Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dubya's Artworks
John, I wouldn't be surprised if his current girlfriend, Amal Alamuddin is the one. She is also a super star in her field, law, which is not only different than his, but one he can respect. I couldn't find any info on her birthday other than the year. Friends are quoted as saying they expect him to pop the question any day now! On Sunday, April 6, 2014 9:31 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Share, Yes, he does have an exalted Sun. In Bhrigu Nandi Nadi jyotish, it means that his father was very successful. He also has an exalted Venus, which refers to his aunt, since Venus is next to the Sun. His aunt is further a well known musical celebrity herself. In addition, this Venus holds the key for knowing his future wife. She too will be well known and very beautiful. She will be almost like a royalty. So, it appears that George is looking for this lady to marry. If he can't find her, he'll remain a bachelor. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, George Clooney's birthday is May 6, 1961 so right away we know something important: exalted Sun! On Saturday, April 5, 2014 4:29 PM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Share, I'd be interested to look at his jyotish chart. He probably has a yoga for bachelorhood, but not necessarily celebate. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, he has often stated that he never intends to marry. In fact, he broke up with one girlfriend simply because she admitted in an interview that she wanted to marry someday and have children. On Saturday, April 5, 2014 3:33 PM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Share, Now that you've mentioned it, I've always wondered why George Clooney is still single after dating all of those gorgeous women he was associated with in the past. Now, he's got a new girlfriend again. One wonders if he'll ever get married. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, beauty is a fascinating topic from many angles. For example, I can totally see why people say that George Clooney is very handsome, etc. But there are other actors who I find far more attractive. Go figure! On Saturday, April 5, 2014 2:49 PM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Share, As the old saying goes, Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. But I imagine, the artistry lies in combining different colors, along with the shades of dark and light. I remember one painting style which makes the portrait look crystal clear. I don't how it's done. But I appreciate it's because I can't see that clearly without my glasses. :) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, I understand what you're saying. Van Gogh is not one of my favorite artists and it has nothing to do with his mental situation. I am also mystified as to why some artists' works fetch such a high price. OTOH, I walk into an art gallery and immediately find the work that I absolutely love. Though I don't understand my preferences, I trust them. And enjoy... On Saturday, April 5, 2014 1:40 PM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Judy, I'm still puzzled at how these art critics can proclaim the works of Van Gogh to be artistic genius. From what I understand, when he painted his self-portrait, he was already insane. And, if he were alive today, he'd be astonished that his paintings are now valued in millions of dollars. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : I seriously doubt he'll sell them (he might give away a few to friends). The best of them will probably end up in his presidential library for the public to see. In any case, if art collectors were to get hold of them, they'd be valued only as curiosities. They're hardly works of artistic genius. Salyavin, It all depends if he can sell these artworks for millions during his lifetime, and if the art collectors in the future would value them like those of Van Gough and Monet. But I would have to give him credit for expanding his creative talents after leading the US into expensive war campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : George W. Bush has recently displayed his works of art, as shown in the link below. What do you think? He's a better artist than he was a president. http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dubya's Artworks
Share, If George Clooney ever gets married, it is also possible that he'll get involved in politics. This is due to the exalted Sun in his chart. Can you imagine him as the next president of the US? I would bet many of the women votes will go to him if he ever runs for any political office. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, I wouldn't be surprised if his current girlfriend, Amal Alamuddin is the one. She is also a super star in her field, law, which is not only different than his, but one he can respect. I couldn't find any info on her birthday other than the year. Friends are quoted as saying they expect him to pop the question any day now! On Sunday, April 6, 2014 9:31 PM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Share, Yes, he does have an exalted Sun. In Bhrigu Nandi Nadi jyotish, it means that his father was very successful. He also has an exalted Venus, which refers to his aunt, since Venus is next to the Sun. His aunt is further a well known musical celebrity herself. In addition, this Venus holds the key for knowing his future wife. She too will be well known and very beautiful. She will be almost like a royalty. So, it appears that George is looking for this lady to marry. If he can't find her, he'll remain a bachelor. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, George Clooney's birthday is May 6, 1961 so right away we know something important: exalted Sun! On Saturday, April 5, 2014 4:29 PM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Share, I'd be interested to look at his jyotish chart. He probably has a yoga for bachelorhood, but not necessarily celebate. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, he has often stated that he never intends to marry. In fact, he broke up with one girlfriend simply because she admitted in an interview that she wanted to marry someday and have children. On Saturday, April 5, 2014 3:33 PM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Share, Now that you've mentioned it, I've always wondered why George Clooney is still single after dating all of those gorgeous women he was associated with in the past. Now, he's got a new girlfriend again. One wonders if he'll ever get married. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, beauty is a fascinating topic from many angles. For example, I can totally see why people say that George Clooney is very handsome, etc. But there are other actors who I find far more attractive. Go figure! On Saturday, April 5, 2014 2:49 PM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Share, As the old saying goes, Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. But I imagine, the artistry lies in combining different colors, along with the shades of dark and light. I remember one painting style which makes the portrait look crystal clear. I don't how it's done. But I appreciate it's because I can't see that clearly without my glasses. :) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, I understand what you're saying. Van Gogh is not one of my favorite artists and it has nothing to do with his mental situation. I am also mystified as to why some artists' works fetch such a high price. OTOH, I walk into an art gallery and immediately find the work that I absolutely love. Though I don't understand my preferences, I trust them. And enjoy... On Saturday, April 5, 2014 1:40 PM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Judy, I'm still puzzled at how these art critics can proclaim the works of Van Gogh to be artistic genius. From what I understand, when he painted his self-portrait, he was already insane. And, if he were alive today, he'd be astonished that his paintings are now valued in millions of dollars. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : I seriously doubt he'll sell them (he might give away a few to friends). The best of them will probably end up in his presidential library for the public to see. In any case, if art collectors were to get hold of them, they'd be valued only as curiosities. They're hardly works of artistic genius. Salyavin, It all depends if he can sell these artworks for millions during his lifetime, and if the art collectors in the future would value them like those of Van Gough and Monet. But I would have to give him credit for expanding his creative talents after leading the US into expensive war campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : George W. Bush has recently displayed his works of art, as shown in the link below. What do you think? He's a better artist than he was a president. http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/ http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/
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You betcha John, us womenfolks, we base our votes on the important stuff, like how many times George Clooney has been titled sexiest man of the year...or, have I misinterpreted you? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Share, If George Clooney ever gets married, it is also possible that he'll get involved in politics. This is due to the exalted Sun in his chart. Can you imagine him as the next president of the US? I would bet many of the women votes will go to him if he ever runs for any political office. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, I wouldn't be surprised if his current girlfriend, Amal Alamuddin is the one. She is also a super star in her field, law, which is not only different than his, but one he can respect. I couldn't find any info on her birthday other than the year. Friends are quoted as saying they expect him to pop the question any day now! On Sunday, April 6, 2014 9:31 PM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Share, Yes, he does have an exalted Sun. In Bhrigu Nandi Nadi jyotish, it means that his father was very successful. He also has an exalted Venus, which refers to his aunt, since Venus is next to the Sun. His aunt is further a well known musical celebrity herself. In addition, this Venus holds the key for knowing his future wife. She too will be well known and very beautiful. She will be almost like a royalty. So, it appears that George is looking for this lady to marry. If he can't find her, he'll remain a bachelor. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, George Clooney's birthday is May 6, 1961 so right away we know something important: exalted Sun! On Saturday, April 5, 2014 4:29 PM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Share, I'd be interested to look at his jyotish chart. He probably has a yoga for bachelorhood, but not necessarily celebate. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, he has often stated that he never intends to marry. In fact, he broke up with one girlfriend simply because she admitted in an interview that she wanted to marry someday and have children. On Saturday, April 5, 2014 3:33 PM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Share, Now that you've mentioned it, I've always wondered why George Clooney is still single after dating all of those gorgeous women he was associated with in the past. Now, he's got a new girlfriend again. One wonders if he'll ever get married. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, beauty is a fascinating topic from many angles. For example, I can totally see why people say that George Clooney is very handsome, etc. But there are other actors who I find far more attractive. Go figure! On Saturday, April 5, 2014 2:49 PM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Share, As the old saying goes, Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. But I imagine, the artistry lies in combining different colors, along with the shades of dark and light. I remember one painting style which makes the portrait look crystal clear. I don't how it's done. But I appreciate it's because I can't see that clearly without my glasses. :) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, I understand what you're saying. Van Gogh is not one of my favorite artists and it has nothing to do with his mental situation. I am also mystified as to why some artists' works fetch such a high price. OTOH, I walk into an art gallery and immediately find the work that I absolutely love. Though I don't understand my preferences, I trust them. And enjoy... On Saturday, April 5, 2014 1:40 PM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Judy, I'm still puzzled at how these art critics can proclaim the works of Van Gogh to be artistic genius. From what I understand, when he painted his self-portrait, he was already insane. And, if he were alive today, he'd be astonished that his paintings are now valued in millions of dollars. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : I seriously doubt he'll sell them (he might give away a few to friends). The best of them will probably end up in his presidential library for the public to see. In any case, if art collectors were to get hold of them, they'd be valued only as curiosities. They're hardly works of artistic genius. Salyavin, It all depends if he can sell these artworks for millions during his lifetime, and if the art collectors in the future would value them like those of Van Gough and Monet. But I would have to give him credit for expanding his creative talents after leading the US into expensive war campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : George W. Bush has recently displayed his works of art, as shown in the link
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dubya's Artworks
Emily, I'm trying to describe the unusual feature in Clooney's chart in simple terms. In other words, his tenth house, representing his career, is not very strong since Mars, the 10th lord, is placed in the sixth house. Ordinarily, this would mean that this person will have difficulty in having a successful career. However, in Clooney's chart, the lord of the sixth house is the Moon, a feminine planet, which is placed in the 12th house of loss. In jyotish, this means that he has a Viparita Yoga. This means that, despite the weakness of the indicators, it becomes good for him--in fact, the yoga gives him success and money. In other words, the female population (represented by the Moon) will somehow save his career, and even the rest of his enemies will recognize this draw and would follow him. Thus, it results in a victory for him which is essentially the reason why he is so popular right now. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote : You betcha John, us womenfolks, we base our votes on the important stuff, like how many times George Clooney has been titled sexiest man of the year...or, have I misinterpreted you? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Share, If George Clooney ever gets married, it is also possible that he'll get involved in politics. This is due to the exalted Sun in his chart. Can you imagine him as the next president of the US? I would bet many of the women votes will go to him if he ever runs for any political office. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, I wouldn't be surprised if his current girlfriend, Amal Alamuddin is the one. She is also a super star in her field, law, which is not only different than his, but one he can respect. I couldn't find any info on her birthday other than the year. Friends are quoted as saying they expect him to pop the question any day now! On Sunday, April 6, 2014 9:31 PM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Share, Yes, he does have an exalted Sun. In Bhrigu Nandi Nadi jyotish, it means that his father was very successful. He also has an exalted Venus, which refers to his aunt, since Venus is next to the Sun. His aunt is further a well known musical celebrity herself. In addition, this Venus holds the key for knowing his future wife. She too will be well known and very beautiful. She will be almost like a royalty. So, it appears that George is looking for this lady to marry. If he can't find her, he'll remain a bachelor. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, George Clooney's birthday is May 6, 1961 so right away we know something important: exalted Sun! On Saturday, April 5, 2014 4:29 PM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Share, I'd be interested to look at his jyotish chart. He probably has a yoga for bachelorhood, but not necessarily celebate. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, he has often stated that he never intends to marry. In fact, he broke up with one girlfriend simply because she admitted in an interview that she wanted to marry someday and have children. On Saturday, April 5, 2014 3:33 PM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Share, Now that you've mentioned it, I've always wondered why George Clooney is still single after dating all of those gorgeous women he was associated with in the past. Now, he's got a new girlfriend again. One wonders if he'll ever get married. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, beauty is a fascinating topic from many angles. For example, I can totally see why people say that George Clooney is very handsome, etc. But there are other actors who I find far more attractive. Go figure! On Saturday, April 5, 2014 2:49 PM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Share, As the old saying goes, Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. But I imagine, the artistry lies in combining different colors, along with the shades of dark and light. I remember one painting style which makes the portrait look crystal clear. I don't how it's done. But I appreciate it's because I can't see that clearly without my glasses. :) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, I understand what you're saying. Van Gogh is not one of my favorite artists and it has nothing to do with his mental situation. I am also mystified as to why some artists' works fetch such a high price. OTOH, I walk into an art gallery and immediately find the work that I absolutely love. Though I don't understand my preferences, I trust them. And enjoy... On Saturday, April 5, 2014 1:40 PM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Judy, I'm still puzzled at how these art critics can proclaim the works of Van Gogh to be artistic genius. From what I understand, when he painted his self-portrait, he was already insane. And, if he were alive today, he'd
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dubya's Artworks
Well, while it is true that your statement is Greek to me, it does jibe generally with the saying that behind every great man is a great woman. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Emily, I'm trying to describe the unusual feature in Clooney's chart in simple terms. In other words, his tenth house, representing his career, is not very strong since Mars, the 10th lord, is placed in the sixth house. Ordinarily, this would mean that this person will have difficulty in having a successful career. However, in Clooney's chart, the lord of the sixth house is the Moon, a feminine planet, which is placed in the 12th house of loss. In jyotish, this means that he has a Viparita Yoga. This means that, despite the weakness of the indicators, it becomes good for him--in fact, the yoga gives him success and money. In other words, the female population (represented by the Moon) will somehow save his career, and even the rest of his enemies will recognize this draw and would follow him. Thus, it results in a victory for him which is essentially the reason why he is so popular right now. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote : You betcha John, us womenfolks, we base our votes on the important stuff, like how many times George Clooney has been titled sexiest man of the year...or, have I misinterpreted you? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Share, If George Clooney ever gets married, it is also possible that he'll get involved in politics. This is due to the exalted Sun in his chart. Can you imagine him as the next president of the US? I would bet many of the women votes will go to him if he ever runs for any political office. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, I wouldn't be surprised if his current girlfriend, Amal Alamuddin is the one. She is also a super star in her field, law, which is not only different than his, but one he can respect. I couldn't find any info on her birthday other than the year. Friends are quoted as saying they expect him to pop the question any day now! On Sunday, April 6, 2014 9:31 PM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Share, Yes, he does have an exalted Sun. In Bhrigu Nandi Nadi jyotish, it means that his father was very successful. He also has an exalted Venus, which refers to his aunt, since Venus is next to the Sun. His aunt is further a well known musical celebrity herself. In addition, this Venus holds the key for knowing his future wife. She too will be well known and very beautiful. She will be almost like a royalty. So, it appears that George is looking for this lady to marry. If he can't find her, he'll remain a bachelor. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, George Clooney's birthday is May 6, 1961 so right away we know something important: exalted Sun! On Saturday, April 5, 2014 4:29 PM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Share, I'd be interested to look at his jyotish chart. He probably has a yoga for bachelorhood, but not necessarily celebate. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, he has often stated that he never intends to marry. In fact, he broke up with one girlfriend simply because she admitted in an interview that she wanted to marry someday and have children. On Saturday, April 5, 2014 3:33 PM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Share, Now that you've mentioned it, I've always wondered why George Clooney is still single after dating all of those gorgeous women he was associated with in the past. Now, he's got a new girlfriend again. One wonders if he'll ever get married. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, beauty is a fascinating topic from many angles. For example, I can totally see why people say that George Clooney is very handsome, etc. But there are other actors who I find far more attractive. Go figure! On Saturday, April 5, 2014 2:49 PM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Share, As the old saying goes, Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. But I imagine, the artistry lies in combining different colors, along with the shades of dark and light. I remember one painting style which makes the portrait look crystal clear. I don't how it's done. But I appreciate it's because I can't see that clearly without my glasses. :) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, I understand what you're saying. Van Gogh is not one of my favorite artists and it has nothing to do with his mental situation. I am also mystified as to why some artists' works fetch such a high price. OTOH, I walk into an art gallery and immediately find the work that I absolutely love. Though I don't understand my preferences, I trust them. And enjoy... On Saturday, April 5, 2014 1:40 PM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Judy, I'm still puzzled
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John, George Clooney's birthday is May 6, 1961 so right away we know something important: exalted Sun! On Saturday, April 5, 2014 4:29 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Share, I'd be interested to look at his jyotish chart. He probably has a yoga for bachelorhood, but not necessarily celebate. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, he has often stated that he never intends to marry. In fact, he broke up with one girlfriend simply because she admitted in an interview that she wanted to marry someday and have children. On Saturday, April 5, 2014 3:33 PM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Share, Now that you've mentioned it, I've always wondered why George Clooney is still single after dating all of those gorgeous women he was associated with in the past. Now, he's got a new girlfriend again. One wonders if he'll ever get married. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, beauty is a fascinating topic from many angles. For example, I can totally see why people say that George Clooney is very handsome, etc. But there are other actors who I find far more attractive. Go figure! On Saturday, April 5, 2014 2:49 PM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Share, As the old saying goes, Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. But I imagine, the artistry lies in combining different colors, along with the shades of dark and light. I remember one painting style which makes the portrait look crystal clear. I don't how it's done. But I appreciate it's because I can't see that clearly without my glasses. :) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, I understand what you're saying. Van Gogh is not one of my favorite artists and it has nothing to do with his mental situation. I am also mystified as to why some artists' works fetch such a high price. OTOH, I walk into an art gallery and immediately find the work that I absolutely love. Though I don't understand my preferences, I trust them. And enjoy... On Saturday, April 5, 2014 1:40 PM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Judy, I'm still puzzled at how these art critics can proclaim the works of Van Gogh to be artistic genius. From what I understand, when he painted his self-portrait, he was already insane. And, if he were alive today, he'd be astonished that his paintings are now valued in millions of dollars. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : I seriously doubt he'll sell them (he might give away a few to friends). The best of them will probably end up in his presidential library for the public to see. In any case, if art collectors were to get hold of them, they'd be valued only as curiosities. They're hardly works of artistic genius. Salyavin, It all depends if he can sell these artworks for millions during his lifetime, and if the art collectors in the future would value them like those of Van Gough and Monet. But I would have to give him credit for expanding his creative talents after leading the US into expensive war campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : George W. Bush has recently displayed his works of art, as shown in the link below. What do you think? He's a better artist than he was a president. http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/
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Share, Yes, he does have an exalted Sun. In Bhrigu Nandi Nadi jyotish, it means that his father was very successful. He also has an exalted Venus, which refers to his aunt, since Venus is next to the Sun. His aunt is further a well known musical celebrity herself. In addition, this Venus holds the key for knowing his future wife. She too will be well known and very beautiful. She will be almost like a royalty. So, it appears that George is looking for this lady to marry. If he can't find her, he'll remain a bachelor. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, George Clooney's birthday is May 6, 1961 so right away we know something important: exalted Sun! On Saturday, April 5, 2014 4:29 PM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Share, I'd be interested to look at his jyotish chart. He probably has a yoga for bachelorhood, but not necessarily celebate. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, he has often stated that he never intends to marry. In fact, he broke up with one girlfriend simply because she admitted in an interview that she wanted to marry someday and have children. On Saturday, April 5, 2014 3:33 PM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Share, Now that you've mentioned it, I've always wondered why George Clooney is still single after dating all of those gorgeous women he was associated with in the past. Now, he's got a new girlfriend again. One wonders if he'll ever get married. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, beauty is a fascinating topic from many angles. For example, I can totally see why people say that George Clooney is very handsome, etc. But there are other actors who I find far more attractive. Go figure! On Saturday, April 5, 2014 2:49 PM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Share, As the old saying goes, Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. But I imagine, the artistry lies in combining different colors, along with the shades of dark and light. I remember one painting style which makes the portrait look crystal clear. I don't how it's done. But I appreciate it's because I can't see that clearly without my glasses. :) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, I understand what you're saying. Van Gogh is not one of my favorite artists and it has nothing to do with his mental situation. I am also mystified as to why some artists' works fetch such a high price. OTOH, I walk into an art gallery and immediately find the work that I absolutely love. Though I don't understand my preferences, I trust them. And enjoy... On Saturday, April 5, 2014 1:40 PM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Judy, I'm still puzzled at how these art critics can proclaim the works of Van Gogh to be artistic genius. From what I understand, when he painted his self-portrait, he was already insane. And, if he were alive today, he'd be astonished that his paintings are now valued in millions of dollars. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : I seriously doubt he'll sell them (he might give away a few to friends). The best of them will probably end up in his presidential library for the public to see. In any case, if art collectors were to get hold of them, they'd be valued only as curiosities. They're hardly works of artistic genius. Salyavin, It all depends if he can sell these artworks for millions during his lifetime, and if the art collectors in the future would value them like those of Van Gough and Monet. But I would have to give him credit for expanding his creative talents after leading the US into expensive war campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : George W. Bush has recently displayed his works of art, as shown in the link below. What do you think? He's a better artist than he was a president. http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/ http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dubya's Artworks
They'd mostly sell based on the fact that he's a former President, but yeah, far, FAR better than I can do (damning with seriously faint praise). L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : I hate to admit it, but they're not bad, IMHO. He has a good eye, if not a brilliant technique. Interestingly, what seems to me to be the least successful portrait in this series is the one of his father, which barely even resembles him. The best one, I think, is of Blair. It reveals something about Blair that isn't part of his public persona, some profound inner discomfort or insecurity. George W. Bush has recently displayed his works of art, as shown in the link below. What do you think? http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/ http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dubya's Artworks
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : George W. Bush has recently displayed his works of art, as shown in the link below. What do you think? He's a better artist than he was a president. http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/ http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dubya's Artworks
Absolutely. I saw these and was pretty impressed with his talent. I wish he'd never gone into politics. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : George W. Bush has recently displayed his works of art, as shown in the link below. What do you think? He's a better artist than he was a president. http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/ http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/
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Not bad for someone who just took up painting portaits. However, it does look like *painting by numbers* LOL! On Saturday, April 5, 2014 6:50 AM, dmevans...@yahoo.com dmevans...@yahoo.com wrote: Absolutely. I saw these and was pretty impressed with his talent. I wish he'd never gone into politics. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : George W. Bush has recently displayed his works of art, as shown in the link below. What do you think? He's a better artist than he was a president. http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dubya's Artworks
Erm, I was being sarcastic. How about: his talent as a painter is exceeded only by his talent as a foreign diplomat. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dmevans365@... wrote : Absolutely. I saw these and was pretty impressed with his talent. I wish he'd never gone into politics. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : George W. Bush has recently displayed his works of art, as shown in the link below. What do you think? He's a better artist than he was a president. http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/ http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dubya's Artworks
That's funny. I did think they were better than anything he ever did as president. :) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Erm, I was being sarcastic. How about: his talent as a painter is exceeded only by his talent as a foreign diplomat. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dmevans365@... wrote : Absolutely. I saw these and was pretty impressed with his talent. I wish he'd never gone into politics. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : George W. Bush has recently displayed his works of art, as shown in the link below. What do you think? He's a better artist than he was a president. http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/ http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dubya's Artworks
Really ? Looks like the people he did portraits of has serious skin-diseases. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dmevans365@... wrote : Absolutely. I saw these and was pretty impressed with his talent. I wish he'd never gone into politics. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : George W. Bush has recently displayed his works of art, as shown in the link below. What do you think? He's a better artist than he was a president. http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/ http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/
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That's funny too. Hey, I look at those portraits and I recognize their likeness. Personally, I have zero ability in the arena of portraiture. For me, even a paint by numbers canvass would generate something a 5-yr old might do. I am more abstract spatially. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Really ? Looks like the people he did portraits of has serious skin-diseases. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dmevans365@... wrote : Absolutely. I saw these and was pretty impressed with his talent. I wish he'd never gone into politics. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : George W. Bush has recently displayed his works of art, as shown in the link below. What do you think? He's a better artist than he was a president. http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/ http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dubya's Artworks
That isn't a very high bar. ;-) The portraits are better than that. They really are quite good. They're not just likenesses; most of them tell you something about the personalities as Bush perceived them. That's funny. I did think they were better than anything he ever did as president. :) Erm, I was being sarcastic. How about: his talent as a painter is exceeded only by his talent as a foreign diplomat. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dmevans365@... wrote : Absolutely. I saw these and was pretty impressed with his talent. I wish he'd never gone into politics. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : George W. Bush has recently displayed his works of art, as shown in the link below. What do you think? He's a better artist than he was a president. http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/ http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dubya's Artworks
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : That isn't a very high bar. ;-) The portraits are better than that. Yes. He could have pursued a different career. They really are quite good. They're not just likenesses; True. (I'm working on conflict avoidance. Oh dear.) most of them tell you something about the personalities as Bush perceived them. That's funny. I did think they were better than anything he ever did as president. :) Erm, I was being sarcastic. How about: his talent as a painter is exceeded only by his talent as a foreign diplomat. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dmevans365@... wrote : Absolutely. I saw these and was pretty impressed with his talent. I wish he'd never gone into politics. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : George W. Bush has recently displayed his works of art, as shown in the link below. What do you think? He's a better artist than he was a president. http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/ http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/
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He probably should have been an artist and stayed out of the family business. He always seemed uncomfortable trying to play President. On 04/05/2014 05:45 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : George W. Bush has recently displayed his works of art, as shown in the link below. What do you think? He's a better artist than he was a president. http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/
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I'm being too harsh, they are actually pretty good insights. The one of Blair makes him look like a vampire, so Bush must have known him really well. A lot of the pictures give you a sense of the humour and kindness of the people, especially the easterners. Not bad. I'd let him do one of me. But the one of Putin, is that scary or what? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote : That's funny too. Hey, I look at those portraits and I recognize their likeness. Personally, I have zero ability in the arena of portraiture. For me, even a paint by numbers canvass would generate something a 5-yr old might do. I am more abstract spatially. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Really ? Looks like the people he did portraits of has serious skin-diseases. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dmevans365@... wrote : Absolutely. I saw these and was pretty impressed with his talent. I wish he'd never gone into politics. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : George W. Bush has recently displayed his works of art, as shown in the link below. What do you think? He's a better artist than he was a president. http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/ http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/
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Re: trying to play President I always had that impression also; total fish out of water and an idiot to boot. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : He probably should have been an artist and stayed out of the family business. He always seemed uncomfortable trying to play President. On 04/05/2014 05:45 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote : George W. Bush has recently displayed his works of art, as shown in the link below. What do you think? He's a better artist than he was a president. http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/ http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dubya's Artworks
Salyavin, It all depends if he can sell these artworks for millions during his lifetime, and if the art collectors in the future would value them like those of Van Gough and Monet. But I would have to give him credit for expanding his creative talents after leading the US into expensive war campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : George W. Bush has recently displayed his works of art, as shown in the link below. What do you think? He's a better artist than he was a president. http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/ http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dubya's Artworks
Emily, He can be the poster boy for executives and CEOs who are contemplating retirement, as well as those senior citizens who are trying to develop their talents. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dmevans365@... wrote : Absolutely. I saw these and was pretty impressed with his talent. I wish he'd never gone into politics. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : George W. Bush has recently displayed his works of art, as shown in the link below. What do you think? He's a better artist than he was a president. http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/ http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/
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Mike, You'd have to say Dubya's more successful than most artists since he's able to show his art, whether amateurish or not, to the world in a very short time. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : Not bad for someone who just took up painting portaits. However, it does look like *painting by numbers* LOL! On Saturday, April 5, 2014 6:50 AM, dmevans365@... dmevans365@... wrote: Absolutely. I saw these and was pretty impressed with his talent. I wish he'd never gone into politics. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : George W. Bush has recently displayed his works of art, as shown in the link below. What do you think? He's a better artist than he was a president. http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/ http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/
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Nabs, To be diplomatic, one can say he has a unique style of capturing the essence of the person on canvas. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Really ? Looks like the people he did portraits of has serious skin-diseases. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dmevans365@... wrote : Absolutely. I saw these and was pretty impressed with his talent. I wish he'd never gone into politics. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : George W. Bush has recently displayed his works of art, as shown in the link below. What do you think? He's a better artist than he was a president. http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/ http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dubya's Artworks
I seriously doubt he'll sell them (he might give away a few to friends). The best of them will probably end up in his presidential library for the public to see. In any case, if art collectors were to get hold of them, they'd be valued only as curiosities. They're hardly works of artistic genius. Salyavin, It all depends if he can sell these artworks for millions during his lifetime, and if the art collectors in the future would value them like those of Van Gough and Monet. But I would have to give him credit for expanding his creative talents after leading the US into expensive war campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : George W. Bush has recently displayed his works of art, as shown in the link below. What do you think? He's a better artist than he was a president. http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/ http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/
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Bhairitu, I'd to recheck Dubya's jyotish chart to find out where he got this talent for art. But I do remember he has Saturn and Mercury in the first house, just like Bill Clinton. And both of them were born under the sign of Cancer. Because of this, Sanjay Rath, the jyotishi, was speculating that Saturn and Mercury must be a special yoga for Cancer ascendants since these two people have been able to rise to the most powerful position in the world as president of the US. However, it's interesting to consider what the vedic shastras say about this yoga. It's basically saying that the conjunction of Saturn and Mercury means that the person involved hides the truth. IMO, this statement has a ring to it since all politicians never tell the truth anyway. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : He probably should have been an artist and stayed out of the family business. He always seemed uncomfortable trying to play President. On 04/05/2014 05:45 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote : George W. Bush has recently displayed his works of art, as shown in the link below. What do you think? He's a better artist than he was a president. http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/ http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/
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I'd like to know how much they would go for. Not sure how much of a draw his name would be even as the work isn't that good. Hitler's watercolour daubings would probably sell for a lot even though they aren't anything special. I suppose it's what history thinks of the celeb doing the work. Dubya needs training too much and that's obvious, so they won't be going for the sort of stupid prices a Van Gough or Monet would. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Salyavin, It all depends if he can sell these artworks for millions during his lifetime, and if the art collectors in the future would value them like those of Van Gough and Monet. But I would have to give him credit for expanding his creative talents after leading the US into expensive war campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : George W. Bush has recently displayed his works of art, as shown in the link below. What do you think? He's a better artist than he was a president. http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/ http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dubya's Artworks
Judy, I'm still puzzled at how these art critics can proclaim the works of Van Gogh to be artistic genius. From what I understand, when he painted his self-portrait, he was already insane. And, if he were alive today, he'd be astonished that his paintings are now valued in millions of dollars. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : I seriously doubt he'll sell them (he might give away a few to friends). The best of them will probably end up in his presidential library for the public to see. In any case, if art collectors were to get hold of them, they'd be valued only as curiosities. They're hardly works of artistic genius. Salyavin, It all depends if he can sell these artworks for millions during his lifetime, and if the art collectors in the future would value them like those of Van Gough and Monet. But I would have to give him credit for expanding his creative talents after leading the US into expensive war campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : George W. Bush has recently displayed his works of art, as shown in the link below. What do you think? He's a better artist than he was a president. http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/ http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dubya's Artworks
You might want to check on YouTube for videos of art-appreciation programs. There's probably at least a couple on Van Gogh that would help you see why he's considered a master. Not sure what difference it makes whether he was insane when he painted a particular work (he painted dozens of self-portraits, FWIW), or what he would think of the monetary value of his paintings today. (Or what any of this has to do with Bush's paintings, for that matter.) Judy, I'm still puzzled at how these art critics can proclaim the works of Van Gogh to be artistic genius. From what I understand, when he painted his self-portrait, he was already insane. And, if he were alive today, he'd be astonished that his paintings are now valued in millions of dollars. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : I seriously doubt he'll sell them (he might give away a few to friends). The best of them will probably end up in his presidential library for the public to see. In any case, if art collectors were to get hold of them, they'd be valued only as curiosities. They're hardly works of artistic genius. Salyavin, It all depends if he can sell these artworks for millions during his lifetime, and if the art collectors in the future would value them like those of Van Gough and Monet. But I would have to give him credit for expanding his creative talents after leading the US into expensive war campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : George W. Bush has recently displayed his works of art, as shown in the link below. What do you think? He's a better artist than he was a president. http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/ http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/
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John, I understand what you're saying. Van Gogh is not one of my favorite artists and it has nothing to do with his mental situation. I am also mystified as to why some artists' works fetch such a high price. OTOH, I walk into an art gallery and immediately find the work that I absolutely love. Though I don't understand my preferences, I trust them. And enjoy... On Saturday, April 5, 2014 1:40 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Judy, I'm still puzzled at how these art critics can proclaim the works of Van Gogh to be artistic genius. From what I understand, when he painted his self-portrait, he was already insane. And, if he were alive today, he'd be astonished that his paintings are now valued in millions of dollars. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : I seriously doubt he'll sell them (he might give away a few to friends). The best of them will probably end up in his presidential library for the public to see. In any case, if art collectors were to get hold of them, they'd be valued only as curiosities. They're hardly works of artistic genius. Salyavin, It all depends if he can sell these artworks for millions during his lifetime, and if the art collectors in the future would value them like those of Van Gough and Monet. But I would have to give him credit for expanding his creative talents after leading the US into expensive war campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : George W. Bush has recently displayed his works of art, as shown in the link below. What do you think? He's a better artist than he was a president. http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dubya's Artworks
The fact he had mental problems didn't detract from or affect his painting. He had mastered most aspects of art before he adopted the life of a penniless traveller. I went to the major retrospective of his work at the Royal Academy in London recently, everything from his sketches to his last works was represented alongside his letters to his brother which gave explanations for how he saw the world and what his paintings were trying to achieve. The last ones before he shot himself are heartbreaking, as are his last paintings, all of decripit figures toiling the land in autumn. Beautiful stuff, but he saw that season as mirroring that time of life before we ourselves get cut down by nature's scythe. There were paintings there I'd never seen before including the ones he did during his last stay at the asylum. It was groundbreaking stuff looking at the world like that and he was the first to do portraits of the peasants and champion their lives as being close to God through virtue of their poverty and lack of pretension. He became a priests for a while and gave all his money away because he thought it was a barrier to spiritual growth. So you are right in that he'd be surprised at what his paintings sell for now. And who's buying them. He hated the bourgeoisie! My favourite painting of his in New York, I've yet to see it. I love how the village sleeps unaware of the whirling majesty of the sky. A man after my own heart was Vincent, he saw the world so vibrantly and clearly. Felt it's pain and injustice. I was in tears at the end. Proper good art show that was. That's enough rambling from me, I'm going out for a pint. http://www.vangoghgallery.com/painting/starry-night.html ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Judy, I'm still puzzled at how these art critics can proclaim the works of Van Gogh to be artistic genius. From what I understand, when he painted his self-portrait, he was already insane. And, if he were alive today, he'd be astonished that his paintings are now valued in millions of dollars. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : I seriously doubt he'll sell them (he might give away a few to friends). The best of them will probably end up in his presidential library for the public to see. In any case, if art collectors were to get hold of them, they'd be valued only as curiosities. They're hardly works of artistic genius. Salyavin, It all depends if he can sell these artworks for millions during his lifetime, and if the art collectors in the future would value them like those of Van Gough and Monet. But I would have to give him credit for expanding his creative talents after leading the US into expensive war campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : George W. Bush has recently displayed his works of art, as shown in the link below. What do you think? He's a better artist than he was a president. http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/ http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/
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IMO, if he were to take lessons in painting technique, it might kill what talent he has. The portraits, at least, are to my eye very right-brained; he has just enough technique to be able to do a recognizable likeness and get his very vivid sense of the personality on the canvas. If he had to think too much about what he was doing, it could get in the way of that process. Maybe if he'd started studying when he was much younger it would have become second nature by now. I'm startled, frankly, that he has as much insight into people as the portraits reveal. There's a lot more in them than in anything Hitler ever painted, as far as I'm concerned. If I had more money than I knew what to do with, I might buy a portrait or two if they were for sale and the price was reasonable (thousands, not millions). I'm surprised at myself that I find them so appealing, because I REALLY hate Bush! I'd like to know how much they would go for. Not sure how much of a draw his name would be even as the work isn't that good. Hitler's watercolour daubings would probably sell for a lot even though they aren't anything special. I suppose it's what history thinks of the celeb doing the work. Dubya needs training too much and that's obvious, so they won't be going for the sort of stupid prices a Van Gough or Monet would. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Salyavin, It all depends if he can sell these artworks for millions during his lifetime, and if the art collectors in the future would value them like those of Van Gough and Monet. But I would have to give him credit for expanding his creative talents after leading the US into expensive war campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : George W. Bush has recently displayed his works of art, as shown in the link below. What do you think? He's a better artist than he was a president. http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/ http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/
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So what about the other Cancer ascendants that have that configuration who didn't rise to power? One thing about the painters is that if their technique is consistent then it becomes a style and attracts followers that way. On 04/05/2014 11:23 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Bhairitu, I'd to recheck Dubya's jyotish chart to find out where he got this talent for art. But I do remember he has Saturn and Mercury in the first house, just like Bill Clinton. And both of them were born under the sign of Cancer. Because of this, Sanjay Rath, the jyotishi, was speculating that Saturn and Mercury must be a special yoga for Cancer ascendants since these two people have been able to rise to the most powerful position in the world as president of the US. However, it's interesting to consider what the vedic shastras say about this yoga. It's basically saying that the conjunction of Saturn and Mercury means that the person involved hides the truth. IMO, this statement has a ring to it since all politicians never tell the truth anyway. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : He probably should have been an artist and stayed out of the family business. He always seemed uncomfortable trying to play President. On 04/05/2014 05:45 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote : George W. Bush has recently displayed his works of art, as shown in the link below. What do you think? He's a better artist than he was a president. http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/
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Share, As the old saying goes, Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. But I imagine, the artistry lies in combining different colors, along with the shades of dark and light. I remember one painting style which makes the portrait look crystal clear. I don't how it's done. But I appreciate it's because I can't see that clearly without my glasses. :) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, I understand what you're saying. Van Gogh is not one of my favorite artists and it has nothing to do with his mental situation. I am also mystified as to why some artists' works fetch such a high price. OTOH, I walk into an art gallery and immediately find the work that I absolutely love. Though I don't understand my preferences, I trust them. And enjoy... On Saturday, April 5, 2014 1:40 PM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Judy, I'm still puzzled at how these art critics can proclaim the works of Van Gogh to be artistic genius. From what I understand, when he painted his self-portrait, he was already insane. And, if he were alive today, he'd be astonished that his paintings are now valued in millions of dollars. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : I seriously doubt he'll sell them (he might give away a few to friends). The best of them will probably end up in his presidential library for the public to see. In any case, if art collectors were to get hold of them, they'd be valued only as curiosities. They're hardly works of artistic genius. Salyavin, It all depends if he can sell these artworks for millions during his lifetime, and if the art collectors in the future would value them like those of Van Gough and Monet. But I would have to give him credit for expanding his creative talents after leading the US into expensive war campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : George W. Bush has recently displayed his works of art, as shown in the link below. What do you think? He's a better artist than he was a president. http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/ http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/
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Yes, I know what you mean. He's one of those people that make me grind my teeth in anger. It's a surprise that he has any interests other than playing golf. But he has got a way of catching people - sometimes - his one of the Dalai Lama is well jolly. Hitler's stuff gets pooh-poohed but I like it, seems quite subtle to me and I like that type of European scenery anyway. But people are way harder to paint. The Putin one scares me, I hope that isn't an accurate insight ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : IMO, if he were to take lessons in painting technique, it might kill what talent he has. The portraits, at least, are to my eye very right-brained; he has just enough technique to be able to do a recognizable likeness and get his very vivid sense of the personality on the canvas. If he had to think too much about what he was doing, it could get in the way of that process. Maybe if he'd started studying when he was much younger it would have become second nature by now. I'm startled, frankly, that he has as much insight into people as the portraits reveal. There's a lot more in them than in anything Hitler ever painted, as far as I'm concerned. If I had more money than I knew what to do with, I might buy a portrait or two if they were for sale and the price was reasonable (thousands, not millions). I'm surprised at myself that I find them so appealing, because I REALLY hate Bush! I'd like to know how much they would go for. Not sure how much of a draw his name would be even as the work isn't that good. Hitler's watercolour daubings would probably sell for a lot even though they aren't anything special. I suppose it's what history thinks of the celeb doing the work. Dubya needs training too much and that's obvious, so they won't be going for the sort of stupid prices a Van Gough or Monet would. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Salyavin, It all depends if he can sell these artworks for millions during his lifetime, and if the art collectors in the future would value them like those of Van Gough and Monet. But I would have to give him credit for expanding his creative talents after leading the US into expensive war campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : George W. Bush has recently displayed his works of art, as shown in the link below. What do you think? He's a better artist than he was a president. http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/ http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/
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Salyavin, That's a nice painting there which I've seen somewhere before. I'd have to check his jyotish chart to find out why he became insane and what are the planetary combinations that gave him the talent for painting. In general, talent in art is a manifestation of passion for work and living. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : The fact he had mental problems didn't detract from or affect his painting. He had mastered most aspects of art before he adopted the life of a penniless traveller. I went to the major retrospective of his work at the Royal Academy in London recently, everything from his sketches to his last works was represented alongside his letters to his brother which gave explanations for how he saw the world and what his paintings were trying to achieve. The last ones before he shot himself are heartbreaking, as are his last paintings, all of decripit figures toiling the land in autumn. Beautiful stuff, but he saw that season as mirroring that time of life before we ourselves get cut down by nature's scythe. There were paintings there I'd never seen before including the ones he did during his last stay at the asylum. It was groundbreaking stuff looking at the world like that and he was the first to do portraits of the peasants and champion their lives as being close to God through virtue of their poverty and lack of pretension. He became a priests for a while and gave all his money away because he thought it was a barrier to spiritual growth. So you are right in that he'd be surprised at what his paintings sell for now. And who's buying them. He hated the bourgeoisie! My favourite painting of his in New York, I've yet to see it. I love how the village sleeps unaware of the whirling majesty of the sky. A man after my own heart was Vincent, he saw the world so vibrantly and clearly. Felt it's pain and injustice. I was in tears at the end. Proper good art show that was. That's enough rambling from me, I'm going out for a pint. http://www.vangoghgallery.com/painting/starry-night.html ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Judy, I'm still puzzled at how these art critics can proclaim the works of Van Gogh to be artistic genius. From what I understand, when he painted his self-portrait, he was already insane. And, if he were alive today, he'd be astonished that his paintings are now valued in millions of dollars. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : I seriously doubt he'll sell them (he might give away a few to friends). The best of them will probably end up in his presidential library for the public to see. In any case, if art collectors were to get hold of them, they'd be valued only as curiosities. They're hardly works of artistic genius. Salyavin, It all depends if he can sell these artworks for millions during his lifetime, and if the art collectors in the future would value them like those of Van Gough and Monet. But I would have to give him credit for expanding his creative talents after leading the US into expensive war campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : George W. Bush has recently displayed his works of art, as shown in the link below. What do you think? He's a better artist than he was a president. http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/ http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/
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Judy, The fact that he saw the world differently in various colors and shades is probably the reason why art critics like his works. Could he have painted just as well if he were sane or whatever was troubling him at the time? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : You might want to check on YouTube for videos of art-appreciation programs. There's probably at least a couple on Van Gogh that would help you see why he's considered a master. Not sure what difference it makes whether he was insane when he painted a particular work (he painted dozens of self-portraits, FWIW), or what he would think of the monetary value of his paintings today. (Or what any of this has to do with Bush's paintings, for that matter.) Judy, I'm still puzzled at how these art critics can proclaim the works of Van Gogh to be artistic genius. From what I understand, when he painted his self-portrait, he was already insane. And, if he were alive today, he'd be astonished that his paintings are now valued in millions of dollars. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : I seriously doubt he'll sell them (he might give away a few to friends). The best of them will probably end up in his presidential library for the public to see. In any case, if art collectors were to get hold of them, they'd be valued only as curiosities. They're hardly works of artistic genius. Salyavin, It all depends if he can sell these artworks for millions during his lifetime, and if the art collectors in the future would value them like those of Van Gough and Monet. But I would have to give him credit for expanding his creative talents after leading the US into expensive war campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : George W. Bush has recently displayed his works of art, as shown in the link below. What do you think? He's a better artist than he was a president. http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/ http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/
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Salyavin, I also thought the Putin portrait was scary looking. And I also agree with whoever said they looked like paint by numbers. Though I don't like Bush, I admire that he launched himself into such new territory at his age. I think Grandma Moses did too. But she was, I think, more successful as an artist. On Saturday, April 5, 2014 2:55 PM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yes, I know what you mean. He's one of those people that make me grind my teeth in anger. It's a surprise that he has any interests other than playing golf. But he has got a way of catching people - sometimes - his one of the Dalai Lama is well jolly. Hitler's stuff gets pooh-poohed but I like it, seems quite subtle to me and I like that type of European scenery anyway. But people are way harder to paint. The Putin one scares me, I hope that isn't an accurate insight ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : IMO, if he were to take lessons in painting technique, it might kill what talent he has. The portraits, at least, are to my eye very right-brained; he has just enough technique to be able to do a recognizable likeness and get his very vivid sense of the personality on the canvas. If he had to think too much about what he was doing, it could get in the way of that process. Maybe if he'd started studying when he was much younger it would have become second nature by now. I'm startled, frankly, that he has as much insight into people as the portraits reveal. There's a lot more in them than in anything Hitler ever painted, as far as I'm concerned. If I had more money than I knew what to do with, I might buy a portrait or two if they were for sale and the price was reasonable (thousands, not millions). I'm surprised at myself that I find them so appealing, because I REALLY hate Bush! I'd like to know how much they would go for. Not sure how much of a draw his name would be even as the work isn't that good. Hitler's watercolour daubings would probably sell for a lot even though they aren't anything special. I suppose it's what history thinks of the celeb doing the work. Dubya needs training too much and that's obvious, so they won't be going for the sort of stupid prices a Van Gough or Monet would. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Salyavin, It all depends if he can sell these artworks for millions during his lifetime, and if the art collectors in the future would value them like those of Van Gough and Monet. But I would have to give him credit for expanding his creative talents after leading the US into expensive war campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : George W. Bush has recently displayed his works of art, as shown in the link below. What do you think? He's a better artist than he was a president. http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/
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Bhairitu, I suppose painting is similar to music, as in George Shearing using block chords in his repertoire, and Miles Davis using quartal chords in his composition, So What? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : So what about the other Cancer ascendants that have that configuration who didn't rise to power? One thing about the painters is that if their technique is consistent then it becomes a style and attracts followers that way. On 04/05/2014 11:23 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Bhairitu, I'd to recheck Dubya's jyotish chart to find out where he got this talent for art. But I do remember he has Saturn and Mercury in the first house, just like Bill Clinton. And both of them were born under the sign of Cancer. Because of this, Sanjay Rath, the jyotishi, was speculating that Saturn and Mercury must be a special yoga for Cancer ascendants since these two people have been able to rise to the most powerful position in the world as president of the US. However, it's interesting to consider what the vedic shastras say about this yoga. It's basically saying that the conjunction of Saturn and Mercury means that the person involved hides the truth. IMO, this statement has a ring to it since all politicians never tell the truth anyway. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : He probably should have been an artist and stayed out of the family business. He always seemed uncomfortable trying to play President. On 04/05/2014 05:45 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote : George W. Bush has recently displayed his works of art, as shown in the link below. What do you think? He's a better artist than he was a president. http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/ http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/
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I read that he only started painting in 2012. That's amazing. The Dalai Lama is nice...but I don't get the sense that Bush had much insight into him. The one of his father is just inexplicable; it doesn't even look like him, and there's no sense whatsoever of the personality that I can see. The Putin portrait is apparently Bush's favorite. It's certainly scary, but I'm not sure what it's saying about Putin. My favorite is the Blair; that man is haunted, not a happy fella. The Bush we love to hate shows up pretty clearly in the self-portrait... Yes, I know what you mean. He's one of those people that make me grind my teeth in anger. It's a surprise that he has any interests other than playing golf. But he has got a way of catching people - sometimes - his one of the Dalai Lama is well jolly. Hitler's stuff gets pooh-poohed but I like it, seems quite subtle to me and I like that type of European scenery anyway. But people are way harder to paint. The Putin one scares me, I hope that isn't an accurate insight ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : IMO, if he were to take lessons in painting technique, it might kill what talent he has. The portraits, at least, are to my eye very right-brained; he has just enough technique to be able to do a recognizable likeness and get his very vivid sense of the personality on the canvas. If he had to think too much about what he was doing, it could get in the way of that process. Maybe if he'd started studying when he was much younger it would have become second nature by now. I'm startled, frankly, that he has as much insight into people as the portraits reveal. There's a lot more in them than in anything Hitler ever painted, as far as I'm concerned. If I had more money than I knew what to do with, I might buy a portrait or two if they were for sale and the price was reasonable (thousands, not millions). I'm surprised at myself that I find them so appealing, because I REALLY hate Bush! I'd like to know how much they would go for. Not sure how much of a draw his name would be even as the work isn't that good. Hitler's watercolour daubings would probably sell for a lot even though they aren't anything special. I suppose it's what history thinks of the celeb doing the work. Dubya needs training too much and that's obvious, so they won't be going for the sort of stupid prices a Van Gough or Monet would. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Salyavin, It all depends if he can sell these artworks for millions during his lifetime, and if the art collectors in the future would value them like those of Van Gough and Monet. But I would have to give him credit for expanding his creative talents after leading the US into expensive war campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : George W. Bush has recently displayed his works of art, as shown in the link below. What do you think? He's a better artist than he was a president. http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/ http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/
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John, beauty is a fascinating topic from many angles. For example, I can totally see why people say that George Clooney is very handsome, etc. But there are other actors who I find far more attractive. Go figure! On Saturday, April 5, 2014 2:49 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Share, As the old saying goes, Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. But I imagine, the artistry lies in combining different colors, along with the shades of dark and light. I remember one painting style which makes the portrait look crystal clear. I don't how it's done. But I appreciate it's because I can't see that clearly without my glasses. :) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, I understand what you're saying. Van Gogh is not one of my favorite artists and it has nothing to do with his mental situation. I am also mystified as to why some artists' works fetch such a high price. OTOH, I walk into an art gallery and immediately find the work that I absolutely love. Though I don't understand my preferences, I trust them. And enjoy... On Saturday, April 5, 2014 1:40 PM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Judy, I'm still puzzled at how these art critics can proclaim the works of Van Gogh to be artistic genius. From what I understand, when he painted his self-portrait, he was already insane. And, if he were alive today, he'd be astonished that his paintings are now valued in millions of dollars. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : I seriously doubt he'll sell them (he might give away a few to friends). The best of them will probably end up in his presidential library for the public to see. In any case, if art collectors were to get hold of them, they'd be valued only as curiosities. They're hardly works of artistic genius. Salyavin, It all depends if he can sell these artworks for millions during his lifetime, and if the art collectors in the future would value them like those of Van Gough and Monet. But I would have to give him credit for expanding his creative talents after leading the US into expensive war campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : George W. Bush has recently displayed his works of art, as shown in the link below. What do you think? He's a better artist than he was a president. http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/
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Share, Now that you've mentioned it, I've always wondered why George Clooney is still single after dating all of those gorgeous women he was associated with in the past. Now, he's got a new girlfriend again. One wonders if he'll ever get married. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, beauty is a fascinating topic from many angles. For example, I can totally see why people say that George Clooney is very handsome, etc. But there are other actors who I find far more attractive. Go figure! On Saturday, April 5, 2014 2:49 PM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Share, As the old saying goes, Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. But I imagine, the artistry lies in combining different colors, along with the shades of dark and light. I remember one painting style which makes the portrait look crystal clear. I don't how it's done. But I appreciate it's because I can't see that clearly without my glasses. :) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, I understand what you're saying. Van Gogh is not one of my favorite artists and it has nothing to do with his mental situation. I am also mystified as to why some artists' works fetch such a high price. OTOH, I walk into an art gallery and immediately find the work that I absolutely love. Though I don't understand my preferences, I trust them. And enjoy... On Saturday, April 5, 2014 1:40 PM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Judy, I'm still puzzled at how these art critics can proclaim the works of Van Gogh to be artistic genius. From what I understand, when he painted his self-portrait, he was already insane. And, if he were alive today, he'd be astonished that his paintings are now valued in millions of dollars. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : I seriously doubt he'll sell them (he might give away a few to friends). The best of them will probably end up in his presidential library for the public to see. In any case, if art collectors were to get hold of them, they'd be valued only as curiosities. They're hardly works of artistic genius. Salyavin, It all depends if he can sell these artworks for millions during his lifetime, and if the art collectors in the future would value them like those of Van Gough and Monet. But I would have to give him credit for expanding his creative talents after leading the US into expensive war campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : George W. Bush has recently displayed his works of art, as shown in the link below. What do you think? He's a better artist than he was a president. http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/ http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dubya's Artworks
I wonder if that is how he sees his father when he looks at him. It is very odd; in fact it is more a caricature of him - almost cartoon-like. H It *is* funny how he painted himself, trying to look stately, or something. :) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : I read that he only started painting in 2012. That's amazing. The Dalai Lama is nice...but I don't get the sense that Bush had much insight into him. The one of his father is just inexplicable; it doesn't even look like him, and there's no sense whatsoever of the personality that I can see. The Putin portrait is apparently Bush's favorite. It's certainly scary, but I'm not sure what it's saying about Putin. My favorite is the Blair; that man is haunted, not a happy fella. The Bush we love to hate shows up pretty clearly in the self-portrait... Yes, I know what you mean. He's one of those people that make me grind my teeth in anger. It's a surprise that he has any interests other than playing golf. But he has got a way of catching people - sometimes - his one of the Dalai Lama is well jolly. Hitler's stuff gets pooh-poohed but I like it, seems quite subtle to me and I like that type of European scenery anyway. But people are way harder to paint. The Putin one scares me, I hope that isn't an accurate insight ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : IMO, if he were to take lessons in painting technique, it might kill what talent he has. The portraits, at least, are to my eye very right-brained; he has just enough technique to be able to do a recognizable likeness and get his very vivid sense of the personality on the canvas. If he had to think too much about what he was doing, it could get in the way of that process. Maybe if he'd started studying when he was much younger it would have become second nature by now. I'm startled, frankly, that he has as much insight into people as the portraits reveal. There's a lot more in them than in anything Hitler ever painted, as far as I'm concerned. If I had more money than I knew what to do with, I might buy a portrait or two if they were for sale and the price was reasonable (thousands, not millions). I'm surprised at myself that I find them so appealing, because I REALLY hate Bush! I'd like to know how much they would go for. Not sure how much of a draw his name would be even as the work isn't that good. Hitler's watercolour daubings would probably sell for a lot even though they aren't anything special. I suppose it's what history thinks of the celeb doing the work. Dubya needs training too much and that's obvious, so they won't be going for the sort of stupid prices a Van Gough or Monet would. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Salyavin, It all depends if he can sell these artworks for millions during his lifetime, and if the art collectors in the future would value them like those of Van Gough and Monet. But I would have to give him credit for expanding his creative talents after leading the US into expensive war campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : George W. Bush has recently displayed his works of art, as shown in the link below. What do you think? He's a better artist than he was a president. http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/ http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/
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John, he has often stated that he never intends to marry. In fact, he broke up with one girlfriend simply because she admitted in an interview that she wanted to marry someday and have children. On Saturday, April 5, 2014 3:33 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Share, Now that you've mentioned it, I've always wondered why George Clooney is still single after dating all of those gorgeous women he was associated with in the past. Now, he's got a new girlfriend again. One wonders if he'll ever get married. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, beauty is a fascinating topic from many angles. For example, I can totally see why people say that George Clooney is very handsome, etc. But there are other actors who I find far more attractive. Go figure! On Saturday, April 5, 2014 2:49 PM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Share, As the old saying goes, Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. But I imagine, the artistry lies in combining different colors, along with the shades of dark and light. I remember one painting style which makes the portrait look crystal clear. I don't how it's done. But I appreciate it's because I can't see that clearly without my glasses. :) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, I understand what you're saying. Van Gogh is not one of my favorite artists and it has nothing to do with his mental situation. I am also mystified as to why some artists' works fetch such a high price. OTOH, I walk into an art gallery and immediately find the work that I absolutely love. Though I don't understand my preferences, I trust them. And enjoy... On Saturday, April 5, 2014 1:40 PM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Judy, I'm still puzzled at how these art critics can proclaim the works of Van Gogh to be artistic genius. From what I understand, when he painted his self-portrait, he was already insane. And, if he were alive today, he'd be astonished that his paintings are now valued in millions of dollars. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : I seriously doubt he'll sell them (he might give away a few to friends). The best of them will probably end up in his presidential library for the public to see. In any case, if art collectors were to get hold of them, they'd be valued only as curiosities. They're hardly works of artistic genius. Salyavin, It all depends if he can sell these artworks for millions during his lifetime, and if the art collectors in the future would value them like those of Van Gough and Monet. But I would have to give him credit for expanding his creative talents after leading the US into expensive war campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : George W. Bush has recently displayed his works of art, as shown in the link below. What do you think? He's a better artist than he was a president. http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/
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Share, I'd be interested to look at his jyotish chart. He probably has a yoga for bachelorhood, but not necessarily celebate. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, he has often stated that he never intends to marry. In fact, he broke up with one girlfriend simply because she admitted in an interview that she wanted to marry someday and have children. On Saturday, April 5, 2014 3:33 PM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Share, Now that you've mentioned it, I've always wondered why George Clooney is still single after dating all of those gorgeous women he was associated with in the past. Now, he's got a new girlfriend again. One wonders if he'll ever get married. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, beauty is a fascinating topic from many angles. For example, I can totally see why people say that George Clooney is very handsome, etc. But there are other actors who I find far more attractive. Go figure! On Saturday, April 5, 2014 2:49 PM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Share, As the old saying goes, Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. But I imagine, the artistry lies in combining different colors, along with the shades of dark and light. I remember one painting style which makes the portrait look crystal clear. I don't how it's done. But I appreciate it's because I can't see that clearly without my glasses. :) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, I understand what you're saying. Van Gogh is not one of my favorite artists and it has nothing to do with his mental situation. I am also mystified as to why some artists' works fetch such a high price. OTOH, I walk into an art gallery and immediately find the work that I absolutely love. Though I don't understand my preferences, I trust them. And enjoy... On Saturday, April 5, 2014 1:40 PM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Judy, I'm still puzzled at how these art critics can proclaim the works of Van Gogh to be artistic genius. From what I understand, when he painted his self-portrait, he was already insane. And, if he were alive today, he'd be astonished that his paintings are now valued in millions of dollars. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : I seriously doubt he'll sell them (he might give away a few to friends). The best of them will probably end up in his presidential library for the public to see. In any case, if art collectors were to get hold of them, they'd be valued only as curiosities. They're hardly works of artistic genius. Salyavin, It all depends if he can sell these artworks for millions during his lifetime, and if the art collectors in the future would value them like those of Van Gough and Monet. But I would have to give him credit for expanding his creative talents after leading the US into expensive war campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : George W. Bush has recently displayed his works of art, as shown in the link below. What do you think? He's a better artist than he was a president. http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/ http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/
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The bumper stick I liked the best was, . and somewhere in Texas a village is missing it's idiot ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote : Re: trying to play President I always had that impression also; total fish out of water and an idiot to boot. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : He probably should have been an artist and stayed out of the family business. He always seemed uncomfortable trying to play President. On 04/05/2014 05:45 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote : George W. Bush has recently displayed his works of art, as shown in the link below. What do you think? He's a better artist than he was a president. http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/ http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dubya's Artworks
I hate to admit it, but they're not bad, IMHO. He has a good eye, if not a brilliant technique. Interestingly, what seems to me to be the least successful portrait in this series is the one of his father, which barely even resembles him. The best one, I think, is of Blair. It reveals something about Blair that isn't part of his public persona, some profound inner discomfort or insecurity. George W. Bush has recently displayed his works of art, as shown in the link below. What do you think? http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/ http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dubya's Artworks
I particularly like his self-portrait. Though I'm not an art expert, yes you're right. He has his own style of painting. Dubya could probably sell a lot of his art works at a very high price--particularly to rich Republican supporters. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : I hate to admit it, but they're not bad, IMHO. He has a good eye, if not a brilliant technique. Interestingly, what seems to me to be the least successful portrait in this series is the one of his father, which barely even resembles him. The best one, I think, is of Blair. It reveals something about Blair that isn't part of his public persona, some profound inner discomfort or insecurity. George W. Bush has recently displayed his works of art, as shown in the link below. What do you think? http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/ http://news.yahoo.com/photos/portraits-by-george-w-bush-slideshow/