[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Why the pokes at the Democratic Party? They have been rediculously compliant with every one of Bush's moves (as anyone bribed into silence would necessarily be...). So, if they are pretty ineffectual these days, which is obviously the case, and the Republicans are in charge of the Presidency, the Congress, and the Supreme Court, what's the problem with the Democrats? Amy Sullivan of Washington Monthly has an eye-opening article that rather neatly rebuts the notion that the Democrats are floundering around and letting Bush get away with stuff. Basically, she says the problem is that the media aren't reporting what the Democrats are doing, and she gives a bunch of examples: http://tinyurl.com/zud3c Excerpt: If the unsung Democratic guerillas were ever to adopt a mascot, it would have to be Rep. Louise Slaughter (D-N.Y.). The 10-term congresswoman from upstate New York is someone you don't hear about very often because: a) she's a House Democrat, and the media only has room for one of those, if that; and b) she's far too feisty and interesting. In a different news world that actually covered opposition parties, she'd be a media darling. Slaughter rarely bites her tongue, and she doesn't mind turning the tables on reporters. At age 76, she looks at least 15 years younger and has the energy of someone 50 years her junior. When I met Slaughter at her top-floor office in the Rayburn House Office Building to talk about why no one knows what she's been doing, she was ready to vent. There's this assumption that we're the Three Stooges over here, bungling around, she said, rolling her eyes. I hear it all day and all night. What's wrong with Democrats? she mimics. There's nothing wrong with us! Slaughter herself has waged an ongoingand largely unnoticedcampaign to highlight the ways in which Republicans have abused the legislative process, locking Democrats out completely and awarding themselves unbridled power. She almost single-handedly forced Republicans to back off on plans to tamper with the Ethics Committee in order to give Tom DeLay a break. The problem she and her colleagues run into over and over, Slaughter tells me, is that nobody knows what we're doing up here because nobody ever covers it. A perfect example occurred at the beginning of March. Slaughter, who is a ranking member on the House Rules Committee, released the report America for Sale: The Cost of Republican Corruption, outlining all of the ways that congressional Republicans have not only gamed the system, but created their own legislative system. She followed it up a week later with a legislative package to reform the House rules process, one of the major sources of GOP power. At a press conference to announce this reform package, Slaughter made her case and then challenged the reporters present, daring them to tell the story of how the Rules Committee had been hijacked. Unsurprisingly, no one did. That is, until Republicans decided to attack Slaughter's report, charging that it constituted campaign activity and was therefore an unlawful use of her office. Once journalists had a Republican angle to cover, it became a story, although the substance of Slaughter's report and its accusations was never mentioned. It's a fairly long article, but if you want a shorter version, Kevin Drum has a post about it on his blog that hits the high spots: http://tinyurl.com/jzdj7 Excerpt from Drum's post: Democrats have actually been surprisingly united and effective over the past year despite their minority status and the media's insistence on pushing their favored storyline of Dems as hopelessly divided and timid. The reality is that the sell-by date on that storyline expired long ago. Consider. Democrats successfully killed a Social Security privatization plan that nearly everyone thought was a lock for passage. Harry Reid forced the Intelligence Committee to investigate prewar intelligence by shutting down the Senate. Nancy Pelosi worked shrewdly with Jack Murtha to give him the maximum possible attention for his pro-withdrawal message. (Yes, really.) George Miller single- handedly forced George Bush to rescind his suspension of the Davis- Bacon Act following Hurricane Katrina. And Chuck Schumer was the driving force behind criticism of the Dubai port deal. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip (says Jim, hastily reporting an experience so Barry won't put him on the list) No need. You see, Jim's never used that old tried-ant-true TM shuck-and-jive routine that Judy uses when it comes to experiences. You know the one. Someone asks, Have you personally had experiences of enlightenment? And the TM TB says, We never discucss our experiences, with a big nudge, nudge, wink, wink, know what I mean, know what I mean? :-) I've never said that, of course, as Barry knows. What I've said (as he knows) is that *I* don't discuss my experiences *on demand* but rather when *I* feel like it. Obviously this trick worked for Judy when other TM teachers did it to her, so she's hoping it'll work when she does it here (despite her own words to the contrary that remain on the record). Not to the contrary, sorry. As Barry knows, I've never said that I would never have any spiritual experiences. In other words, folks, Barry is lying again. Jim has a somewhat more grownup approach to spiritual experience. When the subject comes up, he just describes his. He doesn't categorize them, he doesn't make a big deal about them, and he doesn't dwell on them. He doesn't play dueling experiences, suggest that his critics are criticizing him only because they haven't had any spiritual experiences, or demand that people describe their experiences or be labeled as never having had any, either. Jim isn't a phony like Barry. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip (says Jim, hastily reporting an experience so Barry won't put him on the list) No need. You see, Jim's never used that old tried-ant-true TM shuck-and-jive routine that Judy uses when it comes to experiences. Anybody remember Barry, a few days ago, vowing that his ignoring me since mid-March was such a great success that he'd decided he was going to ignore me forever? Anybody remember my predicting that he wouldn't last more than a week or two when he first proposed his experiment here (first this time around, that is)? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip (says Jim, hastily reporting an experience so Barry won't put him on the list) No need. You see, Jim's never used that old tried-ant-true TM shuck-and-jive routine that Judy uses when it comes to experiences. Anybody remember Barry, a few days ago, vowing that his ignoring me since mid-March was such a great success that he'd decided he was going to ignore me forever? Anybody notice that Judy is lying here about what I said? She must *really* be upset about being called on lying about her experiences if she's willing to lie about things that can actually be checked up on (in post #92710). :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [MDixon wrote:] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: heck, I didn't even get the picture! Who is it of? Is there web site where I can see it? Got it from the DrudgeReport. It's Georgia Representative and Democrat Cynthia McKinney. Interesting. I just looked at the Drudge Report. Here's the picture it has used most often in the stories it's linked to about the McKinney flap: http://www.11alive.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=78068 Oddly enough, I couldn't find the photo Shemp posted in any of the Drudge Report stories. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip (says Jim, hastily reporting an experience so Barry won't put him on the list) No need. You see, Jim's never used that old tried-ant-true TM shuck-and-jive routine that Judy uses when it comes to experiences. Anybody remember Barry, a few days ago, vowing that his ignoring me since mid-March was such a great success that he'd decided he was going to ignore me forever? Anybody notice that Judy is lying here about what I said? Here's what Barry said: From my side, it's been so pleasant to *not* interface with her that I'm going to continue with this little experiment and continue to ignore her. She must *really* be upset about being called on lying about her experiences if she's willing to lie about things that can actually be checked up on (in post #92710). :-) Thanks to Barry for providing the number of the post in which he said what I said he said, so I could quote it. Of course, we all (including Barry) know, he has no basis whatsoever for suggesting I have lied about my experiences. So he's lied *again*. Total phony. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: snip Where does the real responsibility currently lie for the mess that every sector of the country is in? Careful, Jim. You don't want to get on Barry's list of people who argue about politics because they have no spiritual experiences to report. Ha Ha! Barry or you can put me on any list you want. From my previous perspective where I would notice and observe the contrast of spiritual experiences, I would say I am constantly having spiritual experiences these days. Most notably in my dreams, which have become very clear. I'll have a desire when I am awake, then act it out in my dream, and then it goes away when I am awake again. Also can't hold onto desires like I used to. Its just different. Lost my fear of death and dying too. Don't get me wrong- I am very happy being alive in this body and would like to continue this for awhile, but realize that death (such a strange word, eh?) isn't really any different than this, here. Also don't notice much difference between deep transcendence and right now. No big deal- its just that I used to crave a greater contrast in meditation and notice it. Now I don't. What's up with that? (says Jim, hastily reporting an experience so Barry won't put him on the list) No need. You see, Jim's never used that old tried-ant-true TM shuck-and-jive routine that Judy uses when it comes to experiences. You know the one. Someone asks, Have you personally had experiences of enlightenment? And the TM TB says, We never discucss our experiences, with a big nudge, nudge, wink, wink, know what I mean, know what I mean? :-) I certainly heard the we never discuss our experiences from TM TBers but I never, ever got the impression that there was an attitude of big nudge, nudge, wink, wink, know what I mean, know what I mean accompanying it. Be that as it may, if anyone wants a slew of wonderful experiences to read, then pick up pretty much any book by Swami Muktananda because he has no qualms about discussing his experiences which he does extensively in most of his books. I recommend Play of Consciousness as a starter... Obviously this trick worked for Judy when other TM teachers did it to her, so she's hoping it'll work when she does it here (despite her own words to the contrary that remain on the record). Jim has a somewhat more grownup approach to spiritual experience. When the subject comes up, he just describes his. He doesn't categorize them, he doesn't make a big deal about them, and he doesn't dwell on them. He just deals with the question -- honestly -- and moves on. It's a role model that someone who spends as much time posturing as an honest person as Judy does might want to pay more attention to. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: [MDixon wrote:] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: heck, I didn't even get the picture! Who is it of? Is there web site where I can see it? Got it from the DrudgeReport. It's Georgia Representative and Democrat Cynthia McKinney. Interesting. I just looked at the Drudge Report. Here's the picture it has used most often in the stories it's linked to about the McKinney flap: http://www.11alive.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=78068 Oddly enough, I couldn't find the photo Shemp posted in any of the Drudge Report stories. They changed it several times during the day. I remember seeing at least three of them at different times. I tried going into their archive and although they catalogued each story during the day as it changed, they don't show the different photographs they used on the front page. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip (says Jim, hastily reporting an experience so Barry won't put him on the list) No need. You see, Jim's never used that old tried-ant-true TM shuck-and-jive routine that Judy uses when it comes to experiences. Anybody remember Barry, a few days ago, vowing that his ignoring me since mid-March was such a great success that he'd decided he was going to ignore me forever? Anybody notice that Judy is lying here about what I said? Here's what Barry said: From my side, it's been so pleasant to *not* interface with her that I'm going to continue with this little experiment and continue to ignore her. Exactly. Does anyone see the word forever in that sentence? Does anyone even see it implied? Did anyone notice that Judy did *NOT* apologize for lying or making a misstatement? Not even when it was made apparent that's what she was doing? I *hoped* to ignore her. I still have that hope. But I knew even when I said what I did above that I would probably be unable to do so 100%. Judy is, after all, such a treasuretrove of bullshit that every so often one just *has* to comment on the bullshit. :-) Just as a contrast, since I posted that statement above, Judy has written 18 posts that specifically insulted me, called me a liar and other names, and did their level best *TO* draw me back into a head- to-head confrontation with her. I'd say I've done pretty well to have ignored her as much as I have done. :-) I stand by what I wrote. Judy *USED* to be more honest when it came to her own personal experiences with higher states of consciousness. She was down- right *OPEN* on a.m.t. about NEVER HAVING HAD ANY. But here, faced with an audience that *has* had such experiences, suddenly she's singing a different tune, and *IMPLYING* that she's had experiences that I think most of us here suspect she has not (or she wouldn't say so many stupid things about them). So I stand by my opinion -- she is intentionally LYING (by omission) about her range of subjective experience, and she knows she's lying about it. Now, having made my point, back to ignoring her. Judy really hates that...watch how many posts she makes in the next few days trashing me. The more I ignore her, the more posts she'll make to try to lure me back in to the head-to-head argumentation she lives for. (Just look at how many *other* posters on FFL she's lured into that kind of head-to-head confrontation in the time since I've been ignoring her...a junkie's gotta have her arguments.) Mark my words...I'll bet she makes at least 18 *more* posts insulting me within the next week. :-) :-) :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
Now that we have the Rich-Text Editor (Beta) feature, I think it's high time that Judy and Barry get to know each other. Why not have both of them post their photographs here? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip (says Jim, hastily reporting an experience so Barry won't put him on the list) No need. You see, Jim's never used that old tried-ant-true TM shuck-and-jive routine that Judy uses when it comes to experiences. Anybody remember Barry, a few days ago, vowing that his ignoring me since mid-March was such a great success that he'd decided he was going to ignore me forever? Anybody notice that Judy is lying here about what I said? She must *really* be upset about being called on lying about her experiences if she's willing to lie about things that can actually be checked up on (in post #92710). :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: [MDixon wrote:] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: heck, I didn't even get the picture! Who is it of? Is there web site where I can see it? Got it from the DrudgeReport. It's Georgia Representative and Democrat Cynthia McKinney. Interesting. I just looked at the Drudge Report. Here's the picture it has used most often in the stories it's linked to about the McKinney flap: http://www.11alive.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=78068 Oddly enough, I couldn't find the photo Shemp posted in any of the Drudge Report stories. They changed it several times during the day. I remember seeing at least three of them at different times. I tried going into their archive and although they catalogued each story during the day as it changed, they don't show the different photographs they used on the front page. The one I linked to is pretty nice, huh? Wonder why they used a different one? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now that we have the Rich-Text Editor (Beta) feature, I think it's high time that Judy and Barry get to know each other. Why not have both of them post their photographs here? It's a lot like discussing one's spiritual experiences. When the subject comes up, some people just say what their experiences have been and don't make a big deal about the experiences one way or another. Others get all huffy and go out of their way to point out that they don't talk about their experiences on principle, just *SO* they can imply that they'd actually *HAD* a few such experiences. Similarly, when it comes to photos, some people just post them and others make a big deal about *not* posting them. My photo has been up in the Photos section pretty much the entire time I've been posting to FFL. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip (says Jim, hastily reporting an experience so Barry won't put him on the list) No need. You see, Jim's never used that old tried-ant-true TM shuck-and-jive routine that Judy uses when it comes to experiences. Anybody remember Barry, a few days ago, vowing that his ignoring me since mid-March was such a great success that he'd decided he was going to ignore me forever? Anybody notice that Judy is lying here about what I said? Here's what Barry said: From my side, it's been so pleasant to *not* interface with her that I'm going to continue with this little experiment and continue to ignore her. Exactly. Does anyone see the word forever in that sentence? Does anyone even see it implied? Of course it's implied. You didn't qualify it in any way with, e.g., for a while, for the next month/year/decade. Did anyone notice that Judy did *NOT* apologize for lying or making a misstatement? Not even when it was made apparent that's what she was doing? Au contraire, dude. I *hoped* to ignore her. I still have that hope. Hope is not a plan. But I knew even when I said what I did above that I would probably be unable to do so 100%. Oddly enough, you didn't say that. You led folks to believe you'd kicked the habit for good. But your unqualified statement didn't even last a week--exactly as I predicted. Judy is, after all, such a treasuretrove of bullshit that every so often one just *has* to comment on the bullshit. :-) Just as a contrast, since I posted that statement above, Judy has written 18 posts that specifically insulted me, called me a liar and other names, and did their level best *TO* draw me back into a head- to-head confrontation with her. No, I just expressed my opinon, as I always have and always will. What Barry really means here is that he was sorely *tempted* to be drawn in. He didn't resist for very long, did he? I'd say I've done pretty well to have ignored her as much as I have done. :-) I stand by what I wrote. Judy *USED* to be more honest when it came to her own personal experiences with higher states of consciousness. She was down- right *OPEN* on a.m.t. about NEVER HAVING HAD ANY. I'll just point out again the absolute idiocy of assuming that what someone reports of their experiences at one particular point in time is somehow the absolute limit and that they will never experience anything more in the future. If somebody were to make such a suggestion to Barry, you'd hear his howls of scorn all the way to Vlodrop. But here, faced with an audience that *has* had such experiences, suddenly she's singing a different tune, and *IMPLYING* that she's had experiences that I think most of us here suspect she has not Most people here aren't phonies, Barry. You really need to bear that in mind when you attribute views to others. (or she wouldn't say so many stupid things about them). snicker Such as what? You must have some things in mind, Barry. Please cite them. So I stand by my opinion -- she is intentionally LYING (by omission) about her range of subjective experience, and she knows she's lying about it. Now, having made my point, back to ignoring her. Uh-huh. I give it two weeks, max. Every single time I've made such a prediction, it's been borne out. Judy really hates that...watch how many posts she makes in the next few days trashing me. The more I ignore her, the more posts she'll make to try to lure me back in to the head-to-head argumentation she lives for. No, I'll comment on your posts if and as I see fit, as I always have. Barry, you know this attempted intimidation tactic-- which you've used many times before--doesn't work with me. Just a reminder of the definition of insanity: doing the exact same thing over and over again in the hope that the result will be different. If you want me to stop criticizing your posts, there's one thing you can do that will actually be effective: stop being such a rank phony, and stop lying. (Just look at how many *other* posters on FFL she's lured into that kind of head-to-head confrontation in the time since I've been ignoring her...a junkie's gotta have her arguments.) Mark my words...I'll bet she makes at least 18 *more* posts insulting me within the next week. :-) :-) :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Now that we have the Rich-Text Editor (Beta) feature, I think it's high time that Judy and Barry get to know each other. Why not have both of them post their photographs here? It's a lot like discussing one's spiritual experiences. When the subject comes up, some people just say what their experiences have been and don't make a big deal about the experiences one way or another. Others get all huffy and go out of their way to point out that they don't talk about their experiences on principle, just *SO* they can imply that they'd actually *HAD* a few such experiences. Similarly, when it comes to photos, some people just post them and others make a big deal about *not* posting them. My photo has been up in the Photos section pretty much the entire time I've been posting to FFL. Some people don't feel the *need* either to boast about their experiences, or post their photos. It's an attachment thing, Barry. You'll probably grow out of it eventually. (Barry's still pissed because I did send some photos of myself when I was in college to a few people on alt.m.t, but I wouldn't send them to him.) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: [MDixon wrote:] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: heck, I didn't even get the picture! Who is it of? Is there web site where I can see it? Got it from the DrudgeReport. It's Georgia Representative and Democrat Cynthia McKinney. Interesting. I just looked at the Drudge Report. Here's the picture it has used most often in the stories it's linked to about the McKinney flap: http://www.11alive.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=78068 Oddly enough, I couldn't find the photo Shemp posted in any of the Drudge Report stories. They changed it several times during the day. I remember seeing at least three of them at different times. I tried going into their archive and although they catalogued each story during the day as it changed, they don't show the different photographs they used on the front page. The one I linked to is pretty nice, huh? Wonder why they used a different one? I don't think Drudge likes her, so he used the most unflattering one. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Now that we have the Rich-Text Editor (Beta) feature, I think it's high time that Judy and Barry get to know each other. Why not have both of them post their photographs here? It's a lot like discussing one's spiritual experiences. When the subject comes up, some people just say what their experiences have been and don't make a big deal about the experiences one way or another. Others get all huffy and go out of their way to point out that they don't talk about their experiences on principle, just *SO* they can imply that they'd actually *HAD* a few such experiences. Similarly, when it comes to photos, some people just post them and others make a big deal about *not* posting them. My photo has been up in the Photos section pretty much the entire time I've been posting to FFL. Under turquoiseB there is no photo. We can't hand-hold you through your *entire* life, Shemp. Keep working at it...I'm sure you'll figure it out sooner or later... :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip (says Jim, hastily reporting an experience so Barry won't put him on the list) No need. You see, Jim's never used that old tried-ant-true TM shuck-and-jive routine that Judy uses when it comes to experiences. Anybody remember Barry, a few days ago, vowing that his ignoring me since mid-March was such a great success that he'd decided he was going to ignore me forever? Anybody notice that Judy is lying here about what I said? She must *really* be upset about being called on lying about her experiences if she's willing to lie about things that can actually be checked up on (in post #92710). :-) Message 92710:] [...] From my side, it's been so pleasant to *not* interface with her that I'm going to continue with this little experiment and continue to ignore her. [...] If attacking me is what she needs to get herself off, so be it. But just as she has been doing for the last two weeks, she will be doing it in the future without my participation. I hope that this will make the mastur- batory nature of her obsession even more apparent. :-) Over and out... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip (says Jim, hastily reporting an experience so Barry won't put him on the list) No need. You see, Jim's never used that old tried-ant-true TM shuck-and-jive routine that Judy uses when it comes to experiences. Anybody remember Barry, a few days ago, vowing that his ignoring me since mid-March was such a great success that he'd decided he was going to ignore me forever? Anybody notice that Judy is lying here about what I said? Here's what Barry said: From my side, it's been so pleasant to *not* interface with her that I'm going to continue with this little experiment and continue to ignore her. Exactly. Does anyone see the word forever in that sentence? Does anyone even see it implied? Well, yeah, at the bottom of what you wrote: If attacking me is what she needs to get herself off, so be it. But just as she has been doing for the last two weeks, she will be doing it in the future without my participation. I hope that this will make the mastur- batory nature of her obsession even more apparent. :-) Over and out... I'm thinking of setting up a website for donations for the Barry Bonks Judy encounter. Anyone interested in hosting it? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm thinking of setting up a website for donations for the Barry Bonks Judy encounter. Anyone interested in hosting it? Some people *really* need to get a life of their own. :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm thinking of setting up a website for donations for the Barry Bonks Judy encounter. Anyone interested in hosting it? This from the guy who says he hasn't gotten laid in years, possibly decades? Some people *really* need to get a life of their own. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm thinking of setting up a website for donations for the Barry Bonks Judy encounter. Anyone interested in hosting it? This from the guy who says he hasn't gotten laid in years, possibly decades? Some people *really* need to get a life of their own and stop living vicariously. :-) Besides, I am far too Buddhist to ever consider doing what you suggest...necrophilia is a big no-no. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
I know this is something people often say, but I can't say I agree with it. In work and relationships, I've often continued to do the same thing over and over, and over time I've got very different results. Persistence pays off. As Blake put it, If the fool would persist in his folly, he would become wise. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a reminder of the definition of insanity: doing the exact same thing over and over again in the hope that the result will be different. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: I'm thinking of setting up a website for donations for the Barry Bonks Judy encounter. Anyone interested in hosting it? This from the guy who says he hasn't gotten laid in years, possibly decades? Some people *really* need to get a life of their own and stop living vicariously. :-) You're just jealous. Besides, I am far too Buddhist to ever consider doing what you suggest...necrophilia is a big no-no. But indulging in constant criticism of other people is living the life of a saint... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip Besides, I am far too Buddhist to ever consider doing what you suggest...necrophilia is a big no-no. But indulging in constant criticism of other people is living the life of a saint... No, no, gotta be a big phony and tell lies too. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip The one I linked to is pretty nice, huh? Wonder why they used a different one? I don't think Drudge likes her, so he used the most unflattering one. She's really a very attractive woman. She's also wonderfully vivacious and extremely articulate in the interviews I've seen. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip Besides, I am far too Buddhist to ever consider doing what you suggest...necrophilia is a big no-no. But indulging in constant criticism of other people is living the life of a saint... No, no, gotta be a big phony and tell lies too. OK...that's it, Judy-- You are definitely going on THE LIST! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip The one I linked to is pretty nice, huh? Wonder why they used a different one? I don't think Drudge likes her, so he used the most unflattering one. She's really a very attractive woman. I actually find her quite attractive myself. She's also wonderfully vivacious and extremely articulate in the interviews I've seen. Other than the press conference of the other day, I haven't seen her interviewed. From what I've read, I think her politics are the most horrible and most destructive. By the way, concerning Drudge's choice of photos. Certainly, he cherry-picked a most unattractive one purposely, I'll agree to that. But, of course, he did it on purpose and he would probably be the first to admit it. I remember seeing him interviewed by Brian Lamb on C-SPAN a few years ago when he was taking callers. One caller complained to him that he thought his coverage of Israel was extremely biased. Drudge's response? It was short and I think it summed up the power that the internet holds for the individual. He replied: If you don't like it, start your own website. Of course, Drudge was just literally one guy -- himself -- sitting in his appartment and was a news junkie. He started a website where all he pretty much did was post links to stories that interested him and he put on scoops that people sent him or that he fished out on the internet. Not being a major news outlet he wasn't subject to the usual verification rules or other rules of journalism so he put alot of rumors -- many unsubstantiated and, it would turn out later, wrong -- that major news outlets could never put out or would wait until they got better confirmation before they would put out. As the story goes, that's why Drudge got the Lewinsky story before anybody 'cause Newsweek had it, was going to go with it, but was waiting for more verification. Drudge had the luxury of not having to wait, so he went with it and the rest is history. They say that, today, most journalists and newsrooms in America are ALL linked to Drudge and that his website is the #1 place where jouranlists go to first for news. Quite powerful for one individual...and it's pretty much still a one- man operation as I understand it (Maybe he's got one employee or something like that). To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
shempmcgurk wrote: From what I've read, I think her politics are the most horrible and most destructive. There's been a lot of eye-rolling, said an aide to a moderate Democrat who spoke on condition of anonymity. The national attention it's been getting has been unfortunate. It's becoming a distraction. A Democratic strategist concurred. This isn't the view of Democrats that we want to project in the tough races, one of victims and race-baiting, the strategist said. Read more: 'McKinney is distraction, say the Dems' By Josephine Hearn http://tinyurl.com/r25mk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip The one I linked to is pretty nice, huh? Wonder why they used a different one? I don't think Drudge likes her, so he used the most unflattering one. She's really a very attractive woman. I actually find her quite attractive myself. She's also wonderfully vivacious and extremely articulate in the interviews I've seen. Other than the press conference of the other day, I haven't seen her interviewed. From what I've read, I think her politics are the most horrible and most destructive. By the way, concerning Drudge's choice of photos. Certainly, he cherry-picked a most unattractive one purposely, I'll agree to that. But, of course, he did it on purpose and he would probably be the first to admit it. I remember seeing him interviewed by Brian Lamb on C-SPAN a few years ago when he was taking callers. One caller complained to him that he thought his coverage of Israel was extremely biased. Drudge's response? It was short and I think it summed up the power that the internet holds for the individual. He replied: If you don't like it, start your own website. Of course, Drudge was just literally one guy -- himself -- sitting in his appartment and was a news junkie. He started a website where all he pretty much did was post links to stories that interested him and he put on scoops that people sent him or that he fished out on the internet. Not being a major news outlet he wasn't subject to the usual verification rules or other rules of journalism so he put alot of rumors -- many unsubstantiated and, it would turn out later, wrong -- that major news outlets could never put out or would wait until they got better confirmation before they would put out. As the story goes, that's why Drudge got the Lewinsky story before anybody 'cause Newsweek had it, was going to go with it, but was waiting for more verification. Drudge had the luxury of not having to wait, so he went with it and the rest is history. They say that, today, most journalists and newsrooms in America are ALL linked to Drudge and that his website is the #1 place where jouranlists go to first for news. Quite powerful for one individual...and it's pretty much still a one- man operation as I understand it (Maybe he's got one employee or something like that). Iprefer Josh Micah Marshal of http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shempmcgurk wrote: From what I've read, I think her politics are the most horrible and most destructive. There's been a lot of eye-rolling, said an aide to a moderate Democrat who spoke on condition of anonymity. The national attention it's been getting has been unfortunate. It's becoming a distraction. A Democratic strategist concurred. This isn't the view of Democrats that we want to project in the tough races, one of victims and race-baiting, the strategist said. Read more: 'McKinney is distraction, say the Dems' By Josephine Hearn http://tinyurl.com/r25mk Yeah, plenty of nuts on both sides. Read a great article in the New York magzine though, about how the Dems are targeting 6 seats in the Senate I think it was to gain a majority. Hope they can pull it off. Will be a miracle all around if that happens. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
Right, Congress is lily-white on the Republican side of the aisle. On the Democratic side, there are 42 black representatives and one Democratic senator. Guess that's why you're not a Democrat, huh, Shemp? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
Why is race the first thing that pops into your mind when you see the photo that I posted, Judy? I think that says alot more about you than anything. I posted the photo that I did because the very fact that this particular person is ALLOWED to be a member of the Democratic Party says oodles about liberals: they are sympathetic to anti-semites and racists. Had Robert Byrd -- a white Democrat -- been in the news as of late, I would have put his photo on there. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right, Congress is lily-white on the Republican side of the aisle. On the Democratic side, there are 42 black representatives and one Democratic senator. Guess that's why you're not a Democrat, huh, Shemp? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is race the first thing that pops into your mind when you see the photo that I posted, Judy? I think that says alot more about you than anything. No, Shemp, it says a lot about what I know about you. I posted the photo that I did because the very fact that this particular person is ALLOWED to be a member of the Democratic Party says oodles about liberals: they are sympathetic to anti-semites and racists. Had Robert Byrd -- a white Democrat -- been in the news as of late, I would have put his photo on there. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Right, Congress is lily-white on the Republican side of the aisle. On the Democratic side, there are 42 black representatives and one Democratic senator. Guess that's why you're not a Democrat, huh, Shemp? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
I don't understand the point of the picture. Was there a caption? And since when does one person make up an entire party? Sal On Apr 3, 2006, at 12:35 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Why is race the first thing that pops into your mind when you see > the photo that I posted, Judy? > > I think that says alot more about you than anything. No, Shemp, it says a lot about what I know about you.
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't understand the point of the picture. Was there a caption? No, there was no caption. In light of current events I thought the picture would speak for itself. I was wrong. The point was: this is a picture of a racist and anti-semite and, like former Klansman Robert Byrd, is a member of the Democratic Party. And since when does one person make up an entire party? One person makes up an entire party when the other members of the party are silent on her racism and anti-semitism. Sal On Apr 3, 2006, at 12:35 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Why is race the first thing that pops into your mind when you see the photo that I posted, Judy? I think that says alot more about you than anything. No, Shemp, it says a lot about what I know about you. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: I don't understand the point of the picture. Was there a caption? No, there was no caption. In light of current events I thought the picture would speak for itself. I was wrong. The point was: this is a picture of a racist and anti-semite and, like former Klansman Robert Byrd, is a member of the Democratic Party. Why the pokes at the Democratic Party? They have been rediculously compliant with every one of Bush's moves (as anyone bribed into silence would necessarily be...). So, if they are pretty ineffectual these days, which is obviously the case, and the Republicans are in charge of the Presidency, the Congress, and the Supreme Court, what's the problem with the Democrats? Do you honestly think the Democratic Party, weak and impotent as it is, still must change in some way shape or form to make everything alright again? Where does the real responsibility currently lie for the mess that every sector of the country is in? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: I don't understand the point of the picture. Was there a caption? No, there was no caption. In light of current events I thought the picture would speak for itself. I was wrong. The point was: this is a picture of a racist and anti-semite and, like former Klansman Robert Byrd, is a member of the Democratic Party. Why the pokes at the Democratic Party? They have been rediculously compliant with every one of Bush's moves (as anyone bribed into silence would necessarily be...). So, if they are pretty ineffectual these days, which is obviously the case, and the Republicans are in charge of the Presidency, the Congress, and the Supreme Court, what's the problem with the Democrats? Do you honestly think the Democratic Party, weak and impotent as it is, still must change in some way shape or form to make everything alright again? Where does the real responsibility currently lie for the mess that every sector of the country is in? Careful, Jim. You don't want to get on Barry's list of people who argue about politics because they have no spiritual experiences to report. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: I don't understand the point of the picture. Was there a caption? No, there was no caption. In light of current events I thought the picture would speak for itself. I was wrong. The point was: this is a picture of a racist and anti-semite and, like former Klansman Robert Byrd, is a member of the Democratic Party. Why the pokes at the Democratic Party? They have been rediculously compliant with every one of Bush's moves (as anyone bribed into silence would necessarily be...). So, if they are pretty ineffectual these days, which is obviously the case, and the Republicans are in charge of the Presidency, the Congress, and the Supreme Court, what's the problem with the Democrats? Do you honestly think the Democratic Party, weak and impotent as it is, still must change in some way shape or form to make everything alright again? Where does the real responsibility currently lie for the mess that every sector of the country is in? I'm no big fan or defender of the Republican party but please name each sector you're referring to and why each is in the mess you claim it is in... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
On Apr 3, 2006, at 12:58 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: No, there was no caption. In light of current events I thought the picture would speak for itself. I was wrong. The point was: this is a picture of a racist and anti-semite and, like former Klansman Robert Byrd, is a member of the Democratic Party. Oh. Is she an elected representative? > And > since when does one person make up an entire party? One person makes up an entire party when the other members of the party are silent on her racism and anti-semitism. Maybe they don't know it exists.And while one person can be representative of a group, they cannot make up a group on their own. Two entirely different things, Shemp. Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
In a message dated 4/3/06 12:59:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't understand the point of the picture. Was there a caption? heck, I didn't even get the picture! Who is it of? Is there web site where I can see it? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
I don't know, maybe Shemp knows of one, although I kind of doubt it. Sal On Apr 3, 2006, at 3:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't understand the point of the picture. Was there a caption? heck, I didn't even get the picture! Who is it of? Is there web site where I can see it?
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 3, 2006, at 12:58 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: No, there was no caption. In light of current events I thought the picture would speak for itself. I was wrong. The point was: this is a picture of a racist and anti-semite and, like former Klansman Robert Byrd, is a member of the Democratic Party. Oh. Is she an elected representative? Yes, from Georgia (elected in 2004 by 64 percent in a majority white district; she'd already served 10 years in Congress but was defeated in 2002). She's something of a fringe-left nutcase, and she's a favorite target of right-wingers like Shemp. Google Cynthia McKinney and racist and you'll see what kind of company Shemp keeps. Here's a fairly balanced piece on her antics from Slate: http://www.slate.com/?id=2064530 She has something like a 95 percent ADA voting record, and she has fought hard for many progressive causes (pro-union, pro-education, pro-abortion rights, etc.). The Capitol Hill police, it seems, have a history of great difficulty recognizing her as a member of Congress. She's currently embroiled in a dispute in which she apparently smacked a Hill officer in the chest after he grabbed her to stop her from entering the building without passing through the metal detector (members of Congress don't have to). They say she doesn't wear her official pin. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
On Apr 3, 2006, at 4:49 PM, authfriend wrote: > Oh. Is she an elected representative? Yes, from Georgia (elected in 2004 by 64 percent in a majority white district; she'd already served 10 years in Congress but was defeated in 2002). Oh, okay...I didn't recognize her, not havng seen her picture in a while. She's something of a fringe-left nutcase, and she's a favorite target of right-wingers like Shemp. Google Cynthia McKinney and racist and you'll see what kind of company Shemp keeps. What a surprise. Here's a fairly balanced piece on her antics from Slate: http://www.slate.com/?id=2064530 Thanks. She has something like a 95 percent ADA voting record, and she has fought hard for many progressive causes (pro-union, pro-education, pro-abortion rights, etc.). The Capitol Hill police, it seems, have a history of great difficulty recognizing her as a member of Congress. So they harass her? Seems like a lawsuit could take care of that, especially if they do it fairly regularly. She's currently embroiled in a dispute in which she apparently smacked a Hill officer in the chest after he grabbed her to stop her from entering the building without passing through the metal detector (members of Congress don't have to). They say she doesn't wear her official pin.
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 4/3/06 12:59:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: I don't understand the point of the picture. Was there a caption? heck, I didn't even get the picture! Who is it of? Is there web site where I can see it? Got it from the DrudgeReport. It's Georgia Representative and Democrat Cynthia McKinney. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Apr 3, 2006, at 12:58 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: No, there was no caption. In light of current events I thought the picture would speak for itself. I was wrong. The point was: this is a picture of a racist and anti-semite and, like former Klansman Robert Byrd, is a member of the Democratic Party. Oh. Is she an elected representative? Yes, from Georgia (elected in 2004 by 64 percent in a majority white district; she'd already served 10 years in Congress but was defeated in 2002). She's something of a fringe-left nutcase, and she's a favorite target of right-wingers like Shemp. Google Cynthia McKinney and racist and you'll see what kind of company Shemp keeps. ...then try googling Cynthia McKinney and jews and you'll see what kind of company Judy keeps... Here's a fairly balanced piece on her antics from Slate: http://www.slate.com/?id=2064530 She has something like a 95 percent ADA voting record, and she has fought hard for many progressive causes (pro-union, pro-education, pro-abortion rights, etc.). The Capitol Hill police, it seems, have a history of great difficulty recognizing her as a member of Congress. She's currently embroiled in a dispute in which she apparently smacked a Hill officer in the chest after he grabbed her to stop her from entering the building without passing through the metal detector (members of Congress don't have to). They say she doesn't wear her official pin. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Apr 3, 2006, at 12:58 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: No, there was no caption. In light of current events I thought the picture would speak for itself. I was wrong. The point was: this is a picture of a racist and anti-semite and, like former Klansman Robert Byrd, is a member of the Democratic Party. Oh. Is she an elected representative? Yes, from Georgia (elected in 2004 by 64 percent in a majority white district; she'd already served 10 years in Congress but was defeated in 2002). She's something of a fringe-left nutcase, and she's a favorite target of right-wingers like Shemp. Google Cynthia McKinney and racist and you'll see what kind of company Shemp keeps. Here's a fairly balanced piece on her antics from Slate: http://www.slate.com/?id=2064530 She has something like a 95 percent ADA voting record, and she has fought hard for many progressive causes (pro-union, pro-education, pro-abortion rights, etc.). The Capitol Hill police, it seems, have a history of great difficulty recognizing her as a member of Congress. She's currently embroiled in a dispute in which she apparently smacked a Hill officer in the chest after he grabbed her to stop her from entering the building without passing through the metal detector (members of Congress don't have to). They say she doesn't wear her official pin. Actually it's not only they (the Capital Hill Police) that say she didn't wear her offical pin; that's the one thing that McKinney herself agrees with. By the way, there is apparently a videotape of the whole incident that hasn't yet been released. It will be interesting to see what's in it. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 3, 2006, at 4:49 PM, authfriend wrote: Oh. Is she an elected representative? Yes, from Georgia (elected in 2004 by 64 percent in a majority white district; she'd already served 10 years in Congress but was defeated in 2002). Oh, okay...I didn't recognize her, not havng seen her picture in a while. She's something of a fringe-left nutcase, and she's a favorite target of right-wingers like Shemp. Google Cynthia McKinney and racist and you'll see what kind of company Shemp keeps. What a surprise. Fuck you, too, Sal. Here's a fairly balanced piece on her antics from Slate: http://www.slate.com/?id=2064530 Thanks. She has something like a 95 percent ADA voting record, and she has fought hard for many progressive causes (pro-union, pro-education, pro-abortion rights, etc.). The Capitol Hill police, it seems, have a history of great difficulty recognizing her as a member of Congress. So they harass her? Seems like a lawsuit could take care of that, especially if they do it fairly regularly. She's currently embroiled in a dispute in which she apparently smacked a Hill officer in the chest after he grabbed her to stop her from entering the building without passing through the metal detector (members of Congress don't have to). They say she doesn't wear her official pin. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 3, 2006, at 4:49 PM, authfriend wrote: Oh. Is she an elected representative? Yes, from Georgia (elected in 2004 by 64 percent in a majority white district; she'd already served 10 years in Congress but was defeated in 2002). Oh, okay...I didn't recognize her, not havng seen her picture in a while. She's something of a fringe-left nutcase, and she's a favorite target of right-wingers like Shemp. Google Cynthia McKinney and racist and you'll see what kind of company Shemp keeps. What a surprise. Here's a fairly balanced piece on her antics from Slate: http://www.slate.com/?id=2064530 Thanks. She has something like a 95 percent ADA voting record, and she has fought hard for many progressive causes (pro-union, pro-education, pro-abortion rights, etc.). The Capitol Hill police, it seems, have a history of great difficulty recognizing her as a member of Congress. So they harass her? Seems like a lawsuit could take care of that, especially if they do it fairly regularly. What a surprise. Sal taking sides with an anti-semite and a racist. She's currently embroiled in a dispute in which she apparently smacked a Hill officer in the chest after he grabbed her to stop her from entering the building without passing through the metal detector (members of Congress don't have to). They say she doesn't wear her official pin. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 3, 2006, at 4:49 PM, authfriend wrote: snip The Capitol Hill police, it seems, have a history of great difficulty recognizing her as a member of Congress. So they harass her? Seems like a lawsuit could take care of that, especially if they do it fairly regularly. Hard to prove. She doesn't wear her official pin, apparently, so she's almost inviting it. On the other hand, you wonder whether the same thing would happen with a white congresswoman (or man, for that matter). Somehow I have the sense the police would have a lot less trouble recognizing the person, with or without a pin. I think she is threatening a lawsuit against the officer who grabbed her, however. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
In a message dated 4/3/06 4:59:24 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The point was: this is a picture of a racist and anti-semite and, like former Klansman Robert Byrd, is a member of the Democratic Party. Oh. Is she an elected representative?Yes, from Georgia (elected in 2004 by 64 percent ina majority white district; she'd already served 10years in Congress but was defeated in 2002).She's something of a fringe-left nutcase, and she'sa favorite target of right-wingers like Shemp.Google "Cynthia McKinney" and "racist" and you'llsee what kind of company Shemp keeps. Oh! Shaneeka! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Apr 3, 2006, at 12:58 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: No, there was no caption. In light of current events I thought the picture would speak for itself. I was wrong. The point was: this is a picture of a racist and anti-semite and, like former Klansman Robert Byrd, is a member of the Democratic Party. Oh. Is she an elected representative? Yes, from Georgia (elected in 2004 by 64 percent in a majority white district; she'd already served 10 years in Congress but was defeated in 2002). She's something of a fringe-left nutcase, and she's a favorite target of right-wingers like Shemp. Google Cynthia McKinney and racist and you'll see what kind of company Shemp keeps. ...then try googling Cynthia McKinney and jews and you'll see what kind of company Judy keeps... Not. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip The Capitol Hill police, it seems, have a history of great difficulty recognizing her as a member of Congress. She's currently embroiled in a dispute in which she apparently smacked a Hill officer in the chest after he grabbed her to stop her from entering the building without passing through the metal detector (members of Congress don't have to). They say she doesn't wear her official pin. Actually it's not only they (the Capital Hill Police) that say she didn't wear her offical pin; that's the one thing that McKinney herself agrees with. Actually I said doesn't wear her official pin, i.e., they say she has a history of not wearing it. Has she agreed with that? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip The Capitol Hill police, it seems, have a history of great difficulty recognizing her as a member of Congress. She's currently embroiled in a dispute in which she apparently smacked a Hill officer in the chest after he grabbed her to stop her from entering the building without passing through the metal detector (members of Congress don't have to). They say she doesn't wear her official pin. Actually it's not only they (the Capital Hill Police) that say she didn't wear her offical pin; that's the one thing that McKinney herself agrees with. Actually I said doesn't wear her official pin, i.e., they say she has a history of not wearing it. Has she agreed with that? Sorry, missed that. No, apparently she agreed with the one incident under discussion -- I have no idea whether she agrees with the claim that she does it often. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
In a message dated 4/3/06 5:35:13 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Capitol Hill police, it seems, have a history of great difficulty recognizing her as a member of Congress.So they harass her? Seems like a lawsuit could take care of that, especially if they do it fairly regularly. Sal, Capitol Hill police do have trouble recognizing her because she frequently changes her hairstyle and general appearance and frequently doesn't wear her congressional id badge. There have been about 5 times in the past that they have had to stop her to identify her. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
Actually I did, and here's a good example of what I found: Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney: April 20th Statement for Peace We come here today from the four corners of this nation. We are blacks and whites, Latinos, Asians, and Native Americans; Christians, Muslims, and Jews; gay, lesbian, and straight; immigrants and native-born Americans; rich and poor. Here today are representatives of all sections of society: students, union members . . . union members on strike . . . homeless veterans . . . and everyday warriors on the battlefield for justice. But despite all our differences, we are here today . . . one community with one thing in common: a desire to see the restoration of the true ideals of America. Sure sounds like a racist to me--no wonder Shemp doesn't like her. Sal x-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger On Apr 3, 2006, at 5:51 PM, authfriend wrote: > > She's something of a fringe-left nutcase, and she's > > a favorite target of right-wingers like Shemp. > > Google Cynthia McKinney and racist and you'll > > see what kind of company Shemp keeps. > > ...then try googling Cynthia McKinney and jews and you'll see > what kind of company Judy keeps... Not.
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
Keep researching Sal. And I don't think you'll want to start riding on the Cynthia McKinney bandwagon... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually I did, and here's a good example of what I found: Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney: April 20th Statement for Peace We come here today from the four corners of this nation. We are blacks and whites, Latinos, Asians, and Native Americans; Christians, Muslims, and Jews; gay, lesbian, and straight; immigrants and native-born Americans; rich and poor. Here today are representatives of all sections of society: students, union members . . . union members on strike . . . homeless veterans . . . and everyday warriors on the battlefield for justice. But despite all our differences, we are here today . . . one community with one thing in common: a desire to see the restoration of the true ideals of America. Sure sounds like a racist to me--no wonder Shemp doesn't like her. Sal On Apr 3, 2006, at 5:51 PM, authfriend wrote: She's something of a fringe-left nutcase, and she's a favorite target of right-wingers like Shemp. Google Cynthia McKinney and racist and you'll see what kind of company Shemp keeps. ...then try googling Cynthia McKinney and jews and you'll see what kind of company Judy keeps... Not. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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OK, her hairstyle is possible...but her general appearance? How does she change that? Does she have plastic surgery on a regular basis or something? Not doubting you, MD, just the whole things sounds sort of fishy. Sal On Apr 3, 2006, at 6:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sal, Capitol Hill police do have trouble recognizing her because she frequently changes her hairstyle and general appearance and frequently doesn't wear her congressional id badge. There have been about 5 times in the past that they have had to stop her to identify her.
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In a message dated 4/3/06 6:17:08 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: OK, her hairstyle is possible...but her "general appearance"? How does she change that? Does she have plastic surgery on a regular basis or something?Not doubting you, MD, just the whole things sounds sort of fishy.Sal Make up, clothes, hairstyle and her weight seems to fluctuate. The picture on the Drudge report looks like Eddie Murphy doing Buckwheat in drag. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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No thanks Shemp, I don't have the time or inclination to support someone else's silly fantasies. Do your own research. I posted a good quote--you're not responding to it because you can't. Sal On Apr 3, 2006, at 6:15 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: Keep researching Sal. And I don't think you'll want to start riding on the Cynthia McKinney bandwagon...
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Sounds pretty normal to me. Don't everyone's clothes fluctuate on, say, a daily basis? Make-up too. And it's pretty unlikely that she would either gain or lose weight so quickly that someone would have trouble recognizing her. The few pictures of her that I recall seeing all look pretty consistent. Sal On Apr 3, 2006, at 6:20 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Make up, clothes, hairstyle and her weight seems to fluctuate.
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Where does the real responsibility currently lie for the mess that every sector of the country is in? Careful, Jim. You don't want to get on Barry's list of people who argue about politics because they have no spiritual experiences to report. Ha Ha! Barry or you can put me on any list you want. From my previous perspective where I would notice and observe the contrast of spiritual experiences, I would say I am constantly having spiritual experiences these days. Most notably in my dreams, which have become very clear. I'll have a desire when I am awake, then act it out in my dream, and then it goes away when I am awake again. Also can't hold onto desires like I used to. Its just different. Lost my fear of death and dying too. Don't get me wrong- I am very happy being alive in this body and would like to continue this for awhile, but realize that death (such a strange word, eh?) isn't really any different than this, here. Also don't notice much difference between deep transcendence and right now. No big deal- its just that I used to crave a greater contrast in meditation and notice it. Now I don't. What's up with that? (says Jim, hastily reporting an experience so Barry won't put him on the list) ;-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: snip Where does the real responsibility currently lie for the mess that every sector of the country is in? Careful, Jim. You don't want to get on Barry's list of people who argue about politics because they have no spiritual experiences to report. Ha Ha! Barry or you can put me on any list you want. From my previous perspective where I would notice and observe the contrast of spiritual experiences, I would say I am constantly having spiritual experiences these days. Most notably in my dreams, which have become very clear. I'll have a desire when I am awake, then act it out in my dream, and then it goes away when I am awake again. Also can't hold onto desires like I used to. Its just different. Lost my fear of death and dying too. Don't get me wrong- I am very happy being alive in this body and would like to continue this for awhile, but realize that death (such a strange word, eh?) isn't really any different than this, here. Also don't notice much difference between deep transcendence and right now. No big deal- its just that I used to crave a greater contrast in meditation and notice it. Now I don't. What's up with that? (says Jim, hastily reporting an experience so Barry won't put him on the list) ;-) Oh no, not that...not THE LIST!!! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ snip Careful, Jim. You don't want to get on Barry's list of people who argue about politics because they have no spiritual experiences to report. If one is reporting spiritual experiences as mine, the experiences are at best trivial. Having a list of such ones claiming their individual specialness is kind of funny. Barry going to great lengths to show how special, spiritual and superior (the S tribeca), that he is because he has such a list, and is on it, is priceless. Ha Ha! Barry or you can put me on any list you want. (says Jim, hastily reporting an experience so Barry won't put him on the list) ;-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No thanks Shemp, I don't have the time or inclination to support someone else's silly fantasies. Do your own research. I posted a good quote--you're not responding to it because you can't. http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/005/079 tehyf.asp http://www.atljewishtimes.com/archives/1999/110599cs.htm Sal On Apr 3, 2006, at 6:15 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: Keep researching Sal. And I don't think you'll want to start riding on the Cynthia McKinney bandwagon... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anony_sleuth_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Barry going to great lengths to show how special, spiritual and superior (the S tribeca) (Trifecta; Tribeca is an area in downtown NYC.) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anony_sleuth_ff no_reply@ wrote: snip Barry going to great lengths to show how special, spiritual and superior (the S tribeca) (Trifecta; Tribeca is an area in downtown NYC.) yes, good correction. It sounded off when I typed it. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] Actually it's not only they (the Capital Hill Police) that say she didn't wear her offical pin; that's the one thing that McKinney herself agrees with. By the way, there is apparently a videotape of the whole incident that hasn't yet been released. It will be interesting to see what's in it. The upshot of all this is that there's at least one elected Democratic member of COngress who may qualify in many people's minds as a nutcase. Of course, as we all know, there are no nutcases on the Republican side of Congress... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 4/3/06 6:17:08 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: OK, her hairstyle is possible...but her general appearance? How does she change that? Does she have plastic surgery on a regular basis or something? Not doubting you, MD, just the whole things sounds sort of fishy. Sal Make up, clothes, hairstyle and her weight seems to fluctuate. The picture on the Drudge report looks like Eddie Murphy doing Buckwheat in drag. It may have been cherry-picked also. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anony_sleuth_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ snip Careful, Jim. You don't want to get on Barry's list of people who argue about politics because they have no spiritual experiences to report. If one is reporting spiritual experiences as mine, the experiences are at best trivial. Yeah, I agree. Speaking for myself, the attribution of the experiences as 'mine' is used as convention, in order to be understood. Nonetheless, the experiences are experienced as trivial. You are correct. Having a list of such ones claiming their individual specialness is kind of funny. Again, speaking only for myself, I agree. Definitely kind of funny. Barry going to great lengths to show how special, spiritual and superior (the S tribeca), that he is because he has such a list, and is on it, is priceless. Ha Ha! Barry or you can put me on any list you want. (says Jim, hastily reporting an experience so Barry won't put him on the list) ;-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: snip Where does the real responsibility currently lie for the mess that every sector of the country is in? Careful, Jim. You don't want to get on Barry's list of people who argue about politics because they have no spiritual experiences to report. Ha Ha! Barry or you can put me on any list you want. From my previous perspective where I would notice and observe the contrast of spiritual experiences, I would say I am constantly having spiritual experiences these days. Most notably in my dreams, which have become very clear. I'll have a desire when I am awake, then act it out in my dream, and then it goes away when I am awake again. Also can't hold onto desires like I used to. Its just different. Lost my fear of death and dying too. Don't get me wrong- I am very happy being alive in this body and would like to continue this for awhile, but realize that death (such a strange word, eh?) isn't really any different than this, here. Also don't notice much difference between deep transcendence and right now. No big deal- its just that I used to crave a greater contrast in meditation and notice it. Now I don't. What's up with that? (says Jim, hastily reporting an experience so Barry won't put him on the list) No need. You see, Jim's never used that old tried-ant-true TM shuck-and-jive routine that Judy uses when it comes to experiences. You know the one. Someone asks, Have you personally had experiences of enlightenment? And the TM TB says, We never discucss our experiences, with a big nudge, nudge, wink, wink, know what I mean, know what I mean? :-) Obviously this trick worked for Judy when other TM teachers did it to her, so she's hoping it'll work when she does it here (despite her own words to the contrary that remain on the record). Jim has a somewhat more grownup approach to spiritual experience. When the subject comes up, he just describes his. He doesn't categorize them, he doesn't make a big deal about them, and he doesn't dwell on them. He just deals with the question -- honestly -- and moves on. It's a role model that someone who spends as much time posturing as an honest person as Judy does might want to pay more attention to. :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
