Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Normal Muslims
I'm not stretching that far; in 1985 the FBI considered them "the second most dangerous domestic terrorist organization." They were around for at least a decade. Homegrown "Christian" terrorists. No, I'm not "advanced" anything...:) I am practicing mindfulness these days, in the sense that I try to stay present and aware and quiet, actually. I admit I am noisier here than is necessary. There is an ever-shifting definition of the word "radical" and opinions and views fluctuate wildly and often (if one looks at polls and surveys). Note I said "relatively" small. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : CSA? Emily you're really stretching. Did you say you were into really advanced Hatha Yoga? Wahabbi and Shiites are no small fundamentalist groups and are the source of most of the violence coming out of Islam. From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 6:10 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Normal Muslims I think applying the "terrorist ideology" of a relatively small fundamentalist group/organization to a worldwide religion and billions of people all over the world, including those in our own country, is an extremist position that leads to irrational fear and unwarranted action and greater violence. Re: Fundamentalist Christian sects and violence, look up the group "The Covenant, the Sword and The Arm of the Lord" to start. They are out there. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : And how do you *weed* out the splinter factions of Islam, ask them if they are extreme and radical and hope they don't respond with Taqiyya ? There are well over a billion Muslims in the world.A small fraction can easily be more than the entire population of the United States. It only took 18 to cause mayhem on 9/11, single individuals on multiple other occasions and two the other day.I don't know of any extreme Fundamentalist Christian sects trying to take over the country by force using murder as a tool. From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Normal Muslims This article goes into depth and gives a reasoned perspective on Taqiyya, in that it puts it all into a historical and cultural, etc. context that makes sense. I don't support the "splinter" faction of Islam that represents the "radical jihadists." Nor do I believe in fundamentalist Christianity. Both are extremist, rigid, and inflexible in their views; fear-based, imho. Silencing Spencer: Taqiyya and Kitman are part of Judeo-Christian Belief http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/08/silencing-spencer-taqiyya-and-kitman-are-part-of-judeo-christian-belief/ Silencing Spencer: Taqiyya and Kitman are part of Judeo-Christian Belief http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/08/silencing-spencer-taqiyya-and-kitman-are-part-of-judeo-christian-belief/ Danios delivers yet another masterpiece rebuttal that exposes Robert Spencer’s “scholarly” ways. View on www.loonwatch.com http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/08/silencing-spencer-taqiyya-and-kitman-are-part-of-judeo-christian-belief/ Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Normal Muslims
CSA? Emily you're really stretching. Did you say you were into really
advanced Hatha Yoga?
Wahabbi and Shiites are no small fundamentalist groups and are the source of
most of the violence coming out of Islam.
From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Normal Muslims
I think applying the "terrorist ideology" of a relatively small
fundamentalist group/organization to a worldwide religion and billions of
people all over the world, including those in our own country, is an extremist
position that leads to irrational fear and unwarranted action and greater
violence.
Re: Fundamentalist Christian sects and violence, look up the group "The
Covenant, the Sword and The Arm of the Lord" to start. They are out there.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
And how do you *weed* out the splinter factions of Islam, ask them if they are
extreme and radical and hope they don't respond with Taqiyya ? There are well
over a billion Muslims in the world.A small fraction can easily be more than
the entire population of the United States. It only took 18 to cause mayhem on
9/11, single individuals on multiple other occasions and two the other day.I
don't know of any extreme Fundamentalist Christian sects trying to take over
the country by force using murder as a tool.
From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Normal Muslims
This article goes into depth and gives a reasoned perspective on Taqiyya, in
that it puts it all into a historical and cultural, etc. context that makes
sense. I don't support the "splinter" faction of Islam that represents the
"radical jihadists." Nor do I believe in fundamentalist Christianity. Both
are extremist, rigid, and inflexible in their views; fear-based, imho.
Silencing Spencer: Taqiyya and Kitman are part of Judeo-Christian Belief
| |
| | Silencing Spencer: Taqiyya and Kitman are part of Judeo-Christian
Belief Danios delivers yet another masterpiece rebuttal that exposes Robert
Spencer’s “scholarly” ways. | |
| View on www.loonwatch.com| Preview by Yahoo |
| |
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Normal Muslims
I think applying the "terrorist ideology" of a relatively small fundamentalist group/organization to a worldwide religion and billions of people all over the world, including those in our own country, is an extremist position that leads to irrational fear and unwarranted action and greater violence. Re: Fundamentalist Christian sects and violence, look up the group "The Covenant, the Sword and The Arm of the Lord" to start. They are out there. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : And how do you *weed* out the splinter factions of Islam, ask them if they are extreme and radical and hope they don't respond with Taqiyya ? There are well over a billion Muslims in the world.A small fraction can easily be more than the entire population of the United States. It only took 18 to cause mayhem on 9/11, single individuals on multiple other occasions and two the other day.I don't know of any extreme Fundamentalist Christian sects trying to take over the country by force using murder as a tool. From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Normal Muslims This article goes into depth and gives a reasoned perspective on Taqiyya, in that it puts it all into a historical and cultural, etc. context that makes sense. I don't support the "splinter" faction of Islam that represents the "radical jihadists." Nor do I believe in fundamentalist Christianity. Both are extremist, rigid, and inflexible in their views; fear-based, imho. Silencing Spencer: Taqiyya and Kitman are part of Judeo-Christian Belief http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/08/silencing-spencer-taqiyya-and-kitman-are-part-of-judeo-christian-belief/ Silencing Spencer: Taqiyya and Kitman are part of Judeo-Christian Belief http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/08/silencing-spencer-taqiyya-and-kitman-are-part-of-judeo-christian-belief/ Danios delivers yet another masterpiece rebuttal that exposes Robert Spencer’s “scholarly” ways. View on www.loonwatch.com http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/08/silencing-spencer-taqiyya-and-kitman-are-part-of-judeo-christian-belief/ Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Normal Muslims
And how do you *weed* out the splinter factions of Islam, ask them if they are
extreme and radical and hope they don't respond with Taqiyya ? There are well
over a billion Muslims in the world.A small fraction can easily be more than
the entire population of the United States. It only took 18 to cause mayhem on
9/11, single individuals on multiple other occasions and two the other day.I
don't know of any extreme Fundamentalist Christian sects trying to take over
the country by force using murder as a tool.
From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Normal Muslims
This article goes into depth and gives a reasoned perspective on Taqiyya,
in that it puts it all into a historical and cultural, etc. context that makes
sense. I don't support the "splinter" faction of Islam that represents the
"radical jihadists." Nor do I believe in fundamentalist Christianity. Both
are extremist, rigid, and inflexible in their views; fear-based, imho.
Silencing Spencer: Taqiyya and Kitman are part of Judeo-Christian Belief
||
|| Silencing Spencer: Taqiyya and Kitman are part of Judeo-Christian
Belief Danios delivers yet another masterpiece rebuttal that exposes Robert
Spencer’s “scholarly” ways.||
| View on www.loonwatch.com |Preview by Yahoo|
||
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Normal Muslims
This article goes into depth and gives a reasoned perspective on Taqiyya, in that it puts it all into a historical and cultural, etc. context that makes sense. I don't support the "splinter" faction of Islam that represents the "radical jihadists." Nor do I believe in fundamentalist Christianity. Both are extremist, rigid, and inflexible in their views; fear-based, imho. Silencing Spencer: Taqiyya and Kitman are part of Judeo-Christian Belief http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/08/silencing-spencer-taqiyya-and-kitman-are-part-of-judeo-christian-belief/ Silencing Spencer: Taqiyya and Kitman are part of Judeo-Christian Belief http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/08/silencing-spencer-taqiyya-and-kitman-are-part-of-judeo-christian-belief/ Danios delivers yet another masterpiece rebuttal that exposes Robert Spencer’s “scholarly” ways. View on www.loonwatch.com http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/08/silencing-spencer-taqiyya-and-kitman-are-part-of-judeo-christian-belief/ Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Normal Muslims
And if you choose to research Taqiyya, you might also research Hudna. Hudna is
the practice of cease fire while Muslims regroup to resume their Jihad from a
strengthened position. By hook or by crook! By all means necessary. Wasn't that
what Malcolm-X said?
From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 9:31 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Normal Muslims
Taqiyya- the act of lying to Infidels about Islam to advance Islam.
Deceiving non believers about the true intentions of Islam.
From: Mike Dixon
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 8:31 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Normal Muslims
I have studied Islam in two different courses in college. One comparative
religions and the other Eastern studies. Both courses were studied long
before there was any modern day Islamic terrorism, long before there was any
negativity associated with it in public opinion. While Islamic culture has had
it's share of positive influences in the world community, the religion it's
self has almost always been spread by force. One of the basic tenets of Islam
is *Submission*,willingly or by *the sword*. As it moves into a region, it's
intentions are expressed as peace, love and justice as long as Muslims are a
small minority, only seeking tolerance. As acceptance grows, they become more
demanding. As they become a majority, they lose their tolerance of others and
demand submission to them. Hindus were among the first to resist the spread of
Islam but not until there had been a massive take over of their part of the
world and destruction of Sanatana Dharma where they had conquered. India used
to be from Afghanistan to the eastern Himalaya. Islam's spread was stopped in
southern India before they could destroy the ancient temples in the south. It
was resisted in Europe at Turkey and Spain but not without a lot of bloodshed.
So yes, I have studied Islam to some degree, a little more than most people and
from a religious and historical perspective. You seem to have *studied* what
Muslims want you to believe and not all of the facts. There is a principal in
Islam, I forget the word they use, but it allows a Muslim to lie to Infidels if
that lie advances Islam. In other words, Islam shall spread by hook or by
crook and if need be by the sword! The tolerance you show them will never be
shown to you once they have the power and dominance they seek. Hayam Dhukam
Anagatam.
From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2015 8:38 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Normal Muslims
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
It's kind of interesting. The NBC news tonight kept referring to the two
terrorists, Sayed Farook and Tashfeen Malik as being described as *normal
religious Muslims*. BINGO! So, how are all of these new 10,000 plus refugees
going to be vetted?Just wondering who vetted Malik.
Watch the link Barry 2 posted just now. And while you're at it, read up on the
Muslim faith.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Normal Muslims
Taqiyya- the act of lying to Infidels about Islam to advance Islam. Deceiving
non believers about the true intentions of Islam.
From: Mike Dixon
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 8:31 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Normal Muslims
I have studied Islam in two different courses in college. One comparative
religions and the other Eastern studies. Both courses were studied long
before there was any modern day Islamic terrorism, long before there was any
negativity associated with it in public opinion. While Islamic culture has had
it's share of positive influences in the world community, the religion it's
self has almost always been spread by force. One of the basic tenets of Islam
is *Submission*,willingly or by *the sword*. As it moves into a region, it's
intentions are expressed as peace, love and justice as long as Muslims are a
small minority, only seeking tolerance. As acceptance grows, they become more
demanding. As they become a majority, they lose their tolerance of others and
demand submission to them. Hindus were among the first to resist the spread of
Islam but not until there had been a massive take over of their part of the
world and destruction of Sanatana Dharma where they had conquered. India used
to be from Afghanistan to the eastern Himalaya. Islam's spread was stopped in
southern India before they could destroy the ancient temples in the south. It
was resisted in Europe at Turkey and Spain but not without a lot of bloodshed.
So yes, I have studied Islam to some degree, a little more than most people and
from a religious and historical perspective. You seem to have *studied* what
Muslims want you to believe and not all of the facts. There is a principal in
Islam, I forget the word they use, but it allows a Muslim to lie to Infidels if
that lie advances Islam. In other words, Islam shall spread by hook or by
crook and if need be by the sword! The tolerance you show them will never be
shown to you once they have the power and dominance they seek. Hayam Dhukam
Anagatam.
From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2015 8:38 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Normal Muslims
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
It's kind of interesting. The NBC news tonight kept referring to the two
terrorists, Sayed Farook and Tashfeen Malik as being described as *normal
religious Muslims*. BINGO! So, how are all of these new 10,000 plus refugees
going to be vetted?Just wondering who vetted Malik.
Watch the link Barry 2 posted just now. And while you're at it, read up on the
Muslim faith. #yiv2072853965 -- #yiv2072853965ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Normal Muslims
I have studied Islam in two different courses in college. One comparative
religions and the other Eastern studies. Both courses were studied long
before there was any modern day Islamic terrorism, long before there was any
negativity associated with it in public opinion. While Islamic culture has had
it's share of positive influences in the world community, the religion it's
self has almost always been spread by force. One of the basic tenets of Islam
is *Submission*,willingly or by *the sword*. As it moves into a region, it's
intentions are expressed as peace, love and justice as long as Muslims are a
small minority, only seeking tolerance. As acceptance grows, they become more
demanding. As they become a majority, they lose their tolerance of others and
demand submission to them. Hindus were among the first to resist the spread of
Islam but not until there had been a massive take over of their part of the
world and destruction of Sanatana Dharma where they had conquered. India used
to be from Afghanistan to the eastern Himalaya. Islam's spread was stopped in
southern India before they could destroy the ancient temples in the south. It
was resisted in Europe at Turkey and Spain but not without a lot of bloodshed.
So yes, I have studied Islam to some degree, a little more than most people and
from a religious and historical perspective. You seem to have *studied* what
Muslims want you to believe and not all of the facts. There is a principal in
Islam, I forget the word they use, but it allows a Muslim to lie to Infidels if
that lie advances Islam. In other words, Islam shall spread by hook or by
crook and if need be by the sword! The tolerance you show them will never be
shown to you once they have the power and dominance they seek. Hayam Dhukam
Anagatam.
From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2015 8:38 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Normal Muslims
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
It's kind of interesting. The NBC news tonight kept referring to the two
terrorists, Sayed Farook and Tashfeen Malik as being described as *normal
religious Muslims*. BINGO! So, how are all of these new 10,000 plus refugees
going to be vetted?Just wondering who vetted Malik.
Watch the link Barry 2 posted just now. And while you're at it, read up on the
Muslim faith. #yiv8544278265 #yiv8544278265 -- #yiv8544278265ygrp-mkp
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Normal Muslims
She was still *vetted*, even under the fiancee visa system. As far as the
refugees go, the FBI has admitted that they can not thoroughly vet them as they
would like because their records from their home towns are not available. In
many or most cases, they've been destroyed during the war. I'm not so sure the
government of Syria has any desire to help. These are people that would be
considered enemies of Assad. The United States government had access to any
records of Tashfeen Malik that they needed or wanted.
From: feste37
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2015 6:51 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Normal Muslims
>From what I'm reading, she got in on a "fiancee visa," which I've never heard
>of before, and the whole process seems easier and quicker, as far as getting
>approved is concerned. The refugees would go through a different screening
>process.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
It's kind of interesting. The NBC news tonight kept referring to the two
terrorists, Sayed Farook and Tashfeen Malik as being described as *normal
religious Muslims*. BINGO! So, how are all of these new 10,000 plus refugees
going to be vetted?Just wondering who vetted Malik.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Normal Muslims
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : It's kind of interesting. The NBC news tonight kept referring to the two terrorists, Sayed Farook and Tashfeen Malik as being described as *normal religious Muslims*. BINGO! So, how are all of these new 10,000 plus refugees going to be vetted?Just wondering who vetted Malik. Watch the link Barry 2 posted just now. And while you're at it, read up on the Muslim faith.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Normal Muslims
From what I'm reading, she got in on a "fiancee visa," which I've never heard of before, and the whole process seems easier and quicker, as far as getting approved is concerned. The refugees would go through a different screening process. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : It's kind of interesting. The NBC news tonight kept referring to the two terrorists, Sayed Farook and Tashfeen Malik as being described as *normal religious Muslims*. BINGO! So, how are all of these new 10,000 plus refugees going to be vetted?Just wondering who vetted Malik.
