[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Distinction Between- Light of God & Lucifer's Sparkle'
WHat part of the guy never existed don't you get? You might as well build a statue of MIckey Mouse and worship that. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" wrote: > > > > Jesus who? > > > > The fictional character invented by the Illuminati to mind-control the > > West thru their prison-religion Christian ity? > > > Whatever you wish to think about the one called Jesus of Nazareth; > His message is one of greatness, any old way you look at it. > He is the one that was brave enough to take the path he did. > For a man to become enlightened and then willingly go through the pain > of death, much like Socrates in Greece, takes pure guts... > So, whatever you think of Jesus, he was surely a dude! >
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Distinction Between- Light of God & Lucifer's Sparkle'
Who are the Illuminatis? Is Bush a member of this sect? Al Quaida? Are we blaming them for all the ills in the world? or are we being paranoid about things that occur in the world? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jesus who? > > The fictional character invented by the Illuminati to mind-control the > West thru their prison-religion Christian ity? > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "BillyG." wrote: > > > > > > [snip] > > > > > > > > .. the only thing you need to do is to remember who you are! > > > > > > > > .. to suggest a mere mortal could devise a plan to thwart the > > > > will of almighty God would render God impotent which is not the > > > > case. > > > > > > The thwarting involved is based on introducing/enhancing the sense of > > > duality and element of amnesia of who you really are. > > > > > > The Illuminati conspiracy to keep humanity enslaved indefinitely does > > > not exclusively involve incarnated entities. > > > > > > > > Jesus said, "The Kingdom of Heaven is within", also, > > "Seek ye first the Kingdom of Heaven and all else will be added unto > you". > > This jives perfectly with Maharishi's teaching... > > And it is true, that there are many other entities, which are > > attracted to you, when you are angry, or in a state of despair, and > > other lower vibrational states... > > The people who commit suicide, or blow themselves up: these are people > > possessed with these lower vibrations... > > The weapons industry, the obsession with death, and destruction. > > The mocking of spirituality in the media. > > It is more than a few people controlling everything- we are all > > susceptible to the flu of fear and mind control... > > This so-called Illuminati conspiracy, I believe attempts to simplify > > everything into a neat black and white package, and being obsessed > > with conspiracy theory's is another way to keep you distracted with > > evil... > > So, the best thing to do is to stay in a spiritual clean place > > yourself; stay out of the muck, and mud, so to speak. > > There are ways to release negative energies, from your aura... > > It is all up to your intention. > > "Ask, and ye shall receive" > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Distinction Between- Light of God & Lucifer's Sparkle'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, billy jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > bobby gee! > > Nice reply - your waxing today. But what's this "the Jewish version, the German version"? Don't know what that means about him - the hanging one. > > bobby gee: > > "Since we are created in the image of God, then it logically follows that we have the same creative abiltiy." > > empty: > > You have hit a gold-mine, and vajra-nut can't even claim to have illuminated your way there! Imposserbull! > Well, I just meant to be like this: The Jewish version, to me, is like the people who close to him, and the essene versions, and the whole notion of Messiah... Then the German version would be Martin Luther... And everyone wants Jesus, to be like them. A Black Jesus, A Roman Jesus, A German Jesus, and so on... The painting of Jesus, somehow they look like the culture in which they are painted... Anyway, I get what you're say, so keep on keepin' on, my friend. Bobby G.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Distinction Between- Light of God & Lucifer's Sparkle'
bobby gee! Nice reply - your waxing today. But what's this "the Jewish version, the German version"? Don't know what that means about him - the hanging one. bobby gee: "Since we are created in the image of God, then it logically follows that we have the same creative abiltiy." empty: You have hit a gold-mine, and vajra-nut can't even claim to have illuminated your way there! Imposserbull! Yep, although it's considered by evangelical fundies to be the satanic imprimatur - imago dei is the trip line for plunging into the neoplatonic residue within xtianity. The Eastern Orthodox have wrapped it up theologically by asserting that the statement "god became man so that man could become god" means that what god is in essence, we can become by grace. It is quite juicy. However they talk about both "image and likeness". According to them, our image of god, established within us, is purely given - it is a gift. We, as contingent beings, do not have the power to alter this image. The "likeness" however is our responsibility alone and is usually covered over with trash of the "pathe" - the emotionality and darkness of narcissus. Their way out? Hit the deck with me buddy-boy and get your heart lower than your head. Bow but don't bow-wow. Use your senses to receive the richness of creation (displayed liberally in the offerings used in the Orthodox liturgy). See, hear, taste the imprints of beauty left by the most beautiful One. And, if you are fortunate, you'll meet someone who will show you how to pick up the scent, like a well-bred hound, of the pathway into the heart (nous). Once there, you'll either leave out of narcisstic boredom, or stand silent, awake and alert before the one who alone is the source of all. By the way, all Latin-based theologies (this includes all western, post-augustinian xtians from roman catholics to hyperfundies) consider this POV to be heretical - broaching the line between creator and creature. Imagine it. Transcendent intelligence and free will - everything that makes us what we are - is truncated by the evangelical fundies into the twin horns on satan's head. Imposserble. empty empty of ness is messiness. Robert Gimbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, billy jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Iesus - as in Jesus and Satan, fictions created for the control of roman women and their slaves. And now look at them - hypostasized into mythic figures so realistic that even Yogananada treated them yogically. Poor Billy G. - without Yogananda what could he say about the blessed lard - and him crucified! > > empty > > emptyless is the final ness > Yeah, well then I recon that the Coliseum is a figment of your imagination, my imagination, whose story is it anyway. There's the Roman version, the Jewish version, the German version, the Baptist version, Methodist version, Orthodox version, and no version at all: the innocence of a child, a bird, an elephant...even a lion! "Lions & Tigers & Bears, oh my!!! So many versions of reality to choose from. Since we are created in the image of God, then it logically follows that we have the same creative ability. If you believe in emptiness, that you are welcome to create it. It will be empty as you wish... - Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today!
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Distinction Between- Light of God & Lucifer's Sparkle'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, billy jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Iesus - as in Jesus and Satan, fictions created for the control of roman women and their slaves. And now look at them - hypostasized into mythic figures so realistic that even Yogananada treated them yogically. Poor Billy G. - without Yogananda what could he say about the blessed lard - and him crucified! > > empty > > emptyless is the final ness > Yeah, well then I recon that the Coliseum is a figment of your imagination, my imagination, whose story is it anyway. There's the Roman version, the Jewish version, the German version, the Baptist version, Methodist version, Orthodox version, and no version at all: the innocence of a child, a bird, an elephant...even a lion! "Lions & Tigers & Bears, oh my!!! So many versions of reality to choose from. Since we are created in the image of God, then it logically follows that we have the same creative ability. If you believe in emptiness, that you are welcome to create it. It will be empty as you wish...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Distinction Between- Light of God & Lucifer's Sparkle'
Iesus - as in Jesus and Satan, fictions created for the control of roman women and their slaves. And now look at them - hypostasized into mythic figures so realistic that even Yogananada treated them yogically. Poor Billy G. - without Yogananda what could he say about the blessed lard - and him crucified! empty emptyless is the final ness peterklutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jesus who? The fictional character invented by the Illuminati to mind-control the West thru their prison-religion Christian ity? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "BillyG." wrote: > > > > [snip] > > > > > > .. the only thing you need to do is to remember who you are! > > > > > > .. to suggest a mere mortal could devise a plan to thwart the > > > will of almighty God would render God impotent which is not the > > > case. > > > > The thwarting involved is based on introducing/enhancing the sense of > > duality and element of amnesia of who you really are. > > > > The Illuminati conspiracy to keep humanity enslaved indefinitely does > > not exclusively involve incarnated entities. > > > > > Jesus said, "The Kingdom of Heaven is within", also, > "Seek ye first the Kingdom of Heaven and all else will be added unto you". > This jives perfectly with Maharishi's teaching... > And it is true, that there are many other entities, which are > attracted to you, when you are angry, or in a state of despair, and > other lower vibrational states... > The people who commit suicide, or blow themselves up: these are people > possessed with these lower vibrations... > The weapons industry, the obsession with death, and destruction. > The mocking of spirituality in the media. > It is more than a few people controlling everything- we are all > susceptible to the flu of fear and mind control... > This so-called Illuminati conspiracy, I believe attempts to simplify > everything into a neat black and white package, and being obsessed > with conspiracy theory's is another way to keep you distracted with > evil... > So, the best thing to do is to stay in a spiritual clean place > yourself; stay out of the muck, and mud, so to speak. > There are ways to release negative energies, from your aura... > It is all up to your intention. > "Ask, and ye shall receive" > - Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Distinction Between- Light of God & Lucifer's Sparkle'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jesus who? > > The fictional character invented by the Illuminati to mind-control the > West thru their prison-religion Christian ity? > Whatever you wish to think about the one called Jesus of Nazareth; His message is one of greatness, any old way you look at it. He is the one that was brave enough to take the path he did. For a man to become enlightened and then willingly go through the pain of death, much like Socrates in Greece, takes pure guts... So, whatever you think of Jesus, he was surely a dude!
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Distinction Between- Light of God & Lucifer's Sparkle'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "BillyG." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ron" wrote: > > >snip > > >If it is such a small issue about the Guru declaring the disciple > >enlightened and then > >giving charge to that one to be a guru, why did Yogananada do it? why > >to many Guru's > > make this point as being so significant? > > Sat Gurus don't grow on trees, in this day and age you'd think so! MMY > has never claimed to be a Sat Guru, his honesty is refreshing. Yet, he > still offers an effective technique for Self Realization, although, at > some point a Sat guru may step in and help a *sincere* devotee out, > not till then. > > One must have very good karma to get the personal attention of a Sat > Guru.there may not even be any on the planet as we speak, at least > not in the west!! > Again this need for someone else. Is everyone on this list either brainwashed or an Illuminati agent?
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Distinction Between- Light of God & Lucifer's Sparkle'
Jesus who? The fictional character invented by the Illuminati to mind-control the West thru their prison-religion Christian ity? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "BillyG." wrote: > > > > [snip] > > > > > > .. the only thing you need to do is to remember who you are! > > > > > > .. to suggest a mere mortal could devise a plan to thwart the > > > will of almighty God would render God impotent which is not the > > > case. > > > > The thwarting involved is based on introducing/enhancing the sense of > > duality and element of amnesia of who you really are. > > > > The Illuminati conspiracy to keep humanity enslaved indefinitely does > > not exclusively involve incarnated entities. > > > > > Jesus said, "The Kingdom of Heaven is within", also, > "Seek ye first the Kingdom of Heaven and all else will be added unto you". > This jives perfectly with Maharishi's teaching... > And it is true, that there are many other entities, which are > attracted to you, when you are angry, or in a state of despair, and > other lower vibrational states... > The people who commit suicide, or blow themselves up: these are people > possessed with these lower vibrations... > The weapons industry, the obsession with death, and destruction. > The mocking of spirituality in the media. > It is more than a few people controlling everything- we are all > susceptible to the flu of fear and mind control... > This so-called Illuminati conspiracy, I believe attempts to simplify > everything into a neat black and white package, and being obsessed > with conspiracy theory's is another way to keep you distracted with > evil... > So, the best thing to do is to stay in a spiritual clean place > yourself; stay out of the muck, and mud, so to speak. > There are ways to release negative energies, from your aura... > It is all up to your intention. > "Ask, and ye shall receive" >
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Distinction Between- Light of God & Lucifer's Sparkle'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jesus said, "The Kingdom of Heaven is within", also, > "Seek ye first the Kingdom of Heaven and all else will be added unto you". > This jives perfectly with Maharishi's teaching... > And it is true, that there are many other entities, which are > attracted to you, when you are angry, or in a state of despair, and > other lower vibrational states... > The people who commit suicide, or blow themselves up: these are people > possessed with these lower vibrations... > The weapons industry, the obsession with death, and destruction. > The mocking of spirituality in the media. > It is more than a few people controlling everything- we are all > susceptible to the flu of fear and mind control... > This so-called Illuminati conspiracy, I believe attempts to simplify > everything into a neat black and white package, and being obsessed > with conspiracy theory's is another way to keep you distracted with > evil... > So, the best thing to do is to stay in a spiritual clean place > yourself; stay out of the muck, and mud, so to speak. > There are ways to release negative energies, from your aura... > It is all up to your intention. > "Ask, and ye shall receive" Can't argue with that.also, "God helps those, who help themselves".
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Distinction Between- Light of God & Lucifer's Sparkle'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >snip >If it is such a small issue about the Guru declaring the disciple >enlightened and then >giving charge to that one to be a guru, why did Yogananada do it? why >to many Guru's > make this point as being so significant? Sat Gurus don't grow on trees, in this day and age you'd think so! MMY has never claimed to be a Sat Guru, his honesty is refreshing. Yet, he still offers an effective technique for Self Realization, although, at some point a Sat guru may step in and help a *sincere* devotee out, not till then. One must have very good karma to get the personal attention of a Sat Guru.there may not even be any on the planet as we speak, at least not in the west!!
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Distinction Between- Light of God & Lucifer's Sparkle'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "BillyG." wrote: > > [snip] > > > > .. the only thing you need to do is to remember who you are! > > > > .. to suggest a mere mortal could devise a plan to thwart the > > will of almighty God would render God impotent which is not the > > case. > > The thwarting involved is based on introducing/enhancing the sense of > duality and element of amnesia of who you really are. > > The Illuminati conspiracy to keep humanity enslaved indefinitely does > not exclusively involve incarnated entities. > > Jesus said, "The Kingdom of Heaven is within", also, "Seek ye first the Kingdom of Heaven and all else will be added unto you". This jives perfectly with Maharishi's teaching... And it is true, that there are many other entities, which are attracted to you, when you are angry, or in a state of despair, and other lower vibrational states... The people who commit suicide, or blow themselves up: these are people possessed with these lower vibrations... The weapons industry, the obsession with death, and destruction. The mocking of spirituality in the media. It is more than a few people controlling everything- we are all susceptible to the flu of fear and mind control... This so-called Illuminati conspiracy, I believe attempts to simplify everything into a neat black and white package, and being obsessed with conspiracy theory's is another way to keep you distracted with evil... So, the best thing to do is to stay in a spiritual clean place yourself; stay out of the muck, and mud, so to speak. There are ways to release negative energies, from your aura... It is all up to your intention. "Ask, and ye shall receive"
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Distinction Between- Light of God & Lucifer's Sparkle'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "BillyG." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" wrote: > > > There is no path! There are no laws! The concept of laws and paths are > > part of the illusion! As is the notion of a state of perfection, > > ultimate or not, in the relative! > > The trick is to dispel the illusion, not just by denial of its > existence but by un-entanglement of the jiva/soul with it! Mere denial > is not enough, the residual samskaras (impressions in the mind) are > deeply rooted in the subconscious. > > Awareness of the one 'Reality' (God), at those subtle levels alone, > dispels the notion of duality/illusion, not till then. > To describe realization as something at the end of a path is describing it from within a state of illusion in a - per definition - deluded way. The reasons for persising with such a description can be several. It can, for example, be the expression of a sincere seeker dong his or her best to describe what they see but keeps thinking they have not yet achieved. It can also be the description insisted on by someone who seeks to thwart attempts of immediate, effortless and spontaneous self-realization by just remembering who they are. Which is your excuse for putting up roadblocks?
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Distinction Between- Light of God & Lucifer's Sparkle'
> The trick is to dispel the illusion, not just by denial of its > existence but by un-entanglement of the jiva/soul with it! Mere denial > is not enough, the residual samskaras (impressions in the mind) are > deeply rooted in the subconscious. > > Awareness of the one 'Reality' (God), at those subtle levels alone, > dispels the notion of duality/illusion, not till then. > Hello, I pick out some of the posts from my other group that I think are really deep, then pass them along here. The last post is watching a one to one exchange with what looks like one having profound and fast changes now, and the guidance that is administered as is needed. I have followed the journey of that disciple since she came on line one year ago, and then just took Diksha in Arizona last week. Swami G drove 2 full days to go out and give the diksha. Anyway, Swami G said the interest is not so much about weather of not Maharishi found some loophole and is whatever he is ( I am quite sure he says on Larry King- "I am a purusha, sanyasi if you know the word, a monk" ) The interest is in the state of the disciples in any movement. If they are in confusion, or are being mislead by unscrupulous Gurus, as a compassionate offer, Swami G is there to clear the air for those interested in entering this path. This path, as was just pointed out in the last post is for the mystic, and for those that want Realization above all else. Actually, anyone contacting Swami G, if the inquiry is sincere and honest, it is responded to, actually it may also get a response if it is insincere and dishonest, but knowing the way the path is here, the response will be to tell you straight forward- you have come here without integrity, in a dishonest and insincere way. There are loads of movements out there, with disciples left in major confusion and hurt, as a result of sometimes outright abuse and dishonesty on a part of the Guru. So, it is my interest hobby to inquire ( not so much Swami G)- hey!- did you hear what I just heard? This post where MMY describing how he felt caged up all these years do to poor vastu. This in itself caught my eyebrows, but now putting some of these other things together- I put it out, maybe someone has heard an explaination from MMY. However, I was a TM teacher and of reasonable intelligence and never heard these things answered properly, and actually I didn't even know what questions to ask at that time. I did post MMY talking about Guru Dev, and it is the closest thing that I have heard so far to MMY answering questions about this tradtion thing. The excuse is he must of known but it wasn't brought up so time wouldn't be wasted planning. While this is a fun response and it drew laughter, it is simply a state of confusion to not have these things cleared up. Since MMY has not given an answer that I know of yet, I pass along again the comment that Swami G made- the north had Guri prevelent as one of the dasnamis, and there would have been no objection for a non Braman to take sanyas, for which he would then be a sanyasi, and then he would wear orange. This is my understanding. If this is such a small issue, why did Guru Dev wear orange? Why did Guru dev officially take sanyas? If it is such a small issue about the Guru declaring the disciple enlightened and then giving charge to that one to be a guru, why did Yogananada do it? why to many Guru's make this point as being so significant? I think most gurus that have done this would say yes, this is the way it goes and yes, all this is very significant. Tanmay
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Distinction Between- Light of God & Lucifer's Sparkle'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There is no path! There are no laws! The concept of laws and paths are > part of the illusion! As is the notion of a state of perfection, > ultimate or not, in the relative! The trick is to dispel the illusion, not just by denial of its existence but by un-entanglement of the jiva/soul with it! Mere denial is not enough, the residual samskaras (impressions in the mind) are deeply rooted in the subconscious. Awareness of the one 'Reality' (God), at those subtle levels alone, dispels the notion of duality/illusion, not till then.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Distinction Between- Light of God & Lucifer's Sparkle'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "BillyG." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > > .. the only thing you need to do is to remember who you are! > > .. to suggest a mere mortal could devise a plan to thwart the > will of almighty God would render God impotent which is not the > case. The thwarting involved is based on introducing/enhancing the sense of duality and element of amnesia of who you really are. The Illuminati conspiracy to keep humanity enslaved indefinitely does not exclusively involve incarnated entities. > God can dissolve creation at any time he chooses as creation > is nothing but a dream in the mind of God. If you really believe this, why this statement? > The path to remembering who you are is the path of Dharma or > Righteousness, that is to come into alignment with the laws of > nature which are carrying all things to ultimate perfection thru > evolution. Or, like you said...remember who you are, a spark of the > almighty. There is no path! There are no laws! The concept of laws and paths are part of the illusion! As si the notion of a state of perfection, ultimate or not, in the relative! More precisely, the belief in them as requirements for spiritual evolution is a particular subtype of illusion handtailored by the Illumanity for controlling audiences who have somehow glimpsed that there is more to life than meets the eyes and would like to get bail out of the illusion pronto. Given your belief that God can terminate His/Her dream at any moment why don't you just do that and wake up from your dream - right here and right now? It is who you are! Isn't it? The essence of everything that exists, ever has existed and ever will exist!
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Distinction Between- Light of God & Lucifer's Sparkle'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (1) It is certainly impossible in terms of Spirit, but once they GMO > and microchip us - the bodies we now have at our disposal may have > become useless as tools for experiences outside of the five senses. > > (2) But there is nothing there to learn :-) > This whole hierchial graduate thinking is an illusion imposed on you > to make you believe you are not worthy of being what you already are. > > What you in effect are saying is: O please Lord, keep me in prison a > little bit longer since I do not yet feel worthy of being released. >I > don't remember why, but these feeling of guilt and inferiority I > experience must be the result of myself being a really bad person - >if > not in this life than surely in some previous one. That would be correct, as conscience is a product of evolution that is brought over from one life to the next thru the souls intuition. > The feelings are illusions invented by the Illuminati and imposed on > you to enslave you and the rest of humanity. > > There is no natural place for them in Life (remorse, inferiority or > the Illuminati) - they are all manufactured things that need of > constant reinforcement not to fall apart by themselves. They should remind us of work we need to do, whether morally or ethically to come into alignment with God's laws and purposes for life/us. > And the only thing you need to do is to remember who you are! The world of relativity (maya) contains no absolutes, to suggest a mere mortal could devise a plan to thwart the will of almighty God would render God impotent which is not the case. God can dissolve creation at any time he chooses as creation is nothing but a dream in the mind of God. The path to remembering who you are is the path of Dharma or Righteousness, that is to come into alignment with the laws of nature which are carrying all things to ultimate perfection thru evolution. Or, like you said...remember who you are, a spark of the almighty.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Distinction Between- Light of God & Lucifer's Sparkle'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "BillyG." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" wrote: > >snip > > > The luciferian opening you extol, and which the Illuminati so > > desperatelly wants humanity to believe in, is by your own confession > > to fall into amnesia about all levels of existence except the five > > sense reality. > > > > This amnesia is not the point of start of dynamic will, awareness or > > self discovery - it's the dead end of all these things and the place > > where the Illuminati wishes to keep humanity indefinitely: > > Perhaps, but that would be impossible as the spark of divinity exists > in us all, waiting for release. > > I think the point of awareness in the five senses is to learn the > lessons of life thru the experiences of opposites, (i.e. pleasure from > good-pain from bad) it's a sort of nursery school for infant humanity, > hopefully we will all graduate, but never stay here indefinitely. > (1) It is certainly impossible in terms of Spirit, but once they GMO and microchip us - the bodies we now have at our disposal may have become useless as tools for experiences outside of the five senses. (2) But there is nothing there to learn :-) This whole hierchial graduate thinking is an illusion imposed on you to make you believe you are not worthy of being what you already are. What you in effect are saying is: O please Lord, keep me in prison a little bit longer since I do not yet feel worthy of being released. I don't remember why, but these feeling of guilt and inferiority I experience must be the result of myself being a relly bad person - if not in this life than surely in some previous one. The feelings are illusions invented by the Illuminati and imposed on you to enslave you and the rest of humanity. There is no natural place for them in Life (remorse, inferiority or the Illuminati) - they are all manufactured things that need of constant reinforcement not to fall apart by themselves. And the only thing you need to do is to remember who you are!
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Distinction Between- Light of God & Lucifer's Sparkle'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >snip > The luciferian opening you extol, and which the Illuminati so > desperatelly wants humanity to believe in, is by your own confession > to fall into amnesia about all levels of existence except the five > sense reality. > > This amnesia is not the point of start of dynamic will, awareness or > self discovery - it's the dead end of all these things and the place > where the Illuminati wishes to keep humanity indefinitely: Perhaps, but that would be impossible as the spark of divinity exists in us all, waiting for release. I think the point of awareness in the five senses is to learn the lessons of life thru the experiences of opposites, (i.e. pleasure from good-pain from bad) it's a sort of nursery school for infant humanity, hopefully we will all graduate, but never stay here indefinitely.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Distinction Between- Light of God & Lucifer's Sparkle'
Thanks for offering yourself as a prime example of just how deep the collective mind control has taken the world.. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "BillyG." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel > wrote: > ... if it weren't for the luciferian spirits (the > light givers) man would still be in the garden of Eden, merely passive > occupants with no dynamic will or 'self' consciousness. Lucifer opened > early man's 'eyes' to the physical world (and they noticed they were > naked) starting him on the journey of self discovery. (Max Heindel Man's natural state is infinite awareness in unbounded consciousness of all levels of existence. The luciferian opening you extol, and which the Illuminati so desperatelly wants humanity to believe in, is by your own confession to fall into amnesia about all levels of existence except the five sense reality. This amnesia is not the point of start of dynamic will, awareness or self discovery - it's the dead end of all these things and the place where the Illuminati wishes to keep humanity indefinitely: imprisoned by fear of pretty much everything whilst degrading our capacity to see their imposed illusion by bombarding us with pretty much anything they can come up with; including financial enslavement, GMO, aspartame, microchiping, electromagnetic pollution, chemtrails, indoctrination at "schools", dumbing down by telly and forcing lies 24/7 on peoples thru media, and what else have you.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Distinction Between- Light of God & Lucifer's Sparkle'
> Ha, ha, ha..does he wear a red suit? > No, I don't think he wears a red suit. I think Al Pacino probably came closest to the part in some of his films... Jack Nickelson is good at the part also. And lest we forget Micky Jagger... But anyway, you can feel his presence: it's cold; you can feel his intention: it's evil, you can feel his honesty: he has known. So, sometimes you get the feeling your listening to some rap on Tv or Radio, or some other nonsense they baby feed down your thoat. It's starting to taste to damn bitter lately, and more insane, so. The evil one reveals himself more everyday, as the vibration of the consciousness raises to higher frequencies, lower frequencies get squeeze out... Huffing and a puffing, screaming and paranoid. No peace for souls bound in the hell of their own creation... P.S. how do ya like those new F-22's awesome dude! > > Lucifer lives in the minds of men. > > OK, I get it, Ha, ha. > > > He can be in many places, and hearts at once. > > So, we guard against evil. > > Like Maharishi says, we guard against the Raksashas.. > > By that I think he means those under the influence of the tamastic > quality of Maya/Satan. > > > It's just the way it is, in the world right now. > > Agreed, lots of low souls! > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Distinction Between- Light of God & Lucifer's Sparkle'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "qntmpkt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >snip >but symbology implies that the > humans are to seek out knowledge for themselves through direct > experience I can agree with that.previous comments in jest, :-( >snip
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Distinction Between- Light of God & Lucifer's Sparkle'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am not saying anything about the Catholic Church. > My comments were spiritual not representing any particular religion. > The purpose of Lucifer, is to create evil in the world, primarily > through murder, lust and greed. > He uses this vibration, and since he's been around, a long, long time. > He like to make a mockery of man-kind. > He enjoys making a mockery of love, and kindness. > You can see a lot of this play out on Foxnews. Ha, ha, ha..does he wear a red suit? > Lucifer lives in the minds of men. OK, I get it, Ha, ha. > He can be in many places, and hearts at once. > So, we guard against evil. > Like Maharishi says, we guard against the Raksashas.. By that I think he means those under the influence of the tamastic quality of Maya/Satan. > It's just the way it is, in the world right now. Agreed, lots of low souls! > So, I agree yes, that evil exists in every institution, that has been > created by man; there's no doubt about it. > A couple of books that have influenced my thinking and understanding > of these matters, were written by C.S. Lewis, and Malachi Martin... Martin
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Distinction Between- Light of God & Lucifer's Sparkle'
(snip) Feature this: Lucifer-Satan rebelled against "God" > (the Judaeo-Christian Deity) and is trying to entice people to > perform evil acts,...for what purpose? To "prove" that humans are > innately evil, to show YHVH that His Divine Plan will never work? > The facts speak for themselves. Orthodox Christianity has generated > far more evil in the world that Satan could ever generate. Just look > at the numbers of pedophiles in YHVH's "Church". > I am not saying anything about the Catholic Church. My comments were spiritual not representing any particular religion. The purpose of Lucifer, is to create evil in the world, primarily through murder, lust and greed. He uses this vibration, and since he's been around, a long, long time. He like to make a mockery of man-kind. He enjoys making a mockery of love, and kindness. You can see a lot of this play out on Foxnews. Lucifer lives in the minds of men. He can be in many places, and hearts at once. So, we guard against evil. Like Maharishi says, we guard against the Raksashas.. It's just the way it is, in the world right now. So, I agree yes, that evil exists in every institution, that has been created by man; there's no doubt about it. A couple of books that have influenced my thinking and understanding of these matters, were written by C.S. Lewis, and Malachi Martin... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Screwtape_Letters http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malachi_Martin
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Distinction Between- Light of God & Lucifer's Sparkle'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "qntmpkt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --That's only the Lucifer of Tradition. The "real" Lucifer (Satan) > is actually helping Souls ascend out of the lower astral dimensions; > and about a year ago was converted to Buddhism. Nyuk, nyuk..my laugh for the day! > But even the traditional account of Satan is non-sensical > Jabberwocki. Feature this: Lucifer-Satan rebelled against "God" > (the Judaeo-Christian Deity) and is trying to entice people to > perform evil acts,...for what purpose? To "prove" that humans are > innately evil, to show YHVH that His Divine Plan will never work? > The facts speak for themselves. Orthodox Christianity has generated > far more evil in the world that Satan could ever generate. Just look > at the numbers of pedophiles in YHVH's "Church". > Actually, the situation is directly opposite to that portrayed in > Genesis. If you scrutinize Genesis carefully, We're still waiting. you will see that YHVH > deliberately tries to conceal the "Knowledge of the fruit of good and > evil" (i.e. cause and effect) from humans, lest they get enough > brains to decide for themselves what's right vs wrong. > Satan, OTOH, in the form of the Kundalini snake, says to humans > that "YHVH" is not the real "God"; but symbology implies that the > humans are to seek out knowledge for themselves through direct > experience rather than allowing some supposed pie-in the sky Deity to > write a list of do's an don'ts on a stone tablet. > YHVH's message is essentially evil and has split the universe in a > shattered trashheap of dualistic splinters. Ha, ha, nice try, but nothing but opinionated garbage!
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Distinction Between- Light of God & Lucifer's Sparkle'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The wise ones, > Through the ages, Buddha, Jesus, and others, > Have always spoken of the need to develope purity of consciousness, develope the soul, because the things of the material world are temporary. > So, we speak of the 'Light of God' or 'Pure Consciousness', we are speaking of a different kind of light, then the shiny things of the material world. The old testament prophets called maya by the name Satan (Hebrew-the adversary). In Greek he is called 'devil or diabolos'. Satan or Maya is the Cosmic Magician who produces multiplicity of forms to hide the One Formless Verity (God), the sole function of Satan or Maya is to attempt to divert man from Spirit to matter, from Reality to unreality. Such is God's lila, or play. "The devil, was a murderer from the beginning and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him." (Bible) "For this purpose the Son of God (light of God found in meditation) was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil (maya). (Bible) > The betrayal ~ of God in Heaven it is told, > Initiated by Archangel Lucifer. Lucifer, got a bad rap, if it weren't for the luciferian spirits (the light givers) man would still be in the garden of Eden, merely passive occupants with no dynamic will or 'self' consciousness. Lucifer opened early man's 'eyes' to the physical world (and they noticed they were naked) starting him on the journey of self discovery. (Max Heindel) > This act of defiance started the forces of fear and mockery of God's Holy work. > > So, the things of the world, that are advertised as bright and shiny and so, so important... > all the real estate, gold and silver, filling their coffers with stolen money to buy bright and shiny and new weapons systems... > Then send them in, to experience hell, and then drop them off on the other side of pain. > These are the things of the brightness of Lucifer. Perhaps Satan or the tamastic quality of Tamas would be more to the pointand attachment, of course. > Lucifer doesn't like to get his hands dirty- he usually uses others for dirty work. > Like Hitler, he works behind the scenes to propagate his murderous ways, > Like Charlie Manson - (Why did we do it, they asked? 'Cause Charlie said...)... > You can think of some others I'm sure. > Lust and greed, and unconsciousness are his good friends arrogance is one of his main character traits... > Like god-father in the mafia. > Strong arming and tempting everyone and everything for the sake of evil intent and desire. > Good thing, he self destructs in the end... (Karma). > Hitler is a prime example. > r.g. Well, we do have free will, to do God's will and be happy or to be compelled by Maya/Satan to do the ego's will (a product of Satan or objects of the senses) and suffer.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Distinction Between- Light of God & Lucifer's Sparkle'
--That's only the Lucifer of Tradition. The "real" Lucifer (Satan) is actually helping Souls ascend out of the lower astral dimensions; and about a year ago was converted to Buddhism. But even the traditional account of Satan is non-sensical Jabberwocki. Feature this: Lucifer-Satan rebelled against "God" (the Judaeo-Christian Deity) and is trying to entice people to perform evil acts,...for what purpose? To "prove" that humans are innately evil, to show YHVH that His Divine Plan will never work? The facts speak for themselves. Orthodox Christianity has generated far more evil in the world that Satan could ever generate. Just look at the numbers of pedophiles in YHVH's "Church". Actually, the situation is directly opposite to that portrayed in Genesis. If you scrutinize Genesis carefully, you will see that YHVH deliberately tries to conceal the "Knowledge of the fruit of good and evil" (i.e. cause and effect) from humans, lest they get enough brains to decide for themselves what's right vs wrong. Satan, OTOH, in the form of the Kundalini snake, says to humans that "YHVH" is not the real "God"; but symbology implies that the humans are to seek out knowledge for themselves through direct experience rather than allowing some supposed pie-in the sky Deity to write a list of do's an don'ts on a stone tablet. YHVH's message is essentially evil and has split the universe in a shattered trashheap of dualistic splinters. - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The wise ones, > Through the ages, Buddha, Jesus, and others, > Have always spoken of the need to develope purity of consciousness, develope the soul, because the things of the material world are temporary. > So, we speak of the 'Light of God' or 'Pure Consciousness', we are speaking of a different kind of light, then the shiny things of the material world. > The betrayal ~ of God in Heaven it is told, > Initiated by Archangel Lucifer. > This act of defiance started the forces of fear and mockery of God's Holy work. > > So, the things of the world, that are advertised as bright and shiny and so, so important... > all the real estate, gold and silver, filling their coffers with stolen money to buy bright and shiny and new weapons systems... > Then send them in, to experience hell, and then drop them off on the other side of pain. > These are the things of the brightness of Lucifer. > Lucifer doesn't like to get his hands dirty- he usually uses others for dirty work. > Like Hitler, he works behind the scenes to propagate his murderous ways, > Like Charlie Manson - (Why did we do it, they asked? 'Cause Charlie said...)... > You can think of some others I'm sure. > Lust and greed, and unconsciousness are his good friends arrogance is one of his main character traits... > Like god-father in the mafia. > Strong arming and tempting everyone and everything for the sake of evil intent and desire. > Good thing, he self destructs in the end... (Karma). > Hitler is a prime example. > r.g. > > > - > Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. >
