in this post is that the whining comes directly from how they were taught to act and live by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. HE was the one who taught these TM followers that the only safe way they could live in this world was to clump together in groups. If you were doing Maharishi's program correctly, you had to live in TM-only communities, reside in TM-approved houses, bounce on your butts together several times a day, and participate in the sessions in which you share experiences and get them voted #1 experiences or #2 experiences or whatever. In those sharing sessions, there were always two sides to the sharing. A few people would have actual experiences to share, and if they were deemed #1 experiences, everybody would look at them in an envious way and inwardly go
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see on FFL is Maharishi's fault
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com I think you are correct and I think it's pathological to insist that a chat room is not spiritual enough and then stay there dragging the place down instead of thinking of relevant contributions, especially when you have a ready made alternative just a mouse click away where all is sweetness and light. The word for it is, in fact, pathological. We've been pointing out to Steve and Doug (the only two of the 3 worth even bothering to try to interact with) for well over a year now, trying to get them to step back and realize that in all that time they haven't posted ANYTHING positive and spiritual to this supposedly spiritual forum they keep whining about. And they're *still* doing it, even though there is an alternative place to post where supposedly none of the obstacles to them revealing their spiritual sides exist. I think that anyone sane has to deduce from this that they don't actually *have* a spiritual side. They just like to bitch and harass people they consider their enemies. What a sad fuckin' life. Meanwhile, you and I and Michael and Anartaxius and aryavazhi and others they dump on have made dozens -- possibly hundreds -- of posts about spiritual topics. THEY HAVEN'T. I'm pointing this out so that it's right in their faces and they have to deal with it or lose all credibility whatsoever. I don't think any of them CAN post anything completely positive and spiritual at this point. They've dwelled so long in gray, lower-astral hate mindstates that they can't extract themselves from them. The need to stick around and bitch is symptomatic of something but I can't be bothered to do any research into it because it's so dull. I really hope there's no such thing as a life review when we die, because the three whining trolls here are going to really hate seeing how much of their lives they've spent saying the same thing over and over again. And to no effect. I wouldn't wish it on anyone. And one thing is really for sure, this aint spiritual behaviour. Or I read the wrong books. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : For some time now (over a year, and escalating after one particular person took a powder from the forum and essentially told everyone here to fuck off and die), the primary characteristic of the forum called Fairfield Life has IMO been whining. A few TM TBs, deprived of their version of Saint Joan to fight their battles for them against the invading hoard of infidels, tried to do the same thing themselves, and with disastrous results. Not being able to *stand* the fact that people who disagreed with them about the importance of TM, Maharishi, and above all their over-corpulent egos could express these thing freely here, they set about a non-stop snipe hunt in which they tried to demonize them and make them go away. That exercise in pettiness went so far that one of the constant heretic-attackers finally went over the line and resorted to actual slander -- he encouraged people to call or write officials in the home town of one poster he particularly hated, and tell them that he was a child molestor. Rightfully busted on this, he ran off with his tail between his legs and tried to form a new group, one in which supposedly right-thinking, *really* spiritual people like himself could talk about spirituality without being interrupted by horrible heretics like myself. It took less than a month for him to throw the first person off of his new forum, for the sin of revealing what he was up to back over on FFL, the forum he'd sworn he would never visit again as long as I was here. Go figure. What a fuckin' soap opera, right? So anyway, a few of these folks left, and started their own forum, one on which they can supposedly say anything they want about their so-called peak experiences, without anyone pissing in their cyberpunchbowl. One would think they'd be happy, and...uh...stay over there, where they claim things are so much better. But n. A hard-core few of them spend more time writing to Fairfield Life than they do The_Leak, saying essentially the same thing over and over and over: We don't like it over here, because a few people don't treat us with the respect we deserve when we talk about 'spiritual' topics. These people are BAD, and should be made to go away, so we can 'share' our spiritual experiences without fear of interruption or embarrassing demands for proof of our claims. Blah-blah-blah. You know the whine...you've heard it now for quite some time. My contention in this post is that the whining comes directly from how they were taught to act and live by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. HE was the one who taught these TM followers that the only safe way they could live in this world was to clump together in groups. If you were doing Maharishi's program correctly, you had to live in TM-only communities, reside in TM-approved houses, bounce on your butts
Re: [FairfieldLife] Ellison
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see on FFL is Maharishi's fault
He sounds very JELLOS of you Steve. You've obviously reached a whole new state of spiritual insight and you've got your own family and a successful business that is a going concern. Like I was telling Jim, enlightenment means being happy and enjoying success in all your desires and goals - the proof of the pudding is in the eating. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : certifiable at this point? Thanks for trying to help the poor TurqB. Where is Dr. Pete when we need him? Obviously he is trying to reach out. Some people feel better when they have someone to talk to. You may be his only connection with reality these days, Steve. He may be delusional at this point. Who knows what kind of deprivation and peer pressure he's going through over there at those leftist bohemian cafes. if anyone even reads it. Maybe you can understand now why they got kicked of the TMO - they suck as spiritual teachers. No new insight; they failed to reach enlightenment in 5-7 years, or even a decade. They produced zero enlightened students in three decades of spiritual teaching. They promised us a lot more than they could deliver - from enlightenment to flying and levitation. If they mislead us for all those years, who would believe anything they say now? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : For some time now (over a year, and escalating after one particular person took a powder from the forum and essentially told everyone here to fuck off and die), the primary characteristic of the forum called Fairfield Life has IMO been whining. A few TM TBs, deprived of their version of Saint Joan to fight their battles for them against the invading hoard of infidels, tried to do the same thing themselves, and with disastrous results. Not being able to *stand* the fact that people who disagreed with them about the importance of TM, Maharishi, and above all their over-corpulent egos could express these thing freely here, they set about a non-stop snipe hunt in which they tried to demonize them and make them go away. That exercise in pettiness went so far that one of the constant heretic-attackers finally went over the line and resorted to actual slander -- he encouraged people to call or write officials in the home town of one poster he particularly hated, and tell them that he was a child molestor. Rightfully busted on this, he ran off with his tail between his legs and tried to form a new group, one in which supposedly right-thinking, *really* spiritual people like himself could talk about spirituality without being interrupted by horrible heretics like myself. It took less than a month for him to throw the first person off of his new forum, for the sin of revealing what he was up to back over on FFL, the forum he'd sworn he would never visit again as long as I was here. Go figure. What a fuckin' soap opera, right? So anyway, a few of these folks left, and started their own forum, one on which they can supposedly say anything they want about their so-called peak experiences, without anyone pissing in their cyberpunchbowl. One would think they'd be happy, and...uh...stay over there, where they claim things are so much better. But n. A hard-core few of them spend more time writing to Fairfield Life than they do The_Leak, saying essentially the same thing over and over and over: We don't like it over here, because a few people don't treat us with the respect we deserve when we talk about 'spiritual' topics. These people are BAD, and should be made to go away, so we can 'share' our spiritual experiences without fear of interruption or embarrassing demands for proof of our claims. Blah-blah-blah. You know the whine...you've heard it now for quite some time. My contention in this post is that the whining comes directly from how they were taught to act and live by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. HE was the one who taught these TM followers that the only safe way they could live in this world was to clump together in groups. If you were doing Maharishi's program correctly, you had to live in TM-only communities, reside in TM-approved houses, bounce on your butts together several times a day, and participate in the sessions in which you share experiences and get them voted #1 experiences or #2 experiences or whatever. In those sharing sessions, there were always two sides to the sharing. A few people would have actual experiences to share, and if they were deemed #1 experiences, everybody would look at them in an envious way and inwardly go Woo!, and they'd actually get some attention. In the TMO, with its we-only-have-one-leader-and-he's-the-only-one-there-will-ever-be-allowed-to-become-the-focus-of-attention mentality, getting a little attention by talking about your spiritual experiences in one of these sharing sessions was pretty much the only attention you were ever going to get. The other side of the sharing
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment Story of Wayne Wirs
weird, just plain weird. agenda driven content for the kids. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : The quality that IMO most distinguishes the Neo-Advaitans (and some lesser dweebs like the ones we've run across on FFL before they ran away to form their own groups/religions) is self-sufficiency. NOT in the good sense of actually *being* self-sufficient, but in the sense of allowing for no other interpretation of the nature of reality than their own. Their word -- describing *their* subjective experience -- is all the proof you should need of their exalted status. It doesn't matter whether they contradict themselves from moment to moment, it doesn't matter whether their actions are the complete opposite of how they claim they live their lives -- the only thing that matters is the thing they said the most recently. That is Truth. Because they spake it. This, I believe, is one of the worst things Maharishi ever did for his followers -- convince them that their subjective experience is all they need to define being enlightened. There was never any external verification, because none is needed. You just know you're enlightened. And once you know, others should believe you, because...uh...because you said so, and what you say is Truth...because you're enlightened. So there. Neo-assholes, is more like it... From: yifuxero@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 2:45 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment Story of Wayne Wirs Almost all of the Batgappers (imo) are Neo or Pseudo-Advaitins, the characteristerics of which are described in several excellent websites, if you google Neo-Advaita. They have numerous common qualities, but it best serves us to provide some examples then identify the quallities of Neo-Advaita from there - examples, Gangaji and Andrew Cohen. Many of them were devotees of HWL Poonja, but by now there is a new crop of them, growing like bacteria or mold on an old orange.:
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see on FFL is Maharishi's fault
As Antonio Salieri would say... too many notes! From: steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 7:12 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see on FFL is Maharishi's fault certifiable at this point? if anyone even reads it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : For some time now (over a year, and escalating after one particular person took a powder from the forum and essentially told everyone here to fuck off and die), the primary characteristic of the forum called Fairfield Life has IMO been whining. A few TM TBs, deprived of their version of Saint Joan to fight their battles for them against the invading hoard of infidels, tried to do the same thing themselves, and with disastrous results. Not being able to *stand* the fact that people who disagreed with them about the importance of TM, Maharishi, and above all their over-corpulent egos could express these thing freely here, they set about a non-stop snipe hunt in which they tried to demonize them and make them go away. That exercise in pettiness went so far that one of the constant heretic-attackers finally went over the line and resorted to actual slander -- he encouraged people to call or write officials in the home town of one poster he particularly hated, and tell them that he was a child molestor. Rightfully busted on this, he ran off with his tail between his legs and tried to form a new group, one in which supposedly right-thinking, *really* spiritual people like himself could talk about spirituality without being interrupted by horrible heretics like myself. It took less than a month for him to throw the first person off of his new forum, for the sin of revealing what he was up to back over on FFL, the forum he'd sworn he would never visit again as long as I was here. Go figure. What a fuckin' soap opera, right? So anyway, a few of these folks left, and started their own forum, one on which they can supposedly say anything they want about their so-called peak experiences, without anyone pissing in their cyberpunchbowl. One would think they'd be happy, and...uh...stay over there, where they claim things are so much better. But n. A hard-core few of them spend more time writing to Fairfield Life than they do The_Leak, saying essentially the same thing over and over and over: We don't like it over here, because a few people don't treat us with the respect we deserve when we talk about 'spiritual' topics. These people are BAD, and should be made to go away, so we can 'share' our spiritual experiences without fear of interruption or embarrassing demands for proof of our claims. Blah-blah-blah. You know the whine...you've heard it now for quite some time. My contention in this post is that the whining comes directly from how they were taught to act and live by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. HE was the one who taught these TM followers that the only safe way they could live in this world was to clump together in groups. If you were doing Maharishi's program correctly, you had to live in TM-only communities, reside in TM-approved houses, bounce on your butts together several times a day, and participate in the sessions in which you share experiences and get them voted #1 experiences or #2 experiences or whatever. In those sharing sessions, there were always two sides to the sharing. A few people would have actual experiences to share, and if they were deemed #1 experiences, everybody would look at them in an envious way and inwardly go Woo!, and they'd actually get some attention. In the TMO, with its we-only-have-one-leader-and-he's-the-only-one-there-will-ever-be-allowed-to-become-the-focus-of-attention mentality, getting a little attention by talking about your spiritual experiences in one of these sharing sessions was pretty much the only attention you were ever going to get. The other side of the sharing experience was personified by the much larger vast majority of people who never had anything to share. THEY were there because many of them had never really ever HAD a major spiritual experience, and they needed to hear other people talk about *theirs* so as not to lose hope. It was the same rationale as all the TM research -- even if you had never had any experiences in decades of meditating that felt like the enlightenment you were promised, you could still have hope if you heard other people talking about *their* experiences or saw some chart that suggested they were actually *having* experiences. Now think about Fairfield Life. Same thing. Same dynamic. Sure, when Rick started the forum, it was intended as a safe forum for people who had gripes with the TMO to express them, and some of that has determined the character and the nature of the forum ever since. But for a smaller number of FFL participants, this was a place
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment Story of Wayne Wirs
Obviously we're not dealing here with informants that have had any spiritual experience, Steve. So, it will hardly be surprising to see them sending messages that don't make any sense. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : weird, just plain weird. Apparently there are only three non-dualists still subscribing and posting to this list. It looks like the TurqB has succumbed to rank dualism and the other informant is a materialist. You can hardly blame them for not understanding transcendental idealism. agenda driven content for the kids. There is no consciousness other than consciousness, or not. It's not complicated. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : The quality that IMO most distinguishes the Neo-Advaitans (and some lesser dweebs like the ones we've run across on FFL before they ran away to form their own groups/religions) is self-sufficiency. NOT in the good sense of actually *being* self-sufficient, but in the sense of allowing for no other interpretation of the nature of reality than their own. Their word -- describing *their* subjective experience -- is all the proof you should need of their exalted status. It doesn't matter whether they contradict themselves from moment to moment, it doesn't matter whether their actions are the complete opposite of how they claim they live their lives -- the only thing that matters is the thing they said the most recently. That is Truth. Because they spake it. This, I believe, is one of the worst things Maharishi ever did for his followers -- convince them that their subjective experience is all they need to define being enlightened. There was never any external verification, because none is needed. You just know you're enlightened. And once you know, others should believe you, because...uh...because you said so, and what you say is Truth...because you're enlightened. So there. Neo-assholes, is more like it... From: yifuxero@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 2:45 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment Story of Wayne Wirs Almost all of the Batgappers (imo) are Neo or Pseudo-Advaitins, the characteristerics of which are described in several excellent websites, if you google Neo-Advaita. They have numerous common qualities, but it best serves us to provide some examples then identify the quallities of Neo-Advaita from there - examples, Gangaji and Andrew Cohen. Many of them were devotees of HWL Poonja, but by now there is a new crop of them, growing like bacteria or mold on an old orange.: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : The quality that IMO most distinguishes the Neo-Advaitans (and some lesser dweebs like the ones we've run across on FFL before they ran away to form their own groups/religions) is self-sufficiency. NOT in the good sense of actually *being* self-sufficient, but in the sense of allowing for no other interpretation of the nature of reality than their own. Their word -- describing *their* subjective experience -- is all the proof you should need of their exalted status. It doesn't matter whether they contradict themselves from moment to moment, it doesn't matter whether their actions are the complete opposite of how they claim they live their lives -- the only thing that matters is the thing they said the most recently. That is Truth. Because they spake it. This, I believe, is one of the worst things Maharishi ever did for his followers -- convince them that their subjective experience is all they need to define being enlightened. There was never any external verification, because none is needed. You just know you're enlightened. And once you know, others should believe you, because...uh...because you said so, and what you say is Truth...because you're enlightened. So there. Neo-assholes, is more like it... From: yifuxero@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 2:45 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment Story of Wayne Wirs Almost all of the Batgappers (imo) are Neo or Pseudo-Advaitins, the characteristerics of which are described in several excellent websites, if you google Neo-Advaita. They have numerous common qualities, but it best serves us to provide some examples then identify the quallities of Neo-Advaita from there - examples, Gangaji and Andrew Cohen. Many of them were devotees of HWL Poonja, but by now there is a new crop of them, growing like bacteria or mold on an old orange.:
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see on FFL is Maharishi's fault
Yeah but look who he was saying it about. :-) But I understand...some people have short attention spans, and can't read more than 30 words. This post is for them. :-) From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 4:14 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see on FFL is Maharishi's fault As Antonio Salieri would say... too many notes! From: steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 7:12 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see on FFL is Maharishi's fault certifiable at this point? if anyone even reads it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : For some time now (over a year, and escalating after one particular person took a powder from the forum and essentially told everyone here to fuck off and die), the primary characteristic of the forum called Fairfield Life has IMO been whining. A few TM TBs, deprived of their version of Saint Joan to fight their battles for them against the invading hoard of infidels, tried to do the same thing themselves, and with disastrous results. Not being able to *stand* the fact that people who disagreed with them about the importance of TM, Maharishi, and above all their over-corpulent egos could express these thing freely here, they set about a non-stop snipe hunt in which they tried to demonize them and make them go away. That exercise in pettiness went so far that one of the constant heretic-attackers finally went over the line and resorted to actual slander -- he encouraged people to call or write officials in the home town of one poster he particularly hated, and tell them that he was a child molestor. Rightfully busted on this, he ran off with his tail between his legs and tried to form a new group, one in which supposedly right-thinking, *really* spiritual people like himself could talk about spirituality without being interrupted by horrible heretics like myself. It took less than a month for him to throw the first person off of his new forum, for the sin of revealing what he was up to back over on FFL, the forum he'd sworn he would never visit again as long as I was here. Go figure. What a fuckin' soap opera, right? So anyway, a few of these folks left, and started their own forum, one on which they can supposedly say anything they want about their so-called peak experiences, without anyone pissing in their cyberpunchbowl. One would think they'd be happy, and...uh...stay over there, where they claim things are so much better. But n. A hard-core few of them spend more time writing to Fairfield Life than they do The_Leak, saying essentially the same thing over and over and over: We don't like it over here, because a few people don't treat us with the respect we deserve when we talk about 'spiritual' topics. These people are BAD, and should be made to go away, so we can 'share' our spiritual experiences without fear of interruption or embarrassing demands for proof of our claims. Blah-blah-blah. You know the whine...you've heard it now for quite some time. My contention in this post is that the whining comes directly from how they were taught to act and live by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. HE was the one who taught these TM followers that the only safe way they could live in this world was to clump together in groups. If you were doing Maharishi's program correctly, you had to live in TM-only communities, reside in TM-approved houses, bounce on your butts together several times a day, and participate in the sessions in which you share experiences and get them voted #1 experiences or #2 experiences or whatever. In those sharing sessions, there were always two sides to the sharing. A few people would have actual experiences to share, and if they were deemed #1 experiences, everybody would look at them in an envious way and inwardly go Woo!, and they'd actually get some attention. In the TMO, with its we-only-have-one-leader-and-he's-the-only-one-there-will-ever-be-allowed-to-become-the-focus-of-attention mentality, getting a little attention by talking about your spiritual experiences in one of these sharing sessions was pretty much the only attention you were ever going to get. The other side of the sharing experience was personified by the much larger vast majority of people who never had anything to share. THEY were there because many of them had never really ever HAD a major spiritual experience, and they needed to hear other people talk about *theirs* so as not to lose hope. It was the same rationale as all the TM research -- even if you had never had any experiences in decades of meditating that felt like the enlightenment you were promised, you could still have hope if
[FairfieldLife] Re: Freedom Summit
RENO, Nev. — Jeb Bush came face-to-face here Wednesday with the perils of carrying a politically divisive family name, skirmishing with voters over the Iraq war and continuing to struggle with how to differentiate himself from his brother... On Iraq question, Jeb Bush stumbles and the GOP hopefuls pounce http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/on-iraq-question-jeb-bush-stumbles-and-his-gop-rivals-pounce/2015/05/13/05dccac4-f97c-11e4-a13c-193b1241d51a_story.html http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/on-iraq-question-jeb-bush-stumbles-and-his-gop-rivals-pounce/2015/05/13/05dccac4-f97c-11e4-a13c-193b1241d51a_story.html On Iraq question, Jeb Bush stumbles and the GOP hop... http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/on-iraq-question-jeb-bush-stumbles-and-his-gop-rivals-pounce/2015/05/13/05dccac4-f97c-11e4-a13c-193b1241d51a_story.html The former Florida governor still struggles with how to handle — and differentiate himself from — his brother’s legacy. View on www.washingtonpos... http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/on-iraq-question-jeb-bush-stumbles-and-his-gop-rivals-pounce/2015/05/13/05dccac4-f97c-11e4-a13c-193b1241d51a_story.html Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote : Foriegn policy will probably be the big issue in the next U.S. presidential election. We will examine all aspects in the coming debates and they better have a good plan to protect America, considering that the enemies of the open society are are already at the gates and working from the inside. Laying out a hawkish foreign policy vision repudiating the Obama era, Sen. Marco Rubio declared in Manhattan today that America’s physical and ideological strength had “deteriorated” since Mr. Obama took office in 2009... Marco Rubio Says America's Physical Strength Has 'Deteriorated' Under Obama http://observer.com/2015/05/marco-rubio-says-americas-physical-strength-has-deteriorated-under-obama/ http://observer.com/2015/05/marco-rubio-says-americas-physical-strength-has-deteriorated-under-obama/ Marco Rubio Says America's Physical Strength Has ... http://observer.com/2015/05/marco-rubio-says-americas-physical-strength-has-deteriorated-under-obama/ Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida laid out his foreign policy vision in Manhattan today. View on observer.com http://observer.com/2015/05/marco-rubio-says-americas-physical-strength-has-deteriorated-under-obama/ Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote : OMG! The likely Republican presidential candidate will instead attend a competing event, the RedState Gathering in Atlanta, the day of the Iowa event, GOP sources in Iowa told The Des Moines Register... Jeb Bush to skip Iowa Straw Poll http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2015/05/12/jeb-bush-skip-iowa-straw-poll/27187589/ http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2015/05/12/jeb-bush-skip-iowa-straw-poll/27187589/ Jeb Bush to skip Iowa Straw Poll http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2015/05/12/jeb-bush-skip-iowa-straw-poll/27187589/ Jeb Bush will instead attend a competing GOP event in Atlanta. View on www.desmoinesregis... http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2015/05/12/jeb-bush-skip-iowa-straw-poll/27187589/ Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote : “I really think this is going to be a national security election, really for the first time since 2004,” said Sam Clovis, a college professor and influential political activist in Iowa. Perry sets focus on military, foreign policy http://www.expressnews.com/news/local/article/Perry-sets-focus-on-military-foreign-policy-6254791.php http://www.expressnews.com/news/local/article/Perry-sets-focus-on-military-foreign-policy-6254791.php Perry sets focus on military, foreign policy http://www.expressnews.com/news/local/article/Perry-sets-focus-on-military-foreign-policy-6254791.php AUSTIN — For 14 years, Rick Perry led the biggest Republican state in America, spearheading dozens of tax cuts, landmark tort reform and some of the na... View on www.expressnews.com http://www.expressnews.com/news/local/article/Perry-sets-focus-on-military-foreign-policy-6254791.php Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote : “There's no clear Republican front-runner in the New Hampshire presidential nominating contest, while Hillary Clinton retains an overwhelming advantage among Democrats in the Granite State's first-in-the-nation primary.” New Hampshire Poll: New Hampshire Poll: Republican Field Tightens, Hillary Clinton Still Out in Front Among Democrats http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-05-10/new-hampshire-poll-republican-field-tightens-hillary-clinton-still-out-in-front-among-democrats
[FairfieldLife] The rent Is too damn high!
Fees, regulations drive up housing costs http://www.mysanantonio.com/opinion/commentary/article/Fees-regulations-drive-up-housing-costs-6261627.php http://www.mysanantonio.com/opinion/commentary/article/Fees-regulations-drive-up-housing-costs-6261627.php Fees, regulations drive up housing costs http://www.mysanantonio.com/opinion/commentary/article/Fees-regulations-drive-up-housing-costs-6261627.php San Antonio has historically been attractive to homebuyers and renters because of affordability and a thriving job market. A typical response is to call fo... View on www.mysanantonio... http://www.mysanantonio.com/opinion/commentary/article/Fees-regulations-drive-up-housing-costs-6261627.php Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Sometimes you need an infographic to understand the problem
Another powerful infographic:
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: God speaketh...
Never pass up an opportunity to use a tragedy if you think it will help you win a religious debate. Today let's rag on the Christians. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Indeed. The whole schtick -- the things people believe in the name of religion -- is just so funny when you think of it. Just yesterday I stumbled upon an old comedy routine by the late Bill Hicks, in which he said (paraphrasing), Non sequitur. Why is it that Christians wear crosses around their necks. In reality, there are crosses everywhere in nature, everywhere two lines intersect. The cross has nothing to do with the return of Jesus for Christians. You made that up. Do they really think that is what Jesus wants to see, and that will make him return? You should probably avoid subjects that you know nothing about. Christians believe in John: 3:16. Everyone knows that Barry. Get some smarts. I mean, it's like walking up to Jackie Kennedy wearing a tiny sniper's rifle on a chain around your neck and saying 'Hey Jackie...I just wanted to tell you how much I loved John.' Non sequitur. From: s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 3:15 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: God speaketh... That is the most succinct summary of what most Christians have taken as gospel it deserves a place in the Oxford Dictionary of Quotations. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see on FFL is Maharishi's fault
That's what I'm taking about! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : As Antonio Salieri would say... too many notes! From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 7:12 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see on FFL is Maharishi's fault certifiable at this point? if anyone even reads it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : For some time now (over a year, and escalating after one particular person took a powder from the forum and essentially told everyone here to fuck off and die), the primary characteristic of the forum called Fairfield Life has IMO been whining. A few TM TBs, deprived of their version of Saint Joan to fight their battles for them against the invading hoard of infidels, tried to do the same thing themselves, and with disastrous results. Not being able to *stand* the fact that people who disagreed with them about the importance of TM, Maharishi, and above all their over-corpulent egos could express these thing freely here, they set about a non-stop snipe hunt in which they tried to demonize them and make them go away. That exercise in pettiness went so far that one of the constant heretic-attackers finally went over the line and resorted to actual slander -- he encouraged people to call or write officials in the home town of one poster he particularly hated, and tell them that he was a child molestor. Rightfully busted on this, he ran off with his tail between his legs and tried to form a new group, one in which supposedly right-thinking, *really* spiritual people like himself could talk about spirituality without being interrupted by horrible heretics like myself. It took less than a month for him to throw the first person off of his new forum, for the sin of revealing what he was up to back over on FFL, the forum he'd sworn he would never visit again as long as I was here. Go figure. What a fuckin' soap opera, right? So anyway, a few of these folks left, and started their own forum, one on which they can supposedly say anything they want about their so-called peak experiences, without anyone pissing in their cyberpunchbowl. One would think they'd be happy, and...uh...stay over there, where they claim things are so much better. But n. A hard-core few of them spend more time writing to Fairfield Life than they do The_Leak, saying essentially the same thing over and over and over: We don't like it over here, because a few people don't treat us with the respect we deserve when we talk about 'spiritual' topics. These people are BAD, and should be made to go away, so we can 'share' our spiritual experiences without fear of interruption or embarrassing demands for proof of our claims. Blah-blah-blah. You know the whine...you've heard it now for quite some time. My contention in this post is that the whining comes directly from how they were taught to act and live by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. HE was the one who taught these TM followers that the only safe way they could live in this world was to clump together in groups. If you were doing Maharishi's program correctly, you had to live in TM-only communities, reside in TM-approved houses, bounce on your butts together several times a day, and participate in the sessions in which you share experiences and get them voted #1 experiences or #2 experiences or whatever. In those sharing sessions, there were always two sides to the sharing. A few people would have actual experiences to share, and if they were deemed #1 experiences, everybody would look at them in an envious way and inwardly go Woo!, and they'd actually get some attention. In the TMO, with its we-only-have-one-leader-and-he's-the-only-one-there-will-ever-be-allowed-to-become-the-focus-of-attention mentality, getting a little attention by talking about your spiritual experiences in one of these sharing sessions was pretty much the only attention you were ever going to get. The other side of the sharing experience was personified by the much larger vast majority of people who never had anything to share. THEY were there because many of them had never really ever HAD a major spiritual experience, and they needed to hear other people talk about *theirs* so as not to lose hope. It was the same rationale as all the TM research -- even if you had never had any experiences in decades of meditating that felt like the enlightenment you were promised, you could still have hope if you heard other people talking about *their* experiences or saw some chart that suggested they were actually *having* experiences. Now think about Fairfield Life. Same thing. Same dynamic. Sure, when Rick started the forum, it was intended as a safe forum for people who had gripes with the TMO to express them, and some of that has determined the character and the
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Philip K Dick Speech
The problem is, that with such a limited knowledge that humans like you have, you wouldn't know if you saw a replicant, if it was human. You don't even know for sure if you are dreaming or not. There is not one single experience that humans participate in that could not be experience in a dream. In dreams, doors are doors and tables are tables; you can run and jump and consultwith yourfriends. In dreams, doors are doors and tables are tables; in dreams you can run and jump and consult your friends. The replicants in 'Blade Runner', based on the book by Phillip Dick, (Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep), are created to exactly resemble humans. In San Francisco post WWT there is often confusion whether a humanoid is real or an android. Bounty hunters and others use the Voigt-Kampff test to distinguish humans from replicants. This brings up the question of human consciousness, robot consciousness, and how they are similar and different from us thinking humanoids. The main theme of Phillip K. Dick's novel concerns similarity and difference; sentient robots that look identical to humans, but are not human at all. The central question is whether or not we can spot replicants in order to retire them. Looming in the background is the question: is Deckard himself a replicant? Thinking like a replicant is the way Deckard explores his own consciousness and humanity. Replicants, that is, androids, make Deckard realize that he might not be so human after all. He actually becomes more inhuman than the replicants he is remorselessly hunting!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tomorrow's world yesterday...
We call them hot tubs over here - apparently Jacuzzi is a brand name. Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Now I know what's missing from my life: an oscillating bath tub. How come these never made it into production? Imagining the future: early 20th century US patents - in pictures http://www.theguardian.com/technology/gallery/2015/may/14/imagining-the-future-turn-of-the-century-us-patents-in-pictures http://www.theguardian.com/technology/gallery/2015/may/14/imagining-the-future-turn-of-the-century-us-patents-in-pictures Imagining the future: early 20th century US patents - in... http://www.theguardian.com/technology/gallery/2015/may/14/imagining-the-future-turn-of-the-century-us-patents-in-pictures Historic patents from the early 20th century show how aspiring inventors predicted that humans would fly View on www.theguardian.com http://www.theguardian.com/technology/gallery/2015/may/14/imagining-the-future-turn-of-the-century-us-patents-in-pictures Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Powerful Stuff
Fabulous Thunderbirds - Powerful Stuff (Jimmie Vaughan) https://youtu.be/CaEHFxlmf-k https://youtu.be/CaEHFxlmf-k Fabulous Thunderbirds - Powerful Stuff (Jimmie Va... https://youtu.be/CaEHFxlmf-k I loved this performance so much, I had to find it on the net when it disappeared on youtube and re-upload it for all to see. This is Jimmie's best performan... View on youtu.be https://youtu.be/CaEHFxlmf-k Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: A cool, shiny, and...dare I say it...spiritual moment
We had just read A Separate Reality by Carlos Castaneda so we we down to Mexico to search for etheogens. We didn't find any magic mushrooms growing in the wild. However, at a party, someone, probably don Juan, gave me a taco to eat that was laced with 'fly agaric'. When I realized what I had just eaten, I almost gagged on the spot. I've always been a Cactus man, chased with Tequila. Anyway, although I spit out the offending fungus right away, it was too late; the psychoactive ingredients were already taking their effect on me: to alter my very state of consciousness. Suddenly, all at once, in a flash of enlightenment, I transcended and I saw and experienced the entire cosmos as a Divine Bi-Unity, inter-related, just like the Net of Lord Indra. I realized that we are all inter-connected. I became enlightened on the spot. Then, standing right in front of me hovering in mid-air appeared the Creator God of Volcanoes El and His wife, the beautiful Wisdom Sophia, their son Baal, and their daughter Ashley. I realized that existence, is, in Reality, a great big family affair! http://jot.sagepub.com/content/38/4/387.abstract http://jot.sagepub.com/content/38/4/387.abstract ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Since I've been chiding a couple of slackers for considering this a spiritual forum but never posting about any of their own spiritual moments, I think it's only fair that I post one of mine. This is a short cafe rap from a few days ago. Paris A spiritual teacher I once worked with taught me something interesting about the nature of time. It's that some moments in the past are so cool and so shiny that they're not really IN the past. They're still happening, on some cool, shiny eternal level, and if you know how you can access them and tap into something of the cool, shiny state of mind you were wearing during the original moment. Today in this cafe I'm accessing a few such cool, shiny moments spent walking with a silly, black, snaggle-toothed dog named Paris. 15 years ago, a friend found him in an animal shelter in Santa Fe, and his snaggle tooth was irresistible, so she brought him home. I was his first babysitter, and walked with him many times through the fragrant New Mexico countryside, which he clearly believed to be Sniff Heaven. Later I walked the same Paris the dog through Paris the city, when we all moved there. Paris loved walking through the Champs de Mars and took particular pleasure in peeing on the Eiffel Tower. A few years later we all moved again to a tiny village in the south of France, so Paris and I had many cool, shiny walks on cobblestoned medieval streets. And still later, moving to Sitges, Spain, Paris lived with me because I had a big back yard, and I took him on at least two walks a day along the boardwalk. We'd always go there because Paris liked to look at the topless female humans frolicking on the beach. At least that's what he told me psychically when I'd ask why he always wanted to go there. Since that time we've walked in many more cool, shiny places here in the Netherlands. And today we took our last walk together in here-and-now time, because the vet said that his kidney failure was near-total, and that it was time for him to move on. I'm sitting in my favorite writing cafe now, having just come from the vet, and that moving on ceremony. On a here-and-now level, I guess you'd expect me to feel pretty fuckin' bummed. Strangely, I don't. Sitting here in the sun, meditating on many of my past cool, shiny moments with Paris, I find that they're all still there. I can access them any time I want, just by shifting my attention to them. And when I do, that same cool, shiny state of mind we wore on the original walk washes over me, and I wear it again. There is much smiling and woofing. A song lyric written by one of my favorite singer/songwriters (and first real hero in this lifetime) Richard Fariña pops into my mind, as forcefully as if it were demanding to be taken as a koan. So I present it as one: The gardens we share are never alone. Joan Baez ALL THE WORLD HAS GONE BY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uV6IUq61Hl4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uV6IUq61Hl4 Joan Baez ALL THE WORLD HAS GONE BY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uV6IUq61Hl4 View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uV6IUq61Hl4 Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] A Philip K Dick Speech
I can sorta relate to what PKD is talking about because I sometimes when I have fallen asleep late at night on the futon (yes, I still have one of those) in the living room when I wake up the room doesn't quite look the same. A few seconds later it does but this has happened enumerable times. And then along PKD's theme we have Salyvin's buddy, Mr. David the queen is a reptilian Icke on the world as a holographic projection. https://youtu.be/lrADlTxgYVQ This is a theme I've been on since I was a kid bugging my parents that I had no proof of what I was experiencing was real since it was all experienced in my head. In other watches I highly recommend to Netflixers The Liberator which is the story of Simon Bolivar. This is a well crafted film about a personality most Americans know little about and as a friend said yesterday South America went a different route than the US but that's because Spain conquered there and oppressed the natives. He was way ahead of his time and probably reincarnated as Bernie Sanders. Also I recommend Extraterrestrials available on Netflix. This is the movie Spielberg should have made rather than the cutesy one. It too is well crafted as a cabin in the woods type of tail that takes a turn for the worse after a UFO crashes nearby. https://youtu.be/CXDhXQrLtMU Nabby would be jealous. On 05/13/2015 11:32 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: */Great find. Here's my friend Robert's graphical version of the story PKD tells at the first link:/* */ /* */http://www.philipkdickfans.com/weirdo.htm/* *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, May 14, 2015 3:16 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] A Philip K Dick Speech Would PKD love FFL? Did Philip K. Dick disclose the real Matrix in 1977? https://youtu.be/jXeVgEs4sOo Interview: Hour 25 - Philip K. Dick - Interview https://youtu.be/aFhsDUAZ6Co Nah, probably not. We are not worthy. ;-) image https://youtu.be/jXeVgEs4sOo Did Philip K. Dick disclose the real Matrix in 1977? https://youtu.be/jXeVgEs4sOo View on youtu.be https://youtu.be/jXeVgEs4sOo Preview by Yahoo image https://youtu.be/aFhsDUAZ6Co Hour 25 - Philip K. Dick - Interview https://youtu.be/aFhsDUAZ6Co View on youtu.be https://youtu.be/aFhsDUAZ6Co Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] A cool, shiny, and...dare I say it...spiritual moment
Since I've been chiding a couple of slackers for considering this a spiritual forum but never posting about any of their own spiritual moments, I think it's only fair that I post one of mine. This is a short cafe rap from a few days ago. Paris A spiritual teacher I once worked with taught me something interesting about the nature of time. It's that some moments in the past are so cool and so shiny that they're not really IN the past. They're still happening, on some cool, shiny eternal level, and if you know how you can access them and tap into something of the cool, shiny state of mind you were wearing during the original moment. Today in this cafe I'm accessing a few such cool, shiny moments spent walking with a silly, black, snaggle-toothed dog named Paris. 15 years ago, a friend found him in an animal shelter in Santa Fe, and his snaggle tooth was irresistible, so she brought him home. I was his first babysitter, and walked with him many times through the fragrant New Mexico countryside, which he clearly believed to be Sniff Heaven. Later I walked the same Paris the dog through Paris the city, when we all moved there. Paris loved walking through the Champs de Mars and took particular pleasure in peeing on the Eiffel Tower. A few years later we all moved again to a tiny village in the south of France, so Paris and I had many cool, shiny walks on cobblestoned medieval streets. And still later, moving to Sitges, Spain, Paris lived with me because I had a big back yard, and I took him on at least two walks a day along the boardwalk. We'd always go there because Paris liked to look at the topless female humans frolicking on the beach. At least that's what he told me psychically when I'd ask why he always wanted to go there. Since that time we've walked in many more cool, shiny places here in the Netherlands. And today we took our last walk together in here-and-now time, because the vet said that his kidney failure was near-total, and that it was time for him to move on. I'm sitting in my favorite writing cafe now, having just come from the vet, and that moving on ceremony. On a here-and-now level, I guess you'd expect me to feel pretty fuckin' bummed. Strangely, I don't. Sitting here in the sun, meditating on many of my past cool, shiny moments with Paris, I find that they're all still there. I can access them any time I want, just by shifting my attention to them. And when I do, that same cool, shiny state of mind we wore on the original walk washes over me, and I wear it again. There is much smiling and woofing. A song lyric written by one of my favorite singer/songwriters (and first real hero in this lifetime) Richard Fariña pops into my mind, as forcefully as if it were demanding to be taken as a koan. So I present it as one: The gardens we share are never alone. Joan Baez ALL THE WORLD HAS GONE BY | | | | | | | | | | | Joan Baez ALL THE WORLD HAS GONE BY | | | | View on www.youtube.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | |
Re: [FairfieldLife] A Philip K Dick Speech
Correction Extraterrestrial is the film. Not had my morning espresso yet. On 05/14/2015 08:56 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: I can sorta relate to what PKD is talking about because I sometimes when I have fallen asleep late at night on the futon (yes, I still have one of those) in the living room when I wake up the room doesn't quite look the same. A few seconds later it does but this has happened enumerable times. And then along PKD's theme we have Salyvin's buddy, Mr. David the queen is a reptilian Icke on the world as a holographic projection. https://youtu.be/lrADlTxgYVQ This is a theme I've been on since I was a kid bugging my parents that I had no proof of what I was experiencing was real since it was all experienced in my head. In other watches I highly recommend to Netflixers The Liberator which is the story of Simon Bolivar. This is a well crafted film about a personality most Americans know little about and as a friend said yesterday South America went a different route than the US but that's because Spain conquered there and oppressed the natives. He was way ahead of his time and probably reincarnated as Bernie Sanders. Also I recommend Extraterrestrials available on Netflix. This is the movie Spielberg should have made rather than the cutesy one. It too is well crafted as a cabin in the woods type of tail that takes a turn for the worse after a UFO crashes nearby. https://youtu.be/CXDhXQrLtMU Nabby would be jealous. On 05/13/2015 11:32 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: */Great find. Here's my friend Robert's graphical version of the story PKD tells at the first link:/* */ /* */http://www.philipkdickfans.com/weirdo.htm/* *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, May 14, 2015 3:16 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] A Philip K Dick Speech Would PKD love FFL? Did Philip K. Dick disclose the real Matrix in 1977? https://youtu.be/jXeVgEs4sOo Interview: Hour 25 - Philip K. Dick - Interview https://youtu.be/aFhsDUAZ6Co Nah, probably not. We are not worthy. ;-) image https://youtu.be/jXeVgEs4sOo Did Philip K. Dick disclose the real Matrix in 1977? https://youtu.be/jXeVgEs4sOo View on youtu.be https://youtu.be/jXeVgEs4sOo Preview by Yahoo image https://youtu.be/aFhsDUAZ6Co Hour 25 - Philip K. Dick - Interview https://youtu.be/aFhsDUAZ6Co View on youtu.be https://youtu.be/aFhsDUAZ6Co Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] A Philip K Dick Speech
The only proof that you have about anything is that you are conscious and therefore self-conscious that you exist. The problem isn't proving the existence of consciousness; the problem is proving the existence of anything else. Consciousness is private and cannot be shared by others - it is the very constructed character of knowing. Without being conscious you are nothing. Knowledge is structured in consciousness. - MMY ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : This is a theme I've been on since I was a kid bugging my parents that I had no proof of what I was experiencing was real since it was all experienced in my head. According to Wilber, consciousness is a spectrum. Ordinary awareness is at one end, and more profound types of awareness are found at higher levels. The Blackwell Companion to Consciousness: Consciousness—The having of perceptions, thoughts, and feelings; awareness. 'The Spectrum of Consciousness' by Ken Wilber pp. 3–16 On 05/13/2015 11:32 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Great find. Here's my friend Robert's graphical version of the story PKD tells at the first link: http://www.philipkdickfans.com/weirdo.htm http://www.philipkdickfans.com/weirdo.htm From: Bhairitu noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 3:16 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] A Philip K Dick Speech Would PKD love FFL? Did Philip K. Dick disclose the real Matrix in 1977? Interview: Hour 25 - Philip K. Dick - Interview Nah, probably not. We are not worthy. ;-) https://youtu.be/jXeVgEs4sOo; class=ygrps-yiv-260826012link-enhancr-card-urlWrapper ygrps-yiv-260826012link-enhancr-element Did Philip K. Dick disclose the real Matrix in 1977? View on youtu.be Preview by Yahoo https://youtu.be/aFhsDUAZ6Co; class=ygrps-yiv-260826012link-enhancr-card-urlWrapper ygrps-yiv-260826012link-enhancr-element Hour 25 - Philip K. Dick - Interview View on youtu.be Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : This is a theme I've been on since I was a kid bugging my parents that I had no proof of what I was experiencing was real since it was all experienced in my head. For some TMers the most thorough account of the spiritual approach may be Ken Wilber's book The Spectrum of Consciousness. Wilber compares western and eastern ways of thinking about the mind and consciousness. According to Wilber, consciousness is a spectrum. Ordinary awareness is at one end, and more profound types of awareness are found at higher levels. The Blackwell Companion to Consciousness: Consciousness—The having of perceptions, thoughts, and feelings; awareness. 'The Spectrum of Consciousness' by Ken Wilber pp. 3–16 On 05/13/2015 11:32 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Great find. Here's my friend Robert's graphical version of the story PKD tells at the first link: http://www.philipkdickfans.com/weirdo.htm http://www.philipkdickfans.com/weirdo.htm From: Bhairitu noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 3:16 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] A Philip K Dick Speech Would PKD love FFL? Did Philip K. Dick disclose the real Matrix in 1977? Interview: Hour 25 - Philip K. Dick - Interview Nah, probably not. We are not worthy. ;-) https://youtu.be/jXeVgEs4sOo; class=ygrps-yiv-260826012link-enhancr-card-urlWrapper ygrps-yiv-260826012link-enhancr-element Did Philip K. Dick disclose the real Matrix in 1977? View on youtu.be Preview by Yahoo https://youtu.be/aFhsDUAZ6Co; class=ygrps-yiv-260826012link-enhancr-card-urlWrapper ygrps-yiv-260826012link-enhancr-element Hour 25 - Philip K. Dick - Interview View on youtu.be Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see on FFL is Maharishi's fault
I don't think it is short attention spans but time to read it. We see long posts and think I'll read that later. Nobody's posts on FFL are *so important* that they need to be read immediately, are they? I mean that would be a narcissistic trait of the poster if there ever was one. And BTW, it was Jeffery Jones character Emperoro Joseph II, who says too many notes in the film Amadeus not Salieri. Another damn film I need to find a BD of as my DVD was letterboxed instead of anamorphic. On 05/14/2015 07:21 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: */Yeah but look who he was saying it about. :-)/* */But I understand...some people have short attention spans, and can't read more than 30 words. This post is for them. :-) /* *From:* Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, May 14, 2015 4:14 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see on FFL is Maharishi's fault As Antonio Salieri would say... too many notes! *From:* steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, May 14, 2015 7:12 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see on FFL is Maharishi's fault certifiable at this point? if anyone even reads it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : */For some time now (over a year, and escalating after one particular person took a powder from the forum and essentially told everyone here to fuck off and die), the primary characteristic of the forum called Fairfield Life has IMO been whining. A few TM TBs, deprived of their version of Saint Joan to fight their battles for them against the invading hoard of infidels, tried to do the same thing themselves, and with disastrous results. Not being able to *stand* the fact that people who disagreed with them about the importance of TM, Maharishi, and above all their over-corpulent egos could express these thing freely here, they set about a non-stop snipe hunt in which they tried to demonize them and make them go away. That exercise in pettiness went so far that one of the constant heretic-attackers finally went over the line and resorted to actual slander -- he encouraged people to call or write officials in the home town of one poster he particularly hated, and tell them that he was a child molestor. Rightfully busted on this, he ran off with his tail between his legs and tried to form a new group, one in which supposedly right-thinking, *really* spiritual people like himself could talk about spirituality without being interrupted by horrible heretics like myself. It took less than a month for him to throw the first person off of his new forum, for the sin of revealing what he was up to back over on FFL, the forum he'd sworn he would never visit again as long as I was here. Go figure. What a fuckin' soap opera, right? So anyway, a few of these folks left, and started their own forum, one on which they can supposedly say anything they want about their so-called peak experiences, without anyone pissing in their cyberpunchbowl. One would think they'd be happy, and...uh...stay over there, where they claim things are so much better. But n. A hard-core few of them spend more time writing to Fairfield Life than they do The_Leak, saying essentially the same thing over and over and over: We don't like it over here, because a few people don't treat us with the respect we deserve when we talk about 'spiritual' topics. These people are BAD, and should be made to go away, so we can 'share' our spiritual experiences without fear of interruption or embarrassing demands for proof of our claims. Blah-blah-blah. You know the whine...you've heard it now for quite some time. My contention in this post is that the whining comes directly from how they were taught to act and live by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. HE was the one who taught these TM followers that the only safe way they could live in this world was to clump together in groups. If you were doing Maharishi's program correctly, you had to live in TM-only communities, reside in TM-approved houses, bounce on your butts together several times a day, and participate in the sessions in which you share experiences and get them voted #1 experiences or #2 experiences or whatever. In those sharing sessions, there were always two sides to the sharing. A few people would have actual experiences to share, and if they were deemed #1 experiences, everybody would look at them in an envious way and inwardly go Woo!, and they'd actually get some attention. In the TMO, with its
[FairfieldLife] Re: A cool, shiny, spiritual moment
I am sitting in my home office on a dark grey chair. The walls are painted grey. There is a computer monitor in front of me, its frame, black. There are two speakers on the desk, their face, black. The desk is grey. The computer sits on the desk. It's black. There is a computer mouse, also black, as is the computer keyboard, and there is a cheap camera, again black. A battery charger. Black again. There are bills and receipts, which are white, so I suppose white is a colour that represents diminution of resources. But the spiritual clincher of this experience are two objects to my left: 1) A CD box containing a recording of Die Schöpfung (The Creation) by Joseph Haydn which is resting on, 2) a book called The Quotable Atheist, ... for Nonbelievers ... and Those Generally Hell-Bound (to shorten a somewhat long secondary title for the book). The book's cover is about the same colour as dried blood. I don't have a dog. I don't miss not having a dog. The last time I had a dog was about 1952. I did however get a ride in a car yesterday, and there was a dog in that car.
Re: [FairfieldLife] A Philip K Dick Speech
This is a theme I've been on since I was a kid bugging my parents that I had no proof of what I was experiencing was real since it was all experienced in my head. You really used to say stuff like that to your folks? Did they take you to a shrink? From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 11:56 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] A Philip K Dick Speech I can sorta relate to what PKD is talking about because I sometimes when I have fallen asleep late at night on the futon (yes, I still have one of those) in the living room when I wake up the room doesn't quite look the same. A few seconds later it does but this has happened enumerable times. And then along PKD's theme we have Salyvin's buddy, Mr. David the queen is a reptilian Icke on the world as a holographic projection. https://youtu.be/lrADlTxgYVQ This is a theme I've been on since I was a kid bugging my parents that I had no proof of what I was experiencing was real since it was all experienced in my head. In other watches I highly recommend to Netflixers The Liberator which is the story of Simon Bolivar. This is a well crafted film about a personality most Americans know little about and as a friend said yesterday South America went a different route than the US but that's because Spain conquered there and oppressed the natives. He was way ahead of his time and probably reincarnated as Bernie Sanders. Also I recommend Extraterrestrials available on Netflix. This is the movie Spielberg should have made rather than the cutesy one. It too is well crafted as a cabin in the woods type of tail that takes a turn for the worse after a UFO crashes nearby. https://youtu.be/CXDhXQrLtMU Nabby would be jealous. On 05/13/2015 11:32 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Great find. Here's my friend Robert's graphical version of the story PKD tells at the first link: http://www.philipkdickfans.com/weirdo.htm From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 3:16 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] A Philip K Dick Speech Would PKD love FFL? Did Philip K. Dick disclose the real Matrix in 1977? Interview: Hour 25 - Philip K. Dick - Interview Nah, probably not. We are not worthy. ;-) | | | || | | | | | | Did Philip K. Dick disclose the real Matrix in 1977? | | | | View on youtu.be | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | | | | || | | | | | | Hour 25 - Philip K. Dick - Interview | | | | View on youtu.be | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | #yiv5582414776 #yiv5582414776 -- #yiv5582414776ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv5582414776 #yiv5582414776ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv5582414776 #yiv5582414776ygrp-mkp #yiv5582414776hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv5582414776 #yiv5582414776ygrp-mkp #yiv5582414776ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv5582414776 #yiv5582414776ygrp-mkp .yiv5582414776ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv5582414776 #yiv5582414776ygrp-mkp .yiv5582414776ad p {margin:0;}#yiv5582414776 #yiv5582414776ygrp-mkp .yiv5582414776ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv5582414776 #yiv5582414776ygrp-sponsor #yiv5582414776ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv5582414776 #yiv5582414776ygrp-sponsor #yiv5582414776ygrp-lc #yiv5582414776hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv5582414776 #yiv5582414776ygrp-sponsor #yiv5582414776ygrp-lc .yiv5582414776ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv5582414776 #yiv5582414776actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv5582414776 #yiv5582414776activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv5582414776 #yiv5582414776activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv5582414776 #yiv5582414776activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv5582414776 #yiv5582414776activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv5582414776 #yiv5582414776activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv5582414776 #yiv5582414776activity span .yiv5582414776underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv5582414776 .yiv5582414776attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv5582414776 .yiv5582414776attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv5582414776 .yiv5582414776attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv5582414776 .yiv5582414776attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv5582414776 .yiv5582414776attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv5582414776 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv5582414776 .yiv5582414776bold
Re: [FairfieldLife] A Philip K Dick Speech
No, they thought those were good questions. On 05/14/2015 01:33 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: This is a theme I've been on since I was a kid bugging my parents that I had no proof of what I was experiencing was real since it was all experienced in my head. You really used to say stuff like that to your folks? Did they take you to a shrink? *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, May 14, 2015 11:56 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] A Philip K Dick Speech I can sorta relate to what PKD is talking about because I sometimes when I have fallen asleep late at night on the futon (yes, I still have one of those) in the living room when I wake up the room doesn't quite look the same. A few seconds later it does but this has happened enumerable times. And then along PKD's theme we have Salyvin's buddy, Mr. David the queen is a reptilian Icke on the world as a holographic projection. https://youtu.be/lrADlTxgYVQ This is a theme I've been on since I was a kid bugging my parents that I had no proof of what I was experiencing was real since it was all experienced in my head. In other watches I highly recommend to Netflixers The Liberator which is the story of Simon Bolivar. This is a well crafted film about a personality most Americans know little about and as a friend said yesterday South America went a different route than the US but that's because Spain conquered there and oppressed the natives. He was way ahead of his time and probably reincarnated as Bernie Sanders. Also I recommend Extraterrestrials available on Netflix. This is the movie Spielberg should have made rather than the cutesy one. It too is well crafted as a cabin in the woods type of tail that takes a turn for the worse after a UFO crashes nearby. https://youtu.be/CXDhXQrLtMU Nabby would be jealous. On 05/13/2015 11:32 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com mailto:turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: */Great find. Here's my friend Robert's graphical version of the story PKD tells at the first link:/* */ /* */http://www.philipkdickfans.com/weirdo.htm/* *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net mailto:noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, May 14, 2015 3:16 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] A Philip K Dick Speech Would PKD love FFL? Did Philip K. Dick disclose the real Matrix in 1977? https://youtu.be/jXeVgEs4sOo Interview: Hour 25 - Philip K. Dick - Interview https://youtu.be/aFhsDUAZ6Co Nah, probably not. We are not worthy. ;-) image https://youtu.be/jXeVgEs4sOo Did Philip K. Dick disclose the real Matrix in 1977? https://youtu.be/jXeVgEs4sOo View on youtu.be https://youtu.be/jXeVgEs4sOo Preview by Yahoo image https://youtu.be/aFhsDUAZ6Co Hour 25 - Philip K. Dick - Interview https://youtu.be/aFhsDUAZ6Co View on youtu.be https://youtu.be/aFhsDUAZ6Co Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see with Barry is his own fault
Will someone please tell Barry that he is welcome to submit his application to me, for membership over at The Peak, at any time. But I do have a small requirement for him first, not reflected in his writing below: mental stability. Thanks. What's always boggled my mind is how many of the people who have *BEEN* kept in line by TM teachers and Governors of the Age of Enlightenment (I mean...just *think* about that term, and that people are *so* brainwashed that they take it for granted and never question it) react. Rather than resenting having been told what they can and cannot do and what they can and cannot think for years by these dweebs, *they aspire to be just like them*. Thus you find people like Jim Flanegin, who never had what it took to become a TM teacher, wanting to become just like them and impose his will on others and force them to live the way *he* wants them to. In a very real sense, this strikes me as the same kind of inherited behavior we see in victims of child abuse. Instead of growing up to hate such abuse, they tend to grow up to become abusers themselves. I find the very existence of The_Leak quite fascinating. It started because one person on FFL (Jim Flanegin) had a grudge against another person on FFL (moi) because he wouldn't buy into his (ludicrous) claims of being enlightened. Mr. Enlightened got angrier and angrier and angrier until one day I used a throwaway phrase to make a point, and Jimbo went fuckin' crazy over it and started slinging libel accusing me of being a pedophile, and encouraging people to sic the authorities on me in the real world. He *also* did the same thing that Doug/Buck is *still* doing, and started appealing to Rick Archer to have me thrown off of FFL, and created whole threads with this in the Subject line, thus smearing my name in search engines. Rick of course ignored him like the idiotic control freak he was acting like. Me, because what he was doing was ILLEGAL and the very definition of libel, I sicced the Dutch cops on his ass. Mr. Enlightened reacted by not only NOT apologizing for the libel, but by running away and forming his own group, where he has now developed a history of banning anyone who dares to say something he doesn't like. It's not just the COWARDICE of all of this that gets me, but the abused trying to become the abuser phenomenon that makes me roll my eyes. After all these years of being indoctrinated by the TM movement, it's understandable that someone with as weak an intellect as Jimbo's can no longer even *conceive* of thinking any way other than he's been told to think. What is less understandable is that he wants to be able to do to other people what was done to him. I guess he finally managed it, by creating a forum on which *HE* has the final word on what anyone can say and what they can't. I hope he's finally happy. That would be a first, in the entire time I've known him on the Internet. I honestly hope that Jimbo and his followers have a grand time over on The_Leak. He gets to finally be the control freak he's always wanted to be, and his followers get to feel superior to those they've left behind. But the bottom line is that they simply couldn't handle dealing with a forum on which people were allowed to express their own ideas as they wanted. They're only comfortable on a forum in which the ways they're *allowed* to interact with others is dictated to them. If anyone is looking to define the legacy of the TM movement, I would suggest that this is it. I did my weekly scan of The_Leak this morning as my Dutch cop friends have advised me to do, just to make sure that the weasel who created the group isn't still spouting libel about me. He doesn't seem to be, so it would seem that even the dumbest people can finally learn if you just hit them over the head with reality enough times. :-) However, scanning a few of the posts quickly just to get a feel for what they talk about over there, it occurs to me that a few of them are still holding onto grudges and fostering the notion that they were pushed out of FFL and forced to create another group because Rick didn't protect them and their interests on FFL. This strikes me as so delusional I felt I should discuss it a bit. First, Fairfield Life was NEVER created for them, meaning as a place of refuge (the actual word that Buck used in one of his latest gripes) for TM True Believers. It's ASTOUNDING that anyone could *possibly* believe that. FFL has -- since Day One -- been the *opposite* of a refuge for TBs. Its charter is right there on the home page for all to see. It is *by design* a place where one has the right to challenge anything and discuss it. FFL was, in fact, created as an *alternative* to the TM movement itself, where you could get yourself excommunicated just for expressing criticism or doubt about the official TM dogma, Maharishi, or even TM itself. How did these bozos who are now holding court
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see on FFL is Maharishi's fault
I guess at some point, the hunter, becomes the hunted, so to speak. He has bought in so heavily to this meme as Barry Wright, Cult Detective that this has, sort of overtaken his personality. His posting content consists of longer, and shorter versions of he same story. I suppose he and Sal, and MJ could form their own little team of Cult Busters They've already got a ready made great song. Just change that one word. They ain't afraid of no cult! Just Dance 2014 - Ghostbusters - 5* Stars https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMIpphEXHs8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMIpphEXHs8 Just Dance 2014 - Ghostbusters - 5* Stars https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMIpphEXHs8 Facebook: http://goo.gl/uzEe2 - Twitter: http://goo.gl/JGnct Ghostbusters by Ray Parker, Jr. Difficulty: Medium View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMIpphEXHs8 Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote : He sounds very JELLOS of you Steve. You've obviously reached a whole new state of spiritual insight and you've got your own family and a successful business that is a going concern. Like I was telling Jim, enlightenment means being happy and enjoying success in all your desires and goals - the proof of the pudding is in the eating. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : certifiable at this point? Thanks for trying to help the poor TurqB. Where is Dr. Pete when we need him? Obviously he is trying to reach out. Some people feel better when they have someone to talk to. You may be his only connection with reality these days, Steve. He may be delusional at this point. Who knows what kind of deprivation and peer pressure he's going through over there at those leftist bohemian cafes. if anyone even reads it. Maybe you can understand now why they got kicked of the TMO - they suck as spiritual teachers. No new insight; they failed to reach enlightenment in 5-7 years, or even a decade. They produced zero enlightened students in three decades of spiritual teaching. They promised us a lot more than they could deliver - from enlightenment to flying and levitation. If they mislead us for all those years, who would believe anything they say now? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : For some time now (over a year, and escalating after one particular person took a powder from the forum and essentially told everyone here to fuck off and die), the primary characteristic of the forum called Fairfield Life has IMO been whining. A few TM TBs, deprived of their version of Saint Joan to fight their battles for them against the invading hoard of infidels, tried to do the same thing themselves, and with disastrous results. Not being able to *stand* the fact that people who disagreed with them about the importance of TM, Maharishi, and above all their over-corpulent egos could express these thing freely here, they set about a non-stop snipe hunt in which they tried to demonize them and make them go away. That exercise in pettiness went so far that one of the constant heretic-attackers finally went over the line and resorted to actual slander -- he encouraged people to call or write officials in the home town of one poster he particularly hated, and tell them that he was a child molestor. Rightfully busted on this, he ran off with his tail between his legs and tried to form a new group, one in which supposedly right-thinking, *really* spiritual people like himself could talk about spirituality without being interrupted by horrible heretics like myself. It took less than a month for him to throw the first person off of his new forum, for the sin of revealing what he was up to back over on FFL, the forum he'd sworn he would never visit again as long as I was here. Go figure. What a fuckin' soap opera, right? So anyway, a few of these folks left, and started their own forum, one on which they can supposedly say anything they want about their so-called peak experiences, without anyone pissing in their cyberpunchbowl. One would think they'd be happy, and...uh...stay over there, where they claim things are so much better. But n. A hard-core few of them spend more time writing to Fairfield Life than they do The_Leak, saying essentially the same thing over and over and over: We don't like it over here, because a few people don't treat us with the respect we deserve when we talk about 'spiritual' topics. These people are BAD, and should be made to go away, so we can 'share' our spiritual experiences without fear of interruption or embarrassing demands for proof of our claims. Blah-blah-blah. You know the whine...you've heard it now for quite some time. My contention in this post is that the whining comes directly from how they were taught to act and live by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. HE was the one who taught these TM followers that the only safe way they
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see on FFL is Maharishi's fault
Sal, look, the simple solution is to find a new home for all your fascinating content But, we all know why this won't happen, because your content is all about complaining about those, who are complaining about you, complaining about them. And plus, I find it sort of fun to push the buttons, of the self proclaimed called button pushers. That is, after all, how Barry refers to his participation here. It's all good Sal. Tea and crumpets, anyone? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I think you are correct and I think it's pathological to insist that a chat room is not spiritual enough and then stay there dragging the place down instead of thinking of relevant contributions, especially when you have a ready made alternative just a mouse click away where all is sweetness and light. The need to stick around and bitch is symptomatic of something but I can't be bothered to do any research into it because it's so dull. I really hope there's no such thing as a life review when we die, because the three whining trolls here are going to really hate seeing how much of their lives they've spent saying the same thing over and over again. And to no effect. I wouldn't wish it on anyone. And one thing is really for sure, this aint spiritual behaviour. Or I read the wrong books... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : For some time now (over a year, and escalating after one particular person took a powder from the forum and essentially told everyone here to fuck off and die), the primary characteristic of the forum called Fairfield Life has IMO been whining. A few TM TBs, deprived of their version of Saint Joan to fight their battles for them against the invading hoard of infidels, tried to do the same thing themselves, and with disastrous results. Not being able to *stand* the fact that people who disagreed with them about the importance of TM, Maharishi, and above all their over-corpulent egos could express these thing freely here, they set about a non-stop snipe hunt in which they tried to demonize them and make them go away. That exercise in pettiness went so far that one of the constant heretic-attackers finally went over the line and resorted to actual slander -- he encouraged people to call or write officials in the home town of one poster he particularly hated, and tell them that he was a child molestor. Rightfully busted on this, he ran off with his tail between his legs and tried to form a new group, one in which supposedly right-thinking, *really* spiritual people like himself could talk about spirituality without being interrupted by horrible heretics like myself. It took less than a month for him to throw the first person off of his new forum, for the sin of revealing what he was up to back over on FFL, the forum he'd sworn he would never visit again as long as I was here. Go figure. What a fuckin' soap opera, right? So anyway, a few of these folks left, and started their own forum, one on which they can supposedly say anything they want about their so-called peak experiences, without anyone pissing in their cyberpunchbowl. One would think they'd be happy, and...uh...stay over there, where they claim things are so much better. But n. A hard-core few of them spend more time writing to Fairfield Life than they do The_Leak, saying essentially the same thing over and over and over: We don't like it over here, because a few people don't treat us with the respect we deserve when we talk about 'spiritual' topics. These people are BAD, and should be made to go away, so we can 'share' our spiritual experiences without fear of interruption or embarrassing demands for proof of our claims. Blah-blah-blah. You know the whine...you've heard it now for quite some time. My contention in this post is that the whining comes directly from how they were taught to act and live by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. HE was the one who taught these TM followers that the only safe way they could live in this world was to clump together in groups. If you were doing Maharishi's program correctly, you had to live in TM-only communities, reside in TM-approved houses, bounce on your butts together several times a day, and participate in the sessions in which you share experiences and get them voted #1 experiences or #2 experiences or whatever. In those sharing sessions, there were always two sides to the sharing. A few people would have actual experiences to share, and if they were deemed #1 experiences, everybody would look at them in an envious way and inwardly go Woo!, and they'd actually get some attention. In the TMO, with its we-only-have-one-leader-and-he's-the-only-one-there-will-ever-be-allowed-to-become-the-focus-of-attention mentality, getting a little attention by talking about your spiritual experiences in one of these sharing sessions was pretty much the only attention
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see with Barry is his own fault
Maybe if we break it down, Jim, we can understand what he's talking about. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote : Will someone please tell Barry that he is welcome to submit his application to me, for membership over at The Peak, at any time. But I do have a small requirement for him first, not reflected in his writing below: mental stability. Thanks. What's always boggled my mind is how many of the people who have *BEEN* kept in line by TM teachers and Governors of the Age of Enlightenment (I mean...just *think* about that term, and that people are *so* brainwashed that they take it for granted and never question it) react. Rather than resenting having been told what they can and cannot do and what they can and cannot think for years by these dweebs, *they aspire to be just like them*. Thus you find people like Jim Flanegin, who never had what it took to become a TM teacher, wanting to become just like them and impose his will on others and force them to live the way *he* wants them to. In a very real sense, this strikes me as the same kind of inherited behavior we see in victims of child abuse. Instead of growing up to hate such abuse, they tend to grow up to become abusers themselves. I find the very existence of The_Leak quite fascinating. It started because one person on FFL (Jim Flanegin) had a grudge against another person on FFL (moi) because he wouldn't buy into his (ludicrous) claims of being enlightened. Mr. Enlightened got angrier and angrier and angrier until one day I used a throwaway phrase to make a point, and Jimbo went fuckin' crazy over it and started slinging libel accusing me of being a pedophile, and encouraging people to sic the authorities on me in the real world. He *also* did the same thing that Doug/Buck is *still* doing, and started appealing to Rick Archer to have me thrown off of FFL, and created whole threads with this in the Subject line, thus smearing my name in search engines. Rick of course ignored him like the idiotic control freak he was acting like. Me, because what he was doing was ILLEGAL and the very definition of libel, I sicced the Dutch cops on his ass. Mr. Enlightened reacted by not only NOT apologizing for the libel, but by running away and forming his own group, where he has now developed a history of banning anyone who dares to say something he doesn't like. It's not just the COWARDICE of all of this that gets me, but the abused trying to become the abuser phenomenon that makes me roll my eyes. After all these years of being indoctrinated by the TM movement, it's understandable that someone with as weak an intellect as Jimbo's can no longer even *conceive* of thinking any way other than he's been told to think. What is less understandable is that he wants to be able to do to other people what was done to him. I guess he finally managed it, by creating a forum on which *HE* has the final word on what anyone can say and what they can't. I hope he's finally happy. That would be a first, in the entire time I've known him on the Internet. I honestly hope that Jimbo and his followers have a grand time over on The_Leak. He gets to finally be the control freak he's always wanted to be, and his followers get to feel superior to those they've left behind. But the bottom line is that they simply couldn't handle dealing with a forum on which people were allowed to express their own ideas as they wanted. They're only comfortable on a forum in which the ways they're *allowed* to interact with others is dictated to them. If anyone is looking to define the legacy of the TM movement, I would suggest that this is it. I did my weekly scan of The_Leak this morning as my Dutch cop friends have advised me to do, just to make sure that the weasel who created the group isn't still spouting libel about me. He doesn't seem to be, so it would seem that even the dumbest people can finally learn if you just hit them over the head with reality enough times. :-) However, scanning a few of the posts quickly just to get a feel for what they talk about over there, it occurs to me that a few of them are still holding onto grudges and fostering the notion that they were pushed out of FFL and forced to create another group because Rick didn't protect them and their interests on FFL. This strikes me as so delusional I felt I should discuss it a bit. First, Fairfield Life was NEVER created for them, meaning as a place of refuge (the actual word that Buck used in one of his latest gripes) for TM True Believers. It's ASTOUNDING that anyone could *possibly* believe that. FFL has -- since Day One -- been the *opposite* of a refuge for TBs. Its charter is right there on the home page for all to see. It is *by design* a place where one has the right
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FF Mental Health Alliance: Shifting Cultural Attitudes Subcommittee
Dear MJ thanks for your empathy and support on this. There is a lot of good work being done around community mental health in Fairfield, Iowa. It is work in progress and certainly there yet are still some tough nuts to crack within this work but good work by a lot of good people is being done on many fronts. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Excellent, go for it and may all those with problems in Fairfield and surrounding environs get the help they need. From: dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 12:20 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FF Mental Health Alliance: Shifting Cultural Attitudes Subcommittee updating.. FMHA MEETING AGENDA Ongoing Items Happy Mothers Day! Anxiety Lecture: We are well underway with many initiatives in preparation for the event - with special thanks to stellar volunteer Patrick Williams. Attached below is an Event Tracker to offer a perspective of all that is underway. Please review and let us know if we are missing anything of if you have any suggestions. Most notable is publicity in the form of articles in the Weekly Reader and the Fairfield Ledger last week! Posters are also up on campus and around town. Regional Mental Health Professionals: FMHA would like to feature properly credentialed mental health professionals. Send us your info and we will add you to our list on LetsGoJeffCo, where we have a list started, along with other regional resources. (http://letsgojeffco.com/ resources/mind.html http://letsgojeffco.com/resources/mind.html) Organization Focus: We will temporarily suspend larger group meetings. In the meantime, the Steering Committee will meet to focus on strengthening the core of the organization so that we may be poised to grow with a more solid foundation. Other active volunteers are warmly invited to participate. Details to follow. New Meeting Location: We may have gotten the Sondheim Center as a location to host meetings once a month. Confirmation and details to follow. Ongoing outreach: If you have any ideas, skills, or support to make this group better, contact us. scott@... mailto:scott@... Attachments and Links: Anxiety Lecture Event Tracker http://ardentcenter.us9.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=9db52c96f615edc3ab1772b2cid=34197274bde=f262db1f14 Anxiety Lecture Poster http://ardentcenter.us9.list-manage.com/track/click?u=9db52c96f615edc3ab1772b2cid=b1203bceede=f262db1f14- Download and post it on Facebook, email to friends, etc... Strategic Plan http://ardentcenter.us9.list-manage.com/track/click?u=9db52c96f615edc3ab1772b2cid=cd61a27ff3e=f262db1f14 which contains all of our goals Archives of Mental Health Matters with Dr. Scott Terry http://ardentcenter.us9.list-manage.com/track/click?u=9db52c96f615edc3ab1772b2cid=bc0e11557be=f262db1f14 Let'sGoJeffCo http://ardentcenter.us9.list-manage.com/track/click?u=9db52c96f615edc3ab1772b2cid=d38d4b8bc6e=f262db1f14 Mental Health Page Craig and Scott wishing you well - and reminding you of how powerful you can be to make a difference in our world today. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : [November 2014] Towards Actionable Plans.. Dear Committee Members; The focus of the next working meeting will be on implementation of the stage plans of the various subgroups. [currently 11.11.2014] We are now at the point of developing an implementation of each of the goals. Come join us. We want you to join us. This is being sent this out to all so you know what the Shifting Cultural Attitudes Subcommittee is working on. This 'Cultural Group' is working through a process of creating a Strategic Plan so we can take all the wonderful ideas we have been banging around and create an actionable plan out of them. Find attached an explanation of writing SMART goals and a template for the team leader to fill out for the goals your group were working on during Tuesday night's meeting. When the team leader has entered the information into the actionable plan template, please forward to Ken Daley for inclusion in the Strategic Plan. At previous Alliance working meetings two working subgroups formed and met — the “MUM/MSAE” group and the “Outreach and Education” group. Those two groups met again last week. Thank you to everyone in those groups for stepping up and contributing in this way. Please contact your group liaison to check on if you are meeting this coming week, and on what work needs to be done between the sessions. Template Explanation: Writing SMART Goals STEP 1: Understanding the nature of SMART goal writing There are several variations of the mnemonic SMART. For the purposes of our Mental Health Alliance exercise we will use the following. S pecific M easurable A ttainable R elevant T ime Bound Specific: The more specific and detailed your description, the
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[FairfieldLife] The Gateway Drug to Addiction:
Really interesting research setting the record straight on gateways.. http://www.npr.org/2015/04/18/400658693/setting-the-record-straight-on-the-phrase-gateway- http://www.npr.org/2015/04/18/400658693/setting-the-record-straight-on-the-phrase-gateway-drugSetting The Record Straight On The Phrase 'Gateway Drug' http://www.npr.org/2015/04/18/400658693/setting-the-record-straight-on-the-phrase-gateway-drug Setting The Record Straight On The Phrase 'Gateway Drug' http://www.npr.org/2015/04/18/400658693/setting-the-record-straight-on-the-phrase-gateway-drug Denise Kandel coined the term, often associated with marijuana, in a research paper 40 years ago. But her work suggested nicotine, not pot, was most likely to lead to the use of harder drugs. View on www.npr.org http://www.npr.org/2015/04/18/400658693/setting-the-record-straight-on-the-phrase-gateway-drug Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the FairfieldLife group. File: /PressRelease Lists 5-4-15-1.pdf Uploaded by : mail_uzer Description : Press Release New TM Center Bethlehem Lehigh Valley You can access this file at the URL: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/files/PressRelease%20Lists%205-4-15-1.pdf To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: https://help.yahoo.com/kb/index?page=contenty=PROD_GRPSlocale=en_USid=SLN15398 Regards, mail_uzer
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A cool, shiny, spiritual moment
Exactly. Sometimes spiritual is just sitting somewhere writing about what is going on in one's life at the moment. My little rap about Paris was simply the way someone who has followed a path such as mine processes loss, finding a way to turn it from sorrow into joy. From: anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 9:44 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A cool, shiny, spiritual moment I am sitting in my home office on a dark grey chair. The walls are painted grey. There is a computer monitor in front of me, its frame, black. There are two speakers on the desk, their face, black. The desk is grey. The computer sits on the desk. It's black. There is a computer mouse, also black, as is the computer keyboard, and there is a cheap camera, again black. A battery charger. Black again. There are bills and receipts, which are white, so I suppose white is a colour that represents diminution of resources. But the spiritual clincher of this experience are two objects to my left: 1) A CD box containing a recording of Die Schöpfung (The Creation) by Joseph Haydn which is resting on, 2) a book called The Quotable Atheist, ... for Nonbelievers ... and Those Generally Hell-Bound (to shorten a somewhat long secondary title for the book). The book's cover is about the same colour as dried blood. I don't have a dog. I don't miss not having a dog. The last time I had a dog was about 1952. I did however get a ride in a car yesterday, and there was a dog in that car. #yiv9700502452 #yiv9700502452 -- #yiv9700502452ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv9700502452 #yiv9700502452ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv9700502452 #yiv9700502452ygrp-mkp #yiv9700502452hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv9700502452 #yiv9700502452ygrp-mkp #yiv9700502452ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv9700502452 #yiv9700502452ygrp-mkp .yiv9700502452ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv9700502452 #yiv9700502452ygrp-mkp .yiv9700502452ad p {margin:0;}#yiv9700502452 #yiv9700502452ygrp-mkp .yiv9700502452ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv9700502452 #yiv9700502452ygrp-sponsor #yiv9700502452ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv9700502452 #yiv9700502452ygrp-sponsor #yiv9700502452ygrp-lc #yiv9700502452hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv9700502452 #yiv9700502452ygrp-sponsor #yiv9700502452ygrp-lc .yiv9700502452ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv9700502452 #yiv9700502452actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv9700502452 #yiv9700502452activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv9700502452 #yiv9700502452activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv9700502452 #yiv9700502452activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv9700502452 #yiv9700502452activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv9700502452 #yiv9700502452activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv9700502452 #yiv9700502452activity span .yiv9700502452underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv9700502452 .yiv9700502452attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv9700502452 .yiv9700502452attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv9700502452 .yiv9700502452attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv9700502452 .yiv9700502452attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv9700502452 .yiv9700502452attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv9700502452 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv9700502452 .yiv9700502452bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv9700502452 .yiv9700502452bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv9700502452 dd.yiv9700502452last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv9700502452 dd.yiv9700502452last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv9700502452 dd.yiv9700502452last p span.yiv9700502452yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv9700502452 div.yiv9700502452attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv9700502452 div.yiv9700502452attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv9700502452 div.yiv9700502452file-title a, #yiv9700502452 div.yiv9700502452file-title a:active, #yiv9700502452 div.yiv9700502452file-title a:hover, #yiv9700502452 div.yiv9700502452file-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv9700502452 div.yiv9700502452photo-title a, #yiv9700502452 div.yiv9700502452photo-title a:active, #yiv9700502452 div.yiv9700502452photo-title a:hover, #yiv9700502452 div.yiv9700502452photo-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv9700502452 div#yiv9700502452ygrp-mlmsg #yiv9700502452ygrp-msg p a span.yiv9700502452yshortcuts {font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;}#yiv9700502452 .yiv9700502452green {color:#628c2a;}#yiv9700502452 .yiv9700502452MsoNormal {margin:0 0 0 0;}#yiv9700502452 o {font-size:0;}#yiv9700502452
Re: [FairfieldLife] Ellison
Great find. Harlan is arguably the world's greatest curmudgeon. :-) Here he is with (of all people) Robin Wlliams (possibly one of the only people whose mind worked at the same speed as Harlan's), telling the story of how L. Ron Hubbard invented Scientology: Harlan Ellison Robin Williams discuss LRH | | | | | | | | | | | Harlan Ellison Robin Williams discuss LRH | | | | View on www.youtube.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 3:34 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Ellison Harlan Ellison on God Harlan Ellison on God | | | | | | | | | | | Harlan Ellison on God | | | | View on www.youtube.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | #yiv9973050956 #yiv9973050956 -- #yiv9973050956ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv9973050956 #yiv9973050956ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv9973050956 #yiv9973050956ygrp-mkp #yiv9973050956hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv9973050956 #yiv9973050956ygrp-mkp #yiv9973050956ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv9973050956 #yiv9973050956ygrp-mkp .yiv9973050956ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv9973050956 #yiv9973050956ygrp-mkp .yiv9973050956ad p {margin:0;}#yiv9973050956 #yiv9973050956ygrp-mkp .yiv9973050956ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv9973050956 #yiv9973050956ygrp-sponsor #yiv9973050956ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv9973050956 #yiv9973050956ygrp-sponsor #yiv9973050956ygrp-lc #yiv9973050956hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv9973050956 #yiv9973050956ygrp-sponsor #yiv9973050956ygrp-lc .yiv9973050956ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv9973050956 #yiv9973050956actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv9973050956 #yiv9973050956activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv9973050956 #yiv9973050956activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv9973050956 #yiv9973050956activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv9973050956 #yiv9973050956activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv9973050956 #yiv9973050956activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv9973050956 #yiv9973050956activity span .yiv9973050956underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv9973050956 .yiv9973050956attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv9973050956 .yiv9973050956attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv9973050956 .yiv9973050956attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv9973050956 .yiv9973050956attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv9973050956 .yiv9973050956attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv9973050956 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv9973050956 .yiv9973050956bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv9973050956 .yiv9973050956bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv9973050956 dd.yiv9973050956last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv9973050956 dd.yiv9973050956last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv9973050956 dd.yiv9973050956last p span.yiv9973050956yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv9973050956 div.yiv9973050956attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv9973050956 div.yiv9973050956attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv9973050956 div.yiv9973050956file-title a, #yiv9973050956 div.yiv9973050956file-title a:active, #yiv9973050956 div.yiv9973050956file-title a:hover, #yiv9973050956 div.yiv9973050956file-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv9973050956 div.yiv9973050956photo-title a, #yiv9973050956 div.yiv9973050956photo-title a:active, #yiv9973050956 div.yiv9973050956photo-title a:hover, #yiv9973050956 div.yiv9973050956photo-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv9973050956 div#yiv9973050956ygrp-mlmsg #yiv9973050956ygrp-msg p a span.yiv9973050956yshortcuts {font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;}#yiv9973050956 .yiv9973050956green {color:#628c2a;}#yiv9973050956 .yiv9973050956MsoNormal {margin:0 0 0 0;}#yiv9973050956 o {font-size:0;}#yiv9973050956 #yiv9973050956photos div {float:left;width:72px;}#yiv9973050956 #yiv9973050956photos div div {border:1px solid #66;height:62px;overflow:hidden;width:62px;}#yiv9973050956 #yiv9973050956photos div label {color:#66;font-size:10px;overflow:hidden;text-align:center;white-space:nowrap;width:64px;}#yiv9973050956 #yiv9973050956reco-category {font-size:77%;}#yiv9973050956 #yiv9973050956reco-desc {font-size:77%;}#yiv9973050956 .yiv9973050956replbq {margin:4px;}#yiv9973050956 #yiv9973050956ygrp-actbar div a:first-child {margin-right:2px;padding-right:5px;}#yiv9973050956 #yiv9973050956ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:Arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;}#yiv9973050956 #yiv9973050956ygrp-mlmsg table
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: God speaketh...
Indeed. The whole schtick -- the things people believe in the name of religion -- is just so funny when you think of it. Just yesterday I stumbled upon an old comedy routine by the late Bill Hicks, in which he said (paraphrasing), Why is it that Christians wear crosses around their necks. Do they really think that is what Jesus wants to see, and that will make him return? I mean, it's like walking up to Jackie Kennedy wearing a tiny sniper's rifle on a chain around your neck and saying 'Hey Jackie...I just wanted to tell you how much I loved John.' From: s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 3:15 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: God speaketh... That is the most succinct summary of what most Christians have taken as gospel it deserves a place in the Oxford Dictionary of Quotations. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : #yiv7654142484 #yiv7654142484 -- #yiv7654142484ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv7654142484 #yiv7654142484ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv7654142484 #yiv7654142484ygrp-mkp #yiv7654142484hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv7654142484 #yiv7654142484ygrp-mkp #yiv7654142484ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv7654142484 #yiv7654142484ygrp-mkp .yiv7654142484ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv7654142484 #yiv7654142484ygrp-mkp .yiv7654142484ad p {margin:0;}#yiv7654142484 #yiv7654142484ygrp-mkp .yiv7654142484ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv7654142484 #yiv7654142484ygrp-sponsor #yiv7654142484ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv7654142484 #yiv7654142484ygrp-sponsor #yiv7654142484ygrp-lc #yiv7654142484hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv7654142484 #yiv7654142484ygrp-sponsor #yiv7654142484ygrp-lc .yiv7654142484ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv7654142484 #yiv7654142484actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv7654142484 #yiv7654142484activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv7654142484 #yiv7654142484activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv7654142484 #yiv7654142484activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv7654142484 #yiv7654142484activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv7654142484 #yiv7654142484activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv7654142484 #yiv7654142484activity span .yiv7654142484underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv7654142484 .yiv7654142484attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv7654142484 .yiv7654142484attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv7654142484 .yiv7654142484attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv7654142484 .yiv7654142484attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv7654142484 .yiv7654142484attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv7654142484 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv7654142484 .yiv7654142484bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv7654142484 .yiv7654142484bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv7654142484 dd.yiv7654142484last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv7654142484 dd.yiv7654142484last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv7654142484 dd.yiv7654142484last p span.yiv7654142484yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv7654142484 div.yiv7654142484attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv7654142484 div.yiv7654142484attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv7654142484 div.yiv7654142484file-title a, #yiv7654142484 div.yiv7654142484file-title a:active, #yiv7654142484 div.yiv7654142484file-title a:hover, #yiv7654142484 div.yiv7654142484file-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv7654142484 div.yiv7654142484photo-title a, #yiv7654142484 div.yiv7654142484photo-title a:active, #yiv7654142484 div.yiv7654142484photo-title a:hover, #yiv7654142484 div.yiv7654142484photo-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv7654142484 div#yiv7654142484ygrp-mlmsg #yiv7654142484ygrp-msg p a span.yiv7654142484yshortcuts {font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;}#yiv7654142484 .yiv7654142484green {color:#628c2a;}#yiv7654142484 .yiv7654142484MsoNormal {margin:0 0 0 0;}#yiv7654142484 o {font-size:0;}#yiv7654142484 #yiv7654142484photos div {float:left;width:72px;}#yiv7654142484 #yiv7654142484photos div div {border:1px solid #66;height:62px;overflow:hidden;width:62px;}#yiv7654142484 #yiv7654142484photos div label {color:#66;font-size:10px;overflow:hidden;text-align:center;white-space:nowrap;width:64px;}#yiv7654142484 #yiv7654142484reco-category {font-size:77%;}#yiv7654142484 #yiv7654142484reco-desc {font-size:77%;}#yiv7654142484 .yiv7654142484replbq {margin:4px;}#yiv7654142484 #yiv7654142484ygrp-actbar div a:first-child {margin-right:2px;padding-right:5px;}#yiv7654142484 #yiv7654142484ygrp-mlmsg
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment Story of Wayne Wirs
The quality that IMO most distinguishes the Neo-Advaitans (and some lesser dweebs like the ones we've run across on FFL before they ran away to form their own groups/religions) is self-sufficiency. NOT in the good sense of actually *being* self-sufficient, but in the sense of allowing for no other interpretation of the nature of reality than their own. Their word -- describing *their* subjective experience -- is all the proof you should need of their exalted status. It doesn't matter whether they contradict themselves from moment to moment, it doesn't matter whether their actions are the complete opposite of how they claim they live their lives -- the only thing that matters is the thing they said the most recently. That is Truth. Because they spake it. This, I believe, is one of the worst things Maharishi ever did for his followers -- convince them that their subjective experience is all they need to define being enlightened. There was never any external verification, because none is needed. You just know you're enlightened. And once you know, others should believe you, because...uh...because you said so, and what you say is Truth...because you're enlightened. So there. Neo-assholes, is more like it... From: yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 2:45 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment Story of Wayne Wirs Almost all of the Batgappers (imo) are Neo or Pseudo-Advaitins, the characteristerics of which are described in several excellent websites, if you google Neo-Advaita. They have numerous common qualities, but it best serves us to provide some examples then identify the quallities of Neo-Advaita from there - examples, Gangaji and Andrew Cohen. Many of them were devotees of HWL Poonja, but by now there is a new crop of them, growing like bacteria or mold on an old orange.: #yiv8651139883 #yiv8651139883 -- #yiv8651139883ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv8651139883 #yiv8651139883ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv8651139883 #yiv8651139883ygrp-mkp #yiv8651139883hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv8651139883 #yiv8651139883ygrp-mkp #yiv8651139883ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv8651139883 #yiv8651139883ygrp-mkp .yiv8651139883ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv8651139883 #yiv8651139883ygrp-mkp .yiv8651139883ad p {margin:0;}#yiv8651139883 #yiv8651139883ygrp-mkp .yiv8651139883ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv8651139883 #yiv8651139883ygrp-sponsor #yiv8651139883ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv8651139883 #yiv8651139883ygrp-sponsor #yiv8651139883ygrp-lc #yiv8651139883hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv8651139883 #yiv8651139883ygrp-sponsor #yiv8651139883ygrp-lc .yiv8651139883ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv8651139883 #yiv8651139883actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv8651139883 #yiv8651139883activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv8651139883 #yiv8651139883activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv8651139883 #yiv8651139883activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv8651139883 #yiv8651139883activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv8651139883 #yiv8651139883activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv8651139883 #yiv8651139883activity span .yiv8651139883underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv8651139883 .yiv8651139883attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv8651139883 .yiv8651139883attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv8651139883 .yiv8651139883attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv8651139883 .yiv8651139883attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv8651139883 .yiv8651139883attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv8651139883 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv8651139883 .yiv8651139883bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv8651139883 .yiv8651139883bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv8651139883 dd.yiv8651139883last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv8651139883 dd.yiv8651139883last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv8651139883 dd.yiv8651139883last p span.yiv8651139883yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv8651139883 div.yiv8651139883attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv8651139883 div.yiv8651139883attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv8651139883 div.yiv8651139883file-title a, #yiv8651139883 div.yiv8651139883file-title a:active, #yiv8651139883 div.yiv8651139883file-title a:hover, #yiv8651139883 div.yiv8651139883file-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv8651139883 div.yiv8651139883photo-title a, #yiv8651139883 div.yiv8651139883photo-title a:active, #yiv8651139883 div.yiv8651139883photo-title a:hover, #yiv8651139883 div.yiv8651139883photo-title
Re: [FairfieldLife] A Philip K Dick Speech
Great find. Here's my friend Robert's graphical version of the story PKD tells at the first link: http://www.philipkdickfans.com/weirdo.htm From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 3:16 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] A Philip K Dick Speech Would PKD love FFL? Did Philip K. Dick disclose the real Matrix in 1977? Interview: Hour 25 - Philip K. Dick - Interview Nah, probably not. We are not worthy. ;-) | | | | | | | | | | | Did Philip K. Dick disclose the real Matrix in 1977? | | | | View on youtu.be | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Hour 25 - Philip K. Dick - Interview | | | | View on youtu.be | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | #yiv4508651927 #yiv4508651927 -- #yiv4508651927ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv4508651927 #yiv4508651927ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv4508651927 #yiv4508651927ygrp-mkp #yiv4508651927hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv4508651927 #yiv4508651927ygrp-mkp #yiv4508651927ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv4508651927 #yiv4508651927ygrp-mkp .yiv4508651927ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv4508651927 #yiv4508651927ygrp-mkp .yiv4508651927ad p {margin:0;}#yiv4508651927 #yiv4508651927ygrp-mkp .yiv4508651927ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv4508651927 #yiv4508651927ygrp-sponsor #yiv4508651927ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv4508651927 #yiv4508651927ygrp-sponsor #yiv4508651927ygrp-lc #yiv4508651927hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv4508651927 #yiv4508651927ygrp-sponsor #yiv4508651927ygrp-lc .yiv4508651927ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv4508651927 #yiv4508651927actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv4508651927 #yiv4508651927activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv4508651927 #yiv4508651927activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv4508651927 #yiv4508651927activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv4508651927 #yiv4508651927activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv4508651927 #yiv4508651927activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv4508651927 #yiv4508651927activity span .yiv4508651927underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv4508651927 .yiv4508651927attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv4508651927 .yiv4508651927attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv4508651927 .yiv4508651927attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv4508651927 .yiv4508651927attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv4508651927 .yiv4508651927attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv4508651927 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv4508651927 .yiv4508651927bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv4508651927 .yiv4508651927bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv4508651927 dd.yiv4508651927last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv4508651927 dd.yiv4508651927last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv4508651927 dd.yiv4508651927last p span.yiv4508651927yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv4508651927 div.yiv4508651927attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv4508651927 div.yiv4508651927attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv4508651927 div.yiv4508651927file-title a, #yiv4508651927 div.yiv4508651927file-title a:active, #yiv4508651927 div.yiv4508651927file-title a:hover, #yiv4508651927 div.yiv4508651927file-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv4508651927 div.yiv4508651927photo-title a, #yiv4508651927 div.yiv4508651927photo-title a:active, #yiv4508651927 div.yiv4508651927photo-title a:hover, #yiv4508651927 div.yiv4508651927photo-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv4508651927 div#yiv4508651927ygrp-mlmsg #yiv4508651927ygrp-msg p a span.yiv4508651927yshortcuts {font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;}#yiv4508651927 .yiv4508651927green {color:#628c2a;}#yiv4508651927 .yiv4508651927MsoNormal {margin:0 0 0 0;}#yiv4508651927 o {font-size:0;}#yiv4508651927 #yiv4508651927photos div {float:left;width:72px;}#yiv4508651927 #yiv4508651927photos div div {border:1px solid #66;height:62px;overflow:hidden;width:62px;}#yiv4508651927 #yiv4508651927photos div label {color:#66;font-size:10px;overflow:hidden;text-align:center;white-space:nowrap;width:64px;}#yiv4508651927 #yiv4508651927reco-category {font-size:77%;}#yiv4508651927 #yiv4508651927reco-desc {font-size:77%;}#yiv4508651927 .yiv4508651927replbq {margin:4px;}#yiv4508651927 #yiv4508651927ygrp-actbar div a:first-child {margin-right:2px;padding-right:5px;}#yiv4508651927 #yiv4508651927ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:Arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;}#yiv4508651927 #yiv4508651927ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;}#yiv4508651927 #yiv4508651927ygrp-mlmsg
[FairfieldLife] Tomorrow's world yesterday...
Now I know what's missing from my life: an oscillating bath tub. How come these never made it into production? Imagining the future: early 20th century US patents - in pictures http://www.theguardian.com/technology/gallery/2015/may/14/imagining-the-future-turn-of-the-century-us-patents-in-pictures http://www.theguardian.com/technology/gallery/2015/may/14/imagining-the-future-turn-of-the-century-us-patents-in-pictures Imagining the future: early 20th century US patents - in... http://www.theguardian.com/technology/gallery/2015/may/14/imagining-the-future-turn-of-the-century-us-patents-in-pictures Historic patents from the early 20th century show how aspiring inventors predicted that humans would fly View on www.theguardian.com http://www.theguardian.com/technology/gallery/2015/may/14/imagining-the-future-turn-of-the-century-us-patents-in-pictures Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Tomorrow's world yesterday...
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[FairfieldLife] Why the whiny hysteria we see on FFL is Maharishi's fault
For some time now (over a year, and escalating after one particular person took a powder from the forum and essentially told everyone here to fuck off and die), the primary characteristic of the forum called Fairfield Life has IMO been whining. A few TM TBs, deprived of their version of Saint Joan to fight their battles for them against the invading hoard of infidels, tried to do the same thing themselves, and with disastrous results. Not being able to *stand* the fact that people who disagreed with them about the importance of TM, Maharishi, and above all their over-corpulent egos could express these thing freely here, they set about a non-stop snipe hunt in which they tried to demonize them and make them go away. That exercise in pettiness went so far that one of the constant heretic-attackers finally went over the line and resorted to actual slander -- he encouraged people to call or write officials in the home town of one poster he particularly hated, and tell them that he was a child molestor. Rightfully busted on this, he ran off with his tail between his legs and tried to form a new group, one in which supposedly right-thinking, *really* spiritual people like himself could talk about spirituality without being interrupted by horrible heretics like myself. It took less than a month for him to throw the first person off of his new forum, for the sin of revealing what he was up to back over on FFL, the forum he'd sworn he would never visit again as long as I was here. Go figure. What a fuckin' soap opera, right? So anyway, a few of these folks left, and started their own forum, one on which they can supposedly say anything they want about their so-called peak experiences, without anyone pissing in their cyberpunchbowl. One would think they'd be happy, and...uh...stay over there, where they claim things are so much better. But n. A hard-core few of them spend more time writing to Fairfield Life than they do The_Leak, saying essentially the same thing over and over and over: We don't like it over here, because a few people don't treat us with the respect we deserve when we talk about 'spiritual' topics. These people are BAD, and should be made to go away, so we can 'share' our spiritual experiences without fear of interruption or embarrassing demands for proof of our claims. Blah-blah-blah. You know the whine...you've heard it now for quite some time. My contention in this post is that the whining comes directly from how they were taught to act and live by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. HE was the one who taught these TM followers that the only safe way they could live in this world was to clump together in groups. If you were doing Maharishi's program correctly, you had to live in TM-only communities, reside in TM-approved houses, bounce on your butts together several times a day, and participate in the sessions in which you share experiences and get them voted #1 experiences or #2 experiences or whatever. In those sharing sessions, there were always two sides to the sharing. A few people would have actual experiences to share, and if they were deemed #1 experiences, everybody would look at them in an envious way and inwardly go Woo!, and they'd actually get some attention. In the TMO, with its we-only-have-one-leader-and-he's-the-only-one-there-will-ever-be-allowed-to-become-the-focus-of-attention mentality, getting a little attention by talking about your spiritual experiences in one of these sharing sessions was pretty much the only attention you were ever going to get. The other side of the sharing experience was personified by the much larger vast majority of people who never had anything to share. THEY were there because many of them had never really ever HAD a major spiritual experience, and they needed to hear other people talk about *theirs* so as not to lose hope. It was the same rationale as all the TM research -- even if you had never had any experiences in decades of meditating that felt like the enlightenment you were promised, you could still have hope if you heard other people talking about *their* experiences or saw some chart that suggested they were actually *having* experiences. Now think about Fairfield Life. Same thing. Same dynamic. Sure, when Rick started the forum, it was intended as a safe forum for people who had gripes with the TMO to express them, and some of that has determined the character and the nature of the forum ever since. But for a smaller number of FFL participants, this was a place where they could come and act out the two sides of the dome sharing experience in cyberspace. Those who were hungry for attention could talk about their supposedly spiritual experiences, and a few people would go Woo and they'd get some attention. There is no need to name these people, because everyone here knows exactly who they are. Then there were the others, the much larger vast majority of TM TB FFL
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see with Barry is his own fault
as fiction, or non-fiction? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richard@... wrote : Maybe if we break it down, Jim, we can understand what he's talking about. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote : Will someone please tell Barry that he is welcome to submit his application to me, for membership over at The Peak, at any time. But I do have a small requirement for him first, not reflected in his writing below: mental stability. Thanks. What's always boggled my mind is how many of the people who have *BEEN* kept in line by TM teachers and Governors of the Age of Enlightenment (I mean...just *think* about that term, and that people are *so* brainwashed that they take it for granted and never question it) react. Rather than resenting having been told what they can and cannot do and what they can and cannot think for years by these dweebs, *they aspire to be just like them*. Thus you find people like Jim Flanegin, who never had what it took to become a TM teacher, wanting to become just like them and impose his will on others and force them to live the way *he* wants them to. In a very real sense, this strikes me as the same kind of inherited behavior we see in victims of child abuse. Instead of growing up to hate such abuse, they tend to grow up to become abusers themselves. I find the very existence of The_Leak quite fascinating. It started because one person on FFL (Jim Flanegin) had a grudge against another person on FFL (moi) because he wouldn't buy into his (ludicrous) claims of being enlightened. Mr. Enlightened got angrier and angrier and angrier until one day I used a throwaway phrase to make a point, and Jimbo went fuckin' crazy over it and started slinging libel accusing me of being a pedophile, and encouraging people to sic the authorities on me in the real world. He *also* did the same thing that Doug/Buck is *still* doing, and started appealing to Rick Archer to have me thrown off of FFL, and created whole threads with this in the Subject line, thus smearing my name in search engines. Rick of course ignored him like the idiotic control freak he was acting like. Me, because what he was doing was ILLEGAL and the very definition of libel, I sicced the Dutch cops on his ass. Mr. Enlightened reacted by not only NOT apologizing for the libel, but by running away and forming his own group, where he has now developed a history of banning anyone who dares to say something he doesn't like. It's not just the COWARDICE of all of this that gets me, but the abused trying to become the abuser phenomenon that makes me roll my eyes. After all these years of being indoctrinated by the TM movement, it's understandable that someone with as weak an intellect as Jimbo's can no longer even *conceive* of thinking any way other than he's been told to think. What is less understandable is that he wants to be able to do to other people what was done to him. I guess he finally managed it, by creating a forum on which *HE* has the final word on what anyone can say and what they can't. I hope he's finally happy. That would be a first, in the entire time I've known him on the Internet. I honestly hope that Jimbo and his followers have a grand time over on The_Leak. He gets to finally be the control freak he's always wanted to be, and his followers get to feel superior to those they've left behind. But the bottom line is that they simply couldn't handle dealing with a forum on which people were allowed to express their own ideas as they wanted. They're only comfortable on a forum in which the ways they're *allowed* to interact with others is dictated to them. If anyone is looking to define the legacy of the TM movement, I would suggest that this is it. I did my weekly scan of The_Leak this morning as my Dutch cop friends have advised me to do, just to make sure that the weasel who created the group isn't still spouting libel about me. He doesn't seem to be, so it would seem that even the dumbest people can finally learn if you just hit them over the head with reality enough times. :-) However, scanning a few of the posts quickly just to get a feel for what they talk about over there, it occurs to me that a few of them are still holding onto grudges and fostering the notion that they were pushed out of FFL and forced to create another group because Rick didn't protect them and their interests on FFL. This strikes me as so delusional I felt I should discuss it a bit. First, Fairfield Life was NEVER created for them, meaning as a place of refuge (the actual word that Buck used in one of his latest gripes) for TM True Believers. It's ASTOUNDING that anyone could *possibly* believe that. FFL has -- since Day One -- been the *opposite* of a refuge for TBs. Its charter is right there
Re: [FairfieldLife] A Philip K Dick Speech
The film, Extraterrestrial, was a major pain in the ass. You want to experience that film? Here;Prepare yourself to be sorry you're watching but are already too invested to quit the film -- but get this -- sorry because the film is so dang good at manipulating your mind using now well known moviedom tactics and it becomes tiresome to have to keep coming upright and getting pissed at the attempts, nd, then the film grabs you again and you forgive the psychiatric rape until, YES AGAIN, they sit you up straight with the abusive fucking hacking at your mind's underpinings, and, BAM, they suddenly switch gears on ya and you're in a whole new milieu and this cheap trick makes you stay in the film even longer without fastforwarding because you can't believe these characters are now going to have to adjust to a WHOLEFUCKINGNEW paradign again and again so you just have to watch 20 more seconds and THAT'S ENOUGH time in which the present peril is heightened and then a few seconds of the next cut elsewhere in the script where another ongoing peril is being forwarded yet more while GET THIS the script is well written, and the acting's topnotch, and the direction's okay, and the editing is like PERFECT for triggering you again and again without resolve as it drags you relentlessly without your permission through some of the most overwrought scenes in which at least a dozen actors get to chew the scenery to shreds in massive bad emoting and it becomes obvious how they got a decent actor to take the lousy parts strewn throughout this film like shrapnel. Aand then the film lasts another 85 minutes with the ending being the most elongated TRUE LOVE scene in any slasher/alien/horror/scifi/everyone fucking dies film. It would win a daytime Emmy for sure. Took about a thousand hours of hyper-time.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see on FFL is Maharishi's fault
Jesus, Barry. Just come off it for a change. Give it a different slant. But, if really, if you want to stake a claim to your brand of spirituality, then so be it. But damn, I wish you'd have the courage to raise it up the flagpole, and see if anyone salutes. P.S. It ain't content, Barry. It just ain't. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com I think you are correct and I think it's pathological to insist that a chat room is not spiritual enough and then stay there dragging the place down instead of thinking of relevant contributions, especially when you have a ready made alternative just a mouse click away where all is sweetness and light. The word for it is, in fact, pathological. We've been pointing out to Steve and Doug (the only two of the 3 worth even bothering to try to interact with) for well over a year now, trying to get them to step back and realize that in all that time they haven't posted ANYTHING positive and spiritual to this supposedly spiritual forum they keep whining about. And they're *still* doing it, even though there is an alternative place to post where supposedly none of the obstacles to them revealing their spiritual sides exist. I think that anyone sane has to deduce from this that they don't actually *have* a spiritual side. They just like to bitch and harass people they consider their enemies. What a sad fuckin' life. Meanwhile, you and I and Michael and Anartaxius and aryavazhi and others they dump on have made dozens -- possibly hundreds -- of posts about spiritual topics. THEY HAVEN'T. I'm pointing this out so that it's right in their faces and they have to deal with it or lose all credibility whatsoever. I don't think any of them CAN post anything completely positive and spiritual at this point. They've dwelled so long in gray, lower-astral hate mindstates that they can't extract themselves from them. The need to stick around and bitch is symptomatic of something but I can't be bothered to do any research into it because it's so dull. I really hope there's no such thing as a life review when we die, because the three whining trolls here are going to really hate seeing how much of their lives they've spent saying the same thing over and over again. And to no effect. I wouldn't wish it on anyone. And one thing is really for sure, this aint spiritual behaviour. Or I read the wrong books. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : For some time now (over a year, and escalating after one particular person took a powder from the forum and essentially told everyone here to fuck off and die), the primary characteristic of the forum called Fairfield Life has IMO been whining. A few TM TBs, deprived of their version of Saint Joan to fight their battles for them against the invading hoard of infidels, tried to do the same thing themselves, and with disastrous results. Not being able to *stand* the fact that people who disagreed with them about the importance of TM, Maharishi, and above all their over-corpulent egos could express these thing freely here, they set about a non-stop snipe hunt in which they tried to demonize them and make them go away. That exercise in pettiness went so far that one of the constant heretic-attackers finally went over the line and resorted to actual slander -- he encouraged people to call or write officials in the home town of one poster he particularly hated, and tell them that he was a child molestor. Rightfully busted on this, he ran off with his tail between his legs and tried to form a new group, one in which supposedly right-thinking, *really* spiritual people like himself could talk about spirituality without being interrupted by horrible heretics like myself. It took less than a month for him to throw the first person off of his new forum, for the sin of revealing what he was up to back over on FFL, the forum he'd sworn he would never visit again as long as I was here. Go figure. What a fuckin' soap opera, right? So anyway, a few of these folks left, and started their own forum, one on which they can supposedly say anything they want about their so-called peak experiences, without anyone pissing in their cyberpunchbowl. One would think they'd be happy, and...uh...stay over there, where they claim things are so much better. But n. A hard-core few of them spend more time writing to Fairfield Life than they do The_Leak, saying essentially the same thing over and over and over: We don't like it over here, because a few people don't treat us with the respect we deserve when we talk about 'spiritual' topics. These people are BAD, and should be made to go away, so we can 'share' our spiritual experiences without fear of interruption or embarrassing demands for proof of our claims. Blah-blah-blah. You know the whine...you've heard it now for quite some
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see on FFL is Maharishi's fault
Nobody read it Barry. Your fan boy may have skimmed it. But, nobody read it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Yeah but look who he was saying it about. :-) But I understand...some people have short attention spans, and can't read more than 30 words. This post is for them. :-) From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 4:14 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see on FFL is Maharishi's fault As Antonio Salieri would say... too many notes! From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 7:12 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see on FFL is Maharishi's fault certifiable at this point? if anyone even reads it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : For some time now (over a year, and escalating after one particular person took a powder from the forum and essentially told everyone here to fuck off and die), the primary characteristic of the forum called Fairfield Life has IMO been whining. A few TM TBs, deprived of their version of Saint Joan to fight their battles for them against the invading hoard of infidels, tried to do the same thing themselves, and with disastrous results. Not being able to *stand* the fact that people who disagreed with them about the importance of TM, Maharishi, and above all their over-corpulent egos could express these thing freely here, they set about a non-stop snipe hunt in which they tried to demonize them and make them go away. That exercise in pettiness went so far that one of the constant heretic-attackers finally went over the line and resorted to actual slander -- he encouraged people to call or write officials in the home town of one poster he particularly hated, and tell them that he was a child molestor. Rightfully busted on this, he ran off with his tail between his legs and tried to form a new group, one in which supposedly right-thinking, *really* spiritual people like himself could talk about spirituality without being interrupted by horrible heretics like myself. It took less than a month for him to throw the first person off of his new forum, for the sin of revealing what he was up to back over on FFL, the forum he'd sworn he would never visit again as long as I was here. Go figure. What a fuckin' soap opera, right? So anyway, a few of these folks left, and started their own forum, one on which they can supposedly say anything they want about their so-called peak experiences, without anyone pissing in their cyberpunchbowl. One would think they'd be happy, and...uh...stay over there, where they claim things are so much better. But n. A hard-core few of them spend more time writing to Fairfield Life than they do The_Leak, saying essentially the same thing over and over and over: We don't like it over here, because a few people don't treat us with the respect we deserve when we talk about 'spiritual' topics. These people are BAD, and should be made to go away, so we can 'share' our spiritual experiences without fear of interruption or embarrassing demands for proof of our claims. Blah-blah-blah. You know the whine...you've heard it now for quite some time. My contention in this post is that the whining comes directly from how they were taught to act and live by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. HE was the one who taught these TM followers that the only safe way they could live in this world was to clump together in groups. If you were doing Maharishi's program correctly, you had to live in TM-only communities, reside in TM-approved houses, bounce on your butts together several times a day, and participate in the sessions in which you share experiences and get them voted #1 experiences or #2 experiences or whatever. In those sharing sessions, there were always two sides to the sharing. A few people would have actual experiences to share, and if they were deemed #1 experiences, everybody would look at them in an envious way and inwardly go Woo!, and they'd actually get some attention. In the TMO, with its we-only-have-one-leader-and-he's-the-only-one-there-will-ever-be-allowed-to-become-the-focus-of-attention mentality, getting a little attention by talking about your spiritual experiences in one of these sharing sessions was pretty much the only attention you were ever going to get. The other side of the sharing experience was personified by the much larger vast majority of people who never had anything to share. THEY were there because many of them had never really ever HAD a major spiritual experience, and they needed to hear other people talk about *theirs* so as not to lose hope. It was the same rationale as all the TM research -- even