[FairfieldLife] Re: I quit -- question for Rick or the other moderators (since he's away)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Hey, Rick, Alex, gullible_fool, et al, The following claim by Judy has me curious. Has anyone unsubscribed or stalked off of FFL in a snit citing me as a reason recently? The only info I receive are system-generated notices that someone has unsubscribed. I have received no private emails containing reasons for unsubscribing. Thanks for replying. I was curious. And Jim's still finishing up his latest two weeks in the penalty box, Jim unsubscribed a couple days ago. That must be what Judy is referring to. Obviously, Jim is staying in contact via email with her. I formally apologize if he actually believes or said that he chose to bail because of my nastiness and dishonesty. But I suspect that Judy made that up. Jim doesn't talk that way, and she does. I wasn't trying to be nasty, and I was never in the least dishonest when dealing with him, or with anyone else here. The only thing I deal in is opinion, my own. I did, and do, have an opinion about anyone who claims the mantle of enlightenment and who doesn't walk the walk that history associates with enlightenment. And I have nothing to apologize for for feeling that way. Edg Duveyoung last posted back in May, but left with- out a goodbye or stating a reason for taking off, as I remember. Edg is still subscribed and config'd with the no email option. Hope he's doing well. Hope Jim is, too.
[FairfieldLife] Re: I quit -- question for Rick or the other moderators (since he's away)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip If my memory isn't faulty, t'would seem that Judy felt the need to...uh...stretch the truth a bit (if not... dare I say it...actually LIE) in the fervor of one of her Gotta Trash Barry moments. I'll be interested to see what she has to say about this claim when she returns. I don't have anything to say about it, other than that of course I stand by it. Unless Barry's REELY REELY STOOOPID, he ought to have been able to come up with an additional possibility, in which what I wrote is 100% accurate and the faultiness of his memory is completely irrelevant. In other words, either Judy's information came from Jim in email, and she reformulated his words about unsubscribing into her own claims of my nastiness and dishonesty, or she made it up and now resents being called on having made it up. You decide. Have you *ever* seen Judy shirk from providing a reference to back up what she'd claimed when there really was such a reference?
[FairfieldLife] Re: I quit -- question for Rick or the other moderators (since he's away)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip If my memory isn't faulty, t'would seem that Judy felt the need to...uh...stretch the truth a bit (if not... dare I say it...actually LIE) in the fervor of one of her Gotta Trash Barry moments. I'll be interested to see what she has to say about this claim when she returns. I don't have anything to say about it, other than that of course I stand by it. Unless Barry's REELY REELY STOOOPID, he ought to have been able to come up with an additional possibility, in which what I wrote is 100% accurate and the faultiness of his memory is completely irrelevant. Ok, I think that there will be no complaint from anyone here if I characterize Judy as the person who has most often demanded that people back up their claims on this forum. It's almost her trade- mark. Well, turnabout is fair play. Judy, please produce two things to back up the following claim: We recently lost an extremely valuable long-time poster because of Barry's nastiness and dishonesty. 1. Please supply the name or screen name of the poster you claim left FFL because of Barry's nastiness and dishonesty. 2. Please supply documentation that this is the reason they gave for leaving. If it's a message on FFL, please give us the message number. If it is a private email, please ask for permission to repost that email here verbatim. (Or, when you give us the person's name, we can simply write to the person and ask them whether your representation of why they left FFL is accurate.) I'm really curious as to how you will respond to this, Judy. It really IS doing a Judy on YOU, and turnabout is fair play. Above you stand by the claim, but with no backup. I think everyone here knows that if anyone else did that when YOU had challenged them to back up one of their claims, the next words out of your mouth would be a variant of, See...I told you so...he/she is LYING! Try as I might, I am unable to substantiate your claim using the Yahoo Search Engine. Alex has failed to sub- stantiate it. The only references to 'nastiness' on this forum since June 1 (other than in this thread) have been one case of someone referring to the TMO, and another case of someone using that term to refer to YOU. Similarly, I can find no references to anyone bailing from FFL, citing me as a reason, even IF that reason was not precisely because of Barry's nastiness and dishonesty. You made a claim, Judy. And now the only thing you have to say when that claim is challenged is that you stand by it. I suppose we're supposed to take your word for it, because as you say so often, you never lie. Uh-huh. Aren't you the person who claimed that if Obama secured the nomination that as a good Democrat you would support him fully? Given some of the things you've said on this forum since and the negative nature of the articles you repost, I cannot help but assume that either you have a different definition of what support means than I do, or you have a different definition of what I never lie means than I do. Two simple questions, Judy. Questions that YOU would be asking of anyone who made a similarly negative claim about YOU to produce. If the person YOU challenged failed to respond to two such questions, you would assume that they were lying, and call them a LIAR! here. We've seen it happen dozens of times, if not hundreds. If you fail to answer these two questions, I think we have the right to respond similarly to you. Remember -- it has to be recent, it has to have been a long-time poster, and you have to be able to document that we lost them because of my nastiness and dishonesty. That was what you said. Back it up.
[FairfieldLife] Re: I quit -- question for Rick or the other moderators (since he's away)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And Jim's still finishing up his latest two weeks in the penalty box, Jim unsubscribed a couple days ago. I wasn't trying to be nasty, and I was never in the least dishonest when dealing with him, or with anyone else here. Quote of the week !
[FairfieldLife] Re: I quit -- question for Rick or the other moderators (since he's away)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip If my memory isn't faulty, t'would seem that Judy felt the need to...uh...stretch the truth a bit (if not... dare I say it...actually LIE) in the fervor of one of her Gotta Trash Barry moments. I'll be interested to see what she has to say about this claim when she returns. I don't have anything to say about it, other than that of course I stand by it. Unless Barry's REELY REELY STOOOPID, he ought to have been able to come up with an additional possibility, in which what I wrote is 100% accurate and the faultiness of his memory is completely irrelevant. Ok, I think that there will be no complaint from anyone here if I characterize Judy as the person who has most often demanded that people back up their claims on this forum. It's almost her trade- mark. Well, turnabout is fair play. Judy, please produce two things to back up the following claim: We recently lost an extremely valuable long-time poster because of Barry's nastiness and dishonesty. 1. Please supply the name or screen name of the poster you claim left FFL because of Barry's nastiness and dishonesty. 2. Please supply documentation that this is the reason they gave for leaving. If it's a message on FFL, please give us the message number. If it is a private email, please ask for permission to repost that email here verbatim. (Or, when you give us the person's name, we can simply write to the person and ask them whether your representation of why they left FFL is accurate.) I'm really curious as to how you will respond to this, Judy. It really IS doing a Judy on YOU, and turnabout is fair play. Above you stand by the claim, but with no backup. I think everyone here knows that if anyone else did that when YOU had challenged them to back up one of their claims, the next words out of your mouth would be a variant of, See...I told you so...he/she is LYING! Actually, usually I just note that the person refuses to back up the claim and let others come to their own conclusions. In this case, I'd have to reveal a private communication, which I'm not going to do. And I can't recall ever having demanded that anybody else do so. Try as I might, I am unable to substantiate your claim using the Yahoo Search Engine. How much time have you spent on this so far, Barry? giggle snip You made a claim, Judy. And now the only thing you have to say when that claim is challenged is that you stand by it. I suppose we're supposed to take your word for it, because as you say so often, you never lie. Exactly. Uh-huh. Aren't you the person who claimed that if Obama secured the nomination that as a good Democrat you would support him fully? Given some of the things you've said on this forum since and the negative nature of the articles you repost, I cannot help but assume that either you have a different definition of what support means than I do, or you have a different definition of what I never lie means than I do. Well, one difference in our definition of lie, apparently, is that if one changes one's mind for some reason, that doesn't mean what one said to start with was a lie. Oh, and by the way, you've now documented that you're REELY REELY STOOOPID.
[FairfieldLife] Re: I quit -- question for Rick or the other moderators (since he's away)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I wasn't trying to be nasty, and I was never in the least dishonest when dealing with him, or with anyone else here. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
[FairfieldLife] Re: I quit -- question for Rick or the other moderators (since he's away)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip If my memory isn't faulty, t'would seem that Judy felt the need to...uh...stretch the truth a bit (if not... dare I say it...actually LIE) in the fervor of one of her Gotta Trash Barry moments. I'll be interested to see what she has to say about this claim when she returns. I don't have anything to say about it, other than that of course I stand by it. Unless Barry's REELY REELY STOOOPID, he ought to have been able to come up with an additional possibility, in which what I wrote is 100% accurate and the faultiness of his memory is completely irrelevant. Ok, I think that there will be no complaint from anyone here if I characterize Judy as the person who has most often demanded that people back up their claims on this forum. It's almost her trade- mark. Well, turnabout is fair play. Judy, please produce two things to back up the following claim: We recently lost an extremely valuable long-time poster because of Barry's nastiness and dishonesty. 1. Please supply the name or screen name of the poster you claim left FFL because of Barry's nastiness and dishonesty. 2. Please supply documentation that this is the reason they gave for leaving. If it's a message on FFL, please give us the message number. If it is a private email, please ask for permission to repost that email here verbatim. (Or, when you give us the person's name, we can simply write to the person and ask them whether your representation of why they left FFL is accurate.) I'm really curious as to how you will respond to this, Judy. It really IS doing a Judy on YOU, and turnabout is fair play. Above you stand by the claim, but with no backup. I think everyone here knows that if anyone else did that when YOU had challenged them to back up one of their claims, the next words out of your mouth would be a variant of, See...I told you so...he/she is LYING! Actually, usually I just note that the person refuses to back up the claim and let others come to their own conclusions. In this case, I'd have to reveal a private communication, which I'm not going to do. And I can't recall ever having demanded that anybody else do so. I note that Judy has refused to back up her claim. Others may draw their own conclusions.
[FairfieldLife] Re: I quit -- question for Rick or the other moderators (since he's away)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I suppose we're supposed to take your word for it, because as you say so often, you never lie. Exactly. Uh-huh. Aren't you the person who claimed that if Obama secured the nomination that as a good Democrat you would support him fully? Given some of the things you've said on this forum since and the negative nature of the articles you repost, I cannot help but assume that either you have a different definition of what support means than I do, or you have a different definition of what I never lie means than I do. Well, one difference in our definition of lie, apparently, is that if one changes one's mind for some reason, that doesn't mean what one said to start with was a lie. When I first encountered Judy Stein I thought, and said, that I considered her a shrewish old schoolmarm who argued incessantly about anything she could sucker people into arguing about because she was still trying to impress her dead Daddy with how strong she is. And she was a TM True Believer. In the years since, I have changed my mind. I now believe that she argues incessantly about anything she can lure people into arguing about because she is insane. And a TM True Believer. According to Judy, the fact that I have changed my mind does not make the first statement a lie. :-) And now, a fun comparison: I have in my hands a list of 205 [government employees] that were made known to the Secretary of State as being members of the Communist Party and who nevertheless are still working and shaping policy in the State Department. -- Senator Joseph McCarthy, 1950 The list was never made available to the Secy of State, or to anyone else. McCarthy later claimed that he could not reveal it because he had to protect a communication from a private source, exactly the same argument used by Judy Stein when refusing to back up the following quote: We recently lost an extremely valuable long-time poster because of Barry's nastiness and dishonesty. -- Judy Stein, 17 July 2008 Photo of Joe: http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2005/02/04/icon_topic3_feb4,0.jpg Photo of Judy: http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/photos/view/4c65?b=27 Coincidence? Illicit affair? People coming to look like their heroes? You decide. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: I quit -- question for Rick or the other moderators (since he's away)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip I'm really curious as to how you will respond to this, Judy. It really IS doing a Judy on YOU, and turnabout is fair play. Above you stand by the claim, but with no backup. I think everyone here knows that if anyone else did that when YOU had challenged them to back up one of their claims, the next words out of your mouth would be a variant of, See...I told you so...he/she is LYING! Actually, usually I just note that the person refuses to back up the claim and let others come to their own conclusions. I note that Judy has refused to back up her claim. Others may draw their own conclusions. In this case, I'd have to reveal a private communication, which I'm not going to do. And I can't recall ever having demanded that anybody else do so. Note that Barry *has* made that very demand. Snipped by Barry: You made a claim, Judy. And now the only thing you have to say when that claim is challenged is that you stand by it. I suppose we're supposed to take your word for it, because as you say so often, you never lie. Exactly. Also snipped by Barry: Try as I might, I am unable to substantiate your claim using the Yahoo Search Engine. How much time have you spent on this so far, Barry? giggle He's now wasted a good six posts on it, in addition to all the time he's taken to search and rack his brains (for evidence of something he could easily have figured out was a private communication and therefore not reflected either in his brains--such as they are--or the FFL traffic or emails to the moderators). Hope everybody is having as much fun with this latest meltdown of Barry's as I am... Oh, heck, let's just rub it in a little further. From an earlier post in the sequence: I wasn't trying to be nasty, and I was never in the least dishonest when dealing with him, or with anyone else here. Hey, Barry, I'll be *delighted* to provide evidence that you're being dishonest here about your chronic dishonesty. Whaddya say, would you like me to do that? Let's start with this: [Judy] follows me from Internet forum to Internet forum [trying to lure me into arguments]. She has done the same with several folks here, as they would be more than willing to tell you. Want more, Barry?
[FairfieldLife] Re: I quit -- question for Rick or the other moderators (since he's away)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hope everybody is having as much fun with this latest meltdown of Barry's as I am... Oh, heck, let's just rub it in a little further. From an earlier post in the sequence: I wasn't trying to be nasty, and I was never in the least dishonest when dealing with him, or with anyone else here. Hey, Barry, I'll be *delighted* to provide evidence that you're being dishonest here about your chronic dishonesty. Whaddya say, would you like me to do that? Let's start with this: [Judy] follows me from Internet forum to Internet forum [trying to lure me into arguments]. She has done the same with several folks here, as they would be more than willing to tell you. Want more, Barry? If it's of this quality, sure. Please note the way that Judy responded to this assertion of mine when it was first posted: This is a very old, tired lie Barry's told over and over, but, again, one he feels secure in telling Ruth because she has no way to know it's a lie. The ONLY Internet forum I ever followed Barry to was this one--and that was *at his invitation* to the folks on alt.m.t when he started posting here. A quick search of the following Google groups for posts made by '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' containing the word 'Barry' will find will find posts there from her responding to my posts to those groups, in most cases for no other purpose than to trash me. alt.religion.gnostic alt.meditation sci.skeptic comp.ai.philosophy alt.magick.tantra Her game seemed to have been that whenever I would get into a conversation with someone from one of these other groups that was cross-posted to alt. meditation.transcendental, she would follow up on the thread, even if she wasn't interested in the subject matter, and -- Surprise! -- attempt to undermine my credibility on the new forum. Add to that Fairfield Life and the TM-Free blog, where she did exactly the same thing, and I think you've got a few more groups that she's followed me to than this one. And yet she claimed in no uncertain terms that this was the only one. Go figure, eh? Want more, Judy?
[FairfieldLife] Re: I quit -- question for Rick or the other moderators (since he's away)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Hope everybody is having as much fun with this latest meltdown of Barry's as I am... Oh, heck, let's just rub it in a little further. From an earlier post in the sequence: I wasn't trying to be nasty, and I was never in the least dishonest when dealing with him, or with anyone else here. Hey, Barry, I'll be *delighted* to provide evidence that you're being dishonest here about your chronic dishonesty. Whaddya say, would you like me to do that? Let's start with this: [Judy] follows me from Internet forum to Internet forum [trying to lure me into arguments]. She has done the same with several folks here, as they would be more than willing to tell you. Want more, Barry? If it's of this quality, sure. Please note the way that Judy responded to this assertion of mine when it was first posted: This was hardly the first time you'd posted it, Barry, as you well know. The first time was back in May 2005, and you've done so any number of times since. This is a very old, tired lie Barry's told over and over, but, again, one he feels secure in telling Ruth because she has no way to know it's a lie. The ONLY Internet forum I ever followed Barry to was this one--and that was *at his invitation* to the folks on alt.m.t when he started posting here. A quick search of the following Google groups for posts made by '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' containing the word 'Barry' will find will find posts there from her responding to my posts to those groups, in most cases for no other purpose than to trash me. alt.religion.gnostic alt.meditation sci.skeptic comp.ai.philosophy alt.magick.tantra Her game seemed to have been that whenever I would get into a conversation with someone from one of these other groups that was cross-posted to alt. meditation.transcendental, she would follow up on the thread, even if she wasn't interested in the subject matter, and -- Surprise! -- attempt to undermine my credibility on the new forum. Ah, now we see Barry's definition of follows from Internet forum to Internet forum: He includes participation in cross-posted conversations, even if the posts in question all came from a single forum. Of course, cross-posted conversations were standard on Usenet; nobody except Barry would ever try to portray participation in them as following someone from forum to forum. Add to that Fairfield Life and the TM-Free blog, where she did exactly the same thing Uh, no. I was posting to TMFree well before Barry was; and as I noted, I came to FFL *at Barry's invitation* on alt.m.t. (Besides which, I was already a member but had been only lurking; I didn't post to FFL until Barry and Vaj started lying about what went on on alt.m.t. My second post ever to FFL, #52346, has a good overview of what happened.) , and I think you've got a few more groups that she's followed me to than this one. And yet she claimed in no uncertain terms that this was the only one. Go figure, eh? It *is*, of course, the only one in terms of what virtually everyone except Barry would understand by the phrase he used. And again, even that was *at his explicit invitation*. And I might also note that this is the *first* time he's attempted to justify his lie by resorting to this definition, even though I've challenged him on it many times. So it's not as if he had this peculiar definition in mind all along. He just felt the need, finally, to come up with *something*. Oh, and one more thing: When I mentioned on alt.m.t that I had discovered Barry had been trashing me on FFL well before he'd issued his invitation for us to join him there, he threatened to accuse me of being a cyberstalker if I dared to speak up about it on FFL.
[FairfieldLife] Re: I quit -- question for Rick or the other moderators (since he's away)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip Add to that Fairfield Life and the TM-Free blog, where she did exactly the same thing Uh, no. I was posting to TMFree well before Barry was Plus which, as I recall--I could be wrong, but I don't think so--my first comment addressed to Barry at TMFree was in response to one of his *trashing me*.
[FairfieldLife] Re: I quit -- question for Rick or the other moderators (since he's away)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip If my memory isn't faulty, t'would seem that Judy felt the need to...uh...stretch the truth a bit (if not... dare I say it...actually LIE) in the fervor of one of her Gotta Trash Barry moments. I'll be interested to see what she has to say about this claim when she returns. I don't have anything to say about it, other than that of course I stand by it. Unless Barry's REELY REELY STOOOPID, he ought to have been able to come up with an additional possibility, in which what I wrote is 100% accurate and the faultiness of his memory is completely irrelevant. Ok, I think that there will be no complaint from anyone here if I characterize Judy as the person who has most often demanded that people back up their claims on this forum. It's almost her trade- mark. Well, turnabout is fair play. Judy, please produce two things to back up the following claim: We recently lost an extremely valuable long-time poster because of Barry's nastiness and dishonesty. 1. Please supply the name or screen name of the poster you claim left FFL because of Barry's nastiness and dishonesty. 2. Please supply documentation that this is the reason they gave for leaving. If it's a message on FFL, please give us the message number. If it is a private email, please ask for permission to repost that email here verbatim. (Or, when you give us the person's name, we can simply write to the person and ask them whether your representation of why they left FFL is accurate.) I'm really curious as to how you will respond to this, Judy. It really IS doing a Judy on YOU, and turnabout is fair play. Above you stand by the claim, but with no backup. I think everyone here knows that if anyone else did that when YOU had challenged them to back up one of their claims, the next words out of your mouth would be a variant of, See...I told you so...he/she is LYING! Actually, usually I just note that the person refuses to back up the claim and let others come to their own conclusions. In this case, I'd have to reveal a private communication, which I'm not going to do. And I can't recall ever having demanded that anybody else do so. Try as I might, I am unable to substantiate your claim using the Yahoo Search Engine. How much time have you spent on this so far, Barry? giggle snip You made a claim, Judy. And now the only thing you have to say when that claim is challenged is that you stand by it. I suppose we're supposed to take your word for it, because as you say so often, you never lie. Exactly. Uh-huh. Aren't you the person who claimed that if Obama secured the nomination that as a good Democrat you would support him fully? Given some of the things you've said on this forum since and the negative nature of the articles you repost, I cannot help but assume that either you have a different definition of what support means than I do, or you have a different definition of what I never lie means than I do. Well, one difference in our definition of lie, apparently, is that if one changes one's mind for some reason, that doesn't mean what one said to start with was a lie. Oh, and by the way, you've now documented that you're REELY REELY STOOOPID.
[FairfieldLife] Re: I quit -- question for Rick or the other moderators (since he's away)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip I wasn't trying to be nasty, and I was never in the least dishonest when dealing with him, or with anyone else here. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! The interesting thing is that this Turk fellow actually believes everything he writes. As if he has a Mission, which ofcourse makes him believe he is a very, very important person. HaHaHa
[FairfieldLife] Re: I quit -- question for Rick or the other moderators (since he's away)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just for the fun of it: When I first encountered Judy Stein I thought, and said, that I considered her a shrewish old schoolmarm who argued incessantly about anything she could sucker people into arguing about because she was still trying to impress her dead Daddy with how strong she is. And she was a TM True Believer. Not in those words, you didn't. Google Groups search has no record of your ever having referred to me as shrewish (or a shrew), and you didn't get around to suggesting I was a schoolmarm until 2003. Plus which, I don't believe I had occasion to mention anything on alt.m.t about my father's death for some years. (And I'd be astonished if I'd ever referred to him on alt.m.t as Daddy.) In other words, Barry made this whole tale up, at least in terms of what he actually *said* about me. Oh, and he knows I'm not a True Believer, too.
[FairfieldLife] Re: I quit -- question for Rick or the other moderators (since he's away)
Hey, Rick, Alex, gullible_fool, et al, The following claim by Judy has me curious. Has anyone unsubscribed or stalked off of FFL in a snit citing me as a reason recently? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And if you look back, you'll find that more than anyone else on FFL, it's been Barry who has attempted--and frequently succeeded--in driving people off the forum. We recently lost an extremely valuable long-time poster because of Barry's nastiness and dishonesty. I'm trying to figure out what on EARTH Judy could be talking about here. Marek seems to be taking a break, but he and I were on the best of terms last time I checked. And Jim's still finishing up his latest two weeks in the penalty box, so it can't be him she's referring to. The last person that I remember who stalked off in a snit citing me as a reason was Lou Valentino. And yes, in that case, I plead guilty, and express some remorse. I took Lou to task over some incredibly sexist and misogynist things he said here, suggesting that this 'tude might explain his recent divorce, and he went ballistic and unsubscribed. For the record, Lou, I apologize for the personal inferences, but stand firm on calling you on your misogynist bullshit. But Lou bailed back in August 2007, hardly recently. Edg Duveyoung last posted back in May, but left with- out a goodbye or stating a reason for taking off, as I remember. But other than that, I really can't remember anyone bailing from FFL citing my nastiness and dishonesty as a reason for bailing, especially recently. If my memory is faulty, please clue me in so that I can post the appropriate Mea culpas and apologies. I *do* tend to be abrasive at times. If my memory isn't faulty, t'would seem that Judy felt the need to...uh...stretch the truth a bit (if not... dare I say it...actually LIE) in the fervor of one of her Gotta Trash Barry moments. I'll be interested to see what she has to say about this claim when she returns.
[FairfieldLife] Re: I quit -- question for Rick or the other moderators (since he's away)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, Rick, Alex, gullible_fool, et al, The following claim by Judy has me curious. Has anyone unsubscribed or stalked off of FFL in a snit citing me as a reason recently? The only info I receive are system-generated notices that someone has unsubscribed. I have received no private emails containing reasons for unsubscribing. And Jim's still finishing up his latest two weeks in the penalty box, Jim unsubscribed a couple days ago. Edg Duveyoung last posted back in May, but left with- out a goodbye or stating a reason for taking off, as I remember. Edg is still subscribed and config'd with the no email option.
[FairfieldLife] Re: I quit -- question for Rick or the other moderators (since he's away)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip If my memory isn't faulty, t'would seem that Judy felt the need to...uh...stretch the truth a bit (if not... dare I say it...actually LIE) in the fervor of one of her Gotta Trash Barry moments. I'll be interested to see what she has to say about this claim when she returns. I don't have anything to say about it, other than that of course I stand by it. Unless Barry's REELY REELY STOOOPID, he ought to have been able to come up with an additional possibility, in which what I wrote is 100% accurate and the faultiness of his memory is completely irrelevant.
