Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I quit

[Peter]

--- On Wed, 7/16/08, curtisdeltablues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: curtisdeltablues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I quit
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, July 16, 2008, 1:04 PM
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
> "curtisdeltablues" 
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > > It seems to me that other aspects of
> MMY's teaching
> > > > imply that for a siddhi to occur, Nature has
> to "want"
> > > > it to occur. Or to put it another way, what
> the person
> > > > in higher consciousness wants can only be
> what Nature
> > > > "wants."
> > > 
> >  
> > > I guess this reasoning might provide some solace
> to the TBs
> > > (I am not talking about Judy here especially
> after her
> > > excellent point about the Constitution in another
> post) but
> > > it is lame in the light of the many "Yogic
> flying"
> > > demonstrations and promotion of the "special
> abilities"
> > > gained by the sidhis at this point.
> > 
> > Or maybe those are what are lame.
> 
> Sidhas have only one person to thank for this
> "lameness."

Nature insists that I respond to this post.




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I quit

[Vaj]

On Jul 16, 2008, at 10:44 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:


The mechanics of such "spiritual enslavement" are actually quite
interesting. A favorite way is to force kundalini up an aberrant
path: the student thinks s/he is having some sort of awakening or
profound unstressing but instead ends up trapped in some pattern
which cannot culminate in unity, although they may receive the
occasional "glimpse". Terrorist groups throughout history have
used similar techniques like scaring the person to death, it
forces kundalini "awake" but the incredible fear guarantees an
imbalanced awakening and a person stuck in limbo who is ready for
whatever indoctrination the "guru" wants to imprint. The real life
idea of zombification in Voudoun also relies on a similar technique
where the person is paralyzed into a drug induced coma and then
buried alive (an old African "shamanic" technique). The total fear
of being buried alive, once again guarantees the kundalini will
awaken, but in a way that leaves the person trapped and easily
manipulable.


Less occult and flashy :-) but equally effective
is to put a person into an altered state of conscious-
ness, one in which he is disoriented and unable to
focus properly, and then forcing him to watch videos
or listen to indoctrination lectures for hours a day.

Does anyone here remember ever feeling "spaced out"
on a TM residence course? Ever feel as if you
couldn't quite focus properly, and were disoriented?
When I worked in the Regional Office, this was such
a "known issue" that we had received clear instruc-
tions from Maharishi and International Staff that
course participants were not to be allowed to leave
the premises of the course, for any reason.


I know, I find that odd too. What's THAT about? I just haven't found  
this in other meditation techniques--in fact side effects were  
unusual or simply never occurred. I have to wonder if it's a subtle  
(or not so subtle) form of mood-making. Interestingly, some have  
reported that although SSRS teaches the same meditation technique,  
there's less moodmaking in the org and so less side effects in the  
practitioners.



The
reason given was that it was felt that they'd wander
off and get into trouble or have an accident as a
result of being spaced out, and that trouble would
reflect badly on the TMO. (No concern was ever
expressed for the course participants themselves.)


The instructions not to leave a residence course under any  
circumstances were in place by the time of my first residence course  
back in 74.




And so what did these spaced-out people DO on these
courses when they weren't either meditating or eating
or sleeping? They sat in front of TVs and lecturers
and sat through hours and hours a day of indoctrination.
Could there have been a bit of susceptibility to
suggestion goin' down? I think there could have been.

As a side note, Vaj, my experience on other non-TM
in-residence courses and retreats is that I *never*
felt spaced out. On the contrary, there was a marked
*increase* in clarity of thought and action and the
ability to focus and handle worldly tasks. This was
noticed and remarked upon by all participants in the
retreat, who were always allowed to go freely into
town or anywhere they wanted, because there was no
reason for them not to.


Same here.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I quit

[Vaj]

On Jul 16, 2008, at 10:00 AM, Peter wrote:




--- On Wed, 7/16/08, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I quit
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, July 16, 2008, 9:18 AM



There have always been paths of freedom and paths of enslavement,  
so this is hardly new. Just the same old, same old pattern of deep  
suffering overshadowing our innate authenticity. Some "masters"  
will enslave their students, while others will set theirs free.


SSRS once mentioned this too. He said some masters enslave their  
students. Gee, I wonder who he was talking about?


The mechanics of such "spiritual enslavement" are actually quite  
interesting. A favorite way is to force kundalini up an aberrant  
path: the student thinks s/he is having some sort of awakening or  
profound unstressing but instead ends up trapped in some pattern  
which cannot culminate in unity, although they may receive the  
occasional "glimpse". Terrorist groups throughout history have used  
similar techniques like scaring the person to death, it forces  
kundalini "awake" but the incredible fear guarantees an imbalanced  
awakening and a person stuck in limbo who is ready for whatever  
indoctrination the "guru" wants to imprint. The real life idea of  
zombification in Voudoun also relies on a similar technique where the  
person is paralyzed into a drug induced coma and then buried alive  
(an old African "shamanic" technique). The total fear of being buried  
alive, once again guarantees the kundalini will awaken, but in a way  
that leaves the person trapped and easily manipulable.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I quit

[Peter]

--- On Wed, 7/16/08, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I quit
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, July 16, 2008, 9:18 AM





 
There have always been paths of freedom and paths of enslavement, so this is 
hardly new. Just the same old, same old pattern of deep suffering overshadowing 
our innate authenticity. Some "masters" will enslave their students, while 
others will set theirs free.
 
SSRS once mentioned this too. He said some masters enslave their students. Gee, 
I wonder who he was talking about?
 
 
 
  


  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I quit

[Vaj]

On Jul 16, 2008, at 8:04 AM, Peter wrote:

I assure you Nabs I have read all about this elusive master on this  
website and well before in the 1980's when Mr. Creme was working  
this fraud. When Charlie Lutes was asked about Creme he said that  
Creme was being deluded by an astral being. Sounds good to me. No  
master would use "doubles" or speak in "disquise". Why? This is  
just silly nonsense. Perhaps there is a master called Maitrya, but  
he ain't speaking through Creme!



I remember the first time I heard of Creme, it was in FF in  the  
early 80's where a course participant whispered about his  
proclamations and pronouncements. Later it was revealed that several  
of the "sidhas" were also channelling various "entities" and could,  
on the sly of course, be met in their rooms or in some secret  
location sub rosa for a "consultation". It seemed admirers of La  
Creme often had a secret wish and motivation to be front men for some  
subconscious "entity" and had decided to enslave themselves to these  
"beings" with their questionable advice and integrity. Of course the  
TMO pseudoscience mythos encouraged us all be become salespeople,  
pimping Duh Ved (or our own channelled illusion).


And thus they became subtle slaves to the siddhis, just like the  
sages so universally warned.


There have always been paths of freedom and paths of enslavement, so  
this is hardly new. Just the same old, same old pattern of deep  
suffering overshadowing our innate authenticity. Some "masters" will  
enslave their students, while others will set theirs free.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I quit

[Peter]

--- On Wed, 7/16/08, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I quit
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, July 16, 2008, 6:25 AM
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- On Tue, 7/15/08, nablusoss1008
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > From: nablusoss1008
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I quit
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 7:49 PM
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
> "R.G."
> > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >  (snip)
> > > >  
> > > >  For  example, even back in the 70's I
> did not
> > > feel that TM should be 
> > > > taught in public schools, 
> > > > > altho MMY was having Jerry Jarvis and
> others
> > > defend the TMO in 
> > > > court.  I just saw that 
> > > > > issue as an area where MMY and I did
> not agree,
> > > at least as far as 
> > > > the Relative goes.
> > > >  (snip)
> > > > That worked out really well.
> > > > Look at what has happened the schools;
> > > > Meditation could have saved many kids in
> school from
> > > the chaos the 
> > > > schools have become.
> > > > But, that's the way it goes...
> > > 
> > > Thanks for posting this. 
> > > If only 10% of all of Maharishis strong
> suggestions for
> > > implementing 
> > > Vedic Science in America had been implemented in
> that
> > > country, it would 
> > > face a very different karma than currently.
> > 
> > You don't know that. Again you are confounding
> your wish with 
> reality. You believe that such a thing would be so based on
> your huge 
> investment in the dogma of the TMO. Nothing could ever
> prove the TMO 
> wrong to you. Always an ad hoc explanation, always a
> rationalization 
> to excuse the failure of the TMO to make good on its
> predictions or 
> plans. I mean face it, Nabs, you believe in the fantasy of
> a perfect 
> master who speaks through a very curious and idiosyncratic
> Englishman 
> (and I'm being kind here). Why can't the alleged
> master speak for 
> himself. Probably the first time in history a
> "master" speaks through 
> someone else.
> 
> You are not very well informed, as usual. To be stuck in
> intellectual 
> reasoning certainly has it's drawbacks. 
> He does speak for Himself on a daily basis, in disquise
> that is using 
> so-called "doubles", and He is also
> "using" Benjamin Creme who is one 
> of several doing this service.
> If you wanted to learn more instead of simply exposing your
> ignorance 
> of this field you could visit:
> 
> http://shareintl.org/magazine/SI_current.htm

I assure you Nabs I have read all about this elusive master on this website and 
well before in the 1980's when Mr. Creme was working this fraud. When Charlie 
Lutes was asked about Creme he said that Creme was being deluded by an astral 
being. Sounds good to me. No master would use "doubles" or speak in "disquise". 
Why? This is just silly nonsense. Perhaps there is a master called Maitrya, but 
he ain't speaking through Creme!




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RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: I quit

[gullible fool]

She probably wasn’t levitating, but making some noises or new contortions which 
she defined as “an advanced form of levitation.”
 
Did her nickname rhyme with biss ninny?
 
Heh Rick, where are you? I was looking for you. Just got back from darshan. 
Left around 3:30. Doing only the retreat or not making the trip after all?

"...but mountain doesn't move!"

--- On Tue, 7/15/08, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: I quit
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 6:58 PM








 


From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R.G.
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 5:33 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I quit
 



I posted that I had spoken to a woman, I can't remember her name 
right now, hopefully I will remember...
She was always regarded as having advanced experiences and I had no 
reason not to believe her.
She told me that she had started to experience a more advanced form 
of levitition and was asked to leave the dome, because it was too 
destracting to other's in the dome.
She probably wasn’t levitating, but making some noises or new contortions which 
she defined as “an advanced form of levitation.”
  


  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I quit

[Peter]

--- On Tue, 7/15/08, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I quit
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 7:49 PM
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "R.G."
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >  (snip)
> >  
> >  For  example, even back in the 70's I did not
> feel that TM should be 
> > taught in public schools, 
> > > altho MMY was having Jerry Jarvis and others
> defend the TMO in 
> > court.  I just saw that 
> > > issue as an area where MMY and I did not agree,
> at least as far as 
> > the Relative goes.
> >  (snip)
> > That worked out really well.
> > Look at what has happened the schools;
> > Meditation could have saved many kids in school from
> the chaos the 
> > schools have become.
> > But, that's the way it goes...
> 
> Thanks for posting this. 
> If only 10% of all of Maharishis strong suggestions for
> implementing 
> Vedic Science in America had been implemented in that
> country, it would 
> face a very different karma than currently.

You don't know that. Again you are confounding your wish with reality. You 
believe that such a thing would be so based on your huge investment in the 
dogma of the TMO. Nothing could ever prove the TMO wrong to you. Always an ad 
hoc explanation, always a rationalization to excuse the failure of the TMO to 
make good on its predictions or plans. I mean face it, Nabs, you believe in the 
fantasy of a perfect master who speaks through a very curious and idiosyncratic 
Englishman (and I'm being kind here). Why can't the alleged master speak for 
himself. Probably the first time in history a "master" speaks through someone 
else.






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RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: I quit

[Rick Archer]

 

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of R.G.
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 5:33 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I quit

 

I posted that I had spoken to a woman, I can't remember her name 
right now, hopefully I will remember...
She was always regarded as having advanced experiences and I had no 
reason not to believe her.
She told me that she had started to experience a more advanced form 
of levitition and was asked to leave the dome, because it was too 
destracting to other's in the dome.

She probably wasn't levitating, but making some noises or new contortions
which she defined as "an advanced form of levitation."

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I quit

[Peter]

--- On Tue, 7/15/08, R.G. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: R.G. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I quit
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 6:32 PM
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
>  wrote:
> >  And as far as that poster claiming the TMO kicked a
> guy out of the 
> > Fairfield flying hall because he was flying. Not
> even worth a 
> > response 
> > 
> > 30 years is a long time for someone without
> perspective.
> > As for the rumour about that "flying" fellow
> who was kicked out of 
> the 
> > Dome ? It's an obvious lie but that should most
> definately not stop 
> > Rick Archer from perpetuating it since this is your
> main field of 
> > interest.
> >
> I posted that I had spoken to a woman, I can't remember
> her name 
> right now, hopefully I will remember...
> She was always regarded as having advanced experiences and
> I had no 
> reason not to believe her.
> She told me that she had started to experience a more
> advanced form 
> of levitition and was asked to leave the dome, because it
> was too 
> destracting to other's in the dome.
> I will do research on this and report back when I can
> remember more.
> This conversation took place back around 1992...

Sorry, Absolutely untrue. Nobody was flying in either the men's or women's 
domes in the early 90's. How the hell people can believe this is just amazing. 
Again, I'd love it if someone actually flew, but it has not happened. True lack 
of intellectual discrimination if you belief somebody has flown.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I quit

[Bhairitu]

shempmcgurk wrote:
> I think he is the classic example of the TM cultist.  He attempts to 
> parrot TM Speak in almost every response he gives on this forum.
>
> I also once got a private email from a lurker from Scandinavia who 
> claimed that he knew Nabby and said that he had to leave the TMO 
> because of mental problems and that he is well known in the movement 
> in his country as being unbalanced and everyone in the movement there 
> stays away from him as a result.  That would explain why he hangs out 
> here alot.
We had a few of those around the center where I was in the 1970s.  I 
first got introduced to them when I became a checker before my TTC.  The 
teachers would palm the kooks off on me to check because they didn't 
want to deal with them.  They were also known to run when they saw one 
coming or *try* to be polite if they had to speak with them.   These 
people were often mentally vata and would talk your ear off and bore you 
to death.

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: I quit

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of shempmcgurk
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 12:55 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I quit

 

>I also once got a private email from a lurker from Scandinavia who 
claimed that he knew Nabby and said that he had to leave the TMO 
because of mental problems and that he is well known in the movement 
in his country as being unbalanced and everyone in the movement there 
stays away from him as a result. That would explain why he hangs out 
here a lot.

IOW, birds of a feather.

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: I quit

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of wayback71
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 11:48 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I quit

 

>Could it be that Nabby is pulling everyone's collective leg on FFL? That he
is not really a 
TB? Just getting everyone riled up with outrageous statements, and then
sitting back and 
watching everyone reply? Most TB's I know are not like Nabby. And they would
not engage 
on FFL.

Could be, in which case he's a brilliant spoofer, but I think he's for real.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I quit

[Vaj]

On Jul 15, 2008, at 11:39 AM, geezerfreak wrote:

Zat so Judy?  Ruth and I also have a cordial e-mail relationship.  
What you are describing
does not jive with my conversations with her. You say all of this  
now that she's gone and

cannot refute any of it of course.



I had the same impression as you in off list emails with Ruthie.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I quit

[Vaj]

On Jul 15, 2008, at 10:50 AM, authfriend wrote:


(Rick, since you were so thoughtful as to forward
Barry's post to Ruth, I'm sure you'll be happy to
forward my response as well. Right?)



Wow, Barry really nailed the stalking thing, huh?

Would you like her home address?

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: I quit

[Rick Archer]

 

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of authfriend
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 9:50 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I quit

 

(Rick, since you were so thoughtful as to forward
Barry's post to Ruth, I'm sure you'll be happy to
forward my response as well. Right?)

Right. Done.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I quit

[Vaj]

On Jul 15, 2008, at 9:58 AM, authfriend wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I forwarded this to Ruth since she had unsubscribed.


I don't suppose you told her, though, that virtually
*nothing* in it is true, now, did you?

(Ruth, BTW, will know for a fact that *some* of it
isn't true. If she's as smart as I think she is,
she'll be dubious about the rest as well.)



I'm sure she'll hear the ring of truth in it (as many of us did) when  
we read it Judy.

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: I quit

[Rick Archer]

 

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of nablusoss1008
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 6:49 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I quit

 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>And as far as that poster claiming the TMO kicked a guy out of the 
Fairfield flying hall because he was flying. Not even worth a 
response 

>30 years is a long time for someone without perspective.
As for the rumour about that "flying" fellow who was kicked out of the 
Dome ? It's an obvious lie but that should most definately not stop 
Rick Archer from perpetuating it since this is your main field of 
interest.

Actually, I just refuted it in a previous post, before reading this one. In
other words, no one was flying in the dome. I live here in FF, have many
friends in the domes, and would have heard about it. So no one was kicked
out for flying in the dome. And if someone were flying in the dome, that
person would be made a TMO celebrity, not kicked out.

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: I quit

[Rick Archer]

I forwarded this to Ruth since she had unsubscribed.

 

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of TurquoiseB
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 2:44 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I quit

 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , ruthsimplicity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Thanks to almost all of you for being here to teach me bunches! 
> 
> Anyone think that a 10 yard hop claim isn't a levitation claim? 
> 
> Oh well. I can't seem to stay here on the terms I had set for 
> myself, with no interaction with a certain poster, so I am 
> outtahere. 

Ruth, you will be missed. As for that "certain
poster," she is merely doing what she has done
on this forum and other forums for years.

To put things in perspective for you -- and
this is my OPINION -- Judy has this "territory"
thang going on with the forums she participates
in. She's like a dog going around peeing on trees
to mark her territory. Her...uh...dogging of you
and constant attempts to lure you into a head-
to-head argument with her weren't necessarily
personal, it's just what she DOES to mark her
territory.

In your case she tried to lure you into head-to-
head arguments more than she does some others
because 1) you make more sense than she does, 2)
people believe what you say, whereas they don't
believe what she says, and most important 3)
you're a woman. Judy has a history of attempting
to drive any strong woman off of any forum she
is part of. It started back on a.m.t., and 
continues to this day. In this respect, she is
in my opinion more of a guy than the guys are. 
It must be her butch side coming out.

Anyway, I for one will be sorry to see you go.
I understand that you don't believe that I 
really experienced some of the things I've talked
about, and that's just fine in my opinion. I don't
really expect anyone to believe them. But I do
respect the integrity and the just-the-facts-maam
'tude you brought to Fairfield Life, and will 
miss it.

On reflection, chalk up one more "win" for Judy
Stein. Her "tarbaby" act -- trying ANYTHING she
can think of to lure the people she's threatened
by into head-to-head confrontations with her --
has claimed another victim. Who WOULDN'T get
tired of some bitch dogging their every step
and trying to provoke a fight? 

I commiserate. Judy Stein has been attempting to
lure me into arguments for over 15 years. She 
follows me from Internet forum to Internet forum
doing so. She has done the same with several folks
here, as they would be more than willing to tell
you. Most of us have found some way to deal with
the fact that what WE are dealing with is a form
of insanity, to not take it personally, and just
keep posting anyway, trying to ignore her attacks
and her provocations. But I completely understand 
the wisdom of the graceful retreat, and just 
leaving the barking bitch behind. 

Good luck to you, wherever you go...

 

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RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: I quit

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of R.G.
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 12:55 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I quit

 

>Besides, I have heard of someone who was actually levitating and was 
asked to leave the dome, because it was too disruptive to others.

I doubt that's a true story (that they were levitating). We would have heard
a lot more about it if it were.

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: I quit

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of lurkernomore20002000
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 12:33 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I quit

 

Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

--- On Mon, 7/14/08, nablusoss1008 wrote:

> This has already started happening and will soon be seen by
> > the general public.
> 
> Yeah, Mytria will demonstrate flying real soon. Nabs, you crack me 
up. You confuse your thoughts with reality. I'd love to see a TM-sidha 
fly, but it ain't happenin' unless you've been drinking the koolaid!

>Honestly, when I hear Nabby go on like this, it makes me feel 
fortunate that I chose the householder ashrama. (actually, the 
householder ashrama chose me)

I don't know that I'd pin it on non-householders. The average Purusha guy is
pretty sensible and would be embarrassed by much of what Nabby says.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I quit

[Peter]

Turq, I saw you pause, as it were, before you used the word "dogging." Pretty 
funny my friend!!!


--- On Tue, 7/15/08, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I quit
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 3:43 AM
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks to almost all of you for being here to teach me
> bunches!  
> > 
> > Anyone think that a 10 yard hop claim isn't a
> levitation claim? 
> > 
> > Oh well.  I can't seem to stay here on the terms I
> had set for 
> > myself, with no interaction with a certain poster, so
> I am 
> > outtahere.  
> 
> Ruth, you will be missed. As for that "certain
> poster," she is merely doing what she has done
> on this forum and other forums for years.
> 
> To put things in perspective for you -- and
> this is my OPINION -- Judy has this "territory"
> thang going on with the forums she participates
> in. She's like a dog going around peeing on trees
> to mark her territory. Her...uh...dogging of you
> and constant attempts to lure you into a head-
> to-head argument with her weren't necessarily
> personal, it's just what she DOES to mark her
> territory.
> 
> In your case she tried to lure you into head-to-
> head arguments more than she does some others
> because 1) you make more sense than she does, 2)
> people believe what you say, whereas they don't
> believe what she says, and most important 3)
> you're a woman. Judy has a history of attempting
> to drive any strong woman off of any forum she
> is part of. It started back on a.m.t., and 
> continues to this day. In this respect, she is
> in my opinion more of a guy than the guys are. 
> It must be her butch side coming out.
> 
> Anyway, I for one will be sorry to see you go.
> I understand that you don't believe that I 
> really experienced some of the things I've talked
> about, and that's just fine in my opinion. I don't
> really expect anyone to believe them. But I do
> respect the integrity and the just-the-facts-maam
> 'tude you brought to Fairfield Life, and will 
> miss it.
> 
> On reflection, chalk up one more "win" for Judy
> Stein. Her "tarbaby" act -- trying ANYTHING she
> can think of to lure the people she's threatened
> by into head-to-head confrontations with her --
> has claimed another victim. Who WOULDN'T get
> tired of some bitch dogging their every step
> and trying to provoke a fight?  
> 
> I commiserate. Judy Stein has been attempting to
> lure me into arguments for over 15 years. She 
> follows me from Internet forum to Internet forum
> doing so. She has done the same with several folks
> here, as they would be more than willing to tell
> you. Most of us have found some way to deal with
> the fact that what WE are dealing with is a form
> of insanity, to not take it personally, and just
> keep posting anyway, trying to ignore her attacks
> and her provocations. But I completely understand 
> the wisdom of the graceful retreat, and just 
> leaving the barking bitch behind. 
> 
> Good luck to you, wherever you go...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 

  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I quit

[Peter]

--- On Tue, 7/15/08, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I quit
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 6:47 AM
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- On Mon, 7/14/08, nablusoss1008
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > > This has already started happening and will soon
> be seen by
> > > the general 
> > > public.
> > 
> > Yeah, Mytria will demonstrate flying real soon. Nabs,
> you crack me 
> up. You confuse your thoughts with reality. I'd love to
> see a TM-sidha 
> fly, but it ain't happenin' unless you've been
> drinking the koolaid!
> 
> Fortunately you have no idea what is going on in certain
> flying-halls, 
> because if you did you'd be quick in presenting wild
> rumours to make it 
> fit into your petty, little reality.

No Nabs, my reality is not petty. I like the truth. If people were flying, that 
would be wonderful and great. And I hope they do fly someday. But after over 30 
years..30 FRIGGIN' YEARS...of people practicing the siddhis, NOT A SINGLE ONE 
IS FLYING. Do you actually think the TMO would keep a lid on this? This would 
be the story that would shake the world. Tell me, have you actually seen 
someone fly in a TMO flying hall? No you haven't. So, end of story. And as far 
as that poster claiming the TMO kicked a guy out of the Fairfield flying hall 
because he was flying. Not even worth a response 




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I quit

[Peter]

--- On Mon, 7/14/08, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I quit
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, July 14, 2008, 10:48 PM









--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Thanks to almost all of you for being here to teach me bunches!  
> 
> Anyone think that a 10 yard hop claim isn't a levitation claim? 
> 
> Oh well.  I can't seem to stay here on the terms I had set for myself,
> with no interaction with a certain poster, so I am outtahere.  
FFL is for losers.
OffWorld
Ah...Off..this means...never mind.








  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I quit

[Peter]

--- On Mon, 7/14/08, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> This has already started happening and will soon be seen by
> the general 
> public.

Yeah, Mytria will demonstrate flying real soon. Nabs, you crack me up. You 
confuse your thoughts with reality. I'd love to see a TM-sidha fly, but it 
ain't happenin' unless you've been drinking the koolaid!



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