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Thanks again Judy. Yeah I see what you mean about misinterpreting what the nurse said. Anyway, I'm doing what I can this weekend to strengthen my immune system and keep my sinuses clear. Will make appt with new doc tomorrow. The nice thing about an initial consult is that it allows for a lot of time to ask questions and bring up concerns. Also she went to MIU so is probably pretty aware of alternative modalities. From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2013 12:19 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The science of how child abuse and cult abuse work --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: Hey Judy, thanks for the feedback. Yeah, when the nurse said they give antibiotic just in case it's a bacterial infection that was the final straw. It shouldn't have been. A bacterial infection of the inner ear is the most likely to result in very serious complications, including meningitis. To make sure this is clear: Just in case it's a bacterial infection means Because if your dizziness is being caused by a bacterial infection, we want to knock it out *fast* before any of the serious complications have a chance to develop. We can't take the chance that there's a different cause. You've badly misinterpreted the Just in case, in other words. My guess is that whoever you consult, if they're a reputable medical practitioner, is going to recommend the same treatment. And if you were to take the entire course of amoxicillin and it didn't get rid of the dizziness, it still wouldn't be a reason to get a second opinion. It would just mean, as raunchy pointed out, that the most immediately dangerous cause of your dizziness had been ruled out. Because I know about the development of resistant bacteria The development of resistant bacteria is NOT a reason not to take an antibiotic for an inner ear infection. It IS a reason to finish the prescription even if you're feeling better. and also the killing of good bacteria in gut. This is distinctly possible, which is why you should take something probiotic (such as yogurt with active cultures) while you're taking the antibiotic. You said you didn't like the side effects. What were they? You should have called the doctor and reported them rather than not taking any more of the antibiotic on your own hook. That's something you should leave up to the doctor. The losses seem bigger than the gains. You aren't in a position to judge that, Share. If you were to develop meningitis because you didn't take the amoxicillin long enough to kill the infection, that would be a much bigger loss than diarrhea. Anyway, the dizzyness comes and goes, another reason to question amoxy's effectiveness, Well, no, it's not, not if you didn't take the full course that was prescribed. As I pointed out, you had said the dizziness was improving, but then you stopped taking the amoxicillin. and is unpredictable except for putting my head down. That's sure to bring it on. Unless it gets better this weekend, I'm going to get a second opinion. You might not have needed any additional medical attention if you'd continued to take the antibiotic. Be sure to tell whoever you consult that you took only two doses of the amoxicillin. But by all means get it treated properly, ASAP. An inner ear infection is nothing to fool around with. From: authfriend To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 1, 2013 8:19 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The science of how child abuse and cult abuse work  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: (snip) But the dizzyness just started on Feb 16. Got antibiotic for it. Took 2 doses. Didn't like side effects. It's this kind of ignorant, irresponsible abuse of antibiotics that contributes to the development of bacteria that are *resistant* to antibiotics, which endangers everybody. If the side effects are really intolerable, call your doctor and see if there's a different one that would be just as effective. But earlier you said you stopped taking the amoxicillin because the dizziness had improved. You should never, *ever* take less antibiotic than was prescribed unless your doctor gives the OK. And now your dizziness is worse again because you didn't stick with the regimen, and you'll likely have to take more and maybe even a stronger antibiotic than you would have if you hadn't stopped prematurely, because now you need to kill the bacteria that were strong enough to survive those first two doses of the antibiotic. Here's what you wrote earlier: The dizzyness comes and goes but is definitely less than when it started. Phys asst said inner ear infection and
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Hey Judy, thanks for the feedback. Yeah, when the nurse said they give antibiotic just in case it's a bacterial infection that was the final straw. Because I know about the development of resistant bacteria and also the killing of good bacteria in gut. The losses seem bigger than the gains. Anyway, the dizzyness comes and goes, another reason to question amoxy's effectiveness, and is unpredictable except for putting my head down. That's sure to bring it on. Unless it gets better this weekend, I'm going to get a second opinion. From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 1, 2013 8:19 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The science of how child abuse and cult abuse work --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: (snip) But the dizzyness just started on Feb 16. Got antibiotic for it. Took 2 doses. Didn't like side effects. It's this kind of ignorant, irresponsible abuse of antibiotics that contributes to the development of bacteria that are *resistant* to antibiotics, which endangers everybody. If the side effects are really intolerable, call your doctor and see if there's a different one that would be just as effective. But earlier you said you stopped taking the amoxicillin because the dizziness had improved. You should never, *ever* take less antibiotic than was prescribed unless your doctor gives the OK. And now your dizziness is worse again because you didn't stick with the regimen, and you'll likely have to take more and maybe even a stronger antibiotic than you would have if you hadn't stopped prematurely, because now you need to kill the bacteria that were strong enough to survive those first two doses of the antibiotic. Here's what you wrote earlier: The dizzyness comes and goes but is definitely less than when it started. Phys asst said inner ear infection and prescribed amoxycillan. But I only took 2 doses. No fever, no pain or throbbing and even CDC says antibiotic is ineffective for a viral infection. What exactly are your qualifications for deciding the ear infection is viral rather than bacterial? Especially given that the amoxicillin the physician assistant prescribed *had begun to work*?
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Hey Judy, thanks for the feedback. Yeah, when the nurse said they give antibiotic just in case it's a bacterial infection that was the final straw. Because I know about the development of resistant bacteria and also the killing of good bacteria in gut. The losses seem bigger than the gains. Anyway, the dizzyness comes and goes, another reason to question amoxy's effectiveness, and is unpredictable except for putting my head down. That's sure to bring it on. Unless it gets better this weekend, I'm going to get a second opinion.   If you have side effects, report your symptoms to your doctor to determine if your symptoms are life threatening or benign. Amoxycillan Is for bacterial infection, which your doctor could have ruled out had you completed the treatment. Always consult with your doctor before discontinuing a medication. Get well soon. From: authfriend authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 1, 2013 8:19 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The science of how child abuse and cult abuse work  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: (snip) But the dizzyness just started on Feb 16. Got antibiotic for it. Took 2 doses. Didn't like side effects. It's this kind of ignorant, irresponsible abuse of antibiotics that contributes to the development of bacteria that are *resistant* to antibiotics, which endangers everybody. If the side effects are really intolerable, call your doctor and see if there's a different one that would be just as effective. But earlier you said you stopped taking the amoxicillin because the dizziness had improved. You should never, *ever* take less antibiotic than was prescribed unless your doctor gives the OK. And now your dizziness is worse again because you didn't stick with the regimen, and you'll likely have to take more and maybe even a stronger antibiotic than you would have if you hadn't stopped prematurely, because now you need to kill the bacteria that were strong enough to survive those first two doses of the antibiotic. Here's what you wrote earlier: The dizzyness comes and goes but is definitely less than when it started. Phys asst said inner ear infection and prescribed amoxycillan. But I only took 2 doses. No fever, no pain or throbbing and even CDC says antibiotic is ineffective for a viral infection. What exactly are your qualifications for deciding the ear infection is viral rather than bacterial? Especially given that the amoxicillin the physician assistant prescribed *had begun to work*?
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thanks RD, hope you all are well and happy. From our mutual friend I've heard good things about Dr. Karynova and am thinking to get my second opinion from her. From: raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2013 10:39 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The science of how child abuse and cult abuse work --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: Hey Judy, thanks for the feedback. Yeah, when the nurse said they give antibiotic just in case it's a bacterial infection that was the final straw. Because I know about the development of resistant bacteria and also the killing of good bacteria in gut. The losses seem bigger than the gains. Anyway, the dizzyness comes and goes, another reason to question amoxy's effectiveness, and is unpredictable except for putting my head down. That's sure to bring it on. Unless it gets better this weekend, I'm going to get a second opinion.   If you have side effects, report your symptoms to your doctor to determine if your symptoms are life threatening or benign. Amoxycillan Is for bacterial infection, which your doctor could have ruled out had you completed the treatment. Always consult with your doctor before discontinuing a medication. Get well soon. From: authfriend To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 1, 2013 8:19 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The science of how child abuse and cult abuse work  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: (snip) But the dizzyness just started on Feb 16. Got antibiotic for it. Took 2 doses. Didn't like side effects. It's this kind of ignorant, irresponsible abuse of antibiotics that contributes to the development of bacteria that are *resistant* to antibiotics, which endangers everybody. If the side effects are really intolerable, call your doctor and see if there's a different one that would be just as effective. But earlier you said you stopped taking the amoxicillin because the dizziness had improved. You should never, *ever* take less antibiotic than was prescribed unless your doctor gives the OK. And now your dizziness is worse again because you didn't stick with the regimen, and you'll likely have to take more and maybe even a stronger antibiotic than you would have if you hadn't stopped prematurely, because now you need to kill the bacteria that were strong enough to survive those first two doses of the antibiotic. Here's what you wrote earlier: The dizzyness comes and goes but is definitely less than when it started. Phys asst said inner ear infection and prescribed amoxycillan. But I only took 2 doses. No fever, no pain or throbbing and even CDC says antibiotic is ineffective for a viral infection. What exactly are your qualifications for deciding the ear infection is viral rather than bacterial? Especially given that the amoxicillin the physician assistant prescribed *had begun to work*?
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Hey Judy, thanks for the feedback. Yeah, when the nurse said they give antibiotic just in case it's a bacterial infection that was the final straw. It shouldn't have been. A bacterial infection of the inner ear is the most likely to result in very serious complications, including meningitis. Because I know about the development of resistant bacteria The development of resistant bacteria is NOT a reason not to take an antibiotic for an inner ear infection. It IS a reason to finish the prescription even if you're feeling better. and also the killing of good bacteria in gut. This is distinctly possible, which is why you should take something probiotic (such as yogurt with active cultures) while you're taking the antibiotic. You said you didn't like the side effects. What were they? You should have called the doctor and reported them rather than not taking any more of the antibiotic on your own hook. That's something you should leave up to the doctor. The losses seem bigger than the gains. You aren't in a position to judge that, Share. If you were to develop meningitis because you didn't take the amoxicillin long enough to kill the infection, that would be a much bigger loss than diarrhea. Anyway, the dizzyness comes and goes, another reason to question amoxy's effectiveness, Well, no, it's not, not if you didn't take the full course that was prescribed. As I pointed out, you had said the dizziness was improving, but then you stopped taking the amoxicillin. and is unpredictable except for putting my head down. That's sure to bring it on. Unless it gets better this weekend, I'm going to get a second opinion. You might not have needed any additional medical attention if you'd continued to take the antibiotic. Be sure to tell whoever you consult that you took only two doses of the amoxicillin. But by all means get it treated properly, ASAP. An inner ear infection is nothing to fool around with. From: authfriend authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 1, 2013 8:19 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The science of how child abuse and cult abuse work  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: (snip) But the dizzyness just started on Feb 16. Got antibiotic for it. Took 2 doses. Didn't like side effects. It's this kind of ignorant, irresponsible abuse of antibiotics that contributes to the development of bacteria that are *resistant* to antibiotics, which endangers everybody. If the side effects are really intolerable, call your doctor and see if there's a different one that would be just as effective. But earlier you said you stopped taking the amoxicillin because the dizziness had improved. You should never, *ever* take less antibiotic than was prescribed unless your doctor gives the OK. And now your dizziness is worse again because you didn't stick with the regimen, and you'll likely have to take more and maybe even a stronger antibiotic than you would have if you hadn't stopped prematurely, because now you need to kill the bacteria that were strong enough to survive those first two doses of the antibiotic. Here's what you wrote earlier: The dizzyness comes and goes but is definitely less than when it started. Phys asst said inner ear infection and prescribed amoxycillan. But I only took 2 doses. No fever, no pain or throbbing and even CDC says antibiotic is ineffective for a viral infection. What exactly are your qualifications for deciding the ear infection is viral rather than bacterial? Especially given that the amoxicillin the physician assistant prescribed *had begun to work*?
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Hey Judy, thanks for the feedback. Yeah, when the nurse said they give antibiotic just in case it's a bacterial infection that was the final straw. It shouldn't have been. A bacterial infection of the inner ear is the most likely to result in very serious complications, including meningitis. To make sure this is clear: Just in case it's a bacterial infection means Because if your dizziness is being caused by a bacterial infection, we want to knock it out *fast* before any of the serious complications have a chance to develop. We can't take the chance that there's a different cause. You've badly misinterpreted the Just in case, in other words. My guess is that whoever you consult, if they're a reputable medical practitioner, is going to recommend the same treatment. And if you were to take the entire course of amoxicillin and it didn't get rid of the dizziness, it still wouldn't be a reason to get a second opinion. It would just mean, as raunchy pointed out, that the most immediately dangerous cause of your dizziness had been ruled out. Because I know about the development of resistant bacteria The development of resistant bacteria is NOT a reason not to take an antibiotic for an inner ear infection. It IS a reason to finish the prescription even if you're feeling better. and also the killing of good bacteria in gut. This is distinctly possible, which is why you should take something probiotic (such as yogurt with active cultures) while you're taking the antibiotic. You said you didn't like the side effects. What were they? You should have called the doctor and reported them rather than not taking any more of the antibiotic on your own hook. That's something you should leave up to the doctor. The losses seem bigger than the gains. You aren't in a position to judge that, Share. If you were to develop meningitis because you didn't take the amoxicillin long enough to kill the infection, that would be a much bigger loss than diarrhea. Anyway, the dizzyness comes and goes, another reason to question amoxy's effectiveness, Well, no, it's not, not if you didn't take the full course that was prescribed. As I pointed out, you had said the dizziness was improving, but then you stopped taking the amoxicillin. and is unpredictable except for putting my head down. That's sure to bring it on. Unless it gets better this weekend, I'm going to get a second opinion. You might not have needed any additional medical attention if you'd continued to take the antibiotic. Be sure to tell whoever you consult that you took only two doses of the amoxicillin. But by all means get it treated properly, ASAP. An inner ear infection is nothing to fool around with. From: authfriend authfriend@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 1, 2013 8:19 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The science of how child abuse and cult abuse work  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: (snip) But the dizzyness just started on Feb 16. Got antibiotic for it. Took 2 doses. Didn't like side effects. It's this kind of ignorant, irresponsible abuse of antibiotics that contributes to the development of bacteria that are *resistant* to antibiotics, which endangers everybody. If the side effects are really intolerable, call your doctor and see if there's a different one that would be just as effective. But earlier you said you stopped taking the amoxicillin because the dizziness had improved. You should never, *ever* take less antibiotic than was prescribed unless your doctor gives the OK. And now your dizziness is worse again because you didn't stick with the regimen, and you'll likely have to take more and maybe even a stronger antibiotic than you would have if you hadn't stopped prematurely, because now you need to kill the bacteria that were strong enough to survive those first two doses of the antibiotic. Here's what you wrote earlier: The dizzyness comes and goes but is definitely less than when it started. Phys asst said inner ear infection and prescribed amoxycillan. But I only took 2 doses. No fever, no pain or throbbing and even CDC says antibiotic is ineffective for a viral infection. What exactly are your qualifications for deciding the ear infection is viral rather than bacterial? Especially given that the amoxicillin the physician assistant prescribed *had begun to work*?
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turq is already under the care of 2 top notch healers, Pippin and Paris. Besides I wouldn't want to descend to heretofore unexplored levels of spammishness (-: From: Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 7:31 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The science of how child abuse and cult abuse work --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: It could have been worse, interpreted as pleasure. http://psychcentral.com/news/2013/02/27/pain-can-turn-to-pleasure-if-less-intense-than-expected/52004.html To explain my thinking here, for those who never became TM teachers or, for that matter, never met Maharishi or got close enough to the TMO to figure out how things worked, here's the connection I see between this research and the way things work in cults. First, the connection to child abuse/spousal abuse: Wow, that wasn't so bad. He only gave me a black eye and broke my wrist. I was expecting him to kill me this time. Guess my life isn't so bad after all. And in cult environments, see if any of these scenarios sound at all familiar: Wow, when Maharishi called that meeting to tell us that the world was on the edge of total destruction, I thought that it really was the end of the world. But then he explained that everything would be all right if I just contributed more money to the pundit project and bounced on my butt twice a day as I'm supposed to. Wow, when Maharishi called that meeting about what it takes to still be considered a TM teacher, I thought it was game over, man, and that I'd be excommunicated and cut off from the Highest Path for the rest of this life, and all subse- quent lives. Whew...all I have to do to still be part of the highest teaching is to give up my job, pay the same amount of money I originally paid to become a TM teacher all over again, and commit to teaching TM full time for the rest of my life. What a relief. Wow, when those folks at the dome told me that I was persona non grata and that they couldn't give me a dome badge because I'd seen Saint Blissananda a few years ago, I thought that was the end of it all for me. But then they explained that if I just publicly repented of my sins and promised never to do anything as stupid as think for myself again I could still be one of the Most Important People On Earth. Whew. Whew. I thought that Maharishi was going to blame US for the state of the world, as he's done so many times before. But thank the gods, it's really the fault of those low-vibe people in Scorpion Nation. Come ON someone, react please. Barry has just tried to push all the buttons he could find to get somebody to pay attention to him. I'm not interested enough in this subject to react but I have done my part by at least acknowledging his post. Anyone? Maybe Share can provide Barry an endless list of healers so he can spend the rest of his life trying to heal the tremendous trauma inflicted on him by the TMO, all those decades ago. Such a burden carrying that around, crying out in pain on any Internet forum where people will listen. Let the healing begin!
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dear Steve and Buck, so sorry, still having lots of dizzyness, maybe cognitive functions being affected. IOW, WTF are you two guys talking about?! Steve, am I being dense about the Ben Hur chariot scene? I realize it's no fun to explain a joke but these posts from you and Buck are sailing right over my spinning noggin. Thank you both for any and all mercy shown to Ms. Vertigo here (-: From: Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 1, 2013 12:51 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The science of how child abuse and cult abuse work --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: It could have been worse, interpreted as pleasure. Towards thee I row, thou all-destroying but unconquering whale; to the last I grapple with thee; from hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee. Sink all coffins and all hearses to one common pool! and since neither can be mine, let me then tow to pieces, while still chasing thee, though tied to thee, thou damned whale! Thus, I give up the spear! Do you presume to criticize the Great Oz? Om, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWyCCJ6B2WE http://psychcentral.com/news/2013/02/27/pain-can-turn-to-pleasure-if-less-intense-than-expected/52004.html
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: dear Steve and Buck, so sorry, still having lots of dizzyness, maybe cognitive functions being affected. IOW, WTF are you two guys talking about?! Steve, am I being dense about the Ben Hur chariot scene? I realize it's no fun to explain a joke but these posts from you and Buck are sailing right over my spinning noggin. Thank you both for any and all mercy shown to Ms. Vertigo here (-: Share, have you not seen the final scene in the 2011 making of Mobey Dick? The one where the whale is rotating and you see Ahab strapped and tethered to the whale underwater? Looks lot like Bevan strapped to the TM movement. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKKlA1rtzQ8 From: Buck To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 1, 2013 12:51 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The science of how child abuse and cult abuse work  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: It could have been worse, interpreted as pleasure. Towards thee I row, thou all-destroying but unconquering whale; to the last I grapple with thee; from hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee. Sink all coffins and all hearses to one common pool! and since neither can be mine, let me then tow to pieces, while still chasing thee, though tied to thee, thou damned whale! Thus, I give up the spear! Do you presume to criticize the Great Oz? Om, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWyCCJ6B2WE http://psychcentral.com/news/2013/02/27/pain-can-turn-to-pleasure-if-less-intense-than-expected/52004.html
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: dear Steve and Buck, so sorry, still having lots of dizzyness, maybe cognitive functions being affected. IOW, WTF are you two guys talking about?! Steve, am I being dense about the Ben Hur chariot scene? I realize it's no fun to explain a joke but these posts from you and Buck are sailing right over my spinning noggin. Thank you both for any and all mercy shown to Ms. Vertigo here (-: Share, have you not seen the final scene in the 2011 making of Moby Dick? The one where the whale is rotating and you see Ahab strapped and tethered to the whale underwater? Looks lot like Bevan strapped to the TM movement. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKKlA1rtzQ8 From: Buck To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 1, 2013 12:51 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The science of how child abuse and cult abuse work  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: It could have been worse, interpreted as pleasure. Towards thee I row, thou all-destroying but unconquering whale; to the last I grapple with thee; from hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee. Sink all coffins and all hearses to one common pool! and since neither can be mine, let me then tow to pieces, while still chasing thee, though tied to thee, thou damned whale! Thus, I give up the spear! Do you presume to criticize the Great Oz? Om, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWyCCJ6B2WE http://psychcentral.com/news/2013/02/27/pain-can-turn-to-pleasure-if-less-intense-than-expected/52004.html
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Makes no sense at all. I just liked the phrase, Let the healing begin, and that is what came to mind. I guess that happens when you are tired. To be more more contemporary. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dEqVy66HW8 Don't know what my excuse is for this one. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: dear Steve and Buck, so sorry, still having lots of dizzyness, maybe cognitive functions being affected. IOW, WTF are you two guys talking about?! Steve, am I being dense about the Ben Hur chariot scene? I realize it's no fun to explain a joke but these posts from you and Buck are sailing right over my spinning noggin. Thank you both for any and all mercy shown to Ms. Vertigo here (-: From: Buck dhamiltony2k5@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 1, 2013 12:51 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The science of how child abuse and cult abuse work  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: It could have been worse, interpreted as pleasure. Towards thee I row, thou all-destroying but unconquering whale; to the last I grapple with thee; from hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee. Sink all coffins and all hearses to one common pool! and since neither can be mine, let me then tow to pieces, while still chasing thee, though tied to thee, thou damned whale! Thus, I give up the spear! Do you presume to criticize the Great Oz? Om, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWyCCJ6B2WE http://psychcentral.com/news/2013/02/27/pain-can-turn-to-pleasure-if-less-intense-than-expected/52004.html
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: dear Steve and Buck, so sorry, still having lots of dizzyness, maybe cognitive functions being affected. IOW, WTF are you two guys talking about?! Steve, am I being dense about the Ben Hur chariot scene? I realize it's no fun to explain a joke but these posts from you and Buck are sailing right over my spinning noggin. Thank you both for any and all mercy shown to Ms. Vertigo here (-: Share, have you not seen the final scene in the 2011 making of Moby Dick? The one where the whale is rotating and you see Ahab strapped and tethered to the whale underwater? Looks lot like Bevan strapped to the TM movement. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKKlA1rtzQ8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKKlA1rtzQ8 Now you've got to explain a joke to me. Which is supposed to be which? Is Bevan supposed to be Ahab, or Moby Dick? Seems to me he's more great white whale-like than the TMO these days. :-) [https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/69670_5881253845\ 50252_1439624177_n.jpg] From: Buck To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 1, 2013 12:51 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The science of how child abuse and cult abuse work --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: It could have been worse, interpreted as pleasure. Towards thee I row, thou all-destroying but unconquering whale; to the last I grapple with thee; from hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee. Sink all coffins and all hearses to one common pool! and since neither can be mine, let me then tow to pieces, while still chasing thee, though tied to thee, thou damned whale! Thus, I give up the spear! Do you presume to criticize the Great Oz? Om, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWyCCJ6B2WE http://psychcentral.com/news/2013/02/27/pain-can-turn-to-pleasure-if-les\ s-intense-than-expected/52004.html http://psychcentral.com/news/2013/02/27/pain-can-turn-to-pleasure-if-le\ ss-intense-than-expected/52004.html
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oh BTW your non-contemporary-coming-to-mind-link has his voyeuristic-ally' moments, too - AT about 0:25 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=La70eV1mTe0#t=2\ 5s http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=La70eV1mTe0#t=\ 25s -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: Makes no sense at all. I just liked the phrase, Let the healing begin, and that is what came to mind. I guess that happens when you are tired. To be more more contemporary. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dEqVy66HW8 Don't know what my excuse is for this one. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: dear Steve and Buck, so sorry, still having lots of dizzyness, maybe cognitive functions being affected. IOW, WTF are you two guys talking about?! Steve, am I being dense about the Ben Hur chariot scene? I realize it's no fun to explain a joke but these posts from you and Buck are sailing right over my spinning noggin. Thank you both for any and all mercy shown to Ms. Vertigo here (-: From: Buck dhamiltony2k5@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 1, 2013 12:51 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The science of how child abuse and cult abuse work  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: It could have been worse, interpreted as pleasure. Towards thee I row, thou all-destroying but unconquering whale; to the last I grapple with thee; from hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee. Sink all coffins and all hearses to one common pool! and since neither can be mine, let me then tow to pieces, while still chasing thee, though tied to thee, thou damned whale! Thus, I give up the spear! Do you presume to criticize the Great Oz? Om, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWyCCJ6B2WE http://psychcentral.com/news/2013/02/27/pain-can-turn-to-pleasure-if-les\ s-intense-than-expected/52004.html
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: dear Steve and Buck, so sorry, still having lots of dizzyness, maybe cognitive functions being affected. IOW, WTF are you two guys talking about?! Steve, am I being dense about the Ben Hur chariot scene? I realize it's no fun to explain a joke but these posts from you and Buck are sailing right over my spinning noggin. Thank you both for any and all mercy shown to Ms. Vertigo here (-: Share, have you not seen the final scene in the 2011 making of Moby Dick? The one where the whale is rotating and you see Ahab strapped and tethered to the whale underwater? Looks lot like Bevan strapped to the TM movement. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKKlA1rtzQ8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKKlA1rtzQ8 Now you've got to explain a joke to me. Which is supposed to be which? Is Bevan supposed to be Ahab, or Moby Dick? Well, metaphorically it could be worked either way. I would be afraid to say which. Seems to me he's more great white whale-like than the TMO these days. :-) [https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/69670_5881253845\ 50252_1439624177_n.jpg] From: Buck To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 1, 2013 12:51 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The science of how child abuse and cult abuse work --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: It could have been worse, interpreted as pleasure. Towards thee I row, thou all-destroying but unconquering whale; to the last I grapple with thee; from hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee. Sink all coffins and all hearses to one common pool! and since neither can be mine, let me then tow to pieces, while still chasing thee, though tied to thee, thou damned whale! Thus, I give up the spear! Do you presume to criticize the Great Oz? Om, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWyCCJ6B2WE http://psychcentral.com/news/2013/02/27/pain-can-turn-to-pleasure-if-les\ s-intense-than-expected/52004.html http://psychcentral.com/news/2013/02/27/pain-can-turn-to-pleasure-if-le\ ss-intense-than-expected/52004.html
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Dear Turq, shipmate. Enough! It is wholly time now that you re-set your course in life. Look it, we know you put this stuff about cults here to antagonize the good meditators here who have long set about an honest mission with a goodwill. Just because we are unified with purpose does not in itself make our group a cult or cult like. Now thanks to the revolution in social media You, your carping kind, but the fourth estate also have made us even a better people as we are in fact much more transparent in process now than we have ever been. We are a movement made new since the recent death of our Maharishi and you should come back to us, help fulfill all that is good in the world along with us. You well owe this to your family, your partner, and your friends. Don't be bound longer by your past. If the large body of evidenceaccepted and published by mainstream scientific journalsis accurate, groups in peace-creating meditation can dramatically reduce violent crime, terrorism, and war. We owe peace our duty iit is all our destiny together. You once swore your allegiance to this, come back now in alliance and help support the work once again. Come back to meditation in dignity again with us. http://invincibleamerica.org/applications.html What do you say man, will you do it? Let us get along together again in peace, - Ahab Captain In the Dome --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: dear Steve and Buck, so sorry, still having lots of dizzyness, maybe cognitive functions being affected. IOW, WTF are you two guys talking about?! Steve, am I being dense about the Ben Hur chariot scene? I realize it's no fun to explain a joke but these posts from you and Buck are sailing right over my spinning noggin. Thank you both for any and all mercy shown to Ms. Vertigo here (-: Share, have you not seen the final scene in the 2011 making of Moby Dick? The one where the whale is rotating and you see Ahab strapped and tethered to the whale underwater? Looks lot like Bevan strapped to the TM movement. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKKlA1rtzQ8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKKlA1rtzQ8 Now you've got to explain a joke to me. Which is supposed to be which? Is Bevan supposed to be Ahab, or Moby Dick? Well, metaphorically it could be worked either way. I would be afraid to say which. Seems to me he's more great white whale-like than the TMO these days. :-) [https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/69670_5881253845\ 50252_1439624177_n.jpg] From: Buck To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 1, 2013 12:51 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The science of how child abuse and cult abuse work --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: It could have been worse, interpreted as pleasure. Towards thee I row, thou all-destroying but unconquering whale; to the last I grapple with thee; from hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee. Sink all coffins and all hearses to one common pool! and since neither can be mine, let me then tow to pieces, while still chasing thee, though tied to thee, thou damned whale! Thus, I give up the spear! Do you presume to criticize the Great Oz? Om, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWyCCJ6B2WE http://psychcentral.com/news/2013/02/27/pain-can-turn-to-pleasure-if-les\ s-intense-than-expected/52004.html http://psychcentral.com/news/2013/02/27/pain-can-turn-to-pleasure-if-le\ ss-intense-than-expected/52004.html
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dear Buck, I vaguely remember that last scene of spinning Moby. Maybe I should watch it now as a homeopathic remedy. You know, use dizzyness to remove dizzyness. Anyway, I liked your appeal to turq. Anything is possible, right? PS Someday when we bump into each other at the health food store, I will buy you a Pecan Pie Larabar and my karmic debt to you will have been paid in full (-: From: Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 1, 2013 7:11 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The science of how child abuse and cult abuse work --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: dear Steve and Buck, so sorry, still having lots of dizzyness, maybe cognitive functions being affected. IOW, WTF are you two guys talking about?! Steve, am I being dense about the Ben Hur chariot scene? I realize it's no fun to explain a joke but these posts from you and Buck are sailing right over my spinning noggin. Thank you both for any and all mercy shown to Ms. Vertigo here (-: Share, have you not seen the final scene in the 2011 making of Mobey Dick? The one where the whale is rotating and you see Ahab strapped and tethered to the whale underwater? From: Buck To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 1, 2013 12:51 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The science of how child abuse and cult abuse work  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: It could have been worse, interpreted as pleasure. Towards thee I row, thou all-destroying but unconquering whale; to the last I grapple with thee; from hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee. Sink all coffins and all hearses to one common pool! and since neither can be mine, let me then tow to pieces, while still chasing thee, though tied to thee, thou damned whale! Thus, I give up the spear! Do you presume to criticize the Great Oz? Om, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWyCCJ6B2WE http://psychcentral.com/news/2013/02/27/pain-can-turn-to-pleasure-if-less-intense-than-expected/52004.html
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: dear Buck, I vaguely remember that last scene of spinning Moby. Maybe I should watch it now as a homeopathic remedy. You know, use dizzyness to remove dizzyness. Anyway, I liked your appeal to turq. Anything is possible, right? PS Someday when we bump into each other at the health food store, I will buy you a Pecan Pie Larabar and my karmic debt to you will have been paid in full (-: Unless you have ringing in your ears you don't have tinnitus. It is very typical to get inner ear conditions that happen in conjunction with colds or flu, fluid build up, neat stuff like that. It can cause the equilibrium issues and can last for some weeks. Of course, if it was me I would immediately figure I had a brain tumour...luckily most people are not so Woody Allenish as I am when it comes to health issues. From: Buck dhamiltony2k5@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 1, 2013 7:11 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The science of how child abuse and cult abuse work  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: dear Steve and Buck, so sorry, still having lots of dizzyness, maybe cognitive functions being affected.àIOW, WTF are you two guys talking about?!àSteve, am I being dense about the Ben Hur chariot scene?àI realize it's no fun to explain a joke but these posts from you and Buck are sailing right over my spinning noggin.àThank you both for any and all mercy shown to Ms. Vertigo here (-: Share, have you not seen the final scene in the 2011 making of Mobey Dick? The one where the whale is rotating and you see Ahab strapped and tethered to the whale underwater? From: Buck To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 1, 2013 12:51 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The science of how child abuse and cult abuse work à--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: It could have been worse, interpreted as pleasure. Towards thee I row, thou all-destroying but unconquering whale; to the last I grapple with thee; from hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee. Sink all coffins and all hearses to one common pool! and since neither can be mine, let me then tow to pieces, while still chasing thee, though tied to thee, thou damned whale! Thus, I give up the spear! Do you presume to criticize the Great Oz? Om, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWyCCJ6B2WE http://psychcentral.com/news/2013/02/27/pain-can-turn-to-pleasure-if-less-intense-than-expected/52004.html
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I have both! I've had tinnitus for years. But the dizzyness just started on Feb 16. Got antibiotic for it. Took 2 doses. Didn't like side effects. Seem to be adapting to dizzyness by listing to port when I walk. Other symptoms are gone. May get second opinion. Supposedly good jyotish time for second opinions of doctors. Not making that up. I'm laughing because just today I was telling a friend that when they first arise, I think every little pain or ailment I have is gonna be the one that kills me. So even though my writing group tells me I have a good sense of humor, I know it can get pushed to the back burner when I'm worried about my health. Especially when I can't figure out what to do. I do a lot of Release Technique on fear of dying. It helps. And then it's easy to be brave about everything else. Like FFL (-: From: Ann awoelfleba...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 1, 2013 3:42 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The science of how child abuse and cult abuse work --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: dear Buck, I vaguely remember that last scene of spinning Moby. Maybe I should watch it now as a homeopathic remedy. You know, use dizzyness to remove dizzyness. Anyway, I liked your appeal to turq. Anything is possible, right? PS Someday when we bump into each other at the health food store, I will buy you a Pecan Pie Larabar and my karmic debt to you will have been paid in full (-: Unless you have ringing in your ears you don't have tinnitus. It is very typical to get inner ear conditions that happen in conjunction with colds or flu, fluid build up, neat stuff like that. It can cause the equilibrium issues and can last for some weeks. Of course, if it was me I would immediately figure I had a brain tumour...luckily most people are not so Woody Allenish as I am when it comes to health issues. From: Buck To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 1, 2013 7:11 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The science of how child abuse and cult abuse work  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: dear Steve and Buck, so sorry, still having lots of dizzyness, maybe cognitive functions being affected. IOW, WTF are you two guys talking about?! Steve, am I being dense about the Ben Hur chariot scene? I realize it's no fun to explain a joke but these posts from you and Buck are sailing right over my spinning noggin. Thank you both for any and all mercy shown to Ms. Vertigo here (-: Share, have you not seen the final scene in the 2011 making of Mobey Dick? The one where the whale is rotating and you see Ahab strapped and tethered to the whale underwater? From: Buck To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 1, 2013 12:51 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The science of how child abuse and cult abuse work  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: It could have been worse, interpreted as pleasure. Towards thee I row, thou all-destroying but unconquering whale; to the last I grapple with thee; from hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee. Sink all coffins and all hearses to one common pool! and since neither can be mine, let me then tow to pieces, while still chasing thee, though tied to thee, thou damned whale! Thus, I give up the spear! Do you presume to criticize the Great Oz? Om, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWyCCJ6B2WE http://psychcentral.com/news/2013/02/27/pain-can-turn-to-pleasure-if-less-intense-than-expected/52004.html
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On 03/01/2013 01:42 PM, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: dear Buck, I vaguely remember that last scene of spinning Moby. Maybe I should watch it now as a homeopathic remedy. You know, use dizzyness to remove dizzyness. Anyway, I liked your appeal to turq. Anything is possible, right? PS Someday when we bump into each other at the health food store, I will buy you a Pecan Pie Larabar and my karmic debt to you will have been paid in full (-: Unless you have ringing in your ears you don't have tinnitus. It is very typical to get inner ear conditions that happen in conjunction with colds or flu, fluid build up, neat stuff like that. It can cause the equilibrium issues and can last for some weeks. Of course, if it was me I would immediately figure I had a brain tumour...luckily most people are not so Woody Allenish as I am when it comes to health issues. You're lucky being in Canada since it probably wouldn't cost much or nothing at all. Here a doctor will decide to put your through several thousand dollars of tests, MRI, etc just to wind up telling you to live with it.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: (snip) But the dizzyness just started on Feb 16. Got antibiotic for it. Took 2 doses. Didn't like side effects. It's this kind of ignorant, irresponsible abuse of antibiotics that contributes to the development of bacteria that are *resistant* to antibiotics, which endangers everybody. If the side effects are really intolerable, call your doctor and see if there's a different one that would be just as effective. But earlier you said you stopped taking the amoxicillin because the dizziness had improved. You should never, *ever* take less antibiotic than was prescribed unless your doctor gives the OK. And now your dizziness is worse again because you didn't stick with the regimen, and you'll likely have to take more and maybe even a stronger antibiotic than you would have if you hadn't stopped prematurely, because now you need to kill the bacteria that were strong enough to survive those first two doses of the antibiotic. Here's what you wrote earlier: The dizzyness comes and goes but is definitely less than when it started. Phys asst said inner ear infection and prescribed amoxycillan. But I only took 2 doses. No fever, no pain or throbbing and even CDC says antibiotic is ineffective for a viral infection. What exactly are your qualifications for deciding the ear infection is viral rather than bacterial? Especially given that the amoxicillin the physician assistant prescribed *had begun to work*?
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Brothers and Sisters, I am terribly sorry but it seems the truth was stretched in this very post recently published here below of Ahab. I was really hoping but do not know in fact if their process is more transparent now. Therefore, please disregard everything that flowed from that point on. For accuracy's sake we must take some of that post back. -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Dear Turq, shipmate. Enough! It is wholly time now that you re-set your course in life. Look it, we know you put this stuff about cults here to antagonize the good meditators here who have long set about an honest mission with a goodwill. Just because we are unified with purpose does not in itself make our group a cult or cult like. Now thanks to the revolution in social media You, your carping kind, but the fourth estate also have made us even a better people as we are in fact much more transparent in process now than we have ever been. We are a movement made new since the recent death of our Maharishi and you should come back to us, help fulfill all that is good in the world along with us. You well owe this to your family, your partner, and your friends. Don't be bound longer by your past. If the large body of evidenceaccepted and published by mainstream scientific journalsis accurate, groups in peace-creating meditation can dramatically reduce violent crime, terrorism, and war. We owe peace our duty, it is all our destiny together. You once swore your allegiance to this, come back now in alliance and help support the work once again. Come back to meditation in dignity again with us. http://invincibleamerica.org/applications.html What do you say man, will you do it? Let us get along together again in peace, - Ahab Captain In the Dome --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: dear Steve and Buck, so sorry, still having lots of dizzyness, maybe cognitive functions being affected. IOW, WTF are you two guys talking about?! Steve, am I being dense about the Ben Hur chariot scene? I realize it's no fun to explain a joke but these posts from you and Buck are sailing right over my spinning noggin. Thank you both for any and all mercy shown to Ms. Vertigo here (-: Share, have you not seen the final scene in the 2011 making of Moby Dick? The one where the whale is rotating and you see Ahab strapped and tethered to the whale underwater? Looks lot like Bevan strapped to the TM movement. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKKlA1rtzQ8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKKlA1rtzQ8 Now you've got to explain a joke to me. Which is supposed to be which? Is Bevan supposed to be Ahab, or Moby Dick? Well, metaphorically it could be worked either way. I would be afraid to say which. Seems to me he's more great white whale-like than the TMO these days. :-) [https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/69670_5881253845\ 50252_1439624177_n.jpg] From: Buck To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 1, 2013 12:51 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The science of how child abuse and cult abuse work --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: It could have been worse, interpreted as pleasure. Towards thee I row, thou all-destroying but unconquering whale; to the last I grapple with thee; from hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee. Sink all coffins and all hearses to one common pool! and since neither can be mine, let me then tow to pieces, while still chasing thee, though tied to thee, thou damned whale! Thus, I give up the spear! Do you presume to criticize the Great Oz? Om, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWyCCJ6B2WE http://psychcentral.com/news/2013/02/27/pain-can-turn-to-pleasure-if-les\ s-intense-than-expected/52004.html http://psychcentral.com/news/2013/02/27/pain-can-turn-to-pleasure-if-le\ ss-intense-than-expected/52004.html
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 03/01/2013 01:42 PM, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: dear Buck, I vaguely remember that last scene of spinning Moby. Maybe I should watch it now as a homeopathic remedy. You know, use dizzyness to remove dizzyness. Anyway, I liked your appeal to turq. Anything is possible, right? PS Someday when we bump into each other at the health food store, I will buy you a Pecan Pie Larabar and my karmic debt to you will have been paid in full (-: Unless you have ringing in your ears you don't have tinnitus. It is very typical to get inner ear conditions that happen in conjunction with colds or flu, fluid build up, neat stuff like that. It can cause the equilibrium issues and can last for some weeks. Of course, if it was me I would immediately figure I had a brain tumour...luckily most people are not so Woody Allenish as I am when it comes to health issues. You're lucky being in Canada since it probably wouldn't cost much or nothing at all. Here a doctor will decide to put your through several thousand dollars of tests, MRI, etc just to wind up telling you to live with it. Yup, pretty much free, or at least no payment is required for tests or treatment. But we all pay, one way or another.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: It could have been worse, interpreted as pleasure. http://psychcentral.com/news/2013/02/27/pain-can-turn-to-pleasure-if-less-intense-than-expected/52004.html To explain my thinking here, for those who never became TM teachers or, for that matter, never met Maharishi or got close enough to the TMO to figure out how things worked, here's the connection I see between this research and the way things work in cults. First, the connection to child abuse/spousal abuse: Wow, that wasn't so bad. He only gave me a black eye and broke my wrist. I was expecting him to kill me this time. Guess my life isn't so bad after all. And in cult environments, see if any of these scenarios sound at all familiar: Wow, when Maharishi called that meeting to tell us that the world was on the edge of total destruction, I thought that it really was the end of the world. But then he explained that everything would be all right if I just contributed more money to the pundit project and bounced on my butt twice a day as I'm supposed to. Wow, when Maharishi called that meeting about what it takes to still be considered a TM teacher, I thought it was game over, man, and that I'd be excommunicated and cut off from the Highest Path for the rest of this life, and all subse- quent lives. Whew...all I have to do to still be part of the highest teaching is to give up my job, pay the same amount of money I originally paid to become a TM teacher all over again, and commit to teaching TM full time for the rest of my life. What a relief. Wow, when those folks at the dome told me that I was persona non grata and that they couldn't give me a dome badge because I'd seen Saint Blissananda a few years ago, I thought that was the end of it all for me. But then they explained that if I just publicly repented of my sins and promised never to do anything as stupid as think for myself again I could still be one of the Most Important People On Earth. Whew. Whew. I thought that Maharishi was going to blame US for the state of the world, as he's done so many times before. But thank the gods, it's really the fault of those low-vibe people in Scorpion Nation.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The science of how child abuse and cult abuse work
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: It could have been worse, interpreted as pleasure. http://psychcentral.com/news/2013/02/27/pain-can-turn-to-pleasure-if-less-intense-than-expected/52004.html To explain my thinking here, for those who never became TM teachers or, for that matter, never met Maharishi or got close enough to the TMO to figure out how things worked, here's the connection I see between this research and the way things work in cults. First, the connection to child abuse/spousal abuse: Wow, that wasn't so bad. He only gave me a black eye and broke my wrist. I was expecting him to kill me this time. Guess my life isn't so bad after all. And in cult environments, see if any of these scenarios sound at all familiar: Wow, when Maharishi called that meeting to tell us that the world was on the edge of total destruction, I thought that it really was the end of the world. But then he explained that everything would be all right if I just contributed more money to the pundit project and bounced on my butt twice a day as I'm supposed to. Wow, when Maharishi called that meeting about what it takes to still be considered a TM teacher, I thought it was game over, man, and that I'd be excommunicated and cut off from the Highest Path for the rest of this life, and all subse- quent lives. Whew...all I have to do to still be part of the highest teaching is to give up my job, pay the same amount of money I originally paid to become a TM teacher all over again, and commit to teaching TM full time for the rest of my life. What a relief. Wow, when those folks at the dome told me that I was persona non grata and that they couldn't give me a dome badge because I'd seen Saint Blissananda a few years ago, I thought that was the end of it all for me. But then they explained that if I just publicly repented of my sins and promised never to do anything as stupid as think for myself again I could still be one of the Most Important People On Earth. Whew. Whew. I thought that Maharishi was going to blame US for the state of the world, as he's done so many times before. But thank the gods, it's really the fault of those low-vibe people in Scorpion Nation. Come ON someone, react please. Barry has just tried to push all the buttons he could find to get somebody to pay attention to him. I'm not interested enough in this subject to react but I have done my part by at least acknowledging his post. Anyone?
[FairfieldLife] Re: The science of how child abuse and cult abuse work
Its a very weak attempt on his part. The main thing I noticed is that Barry speaks about Maharishi as if he is an immediate threat to Barry, and his sensibilities. Guess no one told this dork that Maharishi passed away *over five years ago*. LOL --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: It could have been worse, interpreted as pleasure. http://psychcentral.com/news/2013/02/27/pain-can-turn-to-pleasure-if-less-intense-than-expected/52004.html To explain my thinking here, for those who never became TM teachers or, for that matter, never met Maharishi or got close enough to the TMO to figure out how things worked, here's the connection I see between this research and the way things work in cults. First, the connection to child abuse/spousal abuse: Wow, that wasn't so bad. He only gave me a black eye and broke my wrist. I was expecting him to kill me this time. Guess my life isn't so bad after all. And in cult environments, see if any of these scenarios sound at all familiar: Wow, when Maharishi called that meeting to tell us that the world was on the edge of total destruction, I thought that it really was the end of the world. But then he explained that everything would be all right if I just contributed more money to the pundit project and bounced on my butt twice a day as I'm supposed to. Wow, when Maharishi called that meeting about what it takes to still be considered a TM teacher, I thought it was game over, man, and that I'd be excommunicated and cut off from the Highest Path for the rest of this life, and all subse- quent lives. Whew...all I have to do to still be part of the highest teaching is to give up my job, pay the same amount of money I originally paid to become a TM teacher all over again, and commit to teaching TM full time for the rest of my life. What a relief. Wow, when those folks at the dome told me that I was persona non grata and that they couldn't give me a dome badge because I'd seen Saint Blissananda a few years ago, I thought that was the end of it all for me. But then they explained that if I just publicly repented of my sins and promised never to do anything as stupid as think for myself again I could still be one of the Most Important People On Earth. Whew. Whew. I thought that Maharishi was going to blame US for the state of the world, as he's done so many times before. But thank the gods, it's really the fault of those low-vibe people in Scorpion Nation. Come ON someone, react please. Barry has just tried to push all the buttons he could find to get somebody to pay attention to him. I'm not interested enough in this subject to react but I have done my part by at least acknowledging his post. Anyone?
[FairfieldLife] Re: The science of how child abuse and cult abuse work
OMG I see clearly now clear free of the influence of TMO engrams, state of Cleared Theta Clear [http://i.imgur.com/fSV89.gif] DEAR-CLEAR -ANN Your wish is my command How can I live like this, don't you understand? You know your wish is my command Now my life is in the palm of your hand Memories of better times Seem to be so far behind You took a hold of the reigns I'm left behind to feel the pain Trampled underneath your feet Wandering down an empty street You let me have just a little taste Then slapped the smile right off my face Your wish is my command How can I live like this, don't you understand? You know your wish is my command Now DECISIONS are in the palm of your hand [http://images.jayisgames.com/soniclover_button_screenshot2.gif] OR [:D] [http://www.beyourbrilliantbest.com/push%20red%20button.gif] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: It could have been worse, interpreted as pleasure. http://psychcentral.com/news/2013/02/27/pain-can-turn-to-pleasure-if-les\ s-intense-than-expected/52004.html To explain my thinking here, for those who never became TM teachers or, for that matter, never met Maharishi or got close enough to the TMO to figure out how things worked, here's the connection I see between this research and the way things work in cults. First, the connection to child abuse/spousal abuse: Wow, that wasn't so bad. He only gave me a black eye and broke my wrist. I was expecting him to kill me this time. Guess my life isn't so bad after all. And in cult environments, see if any of these scenarios sound at all familiar: Wow, when Maharishi called that meeting to tell us that the world was on the edge of total destruction, I thought that it really was the end of the world. But then he explained that everything would be all right if I just contributed more money to the pundit project and bounced on my butt twice a day as I'm supposed to. Wow, when Maharishi called that meeting about what it takes to still be considered a TM teacher, I thought it was game over, man, and that I'd be excommunicated and cut off from the Highest Path for the rest of this life, and all subse- quent lives. Whew...all I have to do to still be part of the highest teaching is to give up my job, pay the same amount of money I originally paid to become a TM teacher all over again, and commit to teaching TM full time for the rest of my life. What a relief. Wow, when those folks at the dome told me that I was persona non grata and that they couldn't give me a dome badge because I'd seen Saint Blissananda a few years ago, I thought that was the end of it all for me. But then they explained that if I just publicly repented of my sins and promised never to do anything as stupid as think for myself again I could still be one of the Most Important People On Earth. Whew. Whew. I thought that Maharishi was going to blame US for the state of the world, as he's done so many times before. But thank the gods, it's really the fault of those low-vibe people in Scorpion Nation. Come ON someone, react please. Barry has just tried to push all the buttons he could find to get somebody to pay attention to him. I'm not interested enough in this subject to react but I have done my part by at least acknowledging his post. Anyone?
[FairfieldLife] Re: The science of how child abuse and cult abuse work
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: Its a very weak attempt on his part. The main thing I noticed is that Barry speaks about Maharishi as if he is an immediate threat to Barry, and his sensibilities. Guess no one told this dork that Maharishi passed away *over five years ago*. LOL Maharishi isn't a threat to the Turq anymore. It's all those TM'ers that don't seem to want to go away that is bugging him. And they are INCREASING. Not to mention all those darned DOMES he sees popping up all over Europe in an alarming number. Just imagine the poor fellow taking a ride in his old battered Peugot 306 in the countryside. It's a torture for him to see all those F* Maharishi Golden DOMES everywhere ! He scares the hell out of PoppinParis at every turn when he imagines seeing another of those F DOMES just at the end of the road. He can relax only when he wakes up and realize it was just a nightmarish vision of how Europe will look like in 2213.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The science of how child abuse and cult abuse work
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: It could have been worse, interpreted as pleasure. http://psychcentral.com/news/2013/02/27/pain-can-turn-to-pleasure-if-less-intense-than-expected/52004.html To explain my thinking here, for those who never became TM teachers or, for that matter, never met Maharishi or got close enough to the TMO to figure out how things worked, here's the connection I see between this research and the way things work in cults. First, the connection to child abuse/spousal abuse: Wow, that wasn't so bad. He only gave me a black eye and broke my wrist. I was expecting him to kill me this time. Guess my life isn't so bad after all. And in cult environments, see if any of these scenarios sound at all familiar: Wow, when Maharishi called that meeting to tell us that the world was on the edge of total destruction, I thought that it really was the end of the world. But then he explained that everything would be all right if I just contributed more money to the pundit project and bounced on my butt twice a day as I'm supposed to. Wow, when Maharishi called that meeting about what it takes to still be considered a TM teacher, I thought it was game over, man, and that I'd be excommunicated and cut off from the Highest Path for the rest of this life, and all subse- quent lives. Whew...all I have to do to still be part of the highest teaching is to give up my job, pay the same amount of money I originally paid to become a TM teacher all over again, and commit to teaching TM full time for the rest of my life. What a relief. Wow, when those folks at the dome told me that I was persona non grata and that they couldn't give me a dome badge because I'd seen Saint Blissananda a few years ago, I thought that was the end of it all for me. But then they explained that if I just publicly repented of my sins and promised never to do anything as stupid as think for myself again I could still be one of the Most Important People On Earth. Whew. Whew. I thought that Maharishi was going to blame US for the state of the world, as he's done so many times before. But thank the gods, it's really the fault of those low-vibe people in Scorpion Nation. Come ON someone, react please. Barry has just tried to push all the buttons he could find to get somebody to pay attention to him. I'm not interested enough in this subject to react but I have done my part by at least acknowledging his post. Anyone? Maybe Share can provide Barry an endless list of healers so he can spend the rest of his life trying to heal the tremendous trauma inflicted on him by the TMO, all those decades ago. Such a burden carrying that around, crying out in pain on any Internet forum where people will listen. Let the healing begin!
[FairfieldLife] Re: The science of how child abuse and cult abuse work
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNjH23ucIE4 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: It could have been worse, interpreted as pleasure. http://psychcentral.com/news/2013/02/27/pain-can-turn-to-pleasure-if-less-intense-than-expected/52004.html To explain my thinking here, for those who never became TM teachers or, for that matter, never met Maharishi or got close enough to the TMO to figure out how things worked, here's the connection I see between this research and the way things work in cults. First, the connection to child abuse/spousal abuse: Wow, that wasn't so bad. He only gave me a black eye and broke my wrist. I was expecting him to kill me this time. Guess my life isn't so bad after all. And in cult environments, see if any of these scenarios sound at all familiar: Wow, when Maharishi called that meeting to tell us that the world was on the edge of total destruction, I thought that it really was the end of the world. But then he explained that everything would be all right if I just contributed more money to the pundit project and bounced on my butt twice a day as I'm supposed to. Wow, when Maharishi called that meeting about what it takes to still be considered a TM teacher, I thought it was game over, man, and that I'd be excommunicated and cut off from the Highest Path for the rest of this life, and all subse- quent lives. Whew...all I have to do to still be part of the highest teaching is to give up my job, pay the same amount of money I originally paid to become a TM teacher all over again, and commit to teaching TM full time for the rest of my life. What a relief. Wow, when those folks at the dome told me that I was persona non grata and that they couldn't give me a dome badge because I'd seen Saint Blissananda a few years ago, I thought that was the end of it all for me. But then they explained that if I just publicly repented of my sins and promised never to do anything as stupid as think for myself again I could still be one of the Most Important People On Earth. Whew. Whew. I thought that Maharishi was going to blame US for the state of the world, as he's done so many times before. But thank the gods, it's really the fault of those low-vibe people in Scorpion Nation. Come ON someone, react please. Barry has just tried to push all the buttons he could find to get somebody to pay attention to him. I'm not interested enough in this subject to react but I have done my part by at least acknowledging his post. Anyone? Maybe Share can provide Barry an endless list of healers so he can spend the rest of his life trying to heal the tremendous trauma inflicted on him by the TMO, all those decades ago. Such a burden carrying that around, crying out in pain on any Internet forum where people will listen. Let the healing begin!
[FairfieldLife] Re: The science of how child abuse and cult abuse work
I remember back in the early 80's when I used to wear a coat and tie to work, and nice leather shoes, I used to get a shoe shine at a dry cleaner place, where they also did alterations. I was up on the little bench getting a shoe shine when the fellow working at the sewing machine right in front of me had an epileptic fit. It was a strange site to behold, and it sort of felt like it was happening in slow motion. It saddened me that on subsequent visits he was no longer there. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: It could have been worse, interpreted as pleasure. http://psychcentral.com/news/2013/02/27/pain-can-turn-to-pleasure-if-les\ s-intense-than-expected/52004.html To explain my thinking here, for those who never became TM teachers or, for that matter, never met Maharishi or got close enough to the TMO to figure out how things worked, here's the connection I see between this research and the way things work in cults. First, the connection to child abuse/spousal abuse: Wow, that wasn't so bad. He only gave me a black eye and broke my wrist. I was expecting him to kill me this time. Guess my life isn't so bad after all. And in cult environments, see if any of these scenarios sound at all familiar: Wow, when Maharishi called that meeting to tell us that the world was on the edge of total destruction, I thought that it really was the end of the world. But then he explained that everything would be all right if I just contributed more money to the pundit project and bounced on my butt twice a day as I'm supposed to. Wow, when Maharishi called that meeting about what it takes to still be considered a TM teacher, I thought it was game over, man, and that I'd be excommunicated and cut off from the Highest Path for the rest of this life, and all subse- quent lives. Whew...all I have to do to still be part of the highest teaching is to give up my job, pay the same amount of money I originally paid to become a TM teacher all over again, and commit to teaching TM full time for the rest of my life. What a relief. Wow, when those folks at the dome told me that I was persona non grata and that they couldn't give me a dome badge because I'd seen Saint Blissananda a few years ago, I thought that was the end of it all for me. But then they explained that if I just publicly repented of my sins and promised never to do anything as stupid as think for myself again I could still be one of the Most Important People On Earth. Whew. Whew. I thought that Maharishi was going to blame US for the state of the world, as he's done so many times before. But thank the gods, it's really the fault of those low-vibe people in Scorpion Nation. Come ON someone, react please. Barry has just tried to push all the buttons he could find to get somebody to pay attention to him. I'm not interested enough in this subject to react but I have done my part by at least acknowledging his post. Anyone?
[FairfieldLife] Re: The science of how child abuse and cult abuse work
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: Maybe Share can provide Barry an endless list of healers so he can spend the rest of his life trying to heal the tremendous trauma inflicted on him by the TMO, all those decades ago. Such a burden carrying that around, crying out in pain on any Internet forum where people will listen. Let the healing begin! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=La70eV1mTe0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=La70eV1mTe0
[FairfieldLife] Re: The science of how child abuse and cult abuse work
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: Maybe Share can provide Barry an endless list of healers so he can spend the rest of his life trying to heal the tremendous trauma inflicted on him by the TMO, all those decades ago. Such a burden carrying that around, crying out in pain on any Internet forum where people will listen. Towards thee I row, thou all-destroying but unconquering whale; to the last I grapple with thee; from hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee. Sink all coffins and all hearses to one common pool! and since neither can be mine, let me then tow to pieces, while still chasing thee, though tied to thee, thou damned whale! Thus, I give up the spear! Let the healing begin!
[FairfieldLife] Re: The science of how child abuse and cult abuse work
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: It could have been worse, interpreted as pleasure. Towards thee I row, thou all-destroying but unconquering whale; to the last I grapple with thee; from hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee. Sink all coffins and all hearses to one common pool! and since neither can be mine, let me then tow to pieces, while still chasing thee, though tied to thee, thou damned whale! Thus, I give up the spear! http://psychcentral.com/news/2013/02/27/pain-can-turn-to-pleasure-if-less-intense-than-expected/52004.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: The science of how child abuse and cult abuse work
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: It could have been worse, interpreted as pleasure. Towards thee I row, thou all-destroying but unconquering whale; to the last I grapple with thee; from hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee. Sink all coffins and all hearses to one common pool! and since neither can be mine, let me then tow to pieces, while still chasing thee, though tied to thee, thou damned whale! Thus, I give up the spear! Do you presume to criticize the Great Oz? Om, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWyCCJ6B2WE http://psychcentral.com/news/2013/02/27/pain-can-turn-to-pleasure-if-less-intense-than-expected/52004.html
