[FairfieldLife] Re: Glenn Beck's ideas are really not that original

[WillyTex]

> > What was the name of that radical left-winger 
> > that married a Russian woman,and then murdered 
> > the President?
> >
mainstream wrote:
> "Patsy"
>
Right, a 'patsy' killed JFK, along with a second
person on the grassy knoll. Marina?

'Rule by Secrecy'
The Hidden History That Connects the Trilateral 
Commission, the Freemasons, and the Great Pyramids
By Jim Marrs
Harper, 2001
http://tinyurl.com/l7gqm3

[FairfieldLife] Re: Glenn Beck's ideas are really not that original

[mainstream20016]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex"  wrote:
>
> John wrote:
> > Which one actually got murdered, Shremp?
> > 
> What was the name of that radical left-winger 
> that married a Russian woman,and then murdered 
> the President?
>
   "Patsy"

[FairfieldLife] Re: Glenn Beck's ideas are really not that original

[WillyTex]

John wrote:
> Which one actually got murdered, Shremp?
> 
What was the name of that radical left-winger 
that married a Russian woman,and then murdered 
the President?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Glenn Beck's ideas are really not that original

[WillyTex]

Judy Stein wrote:
> I haven't read the book and don't have an 
> opinion one way or the other...
>
'Crossfire: The Plot That Killed Kennedy'
By Jim Marrs
Basic Books, 1993
http://tinyurl.com/noxnqv

[FairfieldLife] Re: Glenn Beck's ideas are really not that original

[Robert G.]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Judy Stein"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seekliberation"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > According to a thoroughly documented book on Kennedy [JFK and the 
> > > > Unspeakable], he was in the process of -ending- any military 
> > > > involvement in Viet Nam when he was murdered.
> > > >
> > > Too bad Lyndon Johnson took over.  I guess he and Kennedy didn't exactly 
> > > see eye to eye.   
>(snip)
They not only didn't see, eye to eye, the despised each other...
Johnson was jealous of the Kennedy's in all kinds of ways...

I suppose that it was presented to Johnson, that he might not be able to be 
President at all...he was picked as VP with Kennedy, in order to carry the 
racist south...
He probably figured, that with Kennedy's popularity, that he would have been 
elected again, and then his brother, Robert, would probably run and win, in 
1968...

So, the bastards in the murdering business, probably told him, that we need to 
stay in Viet Nam, and some other rationalizations, to take Kennedy out...

So, since that time, we the people, led by the Corporate/CIA types
Have spent, millions, billions and trillions on the war machine...
Thousands upon thousands of nuclear war heads...every possible expendenture, 
you could possibly think of...they had plenty of money for...
The 1980 election, was also manipulated by the CIA, so that Reagan won...
We all know the 2000 election was manipulated...
We all know that the Neo-Cons, had their agenda, which included a 
'Major Event' would be necessary to justify the 'Invasion of Iraq'...
We all know that Saddam Hussein, had nothing to do with 9/11...
Although the CIA domestic propaganda machine, had many convinced otherwise...
Now they are doing everything they can to keep the status quo...
All the cash in corporate/military hands...
The insurance money is wrapped up with the weapons builders, and the owners of 
the media...

The real question is: Have they consolidated their power to the extent that 
nothing can be done about it...
They own the Congress...
They own the Media..
They own the Weapons...

They are still in shock that Barack Obama won...and are freaking out, all over 
the place...
Thank God, for the introduction of Sarah Palin, as our saving grace, from a 
total take-over?
Can you imagine where we would be if that crew had won?

The original 'Manchurian Candidate' with his side-kick, Sarah 'The Witch' 
Palin...
Truth is stranger than fiction...

R.g.

Oh, well?

r.g.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Glenn Beck's ideas are really not that original

[Judy Stein]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seekliberation"  
> wrote:
> >
> > > According to a thoroughly documented book on Kennedy [JFK and the 
> > > Unspeakable], he was in the process of -ending- any military involvement 
> > > in Viet Nam when he was murdered.
> > >
> > Too bad Lyndon Johnson took over.  I guess he and Kennedy didn't exactly 
> > see eye to eye.   
> 
> From the book review:

The do.rkflex meant to write, "From one of 66 reader
reviews on Amazon." There are no editorial reviews
from established publications, although the book has
been out since April, which tells you something.

Here's an excerpt from another reader review:

"Of course there were many powerful individuals and
organizations who stood to benefit from harder stance
on the perceived communist threat of the time, but is
there evidence to suggest that Kennedy was removed
from office by a conspiracy that originated in the
highest level of office. James Douglass thinks so - 
and why wouldn't he? He places JFK on a pedestal,
lures the reader in to share his sentimentality on
"what might have been" and in doing so cleverly dupes
the reader into believing that such a great man could
surely not have been killed by some deranged 24 year
old nut case called Lee Harvey Oswald."

The reviewer goes on at some length to demolish a good
bit of the author's "thorough documentation."

Another negative review, from a strong Warren
Commission skeptic, states, "No critical mind familiar
with the assassination literature could possibly regard
this book as a contribution." This reviewer also calls
a hunk of the "thorough documentation" into serious
question.

And one of the commenters on the review the do.rkflex
quotes observes:

"The last four or five Kennedy assassination books I've
read respectively, comprehensively, and painstakingly
proved that the CIA did it, Castro did it, the Mob did
it, French drug dealers and right-wingers did it, etc.
One book even "proved" pretty convincingly that the last
shot was accidentally fired by a Secret Service agent.
Oh, yet another had extraordinary evidence linking
Oswald and Ruby to covert bio-weapons research and the
creation of the AIDS virus."

I haven't read the book and don't have an opinion one
way or the other (although I'm also a Warren Commission
skeptic). I just wanted to point out the absurdity--and
deliberate attempt to mislead--of the do.rkflex quoting
from an Amazon reader review of the book and calling it
"THE review," as if it were definitive, as if there could
be no other opinions.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Glenn Beck's ideas are really not that original

[do.rflex]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seekliberation"  
wrote:
>
> 
> > According to a thoroughly documented book on Kennedy [JFK and the 
> > Unspeakable], he was in the process of -ending- any military involvement in 
> > Viet Nam when he was murdered.
> >
> 
> 
> Too bad Lyndon Johnson took over.  I guess he and Kennedy didn't exactly see 
> eye to eye.   
> 



>From the book review:

"Lyndon Johnson, the CIA's ally, assumed the presidency. He cancelled talks 
with Khrushchev and refused Castro's pleas to continue the dialogue. He 
reversed JFK's withdrawal plan from Vietnam as well as his plan to neutralize 
Laos. The military industrial complex took control of the country. The policy 
of plausible deniability led the way to assassinations of foreign leaders, the 
overthrowing of foreign governments and horrors committed all over the globe.

If JFK had not been murdered, we would not have had the prolongation of the 
Cold War, the Vietnam War, Watergate, the purported War on Terror and the 
steady moral deterioration of America. Interestingly, one month after JFK's 
assassination, President Truman wrote an article for The Washington Post 
cautioning about the threat of the CIA taking over America.

The author meticulously examines the evidence and draws conclusions which ring 
with unassailable truth..."


--You can read the whole review here:
http://www.amazon.com/review/R1506ETKP24FOW/ref=cm_cr_rdp_perm




> Overall, there is no political party in America that can be thought of as 
> being peaceful.  WWI, WWII, Korea, and Vietnam were all started under 
> Democrat Presidents.  Bill Clinton has Somalia, Kosovo, Bosnia, and 
> Afghanistan on his resume.  
> 
> I wasn't exactly a big fan of GWB, but I don't see war as a 
> republican/conservative policy, it is more an 'American' policy.  Even Obama 
> is stirring up things in Pakistan and Waziristan, a region where Bush didn't 
> have the balls to go into.  
> 
> seekliberation
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Glenn Beck's ideas are really not that original

[do.rflex]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Which one actually got murdered, Shremp?
> > > 
> > > There have been such posters for virtually every president that ever 
> > > existed.
> > > 
> > > And perhaps we should compare Kennedy's kills versus Bush's since you are 
> > > so insistent upon scorecard politics: who killed more, Kennedy and his 
> > > Vietnam or Bush and his Iraq?
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > According to a thoroughly documented book on Kennedy [JFK and the 
> > Unspeakable], he was in the process of -ending- any military involvement in 
> > Viet Nam when he was murdered.
> >
> 
> ...and according to the recent 3-hour special on the Kennedy's that aired on 
> PBS right after Teddy's death, JFK had absolutely NO intention of leaving 
> Vietnam.
> 


"President Kennedy was aware of the power of his enemies and he knew the 
dangers facing him. But he persevered and mandated that all U.S. personnel 
would be withdrawn from Vietnam; he was determined to never send in combat 
troops even if this meant defeat. He also refused to intervene militarily in 
Laos."

- - - From the fully documented book I mentioned according to the review.


> So what's your point?
> 
> I'll tell you what you point was, John Manning, it was to try and tie in 
> people with incendiary posters about Obama with assassination...as if they 
> were the only ones who ever suggested such a thing.
> 
> My recent post with posters by the Left against Bush proves you wrong.
>


~~Barack Obama faces 30 death threats a day, stretching US Secret Service~~

Since Mr Obama took office, the rate of threats against the president has 
increased 400 per cent from the 3,000 a year or so under President George W. 
Bush, according to Ronald Kessler, author of In the President's Secret Service. 
- http://snipurl.com/s0b45

This has been widely reported. 

Since Obama's approval rating is at least 20 points higher than Bush's was for 
most of his second term, why do you think there's such a difference Shremp? Why 
do you think the death threats are 400% higher for Obama?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Glenn Beck's ideas are really not that original

[seekliberation]

> According to a thoroughly documented book on Kennedy [JFK and the 
> Unspeakable], he was in the process of -ending- any military involvement in 
> Viet Nam when he was murdered.
>


Too bad Lyndon Johnson took over.  I guess he and Kennedy didn't exactly see 
eye to eye.   

Overall, there is no political party in America that can be thought of as being 
peaceful.  WWI, WWII, Korea, and Vietnam were all started under Democrat 
Presidents.  Bill Clinton has Somalia, Kosovo, Bosnia, and Afghanistan on his 
resume.  

I wasn't exactly a big fan of GWB, but I don't see war as a 
republican/conservative policy, it is more an 'American' policy.  Even Obama is 
stirring up things in Pakistan and Waziristan, a region where Bush didn't have 
the balls to go into.  

seekliberation

[FairfieldLife] Re: Glenn Beck's ideas are really not that original

[ShempMcGurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Which one actually got murdered, Shremp?
> > 
> > There have been such posters for virtually every president that ever 
> > existed.
> > 
> > And perhaps we should compare Kennedy's kills versus Bush's since you are 
> > so insistent upon scorecard politics: who killed more, Kennedy and his 
> > Vietnam or Bush and his Iraq?
> > 
> 
> 
> According to a thoroughly documented book on Kennedy [JFK and the 
> Unspeakable], he was in the process of -ending- any military involvement in 
> Viet Nam when he was murdered.
>

...and according to the recent 3-hour special on the Kennedy's that aired on 
PBS right after Teddy's death, JFK had absolutely NO intention of leaving 
Vietnam.

So what's your point?

I'll tell you what you point was, John Manning, it was to try and tie in people 
with incendiary posters about Obama with assassination...as if they were the 
only ones who ever suggested such a thing.

My recent post with posters by the Left against Bush proves you wrong.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Glenn Beck's ideas are really not that original

[do.rflex]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Which one actually got murdered, Shremp?
> 
> There have been such posters for virtually every president that ever existed.
> 
> And perhaps we should compare Kennedy's kills versus Bush's since you are so 
> insistent upon scorecard politics: who killed more, Kennedy and his Vietnam 
> or Bush and his Iraq?
> 


According to a thoroughly documented book on Kennedy [JFK and the Unspeakable], 
he was in the process of -ending- any military involvement in Viet Nam when he 
was murdered.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Glenn Beck's ideas are really not that original

[ShempMcGurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> 
> Which one actually got murdered, Shremp?

There have been such posters for virtually every president that ever existed.

And perhaps we should compare Kennedy's kills versus Bush's since you are so 
insistent upon scorecard politics: who killed more, Kennedy and his Vietnam or 
Bush and his Iraq?




> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > A Handbill Circulated On November 21, 1963 In Dallas, Texas
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > > A Handbill Circulated On November 21, 1963 In Dallas, Texas
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Glenn Beck's ideas are really not that original

[ShempMcGurk]

No, Glenn Beck's ideas aren't that original...gee, I wonder where he got
them from?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Glenn Beck's ideas are really not that original

[do.rflex]

Which one actually got murdered, Shremp?


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> >
> >
> > A Handbill Circulated On November 21, 1963 In Dallas, Texas
> >
> >
> > 
> > A Handbill Circulated On November 21, 1963 In Dallas, Texas
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Glenn Beck's ideas are really not that original

[ShempMcGurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
>
>
> A Handbill Circulated On November 21, 1963 In Dallas, Texas
>
>
> 
> A Handbill Circulated On November 21, 1963 In Dallas, Texas
>