[FairfieldLife] Re: Miss California Cheated out of Crown
I think Australia stopped it. They said something like We have moved beyond it. --- On Sun, 5/24/09, John jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Miss California Cheated out of Crown Date: Sunday, May 24, 2009, 1:48 PM Knowing the tendencies of human beings, this pageant is not going away any time soon. OTOH, what is wrong with appreciating the female human form? Even the ancient vedic literature mentions various exalted female characters in the guise of Parvati, Mohini, Laksmi, and Urvasi. Urvasi is perhaps interesting in that she was an apsara, or celestial dancer, who fell in love with a human male. *
[FairfieldLife] Re: Miss California Cheated out of Crown
Beauty pagents are an anachronism of an ignorant era (1950's) It has no meaning in an intellectually enlightened society. To create a truly egalatarian society we have to move towards an Unisex dress code. I believe an Unisex dress code will go a long way in removing gender discrimination that has plagued human societies for centuries. --- On Tue, 4/21/09, TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Miss California Cheated out of Crown Date: Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 12:07 AM Because as we all know, beauty contests are about more noble things, like how hot the contestant looks in a bathing suit. The question that springs to my mind, John, is what a person with the kinds of ideas you have espoused here about women as temptresses and the joys of celibacy and purity doing watching a beauty contest? The second question that springs to mind is, What were you doing with your right hand while popping popcorn into your mouth with the left hand? :-) --- John jr_...@... wrote: To All: Miss California had all the goods to win the Miss America crown. She was cheated by a blogger who asked a politically sensitive question about gay marriage. Questions like that should not have been allowed in a beauty contest. *
[FairfieldLife] Re: Miss California Cheated out of Crown
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_sp...@... wrote: Beauty pagents are an anachronism of an ignorant era (1950's) It has no meaning in an intellectually enlightened society. To create a truly egalatarian society we have to move towards an Unisex dress code. snip, Being from the ignorant era, I have to say that things have gone downhill since. Also, you might be right as I couldn't get this reply to post at first.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Miss California Cheated out of Crown
Knowing the tendencies of human beings, this pageant is not going away any time soon. OTOH, what is wrong with appreciating the female human form? Even the ancient vedic literature mentions various exalted female characters in the guise of Parvati, Mohini, Laksmi, and Urvasi. Urvasi is perhaps interesting in that she was an apsara, or celestial dancer, who fell in love with a human male. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_sp...@... wrote: Beauty pagents are an anachronism of an ignorant era (1950's) It has no meaning in an intellectually enlightened society. To create a truly egalatarian society we have to move towards an Unisex dress code. I believe an Unisex dress code will go a long way in removing gender discrimination that has plagued human societies for centuries. --- On Tue, 4/21/09, TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Miss California Cheated out of Crown Date: Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 12:07 AM Because as we all know, beauty contests are about more noble things, like how hot the contestant looks in a bathing suit. The question that springs to my mind, John, is what a person with the kinds of ideas you have espoused here about women as temptresses and the joys of celibacy and purity doing watching a beauty contest? The second question that springs to mind is, What were you doing with your right hand while popping popcorn into your mouth with the left hand? :-) --- John jr_esq@ wrote: To All: Miss California had all the goods to win the Miss America crown. She was cheated by a blogger who asked a politically sensitive question about gay marriage. Questions like that should not have been allowed in a beauty contest. *
[FairfieldLife] Re: Miss California Cheated out of Crown
(snip) Boy! Was I right about Ms.Fake California, or what? Fake, fake and fake breast implants and that silly, silly manner of prancing up and down the stage with those false boobers... Let's get real here, Ms. California...would the real Ms. California please stand up... What a bunch of 'Thou Protest Too Much!' The big secret of Ms. California: 'Lesbian Tendencies!' R.g.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Miss California Cheated out of Crown
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcg...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: To All: Miss California had all the goods to win the Miss America crown. She was cheated by a blogger who asked a politically sensitive question about gay marriage. Questions like that should not have been allowed in a beauty contest. She could have answered the question with something along the lines of I think it's up to the individual states to decide for themselves whether same sex marriage should be legalized. The question did not require her to state her personal views about same sex marriage. She stupidly and needlessly included information in her answer that cost her the crown. Basically, the question was a test of intelligence and social skills, and she failed miserably. All she had to do was say: I take the position of my president, Barack Obama, and believe that marriage is defined by one man and one woman. That would have been so clever and intelligent! But, alas this girl, who had to have her tits implanted, at such a young age? (what's that about?) She really wouldn't be as clever or intelligent or sensitive to have pondered anything that wasn't completely redundant. Vegas needs some transcending, it's so superficial! R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Miss California Cheated out of Crown
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: To All: Miss California had all the goods to win the Miss America crown. She was cheated by a blogger who asked a politically sensitive question about gay marriage. Questions like that should not have been allowed in a beauty contest. She could have answered the question with something along the lines of I think it's up to the individual states to decide for themselves whether same sex marriage should be legalized. The question did not require her to state her personal views about same sex marriage. She stupidly and needlessly included information in her answer that cost her the crown. Basically, the question was a test of intelligence and social skills, and she failed miserably. All she had to do was say: I take the position of my president, Barack Obama, and believe that marriage is defined by one man and one woman. That would have been so clever and intelligent! But, alas this girl, who had to have her tits implanted, at such a young age? (what's that about?) That's sad. How do you know about it? What I noticed were her teeth. They looked like the ivory on a baby grand piano. And the whiteness of them momentarily blinded me. She really wouldn't be as clever or intelligent or sensitive to have pondered anything that wasn't completely redundant. Vegas needs some transcending, it's so superficial! R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Miss California Cheated out of Crown
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcg...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: To All: Miss California had all the goods to win the Miss America crown. She was cheated by a blogger who asked a politically sensitive question about gay marriage. Questions like that should not have been allowed in a beauty contest. She could have answered the question with something along the lines of I think it's up to the individual states to decide for themselves whether same sex marriage should be legalized. The question did not require her to state her personal views about same sex marriage. She stupidly and needlessly included information in her answer that cost her the crown. Basically, the question was a test of intelligence and social skills, and she failed miserably. All she had to do was say: I take the position of my president, Barack Obama, and believe that marriage is defined by one man and one woman. That would have been so clever and intelligent! But, alas this girl, who had to have her tits implanted, at such a young age? (what's that about?) That's sad. How do you know about it? (snip) I can stop them a mile away...so fake! The way you can tell is that they are not natural; they look like they stuffed something inside them, so they stick out unnaturally... Very sick, indeed! R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Miss California Cheated out of Crown
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: To All: Miss California had all the goods to win the Miss America crown. She was cheated by a blogger who asked a politically sensitive question about gay marriage. Questions like that should not have been allowed in a beauty contest. She could have answered the question with something along the lines of I think it's up to the individual states to decide for themselves whether same sex marriage should be legalized. The question did not require her to state her personal views about same sex marriage. She stupidly and needlessly included information in her answer that cost her the crown. Basically, the question was a test of intelligence and social skills, and she failed miserably. I'd like to hear from our resident lawyer, Reevis, on this but I actually don't think, in the final analysis, it is up to the individual states. I always thought because of the Full Faith and Credit provision of the constitution that civil matters such as this would have to be approved by all states because it is required that marriages done in one state have to be recognized in all states. And a gay marriage in, say, Vermont will NOT be recognized in, say, Mississippi. I am fully prepared to be corrected on this but that is how I understand it. All she had to do was say: I take the position of my president, Barack Obama, and believe that marriage is defined by one man and one woman. That would have been so clever and intelligent! But, alas this girl, who had to have her tits implanted, at such a young age? (what's that about?) That's sad. How do you know about it? (snip) I can stop them a mile away...so fake! The way you can tell is that they are not natural; they look like they stuffed something inside them, so they stick out unnaturally... Very sick, indeed! R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Miss California Cheated out of Crown
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote: To All: Miss California had all the goods to win the Miss America crown. She was cheated by a blogger who asked a politically sensitive question about gay marriage. Questions like that should not have been allowed in a beauty contest. She could have answered the question with something along the lines of I think it's up to the individual states to decide for themselves whether same sex marriage should be legalized. The question did not require her to state her personal views about same sex marriage. She stupidly and needlessly included information in her answer that cost her the crown. Basically, the question was a test of intelligence and social skills, and she failed miserably.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Miss California Cheated out of Crown
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: To All: Miss California had all the goods to win the Miss America crown. She was cheated by a blogger who asked a politically sensitive question about gay marriage. Questions like that should not have been allowed in a beauty contest. She could have answered the question with something along the lines of I think it's up to the individual states to decide for themselves whether same sex marriage should be legalized. The question did not require her to state her personal views about same sex marriage. She stupidly and needlessly included information in her answer that cost her the crown. Basically, the question was a test of intelligence and social skills, and she failed miserably. All she had to do was say: I take the position of my president, Barack Obama, and believe that marriage is defined by one man and one woman.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Miss California Cheated out of Crown
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote: To All: Miss California had all the goods to win the Miss America crown. She was cheated by a blogger who asked a politically sensitive question about gay marriage. Questions like that should not have been allowed in a beauty contest. Because as we all know, beauty contests are about more noble things, like how hot the contestant looks in a bathing suit. The question that springs to my mind, John, is what a person with the kinds of ideas you have espoused here about women as temptresses and the joys of celibacy and purity doing watching a beauty contest? The second question that springs to mind is, What were you doing with your right hand while popping popcorn into your mouth with the left hand? :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Miss California Cheated out of Crown
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: To All: Miss California had all the goods to win the Miss America crown. She was cheated by a blogger who asked a politically sensitive question about gay marriage. Questions like that should not have been allowed in a beauty contest. Because as we all know, beauty contests are about more noble things, like how hot the contestant looks in a bathing suit. The question that springs to my mind, John, is what a person with the kinds of ideas you have espoused here about women as temptresses and the joys of celibacy and purity doing watching a beauty contest? Why do you assume that John watched the beauty contest? I didn't watch it but know of the controversy because it was covered all over the internet. Indeed, I dare say that only a small percentage of the US population (5%?) watched the actual contest but many, many more know of the controversy. The second question that springs to mind is, What were you doing with your right hand while popping popcorn into your mouth with the left hand? :-)
