[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Verma's site
Initiations for 18 to 65 year-olds costs Rs. 900 (about £10)- don't know whether that's a change and whether £10 worth is expensive for Indians.. http://peace-movement.net/participation.html --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://peace-movement.net/Administrative.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Verma's site
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Initiations for 18 to 65 year-olds costs Rs. 900 (about £10)- don't know whether that's a change and whether £10 worth is expensive for Indians.. http://peace-movement.net/participation.html That's not quite true, according to the site. Membership in the organization is listed as available at the following prices (currency conversions by a fairly accurate Website): 300 rupees ($7 US) for a student 900 rupees ($21 US) for an adult 600 rupees ($14 US) for a senior citizen 3000 rupees ($70 US) for a family 25000 rupees ($585 US) for a company According to the site itself, all that you get for your money is an Identity Card, one which will give you required honour, authority and identification as peace promoters. :-) The site does NOT say (at least I couldn't find it) that you're going to get anything BUT your Identity Card for those prices. There is nothing to suggest what the cost of TM or the TN-siddhis will be. Not that I care all that much, but if you're going to post stuff about this wannabee legend in his own mind, it should probably be accurate stuff. On the other hand, *definitely* download the application form, and wait for the abysmally slow data transfer. It's worth it, because it demands information about your Caste and your Religion, your Computer Proficiency, your Occu- pation and Languages Spoken, not to mention whether you have ever been punished in a court of law or involved in any court cases. I think all of the TM teachers here know how important all of this information is in determining one's mantra. :-) There are more questions on the form, such as asking if you are *already* a practitioner of TM or the TM-siddhis (which indicates to me that you are NOT getting them for your sign-up fee when you apply), and a LOT of questions about whether you work for or have ever worked for one of the other TM organizations. As Shemp and others suggested earlier, it's a coup. It is very DEFINITELY an attempt to create an alternative TM movement. As I suggested earlier, WHO THE FUCK CARES? This new TM movement is as laughable as the old one. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk claudiouk@ wrote: http://peace-movement.net/Administrative.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Verma's site
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk claudiouk@ wrote: Initiations for 18 to 65 year-olds costs Rs. 900 (about £10)- don't know whether that's a change and whether £10 worth is expensive for Indians.. http://peace-movement.net/participation.html That's not quite true, according to the site. Membership in the organization is listed as available at the following prices (currency conversions by a fairly accurate Website): 300 rupees ($7 US) for a student 900 rupees ($21 US) for an adult 600 rupees ($14 US) for a senior citizen 3000 rupees ($70 US) for a family 25000 rupees ($585 US) for a company According to the site itself, all that you get for your money is an Identity Card, one which will give you required honour, authority and identification as peace promoters. :-) The site does NOT say (at least I couldn't find it) that you're going to get anything BUT your Identity Card for those prices. There is nothing to suggest what the cost of TM or the TN-siddhis will be. Not that I care all that much, but if you're going to post stuff about this wannabee legend in his own mind, it should probably be accurate stuff. I bet you care enough to want to know what happens next ;-) On the other hand, *definitely* download the application form, and wait for the abysmally slow data transfer. It's worth it, because it demands information about your Caste and your Religion, your Computer Proficiency, your Occu- pation and Languages Spoken, not to mention whether you have ever been punished in a court of law or involved in any court cases. I think all of the TM teachers here know how important all of this information is in determining one's mantra. :-) What, you mean it isn't some hugely complex mystical formula followed by the teacher? There are more questions on the form, such as asking if you are *already* a practitioner of TM or the TM-siddhis (which indicates to me that you are NOT getting them for your sign-up fee when you apply), and a LOT of questions about whether you work for or have ever worked for one of the other TM organizations. As Shemp and others suggested earlier, it's a coup. It is very DEFINITELY an attempt to create an alternative TM movement. I wish I could join, I bet ownership of a membership card would get you instant pariah status over here. I can see some people getting in a flap about all this for sure. As I suggested earlier, WHO THE FUCK CARES? This new TM movement is as laughable as the old one. Actually, I care because it's been a major part of my life for years and I still know a lot of people who will be affected by any break up. If it is a coup then for me it's like watching a soap opera where you personally know some of the characters. I almost want to be involved still so I can see what happens from the inside. Might even watch the channel for a while... Hmm, never thought I'd say that. Maybe you're too far away from it to feel any involvement so I guess it wouldn't look like much.I'm amazed they've done all this without telling Bev and the boys in Vlodrop. I think it's fascinating, better than anything on TV at the moment. Except the Tour de France of course.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Verma's site
Noticed two recent changes on the site - a flashing notice emphasizing this is for Indians only (!) AND Maharishi World Peace Movement is part of Maharishi's global movement and the Global Country of World Peace. So perhaps there's been some quick and successful diplomacy.. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://peace-movement.net/Administrative.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Verma's site
I didn't do a top to bottom reading of the entire site, but as of yet I have not seen mention of King Tony anywhere... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Noticed two recent changes on the site - a flashing notice emphasizing this is for Indians only (!) AND Maharishi World Peace Movement is part of Maharishi's global movement and the Global Country of World Peace. So perhaps there's been some quick and successful diplomacy.. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk claudiouk@ wrote: http://peace-movement.net/Administrative.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Verma's site
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk claudiouk@ wrote: Initiations for 18 to 65 year-olds costs Rs. 900 (about £10)- don't know whether that's a change and whether £10 worth is expensive for Indians.. http://peace-movement.net/participation.html That's not quite true, according to the site. Membership in the organization is listed as available at the following prices (currency conversions by a fairly accurate Website): 300 rupees ($7 US) for a student 900 rupees ($21 US) for an adult 600 rupees ($14 US) for a senior citizen 3000 rupees ($70 US) for a family 25000 rupees ($585 US) for a company According to the site itself, all that you get for your money is an Identity Card, one which will give you required honour, authority and identification as peace promoters. :-) The site does NOT say (at least I couldn't find it) that you're going to get anything BUT your Identity Card for those prices. There is nothing to suggest what the cost of TM or the TN-siddhis will be. Not that I care all that much, but if you're going to post stuff about this wannabee legend in his own mind, it should probably be accurate stuff. I bet you care enough to want to know what happens next ;-) Ok, you're right. :-) My bet is that it's ALL about the Identity Cards, and the next step is that no one from the TMO will be allowed to set foot any of the movement facilities in India run by Girish (which is...duh...all of them) unless they have such a card. It's the beginnings of a power play and takeover of assets. On the other hand, *definitely* download the application form, and wait for the abysmally slow data transfer. It's worth it, because it demands information about your Caste and your Religion, your Computer Proficiency, your Occu- pation and Languages Spoken, not to mention whether you have ever been punished in a court of law or involved in any court cases. I think all of the TM teachers here know how important all of this information is in determining one's mantra. :-) What, you mean it isn't some hugely complex mystical formula followed by the teacher? It's a simple numerical formula. If it's a woman, the mantra is determined based on bra size. The possibilities are 32-44, in even increments. If it's a guy, the mantra is determined based on IQ. Same numerical range. There are more questions on the form, such as asking if you are *already* a practitioner of TM or the TM-siddhis (which indicates to me that you are NOT getting them for your sign-up fee when you apply), and a LOT of questions about whether you work for or have ever worked for one of the other TM organizations. As Shemp and others suggested earlier, it's a coup. It is very DEFINITELY an attempt to create an alternative TM movement. I wish I could join, I bet ownership of a membership card would get you instant pariah status over here. I can see some people getting in a flap about all this for sure. I toyed with sending off for an Identity Card myself, and using it to try to get into the dome in Fairfield if I ever visit. I can't help myself...it's that Evil Shakti (TM) thang acting up. As I suggested earlier, WHO THE FUCK CARES? This new TM movement is as laughable as the old one. Actually, I care because it's been a major part of my life for years and I still know a lot of people who will be affected by any break up. If it is a coup then for me it's like watching a soap opera where you personally know some of the characters. I almost want to be involved still so I can see what happens from the inside. Might even watch the channel for a while... Hmm, never thought I'd say that. Maybe you're too far away from it to feel any involvement so I guess it wouldn't look like much.I'm amazed they've done all this without telling Bev and the boys in Vlodrop. I'm NOT amazed that they did all this without Bevan and the boys noticing. :-) I think it's fascinating, better than anything on TV at the moment. Except the Tour de France of course. And Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog. Oh sorry, that's not on TV. Then again, neither is the Maharishi Channel. The characters on Dr. Horrible have better costumes.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Verma's site
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not that I care all that much, but if you're going to post stuff about this wannabee legend in his own mind, it should probably be accurate stuff. This Turk wants you to think that he doesn't care. Yet every single day, all year around he posts something about TM or the TMO. Which he left more than 30 years ago ! Sick really. As Judy said; this fellow needs professional help.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Verma's site
The mistake that Bev and the Voldrop Boys, a term that Barry has so eloquently coined, is that they have, according to some reports, attempted a compromise with Girlish Girish (or Fat Cheeks, whatever you prefer). For instance, it has been suggested that the addition to his site of the words For Indians only (or something like that) is the TMO's way of saying: Okay, Girish, if you're going to break away, why not see if we can live together by you just running India the way you want to? The mistake here is the same one everyone made with Hitler: give him Czechoslovakia and he'll soon want Poland, France, and Russia. No, history has taught us that you've got to cut a tyrant's balls off at the slightest suggestion of impropriety. The ball's in his court and he's got ALL the marbles. The TMO has now given him credibility by giving him their consent on his recent move and he'll have absolutely no reason not to go full throttle when and where he's ready. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk claudiouk@ wrote: Initiations for 18 to 65 year-olds costs Rs. 900 (about £10)- don't know whether that's a change and whether £10 worth is expensive for Indians.. http://peace-movement.net/participation.html That's not quite true, according to the site. Membership in the organization is listed as available at the following prices (currency conversions by a fairly accurate Website): 300 rupees ($7 US) for a student 900 rupees ($21 US) for an adult 600 rupees ($14 US) for a senior citizen 3000 rupees ($70 US) for a family 25000 rupees ($585 US) for a company According to the site itself, all that you get for your money is an Identity Card, one which will give you required honour, authority and identification as peace promoters. :-) The site does NOT say (at least I couldn't find it) that you're going to get anything BUT your Identity Card for those prices. There is nothing to suggest what the cost of TM or the TN-siddhis will be. Not that I care all that much, but if you're going to post stuff about this wannabee legend in his own mind, it should probably be accurate stuff. I bet you care enough to want to know what happens next ;-) Ok, you're right. :-) My bet is that it's ALL about the Identity Cards, and the next step is that no one from the TMO will be allowed to set foot any of the movement facilities in India run by Girish (which is...duh...all of them) unless they have such a card. It's the beginnings of a power play and takeover of assets. On the other hand, *definitely* download the application form, and wait for the abysmally slow data transfer. It's worth it, because it demands information about your Caste and your Religion, your Computer Proficiency, your Occu- pation and Languages Spoken, not to mention whether you have ever been punished in a court of law or involved in any court cases. I think all of the TM teachers here know how important all of this information is in determining one's mantra. :-) What, you mean it isn't some hugely complex mystical formula followed by the teacher? It's a simple numerical formula. If it's a woman, the mantra is determined based on bra size. The possibilities are 32-44, in even increments. If it's a guy, the mantra is determined based on IQ. Same numerical range. There are more questions on the form, such as asking if you are *already* a practitioner of TM or the TM-siddhis (which indicates to me that you are NOT getting them for your sign-up fee when you apply), and a LOT of questions about whether you work for or have ever worked for one of the other TM organizations. As Shemp and others suggested earlier, it's a coup. It is very DEFINITELY an attempt to create an alternative TM movement. I wish I could join, I bet ownership of a membership card would get you instant pariah status over here. I can see some people getting in a flap about all this for sure. I toyed with sending off for an Identity Card myself, and using it to try to get into the dome in Fairfield if I ever visit. I can't help myself...it's that Evil Shakti (TM) thang acting up. As I suggested earlier, WHO THE FUCK CARES? This new TM movement is as laughable as the old one. Actually, I care because it's been a major part of my life for years and I still know a lot of people who will be affected by any break up. If it is a coup then for me it's like watching a soap opera where you personally know some of the characters. I almost want to be involved still so I can see what happens from the inside. Might even
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Verma's site
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Not that I care all that much, but if you're going to post stuff about this wannabee legend in his own mind, it should probably be accurate stuff. This Turk wants you to think that he doesn't care. Yet every single day, all year around he posts something about TM or the TMO. Which he left more than 30 years ago ! Sick really. As Judy said; this fellow needs professional help. As a beacon of shining mental health, Nabby, you serve as an example of what he can aspire to.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Verma's site
I wonder why Girish wouldn't want to be ruled by Tony who comes from the area of the world who invaded Indian and crushed many Maharajas or the tubby dude from the prison colony of the Brits down under? Oh I know, because he is Indian! I say go Girish go, overthrow your white oppressors. Just keep your superstitious culture in India, our Age of Enlightenment in the West involved the use of reason rather than bowing to dusty old traditions. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk claudiouk@ wrote: Initiations for 18 to 65 year-olds costs Rs. 900 (about £10)- don't know whether that's a change and whether £10 worth is expensive for Indians.. http://peace-movement.net/participation.html That's not quite true, according to the site. Membership in the organization is listed as available at the following prices (currency conversions by a fairly accurate Website): 300 rupees ($7 US) for a student 900 rupees ($21 US) for an adult 600 rupees ($14 US) for a senior citizen 3000 rupees ($70 US) for a family 25000 rupees ($585 US) for a company According to the site itself, all that you get for your money is an Identity Card, one which will give you required honour, authority and identification as peace promoters. :-) The site does NOT say (at least I couldn't find it) that you're going to get anything BUT your Identity Card for those prices. There is nothing to suggest what the cost of TM or the TN-siddhis will be. Not that I care all that much, but if you're going to post stuff about this wannabee legend in his own mind, it should probably be accurate stuff. I bet you care enough to want to know what happens next ;-) Ok, you're right. :-) My bet is that it's ALL about the Identity Cards, and the next step is that no one from the TMO will be allowed to set foot any of the movement facilities in India run by Girish (which is...duh...all of them) unless they have such a card. It's the beginnings of a power play and takeover of assets. On the other hand, *definitely* download the application form, and wait for the abysmally slow data transfer. It's worth it, because it demands information about your Caste and your Religion, your Computer Proficiency, your Occu- pation and Languages Spoken, not to mention whether you have ever been punished in a court of law or involved in any court cases. I think all of the TM teachers here know how important all of this information is in determining one's mantra. :-) What, you mean it isn't some hugely complex mystical formula followed by the teacher? It's a simple numerical formula. If it's a woman, the mantra is determined based on bra size. The possibilities are 32-44, in even increments. If it's a guy, the mantra is determined based on IQ. Same numerical range. There are more questions on the form, such as asking if you are *already* a practitioner of TM or the TM-siddhis (which indicates to me that you are NOT getting them for your sign-up fee when you apply), and a LOT of questions about whether you work for or have ever worked for one of the other TM organizations. As Shemp and others suggested earlier, it's a coup. It is very DEFINITELY an attempt to create an alternative TM movement. I wish I could join, I bet ownership of a membership card would get you instant pariah status over here. I can see some people getting in a flap about all this for sure. I toyed with sending off for an Identity Card myself, and using it to try to get into the dome in Fairfield if I ever visit. I can't help myself...it's that Evil Shakti (TM) thang acting up. As I suggested earlier, WHO THE FUCK CARES? This new TM movement is as laughable as the old one. Actually, I care because it's been a major part of my life for years and I still know a lot of people who will be affected by any break up. If it is a coup then for me it's like watching a soap opera where you personally know some of the characters. I almost want to be involved still so I can see what happens from the inside. Might even watch the channel for a while... Hmm, never thought I'd say that. Maybe you're too far away from it to feel any involvement so I guess it wouldn't look like much.I'm amazed they've done all this without telling Bev and the boys in Vlodrop. I'm NOT amazed that they did all this without Bevan and the boys noticing. :-) I think it's fascinating, better than anything on TV at the moment. Except the Tour de France of course. And Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog. Oh sorry, that's not on TV. Then again, neither
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Verma's site
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk claudiouk@ wrote: Initiations for 18 to 65 year-olds costs Rs. 900 (about £10)- don't know whether that's a change and whether £10 worth is expensive for Indians.. http://peace-movement.net/participation.html That's not quite true, according to the site. Membership in the organization is listed as available at the following prices (currency conversions by a fairly accurate Website): 300 rupees ($7 US) for a student 900 rupees ($21 US) for an adult 600 rupees ($14 US) for a senior citizen 3000 rupees ($70 US) for a family 25000 rupees ($585 US) for a company According to the site itself, all that you get for your money is an Identity Card, one which will give you required honour, authority and identification as peace promoters. :-) The site does NOT say (at least I couldn't find it) that you're going to get anything BUT your Identity Card for those prices. There is nothing to suggest what the cost of TM or the TN-siddhis will be. Not that I care all that much, but if you're going to post stuff about this wannabee legend in his own mind, it should probably be accurate stuff. I bet you care enough to want to know what happens next ;-) On the other hand, *definitely* download the application form, and wait for the abysmally slow data transfer. It's worth it, because it demands information about your Caste and your Religion, your Computer Proficiency, your Occu- pation and Languages Spoken, not to mention whether you have ever been punished in a court of law or involved in any court cases. I think all of the TM teachers here know how important all of this information is in determining one's mantra. :-) What, you mean it isn't some hugely complex mystical formula followed by the teacher? There are more questions on the form, such as asking if you are *already* a practitioner of TM or the TM-siddhis (which indicates to me that you are NOT getting them for your sign-up fee when you apply), and a LOT of questions about whether you work for or have ever worked for one of the other TM organizations. As Shemp and others suggested earlier, it's a coup. It is very DEFINITELY an attempt to create an alternative TM movement. I wish I could join, I bet ownership of a membership card would get you instant pariah status over here. I can see some people getting in a flap about all this for sure. As I suggested earlier, WHO THE FUCK CARES? This new TM movement is as laughable as the old one. Actually, I care because it's been a major part of my life for years and I still know a lot of people who will be affected by any break up. If it is a coup then for me it's like watching a soap opera where you personally know some of the characters. I almost want to be involved still so I can see what happens from the inside. Might even watch the channel for a while... Hmm, never thought I'd say that. Maybe you're too far away from it to feel any involvement so I guess it wouldn't look like much.I'm amazed they've done all this without telling Bev and the boys in Vlodrop. I think it's fascinating, better than anything on TV at the moment. Except the Tour de France of course. I agree. We know very well that this means diddley (sorry Bo) to the rest of the world Turq. But since we, at one time were deeply involved, it is fascinating to watch unfold, you know, like watching a train wreck.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Verma's site
Curtis wrote: I wonder why Girish wouldn't want to be ruled by Tony who comes from the area of the world who invaded Indian and crushed many Maharajas or the tubby dude from the prison colony of the Brits down under? The Lebanese invaded India and Australia?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Verma's site
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curtis wrote: I wonder why Girish wouldn't want to be ruled by Tony who comes from the area of the world who invaded Indian and crushed many Maharajas or the tubby dude from the prison colony of the Brits down under? The Lebanese invaded India and Australia? Too broad a brush perhaps? People from the Middle East invaded India numerous time. I don't know if King Tony's blood lines are from the exact same groups. Bevan is an Aussie isn't he? How could you possibly interpret what I wrote that the Lebanese invaded Australia? My point was that it does not surprise me that an Indian doesn't want to bow to any foreign outcaste.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Verma's site
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willytex@ wrote: Curtis wrote: I wonder why Girish wouldn't want to be ruled by Tony who comes from the area of the world who invaded Indian and crushed many Maharajas or the tubby dude from the prison colony of the Brits down under? The Lebanese invaded India and Australia? Too broad a brush perhaps? People from the Middle East invaded India numerous time. I don't know if King Tony's blood lines are from the exact same groups. Bevan is an Aussie isn't he? How could you possibly interpret what I wrote that the Lebanese invaded Australia? My point was that it does not surprise me that an Indian doesn't want to bow to any foreign outcaste. For what it's worth, Curtis (and please understand that the comment I made in my earlier post about your music being sucky was purely in jest, and that your GF really IS hot, just like I said in the note I included in your most recent check), I agree with your assessment here. And, since I'm in Go For It mood today, I believe that Maharishi both expected him to do just this, and would be pleased by it. Who sent all the billions to the Only People Who Count: Indians? Maharishi did. People I know carried suitcases of money to India for him *for the express purpose* of giving it to the Only People Who Count. I think that there is some truth in Shemp's earlier snip that he gave Westerners all that they deserved, and sent the cash to the Only People Who Mattered. If there is a race for the TM movement that best reflects Maharishi's thinking, I think Girish may possibly be in the lead.
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The Lebanese invaded India and Australia? Curtis wrote: Too broad a brush perhaps? People from the Middle East invaded India numerous time. There was no 'India' until 1947. I don't know if King Tony's blood lines are from the exact same groups. According to what I've read, Tony Nader comes from a Lebanese Christian family. Bevan is an Aussie isn't he? Apparently Bevan is a U.S. citizen. How could you possibly interpret what I wrote that the Lebanese invaded Australia? Because you said Tony Nader was an India invader? My point was that it does not surprise me that an Indian doesn't want to bow to any foreign outcaste. But, all Indians are invaders - there's no indigenous population in India. My point is that the Indians should just shut their pie-holes; it's the westerners that made the TMO a success. I'm tired of the TMO and MUM sending money over there to Marshy's relatives.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Verma's site
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk claudiouk@ wrote: Initiations for 18 to 65 year-olds costs Rs. 900 (about �10)- don't know whether that's a change and whether �10 worth is expensive for Indians.. http://peace-movement.net/participation.html That's not quite true, according to the site. Membership in the organization is listed as available at the following prices (currency conversions by a fairly accurate Website): 300 rupees ($7 US) for a student 900 rupees ($21 US) for an adult 600 rupees ($14 US) for a senior citizen 3000 rupees ($70 US) for a family 25000 rupees ($585 US) for a company According to the site itself, all that you get for your money is an Identity Card, one which will give you required honour, authority and identification as peace promoters. :-) The site does NOT say (at least I couldn't find it) that you're going to get anything BUT your Identity Card for those prices. There is nothing to suggest what the cost of TM or the TN-siddhis will be. Not that I care all that much, but if you're going to post stuff about this wannabee legend in his own mind, it should probably be accurate stuff. I bet you care enough to want to know what happens next ;-) On the other hand, *definitely* download the application form, and wait for the abysmally slow data transfer. It's worth it, because it demands information about your Caste and your Religion, your Computer Proficiency, your Occu- pation and Languages Spoken, not to mention whether you have ever been punished in a court of law or involved in any court cases. I think all of the TM teachers here know how important all of this information is in determining one's mantra. :-) What, you mean it isn't some hugely complex mystical formula followed by the teacher? There are more questions on the form, such as asking if you are *already* a practitioner of TM or the TM-siddhis (which indicates to me that you are NOT getting them for your sign-up fee when you apply), and a LOT of questions about whether you work for or have ever worked for one of the other TM organizations. As Shemp and others suggested earlier, it's a coup. It is very DEFINITELY an attempt to create an alternative TM movement. I wish I could join, I bet ownership of a membership card would get you instant pariah status over here. I can see some people getting in a flap about all this for sure. As I suggested earlier, WHO THE FUCK CARES? This new TM movement is as laughable as the old one. Actually, I care because it's been a major part of my life for years and I still know a lot of people who will be affected by any break up. If it is a coup then for me it's like watching a soap opera where you personally know some of the characters. I almost want to be involved still so I can see what happens from the inside. Might even watch the channel for a while... Hmm, never thought I'd say that. Maybe you're too far away from it to feel any involvement so I guess it wouldn't look like much.I'm amazed they've done all this without telling Bev and the boys in Vlodrop. I think it's fascinating, better than anything on TV at the moment. Except the Tour de France of course. I agree. We know very well that this means diddley (sorry Bo) to the rest of the world Turq. But since we, at one time were deeply involved, it is fascinating to watch unfold, you know, like watching a train wreck. It means diddley in India, too. Google Maharishi World Peace Movement and you get almost no hits. Even the Indian press has ignored it. It COULD become an issue for the TMO worldwide for various reasons, but I suspect that the world TMO has more resources to draw on that Girish's branch, even if he DID siphon off 40% of the money going into India. On the other hand, he's likely been planning this for a very long time. John Hagelin's experience playing games with Pat Buchanan may come in handy here. Lawson
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Verma's site
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] John Hagelin's experience playing games with Pat Buchanan may come in handy here. Gee, how did that work out for John?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Verma's site
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: [snip] John Hagelin's experience playing games with Pat Buchanan may come in handy here. Gee, how did that work out for John? Got cameo appearances on Larry King and an endorsement, eventually, from Ross Perot. Lawson
