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BTW, thanks for posting this. I finally got back and read the whole thing later yesterday. What Occupy should do now is form a political party. It would scare the beejeezuz out of the rich. As Wolff points out FDR was able finance government jobs by raising the taxes on the rich and got the rich to go along because they feared the socialists and communists would take over otherwise. Nobody these days would join those two parties but they probably would an Occupy Party. On 02/24/2012 10:06 AM, Emily Reyn wrote: I typed out pieces of this interview before it was posted online by the magazine. I don't read much real economics, but I subscribe to this magazine. Wolff, of course, believes capitalism is a failing system as currently structured. This is the whole interview. http://www.thesunmagazine.org/issues/434/capitalism_and_its_discontents From: seekliberationseekliberat...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 9:21 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's New Campaign Slogan... As much as I don't care for Obama, there's not really much to complain about. What are our choices? The GOP hasn't put out any enlightening choices this time around. No one is contesting Obama for the Democrat nomination. So we're stuck with him another 4 years. Worst of all, whether democrat or republican, each party has increased the deficit for the past 35+ years. So once again, we can't really blame either party for what they are BOTH doing. My personal opinion, although dark and gloomy, is that we're not going to fix this problem unless the system collapses. Americans, from what i've observed in this life, live for the 'now'. People don't want to suck it up for a few years and make significant cuts in our govt spending to save our economy. It seems we think we can go on living like this without anything collapsing. To me, America is no different than a young couple who keep maxing out credit cards with no plan to pay off their debt. They just have an attitude of entitlement to the things they buy. Sooner or later they'll have to declare bankruptcy and their lives will be even harder than if they would've been responsible from day 1. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4uanitaoaks4u@... wrote: Come unto me, all ye that labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you Food Stamps and Unemployment Checks. Da King James (soul version), Matthew 11:28, (Special Ebonics translation).
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's New Campaign Slogan...
Your words seem racist and bitter...have you ever been unemployed? MMY: ...the parental role of government, which is to prevent problems for the nation. A perfect man will be naturally harmonious within himself and will naturally radiate that harmony into his surroundings. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u anitaoaks4u@... wrote: Come unto me, all ye that labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you Food Stamps and Unemployment Checks. Da King James (soul version), Matthew 11:28, (Special Ebonics translation).
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's New Campaign Slogan...
As much as I don't care for Obama, there's not really much to complain about. What are our choices? The GOP hasn't put out any enlightening choices this time around. No one is contesting Obama for the Democrat nomination. So we're stuck with him another 4 years. Worst of all, whether democrat or republican, each party has increased the deficit for the past 35+ years. So once again, we can't really blame either party for what they are BOTH doing. My personal opinion, although dark and gloomy, is that we're not going to fix this problem unless the system collapses. Americans, from what i've observed in this life, live for the 'now'. People don't want to suck it up for a few years and make significant cuts in our govt spending to save our economy. It seems we think we can go on living like this without anything collapsing. To me, America is no different than a young couple who keep maxing out credit cards with no plan to pay off their debt. They just have an attitude of entitlement to the things they buy. Sooner or later they'll have to declare bankruptcy and their lives will be even harder than if they would've been responsible from day 1. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u anitaoaks4u@... wrote: Come unto me, all ye that labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you Food Stamps and Unemployment Checks. Da King James (soul version), Matthew 11:28, (Special Ebonics translation).
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, martyboi martyboi@... wrote: Your words seem racist and bitter...have you ever been unemployed? We got a President out there lying through his teeth, wake up! MMY: ...the parental role of government, which is to prevent problems for the nation. A perfect man will be naturally harmonious within himself and will naturally radiate that harmony into his surroundings. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u anitaoaks4u@ wrote: Come unto me, all ye that labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you Food Stamps and Unemployment Checks. Da King James (soul version), Matthew 11:28, (Special Ebonics translation).
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's New Campaign Slogan...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@... wrote: As much as I don't care for Obama, there's not really much to complain about. What are our choices? The GOP hasn't put out any enlightening choices this time around. No one is contesting Obama for the Democrat nomination. So we're stuck with him another 4 years. Worst of all, whether democrat or republican, each party has increased the deficit for the past 35+ years. So once again, we can't really blame either party for what they are BOTH doing. My personal opinion, although dark and gloomy, is that we're not going to fix this problem unless the system collapses. Americans, from what i've observed in this life, live for the 'now'. People don't want to suck it up for a few years and make significant cuts in our govt spending to save our economy. It seems we think we can go on living like this without anything collapsing. To me, America is no different than a young couple who keep maxing out credit cards with no plan to pay off their debt. They just have an attitude of entitlement to the things they buy. Sooner or later they'll have to declare bankruptcy and their lives will be even harder than if they would've been responsible from day 1. seekliberation Right on Bro., America is following the footsteps of Greece, IMHO. And yes, BOTH parties are responsible.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's New Campaign Slogan...
I typed out pieces of this interview before it was posted online by the magazine. I don't read much real economics, but I subscribe to this magazine. Wolff, of course, believes capitalism is a failing system as currently structured. This is the whole interview. http://www.thesunmagazine.org/issues/434/capitalism_and_its_discontents From: seekliberation seekliberat...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 9:21 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's New Campaign Slogan... As much as I don't care for Obama, there's not really much to complain about. What are our choices? The GOP hasn't put out any enlightening choices this time around. No one is contesting Obama for the Democrat nomination. So we're stuck with him another 4 years. Worst of all, whether democrat or republican, each party has increased the deficit for the past 35+ years. So once again, we can't really blame either party for what they are BOTH doing. My personal opinion, although dark and gloomy, is that we're not going to fix this problem unless the system collapses. Americans, from what i've observed in this life, live for the 'now'. People don't want to suck it up for a few years and make significant cuts in our govt spending to save our economy. It seems we think we can go on living like this without anything collapsing. To me, America is no different than a young couple who keep maxing out credit cards with no plan to pay off their debt. They just have an attitude of entitlement to the things they buy. Sooner or later they'll have to declare bankruptcy and their lives will be even harder than if they would've been responsible from day 1. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u anitaoaks4u@... wrote: Come unto me, all ye that labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you Food Stamps and Unemployment Checks. Da King James (soul version), Matthew 11:28, (Special Ebonics translation).
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, martyboi martyboi@... wrote: Your words seem racist and bitter...have you ever been unemployed? MMY: ...the parental role of government, which is to prevent problems for the nation. Does that include abortion?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's New Campaign Slogan...
Capitalism is an inherently unstable system. Or as I've been saying it gives rise to entropy. People here know about the third law of thermodynamics because MMY discussed it a lot. On 02/24/2012 10:06 AM, Emily Reyn wrote: I typed out pieces of this interview before it was posted online by the magazine. I don't read much real economics, but I subscribe to this magazine. Wolff, of course, believes capitalism is a failing system as currently structured. This is the whole interview. http://www.thesunmagazine.org/issues/434/capitalism_and_its_discontents From: seekliberationseekliberat...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 9:21 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's New Campaign Slogan... As much as I don't care for Obama, there's not really much to complain about. What are our choices? The GOP hasn't put out any enlightening choices this time around. No one is contesting Obama for the Democrat nomination. So we're stuck with him another 4 years. Worst of all, whether democrat or republican, each party has increased the deficit for the past 35+ years. So once again, we can't really blame either party for what they are BOTH doing. My personal opinion, although dark and gloomy, is that we're not going to fix this problem unless the system collapses. Americans, from what i've observed in this life, live for the 'now'. People don't want to suck it up for a few years and make significant cuts in our govt spending to save our economy. It seems we think we can go on living like this without anything collapsing. To me, America is no different than a young couple who keep maxing out credit cards with no plan to pay off their debt. They just have an attitude of entitlement to the things they buy. Sooner or later they'll have to declare bankruptcy and their lives will be even harder than if they would've been responsible from day 1. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4uanitaoaks4u@... wrote: Come unto me, all ye that labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you Food Stamps and Unemployment Checks. Da King James (soul version), Matthew 11:28, (Special Ebonics translation).
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's New Campaign Slogan...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: Capitalism is an inherently unstable system. Or as I've been saying it gives rise to entropy. People here know about the third law of thermodynamics because MMY discussed it a lot. Any form of government can work as long as the level of consciousness of the people is adequate MMY (paraphrased). In short, all forms of government can be inadequate until the populace raises its level of consciousness, oh yeah, For the forest to be green all the trees must be green a MMY quote that's a little out of fashion now, unfortunately.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's New Campaign Slogan...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: Capitalism is an inherently unstable system. Or as I've been saying it gives rise to entropy. People here know about the third law of thermodynamics because MMY discussed it a lot. Now that communism is gone the next to go is capatalism - His Divine Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, 1989
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's New Campaign Slogan...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Capitalism is an inherently unstable system. Or as I've been saying it gives rise to entropy. People here know about the third law of thermodynamics because MMY discussed it a lot. Now that communism is gone the next to go is capitalism - His Divine Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, 1989
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's New Campaign Slogan...
On 02/24/2012 11:52 AM, wgm4u wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@... wrote: Capitalism is an inherently unstable system. Or as I've been saying it gives rise to entropy. People here know about the third law of thermodynamics because MMY discussed it a lot. Any form of government can work as long as the level of consciousness of the people is adequate MMY (paraphrased). In short, all forms of government can be inadequate until the populace raises its level of consciousness, oh yeah, For the forest to be green all the trees must be green a MMY quote that's a little out of fashion now, unfortunately. Capitalism is an economic system not a form of government.
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On 02/24/2012 09:21 AM, seekliberation wrote: My personal opinion, although dark and gloomy, is that we're not going to fix this problem unless the system collapses. Americans, from what i've observed in this life, live for the 'now'. People don't want to suck it up for a few years and make significant cuts in our govt spending to save our economy. It seems we think we can go on living like this without anything collapsing. Bingo! And I've been saying this for years. But even my liberal friends want to through a bandage of the problem which is not solving it at all. This tends to be a cycle that occurs about every 80 years. The rich keep tossing bandages on things but if people don't have money they can't buy things and the economy collapses. I hear even Walmart is feeling the pinch. We also have a situation which more and more seems like we a living in some corny medieval story where the king rules everything and his thugs (the military and police) trample the public. It situations like where revolution is inevitable or when people have nothing to lose they lose it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4uanitaoaks4u@... wrote: Come unto me, all ye that labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you Food Stamps and Unemployment Checks. Da King James (soul version), Matthew 11:28, (Special Ebonics translation).
