[FairfieldLife] Re: Glenn Beck's ideas are really not that original
Judy Stein wrote: I haven't read the book and don't have an opinion one way or the other... 'Crossfire: The Plot That Killed Kennedy' By Jim Marrs Basic Books, 1993 http://tinyurl.com/noxnqv
[FairfieldLife] Re: Glenn Beck's ideas are really not that original
John wrote: Which one actually got murdered, Shremp? What was the name of that radical left-winger that married a Russian woman,and then murdered the President?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Glenn Beck's ideas are really not that original
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote: John wrote: Which one actually got murdered, Shremp? What was the name of that radical left-winger that married a Russian woman,and then murdered the President? Patsy
[FairfieldLife] Re: Glenn Beck's ideas are really not that original
What was the name of that radical left-winger that married a Russian woman,and then murdered the President? mainstream wrote: Patsy Right, a 'patsy' killed JFK, along with a second person on the grassy knoll. Marina? 'Rule by Secrecy' The Hidden History That Connects the Trilateral Commission, the Freemasons, and the Great Pyramids By Jim Marrs Harper, 2001 http://tinyurl.com/l7gqm3
[FairfieldLife] Re: Glenn Beck's ideas are really not that original
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: A Handbill Circulated On November 21, 1963 In Dallas, Texas http://www.john-f-kennedy.net/ A Handbill Circulated On November 21, 1963 In Dallas, Texas
[FairfieldLife] Re: Glenn Beck's ideas are really not that original
Which one actually got murdered, Shremp? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: A Handbill Circulated On November 21, 1963 In Dallas, Texas http://www.john-f-kennedy.net/ A Handbill Circulated On November 21, 1963 In Dallas, Texas
[FairfieldLife] Re: Glenn Beck's ideas are really not that original
No, Glenn Beck's ideas aren't that original...gee, I wonder where he got them from?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Glenn Beck's ideas are really not that original
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: Which one actually got murdered, Shremp? There have been such posters for virtually every president that ever existed. And perhaps we should compare Kennedy's kills versus Bush's since you are so insistent upon scorecard politics: who killed more, Kennedy and his Vietnam or Bush and his Iraq? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: A Handbill Circulated On November 21, 1963 In Dallas, Texas http://www.john-f-kennedy.net/ A Handbill Circulated On November 21, 1963 In Dallas, Texas
[FairfieldLife] Re: Glenn Beck's ideas are really not that original
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: Which one actually got murdered, Shremp? There have been such posters for virtually every president that ever existed. And perhaps we should compare Kennedy's kills versus Bush's since you are so insistent upon scorecard politics: who killed more, Kennedy and his Vietnam or Bush and his Iraq? According to a thoroughly documented book on Kennedy [JFK and the Unspeakable], he was in the process of -ending- any military involvement in Viet Nam when he was murdered.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Glenn Beck's ideas are really not that original
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: Which one actually got murdered, Shremp? There have been such posters for virtually every president that ever existed. And perhaps we should compare Kennedy's kills versus Bush's since you are so insistent upon scorecard politics: who killed more, Kennedy and his Vietnam or Bush and his Iraq? According to a thoroughly documented book on Kennedy [JFK and the Unspeakable], he was in the process of -ending- any military involvement in Viet Nam when he was murdered. ...and according to the recent 3-hour special on the Kennedy's that aired on PBS right after Teddy's death, JFK had absolutely NO intention of leaving Vietnam. So what's your point? I'll tell you what you point was, John Manning, it was to try and tie in people with incendiary posters about Obama with assassination...as if they were the only ones who ever suggested such a thing. My recent post with posters by the Left against Bush proves you wrong.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Glenn Beck's ideas are really not that original
According to a thoroughly documented book on Kennedy [JFK and the Unspeakable], he was in the process of -ending- any military involvement in Viet Nam when he was murdered. Too bad Lyndon Johnson took over. I guess he and Kennedy didn't exactly see eye to eye. Overall, there is no political party in America that can be thought of as being peaceful. WWI, WWII, Korea, and Vietnam were all started under Democrat Presidents. Bill Clinton has Somalia, Kosovo, Bosnia, and Afghanistan on his resume. I wasn't exactly a big fan of GWB, but I don't see war as a republican/conservative policy, it is more an 'American' policy. Even Obama is stirring up things in Pakistan and Waziristan, a region where Bush didn't have the balls to go into. seekliberation
[FairfieldLife] Re: Glenn Beck's ideas are really not that original
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: Which one actually got murdered, Shremp? There have been such posters for virtually every president that ever existed. And perhaps we should compare Kennedy's kills versus Bush's since you are so insistent upon scorecard politics: who killed more, Kennedy and his Vietnam or Bush and his Iraq? According to a thoroughly documented book on Kennedy [JFK and the Unspeakable], he was in the process of -ending- any military involvement in Viet Nam when he was murdered. ...and according to the recent 3-hour special on the Kennedy's that aired on PBS right after Teddy's death, JFK had absolutely NO intention of leaving Vietnam. President Kennedy was aware of the power of his enemies and he knew the dangers facing him. But he persevered and mandated that all U.S. personnel would be withdrawn from Vietnam; he was determined to never send in combat troops even if this meant defeat. He also refused to intervene militarily in Laos. - - - From the fully documented book I mentioned according to the review. So what's your point? I'll tell you what you point was, John Manning, it was to try and tie in people with incendiary posters about Obama with assassination...as if they were the only ones who ever suggested such a thing. My recent post with posters by the Left against Bush proves you wrong. ~~Barack Obama faces 30 death threats a day, stretching US Secret Service~~ Since Mr Obama took office, the rate of threats against the president has increased 400 per cent from the 3,000 a year or so under President George W. Bush, according to Ronald Kessler, author of In the President's Secret Service. - http://snipurl.com/s0b45 This has been widely reported. Since Obama's approval rating is at least 20 points higher than Bush's was for most of his second term, why do you think there's such a difference Shremp? Why do you think the death threats are 400% higher for Obama?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Glenn Beck's ideas are really not that original
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberat...@... wrote: According to a thoroughly documented book on Kennedy [JFK and the Unspeakable], he was in the process of -ending- any military involvement in Viet Nam when he was murdered. Too bad Lyndon Johnson took over. I guess he and Kennedy didn't exactly see eye to eye. From the book review: Lyndon Johnson, the CIA's ally, assumed the presidency. He cancelled talks with Khrushchev and refused Castro's pleas to continue the dialogue. He reversed JFK's withdrawal plan from Vietnam as well as his plan to neutralize Laos. The military industrial complex took control of the country. The policy of plausible deniability led the way to assassinations of foreign leaders, the overthrowing of foreign governments and horrors committed all over the globe. If JFK had not been murdered, we would not have had the prolongation of the Cold War, the Vietnam War, Watergate, the purported War on Terror and the steady moral deterioration of America. Interestingly, one month after JFK's assassination, President Truman wrote an article for The Washington Post cautioning about the threat of the CIA taking over America. The author meticulously examines the evidence and draws conclusions which ring with unassailable truth... --You can read the whole review here: http://www.amazon.com/review/R1506ETKP24FOW/ref=cm_cr_rdp_perm Overall, there is no political party in America that can be thought of as being peaceful. WWI, WWII, Korea, and Vietnam were all started under Democrat Presidents. Bill Clinton has Somalia, Kosovo, Bosnia, and Afghanistan on his resume. I wasn't exactly a big fan of GWB, but I don't see war as a republican/conservative policy, it is more an 'American' policy. Even Obama is stirring up things in Pakistan and Waziristan, a region where Bush didn't have the balls to go into. seekliberation
[FairfieldLife] Re: Glenn Beck's ideas are really not that original
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@ wrote: According to a thoroughly documented book on Kennedy [JFK and the Unspeakable], he was in the process of -ending- any military involvement in Viet Nam when he was murdered. Too bad Lyndon Johnson took over. I guess he and Kennedy didn't exactly see eye to eye. From the book review: The do.rkflex meant to write, From one of 66 reader reviews on Amazon. There are no editorial reviews from established publications, although the book has been out since April, which tells you something. Here's an excerpt from another reader review: Of course there were many powerful individuals and organizations who stood to benefit from harder stance on the perceived communist threat of the time, but is there evidence to suggest that Kennedy was removed from office by a conspiracy that originated in the highest level of office. James Douglass thinks so - and why wouldn't he? He places JFK on a pedestal, lures the reader in to share his sentimentality on what might have been and in doing so cleverly dupes the reader into believing that such a great man could surely not have been killed by some deranged 24 year old nut case called Lee Harvey Oswald. The reviewer goes on at some length to demolish a good bit of the author's thorough documentation. Another negative review, from a strong Warren Commission skeptic, states, No critical mind familiar with the assassination literature could possibly regard this book as a contribution. This reviewer also calls a hunk of the thorough documentation into serious question. And one of the commenters on the review the do.rkflex quotes observes: The last four or five Kennedy assassination books I've read respectively, comprehensively, and painstakingly proved that the CIA did it, Castro did it, the Mob did it, French drug dealers and right-wingers did it, etc. One book even proved pretty convincingly that the last shot was accidentally fired by a Secret Service agent. Oh, yet another had extraordinary evidence linking Oswald and Ruby to covert bio-weapons research and the creation of the AIDS virus. I haven't read the book and don't have an opinion one way or the other (although I'm also a Warren Commission skeptic). I just wanted to point out the absurdity--and deliberate attempt to mislead--of the do.rkflex quoting from an Amazon reader review of the book and calling it THE review, as if it were definitive, as if there could be no other opinions.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Glenn Beck's ideas are really not that original
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Judy Stein jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@ wrote: According to a thoroughly documented book on Kennedy [JFK and the Unspeakable], he was in the process of -ending- any military involvement in Viet Nam when he was murdered. Too bad Lyndon Johnson took over. I guess he and Kennedy didn't exactly see eye to eye. (snip) They not only didn't see, eye to eye, the despised each other... Johnson was jealous of the Kennedy's in all kinds of ways... I suppose that it was presented to Johnson, that he might not be able to be President at all...he was picked as VP with Kennedy, in order to carry the racist south... He probably figured, that with Kennedy's popularity, that he would have been elected again, and then his brother, Robert, would probably run and win, in 1968... So, the bastards in the murdering business, probably told him, that we need to stay in Viet Nam, and some other rationalizations, to take Kennedy out... So, since that time, we the people, led by the Corporate/CIA types Have spent, millions, billions and trillions on the war machine... Thousands upon thousands of nuclear war heads...every possible expendenture, you could possibly think of...they had plenty of money for... The 1980 election, was also manipulated by the CIA, so that Reagan won... We all know the 2000 election was manipulated... We all know that the Neo-Cons, had their agenda, which included a 'Major Event' would be necessary to justify the 'Invasion of Iraq'... We all know that Saddam Hussein, had nothing to do with 9/11... Although the CIA domestic propaganda machine, had many convinced otherwise... Now they are doing everything they can to keep the status quo... All the cash in corporate/military hands... The insurance money is wrapped up with the weapons builders, and the owners of the media... The real question is: Have they consolidated their power to the extent that nothing can be done about it... They own the Congress... They own the Media.. They own the Weapons... They are still in shock that Barack Obama won...and are freaking out, all over the place... Thank God, for the introduction of Sarah Palin, as our saving grace, from a total take-over? Can you imagine where we would be if that crew had won? The original 'Manchurian Candidate' with his side-kick, Sarah 'The Witch' Palin... Truth is stranger than fiction... R.g. Oh, well? r.g.
