Re: [FairfieldLife] Steve Jobs diet quirks

2011-11-03 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Nov 2, 2011, at 8:49 PM, tartbrain wrote:

 And the Fire, as I understand, is Amazons quick to market for Christmas 
 season. The REAL tablet which they have spend most of their time and 
 resources developing, and lots of consumer sessions, is coming in spring 
 2012. Hopefully that will run the latest version of Droid.

This is good to know.  About the possible Fire 2, I mean,
not the latest or anything else version of Droid, which
means about as much to me as it would to the average
Martian.  That info lets me engage in one of my
favorite games~~Procrastination.  Whether it's based
on reality or not usually isn't important.  

Sal 







[FairfieldLife] Steve Jobs diet quirks

2011-11-02 Thread Bhairitu
Interesting article on Steve Jobs dietary quirks (not too unlike some 
quirks people have here) and comments by nutritional experts:
http://bodyodd.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/02/8598251-the-strange-eating-habits-of-steve-jobs


Re: [FairfieldLife] Steve Jobs diet quirks

2011-11-02 Thread Vaj

On Nov 2, 2011, at 5:08 PM, Bhairitu wrote:

 Interesting article on Steve Jobs dietary quirks (not too unlike some 
 quirks people have here) and comments by nutritional experts:
 http://bodyodd.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/02/8598251-the-strange-eating-habits-of-steve-jobs


Yeah, Jobs (whose strange health habits were fairly well known) reminds me a 
lot of TM Org and other New Ages faddists: weird diets, odd supplementation 
regimes, unusual approaches to disease and avoidance of modern mainstream 
healthcare. Often these are taken to obsessive and excessive levels: worrying 
about the latest-greatest supplements or dosing up on Indian or Chinese herbs 
to the point of heavy-metal overload.

Jobs clearly signed his own death certificate with the strange idea that he 
could force a rare form of pancreatic CA into remission through diet. 
Occasionally you'll see someone who gets lucky with such an approach, but 
almost invariably these types just suddenly disappear. Gone.

The only good news in this case is now I may eventually get Flash on my 
iPad…but otherwise what a waste of a life, all based on holding strange 
untenable beliefs.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Steve Jobs diet quirks

2011-11-02 Thread Bhairitu
On 11/02/2011 02:22 PM, Vaj wrote:
 On Nov 2, 2011, at 5:08 PM, Bhairitu wrote:

 Interesting article on Steve Jobs dietary quirks (not too unlike some
 quirks people have here) and comments by nutritional experts:
 http://bodyodd.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/02/8598251-the-strange-eating-habits-of-steve-jobs

 Yeah, Jobs (whose strange health habits were fairly well known) reminds me a 
 lot of TM Org and other New Ages faddists: weird diets, odd supplementation 
 regimes, unusual approaches to disease and avoidance of modern mainstream 
 healthcare. Often these are taken to obsessive and excessive levels: worrying 
 about the latest-greatest supplements or dosing up on Indian or Chinese herbs 
 to the point of heavy-metal overload.

Modern mainstream healthcare isn't very good when it comes to diet.  
Too many doctors want a one diet fits all approach and that won't 
work.  And how many times have you heard as I have from air head 
nationalists eat plenty of fruits and vegetables.  Vegetables yes but 
fruits can cause blood sugar imbalances and need to be addressed with 
care.  Doctors are lucky if they get one semester on nutrition.  
Probably the biggest influence on the body is what you eat daily.

The ancients had a good handle on it be it Ayurveda or Chinese 
medicine.  It's really nothing much more than biochemistry but as one 
former med student told me many med students find biochemistry 
challenging and have difficulty passing the course.  Perhaps we should 
limit medicine to those with actually have a talent for it rather than 
those whose parents were doctors.

 Jobs clearly signed his own death certificate with the strange idea that he 
 could force a rare form of pancreatic CA into remission through diet. 
 Occasionally you'll see someone who gets lucky with such an approach, but 
 almost invariably these types just suddenly disappear. Gone.

I haven't checked into it yet but I heard a claim that he lived 8 years 
beyond diagnosis when 1 to 2 years is the average so some things he did 
might have helped.
 The only good news in this case is now I may eventually get Flash on my 
 iPad…but otherwise what a waste of a life, all based on holding strange 
 untenable beliefs.

You mean like I have on my Android tablet. :-D




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Steve Jobs diet quirks

2011-11-02 Thread Vaj

On Nov 2, 2011, at 5:32 PM, Bhairitu wrote:

 Modern mainstream healthcare isn't very good when it comes to diet.

It depends on the physician. I see an MD who's an Integrative practitioner.

  
 Too many doctors want a one diet fits all approach and that won't 
 work.  And how many times have you heard as I have from air head 
 nationalists eat plenty of fruits and vegetables.  Vegetables yes but 
 fruits can cause blood sugar imbalances and need to be addressed with 
 care.  Doctors are lucky if they get one semester on nutrition.  
 Probably the biggest influence on the body is what you eat daily.
 
 The ancients had a good handle on it be it Ayurveda or Chinese 
 medicine.  It's really nothing much more than biochemistry but as one 
 former med student told me many med students find biochemistry 
 challenging and have difficulty passing the course.  Perhaps we should 
 limit medicine to those with actually have a talent for it rather than 
 those whose parents were doctors.

Biochem and P-chem are usually the make or break courses for most pre-Med 
students.

Foods are drugs, albeit in very dilute forms. It's really that simple or that 
complex. Element based medical systems put a friendly user interface on this 
complexity so anyone can use it. But it's not a be-all and end-all. Much of the 
laws of karma are stored in our underlying DNA.

Some things are actually much more difficult to handle with herbs and 
supplementation than with common pharmaceuticals. And most holistic-type 
practitioners do not possess the wisdom to distinguish the differences.

 
 Jobs clearly signed his own death certificate with the strange idea that he 
 could force a rare form of pancreatic CA into remission through diet. 
 Occasionally you'll see someone who gets lucky with such an approach, but 
 almost invariably these types just suddenly disappear. Gone.
 
 I haven't checked into it yet but I heard a claim that he lived 8 years 
 beyond diagnosis when 1 to 2 years is the average so some things he did 
 might have helped.

The type of pancreatic cancer he had was a relatively rare one which was 
survivable - if you didn't do the weird diet miracle-cure BS.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Steve Jobs diet quirks

2011-11-02 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Nov 2, 2011, at 4:22 PM, Vaj wrote:

 On Nov 2, 2011, at 5:08 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
 
 Interesting article on Steve Jobs dietary quirks (not too unlike some 
 quirks people have here) and comments by nutritional experts:
 http://bodyodd.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/02/8598251-the-strange-eating-habits-of-steve-jobs
 
 
 Yeah, Jobs (whose strange health habits were fairly well known) reminds me a 
 lot of TM Org and other New Ages faddists: weird diets, odd supplementation 
 regimes, unusual approaches to disease and avoidance of modern mainstream 
 healthcare. Often these are taken to obsessive and excessive levels: worrying 
 about the latest-greatest supplements or dosing up on Indian or Chinese herbs 
 to the point of heavy-metal overload.

It was the carrots-and-apples-for-weeks that
kind of got to me.  Besides overload, really
boring.   Probably explain his shifting
moods too. Not such a great idea being CEO of a 
major company, holding meetings, etc while you're
basically starving yourself.  Wonder what his 
wife's take on all of that including his
unconventional ideas on his cancer treatment was.

 Jobs clearly signed his own death certificate with the strange idea that he 
 could force a rare form of pancreatic CA into remission through diet. 
 Occasionally you'll see someone who gets lucky with such an approach, but 
 almost invariably these types just suddenly disappear. Gone.
 
 The only good news in this case is now I may eventually get Flash on my iPad…

Really?  So then they should work with, say,
Amazon instant videos?  That would be nice.
Just one more thing to thank Steve for.

Sal 









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Re: [FairfieldLife] Steve Jobs diet quirks

2011-11-02 Thread Bhairitu
On 11/02/2011 03:29 PM, Vaj wrote:
 On Nov 2, 2011, at 5:32 PM, Bhairitu wrote:

 Modern mainstream healthcare isn't very good when it comes to diet.
 It depends on the physician. I see an MD who's an Integrative practitioner.

Yes it does depend on the physician.  My ayurvedic doc was an MD.  Moved 
out of the area to run a hospital up north.

California isn't as hip about such stuff as people might think because 
the California Medical Association rules with an iron hand in lockstep 
with Big Pharma.  Doctors have become drug pushers.


 Too many doctors want a one diet fits all approach and that won't
 work.  And how many times have you heard as I have from air head
 nationalists eat plenty of fruits and vegetables.  Vegetables yes but
 fruits can cause blood sugar imbalances and need to be addressed with
 care.  Doctors are lucky if they get one semester on nutrition.
 Probably the biggest influence on the body is what you eat daily.

 The ancients had a good handle on it be it Ayurveda or Chinese
 medicine.  It's really nothing much more than biochemistry but as one
 former med student told me many med students find biochemistry
 challenging and have difficulty passing the course.  Perhaps we should
 limit medicine to those with actually have a talent for it rather than
 those whose parents were doctors.
 Biochem and P-chem are usually the make or break courses for most pre-Med 
 students.

 Foods are drugs, albeit in very dilute forms. It's really that simple or that 
 complex. Element based medical systems put a friendly user interface on this 
 complexity so anyone can use it. But it's not a be-all and end-all. Much of 
 the laws of karma are stored in our underlying DNA.

 Some things are actually much more difficult to handle with herbs and 
 supplementation than with common pharmaceuticals. And most holistic-type 
 practitioners do not possess the wisdom to distinguish the differences.

I would disagree with that.  After all the holistic practitioners I had 
*were* MDs.  And as you should know there are pharmaceuticals that were 
derived from the molecular structure of herbs used for remedies.

I'm just not big on conventional medicine since I've had years of 
success with alternative care.  Sure there are things like a cataract 
that alternative does not even get into.  I think there are too many 
sour grapes on FFL because of a few bad alternative practitioners.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Steve Jobs diet quirks

2011-11-02 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Nov 2, 2011, at 7:57 PM, tartbrain wrote:

 
 The only good news in this case is now I may eventually get Flash on my 
 iPad…
 
 Really?  So then they should work with, say,
 Amazon instant videos?  That would be nice.
 Just one more thing to thank Steve for.
 
 
 Sal
 
 Presumably the $199 Amazon Kindle Fire will also play Amazon Instant Video. 
 And for Prime members, much of that library is free. An offer I-tunes lacks 
 (or have I missed that.) Amazon Instant Video recently acquired access to all 
 PBS content. The expands their library a lot -- for quality programming 
 (should one be inclined towards documentaries -- I like a lot of their 
 stuff.) 
 
 Way cheaper tablet, way cheaper content. And Droid Honeycomb looks great.   

Agreed.  We have Prime, and love it, so will probably
get a Fire as well.  But it sure would be nice to be
able to also use our iPad for that too.
Sal 









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