[FairfieldLife] Re: slight change in directive to recerts

2005-08-26 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have been told that recerts are not to worry about finding
Maharishi Enlightenment 
 Centers any more (space in exisiting malls which would be
reconfigured). Now they are to 
 arrange for the building of Peace Palaces.  Apparently, this means
that they are to look for 
 land that says build to suit and to let the developer handle the
financing and building 
 details.  I am only assuming that this means that the TMO is
actually and truly going to 
 pay for this stuff, since I cannot imagine anyone, even a TB,
offering money for this type of 
 venture.  I think MMY is planning on spending a good deal of the
money collected over the 
 years, wants to leave a physical legacy of big beautiful buildings
to help perpetuate the 
 teachings.

What stuff is the TMO going to pay for?  As you say, the tmo expects
the developer to finance the building costs.  Also I think recerts are
still trying to sell RAM Bonds which is just another word for
donation.  Do you mean pay for the land?

When it came time to put real money down for mall leases the grand
plan fizzled.  I still think MMY sees the US as a place from where
funds come to him, not the other way around.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: slight change in directive to recerts

2005-08-26 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I have been told that recerts are not to worry about finding
 Maharishi Enlightenment 
  Centers any more (space in exisiting malls which would be
 reconfigured). Now they are to 
  arrange for the building of Peace Palaces.  Apparently, this means
 that they are to look for 
  land that says build to suit and to let the developer handle the
 financing and building 
  details.  I am only assuming that this means that the TMO is
 actually and truly going to 
  pay for this stuff, since I cannot imagine anyone, even a TB,
 offering money for this type of 
  venture.  I think MMY is planning on spending a good deal of the
 money collected over the 
  years, wants to leave a physical legacy of big beautiful buildings
 to help perpetuate the 
  teachings.
 
 What stuff is the TMO going to pay for?  As you say, the tmo expects
 the developer to finance the building costs.  Also I think recerts are
 still trying to sell RAM Bonds which is just another word for
 donation.  Do you mean pay for the land?
 
 When it came time to put real money down for mall leases the grand
 plan fizzled.  I still think MMY sees the US as a place from where
 funds come to him, not the other way around.

I didn't know that the TMO never came up with the money for the mall leases -in 
that case, 
this is standard operating procedure and will have the standard result: nothing 
gained and 
the loss of a few more now-disillusioned people.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: slight change in directive to recerts

2005-08-26 Thread Kenny H
You know, I don't think it is that theese people have no experience
with reality, including Maharishi. I think they just don't care to
participate in everyone else's version of it. It is the way they act
out their particular drama.

It's the way President George W. Bush operates. Is he unaware of the
effect his policies are having on people who aren't wealthy, on the
already poor and disenfranchised, on the middle class who are finding
themselves increasinlgy unable to finance the American way of life? He
cannot be unaware, he just doesn't care to concern himself with it in
his own particular version of reality.

To me, it seems like MMY/the TMO comes up with these loopy ideas,
underneath it all, maybe in their subconcscious mind they are looking
to be able to say, See, the world sucks and once again here is the
proof, we are offering them Heaven on Earth and these little
cockroaches can't see that and allows the sense of self-righteous
arrogance to continue. 

It's just their way of creating their particular blend of drama.
That's why I think none of these ideas will ever really amount to
much, the drama would be over and that is not what the TMO is looking for.

Ken


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Why in the world would a developer work with the TMO
 in constructing a peace palace? Hey you, build us a
 huge building, you finance everything and let us name
 the building and have several floors in the building
 for a really cheap rate.  I can see developers just
 lining up to do this! This is such stupid thinking, as
 usual, from the TMO. Thought up by people with
 absolutely no experience with little r reality.
 
 --- wayback71 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I have been told that recerts are not to worry about
  finding Maharishi Enlightenment 
  Centers any more (space in exisiting malls which
  would be reconfigured). Now they are to 
  arrange for the building of Peace Palaces. 
  Apparently, this means that they are to look for 
  land that says build to suit and to let the
  developer handle the financing and building 
  details.  I am only assuming that this means that
  the TMO is actually and truly going to 
  pay for this stuff, since I cannot imagine anyone,
  even a TB, offering money for this type of 
  venture.  I think MMY is planning on spending a good
  deal of the money collected over the 
  years, wants to leave a physical legacy of big
  beautiful buildings to help perpetuate the 
  teachings.
  
  
  
  
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[FairfieldLife] Re: slight change in directive to recerts

2005-08-26 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kenny H [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 snip
 To me, it seems like MMY/the TMO comes up with these loopy ideas,
 underneath it all, maybe in their subconcscious mind they are looking
 to be able to say, See, the world sucks and once again here is the
 proof, we are offering them Heaven on Earth and these little
 cockroaches can't see that and allows the sense of self-righteous
 arrogance to continue. 
 
 It's just their way of creating their particular blend of drama.
 That's why I think none of these ideas will ever really amount to
 much, the drama would be over and that is not what the TMO is looking for.
 
 Ken

Interesting idea - that in order for the drama to continue and to keep certain 
types of 
people hooked, you cannot accomplish your goals.  The TMO needs these hopeless 
projects.  Anyway, all this stuff  made it easy for me to disengage and sit 
back and watch 
the show  - we could rationalize it as practice for cc!!  I think the next 10 
years will be 
fascinating.  I look forward to it.
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Why in the world would a developer work with the TMO
  in constructing a peace palace? Hey you, build us a
  huge building, you finance everything and let us name
  the building and have several floors in the building
  for a really cheap rate.  I can see developers just
  lining up to do this! This is such stupid thinking, as
  usual, from the TMO. Thought up by people with
  absolutely no experience with little r reality.
  
  --- wayback71 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   I have been told that recerts are not to worry about
   finding Maharishi Enlightenment 
   Centers any more (space in exisiting malls which
   would be reconfigured). Now they are to 
   arrange for the building of Peace Palaces. 
   Apparently, this means that they are to look for 
   land that says build to suit and to let the
   developer handle the financing and building 
   details.  I am only assuming that this means that
   the TMO is actually and truly going to 
   pay for this stuff, since I cannot imagine anyone,
   even a TB, offering money for this type of 
   venture.  I think MMY is planning on spending a good
   deal of the money collected over the 
   years, wants to leave a physical legacy of big
   beautiful buildings to help perpetuate the 
   teachings.
   
   
   
   
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[FairfieldLife] Re: slight change in directive to recerts

2005-08-26 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 I have been told that recerts are not to worry about finding 
Maharishi Enlightenment 
 Centers any more (space in exisiting malls which would be 
reconfigured). Now they are to 
 arrange for the building of Peace Palaces.  Apparently, this means 
that they are to look for 
 land that says build to suit and to let the developer handle the 
financing and building 
 details.  I am only assuming that this means that the TMO is 
actually and truly going to 
 pay for this stuff, since I cannot imagine anyone, even a TB, 
offering money for this type of 
 venture.  I think MMY is planning on spending a good deal of the 
money collected over the 
 years, wants to leave a physical legacy of big beautiful buildings 
to help perpetuate the 
 teachings.


By big beautiful buildings you mean the plantation-like Carnegy-
library-like Greek-fraternity-like columned Peace Palaces I see on 
the Maharishi websites?

that's some physical legacy...




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[FairfieldLife] Re: slight change in directive to recerts

2005-08-26 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  I have been told that recerts are not to worry about finding
 Maharishi Enlightenment 
  Centers any more (space in exisiting malls which would be
 reconfigured). Now they are to 
  arrange for the building of Peace Palaces.  Apparently, this 
means
 that they are to look for 
  land that says build to suit and to let the developer handle 
the
 financing and building 
  details.  I am only assuming that this means that the TMO is
 actually and truly going to 
  pay for this stuff, since I cannot imagine anyone, even a TB,
 offering money for this type of 
  venture.  I think MMY is planning on spending a good deal of the
 money collected over the 
  years, wants to leave a physical legacy of big beautiful 
buildings
 to help perpetuate the 
  teachings.
 
 What stuff is the TMO going to pay for?  As you say, the tmo 
expects
 the developer to finance the building costs.  Also I think recerts 
are
 still trying to sell RAM Bonds which is just another word for
 donation.  Do you mean pay for the land?
 
 When it came time to put real money down for mall leases the grand
 plan fizzled.  I still think MMY sees the US as a place from where
 funds come to him, not the other way around.

The US according to MMY:

1) a place from which to raise unlimited funds; and

2) a place which is the source of all evil in the world.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: slight change in directive to recerts

2005-08-26 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I have been told that recerts are not to worry about finding
  Maharishi Enlightenment 
   Centers any more (space in exisiting malls which would be
  reconfigured). Now they are to 
   arrange for the building of Peace Palaces.  Apparently, this 
means
  that they are to look for 
   land that says build to suit and to let the developer handle 
the
  financing and building 
   details.  I am only assuming that this means that the TMO is
  actually and truly going to 
   pay for this stuff, since I cannot imagine anyone, even a TB,
  offering money for this type of 
   venture.  I think MMY is planning on spending a good deal of 
the
  money collected over the 
   years, wants to leave a physical legacy of big beautiful 
buildings
  to help perpetuate the 
   teachings.
  
  What stuff is the TMO going to pay for?  As you say, the tmo 
expects
  the developer to finance the building costs.  Also I think 
recerts are
  still trying to sell RAM Bonds which is just another word for
  donation.  Do you mean pay for the land?
  
  When it came time to put real money down for mall leases the 
grand
  plan fizzled.  I still think MMY sees the US as a place from 
where
  funds come to him, not the other way around.
 
 I didn't know that the TMO never came up with the money for the 
mall leases -in that case, 
 this is standard operating procedure and will have the standard 
result: nothing gained and 
 the loss of a few more now-disillusioned people.


...but there's always the TBers who took the recert course and were 
gung-ho -- at least for a few weeks -- about going out into the 
field and actually looked for mall space.  And from them the TMO 
will be able to glean some more photographs for future Movement 
broshures of rosy-cheeked, vacant-staring, smiling faces...




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[FairfieldLife] Re: slight change in directive to recerts

2005-08-26 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
   I have been told that recerts are not to worry about finding
  Maharishi Enlightenment 
   Centers any more (space in exisiting malls which would be
  reconfigured). Now they are to 
   arrange for the building of Peace Palaces.  Apparently, this means
  that they are to look for 
   land that says build to suit and to let the developer handle the
  financing and building 
   details.  I am only assuming that this means that the TMO is
  actually and truly going to 
   pay for this stuff, since I cannot imagine anyone, even a TB,
  offering money for this type of 
   venture.  I think MMY is planning on spending a good deal of the
  money collected over the 
   years, wants to leave a physical legacy of big beautiful buildings
  to help perpetuate the 
   teachings.
  
  What stuff is the TMO going to pay for?  As you say, the tmo expects
  the developer to finance the building costs.  Also I think recerts are
  still trying to sell RAM Bonds which is just another word for
  donation.  Do you mean pay for the land?
  
  When it came time to put real money down for mall leases the grand
  plan fizzled.  I still think MMY sees the US as a place from where
  funds come to him, not the other way around.
 
 I didn't know that the TMO never came up with the money for the mall
leases -in that case, 
 this is standard operating procedure and will have the standard
result: nothing gained and 
 the loss of a few more now-disillusioned people.

Sounds like they're phishing for altruistically minded builders to use
their money. But I think builders are more hard-nosed than that.

JohnY
 




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[FairfieldLife] Re: slight change in directive to recerts

2005-08-26 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kenny H 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  snip
  To me, it seems like MMY/the TMO comes up with these loopy ideas,
  underneath it all, maybe in their subconcscious mind they are 
looking
  to be able to say, See, the world sucks and once again here is 
the
  proof, we are offering them Heaven on Earth and these little
  cockroaches can't see that and allows the sense of self-
righteous
  arrogance to continue. 
  
  It's just their way of creating their particular blend of drama.
  That's why I think none of these ideas will ever really amount to
  much, the drama would be over and that is not what the TMO is 
looking for.
  
  Ken
 
 Interesting idea - that in order for the drama to continue and to 
keep certain types of 
 people hooked, you cannot accomplish your goals.  The TMO needs 
these hopeless 
 projects.  Anyway, all this stuff  made it easy for me to 
disengage and sit back and watch 
 the show



And, to boot, you get to still practise TM.

So you get the best of both worlds: the benefits of the TM program 
and freedom from the shackles of having to belong to a cult!




  - we could rationalize it as practice for cc!!  I think the next 
10 years will be 
 fascinating.  I look forward to it.
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Why in the world would a developer work with the TMO
   in constructing a peace palace? Hey you, build us a
   huge building, you finance everything and let us name
   the building and have several floors in the building
   for a really cheap rate.  I can see developers just
   lining up to do this! This is such stupid thinking, as
   usual, from the TMO. Thought up by people with
   absolutely no experience with little r reality.
   
   --- wayback71 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
I have been told that recerts are not to worry about
finding Maharishi Enlightenment 
Centers any more (space in exisiting malls which
would be reconfigured). Now they are to 
arrange for the building of Peace Palaces. 
Apparently, this means that they are to look for 
land that says build to suit and to let the
developer handle the financing and building 
details.  I am only assuming that this means that
the TMO is actually and truly going to 
pay for this stuff, since I cannot imagine anyone,
even a TB, offering money for this type of 
venture.  I think MMY is planning on spending a good
deal of the money collected over the 
years, wants to leave a physical legacy of big
beautiful buildings to help perpetuate the 
teachings.




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