[FairfieldLife] TM As a Yoga of Renunciation

[jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Although TM is generally considered a technique for Karma Yoga, it has an 
element of renunciation working along with the active pursuit of attaining 
transcendental consciousness or the union with the divine intelligence.  So, 
the famous Maharishi Effect can be described as the effect of a yoga of loss, 
which sounds counter-intuitive but can be understood in the language of 
jyotish.  How can there be an advantage to a loss?
 

 Here is how:
 

 First, meditation by itself is an activity relating to the 12th house, or the 
loss of anything, including thoughts.  However, the increase in this activity 
causes causes a mysterious increase, called argala, in the
 

 A.  11th house, which is the field related to friends, spouse and unearned 
gains.
 

 B.  2nd house, which is related to family, food and wealth and knowledge.
 

 C.  9th house, which is related to good luck, or bhagya, the guru and 
religion.  Since this the 10th house or karma from the 12th house, it is 
related to samadhi, the siddhis, and higher knowledge.
 

 So, the ME may be supported by scientific studies.  But it's already predicted 
in the techniques of jyotish.

[FairfieldLife] Global Transformation

[jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

At the present time, we have two major malefic conjunctions, Jupiter-Rahu in 
Leo and Saturn-Mars in Scorpio, that are contributing to the violence that we 
see today.  These are indications of a phase transition or the cleansing of the 
evil in the world that will eventually lead to a peaceful time when Jupiter 
escapes the clutches of Rahu.   There will be major battles in the next few 
months culminating in a major confrontation this summer.  We are already 
witnessing the battle lines being drawn, between the coalition forces against 
ISIS,  in Mosul, Iraq and in Syria.  Due to the overwhelming advantage of the 
coalition forces, ISIS, Al Qaeda and the Taliban will eventually be defeated.  
Terrorism will be condemned by all people and all religions in the four corners 
of the world, because of the horrific crimes that these so-called jihadists 
have committed.  
 

 The forces of good will eventually triumph and the evil ones will be banished.
 

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 ISLAMABAD (AP) — A bombing on Easter Sunday killed 65 people in a park in the 
eastern city of Lahore that was crowded with Christians, including man...
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Emily, are you not understanding that the FBI has said that they can not 
properly vet these refugees?


  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 11:35 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again
   
    Did I say I wanted open borders?  No, I didn't.  Did I say I wanted to 
exclude whole populations?  No I didn't  
By the way, the bill for potential "refugees" is considering refugees from all 
over the world, not just Syria.  

How many refugees does the United States admit?
Each year the President, in consultation with Congress, determines the 
numerical ceiling for refugee admissions. For Fiscal Year (FY) 2016, the 
proposed ceiling is 85,000. Refugee Ceilings and Admitted Refugees to the 
United States, FY 2009-2015
(Source: Refugee Processing Center)

   
   - Over one-third of all refugee arrivals (35.1 percent, or 24,579) in FY 
2015 came from the Near East/South Asia—a region that includes Iraq, Iran, 
Bhutan, and Afghanistan. 
   - Another third of all refugee arrivals (32.1 percent, or 22,472) in FY 2015 
came from Africa.
   - Over a quarter of all refugee arrivals (26.4 percent, or 18,469) in FY 
2015 came from East Asia — a region that includes China, Vietnam, and Indonesia.

Are you not understanding that the majority of Syrian refugees applying are 
women and children?  Are you not understanding that it is a vetting process 
that takes up to TWO YEARS as currently structured?  
Mike, these are the facts!  What are you making up in your head?  
Yes, ISIS is a terrorist group and they are engaging in terrorist activities 
and it's a real bummer for everyone.  I am sure that we will do our best as a 
nation to keep terrorists out.  As we are doing currently.  
Honestly, Mike, I believe strongly we need to take stock of our domestic 
situation.  My priorities are different though.  Building a wall for billions 
and billions of dollars is not even on the list. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

The latest Omnibus spending bill has funding for up to 300,000 refugees over 
the next few years. Doesn't mean there will be that many but the potential is 
there.The FBI has said there is no way to thoroughly  vet these refugees. There 
are no public records available on them. All public records in Syria have been 
destroyed due to the war. ISIS also captured a passport office in Syria and has 
thousands of blank Passports. ISIS has openly threatened to send their people 
here as they have done in Europe. There is no point in admitting people here if 
we don't know who they are and the FBI has admitted there is no way to really 
know who each refugee is.
As for a wall, so you want open borders. Let Mexico and central America send 
anyone and everyone( you did say whole populations, didn't you) they want with 
no restraints. WTF wouldn't come?Why not several hundred million Indians and 
Chinese?With populations in the billions, they wouldn't miss a few. I bet they 
need jobs and just want to improve their lives also. Why even bother to make 
them come here to improve their lives? Why not just tax the hell out of 
everybody here and send the money to people in their native countries where the 
dollars will go further? Better yet, if you want to be *enriched* by their 
cultures , why don't you just go live with them.

  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 9:53 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again
 
 You and I support the same thing theoretically; I support a *controlled* entry 
and exit of foreigners also.  Absolutely.  SO DOES THE UNITED STATES.  It's why 
I carry a passport when I travel; other countries do too.  
We can't be the world's safety net and we aren't, with respect to the Syrian 
refugees.  Remember that Obama, whom you despise doesn't think we should be the 
world's policeman either and has been working to build coalitions from the get 
go in the Middle East.  
This what is so funny to me.  LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, MIKE (It's in the fact sheet 
I posted to you) and try and convince me there are hundreds of thousands of 
Syrian refugees, every one a potential terrorist, invading our borders 
unfairly. The majority are staying in the Middle East, first of all.  
"A total of 2,290 Syrian refugees have arrived in the United States since 
fiscal year 2011, which is when the Syrian civil war began, through Nov. 20, 
according to the State Department’s Refugee Processing Center. 

“It’s very important for people to know there’s a big, big difference between 
the relative chaotic scene we’ve seen played out in Europe and the resettlement 
process in the United States,” Boian said."

"The way it works is that after the State Department has approved a refugee for 
resettlement in the U.S. — a process that can take up to two years — the 
refugee is referred to one of nine domestic resettlement agencies, each with a 
network of aff

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Did I say I wanted open borders?  No, I didn't.  Did I say I wanted to exclude 
whole populations?  No I didn't   

 By the way, the bill for potential "refugees" is considering refugees from all 
over the world, not just Syria.  
 

 How many refugees does the United States admit? Each year the President, in 
consultation with Congress, determines the numerical ceiling for refugee 
admissions. For Fiscal Year (FY) 2016, the proposed ceiling is 85,000 
http://www.state.gov/j/prm/releases/docsforcongress/247770.htm. 
 Refugee Ceilings and Admitted Refugees to the United States, FY 2009-2015
 
(Source: Refugee Processing Center 
http://www.wrapsnet.org/Reports/AdmissionsArrivals)


 Over one-third of all refugee arrivals (35.1 percent 
http://www.wrapsnet.org/Reports/AdmissionsArrivals, or 24,579) in FY 2015 came 
from the Near East/South Asia—a region that includes Iraq, Iran, Bhutan, and 
Afghanistan.  Another third of all refugee arrivals (32.1 percent, or 22,472) 
in FY 2015 came from Africa. Over a quarter of all refugee arrivals (26.4 
percent, or 18,469) in FY 2015 came from East Asia — a region that includes 
China, Vietnam, and Indonesia. 

 Are you not understanding that the majority of Syrian refugees applying are 
women and children?  Are you not understanding that it is a vetting process 
that takes up to TWO YEARS as currently structured?  
 

 Mike, these are the facts!  What are you making up in your head?  
 

 Yes, ISIS is a terrorist group and they are engaging in terrorist activities 
and it's a real bummer for everyone.  I am sure that we will do our best as a 
nation to keep terrorists out.  As we are doing currently.  
 

 Honestly, Mike, I believe strongly we need to take stock of our domestic 
situation.  My priorities are different though.  Building a wall for billions 
and billions of dollars is not even on the list.  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The latest Omnibus spending bill has funding for up to 300,000 refugees over 
the next few years. Doesn't mean there will be that many but the potential is 
there.The FBI has said there is no way to thoroughly  vet these refugees. There 
are no public records available on them. All public records in Syria have been 
destroyed due to the war. ISIS also captured a passport office in Syria and has 
thousands of blank Passports. ISIS has openly threatened to send their people 
here as they have done in Europe. There is no point in admitting people here if 
we don't know who they are and the FBI has admitted there is no way to really 
know who each refugee is.

 As for a wall, so you want open borders. Let Mexico and central America send 
anyone and everyone( you did say whole populations, didn't you) they want with 
no restraints. WTF wouldn't come?Why not several hundred million Indians and 
Chinese?With populations in the billions, they wouldn't miss a few. I bet they 
need jobs and just want to improve their lives also. Why even bother to make 
them come here to improve their lives? Why not just tax the hell out of 
everybody here and send the money to people in their native countries where the 
dollars will go further? Better yet, if you want to be *enriched* by their 
cultures , why don't you just go live with them.
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 9:53 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again
 
 
   You and I support the same thing theoretically; I support a *controlled* 
entry and exit of foreigners also.  Absolutely.  SO DOES THE UNITED STATES.  
It's why I carry a passport when I travel; other countries do too.  
 

 We can't be the world's safety net and we aren't, with respect to the Syrian 
refugees.  Remember that Obama, whom you despise doesn't think we should be the 
world's policeman either and has been working to build coalitions from the get 
go in the Middle East.  
 

 This what is so funny to me.  LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, MIKE (It's in the fact 
sheet I posted to you) and try and convince me there are hundreds of thousands 
of Syrian refugees, every one a potential terrorist, invading our borders 
unfairly. The majority are staying in the Middle East, first of all.  
 

 "A total of 2,290 Syrian refugees have arrived in the United States since 
fiscal year 2011, which is when the Syrian civil war began 
https://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RL33487.pdf, through Nov. 20, according to 
the State Department’s Refugee Processing Center 
http://www.wrapsnet.org/Reports/InteractiveReporting/tabid/393/EnumType/Report/Default.aspx?ItemPath=/rpt_WebArrivalsReports/MX%20-%20Arrivals%20by%20Nationality%20and%20Religion.
 

 

 “It’s very important for people to know there’s a big, big difference between 
the relative chaotic scene we’ve seen played out in Europe and the resettlement 
process in the United States,” Boian said."

 

 "The way it works is that after the State Department has approved a refugee 
for resettlement in the U.

Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I fail to see any of the individuals that you have pictured as having 
accomplished anything on the scale that Al Qaeda or ISIS has.
They are for the most part Freaking individual nuts. 
ISIS is an organization that represents an ideology based on a political 
religion that tolerates no other ideologies. BIG DIFFERENCE!So, I guess you can 
live with how Islamic culture treats women and other minority groups because  
diversity is a wonderful thing to be experienced!
  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 10:12 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

So you want to add to the problems that already exist.
False conclusion, Mike. I am making a point that aberrational human beings are 
just that, aberrational, irrespective of whatever country or culture they come 
from. And America has its share, for sure, irrespective of their color or race. 
Why you insist on harping on about Muslims and culture is beyond me - in the 
case of the refugees it is moot. A bad guy is a bad guy - get over it.


  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 7:43 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] For Mike
 
 


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Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Whatever it takes. BTW, I would tax every bank transfer under a predetermined 
amount from the US to Mexico or Central America. That way, the illegals will 
contribute to pay for the wall.


  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 10:01 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again
   
    Mike, I wish you peace of mind and equanimity.  
P.S. Don't you think the wall should be built the same height below as above 
the surface?  Get out your pocketbook Mike and determine how much of your 
savings/retirement you are willing to contribute. Me, I'll take my chances.   

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

There is no job that a Latin American will do, that some American citizen 
wouldn't do if paid adequately for. When you swim across a river or hike 
through a desert, avoiding immigration authorities to enter a country, have 
fake identification , using false Social Security numbers to get jobs, you have 
avoided  all controls.The tunnels are an example of NO CONTROLS!
That is why I support a wall, a magnificent wall! It might not stop all illegal 
trafficking but it sure would slow it to a trickle if done right.

  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 4:38 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again
 
 Ha ha Mike...what jobs have they undercut for Americans?  Oh, the cheap 
migrant labor jobs that no American citizen will do?  They hold down wages?  
That's hysterical!!  Boy, you sure are giving a lot of power to these poor 
migrant workers.  What about outsourcing by corporations?  Who said there were 
no controls in place?  You?  Drugs are coming in illegally, controls or no 
controls.  Read about the latest tunnel discovered?  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

We owed a home to the Vietnamese that came here. They pretty much served with 
our military while we were there. They have adapted and assimilated well. The 
overwhelming majority of Mexican and Central American immigrants came here 
illegally, exploited for their cheap labor by the chamber of commerce and 
exploited as a new underclass for their potential as voters. They undercut 
Americans for jobs, holding down wages, then seek public assistance to 
supplement their low wages.With no controls on who comes in and out, a criminal 
element comes along with them bringing drugs and crime.


  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 2:44 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again

 We have accepted millions of Vietnamese, Mexicans, Central Americans and 
others. No big deal. The real problem this country faces is the entrenched 
racism and xenophobia, much of which is being directed at our current 
president. 
These are not Christian ideas, or well-thought out principles being expressed - 
it is rank ignorance, arrogance and fear. The current economic nightmare we are 
facing has NOTHING to do with minorites and immigrants, but rather legislation 
passed mainly by a bunch of old rich white guys. They are the enemy and the 
ones who should be expelled from this great country. The one percenter, 
anti-job, anti-equality, anti-government radicals are the ones destroying this 
country a hell of a lot more effectively than ISIS or any other Islamic 
organization could. Jesus would be deeply ashamed.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Right, there is *intent* to play the emotions, especially when you show 
bloodied children and lifeless bodies. What's the saying... A picture is worth 
a thousand words. The the next step is that we have to bring them all here into 
our communities or we are heartless bastards. Just as you predictably pointed 
out, the excuse is, *They will enrich our communities with diversity* That's 
just pure BS! There is no way to accurately vet who is coming, what their 
intent is, how or even if, they will adapt to a foreign culture. Meanwhile, 
ISIS is infiltrating the ranks of genuine refugees, intent on doing as much 
harm as they can. Other refugees, not all mind you, who may not be terrorists 
are exactly what liberals proclaim to hate... violent, misogynistic, homophobic 
, anti -Semitic, xenophobic bastards that are convinced that they are superior 
to anyone else. But then, how many women marry a man they are attracted to for 
some reason, knowing he has many faults that she can't stand but is convinced 
that she can *change* him. Sorry Anne, bringing large numbers of foreign people 
here that can't be properly vetted, especially from cultures that have a strong 
tendency to *not* assimilate and think your culture is inferior  is a bad idea. 
It's a far better idea to put pressure on neighboring countries to absorb the 
refugees until things settle down. Western and European countries could help 
foot the bill although the oil rich countries should be able to

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

The latest Omnibus spending bill has funding for up to 300,000 refugees over 
the next few years. Doesn't mean there will be that many but the potential is 
there.The FBI has said there is no way to thoroughly  vet these refugees. There 
are no public records available on them. All public records in Syria have been 
destroyed due to the war. ISIS also captured a passport office in Syria and has 
thousands of blank Passports. ISIS has openly threatened to send their people 
here as they have done in Europe. There is no point in admitting people here if 
we don't know who they are and the FBI has admitted there is no way to really 
know who each refugee is.
As for a wall, so you want open borders. Let Mexico and central America send 
anyone and everyone( you did say whole populations, didn't you) they want with 
no restraints. WTF wouldn't come?Why not several hundred million Indians and 
Chinese?With populations in the billions, they wouldn't miss a few. I bet they 
need jobs and just want to improve their lives also. Why even bother to make 
them come here to improve their lives? Why not just tax the hell out of 
everybody here and send the money to people in their native countries where the 
dollars will go further? Better yet, if you want to be *enriched* by their 
cultures , why don't you just go live with them.

  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 9:53 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again
   
    You and I support the same thing theoretically; I support a *controlled* 
entry and exit of foreigners also.  Absolutely.  SO DOES THE UNITED STATES.  
It's why I carry a passport when I travel; other countries do too.  
We can't be the world's safety net and we aren't, with respect to the Syrian 
refugees.  Remember that Obama, whom you despise doesn't think we should be the 
world's policeman either and has been working to build coalitions from the get 
go in the Middle East.  
This what is so funny to me.  LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, MIKE (It's in the fact sheet 
I posted to you) and try and convince me there are hundreds of thousands of 
Syrian refugees, every one a potential terrorist, invading our borders 
unfairly. The majority are staying in the Middle East, first of all.  
"A total of 2,290 Syrian refugees have arrived in the United States since 
fiscal year 2011, which is when the Syrian civil war began, through Nov. 20, 
according to the State Department’s Refugee Processing Center. 

“It’s very important for people to know there’s a big, big difference between 
the relative chaotic scene we’ve seen played out in Europe and the resettlement 
process in the United States,” Boian said."

"The way it works is that after the State Department has approved a refugee for 
resettlement in the U.S. — a process that can take up to two years — the 
refugee is referred to one of nine domestic resettlement agencies, each with a 
network of affiliates fanned across the country.It is those resettlement 
agencies — which gather weekly — that make decisions about where to place new, 
incoming refugees.The chief consideration is whether the refugee has family 
ties in the United States, said Matthew Soerens, a spokesman for World Relief, 
one of the nine resettlement agencies. If a refugee does, every effort is made 
to place that person near relatives. That is why, he said, larger numbers of 
Syrian refugees are placed in Michigan, Illinois, Pennsylvania and California, 
where there are small pockets of Syrian Americans.Absent family ties in the 
U.S., Soerens said, the agencies try to relocate people where there are 
available jobs. Each of the nine resettlement agencies works with its network 
of affiliates spread across the country. In the case of World Relief, an 
evangelical organization, that network is often through evangelical church 
organizations."
I also believe in the need to integrate refugees into our society and I think 
we have a responsibility to assist.  I also know that employing extremist 
measures (e.g., building a wall or refusing entry to whole populations) is 
nothing less than the product of fear and completely irrational.  

What we need for all our citizens and those immigrating both are education, 
affordable housing and living wages, I agree.  Living off of welfare benefits 
is virtually impossible and I'm guessing very, very, few people have that 
intention or even know enough to know how to attempt it.  It's comical.  One 
will spend years in shelters before one gets federal, subsidized, housing here, 
which is still pro-rated for income.  Food benefits are less than $200/month 
here per individual and require a half-time job. Just try to get a specialized 
doctor to accept the medicaid version of Obamacare.  Did you ever try to live 
on minimum wage?  I did.  Thank God education was cheaper back then and I 
didn't end up starting off with $30,000 in debt, like kids are now.  
You really are an "u

Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 So you want to add to the problems that already exist.
 

 False conclusion, Mike. I am making a point that aberrational human beings are 
just that, aberrational, irrespective of whatever country or culture they come 
from. And America has its share, for sure, irrespective of their color or race. 
Why you insist on harping on about Muslims and culture is beyond me - in the 
case of the refugees it is moot. A bad guy is a bad guy - get over it.
 
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 7:43 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] For Mike
 
 
   
 


 

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Mike, I wish you peace of mind and equanimity.   

 P.S. Don't you think the wall should be built the same height below as above 
the surface?  Get out your pocketbook Mike and determine how much of your 
savings/retirement you are willing to contribute. Me, I'll take my chances.   
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 There is no job that a Latin American will do, that some American citizen 
wouldn't do if paid adequately for. When you swim across a river or hike 
through a desert, avoiding immigration authorities to enter a country, have 
fake identification , using false Social Security numbers to get jobs, you have 
avoided  all controls.The tunnels are an example of NO CONTROLS!

 That is why I support a wall, a magnificent wall! It might not stop all 
illegal trafficking but it sure would slow it to a trickle if done right.
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 4:38 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again
 
 
   Ha ha Mike...what jobs have they undercut for Americans?  Oh, the cheap 
migrant labor jobs that no American citizen will do?  They hold down wages?  
That's hysterical!!  Boy, you sure are giving a lot of power to these poor 
migrant workers.  What about outsourcing by corporations?  Who said there were 
no controls in place?  You?  Drugs are coming in illegally, controls or no 
controls.  Read about the latest tunnel discovered?  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 We owed a home to the Vietnamese that came here. They pretty much served with 
our military while we were there. They have adapted and assimilated well. The 
overwhelming majority of Mexican and Central American immigrants came here 
illegally, exploited for their cheap labor by the chamber of commerce and 
exploited as a new underclass for their potential as voters. They undercut 
Americans for jobs, holding down wages, then seek public assistance to 
supplement their low wages.With no controls on who comes in and out, a criminal 
element comes along with them bringing drugs and crime.

 
 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 2:44 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again

 
   We have accepted millions of Vietnamese, Mexicans, Central Americans and 
others. No big deal. The real problem this country faces is the entrenched 
racism and xenophobia, much of which is being directed at our current 
president. 
 

 These are not Christian ideas, or well-thought out principles being expressed 
- it is rank ignorance, arrogance and fear. The current economic nightmare we 
are facing has NOTHING to do with minorites and immigrants, but rather 
legislation passed mainly by a bunch of old rich white guys. They are the enemy 
and the ones who should be expelled from this great country. The one percenter, 
anti-job, anti-equality, anti-government radicals are the ones destroying this 
country a hell of a lot more effectively than ISIS or any other Islamic 
organization could. Jesus would be deeply ashamed.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Right, there is *intent* to play the emotions, especially when you show 
bloodied children and lifeless bodies. What's the saying... A picture is worth 
a thousand words. The the next step is that we have to bring them all here into 
our communities or we are heartless bastards. Just as you predictably pointed 
out, the excuse is, *They will enrich our communities with diversity* That's 
just pure BS! There is no way to accurately vet who is coming, what their 
intent is, how or even if, they will adapt to a foreign culture. Meanwhile, 
ISIS is infiltrating the ranks of genuine refugees, intent on doing as much 
harm as they can. Other refugees, not all mind you, who may not be terrorists 
are exactly what liberals proclaim to hate... violent, misogynistic, homophobic 
, anti -Semitic, xenophobic bastards that are convinced that they are superior 
to anyone else. But then, how many women marry a man they are attracted to for 
some reason, knowing he has many faults that she can't stand but is convinced 
that she can *change* him. Sorry Anne, bringing large numbers of foreign people 
here that can't be properly vetted, especially from cultures that have a strong 
tendency to *not* assimilate and think your culture is inferior  is a bad idea. 
It's a far better idea to put pressure on neighboring countries to absorb the 
refugees until things settle down. Western and European countries could help 
foot the bill although the oil rich countries should be able to handle it.
 

 
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 8:20 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 No one has said  anything about *design* to trick anybody. A wealthy person 
can give all that he h

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

You and I support the same thing theoretically; I support a *controlled* entry 
and exit of foreigners also.  Absolutely.  SO DOES THE UNITED STATES.  It's why 
I carry a passport when I travel; other countries do too.   

 We can't be the world's safety net and we aren't, with respect to the Syrian 
refugees.  Remember that Obama, whom you despise doesn't think we should be the 
world's policeman either and has been working to build coalitions from the get 
go in the Middle East.  
 

 This what is so funny to me.  LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, MIKE (It's in the fact 
sheet I posted to you) and try and convince me there are hundreds of thousands 
of Syrian refugees, every one a potential terrorist, invading our borders 
unfairly. The majority are staying in the Middle East, first of all.  
 

 "A total of 2,290 Syrian refugees have arrived in the United States since 
fiscal year 2011, which is when the Syrian civil war began 
https://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RL33487.pdf, through Nov. 20, according to 
the State Department’s Refugee Processing Center 
http://www.wrapsnet.org/Reports/InteractiveReporting/tabid/393/EnumType/Report/Default.aspx?ItemPath=/rpt_WebArrivalsReports/MX%20-%20Arrivals%20by%20Nationality%20and%20Religion.
 

 

 “It’s very important for people to know there’s a big, big difference between 
the relative chaotic scene we’ve seen played out in Europe and the resettlement 
process in the United States,” Boian said."

 

 "The way it works is that after the State Department has approved a refugee 
for resettlement in the U.S. — a process 
http://www.rcusa.org/uploads/pdfs/Refugee%20resettlement%20-%20step%20by%20step%20USCRI.pdf
 that can take up to two years — the refugee is referred to one of nine 
domestic resettlement agencies 
http://www.state.gov/j/prm/ra/receptionplacement/index.htm, each with a network 
of affiliates fanned across the country.
 It is those resettlement agencies — which gather weekly — that make decisions 
about where to place new, incoming refugees.
 The chief consideration is whether the refugee has family ties in the United 
States, said Matthew Soerens, a spokesman for World Relief, one of the nine 
resettlement agencies 
http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/orr/resource/voluntary-agencies. If a refugee 
does, every effort is made to place that person near relatives. That is why, he 
said, larger numbers of Syrian refugees are placed in Michigan, Illinois, 
Pennsylvania and California, where there are small pockets of Syrian Americans.
 Absent family ties in the U.S., Soerens said, the agencies try to relocate 
people where there are available jobs. Each of the nine resettlement agencies 
works with its network of affiliates spread across the country. In the case of 
World Relief, an evangelical organization, that network is often through 
evangelical church organizations."

 

 I also believe in the need to integrate refugees into our society and I think 
we have a responsibility to assist.  I also know that employing extremist 
measures (e.g., building a wall or refusing entry to whole populations) is 
nothing less than the product of fear and completely irrational.  

 

 What we need for all our citizens and those immigrating both are education, 
affordable housing and living wages, I agree.  Living off of welfare benefits 
is virtually impossible and I'm guessing very, very, few people have that 
intention or even know enough to know how to attempt it.  It's comical.  One 
will spend years in shelters before one gets federal, subsidized, housing here, 
which is still pro-rated for income.  Food benefits are less than $200/month 
here per individual and require a half-time job. Just try to get a specialized 
doctor to accept the medicaid version of Obamacare.  Did you ever try to live 
on minimum wage?  I did.  Thank God education was cheaper back then and I 
didn't end up starting off with $30,000 in debt, like kids are now.  
 

 You really are an "us and them" kind of a guy.  And "they" are the enemy.  
Ever meditate with the Quakers?  Might be a good experience to hook up with a 
different crowd and practice changing your perceptions.  Change is the only 
constant, after all.  Staying stuck in your views will only bring you pain and 
suffering and rage and anger and intolerance and impatience and greed and etc.  
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Yes Emily, we live in totally different worlds.You, in how you think it should 
be and me, how it actually functions. I support a *controlled* entry and exit 
of foreigners. We have to know *who* is coming in and what their intentions 
are. And we can't be the world's safety net. There are literally hundreds of 
millions of people in the world that would love to come here and suck off the 
big tit of the American government and maybe try to make it if they can. At 
what point do YOU say *enough*! 

 
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 

Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

BTW, some of those would be more likely found at a Bernie Sanders rally.


  From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 8:55 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike
   
    So you want to add to the problems that already exist.


  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 7:43 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] For Mike
  
    
  

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Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

So you want to add to the problems that already exist.


  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 7:43 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] For Mike
   
    
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Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

There is no job that a Latin American will do, that some American citizen 
wouldn't do if paid adequately for. When you swim across a river or hike 
through a desert, avoiding immigration authorities to enter a country, have 
fake identification , using false Social Security numbers to get jobs, you have 
avoided  all controls.The tunnels are an example of NO CONTROLS!
That is why I support a wall, a magnificent wall! It might not stop all illegal 
trafficking but it sure would slow it to a trickle if done right.

  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 4:38 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again
   
    Ha ha Mike...what jobs have they undercut for Americans?  Oh, the cheap 
migrant labor jobs that no American citizen will do?  They hold down wages?  
That's hysterical!!  Boy, you sure are giving a lot of power to these poor 
migrant workers.  What about outsourcing by corporations?  Who said there were 
no controls in place?  You?  Drugs are coming in illegally, controls or no 
controls.  Read about the latest tunnel discovered?  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

We owed a home to the Vietnamese that came here. They pretty much served with 
our military while we were there. They have adapted and assimilated well. The 
overwhelming majority of Mexican and Central American immigrants came here 
illegally, exploited for their cheap labor by the chamber of commerce and 
exploited as a new underclass for their potential as voters. They undercut 
Americans for jobs, holding down wages, then seek public assistance to 
supplement their low wages.With no controls on who comes in and out, a criminal 
element comes along with them bringing drugs and crime.


  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 2:44 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again
 
 We have accepted millions of Vietnamese, Mexicans, Central Americans and 
others. No big deal. The real problem this country faces is the entrenched 
racism and xenophobia, much of which is being directed at our current 
president. 
These are not Christian ideas, or well-thought out principles being expressed - 
it is rank ignorance, arrogance and fear. The current economic nightmare we are 
facing has NOTHING to do with minorites and immigrants, but rather legislation 
passed mainly by a bunch of old rich white guys. They are the enemy and the 
ones who should be expelled from this great country. The one percenter, 
anti-job, anti-equality, anti-government radicals are the ones destroying this 
country a hell of a lot more effectively than ISIS or any other Islamic 
organization could. Jesus would be deeply ashamed.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Right, there is *intent* to play the emotions, especially when you show 
bloodied children and lifeless bodies. What's the saying... A picture is worth 
a thousand words. The the next step is that we have to bring them all here into 
our communities or we are heartless bastards. Just as you predictably pointed 
out, the excuse is, *They will enrich our communities with diversity* That's 
just pure BS! There is no way to accurately vet who is coming, what their 
intent is, how or even if, they will adapt to a foreign culture. Meanwhile, 
ISIS is infiltrating the ranks of genuine refugees, intent on doing as much 
harm as they can. Other refugees, not all mind you, who may not be terrorists 
are exactly what liberals proclaim to hate... violent, misogynistic, homophobic 
, anti -Semitic, xenophobic bastards that are convinced that they are superior 
to anyone else. But then, how many women marry a man they are attracted to for 
some reason, knowing he has many faults that she can't stand but is convinced 
that she can *change* him. Sorry Anne, bringing large numbers of foreign people 
here that can't be properly vetted, especially from cultures that have a strong 
tendency to *not* assimilate and think your culture is inferior  is a bad idea. 
It's a far better idea to put pressure on neighboring countries to absorb the 
refugees until things settle down. Western and European countries could help 
foot the bill although the oil rich countries should be able to handle it.


  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 8:20 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again

 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

No one has said  anything about *design* to trick anybody. A wealthy person can 
give all that he has to help the poor and then become poor himself. What has he 
accomplished? Feeding a bunch of people for a day and then making himself poor 
as well, At that point, he becomes a victim as well, needing help himself. This 
is not being smart, not how he became wealthy in the first place. Better to 
have a strategy that helps all and doesn't hurt anyone.

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Yes Emily, we live in totally different worlds.You, in how you think it should 
be and me, how it actually functions. I support a *controlled* entry and exit 
of foreigners. We have to know *who* is coming in and what their intentions 
are. And we can't be the world's safety net. There are literally hundreds of 
millions of people in the world that would love to come here and suck off the 
big tit of the American government and maybe try to make it if they can. At 
what point do YOU say *enough*! 


  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 4:22 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again
   
    We live in two different worlds, Mike.  I don't envy you yours.  
Closing our borders to(Who? Everyone from the Middle East and 
Mexico?)___, which seems to be what you are now promoting below, will 
not stop terrorism.   
If you read the facts, the US right now is letting in very, very, few refugees 
(those fleeing from terror, let us remember) and those that are let in go 
through an arduous vetting process.  
My heart aches for every suicide bombing, that I can assure you of.  
"A breakaway Pakistani faction of the militant Taliban group has claimed 
responsibility for an Easter Sunday bombing in a park in the eastern city of 
Lahore that killed 65 people.Ahsanullah Ahsan, spokesman for Jamaat-ul-Ahrar, 
told the Associated Press that a suicide bomber with the faction deliberately 
targeted the Christian community."In the world of Christianity, "Christ is 
risen" and the faithful will ascend to be with Christ upon their death.  Let us 
hope their families can take some comfort in this.   

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Emily, your naivety astounds me. Numerous Somali refugees once living in 
Wisconsin  have already traveled to the middle east to join up with ISIS. You 
have the Tzarneav brothers responsible for the Boston bombings and the married 
couple in California from Pakistan and others I can't even remember. Numerous 
*refugee* from Syria and elsewhere are being caught sneaking across the 
southern border from Mexico. Nobody knows how many have not been caught or what 
their true intentions are. How many Paris or Brussels type attacks in the US do 
we have to have for you to wake up. I have no intentions of letting my country 
go the same route Europe has gone.News just broke about a suicide bombing in 
Pakistan by Taliban, killing numerous women and children, mostly Christian 
celebrating Easter. 

  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 11:37 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again
 
 Mike, you continue to be so far off base in your statements on refugees that 
are being allowed to come here, it's incredible.  You simply never adjust your 
position to reflect the facts; you rigidly adhere to what you *think* and then 
wallow in self-righteousness, despite all evidence to the contrary.  Fascinates 
me, really, as so many, like you adopt this different perception of reality.  
Your mind seems a very frightened place.  
Facts about the Syrian Refugees
|  |
|  | |  | Facts about the Syrian Refugees The Paris bombings and other 
recent terrorist attacks have given rise to a political debate within the 
United States about the Obama administration’s plan ... |  |
| View on www.factcheck.org|   Preview by Yahoo  |
|  |

  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Right, there is *intent* to play the emotions, especially when you show 
bloodied children and lifeless bodies. What's the saying... A picture is worth 
a thousand words. The the next step is that we have to bring them all here into 
our communities or we are heartless bastards. Just as you predictably pointed 
out, the excuse is, *They will enrich our communities with diversity* That's 
just pure BS! There is no way to accurately vet who is coming, what their 
intent is, how or even if, they will adapt to a foreign culture. Meanwhile, 
ISIS is infiltrating the ranks of genuine refugees, intent on doing as much 
harm as they can. Other refugees, not all mind you, who may not be terrorists 
are exactly what liberals proclaim to hate... violent, misogynistic, homophobic 
, anti -Semitic, xenophobic bastards that are convinced that they are superior 
to anyone else. But then, how many women marry a man they are attracted to for 
some reason, knowing he has many faults that she can't stand but is convinced 
that she can *change* him. Sorry Anne, bringing large numbers of foreign people 
here that can't be properly vetted, especially from cultures that have a strong 
tendency to *not* assimilate and think your culture is inferior  is a bad idea. 
It's a far better idea to put pressure on neighboring countries to absorb the 
refugees until things settle down. Western and European countries could help 
foot the bill although the oil rich cou

[FairfieldLife] For Mike

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Do you always *leap* before looking?
 

 Answer the question. Or maybe you did.
 
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 10:21 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Right, there is *intent* to play the emotions, especially when you show 
bloodied children and lifeless bodies. What's the saying... A picture is worth 
a thousand words. The the next step is that we have to bring them all here into 
our communities or we are heartless bastards. Just as you predictably pointed 
out, the excuse is, *They will enrich our communities with diversity* That's 
just pure BS! There is no way to accurately vet who is coming, what their 
intent is, how or even if, they will adapt to a foreign culture. Meanwhile, 
ISIS is infiltrating the ranks of genuine refugees, intent on doing as much 
harm as they can. Other refugees, not all mind you, who may not be terrorists 
are exactly what liberals proclaim to hate... violent, misogynistic, homophobic 
, anti -Semitic, xenophobic bastards that are convinced that they are superior 
to anyone else. But then, how many women marry a man they are attracted to for 
some reason, knowing he has many faults that she can't stand but is convinced 
that she can *change* him. Sorry Anne, bringing large numbers of foreign people 
here that can't be properly vetted, especially from cultures that have a strong 
tendency to *not* assimilate and think your culture is inferior  is a bad idea. 
It's a far better idea to put pressure on neighboring countries to absorb the 
refugees until things settle down. Western and European countries could help 
foot the bill although the oil rich countries should be able to handle it.
 

 Are you always "the glass is half empty" kind of guy, Mike?
 http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/11/26/refugees-economy-canada_n_8658076.html 
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/11/26/refugees-economy-canada_n_8658076.html

 

 
 


 
 









 














 


 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Yep, it was a blowout. I read that we were a "deep-blue" state.  I didn't know 
that.  15,000 people rallied the day before in Safeco; that in itself is pretty 
amazing.  Good that so many are getting involved.   
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Emily, congrats on my old home state feeling the Bern!
 
 On 03/27/2016 09:37 AM, emily.mae50@... mailto:emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   Mike, you continue to be so far off base in your statements on refugees that 
are being allowed to come here, it's incredible.  You simply never adjust your 
position to reflect the facts; you rigidly adhere to what you *think* and then 
wallow in self-righteousness, despite all evidence to the contrary.  Fascinates 
me, really, as so many, like you adopt this different perception of reality.  
Your mind seems a very frightened place.  
 

 Facts about the Syrian Refugees 
 
 
 
 Facts about the Syrian Refugees The Paris bombings and other recent terrorist 
attacks have given rise to a political debate within the United States about 
the Obama administration’s plan ...


 
 View on www.factcheck.org 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  
 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:mdixon.6569@... wrote :
 
 Right, there is *intent* to play the emotions, especially when you show 
bloodied children and lifeless bodies. What's the saying... A picture is worth 
a thousand words. The the next step is that we have to bring them all here into 
our communities or we are heartless bastards. Just as you predictably pointed 
out, the excuse is, *They will enrich our communities with diversity* That's 
just pure BS! There is no way to accurately vet who is coming, what their 
intent is, how or even if, they will adapt to a foreign culture. Meanwhile, 
ISIS is infiltrating the ranks of genuine refugees, intent on doing as much 
harm as they can. Other refugees, not all mind you, who may not be terrorists 
are exactly what liberals proclaim to hate... violent, misogynistic, homophobic 
, anti -Semitic, xenophobic bastards that are convinced that they are superior 
to anyone else. But then, how many women marry a man they are attracted to for 
some reason, knowing he has many faults that she can't stand but is convinced 
that she can *change* him. Sorry Anne, bringing large numbers of foreign people 
here that can't be properly vetted, especially from cultures that have a strong 
tendency to *not* assimilate and think your culture is inferior  is a bad idea. 
It's a far better idea to put pressure on neighboring countries to absorb the 
refugees until things settle down. Western and European countries could help 
foot the bill although the oil rich countries should be able to handle it.
 

 
 
 

 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
mailto:awoelflebater@...[FairfieldLife]  
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 8:20 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again
 
 
   

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:mdixon.6569@... wrote :
 
 No one has said  anything about *design* to trick anybody. A wealthy person 
can give all that he has to help the poor and then become poor himself. What 
has he accomplished? Feeding a bunch of people for a day and then making 
himself poor as well, At that point, he becomes a victim as well, needing help 
himself. This is not being smart, not how he became wealthy in the first place. 
Better to have a strategy that helps all and doesn't hurt anyone. The first 
rule of the Hippocratic oath is *do no harm*, neither to the patient nor the 
doctor. A dead doctor doesn't heal anyone!

 I'm sure Europe doesn't want to go through those bombed out buildings again.
 
 
 No, you used the word "intent" which implies some sort of manipulation of the 
viewer through the use of these photos. These are journalistic photographs of 
what is going on, not some staged actors playing the part of victims 
accompanied by saccharine background music. You can either accept it or not. 
You can either turn away or not. You can either put yourself 
mentally/imaginatively in these people's situation or not and try and 
understand the fear, the uncertainty, the devastation. You can realize that 
other humans seeking refuge from such horrendous war conditions need help or 
you might not. You could, certainly, conceive of the fact that human beings 
coming to this big country we call "America" might add diversity, richness and 
more humanity instead of having a decimating effect on what you perceive of as 
"America" or not. It is your choice, your ability or inability or willingness 
or unwillingness to accept this possibility which determines your status as 
either compassionate or narrow and small - living in fear and constriction. 
 
 

 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]"  
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To:

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Ha ha Mike...what jobs have they undercut for Americans?  Oh, the cheap migrant 
labor jobs that no American citizen will do?  They hold down wages?  That's 
hysterical!!  Boy, you sure are giving a lot of power to these poor migrant 
workers.  What about outsourcing by corporations?  Who said there were no 
controls in place?  You?  Drugs are coming in illegally, controls or no 
controls.  Read about the latest tunnel discovered?  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 We owed a home to the Vietnamese that came here. They pretty much served with 
our military while we were there. They have adapted and assimilated well. The 
overwhelming majority of Mexican and Central American immigrants came here 
illegally, exploited for their cheap labor by the chamber of commerce and 
exploited as a new underclass for their potential as voters. They undercut 
Americans for jobs, holding down wages, then seek public assistance to 
supplement their low wages.With no controls on who comes in and out, a criminal 
element comes along with them bringing drugs and crime.

 
 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 2:44 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again
 
 
   We have accepted millions of Vietnamese, Mexicans, Central Americans and 
others. No big deal. The real problem this country faces is the entrenched 
racism and xenophobia, much of which is being directed at our current 
president. 
 

 These are not Christian ideas, or well-thought out principles being expressed 
- it is rank ignorance, arrogance and fear. The current economic nightmare we 
are facing has NOTHING to do with minorites and immigrants, but rather 
legislation passed mainly by a bunch of old rich white guys. They are the enemy 
and the ones who should be expelled from this great country. The one percenter, 
anti-job, anti-equality, anti-government radicals are the ones destroying this 
country a hell of a lot more effectively than ISIS or any other Islamic 
organization could. Jesus would be deeply ashamed.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Right, there is *intent* to play the emotions, especially when you show 
bloodied children and lifeless bodies. What's the saying... A picture is worth 
a thousand words. The the next step is that we have to bring them all here into 
our communities or we are heartless bastards. Just as you predictably pointed 
out, the excuse is, *They will enrich our communities with diversity* That's 
just pure BS! There is no way to accurately vet who is coming, what their 
intent is, how or even if, they will adapt to a foreign culture. Meanwhile, 
ISIS is infiltrating the ranks of genuine refugees, intent on doing as much 
harm as they can. Other refugees, not all mind you, who may not be terrorists 
are exactly what liberals proclaim to hate... violent, misogynistic, homophobic 
, anti -Semitic, xenophobic bastards that are convinced that they are superior 
to anyone else. But then, how many women marry a man they are attracted to for 
some reason, knowing he has many faults that she can't stand but is convinced 
that she can *change* him. Sorry Anne, bringing large numbers of foreign people 
here that can't be properly vetted, especially from cultures that have a strong 
tendency to *not* assimilate and think your culture is inferior  is a bad idea. 
It's a far better idea to put pressure on neighboring countries to absorb the 
refugees until things settle down. Western and European countries could help 
foot the bill although the oil rich countries should be able to handle it.
 

 
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 8:20 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 No one has said  anything about *design* to trick anybody. A wealthy person 
can give all that he has to help the poor and then become poor himself. What 
has he accomplished? Feeding a bunch of people for a day and then making 
himself poor as well, At that point, he becomes a victim as well, needing help 
himself. This is not being smart, not how he became wealthy in the first place. 
Better to have a strategy that helps all and doesn't hurt anyone. The first 
rule of the Hippocratic oath is *do no harm*, neither to the patient nor the 
doctor. A dead doctor doesn't heal anyone!

 I'm sure Europe doesn't want to go through those bombed out buildings again.
 

 No, you used the word "intent" which implies some sort of manipulation of the 
viewer through the use of these photos. These are journalistic photographs of 
what is going on, not some staged actors playing the part of victims 
accompanied by saccharine background music. You can either accept it or not. 
You can either turn away or not. You can either put yourself 
mentally/imaginatively in these people's situation or not and try and 
understand the fear

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Of course, Mike, it all depends on how the scripture is interpreted.  What 
about this?  

 "The talents given to the three servants are not so much monetary gifts or 
personal capacities; they are a share in the mercy of God, a participation in 
the weightiness of the divine love. But since mercy is always directed to the 
other, these “talents” are designed to be shared. In point of fact, they will 
increase precisely in the measure that they are given away. "
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 BTW Ollie, if it were not for those 1%er's you so despise, you probably 
wouldn't have Jack Shit! No job, no house /apartment, transportation, computer, 
television, electricity, food, cloths, medical care, education, political or 
legal representation. You'd probably be living under a totalitarian system like 
Pol Pot, or Kim Jung Un doing what they tell you to do as long as you are of 
any use to them. You certainly wouldn't be on the internet complaining about 
them.
 If you think Christ was anti capitalist you better re read your Bible(if you 
have one). Christ used one parable in which he described a wealthy man that 
divided his fortune up to be managed by three servants while he was away on a 
long trip. When the man returned he wanted to know what each servant did with 
the money that he gave him to take care of. One man invested and increased the 
fortune, the other tried but lost it all, the last man buried his share and 
returned it to the master when he came home. The man congratulated the one that 
increased his fortune, the one that lost it was recognized as at least having 
tried, but the one that buried it and returned it all was scolded for missing 
out on an opportunity to do something with what he had been provided.


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 2:44 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again
 
 
   We have accepted millions of Vietnamese, Mexicans, Central Americans and 
others. No big deal. The real problem this country faces is the entrenched 
racism and xenophobia, much of which is being directed at our current 
president. 
 

 These are not Christian ideas, or well-thought out principles being expressed 
- it is rank ignorance, arrogance and fear. The current economic nightmare we 
are facing has NOTHING to do with minorites and immigrants, but rather 
legislation passed mainly by a bunch of old rich white guys. They are the enemy 
and the ones who should be expelled from this great country. The one percenter, 
anti-job, anti-equality, anti-government radicals are the ones destroying this 
country a hell of a lot more effectively than ISIS or any other Islamic 
organization could. Jesus would be deeply ashamed.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Right, there is *intent* to play the emotions, especially when you show 
bloodied children and lifeless bodies. What's the saying... A picture is worth 
a thousand words. The the next step is that we have to bring them all here into 
our communities or we are heartless bastards. Just as you predictably pointed 
out, the excuse is, *They will enrich our communities with diversity* That's 
just pure BS! There is no way to accurately vet who is coming, what their 
intent is, how or even if, they will adapt to a foreign culture. Meanwhile, 
ISIS is infiltrating the ranks of genuine refugees, intent on doing as much 
harm as they can. Other refugees, not all mind you, who may not be terrorists 
are exactly what liberals proclaim to hate... violent, misogynistic, homophobic 
, anti -Semitic, xenophobic bastards that are convinced that they are superior 
to anyone else. But then, how many women marry a man they are attracted to for 
some reason, knowing he has many faults that she can't stand but is convinced 
that she can *change* him. Sorry Anne, bringing large numbers of foreign people 
here that can't be properly vetted, especially from cultures that have a strong 
tendency to *not* assimilate and think your culture is inferior  is a bad idea. 
It's a far better idea to put pressure on neighboring countries to absorb the 
refugees until things settle down. Western and European countries could help 
foot the bill although the oil rich countries should be able to handle it.
 

 
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 8:20 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 No one has said  anything about *design* to trick anybody. A wealthy person 
can give all that he has to help the poor and then become poor himself. What 
has he accomplished? Feeding a bunch of people for a day and then making 
himself poor as well, At that point, he becomes a victim as well, needing help 
himself. This is not being smart, not how he became wealthy in the first place. 
Better to have a strategy that helps all and doesn't 

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

We live in two different worlds, Mike.  I don't envy you yours.   

 Closing our borders to(Who? Everyone from the Middle East and 
Mexico?)___, which seems to be what you are now promoting below, will 
not stop terrorism.   
 

 If you read the facts, the US right now is letting in very, very, few refugees 
(those fleeing from terror, let us remember) and those that are let in go 
through an arduous vetting process.  
 

 My heart aches for every suicide bombing, that I can assure you of.  
 

 "A breakaway Pakistani faction of the militant Taliban group has claimed 
responsibility for an Easter Sunday bombing in a park in the eastern city of 
Lahore that killed 65 people.
 Ahsanullah Ahsan, spokesman for Jamaat-ul-Ahrar, told the Associated Press 
that a suicide bomber with the faction deliberately targeted the Christian 
community."

 In the world of Christianity, "Christ is risen" and the faithful will ascend 
to be with Christ upon their death.  Let us hope their families can take some 
comfort in this.   

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Emily, your naivety astounds me. Numerous Somali refugees once living in 
Wisconsin  have already traveled to the middle east to join up with ISIS. You 
have the Tzarneav brothers responsible for the Boston bombings and the married 
couple in California from Pakistan and others I can't even remember. Numerous 
*refugee* from Syria and elsewhere are being caught sneaking across the 
southern border from Mexico. Nobody knows how many have not been caught or what 
their true intentions are. How many Paris or Brussels type attacks in the US do 
we have to have for you to wake up. I have no intentions of letting my country 
go the same route Europe has gone.News just broke about a suicide bombing in 
Pakistan by Taliban, killing numerous women and children, mostly Christian 
celebrating Easter. 
 
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 11:37 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again
 
 
   Mike, you continue to be so far off base in your statements on refugees that 
are being allowed to come here, it's incredible.  You simply never adjust your 
position to reflect the facts; you rigidly adhere to what you *think* and then 
wallow in self-righteousness, despite all evidence to the contrary.  Fascinates 
me, really, as so many, like you adopt this different perception of reality.  
Your mind seems a very frightened place.  
 

 Facts about the Syrian Refugees 
http://www.factcheck.org/2015/11/facts-about-the-syrian-refugees/ 
 
 http://www.factcheck.org/2015/11/facts-about-the-syrian-refugees/
 
 Facts about the Syrian Refugees 
http://www.factcheck.org/2015/11/facts-about-the-syrian-refugees/ The Paris 
bombings and other recent terrorist attacks have given rise to a political 
debate within the United States about the Obama administration’s plan ...


 
 View on www.factcheck.org 
http://www.factcheck.org/2015/11/facts-about-the-syrian-refugees/
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Right, there is *intent* to play the emotions, especially when you show 
bloodied children and lifeless bodies. What's the saying... A picture is worth 
a thousand words. The the next step is that we have to bring them all here into 
our communities or we are heartless bastards. Just as you predictably pointed 
out, the excuse is, *They will enrich our communities with diversity* That's 
just pure BS! There is no way to accurately vet who is coming, what their 
intent is, how or even if, they will adapt to a foreign culture. Meanwhile, 
ISIS is infiltrating the ranks of genuine refugees, intent on doing as much 
harm as they can. Other refugees, not all mind you, who may not be terrorists 
are exactly what liberals proclaim to hate... violent, misogynistic, homophobic 
, anti -Semitic, xenophobic bastards that are convinced that they are superior 
to anyone else. But then, how many women marry a man they are attracted to for 
some reason, knowing he has many faults that she can't stand but is convinced 
that she can *change* him. Sorry Anne, bringing large numbers of foreign people 
here that can't be properly vetted, especially from cultures that have a strong 
tendency to *not* assimilate and think your culture is inferior  is a bad idea. 
It's a far better idea to put pressure on neighboring countries to absorb the 
refugees until things settle down. Western and European countries could help 
foot the bill although the oil rich countries should be able to handle it.
 

 
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 8:20 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 No one has said  anything about *design* to trick anybody. A wealthy person 
can give all that he has to help the poor and then become poor himself

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

BTW Ollie, if it were not for those 1%er's you so despise, you probably 
wouldn't have Jack Shit! No job, no house /apartment, transportation, computer, 
television, electricity, food, cloths, medical care, education, political or 
legal representation. You'd probably be living under a totalitarian system like 
Pol Pot, or Kim Jung Un doing what they tell you to do as long as you are of 
any use to them. You certainly wouldn't be on the internet complaining about 
them.
If you think Christ was anti capitalist you better re read your Bible(if you 
have one). Christ used one parable in which he described a wealthy man that 
divided his fortune up to be managed by three servants while he was away on a 
long trip. When the man returned he wanted to know what each servant did with 
the money that he gave him to take care of. One man invested and increased the 
fortune, the other tried but lost it all, the last man buried his share and 
returned it to the master when he came home. The man congratulated the one that 
increased his fortune, the one that lost it was recognized as at least having 
tried, but the one that buried it and returned it all was scolded for missing 
out on an opportunity to do something with what he had been provided.
  From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 2:44 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again
   
    We have accepted millions of Vietnamese, Mexicans, Central Americans and 
others. No big deal. The real problem this country faces is the entrenched 
racism and xenophobia, much of which is being directed at our current 
president. 
These are not Christian ideas, or well-thought out principles being expressed - 
it is rank ignorance, arrogance and fear. The current economic nightmare we are 
facing has NOTHING to do with minorites and immigrants, but rather legislation 
passed mainly by a bunch of old rich white guys. They are the enemy and the 
ones who should be expelled from this great country. The one percenter, 
anti-job, anti-equality, anti-government radicals are the ones destroying this 
country a hell of a lot more effectively than ISIS or any other Islamic 
organization could. Jesus would be deeply ashamed.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Right, there is *intent* to play the emotions, especially when you show 
bloodied children and lifeless bodies. What's the saying... A picture is worth 
a thousand words. The the next step is that we have to bring them all here into 
our communities or we are heartless bastards. Just as you predictably pointed 
out, the excuse is, *They will enrich our communities with diversity* That's 
just pure BS! There is no way to accurately vet who is coming, what their 
intent is, how or even if, they will adapt to a foreign culture. Meanwhile, 
ISIS is infiltrating the ranks of genuine refugees, intent on doing as much 
harm as they can. Other refugees, not all mind you, who may not be terrorists 
are exactly what liberals proclaim to hate... violent, misogynistic, homophobic 
, anti -Semitic, xenophobic bastards that are convinced that they are superior 
to anyone else. But then, how many women marry a man they are attracted to for 
some reason, knowing he has many faults that she can't stand but is convinced 
that she can *change* him. Sorry Anne, bringing large numbers of foreign people 
here that can't be properly vetted, especially from cultures that have a strong 
tendency to *not* assimilate and think your culture is inferior  is a bad idea. 
It's a far better idea to put pressure on neighboring countries to absorb the 
refugees until things settle down. Western and European countries could help 
foot the bill although the oil rich countries should be able to handle it.


  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 8:20 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

No one has said  anything about *design* to trick anybody. A wealthy person can 
give all that he has to help the poor and then become poor himself. What has he 
accomplished? Feeding a bunch of people for a day and then making himself poor 
as well, At that point, he becomes a victim as well, needing help himself. This 
is not being smart, not how he became wealthy in the first place. Better to 
have a strategy that helps all and doesn't hurt anyone. The first rule of the 
Hippocratic oath is *do no harm*, neither to the patient nor the doctor. A dead 
doctor doesn't heal anyone!
I'm sure Europe doesn't want to go through those bombed out buildings again.
No, you used the word "intent" which implies some sort of manipulation of the 
viewer through the use of these photos. These are journalistic photographs of 
what is going on, not some staged actors playing the part of victims 
accompanied by saccharine background music. You can either accept it or not.

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

We owed a home to the Vietnamese that came here. They pretty much served with 
our military while we were there. They have adapted and assimilated well. The 
overwhelming majority of Mexican and Central American immigrants came here 
illegally, exploited for their cheap labor by the chamber of commerce and 
exploited as a new underclass for their potential as voters. They undercut 
Americans for jobs, holding down wages, then seek public assistance to 
supplement their low wages.With no controls on who comes in and out, a criminal 
element comes along with them bringing drugs and crime.


  From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 2:44 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again
   
    We have accepted millions of Vietnamese, Mexicans, Central Americans and 
others. No big deal. The real problem this country faces is the entrenched 
racism and xenophobia, much of which is being directed at our current 
president. 
These are not Christian ideas, or well-thought out principles being expressed - 
it is rank ignorance, arrogance and fear. The current economic nightmare we are 
facing has NOTHING to do with minorites and immigrants, but rather legislation 
passed mainly by a bunch of old rich white guys. They are the enemy and the 
ones who should be expelled from this great country. The one percenter, 
anti-job, anti-equality, anti-government radicals are the ones destroying this 
country a hell of a lot more effectively than ISIS or any other Islamic 
organization could. Jesus would be deeply ashamed.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Right, there is *intent* to play the emotions, especially when you show 
bloodied children and lifeless bodies. What's the saying... A picture is worth 
a thousand words. The the next step is that we have to bring them all here into 
our communities or we are heartless bastards. Just as you predictably pointed 
out, the excuse is, *They will enrich our communities with diversity* That's 
just pure BS! There is no way to accurately vet who is coming, what their 
intent is, how or even if, they will adapt to a foreign culture. Meanwhile, 
ISIS is infiltrating the ranks of genuine refugees, intent on doing as much 
harm as they can. Other refugees, not all mind you, who may not be terrorists 
are exactly what liberals proclaim to hate... violent, misogynistic, homophobic 
, anti -Semitic, xenophobic bastards that are convinced that they are superior 
to anyone else. But then, how many women marry a man they are attracted to for 
some reason, knowing he has many faults that she can't stand but is convinced 
that she can *change* him. Sorry Anne, bringing large numbers of foreign people 
here that can't be properly vetted, especially from cultures that have a strong 
tendency to *not* assimilate and think your culture is inferior  is a bad idea. 
It's a far better idea to put pressure on neighboring countries to absorb the 
refugees until things settle down. Western and European countries could help 
foot the bill although the oil rich countries should be able to handle it.


  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 8:20 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

No one has said  anything about *design* to trick anybody. A wealthy person can 
give all that he has to help the poor and then become poor himself. What has he 
accomplished? Feeding a bunch of people for a day and then making himself poor 
as well, At that point, he becomes a victim as well, needing help himself. This 
is not being smart, not how he became wealthy in the first place. Better to 
have a strategy that helps all and doesn't hurt anyone. The first rule of the 
Hippocratic oath is *do no harm*, neither to the patient nor the doctor. A dead 
doctor doesn't heal anyone!
I'm sure Europe doesn't want to go through those bombed out buildings again.
No, you used the word "intent" which implies some sort of manipulation of the 
viewer through the use of these photos. These are journalistic photographs of 
what is going on, not some staged actors playing the part of victims 
accompanied by saccharine background music. You can either accept it or not. 
You can either turn away or not. You can either put yourself 
mentally/imaginatively in these people's situation or not and try and 
understand the fear, the uncertainty, the devastation. You can realize that 
other humans seeking refuge from such horrendous war conditions need help or 
you might not. You could, certainly, conceive of the fact that human beings 
coming to this big country we call "America" might add diversity, richness and 
more humanity instead of having a decimating effect on what you perceive of as 
"America" or not. It is your choice, your ability or inability or willingness 
or unwillingness to accept this possibility which de

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again

[olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

We have accepted millions of Vietnamese, Mexicans, Central Americans and 
others. No big deal. The real problem this country faces is the entrenched 
racism and xenophobia, much of which is being directed at our current 
president.  

 These are not Christian ideas, or well-thought out principles being expressed 
- it is rank ignorance, arrogance and fear. The current economic nightmare we 
are facing has NOTHING to do with minorites and immigrants, but rather 
legislation passed mainly by a bunch of old rich white guys. They are the enemy 
and the ones who should be expelled from this great country. The one percenter, 
anti-job, anti-equality, anti-government radicals are the ones destroying this 
country a hell of a lot more effectively than ISIS or any other Islamic 
organization could. Jesus would be deeply ashamed.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Right, there is *intent* to play the emotions, especially when you show 
bloodied children and lifeless bodies. What's the saying... A picture is worth 
a thousand words. The the next step is that we have to bring them all here into 
our communities or we are heartless bastards. Just as you predictably pointed 
out, the excuse is, *They will enrich our communities with diversity* That's 
just pure BS! There is no way to accurately vet who is coming, what their 
intent is, how or even if, they will adapt to a foreign culture. Meanwhile, 
ISIS is infiltrating the ranks of genuine refugees, intent on doing as much 
harm as they can. Other refugees, not all mind you, who may not be terrorists 
are exactly what liberals proclaim to hate... violent, misogynistic, homophobic 
, anti -Semitic, xenophobic bastards that are convinced that they are superior 
to anyone else. But then, how many women marry a man they are attracted to for 
some reason, knowing he has many faults that she can't stand but is convinced 
that she can *change* him. Sorry Anne, bringing large numbers of foreign people 
here that can't be properly vetted, especially from cultures that have a strong 
tendency to *not* assimilate and think your culture is inferior  is a bad idea. 
It's a far better idea to put pressure on neighboring countries to absorb the 
refugees until things settle down. Western and European countries could help 
foot the bill although the oil rich countries should be able to handle it.
 

 
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 8:20 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 No one has said  anything about *design* to trick anybody. A wealthy person 
can give all that he has to help the poor and then become poor himself. What 
has he accomplished? Feeding a bunch of people for a day and then making 
himself poor as well, At that point, he becomes a victim as well, needing help 
himself. This is not being smart, not how he became wealthy in the first place. 
Better to have a strategy that helps all and doesn't hurt anyone. The first 
rule of the Hippocratic oath is *do no harm*, neither to the patient nor the 
doctor. A dead doctor doesn't heal anyone!

 I'm sure Europe doesn't want to go through those bombed out buildings again.
 

 No, you used the word "intent" which implies some sort of manipulation of the 
viewer through the use of these photos. These are journalistic photographs of 
what is going on, not some staged actors playing the part of victims 
accompanied by saccharine background music. You can either accept it or not. 
You can either turn away or not. You can either put yourself 
mentally/imaginatively in these people's situation or not and try and 
understand the fear, the uncertainty, the devastation. You can realize that 
other humans seeking refuge from such horrendous war conditions need help or 
you might not. You could, certainly, conceive of the fact that human beings 
coming to this big country we call "America" might add diversity, richness and 
more humanity instead of having a decimating effect on what you perceive of as 
"America" or not. It is your choice, your ability or inability or willingness 
or unwillingness to accept this possibility which determines your status as 
either compassionate or narrow and small - living in fear and constriction. 
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2016 8:40 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This is exactly what I'm referring to when I say *the heart*. All emotion. 
Such pictures tug on the *heart strings*. The intent is to evoke compassion , 
for those affected, the desire to help. Nothing wrong with that! Just don't 
create more and bigger problems with the solution! Don't destroy what you have 
in the name of helping others out of their unfortunate circumstances.

 

 Mike, these images are what they are

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Emily, your naivety astounds me. Numerous Somali refugees once living in 
Wisconsin  have already traveled to the middle east to join up with ISIS. You 
have the Tzarneav brothers responsible for the Boston bombings and the married 
couple in California from Pakistan and others I can't even remember. Numerous 
*refugee* from Syria and elsewhere are being caught sneaking across the 
southern border from Mexico. Nobody knows how many have not been caught or what 
their true intentions are. How many Paris or Brussels type attacks in the US do 
we have to have for you to wake up. I have no intentions of letting my country 
go the same route Europe has gone.News just broke about a suicide bombing in 
Pakistan by Taliban, killing numerous women and children, mostly Christian 
celebrating Easter.  

  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 11:37 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again
   
    Mike, you continue to be so far off base in your statements on refugees 
that are being allowed to come here, it's incredible.  You simply never adjust 
your position to reflect the facts; you rigidly adhere to what you *think* and 
then wallow in self-righteousness, despite all evidence to the contrary.  
Fascinates me, really, as so many, like you adopt this different perception of 
reality.  Your mind seems a very frightened place.  
Facts about the Syrian Refugees 
||
||||   Facts about the Syrian Refugees  The Paris bombings 
and other recent terrorist attacks have given rise to a political debate within 
the United States about the Obama administration’s plan ...||
|  View on www.factcheck.org  |Preview by Yahoo|
||

   


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Right, there is *intent* to play the emotions, especially when you show 
bloodied children and lifeless bodies. What's the saying... A picture is worth 
a thousand words. The the next step is that we have to bring them all here into 
our communities or we are heartless bastards. Just as you predictably pointed 
out, the excuse is, *They will enrich our communities with diversity* That's 
just pure BS! There is no way to accurately vet who is coming, what their 
intent is, how or even if, they will adapt to a foreign culture. Meanwhile, 
ISIS is infiltrating the ranks of genuine refugees, intent on doing as much 
harm as they can. Other refugees, not all mind you, who may not be terrorists 
are exactly what liberals proclaim to hate... violent, misogynistic, homophobic 
, anti -Semitic, xenophobic bastards that are convinced that they are superior 
to anyone else. But then, how many women marry a man they are attracted to for 
some reason, knowing he has many faults that she can't stand but is convinced 
that she can *change* him. Sorry Anne, bringing large numbers of foreign people 
here that can't be properly vetted, especially from cultures that have a strong 
tendency to *not* assimilate and think your culture is inferior  is a bad idea. 
It's a far better idea to put pressure on neighboring countries to absorb the 
refugees until things settle down. Western and European countries could help 
foot the bill although the oil rich countries should be able to handle it.


  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 8:20 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

No one has said  anything about *design* to trick anybody. A wealthy person can 
give all that he has to help the poor and then become poor himself. What has he 
accomplished? Feeding a bunch of people for a day and then making himself poor 
as well, At that point, he becomes a victim as well, needing help himself. This 
is not being smart, not how he became wealthy in the first place. Better to 
have a strategy that helps all and doesn't hurt anyone. The first rule of the 
Hippocratic oath is *do no harm*, neither to the patient nor the doctor. A dead 
doctor doesn't heal anyone!
I'm sure Europe doesn't want to go through those bombed out buildings again.
No, you used the word "intent" which implies some sort of manipulation of the 
viewer through the use of these photos. These are journalistic photographs of 
what is going on, not some staged actors playing the part of victims 
accompanied by saccharine background music. You can either accept it or not. 
You can either turn away or not. You can either put yourself 
mentally/imaginatively in these people's situation or not and try and 
understand the fear, the uncertainty, the devastation. You can realize that 
other humans seeking refuge from such horrendous war conditions need help or 
you might not. You could, certainly, conceive of the fact that human beings 
coming to this big country we call "America" might add diversity, richness and 
more humanity instead of having a decimati

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[email4you mikemail4...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNe6fsaCVtI
dear friends, this is a really astonishing scientific animation,what shows 
reality and illusion. almost 108 seconds of bliss ...just enjoy
...
 Watch as the balls rotate in a circle ..but focus on one ball at a time and 
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This is just another example of looking deeper into something so simple and 
discovering a hidden pattern.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Do you always *leap* before looking?


  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 10:21 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Right, there is *intent* to play the emotions, especially when you show 
bloodied children and lifeless bodies. What's the saying... A picture is worth 
a thousand words. The the next step is that we have to bring them all here into 
our communities or we are heartless bastards. Just as you predictably pointed 
out, the excuse is, *They will enrich our communities with diversity* That's 
just pure BS! There is no way to accurately vet who is coming, what their 
intent is, how or even if, they will adapt to a foreign culture. Meanwhile, 
ISIS is infiltrating the ranks of genuine refugees, intent on doing as much 
harm as they can. Other refugees, not all mind you, who may not be terrorists 
are exactly what liberals proclaim to hate... violent, misogynistic, homophobic 
, anti -Semitic, xenophobic bastards that are convinced that they are superior 
to anyone else. But then, how many women marry a man they are attracted to for 
some reason, knowing he has many faults that she can't stand but is convinced 
that she can *change* him. Sorry Anne, bringing large numbers of foreign people 
here that can't be properly vetted, especially from cultures that have a strong 
tendency to *not* assimilate and think your culture is inferior  is a bad idea. 
It's a far better idea to put pressure on neighboring countries to absorb the 
refugees until things settle down. Western and European countries could help 
foot the bill although the oil rich countries should be able to handle it.
Are you always "the glass is half empty" kind of guy, 
Mike?http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/11/26/refugees-economy-canada_n_8658076.html



  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 8:20 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

No one has said  anything about *design* to trick anybody. A wealthy person can 
give all that he has to help the poor and then become poor himself. What has he 
accomplished? Feeding a bunch of people for a day and then making himself poor 
as well, At that point, he becomes a victim as well, needing help himself. This 
is not being smart, not how he became wealthy in the first place. Better to 
have a strategy that helps all and doesn't hurt anyone. The first rule of the 
Hippocratic oath is *do no harm*, neither to the patient nor the doctor. A dead 
doctor doesn't heal anyone!
I'm sure Europe doesn't want to go through those bombed out buildings again.
No, you used the word "intent" which implies some sort of manipulation of the 
viewer through the use of these photos. These are journalistic photographs of 
what is going on, not some staged actors playing the part of victims 
accompanied by saccharine background music. You can either accept it or not. 
You can either turn away or not. You can either put yourself 
mentally/imaginatively in these people's situation or not and try and 
understand the fear, the uncertainty, the devastation. You can realize that 
other humans seeking refuge from such horrendous war conditions need help or 
you might not. You could, certainly, conceive of the fact that human beings 
coming to this big country we call "America" might add diversity, richness and 
more humanity instead of having a decimating effect on what you perceive of as 
"America" or not. It is your choice, your ability or inability or willingness 
or unwillingness to accept this possibility which determines your status as 
either compassionate or narrow and small - living in fear and constriction. 

  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2016 8:40 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again

 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

This is exactly what I'm referring to when I say *the heart*. All emotion. Such 
pictures tug on the *heart strings*. The intent is to evoke compassion , for 
those affected, the desire to help. Nothing wrong with that! Just don't create 
more and bigger problems with the solution! Don't destroy what you have in the 
name of helping others out of their unfortunate circumstances.

Mike, these images are what they are. They aren't "designed" to do anything - 
they are what is happening, they are not staged or embellished. Bombed out 
cities really exist in Syria, real blood is being spilled, families are being 
decimated. This isn't some fiction made up in Hollywood - these are images 
captured on camera by journalists.
Your final sentence is self serving  and remarkably selfish. Don't 
inconvenience yourself or threaten your own comfort by putting yourself out for 
others who are in danger of losing their l

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

Emily, congrats on my old home state feeling the Bern!

On 03/27/2016 09:37 AM, emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


Mike, you continue to be so far off base in your statements on 
refugees that are being allowed to come here, it's incredible.  You 
simply never adjust your position to reflect the facts; you rigidly 
adhere to what you *think* and then wallow in self-righteousness, 
despite all evidence to the contrary.  Fascinates me, really, as so 
many, like you adopt this different perception of reality.  Your mind 
seems a very frightened place.



Facts about the Syrian Refugees 





image 


Facts about the Syrian Refugees 

The Paris bombings and other recent terrorist attacks have given rise 
to a political debate within the United States about the Obama 
administration’s plan ...


View on www.factcheck.org 



Preview by Yahoo




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Right, there is *intent* to play the emotions, especially when you 
show bloodied children and lifeless bodies. What's the saying... A 
picture is worth a thousand words. The the next step is that we have 
to bring them all here into our communities or we are heartless 
bastards. Just as you predictably pointed out, the excuse is, *They 
will enrich our communities with diversity* That's just pure BS! There 
is no way to accurately vet who is coming, what their intent is, how 
or even if, they will adapt to a foreign culture. Meanwhile, ISIS is 
infiltrating the ranks of genuine refugees, intent on doing as much 
harm as they can. Other refugees, not all mind you, who may not be 
terrorists are exactly what liberals proclaim to hate... violent, 
misogynistic, homophobic , anti -Semitic, xenophobic bastards that are 
convinced that they are superior to anyone else. But then, how many 
women marry a man they are attracted to for some reason, knowing he 
has many faults that she can't stand but is convinced that she can 
*change* him. Sorry Anne, bringing large numbers of foreign people 
here that can't be properly vetted, especially from cultures that have 
a strong tendency to *not* assimilate and think your culture is 
inferior  is a bad idea. It's a far better idea to put pressure on 
neighboring countries to absorb the refugees until things settle down. 
Western and European countries could help foot the bill although the 
oil rich countries should be able to handle it.





*From:* "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Sunday, March 27, 2016 8:20 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

No one has said anything about *design* to trick anybody. A wealthy 
person can give all that he has to help the poor and then become poor 
himself. What has he accomplished? Feeding a bunch of people for a day 
and then making himself poor as well, At that point, he becomes a 
victim as well, needing help himself. This is not being smart, not how 
he became wealthy in the first place. Better to have a strategy that 
helps all and doesn't hurt anyone. The first rule of the Hippocratic 
oath is *do no harm*, neither to the patient nor the doctor. A dead 
doctor doesn't heal anyone!
I'm sure Europe doesn't want to go through those bombed out buildings 
again.


No, you used the word "intent" which implies some sort of manipulation 
of the viewer through the use of these photos. These are journalistic 
photographs of what is going on, not some staged actors playing the 
part of victims accompanied by saccharine background music. You can 
either accept it or not. You can either turn away or not. You can 
either put yourself mentally/imaginatively in these people's situation 
or not and try and understand the fear, the uncertainty, the 
devastation. You can realize that other humans seeking refuge from 
such horrendous war conditions need help or you might not. You could, 
certainly, conceive of the fact that human beings coming to this big 
country we call "America" might add diversity, richness and more 
humanity instead of having a decimating effect on what you perceive of 
as "America" or not. It is your choice, your ability or inability or 
willingness or unwillingness to accept this possibility which 
determines your status as either compassionate or narrow and small - 
living in fear and constriction.




*From:* "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Saturday, March 26, 2016 8:40 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again

Re: [FairfieldLife] You Shoulda Been There

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

So the "Tri-City Herald" article was at the top of the list on Google?  
Only about the other side of the US from Cuba but of course closer to 
you.  In other news I see they had a big easter egg hunt in Pasco and 
food truck Friday's are back. Can't help it.  I grew up about 40 miles 
from there. :-D


Speaking of easter egg hunts.  Some half-brained idiot from this city 
failed to look at the community calendar and scheduled the downtown 
cleanup for yesterday causing a helluva congestion because it was also 
the egg hunt in the nearby park. Coffee on the patio at Starbucks was 
like a pre-schooler convention. Why are people still choosing to have so 
many kids? To avoid the egg hunt which is bad enough for traffic I did 
my walk in the park at noon. ;-)


On 03/26/2016 08:00 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


http://www.tri-cityherald.com/entertainment/article68392217.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Mike, you continue to be so far off base in your statements on refugees that 
are being allowed to come here, it's incredible.  You simply never adjust your 
position to reflect the facts; you rigidly adhere to what you *think* and then 
wallow in self-righteousness, despite all evidence to the contrary.  Fascinates 
me, really, as so many, like you adopt this different perception of reality.  
Your mind seems a very frightened place.   

 Facts about the Syrian Refugees 
http://www.factcheck.org/2015/11/facts-about-the-syrian-refugees/ 
 
 http://www.factcheck.org/2015/11/facts-about-the-syrian-refugees/ 
 
 Facts about the Syrian Refugees 
http://www.factcheck.org/2015/11/facts-about-the-syrian-refugees/ The Paris 
bombings and other recent terrorist attacks have given rise to a political 
debate within the United States about the Obama administration’s plan ...
 
 
 
 View on www.factcheck.org 
http://www.factcheck.org/2015/11/facts-about-the-syrian-refugees/ 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Right, there is *intent* to play the emotions, especially when you show 
bloodied children and lifeless bodies. What's the saying... A picture is worth 
a thousand words. The the next step is that we have to bring them all here into 
our communities or we are heartless bastards. Just as you predictably pointed 
out, the excuse is, *They will enrich our communities with diversity* That's 
just pure BS! There is no way to accurately vet who is coming, what their 
intent is, how or even if, they will adapt to a foreign culture. Meanwhile, 
ISIS is infiltrating the ranks of genuine refugees, intent on doing as much 
harm as they can. Other refugees, not all mind you, who may not be terrorists 
are exactly what liberals proclaim to hate... violent, misogynistic, homophobic 
, anti -Semitic, xenophobic bastards that are convinced that they are superior 
to anyone else. But then, how many women marry a man they are attracted to for 
some reason, knowing he has many faults that she can't stand but is convinced 
that she can *change* him. Sorry Anne, bringing large numbers of foreign people 
here that can't be properly vetted, especially from cultures that have a strong 
tendency to *not* assimilate and think your culture is inferior  is a bad idea. 
It's a far better idea to put pressure on neighboring countries to absorb the 
refugees until things settle down. Western and European countries could help 
foot the bill although the oil rich countries should be able to handle it.
 

 
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 8:20 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 No one has said  anything about *design* to trick anybody. A wealthy person 
can give all that he has to help the poor and then become poor himself. What 
has he accomplished? Feeding a bunch of people for a day and then making 
himself poor as well, At that point, he becomes a victim as well, needing help 
himself. This is not being smart, not how he became wealthy in the first place. 
Better to have a strategy that helps all and doesn't hurt anyone. The first 
rule of the Hippocratic oath is *do no harm*, neither to the patient nor the 
doctor. A dead doctor doesn't heal anyone!

 I'm sure Europe doesn't want to go through those bombed out buildings again.
 

 No, you used the word "intent" which implies some sort of manipulation of the 
viewer through the use of these photos. These are journalistic photographs of 
what is going on, not some staged actors playing the part of victims 
accompanied by saccharine background music. You can either accept it or not. 
You can either turn away or not. You can either put yourself 
mentally/imaginatively in these people's situation or not and try and 
understand the fear, the uncertainty, the devastation. You can realize that 
other humans seeking refuge from such horrendous war conditions need help or 
you might not. You could, certainly, conceive of the fact that human beings 
coming to this big country we call "America" might add diversity, richness and 
more humanity instead of having a decimating effect on what you perceive of as 
"America" or not. It is your choice, your ability or inability or willingness 
or unwillingness to accept this possibility which determines your status as 
either compassionate or narrow and small - living in fear and constriction. 
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2016 8:40 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This is exactly what I'm referring to when I say *the heart*. All emotion. 
Such pictures tug on the *heart strings*. The intent is to evoke compassion , 
for those affected, the desire to help. Nothing wrong with that! Just don't 
create more and bi

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Right, there is *intent* to play the emotions, especially when you show 
bloodied children and lifeless bodies. What's the saying... A picture is worth 
a thousand words. The the next step is that we have to bring them all here into 
our communities or we are heartless bastards. Just as you predictably pointed 
out, the excuse is, *They will enrich our communities with diversity* That's 
just pure BS! There is no way to accurately vet who is coming, what their 
intent is, how or even if, they will adapt to a foreign culture. Meanwhile, 
ISIS is infiltrating the ranks of genuine refugees, intent on doing as much 
harm as they can. Other refugees, not all mind you, who may not be terrorists 
are exactly what liberals proclaim to hate... violent, misogynistic, homophobic 
, anti -Semitic, xenophobic bastards that are convinced that they are superior 
to anyone else. But then, how many women marry a man they are attracted to for 
some reason, knowing he has many faults that she can't stand but is convinced 
that she can *change* him. Sorry Anne, bringing large numbers of foreign people 
here that can't be properly vetted, especially from cultures that have a strong 
tendency to *not* assimilate and think your culture is inferior  is a bad idea. 
It's a far better idea to put pressure on neighboring countries to absorb the 
refugees until things settle down. Western and European countries could help 
foot the bill although the oil rich countries should be able to handle it.
 

 Are you always "the glass is half empty" kind of guy, Mike?
 http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/11/26/refugees-economy-canada_n_8658076.html 
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/11/26/refugees-economy-canada_n_8658076.html

 

 
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 8:20 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 No one has said  anything about *design* to trick anybody. A wealthy person 
can give all that he has to help the poor and then become poor himself. What 
has he accomplished? Feeding a bunch of people for a day and then making 
himself poor as well, At that point, he becomes a victim as well, needing help 
himself. This is not being smart, not how he became wealthy in the first place. 
Better to have a strategy that helps all and doesn't hurt anyone. The first 
rule of the Hippocratic oath is *do no harm*, neither to the patient nor the 
doctor. A dead doctor doesn't heal anyone!

 I'm sure Europe doesn't want to go through those bombed out buildings again.
 

 No, you used the word "intent" which implies some sort of manipulation of the 
viewer through the use of these photos. These are journalistic photographs of 
what is going on, not some staged actors playing the part of victims 
accompanied by saccharine background music. You can either accept it or not. 
You can either turn away or not. You can either put yourself 
mentally/imaginatively in these people's situation or not and try and 
understand the fear, the uncertainty, the devastation. You can realize that 
other humans seeking refuge from such horrendous war conditions need help or 
you might not. You could, certainly, conceive of the fact that human beings 
coming to this big country we call "America" might add diversity, richness and 
more humanity instead of having a decimating effect on what you perceive of as 
"America" or not. It is your choice, your ability or inability or willingness 
or unwillingness to accept this possibility which determines your status as 
either compassionate or narrow and small - living in fear and constriction. 
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2016 8:40 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This is exactly what I'm referring to when I say *the heart*. All emotion. 
Such pictures tug on the *heart strings*. The intent is to evoke compassion , 
for those affected, the desire to help. Nothing wrong with that! Just don't 
create more and bigger problems with the solution! Don't destroy what you have 
in the name of helping others out of their unfortunate circumstances.

 

 Mike, these images are what they are. They aren't "designed" to do anything - 
they are what is happening, they are not staged or embellished. Bombed out 
cities really exist in Syria, real blood is being spilled, families are being 
decimated. This isn't some fiction made up in Hollywood - these are images 
captured on camera by journalists.
 

 Your final sentence is self serving  and remarkably selfish. Don't 
inconvenience yourself or threaten your own comfort by putting yourself out for 
others who are in danger of losing their lives. No siree, let's just make sure 
we all have our daily bread and our creature comforts and the re

Re: [FairfieldLife] Origins of Quakerism THANKS from Col Leed 4 htis excellent post I learned much

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

The old collective meditation of Quaker Meeting for worship starts in half an 
hour this Sunday in Fairfield, Iowa 
 Welcome to the Sunday 
 Silence-based Friends Meeting as Quakers.
 
 
 This is an unprogrammed silent-based meditative experience
 that will last for about an hour. 
 
 
 As Quakers we have 
 no formal creed 
 no paid ministers
 no preaching
 no rites
 and, 
 speaking during this meeting for worship only as to where
 speaking out improves upon the silence of the meeting.
 
 
 Ours is a silence-based 
 corporate spiritual practice.
 
 
 This is an old practice,
 
 
 You are welcome to come in and sit down in silence with us,
 
 
 -Jai George Fox
 
 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I have forward it to many & my relatives. Have some Quaker ancestors as well 
came here, with Wm . Penn to his commonwealth.
 Hickman was that named ancestor!
  

  
  
 In a message dated 03/26/16 20:26:23 Eastern Daylight Time, 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com writes:
 Excellent 4 min video on the origins of Quakerism.  From this and other 
sources, I can find no evidence that Quakerism had significant influences from 
outside of the UK (for example, wandering Bishops from the Middle East, 
remnants of secret societies, etc; but rather during a transitional time in 
English Society, there were spontaneous Spiritual Awakenings in Fox and others, 
during the 1640's. The inner voice messages received by Fox provided him with a 
truly revolutionary epiphany,  unique in Protestant Europe at the time.:
 : that what you seek without (the Truth as provided by Jesus Christ), can 
be found from within.  As we have previously seen in the discussions of 
Quietism, such messages were also received in Catholic Europe around the same 
time or earlier, but met with much persecution and eventual extinction.  Thus, 
we can count Fox as being one of the greatest of Spiritual luminaries of the 
European Enlightenment era.
 

 How Quakerism Began https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmL_GhnXSJQ
 
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmL_GhnXSJQ
 
 How Quakerism Began https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmL_GhnXSJQ Quaker Speak: 
Max Carter shares the story of George Fox, a Quaker who went seeking for 
spiritual answers and found them not in a church, but within. Max is ...


 
 View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmL_GhnXSJQ
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  
 

  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM, Quietism, & the Quakers

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Found a Face Book page for Ancestors of Ambrose Dixon and also a page on 
wikipedia about Ambrose Dixon and his Quaker affiliation. Pretty much said what 
I had posted earlier.


  From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 8:53 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM, Quietism, & the Quakers
   
    Many Friends’ ideas can be traced to earlier groups. The first distinct 
Protestant movement in England was Lollardy, arising in the late Middle Ages, 
the 1370s. 
Good survey of earlier 'Antinomian' England:
Early Quaker History 
||
||||   Early Quaker History  This information was 
originally presented to the meeting for a “Quakerism 101” course by Eva Hersh 
on 4/13/2003. It was later revised by other members of Ho...||
|  View on homewoodfriends.org  |Preview by Yahoo|
||

   

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

"The spread of the Antinomian tradition,as begun by the Lollards, was by means 
of extended kinship,intermarriage, and child rearing and education. As will be 
seen, theLollard movement, which continued right up to the English 
Reformationof the 1530's, was a dissident religious reform campaign 
thatharbored an ingrained Antinomian frame of mind. As such, Lollardywas as 
much a radical stance from which even more radical views andbeliefs evolved 
over time, as it was a sect with a definitivetheology and program of action. It 
comprised, therefor, manydissident attitudes about the nature of true 
religion,, the characterof a “real” church, and the correct role of the state 
in relationto it. In short, it was a conveyor of religious and 
politicalradicalism. The means of dissident transmission was by familieswithin 
great kin networks, part of a much broader process of whatmight be called a 
“cultural genetics"."

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

But thanks to people like George Fox, the Quietist movement lived on under 
different names.
Yes, Jai George Fox!

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

"Kinship, therefore, was a determinantof far more than mere bloodlines: it was 
a radical culturaltransmitter, reflecting persistent defining cultural, 
religious, andpolitical traits. It continually revealed repetitive 
familialcontinuities and ancient customs of significant proportions. 
Tracinglong lines of familial descent show that kinship connections 
almostinvariably portended the descent of radical religious tendencies, andthus 
of radical political positions. ..Thus, this continuous, repetitivecongeries of 
familial patterns was not only accidental, it was anhistorically definable and 
demonstrable phenomenon, a marvel of greathistorical significance."
Renegade Yankees The Antinomian Tradition and AgrarianResistance in the 
Colonial American Northeast, 1636-1809by Donald Alan Smith  

Miguel de Molinos was the main inspiration. 
But Madame Guyon - particularly through her book "A Short and Easy Method of 
Prayer" - helped popularize his approach.
Her high-profile supporter was Archbishop Fenelon.
All three were targeted by the Church hierarchy. The history of Catholicism 
would have been radically different if their ideas had been treated with more 
respect.

Jeanne-Marie Bouvier de la Motte-Guyon 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

MD, as one Western transcendentalmeditationist remarkably you evidently are 
part of a long line-bred traditionthat came out of European separatist 
spirituality. This dissertationI am reading describes this as like the genetics 
of cultural familialDNA, a “cultural genetics” passing as cultured from 
generationto generation. ..In your case the English Lollard antinoniam line 
toNew England affecting radical religion and politics. There wereother 
transcendentalist spiritual lines that migrated directly out ofEurope also 
which affected our American radical (transcendent) spirituality (equality) 
andpolitical sensibilities (rights) as to the proper role of church and State 
inour culture.
I would nominate you for a Maharishi Award in recognition of you and your 
family's long relationship with this.
-JaiGuruYou!    

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Good example, MD of how a spiritual movements can spread in a time.  Sort of 
like TM did in the 1950-70's. By shakti of experience and then word of mouth 
from family and friends.  That was the Quaker spiritual movement in its day.  
Mobility through kin and connection.  
Someone here in Fairfield with connection to Vermont and New England just 
handed me a 900 page dissertation that was written on the spread of what the 
author is calling,  'antinomianism' of various shades.  A study of separatist 
spirituality from European roots moving across New England, jumping and going 
around what was then the ISIS-like colony of its day, Massachusetts Colony to 
settle further into New England.  
A thesis in this work amongst others is that this se

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Right, there is *intent* to play the emotions, especially when you show 
bloodied children and lifeless bodies. What's the saying... A picture is worth 
a thousand words. The the next step is that we have to bring them all here into 
our communities or we are heartless bastards. Just as you predictably pointed 
out, the excuse is, *They will enrich our communities with diversity* That's 
just pure BS! There is no way to accurately vet who is coming, what their 
intent is, how or even if, they will adapt to a foreign culture. Meanwhile, 
ISIS is infiltrating the ranks of genuine refugees, intent on doing as much 
harm as they can. Other refugees, not all mind you, who may not be terrorists 
are exactly what liberals proclaim to hate... violent, misogynistic, homophobic 
, anti -Semitic, xenophobic bastards that are convinced that they are superior 
to anyone else. But then, how many women marry a man they are attracted to for 
some reason, knowing he has many faults that she can't stand but is convinced 
that she can *change* him. Sorry Anne, bringing large numbers of foreign people 
here that can't be properly vetted, especially from cultures that have a strong 
tendency to *not* assimilate and think your culture is inferior  is a bad idea. 
It's a far better idea to put pressure on neighboring countries to absorb the 
refugees until things settle down. Western and European countries could help 
foot the bill although the oil rich countries should be able to handle it.


  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 8:20 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

No one has said  anything about *design* to trick anybody. A wealthy person can 
give all that he has to help the poor and then become poor himself. What has he 
accomplished? Feeding a bunch of people for a day and then making himself poor 
as well, At that point, he becomes a victim as well, needing help himself. This 
is not being smart, not how he became wealthy in the first place. Better to 
have a strategy that helps all and doesn't hurt anyone. The first rule of the 
Hippocratic oath is *do no harm*, neither to the patient nor the doctor. A dead 
doctor doesn't heal anyone!
I'm sure Europe doesn't want to go through those bombed out buildings again.
No, you used the word "intent" which implies some sort of manipulation of the 
viewer through the use of these photos. These are journalistic photographs of 
what is going on, not some staged actors playing the part of victims 
accompanied by saccharine background music. You can either accept it or not. 
You can either turn away or not. You can either put yourself 
mentally/imaginatively in these people's situation or not and try and 
understand the fear, the uncertainty, the devastation. You can realize that 
other humans seeking refuge from such horrendous war conditions need help or 
you might not. You could, certainly, conceive of the fact that human beings 
coming to this big country we call "America" might add diversity, richness and 
more humanity instead of having a decimating effect on what you perceive of as 
"America" or not. It is your choice, your ability or inability or willingness 
or unwillingness to accept this possibility which determines your status as 
either compassionate or narrow and small - living in fear and constriction. 

  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2016 8:40 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

This is exactly what I'm referring to when I say *the heart*. All emotion. Such 
pictures tug on the *heart strings*. The intent is to evoke compassion , for 
those affected, the desire to help. Nothing wrong with that! Just don't create 
more and bigger problems with the solution! Don't destroy what you have in the 
name of helping others out of their unfortunate circumstances.

Mike, these images are what they are. They aren't "designed" to do anything - 
they are what is happening, they are not staged or embellished. Bombed out 
cities really exist in Syria, real blood is being spilled, families are being 
decimated. This isn't some fiction made up in Hollywood - these are images 
captured on camera by journalists.
Your final sentence is self serving  and remarkably selfish. Don't 
inconvenience yourself or threaten your own comfort by putting yourself out for 
others who are in danger of losing their lives. No siree, let's just make sure 
we all have our daily bread and our creature comforts and the rest of those 
poor sods be damned; fend for yourselves you unlucky bastards. 

  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 8:51 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again

 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM, Quietism, & the Quakers

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Many Friends’ ideas can be traced to earlier groups. The first distinct 
Protestant movement in England was Lollardy, arising in the late Middle Ages, 
the 1370s.  

 Good survey of earlier 'Antinomian' England:
 
Early Quaker History 
http://homewoodfriends.org/2015/02/17/early-quaker-history-2/ 
 
 http://homewoodfriends.org/2015/02/17/early-quaker-history-2/ 
 
 Early Quaker History 
http://homewoodfriends.org/2015/02/17/early-quaker-history-2/ This information 
was originally presented to the meeting for a “Quakerism 101” course by Eva 
Hersh on 4/13/2003. It was later revised by other members of Ho...
 
 
 
 View on homewoodfriends.org 
http://homewoodfriends.org/2015/02/17/early-quaker-history-2/ 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 "The spread of the Antinomian tradition, as begun by the Lollards, was by 
means of extended kinship, intermarriage, and child rearing and education. As 
will be seen, the Lollard movement, which continued right up to the English 
Reformation of the 1530's, was a dissident religious reform campaign that 
harbored an ingrained Antinomian frame of mind. As such, Lollardy was as much a 
radical stance from which even more radical views and beliefs evolved over 
time, as it was a sect with a definitive theology and program of action. It 
comprised, therefor, many dissident attitudes about the nature of true 
religion,, the character of a “real” church, and the correct role of the state 
in relation to it. In short, it was a conveyor of religious and political 
radicalism. The means of dissident transmission was by families within great 
kin networks, part of a much broader process of what might be called a 
“cultural genetics"."


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 But thanks to people like George Fox, the Quietist movement lived on under 
different names.
 

 Yes, Jai George Fox!


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 "Kinship, therefore, was a determinant of far more than mere bloodlines: it 
was a radical cultural transmitter, reflecting persistent defining cultural, 
religious, and political traits. It continually revealed repetitive familial 
continuities and ancient customs of significant proportions. Tracing long lines 
of familial descent show that kinship connections almost invariably portended 
the descent of radical religious tendencies, and thus of radical political 
positions. 
 ..Thus, this continuous, repetitive congeries of familial patterns was not 
only accidental, it was an historically definable and demonstrable phenomenon, 
a marvel of great historical significance."
 

 Renegade Yankees 
 The Antinomian Tradition and Agrarian Resistance in the Colonial American 
Northeast, 1636-1809
 by Donald Alan Smith  
 

 

 Miguel de Molinos was the main inspiration.  

 But Madame Guyon - particularly through her book "A Short and Easy Method of 
Prayer" - helped popularize his approach.
 

 Her high-profile supporter was Archbishop Fenelon.
 

 All three were targeted by the Church hierarchy. The history of Catholicism 
would have been radically different if their ideas had been treated with more 
respect.

 

 Jeanne-Marie Bouvier de la Motte-Guyon
  


 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 MD, as one Western transcendental meditationist remarkably you evidently are 
part of a long line-bred tradition that came out of European separatist 
spirituality. This dissertation I am reading describes this as like the 
genetics of cultural familial DNA, a “cultural genetics” passing as cultured 
from generation to generation. 
 ..In your case the English Lollard antinoniam line to New England affecting 
radical religion and politics. There were other transcendentalist spiritual 
lines that migrated directly out of Europe also which affected our American 
radical (transcendent) spirituality (equality) and political sensibilities 
(rights) as to the proper role of church and State in our culture.

 I would nominate you for a Maharishi Award in recognition of you and your 
family's long relationship with this.
 

 -JaiGuruYou!
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Good example, MD of how a spiritual movements can spread in a time.  Sort of 
like TM did in the 1950-70's. By shakti of experience and then word of mouth 
from family and friends.  That was the Quaker spiritual movement in its day.  
Mobility through kin and connection.   

 Someone here in Fairfield with connection to Vermont and New England just 
handed me a 900 page dissertation that was written on the spread of what the 
author is calling,  'antinomianism' of various shades.  A study of separatist 
spirituality from European roots moving across New England, jumping and going 
around what was then the ISIS-like colony of its day, Massachusetts Colony to 
settle further into New England.   

 A thesis in this work amongst others is that this separatist spirituality 
(different than religion) moved in its day followi

[FairfieldLife] Re: More reasons to vote for The Donald??

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 There's a common sophomoric question: If you could go back in time would you 
kill Hitler before he gained power?
 

 This is a very complicated question. If there is no God, no order or real 
reason in the Universe, nothing other than what obviously (to our five senses) 
exists on this planet and in the galaxies around us, then yes, I would have 
killed Hitler before he gained power if I had foreseen the future. As it 
happens, I believe there is a God, that there are multiple worlds and universes 
and planes of existences and that there are, ultimately, reasons for all that 
happens I would have to answer "no", I would most likely not have killed him. 
But this is theoretical based on the idea that we can go back in time and try 
and change the future, which we can't.
 

 I'd reply no as I have pronounced quietist tendencies but many (most?) would 
say yes.
 

 For those who compare Trump to the Austrian corporal isn't the logic of their 
position that they should assassinate Trump?
 

 Not in my case and Trump will be unlikely to gain the power of Hitler. We know 
too much and Hitler's atrocities are too recent. Too many see the similarities 
to allow this to get too out of hand. No, I want to see what happens to Drumpf, 
I want to see him flame out and to see what is coming to him and those who 
support him. It is going to be a fascinating display of justice and 
retribution. Maybe I'm just a silly optimist though. There are others who are 
probably already plotting his physical demise but I hope that doesn't happen - 
it would be too simplistic and cut short the way things are supposed to unfold, 
IMHO. There are some important lessons and truths to emerge from this whole 
fiasco.
 



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The *talk* is going around.
 
 


 From: "hepa7@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2016 8:46 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: More reasons to vote for The Donald??
 
 
   

 Well, I'm afraid Trump might very soon be as good as "lifeless", if you know 
what I mean...

 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 No one has said  anything about *design* to trick anybody. A wealthy person 
can give all that he has to help the poor and then become poor himself. What 
has he accomplished? Feeding a bunch of people for a day and then making 
himself poor as well, At that point, he becomes a victim as well, needing help 
himself. This is not being smart, not how he became wealthy in the first place. 
Better to have a strategy that helps all and doesn't hurt anyone. The first 
rule of the Hippocratic oath is *do no harm*, neither to the patient nor the 
doctor. A dead doctor doesn't heal anyone!

 I'm sure Europe doesn't want to go through those bombed out buildings again.
 

 No, you used the word "intent" which implies some sort of manipulation of the 
viewer through the use of these photos. These are journalistic photographs of 
what is going on, not some staged actors playing the part of victims 
accompanied by saccharine background music. You can either accept it or not. 
You can either turn away or not. You can either put yourself 
mentally/imaginatively in these people's situation or not and try and 
understand the fear, the uncertainty, the devastation. You can realize that 
other humans seeking refuge from such horrendous war conditions need help or 
you might not. You could, certainly, conceive of the fact that human beings 
coming to this big country we call "America" might add diversity, richness and 
more humanity instead of having a decimating effect on what you perceive of as 
"America" or not. It is your choice, your ability or inability or willingness 
or unwillingness to accept this possibility which determines your status as 
either compassionate or narrow and small - living in fear and constriction. 
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2016 8:40 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This is exactly what I'm referring to when I say *the heart*. All emotion. 
Such pictures tug on the *heart strings*. The intent is to evoke compassion , 
for those affected, the desire to help. Nothing wrong with that! Just don't 
create more and bigger problems with the solution! Don't destroy what you have 
in the name of helping others out of their unfortunate circumstances.

 

 Mike, these images are what they are. They aren't "designed" to do anything - 
they are what is happening, they are not staged or embellished. Bombed out 
cities really exist in Syria, real blood is being spilled, families are being 
decimated. This isn't some fiction made up in Hollywood - these are images 
captured on camera by journalists.
 

 Your final sentence is self serving  and remarkably selfish. Don't 
inconvenience yourself or threaten your own comfort by putting yourself out for 
others who are in danger of losing their lives. No siree, let's just make sure 
we all have our daily bread and our creature comforts and the rest of those 
poor sods be damned; fend for yourselves you unlucky bastards. 
 
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 8:51 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Maharishi also speaks in the Gita about the balance of heart and mind. One 
should not rule over the other. If we are all compassionate without thinking 
things through, we get ourselves in trouble. If we are all mind and intellect, 
we lose our full potential as humans. There needs to be a balance.Maharishi 
said Arjuna had a rare balance of both heart and mind. He didn't want to fight 
and kill his own family and loved ones but he also knew the consequences of not 
doing his duty. In the end, Arjuna performs his duty and fulfills his dharma.

 
 Nobody wants entire populations uprooted and moved into foreign, both 
culturally and physically, new locations that cause conflict for everyone 
involved, yet this is the result of past policies in the EU. Europeans are 
rethinking what they have done and realizing being open and unconditionally 
welcoming without thinking things through wasn't the smartest move for either 
migrants or their local populations. There have got to be better ways that have 
not been explored yet.
 

 Well, when you think of what those "better ways" might be have a look at what 
these fellow human beings are fleeing from/dealing with.
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 11:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Yes, we saw what the open, welcoming and loving arms of the Europeans brought 
them. I doubt that the Pope's washing the feet of Muslims will have any affect 
on Muslims(in general), maybe on his own soul 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Good Friday Message of Divine Love

[upfron...@ymail.com [FairfieldLife]]

Well, for anyone who might have an interest and without any further additions 
which might cause upset, this is the entry I put in the Personal column of our 
local paper last year on Good Friday [quite apt for Sunday Morn]... Peace


 Extract from "LESSER CALVARIES”, spoken by the Unnamed Scribe (Mark 12:28-34) 
at the Greater World Circle, on Saturday, 10th March, 1928. 

  
 "All through the ages there have been these lesser Calvaries, in the sense 
that no one was, or could be, so sensitive as the Beloved. Literally, He bore 
the burdens of His creation; literally, today the Christ, our Father and Mother 
God, bears the pangs of suffering humanity.
  
 "Oh, think of this: There are, in the world today, so-called good men and 
women; but how much do they bear of the burdens of others? How far does 
intuition take them? Can they say: 'I understand'? That, little ones, is where 
the goodness of the earth and the goodness of the Spirit so little resemble 
each other.
  
 "In the measure that the traveller upon the earth enters not into the lot of 
others, so is the distance in development between himself and Christ as He 
lived, even as you and I. Christ walked amongst the crowd and the crowd drew 
from Him love and compassion and understanding. There was never one who could 
rightly say: 'The Master could not enter into my lot'. Nay, if they but passed 
Him, that which you name their conditions were His own.
  
 "Therefore, whatever the sufferings of the individual, it is a lesser Calvary 
than His. And think not that that word represents the Cross alone. Nay, little 
ones, Calvary was, as it were, spread over the life of the Master; and when you 
are free, you will go back over incident and happening right from the time when 
the Babe was born in Bethlehem, and you shall see for yourselves that although 
man may name one incident the Cross, the shadow of the Cross was upon the Child 
from early years.
  
 "Yet forget not that the Child was born under the star, and this explains much 
and it applies to all. If the star lengthens into the cross as the days and 
years go on, oh, remember ever that when the garment is cast aside, no cross 
remains, but the star of resurrection has been made his own."
 

 
...and again Peace