[FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!

[yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

thxand the technique(s) for awakening these centers are ..???
 

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

MMY in his discourse draws something of a particular delineation between what 
is a continuum that is consciousness awakening and then the development 
continuum of these energy centers that are more related to embodiment or an 
ensoulment process resident in the human system. What some in the postmodern 
refer to as the light-body subtle system, or heart, that houses a soul in the 
human system.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Yes, the great sage Maharishi Mahesh Yogi spoke to some of this development 
back in the 20th Century.  There is at least one lecture on the 500 hours of 
MMY lectures thumb drive where he speaks of this aspect of spiritual 
development.  

Recently someone reading this particular thread here on FFL handed me an audio 
CD of MMY with a lecture about this.  The composite of both the thumb drive and 
CD would make a good transcript on the subject. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 ..it is the vagus or tenth cranial nerve that is the most receptive to this 
solar fire or energy, the spiritual fire coming down, the fire of the 
macrocosm. This fire energizes humans and uses them to express the qualities of 
love and wisdom. There also is a fire by friction in the center of the earth 
called the kundalini fire. The human is the focal point of these two fires or 
forces which play through him and activate his seven centers of light. The 
kundalini is a negatively charged energy which is activated by the positively 
charged energy, the spiritual fire, which is located in the central spiritual 
sun.
 It is said that at a propitious time kundalini hears the call of her mate and 
rises from her cave in the base of the human spine to meet him. The kundalini 
fire is aroused as a final step in one's spiritual development, and it can only 
travel up a clear, pure channel, activating the chakras as it goes. While this 
is happening, the latent powers within one are also coming into full expression 
in a natural way. It is the way that one through many rebirths, and now rapidly 
through meditation, moves from mortality to immortality. -Charlie Lutes 
[excerpt]
 
 FFL 419964 A Biography of Charlie Lutes and Helen Lutes: 

 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/419964 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/419964

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Once I heard M directly telling the classical analogy of these energies 
circulating in the energy centers of the nervous system. The classical analogy 
..like a snake circulating with its tail in its mouth, circulating through the 
energy centers, and his comment that Transcendental Meditation is what takes 
the tail out of the snake’s mouth and then allows the snake to circulate 
freely. I directly heard him saying this one time on a course in Switzerland 
and then sometime later that year while I was back in the USA teaching then 
hearing someone recount Maharishi as saying (as if literally) ‘there is a snake 
in the spine’, etc.  Jeez people!  
 I feel he stopped publicly talking about these aspects of embodiment of the 
primordial in the light body of the human being as it was too distracting for 
where a lot of people were at and where the  development of science was at in 
that time such that science then could not back up what is the spiritual 
reality.  
 

 Obviously the instrumentation is not yet there to image this and put a handle 
on it.  That sort of technological imaging in science research proly will catch 
up with spirituality in time. 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Yes, as breath is also intimate to the heart and subtle system it seems that 
working on alignment of these subtle energy systems of the spiritual nervous 
system is a lot of where so many of the meditating community have gone on to.  
 I have been going to these planning meetings with various movement people and 
it is pretty clear that some of those still narrowly vested in the strict ™ 
consciousness paradigm  don’t really get where people have gone in their 
spiritual experience.  More recently with the opening up of mental health 
policy inside TM, some clinical thinkers are moving to the direction of 
‘integral’ medicine but that only goes to incorporating cognitive modality as 
their means of getting to the heart of spiritual problems.  That is okay as one 
modality. The communal satsang of the old meditating community evidently has 
cultivated other experience with it.  
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I am predicting that breath, or prana will at some point, become a focus of 
western medicine. Probably before interest in something like energy centers 
takes hold. 
 The Upanishads, in particular, talk about the different breaths, and the 
functions they perform.  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Yes, the great sage Maharishi Mahesh Yogi spoke to some of this development 
back in the 20th Century.  There is at least one lecture on the 500 hours of 
MMY lectures thumb drive where he speaks of this aspect of spiritual 
development.  

Recently someone reading this particular thread here on FFL handed me an audio 
CD of MMY with a lecture about this.  The composite of both the thumb drive and 
CD would make a good transcript on the subject. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 ..it is the vagus or tenth cranial nerve that is the most receptive to this 
solar fire or energy, the spiritual fire coming down, the fire of the 
macrocosm. This fire energizes humans and uses them to express the qualities of 
love and wisdom. There also is a fire by friction in the center of the earth 
called the kundalini fire. The human is the focal point of these two fires or 
forces which play through him and activate his seven centers of light. The 
kundalini is a negatively charged energy which is activated by the positively 
charged energy, the spiritual fire, which is located in the central spiritual 
sun.
 It is said that at a propitious time kundalini hears the call of her mate and 
rises from her cave in the base of the human spine to meet him. The kundalini 
fire is aroused as a final step in one's spiritual development, and it can only 
travel up a clear, pure channel, activating the chakras as it goes. While this 
is happening, the latent powers within one are also coming into full expression 
in a natural way. It is the way that one through many rebirths, and now rapidly 
through meditation, moves from mortality to immortality. [excerpt]
 
 FFL 419964 A Biography of Charlie Lutes and Helen Lutes: 

 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/419964 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/419964

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Once I heard M directly telling the classical analogy of these energies 
circulating in the energy centers of the nervous system. The classical analogy 
..like a snake circulating with its tail in its mouth, circulating through the 
energy centers, and his comment that Transcendental Meditation is what takes 
the tail out of the snake’s mouth and then allows the snake to circulate 
freely. I directly heard him saying this one time on a course in Switzerland 
and then sometime later that year while I was back in the USA teaching then 
hearing someone recount Maharishi as saying (as if literally) ‘there is a snake 
in the spine’, etc.  Jeez people!  
 I feel he stopped publicly talking about these aspects of embodiment of the 
primordial in the light body of the human being as it was too distracting for 
where a lot of people were at and where the  development of science was at in 
that time such that science then could not back up what is the spiritual 
reality.  
 

 Obviously the instrumentation is not yet there to image this and put a handle 
on it.  That sort of technological imaging in science research proly will catch 
up with spirituality in time. 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Yes, as breath is also intimate to the heart and subtle system it seems that 
working on alignment of these subtle energy systems of the spiritual nervous 
system is a lot of where so many of the meditating community have gone on to.  
 I have been going to these planning meetings with various movement people and 
it is pretty clear that some of those still narrowly vested in the strict ™ 
consciousness paradigm  don’t really get where people have gone in their 
spiritual experience.  More recently with the opening up of mental health 
policy inside TM, some clinical thinkers are moving to the direction of 
‘integral’ medicine but that only goes to incorporating cognitive modality as 
their means of getting to the heart of spiritual problems.  That is okay as one 
modality. The communal satsang of the old meditating community evidently has 
cultivated other experience with it.  
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I am predicting that breath, or prana will at some point, become a focus of 
western medicine. Probably before interest in something like energy centers 
takes hold. 
 The Upanishads, in particular, talk about the different breaths, and the 
functions they perform.  Breath may be something people can understand better 
than say, chakras. 

 Another area which has little or no public awareness is that of sexual energy, 
and how it pertains to overall health and mental acuity, at least as I see it.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 M stopped talking much about it publicly at points when faced with an 
intellectual skepticism about these energy centers:  ‘Thin lines of energy 
flowing in the central nervous system? ’ 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!

[Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

There is a beautiful and much more detailed description of this process in Joan 
Harrigan's book Kundalini Vidya. Just to give a hint: once Shakti has traversed 
sushumna and reaches makara, She is stable. From there She and Shiva travel up 
to crown chakra. But this is just the tip of the iceberg of wisdom contained in 
Dr. Harrigan's book. I highly recommend it for any who are interested. It can 
be ordered at PKYC in Knoxville, TN.


  From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 5:22 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!
   
    ..it is the vagus or tenth cranial nerve that is the most receptive to this 
solar fire or energy, the spiritual fire coming down, the fire of the 
macrocosm. This fire energizes humans and uses them to express the qualities of 
love and wisdom. There also is a fire by friction in the center of the earth 
called the kundalini fire. The human is the focal point of these two fires or 
forces which play through him and activate his seven centers of light. The 
kundalini is a negatively charged energy which is activated by the positively 
charged energy, the spiritual fire, which is located in the central spiritual 
sun.It is said that at a propitious time kundalini hears the call of her mate 
and rises from her cave in the base of the human spine to meet him. The 
kundalini fire is aroused as a final step in one's spiritual development, and 
it can only travel up a clear, pure channel, activating the chakras as it goes. 
While this is happening, the latent powers within one are also coming into full 
expression in a natural way. It is the way that one through many rebirths, and 
now rapidly through meditation, moves from mortality to immortality. [excerpt]
FFL 419964 A Biography of Charlie Lutes and Helen Lutes:

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/419964



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote :

Once I heard M directly telling the classical analogy of these energies 
circulating in the energy centers of the nervous system. The classical analogy 
..like a snake circulating with its tail in its mouth, circulating through the 
energy centers, and his comment that Transcendental Meditation is what takes 
the tail out of the snake’s mouth and then allows the snake to circulate 
freely. I directly heard him saying this one time on a course in Switzerland 
and then sometime later that year while I was back in the USA teaching then 
hearing someone recount Maharishi as saying (as if literally) ‘there is a snake 
in the spine’, etc.  Jeez people!  I feel he stopped publicly talking about 
these aspects of embodiment of the primordial in the light body of the human 
being as it was too distracting for where a lot of people were at and where the 
 development of science was at in that time such that science then could not 
back up what is the spiritual reality.  
Obviously the instrumentation is not yet there to image this and put a handle 
on it.  That sort of technological imaging in science research proly will catch 
up with spirituality in time. 



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote :

Yes, as breath is also intimate to the heart and subtle system it seems that 
working on alignment of these subtle energy systems of the spiritual nervous 
system is a lot of where so many of the meditating community have gone on to.  
I have been going to these planning meetings with various movement people and 
it is pretty clear that some of those still narrowly vested in the strict ™ 
consciousness paradigm  don’t really get where people have gone in their 
spiritual experience.  More recently with the opening up of mental health 
policy inside TM, some clinical thinkers are moving to the direction of 
‘integral’ medicine but that only goes to incorporating cognitive modality as 
their means of getting to the heart of spiritual problems.  That is okay as one 
modality. The communal satsang of the old meditating community evidently has 
cultivated other experience with it.  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <steve.sun...@yahoo.com> wrote :

I am predicting that breath, or prana will at some point, become a focus of 
western medicine. Probably before interest in something like energy centers 
takes hold.
The Upanishads, in particular, talk about the different breaths, and the 
functions they perform.  Breath may be something people can understand better 
than say, chakras.
Another area which has little or no public awareness is that of sexual energy, 
and how it pertains to overall health and mental acuity, at least as I see it.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :

M stopped talking much about it publicly at points when faced with an 
intellectual skepticism about these energy 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

..it is the vagus or tenth cranial nerve that is the most receptive to this 
solar fire or energy, the spiritual fire coming down, the fire of the 
macrocosm. This fire energizes humans and uses them to express the qualities of 
love and wisdom. There also is a fire by friction in the center of the earth 
called the kundalini fire. The human is the focal point of these two fires or 
forces which play through him and activate his seven centers of light. The 
kundalini is a negatively charged energy which is activated by the positively 
charged energy, the spiritual fire, which is located in the central spiritual 
sun.
 It is said that at a propitious time kundalini hears the call of her mate and 
rises from her cave in the base of the human spine to meet him. The kundalini 
fire is aroused as a final step in one's spiritual development, and it can only 
travel up a clear, pure channel, activating the chakras as it goes. While this 
is happening, the latent powers within one are also coming into full expression 
in a natural way. It is the way that one through many rebirths, and now rapidly 
through meditation, moves from mortality to immortality. [excerpt]
 
 FFL 419964 A Biography of Charlie Lutes and Helen Lutes: 

 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/419964 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/419964

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Once I heard M directly telling the classical analogy of these energies 
circulating in the energy centers of the nervous system. The classical analogy 
..like a snake circulating with its tail in its mouth, circulating through the 
energy centers, and his comment that Transcendental Meditation is what takes 
the tail out of the snake’s mouth and then allows the snake to circulate 
freely. I directly heard him saying this one time on a course in Switzerland 
and then sometime later that year while I was back in the USA teaching then 
hearing someone recount Maharishi as saying (as if literally) ‘there is a snake 
in the spine’, etc.  Jeez people!  
 I feel he stopped publicly talking about these aspects of embodiment of the 
primordial in the light body of the human being as it was too distracting for 
where a lot of people were at and where the  development of science was at in 
that time such that science then could not back up what is the spiritual 
reality.  
 

 Obviously the instrumentation is not yet there to image this and put a handle 
on it.  That sort of technological imaging in science research proly will catch 
up with spirituality in time. 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Yes, as breath is also intimate to the heart and subtle system it seems that 
working on alignment of these subtle energy systems of the spiritual nervous 
system is a lot of where so many of the meditating community have gone on to.  
 I have been going to these planning meetings with various movement people and 
it is pretty clear that some of those still narrowly vested in the strict ™ 
consciousness paradigm  don’t really get where people have gone in their 
spiritual experience.  More recently with the opening up of mental health 
policy inside TM, some clinical thinkers are moving to the direction of 
‘integral’ medicine but that only goes to incorporating cognitive modality as 
their means of getting to the heart of spiritual problems.  That is okay as one 
modality. The communal satsang of the old meditating community evidently has 
cultivated other experience with it.  
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I am predicting that breath, or prana will at some point, become a focus of 
western medicine. Probably before interest in something like energy centers 
takes hold. 
 The Upanishads, in particular, talk about the different breaths, and the 
functions they perform.  Breath may be something people can understand better 
than say, chakras. 

 Another area which has little or no public awareness is that of sexual energy, 
and how it pertains to overall health and mental acuity, at least as I see it.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 M stopped talking much about it publicly at points when faced with an 
intellectual skepticism about these energy centers:  ‘Thin lines of energy 
flowing in the central nervous system? ’ ..'Where exactly?'  

 Comparing to the science then at that time growing on 'consciousness' defined 
by meditation then to also describe and defend a subtle system which science 
has yet to be able to even image would be daunting at best given where people 
and science was at in time.  But clearly it was where he was going in his 
teachings and methods even to his last techniques in marma, vibrational 
modalities and the Ved and Physiology practice.  The guy was a visionary, sage, 
empiricist and necessarily practical 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!

[ultrarishi]

I'm glad you mentioned Dr. Harrigan's work.  I've been a meditator / siddha for 
almost 41 years.  However, since the beginning, around the 3 month after 
initiation I started experiencing kriyas. Mostly, it's my right arm flopping 
around, but not limited to just that phenomenah.  I'm able to keep them from 
being disruptive, so I am not a nuisance or freak in public or on a course. 
But, I've never have been able to get any real insight into it.  

The one person I spoke to in the movement just had be practice asanas, thinking 
that might help.  Not really. And I got the classic trope that it's just a sign 
of... wait for it... "unstressing".  Whatever.

To this day I just live with it and I actually avoid talking to anyone who is 
connected with the Movement. I want to keep my options open.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!

[authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I don't believe this was a women-only audience, but I could be wrong. (Even if 
it was, "shared" wouldn't have been the appropriate term.) 

 No antagonism on my part. Just making an editorial comment.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <archonangel@...> wrote :

 
 In my experience, women share things with each other. 

 They think of ideas and experiences together as sharing.
 

 As a male, I rarely do this.
 

 I don't see in this thread what this antagonism is about.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

 Why do you think "shared" was inappropriate to use in the context?
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 7:25 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!
 
 
   Nope, not based on the interview (which I didn't read). I was just struck by 
the inappropriateness of the term "shared" in the context in which you used it. 
And what you say it was based on has nothing to do with why I was struck by it.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

 Judy, is that speculation about what you would have written based on your 
reading of the interview with Joan that yifuxero posted? My use of the word 
"shared" is based on my total experience with PKYC, from Joan's intro talk here 
in FF, to the extensive application process and to actually attending a two 
week retreat about 2 years later.
 
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 12:22 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

 When I was at the PKYC TN center in July 2009, Joan shared that they have a 
96% success rate.
 

 If I had been reporting what she said, I think I would have used the term 
"bragged" or perhaps "claimed" rather than "shared."
 

 

 

 Indeed, at the end of the first week of a 2-week retreat, my own kundalini 
went from being a deflected one, to becoming established in sushumna and rising 
all the way to makara. I am so grateful for the knowledge and expertise that 
PKYC offer and recommend it highly to anyone who is feeling stuck on their 
spiritual path. 

 


 From: "yifuxero@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 6:18 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!

 
   
 Thxcovered extensively by Joan Harrigan of Kundalini Care.  Her book 
covers various types of kundalini risings, including those which are exemplary 
and rare in history (such as in the probable case of St. Paul); and also 
partial and deflected risings and their outcomes.  Remedial measures may 
require participation in her counseling sessions at her TN center.
 My take: there's no magical technique that will in any predictable time 
period, that will result in a favorable type of kundalini rising and opening of 
the third eye (what she calls the upper third eye or Makara point).
 

 http://www.authenticmovementjournal.com/?p=530 
http://www.authenticmovementjournal.com/?p=530
 .


 














 















 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!

[authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

It's sorta like saying Donald Trump "shared" that his net worth was $11 billion 
(even if that were true). "Shared" is Oprah-esque. Nothing wrong with it in an 
appropriate context. 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

 Why do you think "shared" was inappropriate to use in the context?
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 7:25 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!
 
 
   Nope, not based on the interview (which I didn't read). I was just struck by 
the inappropriateness of the term "shared" in the context in which you used it. 
And what you say it was based on has nothing to do with why I was struck by it.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

 Judy, is that speculation about what you would have written based on your 
reading of the interview with Joan that yifuxero posted? My use of the word 
"shared" is based on my total experience with PKYC, from Joan's intro talk here 
in FF, to the extensive application process and to actually attending a two 
week retreat about 2 years later.
 
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 12:22 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

 When I was at the PKYC TN center in July 2009, Joan shared that they have a 
96% success rate.
 

 If I had been reporting what she said, I think I would have used the term 
"bragged" or perhaps "claimed" rather than "shared."
 

 

 

 Indeed, at the end of the first week of a 2-week retreat, my own kundalini 
went from being a deflected one, to becoming established in sushumna and rising 
all the way to makara. I am so grateful for the knowledge and expertise that 
PKYC offer and recommend it highly to anyone who is feeling stuck on their 
spiritual path. 

 


 From: "yifuxero@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 6:18 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!

 
   
 Thxcovered extensively by Joan Harrigan of Kundalini Care.  Her book 
covers various types of kundalini risings, including those which are exemplary 
and rare in history (such as in the probable case of St. Paul); and also 
partial and deflected risings and their outcomes.  Remedial measures may 
require participation in her counseling sessions at her TN center.
 My take: there's no magical technique that will in any predictable time 
period, that will result in a favorable type of kundalini rising and opening of 
the third eye (what she calls the upper third eye or Makara point).
 

 http://www.authenticmovementjournal.com/?p=530 
http://www.authenticmovementjournal.com/?p=530
 .


 














 















 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!

[archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

In my experience, women share things with each other. 

 They think of ideas and experiences together as sharing.
 

 As a male, I rarely do this.
 

 I don't see in this thread what this antagonism is about.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

 Why do you think "shared" was inappropriate to use in the context?
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 7:25 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!
 
 
   Nope, not based on the interview (which I didn't read). I was just struck by 
the inappropriateness of the term "shared" in the context in which you used it. 
And what you say it was based on has nothing to do with why I was struck by it.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

 Judy, is that speculation about what you would have written based on your 
reading of the interview with Joan that yifuxero posted? My use of the word 
"shared" is based on my total experience with PKYC, from Joan's intro talk here 
in FF, to the extensive application process and to actually attending a two 
week retreat about 2 years later.
 
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 12:22 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

 When I was at the PKYC TN center in July 2009, Joan shared that they have a 
96% success rate.
 

 If I had been reporting what she said, I think I would have used the term 
"bragged" or perhaps "claimed" rather than "shared."
 

 

 

 Indeed, at the end of the first week of a 2-week retreat, my own kundalini 
went from being a deflected one, to becoming established in sushumna and rising 
all the way to makara. I am so grateful for the knowledge and expertise that 
PKYC offer and recommend it highly to anyone who is feeling stuck on their 
spiritual path. 

 


 From: "yifuxero@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 6:18 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!

 
   
 Thxcovered extensively by Joan Harrigan of Kundalini Care.  Her book 
covers various types of kundalini risings, including those which are exemplary 
and rare in history (such as in the probable case of St. Paul); and also 
partial and deflected risings and their outcomes.  Remedial measures may 
require participation in her counseling sessions at her TN center.
 My take: there's no magical technique that will in any predictable time 
period, that will result in a favorable type of kundalini rising and opening of 
the third eye (what she calls the upper third eye or Makara point).
 

 http://www.authenticmovementjournal.com/?p=530 
http://www.authenticmovementjournal.com/?p=530
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RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!

['Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife]]

My interview with Joan: https://batgap.com/joan-shivarpita-harrigan/ 

 

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 8:42 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!

 

  

When I was at the PKYC TN center in July 2009, Joan shared that they have a 96% 
success rate. Indeed, at the end of the first week of a 2-week retreat, my own 
kundalini went from being a deflected one, to becoming established in sushumna 
and rising all the way to makara. I am so grateful for the knowledge and 
expertise that PKYC offer and recommend it highly to anyone who is feeling 
stuck on their spiritual path. 

 

  _  

From: "yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
<mailto:yifux...@yahoo.com%20[FairfieldLife]> " <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> >
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>  
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 6:18 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!

 

  

Thxcovered extensively by Joan Harrigan of Kundalini Care.  Her book covers 
various types of kundalini risings, including those which are exemplary and 
rare in history (such as in the probable case of St. Paul); and also partial 
and deflected risings and their outcomes.  Remedial measures may require 
participation in her counseling sessions at her TN center.

My take: there's no magical technique that will in any predictable time period, 
that will result in a favorable type of kundalini rising and opening of the 
third eye (what she calls the upper third eye or Makara point).

 

http://www.authenticmovementjournal.com/?p=530

.

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!

[Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Why do you think "shared" was inappropriate to use in the context?

  From: "authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 7:25 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!
   
    Nope, not based on the interview (which I didn't read). I was just struck 
by the inappropriateness of the term "shared" in the context in which you used 
it. And what you say it was based on has nothing to do with why I was struck by 
it.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

Judy, is that speculation about what you would have written based on your 
reading of the interview with Joan that yifuxero posted? My use of the word 
"shared" is based on my total experience with PKYC, from Joan's intro talk here 
in FF, to the extensive application process and to actually attending a two 
week retreat about 2 years later.


  From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 12:22 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

When I was at the PKYC TN center in July 2009, Joan shared that they have a 96% 
success rate.
If I had been reporting what she said, I think I would have used the term 
"bragged" or perhaps "claimed" rather than "shared."


Indeed, at the end of the first week of a 2-week retreat, my own kundalini went 
from being a deflected one, to becoming established in sushumna and rising all 
the way to makara. I am so grateful for the knowledge and expertise that PKYC 
offer and recommend it highly to anyone who is feeling stuck on their spiritual 
path. 


  From: "yifuxero@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 6:18 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!

 Thxcovered extensively by Joan Harrigan of Kundalini Care.  Her book 
covers various types of kundalini risings, including those which are exemplary 
and rare in history (such as in the probable case of St. Paul); and also 
partial and deflected risings and their outcomes.  Remedial measures may 
require participation in her counseling sessions at her TN center.My take: 
there's no magical technique that will in any predictable time period, that 
will result in a favorable type of kundalini rising and opening of the third 
eye (what she calls the upper third eye or Makara point).
http://www.authenticmovementjournal.com/?p=530.




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!

[anon_alias]

Thanks for sharing your opinion. 
 

 Could you share your experience practicing the Ashtang Asana, using the eight 
points pose, that is included in the Sun Salutation by Sri Sri. Thanks.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote :

 Nope, not based on the interview (which I didn't read). I was just struck by 
the inappropriateness of the term "shared" in the context in which you used it. 
And what you say it was based on has nothing to do with why I was struck by it. 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

 Judy, is that speculation about what you would have written based on your 
reading of the interview with Joan that yifuxero posted? My use of the word 
"shared" is based on my total experience with PKYC, from Joan's intro talk here 
in FF, to the extensive application process and to actually attending a two 
week retreat about 2 years later.
 
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 12:22 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

 When I was at the PKYC TN center in July 2009, Joan shared that they have a 
96% success rate.
 

 If I had been reporting what she said, I think I would have used the term 
"bragged" or perhaps "claimed" rather than "shared."
 

 

 

 Indeed, at the end of the first week of a 2-week retreat, my own kundalini 
went from being a deflected one, to becoming established in sushumna and rising 
all the way to makara. I am so grateful for the knowledge and expertise that 
PKYC offer and recommend it highly to anyone who is feeling stuck on their 
spiritual path. 

 


 From: "yifuxero@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 6:18 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!

 
   
 Thxcovered extensively by Joan Harrigan of Kundalini Care.  Her book 
covers various types of kundalini risings, including those which are exemplary 
and rare in history (such as in the probable case of St. Paul); and also 
partial and deflected risings and their outcomes.  Remedial measures may 
require participation in her counseling sessions at her TN center.
 My take: there's no magical technique that will in any predictable time 
period, that will result in a favorable type of kundalini rising and opening of 
the third eye (what she calls the upper third eye or Makara point).
 

 http://www.authenticmovementjournal.com/?p=530 
http://www.authenticmovementjournal.com/?p=530
 .


 














 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!

[authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Nope, not based on the interview (which I didn't read). I was just struck by 
the inappropriateness of the term "shared" in the context in which you used it. 
And what you say it was based on has nothing to do with why I was struck by it. 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

 Judy, is that speculation about what you would have written based on your 
reading of the interview with Joan that yifuxero posted? My use of the word 
"shared" is based on my total experience with PKYC, from Joan's intro talk here 
in FF, to the extensive application process and to actually attending a two 
week retreat about 2 years later.
 
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 12:22 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

 When I was at the PKYC TN center in July 2009, Joan shared that they have a 
96% success rate.
 

 If I had been reporting what she said, I think I would have used the term 
"bragged" or perhaps "claimed" rather than "shared."
 

 

 

 Indeed, at the end of the first week of a 2-week retreat, my own kundalini 
went from being a deflected one, to becoming established in sushumna and rising 
all the way to makara. I am so grateful for the knowledge and expertise that 
PKYC offer and recommend it highly to anyone who is feeling stuck on their 
spiritual path. 

 


 From: "yifuxero@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 6:18 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!

 
   
 Thxcovered extensively by Joan Harrigan of Kundalini Care.  Her book 
covers various types of kundalini risings, including those which are exemplary 
and rare in history (such as in the probable case of St. Paul); and also 
partial and deflected risings and their outcomes.  Remedial measures may 
require participation in her counseling sessions at her TN center.
 My take: there's no magical technique that will in any predictable time 
period, that will result in a favorable type of kundalini rising and opening of 
the third eye (what she calls the upper third eye or Makara point).
 

 http://www.authenticmovementjournal.com/?p=530 
http://www.authenticmovementjournal.com/?p=530
 .


 














 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!

[Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Judy, is that speculation about what you would have written based on your 
reading of the interview with Joan that yifuxero posted? My use of the word 
"shared" is based on my total experience with PKYC, from Joan's intro talk here 
in FF, to the extensive application process and to actually attending a two 
week retreat about 2 years later.


  From: "authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 12:22 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

When I was at the PKYC TN center in July 2009, Joan shared that they have a 96% 
success rate.
If I had been reporting what she said, I think I would have used the term 
"bragged" or perhaps "claimed" rather than "shared."


Indeed, at the end of the first week of a 2-week retreat, my own kundalini went 
from being a deflected one, to becoming established in sushumna and rising all 
the way to makara. I am so grateful for the knowledge and expertise that PKYC 
offer and recommend it highly to anyone who is feeling stuck on their spiritual 
path. 


  From: "yifuxero@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 6:18 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!
 
 Thxcovered extensively by Joan Harrigan of Kundalini Care.  Her book 
covers various types of kundalini risings, including those which are exemplary 
and rare in history (such as in the probable case of St. Paul); and also 
partial and deflected risings and their outcomes.  Remedial measures may 
require participation in her counseling sessions at her TN center.My take: 
there's no magical technique that will in any predictable time period, that 
will result in a favorable type of kundalini rising and opening of the third 
eye (what she calls the upper third eye or Makara point).
http://www.authenticmovementjournal.com/?p=530.


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!

[Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Good morning, DougI've heard that there are several in FF who have availed 
themselves of PKYC wisdom and expertise. Names kept confidential as PKYC has, 
in my opinion, the highest of spiritual integrity. 


  From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 6:14 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!
   
    Thanks Share, I have heard of the place in TN., it is nice to have the 
referral from someone who has been there. Occasionally some have troubles that 
are energetic in the kundalini category that can be debilitating. There are 
people around more locally who may be helpful too.  Comprehensive remedy 
evidently can go beyond what is in the checking notes for meditation.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfri...@yahoo.com> wrote :




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

When I was at the PKYC TN center in July 2009, Joan shared that they have a 96% 
success rate.
If I had been reporting what she said, I think I would have used the term 
"bragged" or perhaps "claimed" rather than "shared."


Indeed, at the end of the first week of a 2-week retreat, my own kundalini went 
from being a deflected one, to becoming established in sushumna and rising all 
the way to makara. I am so grateful for the knowledge and expertise that PKYC 
offer and recommend it highly to anyone who is feeling stuck on their spiritual 
path. 


  From: "yifuxero@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 6:18 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!
 
 Thxcovered extensively by Joan Harrigan of Kundalini Care.  Her book 
covers various types of kundalini risings, including those which are exemplary 
and rare in history (such as in the probable case of St. Paul); and also 
partial and deflected risings and their outcomes.  Remedial measures may 
require participation in her counseling sessions at her TN center.My take: 
there's no magical technique that will in any predictable time period, that 
will result in a favorable type of kundalini rising and opening of the third 
eye (what she calls the upper third eye or Makara point).
http://www.authenticmovementjournal.com/?p=530.


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Thanks Share, 
 I have heard of the place in TN., it is nice to have the referral from someone 
who has been there. 
Occasionally some have troubles that are energetic in the kundalini category 
that can be debilitating. There are people around more locally who may be 
helpful too.  Comprehensive remedy evidently can go beyond what is in the 
checking notes for meditation.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfri...@yahoo.com> wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

 When I was at the PKYC TN center in July 2009, Joan shared that they have a 
96% success rate.
 

 If I had been reporting what she said, I think I would have used the term 
"bragged" or perhaps "claimed" rather than "shared."
 

 

 

 Indeed, at the end of the first week of a 2-week retreat, my own kundalini 
went from being a deflected one, to becoming established in sushumna and rising 
all the way to makara. I am so grateful for the knowledge and expertise that 
PKYC offer and recommend it highly to anyone who is feeling stuck on their 
spiritual path. 

 


 From: "yifuxero@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 6:18 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!
 
 
   
 Thxcovered extensively by Joan Harrigan of Kundalini Care.  Her book 
covers various types of kundalini risings, including those which are exemplary 
and rare in history (such as in the probable case of St. Paul); and also 
partial and deflected risings and their outcomes.  Remedial measures may 
require participation in her counseling sessions at her TN center.
 My take: there's no magical technique that will in any predictable time 
period, that will result in a favorable type of kundalini rising and opening of 
the third eye (what she calls the upper third eye or Makara point).
 

 http://www.authenticmovementjournal.com/?p=530 
http://www.authenticmovementjournal.com/?p=530
 .


 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!

[Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

yifuxero, followup, PKYC doesn't use any magical techniques, simply traditional 
yogic practices such as pranayama and asanas. But asanas specifically for one's 
particular kundalini problem. There is also some emphasis on food choices, 
again with traditional vedic diet. Plus the application for the program is 
quite extensive including three personal histories: a health history, a 
spiritual history and a life event history. So they are well prepared for each 
client who comes for a retreat. And, at least back in 2009, the groups were 
quite small, only four clients at a time. It's a very beautiful program. If you 
read the testimonials on their website, you can feel how grateful people are, 
especially if they have been stuck for a long time in their spiritual life.


  From: "yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 6:18 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!
   
    Thxcovered extensively by Joan Harrigan of Kundalini Care.  Her book 
covers various types of kundalini risings, including those which are exemplary 
and rare in history (such as in the probable case of St. Paul); and also 
partial and deflected risings and their outcomes.  Remedial measures may 
require participation in her counseling sessions at her TN center.My take: 
there's no magical technique that will in any predictable time period, that 
will result in a favorable type of kundalini rising and opening of the third 
eye (what she calls the upper third eye or Makara point).
http://www.authenticmovementjournal.com/?p=530.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!

[authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

 When I was at the PKYC TN center in July 2009, Joan shared that they have a 
96% success rate.
 

 If I had been reporting what she said, I think I would have used the term 
"bragged" or perhaps "claimed" rather than "shared."
 

 

 

 Indeed, at the end of the first week of a 2-week retreat, my own kundalini 
went from being a deflected one, to becoming established in sushumna and rising 
all the way to makara. I am so grateful for the knowledge and expertise that 
PKYC offer and recommend it highly to anyone who is feeling stuck on their 
spiritual path. 

 


 From: "yifuxero@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 6:18 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!
 
 
   
 Thxcovered extensively by Joan Harrigan of Kundalini Care.  Her book 
covers various types of kundalini risings, including those which are exemplary 
and rare in history (such as in the probable case of St. Paul); and also 
partial and deflected risings and their outcomes.  Remedial measures may 
require participation in her counseling sessions at her TN center.
 My take: there's no magical technique that will in any predictable time 
period, that will result in a favorable type of kundalini rising and opening of 
the third eye (what she calls the upper third eye or Makara point).
 

 http://www.authenticmovementjournal.com/?p=530 
http://www.authenticmovementjournal.com/?p=530
 .


 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!

[Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

When I was at the PKYC TN center in July 2009, Joan shared that they have a 96% 
success rate. Indeed, at the end of the first week of a 2-week retreat, my own 
kundalini went from being a deflected one, to becoming established in sushumna 
and rising all the way to makara. I am so grateful for the knowledge and 
expertise that PKYC offer and recommend it highly to anyone who is feeling 
stuck on their spiritual path. 


  From: "yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 6:18 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!
   
    Thxcovered extensively by Joan Harrigan of Kundalini Care.  Her book 
covers various types of kundalini risings, including those which are exemplary 
and rare in history (such as in the probable case of St. Paul); and also 
partial and deflected risings and their outcomes.  Remedial measures may 
require participation in her counseling sessions at her TN center.My take: 
there's no magical technique that will in any predictable time period, that 
will result in a favorable type of kundalini rising and opening of the third 
eye (what she calls the upper third eye or Makara point).
http://www.authenticmovementjournal.com/?p=530.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!

[yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Thxcovered extensively by Joan Harrigan of Kundalini Care.  Her book covers 
various types of kundalini risings, including those which are exemplary and 
rare in history (such as in the probable case of St. Paul); and also partial 
and deflected risings and their outcomes.  Remedial measures may require 
participation in her counseling sessions at her TN center.
 My take: there's no magical technique that will in any predictable time 
period, that will result in a favorable type of kundalini rising and opening of 
the third eye (what she calls the upper third eye or Makara point).
 

 http://www.authenticmovementjournal.com/?p=530 
http://www.authenticmovementjournal.com/?p=530
 .

[FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Once I heard M directly telling the classical analogy of these energies 
circulating in the energy centers of the nervous system. The classical analogy 
..like a snake circulating with its tail in its mouth, circulating through the 
energy centers, and his comment that Transcendental Meditation is what takes 
the tail out of the snake’s mouth and then allows the snake to circulate 
freely. I directly heard him saying this one time on a course in Switzerland 
and then sometime later that year while I was back in the USA teaching then 
hearing someone recount Maharishi as saying (as if literally) ‘there is a snake 
in the spine’, etc.  Jeez people!  
 I feel he stopped publicly talking about these aspects of embodiment of the 
primordial in the light body of the human being as it was too distracting for 
where a lot of people were at and where the  development of science was at in 
that time such that science then could not back up what is the spiritual 
reality.  
 

 Obviously the instrumentation is not yet there to image this and put a handle 
on it.  That sort of technological imaging in science research proly will catch 
up with spirituality in time. 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Yes, as breath is also intimate to the heart and subtle system it seems that 
working on alignment of these subtle energy systems of the spiritual nervous 
system is a lot of where so many of the meditating community have gone on to.  
 I have been going to these planning meetings with various movement people and 
it is pretty clear that some of those still narrowly vested in the strict ™ 
consciousness paradigm  don’t really get where people have gone in their 
spiritual experience.  More recently with the opening up of mental health 
policy inside TM, some clinical thinkers are moving to the direction of 
‘integral’ medicine but that only goes to incorporating cognitive modality as 
their means of getting to the heart of spiritual problems.  That is okay as one 
modality. The communal satsang of the old meditating community evidently has 
cultivated other experience with it.  
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I am predicting that breath, or prana will at some point, become a focus of 
western medicine. Probably before interest in something like energy centers 
takes hold. 
 The Upanishads, in particular, talk about the different breaths, and the 
functions they perform.  Breath may be something people can understand better 
than say, chakras. 

 Another area which has little or no public awareness is that of sexual energy, 
and how it pertains to overall health and mental acuity, at least as I see it.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 M stopped talking much about it publicly at points when faced with an 
intellectual skepticism about these energy centers:  ‘Thin lines of energy 
flowing in the central nervous system? ’ Where exactly?  

 Comparing to the science then at that time growing on 'consciousness' defined 
by meditation then to also describe and defend a subtle system which science 
has yet to be able to even image would be daunting at best given where people 
and science was at in time.  But clearly it was where he was going in his 
teachings and methods even to his last techniques in marma, vibrational 
modalities and the Ved and Physiology practice.  The guy was a visionary, sage, 
empiricist and necessarily practical going forward. We don't have so much 
guidance coming out of TM about it other than ideas of stress release and 
meditation checking so people over the years have also gone on in their 
experience.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Yes, thanks for the reply.  I do believe that spiritual development is a 
tricky endeavor, and that complications can arise, either due to an awakening 
of kundalini, or just an expanding of awareness.  I suppose it is helpful to 
have a support network to help sort things out, and lend a helping hand if 
necessary. 

 Of course, like anything, you can carried away by too much analysis, which can 
lead to mood making and other weird diversions .  Always difficult to find the 
right balance.
 

 Still sorting that out in my own life 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Yep, regardless of which meditation or spiritual practice some people can have 
trouble with kundalini flow (subtle energy centers) as their spirituality comes 
on or grows.  Evidently it is not by meditation necessarily but also occurs 
separately for some various people as kundalini development in the central 
subtle nervous system. Able to surface at any point as the spiritual system may 
grow, sometimes in the new spiritual aspirant or in long practiced or 
cultivated people.  This as its own continuum is different from the 
consciousness ‘awakening’ continuum that gets focused on in the TM 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!

[steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Not sure if this related to what you are referring to, but mainstream 
psychology is, I believe, completely clueless about spiritual experiences, and 
spiritual development, and how they may pertain to "issues" one might be 
having. 

 Just another reason why it would help to help to have a support group, or a 
professional who is more dialed in to that area of life.
 

 But, but, as a practical matter, and especially in a university setting, 
anyone who is having any sort of issue along these lines, i.e. mental 
instability would best be advised to seek the prevailing treatments, both 
because they can work in many cases, and for matters of liability.
 

 Spiritual solutions remain more in the realm of mystery, and rely more on one 
sorting things out oneself, or as I said, with the benefit of a teacher, or 
others who have tread that path. 
 

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Yes, as breath is also intimate to the heart and subtle system it seems that 
working on alignment of these subtle energy systems of the spiritual nervous 
system is a lot of where so many of the meditating community have gone on to.  
 I have been going to these planning meetings with various movement people and 
it is pretty clear that some of those still narrowly vested in the strict ™ 
consciousness paradigm  don’t really get where people have gone in their 
spiritual experience.  More recently with the opening up of mental health 
policy inside TM, some clinical thinkers are moving to the direction of 
‘integral’ medicine but that only goes to incorporating cognitive modality as 
their means of getting to the heart of spiritual problems.  That is okay as one 
modality. The communal satsang of the old meditating community evidently has 
cultivated other experience with it.  
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I am predicting that breath, or prana will at some point, become a focus of 
western medicine. Probably before interest in something like energy centers 
takes hold. 
 The Upanishads, in particular, talk about the different breaths, and the 
functions they perform.  Breath may be something people can understand better 
than say, chakras. 

 Another area which has little or no public awareness is that of sexual energy, 
and how it pertains to overall health and mental acuity, at least as I see it.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 M stopped talking much about it publicly at points when faced with an 
intellectual skepticism about these energy centers:  ‘Thin lines of energy 
flowing in the central nervous system? ’ Where exactly?  

 Comparing to the science then at that time growing on 'consciousness' defined 
by meditation then to also describe and defend a subtle system which science 
has yet to be able to even image would be daunting at best given where people 
and science was at in time.  But clearly it was where he was going in his 
teachings and methods even to his last techniques in marma, vibrational 
modalities and the Ved and Physiology practice.  The guy was a visionary, sage, 
empiricist and necessarily practical going forward. We don't have so much 
guidance coming out of TM about it other than ideas of stress release and 
meditation checking so people over the years have also gone on in their 
experience.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Yes, thanks for the reply.  I do believe that spiritual development is a 
tricky endeavor, and that complications can arise, either due to an awakening 
of kundalini, or just an expanding of awareness.  I suppose it is helpful to 
have a support network to help sort things out, and lend a helping hand if 
necessary. 

 Of course, like anything, you can carried away by too much analysis, which can 
lead to mood making and other weird diversions .  Always difficult to find the 
right balance.
 

 Still sorting that out in my own life 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Yep, regardless of which meditation or spiritual practice some people can have 
trouble with kundalini flow (subtle energy centers) as their spirituality comes 
on or grows.  Evidently it is not by meditation necessarily but also occurs 
separately for some various people as kundalini development in the central 
subtle nervous system. Able to surface at any point as the spiritual system may 
grow, sometimes in the new spiritual aspirant or in long practiced or 
cultivated people.  This as its own continuum is different from the 
consciousness ‘awakening’ continuum that gets focused on in the TM community or 
at Rick’s batgap, but can have its own development to talk about on continuum 
different than consciousness development.
 
 In satsang around Fairfield, Iowa people can surface periodically with 
troubles in the flow of their Kundalini subtle system.  This is particularly 
different than say psychological breaks like 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Yes, as breath is also intimate to the heart and subtle system it seems that 
working on alignment of these subtle energy systems of the spiritual nervous 
system is a lot of where so many of the meditating community have gone on to.  
 I have been going to these planning meetings with various movement people and 
it is pretty clear that some of those still narrowly vested in the strict ™ 
consciousness paradigm  don’t really get where people have gone in their 
spiritual experience.  More recently with the opening up of mental health 
policy inside TM, some clinical thinkers are moving to the direction of 
‘integral’ medicine but that only goes to incorporating cognitive modality as 
their means of getting to the heart of spiritual problems.  That is okay as one 
modality. The communal satsang of the old meditating community evidently has 
cultivated other experience with it.  
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I am predicting that breath, or prana will at some point, become a focus of 
western medicine. Probably before interest in something like energy centers 
takes hold. 
 The Upanishads, in particular, talk about the different breaths, and the 
functions they perform.  Breath may be something people can understand better 
than say, chakras. 

 Another area which has little or no public awareness is that of sexual energy, 
and how it pertains to overall health and mental acuity, at least as I see it.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 M stopped talking much about it publicly at points when faced with an 
intellectual skepticism about these energy centers:  ‘Thin lines of energy 
flowing in the central nervous system? ’ Where exactly?  

 Comparing to the science then at that time growing on 'consciousness' defined 
by meditation then to also describe and defend a subtle system which science 
has yet to be able to even image would be daunting at best given where people 
and science was at in time.  But clearly it was where he was going in his 
teachings and methods even to his last techniques in marma, vibrational 
modalities and the Ved and Physiology practice.  The guy was a visionary, sage, 
empiricist and necessarily practical going forward. We don't have so much 
guidance coming out of TM about it other than ideas of stress release and 
meditation checking so people over the years have also gone on in their 
experience.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Yes, thanks for the reply.  I do believe that spiritual development is a 
tricky endeavor, and that complications can arise, either due to an awakening 
of kundalini, or just an expanding of awareness.  I suppose it is helpful to 
have a support network to help sort things out, and lend a helping hand if 
necessary. 

 Of course, like anything, you can carried away by too much analysis, which can 
lead to mood making and other weird diversions .  Always difficult to find the 
right balance.
 

 Still sorting that out in my own life 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Yep, regardless of which meditation or spiritual practice some people can have 
trouble with kundalini flow (subtle energy centers) as their spirituality comes 
on or grows.  Evidently it is not by meditation necessarily but also occurs 
separately for some various people as kundalini development in the central 
subtle nervous system. Able to surface at any point as the spiritual system may 
grow, sometimes in the new spiritual aspirant or in long practiced or 
cultivated people.  This as its own continuum is different from the 
consciousness ‘awakening’ continuum that gets focused on in the TM community or 
at Rick’s batgap, but can have its own development to talk about on continuum 
different than consciousness development.
 
 In satsang around Fairfield, Iowa people can surface periodically with 
troubles in the flow of their Kundalini subtle system.  This is particularly 
different than say psychological breaks like bi-polar and such.  
 It was not something we were much guided in but there is a cohort of intuitive 
people and experienced people round who can be helpful to folks whose subtle 
systems are in rough times and not integrated enough in some ways to be easier 
with being a conduit for evidently more primordial energy referred to as 
kundalini, or the holy-ghost in x-ianity.  It can be a topic of conversation 
around Fairfield on different levels.  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 an particulars in this regard?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 In TM we did not get much guidance on this but those are interesting sutras to 
use.  
 My wife in community work as an RN, being intuitive, and being an old 
meditation teacher has been running into some people who are amidst some 
openings of kundalini. That has its spiritual reality for some 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!

[steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I am predicting that breath, or prana will at some point, become a focus of 
western medicine. Probably before interest in something like energy centers 
takes hold. 
 The Upanishads, in particular, talk about the different breaths, and the 
functions they perform.  Breath may be something people can understand better 
than say, chakras. 

 Another area which has little or no public awareness is that of sexual energy, 
and how it pertains to overall health and mental acuity, at least as I see it.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 M stopped talking much about it publicly at points when faced with an 
intellectual skepticism about these energy centers:  ‘Thin lines of energy 
flowing in the central nervous system? ’ Where exactly?  

 Comparing to the science then at that time growing on 'consciousness' defined 
by meditation then to also describe and defend a subtle system which science 
has yet to be able to even image would be daunting at best given where people 
and science was at in time.  But clearly it was where he was going in his 
teachings and methods even to his last techniques in marma, vibrational 
modalities and the Ved and Physiology practice.  The guy was a visionary, sage, 
empiricist and necessarily practical going forward. We don't have so much 
guidance coming out of TM about it other than ideas of stress release and 
meditation checking so people over the years have also gone on in their 
experience.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Yes, thanks for the reply.  I do believe that spiritual development is a 
tricky endeavor, and that complications can arise, either due to an awakening 
of kundalini, or just an expanding of awareness.  I suppose it is helpful to 
have a support network to help sort things out, and lend a helping hand if 
necessary. 

 Of course, like anything, you can carried away by too much analysis, which can 
lead to mood making and other weird diversions .  Always difficult to find the 
right balance.
 

 Still sorting that out in my own life 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Yep, regardless of which meditation or spiritual practice some people can have 
trouble with kundalini flow (subtle energy centers) as their spirituality comes 
on or grows.  Evidently it is not by meditation necessarily but also occurs 
separately for some various people as kundalini development in the central 
subtle nervous system. Able to surface at any point as the spiritual system may 
grow, sometimes in the new spiritual aspirant or in long practiced or 
cultivated people.  This as its own continuum is different from the 
consciousness ‘awakening’ continuum that gets focused on in the TM community or 
at Rick’s batgap, but can have its own development to talk about on continuum 
different than consciousness development.
 
 In satsang around Fairfield, Iowa people can surface periodically with 
troubles in the flow of their Kundalini subtle system.  This is particularly 
different than say psychological breaks like bi-polar and such.  
 It was not something we were much guided in but there is a cohort of intuitive 
people and experienced people round who can be helpful to folks whose subtle 
systems are in rough times and not integrated enough in some ways to be easier 
with being a conduit for evidently more primordial energy referred to as 
kundalini, or the holy-ghost in x-ianity.  It can be a topic of conversation 
around Fairfield on different levels.  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 an particulars in this regard?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 In TM we did not get much guidance on this but those are interesting sutras to 
use.  
 My wife in community work as an RN, being intuitive, and being an old 
meditation teacher has been running into some people who are amidst some 
openings of kundalini. That has its spiritual reality for some people which in 
some ways is also physiologic to the human psycho-spiritual system. . 
 Card’s sequence of sutras as energy centers that are in the YS may well be 
relevant. Also it seems was where Maharishi was going with his last technique, 
the Ved and Physiology technique. The sutras like that Ved and Physiology 
process can be handy to energetically reference;  along with some kind of 
mindful intent like these kind of directives in the yoga sutras in checking of 
the flow for some people in their mists and rough with it all.  Some things 
sort of like in point 30 of the old checking notes, if you remember those. 

 Going to these YS chapters and verse are like going back to reading my tractor 
repair manual for figuring out my tractor’s ignition system that just went 
haywire. 10th cranial nerve?  Sometimes you just have to go sit and attend to 
it under a shade tree.  But figure it out also by going to an old tractor 
mechanic who has more experience with 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

M stopped talking much about it publicly at points when faced with an 
intellectual skepticism about these energy centers:  ‘Thin lines of energy 
flowing in the central nervous system? ’ Where exactly?   Comparing to the 
science then at that time growing on 'consciousness' defined by meditation then 
to also describe and defend a subtle system which science has yet to be able to 
even image would be daunting at best given where people and science was at in 
time.  But clearly it was where he was going in his teachings and methods even 
to his last techniques in marma, vibrational modalities and the Ved and 
Physiology practice.  The guy was a visionary, sage, empiricist and necessarily 
practical going forward. We don't have so much guidance coming out of TM about 
it other than ideas of stress release and meditation checking so people over 
the years have also gone on in their experience.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Yes, thanks for the reply.  I do believe that spiritual development is a 
tricky endeavor, and that complications can arise, either due to an awakening 
of kundalini, or just an expanding of awareness.  I suppose it is helpful to 
have a support network to help sort things out, and lend a helping hand if 
necessary. 

 Of course, like anything, you can carried away by too much analysis, which can 
lead to mood making and other weird diversions .  Always difficult to find the 
right balance.
 

 Still sorting that out in my own life 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Yep, regardless of which meditation or spiritual practice some people can have 
trouble with kundalini flow (subtle energy centers) as their spirituality comes 
on or grows.  Evidently it is not by meditation necessarily but also occurs 
separately for some various people as kundalini development in the central 
subtle nervous system. Able to surface at any point as the spiritual system may 
grow, sometimes in the new spiritual aspirant or in long practiced or 
cultivated people.  This as its own continuum is different from the 
consciousness ‘awakening’ continuum that gets focused on in the TM community or 
at Rick’s batgap, but can have its own development to talk about on continuum 
different than consciousness development.
 
 In satsang around Fairfield, Iowa people can surface periodically with 
troubles in the flow of their Kundalini subtle system.  This is particularly 
different than say psychological breaks like bi-polar and such.  
 It was not something we were much guided in but there is a cohort of intuitive 
people and experienced people round who can be helpful to folks whose subtle 
systems are in rough times and not integrated enough in some ways to be easier 
with being a conduit for evidently more primordial energy referred to as 
kundalini, or the holy-ghost in x-ianity.  It can be a topic of conversation 
around Fairfield on different levels.  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 an particulars in this regard?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 In TM we did not get much guidance on this but those are interesting sutras to 
use.  
 My wife in community work as an RN, being intuitive, and being an old 
meditation teacher has been running into some people who are amidst some 
openings of kundalini. That has its spiritual reality for some people which in 
some ways is also physiologic to the human psycho-spiritual system. . 
 Card’s sequence of sutras as energy centers that are in the YS may well be 
relevant. Also it seems was where Maharishi was going with his last technique, 
the Ved and Physiology technique. The sutras like that Ved and Physiology 
process can be handy to energetically reference;  along with some kind of 
mindful intent like these kind of directives in the yoga sutras in checking of 
the flow for some people in their mists and rough with it all.  Some things 
sort of like in point 30 of the old checking notes, if you remember those. 

 Going to these YS chapters and verse are like going back to reading my tractor 
repair manual for figuring out my tractor’s ignition system that just went 
haywire. 10th cranial nerve?  Sometimes you just have to go sit and attend to 
it under a shade tree.  But figure it out also by going to an old tractor 
mechanic who has more experience with it.   
 


 

ultrarishi offers: You might be interested in the work of Stephen Porges and 
his Polyvagal Theory.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

 "..the physiological counterpart of kuurma-naaDii might well be the vagus 
nerve, which is the main parasympathetic nerve,"

 

 In the human, who is the highest expression of God on earth, it is the vagus 
or tenth cranial nerve that is the most receptive to this solar fire or energy, 
the spiritual fire coming down, the fire of the macrocosm. This fire energizes 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!

[steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Yes, thanks for the reply.  I do believe that spiritual development is a tricky 
endeavor, and that complications can arise, either due to an awakening of 
kundalini, or just an expanding of awareness.  I suppose it is helpful to have 
a support network to help sort things out, and lend a helping hand if 
necessary. 

 Of course, like anything, you can carried away by too much analysis, which can 
lead to mood making and other weird diversions .  Always difficult to find the 
right balance.
 

 Still sorting that out in my own life 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Yep, regardless of which meditation or spiritual practice some people can have 
trouble with kundalini flow (subtle energy centers) as their spirituality comes 
on or grows.  Evidently it is not by meditation necessarily but also occurs 
separately for some various people as kundalini development in the central 
subtle nervous system. Able to surface at any point as the spiritual system may 
grow, sometimes in the new spiritual aspirant or in long practiced or 
cultivated people.  This as its own continuum is different from the 
consciousness ‘awakening’ continuum that gets focused on in the TM community or 
at Rick’s batgap, but can have its own development to talk about on continuum 
different than consciousness development.
 
 In satsang around Fairfield, Iowa people can surface periodically with 
troubles in the flow of their Kundalini subtle system.  This is particularly 
different than say psychological breaks like bi-polar and such.  
 It was not something we were much guided in but there is a cohort of intuitive 
people and experienced people round who can be helpful to folks whose subtle 
systems are in rough times and not integrated enough in some ways to be easier 
with being a conduit for evidently more primordial energy referred to as 
kundalini, or the holy-ghost in x-ianity.  It can be a topic of conversation 
around Fairfield on different levels.  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 an particulars in this regard?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 In TM we did not get much guidance on this but those are interesting sutras to 
use.  
 My wife in community work as an RN, being intuitive, and being an old 
meditation teacher has been running into some people who are amidst some 
openings of kundalini. That has its spiritual reality for some people which in 
some ways is also physiologic to the human psycho-spiritual system. . 
 Card’s sequence of sutras as energy centers that are in the YS may well be 
relevant. Also it seems was where Maharishi was going with his last technique, 
the Ved and Physiology technique. The sutras like that Ved and Physiology 
process can be handy to energetically reference;  along with some kind of 
mindful intent like these kind of directives in the yoga sutras in checking of 
the flow for some people in their mists and rough with it all.  Some things 
sort of like in point 30 of the old checking notes, if you remember those. 

 Going to these YS chapters and verse are like going back to reading my tractor 
repair manual for figuring out my tractor’s ignition system that just went 
haywire. 10th cranial nerve?  Sometimes you just have to go sit and attend to 
it under a shade tree.  But figure it out also by going to an old tractor 
mechanic who has more experience with it.   
 


 

ultrarishi offers: You might be interested in the work of Stephen Porges and 
his Polyvagal Theory.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

 "..the physiological counterpart of kuurma-naaDii might well be the vagus 
nerve, which is the main parasympathetic nerve,"

 

 In the human, who is the highest expression of God on earth, it is the vagus 
or tenth cranial nerve that is the most receptive to this solar fire or energy, 
the spiritual fire coming down, the fire of the macrocosm. This fire energizes 
humans and uses them to express the qualities of love and wisdom.
 =Charlie Lutes
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

 Number 5, at least in my set (English: BT?), is the one that seems to 
correspond YS III 31:
 

 kuurma-naaDyaaM* sthairyam.
 

 Some translations:
 

 kUrmanaaDyaaM sthairyam
 [HA]: 
Calmness Is Attained By Samyama On The Bronchial Tube.
 [IT]: (32):
 (By performing Samyama) on the Kurma-nadi steadiness.
 [VH]: 
On the tortoise duct (tortoise), steadiness.
 [BM]: 
From perfect discipline of the “tortoise vein,” one’s being becomes steady.
 [SS]: (32):
 By samyama on the kurma nadi (a subtle tortoise-shaped tube located below the 
throat), motionless in the meditative posture is achieved.
 [SP]: 
(32) By making samyama on the tube within the chest, one acquires absolute 
motionlessness.
 [SV]: (32):
 
 On the nerve called Kurma (comes) fixity of the body.
 -
 I used to think that the "oiling" of joints, less tight 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Yep, regardless of which meditation or spiritual practice some people can have 
trouble with kundalini flow (subtle energy centers) as their spirituality comes 
on or grows.  Evidently it is not by meditation necessarily but also occurs 
separately for some various people as kundalini development in the central 
subtle nervous system. Able to surface at any point as the spiritual system may 
grow, sometimes in the new spiritual aspirant or in long practiced or 
cultivated people.  This as its own continuum is different from the 
consciousness ‘awakening’ continuum that gets focused on in the TM community or 
at Rick’s batgap, but can have its own development to talk about on continuum 
different than consciousness development.
 
 In satsang around Fairfield, Iowa people can surface periodically with 
troubles in the flow of their Kundalini subtle system.  This is particularly 
different than say psychological breaks like bi-polar and such.  
 It was not something we were much guided in but there is a cohort of intuitive 
people and experienced people round who can be helpful to folks whose subtle 
systems are in rough times and not integrated enough in some ways to be easier 
with being a conduit for evidently more primordial energy referred to as 
kundalini, or the holy-ghost in x-ianity.  It can be a topic of conversation 
around Fairfield on different levels.  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 an particulars in this regard?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 In TM we did not get much guidance on this but those are interesting sutras to 
use.  
 My wife in community work as an RN, being intuitive, and being an old 
meditation teacher has been running into some people who are amidst some 
openings of kundalini. That has its spiritual reality for some people which in 
some ways is also physiologic to the human psycho-spiritual system. . 
 Card’s sequence of sutras as energy centers that are in the YS may well be 
relevant. Also it seems was where Maharishi was going with his last technique, 
the Ved and Physiology technique. The sutras like that Ved and Physiology 
process can be handy to energetically reference;  along with some kind of 
mindful intent like these kind of directives in the yoga sutras in checking of 
the flow for some people in their mists and rough with it all.  Some things 
sort of like in point 30 of the old checking notes, if you remember those. 

 Going to these YS chapters and verse are like going back to reading my tractor 
repair manual for figuring out my tractor’s ignition system that just went 
haywire. 10th cranial nerve?  Sometimes you just have to go sit and attend to 
it under a shade tree.  But figure it out also by going to an old tractor 
mechanic who has more experience with it.   
 


 

ultrarishi offers: You might be interested in the work of Stephen Porges and 
his Polyvagal Theory.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

 "..the physiological counterpart of kuurma-naaDii might well be the vagus 
nerve, which is the main parasympathetic nerve,"

 

 In the human, who is the highest expression of God on earth, it is the vagus 
or tenth cranial nerve that is the most receptive to this solar fire or energy, 
the spiritual fire coming down, the fire of the macrocosm. This fire energizes 
humans and uses them to express the qualities of love and wisdom.
 =Charlie Lutes
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

 Number 5, at least in my set (English: BT?), is the one that seems to 
correspond YS III 31:
 

 kuurma-naaDyaaM* sthairyam.
 

 Some translations:
 

 kUrmanaaDyaaM sthairyam
 [HA]: 
Calmness Is Attained By Samyama On The Bronchial Tube.
 [IT]: (32):
 (By performing Samyama) on the Kurma-nadi steadiness.
 [VH]: 
On the tortoise duct (tortoise), steadiness.
 [BM]: 
From perfect discipline of the “tortoise vein,” one’s being becomes steady.
 [SS]: (32):
 By samyama on the kurma nadi (a subtle tortoise-shaped tube located below the 
throat), motionless in the meditative posture is achieved.
 [SP]: 
(32) By making samyama on the tube within the chest, one acquires absolute 
motionlessness.
 [SV]: (32):
 
 On the nerve called Kurma (comes) fixity of the body.
 -
 I used to think that the "oiling" of joints, less tight muscles and harder 
*rections after doing siddhis was mainly due to flying, but now it seems to me 
the main culprit might well be actually the BT above, after doing it a couple 
of times in isolation, or whatever.
 It seems to me the physiological counterpart of kuurma-naaDii might well be 
the vagus nerve, which is the main parasympathetic nerve, I believe. Wiki:
  The parasympathetic system is responsible for stimulation of 
"rest-and-digest" or "feed and breed"[2] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasympathetic_nervous_system#cite_note-2 
activities that occur when the body is at rest, especially 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!

[steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

an particulars in this regard?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 In TM we did not get much guidance on this but those are interesting sutras to 
use.  
 My wife in community work as an RN, being intuitive, and being an old 
meditation teacher has been running into some people who are amidst some 
openings of kundalini. That has its spiritual reality for some people which in 
some ways is also physiologic to the human psycho-spiritual system. . 
 Card’s sequence of sutras as energy centers that are in the YS may well be 
relevant. Also it seems was where Maharishi was going with his last technique, 
the Ved and Physiology technique. The sutras like that Ved and Physiology 
process can be handy to energetically reference;  along with some kind of 
mindful intent like these kind of directives in the yoga sutras in checking of 
the flow for some people in their mists and rough with it all.  Some things 
sort of like in point 30 of the old checking notes, if you remember those. 

 Going to these YS chapters and verse are like going back to reading my tractor 
repair manual for figuring out my tractor’s ignition system that just went 
haywire. 10th cranial nerve?  Sometimes you just have to go sit and attend to 
it under a shade tree.  But figure it out also by going to an old tractor 
mechanic who has more experience with it.   
 


 

ultrarishi offers: You might be interested in the work of Stephen Porges and 
his Polyvagal Theory.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

 "..the physiological counterpart of kuurma-naaDii might well be the vagus 
nerve, which is the main parasympathetic nerve,"

 

 In the human, who is the highest expression of God on earth, it is the vagus 
or tenth cranial nerve that is the most receptive to this solar fire or energy, 
the spiritual fire coming down, the fire of the macrocosm. This fire energizes 
humans and uses them to express the qualities of love and wisdom.
 =Charlie Lutes
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

 Number 5, at least in my set (English: BT?), is the one that seems to 
correspond YS III 31:
 

 kuurma-naaDyaaM* sthairyam.
 

 Some translations:
 

 kUrmanaaDyaaM sthairyam
 [HA]: 
Calmness Is Attained By Samyama On The Bronchial Tube.
 [IT]: (32):
 (By performing Samyama) on the Kurma-nadi steadiness.
 [VH]: 
On the tortoise duct (tortoise), steadiness.
 [BM]: 
From perfect discipline of the “tortoise vein,” one’s being becomes steady.
 [SS]: (32):
 By samyama on the kurma nadi (a subtle tortoise-shaped tube located below the 
throat), motionless in the meditative posture is achieved.
 [SP]: 
(32) By making samyama on the tube within the chest, one acquires absolute 
motionlessness.
 [SV]: (32):
 
 On the nerve called Kurma (comes) fixity of the body.
 -
 I used to think that the "oiling" of joints, less tight muscles and harder 
*rections after doing siddhis was mainly due to flying, but now it seems to me 
the main culprit might well be actually the BT above, after doing it a couple 
of times in isolation, or whatever.
 It seems to me the physiological counterpart of kuurma-naaDii might well be 
the vagus nerve, which is the main parasympathetic nerve, I believe. Wiki:
  The parasympathetic system is responsible for stimulation of 
"rest-and-digest" or "feed and breed"[2] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasympathetic_nervous_system#cite_note-2 
activities that occur when the body is at rest, especially after eating, 
including sexual arousal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_arousal, 
salivation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salivation, lacrimation 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tears (tears), urination 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urination, digestion 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digestion and defecation 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defecation. Its action is described as being 
complementary to that of the sympathetic nervous system 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sympathetic_nervous_system, which is responsible 
for stimulating activities associated with the fight-or-flight response 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fight-or-flight_response.

  (Sorry for my inaccurate wording. As I've told before, I'm a "grammarian", 
certainly not a "semantician"!)

 * locative (in, at, on, into, etc) singular from naaDii

[FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

In TM we did not get much guidance on this but those are interesting sutras to 
use.  
 My wife in community work as an RN, being intuitive, and being an old 
meditation teacher has been running into some people who are amidst some 
openings of kundalini. That has its spiritual reality for some people which in 
some ways is also physiologic to the human psycho-spiritual system. . 
 Card’s sequence of sutras as energy centers that are in the YS may well be 
relevant. Also it seems was where Maharishi was going with his last technique, 
the Ved and Physiology technique. The sutras like that Ved and Physiology 
process can be handy to energetically reference;  along with some kind of 
mindful intent like these kind of directives in the yoga sutras in checking of 
the flow for some people in their mists and rough with it all.  Some things 
sort of like in point 30 of the old checking notes, if you remember those. 

 Going to these YS chapters and verse are like going back to reading my tractor 
repair manual for figuring out my tractor’s ignition system that just went 
haywire. 10th cranial nerve?  Sometimes you just have to go sit and attend to 
it under a shade tree.  But figure it out also by going to an old tractor 
mechanic who has more experience with it.   
 


 

ultrarishi offers: You might be interested in the work of Stephen Porges and 
his Polyvagal Theory.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

 "..the physiological counterpart of kuurma-naaDii might well be the vagus 
nerve, which is the main parasympathetic nerve,"

 

 In the human, who is the highest expression of God on earth, it is the vagus 
or tenth cranial nerve that is the most receptive to this solar fire or energy, 
the spiritual fire coming down, the fire of the macrocosm. This fire energizes 
humans and uses them to express the qualities of love and wisdom.
 =Charlie Lutes
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

 Number 5, at least in my set (English: BT?), is the one that seems to 
correspond YS III 31:
 

 kuurma-naaDyaaM* sthairyam.
 

 Some translations:
 

 kUrmanaaDyaaM sthairyam
 [HA]: 
Calmness Is Attained By Samyama On The Bronchial Tube.
 [IT]: (32):
 (By performing Samyama) on the Kurma-nadi steadiness.
 [VH]: 
On the tortoise duct (tortoise), steadiness.
 [BM]: 
From perfect discipline of the “tortoise vein,” one’s being becomes steady.
 [SS]: (32):
 By samyama on the kurma nadi (a subtle tortoise-shaped tube located below the 
throat), motionless in the meditative posture is achieved.
 [SP]: 
(32) By making samyama on the tube within the chest, one acquires absolute 
motionlessness.
 [SV]: (32):
 
 On the nerve called Kurma (comes) fixity of the body.
 -
 I used to think that the "oiling" of joints, less tight muscles and harder 
*rections after doing siddhis was mainly due to flying, but now it seems to me 
the main culprit might well be actually the BT above, after doing it a couple 
of times in isolation, or whatever.
 It seems to me the physiological counterpart of kuurma-naaDii might well be 
the vagus nerve, which is the main parasympathetic nerve, I believe. Wiki:
  The parasympathetic system is responsible for stimulation of 
"rest-and-digest" or "feed and breed"[2] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasympathetic_nervous_system#cite_note-2 
activities that occur when the body is at rest, especially after eating, 
including sexual arousal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_arousal, 
salivation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salivation, lacrimation 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tears (tears), urination 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urination, digestion 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digestion and defecation 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defecation. Its action is described as being 
complementary to that of the sympathetic nervous system 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sympathetic_nervous_system, which is responsible 
for stimulating activities associated with the fight-or-flight response 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fight-or-flight_response.

  (Sorry for my inaccurate wording. As I've told before, I'm a "grammarian", 
certainly not a "semantician"!)

 * locative (in, at, on, into, etc) singular from naaDii

[FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!

[ultrarishi]

You might be interested in the work of Stephen Porges and his Polyvagal Theory.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!

[jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I've read that the Masons have a hidden practice of stimulating the vagus 
nerve, which was considered to be the sin of Adam and Eve.  On YouTube, someone 
published how the vagus nerve was stimulated.  It was a video made by 
fraternity guys in college.  They took turns hitting each other on the side of 
the jaw.  They were basically knocking each other out.  Thus, ends the mystery 
of this practice.  But a former member of the Masons denied the nature of this 
practice.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

 Number 5, at least in my set (English: BT?), is the one that seems to 
correspond YS III 31:
 

 kuurma-naaDyaaM* sthairyam.
 

 Some translations:
 

 kUrmanaaDyaaM sthairyam
 [HA]: 
Calmness Is Attained By Samyama On The Bronchial Tube.
 [IT]: (32):
 (By performing Samyama) on the Kurma-nadi steadiness.
 [VH]: 
On the tortoise duct (tortoise), steadiness.
 [BM]: 
From perfect discipline of the “tortoise vein,” one’s being becomes steady.
 [SS]: (32):
 By samyama on the kurma nadi (a subtle tortoise-shaped tube located below the 
throat), motionless in the meditative posture is achieved.
 [SP]: 
(32) By making samyama on the tube within the chest, one acquires absolute 
motionlessness.
 [SV]: (32):
 
 On the nerve called Kurma (comes) fixity of the body.
 -
 I used to think that the "oiling" of joints, less tight muscles and harder 
*rections after doing siddhis was mainly due to flying, but now it seems to me 
the main culprit might well be actually the BT above, after doing it a couple 
of times in isolation, or whatever.
 It seems to me the physiological counterpart of kuurma-naaDii might well be 
the vagus nerve, which is the main parasympathetic nerve, I believe. Wiki:
  The parasympathetic system is responsible for stimulation of 
"rest-and-digest" or "feed and breed"[2] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasympathetic_nervous_system#cite_note-2 
activities that occur when the body is at rest, especially after eating, 
including sexual arousal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_arousal, 
salivation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salivation, lacrimation 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tears (tears), urination 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urination, digestion 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digestion and defecation 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defecation. Its action is described as being 
complementary to that of the sympathetic nervous system 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sympathetic_nervous_system, which is responsible 
for stimulating activities associated with the fight-or-flight response 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fight-or-flight_response.

  (Sorry for my inaccurate wording. As I've told before, I'm a "grammarian", 
certainly not a "semantician"!)

 * locative (in, at, on, into, etc) singular from naaDii

[FairfieldLife] Re: Kuurma-naaDii and nervus vagus!

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 "..the physiological counterpart of kuurma-naaDii might well be the vagus 
nerve, which is the main parasympathetic nerve,"

 

 In the human, who is the highest expression of God on earth, it is the vagus 
or tenth cranial nerve that is the most receptive to this solar fire or energy, 
the spiritual fire coming down, the fire of the macrocosm. This fire energizes 
humans and uses them to express the qualities of love and wisdom.
 =Charlie Lutes
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

 Number 5, at least in my set (English: BT?), is the one that seems to 
correspond YS III 31:
 

 kuurma-naaDyaaM* sthairyam.
 

 Some translations:
 

 kUrmanaaDyaaM sthairyam
 [HA]: 
Calmness Is Attained By Samyama On The Bronchial Tube.
 [IT]: (32):
 (By performing Samyama) on the Kurma-nadi steadiness.
 [VH]: 
On the tortoise duct (tortoise), steadiness.
 [BM]: 
From perfect discipline of the “tortoise vein,” one’s being becomes steady.
 [SS]: (32):
 By samyama on the kurma nadi (a subtle tortoise-shaped tube located below the 
throat), motionless in the meditative posture is achieved.
 [SP]: 
(32) By making samyama on the tube within the chest, one acquires absolute 
motionlessness.
 [SV]: (32):
 
 On the nerve called Kurma (comes) fixity of the body.
 -
 I used to think that the "oiling" of joints, less tight muscles and harder 
*rections after doing siddhis was mainly due to flying, but now it seems to me 
the main culprit might well be actually the BT above, after doing it a couple 
of times in isolation, or whatever.
 It seems to me the physiological counterpart of kuurma-naaDii might well be 
the vagus nerve, which is the main parasympathetic nerve, I believe. Wiki:
  The parasympathetic system is responsible for stimulation of 
"rest-and-digest" or "feed and breed"[2] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasympathetic_nervous_system#cite_note-2 
activities that occur when the body is at rest, especially after eating, 
including sexual arousal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_arousal, 
salivation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salivation, lacrimation 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tears (tears), urination 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urination, digestion 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digestion and defecation 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defecation. Its action is described as being 
complementary to that of the sympathetic nervous system 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sympathetic_nervous_system, which is responsible 
for stimulating activities associated with the fight-or-flight response 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fight-or-flight_response.

  (Sorry for my inaccurate wording. As I've told before, I'm a "grammarian", 
certainly not a "semantician"!)

 * locative (in, at, on, into, etc) singular from naaDii