[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM
The simple instruction of TM is a universally good thing. Might you direct a new secular TM instruction organization? TM's simplicity and universality are compromised by the overtly religious TMO of 2008. Association with the current religious TMO makes the TM technique vastly irrelevant to the larger world. The inevitable partisan orientation of religious organizations makes the wide-scale teaching of TM highly unlikely as long as it is associated with the current overtly religious TMO. The timing is right for a return to the secular presentation of TM. There are tens of thousands of TM teachers worldwide who might re-dedicate their coming retirement years to teaching secular TM again, as it was taught until 1975. Simple TM am pm, with an occasional residence course... no products no yagyas..etc. What do you think ? Dear Mainstream, you might be witness to a re-birth of a secular TMmovement after Maharishi(AD), if you might watch these new meetings. The first meeting was held during the day as Maharishi was dying. (BD). Evidently planned even BD during January given the press- release published in the Fairfield Ledger days before. For review of the first meeting See FFL post: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/163272 Jai Guru Dev, -Doug in FF paste Dear Governors, Sidhas, and Meditators, We are delighted to announce that Raja Hagelin's 12-part videotaped conference series (on the scientific discovery of the Unified Field and its practical applications in every area of society to eradicate such intractable problems as violence, disease, and poverty) that originally started on the February 4 will recommence on Monday, March 3. Full details are below. You may recall that at the beginning of this month Dr. Bevan Morris reminded us that as Maharishi went into silence in January, he expressed a deep desire that everyone see these talks again and again: this is the knowledge Maharishi wanted everyone to have at this time. Dr. Morris also asked that we invite our meditating and non-meditating friends and colleagues to hear the lectures as well. We therefore hope that you, your friends, and your colleagues will be able to attend as many of these tapes as possible. Jai Guru Dev Wally and Alex De Vasier Maharishi Invincibility Center of Fairfield Telephone: 472-1174 and Mac Muehlman and Cynthia Parker Maharishi Invincibility Center of Maharishi Vedic City Telephone: 472-8625 TOPICS AND DATES · Health - Monday, March 3 · Architecture - Tuesday, March 4 · Agriculture - Wednesday, March 5 · Trade Commerce - Thursday, March 6 · Defense - Friday, March 7 · Science Technology - Saturday, March 8 · Communication - Sunday, March 9 · Religion and Culture - Monday, March 10 · Administration - Tuesday, March 11 · Law and Order - Wednesday, March 12 · Finance and Planning - Thursday, March 13 · Education - Friday, March 14 (This is a repeat of the tape that was shown February 4) TIMES 8:00 p.m. LOCATIONS · Governors, Sidhas, and Meditators - Maharishi Patanjali Golden Dome or Headley Hall, Maharishi Vedic City. Those with program badges, please show them at the door.) · Non-meditators, please call 472-1174 to arrange a private viewing. ADMISSION · The general cost of admission will be $10 per lecture. · M.U.M. and MSAE faculty, administrators, and students, and Invincible American Assembly participants on Settle Foundation scholarships may wish to make an optional donation of up to $10 per lecture. CONTENT OF LECTURE SERIES The Unified Field, according to modern physics, is the deepest, most powerful level of Nature's functioning and the source of the infinite creativity and intelligence within every individual and displayed throughout the universe. Dr. Hagelin, who conducted pioneering research at the European Center for Particle Physics and the Stanford Linear Accelerator Center, will present the scientific discovery of the Unified Field and its practical applications in every area of society to eradicate such intractable problems as violence, disease and poverty. Dr. Hagelin will also reveal how these same technologies of the Unified Field, which include the Transcendental Meditation program of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, can promote enlightenment for every individual and raise every nation to peace and invincibility. Dr. Hagelin currently serves as Executive Director of the International Center for Invincible Defense in New York City; International Director of the Global Union of Scientists for Peace; President of Maharishi Central University in Kansas; Minister of Science and Technology of the Global Country of World Peace; and Raja of Invincible America. For more information, please visit http://www.america.unifiedfieldconferences.org/. end paste --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Lynch has been conspicuously unmanifest at TMO
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM
The timing is right for a return to the secular presentation of TM. There are tens of thousands of TM teachers worldwide who might re-dedicate their coming retirement years to teaching secular TM again, as it was taught until 1975. Simple TM am pm, with an occasional residence course... no products no yagyas..etc. What do you think ? -Not gonna happen. I tried to contact Lynch, but he never received my emails. Instead his assistants corresponded with me. Lynch and Co forward all their prospects straight to the current TMO administration. Lynch is not stepping up as any sort of creative new force in the Movement but rather he is just entirely status quo. It should be rather telling that Lynch who is so surreal buys into the new improved TMO without reservations. Only someone of his 'creative' turn would see no problem selling religion as non religion. Lynch is not going to improve the Movement, nor will he even be the slightest bit successful. He's totally out of touch with reality.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: Okay, this is old school. Is is the way verifications should be done. Do you think Nab will have the courage to admit his error. Let's see what the future posts hold. Tip of the hat to you, John Manning. Nabby will do exactly the same thing he did after claiming that sandiego108 couldn't *possibly* be Jim Flanegin, and then finding out that it was. He'll pretend he never said anything... This is what a TM TB calls the truth. Speaking of the truth, I'm unable to find anywhere that Nabby made any claims as to whether the phrase angels and gods appears in SBAL. Can you please quote what I seem to have missed? Actually I made a comment challenging Edg to provide a reference to angelsgods knowing he would be unable to. That someone else found them is a different thing altogether. But you never made a *claim*. And you acknowledged you couldn't be sure since you hadn't read SBAL in some years. So as usual, we see Barry creating his very own facts at the same time he's berating a TMer for doing so when the TMer did no such thing. Plus which, he was wrong about you not being willing to acknowledge that the phrase did appear (once) in SBAL. Do you think we'll see an acknowledgment from Barry that (a) he misstated what you said and (b) he was wrong that you wouldn't acknowledge the facts? In real life what you do when someone develops a Judy-sized obsession with you is go to court and get a restraining order. On the Internet, you just ignore the person. Especially if it's Carnavale in your town, and you have a life, and the stalker doesn't... :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: Okay, this is old school. Is is the way verifications should be done. Do you think Nab will have the courage to admit his error. Let's see what the future posts hold. Tip of the hat to you, John Manning. Nabby will do exactly the same thing he did after claiming that sandiego108 couldn't *possibly* be Jim Flanegin, and then finding out that it was. He'll pretend he never said anything... This is what a TM TB calls the truth. Speaking of the truth, I'm unable to find anywhere that Nabby made any claims as to whether the phrase angels and gods appears in SBAL. Can you please quote what I seem to have missed? Actually I made a comment challenging Edg to provide a reference to angelsgods knowing he would be unable to. That someone else found them is a different thing altogether. But you never made a *claim*. And you acknowledged you couldn't be sure since you hadn't read SBAL in some years. So as usual, we see Barry creating his very own facts at the same time he's berating a TMer for doing so when the TMer did no such thing. Plus which, he was wrong about you not being willing to acknowledge that the phrase did appear (once) in SBAL. Do you think we'll see an acknowledgment from Barry that (a) he misstated what you said and (b) he was wrong that you wouldn't acknowledge the facts? In real life what you do when someone develops a Judy-sized obsession with you is go to court and get a restraining order. On the Internet, you just ignore the person. Especially if it's Carnavale in your town, and you have a life, and the stalker doesn't... :-) Judy was correct. You continue to avoid the subject. Not surprising ofcourse, subject closed.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: Okay, this is old school. Is is the way verifications should be done. Do you think Nab will have the courage to admit his error. Let's see what the future posts hold. Tip of the hat to you, John Manning. Nabby will do exactly the same thing he did after claiming that sandiego108 couldn't *possibly* be Jim Flanegin, and then finding out that it was. He'll pretend he never said anything... This is what a TM TB calls the truth. Speaking of the truth, I'm unable to find anywhere that Nabby made any claims as to whether the phrase angels and gods appears in SBAL. Can you please quote what I seem to have missed? Actually I made a comment challenging Edg to provide a reference to angelsgods knowing he would be unable to. That someone else found them is a different thing altogether. But you never made a *claim*. And you acknowledged you couldn't be sure since you hadn't read SBAL in some years. So as usual, we see Barry creating his very own facts at the same time he's berating a TMer for doing so when the TMer did no such thing. Plus which, he was wrong about you not being willing to acknowledge that the phrase did appear (once) in SBAL. Do you think we'll see an acknowledgment from Barry that (a) he misstated what you said and (b) he was wrong that you wouldn't acknowledge the facts? Of course not. He will simply follow his favorite strategy he projects onto others: He'll pretend he never said anything...
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM
Where, exactly, does Maharishi say anything about angels and gods in SBAL? Nabby wrote: Quite a few years have gone by since I read SBAL, but since Edg himself is quoting from there it must be correct. Maybe so, but I've got SBAL right here on my desk and I can't find in it anywhere that Maharishi talks about angels and gods. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where, exactly, does Maharishi say anything about angels and gods in SBAL? Nabby wrote: Quite a few years have gone by since I read SBAL, but since Edg himself is quoting from there it must be correct. Maybe so, but I've got SBAL right here on my desk and I can't find in it anywhere that Maharishi talks about angels and gods. Go figure. That's what I thought too... ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM
Guess you're going to have to actually read it to find the concepts of angels and gods therein -- I promise you it's in there. I had it in my hands when I confronted Stan Crowe -- had it yellow highlighted. It's not like Maharishi made a big deal about it -- he wasn't pushing it, but it was in there -- perhaps as an aside thought. I don't have a copy with me, and I'm not going to buy one, so you'll have to read the whole thing and report back to us if you want to score a point. Why the squabble? We all know how religious the movement has always been -- usually covert but always there. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where, exactly, does Maharishi say anything about angels and gods in SBAL? Nabby wrote: Quite a few years have gone by since I read SBAL, but since Edg himself is quoting from there it must be correct. Maybe so, but I've got SBAL right here on my desk and I can't find in it anywhere that Maharishi talks about angels and gods. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guess you're going to have to actually read it to find the concepts of angels and gods therein -- I promise you it's in there. I had it in my hands when I confronted Stan Crowe -- had it yellow highlighted. The Science of Being and Art of Living: Transcendental Meditation - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi FROM the Paperback edition (1994) 1. on Page 208: ... Had it been only good, one would have been in the world of angels where there is no suffering and where dwells only happiness and joy. In man's life, however, one finds happiness and ... 2. on Page 233: ... In the radiance of his relative life, the Absolute finds in him an expression of its Being. Angels and gods enjoy his being on earth, and the earth and heavens enjoy the existence of the ... 3. on Page 254: ... the egg-born, the water-born, the animal kingdom, and rises to the world of angels. Ultimately, on the top level of evolution, is He whose power is unlimited, whose joyfulness is unlimited, whose intelligence and ... [at Amazon.com] Do a search for angels here: http://tinyurl.com/2tewbj Do a search for God and you'll get *dozens* of references.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM
Okay, this is old school. Is is the way verifications should be done. Do you think Nab will have the courage to admit his error. Let's see what the future posts hold. Tip of the hat to you, John Manning. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Guess you're going to have to actually read it to find the concepts of angels and gods therein -- I promise you it's in there. I had it in my hands when I confronted Stan Crowe -- had it yellow highlighted. The Science of Being and Art of Living: Transcendental Meditation - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi FROM the Paperback edition (1994) 1. on Page 208: ... Had it been only good, one would have been in the world of angels where there is no suffering and where dwells only happiness and joy. In man's life, however, one finds happiness and ... 2. on Page 233: ... In the radiance of his relative life, the Absolute finds in him an expression of its Being. Angels and gods enjoy his being on earth, and the earth and heavens enjoy the existence of the ... 3. on Page 254: ... the egg-born, the water-born, the animal kingdom, and rises to the world of angels. Ultimately, on the top level of evolution, is He whose power is unlimited, whose joyfulness is unlimited, whose intelligence and ... [at Amazon.com] Do a search for angels here: http://tinyurl.com/2tewbj Do a search for God and you'll get *dozens* of references.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, this is old school. Is is the way verifications should be done. Do you think Nab will have the courage to admit his error. Let's see what the future posts hold. Tip of the hat to you, John Manning. Nabby will do exactly the same thing he did after claiming that sandiego108 couldn't *possibly* be Jim Flanegin, and then finding out that it was. He'll pretend he never said anything... This is what a TM TB calls the truth. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Guess you're going to have to actually read it to find the concepts of angels and gods therein -- I promise you it's in there. I had it in my hands when I confronted Stan Crowe -- had it yellow highlighted. The Science of Being and Art of Living: Transcendental Meditation - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi FROM the Paperback edition (1994) 1. on Page 208: ... Had it been only good, one would have been in the world of angels where there is no suffering and where dwells only happiness and joy. In man's life, however, one finds happiness and ... 2. on Page 233: ... In the radiance of his relative life, the Absolute finds in him an expression of its Being. Angels and gods enjoy his being on earth, and the earth and heavens enjoy the existence of the ... 3. on Page 254: ... the egg-born, the water-born, the animal kingdom, and rises to the world of angels. Ultimately, on the top level of evolution, is He whose power is unlimited, whose joyfulness is unlimited, whose intelligence and ... [at Amazon.com] Do a search for angels here: http://tinyurl.com/2tewbj Do a search for God and you'll get *dozens* of references.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Behalf Of Duveyoung Guess you're going to have to actually read it to find the concepts of angels and gods therein -- I promise you it's in there. I had it in my hands when I confronted Stan Crowe -- had it yellow highlighted. Found on Amazon.com: For the record, while there are three references to angels, there is only one to gods, plural. All the rest are to God, singular, capitalized, and many of these are in phrases such as God consciousness and God realization--i.e., enlightenment.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: Okay, this is old school. Is is the way verifications should be done. Do you think Nab will have the courage to admit his error. Let's see what the future posts hold. Tip of the hat to you, John Manning. Nabby will do exactly the same thing he did after claiming that sandiego108 couldn't *possibly* be Jim Flanegin, and then finding out that it was. He'll pretend he never said anything... This is what a TM TB calls the truth. Speaking of the truth, I'm unable to find anywhere that Nabby made any claims as to whether the phrase angels and gods appears in SBAL. Can you please quote what I seem to have missed?
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM
I'm still not 100% convinced that sandiego is Jim but his latest very interesting posts indicate he is. Unfortunately he is not posting as regularily as before. He probably finds the atmosphere here rather childish. Yeah that sounds right. We are all too childish for Jim. You are having quite a Sunday aren't ya Nabby? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: Okay, this is old school. Is is the way verifications should be done. Do you think Nab will have the courage to admit his error. Let's see what the future posts hold. Tip of the hat to you, John Manning. Nabby will do exactly the same thing he did after claiming that sandiego108 couldn't *possibly* be Jim Flanegin, and then finding out that it was. He'll pretend he never said anything... This is what a TM TB calls the truth. My mistake, sorry. Contrary to one certain Mr. Barry Wright, or Mr. Right personified, aka the Turq, I have no problem admitting mistakes. I'm still not 100% convinced that sandiego is Jim but his latest very interesting posts indicate he is. Unfortunately he is not posting as regularily as before. He probably finds the atmosphere here rather childish.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM
authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking of the truth, I'm unable to find anywhere that Nabby made any claims as to whether the phrase angels and gods appears in SBAL. Can you please quote what I seem to have missed? He (and a couple others I believe) found it necessary to disparage Edg for his recollection of angels, and gods, or god in the SBAE implying that his recollection was faulty, or false. At least that was the impression I got.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM
Judy, Knob merely insinuates, as a personal attack on me, but between the lines in Message #162935 he seems openly derisive such that my reports about the SBAL must necessarily be erroneous or disinformantionally skewed. You know, his typical slander-tool. Knob said: Quite a few years have gone by since I read SBAL, but since Edg himself is quoting from there it must be correct. He could easily have thrown in some devils also. And the End of the World and references to spiritual vampires for sure. ;-) My immediate comment: I would have and have used the word demons not devils; 2012 scenarios et al are certainly not topics that I have written about; and, Yes, I do think I've used the term spiritual vampires -- trolls like Knob are exactly such. What else to call someone who tries to suck the positive energy out of a person by attacking one's character instead of gently supporting whatever positivity is present in a post and helping the person focus on that aspect? Knob, have you ever changed a kid's poopy diaper? Do you rant at the kid for being a stinky problem inconsiderate pooper or rave about his excellent healthy action? The mistakes I make are many, but attacking a person only makes it that much harder to ever obtain harmony in any sphere. I seldom have the courage but turning the other cheek yields enormous profits. And, yeah, I called him Knob -- so I cannot brag about being pure in this regard. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: Okay, this is old school. Is is the way verifications should be done. Do you think Nab will have the courage to admit his error. Let's see what the future posts hold. Tip of the hat to you, John Manning. Nabby will do exactly the same thing he did after claiming that sandiego108 couldn't *possibly* be Jim Flanegin, and then finding out that it was. He'll pretend he never said anything... This is what a TM TB calls the truth. Speaking of the truth, I'm unable to find anywhere that Nabby made any claims as to whether the phrase angels and gods appears in SBAL. Can you please quote what I seem to have missed?
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM
Oops, I meant to say: 2012 scenarios et al are certainly not topics that ONLY I have written about; Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judy, Knob merely insinuates, as a personal attack on me, but between the lines in Message #162935 he seems openly derisive such that my reports about the SBAL must necessarily be erroneous or disinformantionally skewed. You know, his typical slander-tool. Knob said: Quite a few years have gone by since I read SBAL, but since Edg himself is quoting from there it must be correct. He could easily have thrown in some devils also. And the End of the World and references to spiritual vampires for sure. ;-) My immediate comment: I would have and have used the word demons not devils; 2012 scenarios et al are certainly not topics that I have written about; and, Yes, I do think I've used the term spiritual vampires -- trolls like Knob are exactly such. What else to call someone who tries to suck the positive energy out of a person by attacking one's character instead of gently supporting whatever positivity is present in a post and helping the person focus on that aspect? Knob, have you ever changed a kid's poopy diaper? Do you rant at the kid for being a stinky problem inconsiderate pooper or rave about his excellent healthy action? The mistakes I make are many, but attacking a person only makes it that much harder to ever obtain harmony in any sphere. I seldom have the courage but turning the other cheek yields enormous profits. And, yeah, I called him Knob -- so I cannot brag about being pure in this regard. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: Okay, this is old school. Is is the way verifications should be done. Do you think Nab will have the courage to admit his error. Let's see what the future posts hold. Tip of the hat to you, John Manning. Nabby will do exactly the same thing he did after claiming that sandiego108 couldn't *possibly* be Jim Flanegin, and then finding out that it was. He'll pretend he never said anything... This is what a TM TB calls the truth. Speaking of the truth, I'm unable to find anywhere that Nabby made any claims as to whether the phrase angels and gods appears in SBAL. Can you please quote what I seem to have missed?
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: Okay, this is old school. Is is the way verifications should be done. Do you think Nab will have the courage to admit his error. Let's see what the future posts hold. Tip of the hat to you, John Manning. Nabby will do exactly the same thing he did after claiming that sandiego108 couldn't *possibly* be Jim Flanegin, and then finding out that it was. He'll pretend he never said anything... This is what a TM TB calls the truth. Speaking of the truth, I'm unable to find anywhere that Nabby made any claims as to whether the phrase angels and gods appears in SBAL. Can you please quote what I seem to have missed? Actually I made a comment challenging Edg to provide a reference to angelsgods knowing he would be unable to. That someone else found them is a different thing altogether.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM
In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For the record, while there are three references to angels, there is only one to gods, plural. All the rest are to God, singular, capitalized, and many of these are in phrases such as God consciousness and God realization--i.e., enlightenment. Close enough for government work
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: Okay, this is old school. Is is the way verifications should be done. Do you think Nab will have the courage to admit his error. Let's see what the future posts hold. Tip of the hat to you, John Manning. Nabby will do exactly the same thing he did after claiming that sandiego108 couldn't *possibly* be Jim Flanegin, and then finding out that it was. He'll pretend he never said anything... This is what a TM TB calls the truth. My mistake, sorry. Contrary to one certain Mr. Barry Wright, or Mr. Right personified, aka the Turq, I have no problem admitting mistakes. I'm still not 100% convinced that sandiego is Jim but his latest very interesting posts indicate he is. Unfortunately he is not posting as regularily as before. He probably finds the atmosphere here rather childish.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM
Judy wrote: For the record, while there are three references to angels, there is only one to gods, plural. All the rest are to God, singular, capitalized, and many of these are in phrases such as God consciousness and God realization--i.e., enlightenment. So, it has been established that Maharishi doesn't actually talk about the gods in SBAL, except in one single instance refering to gods, plural. Maharishi doesn't actualy name any of the gods and he doesn't seem to talk much about any angels either. Would there be any angels in Hinduism to talk about, in any case? But I wonder why Maharishi didn't mention the yakshis or the asparsas in SBAL. Which just goes to prove that, contrary to what Edg implied, Maharishi didn't talk much about religion, gods, angels or demons when he composed SBAL.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Lynch has been conspicuously unmanifest at TMO activities since the Berlin Raja fiasco last Fall. David Lynch, are you out there ? Thank you for your dedication to students through your leadership in funding teaching TM widely to students. The simple instruction of TM is a universally good thing. Might you direct a new secular TM instruction organization? TM's simplicity and universality are compromised by the overtly religious TMO of 2008. Association with the current religious TMO makes the TM technique vastly irrelevant to the larger world. The inevitable partisan orientation of religious organizations makes the wide-scale teaching of TM highly unlikely as long as it is associated with the current overtly religious TMO. The timing is right for a return to the secular presentation of TM. There are tens of thousands of TM teachers worldwide who might re-dedicate their coming retirement years to teaching secular TM again, as it was taught until 1975. Simple TM am pm, with an occasional residence course... no products no yagyas..etc. What do you think ? What a great idea! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=F4wh_mc8hRE
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 mainstream20016 wrote: David Lynch has been conspicuously unmanifest at TMO activities since the Berlin Raja fiasco last Fall. Dear David; David Lynch, are you out there ? Thank you for your dedication to students through your leadership in funding teaching TM widely to students. The simple instruction of TM is a universally good thing. Might you direct a new secular TM instruction organization? TM's simplicity and universality are compromised by the overtly religious TMO of 2008. Association with the current religious TMO makes the TM technique vastly irrelevant to the larger world. The inevitable partisan orientation of religious organizations makes the wide-scale teaching of TM highly unlikely as long as it is associated with the current overtly religious TMO. The timing is right for a return to the secular presentation of TM. There are tens of thousands of TM teachers worldwide who might re-dedicate their coming retirement years to teaching secular TM again, as it was taught until 1975. Simple TM am pm, with an occasional residence course... no products no yagyas..etc. What do you think ? Good observation Mainstream. Separation along secular/non-secular TM lines has already happened. Most of the TMmovement has already stepped away. That is past-tense. Proly too early for coalescence of a secular side from inside while Maharishi is still alive unless he initiates it. Seems the old rascal is not, going instead ahead installing a discipline in his own way. There will be an organizational free-er hand to re-state it once he is gone. There is a practicality in that. The secular teaching of the universal parts has already gone on filling the need of its own, independent of brand or the liability of association with the nuttiness of the TMorganization or its moral shortcomings of finances or behaviors. Do a google search for 'centering prayer meditation'. Lot of that has come out of TM, from former TM teachers and practitioners. That is history. The TM branding has become its own liability now making it irrelevant, as you say. Sort of like in a same category as Scientology. I don't know much about Scientology but from what I do know, I wouldn't put TM in the same category only because Scientology for all their controversy seems to be successful despite itself. Can't say the same for the TMO which has been on a downward spiral since blowing its incredible success up to 1977 by coming out with the Flying Technique in the manner that it did (a great, great technique but publicized by MMY and the TMO in a completely immoral and deceitful manner). Although I agree with everything else in your post, I would put the current TMO not in the same category as Scientology but, rather, the same category as Yogananda's organisation. In their day, they were the TM of the moment (the way TM was in the '70s), so by the time TM came along the Self-Realization Fellowship folks were just a few little old ladies sitting around sipping tea. Well, that's what we've become now: irrelevant little old ladies and wimpy men sitting around telling ourselves how wonderful TM and MMY is and the only ones listening to us is ourselves. Sad. Two recent FFL posts with links come to mind as examples of how it has gone: http://www.thequietpath.org/# http://www.introtomeditation.com/schedule.html David Lynch is quite a utopian living in the world and could possibly see meditation secularized on merit. Some of them inside probably do think about it. I know they do. It takes quite a lot of courage though to go outside of the mainstream 'devotion' patterns of inside TMmovement when you've been there so close for so long. Good letter though. I hope you'll get a response from him. I'm certain it would be deeply thoughtful in the way that he has been. Jai Guru Dev, -Doug in FF --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=F4wh_mc8hRE
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: For the record, while there are three references to angels, there is only one to gods, plural. All the rest are to God, singular, capitalized, and many of these are in phrases such as God consciousness and God realization--i.e., enlightenment. Close enough for government work Don't think so, in context. Remember, this first came up when Edg recounted bringing SBAL to his intro lecture and demanding of the teacher what were all these gods and angels MMY was talking about--and he said he had the phrases highlighted. If he had been worried about God being mentioned, he'd have had to highlight most of the book, and his question would have been different--e.g., Why is MMY always talking about God if TM is secular? Basically, people can talk about God without necessarily speaking from a sectarian religious perspective; but if they're talking about gods and angels, that's less likely, especially in the West. I'll bet Edg's concern was more that MMY was promoting Hinduism than that he was talking about God. I mean, we all know SBAL is full of talk about God, so digging up all the references to God didn't really prove anything that was actually in contention.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: Okay, this is old school. Is is the way verifications should be done. Do you think Nab will have the courage to admit his error. Let's see what the future posts hold. Tip of the hat to you, John Manning. Nabby will do exactly the same thing he did after claiming that sandiego108 couldn't *possibly* be Jim Flanegin, and then finding out that it was. He'll pretend he never said anything... This is what a TM TB calls the truth. Speaking of the truth, I'm unable to find anywhere that Nabby made any claims as to whether the phrase angels and gods appears in SBAL. Can you please quote what I seem to have missed? Actually I made a comment challenging Edg to provide a reference to angelsgods knowing he would be unable to. That someone else found them is a different thing altogether. But you never made a *claim*. And you acknowledged you couldn't be sure since you hadn't read SBAL in some years. So as usual, we see Barry creating his very own facts at the same time he's berating a TMer for doing so when the TMer did no such thing. Plus which, he was wrong about you not being willing to acknowledge that the phrase did appear (once) in SBAL. Do you think we'll see an acknowledgment from Barry that (a) he misstated what you said and (b) he was wrong that you wouldn't acknowledge the facts?
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 mainstream20016 wrote: David Lynch has been conspicuously unmanifest at TMO activities since the Berlin Raja fiasco last Fall. Dear David; David Lynch, are you out there ? Thank you for your dedication to students through your leadership in funding teaching TM widely to students. The simple instruction of TM is a universally good thing. Might you direct a new secular TM instruction organization? TM's simplicity and universality are compromised by the overtly religious TMO of 2008. Association with the current religious TMO makes the TM technique vastly irrelevant to the larger world. The inevitable partisan orientation of religious organizations makes the wide-scale teaching of TM highly unlikely as long as it is associated with the current overtly religious TMO. The timing is right for a return to the secular presentation of TM. There are tens of thousands of TM teachers worldwide who might re-dedicate their coming retirement years to teaching secular TM again, as it was taught until 1975. Simple TM am pm, with an occasional residence course... no products no yagyas..etc. What do you think ? Good observation Mainstream. Separation along secular/non-secular TM lines has already happened. Most of the TMmovement has already stepped away. That is past-tense. Proly too early for coalescence of a secular side from inside while Maharishi is still alive unless he initiates it. Seems the old rascal is not, going instead ahead installing a discipline in his own way. There will be an organizational free-er hand to re-state it once he is gone. There is a practicality in that. The secular teaching of the universal parts has already gone on filling the need of its own, independent of brand or the liability of association with the nuttiness of the TMorganization or its moral shortcomings of finances or behaviors. Do a google search for 'centering prayer meditation'. Lot of that has come out of TM, from former TM teachers and practitioners. That is history. The TM branding has become its own liability now making it irrelevant, as you say. Sort of like in a same category as Scientology. Two recent FFL posts with links come to mind as examples of how it has gone: http://www.thequietpath.org/# http://www.introtomeditation.com/schedule.html David Lynch is quite a utopian living in the world and could possibly see meditation secularized on merit. Some of them inside probably do think about it. I know they do. It takes quite a lot of courage though to go outside of the mainstream 'devotion' patterns of inside TMmovement when you've been there so close for so long. Good letter though. I hope you'll get a response from him. I'm certain it would be deeply thoughtful in the way that he has been. Jai Guru Dev, -Doug in FF --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=F4wh_mc8hRE
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 mainstream20016 wrote: Good letter though. I hope you'll get a response from him. I'm certain it would be deeply thoughtful in the way that he has been. Jai Guru Dev, -Doug in FF DL is much to sane to respond to such nutters. :-)
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David Lynch's sanity informs his judgement which fortunately mitigates the extent that he is embarrassed by the TMO. He has courage to promote TM, but he is no fool. His absence from the recent transition meetings in Vlodrop gives me hope in that regard. The degree that TM will make any contribution on a large scale in the coming decade is largely dependent upon his ability to rescue the TM technique from its irrelevancy at the hands of the overtly religious TMO. I ask much of him - that he do all he can to make secular TM instruction available to as many as possible. A new organization with only the faintest association with the current TMO will be necessary for the task at hand. Personal correspondence from him in response to my request is the least of my desires. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 mainstream20016 wrote: Good letter though. I hope you'll get a response from him. I'm certain it would be deeply thoughtful in the way that he has been. Jai Guru Dev, -Doug in FF DL is much to sane to respond to such nutters. :-)
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Dear David Lynch, Please don't listen to the below entreaties. Stick to your day job, but, hey, if'n ya jest gotta do this, consider this concept: Get someone who doesn't look like death warmed over to represent the new wave of TM -- you're scaring toddlers out there: scroll to the bottom of this page: http://tinyurl.com/2teqr9 Yeah, I'm no fan of your wares that offer entertainments to our common weal that are saturated with the psychic toe-jam found in the dark corners of panicked minds. No wonder you look so haggard if you spend all your time spotlighting the ichor and effluvia of diseased personalities. In anything you've created, gotta ask ya, where's the pure sweetness of angels that TM says is our birthright? I must have been absent the day they covered how to nuture one's sweetness in my teacher training course, and, yep, now I'm as crabby as a centipede with ingrown toenails despite my three decades of four hours a day program. You too? I shudder to imagine what your tarred hands might do when handling the white-on-white utopianism-pap that the TMO has used as its first foot in the doors of unsuspecting minds. No matter how TM gets reformatted, the Wayback Machine http://www.archive.org/index.php will always have copies of TMO Web pages showing millionaires in jammies wearing tiaras while somberly posing as TM's priestly caste -- with beards that could have whole colonies of small birds inside them. I went to my first TM lecture and bothered the speaker, Stan Crowe, because I had read the Science of Being and the Art of Living and asked him about the angels and gods being touted by Maharishi -- he had to do a fast shuffle and slough me off and depended upon my naivety and good nature to not get testy with him as he struggled to portray TM as secular. I'm telling you, David, there is no way in any future history that TM will be revived without a gang of Christians picketing the lectures with large placards of our Cabal of Goofyassed Millionaires and asking a zillion questions about the mantra, pujas, gods, rajas, Girish, etc. Only a completely new skin will do for this ancient wine, and that means that all that the TMO has done must be simply abandoned. Bill Paxton as Hudson said it first: Game over man... Game over! No matter, it was a pack of lies mostly -- TM has never delivered anything that anyone ever was promised by the marketing blurbs. For GAWD's sake just examine the minds of the wrecks that have ended up at Rick's party here -- where's the bliss? David, you're one step away from being another joke of BigMedia like Tom Cruise if you promote this crap -- you're besmirching your hard won authenticity's coattails. I hope I've been ugly and dark and twisted enough in this memo to get you to read to the end of it. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 mainstream20016 wrote: David Lynch has been conspicuously unmanifest at TMO activities since the Berlin Raja fiasco last Fall. Dear David; David Lynch, are you out there ? Thank you for your dedication to students through your leadership in funding teaching TM widely to students. The simple instruction of TM is a universally good thing. Might you direct a new secular TM instruction organization? TM's simplicity and universality are compromised by the overtly religious TMO of 2008. Association with the current religious TMO makes the TM technique vastly irrelevant to the larger world. The inevitable partisan orientation of religious organizations makes the wide-scale teaching of TM highly unlikely as long as it is associated with the current overtly religious TMO. The timing is right for a return to the secular presentation of TM. There are tens of thousands of TM teachers worldwide who might re-dedicate their coming retirement years to teaching secular TM again, as it was taught until 1975. Simple TM am pm, with an occasional residence course... no products no yagyas..etc. What do you think ? Good observation Mainstream. Separation along secular/non-secular TM lines has already happened. Most of the TMmovement has already stepped away. That is past-tense. Proly too early for coalescence of a secular side from inside while Maharishi is still alive unless he initiates it. Seems the old rascal is not, going instead ahead installing a discipline in his own way. There will be an organizational free-er hand to re-state it once he is gone. There is a practicality in that. The secular teaching of the universal parts has already gone on filling the need of its own, independent of brand or the liability of association with the nuttiness of the TMorganization or its moral shortcomings of finances or behaviors. Do a google search for 'centering prayer meditation'. Lot of that has
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Now this is what I like about Saturdays. I get to read these good posts in their entirety. Good reading, good tea, two kids building a snowman in the front yard. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear David Lynch, Please don't listen to the below entreaties. Stick to your day job, but, hey, if'n ya jest gotta do this, consider this concept: Get someone who doesn't look like death warmed over to represent the new wave of TM -- you're scaring toddlers out there: scroll to the bottom of this page: http://tinyurl.com/2teqr9 Yeah, I'm no fan of your wares that offer entertainments to our common weal that are saturated with the psychic toe-jam found in the dark corners of panicked minds. No wonder you look so haggard if you spend all your time spotlighting the ichor and effluvia of diseased personalities. In anything you've created, gotta ask ya, where's the pure sweetness of angels that TM says is our birthright? I must have been absent the day they covered how to nuture one's sweetness in my teacher training course, and, yep, now I'm as crabby as a centipede with ingrown toenails despite my three decades of four hours a day program. You too? I shudder to imagine what your tarred hands might do when handling the white-on-white utopianism-pap that the TMO has used as its first foot in the doors of unsuspecting minds. No matter how TM gets reformatted, the Wayback Machine http://www.archive.org/index.php will always have copies of TMO Web pages showing millionaires in jammies wearing tiaras while somberly posing as TM's priestly caste -- with beards that could have whole colonies of small birds inside them. I went to my first TM lecture and bothered the speaker, Stan Crowe, because I had read the Science of Being and the Art of Living and asked him about the angels and gods being touted by Maharishi -- he had to do a fast shuffle and slough me off and depended upon my naivety and good nature to not get testy with him as he struggled to portray TM as secular. I'm telling you, David, there is no way in any future history that TM will be revived without a gang of Christians picketing the lectures with large placards of our Cabal of Goofyassed Millionaires and asking a zillion questions about the mantra, pujas, gods, rajas, Girish, etc. Only a completely new skin will do for this ancient wine, and that means that all that the TMO has done must be simply abandoned. Bill Paxton as Hudson said it first: Game over man... Game over! No matter, it was a pack of lies mostly -- TM has never delivered anything that anyone ever was promised by the marketing blurbs. For GAWD's sake just examine the minds of the wrecks that have ended up at Rick's party here -- where's the bliss? David, you're one step away from being another joke of BigMedia like Tom Cruise if you promote this crap -- you're besmirching your hard won authenticity's coattails. I hope I've been ugly and dark and twisted enough in this memo to get you to read to the end of it. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 mainstream20016 wrote: David Lynch has been conspicuously unmanifest at TMO activities since the Berlin Raja fiasco last Fall. Dear David; David Lynch, are you out there ? Thank you for your dedication to students through your leadership in funding teaching TM widely to students. The simple instruction of TM is a universally good thing. Might you direct a new secular TM instruction organization? TM's simplicity and universality are compromised by the overtly religious TMO of 2008. Association with the current religious TMO makes the TM technique vastly irrelevant to the larger world. The inevitable partisan orientation of religious organizations makes the wide-scale teaching of TM highly unlikely as long as it is associated with the current overtly religious TMO. The timing is right for a return to the secular presentation of TM. There are tens of thousands of TM teachers worldwide who might re-dedicate their coming retirement years to teaching secular TM again, as it was taught until 1975. Simple TM am pm, with an occasional residence course... no products no yagyas..etc. What do you think ? Good observation Mainstream. Separation along secular/non-secular TM lines has already happened. Most of the TMmovement has already stepped away. That is past-tense. Proly too early for coalescence of a secular side from inside while Maharishi is still alive unless he initiates it. Seems the old rascal is not, going instead ahead installing a discipline in his own way. There will be an organizational free-er hand to re-state it once he is gone. There is a practicality in that. The secular teaching of the universal parts has already gone on filling
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: His absence from the recent transition meetings in Vlodrop gives me hope in that regard. It was a conference for the Rajas - DL was not supposed to be there though he appeared on the conferencephone. But you were too drunk to notice...?
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too busy to see or hear it all - what did he say ? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 mainstream20016@ wrote: His absence from the recent transition meetings in Vlodrop gives me hope in that regard. It was a conference for the Rajas - DL was not supposed to be there though he appeared on the conferencephone. But you were too drunk to notice...?
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Careful, Lurk. If you keep liking my stuff, I'll get addicted to your stuff, and then the next thing ya know, we'll be patting each other's backs so often that huge humps of calloused harden skin will form -- you know, like the Curtis and Turq love affair is presently forming on their backs. Nice save Edg, you almost let a ray of sunshine into your pity party. Just what this party needs -- four cavorting QuasiModels who are deaf to the throngs below us as we swing like apes in the bell tower. We don't need David Lynch; we need Mel Brooks to do for the TMO what he did for the Frankenstein tale. Raja to Igor: I've got a mantra that will cure your hump. Igor: What 'ump? Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: Now this is what I like about Saturdays. I get to read these good posts in their entirety. Good reading, good tea, two kids building a snowman in the front yard. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Dear David Lynch, Please don't listen to the below entreaties. Stick to your day job, but, hey, if'n ya jest gotta do this, consider this concept: Get someone who doesn't look like death warmed over to represent the new wave of TM -- you're scaring toddlers out there: scroll to the bottom of this page: http://tinyurl.com/2teqr9 Yeah, I'm no fan of your wares that offer entertainments to our common weal that are saturated with the psychic toe-jam found in the dark corners of panicked minds. No wonder you look so haggard if you spend all your time spotlighting the ichor and effluvia of diseased personalities. In anything you've created, gotta ask ya, where's the pure sweetness of angels that TM says is our birthright? I must have been absent the day they covered how to nuture one's sweetness in my teacher training course, and, yep, now I'm as crabby as a centipede with ingrown toenails despite my three decades of four hours a day program. You too? I shudder to imagine what your tarred hands might do when handling the white-on-white utopianism-pap that the TMO has used as its first foot in the doors of unsuspecting minds. No matter how TM gets reformatted, the Wayback Machine http://www.archive.org/index.php will always have copies of TMO Web pages showing millionaires in jammies wearing tiaras while somberly posing as TM's priestly caste -- with beards that could have whole colonies of small birds inside them. I went to my first TM lecture and bothered the speaker, Stan Crowe, because I had read the Science of Being and the Art of Living and asked him about the angels and gods being touted by Maharishi -- he had to do a fast shuffle and slough me off and depended upon my naivety and good nature to not get testy with him as he struggled to portray TM as secular. I'm telling you, David, there is no way in any future history that TM will be revived without a gang of Christians picketing the lectures with large placards of our Cabal of Goofyassed Millionaires and asking a zillion questions about the mantra, pujas, gods, rajas, Girish, etc. Only a completely new skin will do for this ancient wine, and that means that all that the TMO has done must be simply abandoned. Bill Paxton as Hudson said it first: Game over man... Game over! No matter, it was a pack of lies mostly -- TM has never delivered anything that anyone ever was promised by the marketing blurbs. For GAWD's sake just examine the minds of the wrecks that have ended up at Rick's party here -- where's the bliss? David, you're one step away from being another joke of BigMedia like Tom Cruise if you promote this crap -- you're besmirching your hard won authenticity's coattails. I hope I've been ugly and dark and twisted enough in this memo to get you to read to the end of it. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 mainstream20016 wrote: David Lynch has been conspicuously unmanifest at TMO activities since the Berlin Raja fiasco last Fall. Dear David; David Lynch, are you out there ? Thank you for your dedication to students through your leadership in funding teaching TM widely to students. The simple instruction of TM is a universally good thing. Might you direct a new secular TM instruction organization? TM's simplicity and universality are compromised by the overtly religious TMO of 2008. Association with the current religious TMO makes the TM technique vastly irrelevant to the larger world. The inevitable partisan orientation of religious organizations makes the wide-scale
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Duveyoung wrote: I had read the Science of Being and the Art of Living and asked him about the angels and gods being touted by Maharishi Where, exactly, does Maharishi say anything about angels and gods in SBAL? I hope I've been ugly and dark and twisted enough in this memo to get you to read to the end of it. Very impressive, but what's your point? Quite a few years have gone by since I read SBAL, but since Edg himself is quoting from there it must be correct. He could easily have thrown in some devils also. And the End of the World and references to spiritual vampires for sure. ;-)
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Lynch has been conspicuously unmanifest at TMO activities since the Berlin Raja fiasco last Fall Not so. . David Lynch, are you out there ? Thank you for your dedication to students through your leadership in funding teaching TM widely to students. The simple instruction of TM is a universally good thing. Might you direct a new secular TM instruction organization? Dr Lynch is fully devoted to the teacher and his total vision of the of the Vedic knowledge and understands the reality of the aphorism 'na gaur adhikam nothing greater than the Guru. Its good to live in a full appreciation of the present and not be stuck on some nostalgic idea of the past. Jai Guru Dev TM's simplicity and universality are compromised by the overtly religious TMO of 2008. Association with the current religious TMO makes the TM technique vastly irrelevant to the larger world. The inevitable partisan orientation of religious organizations makes the wide-scale teaching of TM highly unlikely as long as it is associated with the current overtly religious TMO. The timing is right for a return to the secular presentation of TM. There are tens of thousands of TM teachers worldwide who might re-dedicate their coming retirement years to teaching secular TM again, as it was taught until 1975. Simple TM am pm, with an occasional residence course... no products no yagyas..etc. What do you think ? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=F4wh_mc8hRE
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 mainstream20016@ wrote: David Lynch has been conspicuously unmanifest at TMO activities since the Berlin Raja fiasco last Fall Not so. To what degree ?? He is virtually absent from the on-going marathon, now 70-plus days and running, recently characterized as the most auspicious time in movement history . David Lynch, are you out there ? Thank you for your dedication to students through your leadership in funding teaching TM widely to students. The simple instruction of TM is a universally good thing. Might you direct a new secular TM instruction organization? Dr Lynch is fully devoted to the teacher and his total vision of the of the Vedic knowledge and understands the reality of the aphorism 'na gaur adhikam nothing greater than the Guru. Its good to live in a full appreciation of the present and not be stuck on some nostalgic idea of the past. Jai Guru Dev 'Dr' Lynch !!! Pomposity bestowed upon truly self-sufficient persons is certainly sloughed off. David's too classy to disappoint TMers who get such a thrill addressing their fellow- TM brethren as 'Dr' this or that, but the 'Dr' Lynch thing will fade from use soon. Regarding the aphorism 'na gaur adhikam' - thanks for the insight - please fill us in on the latest complete version of expressing adoration for Guru Dev- with translation, if you might... Regarding whether it is good to live in the full appreciation of the present and not stuck on some nostalgic idea of the past - excuse me - the irrelevancy of the TMO in its present overtly religious state is appalling in my view. The ever-dwindling number of 'insiders' who vainly reassure each other of their importance have deviated widely from their pledged responsibility, as the resultant obscurity of the TM program banishes billions of lives to prolonged suffering. TM's simplicity and universality are compromised by the overtly religious TMO of 2008. Association with the current religious TMO makes the TM technique vastly irrelevant to the larger world. The inevitable partisan orientation of religious organizations makes the wide-scale teaching of TM highly unlikely as long as it is associated with the current overtly religious TMO. The timing is right for a return to the secular presentation of TM. There are tens of thousands of TM teachers worldwide who might re-dedicate their coming retirement years to teaching secular TM again, as it was taught until 1975. Simple TM am pm, with an occasional residence course... no products no yagyas..etc. What do you think ? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=F4wh_mc8hRE
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM
David Lynch has been conspicuously unmanifest at TMO activities since the Berlin Raja fiasco last Fall. David Lynch, are you out there ? Thank you for your dedication to students through your leadership in funding teaching TM widely to students. The simple instruction of TM is a universally good thing. Might you direct a new secular TM instruction organization? TM's simplicity and universality are compromised by the overtly religious TMO of 2008. Association with the current religious TMO makes the TM technique vastly irrelevant to the larger world. The inevitable partisan orientation of religious organizations makes the wide-scale teaching of TM highly unlikely as long as it is associated with the current overtly religious TMO. The timing is right for a return to the secular presentation of TM. There are tens of thousands of TM teachers worldwide who might re-dedicate their coming retirement years to teaching secular TM again, as it was taught until 1975. Simple TM am pm, with an occasional residence course... no products no yagyas..etc. What do you think ? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=F4wh_mc8hRE
