Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Blah blah and blah blah of the blah-blah? (was Re: NSR and BM of the M-Ch?)
Yo, 7th, Xeno is established in CC, seriously - It makes him appear overly logical, and kind of cold and remote. He also thinks he has reached the end of his development, the unremitting light of the soul, in CC, but he has a long way to go. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote: WTF? Xeno, do you have a burr up your butt? Chill out a little. You asked if someone had an alternative for treating your skin condition. Share made friendly suggestion. What's next, you gonna try to get her cited for practicing medicine without a license? Lighten up dude! It's just a chat room! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote: Share, making a medical recommendation on the basis of what I said is rather risky don't you think? I did not mention the condition, just the chemical used to treat it, and it is used for a number of purposes. From a medical point of view, aloe vera has not been researched enough or well enough to come to any medically useful conclusions, though the cosmetic industry seems to have made it one of its poster child products. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Xeno, aloe vera gel... On Sunday, January 26, 2014 11:19 AM, anartaxius@... anartaxius@... wrote: Buck, I agree with Turq. Card's posts are in their own little world. Most of them are incomprehensible to me, including the request this thread is about. Card actually reduced the jargon a bit by putting a portion of his request in a slightly less technical form parenthetically, but it still did not help. Who else here transliterates Sanskrit or has such a grasp of language? Usually I have no way to even begin to respond to one of his posts. Some additional explanation plain words would be a big help as to what he is getting at. And Buck, your posts are pretty jargon laden as well, besides being almost completely spam. Tell us what you think in your own words. Farmers are not noted for being abstract philosophers, they speak plain and simple. Do you post all that stuff so you look good to the thought police over there at MUM? On occasion you have posted some really interesting things that seem to represent what you think and feel that come across as natural, but most of the time, you do not do this, you sound more like a Jehovah's Witness proffering pre-canned quotes from Watchtower Magazine, so instead of making a worthwhile contribution, you are largely ignored. It's OK to quote things, but then tell us what you think about that, free of jargon, what it means to you, and perhaps how you would explain it to someone who never ever heard of TM or meditation in general. You do not learn what you are saying until you can spontaneously say it in your own words, and understand it on your own terms. Then, you have to learn how to say it to someone who has not gone through that process. It is really easy to fail at this. I have a slight skin condition, so right now I think I will go an apply a layer of (CH2)7(CO2H)2 to the affected area so that the proximal and distal surfaces of the application are minimised. Can anyone here recommend an alternative to this? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: My point, Buck, since you seem to have missed it, is that a number of people -- especially Fairfielders -- have been living in a Jargon Bubble for so long that they no longer realize when they are speaking jargon. They have lost the art -- and, I would suggest, even the desire -- to give intro lectures and communicate with anyone who *doesn't* speak the same jargon they do. That's fine, if all you want to do in life is the thing you've adopted as your schtick here -- preach to the already converted. That's fine if you're comfortable with being an elitist and don't really want to ever speak to anyone who *isn't* already an elitist, and your kind of elitist. It's not so fine if you were ever trying to actually communicate to the occasional lurker who might appear here, wanting to learn a little something about TM, or even spiritual practice in general. But I guess that's not what you're trying to do, right? You'd prefer to keep writing jargon-filled stuff that gets zero replies. Anyone who wants to reply has to come up to your level and stop being so ignorant. Did I get your position on all of this correctly? How long has it been since you ever *gave* an intro lecture, Buck, or even wanted to? I know it's difficult to imagine, interacting with the unwashed masses of the ignorant and all, all those who just aren't as good as you are. I'm just pointing out that pretty much NO ONE responds to your rants as they are. Do you think that maybe...just perhaps...the way you're writing them might have something to do with that? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Om Dear Turq, I am concerned about you.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Blah blah and blah blah of the blah-blah? (was Re: NSR and BM of the M-Ch?)
dear Xeno, yes taking risks, living on the edge, etc. And all just from participating in the Funny Farm Lounge! BTW, I have about zero contact with the cosmetics industry. I get my aloe vera gel in a health food store and have found it to be beneficial for a number of skin ailments. It pacifies pitta too, just in case that's of any use. I'm glad that you found a product with adequate scientific research so that you feel safe using it. Another arctic vortex over night. I have various faucets dripping... On Sunday, January 26, 2014 8:54 PM, anartax...@yahoo.com anartax...@yahoo.com wrote: Share, making a medical recommendation on the basis of what I said is rather risky don't you think? I did not mention the condition, just the chemical used to treat it, and it is used for a number of purposes. From a medical point of view, aloe vera has not been researched enough or well enough to come to any medically useful conclusions, though the cosmetic industry seems to have made it one of its poster child products. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Xeno, aloe vera gel... On Sunday, January 26, 2014 11:19 AM, anartaxius@... anartaxius@... wrote: Buck, I agree with Turq. Card's posts are in their own little world. Most of them are incomprehensible to me, including the request this thread is about. Card actually reduced the jargon a bit by putting a portion of his request in a slightly less technical form parenthetically, but it still did not help. Who else here transliterates Sanskrit or has such a grasp of language? Usually I have no way to even begin to respond to one of his posts. Some additional explanation plain words would be a big help as to what he is getting at. And Buck, your posts are pretty jargon laden as well, besides being almost completely spam. Tell us what you think in your own words. Farmers are not noted for being abstract philosophers, they speak plain and simple. Do you post all that stuff so you look good to the thought police over there at MUM? On occasion you have posted some really interesting things that seem to represent what you think and feel that come across as natural, but most of the time, you do not do this, you sound more like a Jehovah's Witness proffering pre-canned quotes from Watchtower Magazine, so instead of making a worthwhile contribution, you are largely ignored. It's OK to quote things, but then tell us what you think about that, free of jargon, what it means to you, and perhaps how you would explain it to someone who never ever heard of TM or meditation in general. You do not learn what you are saying until you can spontaneously say it in your own words, and understand it on your own terms. Then, you have to learn how to say it to someone who has not gone through that process. It is really easy to fail at this. I have a slight skin condition, so right now I think I will go an apply a layer of (CH2)7(CO2H)2 to the affected area so that the proximal and distal surfaces of the application are minimised. Can anyone here recommend an alternative to this? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: My point, Buck, since you seem to have missed it, is that a number of people -- especially Fairfielders -- have been living in a Jargon Bubble for so long that they no longer realize when they are speaking jargon. They have lost the art -- and, I would suggest, even the desire -- to give intro lectures and communicate with anyone who *doesn't* speak the same jargon they do. That's fine, if all you want to do in life is the thing you've adopted as your schtick here -- preach to the already converted. That's fine if you're comfortable with being an elitist and don't really want to ever speak to anyone who *isn't* already an elitist, and your kind of elitist. It's not so fine if you were ever trying to actually communicate to the occasional lurker who might appear here, wanting to learn a little something about TM, or even spiritual practice in general. But I guess that's not what you're trying to do, right? You'd prefer to keep writing jargon-filled stuff that gets zero replies. Anyone who wants to reply has to come up to your level and stop being so ignorant. Did I get your position on all of this correctly? How long has it been since you ever *gave* an intro lecture, Buck, or even wanted to? I know it's difficult to imagine, interacting with the unwashed masses of the ignorant and all, all those who just aren't as good as you are. I'm just pointing out that pretty much NO ONE responds to your rants as they are. Do you think that maybe...just perhaps...the way you're writing them might have something to do with that? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Om Dear Turq, I am concerned about you. It seems evident you are becoming somewhat obsessed and and even hung-up on this
[FairfieldLife] RE: Blah blah and blah blah of the blah-blah? (was Re: NSR and BM of the M-Ch?)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: Yo, 7th, Xeno is established in CC, seriously - It makes him appear overly logical, and kind of cold and remote. He also thinks he has reached the end of his development, the unremitting light of the soul, in CC, but he has a long way to go. And *I* don't. That's the only important thing to remember -- how incredibly special *I* am, and how non-special all these other peons who are less evolved than *I* am are. He's *only* in CC, and *I*...not to be immodest or anything...am just so, So, SO much *more* than that. Any state of consciousness you can name, *I* will have been there done that long ago, the day after I first heard about it. Logic? *I* am WAY past logic. That's for losers. And it's only your faulty perception that *I* am somewhat cold and remote when it comes to other people *I* look down on; they only believe that because they're so jealous of how special *I* am. Poor Xeno, after all, still has a long way to go. And *I* don't. *I* have arrived at the pinnacle of what it is to be a human being, and enlightened. That's why I'm so compassionate towards these puny-ass poseurs who aren't...uh...well...*ME*. Again, did I manage to synopsize what you were really trying to say, Jimbo? :-) All you managed to do was rehash something you think someone said but didn't and in a way that makes you look like a warmonger and troublemaker. Your mission is never to make peace or strive to create harmony between others but to sow the seeds of argument and misunderstanding. That certainly is the pinnacle of ignorance and small ego, Bawwy. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@ wrote: WTF? Xeno, do you have a burr up your butt? Chill out a little. You asked if someone had an alternative for treating your skin condition. Share made friendly suggestion. What's next, you gonna try to get her cited for practicing medicine without a license? Lighten up dude! It's just a chat room! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@ wrote: Share, making a medical recommendation on the basis of what I said is rather risky don't you think? I did not mention the condition, just the chemical used to treat it, and it is used for a number of purposes. From a medical point of view, aloe vera has not been researched enough or well enough to come to any medically useful conclusions, though the cosmetic industry seems to have made it one of its poster child products. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@ wrote: Xeno, aloe vera gel... On Sunday, January 26, 2014 11:19 AM, anartaxius@ anartaxius@ wrote: Buck, I agree with Turq. Card's posts are in their own little world. Most of them are incomprehensible to me, including the request this thread is about. Card actually reduced the jargon a bit by putting a portion of his request in a slightly less technical form parenthetically, but it still did not help. Who else here transliterates Sanskrit or has such a grasp of language? Usually I have no way to even begin to respond to one of his posts. Some additional explanation plain words would be a big help as to what he is getting at. And Buck, your posts are pretty jargon laden as well, besides being almost completely spam. Tell us what you think in your own words. Farmers are not noted for being abstract philosophers, they speak plain and simple. Do you post all that stuff so you look good to the thought police over there at MUM? On occasion you have posted some really interesting things that seem to represent what you think and feel that come across as natural, but most of the time, you do not do this, you sound more like a Jehovah's Witness proffering pre-canned quotes from Watchtower Magazine, so instead of making a worthwhile contribution, you are largely ignored. It's OK to quote things, but then tell us what you think about that, free of jargon, what it means to you, and perhaps how you would explain it to someone who never ever heard of TM or meditation in general. You do not learn what you are saying until you can spontaneously say it in your own words, and understand it on your own terms. Then, you have to learn how to say it to someone who has not gone through that process. It is really easy to fail at this. I have a slight skin condition, so right now I think I will go an apply a layer of (CH2)7(CO2H)2 to the affected area so that the proximal and distal surfaces of the application are minimised. Can anyone here recommend an alternative to this? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@ wrote: My point, Buck, since you seem to have missed it, is that a number of people -- especially Fairfielders -- have been living in a Jargon Bubble for so long that they no longer realize when they are speaking jargon.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Blah blah and blah blah of the blah-blah? (was Re: NSR and BM of the M-Ch?)
How could a 'synopsis' be several times longer than the original statement? Not exactly summing things up. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: Yo, 7th, Xeno is established in CC, seriously - It makes him appear overly logical, and kind of cold and remote. He also thinks he has reached the end of his development, the unremitting light of the soul, in CC, but he has a long way to go. And *I* don't. That's the only important thing to remember -- how incredibly special *I* am, and how non-special all these other peons who are less evolved than *I* am are. He's *only* in CC, and *I*...not to be immodest or anything...am just so, So, SO much *more* than that. Any state of consciousness you can name, *I* will have been there done that long ago, the day after I first heard about it. Logic? *I* am WAY past logic. That's for losers. And it's only your faulty perception that *I* am somewhat cold and remote when it comes to other people *I* look down on; they only believe that because they're so jealous of how special *I* am. Poor Xeno, after all, still has a long way to go. And *I* don't. *I* have arrived at the pinnacle of what it is to be a human being, and enlightened. That's why I'm so compassionate towards these puny-ass poseurs who aren't...uh...well...*ME*. Again, did I manage to synopsize what you were really trying to say, Jimbo? :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@ wrote: WTF? Xeno, do you have a burr up your butt? Chill out a little. You asked if someone had an alternative for treating your skin condition. Share made friendly suggestion. What's next, you gonna try to get her cited for practicing medicine without a license? Lighten up dude! It's just a chat room! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@ wrote: Share, making a medical recommendation on the basis of what I said is rather risky don't you think? I did not mention the condition, just the chemical used to treat it, and it is used for a number of purposes. From a medical point of view, aloe vera has not been researched enough or well enough to come to any medically useful conclusions, though the cosmetic industry seems to have made it one of its poster child products. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@ wrote: Xeno, aloe vera gel... On Sunday, January 26, 2014 11:19 AM, anartaxius@ anartaxius@ wrote: Buck, I agree with Turq. Card's posts are in their own little world. Most of them are incomprehensible to me, including the request this thread is about. Card actually reduced the jargon a bit by putting a portion of his request in a slightly less technical form parenthetically, but it still did not help. Who else here transliterates Sanskrit or has such a grasp of language? Usually I have no way to even begin to respond to one of his posts. Some additional explanation plain words would be a big help as to what he is getting at. And Buck, your posts are pretty jargon laden as well, besides being almost completely spam. Tell us what you think in your own words. Farmers are not noted for being abstract philosophers, they speak plain and simple. Do you post all that stuff so you look good to the thought police over there at MUM? On occasion you have posted some really interesting things that seem to represent what you think and feel that come across as natural, but most of the time, you do not do this, you sound more like a Jehovah's Witness proffering pre-canned quotes from Watchtower Magazine, so instead of making a worthwhile contribution, you are largely ignored. It's OK to quote things, but then tell us what you think about that, free of jargon, what it means to you, and perhaps how you would explain it to someone who never ever heard of TM or meditation in general. You do not learn what you are saying until you can spontaneously say it in your own words, and understand it on your own terms. Then, you have to learn how to say it to someone who has not gone through that process. It is really easy to fail at this. I have a slight skin condition, so right now I think I will go an apply a layer of (CH2)7(CO2H)2 to the affected area so that the proximal and distal surfaces of the application are minimised. Can anyone here recommend an alternative to this? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@ wrote: My point, Buck, since you seem to have missed it, is that a number of people -- especially Fairfielders -- have been living in a Jargon Bubble for so long that they no longer realize when they are speaking jargon. They have lost the art -- and, I would suggest, even the desire -- to give intro lectures and communicate with anyone who *doesn't* speak the same jargon they do. That's fine, if all you want to do in life is the thing you've
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Blah blah and blah blah of the blah-blah? (was Re: NSR and BM of the M-Ch?)
On 1/26/2014 11:19 AM, anartax...@yahoo.com wrote: Card's posts are in their own little world. You are supposed to read the comments already posted BEFORE you post your own - we've been talking about stress relief for years on Google Groups and Yahoo Groups. It's starting to look like Turq is just out of the spiritual loop and caught up in the secular world. He often uses the spiritual jargon - spiritual without in the least seeming to understand what it is he's commenting on. Go figure. NSRNatural Stress Relief (meditation technique) http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/NSR
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Blah blah and blah blah of the blah-blah? (was Re: NSR and BM of the M-Ch?)
Richard, I thought Carde was using NSR to stand for Noise to Signal Ratio as he was talking about sound value of beej mantras. On Monday, January 27, 2014 9:46 AM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: On 1/26/2014 11:19 AM, anartax...@yahoo.com wrote: Card's posts are in their own little world. You are supposed to read the comments already posted BEFORE you post your own - we've been talking about stress relief for years on Google Groups and Yahoo Groups. It's starting to look like Turq is just out of the spiritual loop and caught up in the secular world. He often uses the spiritual jargon - spiritual without in the least seeming to understand what it is he's commenting on. Go figure. NSRNatural Stress Relief (meditation technique) http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/NSR
[FairfieldLife] RE: Blah blah and blah blah of the blah-blah? (was Re: NSR and BM of the M-Ch?)
Om Dear Turq, I am concerned about you. It seems evident you are becoming somewhat obsessed and and even hung-up on this particular thought form around jargon that you would seek to suppress people's writing use of jargon around here on a list that is so manifestly technical about spirituality. Card was looking for an answer and anyone who knows what NSR and biija mantras are and could possibly answer the question will do so. People who are ignorant of NSR and biija mantras are always free to improve themselves with Google searches further.Ignorant people here certainly are free to take and exercise some initiative themselves beside just lurking around spiritual discussions like these. That would be called, spiritual improvement. Card does not have to bring it down to your or anyone else's level every time he posts something about his research on FairfieldLife. I always welcome reading his posts. They tend to be very spiritual. Card alone and free on this, he does not deserve to be publicly humiliated or bullied around here. That seems really unkind. He always contributes quite a lot to the spiritual nature of FFL. I hope he stays on with us on FFL with his extremely high level of spiritual technicality. His is always refreshing as it happens here. That is my considered opinion based on experience, -Buck in the Dome Cardemaister wrote: Anyone know if NSR uses exclusively the biija-mantra of the muulaadhaara-cakra (beej mantra of the muladharachakra)? Turqoiseb writes: I know you're talking to a select group of language and TM nerds, Card, but given the discussions about jargon and buzzwords recently, I can't help translating your question into Far Side-speak the way some of us hear it. :-) Anyone know if blah blah uses exclusively the blah blah of the blah blah (blah blah of the blah blah)?
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Blah blah and blah blah of the blah-blah? (was Re: NSR and BM of the M-Ch?)
Buck, I also enjoy Carde's posts though I don't understand most of them. He seems very independent and thus likely to continue here, yay, no matter how anyone responds to his stuff. On Sunday, January 26, 2014 10:12 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Om Dear Turq, I am concerned about you. It seems evident you are becoming somewhat obsessed and and even hung-up on this particular thought form around jargon that you would seek to suppress people's writing use of jargon around here on a list that is so manifestly technical about spirituality. Card was looking for an answer and anyone who knows what NSR and biija mantras are and could possibly answer the question will do so. People who are ignorant of NSR and biija mantras are always free to improve themselves with Google searches further. Ignorant people here certainly are free to take and exercise some initiative themselves beside just lurking around spiritual discussions like these. That would be called, spiritual improvement. Card does not have to bring it down to your or anyone else's level every time he posts something about his research on FairfieldLife. I always welcome reading his posts. They tend to be very spiritual. Card alone and free on this, he does not deserve to be publicly humiliated or bullied around here. That seems really unkind. He always contributes quite a lot to the spiritual nature of FFL. I hope he stays on with us on FFL with his extremely high level of spiritual technicality. His is always refreshing as it happens here. That is my considered opinion based on experience, -Buck in the Dome Cardemaister wrote: Anyone know if NSR uses exclusively the biija-mantra of the muulaadhaara-cakra (beej mantra of the muladharachakra)? Turqoiseb writes: I know you're talking to a select group of language and TM nerds, Card, but given the discussions about jargon and buzzwords recently, I can't help translating your question into Far Side-speak the way some of us hear it. :-) Anyone know if blah blah uses exclusively the blah blah of the blah blah (blah blah of the blah blah)?
[FairfieldLife] RE: Blah blah and blah blah of the blah-blah? (was Re: NSR and BM of the M-Ch?)
Here's a whole bunch more for NSR: http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/NSR http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/NSR See any that ring a bell? We've actually had quite a bit of discussion about NSR, so one could just do a search of the FFL archive and find it quickly. Om Dear Turq, I am concerned about you. It seems evident you are becoming somewhat obsessed and and even hung-up on this particular thought form around jargon that you would seek to suppress people's writing use of jargon around here on a list that is so manifestly technical about spirituality. Don't be an ass. I am not trying to suppress the use of jargon. I'm trying to get through to people who *no longer realizing they're using it*, and that doing so is *excluding* people from what they're trying to say. Card was looking for an answer and anyone who knows what NSR and biija mantras are and could possibly answer the question will do so. And anyone who doesn't (I have no idea what NSR means) are excluded. People who are ignorant of NSR and biija mantras are always free to improve themselves with Google searches further. A Google search for NSR returns -- in order -- National Skills Registry, National Scouting Report, and National Swine Report. Which do you think Card was referring to?
[FairfieldLife] RE: Blah blah and blah blah of the blah-blah? (was Re: NSR and BM of the M-Ch?)
This is, um, nonsense. Most of those who participate here already know the jargon, and if anyone sees a term they don't understand, they can always ask, or try Google. There's zero reason to expect all posts to be written so a lurker who knows nothing about TM can understand them instantly. One increasingly suspects that Barry's anti-jargon crusade is not about jargon but about giving himself opportunities to stalk and demonize people he doesn't like. (Same with his spiritual experiences crusade.) It's not so fine if you were ever trying to actually communicate to the occasional lurker who might appear here, wanting to learn a little something about TM, or even spiritual practice in general. But I guess that's not what you're trying to do, right? You'd prefer to keep writing jargon-filled stuff that gets zero replies. Anyone who wants to reply has to come up to your level and stop being so ignorant. Did I get your position on all of this correctly? How long has it been since you ever *gave* an intro lecture, Buck, or even wanted to? I know it's difficult to imagine, interacting with the unwashed masses of the ignorant and all, all those who just aren't as good as you are. I'm just pointing out that pretty much NO ONE responds to your rants as they are. Do you think that maybe...just perhaps...the way you're writing them might have something to do with that?
[FairfieldLife] RE: Blah blah and blah blah of the blah-blah? (was Re: NSR and BM of the M-Ch?)
Buck, I agree with Turq. Card's posts are in their own little world. Most of them are incomprehensible to me, including the request this thread is about. Card actually reduced the jargon a bit by putting a portion of his request in a slightly less technical form parenthetically, but it still did not help. Who else here transliterates Sanskrit or has such a grasp of language? Usually I have no way to even begin to respond to one of his posts. Some additional explanation plain words would be a big help as to what he is getting at. And Buck, your posts are pretty jargon laden as well, besides being almost completely spam. Tell us what you think in your own words. Farmers are not noted for being abstract philosophers, they speak plain and simple. Do you post all that stuff so you look good to the thought police over there at MUM? On occasion you have posted some really interesting things that seem to represent what you think and feel that come across as natural, but most of the time, you do not do this, you sound more like a Jehovah's Witness proffering pre-canned quotes from Watchtower Magazine, so instead of making a worthwhile contribution, you are largely ignored. It's OK to quote things, but then tell us what you think about that, free of jargon, what it means to you, and perhaps how you would explain it to someone who never ever heard of TM or meditation in general. You do not learn what you are saying until you can spontaneously say it in your own words, and understand it on your own terms. Then, you have to learn how to say it to someone who has not gone through that process. It is really easy to fail at this. I have a slight skin condition, so right now I think I will go an apply a layer of (CH2)7(CO2H)2 to the affected area so that the proximal and distal surfaces of the application are minimised. Can anyone here recommend an alternative to this? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: My point, Buck, since you seem to have missed it, is that a number of people -- especially Fairfielders -- have been living in a Jargon Bubble for so long that they no longer realize when they are speaking jargon. They have lost the art -- and, I would suggest, even the desire -- to give intro lectures and communicate with anyone who *doesn't* speak the same jargon they do. That's fine, if all you want to do in life is the thing you've adopted as your schtick here -- preach to the already converted. That's fine if you're comfortable with being an elitist and don't really want to ever speak to anyone who *isn't* already an elitist, and your kind of elitist. It's not so fine if you were ever trying to actually communicate to the occasional lurker who might appear here, wanting to learn a little something about TM, or even spiritual practice in general. But I guess that's not what you're trying to do, right? You'd prefer to keep writing jargon-filled stuff that gets zero replies. Anyone who wants to reply has to come up to your level and stop being so ignorant. Did I get your position on all of this correctly? How long has it been since you ever *gave* an intro lecture, Buck, or even wanted to? I know it's difficult to imagine, interacting with the unwashed masses of the ignorant and all, all those who just aren't as good as you are. I'm just pointing out that pretty much NO ONE responds to your rants as they are. Do you think that maybe...just perhaps...the way you're writing them might have something to do with that? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Om Dear Turq, I am concerned about you. It seems evident you are becoming somewhat obsessed and and even hung-up on this particular thought form around jargon that you would seek to suppress people's writing use of jargon around here on a list that is so manifestly technical about spirituality. Don't be an ass. I am not trying to suppress the use of jargon. I'm trying to get through to people who *no longer realizing they're using it*, and that doing so is *excluding* people from what they're trying to say. Card was looking for an answer and anyone who knows what NSR and biija mantras are and could possibly answer the question will do so. And anyone who doesn't (I have no idea what NSR means) are excluded. People who are ignorant of NSR and biija mantras are always free to improve themselves with Google searches further. A Google search for NSR returns -- in order -- National Skills Registry, National Scouting Report, and National Swine Report. Which do you think Card was referring to?
[FairfieldLife] RE: Blah blah and blah blah of the blah-blah? (was Re: NSR and BM of the M-Ch?)
I also find Doctordumb's assertion that they should just ask if they don't understand things to have a subtle and not entirely pleasant intent. You can cherry pick until you are blue in the face, Barry. The fact remains that the person I was addressing was lurking on the BATGAP forum, and rather than ask a question, he was making assumptions, which he then posted, on here. This has nothing to do with language that is difficult to understand, and much more with your emotional instability and immaturity. But, please, don't let that stop you.:-) Regards, Doctordumbass
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Blah blah and blah blah of the blah-blah? (was Re: NSR and BM of the M-Ch?)
Xeno, aloe vera gel... On Sunday, January 26, 2014 11:19 AM, anartax...@yahoo.com anartax...@yahoo.com wrote: Buck, I agree with Turq. Card's posts are in their own little world. Most of them are incomprehensible to me, including the request this thread is about. Card actually reduced the jargon a bit by putting a portion of his request in a slightly less technical form parenthetically, but it still did not help. Who else here transliterates Sanskrit or has such a grasp of language? Usually I have no way to even begin to respond to one of his posts. Some additional explanation plain words would be a big help as to what he is getting at. And Buck, your posts are pretty jargon laden as well, besides being almost completely spam. Tell us what you think in your own words. Farmers are not noted for being abstract philosophers, they speak plain and simple. Do you post all that stuff so you look good to the thought police over there at MUM? On occasion you have posted some really interesting things that seem to represent what you think and feel that come across as natural, but most of the time, you do not do this, you sound more like a Jehovah's Witness proffering pre-canned quotes from Watchtower Magazine, so instead of making a worthwhile contribution, you are largely ignored. It's OK to quote things, but then tell us what you think about that, free of jargon, what it means to you, and perhaps how you would explain it to someone who never ever heard of TM or meditation in general. You do not learn what you are saying until you can spontaneously say it in your own words, and understand it on your own terms. Then, you have to learn how to say it to someone who has not gone through that process. It is really easy to fail at this. I have a slight skin condition, so right now I think I will go an apply a layer of (CH2)7(CO2H)2 to the affected area so that the proximal and distal surfaces of the application are minimised. Can anyone here recommend an alternative to this? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: My point, Buck, since you seem to have missed it, is that a number of people -- especially Fairfielders -- have been living in a Jargon Bubble for so long that they no longer realize when they are speaking jargon. They have lost the art -- and, I would suggest, even the desire -- to give intro lectures and communicate with anyone who *doesn't* speak the same jargon they do. That's fine, if all you want to do in life is the thing you've adopted as your schtick here -- preach to the already converted. That's fine if you're comfortable with being an elitist and don't really want to ever speak to anyone who *isn't* already an elitist, and your kind of elitist. It's not so fine if you were ever trying to actually communicate to the occasional lurker who might appear here, wanting to learn a little something about TM, or even spiritual practice in general. But I guess that's not what you're trying to do, right? You'd prefer to keep writing jargon-filled stuff that gets zero replies. Anyone who wants to reply has to come up to your level and stop being so ignorant. Did I get your position on all of this correctly? How long has it been since you ever *gave* an intro lecture, Buck, or even wanted to? I know it's difficult to imagine, interacting with the unwashed masses of the ignorant and all, all those who just aren't as good as you are. I'm just pointing out that pretty much NO ONE responds to your rants as they are. Do you think that maybe...just perhaps...the way you're writing them might have something to do with that? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Om Dear Turq, I am concerned about you. It seems evident you are becoming somewhat obsessed and and even hung-up on this particular thought form around jargon that you would seek to suppress people's writing use of jargon around here on a list that is so manifestly technical about spirituality. Don't be an ass. I am not trying to suppress the use of jargon. I'm trying to get through to people who *no longer realizing they're using it*, and that doing so is *excluding* people from what they're trying to say. Card was looking for an answer and anyone who knows what NSR and biija mantras are and could possibly answer the question will do so. And anyone who doesn't (I have no idea what NSR means) are excluded. People who are ignorant of NSR and biija mantras are always free to improve themselves with Google searches further. A Google search for NSR returns -- in order -- National Skills Registry, National Scouting Report, and National Swine Report. Which do you think Card was referring to?
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Blah blah and blah blah of the blah-blah? (was Re: NSR and BM of the M-Ch?)
Share, making a medical recommendation on the basis of what I said is rather risky don't you think? I did not mention the condition, just the chemical used to treat it, and it is used for a number of purposes. From a medical point of view, aloe vera has not been researched enough or well enough to come to any medically useful conclusions, though the cosmetic industry seems to have made it one of its poster child products. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Xeno, aloe vera gel... On Sunday, January 26, 2014 11:19 AM, anartaxius@... anartaxius@... wrote: Buck, I agree with Turq. Card's posts are in their own little world. Most of them are incomprehensible to me, including the request this thread is about. Card actually reduced the jargon a bit by putting a portion of his request in a slightly less technical form parenthetically, but it still did not help. Who else here transliterates Sanskrit or has such a grasp of language? Usually I have no way to even begin to respond to one of his posts. Some additional explanation plain words would be a big help as to what he is getting at. And Buck, your posts are pretty jargon laden as well, besides being almost completely spam. Tell us what you think in your own words. Farmers are not noted for being abstract philosophers, they speak plain and simple. Do you post all that stuff so you look good to the thought police over there at MUM? On occasion you have posted some really interesting things that seem to represent what you think and feel that come across as natural, but most of the time, you do not do this, you sound more like a Jehovah's Witness proffering pre-canned quotes from Watchtower Magazine, so instead of making a worthwhile contribution, you are largely ignored. It's OK to quote things, but then tell us what you think about that, free of jargon, what it means to you, and perhaps how you would explain it to someone who never ever heard of TM or meditation in general. You do not learn what you are saying until you can spontaneously say it in your own words, and understand it on your own terms. Then, you have to learn how to say it to someone who has not gone through that process. It is really easy to fail at this. I have a slight skin condition, so right now I think I will go an apply a layer of (CH2)7(CO2H)2 to the affected area so that the proximal and distal surfaces of the application are minimised. Can anyone here recommend an alternative to this? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: My point, Buck, since you seem to have missed it, is that a number of people -- especially Fairfielders -- have been living in a Jargon Bubble for so long that they no longer realize when they are speaking jargon. They have lost the art -- and, I would suggest, even the desire -- to give intro lectures and communicate with anyone who *doesn't* speak the same jargon they do. That's fine, if all you want to do in life is the thing you've adopted as your schtick here -- preach to the already converted. That's fine if you're comfortable with being an elitist and don't really want to ever speak to anyone who *isn't* already an elitist, and your kind of elitist. It's not so fine if you were ever trying to actually communicate to the occasional lurker who might appear here, wanting to learn a little something about TM, or even spiritual practice in general. But I guess that's not what you're trying to do, right? You'd prefer to keep writing jargon-filled stuff that gets zero replies. Anyone who wants to reply has to come up to your level and stop being so ignorant. Did I get your position on all of this correctly? How long has it been since you ever *gave* an intro lecture, Buck, or even wanted to? I know it's difficult to imagine, interacting with the unwashed masses of the ignorant and all, all those who just aren't as good as you are. I'm just pointing out that pretty much NO ONE responds to your rants as they are. Do you think that maybe...just perhaps...the way you're writing them might have something to do with that? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Om Dear Turq, I am concerned about you. It seems evident you are becoming somewhat obsessed and and even hung-up on this particular thought form around jargon that you would seek to suppress people's writing use of jargon around here on a list that is so manifestly technical about spirituality. Don't be an ass. I am not trying to suppress the use of jargon. I'm trying to get through to people who *no longer realizing they're using it*, and that doing so is *excluding* people from what they're trying to say. Card was looking for an answer and anyone who knows what NSR and biija mantras are and could possibly answer the question will do so. And anyone who doesn't (I have no idea what NSR means) are excluded.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Blah blah and blah blah of the blah-blah? (was Re: NSR and BM of the M-Ch?)
WTF? Xeno, do you have a burr up your butt? Chill out a little. You asked if someone had an alternative for treating your skin condition. Share made friendly suggestion. What's next, you gonna try to get her cited for practicing medicine without a license? Lighten up dude! It's just a chat room! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote: Share, making a medical recommendation on the basis of what I said is rather risky don't you think? I did not mention the condition, just the chemical used to treat it, and it is used for a number of purposes. From a medical point of view, aloe vera has not been researched enough or well enough to come to any medically useful conclusions, though the cosmetic industry seems to have made it one of its poster child products. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Xeno, aloe vera gel... On Sunday, January 26, 2014 11:19 AM, anartaxius@... anartaxius@... wrote: Buck, I agree with Turq. Card's posts are in their own little world. Most of them are incomprehensible to me, including the request this thread is about. Card actually reduced the jargon a bit by putting a portion of his request in a slightly less technical form parenthetically, but it still did not help. Who else here transliterates Sanskrit or has such a grasp of language? Usually I have no way to even begin to respond to one of his posts. Some additional explanation plain words would be a big help as to what he is getting at. And Buck, your posts are pretty jargon laden as well, besides being almost completely spam. Tell us what you think in your own words. Farmers are not noted for being abstract philosophers, they speak plain and simple. Do you post all that stuff so you look good to the thought police over there at MUM? On occasion you have posted some really interesting things that seem to represent what you think and feel that come across as natural, but most of the time, you do not do this, you sound more like a Jehovah's Witness proffering pre-canned quotes from Watchtower Magazine, so instead of making a worthwhile contribution, you are largely ignored. It's OK to quote things, but then tell us what you think about that, free of jargon, what it means to you, and perhaps how you would explain it to someone who never ever heard of TM or meditation in general. You do not learn what you are saying until you can spontaneously say it in your own words, and understand it on your own terms. Then, you have to learn how to say it to someone who has not gone through that process. It is really easy to fail at this. I have a slight skin condition, so right now I think I will go an apply a layer of (CH2)7(CO2H)2 to the affected area so that the proximal and distal surfaces of the application are minimised. Can anyone here recommend an alternative to this? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: My point, Buck, since you seem to have missed it, is that a number of people -- especially Fairfielders -- have been living in a Jargon Bubble for so long that they no longer realize when they are speaking jargon. They have lost the art -- and, I would suggest, even the desire -- to give intro lectures and communicate with anyone who *doesn't* speak the same jargon they do. That's fine, if all you want to do in life is the thing you've adopted as your schtick here -- preach to the already converted. That's fine if you're comfortable with being an elitist and don't really want to ever speak to anyone who *isn't* already an elitist, and your kind of elitist. It's not so fine if you were ever trying to actually communicate to the occasional lurker who might appear here, wanting to learn a little something about TM, or even spiritual practice in general. But I guess that's not what you're trying to do, right? You'd prefer to keep writing jargon-filled stuff that gets zero replies. Anyone who wants to reply has to come up to your level and stop being so ignorant. Did I get your position on all of this correctly? How long has it been since you ever *gave* an intro lecture, Buck, or even wanted to? I know it's difficult to imagine, interacting with the unwashed masses of the ignorant and all, all those who just aren't as good as you are. I'm just pointing out that pretty much NO ONE responds to your rants as they are. Do you think that maybe...just perhaps...the way you're writing them might have something to do with that? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Om Dear Turq, I am concerned about you. It seems evident you are becoming somewhat obsessed and and even hung-up on this particular thought form around jargon that you would seek to suppress people's writing use of jargon around here on a list that is so manifestly technical about spirituality. Don't be an ass. I am not trying to suppress the use of
