[FairfieldLife] Re: Homeland Security Warns of Rightwing Extremists
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote: on the other hand, i am happy to see more balance in the media vs the relentless right wing drumbeat by faux news and CNN that we've been subjected to over the last 8 years. maybe it means extremes at both ends of the spectrum for awhile, but even that is a welcome relief. the Ed Show is quite good. Let us not forget that the Department of Homeland Security is the lovechild of the Bush administration made possible by the Patriot Act signed in to law October 26, 2001 just 45 days after the September 11, 2001 attack on the World Trade Center. The DHS was meant to protect us from them but it can just as easily be used against us, the citizenry. This was the objection of the left when the DHS was formed, but now that the DHS is whipping up sentiment against right-wing extremists, even our veterans, for God's sake, and lumping conservative groups together, suddenly, the left thinks the DHS is just what this country needs to protect us from us. Thanks to Bush's Patriot Act I and II the DHS has broad powers. In a nutshell, you have no rights as a citizen. If the state says you are a terrorist, well, too bad, you are a terrorist. Lock 'em up and throw away the key. Bush kissed habeas corpus goodbye and it doesn't look like Obama is interested in raising it from the dead anytime soon. IMO listening to Ed Schultz is as grating on my nerves as listening to Rush Limbaugh. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives boo_lives@ wrote: The report came out just as a right wing militia type extremist killed several policemen and the right wing routinely discusses armed revolt against those it does not like. The DHS has not harassed one non violent right wing nutcase or puma, so please leave your oppression fantasies aside and teabag in peace. Obama says he won't raise your taxes. Right. He probably won't do it now, but he will have to do it in 2011 on his way out the door because we will be up to our eyeballs in debt. So here, we have concerned citizens, across party lines, pissed off at both the Democrats and Republicans, having tea parties protesting the indentured servitude they see for their families in the future and all they get is a cheap shot from the Obama toadies at MSNBC, Shuster and Maddow calling them tea-baggers. Real classy. Tea-bagging Urban Dictionary: The act of dipping a man's ball sack into another person's mouth with the intent of sexual gratification. It can be a heterosexual activity, but usually it is associated with gay men. I always find it interesting that the so-called liberal left, defenders of the oppressed, only give lip service to the support of gays and don't see any hypocrisy using a put down of gay men, tea-baggers, to disparage fellow citizens protesting rising taxes and out-of-control government spending. Ever since Obama started running for president, this country has lost it mind, manners and compassion. I always considered myself a progressive, but during the primary, I have never seen more cruelty in politics, threats, intimidation, verbal assaults, sexism, racism, lies and cheating than what Obama has allowed the left to dish out. The blogger boyz and the MSNBC talking heads that have fouled America with the stench of cruelty and disrespect for fellow citizens are despicable.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Homeland Security Warns of Rightwing Extremists
Nelson wrote: If you disagree with government policy you become a terrorist? Thing are starting to look suspicious - does anyone notice? Yes, things are starting to look very, very suspicious. Barry2 should be looking under his bed! Rightwing extremism, the report defines in a footnote on Page 2, goes beyond religious and racial hate groups and extends to those that are mainly anti-government, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority, or rejecting government authority entirely. Read more: 'Napolitano stands by 'extremism' report' By Audrey Hudson Washington Times, Thursday, April 16, 2009 http://tinyurl.com/cqhzwc The government considers you a terrorist threat if you oppose abortion, own a gun or are a returning war veteran. Read more: 'Chorus of Protest Grows Over Report Warning of Right Wing Radicalization' Fox News, Wednesday, April 15, 2009 http://tinyurl.com/cmbj4h
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guyfawkes wrote: I always find it very strange that the right-wing has these anti-semitic nut jobs... Yeah, very strange that the Europeans are among the most racist groups of people on the planet, but it's not surprising, since we've known this since before WW II. A poll commissioned by the ADL shows that 33% of Europeans blame the Jews for the financial meltdown. A mind-boggling 74% Spaniards think so. Read more: Poated by Glenn Reynolds Instapundit, February 11, 2009 http://tinyurl.com/b6nqoq
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willy...@... wrote: Nelson wrote: If you disagree with government policy you become a terrorist? Thing are starting to look suspicious - does anyone notice? Yes, things are starting to look very, very suspicious. Barry2 should be looking under his bed! So comforting to see republicans hating their country again. the 8 yrs they spent loving it under bush almost ruined us. the 8 yrs they spent fantasizing about being persecuted under clinton were great for the economy.
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Richard J. Williams wrote: Nelson wrote: If you disagree with government policy you become a terrorist? Thing are starting to look suspicious - does anyone notice? Yes, things are starting to look very, very suspicious. Barry2 should be looking under his bed! Nah, the way that government works they would probably want to make me the block warden. ;-)
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On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 8:06 AM, Richard J. Williams willy...@yahoo.com wrote: guyfawkes wrote: Yeah, very strange that the Europeans are among the most racist groups of people on the planet, but it's not surprising, since we've known this since before WW II. A poll commissioned by the ADL shows that 33% of Europeans blame the Jews for the financial meltdown. A mind-boggling 74% Spaniards think so. And the Europeans have a reason to be racist against the Jews. When the massive voyages for trade began after Columbus discovered America, there was the need for lots of capital, i.e. banks. Now the Christians decided that loaning money and collecting interest on it was not biblical, so the Jews were given/ordered to do the job. The Jews did well in their new role as money lenders. A lot of resentment was generated amongst the Christians and hence the numerous epic poems putting Jews in a bad light and the Shakespearean play where a pound of flesh was involved. Fast forward to Poland where the king of Poland realized that he wasn't turning the profit he wanted on his kingdom, so he divided it up and put Jews in charge of the pieces. These Jews had the power of life and death over his subjects and of course their charge was to turn a handsome profit over to the king. They had to, of course, prosper as well. So of course the Europeans associated Jews with finance and further, as greedy bastards with no morals. True or not, that's the way they were portrayed and old memories die hard. If certain asshats on FFL want to sling the judgement racist' at me, I'll say ahead of time, kiss my ass.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: Just as Bush tried to squash free speech by rounding up protesters the Republican National Convention in New York in 2004, the hyper vigilance of the DHS will be the undoing of what little we have left of the bill of rights. Get this straight. Most people who go to a protest, whether on the left of right of the political spectrum are law abiding citizens who do not mean the president harm. Er, they are not talking about protesters dummy. They are talking about right-wing armed militia who intend to operate outside the bounds of the law. OffWorld It is not a coincidence the DHS report came out just in time for the Tea Party protests. Make no mistake about it, this is a warning to the people who disagree with Obama. The DHS report conveniently leaves out any reference to leftist groups and lumps all conservatives in with a small number of extremists. Shockingly, they also include veterans because they can be turned into Timothy McVeys by extremist groups. So now we should fear veterans? Ridiculous. The DHS is an unaccountable political arm of whatever party is in power; first Bush and now Obama. We should disband the entire organization. The right wing wanted the DHS until Obama got it and the left wanted to shut it down when Bush had it. Either way, it only points out the obvious; it is a political organization, that can exert the sort of power not anticipated by the framers of the Constitution. Shepard Smith blows the 'DHS is picking on the Tea Parties' meme out of the water http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/shepard-smith-blows-dhs-picking-tea http://is.gd/sNfx Turns out, there was also a DHS assessment of left-wing groups as well and that both assessments were commissioned under the Bush administration. It's pretty funny that this meme was debunked on Faux Noise, of all places.
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I am the eternal wrote: On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 8:06 AM, Richard J. Williams willy...@yahoo.com wrote: guyfawkes wrote: Yeah, very strange that the Europeans are among the most racist groups of people on the planet, but it's not surprising, since we've known this since before WW II. A poll commissioned by the ADL shows that 33% of Europeans blame the Jews for the financial meltdown. A mind-boggling 74% Spaniards think so. And the Europeans have a reason to be racist against the Jews. When the massive voyages for trade began after Columbus discovered America, there was the need for lots of capital, i.e. banks. Now the Christians decided that loaning money and collecting interest on it was not biblical, so the Jews were given/ordered to do the job. The Jews did well in their new role as money lenders. A lot of resentment was generated amongst the Christians and hence the numerous epic poems putting Jews in a bad light and the Shakespearean play where a pound of flesh was involved. Fast forward to Poland where the king of Poland realized that he wasn't turning the profit he wanted on his kingdom, so he divided it up and put Jews in charge of the pieces. These Jews had the power of life and death over his subjects and of course their charge was to turn a handsome profit over to the king. They had to, of course, prosper as well. So of course the Europeans associated Jews with finance and further, as greedy bastards with no morals. True or not, that's the way they were portrayed and old memories die hard. If certain asshats on FFL want to sling the judgement racist' at me, I'll say ahead of time, kiss my ass. I've seen Rabbis point to what you mention and say see, we did it to ourselves. Seems these days the Fauxbots and Ditto Heads like to call people racists more quickly than liberals ever have as a trick to get the left to back down and to distract from their own racism.
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A poll commissioned by the ADL shows that 33% of Europeans blame the Jews for the financial meltdown. A mind-boggling 74% Spaniards think so. L.Shaddai wrote: And the Europeans have a reason to be racist against the Jews... You fukin' dunderhead - the Jews are'nt a 'race' of people, they are a culture. What you've shown here is that you are just a simple bigot who is ignorant of history or science. Get some smarts. In many parts of the world, the idea of race became a way of rigidly dividing groups by culture as well as by physical appearances. Campaigns of oppression and genocide were often motivated by supposed racial differences. Source: http://tinyurl.com/5fxrkc
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Bhairitu wrote: I've seen Rabbis point to what you mention and say see, we did it to ourselves. Seems these days the Fauxbots and Ditto Heads like to call people racists more quickly than liberals ever have as a trick to get the left to back down and to distract from their own racism. So, how many responds on FFL believe that the current economic situation was caused by the Jewish 'race'? Alex Jones doesn't believe that Jews have much of an influence on America. A poll commissioned by the ADL shows that 33% of Europeans blame the Jews for the financial meltdown. A mind-boggling 74% Spaniards think so.
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Yes, things are starting to look very, very suspicious. Barry2 should be looking under his bed! Barry2 wrote: Nah, the way that government works they would probably want to make me the block warden. Maybe so. Protesting is a good thing - it's good for democracy. Anyone who opposes the free right to protest is opposed to democracy. Protest, in order to effective, must be disruptive. It must wake people up. But, if you try to protest in any way that distrupts anything, the government sends in swat teams in riot gear. This is not good for democracy. You already know that, since you are a protester.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal l.shad...@... wrote: On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 8:06 AM, Richard J. Williams willy...@... wrote: guyfawkes wrote: Yeah, very strange that the Europeans are among the most racist groups of people on the planet, but it's not surprising, since we've known this since before WW II. A poll commissioned by the ADL shows that 33% of Europeans blame the Jews for the financial meltdown. A mind-boggling 74% Spaniards think so. And the Europeans have a reason to be racist against the Jews. When the massive voyages for trade began after Columbus discovered America, there was the need for lots of capital, i.e. banks. Now the Christians decided that loaning money and collecting interest on it was not biblical, so the Jews were given/ordered to do the job. The Jews did well in their new role as money lenders. A lot of resentment was generated amongst the Christians and hence the numerous epic poems putting Jews in a bad light and the Shakespearean play where a pound of flesh was involved. Fast forward to Poland where the king of Poland realized that he wasn't turning the profit he wanted on his kingdom, so he divided it up and put Jews in charge of the pieces. These Jews had the power of life and death over his subjects and of course their charge was to turn a handsome profit over to the king. They had to, of course, prosper as well. So of course the Europeans associated Jews with finance and further, as greedy bastards with no morals. True or not, that's the way they were portrayed and old memories die hard. If certain asshats on FFL want to sling the judgement racist' at me, I'll say ahead of time, kiss my ass. What did you hope to accomplish with this post? Haven't we seen this movie before. The so-called Christians, bow down before thier Jewish God, Jesus... So, they are the ultimate hypocites. The original commandment for the Jews, was to not loan money at interest... I'm not sure why this prejudice continues. It's all so stupid. Scapegoating does die hard. It so much easier to point your finger, at some one else for your troubles... It all just creates more karma to be worked out later. Money, war and oil... Follow the money. R.G.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives boo_li...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willytex@ wrote: Nelson wrote: If you disagree with government policy you become a terrorist? Thing are starting to look suspicious - does anyone notice? Yes, things are starting to look very, very suspicious. Barry2 should be looking under his bed! So comforting to see republicans hating their country again. the 8 yrs they spent loving it under bush almost ruined us. the 8 yrs they spent fantasizing about being persecuted under clinton were great for the economy. I would think that most of us would say this country is the best and so resent either administrations efforts to dismantle it.
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Just as Bush tried to squash free speech by rounding up protesters the Republican National Convention in New York in 2004, the hyper vigilance of the DHS will be the undoing of what little we have left of the bill of rights. Get this straight. Most people who go to a protest, whether on the left of right of the political spectrum are law abiding citizens who do not mean the president harm. If you cheer an indiscriminate sweep of protesters in a climate of paranoia, or spying on fellow citizens with whom you disagree, you risk sacrificing your own right to petition your government and so much more. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: [Fueled by the corporate sponsored FOX Noise Ministry of Information] MIAMI (Reuters) - Right-wing extremists in the United States are gaining new recruits by exploiting fears about the economy and the election of the first black U.S. president, the Department of Homeland Security warned in a report to law enforcement officials. The April 7 report, which Reuters and other news media obtained on Tuesday, said such fears were driving a resurgence in recruitment and radicalization activity by white supremacist groups, antigovernment extremists and militia movements. It did not identify any by name. DHS had no specific information about pending violence and said threats had so far been largely rhetorical. But it warned that home foreclosures, unemployment and other consequences of the economic recession could create a fertile recruiting environment for right-wing extremists. To the extent that these factors persist, right-wing extremism is likely to grow in strength, DHS said. The report warned that military veterans returning from Iraq and Afghanistan with combat skills could be recruitment targets, especially those having trouble finding jobs or fitting back into civilian society. The department is concerned that right-wing extremists will attempt to recruit and radicalize returning veterans in order to boost their violent capabilities, the report said. DHS spokeswoman Sara Kuban said on Tuesday the report was one of an ongoing series of threat assessments aimed at a greater understanding of violent radicalization in the U.S. A similar assessment of left-wing radicals completed in January was distributed to federal, state and local police agencies at that time. These assessments are done all the time, this is nothing unusual, Kuban said. The Department of Homeland Security was formed in response to the September 11 attacks of 2001 and has focused largely on threats from Islamist extremists. The report said domestic right-wing terrorist groups grew during the economic recession of the early 1990s but subsided as the economy improved. Government scrutiny disrupted violent plots following the April 1995 bombing of a federal building in Oklahoma City by Army veteran Timothy McVeigh which killed 168 people. LONE WOLVES Despite similarities to the climate of the 1990s, the threat posed by lone wolves and small terrorist cells is more pronounced than in past years, the report said. The Internet has made it easier to locate specific targets, communicate with like-minded people and find information on bombs and weapons, it said. Extremist groups are preying on fears that President Barack Obama, the first African American U.S. president, would restrict gun ownership, boost immigration and expand social programs for minorities, the report said. It said such groups were also exploiting anti-Semitic sentiment with accusations that a cabal of Jewish financial elites had conspired to collapse the economy. This trend is likely to accelerate if the economy is perceived to worsen, the report said. === Rightwing extremist groups may be on the rise amid the current social and economic situation, describes a new report from the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). The report was released Tuesday in coordination with the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and was sent to various state, federal, and law enforcement officials to alert them of the potential threat. The report is called Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment. It addresses growing white supremacist and rightwing extremist groups and the stockpiling of weapons amid the election of the first African American president, liberal policy changes, possible gun restrictions, and an economic downturn. The groups are using such issues to recruit new members, create propaganda and mobilize those already in support of their cause. Although the groups have not indicated plans to carry out violent acts, these issues could create a fertile recruiting environment for rightwing extremists and even result in confrontations between such groups and government authorities
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A more recent example of violence from these groups was seen on April 4, 2009 when a man shot dead three police officers in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. The gunman's reactions were influenced by his racist ideology and belief in antigovernment conspiracy theories related to gun confiscations, citizen detention camps, and a Jewish-controlled 'one world government,' the report says. Racism in general is a major problem. According to the report, issues of job loss and home foreclosures have been a hot topic for the rightwing extremists in online discussions—issues that the anti-Semitic groups are blaming on deliberate conspiracy conducted by a cabal of Jewish 'financial entities.' I always find it very strange that the right-wing has these anti-semitic nut jobs, and yet they voted for Bush who pretty much let Israel take de-facto control of US foreign policy. It's just so weird that the same people who think US interests are the same as Israeli interests are mixing with people who fear the US is going to be taken over by a Jewish world government.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: Just as Bush tried to squash free speech by rounding up protesters the Republican National Convention in New York in 2004, the hyper vigilance of the DHS will be the undoing of what little we have left of the bill of rights. Get this straight. Most people who go to a protest, whether on the left of right of the political spectrum are law abiding citizens who do not mean the president harm. Er, they are not talking about protesters dummy. They are talking about right-wing armed militia who intend to operate outside the bounds of the law. OffWorld
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: Just as Bush tried to squash free speech by rounding up protesters the Republican National Convention in New York in 2004, the hyper vigilance of the DHS will be the undoing of what little we have left of the bill of rights. Get this straight. Most people who go to a protest, whether on the left of right of the political spectrum are law abiding citizens who do not mean the president harm. If you cheer an indiscriminate sweep of protesters in a climate of paranoia, or spying on fellow citizens with whom you disagree, you risk sacrificing your own right to petition your government and so much more. snip If you disagree with government policy you become a terrorist? Thing are starting to look suspicious- does anyone notice?
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: Just as Bush tried to squash free speech by rounding up protesters the Republican National Convention in New York in 2004, the hyper vigilance of the DHS will be the undoing of what little we have left of the bill of rights. Get this straight. Most people who go to a protest, whether on the left of right of the political spectrum are law abiding citizens who do not mean the president harm. Er, they are not talking about protesters dummy. They are talking about right-wing armed militia who intend to operate outside the bounds of the law. OffWorld It is not a coincidence the DHS report came out just in time for the Tea Party protests. Make no mistake about it, this is a warning to the people who disagree with Obama. The DHS report conveniently leaves out any reference to leftist groups and lumps all conservatives in with a small number of extremists. Shockingly, they also include veterans because they can be turned into Timothy McVeys by extremist groups. So now we should fear veterans? Ridiculous. The DHS is an unaccountable political arm of whatever party is in power; first Bush and now Obama. We should disband the entire organization. The right wing wanted the DHS until Obama got it and the left wanted to shut it down when Bush had it. Either way, it only points out the obvious; it is a political organization, that can exert the sort of power not anticipated by the framers of the Constitution. Anyone who trades liberty for security deserves neither liberty nor security. Benjamin Franklin Youtube: Obama's Response Tea Party Movement http://tinyurl.com/c34y2v
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: Just as Bush tried to squash free speech by rounding up protesters the Republican National Convention in New York in 2004, the hyper vigilance of the DHS will be the undoing of what little we have left of the bill of rights. Get this straight. Most people who go to a protest, whether on the left of right of the political spectrum are law abiding citizens who do not mean the president harm. Er, they are not talking about protesters dummy. They are talking about right-wing armed militia who intend to operate outside the bounds of the law. OffWorld Wasn't that a similar case in the late seventeen hundreds?
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: Just as Bush tried to squash free speech by rounding up protesters the Republican National Convention in New York in 2004, the hyper vigilance of the DHS will be the undoing of what little we have left of the bill of rights. Get this straight. Most people who go to a protest, whether on the left of right of the political spectrum are law abiding citizens who do not mean the president harm. Er, they are not talking about protesters dummy. They are talking about right-wing armed militia who intend to operate outside the bounds of the law. OffWorld It is not a coincidence the DHS report came out just in time for the Tea Party protests. Make no mistake about it, this is a warning to the people who disagree with Obama. The report came out just as a right wing militia type extremist killed several policemen and the right wing routinely discusses armed revolt against those it does not like. The DHS has not harassed one non violent right wing nutcase or puma, so please leave your oppression fantasies aside and teabag in peace. The DHS report conveniently leaves out any reference to leftist groups and lumps all conservatives in with a small number of extremists. Shockingly, they also include veterans because they can be turned into Timothy McVeys by extremist groups. So now we should fear veterans? Ridiculous. The DHS is an unaccountable political arm of whatever party is in power; first Bush and now Obama. We should disband the entire organization. The right wing wanted the DHS until Obama got it and the left wanted to shut it down when Bush had it. Either way, it only points out the obvious; it is a political organization, that can exert the sort of power not anticipated by the framers of the Constitution. Anyone who trades liberty for security deserves neither liberty nor security. Benjamin Franklin Youtube: Obama's Response Tea Party Movement http://tinyurl.com/c34y2v
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson nelsonriddle2...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: Just as Bush tried to squash free speech by rounding up protesters the Republican National Convention in New York in 2004, the hyper vigilance of the DHS will be the undoing of what little we have left of the bill of rights. Get this straight. Most people who go to a protest, whether on the left of right of the political spectrum are law abiding citizens who do not mean the president harm. Er, they are not talking about protesters dummy. They are talking about right-wing armed militia who intend to operate outside the bounds of the law. OffWorld Wasn't that a similar case in the late seventeen hundreds? Yes, if you are referring to the Continental Army, which ...had no money, and few soldiers. The Continental Congress raised eight companies of soldiers, each numbering 120 men. These companies were made up entirely of cripples, invalids, blind men, and men missing arms and legs. But, they were fighting on there own land, for their own land, and for freedom. And, they had a great leader. They got supplies by stealing them from the British. (Fort Ticonderoga) George Washington lamented that the Continental Army had 'very little discipline, order or government' at the beginning of the Revolutionary War. As the war progressed, his soldiers learned European military drill, and combined it with their determination and frontier know-how to defeat the redcoats, one of the world's best-trained and best-equipped armies. Is the DHS preparing to squash a Revolutionary War? It sure as hell sounds like it. IMO the power of the DHS is more frightening and a greater danger to our freedom than any threat an extremist group could pose to the president. My God, if any president was ever in danger of getting whacked, it is likely it would have been Bush than the popular president we now have, Obama. Bush is still standing and Obama will as well, and without the machinations and propaganda of the DHS scaring the shit out of us, causing us to be paranoid and mistrust our fellow citizens. Divide and conquer. It's an old trick, doncha know.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives boo_li...@... wrote: The report came out just as a right wing militia type extremist killed several policemen and the right wing routinely discusses armed revolt against those it does not like. The DHS has not harassed one non violent right wing nutcase or puma, so please leave your oppression fantasies aside and teabag in peace. Obama says he won't raise your taxes. Right. He probably won't do it now, but he will have to do it in 2011 on his way out the door because we will be up to our eyeballs in debt. So here, we have concerned citizens, across party lines, pissed off at both the Democrats and Republicans, having tea parties protesting the indentured servitude they see for their families in the future and all they get is a cheap shot from the Obama toadies at MSNBC, Shuster and Maddow calling them tea-baggers. Real classy. Tea-bagging Urban Dictionary: The act of dipping a man's ball sack into another person's mouth with the intent of sexual gratification. It can be a heterosexual activity, but usually it is associated with gay men. I always find it interesting that the so-called liberal left, defenders of the oppressed, only give lip service to the support of gays and don't see any hypocrisy using a put down of gay men, tea-baggers, to disparage fellow citizens protesting rising taxes and out-of-control government spending. Ever since Obama started running for president, this country has lost it mind, manners and compassion. I always considered myself a progressive, but during the primary, I have never seen more cruelty in politics, threats, intimidation, verbal assaults, sexism, racism, lies and cheating than what Obama has allowed the left to dish out. The blogger boyz and the MSNBC talking heads that have fouled America with the stench of cruelty and disrespect for fellow citizens are despicable.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Homeland Security Warns of Rightwing Extremists
on the other hand, i am happy to see more balance in the media vs the relentless right wing drumbeat by faux news and CNN that we've been subjected to over the last 8 years. maybe it means extremes at both ends of the spectrum for awhile, but even that is a welcome relief. the Ed Show is quite good. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives boo_lives@ wrote: The report came out just as a right wing militia type extremist killed several policemen and the right wing routinely discusses armed revolt against those it does not like. The DHS has not harassed one non violent right wing nutcase or puma, so please leave your oppression fantasies aside and teabag in peace. Obama says he won't raise your taxes. Right. He probably won't do it now, but he will have to do it in 2011 on his way out the door because we will be up to our eyeballs in debt. So here, we have concerned citizens, across party lines, pissed off at both the Democrats and Republicans, having tea parties protesting the indentured servitude they see for their families in the future and all they get is a cheap shot from the Obama toadies at MSNBC, Shuster and Maddow calling them tea-baggers. Real classy. Tea-bagging Urban Dictionary: The act of dipping a man's ball sack into another person's mouth with the intent of sexual gratification. It can be a heterosexual activity, but usually it is associated with gay men. I always find it interesting that the so-called liberal left, defenders of the oppressed, only give lip service to the support of gays and don't see any hypocrisy using a put down of gay men, tea-baggers, to disparage fellow citizens protesting rising taxes and out-of-control government spending. Ever since Obama started running for president, this country has lost it mind, manners and compassion. I always considered myself a progressive, but during the primary, I have never seen more cruelty in politics, threats, intimidation, verbal assaults, sexism, racism, lies and cheating than what Obama has allowed the left to dish out. The blogger boyz and the MSNBC talking heads that have fouled America with the stench of cruelty and disrespect for fellow citizens are despicable.
