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The top 10% paid 68% of all federal income taxes in 2011, though they earned 45% of the the income.The bottom 50% paid 3% but earned 12% of the income. The top 1% pay more in taxes than 90%. That has nothing to do with democracy. That has to do with earning capacity and the tax laws. If you want more , go out and earn more. Something tells me that if you do go out and earn more, you're going to resent it if it's taken from you and given to someone you don't know who hasn't lifted a finger to earn it. From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 11:21 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again By the way, 330,000 Americans, the top one tenth of one percent, own as much wealth as the bottom 150 million Americans. Makes you sick, doesn't it? Seems like sci-fi, but it is a fact. We are owned by this incredibly tiny group of people. Call it what you want, but it *clearly* is not democracy, and to stay true to the principles of this country, that must change; it is evil, an absence of light in the country's soul. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote : Doesn't matter. I paid more proportionately than all of them did, because I can't take tax breaks, or off-shore jobs for profit, or pay lobbyists to lower my tax rate. And I am supposed to be GRATEFUL for being ripped off by this class of oligarchs?? Am I supposed to bow my head in gratitude because some of the wealthy are as unprincipled as beasts, actually worse? I don't know where you are picking up your 'second-class citizen' thinking Mike. The "rich fucks" (those specifically working hard to avoid paying their taxes) would be happy to see you working for a dollar a day, with no benefits. What do you owe them, and how have they brainwashed you so successfully? PS I grew up among the wealthy, and believe me, they are no more special or intelligent or thoughtful or generous than the rest of us citizens of the United States of America. Just ordinary folks with fat wallets and an obligation to this great country to pay their fair share. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Chances are, those rich fucks,pay more in taxes every year than you pay in a life time. They probably also spend more in a year then you will in a life time and they create lots of jobs for others to make money and pay taxes on as well. Are there crooks among them? Of course, just as there are crooks at every level on the economic scale from politicians to welfare cheats. Dude , it's kali yuga! You say the system is screwed.Yep, but who created the system. Politicians. Politicians we all elected. Politicians that promised us all what we wanted to hear. Politicians that buy our votes. They tell you what you want to hear, you elect them and then they do what they want and profit off what they created, leaving you the short end of the stick and you want to get even. So you elect them again and the beat goes on(modern day slavery)..BHO has nine months left and 1.1 trillion dollars to spend. He'll spend his time traveling while he can, seeing the world and blaming his failures on everyone else while he rules by executive order. When BHO was elected, he was probably worth a few hundred thousand and not off a Senate salary. He'll retire form office worth tens of millions, again not off of a Presidential salary. And are you any better off than you were eight years ago? From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 7:08 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again I don't despise people for being rich - I am doing quite well myself, thank you. What I have an issue with is the lies and fantasies we are told, to keep an economic system in place that rewards the few, and hurts the many - "trickle down economics". There will always be people who earn more than others. No problem. But the playing field must be even. You don't get to become too big to fail, nor do you get to avoid your taxes in a democracy. If you read what I have said consistently, I have never proposed communism, or any other political/economic system. No, but everyone must play by the rules. These rich fucks, stashing their money overseas, or having a deeply cynical attitude about this country, and feeling justified to not pay taxes like the rest of us, make me puke. Screw them, and if you align with that bunch, you deserve the same fate. No one enjoys being exploited, and the citizens of this country have had enough. Even Warren Buffett puts on a show of wishing his taxes were higher. (Clearly speaking out of both sides of his mouth, as he could freely donate his fair share to the Treasury at any time, but doesn't, as he injects himself wit
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And *who* determines their *fair share*, you? Why you and not them?Your proportionality doesn't do jack sh*t for anybody. Somebody paying 3% which amounts to hundreds of thousands or millions is far more advantageous than someone paying29% and only five or six thousand. If you don't like tax loopholes, blame your Congressmen and Senators, they created them and don't think that they don't take advantage of them as well. That's why(actually one reason) I like Cruz. He wants one low flat tax rate for everybody and no loopholes. It also makes him very unpopular with his colleagues because it hits them in their pocket books as well as the lobbyists. He genuinely wants to upset the apple cart. He's totally against federal subsidies for everything. The republican Governor for Iowa came out against him because he was against the corn/ethanol subsidy but when he explained that he was against all subsidies and corporate welfare, he ended up inning the caucus. The deal is, I don't owe anybody anything nor do they owe me anything. I also live by a creed in which I don't *covet* what other people have and have earned. From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 11:01 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again Doesn't matter. I paid more proportionately than all of them did, because I can't take tax breaks, or off-shore jobs for profit, or pay lobbyists to lower my tax rate. And I am supposed to be GRATEFUL for being ripped off by this class of oligarchs?? Am I supposed to bow my head in gratitude because some of the wealthy are as unprincipled as beasts, actually worse? I don't know where you are picking up your 'second-class citizen' thinking Mike. The "rich fucks" (those specifically working hard to avoid paying their taxes) would be happy to see you working for a dollar a day, with no benefits. What do you owe them, and how have they brainwashed you so successfully? PS I grew up among the wealthy, and believe me, they are no more special or intelligent or thoughtful or generous than the rest of us citizens of the United States of America. Just ordinary folks with fat wallets and an obligation to this great country to pay their fair share. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Chances are, those rich fucks,pay more in taxes every year than you pay in a life time. They probably also spend more in a year then you will in a life time and they create lots of jobs for others to make money and pay taxes on as well. Are there crooks among them? Of course, just as there are crooks at every level on the economic scale from politicians to welfare cheats. Dude , it's kali yuga! You say the system is screwed.Yep, but who created the system. Politicians. Politicians we all elected. Politicians that promised us all what we wanted to hear. Politicians that buy our votes. They tell you what you want to hear, you elect them and then they do what they want and profit off what they created, leaving you the short end of the stick and you want to get even. So you elect them again and the beat goes on(modern day slavery)..BHO has nine months left and 1.1 trillion dollars to spend. He'll spend his time traveling while he can, seeing the world and blaming his failures on everyone else while he rules by executive order. When BHO was elected, he was probably worth a few hundred thousand and not off a Senate salary. He'll retire form office worth tens of millions, again not off of a Presidential salary. And are you any better off than you were eight years ago? From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 7:08 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again I don't despise people for being rich - I am doing quite well myself, thank you. What I have an issue with is the lies and fantasies we are told, to keep an economic system in place that rewards the few, and hurts the many - "trickle down economics". There will always be people who earn more than others. No problem. But the playing field must be even. You don't get to become too big to fail, nor do you get to avoid your taxes in a democracy. If you read what I have said consistently, I have never proposed communism, or any other political/economic system. No, but everyone must play by the rules. These rich fucks, stashing their money overseas, or having a deeply cynical attitude about this country, and feeling justified to not pay taxes like the rest of us, make me puke. Screw them, and if you align with that bunch, you deserve the same fate. No one enjoys being exploited, and the citizens of this country have had enough. Even Warren Buffett puts on a show of wishing his taxes were higher. (Clearly speaking out of both sid
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By the way, 330,000 Americans, the top one tenth of one percent, own as much wealth as the bottom 150 million Americans. Makes you sick, doesn't it? Seems like sci-fi, but it is a fact. We are owned by this incredibly tiny group of people. Call it what you want, but it *clearly* is not democracy, and to stay true to the principles of this country, that must change; it is evil, an absence of light in the country's soul. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote : Doesn't matter. I paid more proportionately than all of them did, because I can't take tax breaks, or off-shore jobs for profit, or pay lobbyists to lower my tax rate. And I am supposed to be GRATEFUL for being ripped off by this class of oligarchs?? Am I supposed to bow my head in gratitude because some of the wealthy are as unprincipled as beasts, actually worse? I don't know where you are picking up your 'second-class citizen' thinking Mike. The "rich fucks" (those specifically working hard to avoid paying their taxes) would be happy to see you working for a dollar a day, with no benefits. What do you owe them, and how have they brainwashed you so successfully? PS I grew up among the wealthy, and believe me, they are no more special or intelligent or thoughtful or generous than the rest of us citizens of the United States of America. Just ordinary folks with fat wallets and an obligation to this great country to pay their fair share. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Chances are, those rich fucks,pay more in taxes every year than you pay in a life time. They probably also spend more in a year then you will in a life time and they create lots of jobs for others to make money and pay taxes on as well. Are there crooks among them? Of course, just as there are crooks at every level on the economic scale from politicians to welfare cheats. Dude , it's kali yuga! You say the system is screwed.Yep, but who created the system. Politicians. Politicians we all elected. Politicians that promised us all what we wanted to hear. Politicians that buy our votes. They tell you what you want to hear, you elect them and then they do what they want and profit off what they created, leaving you the short end of the stick and you want to get even. So you elect them again and the beat goes on(modern day slavery).. BHO has nine months left and 1.1 trillion dollars to spend. He'll spend his time traveling while he can, seeing the world and blaming his failures on everyone else while he rules by executive order. When BHO was elected, he was probably worth a few hundred thousand and not off a Senate salary. He'll retire form office worth tens of millions, again not off of a Presidential salary. And are you any better off than you were eight years ago? From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 7:08 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again I don't despise people for being rich - I am doing quite well myself, thank you. What I have an issue with is the lies and fantasies we are told, to keep an economic system in place that rewards the few, and hurts the many - "trickle down economics". There will always be people who earn more than others. No problem. But the playing field must be even. You don't get to become too big to fail, nor do you get to avoid your taxes in a democracy. If you read what I have said consistently, I have never proposed communism, or any other political/economic system. No, but everyone must play by the rules. These rich fucks, stashing their money overseas, or having a deeply cynical attitude about this country, and feeling justified to not pay taxes like the rest of us, make me puke. Screw them, and if you align with that bunch, you deserve the same fate. No one enjoys being exploited, and the citizens of this country have had enough. Even Warren Buffett puts on a show of wishing his taxes were higher. (Clearly speaking out of both sides of his mouth, as he could freely donate his fair share to the Treasury at any time, but doesn't, as he injects himself with more, more, more). I am proud to be an American, and I support the government, as messy as it can get. I absolutely despise those in government and outside it, who get their kicks from bashing it. It also tickles me to no end that President Barack Obama still has many months left in office. I'll bet Mitch McConnell drinks himself into a stupor every night, knowing that the next time he turns on the TV, the President will still be BLACK. The Civil War ended a long time ago, and the slave owners lost. Let's all make sure it stays that way. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : BTW Ollie, if it were not for those 1%er's you so despise, you probably wouldn't have Jack Shit!
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Doesn't matter. I paid more proportionately than all of them did, because I can't take tax breaks, or off-shore jobs for profit, or pay lobbyists to lower my tax rate. And I am supposed to be GRATEFUL for being ripped off by this class of oligarchs?? Am I supposed to bow my head in gratitude because some of the wealthy are as unprincipled as beasts, actually worse? I don't know where you are picking up your 'second-class citizen' thinking Mike. The "rich fucks" (those specifically working hard to avoid paying their taxes) would be happy to see you working for a dollar a day, with no benefits. What do you owe them, and how have they brainwashed you so successfully? PS I grew up among the wealthy, and believe me, they are no more special or intelligent or thoughtful or generous than the rest of us citizens of the United States of America. Just ordinary folks with fat wallets and an obligation to this great country to pay their fair share. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Chances are, those rich fucks,pay more in taxes every year than you pay in a life time. They probably also spend more in a year then you will in a life time and they create lots of jobs for others to make money and pay taxes on as well. Are there crooks among them? Of course, just as there are crooks at every level on the economic scale from politicians to welfare cheats. Dude , it's kali yuga! You say the system is screwed.Yep, but who created the system. Politicians. Politicians we all elected. Politicians that promised us all what we wanted to hear. Politicians that buy our votes. They tell you what you want to hear, you elect them and then they do what they want and profit off what they created, leaving you the short end of the stick and you want to get even. So you elect them again and the beat goes on(modern day slavery).. BHO has nine months left and 1.1 trillion dollars to spend. He'll spend his time traveling while he can, seeing the world and blaming his failures on everyone else while he rules by executive order. When BHO was elected, he was probably worth a few hundred thousand and not off a Senate salary. He'll retire form office worth tens of millions, again not off of a Presidential salary. And are you any better off than you were eight years ago? From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 7:08 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again I don't despise people for being rich - I am doing quite well myself, thank you. What I have an issue with is the lies and fantasies we are told, to keep an economic system in place that rewards the few, and hurts the many - "trickle down economics". There will always be people who earn more than others. No problem. But the playing field must be even. You don't get to become too big to fail, nor do you get to avoid your taxes in a democracy. If you read what I have said consistently, I have never proposed communism, or any other political/economic system. No, but everyone must play by the rules. These rich fucks, stashing their money overseas, or having a deeply cynical attitude about this country, and feeling justified to not pay taxes like the rest of us, make me puke. Screw them, and if you align with that bunch, you deserve the same fate. No one enjoys being exploited, and the citizens of this country have had enough. Even Warren Buffett puts on a show of wishing his taxes were higher. (Clearly speaking out of both sides of his mouth, as he could freely donate his fair share to the Treasury at any time, but doesn't, as he injects himself with more, more, more). I am proud to be an American, and I support the government, as messy as it can get. I absolutely despise those in government and outside it, who get their kicks from bashing it. It also tickles me to no end that President Barack Obama still has many months left in office. I'll bet Mitch McConnell drinks himself into a stupor every night, knowing that the next time he turns on the TV, the President will still be BLACK. The Civil War ended a long time ago, and the slave owners lost. Let's all make sure it stays that way. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : BTW Ollie, if it were not for those 1%er's you so despise, you probably wouldn't have Jack Shit! No job, no house /apartment, transportation, computer, television, electricity, food, cloths, medical care, education, political or legal representation. You'd probably be living under a totalitarian system like Pol Pot, or Kim Jung Un doing what they tell you to do as long as you are of any use to them. You certainly wouldn't be on the internet complaining about them. If you think Christ was anti capitalist you better re read your Bible(if you have one). Christ used one parable in which he desc
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : We are a nation of laws. One of Maharishi's favorite says was "well begun is half done". Violating a nations laws to get into the country is not "well begun". It is criminal. Get in line,apply for entry, wait their turn, let all *righteousness be fulfilled*(get vetted),be issued appropriate documents and they are welcomed. Oh Mikey, in terms of the illegal Mexicans, many States in the US need them, rely on them (as you can see if you read the article). Most of the horse industry in California depends upon the Mexicans to keep it alive whether it is hunters/jumpers or racehorses. The amount of landscapers, pool help, cleaning people and agricultural workers allow the State to run the way it does as a productive and thriving place. The well-heeled as well as the business owner in all sorts of industries positively need them. Whether they are papered or not is pretty much irrelevant to those who rely on this kind of labor. You can't have it both ways - resent the influx of illegals while at the same time profiting from their illegality by not giving them a living wage, health benefits or any of the other amenities that legal residents are privileged to receive. Being an illegal alien is not something anyone really wants because it means they are not afforded the same guarantees and rights that legals are. This applies to EVERYONE, even Muslims and Syrian refugees. The problem Syrian refugees face is that most are unable to be vetted because there are no records of who they are or their background.Were they Baathist Party members, criminals, did they take up arms against the United States or our allies? Nobody knows. A handful can be vetted to some extent. Persecuted Christians often belong to well established churches who's pastors have been able to vouch for them as members of their congregations and of any criminal complaints against them. However, Obama refuses to grant them refugee status because the Syrian government doesn't persecute them, only ISIS and Al Qaeda who rape, behead and crucify them. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 8:18 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Why do you think he's so popular? He was nothing until he brought up the *illegal*immigration issue. Cruz will get it done also. I think there was about seven hundred miles of fence built. The majority of illegals come through parts where there is no fence, Arizona to Texas. But a fence is not all that is needed. Increased border patrols, electronic monitoring( that includes seismic) , aircraft surveillance. We might as well be flagging them in. Border patrol doesn't even bother to pick them up and detain them.The courts don't even issue them summons to appear in court anymore. Check it out: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/09/18/careful-what-you-wish-for-here-s-what-california-would-look-like-without-illegal-immigrants.html http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/09/18/careful-what-you-wish-for-here-s-what-california-would-look-like-without-illegal-immigrants.html From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 11:43 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again "I would build a great wall, and nobody builds walls better than me, believe me, and I'll build them very inexpensively. I will build a great, great wall on our southern border. And I will have Mexico pay for that wall. Mark my words." Oh yes! I forgot that The Drumpf will get it done. Did you know there already is a fence along about a third of the border? It's not like we're waving the illegals in with flags, Mike.
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Chances are, those rich fucks,pay more in taxes every year than you pay in a life time. They probably also spend more in a year then you will in a life time and they create lots of jobs for others to make money and pay taxes on as well. Are there crooks among them? Of course, just as there are crooks at every level on the economic scale from politicians to welfare cheats. Dude , it's kali yuga! You say the system is screwed.Yep, but who created the system. Politicians. Politicians we all elected. Politicians that promised us all what we wanted to hear. Politicians that buy our votes. They tell you what you want to hear, you elect them and then they do what they want and profit off what they created, leaving you the short end of the stick and you want to get even. So you elect them again and the beat goes on(modern day slavery)..BHO has nine months left and 1.1 trillion dollars to spend. He'll spend his time traveling while he can, seeing the world and blaming his failures on everyone else while he rules by executive order. When BHO was elected, he was probably worth a few hundred thousand and not off a Senate salary. He'll retire form office worth tens of millions, again not off of a Presidential salary. And are you any better off than you were eight years ago? From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 7:08 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again I don't despise people for being rich - I am doing quite well myself, thank you. What I have an issue with is the lies and fantasies we are told, to keep an economic system in place that rewards the few, and hurts the many - "trickle down economics". There will always be people who earn more than others. No problem. But the playing field must be even. You don't get to become too big to fail, nor do you get to avoid your taxes in a democracy. If you read what I have said consistently, I have never proposed communism, or any other political/economic system. No, but everyone must play by the rules. These rich fucks, stashing their money overseas, or having a deeply cynical attitude about this country, and feeling justified to not pay taxes like the rest of us, make me puke. Screw them, and if you align with that bunch, you deserve the same fate. No one enjoys being exploited, and the citizens of this country have had enough. Even Warren Buffett puts on a show of wishing his taxes were higher. (Clearly speaking out of both sides of his mouth, as he could freely donate his fair share to the Treasury at any time, but doesn't, as he injects himself with more, more, more). I am proud to be an American, and I support the government, as messy as it can get. I absolutely despise those in government and outside it, who get their kicks from bashing it. It also tickles me to no end that President Barack Obama still has many months left in office. I'll bet Mitch McConnell drinks himself into a stupor every night, knowing that the next time he turns on the TV, the President will still be BLACK. The Civil War ended a long time ago, and the slave owners lost. Let's all make sure it stays that way. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : BTW Ollie, if it were not for those 1%er's you so despise, you probably wouldn't have Jack Shit! No job, no house /apartment, transportation, computer, television, electricity, food, cloths, medical care, education, political or legal representation. You'd probably be living under a totalitarian system like Pol Pot, or Kim Jung Un doing what they tell you to do as long as you are of any use to them. You certainly wouldn't be on the internet complaining about them. If you think Christ was anti capitalist you better re read your Bible(if you have one). Christ used one parable in which he described a wealthy man that divided his fortune up to be managed by three servants while he was away on a long trip. When the man returned he wanted to know what each servant did with the money that he gave him to take care of. One man invested and increased the fortune, the other tried but lost it all, the last man buried his share and returned it to the master when he came home. The man congratulated the one that increased his fortune, the one that lost it was recognized as at least having tried, but the one that buried it and returned it all was scolded for missing out on an opportunity to do something with what he had been provided. From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again We have accepted millions of Vietnamese, Mexicans, Central Americans and others. No big deal. The real problem this country faces is the entrenched racism and xenophobia, much of w
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The terrorists are already here, entrenched with numerous positions in banking, industry and government. Hint, hint, it ain't the syrians, arabs, iranians, iraqis, or any other Muslims. All you xenophobes are terrified by outside influences while the second largest terrorist attack on US soil was caused by an ex-military white guy. I'll say it again, "An ex-military white guy". Who vetted *that* guy?? Speaking of who comes and who goes, perhaps those moronic radical preachers telling their flocks that TM and its peaceful influence is demonic ought to think about their negative influence on this country and GTFO. The only thing 'born again' about those yokels is their ego. They probably get reborn as North Koreans anyway. lol ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : It doesn't matter how intense something is if it is incomplete! From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again Mike, please read this article. Here is some of it. REALITY CHECK, MIKE, REALITY CHECK COMING YOUR WAY! Have a good week. I recommend the book "The Middle Way" by Thich Nhat Hanh for you. And, no, the Middle Way doesn't mean taking a position in the "middle." "Every refugee goes through an intensive vetting process, but the precautions are increased for Syrians. Multiple law enforcement, intelligence and security agencies perform “the most rigorous screening of any traveler to the U.S.,” says a senior administration official. Among the agencies involved are the State Department, the FBI’s Terrorist Screening Center, the Department of Defense and the Department of Homeland Security. A DHS officer conducts in-person interviews with every applicant. Biometric information such as fingerprints are collected and matched against criminal databases. Biographical information such as past visa applications are scrutinized to ensure the applicant’s story coheres. What percentage of applicants “pass” the screening process? Just over 50%. How long does the whole process take? Eighteen to 24 months on average. How many have been resettled here? About 1,800 over the past year. They’ve been placed in dozens of states across the country, but most are in big states with large immigrant populations, such as California, Texas, Illinois and Michigan. Who are they? According to a senior administration official, roughly half the refugees admitted have been children. Around 25% are adults over 60. Only 2% of those admitted, the senior administration official said, have been single males of “combat age.” This Is How the Syrian Refugee Screening Process Works http://time.com/4116619/syrian-refugees-screening-process/ http://time.com/4116619/syrian-refugees-screening-process/ This Is How the Syrian Refugee Screening Proces... http://time.com/4116619/syrian-refugees-screening-process/ It takes 18 to 24 months. View on time.com http://time.com/4116619/syrian-refugees-screening-process/ Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Emily, are you not understanding that the FBI has said that they can not properly vet these refugees? From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 11:35 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again Did I say I wanted open borders? No, I didn't. Did I say I wanted to exclude whole populations? No I didn't By the way, the bill for potential "refugees" is considering refugees from all over the world, not just Syria. How many refugees does the United States admit? Each year the President, in consultation with Congress, determines the numerical ceiling for refugee admissions. For Fiscal Year (FY) 2016, the proposed ceiling is 85,000 http://www.state.gov/j/prm/releases/docsforcongress/247770.htm. Refugee Ceilings and Admitted Refugees to the United States, FY 2009-2015 (Source: Refugee Processing Center http://www.wrapsnet.org/Reports/AdmissionsArrivals) Over one-third of all refugee arrivals (35.1 percent http://www.wrapsnet.org/Reports/AdmissionsArrivals, or 24,579) in FY 2015 came from the Near East/South Asia—a region that includes Iraq, Iran, Bhutan, and Afghanistan. Another third of all refugee arrivals (32.1 percent, or 22,472) in FY 2015 came from Africa. Over a quarter of all refugee arrivals (26.4 percent, or 18,469) in FY 2015 came from East Asia — a region that includes China, Vietnam, and Indonesia. Are you not understanding that the majority of Syrian refugees applying are women and children? Are you not understanding that it is a vetting process that takes up to TWO YEARS as currently structure
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I don't despise people for being rich - I am doing quite well myself, thank you. What I have an issue with is the lies and fantasies we are told, to keep an economic system in place that rewards the few, and hurts the many - "trickle down economics". There will always be people who earn more than others. No problem. But the playing field must be even. You don't get to become too big to fail, nor do you get to avoid your taxes in a democracy. If you read what I have said consistently, I have never proposed communism, or any other political/economic system. No, but everyone must play by the rules. These rich fucks, stashing their money overseas, or having a deeply cynical attitude about this country, and feeling justified to not pay taxes like the rest of us, make me puke. Screw them, and if you align with that bunch, you deserve the same fate. No one enjoys being exploited, and the citizens of this country have had enough. Even Warren Buffett puts on a show of wishing his taxes were higher. (Clearly speaking out of both sides of his mouth, as he could freely donate his fair share to the Treasury at any time, but doesn't, as he injects himself with more, more, more). I am proud to be an American, and I support the government, as messy as it can get. I absolutely despise those in government and outside it, who get their kicks from bashing it. It also tickles me to no end that President Barack Obama still has many months left in office. I'll bet Mitch McConnell drinks himself into a stupor every night, knowing that the next time he turns on the TV, the President will still be BLACK. The Civil War ended a long time ago, and the slave owners lost. Let's all make sure it stays that way. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : BTW Ollie, if it were not for those 1%er's you so despise, you probably wouldn't have Jack Shit! No job, no house /apartment, transportation, computer, television, electricity, food, cloths, medical care, education, political or legal representation. You'd probably be living under a totalitarian system like Pol Pot, or Kim Jung Un doing what they tell you to do as long as you are of any use to them. You certainly wouldn't be on the internet complaining about them. If you think Christ was anti capitalist you better re read your Bible(if you have one). Christ used one parable in which he described a wealthy man that divided his fortune up to be managed by three servants while he was away on a long trip. When the man returned he wanted to know what each servant did with the money that he gave him to take care of. One man invested and increased the fortune, the other tried but lost it all, the last man buried his share and returned it to the master when he came home. The man congratulated the one that increased his fortune, the one that lost it was recognized as at least having tried, but the one that buried it and returned it all was scolded for missing out on an opportunity to do something with what he had been provided. From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again We have accepted millions of Vietnamese, Mexicans, Central Americans and others. No big deal. The real problem this country faces is the entrenched racism and xenophobia, much of which is being directed at our current president. These are not Christian ideas, or well-thought out principles being expressed - it is rank ignorance, arrogance and fear. The current economic nightmare we are facing has NOTHING to do with minorites and immigrants, but rather legislation passed mainly by a bunch of old rich white guys. They are the enemy and the ones who should be expelled from this great country. The one percenter, anti-job, anti-equality, anti-government radicals are the ones destroying this country a hell of a lot more effectively than ISIS or any other Islamic organization could. Jesus would be deeply ashamed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Right, there is *intent* to play the emotions, especially when you show bloodied children and lifeless bodies. What's the saying... A picture is worth a thousand words. The the next step is that we have to bring them all here into our communities or we are heartless bastards. Just as you predictably pointed out, the excuse is, *They will enrich our communities with diversity* That's just pure BS! There is no way to accurately vet who is coming, what their intent is, how or even if, they will adapt to a foreign culture. Meanwhile, ISIS is infiltrating the ranks of genuine refugees, intent on doing as much harm as they can. Other refugees, not all mind you, who may not be terrorists are exactly what liberals proclaim to hate... violent, misogynistic, homophobic , anti -Semitic,
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It doesn't matter how intense something is if it is incomplete! From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again Mike, please read this article. Here is some of it. REALITY CHECK, MIKE, REALITY CHECK COMING YOUR WAY! Have a good week. I recommend the book "The Middle Way" by Thich Nhat Hanh for you. And, no, the Middle Way doesn't mean taking a position in the "middle." "Every refugee goes through an intensive vetting process, but the precautions are increased for Syrians. Multiple law enforcement, intelligence and security agencies perform “the most rigorous screening of any traveler to the U.S.,” says a senior administration official. Among the agencies involved are the State Department, the FBI’s Terrorist Screening Center, the Department of Defense and the Department of Homeland Security. A DHS officer conducts in-person interviews with every applicant. Biometric information such as fingerprints are collected and matched against criminal databases. Biographical information such as past visa applications are scrutinized to ensure the applicant’s story coheres.What percentage of applicants “pass” the screening process?Just over 50%.How long does the whole process take? Eighteen to 24 months on average.How many have been resettled here? About 1,800 over the past year. They’ve been placed in dozens of states across the country, but most are in big states with large immigrant populations, such as California, Texas, Illinois and Michigan.Who are they?According to a senior administration official, roughly half the refugees admitted have been children. Around 25% are adults over 60. Only 2% of those admitted, the senior administration official said, have been single males of “combat age.”This Is How the Syrian Refugee Screening Process Works || |||| This Is How the Syrian Refugee Screening Proces... It takes 18 to 24 months.|| | View on time.com |Preview by Yahoo| || ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Emily, are you not understanding that the FBI has said that they can not properly vet these refugees? From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 11:35 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again Did I say I wanted open borders? No, I didn't. Did I say I wanted to exclude whole populations? No I didn't By the way, the bill for potential "refugees" is considering refugees from all over the world, not just Syria. How many refugees does the United States admit? Each year the President, in consultation with Congress, determines the numerical ceiling for refugee admissions. For Fiscal Year (FY) 2016, the proposed ceiling is 85,000. Refugee Ceilings and Admitted Refugees to the United States, FY 2009-2015 (Source: Refugee Processing Center) - Over one-third of all refugee arrivals (35.1 percent, or 24,579) in FY 2015 came from the Near East/South Asia—a region that includes Iraq, Iran, Bhutan, and Afghanistan. - Another third of all refugee arrivals (32.1 percent, or 22,472) in FY 2015 came from Africa. - Over a quarter of all refugee arrivals (26.4 percent, or 18,469) in FY 2015 came from East Asia — a region that includes China, Vietnam, and Indonesia. Are you not understanding that the majority of Syrian refugees applying are women and children? Are you not understanding that it is a vetting process that takes up to TWO YEARS as currently structured? Mike, these are the facts! What are you making up in your head? Yes, ISIS is a terrorist group and they are engaging in terrorist activities and it's a real bummer for everyone. I am sure that we will do our best as a nation to keep terrorists out. As we are doing currently. Honestly, Mike, I believe strongly we need to take stock of our domestic situation. My priorities are different though. Building a wall for billions and billions of dollars is not even on the list. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : The latest Omnibus spending bill has funding for up to 300,000 refugees over the next few years. Doesn't mean there will be that many but the potential is there.The FBI has said there is no way to thoroughly vet these refugees. There are no public records available on them. All public records in Syria have been destroyed due to the war. ISIS also captured a passport office in Syria and has thousands of blank Passports. ISIS has openly threatened to send their people here as they have done in Europe. There is no point in admitting people here if we don't know who they are and the FBI has admitted there is no way to
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dailycaller.com/2015/10/21/fbi-director-admits-us-cant-vet-all-syrian-refugees-for-terror-ties-video/ | | | | || | | | | | FBI Director Admits US Can’t Vet All Syrian Refugees For Terror Ties [VIDEO] FBI director James Comey said during a House Committee on Homeland Security hearing on Wednesday that the federa... | | | | Enjoy From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again I am reposting this as my prior post didn't come through. Doug, did you delete my post or was it a Yahoo thing? I will eliminate the caps in my statement this time. "Mike, please read this. A reality check for you." And, in my prior post, I recommended a book for you, but I will resist the impulse this time. Have a good week. This Is How the Syrian Refugee Screening Process Works || |||| This Is How the Syrian Refugee Screening Proces... It takes 18 to 24 months.|| | View on time.com |Preview by Yahoo| || ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Emily, are you not understanding that the FBI has said that they can not properly vet these refugees? From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 11:35 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again Did I say I wanted open borders? No, I didn't. Did I say I wanted to exclude whole populations? No I didn't By the way, the bill for potential "refugees" is considering refugees from all over the world, not just Syria. How many refugees does the United States admit? Each year the President, in consultation with Congress, determines the numerical ceiling for refugee admissions. For Fiscal Year (FY) 2016, the proposed ceiling is 85,000. Refugee Ceilings and Admitted Refugees to the United States, FY 2009-2015 (Source: Refugee Processing Center) - Over one-third of all refugee arrivals (35.1 percent, or 24,579) in FY 2015 came from the Near East/South Asia—a region that includes Iraq, Iran, Bhutan, and Afghanistan. - Another third of all refugee arrivals (32.1 percent, or 22,472) in FY 2015 came from Africa. - Over a quarter of all refugee arrivals (26.4 percent, or 18,469) in FY 2015 came from East Asia — a region that includes China, Vietnam, and Indonesia. Are you not understanding that the majority of Syrian refugees applying are women and children? Are you not understanding that it is a vetting process that takes up to TWO YEARS as currently structured? Mike, these are the facts! What are you making up in your head? Yes, ISIS is a terrorist group and they are engaging in terrorist activities and it's a real bummer for everyone. I am sure that we will do our best as a nation to keep terrorists out. As we are doing currently. Honestly, Mike, I believe strongly we need to take stock of our domestic situation. My priorities are different though. Building a wall for billions and billions of dollars is not even on the list. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : The latest Omnibus spending bill has funding for up to 300,000 refugees over the next few years. Doesn't mean there will be that many but the potential is there.The FBI has said there is no way to thoroughly vet these refugees. There are no public records available on them. All public records in Syria have been destroyed due to the war. ISIS also captured a passport office in Syria and has thousands of blank Passports. ISIS has openly threatened to send their people here as they have done in Europe. There is no point in admitting people here if we don't know who they are and the FBI has admitted there is no way to really know who each refugee is. As for a wall, so you want open borders. Let Mexico and central America send anyone and everyone( you did say whole populations, didn't you) they want with no restraints. WTF wouldn't come?Why not several hundred million Indians and Chinese?With populations in the billions, they wouldn't miss a few. I bet they need jobs and just want to improve their lives also. Why even bother to make them come here to improve their lives? Why not just tax the hell out of everybody here and send the money to people in their native countries where the dollars will go further? Better yet, if you want to be *enriched* by their cultures , why don't you just go live with them. From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 9:53 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again You and I support the same thing theoretically; I support a *control
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Well mark that one down as another we can agree on!
From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again
On 03/28/2016 08:21 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
We are a nation of laws.
And WAY too many of them. We need one more new law: for every new law passed
two old ones need to be retired. Won't happen because lawyers use outdated laws
to win their cases. Should read:
We are a nation tangled mess of laws.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again
Mike, please read this article. Here is some of it. REALITY CHECK, MIKE, REALITY CHECK COMING YOUR WAY! Have a good week. I recommend the book "The Middle Way" by Thich Nhat Hanh for you. And, no, the Middle Way doesn't mean taking a position in the "middle." "Every refugee goes through an intensive vetting process, but the precautions are increased for Syrians. Multiple law enforcement, intelligence and security agencies perform “the most rigorous screening of any traveler to the U.S.,” says a senior administration official. Among the agencies involved are the State Department, the FBI’s Terrorist Screening Center, the Department of Defense and the Department of Homeland Security. A DHS officer conducts in-person interviews with every applicant. Biometric information such as fingerprints are collected and matched against criminal databases. Biographical information such as past visa applications are scrutinized to ensure the applicant’s story coheres. What percentage of applicants “pass” the screening process? Just over 50%. How long does the whole process take? Eighteen to 24 months on average. How many have been resettled here? About 1,800 over the past year. They’ve been placed in dozens of states across the country, but most are in big states with large immigrant populations, such as California, Texas, Illinois and Michigan. Who are they? According to a senior administration official, roughly half the refugees admitted have been children. Around 25% are adults over 60. Only 2% of those admitted, the senior administration official said, have been single males of “combat age.” This Is How the Syrian Refugee Screening Process Works http://time.com/4116619/syrian-refugees-screening-process/ http://time.com/4116619/syrian-refugees-screening-process/ This Is How the Syrian Refugee Screening Proces... http://time.com/4116619/syrian-refugees-screening-process/ It takes 18 to 24 months. View on time.com http://time.com/4116619/syrian-refugees-screening-process/ Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Emily, are you not understanding that the FBI has said that they can not properly vet these refugees? From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 11:35 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again Did I say I wanted open borders? No, I didn't. Did I say I wanted to exclude whole populations? No I didn't By the way, the bill for potential "refugees" is considering refugees from all over the world, not just Syria. How many refugees does the United States admit? Each year the President, in consultation with Congress, determines the numerical ceiling for refugee admissions. For Fiscal Year (FY) 2016, the proposed ceiling is 85,000 http://www.state.gov/j/prm/releases/docsforcongress/247770.htm. Refugee Ceilings and Admitted Refugees to the United States, FY 2009-2015 (Source: Refugee Processing Center http://www.wrapsnet.org/Reports/AdmissionsArrivals) Over one-third of all refugee arrivals (35.1 percent http://www.wrapsnet.org/Reports/AdmissionsArrivals, or 24,579) in FY 2015 came from the Near East/South Asia—a region that includes Iraq, Iran, Bhutan, and Afghanistan. Another third of all refugee arrivals (32.1 percent, or 22,472) in FY 2015 came from Africa. Over a quarter of all refugee arrivals (26.4 percent, or 18,469) in FY 2015 came from East Asia — a region that includes China, Vietnam, and Indonesia. Are you not understanding that the majority of Syrian refugees applying are women and children? Are you not understanding that it is a vetting process that takes up to TWO YEARS as currently structured? Mike, these are the facts! What are you making up in your head? Yes, ISIS is a terrorist group and they are engaging in terrorist activities and it's a real bummer for everyone. I am sure that we will do our best as a nation to keep terrorists out. As we are doing currently. Honestly, Mike, I believe strongly we need to take stock of our domestic situation. My priorities are different though. Building a wall for billions and billions of dollars is not even on the list. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : The latest Omnibus spending bill has funding for up to 300,000 refugees over the next few years. Doesn't mean there will be that many but the potential is there.The FBI has said there is no way to thoroughly vet these refugees. There are no public records available on them. All public records in Syria have been destroyed due to the war. ISIS also captured a passport office in Syria and has thousands of blank Passports. ISIS has openly threatened to send their people here as they have done in Europe. There is no point in admit
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I am reposting this as my prior post didn't come through. Doug, did you delete my post or was it a Yahoo thing? I will eliminate the caps in my statement this time. "Mike, please read this. A reality check for you." And, in my prior post, I recommended a book for you, but I will resist the impulse this time. Have a good week. This Is How the Syrian Refugee Screening Process Works http://time.com/4116619/syrian-refugees-screening-process/ http://time.com/4116619/syrian-refugees-screening-process/ This Is How the Syrian Refugee Screening Proces... http://time.com/4116619/syrian-refugees-screening-process/ It takes 18 to 24 months. View on time.com http://time.com/4116619/syrian-refugees-screening-process/ Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Emily, are you not understanding that the FBI has said that they can not properly vet these refugees? From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 11:35 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again Did I say I wanted open borders? No, I didn't. Did I say I wanted to exclude whole populations? No I didn't By the way, the bill for potential "refugees" is considering refugees from all over the world, not just Syria. How many refugees does the United States admit? Each year the President, in consultation with Congress, determines the numerical ceiling for refugee admissions. For Fiscal Year (FY) 2016, the proposed ceiling is 85,000 http://www.state.gov/j/prm/releases/docsforcongress/247770.htm. Refugee Ceilings and Admitted Refugees to the United States, FY 2009-2015 (Source: Refugee Processing Center http://www.wrapsnet.org/Reports/AdmissionsArrivals) Over one-third of all refugee arrivals (35.1 percent http://www.wrapsnet.org/Reports/AdmissionsArrivals, or 24,579) in FY 2015 came from the Near East/South Asia—a region that includes Iraq, Iran, Bhutan, and Afghanistan. Another third of all refugee arrivals (32.1 percent, or 22,472) in FY 2015 came from Africa. Over a quarter of all refugee arrivals (26.4 percent, or 18,469) in FY 2015 came from East Asia — a region that includes China, Vietnam, and Indonesia. Are you not understanding that the majority of Syrian refugees applying are women and children? Are you not understanding that it is a vetting process that takes up to TWO YEARS as currently structured? Mike, these are the facts! What are you making up in your head? Yes, ISIS is a terrorist group and they are engaging in terrorist activities and it's a real bummer for everyone. I am sure that we will do our best as a nation to keep terrorists out. As we are doing currently. Honestly, Mike, I believe strongly we need to take stock of our domestic situation. My priorities are different though. Building a wall for billions and billions of dollars is not even on the list. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : The latest Omnibus spending bill has funding for up to 300,000 refugees over the next few years. Doesn't mean there will be that many but the potential is there.The FBI has said there is no way to thoroughly vet these refugees. There are no public records available on them. All public records in Syria have been destroyed due to the war. ISIS also captured a passport office in Syria and has thousands of blank Passports. ISIS has openly threatened to send their people here as they have done in Europe. There is no point in admitting people here if we don't know who they are and the FBI has admitted there is no way to really know who each refugee is. As for a wall, so you want open borders. Let Mexico and central America send anyone and everyone( you did say whole populations, didn't you) they want with no restraints. WTF wouldn't come?Why not several hundred million Indians and Chinese?With populations in the billions, they wouldn't miss a few. I bet they need jobs and just want to improve their lives also. Why even bother to make them come here to improve their lives? Why not just tax the hell out of everybody here and send the money to people in their native countries where the dollars will go further? Better yet, if you want to be *enriched* by their cultures , why don't you just go live with them. From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 9:53 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again You and I support the same thing theoretically; I support a *controlled* entry and exit of foreigners also. Absolutely. SO DOES THE UNITED STATES. It's why I carry a passport when I travel; other countries do too. We can't be the world's safety net and we aren't, with respect to the
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On 03/28/2016 08:21 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: We are a nation of laws. And WAY too many of them. We need one more new law: for every new law passed two old ones need to be retired. Won't happen because lawyers use outdated laws to win their cases. Should read: We are a nation tangled mess of laws.
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We are a nation of laws. One of Maharishi's favorite says was "well begun is
half done".Violating a nations laws to get into the country is not "well
begun". It is criminal.
Get in line,apply for entry, wait their turn, let all *righteousness be
fulfilled*(get vetted),be issued appropriate documents and they are welcomed.
This applies to EVERYONE, even Muslims and Syrian refugees.The problem Syrian
refugees face is that most are unable to be vetted because there are no records
of who they are or their background.Were they Baathist Party members,
criminals, did they take up arms against the United States or our allies?
Nobody knows. A handful can be vetted to some extent. Persecuted Christians
often belong to well established churches who's pastors have been able to vouch
for them as members of their congregations and of any criminal complaints
against them. However, Obama refuses to grant them refugee status because the
Syrian government doesn't persecute them, only ISIS and Al Qaeda who rape,
behead and crucify them.
From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 8:18 AM
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :
Why do you think he's so popular? He was nothing until he brought up the
*illegal*immigration issue.
Cruz will get it done also.
I think there was about seven hundred miles of fence built. The majority of
illegals come through parts where there is no fence, Arizona to Texas. But a
fence is not all that is needed. Increased border patrols, electronic
monitoring( that includes seismic) , aircraft surveillance. We might as well be
flagging them in. Border patrol doesn't even bother to pick them up and
detain them.The courts don't even issue them summons to appear in court anymore.
Check it
out:http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/09/18/careful-what-you-wish-for-here-s-what-california-would-look-like-without-illegal-immigrants.html
From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 11:43 PM
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"I would build a great wall, and nobody builds walls better than me, believe
me, and I'll build them very inexpensively. I will build a great, great wall on
our southern border. And I will have Mexico pay for that wall. Mark my words."
Oh yes! I forgot that The Drumpf will get it done. Did you know there already
is a fence along about a third of the border? It's not like we're waving the
illegals in with flags, Mike.
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Why do you think he's so popular? He was nothing until he brought up the *illegal*immigration issue. Cruz will get it done also. I think there was about seven hundred miles of fence built. The majority of illegals come through parts where there is no fence, Arizona to Texas. But a fence is not all that is needed. Increased border patrols, electronic monitoring( that includes seismic) , aircraft surveillance. We might as well be flagging them in. Border patrol doesn't even bother to pick them up and detain them.The courts don't even issue them summons to appear in court anymore. Check it out: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/09/18/careful-what-you-wish-for-here-s-what-california-would-look-like-without-illegal-immigrants.html http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/09/18/careful-what-you-wish-for-here-s-what-california-would-look-like-without-illegal-immigrants.html From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 11:43 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again "I would build a great wall, and nobody builds walls better than me, believe me, and I'll build them very inexpensively. I will build a great, great wall on our southern border. And I will have Mexico pay for that wall. Mark my words." Oh yes! I forgot that The Drumpf will get it done. Did you know there already is a fence along about a third of the border? It's not like we're waving the illegals in with flags, Mike.
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Emily, are you not understanding that the FBI has said that they can not properly vet these refugees? From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 11:35 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again Did I say I wanted open borders? No, I didn't. Did I say I wanted to exclude whole populations? No I didn't By the way, the bill for potential "refugees" is considering refugees from all over the world, not just Syria. How many refugees does the United States admit? Each year the President, in consultation with Congress, determines the numerical ceiling for refugee admissions. For Fiscal Year (FY) 2016, the proposed ceiling is 85,000. Refugee Ceilings and Admitted Refugees to the United States, FY 2009-2015 (Source: Refugee Processing Center) - Over one-third of all refugee arrivals (35.1 percent, or 24,579) in FY 2015 came from the Near East/South Asia—a region that includes Iraq, Iran, Bhutan, and Afghanistan. - Another third of all refugee arrivals (32.1 percent, or 22,472) in FY 2015 came from Africa. - Over a quarter of all refugee arrivals (26.4 percent, or 18,469) in FY 2015 came from East Asia — a region that includes China, Vietnam, and Indonesia. Are you not understanding that the majority of Syrian refugees applying are women and children? Are you not understanding that it is a vetting process that takes up to TWO YEARS as currently structured? Mike, these are the facts! What are you making up in your head? Yes, ISIS is a terrorist group and they are engaging in terrorist activities and it's a real bummer for everyone. I am sure that we will do our best as a nation to keep terrorists out. As we are doing currently. Honestly, Mike, I believe strongly we need to take stock of our domestic situation. My priorities are different though. Building a wall for billions and billions of dollars is not even on the list. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : The latest Omnibus spending bill has funding for up to 300,000 refugees over the next few years. Doesn't mean there will be that many but the potential is there.The FBI has said there is no way to thoroughly vet these refugees. There are no public records available on them. All public records in Syria have been destroyed due to the war. ISIS also captured a passport office in Syria and has thousands of blank Passports. ISIS has openly threatened to send their people here as they have done in Europe. There is no point in admitting people here if we don't know who they are and the FBI has admitted there is no way to really know who each refugee is. As for a wall, so you want open borders. Let Mexico and central America send anyone and everyone( you did say whole populations, didn't you) they want with no restraints. WTF wouldn't come?Why not several hundred million Indians and Chinese?With populations in the billions, they wouldn't miss a few. I bet they need jobs and just want to improve their lives also. Why even bother to make them come here to improve their lives? Why not just tax the hell out of everybody here and send the money to people in their native countries where the dollars will go further? Better yet, if you want to be *enriched* by their cultures , why don't you just go live with them. From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 9:53 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again You and I support the same thing theoretically; I support a *controlled* entry and exit of foreigners also. Absolutely. SO DOES THE UNITED STATES. It's why I carry a passport when I travel; other countries do too. We can't be the world's safety net and we aren't, with respect to the Syrian refugees. Remember that Obama, whom you despise doesn't think we should be the world's policeman either and has been working to build coalitions from the get go in the Middle East. This what is so funny to me. LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, MIKE (It's in the fact sheet I posted to you) and try and convince me there are hundreds of thousands of Syrian refugees, every one a potential terrorist, invading our borders unfairly. The majority are staying in the Middle East, first of all. "A total of 2,290 Syrian refugees have arrived in the United States since fiscal year 2011, which is when the Syrian civil war began, through Nov. 20, according to the State Department’s Refugee Processing Center. “It’s very important for people to know there’s a big, big difference between the relative chaotic scene we’ve seen played out in Europe and the resettlement process in the United States,” Boian said." "The way it works is that after the State Department has approved a refugee for resettlement in th
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Did I say I wanted open borders? No, I didn't. Did I say I wanted to exclude whole populations? No I didn't By the way, the bill for potential "refugees" is considering refugees from all over the world, not just Syria. How many refugees does the United States admit? Each year the President, in consultation with Congress, determines the numerical ceiling for refugee admissions. For Fiscal Year (FY) 2016, the proposed ceiling is 85,000 http://www.state.gov/j/prm/releases/docsforcongress/247770.htm. Refugee Ceilings and Admitted Refugees to the United States, FY 2009-2015 (Source: Refugee Processing Center http://www.wrapsnet.org/Reports/AdmissionsArrivals) Over one-third of all refugee arrivals (35.1 percent http://www.wrapsnet.org/Reports/AdmissionsArrivals, or 24,579) in FY 2015 came from the Near East/South Asia—a region that includes Iraq, Iran, Bhutan, and Afghanistan. Another third of all refugee arrivals (32.1 percent, or 22,472) in FY 2015 came from Africa. Over a quarter of all refugee arrivals (26.4 percent, or 18,469) in FY 2015 came from East Asia — a region that includes China, Vietnam, and Indonesia. Are you not understanding that the majority of Syrian refugees applying are women and children? Are you not understanding that it is a vetting process that takes up to TWO YEARS as currently structured? Mike, these are the facts! What are you making up in your head? Yes, ISIS is a terrorist group and they are engaging in terrorist activities and it's a real bummer for everyone. I am sure that we will do our best as a nation to keep terrorists out. As we are doing currently. Honestly, Mike, I believe strongly we need to take stock of our domestic situation. My priorities are different though. Building a wall for billions and billions of dollars is not even on the list. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : The latest Omnibus spending bill has funding for up to 300,000 refugees over the next few years. Doesn't mean there will be that many but the potential is there.The FBI has said there is no way to thoroughly vet these refugees. There are no public records available on them. All public records in Syria have been destroyed due to the war. ISIS also captured a passport office in Syria and has thousands of blank Passports. ISIS has openly threatened to send their people here as they have done in Europe. There is no point in admitting people here if we don't know who they are and the FBI has admitted there is no way to really know who each refugee is. As for a wall, so you want open borders. Let Mexico and central America send anyone and everyone( you did say whole populations, didn't you) they want with no restraints. WTF wouldn't come?Why not several hundred million Indians and Chinese?With populations in the billions, they wouldn't miss a few. I bet they need jobs and just want to improve their lives also. Why even bother to make them come here to improve their lives? Why not just tax the hell out of everybody here and send the money to people in their native countries where the dollars will go further? Better yet, if you want to be *enriched* by their cultures , why don't you just go live with them. From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 9:53 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again You and I support the same thing theoretically; I support a *controlled* entry and exit of foreigners also. Absolutely. SO DOES THE UNITED STATES. It's why I carry a passport when I travel; other countries do too. We can't be the world's safety net and we aren't, with respect to the Syrian refugees. Remember that Obama, whom you despise doesn't think we should be the world's policeman either and has been working to build coalitions from the get go in the Middle East. This what is so funny to me. LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, MIKE (It's in the fact sheet I posted to you) and try and convince me there are hundreds of thousands of Syrian refugees, every one a potential terrorist, invading our borders unfairly. The majority are staying in the Middle East, first of all. "A total of 2,290 Syrian refugees have arrived in the United States since fiscal year 2011, which is when the Syrian civil war began https://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RL33487.pdf, through Nov. 20, according to the State Department’s Refugee Processing Center http://www.wrapsnet.org/Reports/InteractiveReporting/tabid/393/EnumType/Report/Default.aspx?ItemPath=/rpt_WebArrivalsReports/MX%20-%20Arrivals%20by%20Nationality%20and%20Religion. “It’s very important for people to know there’s a big, big difference between the relative chaotic scene we’ve seen played out in Europe and the resettlement process in the United States,” Boian said." "The
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Whatever it takes. BTW, I would tax every bank transfer under a predetermined amount from the US to Mexico or Central America. That way, the illegals will contribute to pay for the wall. From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 10:01 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again Mike, I wish you peace of mind and equanimity. P.S. Don't you think the wall should be built the same height below as above the surface? Get out your pocketbook Mike and determine how much of your savings/retirement you are willing to contribute. Me, I'll take my chances. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : There is no job that a Latin American will do, that some American citizen wouldn't do if paid adequately for. When you swim across a river or hike through a desert, avoiding immigration authorities to enter a country, have fake identification , using false Social Security numbers to get jobs, you have avoided all controls.The tunnels are an example of NO CONTROLS! That is why I support a wall, a magnificent wall! It might not stop all illegal trafficking but it sure would slow it to a trickle if done right. From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 4:38 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again Ha ha Mike...what jobs have they undercut for Americans? Oh, the cheap migrant labor jobs that no American citizen will do? They hold down wages? That's hysterical!! Boy, you sure are giving a lot of power to these poor migrant workers. What about outsourcing by corporations? Who said there were no controls in place? You? Drugs are coming in illegally, controls or no controls. Read about the latest tunnel discovered? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : We owed a home to the Vietnamese that came here. They pretty much served with our military while we were there. They have adapted and assimilated well. The overwhelming majority of Mexican and Central American immigrants came here illegally, exploited for their cheap labor by the chamber of commerce and exploited as a new underclass for their potential as voters. They undercut Americans for jobs, holding down wages, then seek public assistance to supplement their low wages.With no controls on who comes in and out, a criminal element comes along with them bringing drugs and crime. From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again We have accepted millions of Vietnamese, Mexicans, Central Americans and others. No big deal. The real problem this country faces is the entrenched racism and xenophobia, much of which is being directed at our current president. These are not Christian ideas, or well-thought out principles being expressed - it is rank ignorance, arrogance and fear. The current economic nightmare we are facing has NOTHING to do with minorites and immigrants, but rather legislation passed mainly by a bunch of old rich white guys. They are the enemy and the ones who should be expelled from this great country. The one percenter, anti-job, anti-equality, anti-government radicals are the ones destroying this country a hell of a lot more effectively than ISIS or any other Islamic organization could. Jesus would be deeply ashamed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Right, there is *intent* to play the emotions, especially when you show bloodied children and lifeless bodies. What's the saying... A picture is worth a thousand words. The the next step is that we have to bring them all here into our communities or we are heartless bastards. Just as you predictably pointed out, the excuse is, *They will enrich our communities with diversity* That's just pure BS! There is no way to accurately vet who is coming, what their intent is, how or even if, they will adapt to a foreign culture. Meanwhile, ISIS is infiltrating the ranks of genuine refugees, intent on doing as much harm as they can. Other refugees, not all mind you, who may not be terrorists are exactly what liberals proclaim to hate... violent, misogynistic, homophobic , anti -Semitic, xenophobic bastards that are convinced that they are superior to anyone else. But then, how many women marry a man they are attracted to for some reason, knowing he has many faults that she can't stand but is convinced that she can *change* him. Sorry Anne, bringing large numbers of foreign people here that can't be properly vetted, especially from cultures that have a strong tendency to *not* assimilate and think your culture is inferior is a bad idea. It's a
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The latest Omnibus spending bill has funding for up to 300,000 refugees over the next few years. Doesn't mean there will be that many but the potential is there.The FBI has said there is no way to thoroughly vet these refugees. There are no public records available on them. All public records in Syria have been destroyed due to the war. ISIS also captured a passport office in Syria and has thousands of blank Passports. ISIS has openly threatened to send their people here as they have done in Europe. There is no point in admitting people here if we don't know who they are and the FBI has admitted there is no way to really know who each refugee is. As for a wall, so you want open borders. Let Mexico and central America send anyone and everyone( you did say whole populations, didn't you) they want with no restraints. WTF wouldn't come?Why not several hundred million Indians and Chinese?With populations in the billions, they wouldn't miss a few. I bet they need jobs and just want to improve their lives also. Why even bother to make them come here to improve their lives? Why not just tax the hell out of everybody here and send the money to people in their native countries where the dollars will go further? Better yet, if you want to be *enriched* by their cultures , why don't you just go live with them. From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 9:53 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again You and I support the same thing theoretically; I support a *controlled* entry and exit of foreigners also. Absolutely. SO DOES THE UNITED STATES. It's why I carry a passport when I travel; other countries do too. We can't be the world's safety net and we aren't, with respect to the Syrian refugees. Remember that Obama, whom you despise doesn't think we should be the world's policeman either and has been working to build coalitions from the get go in the Middle East. This what is so funny to me. LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, MIKE (It's in the fact sheet I posted to you) and try and convince me there are hundreds of thousands of Syrian refugees, every one a potential terrorist, invading our borders unfairly. The majority are staying in the Middle East, first of all. "A total of 2,290 Syrian refugees have arrived in the United States since fiscal year 2011, which is when the Syrian civil war began, through Nov. 20, according to the State Department’s Refugee Processing Center. “It’s very important for people to know there’s a big, big difference between the relative chaotic scene we’ve seen played out in Europe and the resettlement process in the United States,” Boian said." "The way it works is that after the State Department has approved a refugee for resettlement in the U.S. — a process that can take up to two years — the refugee is referred to one of nine domestic resettlement agencies, each with a network of affiliates fanned across the country.It is those resettlement agencies — which gather weekly — that make decisions about where to place new, incoming refugees.The chief consideration is whether the refugee has family ties in the United States, said Matthew Soerens, a spokesman for World Relief, one of the nine resettlement agencies. If a refugee does, every effort is made to place that person near relatives. That is why, he said, larger numbers of Syrian refugees are placed in Michigan, Illinois, Pennsylvania and California, where there are small pockets of Syrian Americans.Absent family ties in the U.S., Soerens said, the agencies try to relocate people where there are available jobs. Each of the nine resettlement agencies works with its network of affiliates spread across the country. In the case of World Relief, an evangelical organization, that network is often through evangelical church organizations." I also believe in the need to integrate refugees into our society and I think we have a responsibility to assist. I also know that employing extremist measures (e.g., building a wall or refusing entry to whole populations) is nothing less than the product of fear and completely irrational. What we need for all our citizens and those immigrating both are education, affordable housing and living wages, I agree. Living off of welfare benefits is virtually impossible and I'm guessing very, very, few people have that intention or even know enough to know how to attempt it. It's comical. One will spend years in shelters before one gets federal, subsidized, housing here, which is still pro-rated for income. Food benefits are less than $200/month here per individual and require a half-time job. Just try to get a specialized doctor to accept the medicaid version of Obamacare. Did you ever try to live on minimum wage? I did. Thank God education was cheaper back then and I didn't end up starting
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Mike, I wish you peace of mind and equanimity. P.S. Don't you think the wall should be built the same height below as above the surface? Get out your pocketbook Mike and determine how much of your savings/retirement you are willing to contribute. Me, I'll take my chances. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : There is no job that a Latin American will do, that some American citizen wouldn't do if paid adequately for. When you swim across a river or hike through a desert, avoiding immigration authorities to enter a country, have fake identification , using false Social Security numbers to get jobs, you have avoided all controls.The tunnels are an example of NO CONTROLS! That is why I support a wall, a magnificent wall! It might not stop all illegal trafficking but it sure would slow it to a trickle if done right. From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 4:38 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again Ha ha Mike...what jobs have they undercut for Americans? Oh, the cheap migrant labor jobs that no American citizen will do? They hold down wages? That's hysterical!! Boy, you sure are giving a lot of power to these poor migrant workers. What about outsourcing by corporations? Who said there were no controls in place? You? Drugs are coming in illegally, controls or no controls. Read about the latest tunnel discovered? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : We owed a home to the Vietnamese that came here. They pretty much served with our military while we were there. They have adapted and assimilated well. The overwhelming majority of Mexican and Central American immigrants came here illegally, exploited for their cheap labor by the chamber of commerce and exploited as a new underclass for their potential as voters. They undercut Americans for jobs, holding down wages, then seek public assistance to supplement their low wages.With no controls on who comes in and out, a criminal element comes along with them bringing drugs and crime. From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again We have accepted millions of Vietnamese, Mexicans, Central Americans and others. No big deal. The real problem this country faces is the entrenched racism and xenophobia, much of which is being directed at our current president. These are not Christian ideas, or well-thought out principles being expressed - it is rank ignorance, arrogance and fear. The current economic nightmare we are facing has NOTHING to do with minorites and immigrants, but rather legislation passed mainly by a bunch of old rich white guys. They are the enemy and the ones who should be expelled from this great country. The one percenter, anti-job, anti-equality, anti-government radicals are the ones destroying this country a hell of a lot more effectively than ISIS or any other Islamic organization could. Jesus would be deeply ashamed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Right, there is *intent* to play the emotions, especially when you show bloodied children and lifeless bodies. What's the saying... A picture is worth a thousand words. The the next step is that we have to bring them all here into our communities or we are heartless bastards. Just as you predictably pointed out, the excuse is, *They will enrich our communities with diversity* That's just pure BS! There is no way to accurately vet who is coming, what their intent is, how or even if, they will adapt to a foreign culture. Meanwhile, ISIS is infiltrating the ranks of genuine refugees, intent on doing as much harm as they can. Other refugees, not all mind you, who may not be terrorists are exactly what liberals proclaim to hate... violent, misogynistic, homophobic , anti -Semitic, xenophobic bastards that are convinced that they are superior to anyone else. But then, how many women marry a man they are attracted to for some reason, knowing he has many faults that she can't stand but is convinced that she can *change* him. Sorry Anne, bringing large numbers of foreign people here that can't be properly vetted, especially from cultures that have a strong tendency to *not* assimilate and think your culture is inferior is a bad idea. It's a far better idea to put pressure on neighboring countries to absorb the refugees until things settle down. Western and European countries could help foot the bill although the oil rich countries should be able to handle it. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, Mar
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... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again We live in two different worlds, Mike. I don't envy you yours. Closing our borders to(Who? Everyone from the Middle East and Mexico?)___, which seems to be what you are now promoting below, will not stop terrorism. If you read the facts, the US right now is letting in very, very, few refugees (those fleeing from terror, let us remember) and those that are let in go through an arduous vetting process. My heart aches for every suicide bombing, that I can assure you of. "A breakaway Pakistani faction of the militant Taliban group has claimed responsibility for an Easter Sunday bombing in a park in the eastern city of Lahore that killed 65 people. Ahsanullah Ahsan, spokesman for Jamaat-ul-Ahrar, told the Associated Press that a suicide bomber with the faction deliberately targeted the Christian community." In the world of Christianity, "Christ is risen" and the faithful will ascend to be with Christ upon their death. Let us hope their families can take some comfort in this. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Emily, your naivety astounds me. Numerous Somali refugees once living in Wisconsin have already traveled to the middle east to join up with ISIS. You have the Tzarneav brothers responsible for the Boston bombings and the married couple in California from Pakistan and others I can't even remember. Numerous *refugee* from Syria and elsewhere are being caught sneaking across the southern border from Mexico. Nobody knows how many have not been caught or what their true intentions are. How many Paris or Brussels type attacks in the US do we have to have for you to wake up. I have no intentions of letting my country go the same route Europe has gone.News just broke about a suicide bombing in Pakistan by Taliban, killing numerous women and children, mostly Christian celebrating Easter. From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again Mike, you continue to be so far off base in your statements on refugees that are being allowed to come here, it's incredible. You simply never adjust your position to reflect the facts; you rigidly adhere to what you *think* and then wallow in self-righteousness, despite all evidence to the contrary. Fascinates me, really, as so many, like you adopt this different perception of reality. Your mind seems a very frightened place. Facts about the Syrian Refugees http://www.factcheck.org/2015/11/facts-about-the-syrian-refugees/ http://www.factcheck.org/2015/11/facts-about-the-syrian-refugees/ Facts about the Syrian Refugees http://www.factcheck.org/2015/11/facts-about-the-syrian-refugees/ The Paris bombings and other recent terrorist attacks have given rise to a political debate within the United States about the Obama administration’s plan ... View on www.factcheck.org http://www.factcheck.org/2015/11/facts-about-the-syrian-refugees/ Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Right, there is *intent* to play the emotions, especially when you show bloodied children and lifeless bodies. What's the saying... A picture is worth a thousand words. The the next step is that we have to bring them all here into our communities or we are heartless bastards. Just as you predictably pointed out, the excuse is, *They will enrich our communities with diversity* That's just pure BS! There is no way to accurately vet who is coming, what their intent is, how or even if, they will adapt to a foreign culture. Meanwhile, ISIS is infiltrating the ranks of genuine refugees, intent on doing as much harm as they can. Other refugees, not all mind you, who may not be terrorists are exactly what liberals proclaim to hate... violent, misogynistic, homophobic , anti -Semitic, xenophobic bastards that are convinced that they are superior to anyone else. But then, how many women marry a man they are attracted to for some reason, knowing he has many faults that she can't stand but is convinced that she can *change* him. Sorry Anne, bringing large numbers of foreign people here that can't be properly vetted, especially from cultures that have a strong tendency to *not* assimilate and think your culture is inferior is a bad idea. It's a far better idea to put pressure on neighboring countries to absorb the refugees until things settle down. Western and European countries could help foot the bill although the oil rich countries should be able to handle it. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoog
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There is no job that a Latin American will do, that some American citizen wouldn't do if paid adequately for. When you swim across a river or hike through a desert, avoiding immigration authorities to enter a country, have fake identification , using false Social Security numbers to get jobs, you have avoided all controls.The tunnels are an example of NO CONTROLS! That is why I support a wall, a magnificent wall! It might not stop all illegal trafficking but it sure would slow it to a trickle if done right. From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 4:38 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again Ha ha Mike...what jobs have they undercut for Americans? Oh, the cheap migrant labor jobs that no American citizen will do? They hold down wages? That's hysterical!! Boy, you sure are giving a lot of power to these poor migrant workers. What about outsourcing by corporations? Who said there were no controls in place? You? Drugs are coming in illegally, controls or no controls. Read about the latest tunnel discovered? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : We owed a home to the Vietnamese that came here. They pretty much served with our military while we were there. They have adapted and assimilated well. The overwhelming majority of Mexican and Central American immigrants came here illegally, exploited for their cheap labor by the chamber of commerce and exploited as a new underclass for their potential as voters. They undercut Americans for jobs, holding down wages, then seek public assistance to supplement their low wages.With no controls on who comes in and out, a criminal element comes along with them bringing drugs and crime. From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again We have accepted millions of Vietnamese, Mexicans, Central Americans and others. No big deal. The real problem this country faces is the entrenched racism and xenophobia, much of which is being directed at our current president. These are not Christian ideas, or well-thought out principles being expressed - it is rank ignorance, arrogance and fear. The current economic nightmare we are facing has NOTHING to do with minorites and immigrants, but rather legislation passed mainly by a bunch of old rich white guys. They are the enemy and the ones who should be expelled from this great country. The one percenter, anti-job, anti-equality, anti-government radicals are the ones destroying this country a hell of a lot more effectively than ISIS or any other Islamic organization could. Jesus would be deeply ashamed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Right, there is *intent* to play the emotions, especially when you show bloodied children and lifeless bodies. What's the saying... A picture is worth a thousand words. The the next step is that we have to bring them all here into our communities or we are heartless bastards. Just as you predictably pointed out, the excuse is, *They will enrich our communities with diversity* That's just pure BS! There is no way to accurately vet who is coming, what their intent is, how or even if, they will adapt to a foreign culture. Meanwhile, ISIS is infiltrating the ranks of genuine refugees, intent on doing as much harm as they can. Other refugees, not all mind you, who may not be terrorists are exactly what liberals proclaim to hate... violent, misogynistic, homophobic , anti -Semitic, xenophobic bastards that are convinced that they are superior to anyone else. But then, how many women marry a man they are attracted to for some reason, knowing he has many faults that she can't stand but is convinced that she can *change* him. Sorry Anne, bringing large numbers of foreign people here that can't be properly vetted, especially from cultures that have a strong tendency to *not* assimilate and think your culture is inferior is a bad idea. It's a far better idea to put pressure on neighboring countries to absorb the refugees until things settle down. Western and European countries could help foot the bill although the oil rich countries should be able to handle it. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : No one has said anything about *design* to trick anybody. A wealthy person can give all that he has to help the poor and then become poor himself. What has he accomplished? Feeding a bunch of people for a day and then making himself poor
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Yes Emily, we live in totally different worlds.You, in how you think it should be and me, how it actually functions. I support a *controlled* entry and exit of foreigners. We have to know *who* is coming in and what their intentions are. And we can't be the world's safety net. There are literally hundreds of millions of people in the world that would love to come here and suck off the big tit of the American government and maybe try to make it if they can. At what point do YOU say *enough*! From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again We live in two different worlds, Mike. I don't envy you yours. Closing our borders to(Who? Everyone from the Middle East and Mexico?)___, which seems to be what you are now promoting below, will not stop terrorism. If you read the facts, the US right now is letting in very, very, few refugees (those fleeing from terror, let us remember) and those that are let in go through an arduous vetting process. My heart aches for every suicide bombing, that I can assure you of. "A breakaway Pakistani faction of the militant Taliban group has claimed responsibility for an Easter Sunday bombing in a park in the eastern city of Lahore that killed 65 people.Ahsanullah Ahsan, spokesman for Jamaat-ul-Ahrar, told the Associated Press that a suicide bomber with the faction deliberately targeted the Christian community."In the world of Christianity, "Christ is risen" and the faithful will ascend to be with Christ upon their death. Let us hope their families can take some comfort in this. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Emily, your naivety astounds me. Numerous Somali refugees once living in Wisconsin have already traveled to the middle east to join up with ISIS. You have the Tzarneav brothers responsible for the Boston bombings and the married couple in California from Pakistan and others I can't even remember. Numerous *refugee* from Syria and elsewhere are being caught sneaking across the southern border from Mexico. Nobody knows how many have not been caught or what their true intentions are. How many Paris or Brussels type attacks in the US do we have to have for you to wake up. I have no intentions of letting my country go the same route Europe has gone.News just broke about a suicide bombing in Pakistan by Taliban, killing numerous women and children, mostly Christian celebrating Easter. From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again Mike, you continue to be so far off base in your statements on refugees that are being allowed to come here, it's incredible. You simply never adjust your position to reflect the facts; you rigidly adhere to what you *think* and then wallow in self-righteousness, despite all evidence to the contrary. Fascinates me, really, as so many, like you adopt this different perception of reality. Your mind seems a very frightened place. Facts about the Syrian Refugees | | | | | | Facts about the Syrian Refugees The Paris bombings and other recent terrorist attacks have given rise to a political debate within the United States about the Obama administration’s plan ... | | | View on www.factcheck.org| Preview by Yahoo | | | ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Right, there is *intent* to play the emotions, especially when you show bloodied children and lifeless bodies. What's the saying... A picture is worth a thousand words. The the next step is that we have to bring them all here into our communities or we are heartless bastards. Just as you predictably pointed out, the excuse is, *They will enrich our communities with diversity* That's just pure BS! There is no way to accurately vet who is coming, what their intent is, how or even if, they will adapt to a foreign culture. Meanwhile, ISIS is infiltrating the ranks of genuine refugees, intent on doing as much harm as they can. Other refugees, not all mind you, who may not be terrorists are exactly what liberals proclaim to hate... violent, misogynistic, homophobic , anti -Semitic, xenophobic bastards that are convinced that they are superior to anyone else. But then, how many women marry a man they are attracted to for some reason, knowing he has many faults that she can't stand but is convinced that she can *change* him. Sorry Anne, bringing large numbers of foreign people here that can't be properly vetted, especially from cultures that have a strong tendency to *not* assimilate and think your culture is inferior is a bad idea. It's a far better idea to put
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Do you always *leap* before looking? Answer the question. Or maybe you did. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Right, there is *intent* to play the emotions, especially when you show bloodied children and lifeless bodies. What's the saying... A picture is worth a thousand words. The the next step is that we have to bring them all here into our communities or we are heartless bastards. Just as you predictably pointed out, the excuse is, *They will enrich our communities with diversity* That's just pure BS! There is no way to accurately vet who is coming, what their intent is, how or even if, they will adapt to a foreign culture. Meanwhile, ISIS is infiltrating the ranks of genuine refugees, intent on doing as much harm as they can. Other refugees, not all mind you, who may not be terrorists are exactly what liberals proclaim to hate... violent, misogynistic, homophobic , anti -Semitic, xenophobic bastards that are convinced that they are superior to anyone else. But then, how many women marry a man they are attracted to for some reason, knowing he has many faults that she can't stand but is convinced that she can *change* him. Sorry Anne, bringing large numbers of foreign people here that can't be properly vetted, especially from cultures that have a strong tendency to *not* assimilate and think your culture is inferior is a bad idea. It's a far better idea to put pressure on neighboring countries to absorb the refugees until things settle down. Western and European countries could help foot the bill although the oil rich countries should be able to handle it. Are you always "the glass is half empty" kind of guy, Mike? http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/11/26/refugees-economy-canada_n_8658076.html http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/11/26/refugees-economy-canada_n_8658076.html
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Yep, it was a blowout. I read that we were a "deep-blue" state. I didn't know that. 15,000 people rallied the day before in Safeco; that in itself is pretty amazing. Good that so many are getting involved. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote : Emily, congrats on my old home state feeling the Bern! On 03/27/2016 09:37 AM, emily.mae50@... mailto:emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Mike, you continue to be so far off base in your statements on refugees that are being allowed to come here, it's incredible. You simply never adjust your position to reflect the facts; you rigidly adhere to what you *think* and then wallow in self-righteousness, despite all evidence to the contrary. Fascinates me, really, as so many, like you adopt this different perception of reality. Your mind seems a very frightened place. Facts about the Syrian Refugees Facts about the Syrian Refugees The Paris bombings and other recent terrorist attacks have given rise to a political debate within the United States about the Obama administration’s plan ... View on www.factcheck.org Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> mailto:mdixon.6569@... wrote : Right, there is *intent* to play the emotions, especially when you show bloodied children and lifeless bodies. What's the saying... A picture is worth a thousand words. The the next step is that we have to bring them all here into our communities or we are heartless bastards. Just as you predictably pointed out, the excuse is, *They will enrich our communities with diversity* That's just pure BS! There is no way to accurately vet who is coming, what their intent is, how or even if, they will adapt to a foreign culture. Meanwhile, ISIS is infiltrating the ranks of genuine refugees, intent on doing as much harm as they can. Other refugees, not all mind you, who may not be terrorists are exactly what liberals proclaim to hate... violent, misogynistic, homophobic , anti -Semitic, xenophobic bastards that are convinced that they are superior to anyone else. But then, how many women marry a man they are attracted to for some reason, knowing he has many faults that she can't stand but is convinced that she can *change* him. Sorry Anne, bringing large numbers of foreign people here that can't be properly vetted, especially from cultures that have a strong tendency to *not* assimilate and think your culture is inferior is a bad idea. It's a far better idea to put pressure on neighboring countries to absorb the refugees until things settle down. Western and European countries could help foot the bill although the oil rich countries should be able to handle it. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" mailto:awoelflebater@...[FairfieldLife] <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> mailto:mdixon.6569@... wrote : No one has said anything about *design* to trick anybody. A wealthy person can give all that he has to help the poor and then become poor himself. What has he accomplished? Feeding a bunch of people for a day and then making himself poor as well, At that point, he becomes a victim as well, needing help himself. This is not being smart, not how he became wealthy in the first place. Better to have a strategy that helps all and doesn't hurt anyone. The first rule of the Hippocratic oath is *do no harm*, neither to the patient nor the doctor. A dead doctor doesn't heal anyone! I'm sure Europe doesn't want to go through those bombed out buildings again. No, you used the word "intent" which implies some sort of manipulation of the viewer through the use of these photos. These are journalistic photographs of what is going on, not some staged actors playing the part of victims accompanied by saccharine background music. You can either accept it or not. You can either turn away or not. You can either put yourself mentally/imaginatively in these people's situation or not and try and understand the fear, the uncertainty, the devastation. You can realize that other humans seeking refuge from such horrendous war conditions need help or you might not. You could, certainly, conceive of the fact that human beings coming to this big country we call "America" might add diversity, richness and more humanity instead of having a decimating effect on what you perceive of as "America" or not. It is your choice, your ability or inability or willingness or unwillingness to accept this possibility which determines your status as either compas
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Ha ha Mike...what jobs have they undercut for Americans? Oh, the cheap migrant labor jobs that no American citizen will do? They hold down wages? That's hysterical!! Boy, you sure are giving a lot of power to these poor migrant workers. What about outsourcing by corporations? Who said there were no controls in place? You? Drugs are coming in illegally, controls or no controls. Read about the latest tunnel discovered? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : We owed a home to the Vietnamese that came here. They pretty much served with our military while we were there. They have adapted and assimilated well. The overwhelming majority of Mexican and Central American immigrants came here illegally, exploited for their cheap labor by the chamber of commerce and exploited as a new underclass for their potential as voters. They undercut Americans for jobs, holding down wages, then seek public assistance to supplement their low wages.With no controls on who comes in and out, a criminal element comes along with them bringing drugs and crime. From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again We have accepted millions of Vietnamese, Mexicans, Central Americans and others. No big deal. The real problem this country faces is the entrenched racism and xenophobia, much of which is being directed at our current president. These are not Christian ideas, or well-thought out principles being expressed - it is rank ignorance, arrogance and fear. The current economic nightmare we are facing has NOTHING to do with minorites and immigrants, but rather legislation passed mainly by a bunch of old rich white guys. They are the enemy and the ones who should be expelled from this great country. The one percenter, anti-job, anti-equality, anti-government radicals are the ones destroying this country a hell of a lot more effectively than ISIS or any other Islamic organization could. Jesus would be deeply ashamed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Right, there is *intent* to play the emotions, especially when you show bloodied children and lifeless bodies. What's the saying... A picture is worth a thousand words. The the next step is that we have to bring them all here into our communities or we are heartless bastards. Just as you predictably pointed out, the excuse is, *They will enrich our communities with diversity* That's just pure BS! There is no way to accurately vet who is coming, what their intent is, how or even if, they will adapt to a foreign culture. Meanwhile, ISIS is infiltrating the ranks of genuine refugees, intent on doing as much harm as they can. Other refugees, not all mind you, who may not be terrorists are exactly what liberals proclaim to hate... violent, misogynistic, homophobic , anti -Semitic, xenophobic bastards that are convinced that they are superior to anyone else. But then, how many women marry a man they are attracted to for some reason, knowing he has many faults that she can't stand but is convinced that she can *change* him. Sorry Anne, bringing large numbers of foreign people here that can't be properly vetted, especially from cultures that have a strong tendency to *not* assimilate and think your culture is inferior is a bad idea. It's a far better idea to put pressure on neighboring countries to absorb the refugees until things settle down. Western and European countries could help foot the bill although the oil rich countries should be able to handle it. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : No one has said anything about *design* to trick anybody. A wealthy person can give all that he has to help the poor and then become poor himself. What has he accomplished? Feeding a bunch of people for a day and then making himself poor as well, At that point, he becomes a victim as well, needing help himself. This is not being smart, not how he became wealthy in the first place. Better to have a strategy that helps all and doesn't hurt anyone. The first rule of the Hippocratic oath is *do no harm*, neither to the patient nor the doctor. A dead doctor doesn't heal anyone! I'm sure Europe doesn't want to go through those bombed out buildings again. No, you used the word "intent" which implies some sort of manipulation of the viewer through the use of these photos. These are journalistic photographs of what is going on, not some staged actors playing the part of victims accompanied by saccharine background music. You can ei
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Of course, Mike, it all depends on how the scripture is interpreted. What about this? "The talents given to the three servants are not so much monetary gifts or personal capacities; they are a share in the mercy of God, a participation in the weightiness of the divine love. But since mercy is always directed to the other, these “talents” are designed to be shared. In point of fact, they will increase precisely in the measure that they are given away. " ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : BTW Ollie, if it were not for those 1%er's you so despise, you probably wouldn't have Jack Shit! No job, no house /apartment, transportation, computer, television, electricity, food, cloths, medical care, education, political or legal representation. You'd probably be living under a totalitarian system like Pol Pot, or Kim Jung Un doing what they tell you to do as long as you are of any use to them. You certainly wouldn't be on the internet complaining about them. If you think Christ was anti capitalist you better re read your Bible(if you have one). Christ used one parable in which he described a wealthy man that divided his fortune up to be managed by three servants while he was away on a long trip. When the man returned he wanted to know what each servant did with the money that he gave him to take care of. One man invested and increased the fortune, the other tried but lost it all, the last man buried his share and returned it to the master when he came home. The man congratulated the one that increased his fortune, the one that lost it was recognized as at least having tried, but the one that buried it and returned it all was scolded for missing out on an opportunity to do something with what he had been provided. From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again We have accepted millions of Vietnamese, Mexicans, Central Americans and others. No big deal. The real problem this country faces is the entrenched racism and xenophobia, much of which is being directed at our current president. These are not Christian ideas, or well-thought out principles being expressed - it is rank ignorance, arrogance and fear. The current economic nightmare we are facing has NOTHING to do with minorites and immigrants, but rather legislation passed mainly by a bunch of old rich white guys. They are the enemy and the ones who should be expelled from this great country. The one percenter, anti-job, anti-equality, anti-government radicals are the ones destroying this country a hell of a lot more effectively than ISIS or any other Islamic organization could. Jesus would be deeply ashamed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Right, there is *intent* to play the emotions, especially when you show bloodied children and lifeless bodies. What's the saying... A picture is worth a thousand words. The the next step is that we have to bring them all here into our communities or we are heartless bastards. Just as you predictably pointed out, the excuse is, *They will enrich our communities with diversity* That's just pure BS! There is no way to accurately vet who is coming, what their intent is, how or even if, they will adapt to a foreign culture. Meanwhile, ISIS is infiltrating the ranks of genuine refugees, intent on doing as much harm as they can. Other refugees, not all mind you, who may not be terrorists are exactly what liberals proclaim to hate... violent, misogynistic, homophobic , anti -Semitic, xenophobic bastards that are convinced that they are superior to anyone else. But then, how many women marry a man they are attracted to for some reason, knowing he has many faults that she can't stand but is convinced that she can *change* him. Sorry Anne, bringing large numbers of foreign people here that can't be properly vetted, especially from cultures that have a strong tendency to *not* assimilate and think your culture is inferior is a bad idea. It's a far better idea to put pressure on neighboring countries to absorb the refugees until things settle down. Western and European countries could help foot the bill although the oil rich countries should be able to handle it. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : No one has said anything about *design* to trick anybody. A wealthy person can give all that he has to help the poor and then become poor himself. What has he accomplished? Feeding a bunch of people for a day and then making himself poor as well, At th
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We live in two different worlds, Mike. I don't envy you yours. Closing our borders to(Who? Everyone from the Middle East and Mexico?)___, which seems to be what you are now promoting below, will not stop terrorism. If you read the facts, the US right now is letting in very, very, few refugees (those fleeing from terror, let us remember) and those that are let in go through an arduous vetting process. My heart aches for every suicide bombing, that I can assure you of. "A breakaway Pakistani faction of the militant Taliban group has claimed responsibility for an Easter Sunday bombing in a park in the eastern city of Lahore that killed 65 people. Ahsanullah Ahsan, spokesman for Jamaat-ul-Ahrar, told the Associated Press that a suicide bomber with the faction deliberately targeted the Christian community." In the world of Christianity, "Christ is risen" and the faithful will ascend to be with Christ upon their death. Let us hope their families can take some comfort in this. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Emily, your naivety astounds me. Numerous Somali refugees once living in Wisconsin have already traveled to the middle east to join up with ISIS. You have the Tzarneav brothers responsible for the Boston bombings and the married couple in California from Pakistan and others I can't even remember. Numerous *refugee* from Syria and elsewhere are being caught sneaking across the southern border from Mexico. Nobody knows how many have not been caught or what their true intentions are. How many Paris or Brussels type attacks in the US do we have to have for you to wake up. I have no intentions of letting my country go the same route Europe has gone.News just broke about a suicide bombing in Pakistan by Taliban, killing numerous women and children, mostly Christian celebrating Easter. From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again Mike, you continue to be so far off base in your statements on refugees that are being allowed to come here, it's incredible. You simply never adjust your position to reflect the facts; you rigidly adhere to what you *think* and then wallow in self-righteousness, despite all evidence to the contrary. Fascinates me, really, as so many, like you adopt this different perception of reality. Your mind seems a very frightened place. Facts about the Syrian Refugees http://www.factcheck.org/2015/11/facts-about-the-syrian-refugees/ http://www.factcheck.org/2015/11/facts-about-the-syrian-refugees/ Facts about the Syrian Refugees http://www.factcheck.org/2015/11/facts-about-the-syrian-refugees/ The Paris bombings and other recent terrorist attacks have given rise to a political debate within the United States about the Obama administration’s plan ... View on www.factcheck.org http://www.factcheck.org/2015/11/facts-about-the-syrian-refugees/ Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Right, there is *intent* to play the emotions, especially when you show bloodied children and lifeless bodies. What's the saying... A picture is worth a thousand words. The the next step is that we have to bring them all here into our communities or we are heartless bastards. Just as you predictably pointed out, the excuse is, *They will enrich our communities with diversity* That's just pure BS! There is no way to accurately vet who is coming, what their intent is, how or even if, they will adapt to a foreign culture. Meanwhile, ISIS is infiltrating the ranks of genuine refugees, intent on doing as much harm as they can. Other refugees, not all mind you, who may not be terrorists are exactly what liberals proclaim to hate... violent, misogynistic, homophobic , anti -Semitic, xenophobic bastards that are convinced that they are superior to anyone else. But then, how many women marry a man they are attracted to for some reason, knowing he has many faults that she can't stand but is convinced that she can *change* him. Sorry Anne, bringing large numbers of foreign people here that can't be properly vetted, especially from cultures that have a strong tendency to *not* assimilate and think your culture is inferior is a bad idea. It's a far better idea to put pressure on neighboring countries to absorb the refugees until things settle down. Western and European countries could help foot the bill although the oil rich countries should be able to handle it. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.
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BTW Ollie, if it were not for those 1%er's you so despise, you probably wouldn't have Jack Shit! No job, no house /apartment, transportation, computer, television, electricity, food, cloths, medical care, education, political or legal representation. You'd probably be living under a totalitarian system like Pol Pot, or Kim Jung Un doing what they tell you to do as long as you are of any use to them. You certainly wouldn't be on the internet complaining about them. If you think Christ was anti capitalist you better re read your Bible(if you have one). Christ used one parable in which he described a wealthy man that divided his fortune up to be managed by three servants while he was away on a long trip. When the man returned he wanted to know what each servant did with the money that he gave him to take care of. One man invested and increased the fortune, the other tried but lost it all, the last man buried his share and returned it to the master when he came home. The man congratulated the one that increased his fortune, the one that lost it was recognized as at least having tried, but the one that buried it and returned it all was scolded for missing out on an opportunity to do something with what he had been provided. From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again We have accepted millions of Vietnamese, Mexicans, Central Americans and others. No big deal. The real problem this country faces is the entrenched racism and xenophobia, much of which is being directed at our current president. These are not Christian ideas, or well-thought out principles being expressed - it is rank ignorance, arrogance and fear. The current economic nightmare we are facing has NOTHING to do with minorites and immigrants, but rather legislation passed mainly by a bunch of old rich white guys. They are the enemy and the ones who should be expelled from this great country. The one percenter, anti-job, anti-equality, anti-government radicals are the ones destroying this country a hell of a lot more effectively than ISIS or any other Islamic organization could. Jesus would be deeply ashamed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Right, there is *intent* to play the emotions, especially when you show bloodied children and lifeless bodies. What's the saying... A picture is worth a thousand words. The the next step is that we have to bring them all here into our communities or we are heartless bastards. Just as you predictably pointed out, the excuse is, *They will enrich our communities with diversity* That's just pure BS! There is no way to accurately vet who is coming, what their intent is, how or even if, they will adapt to a foreign culture. Meanwhile, ISIS is infiltrating the ranks of genuine refugees, intent on doing as much harm as they can. Other refugees, not all mind you, who may not be terrorists are exactly what liberals proclaim to hate... violent, misogynistic, homophobic , anti -Semitic, xenophobic bastards that are convinced that they are superior to anyone else. But then, how many women marry a man they are attracted to for some reason, knowing he has many faults that she can't stand but is convinced that she can *change* him. Sorry Anne, bringing large numbers of foreign people here that can't be properly vetted, especially from cultures that have a strong tendency to *not* assimilate and think your culture is inferior is a bad idea. It's a far better idea to put pressure on neighboring countries to absorb the refugees until things settle down. Western and European countries could help foot the bill although the oil rich countries should be able to handle it. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : No one has said anything about *design* to trick anybody. A wealthy person can give all that he has to help the poor and then become poor himself. What has he accomplished? Feeding a bunch of people for a day and then making himself poor as well, At that point, he becomes a victim as well, needing help himself. This is not being smart, not how he became wealthy in the first place. Better to have a strategy that helps all and doesn't hurt anyone. The first rule of the Hippocratic oath is *do no harm*, neither to the patient nor the doctor. A dead doctor doesn't heal anyone! I'm sure Europe doesn't want to go through those bombed out buildings again. No, you used the word "intent" which implies some sort of manipulation of the viewer through the use of these photos. These are journalistic photograph
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We owed a home to the Vietnamese that came here. They pretty much served with our military while we were there. They have adapted and assimilated well. The overwhelming majority of Mexican and Central American immigrants came here illegally, exploited for their cheap labor by the chamber of commerce and exploited as a new underclass for their potential as voters. They undercut Americans for jobs, holding down wages, then seek public assistance to supplement their low wages.With no controls on who comes in and out, a criminal element comes along with them bringing drugs and crime. From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again We have accepted millions of Vietnamese, Mexicans, Central Americans and others. No big deal. The real problem this country faces is the entrenched racism and xenophobia, much of which is being directed at our current president. These are not Christian ideas, or well-thought out principles being expressed - it is rank ignorance, arrogance and fear. The current economic nightmare we are facing has NOTHING to do with minorites and immigrants, but rather legislation passed mainly by a bunch of old rich white guys. They are the enemy and the ones who should be expelled from this great country. The one percenter, anti-job, anti-equality, anti-government radicals are the ones destroying this country a hell of a lot more effectively than ISIS or any other Islamic organization could. Jesus would be deeply ashamed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Right, there is *intent* to play the emotions, especially when you show bloodied children and lifeless bodies. What's the saying... A picture is worth a thousand words. The the next step is that we have to bring them all here into our communities or we are heartless bastards. Just as you predictably pointed out, the excuse is, *They will enrich our communities with diversity* That's just pure BS! There is no way to accurately vet who is coming, what their intent is, how or even if, they will adapt to a foreign culture. Meanwhile, ISIS is infiltrating the ranks of genuine refugees, intent on doing as much harm as they can. Other refugees, not all mind you, who may not be terrorists are exactly what liberals proclaim to hate... violent, misogynistic, homophobic , anti -Semitic, xenophobic bastards that are convinced that they are superior to anyone else. But then, how many women marry a man they are attracted to for some reason, knowing he has many faults that she can't stand but is convinced that she can *change* him. Sorry Anne, bringing large numbers of foreign people here that can't be properly vetted, especially from cultures that have a strong tendency to *not* assimilate and think your culture is inferior is a bad idea. It's a far better idea to put pressure on neighboring countries to absorb the refugees until things settle down. Western and European countries could help foot the bill although the oil rich countries should be able to handle it. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : No one has said anything about *design* to trick anybody. A wealthy person can give all that he has to help the poor and then become poor himself. What has he accomplished? Feeding a bunch of people for a day and then making himself poor as well, At that point, he becomes a victim as well, needing help himself. This is not being smart, not how he became wealthy in the first place. Better to have a strategy that helps all and doesn't hurt anyone. The first rule of the Hippocratic oath is *do no harm*, neither to the patient nor the doctor. A dead doctor doesn't heal anyone! I'm sure Europe doesn't want to go through those bombed out buildings again. No, you used the word "intent" which implies some sort of manipulation of the viewer through the use of these photos. These are journalistic photographs of what is going on, not some staged actors playing the part of victims accompanied by saccharine background music. You can either accept it or not. You can either turn away or not. You can either put yourself mentally/imaginatively in these people's situation or not and try and understand the fear, the uncertainty, the devastation. You can realize that other humans seeking refuge from such horrendous war conditions need help or you might not. You could, certainly, conceive of the fact that human beings coming to this big country we call "America" might add diversity, richness and more humanity instead of having a decimating
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We have accepted millions of Vietnamese, Mexicans, Central Americans and others. No big deal. The real problem this country faces is the entrenched racism and xenophobia, much of which is being directed at our current president. These are not Christian ideas, or well-thought out principles being expressed - it is rank ignorance, arrogance and fear. The current economic nightmare we are facing has NOTHING to do with minorites and immigrants, but rather legislation passed mainly by a bunch of old rich white guys. They are the enemy and the ones who should be expelled from this great country. The one percenter, anti-job, anti-equality, anti-government radicals are the ones destroying this country a hell of a lot more effectively than ISIS or any other Islamic organization could. Jesus would be deeply ashamed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Right, there is *intent* to play the emotions, especially when you show bloodied children and lifeless bodies. What's the saying... A picture is worth a thousand words. The the next step is that we have to bring them all here into our communities or we are heartless bastards. Just as you predictably pointed out, the excuse is, *They will enrich our communities with diversity* That's just pure BS! There is no way to accurately vet who is coming, what their intent is, how or even if, they will adapt to a foreign culture. Meanwhile, ISIS is infiltrating the ranks of genuine refugees, intent on doing as much harm as they can. Other refugees, not all mind you, who may not be terrorists are exactly what liberals proclaim to hate... violent, misogynistic, homophobic , anti -Semitic, xenophobic bastards that are convinced that they are superior to anyone else. But then, how many women marry a man they are attracted to for some reason, knowing he has many faults that she can't stand but is convinced that she can *change* him. Sorry Anne, bringing large numbers of foreign people here that can't be properly vetted, especially from cultures that have a strong tendency to *not* assimilate and think your culture is inferior is a bad idea. It's a far better idea to put pressure on neighboring countries to absorb the refugees until things settle down. Western and European countries could help foot the bill although the oil rich countries should be able to handle it. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : No one has said anything about *design* to trick anybody. A wealthy person can give all that he has to help the poor and then become poor himself. What has he accomplished? Feeding a bunch of people for a day and then making himself poor as well, At that point, he becomes a victim as well, needing help himself. This is not being smart, not how he became wealthy in the first place. Better to have a strategy that helps all and doesn't hurt anyone. The first rule of the Hippocratic oath is *do no harm*, neither to the patient nor the doctor. A dead doctor doesn't heal anyone! I'm sure Europe doesn't want to go through those bombed out buildings again. No, you used the word "intent" which implies some sort of manipulation of the viewer through the use of these photos. These are journalistic photographs of what is going on, not some staged actors playing the part of victims accompanied by saccharine background music. You can either accept it or not. You can either turn away or not. You can either put yourself mentally/imaginatively in these people's situation or not and try and understand the fear, the uncertainty, the devastation. You can realize that other humans seeking refuge from such horrendous war conditions need help or you might not. You could, certainly, conceive of the fact that human beings coming to this big country we call "America" might add diversity, richness and more humanity instead of having a decimating effect on what you perceive of as "America" or not. It is your choice, your ability or inability or willingness or unwillingness to accept this possibility which determines your status as either compassionate or narrow and small - living in fear and constriction. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2016 8:40 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : This is exactly what I'm referring to when I say *the heart*. All emotion. Such pictures tug on the *heart strings*. The intent is to evoke compassion , for those affected, the desire to help. Nothing wrong with that! Just
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Emily, your naivety astounds me. Numerous Somali refugees once living in Wisconsin have already traveled to the middle east to join up with ISIS. You have the Tzarneav brothers responsible for the Boston bombings and the married couple in California from Pakistan and others I can't even remember. Numerous *refugee* from Syria and elsewhere are being caught sneaking across the southern border from Mexico. Nobody knows how many have not been caught or what their true intentions are. How many Paris or Brussels type attacks in the US do we have to have for you to wake up. I have no intentions of letting my country go the same route Europe has gone.News just broke about a suicide bombing in Pakistan by Taliban, killing numerous women and children, mostly Christian celebrating Easter. From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again Mike, you continue to be so far off base in your statements on refugees that are being allowed to come here, it's incredible. You simply never adjust your position to reflect the facts; you rigidly adhere to what you *think* and then wallow in self-righteousness, despite all evidence to the contrary. Fascinates me, really, as so many, like you adopt this different perception of reality. Your mind seems a very frightened place. Facts about the Syrian Refugees || |||| Facts about the Syrian Refugees The Paris bombings and other recent terrorist attacks have given rise to a political debate within the United States about the Obama administration’s plan ...|| | View on www.factcheck.org |Preview by Yahoo| || ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Right, there is *intent* to play the emotions, especially when you show bloodied children and lifeless bodies. What's the saying... A picture is worth a thousand words. The the next step is that we have to bring them all here into our communities or we are heartless bastards. Just as you predictably pointed out, the excuse is, *They will enrich our communities with diversity* That's just pure BS! There is no way to accurately vet who is coming, what their intent is, how or even if, they will adapt to a foreign culture. Meanwhile, ISIS is infiltrating the ranks of genuine refugees, intent on doing as much harm as they can. Other refugees, not all mind you, who may not be terrorists are exactly what liberals proclaim to hate... violent, misogynistic, homophobic , anti -Semitic, xenophobic bastards that are convinced that they are superior to anyone else. But then, how many women marry a man they are attracted to for some reason, knowing he has many faults that she can't stand but is convinced that she can *change* him. Sorry Anne, bringing large numbers of foreign people here that can't be properly vetted, especially from cultures that have a strong tendency to *not* assimilate and think your culture is inferior is a bad idea. It's a far better idea to put pressure on neighboring countries to absorb the refugees until things settle down. Western and European countries could help foot the bill although the oil rich countries should be able to handle it. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : No one has said anything about *design* to trick anybody. A wealthy person can give all that he has to help the poor and then become poor himself. What has he accomplished? Feeding a bunch of people for a day and then making himself poor as well, At that point, he becomes a victim as well, needing help himself. This is not being smart, not how he became wealthy in the first place. Better to have a strategy that helps all and doesn't hurt anyone. The first rule of the Hippocratic oath is *do no harm*, neither to the patient nor the doctor. A dead doctor doesn't heal anyone! I'm sure Europe doesn't want to go through those bombed out buildings again. No, you used the word "intent" which implies some sort of manipulation of the viewer through the use of these photos. These are journalistic photographs of what is going on, not some staged actors playing the part of victims accompanied by saccharine background music. You can either accept it or not. You can either turn away or not. You can either put yourself mentally/imaginatively in these people's situation or not and try and understand the fear, the uncertainty, the devastation. You can realize that other humans seeking refuge from such horrendous war conditions need help or you might not. You could, certainly, conc
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Do you always *leap* before looking? From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Right, there is *intent* to play the emotions, especially when you show bloodied children and lifeless bodies. What's the saying... A picture is worth a thousand words. The the next step is that we have to bring them all here into our communities or we are heartless bastards. Just as you predictably pointed out, the excuse is, *They will enrich our communities with diversity* That's just pure BS! There is no way to accurately vet who is coming, what their intent is, how or even if, they will adapt to a foreign culture. Meanwhile, ISIS is infiltrating the ranks of genuine refugees, intent on doing as much harm as they can. Other refugees, not all mind you, who may not be terrorists are exactly what liberals proclaim to hate... violent, misogynistic, homophobic , anti -Semitic, xenophobic bastards that are convinced that they are superior to anyone else. But then, how many women marry a man they are attracted to for some reason, knowing he has many faults that she can't stand but is convinced that she can *change* him. Sorry Anne, bringing large numbers of foreign people here that can't be properly vetted, especially from cultures that have a strong tendency to *not* assimilate and think your culture is inferior is a bad idea. It's a far better idea to put pressure on neighboring countries to absorb the refugees until things settle down. Western and European countries could help foot the bill although the oil rich countries should be able to handle it. Are you always "the glass is half empty" kind of guy, Mike?http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/11/26/refugees-economy-canada_n_8658076.html From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : No one has said anything about *design* to trick anybody. A wealthy person can give all that he has to help the poor and then become poor himself. What has he accomplished? Feeding a bunch of people for a day and then making himself poor as well, At that point, he becomes a victim as well, needing help himself. This is not being smart, not how he became wealthy in the first place. Better to have a strategy that helps all and doesn't hurt anyone. The first rule of the Hippocratic oath is *do no harm*, neither to the patient nor the doctor. A dead doctor doesn't heal anyone! I'm sure Europe doesn't want to go through those bombed out buildings again. No, you used the word "intent" which implies some sort of manipulation of the viewer through the use of these photos. These are journalistic photographs of what is going on, not some staged actors playing the part of victims accompanied by saccharine background music. You can either accept it or not. You can either turn away or not. You can either put yourself mentally/imaginatively in these people's situation or not and try and understand the fear, the uncertainty, the devastation. You can realize that other humans seeking refuge from such horrendous war conditions need help or you might not. You could, certainly, conceive of the fact that human beings coming to this big country we call "America" might add diversity, richness and more humanity instead of having a decimating effect on what you perceive of as "America" or not. It is your choice, your ability or inability or willingness or unwillingness to accept this possibility which determines your status as either compassionate or narrow and small - living in fear and constriction. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2016 8:40 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : This is exactly what I'm referring to when I say *the heart*. All emotion. Such pictures tug on the *heart strings*. The intent is to evoke compassion , for those affected, the desire to help. Nothing wrong with that! Just don't create more and bigger problems with the solution! Don't destroy what you have in the name of helping others out of their unfortunate circumstances. Mike, these images are what they are. They aren't "designed" to do anything - they are what is happening, they are not staged or embellished. Bombed out cities really exist in Syria, real blood is being spilled, families are being decimated. This isn't some fic
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Emily, congrats on my old home state feeling the Bern! On 03/27/2016 09:37 AM, emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Mike, you continue to be so far off base in your statements on refugees that are being allowed to come here, it's incredible. You simply never adjust your position to reflect the facts; you rigidly adhere to what you *think* and then wallow in self-righteousness, despite all evidence to the contrary. Fascinates me, really, as so many, like you adopt this different perception of reality. Your mind seems a very frightened place. Facts about the Syrian Refugees <http://www.factcheck.org/2015/11/facts-about-the-syrian-refugees/> image <http://www.factcheck.org/2015/11/facts-about-the-syrian-refugees/> Facts about the Syrian Refugees <http://www.factcheck.org/2015/11/facts-about-the-syrian-refugees/> The Paris bombings and other recent terrorist attacks have given rise to a political debate within the United States about the Obama administration’s plan ... View on www.factcheck.org <http://www.factcheck.org/2015/11/facts-about-the-syrian-refugees/> Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Right, there is *intent* to play the emotions, especially when you show bloodied children and lifeless bodies. What's the saying... A picture is worth a thousand words. The the next step is that we have to bring them all here into our communities or we are heartless bastards. Just as you predictably pointed out, the excuse is, *They will enrich our communities with diversity* That's just pure BS! There is no way to accurately vet who is coming, what their intent is, how or even if, they will adapt to a foreign culture. Meanwhile, ISIS is infiltrating the ranks of genuine refugees, intent on doing as much harm as they can. Other refugees, not all mind you, who may not be terrorists are exactly what liberals proclaim to hate... violent, misogynistic, homophobic , anti -Semitic, xenophobic bastards that are convinced that they are superior to anyone else. But then, how many women marry a man they are attracted to for some reason, knowing he has many faults that she can't stand but is convinced that she can *change* him. Sorry Anne, bringing large numbers of foreign people here that can't be properly vetted, especially from cultures that have a strong tendency to *not* assimilate and think your culture is inferior is a bad idea. It's a far better idea to put pressure on neighboring countries to absorb the refugees until things settle down. Western and European countries could help foot the bill although the oil rich countries should be able to handle it. *From:* "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, March 27, 2016 8:20 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : No one has said anything about *design* to trick anybody. A wealthy person can give all that he has to help the poor and then become poor himself. What has he accomplished? Feeding a bunch of people for a day and then making himself poor as well, At that point, he becomes a victim as well, needing help himself. This is not being smart, not how he became wealthy in the first place. Better to have a strategy that helps all and doesn't hurt anyone. The first rule of the Hippocratic oath is *do no harm*, neither to the patient nor the doctor. A dead doctor doesn't heal anyone! I'm sure Europe doesn't want to go through those bombed out buildings again. No, you used the word "intent" which implies some sort of manipulation of the viewer through the use of these photos. These are journalistic photographs of what is going on, not some staged actors playing the part of victims accompanied by saccharine background music. You can either accept it or not. You can either turn away or not. You can either put yourself mentally/imaginatively in these people's situation or not and try and understand the fear, the uncertainty, the devastation. You can realize that other humans seeking refuge from such horrendous war conditions need help or you might not. You could, certainly, conceive of the fact that human beings coming to this big country we call "America" might add diversity, richness and more humanity instead of having a decimating effect on what you perceive of as "America" or not. It is your choice, your ability or inability or willingness or unwillingness to accept this possibility which determines your status as either compassionate or narrow and small - living in fear and constriction. *From:* "a
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Mike, you continue to be so far off base in your statements on refugees that are being allowed to come here, it's incredible. You simply never adjust your position to reflect the facts; you rigidly adhere to what you *think* and then wallow in self-righteousness, despite all evidence to the contrary. Fascinates me, really, as so many, like you adopt this different perception of reality. Your mind seems a very frightened place. Facts about the Syrian Refugees http://www.factcheck.org/2015/11/facts-about-the-syrian-refugees/ http://www.factcheck.org/2015/11/facts-about-the-syrian-refugees/ Facts about the Syrian Refugees http://www.factcheck.org/2015/11/facts-about-the-syrian-refugees/ The Paris bombings and other recent terrorist attacks have given rise to a political debate within the United States about the Obama administration’s plan ... View on www.factcheck.org http://www.factcheck.org/2015/11/facts-about-the-syrian-refugees/ Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Right, there is *intent* to play the emotions, especially when you show bloodied children and lifeless bodies. What's the saying... A picture is worth a thousand words. The the next step is that we have to bring them all here into our communities or we are heartless bastards. Just as you predictably pointed out, the excuse is, *They will enrich our communities with diversity* That's just pure BS! There is no way to accurately vet who is coming, what their intent is, how or even if, they will adapt to a foreign culture. Meanwhile, ISIS is infiltrating the ranks of genuine refugees, intent on doing as much harm as they can. Other refugees, not all mind you, who may not be terrorists are exactly what liberals proclaim to hate... violent, misogynistic, homophobic , anti -Semitic, xenophobic bastards that are convinced that they are superior to anyone else. But then, how many women marry a man they are attracted to for some reason, knowing he has many faults that she can't stand but is convinced that she can *change* him. Sorry Anne, bringing large numbers of foreign people here that can't be properly vetted, especially from cultures that have a strong tendency to *not* assimilate and think your culture is inferior is a bad idea. It's a far better idea to put pressure on neighboring countries to absorb the refugees until things settle down. Western and European countries could help foot the bill although the oil rich countries should be able to handle it. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : No one has said anything about *design* to trick anybody. A wealthy person can give all that he has to help the poor and then become poor himself. What has he accomplished? Feeding a bunch of people for a day and then making himself poor as well, At that point, he becomes a victim as well, needing help himself. This is not being smart, not how he became wealthy in the first place. Better to have a strategy that helps all and doesn't hurt anyone. The first rule of the Hippocratic oath is *do no harm*, neither to the patient nor the doctor. A dead doctor doesn't heal anyone! I'm sure Europe doesn't want to go through those bombed out buildings again. No, you used the word "intent" which implies some sort of manipulation of the viewer through the use of these photos. These are journalistic photographs of what is going on, not some staged actors playing the part of victims accompanied by saccharine background music. You can either accept it or not. You can either turn away or not. You can either put yourself mentally/imaginatively in these people's situation or not and try and understand the fear, the uncertainty, the devastation. You can realize that other humans seeking refuge from such horrendous war conditions need help or you might not. You could, certainly, conceive of the fact that human beings coming to this big country we call "America" might add diversity, richness and more humanity instead of having a decimating effect on what you perceive of as "America" or not. It is your choice, your ability or inability or willingness or unwillingness to accept this possibility which determines your status as either compassionate or narrow and small - living in fear and constriction. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2016 8:40 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : This is exactly what I'm referring to when I say
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Right, there is *intent* to play the emotions, especially when you show bloodied children and lifeless bodies. What's the saying... A picture is worth a thousand words. The the next step is that we have to bring them all here into our communities or we are heartless bastards. Just as you predictably pointed out, the excuse is, *They will enrich our communities with diversity* That's just pure BS! There is no way to accurately vet who is coming, what their intent is, how or even if, they will adapt to a foreign culture. Meanwhile, ISIS is infiltrating the ranks of genuine refugees, intent on doing as much harm as they can. Other refugees, not all mind you, who may not be terrorists are exactly what liberals proclaim to hate... violent, misogynistic, homophobic , anti -Semitic, xenophobic bastards that are convinced that they are superior to anyone else. But then, how many women marry a man they are attracted to for some reason, knowing he has many faults that she can't stand but is convinced that she can *change* him. Sorry Anne, bringing large numbers of foreign people here that can't be properly vetted, especially from cultures that have a strong tendency to *not* assimilate and think your culture is inferior is a bad idea. It's a far better idea to put pressure on neighboring countries to absorb the refugees until things settle down. Western and European countries could help foot the bill although the oil rich countries should be able to handle it. Are you always "the glass is half empty" kind of guy, Mike? http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/11/26/refugees-economy-canada_n_8658076.html http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/11/26/refugees-economy-canada_n_8658076.html From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : No one has said anything about *design* to trick anybody. A wealthy person can give all that he has to help the poor and then become poor himself. What has he accomplished? Feeding a bunch of people for a day and then making himself poor as well, At that point, he becomes a victim as well, needing help himself. This is not being smart, not how he became wealthy in the first place. Better to have a strategy that helps all and doesn't hurt anyone. The first rule of the Hippocratic oath is *do no harm*, neither to the patient nor the doctor. A dead doctor doesn't heal anyone! I'm sure Europe doesn't want to go through those bombed out buildings again. No, you used the word "intent" which implies some sort of manipulation of the viewer through the use of these photos. These are journalistic photographs of what is going on, not some staged actors playing the part of victims accompanied by saccharine background music. You can either accept it or not. You can either turn away or not. You can either put yourself mentally/imaginatively in these people's situation or not and try and understand the fear, the uncertainty, the devastation. You can realize that other humans seeking refuge from such horrendous war conditions need help or you might not. You could, certainly, conceive of the fact that human beings coming to this big country we call "America" might add diversity, richness and more humanity instead of having a decimating effect on what you perceive of as "America" or not. It is your choice, your ability or inability or willingness or unwillingness to accept this possibility which determines your status as either compassionate or narrow and small - living in fear and constriction. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2016 8:40 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : This is exactly what I'm referring to when I say *the heart*. All emotion. Such pictures tug on the *heart strings*. The intent is to evoke compassion , for those affected, the desire to help. Nothing wrong with that! Just don't create more and bigger problems with the solution! Don't destroy what you have in the name of helping others out of their unfortunate circumstances. Mike, these images are what they are. They aren't "designed" to do anything - they are what is happening, they are not staged or embellished. Bombed out cities really exist in Syria, real blood is being spilled, families are being decimated. This isn't some fiction made up in Hollywood - these are images captured on camera by journalists. Your final sentence is self serving and remarkably selfish. Don't incon
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Right, there is *intent* to play the emotions, especially when you show bloodied children and lifeless bodies. What's the saying... A picture is worth a thousand words. The the next step is that we have to bring them all here into our communities or we are heartless bastards. Just as you predictably pointed out, the excuse is, *They will enrich our communities with diversity* That's just pure BS! There is no way to accurately vet who is coming, what their intent is, how or even if, they will adapt to a foreign culture. Meanwhile, ISIS is infiltrating the ranks of genuine refugees, intent on doing as much harm as they can. Other refugees, not all mind you, who may not be terrorists are exactly what liberals proclaim to hate... violent, misogynistic, homophobic , anti -Semitic, xenophobic bastards that are convinced that they are superior to anyone else. But then, how many women marry a man they are attracted to for some reason, knowing he has many faults that she can't stand but is convinced that she can *change* him. Sorry Anne, bringing large numbers of foreign people here that can't be properly vetted, especially from cultures that have a strong tendency to *not* assimilate and think your culture is inferior is a bad idea. It's a far better idea to put pressure on neighboring countries to absorb the refugees until things settle down. Western and European countries could help foot the bill although the oil rich countries should be able to handle it. From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : No one has said anything about *design* to trick anybody. A wealthy person can give all that he has to help the poor and then become poor himself. What has he accomplished? Feeding a bunch of people for a day and then making himself poor as well, At that point, he becomes a victim as well, needing help himself. This is not being smart, not how he became wealthy in the first place. Better to have a strategy that helps all and doesn't hurt anyone. The first rule of the Hippocratic oath is *do no harm*, neither to the patient nor the doctor. A dead doctor doesn't heal anyone! I'm sure Europe doesn't want to go through those bombed out buildings again. No, you used the word "intent" which implies some sort of manipulation of the viewer through the use of these photos. These are journalistic photographs of what is going on, not some staged actors playing the part of victims accompanied by saccharine background music. You can either accept it or not. You can either turn away or not. You can either put yourself mentally/imaginatively in these people's situation or not and try and understand the fear, the uncertainty, the devastation. You can realize that other humans seeking refuge from such horrendous war conditions need help or you might not. You could, certainly, conceive of the fact that human beings coming to this big country we call "America" might add diversity, richness and more humanity instead of having a decimating effect on what you perceive of as "America" or not. It is your choice, your ability or inability or willingness or unwillingness to accept this possibility which determines your status as either compassionate or narrow and small - living in fear and constriction. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2016 8:40 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : This is exactly what I'm referring to when I say *the heart*. All emotion. Such pictures tug on the *heart strings*. The intent is to evoke compassion , for those affected, the desire to help. Nothing wrong with that! Just don't create more and bigger problems with the solution! Don't destroy what you have in the name of helping others out of their unfortunate circumstances. Mike, these images are what they are. They aren't "designed" to do anything - they are what is happening, they are not staged or embellished. Bombed out cities really exist in Syria, real blood is being spilled, families are being decimated. This isn't some fiction made up in Hollywood - these are images captured on camera by journalists. Your final sentence is self serving and remarkably selfish. Don't inconvenience yourself or threaten your own comfort by putting yourself out for others who are in danger of losing their lives. No siree, let's just make sure we all have our daily bread and our creature comforts and the rest of those poor sods be damned; fend for yourselves you unlucky bastards. From: "awoelflebater@... [
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : No one has said anything about *design* to trick anybody. A wealthy person can give all that he has to help the poor and then become poor himself. What has he accomplished? Feeding a bunch of people for a day and then making himself poor as well, At that point, he becomes a victim as well, needing help himself. This is not being smart, not how he became wealthy in the first place. Better to have a strategy that helps all and doesn't hurt anyone. The first rule of the Hippocratic oath is *do no harm*, neither to the patient nor the doctor. A dead doctor doesn't heal anyone! I'm sure Europe doesn't want to go through those bombed out buildings again. No, you used the word "intent" which implies some sort of manipulation of the viewer through the use of these photos. These are journalistic photographs of what is going on, not some staged actors playing the part of victims accompanied by saccharine background music. You can either accept it or not. You can either turn away or not. You can either put yourself mentally/imaginatively in these people's situation or not and try and understand the fear, the uncertainty, the devastation. You can realize that other humans seeking refuge from such horrendous war conditions need help or you might not. You could, certainly, conceive of the fact that human beings coming to this big country we call "America" might add diversity, richness and more humanity instead of having a decimating effect on what you perceive of as "America" or not. It is your choice, your ability or inability or willingness or unwillingness to accept this possibility which determines your status as either compassionate or narrow and small - living in fear and constriction. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2016 8:40 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : This is exactly what I'm referring to when I say *the heart*. All emotion. Such pictures tug on the *heart strings*. The intent is to evoke compassion , for those affected, the desire to help. Nothing wrong with that! Just don't create more and bigger problems with the solution! Don't destroy what you have in the name of helping others out of their unfortunate circumstances. Mike, these images are what they are. They aren't "designed" to do anything - they are what is happening, they are not staged or embellished. Bombed out cities really exist in Syria, real blood is being spilled, families are being decimated. This isn't some fiction made up in Hollywood - these are images captured on camera by journalists. Your final sentence is self serving and remarkably selfish. Don't inconvenience yourself or threaten your own comfort by putting yourself out for others who are in danger of losing their lives. No siree, let's just make sure we all have our daily bread and our creature comforts and the rest of those poor sods be damned; fend for yourselves you unlucky bastards. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Maharishi also speaks in the Gita about the balance of heart and mind. One should not rule over the other. If we are all compassionate without thinking things through, we get ourselves in trouble. If we are all mind and intellect, we lose our full potential as humans. There needs to be a balance.Maharishi said Arjuna had a rare balance of both heart and mind. He didn't want to fight and kill his own family and loved ones but he also knew the consequences of not doing his duty. In the end, Arjuna performs his duty and fulfills his dharma. Nobody wants entire populations uprooted and moved into foreign, both culturally and physically, new locations that cause conflict for everyone involved, yet this is the result of past policies in the EU. Europeans are rethinking what they have done and realizing being open and unconditionally welcoming without thinking things through wasn't the smartest move for either migrants or their local populations. There have got to be better ways that have not been explored yet. Well, when you think of what those "better ways" might be have a look at what these fellow human beings are fleeing from/dealing with. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Ag
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again
No one has said anything about *design* to trick anybody. A wealthy person can give all that he has to help the poor and then become poor himself. What has he accomplished? Feeding a bunch of people for a day and then making himself poor as well, At that point, he becomes a victim as well, needing help himself. This is not being smart, not how he became wealthy in the first place. Better to have a strategy that helps all and doesn't hurt anyone. The first rule of the Hippocratic oath is *do no harm*, neither to the patient nor the doctor. A dead doctor doesn't heal anyone! I'm sure Europe doesn't want to go through those bombed out buildings again. From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2016 8:40 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : This is exactly what I'm referring to when I say *the heart*. All emotion. Such pictures tug on the *heart strings*. The intent is to evoke compassion , for those affected, the desire to help. Nothing wrong with that! Just don't create more and bigger problems with the solution! Don't destroy what you have in the name of helping others out of their unfortunate circumstances. Mike, these images are what they are. They aren't "designed" to do anything - they are what is happening, they are not staged or embellished. Bombed out cities really exist in Syria, real blood is being spilled, families are being decimated. This isn't some fiction made up in Hollywood - these are images captured on camera by journalists. Your final sentence is self serving and remarkably selfish. Don't inconvenience yourself or threaten your own comfort by putting yourself out for others who are in danger of losing their lives. No siree, let's just make sure we all have our daily bread and our creature comforts and the rest of those poor sods be damned; fend for yourselves you unlucky bastards. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Maharishi also speaks in the Gita about the balance of heart and mind. One should not rule over the other. If we are all compassionate without thinking things through, we get ourselves in trouble. If we are all mind and intellect, we lose our full potential as humans. There needs to be a balance.Maharishi said Arjuna had a rare balance of both heart and mind. He didn't want to fight and kill his own family and loved ones but he also knew the consequences of not doing his duty. In the end, Arjuna performs his duty and fulfills his dharma. Nobody wants entire populations uprooted and moved into foreign, both culturally and physically, new locations that cause conflict for everyone involved, yet this is the result of past policies in the EU. Europeans are rethinking what they have done and realizing being open and unconditionally welcoming without thinking things through wasn't the smartest move for either migrants or their local populations. There have got to be better ways that have not been explored yet. Well, when you think of what those "better ways" might be have a look at what these fellow human beings are fleeing from/dealing with. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Yes, we saw what the open, welcoming and loving arms of the Europeans brought them. I doubt that the Pope's washing the feet of Muslims will have any affect on Muslims(in general), maybe on his own soul but little on theirs. If you want to be served, you must first serve. Karma. Doesn't mean the person you served is going to serve you back. Indeed , he may serve you with a knife in your back. Another wise man said "Trust but verify". These migrants aren't being vetted. There is little or no verification of their true intent or what they expect to give or receive from their newly adopted countries. What is their capacity to get along? Here is what I say: stop focusing on the Muslims/Syrian immigrants and take note of your neighbors, your country, your fellow Americans. There is enough violence, ignorance, intolerance, religious zealousness and threat to keep you busy without worrying about other countries, other cultures. There is not a continent, a race or a society that is without its fanatics, its desecrations, its cruelty. My point was really about how the Pope is one Christian who practices wha
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : This is exactly what I'm referring to when I say *the heart*. All emotion. Such pictures tug on the *heart strings*. The intent is to evoke compassion , for those affected, the desire to help. Nothing wrong with that! Just don't create more and bigger problems with the solution! Don't destroy what you have in the name of helping others out of their unfortunate circumstances. Mike, these images are what they are. They aren't "designed" to do anything - they are what is happening, they are not staged or embellished. Bombed out cities really exist in Syria, real blood is being spilled, families are being decimated. This isn't some fiction made up in Hollywood - these are images captured on camera by journalists. Your final sentence is self serving and remarkably selfish. Don't inconvenience yourself or threaten your own comfort by putting yourself out for others who are in danger of losing their lives. No siree, let's just make sure we all have our daily bread and our creature comforts and the rest of those poor sods be damned; fend for yourselves you unlucky bastards. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Maharishi also speaks in the Gita about the balance of heart and mind. One should not rule over the other. If we are all compassionate without thinking things through, we get ourselves in trouble. If we are all mind and intellect, we lose our full potential as humans. There needs to be a balance.Maharishi said Arjuna had a rare balance of both heart and mind. He didn't want to fight and kill his own family and loved ones but he also knew the consequences of not doing his duty. In the end, Arjuna performs his duty and fulfills his dharma. Nobody wants entire populations uprooted and moved into foreign, both culturally and physically, new locations that cause conflict for everyone involved, yet this is the result of past policies in the EU. Europeans are rethinking what they have done and realizing being open and unconditionally welcoming without thinking things through wasn't the smartest move for either migrants or their local populations. There have got to be better ways that have not been explored yet. Well, when you think of what those "better ways" might be have a look at what these fellow human beings are fleeing from/dealing with. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Yes, we saw what the open, welcoming and loving arms of the Europeans brought them. I doubt that the Pope's washing the feet of Muslims will have any affect on Muslims(in general), maybe on his own soul but little on theirs. If you want to be served, you must first serve. Karma. Doesn't mean the person you served is going to serve you back. Indeed , he may serve you with a knife in your back. Another wise man said "Trust but verify". These migrants aren't being vetted. There is little or no verification of their true intent or what they expect to give or receive from their newly adopted countries. What is their capacity to get along? Here is what I say: stop focusing on the Muslims/Syrian immigrants and take note of your neighbors, your country, your fellow Americans. There is enough violence, ignorance, intolerance, religious zealousness and threat to keep you busy without worrying about other countries, other cultures. There is not a continent, a race or a society that is without its fanatics, its desecrations, its cruelty. My point was really about how the Pope is one Christian who practices what he preaches, who is not a hypocrite. The amount of "Christians" in the USA who fail miserably at demonstrating the same spirit as this current Pope is astounding. ISIS is one thing, the rest of it is quite another. The inability to recognize this is not only crippling but disastrous. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 9:21 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again I love this guy. http://www.ndtv.com/world-news/pope-francis-washes-feet-of-muslim-migrants-says-we-are-brothers-1290416 http://www.ndtv.com/world-news/pope-francis-washes-feet-of-muslim-migrants-says-we-are-brothers-1290416 Drumpf wants to build walls and deport and the Pope washes and kisses their feet instead. Guess what is the most disarming, breaks down hatred faster?
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This is exactly what I'm referring to when I say *the heart*. All emotion. Such
pictures tug on the *heart strings*. The intent is to evoke compassion , for
those affected, the desire to help. Nothing wrong with that! Just don't create
more and bigger problems with the solution! Don't destroy what you have in the
name of helping others out of their unfortunate circumstances.
From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :
Maharishi also speaks in the Gita about the balance of heart and mind. One
should not rule over the other. If we are all compassionate without thinking
things through, we get ourselves in trouble. If we are all mind and intellect,
we lose our full potential as humans. There needs to be a balance.Maharishi
said Arjuna had a rare balance of both heart and mind. He didn't want to fight
and kill his own family and loved ones but he also knew the consequences of not
doing his duty. In the end, Arjuna performs his duty and fulfills his dharma.
Nobody wants entire populations uprooted and moved into foreign, both
culturally and physically, new locations that cause conflict for everyone
involved, yet this is the result of past policies in the EU. Europeans are
rethinking what they have done and realizing being open and unconditionally
welcoming without thinking things through wasn't the smartest move for either
migrants or their local populations. There have got to be better ways that have
not been explored yet.
Well, when you think of what those "better ways" might be have a look at what
these fellow human beings are fleeing from/dealing with.
From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :
Yes, we saw what the open, welcoming and loving arms of the Europeans brought
them. I doubt that the Pope's washing the feet of Muslims will have any affect
on Muslims(in general), maybe on his own soul but little on theirs. If you want
to be served, you must first serve. Karma. Doesn't mean the person you served
is going to serve you back. Indeed , he may serve you with a knife in your
back. Another wise man said "Trust but verify". These migrants aren't being
vetted. There is little or no verification of their true intent or what they
expect to give or receive from their newly adopted countries. What is their
capacity to get along?
Here is what I say: stop focusing on the Muslims/Syrian immigrants and take
note of your neighbors, your country, your fellow Americans. There is enough
violence, ignorance, intolerance, religious zealousness and threat to keep you
busy without worrying about other countries, other cultures. There is not a
continent, a race or a society that is without its fanatics, its desecrations,
its cruelty. My point was really about how the Pope is one Christian who
practices what he preaches, who is not a hypocrite. The amount of "Christians"
in the USA who fail miserably at demonstrating the same spirit as this current
Pope is astounding. ISIS is one thing, the rest of it is quite another. The
inability to recognize this is not only crippling but disastrous.
From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 9:21 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again
I love this guy.
http://www.ndtv.com/world-news/pope-francis-washes-feet-of-muslim-migrants-says-we-are-brothers-1290416
Drumpf wants to build walls and deport and the Pope washes and kisses their
feet instead. Guess what is the most disarming, breaks down hatred faster?
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Maharishi also speaks in the Gita about the balance of heart and mind. One should not rule over the other. If we are all compassionate without thinking things through, we get ourselves in trouble. If we are all mind and intellect, we lose our full potential as humans. There needs to be a balance.Maharishi said Arjuna had a rare balance of both heart and mind. He didn't want to fight and kill his own family and loved ones but he also knew the consequences of not doing his duty. In the end, Arjuna performs his duty and fulfills his dharma. Nobody wants entire populations uprooted and moved into foreign, both culturally and physically, new locations that cause conflict for everyone involved, yet this is the result of past policies in the EU. Europeans are rethinking what they have done and realizing being open and unconditionally welcoming without thinking things through wasn't the smartest move for either migrants or their local populations. There have got to be better ways that have not been explored yet. Well, when you think of what those "better ways" might be have a look at what these fellow human beings are fleeing from/dealing with. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Yes, we saw what the open, welcoming and loving arms of the Europeans brought them. I doubt that the Pope's washing the feet of Muslims will have any affect on Muslims(in general), maybe on his own soul but little on theirs. If you want to be served, you must first serve. Karma. Doesn't mean the person you served is going to serve you back. Indeed , he may serve you with a knife in your back. Another wise man said "Trust but verify". These migrants aren't being vetted. There is little or no verification of their true intent or what they expect to give or receive from their newly adopted countries. What is their capacity to get along? Here is what I say: stop focusing on the Muslims/Syrian immigrants and take note of your neighbors, your country, your fellow Americans. There is enough violence, ignorance, intolerance, religious zealousness and threat to keep you busy without worrying about other countries, other cultures. There is not a continent, a race or a society that is without its fanatics, its desecrations, its cruelty. My point was really about how the Pope is one Christian who practices what he preaches, who is not a hypocrite. The amount of "Christians" in the USA who fail miserably at demonstrating the same spirit as this current Pope is astounding. ISIS is one thing, the rest of it is quite another. The inability to recognize this is not only crippling but disastrous. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 9:21 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again I love this guy. http://www.ndtv.com/world-news/pope-francis-washes-feet-of-muslim-migrants-says-we-are-brothers-1290416 http://www.ndtv.com/world-news/pope-francis-washes-feet-of-muslim-migrants-says-we-are-brothers-1290416 Drumpf wants to build walls and deport and the Pope washes and kisses their feet instead. Guess what is the most disarming, breaks down hatred faster?
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again Look @ the Vatican wall its 21 Ft high & he took in 2 muslim families & vetted same!!
I'm not sure what your objection was to what Leeds said. Yes, Vatican city is walled off. Yes, the *front porch*(Saint Peter's plaza) is open to the public 24/7. Yes, the rest of Vatican city has controlled entry points beyond the plaza and Basilica. No, not everyone can go where ever they please in Vatican City at any time.One certainly couldn't move into Vatican City uninvited. From: "authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 1:42 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again Look @ the Vatican wall its 21 Ft high & he took in 2 muslim families & vetted same!! Nonsense. Vatican City isn't all behind St. Peter's. Look at a map sometime. And there are guards at each point of entry to the White House as well. Of course there are places you can't just come and go as you please, but the Vatican isn't walled off from the rest of Rome the way Leeds claims. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : St Peter's Basilica acts as a section of the wall in it's self. Just lock the front door and the Vatican is closed off to the public with the exception of the plaza in front. There are Swiss Guards at each point of entry through the wall. Nobody comes and goes as they please beyond certain points. From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 12:48 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again Look @ the Vatican wall its 21 Ft high & he took in 2 muslim families & vetted same!! Not true. There are many openings in the wall around the Vatican. The biggest is the opening that leads to the huge plaza in front of St. Peter's Basilica. Thousands surge through it every time the pope is scheduled to appear; tourists wander through all the time without having to go through any checkpoints. About those Vatican walls ... | | | | | | About those Vatican walls ... Pope Francis called Donald Trump's plan to build a wall on the U.S.-Mexican border "not Christian." His campaign responded: Doesn't Vatican City h... | | | View on www.cnn.com| Preview by Yahoo | | | >From the article: "Yes, the Vatican does have walls, and some are quite large. But anyone can stroll through the Pope's front yard -- St. Peter's Square -- at nearly any time. Only metal detectors stand between the iconic landmark and the millions of tourists who come to see the historic headquarters of the Roman Catholic Church."In other words, Vatican City may have walls, but the front door is always open, said the Rev. James Martin, a Catholic priest and editor at large at America magazine." ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <WLeed3@...> wrote : Wall has guards all about & cameras to protect itself & its treasures Popef POPE tear down Ur walls! -Original Message- From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife] <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Fri, Mar 25, 2016 10:30 am Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again Maharishi also speaks in the Gita about the balance of heart and mind. One should not rule over the other. If we are all compassionate without thinking things through, we get ourselves in trouble. If we are all mind and intellect, we lose our full potential as humans. There needs to be a balance.Maharishi said Arjuna had a rare balance of both heart and mind. He didn't want to fight and kill his own family and loved ones but he also knew the consequences of not doing his duty. In the end, Arjuna performs his duty and fulfills his dharma. Nobody wants entire populations uprooted and moved into foreign, both culturally and physically, new locations that cause conflict for everyone involved, yet this is the result of past policies in the EU. Europeans are rethinking what they have done and realizing being open and unconditionally welcoming without thinking things through wasn't the smartest move for either migrants or their local populations. There have got to be better ways that have not been explored yet. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Yes, we saw what the open, welcoming and loving arms of the Europeans brought them. I doubt that the Pope's washing the feet of Muslims will have any affect on Muslims(in general), maybe on his own soul but little on theirs. If you want to be served, you must first serve. Karma. Doesn't mean the person you served is going to serve you back. Indeed , he may serve you with a knif
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again Look @ the Vatican wall its 21 Ft high & he took in 2 muslim families & vetted same!!
Nonsense. Vatican City isn't all behind St. Peter's. Look at a map sometime. And there are guards at each point of entry to the White House as well. Of course there are places you can't just come and go as you please, but the Vatican isn't walled off from the rest of Rome the way Leeds claims. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : St Peter's Basilica acts as a section of the wall in it's self. Just lock the front door and the Vatican is closed off to the public with the exception of the plaza in front. There are Swiss Guards at each point of entry through the wall. Nobody comes and goes as they please beyond certain points. From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 12:48 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again Look @ the Vatican wall its 21 Ft high & he took in 2 muslim families & vetted same!! Not true. There are many openings in the wall around the Vatican. The biggest is the opening that leads to the huge plaza in front of St. Peter's Basilica. Thousands surge through it every time the pope is scheduled to appear; tourists wander through all the time without having to go through any checkpoints. About those Vatican walls ... http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/18/world/vatican-walls/index.html http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/18/world/vatican-walls/index.html About those Vatican walls ... http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/18/world/vatican-walls/index.html Pope Francis called Donald Trump's plan to build a wall on the U.S.-Mexican border "not Christian." His campaign responded: Doesn't Vatican City h... View on www.cnn.com http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/18/world/vatican-walls/index.html Preview by Yahoo From the article: "Yes, the Vatican does have walls, and some are quite large. But anyone can stroll through the Pope's front yard -- St. Peter's Square -- at nearly any time. Only metal detectors stand between the iconic landmark and the millions of tourists who come to see the historic headquarters of the Roman Catholic Church. "In other words, Vatican City may have walls, but the front door is always open, said the Rev. James Martin, a Catholic priest and editor at large at America magazine." ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <WLeed3@...> wrote : Wall has guards all about & cameras to protect itself & its treasures Popef POPE tear down Ur walls! -Original Message- From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife] <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Fri, Mar 25, 2016 10:30 am Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again Maharishi also speaks in the Gita about the balance of heart and mind. One should not rule over the other. If we are all compassionate without thinking things through, we get ourselves in trouble. If we are all mind and intellect, we lose our full potential as humans. There needs to be a balance.Maharishi said Arjuna had a rare balance of both heart and mind. He didn't want to fight and kill his own family and loved ones but he also knew the consequences of not doing his duty. In the end, Arjuna performs his duty and fulfills his dharma. Nobody wants entire populations uprooted and moved into foreign, both culturally and physically , new locations that cause conflict for everyone involved, yet this is the result of past policies in the EU. Europeans are rethinking what they have done and realizing being open and unconditionally welcoming without thinking things through wasn't the smartest move for either migrants or their local populations. There have got to be better ways that have not been explored yet. From: "awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Yes, we saw what the open, welcoming and loving arms of the Europeans brought them. I doubt that the Pope's washing the feet of Muslims will have any affect on Muslims(in general), maybe on his own soul but little on theirs. If you want to be served, you must first serve. Karma. Doesn't mean the person you served is going to serve you back. Indeed , he may serve you with a knife in your back. Another wise man said "Trust but verify". These migrants aren't being vett ed. There is little or no verification of their true intent or what they expect to give or receive from their newly adopted countries. What is their capacity to get along? Here is what
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again Look @ the Vatican wall its 21 Ft high & he took in 2 muslim families & vetted same!!
St Peter's Basilica acts as a section of the wall in it's self. Just lock the front door and the Vatican is closed off to the public with the exception of the plaza in front. There are Swiss Guards at each point of entry through the wall. Nobody comes and goes as they please beyond certain points. From: "authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 12:48 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again Look @ the Vatican wall its 21 Ft high & he took in 2 muslim families & vetted same!! Not true. There are many openings in the wall around the Vatican. The biggest is the opening that leads to the huge plaza in front of St. Peter's Basilica. Thousands surge through it every time the pope is scheduled to appear; tourists wander through all the time without having to go through any checkpoints. About those Vatican walls ... || |||| About those Vatican walls ... Pope Francis called Donald Trump's plan to build a wall on the U.S.-Mexican border "not Christian." His campaign responded: Doesn't Vatican City h...|| | View on www.cnn.com |Preview by Yahoo| || >From the article: "Yes, the Vatican does have walls, and some are quite large. But anyone can stroll through the Pope's front yard -- St. Peter's Square -- at nearly any time. Only metal detectors stand between the iconic landmark and the millions of tourists who come to see the historic headquarters of the Roman Catholic Church."In other words, Vatican City may have walls, but the front door is always open, said the Rev. James Martin, a Catholic priest and editor at large at America magazine." ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <WLeed3@...> wrote : Wall has guards all about & cameras to protect itself & its treasures Popef POPE tear down Ur walls! -Original Message- From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife] <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Fri, Mar 25, 2016 10:30 am Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again Maharishi also speaks in the Gita about the balance of heart and mind. One should not rule over the other. If we are all compassionate without thinking things through, we get ourselves in trouble. If we are all mind and intellect, we lose our full potential as humans. There needs to be a balance.Maharishi said Arjuna had a rare balance of both heart and mind. He didn't want to fight and kill his own family and loved ones but he also knew the consequences of not doing his duty. In the end, Arjuna performs his duty and fulfills his dharma. Nobody wants entire populations uprooted and moved into foreign, both culturally and physically, new locations that cause conflict for everyone involved, yet this is the result of past policies in the EU. Europeans are rethinking what they have done and realizing being open and unconditionally welcoming without thinking things through wasn't the smartest move for either migrants or their local populations. There have got to be better ways that have not been explored yet. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Yes, we saw what the open, welcoming and loving arms of the Europeans brought them. I doubt that the Pope's washing the feet of Muslims will have any affect on Muslims(in general), maybe on his own soul but little on theirs. If you want to be served, you must first serve. Karma. Doesn't mean the person you served is going to serve you back. Indeed , he may serve you with a knife in your back. Another wise man said "Trust but verify". These migrants aren't being vetted. There is little or no verification of their true intent or what they expect to give or receive from their newly adopted countries. What is their capacity to get along? Here is what I say: stop focusing on the Muslims/Syrian immigrants and take note of your neighbors, your country, your fellow Americans. There is enough violence, ignorance, intolerance, religiouszealousness and threat to keep you busy without worrying about other countries, other cultures. There is not a continent, a race or a society that is without its fanatics, its desecrations, its cruelty. My point was really about how the Pope is one Christian who practices what he preaches, who is not a hypocrite. The amount of "Christians" in the USA who fail miserably at demonstrating the same spirit as this current Pope is astounding. ISIS is one thing, the rest of it is quite another. The inability to recognize this is not only crippling but disastrous
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again Look @ the Vatican wall its 21 Ft high & he took in 2 muslim families & vetted same!!
Not true. There are many openings in the wall around the Vatican. The biggest is the opening that leads to the huge plaza in front of St. Peter's Basilica. Thousands surge through it every time the pope is scheduled to appear; tourists wander through all the time without having to go through any checkpoints. About those Vatican walls ... http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/18/world/vatican-walls/index.html http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/18/world/vatican-walls/index.html About those Vatican walls ... http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/18/world/vatican-walls/index.html Pope Francis called Donald Trump's plan to build a wall on the U.S.-Mexican border "not Christian." His campaign responded: Doesn't Vatican City h... View on www.cnn.com http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/18/world/vatican-walls/index.html Preview by Yahoo From the article: "Yes, the Vatican does have walls, and some are quite large. But anyone can stroll through the Pope's front yard -- St. Peter's Square -- at nearly any time. Only metal detectors stand between the iconic landmark and the millions of tourists who come to see the historic headquarters of the Roman Catholic Church. "In other words, Vatican City may have walls, but the front door is always open, said the Rev. James Martin, a Catholic priest and editor at large at America magazine." ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <WLeed3@...> wrote : Wall has guards all about & cameras to protect itself & its treasures Popef POPE tear down Ur walls! -Original Message- From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife] <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Fri, Mar 25, 2016 10:30 am Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again Maharishi also speaks in the Gita about the balance of heart and mind. One should not rule over the other. If we are all compassionate without thinking things through, we get ourselves in trouble. If we are all mind and intellect, we lose our full potential as humans. There needs to be a balance.Maharishi said Arjuna had a rare balance of both heart and mind. He didn't want to fight and kill his own family and loved ones but he also knew the consequences of not doing his duty. In the end, Arjuna performs his duty and fulfills his dharma. Nobody wants entire populations uprooted and moved into foreign, both culturally and physically , new locations that cause conflict for everyone involved, yet this is the result of past policies in the EU. Europeans are rethinking what they have done and realizing being open and unconditionally welcoming without thinking things through wasn't the smartest move for either migrants or their local populations. There have got to be better ways that have not been explored yet. From: "awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Yes, we saw what the open, welcoming and loving arms of the Europeans brought them. I doubt that the Pope's washing the feet of Muslims will have any affect on Muslims(in general), maybe on his own soul but little on theirs. If you want to be served, you must first serve. Karma. Doesn't mean the person you served is going to serve you back. Indeed , he may serve you with a knife in your back. Another wise man said "Trust but verify". These migrants aren't being vett ed. There is little or no verification of their true intent or what they expect to give or receive from their newly adopted countries. What is their capacity to get along? Here is what I say: stop focusing on the Muslims/Syrian immigrants and take note of your neighbors, your country, your fellow Americans. There is enough violence, ignorance, intolerance, religious zealousness and threat to keep you busy without worrying about other countries, other cultures. There is not a continent, a race or a society that is without its fanatics, its desecrations, its cruelty. My point was really about how the Pope is one Christian who practices what he preaches, who is not a hypocrite. The amount of "Christians" in the USA who fail miserably at demonstrating the same spirit as this current Pope is astounding. ISIS is one thing, the rest of it is quite another. The inability to recognize this is not only crippling but disastrous. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 24, 201
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again Look @ the Vatican wall its 21 Ft high & he took in 2 muslim families & vetted same!!
Wall has guards all about & cameras to protect itself & its treasures Popef POPE tear down Ur walls! -Original Message- From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Fri, Mar 25, 2016 10:30 am Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again Maharishi also speaks in the Gita about the balance of heart and mind. One should not rule over the other. If we are all compassionate without thinking things through, we get ourselves in trouble. If we are all mind and intellect, we lose our full potential as humans. There needs to be a balance.Maharishi said Arjuna had a rare balance of both heart and mind. He didn't want to fight and kill his own family and loved ones but he also knew the consequences of not doing his duty. In the end, Arjuna performs his duty and fulfills his dharma. Nobody wants entire populations uprooted and moved into foreign, both culturally and physically , new locations that cause conflict for everyone involved, yet this is the result of past policies in the EU. Europeans are rethinking what they have done and realizing being open and unconditionally welcoming without thinking things through wasn't the smartest move for either migrants or their local populations. There have got to be better ways that have not been explored yet. From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Yes, we saw what the open, welcoming and loving arms of the Europeans brought them. I doubt that the Pope's washing the feet of Muslims will have any affect on Muslims(in general), maybe on his own soul but little on theirs. If you want to be served, you must first serve. Karma. Doesn't mean the person you served is going to serve you back. Indeed , he may serve you with a knife in your back. Another wise man said "Trust but verify". These migrants aren't being vett ed. There is little or no verification of their true intent or what they expect to give or receive from their newly adopted countries. What is their capacity to get along? Here is what I say: stop focusing on the Muslims/Syrian immigrants and take note of your neighbors, your country, your fellow Americans. There is enough violence, ignorance, intolerance, religious zealousness and threat to keep you busy without worrying about other countries, other cultures. There is not a continent, a race or a society that is without its fanatics, its desecrations, its cruelty. My point was really about how the Pope is one Christian who practices what he preaches, who is not a hypocrite. The amount of "Christians" in the USA who fail miserably at demonstrating the same spirit as this current Pope is astounding. ISIS is one thing, the rest of it is quite another. The inability to recognize this is not only crippling but disastrous. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 9:21 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again I love this guy. http://www.ndtv.com/world-news/pope-francis-washes-feet-of-muslim-migrants-says-we-are-brothers-1290416 Drumpf wants to build walls and deport and the Pope washes and kisses their feet instead. Guess what is the most disarming, breaks down hatred faster?
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again
Maharishi also speaks in the Gita about the balance of heart and mind. One
should not rule over the other. If we are all compassionate without thinking
things through, we get ourselves in trouble. If we are all mind and intellect,
we lose our full potential as humans. There needs to be a balance.Maharishi
said Arjuna had a rare balance of both heart and mind. He didn't want to fight
and kill his own family and loved ones but he also knew the consequences of not
doing his duty. In the end, Arjuna performs his duty and fulfills his dharma.
Nobody wants entire populations uprooted and moved into foreign, both
culturally and physically, new locations that cause conflict for everyone
involved, yet this is the result of past policies in the EU. Europeans are
rethinking what they have done and realizing being open and unconditionally
welcoming without thinking things through wasn't the smartest move for either
migrants or their local populations. There have got to be better ways that have
not been explored yet.
From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :
Yes, we saw what the open, welcoming and loving arms of the Europeans brought
them. I doubt that the Pope's washing the feet of Muslims will have any affect
on Muslims(in general), maybe on his own soul but little on theirs. If you want
to be served, you must first serve. Karma. Doesn't mean the person you served
is going to serve you back. Indeed , he may serve you with a knife in your
back. Another wise man said "Trust but verify". These migrants aren't being
vetted. There is little or no verification of their true intent or what they
expect to give or receive from their newly adopted countries. What is their
capacity to get along?
Here is what I say: stop focusing on the Muslims/Syrian immigrants and take
note of your neighbors, your country, your fellow Americans. There is enough
violence, ignorance, intolerance, religious zealousness and threat to keep you
busy without worrying about other countries, other cultures. There is not a
continent, a race or a society that is without its fanatics, its desecrations,
its cruelty. My point was really about how the Pope is one Christian who
practices what he preaches, who is not a hypocrite. The amount of "Christians"
in the USA who fail miserably at demonstrating the same spirit as this current
Pope is astounding. ISIS is one thing, the rest of it is quite another. The
inability to recognize this is not only crippling but disastrous.
From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 9:21 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again
I love this guy.
http://www.ndtv.com/world-news/pope-francis-washes-feet-of-muslim-migrants-says-we-are-brothers-1290416
Drumpf wants to build walls and deport and the Pope washes and kisses their
feet instead. Guess what is the most disarming, breaks down hatred faster?
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Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Yes, we saw what the open, welcoming and loving arms of the Europeans brought them. I doubt that the Pope's washing the feet of Muslims will have any affect on Muslims(in general), maybe on his own soul but little on theirs. If you want to be served, you must first serve. Karma. Doesn't mean the person you served is going to serve you back. Indeed , he may serve you with a knife in your back. Another wise man said "Trust but verify". These migrants aren't being vetted. There is little or no verification of their true intent or what they expect to give or receive from their newly adopted countries. What is their capacity to get along? Here is what I say: stop focusing on the Muslims/Syrian immigrants and take note of your neighbors, your country, your fellow Americans. There is enough violence, ignorance, intolerance, religious zealousness and threat to keep you busy without worrying about other countries, other cultures. There is not a continent, a race or a society that is without its fanatics, its desecrations, its cruelty. My point was really about how the Pope is one Christian who practices what he preaches, who is not a hypocrite. The amount of "Christians" in the USA who fail miserably at demonstrating the same spirit as this current Pope is astounding. ISIS is one thing, the rest of it is quite another. The inability to recognize this is not only crippling but disastrous. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 9:21 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again I love this guy. http://www.ndtv.com/world-news/pope-francis-washes-feet-of-muslim-migrants-says-we-are-brothers-1290416 http://www.ndtv.com/world-news/pope-francis-washes-feet-of-muslim-migrants-says-we-are-brothers-1290416 Drumpf wants to build walls and deport and the Pope washes and kisses their feet instead. Guess what is the most disarming, breaks down hatred faster?
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again
Yes, we saw what the open, welcoming and loving arms of the Europeans brought
them. I doubt that the Pope's washing the feet of Muslims will have any affect
on Muslims(in general), maybe on his own soul but little on theirs. If you want
to be served, you must first serve. Karma. Doesn't mean the person you served
is going to serve you back. Indeed , he may serve you with a knife in your
back. Another wise man said "Trust but verify". These migrants aren't being
vetted. There is little or no verification of their true intent or what they
expect to give or receive from their newly adopted countries. What is their
capacity to get along?
From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 9:21 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again
I love this guy.
http://www.ndtv.com/world-news/pope-francis-washes-feet-of-muslim-migrants-says-we-are-brothers-1290416
Drumpf wants to build walls and deport and the Pope washes and kisses their
feet instead. Guess what is the most disarming, breaks down hatred faster?
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[FairfieldLife] The Pope - Again
I love this guy. http://www.ndtv.com/world-news/pope-francis-washes-feet-of-muslim-migrants-says-we-are-brothers-1290416 http://www.ndtv.com/world-news/pope-francis-washes-feet-of-muslim-migrants-says-we-are-brothers-1290416 Drumpf wants to build walls and deport and the Pope washes and kisses their feet instead. Guess what is the most disarming, breaks down hatred faster?
