Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query
salyavin, you posted a comment with the c word in it and you called Richard a crude name. How is my reading of those events obscured? And those were expressions of your opinion, not reality. I've expressed my opinions about Richard before. I recognize that he posts a lot and repeats a lot. BUT, I don't find the tone of his posts malicious. imo that's the essence of trollness. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 1:37 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : OMG, Richard, what happened to salyavin? He used to sound pretty even tempered and reasonable. Now he's saying vile stuff to you. And using the c word! Jeez... What is it that obscures your view of reality Share? Even if you randomly read only 1% of Willy's posts you'll know he is a pointless troll whose only purpose here is to annoy people. How mature do you think that is? This why he hasn't gone to play on Jim's site, because he's got nothing to say that isn't deliberately aggravating to someone, so who would want him? Unless Jim is playing a the enemy of my enemy is my friend game, he isn't going to want 300 dumb and predictable posts littering the place up every week. So we're stuck with him until someone starts a say nothing as many times as you like site. 10 years he's been doing it. At least! The longer he stays as the only troll here the stupider he is going to look, so he's welcome to waste his life nagging at me, it bothers me not one jot. From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query On 11/30/2014 9:44 AM, Share Longwrote: dearRichard, I'll really miss you. Thank you for all thelaughter and knowledge and good you've brought into mylife. all the best always to you and Rita and your wholefamily,Share Thanks. Maybe you should considersubscribing to The Peak. From:'Richard J. Williams' punditster@...[FairfieldLife]FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent:Monday, November 17, 2014 11:16 AM Subject:Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query On11/17/2014 9:58 AM, Share Long wrote: Richard, Itried this last night but didn'tnotice anything different. Maybe cuzI didn't sit up in bed when I didit? And I forgot to do it thismorning. Nonetheless, will soldieron, thanks again for posting. Thetechnique may not work for justanyone. Apparently MMY dropped usingthis technique himself for somereason, but I found it quiteenjoyable. People usually think thoughts justbefore going to sleep but quite oftenthey are just random thinking withoutany direction. Until I was taught the NightTechnique by Satyanand, I usedanother technique that I developedmyself - you simply think of somethingpositive to look forward to the nextday and then slip into sleep. It works too, but not as well. Thereis something about the directed soundvibration than is a subtle relaxingfeeling with the bija mantra - LayaYoga while you sleep. From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent:Sunday, November 16,2014 8:20 AM Subject:Re: [FairfieldLife]Lucid-dreaming query On 11/15/2014 5:22 PM,s3raphitawrote: So last night I had alucidexperiencewhile dreaming(it's happeneda few timesbefore -alwaysinvoluntary asI've neverbothered tofollow thetechniquesrecommended bydevotees ofthisperception).At least Iassume it wasa lucid-dreamexperience - Isuppose onecould have anormal dreamwhich includedthe falsethought thatone was lucidwhen in factone wasn't (ifyou can followthatexplanation).What's more, Iwoke up (forreal), musedabout thedream for aminute, thenfell asleepagain andimmediatelywent back intothe same dreamlandscape inthe sameself-conscious,lucid state.Now I'd heard thatwhen in alucid dreamyou can alterthedreamscapeto suityourself. Soyou might findit amusing toflip over intobeing a Zeropilot on akamikazemission anddiving intothe GoldenDome inFairfield.Whateverfloats yourboat. Anyway,though I waslucidlyself-awarethat I wasindeeddreaming Icouldn'tchange thestorynarrationunfoldingbefore me sojust left thedream to runits coursewhileabsorbing thenovelexperience.Myquestion is:is there sometrick togetting thedream tochange to suityour whim oris it a caseof practicemakes perfect?Or maybe mostlucid dreamsare like mine?Or maybe mywill power isfeeblecompared withmy imaginativepower andothers have amore dominantwill? Thetrick is topractice aLaya Yogatechnique welearned fromSatyanand: Whenyou are readyfor sleep youjust sit up inbed and thenlet your bijamantra rest atthe heartchakra for afew minutes.That way, thesubtlecurrents fromyourIstadevatawill permeateyour entirebeing whileyou sleep
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, you posted a comment with the c word in it and you called Richard a crude name. How is my reading of those events obscured? And those were expressions of your opinion, not reality. I've expressed my opinions about Richard before. I recognize that he posts a lot and repeats a lot. BUT, I don't find the tone of his posts malicious. imo that's the essence of trollness. You are funny. He doesn't engage, he has no opinion that he wants to talk about, he comes here just to piss people off, what else do you need to know? It's called trolling. Annoying people for your own amusement. If it makes him happy I'm happy to ignore him. What I did do yesterday was point out how much he stands out now that the others have gone. I shall go back to ignoring him and he'll either leave or die of boredom by the end of the week. Actually, I don't suppose he will, he wants to piss in the well until no one else wants to visit this place. Some sort of childish last-man-standing sort of thing. Good luck to him if that's how he wants to waste his life. He should join Jim's group and see if he can rediscover his personality before it's too late. But actually conversing requires thinking and that takes effort. I doubt he'll bother. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 1:37 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : OMG, Richard, what happened to salyavin? He used to sound pretty even tempered and reasonable. Now he's saying vile stuff to you. And using the c word! Jeez... What is it that obscures your view of reality Share? Even if you randomly read only 1% of Willy's posts you'll know he is a pointless troll whose only purpose here is to annoy people. How mature do you think that is? This why he hasn't gone to play on Jim's site, because he's got nothing to say that isn't deliberately aggravating to someone, so who would want him? Unless Jim is playing a the enemy of my enemy is my friend game, he isn't going to want 300 dumb and predictable posts littering the place up every week. So we're stuck with him until someone starts a say nothing as many times as you like site. 10 years he's been doing it. At least! The longer he stays as the only troll here the stupider he is going to look, so he's welcome to waste his life nagging at me, it bothers me not one jot. From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query On 11/30/2014 9:44 AM, Share Long wrote: dear Richard, I'll really miss you. Thank you for all the laughter and knowledge and good you've brought into my life. all the best always to you and Rita and your whole family, Share Thanks. Maybe you should consider subscribing to The Peak. From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... mailto:punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query On 11/17/2014 9:58 AM, Share Long wrote: Richard, I tried this last night but didn't notice anything different. Maybe cuz I didn't sit up in bed when I did it? And I forgot to do it this morning. Nonetheless, will soldier on, thanks again for posting. The technique may not work for just anyone. Apparently MMY dropped using this technique himself for some reason, but I found it quite enjoyable. People usually think thoughts just before going to sleep but quite often they are just random thinking without any direction. Until I was taught the Night Technique by Satyanand, I used another technique that I developed myself - you simply think of something positive to look forward to the next day and then slip into sleep. It works too, but not as well. There is something about the directed sound vibration than is a subtle relaxing feeling with the bija mantra - Laya Yoga while you sleep. From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... mailto:punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query On 11/15/2014 5:22 PM, s3raphita wrote: So last night I had a lucid experience while dreaming (it's happened a few times before - always involuntary as I've never bothered to follow the techniques recommended by devotees of this perception). At least I assume it was a lucid-dream experience - I suppose one
Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query
salyavin, ok, we have different definitions of troll. And we have different preferences wrt FFL posts. I often enjoy your posts and I often enjoy Richard's posts. And I think we all are responsible for what happens here. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 7:05 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, you posted a comment with the c word in it and you called Richard a crude name. How is my reading of those events obscured? And those were expressions of your opinion, not reality. I've expressed my opinions about Richard before. I recognize that he posts a lot and repeats a lot. BUT, I don't find the tone of his posts malicious. imo that's the essence of trollness. You are funny. He doesn't engage, he has no opinion that he wants to talk about, he comes here just to piss people off, what else do you need to know? It's called trolling. Annoying people for your own amusement. If it makes him happy I'm happy to ignore him. What I did do yesterday was point out how much he stands out now that the others have gone. I shall go back to ignoring him and he'll either leave or die of boredom by the end of the week. Actually, I don't suppose he will, he wants to piss in the well until no one else wants to visit this place. Some sort of childish last-man-standing sort of thing. Good luck to him if that's how he wants to waste his life. He should join Jim's group and see if he can rediscover his personality before it's too late. But actually conversing requires thinking and that takes effort. I doubt he'll bother. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 1:37 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : OMG, Richard, what happened to salyavin? He used to sound pretty even tempered and reasonable. Now he's saying vile stuff to you. And using the c word! Jeez... What is it that obscures your view of reality Share? Even if you randomly read only 1% of Willy's posts you'll know he is a pointless troll whose only purpose here is to annoy people. How mature do you think that is? This why he hasn't gone to play on Jim's site, because he's got nothing to say that isn't deliberately aggravating to someone, so who would want him? Unless Jim is playing a the enemy of my enemy is my friend game, he isn't going to want 300 dumb and predictable posts littering the place up every week. So we're stuck with him until someone starts a say nothing as many times as you like site. 10 years he's been doing it. At least! The longer he stays as the only troll here the stupider he is going to look, so he's welcome to waste his life nagging at me, it bothers me not one jot. From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query On 11/30/2014 9:44 AM, Share Longwrote: dearRichard, I'll really miss you. Thank you for all thelaughter and knowledge and good you've brought into mylife. all the best always to you and Rita and your wholefamily,Share Thanks. Maybe you should considersubscribing to The Peak. From:'Richard J. Williams' punditster@...[FairfieldLife]FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent:Monday, November 17, 2014 11:16 AM Subject:Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query On11/17/2014 9:58 AM, Share Long wrote: Richard, Itried this last night but didn'tnotice anything different. Maybe cuzI didn't sit up in bed when I didit? And I forgot to do it thismorning. Nonetheless, will soldieron, thanks again for posting. Thetechnique may not work for justanyone. Apparently MMY dropped usingthis technique himself for somereason, but I found it quiteenjoyable. People usually think thoughts justbefore going to sleep but quite oftenthey are just random thinking withoutany direction. Until I was taught the NightTechnique by Satyanand, I usedanother technique that I developedmyself - you simply think of somethingpositive to look forward to the nextday and then slip into sleep. It works too, but not as well. Thereis something about the directed soundvibration than is a subtle relaxingfeeling with the bija mantra - LayaYoga while you sleep. From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent:Sunday, November 16,2014 8:20 AM Subject:Re: [FairfieldLife]Lucid-dreaming query On 11/15/2014 5:22 PM,s3raphitawrote: So last night I had alucidexperiencewhile dreaming(it's happeneda few timesbefore -alwaysinvoluntary asI've neverbothered tofollow thetechniquesrecommended bydevotees ofthisperception
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, ok, we have different definitions of troll. And we have different preferences wrt FFL posts. I often enjoy your posts and I often enjoy Richard's posts. And I think we all are responsible for what happens here. I'm not responsible for anyone else. If they can't cope with life and have to troll on here I just ignore them (apart from the occasional prod so they waste even more time) What's your definition of troll if it differs from everyone elses? From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 7:05 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, you posted a comment with the c word in it and you called Richard a crude name. How is my reading of those events obscured? And those were expressions of your opinion, not reality. I've expressed my opinions about Richard before. I recognize that he posts a lot and repeats a lot. BUT, I don't find the tone of his posts malicious. imo that's the essence of trollness. You are funny. He doesn't engage, he has no opinion that he wants to talk about, he comes here just to piss people off, what else do you need to know? It's called trolling. Annoying people for your own amusement. If it makes him happy I'm happy to ignore him. What I did do yesterday was point out how much he stands out now that the others have gone. I shall go back to ignoring him and he'll either leave or die of boredom by the end of the week. Actually, I don't suppose he will, he wants to piss in the well until no one else wants to visit this place. Some sort of childish last-man-standing sort of thing. Good luck to him if that's how he wants to waste his life. He should join Jim's group and see if he can rediscover his personality before it's too late. But actually conversing requires thinking and that takes effort. I doubt he'll bother. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 1:37 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : OMG, Richard, what happened to salyavin? He used to sound pretty even tempered and reasonable. Now he's saying vile stuff to you. And using the c word! Jeez... What is it that obscures your view of reality Share? Even if you randomly read only 1% of Willy's posts you'll know he is a pointless troll whose only purpose here is to annoy people. How mature do you think that is? This why he hasn't gone to play on Jim's site, because he's got nothing to say that isn't deliberately aggravating to someone, so who would want him? Unless Jim is playing a the enemy of my enemy is my friend game, he isn't going to want 300 dumb and predictable posts littering the place up every week. So we're stuck with him until someone starts a say nothing as many times as you like site. 10 years he's been doing it. At least! The longer he stays as the only troll here the stupider he is going to look, so he's welcome to waste his life nagging at me, it bothers me not one jot. From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query On 11/30/2014 9:44 AM, Share Long wrote: dear Richard, I'll really miss you. Thank you for all the laughter and knowledge and good you've brought into my life. all the best always to you and Rita and your whole family, Share Thanks. Maybe you should consider subscribing to The Peak. From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... mailto:punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query On 11/17/2014 9:58 AM, Share Long wrote: Richard, I tried this last night but didn't notice anything different. Maybe cuz I didn't sit up in bed when I did it? And I forgot to do it this morning. Nonetheless, will soldier on, thanks again for posting. The technique may not work for just anyone. Apparently MMY dropped using this technique himself for some reason, but I found it quite enjoyable. People usually think thoughts just before going to sleep but quite often they are just random thinking without any direction. Until I was taught the Night Technique by Satyanand, I used another technique that I developed myself - you simply think of something positive to look forward to the next day and then slip into sleep. It works too, but not as well. There is something about the directed sound vibration than
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salyavin, a troll for me is someone who writes with a malicious tone. I don't get that from Richard's posts. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, ok, we have different definitions of troll. And we have different preferences wrt FFL posts. I often enjoy your posts and I often enjoy Richard's posts. And I think we all are responsible for what happens here. I'm not responsible for anyone else. If they can't cope with life and have to troll on here I just ignore them (apart from the occasional prod so they waste even more time) What's your definition of troll if it differs from everyone elses? From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 7:05 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, you posted a comment with the c word in it and you called Richard a crude name. How is my reading of those events obscured? And those were expressions of your opinion, not reality. I've expressed my opinions about Richard before. I recognize that he posts a lot and repeats a lot. BUT, I don't find the tone of his posts malicious. imo that's the essence of trollness. You are funny. He doesn't engage, he has no opinion that he wants to talk about, he comes here just to piss people off, what else do you need to know? It's called trolling. Annoying people for your own amusement. If it makes him happy I'm happy to ignore him. What I did do yesterday was point out how much he stands out now that the others have gone. I shall go back to ignoring him and he'll either leave or die of boredom by the end of the week. Actually, I don't suppose he will, he wants to piss in the well until no one else wants to visit this place. Some sort of childish last-man-standing sort of thing. Good luck to him if that's how he wants to waste his life. He should join Jim's group and see if he can rediscover his personality before it's too late. But actually conversing requires thinking and that takes effort. I doubt he'll bother. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 1:37 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : OMG, Richard, what happened to salyavin? He used to sound pretty even tempered and reasonable. Now he's saying vile stuff to you. And using the c word! Jeez... What is it that obscures your view of reality Share? Even if you randomly read only 1% of Willy's posts you'll know he is a pointless troll whose only purpose here is to annoy people. How mature do you think that is? This why he hasn't gone to play on Jim's site, because he's got nothing to say that isn't deliberately aggravating to someone, so who would want him? Unless Jim is playing a the enemy of my enemy is my friend game, he isn't going to want 300 dumb and predictable posts littering the place up every week. So we're stuck with him until someone starts a say nothing as many times as you like site. 10 years he's been doing it. At least! The longer he stays as the only troll here the stupider he is going to look, so he's welcome to waste his life nagging at me, it bothers me not one jot. From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query On 11/30/2014 9:44 AM, Share Longwrote: dearRichard, I'll really miss you. Thank you for all thelaughter and knowledge and good you've brought into mylife. all the best always to you and Rita and your wholefamily,Share Thanks. Maybe you should considersubscribing to The Peak. From:'Richard J. Williams' punditster@...[FairfieldLife]FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent:Monday, November 17, 2014 11:16 AM Subject:Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query On11/17/2014 9:58 AM, Share Long wrote: Richard, Itried this last night but didn'tnotice anything different. Maybe cuzI didn't sit up in bed when I didit? And I forgot to do it thismorning. Nonetheless, will soldieron, thanks again for posting. Thetechnique may not work for justanyone. Apparently MMY dropped usingthis technique himself for somereason, but I found it quiteenjoyable. People usually think thoughts justbefore going to sleep but quite oftenthey are just random thinking withoutany direction. Until I was taught the NightTechnique by Satyanand, I usedanother technique that I developedmyself - you simply think of somethingpositive to look forward to the nextday and then slip into sleep. It works too
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, a troll for me is someone who writes with a malicious tone. I don't get that from Richard's posts. OK, maybe someone should spend a week doing to you what he does to everyone else. But I couldn't see the point of wasting my time like that. Go figure. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, ok, we have different definitions of troll. And we have different preferences wrt FFL posts. I often enjoy your posts and I often enjoy Richard's posts. And I think we all are responsible for what happens here. I'm not responsible for anyone else. If they can't cope with life and have to troll on here I just ignore them (apart from the occasional prod so they waste even more time) What's your definition of troll if it differs from everyone elses? From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 7:05 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, you posted a comment with the c word in it and you called Richard a crude name. How is my reading of those events obscured? And those were expressions of your opinion, not reality. I've expressed my opinions about Richard before. I recognize that he posts a lot and repeats a lot. BUT, I don't find the tone of his posts malicious. imo that's the essence of trollness. You are funny. He doesn't engage, he has no opinion that he wants to talk about, he comes here just to piss people off, what else do you need to know? It's called trolling. Annoying people for your own amusement. If it makes him happy I'm happy to ignore him. What I did do yesterday was point out how much he stands out now that the others have gone. I shall go back to ignoring him and he'll either leave or die of boredom by the end of the week. Actually, I don't suppose he will, he wants to piss in the well until no one else wants to visit this place. Some sort of childish last-man-standing sort of thing. Good luck to him if that's how he wants to waste his life. He should join Jim's group and see if he can rediscover his personality before it's too late. But actually conversing requires thinking and that takes effort. I doubt he'll bother. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 1:37 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : OMG, Richard, what happened to salyavin? He used to sound pretty even tempered and reasonable. Now he's saying vile stuff to you. And using the c word! Jeez... What is it that obscures your view of reality Share? Even if you randomly read only 1% of Willy's posts you'll know he is a pointless troll whose only purpose here is to annoy people. How mature do you think that is? This why he hasn't gone to play on Jim's site, because he's got nothing to say that isn't deliberately aggravating to someone, so who would want him? Unless Jim is playing a the enemy of my enemy is my friend game, he isn't going to want 300 dumb and predictable posts littering the place up every week. So we're stuck with him until someone starts a say nothing as many times as you like site. 10 years he's been doing it. At least! The longer he stays as the only troll here the stupider he is going to look, so he's welcome to waste his life nagging at me, it bothers me not one jot. From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query On 11/30/2014 9:44 AM, Share Long wrote: dear Richard, I'll really miss you. Thank you for all the laughter and knowledge and good you've brought into my life. all the best always to you and Rita and your whole family, Share Thanks. Maybe you should consider subscribing to The Peak. From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... mailto:punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query On 11/17/2014 9:58 AM, Share Long wrote: Richard, I tried this last night but didn't notice anything different. Maybe cuz I didn't sit up in bed when I did it? And I forgot to do it this morning. Nonetheless, will soldier on, thanks again for posting. The technique may not work for just anyone. Apparently MMY
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On 12/1/2014 11:40 AM, Share Long wrote: salyavin, a troll for me is someone who writes with a malicious tone. I don't get that from Richard's posts. /Troll - A person who sends duplicitous messages to get angry responses./ /Trolls are sometimes caricatured as socially inept. This is often due to the fundamental attribution error, as it is impossible to know the real traits of an individual solely from their online discourse. Indeed, since intentional trolls are alleged to knowingly flout social boundaries, it is difficult to typecast them as socially inept since they have arguably proven adept at their goal./
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dear Richard, I'll really miss you. Thank you for all the laughter and
knowledge and good you've brought into my life. all the best always to you and
Rita and your whole family,Share
From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query
On 11/17/2014 9:58 AM, Share Long wrote:
Richard, I tried this last night but didn't notice anything different.
Maybe cuz I didn't sit up in bed when I did it? And I forgot to do it this
morning. Nonetheless, will soldier on, thanks again for posting.
The technique may not work for just anyone. Apparently MMY dropped using this
technique himself for some reason, but I found it quite enjoyable.
People usually think thoughts just before going to sleep but quite often they
are just random thinking without any direction.
Until I was taught the Night Technique by Satyanand, I used another
technique that I developed myself - you simply think of something positive to
look forward to the next day and then slip into sleep.
It works too, but not as well. There is something about the directed sound
vibration than is a subtle relaxing feeling with the bija mantra - Laya Yoga
while you sleep.
From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 8:20 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query
On 11/15/2014 5:22 PM, s3raphita wrote:
So last night I had a lucid experience while dreaming (it's happened a few
times before - always involuntary as I've never bothered to follow the
techniques recommended by devotees of this perception). At least I assume it
was a lucid-dream experience - I suppose one could have a normal dream which
included the false thought that one was lucid when in fact one wasn't (if you
can follow that explanation). What's more, I woke up (for real), mused about
the dream for a minute, then fell asleep again and immediately went back into
the same dream landscape in the same self-conscious, lucid state. Now I'd heard
that when in a lucid dream you can alter the dreamscape to suit yourself. So
you might find it amusing to flip over into being a Zero pilot on a kamikaze
mission and diving into the Golden Dome in Fairfield. Whatever floats your
boat. Anyway, though I was lucidly self-aware that I was indeed dreaming I
couldn't change the story narration unfolding before me so just left the dream
to run its course while absorbing the novel experience. My question is: is
there some trick to getting the dream to change to suit your whim or is it a
case of practice makes perfect? Or maybe most lucid dreams are like mine? Or
maybe my will power is feeble compared with my imaginative power and others
have a more dominant will?
The trick is to practice a Laya Yoga technique we learned from Satyanand:
When you are ready for sleep you just sit up in bed and then let your bija
mantra rest at the heart chakra for a few minutes. That way, the subtle
currents from your Istadevata will permeate your entire being while you sleep.
For example, my Istadevata is Saraswati, the Goddess of Learning, so by
resting the bija portion of her mantra at the heart chakra, my intelligence
will grow by leaps and bounds, right while I'm sleeping.
Then, when you awaken in the morning you will feel refreshed and full of
energy and knowledge. It's that simple!
Anyone had a similar experience?
Yes. A lucid dream is a dream in which the sleeper is aware that he or she is
dreaming. From what I've read, the phenomenon of lucid dreaming has been well
established by scientific research, so its existence is well established.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query
On 11/30/2014 9:44 AM, Share Long wrote: dear Richard, I'll really miss you. Thank you for all the laughter and knowledge and good you've brought into my life. all the best always to you and Rita and your whole family, Share /Thanks. Maybe you should consider subscribing to The Peak./ *From:* 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, November 17, 2014 11:16 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query On 11/17/2014 9:58 AM, Share Long wrote: Richard, I tried this last night but didn't notice anything different. Maybe cuz I didn't sit up in bed when I did it? And I forgot to do it this morning. Nonetheless, will soldier on, thanks again for posting. /The technique may not work for just anyone. Apparently MMY dropped using this technique himself for some reason, but I found it quite enjoyable. People usually think thoughts just before going to sleep but quite often they are just random thinking without any direction. Until I was taught the Night Technique by Satyanand, I used another technique that I developed myself - you simply think of something positive to look forward to the next day and then slip into sleep. It works too, but not as well. There is something about the directed sound vibration than is a subtle relaxing feeling with the bija mantra - Laya Yoga while you sleep./ *From:* 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com mailto:pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, November 16, 2014 8:20 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query On 11/15/2014 5:22 PM, s3raphita wrote: So last night I had a lucid experience while dreaming (it's happened a few times before - always involuntary as I've never bothered to follow the techniques recommended by devotees of this perception). At least I assume it was a lucid-dream experience - I suppose one could have a normal dream which included the false thought that one was lucid when in fact one wasn't (if you can follow that explanation). What's more, I woke up (for real), mused about the dream for a minute, then fell asleep again and immediately went back into the same dream landscape in the same self-conscious, lucid state. Now I'd heard that when in a lucid dream you can alter the dreamscape to suit yourself. So you might find it amusing to flip over into being a Zero pilot on a kamikaze mission and diving into the Golden Dome in Fairfield. Whatever floats your boat. Anyway, though I was lucidly self-aware that I was indeed dreaming I couldn't change the story narration unfolding before me so just left the dream to run its course while absorbing the novel experience. My question is: is there some trick to getting the dream to change to suit your whim or is it a case of practice makes perfect? Or maybe most lucid dreams are like mine? Or maybe my will power is feeble compared with my imaginative power and others have a more dominant will? /The trick is to practice a Laya Yoga technique we learned from Satyanand: // // //When you are ready for sleep you just sit up in bed and then let your bija mantra rest at the heart chakra for a few minutes. That way, the subtle currents from your Istadevata will permeate your entire being while you sleep. For example, my Istadevata is Saraswati, the Goddess of Learning, so by resting the bija portion of her mantra at the heart chakra, my intelligence will grow by leaps and bounds, right while I'm sleeping. Then, when you awaken in the morning you will feel refreshed and full of energy and knowledge. It's that simple!/ Anyone had a similar experience? /Yes. A lucid dream is a dream in which the sleeper is aware that he or she is dreaming. From what I've read, the phenomenon of lucid dreaming has been well established by scientific research, so its existence is well established. /
Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query
OMG, Richard, what happened to salyavin? He used to sound pretty even tempered
and reasonable. Now he's saying vile stuff to you. And using the c word! Jeez...
From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query
On 11/30/2014 9:44 AM, Share Long wrote:
dear Richard, I'll really miss you. Thank you for all the laughter and
knowledge and good you've brought into my life. all the best always to you and
Rita and your whole family, Share
Thanks. Maybe you should consider subscribing to The Peak.
From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query
On 11/17/2014 9:58 AM, Share Long wrote:
Richard, I tried this last night but didn't notice anything different.
Maybe cuz I didn't sit up in bed when I did it? And I forgot to do it this
morning. Nonetheless, will soldier on, thanks again for posting.
The technique may not work for just anyone. Apparently MMY dropped using this
technique himself for some reason, but I found it quite enjoyable.
People usually think thoughts just before going to sleep but quite often they
are just random thinking without any direction.
Until I was taught the Night Technique by Satyanand, I used another
technique that I developed myself - you simply think of something positive to
look forward to the next day and then slip into sleep.
It works too, but not as well. There is something about the directed sound
vibration than is a subtle relaxing feeling with the bija mantra - Laya Yoga
while you sleep.
From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 8:20 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query
On 11/15/2014 5:22 PM, s3raphita wrote:
So last night I had a lucid experience while dreaming (it's happened a few
times before - always involuntary as I've never bothered to follow the
techniques recommended by devotees of this perception). At least I assume
it was a lucid-dream experience - I suppose one could have a normal dream
which included the false thought that one was lucid when in fact one wasn't
(if you can follow that explanation). What's more, I woke up (for real),
mused about the dream for a minute, then fell asleep again and immediately
went back into the same dream landscape in the same self-conscious, lucid
state. Now I'd heard that when in a lucid dream you can alter the dreamscape
to suit yourself. So you might find it amusing to flip over into being a Zero
pilot on a kamikaze mission and diving into the Golden Dome in Fairfield.
Whatever floats your boat. Anyway, though I was lucidly self-aware that I was
indeed dreaming I couldn't change the story narration unfolding before me so
just left the dream to run its course while absorbing the novel experience.
My question is: is there some trick to getting the dream to change to suit
your whim or is it a case of practice makes perfect? Or maybe most lucid
dreams are like mine? Or maybe my will power is feeble compared with my
imaginative power and others have a more dominant will?
The trick is to practice a Laya Yoga technique we learned from Satyanand:
When you are ready for sleep you just sit up in bed and then let your bija
mantra rest at the heart chakra for a few minutes. That way, the subtle
currents from your Istadevata will permeate your entire being while you
sleep.
For example, my Istadevata is Saraswati, the Goddess of Learning, so by
resting the bija portion of her mantra at the heart chakra, my intelligence
will grow by leaps and bounds, right while I'm sleeping.
Then, when you awaken in the morning you will feel refreshed and full of
energy and knowledge. It's that simple!
Anyone had a similar experience?
Yes. A lucid dream is a dream in which the sleeper is aware that he or she
is dreaming. From what I've read, the phenomenon of lucid dreaming has been
well established by scientific research, so its existence is well
established.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : OMG, Richard, what happened to salyavin? He used to sound pretty even tempered and reasonable. Now he's saying vile stuff to you. And using the c word! Jeez... What is it that obscures your view of reality Share? Even if you randomly read only 1% of Willy's posts you'll know he is a pointless troll whose only purpose here is to annoy people. How mature do you think that is? This why he hasn't gone to play on Jim's site, because he's got nothing to say that isn't deliberately aggravating to someone, so who would want him? Unless Jim is playing a the enemy of my enemy is my friend game, he isn't going to want 300 dumb and predictable posts littering the place up every week. So we're stuck with him until someone starts a say nothing as many times as you like site. 10 years he's been doing it. At least! The longer he stays as the only troll here the stupider he is going to look, so he's welcome to waste his life nagging at me, it bothers me not one jot. From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query On 11/30/2014 9:44 AM, Share Long wrote: dear Richard, I'll really miss you. Thank you for all the laughter and knowledge and good you've brought into my life. all the best always to you and Rita and your whole family, Share Thanks. Maybe you should consider subscribing to The Peak. From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... mailto:punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query On 11/17/2014 9:58 AM, Share Long wrote: Richard, I tried this last night but didn't notice anything different. Maybe cuz I didn't sit up in bed when I did it? And I forgot to do it this morning. Nonetheless, will soldier on, thanks again for posting. The technique may not work for just anyone. Apparently MMY dropped using this technique himself for some reason, but I found it quite enjoyable. People usually think thoughts just before going to sleep but quite often they are just random thinking without any direction. Until I was taught the Night Technique by Satyanand, I used another technique that I developed myself - you simply think of something positive to look forward to the next day and then slip into sleep. It works too, but not as well. There is something about the directed sound vibration than is a subtle relaxing feeling with the bija mantra - Laya Yoga while you sleep. From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... mailto:punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query On 11/15/2014 5:22 PM, s3raphita wrote: So last night I had a lucid experience while dreaming (it's happened a few times before - always involuntary as I've never bothered to follow the techniques recommended by devotees of this perception). At least I assume it was a lucid-dream experience - I suppose one could have a normal dream which included the false thought that one was lucid when in fact one wasn't (if you can follow that explanation). What's more, I woke up (for real), mused about the dream for a minute, then fell asleep again and immediately went back into the same dream landscape in the same self-conscious, lucid state. Now I'd heard that when in a lucid dream you can alter the dreamscape to suit yourself. So you might find it amusing to flip over into being a Zero pilot on a kamikaze mission and diving into the Golden Dome in Fairfield. Whatever floats your boat. Anyway, though I was lucidly self-aware that I was indeed dreaming I couldn't change the story narration unfolding before me so just left the dream to run its course while absorbing the novel experience. My question is: is there some trick to getting the dream to change to suit your whim or is it a case of practice makes perfect? Or maybe most lucid dreams are like mine? Or maybe my will power is feeble compared with my imaginative power and others have a more dominant will? The trick is to practice a Laya Yoga technique we learned from Satyanand: When you are ready for sleep you just sit up in bed and then let your bija mantra rest at the heart chakra for a few minutes. That way, the subtle currents from your Istadevata will permeate your entire being while you sleep. For example, my Istadevata is Saraswati, the Goddess of Learning, so by resting the bija portion of her mantra at the heart
Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query
Richard, I hope you and Rita had a wonderful Thanksgiving yesterday. I got to
speak with my Dad and step Mom and my Mom who was also celebrating her 84th
birthday. Great photos posted on FB too.
From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query
On 11/17/2014 9:58 AM, Share Long wrote:
Richard, I tried this last night but didn't notice anything different.
Maybe cuz I didn't sit up in bed when I did it? And I forgot to do it this
morning. Nonetheless, will soldier on, thanks again for posting.
The technique may not work for just anyone. Apparently MMY dropped using this
technique himself for some reason, but I found it quite enjoyable.
People usually think thoughts just before going to sleep but quite often they
are just random thinking without any direction.
Until I was taught the Night Technique by Satyanand, I used another
technique that I developed myself - you simply think of something positive to
look forward to the next day and then slip into sleep.
It works too, but not as well. There is something about the directed sound
vibration than is a subtle relaxing feeling with the bija mantra - Laya Yoga
while you sleep.
From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 8:20 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query
On 11/15/2014 5:22 PM, s3raphita wrote:
So last night I had a lucid experience while dreaming (it's happened a few
times before - always involuntary as I've never bothered to follow the
techniques recommended by devotees of this perception). At least I assume it
was a lucid-dream experience - I suppose one could have a normal dream which
included the false thought that one was lucid when in fact one wasn't (if you
can follow that explanation). What's more, I woke up (for real), mused about
the dream for a minute, then fell asleep again and immediately went back into
the same dream landscape in the same self-conscious, lucid state. Now I'd heard
that when in a lucid dream you can alter the dreamscape to suit yourself. So
you might find it amusing to flip over into being a Zero pilot on a kamikaze
mission and diving into the Golden Dome in Fairfield. Whatever floats your
boat. Anyway, though I was lucidly self-aware that I was indeed dreaming I
couldn't change the story narration unfolding before me so just left the dream
to run its course while absorbing the novel experience. My question is: is
there some trick to getting the dream to change to suit your whim or is it a
case of practice makes perfect? Or maybe most lucid dreams are like mine? Or
maybe my will power is feeble compared with my imaginative power and others
have a more dominant will?
The trick is to practice a Laya Yoga technique we learned from Satyanand:
When you are ready for sleep you just sit up in bed and then let your bija
mantra rest at the heart chakra for a few minutes. That way, the subtle
currents from your Istadevata will permeate your entire being while you sleep.
For example, my Istadevata is Saraswati, the Goddess of Learning, so by
resting the bija portion of her mantra at the heart chakra, my intelligence
will grow by leaps and bounds, right while I'm sleeping.
Then, when you awaken in the morning you will feel refreshed and full of
energy and knowledge. It's that simple!
Anyone had a similar experience?
Yes. A lucid dream is a dream in which the sleeper is aware that he or she is
dreaming. From what I've read, the phenomenon of lucid dreaming has been well
established by scientific research, so its existence is well established.
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Richard, since you're a great grandfather, that means that your Dad is a great
great grandfather. Pretty amazing!
From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query [1 Attachment]
[Attachment(s) from Richard J. Williams included below] On 11/28/2014
12:39 PM, Share Long wrote:
Richard, I hope you and Rita had a wonderful Thanksgiving yesterday. I got to
speak with my Dad and step Mom and my Mom who was also celebrating her 84th
birthday. Great photos posted on FB too.
Sounds great, Share!
We just got back from a quick trip to see Dad at his place on the lake. We had
a great Thanksgiving dinner at the local VFW. Before we left we went to
Shepler's and bought ourselves some new blue jeans, belts, cowboy boots and
white western shirts to wear. When we walked in the door I said to Rita Uh oh
- we are over-dressed!
Dad is 86 as of November 23 and he is still working five days a week for the
Ridge Oil Company as the Field Supervisor (formerly company LearJet pilot). Go
figure.
We are moving up there to help him take care of the place when our lease is up
here in San Antonio in the Spring - lots of work to do up there - six lots on
the water, big house. I'll be setting up an equipment database for the oil
company and Rita is going to be editing the company newsletter. Sweet!
J.B. Williams. Lt. Col USAF retired, on Tanglewood Island 2013
http://www.rwilliams.us/latest/newsletter.pdf
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query
Thank you everyone on FFL for all your support, knowledge, humor and
entertainment these last 2 1/2 years. And yes for all the triggerings too LOL
(-:
From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query
On 11/17/2014 9:58 AM, Share Long wrote:
Richard, I tried this last night but didn't notice anything different.
Maybe cuz I didn't sit up in bed when I did it? And I forgot to do it this
morning. Nonetheless, will soldier on, thanks again for posting.
The technique may not work for just anyone. Apparently MMY dropped using this
technique himself for some reason, but I found it quite enjoyable.
People usually think thoughts just before going to sleep but quite often they
are just random thinking without any direction.
Until I was taught the Night Technique by Satyanand, I used another
technique that I developed myself - you simply think of something positive to
look forward to the next day and then slip into sleep.
It works too, but not as well. There is something about the directed sound
vibration than is a subtle relaxing feeling with the bija mantra - Laya Yoga
while you sleep.
From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 8:20 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query
On 11/15/2014 5:22 PM, s3raphita wrote:
So last night I had a lucid experience while dreaming (it's happened a few
times before - always involuntary as I've never bothered to follow the
techniques recommended by devotees of this perception). At least I assume it
was a lucid-dream experience - I suppose one could have a normal dream which
included the false thought that one was lucid when in fact one wasn't (if you
can follow that explanation). What's more, I woke up (for real), mused about
the dream for a minute, then fell asleep again and immediately went back into
the same dream landscape in the same self-conscious, lucid state. Now I'd heard
that when in a lucid dream you can alter the dreamscape to suit yourself. So
you might find it amusing to flip over into being a Zero pilot on a kamikaze
mission and diving into the Golden Dome in Fairfield. Whatever floats your
boat. Anyway, though I was lucidly self-aware that I was indeed dreaming I
couldn't change the story narration unfolding before me so just left the dream
to run its course while absorbing the novel experience. My question is: is
there some trick to getting the dream to change to suit your whim or is it a
case of practice makes perfect? Or maybe most lucid dreams are like mine? Or
maybe my will power is feeble compared with my imaginative power and others
have a more dominant will?
The trick is to practice a Laya Yoga technique we learned from Satyanand:
When you are ready for sleep you just sit up in bed and then let your bija
mantra rest at the heart chakra for a few minutes. That way, the subtle
currents from your Istadevata will permeate your entire being while you sleep.
For example, my Istadevata is Saraswati, the Goddess of Learning, so by
resting the bija portion of her mantra at the heart chakra, my intelligence
will grow by leaps and bounds, right while I'm sleeping.
Then, when you awaken in the morning you will feel refreshed and full of
energy and knowledge. It's that simple!
Anyone had a similar experience?
Yes. A lucid dream is a dream in which the sleeper is aware that he or she is
dreaming. From what I've read, the phenomenon of lucid dreaming has been well
established by scientific research, so its existence is well established.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Thank you everyone on FFL for all your support, knowledge, humor and entertainment these last 2 1/2 years. And yes for all the triggerings too LOL (-: Is this a goodbye? From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query On 11/17/2014 9:58 AM, Share Long wrote: Richard, I tried this last night but didn't notice anything different. Maybe cuz I didn't sit up in bed when I did it? And I forgot to do it this morning. Nonetheless, will soldier on, thanks again for posting. The technique may not work for just anyone. Apparently MMY dropped using this technique himself for some reason, but I found it quite enjoyable. People usually think thoughts just before going to sleep but quite often they are just random thinking without any direction. Until I was taught the Night Technique by Satyanand, I used another technique that I developed myself - you simply think of something positive to look forward to the next day and then slip into sleep. It works too, but not as well. There is something about the directed sound vibration than is a subtle relaxing feeling with the bija mantra - Laya Yoga while you sleep. From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... mailto:punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query On 11/15/2014 5:22 PM, s3raphita wrote: So last night I had a lucid experience while dreaming (it's happened a few times before - always involuntary as I've never bothered to follow the techniques recommended by devotees of this perception). At least I assume it was a lucid-dream experience - I suppose one could have a normal dream which included the false thought that one was lucid when in fact one wasn't (if you can follow that explanation). What's more, I woke up (for real), mused about the dream for a minute, then fell asleep again and immediately went back into the same dream landscape in the same self-conscious, lucid state. Now I'd heard that when in a lucid dream you can alter the dreamscape to suit yourself. So you might find it amusing to flip over into being a Zero pilot on a kamikaze mission and diving into the Golden Dome in Fairfield. Whatever floats your boat. Anyway, though I was lucidly self-aware that I was indeed dreaming I couldn't change the story narration unfolding before me so just left the dream to run its course while absorbing the novel experience. My question is: is there some trick to getting the dream to change to suit your whim or is it a case of practice makes perfect? Or maybe most lucid dreams are like mine? Or maybe my will power is feeble compared with my imaginative power and others have a more dominant will? The trick is to practice a Laya Yoga technique we learned from Satyanand: When you are ready for sleep you just sit up in bed and then let your bija mantra rest at the heart chakra for a few minutes. That way, the subtle currents from your Istadevata will permeate your entire being while you sleep. For example, my Istadevata is Saraswati, the Goddess of Learning, so by resting the bija portion of her mantra at the heart chakra, my intelligence will grow by leaps and bounds, right while I'm sleeping. Then, when you awaken in the morning you will feel refreshed and full of energy and knowledge. It's that simple! Anyone had a similar experience? Yes. A lucid dream is a dream in which the sleeper is aware that he or she is dreaming. From what I've read, the phenomenon of lucid dreaming has been well established by scientific research, so its existence is well established.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query
Happy Thanksgiving, Share! And happy trails, too. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Thank you everyone on FFL for all your support, knowledge, humor and entertainment these last 2 1/2 years. And yes for all the triggerings too LOL (-: From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query On 11/17/2014 9:58 AM, Share Long wrote: Richard, I tried this last night but didn't notice anything different. Maybe cuz I didn't sit up in bed when I did it? And I forgot to do it this morning. Nonetheless, will soldier on, thanks again for posting. The technique may not work for just anyone. Apparently MMY dropped using this technique himself for some reason, but I found it quite enjoyable. People usually think thoughts just before going to sleep but quite often they are just random thinking without any direction. Until I was taught the Night Technique by Satyanand, I used another technique that I developed myself - you simply think of something positive to look forward to the next day and then slip into sleep. It works too, but not as well. There is something about the directed sound vibration than is a subtle relaxing feeling with the bija mantra - Laya Yoga while you sleep. From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... mailto:punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query On 11/15/2014 5:22 PM, s3raphita wrote: So last night I had a lucid experience while dreaming (it's happened a few times before - always involuntary as I've never bothered to follow the techniques recommended by devotees of this perception). At least I assume it was a lucid-dream experience - I suppose one could have a normal dream which included the false thought that one was lucid when in fact one wasn't (if you can follow that explanation). What's more, I woke up (for real), mused about the dream for a minute, then fell asleep again and immediately went back into the same dream landscape in the same self-conscious, lucid state. Now I'd heard that when in a lucid dream you can alter the dreamscape to suit yourself. So you might find it amusing to flip over into being a Zero pilot on a kamikaze mission and diving into the Golden Dome in Fairfield. Whatever floats your boat. Anyway, though I was lucidly self-aware that I was indeed dreaming I couldn't change the story narration unfolding before me so just left the dream to run its course while absorbing the novel experience. My question is: is there some trick to getting the dream to change to suit your whim or is it a case of practice makes perfect? Or maybe most lucid dreams are like mine? Or maybe my will power is feeble compared with my imaginative power and others have a more dominant will? The trick is to practice a Laya Yoga technique we learned from Satyanand: When you are ready for sleep you just sit up in bed and then let your bija mantra rest at the heart chakra for a few minutes. That way, the subtle currents from your Istadevata will permeate your entire being while you sleep. For example, my Istadevata is Saraswati, the Goddess of Learning, so by resting the bija portion of her mantra at the heart chakra, my intelligence will grow by leaps and bounds, right while I'm sleeping. Then, when you awaken in the morning you will feel refreshed and full of energy and knowledge. It's that simple! Anyone had a similar experience? Yes. A lucid dream is a dream in which the sleeper is aware that he or she is dreaming. From what I've read, the phenomenon of lucid dreaming has been well established by scientific research, so its existence is well established.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query
Nope, salyavin, not goodbye, just a thank you cuz it's Thanksgiving in the US.
At least I don't think it's goodbye. You never know (-:
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2014 7:15 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Thank you everyone on FFL for all your support, knowledge, humor and
entertainment these last 2 1/2 years. And yes for all the triggerings too LOL
(-:
Is this a goodbye?
From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query
On 11/17/2014 9:58 AM, Share Longwrote:
Richard,I tried this last night but didn't notice anythingdifferent. Maybe
cuz I didn't sit up in bed when I did it?And I forgot to do it this morning.
Nonetheless, willsoldier on, thanks again for posting.
The technique may not work for just anyone.Apparently MMY dropped using this
technique himself for somereason, but I found it quite enjoyable.
People usually think thoughts just before going to sleep butquite often they
are just random thinking without any direction.
Until I was taught the Night Technique by Satyanand, I usedanother technique
that I developed myself - you simply think ofsomething positive to look forward
to the next day and then slipinto sleep.
It works too, but not as well. There is something about thedirected sound
vibration than is a subtle relaxing feeling withthe bija mantra - Laya Yoga
while you sleep.
From:'Richard J. Williams'
punditster@...[FairfieldLife]FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent:Sunday, November 16, 2014 8:20 AM
Subject:Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query
On11/15/2014 5:22 PM, s3raphita wrote:
Solast night I had a lucid experiencewhile dreaming (it's happened a fewtimes
before - always involuntary asI've never bothered to follow thetechniques
recommended by devoteesof this perception). At least Iassume it was a
lucid-dreamexperience - I suppose one couldhave a normal dream which
includedthe false thought that one was lucidwhen in fact one wasn't (if you
canfollow that explanation). What'smore, I woke up (for real), musedabout the
dream for a minute, thenfell asleep again and immediatelywent back into the
same dreamlandscape in the sameself-conscious, lucid state.NowI'd heard that
when in a lucid dreamyou can alter the dreamscape tosuit yourself. So you
might find itamusing to flip over into being aZero pilot on a kamikaze mission
anddiving into the Golden Dome inFairfield. Whatever floats yourboat. Anyway,
though I was lucidlyself-aware that I was indeeddreaming I couldn't change the
storynarration unfolding before me sojust left the dream to run itscourse while
absorbing the novelexperience.My question is: is there sometrick to getting the
dream to changeto suit your whim or is it a case ofpractice makes perfect? Or
maybemost lucid dreams are like mine? Ormaybe my will power is feeblecompared
with my imaginative powerand others have a more dominantwill?
The trick is topractice a Laya Yoga technique welearned from Satyanand:
When you are ready for sleep youjust sit up in bed and then let yourbija mantra
rest at the heart chakrafor a few minutes. That way, thesubtle currents from
your Istadevatawill permeate your entire being whileyou sleep.
For example, my Istadevata isSaraswati, the Goddess of Learning, soby resting
the bija portion of hermantra at the heart chakra, myintelligence will grow by
leaps andbounds, right while I'm sleeping.
Then, when you awaken in the morningyou will feel refreshed and full ofenergy
and knowledge. It's thatsimple!
Anyone had a similarexperience?
Yes. A lucid dreamis a dream in which the sleeper isaware that he or she is
dreaming. Fromwhat I've read, the phenomenon oflucid dreaming has been
wellestablished by scientific research, soits existence is well established.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query
Welcome back! :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Nope, salyavin, not goodbye, just a thank you cuz it's Thanksgiving in the US. At least I don't think it's goodbye. You never know (-: From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2014 7:15 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Thank you everyone on FFL for all your support, knowledge, humor and entertainment these last 2 1/2 years. And yes for all the triggerings too LOL (-: Is this a goodbye? From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query On 11/17/2014 9:58 AM, Share Long wrote: Richard, I tried this last night but didn't notice anything different. Maybe cuz I didn't sit up in bed when I did it? And I forgot to do it this morning. Nonetheless, will soldier on, thanks again for posting. The technique may not work for just anyone. Apparently MMY dropped using this technique himself for some reason, but I found it quite enjoyable. People usually think thoughts just before going to sleep but quite often they are just random thinking without any direction. Until I was taught the Night Technique by Satyanand, I used another technique that I developed myself - you simply think of something positive to look forward to the next day and then slip into sleep. It works too, but not as well. There is something about the directed sound vibration than is a subtle relaxing feeling with the bija mantra - Laya Yoga while you sleep. From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... mailto:punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query On 11/15/2014 5:22 PM, s3raphita wrote: So last night I had a lucid experience while dreaming (it's happened a few times before - always involuntary as I've never bothered to follow the techniques recommended by devotees of this perception). At least I assume it was a lucid-dream experience - I suppose one could have a normal dream which included the false thought that one was lucid when in fact one wasn't (if you can follow that explanation). What's more, I woke up (for real), mused about the dream for a minute, then fell asleep again and immediately went back into the same dream landscape in the same self-conscious, lucid state. Now I'd heard that when in a lucid dream you can alter the dreamscape to suit yourself. So you might find it amusing to flip over into being a Zero pilot on a kamikaze mission and diving into the Golden Dome in Fairfield. Whatever floats your boat. Anyway, though I was lucidly self-aware that I was indeed dreaming I couldn't change the story narration unfolding before me so just left the dream to run its course while absorbing the novel experience. My question is: is there some trick to getting the dream to change to suit your whim or is it a case of practice makes perfect? Or maybe most lucid dreams are like mine? Or maybe my will power is feeble compared with my imaginative power and others have a more dominant will? The trick is to practice a Laya Yoga technique we learned from Satyanand: When you are ready for sleep you just sit up in bed and then let your bija mantra rest at the heart chakra for a few minutes. That way, the subtle currents from your Istadevata will permeate your entire being while you sleep. For example, my Istadevata is Saraswati, the Goddess of Learning, so by resting the bija portion of her mantra at the heart chakra, my intelligence will grow by leaps and bounds, right while I'm sleeping. Then, when you awaken in the morning you will feel refreshed and full of energy and knowledge. It's that simple! Anyone had a similar experience? Yes. A lucid dream is a dream in which the sleeper is aware that he or she is dreaming. From what I've read, the phenomenon of lucid dreaming has been well established by scientific research, so its existence is well established.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Nope, Salyavin, not goodbye, just a thank you cuz it's Thanksgiving in the US. At least I don't think it's goodbye. You never know (-: I sure don't! I'm presently giving thanks for the invention of mince pies, surely the high watermark of culinary achievement. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2014 7:15 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Thank you everyone on FFL for all your support, knowledge, humor and entertainment these last 2 1/2 years. And yes for all the triggerings too LOL (-: Is this a goodbye? From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query On 11/17/2014 9:58 AM, Share Long wrote: Richard, I tried this last night but didn't notice anything different. Maybe cuz I didn't sit up in bed when I did it? And I forgot to do it this morning. Nonetheless, will soldier on, thanks again for posting. The technique may not work for just anyone. Apparently MMY dropped using this technique himself for some reason, but I found it quite enjoyable. People usually think thoughts just before going to sleep but quite often they are just random thinking without any direction. Until I was taught the Night Technique by Satyanand, I used another technique that I developed myself - you simply think of something positive to look forward to the next day and then slip into sleep. It works too, but not as well. There is something about the directed sound vibration than is a subtle relaxing feeling with the bija mantra - Laya Yoga while you sleep. From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... mailto:punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query On 11/15/2014 5:22 PM, s3raphita wrote: So last night I had a lucid experience while dreaming (it's happened a few times before - always involuntary as I've never bothered to follow the techniques recommended by devotees of this perception). At least I assume it was a lucid-dream experience - I suppose one could have a normal dream which included the false thought that one was lucid when in fact one wasn't (if you can follow that explanation). What's more, I woke up (for real), mused about the dream for a minute, then fell asleep again and immediately went back into the same dream landscape in the same self-conscious, lucid state. Now I'd heard that when in a lucid dream you can alter the dreamscape to suit yourself. So you might find it amusing to flip over into being a Zero pilot on a kamikaze mission and diving into the Golden Dome in Fairfield. Whatever floats your boat. Anyway, though I was lucidly self-aware that I was indeed dreaming I couldn't change the story narration unfolding before me so just left the dream to run its course while absorbing the novel experience. My question is: is there some trick to getting the dream to change to suit your whim or is it a case of practice makes perfect? Or maybe most lucid dreams are like mine? Or maybe my will power is feeble compared with my imaginative power and others have a more dominant will? The trick is to practice a Laya Yoga technique we learned from Satyanand: When you are ready for sleep you just sit up in bed and then let your bija mantra rest at the heart chakra for a few minutes. That way, the subtle currents from your Istadevata will permeate your entire being while you sleep. For example, my Istadevata is Saraswati, the Goddess of Learning, so by resting the bija portion of her mantra at the heart chakra, my intelligence will grow by leaps and bounds, right while I'm sleeping. Then, when you awaken in the morning you will feel refreshed and full of energy and knowledge. It's that simple! Anyone had a similar experience? Yes. A lucid dream is a dream in which the sleeper is aware that he or she is dreaming. From what I've read, the phenomenon of lucid dreaming has been well established by scientific research, so its existence is well established.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query
Richard, I tried this last night but didn't notice anything different. Maybe
cuz I didn't sit up in bed when I did it? And I forgot to do it this morning.
Nonetheless, will soldier on, thanks again for posting.
From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 8:20 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query
On 11/15/2014 5:22 PM, s3raphita wrote:
So last night I had a lucid experience while dreaming (it's happened a few
times before - always involuntary as I've never bothered to follow the
techniques recommended by devotees of this perception). At least I assume it
was a lucid-dream experience - I suppose one could have a normal dream which
included the false thought that one was lucid when in fact one wasn't (if you
can follow that explanation). What's more, I woke up (for real), mused about
the dream for a minute, then fell asleep again and immediately went back into
the same dream landscape in the same self-conscious, lucid state. Now I'd heard
that when in a lucid dream you can alter the dreamscape to suit yourself. So
you might find it amusing to flip over into being a Zero pilot on a kamikaze
mission and diving into the Golden Dome in Fairfield. Whatever floats your
boat. Anyway, though I was lucidly self-aware that I was indeed dreaming I
couldn't change the story narration unfolding before me so just left the dream
to run its course while absorbing the novel experience. My question is: is
there some trick to getting the dream to change to suit your whim or is it a
case of practice makes perfect? Or maybe most lucid dreams are like mine? Or
maybe my will power is feeble compared with my imaginative power and others
have a more dominant will?
The trick is to practice a Laya Yoga technique we learned from Satyanand:
When you are ready for sleep you just sit up in bed and then let your bija
mantra rest at the heart chakra for a few minutes. That way, the subtle
currents from your Istadevata will permeate your entire being while you sleep.
For example, my Istadevata is Saraswati, the Goddess of Learning, so by
resting the bija portion of her mantra at the heart chakra, my intelligence
will grow by leaps and bounds, right while I'm sleeping.
Then, when you awaken in the morning you will feel refreshed and full of
energy and knowledge. It's that simple!
Anyone had a similar experience?
Yes. A lucid dream is a dream in which the sleeper is aware that he or she is
dreaming. From what I've read, the phenomenon of lucid dreaming has been well
established by scientific research, so its existence is well established.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query
On 11/17/2014 9:58 AM, Share Long wrote: Richard, I tried this last night but didn't notice anything different. Maybe cuz I didn't sit up in bed when I did it? And I forgot to do it this morning. Nonetheless, will soldier on, thanks again for posting. /The technique may not work for just anyone. Apparently MMY dropped using this technique himself for some reason, but I found it quite enjoyable. People usually think thoughts just before going to sleep but quite often they are just random thinking without any direction. Until I was taught the Night Technique by Satyanand, I used another technique that I developed myself - you simply think of something positive to look forward to the next day and then slip into sleep. It works too, but not as well. There is something about the directed sound vibration than is a subtle relaxing feeling with the bija mantra - Laya Yoga while you sleep./ *From:* 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, November 16, 2014 8:20 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query On 11/15/2014 5:22 PM, s3raphita wrote: So last night I had a lucid experience while dreaming (it's happened a few times before - always involuntary as I've never bothered to follow the techniques recommended by devotees of this perception). At least I assume it was a lucid-dream experience - I suppose one could have a normal dream which included the false thought that one was lucid when in fact one wasn't (if you can follow that explanation). What's more, I woke up (for real), mused about the dream for a minute, then fell asleep again and immediately went back into the same dream landscape in the same self-conscious, lucid state. Now I'd heard that when in a lucid dream you can alter the dreamscape to suit yourself. So you might find it amusing to flip over into being a Zero pilot on a kamikaze mission and diving into the Golden Dome in Fairfield. Whatever floats your boat. Anyway, though I was lucidly self-aware that I was indeed dreaming I couldn't change the story narration unfolding before me so just left the dream to run its course while absorbing the novel experience. My question is: is there some trick to getting the dream to change to suit your whim or is it a case of practice makes perfect? Or maybe most lucid dreams are like mine? Or maybe my will power is feeble compared with my imaginative power and others have a more dominant will? /The trick is to practice a Laya Yoga technique we learned from Satyanand: // // //When you are ready for sleep you just sit up in bed and then let your bija mantra rest at the heart chakra for a few minutes. That way, the subtle currents from your Istadevata will permeate your entire being while you sleep. For example, my Istadevata is Saraswati, the Goddess of Learning, so by resting the bija portion of her mantra at the heart chakra, my intelligence will grow by leaps and bounds, right while I'm sleeping. Then, when you awaken in the morning you will feel refreshed and full of energy and knowledge. It's that simple!/ Anyone had a similar experience? /Yes. A lucid dream is a dream in which the sleeper is aware that he or she is dreaming. From what I've read, the phenomenon of lucid dreaming has been well established by scientific research, so its existence is well established. /
Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query
On 11/15/2014 5:22 PM, s3raphita wrote: So last night I had a lucid experience while dreaming (it's happened a few times before - always involuntary as I've never bothered to follow the techniques recommended by devotees of this perception). At least I assume it was a lucid-dream experience - I suppose one could have a normal dream which included the false thought that one was lucid when in fact one wasn't (if you can follow that explanation). What's more, I woke up (for real), mused about the dream for a minute, then fell asleep again and immediately went back into the same dream landscape in the same self-conscious, lucid state. Now I'd heard that when in a lucid dream you can alter the dreamscape to suit yourself. So you might find it amusing to flip over into being a Zero pilot on a kamikaze mission and diving into the Golden Dome in Fairfield. Whatever floats your boat. Anyway, though I was lucidly self-aware that I was indeed dreaming I couldn't change the story narration unfolding before me so just left the dream to run its course while absorbing the novel experience. My question is: is there some trick to getting the dream to change to suit your whim or is it a case of practice makes perfect? Or maybe most lucid dreams are like mine? Or maybe my will power is feeble compared with my imaginative power and others have a more dominant will? /The trick is to practice a Laya Yoga technique we learned from Satyanand: // // //When you are ready for sleep you just sit up in bed and then let your bija mantra rest at the heart chakra for a few minutes. That way, the subtle currents from your Istadevata will permeate your entire being while you sleep. For example, my Istadevata is Saraswati, the Goddess of Learning, so by resting the bija portion of her mantra at the heart chakra, my intelligence will grow by leaps and bounds, right while I'm sleeping. Then, when you awaken in the morning you will feel refreshed and full of energy and knowledge. It's that simple!/ Anyone had a similar experience? /Yes. A lucid dream is a dream in which the sleeper is aware that he or she is dreaming. From what I've read, the phenomenon of lucid dreaming has been well established by scientific research, so its existence is well established. /
Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query
Thanks, Richard, I'm gonna try this tonight...
From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 8:20 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query
On 11/15/2014 5:22 PM, s3raphita wrote:
So last night I had a lucid experience while dreaming (it's happened a few
times before - always involuntary as I've never bothered to follow the
techniques recommended by devotees of this perception). At least I assume it
was a lucid-dream experience - I suppose one could have a normal dream which
included the false thought that one was lucid when in fact one wasn't (if you
can follow that explanation). What's more, I woke up (for real), mused about
the dream for a minute, then fell asleep again and immediately went back into
the same dream landscape in the same self-conscious, lucid state. Now I'd heard
that when in a lucid dream you can alter the dreamscape to suit yourself. So
you might find it amusing to flip over into being a Zero pilot on a kamikaze
mission and diving into the Golden Dome in Fairfield. Whatever floats your
boat. Anyway, though I was lucidly self-aware that I was indeed dreaming I
couldn't change the story narration unfolding before me so just left the dream
to run its course while absorbing the novel experience. My question is: is
there some trick to getting the dream to change to suit your whim or is it a
case of practice makes perfect? Or maybe most lucid dreams are like mine? Or
maybe my will power is feeble compared with my imaginative power and others
have a more dominant will?
The trick is to practice a Laya Yoga technique we learned from Satyanand:
When you are ready for sleep you just sit up in bed and then let your bija
mantra rest at the heart chakra for a few minutes. That way, the subtle
currents from your Istadevata will permeate your entire being while you sleep.
For example, my Istadevata is Saraswati, the Goddess of Learning, so by
resting the bija portion of her mantra at the heart chakra, my intelligence
will grow by leaps and bounds, right while I'm sleeping.
Then, when you awaken in the morning you will feel refreshed and full of
energy and knowledge. It's that simple!
Anyone had a similar experience?
Yes. A lucid dream is a dream in which the sleeper is aware that he or she is
dreaming. From what I've read, the phenomenon of lucid dreaming has been well
established by scientific research, so its existence is well established.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query
On 11/16/2014 10:01 AM, Share Long wrote: Thanks, Richard, I'm gonna try this tonight... /Satyanand told us that it was a min-meditation for sleep at night. We've been using this technique since 1968 and it works. ///You just set it, and forget it. /I've also used almost the same Laya Yoga technique when awakening: When you wake up, but before you actually get up, you just remember the bija portion of your mantra and repeat it a few times mentally to yourself. Then, you get up and go about your business including your regular TM 2 x 20.// // / *From:* 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, November 16, 2014 8:20 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query On 11/15/2014 5:22 PM, s3raphita wrote: So last night I had a lucid experience while dreaming (it's happened a few times before - always involuntary as I've never bothered to follow the techniques recommended by devotees of this perception). At least I assume it was a lucid-dream experience - I suppose one could have a normal dream which included the false thought that one was lucid when in fact one wasn't (if you can follow that explanation). What's more, I woke up (for real), mused about the dream for a minute, then fell asleep again and immediately went back into the same dream landscape in the same self-conscious, lucid state. Now I'd heard that when in a lucid dream you can alter the dreamscape to suit yourself. So you might find it amusing to flip over into being a Zero pilot on a kamikaze mission and diving into the Golden Dome in Fairfield. Whatever floats your boat. Anyway, though I was lucidly self-aware that I was indeed dreaming I couldn't change the story narration unfolding before me so just left the dream to run its course while absorbing the novel experience. My question is: is there some trick to getting the dream to change to suit your whim or is it a case of practice makes perfect? Or maybe most lucid dreams are like mine? Or maybe my will power is feeble compared with my imaginative power and others have a more dominant will? /The trick is to practice a Laya Yoga technique we learned from Satyanand: // // //When you are ready for sleep you just sit up in bed and then let your bija mantra rest at the heart chakra for a few minutes. That way, the subtle currents from your Istadevata will permeate your entire being while you sleep. For example, my Istadevata is Saraswati, the Goddess of Learning, so by resting the bija portion of her mantra at the heart chakra, my intelligence will grow by leaps and bounds, right while I'm sleeping. Then, when you awaken in the morning you will feel refreshed and full of energy and knowledge. It's that simple!/ Anyone had a similar experience? /Yes. A lucid dream is a dream in which the sleeper is aware that he or she is dreaming. From what I've read, the phenomenon of lucid dreaming has been well established by scientific research, so its existence is well established. /
[FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query
So last night I had a lucid experience while dreaming (it's happened a few times before - always involuntary as I've never bothered to follow the techniques recommended by devotees of this perception). At least I assume it was a lucid-dream experience - I suppose one could have a normal dream which included the false thought that one was lucid when in fact one wasn't (if you can follow that explanation). What's more, I woke up (for real), mused about the dream for a minute, then fell asleep again and immediately went back into the same dream landscape in the same self-conscious, lucid state. Now I'd heard that when in a lucid dream you can alter the dreamscape to suit yourself. So you might find it amusing to flip over into being a Zero pilot on a kamikaze mission and diving into the Golden Dome in Fairfield. Whatever floats your boat. Anyway, though I was lucidly self-aware that I was indeed dreaming I couldn't change the story narration unfolding before me so just left the dream to run its course while absorbing the novel experience. My question is: is there some trick to getting the dream to change to suit your whim or is it a case of practice makes perfect? Or maybe most lucid dreams are like mine? Or maybe my will power is feeble compared with my imaginative power and others have a more dominant will? Anyone had a similar experience?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query
Back when I was practicing Tibetan dream yoga (their version of lucid
dreaming), I would have many, many experiences similar to the one you mention
in the first paragraph. The tell was that upon waking (for real), I'd 1)
remember the dreams and waking up in them with some clarity (as opposed to
haziness that faded in a few minutes) and 2) then go back to sleep and go back
into the *same* dream.
My favorite such dream was once when I ran into some gnarly things trying to
kill me in my dream. That *rarely* happened with me -- I think I can count the
number of nightmares or bad dreams I've had in my life on the fingers of
both hands -- but this one was pretty gnarly. Man-beasts of some kind were
definitely trying to kill me, and it was *personal* (trying to assassinate
*me*, as opposed to just killing everything in sight). I was running from them
in the dream, just in survival mode because I didn't have any weapons to defend
myself, and then decided that the best way to survive was to wake up. So I did.
I found myself covered with sweat and still shaking a bit from the experience,
but it was still the middle of the night and I knew what tended to happen when
I'd go back to sleep after one of these lucid dreams, so I looked around my
room and found the fake samurai sword (real Japanese, but lacking an edge
because I used it in my Kendo classes and we tried not to kill each other
there). I grabbed it, pulled it into bed with me, went back to sleep, and
voila...found myself back in the same dream, with the same astral badasses
still trying to get me. But now I had the sword. And in the dream it was a real
sword, with a real edge. To quote W. C. Fields, I hacked my way through mounds
of flesh and awoke refreshed. :-)
I am far from the world's leading expert in lucid dreaming, and in fact don't
try to practice it any more. If it happens, it happens; if it doesn't, I don't
try to make it happen. But I do remember that the key to taking control in my
lucid dreams always started by following Carlos Castaneda's advice of finding
my hands. I'd be awake in the dream, meaning that there was a me witnessing
everything, and then have a secondary wakening and realize that I could change
things if I wanted to. So for me, what worked to enable me to want to was
lifting my own hands in front of my eyes and then focusing on them as I began
to first touch items in the dream, and then gesture at them. The gestures over
time allowed me to change their color or nature or -- as you say -- change the
entire dreamscape and go somewhere else.
From: s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 12:22 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query
So last night I had a lucid experience while dreaming (it's happened a few
times before - always involuntary as I've never bothered to follow the
techniques recommended by devotees of this perception). At least I assume it
was a lucid-dream experience - I suppose one could have a normal dream which
included the false thought that one was lucid when in fact one wasn't (if you
can follow that explanation). What's more, I woke up (for real), mused about
the dream for a minute, then fell asleep again and immediately went back into
the same dream landscape in the same self-conscious, lucid state.
Now I'd heard that when in a lucid dream you can alter the dreamscape to suit
yourself. So you might find it amusing to flip over into being a Zero pilot on
a kamikaze mission and diving into the Golden Dome in Fairfield. Whatever
floats your boat. Anyway, though I was lucidly self-aware that I was indeed
dreaming I couldn't change the story narration unfolding before me so just left
the dream to run its course while absorbing the novel experience.
My question is: is there some trick to getting the dream to change to suit your
whim or is it a case of practice makes perfect? Or maybe most lucid dreams are
like mine? Or maybe my will power is feeble compared with my imaginative power
and others have a more dominant will?
Anyone had a similar experience?
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