Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Guru's mad delusional behavior revealed.

[ditzyklanmail]

Like this one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvUgSXwRg0A






From: TurquoiseB 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, 22 May, 2010 10:23:25 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Guru's mad delusional behavior revealed.

  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine  wrote:
>
> On May 22, 2010, at 10:04 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ditzyklanmail  wrote:
> > > 
> > > Au contraire! 
> > > 
> > > Blowing a bit of "Holy Smoke" at ya! 
> > > 
> > > With your uncanny gabfest ability...
> > > I still think you are also Ravi. 
> > 
> > Nonsense. I am Spartacus.
> 
> I am woman, hear me roar...

I thought that 'Spartacus' had a more UC feel to it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFbCS4a14J4

but hey!, roaring women are neat, too.  :-)


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Guru's mad delusional behavior revealed.

[ditzyklanmail]

Like this one?   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvUgSXwRg0A





From: TurquoiseB 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, 22 May, 2010 10:23:25 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Guru's mad delusional behavior revealed.

  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine  wrote:
>
> On May 22, 2010, at 10:04 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ditzyklanmail  wrote:
> > > 
> > > Au contraire! 
> > > 
> > > Blowing a bit of "Holy Smoke" at ya! 
> > > 
> > > With your uncanny gabfest ability...
> > > I still think you are also Ravi. 
> > 
> > Nonsense. I am Spartacus.
> 
> I am woman, hear me roar...

I thought that 'Spartacus' had a more UC feel to it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFbCS4a14J4

but hey!, roaring women are neat, too.  :-)


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Guru's mad delusional behavior revealed.

[Bhairitu]

I think Dr. Pete came back after he saw all the hands shoot up after I 
asked my question the other day.

TurquoiseB wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter  wrote:
>   
>> Yes, Turq.
>> 
>
> Dude, you just screwed up my perfect record...  :-)
>
>   
>> --- On Sat, 5/22/10, TurquoiseB  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> For the record, ... I don't
>>> need to surround myself with clones of myself to 
>>> serve as foils or "Yes men" to what I say. 
>>>   
>
>
>
>
>   

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Guru's mad delusional behavior revealed.

[Sal Sunshine]

On May 22, 2010, at 10:04 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ditzyklanmail  wrote:
>> 
>> Au contraire!  
>> 
>> Blowing a bit of "Holy Smoke" at ya!  
>> 
>> With your uncanny gabfest ability...
>> I still think you are also Ravi. 
> 
> Nonsense. I am Spartacus.

I am woman, hear me roar...

Sal

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Guru's mad delusional behavior revealed.

[ditzyklanmail]

Au contraire!  

Blowing a bit of "Holy Smoke" at ya!  

With your uncanny gabfest ability...
I still think you are also Ravi. When Ravi disappeared your posts went on 
reading about what type of cell phone is the better, etc. Pulled your hand 
from the cookie jar, but still got caught?






From: TurquoiseB 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, 22 May, 2010 2:10:33 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Guru's mad delusional behavior revealed.

  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ditzyklanmail  wrote:
>
> After reading quite a few posts here at Fairfield, I have 
> to admit, the Turquoise jewel does make some sense and even 
> with the sometimes rude awakening, he seems like a "nice 
> person."  Anyways, was the Ravi poster, actually Turquoise 
> in disguise? Just wondering as I whistle. 

Now you've done it...the TurquoiseB haters will be
on *your* ass now. :-)

For the record, Ravi wasn't me. Unlike, say, many 
of the participants in the BATGAP forum, I don't
need to surround myself with clones of myself to 
serve as foils or "Yes men" to what I say. Count 
yerself lucky...what would this forum be like if 
there were more than one of me here?  :-)

> 
> From: TurquoiseB 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, 21 May, 2010 1:09:54 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Guru's mad delusional behavior revealed.
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "yifuxero"  wrote:
> >
> > thx, excellent points!  I don't have time to go into this topic 
> > at length; but basically in answer to question posed in the Bible 
> > "Who is your Brother's Keeper";...if "Brother/Sister" ends only 
> > two doors down, I take issue with that.
> >  A certain Buddhist perspective (which I groked from various 
> > Teachers) is that I am responsible for everything and everybody 
> > in the universe.  Therefore I personally am responsible for Ravi.
> > otoh, if you prefer not to take such responsibility, that's ok 
> > with me.
> > ...
> > then the questions you posed:  first, praying (I usually pray/
> > chant in conjunction with various Deities/Yidams such as Kali, 
> > Kwan Yin, 
> > etc)...IS DOING something.  The enery circulates in the inner 
> > planes.  The energy of pujas, Yagyas, prayers, etc; eventually 
> > manifests physically.
> > By "doing" something I assume you mean on the physical plane of 
> > existence.
> > That's a very limited pov.
> 
> My point is that among many long-term spiritual 
> seekers, it's the POV they consider last, or never
> consider at all. They've been told for so many
> decades that their mere Woo Woo is *enough* to
> resolve situations they find unpleasant, so that
> is the only "solution" they think of, or try. 
> 
> In this particular case, *Ravi's* fantasies all
> revolve around how "powerful" he is, how much he
> is "affecting" those who interact with him, how
> just *by* interacting with them these people *who
> are criticizing him and/or laughing at him* have
> become his "disciples," his "students," and how
> he is "in charge," "controlling the situation,"
> "always winning." In other words, he is essentially
> the *end product* of this belief system. 
> 
> Have we not seen the *same* belief system around 
> here before? True, not expressed in such a socio-
> pathic manner, but I'm thinkin' Déja Mu.
> 
> I *understand* the points Bhairitu made about 
> Ravi just being Indian, and to some extent they
> are valid, and IMO have exacerbated the situation.
> Anyone who believes that having been born "Brahmin"
> makes him better or more evolved than anyone else
> is IMO already several miles down the road to 
> madness, even before you throw a little runaway 
> shakti into the mix. Someone with the kinds of 
> 'tudes about *women* that he has expressed here 
> *grew up with them*; they didn't happen overnight 
> as the result of an "awakening" of any kind.
> 
> But still, the overall *act* strikes me as familiar,
> and a little disturbingly so. Part of the TM dogma,
> ferchissakes, has always been the low-vibeness of
> having to act on the level of action to resolve a
> situation. We're talking about an organization that
> charges its followers *money* to pray for them to
> gods and goddesses so that they won't *have* to act
> themselves (TM Yagyas). And we're talking about an 
> organization in which this 'tude (reluctance to 
> "get involved" and act physically) has led to at 
> least one murder (Levi Butler). I don't think it's 
> out of line to point out stuff like this.
> 
> I was *not* trying to slam you personally for your
> suggestion. I was merely rapping about parallels 
> I see in the suggestion to points of dogma I see as 
> less than completely healthy. Relying on prayer or 
> meditation to invoke the good graces of the gods, or 
> to add a little more collective "energy" or Woo Woo 
> into the mix strikes me as something one does when 
> in a drought and hoping for rain or when hopin

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Guru's mad delusional behavior revealed.

[ditzyklanmail]

; )






From: authfriend 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 21 May, 2010 9:26:17 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Guru's mad delusional behavior revealed.

  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ditzyklanmail  wrote:
>
> After reading quite a few posts here at Fairfield, I have
> to admit, the Turquoise jewel does make some sense

ROTFL!

> and even with the sometimes rude awakening, he seems like
> a "nice person."

Well, you've just done a nice job inoculating yourself
against his viciousness. Smart move.


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Guru's mad delusional behavior revealed.

[Peter]

Yes, Turq.

--- On Sat, 5/22/10, TurquoiseB  wrote:

> From: TurquoiseB 
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Guru's mad delusional behavior revealed.
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, May 22, 2010, 3:10 AM
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
> ditzyklanmail  wrote:
> >
> > After reading quite a few posts here at Fairfield, I
> have 
> > to admit, the Turquoise jewel does make some sense and
> even 
> > with the sometimes rude awakening, he seems like a
> "nice 
> > person."  Anyways, was the Ravi poster, actually
> Turquoise 
> > in disguise? Just wondering as I whistle. 
> 
> Now you've done it...the TurquoiseB haters will be
> on *your* ass now. :-)
> 
> For the record, Ravi wasn't me. Unlike, say, many 
> of the participants in the BATGAP forum, I don't
> need to surround myself with clones of myself to 
> serve as foils or "Yes men" to what I say. Count 
> yerself lucky...what would this forum be like if 
> there were more than one of me here?  :-)
> 
> > 
> > From: TurquoiseB 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Fri, 21 May, 2010 1:09:54 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Guru's mad
> delusional behavior revealed.
> > 
> >   
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
> "yifuxero"  wrote:
> > >
> > > thx, excellent points!  I don't have time to
> go into this topic 
> > > at length; but basically in answer to question
> posed in the Bible 
> > > "Who is your Brother's Keeper";...if
> "Brother/Sister" ends only 
> > > two doors down, I take issue with that.
> > >  A certain Buddhist perspective (which I
> groked from various 
> > > Teachers) is that I am responsible for everything
> and everybody 
> > > in the universe.  Therefore I personally am
> responsible for Ravi.
> > > otoh, if you prefer not to take such
> responsibility, that's ok 
> > > with me.
> > > ...
> > > then the questions you posed:  first,
> praying (I usually pray/
> > > chant in conjunction with various Deities/Yidams
> such as Kali, 
> > > Kwan Yin, 
> > > etc)...IS DOING something.  The enery
> circulates in the inner 
> > > planes.  The energy of pujas, Yagyas,
> prayers, etc; eventually 
> > > manifests physically.
> > > By "doing" something I assume you mean on the
> physical plane of 
> > > existence.
> > > That's a very limited pov.
> > 
> > My point is that among many long-term spiritual 
> > seekers, it's the POV they consider last, or never
> > consider at all. They've been told for so many
> > decades that their mere Woo Woo is *enough* to
> > resolve situations they find unpleasant, so that
> > is the only "solution" they think of, or try. 
> > 
> > In this particular case, *Ravi's* fantasies all
> > revolve around how "powerful" he is, how much he
> > is "affecting" those who interact with him, how
> > just *by* interacting with them these people *who
> > are criticizing him and/or laughing at him* have
> > become his "disciples," his "students," and how
> > he is "in charge," "controlling the situation,"
> > "always winning." In other words, he is essentially
> > the *end product* of this belief system. 
> > 
> > Have we not seen the *same* belief system around 
> > here before? True, not expressed in such a socio-
> > pathic manner, but I'm thinkin' Déja Mu.
> > 
> > I *understand* the points Bhairitu made about 
> > Ravi just being Indian, and to some extent they
> > are valid, and IMO have exacerbated the situation.
> > Anyone who believes that having been born "Brahmin"
> > makes him better or more evolved than anyone else
> > is IMO already several miles down the road to 
> > madness, even before you throw a little runaway 
> > shakti into the mix. Someone with the kinds of 
> > 'tudes about *women* that he has expressed here 
> > *grew up with them*; they didn't happen overnight 
> > as the result of an "awakening" of any kind.
> > 
> > But still, the overall *act* strikes me as familiar,
> > and a little disturbingly so. Part of the TM dogma,
> > ferchissakes, has always been the low-vibeness of
> > having to act on the level of action to resolve a
> > situation. We're talking about an organization that
> > charges its followers *money* to pray for them to
> > gods and goddesses so that they won't *have* to act
> > themselves (TM Yagyas). And we're talking about an 
> > organization in which this 'tude (reluctance to 
> > "get involved" and act physically) has led to at 
> > least one murder (Levi Butler). I don't think it's 
> > out of line to point out stuff like this.
> > 
> > I was *not* trying to slam you personally for your
> > suggestion. I was merely rapping about parallels 
> > I see in the suggestion to points of dogma I see as 
> > less than completely healthy. Relying on prayer or 
> > meditation to invoke the good graces of the gods, or 
> > to add a little more collective "energy" or Woo Woo 
> > into the mix strikes me as something one does when 
> > in a drought and hoping for rain or when hoping for
> > something tenu

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Guru's mad delusional behavior revealed.

[ditzyklanmail]

After reading quite a few posts here at Fairfield, I have to admit, the 
Turquoise jewel does make some sense and even with the sometimes rude 
awakening, he seems like a "nice person."  Anyways, was the Ravi poster, 
actually Turquoise in disguise? Just wondering as I whistle. 






From: TurquoiseB 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 21 May, 2010 1:09:54 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Guru's mad delusional behavior revealed.

  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "yifuxero"  wrote:
>
> thx, excellent points!  I don't have time to go into this topic 
> at length; but basically in answer to question posed in the Bible 
> "Who is your Brother's Keeper";...if "Brother/Sister" ends only 
> two doors down, I take issue with that.
>  A certain Buddhist perspective (which I groked from various 
> Teachers) is that I am responsible for everything and everybody 
> in the universe.  Therefore I personally am responsible for Ravi.
> otoh, if you prefer not to take such responsibility, that's ok 
> with me.
> ...
> then the questions you posed:  first, praying (I usually pray/chant 
> in conjunction with various Deities/Yidams such as Kali, Kwan Yin, 
> etc)...IS DOING something.  The enery circulates in the inner 
> planes.  The energy of pujas, Yagyas, prayers, etc; eventually 
> manifests physically.
> By "doing" something I assume you mean on the physical plane of 
> existence.
> That's a very limited pov.

My point is that among many long-term spiritual 
seekers, it's the POV they consider last, or never
consider at all. They've been told for so many
decades that their mere Woo Woo is *enough* to
resolve situations they find unpleasant, so that
is the only "solution" they think of, or try. 

In this particular case, *Ravi's* fantasies all
revolve around how "powerful" he is, how much he
is "affecting" those who interact with him, how
just *by* interacting with them these people *who
are criticizing him and/or laughing at him* have
become his "disciples," his "students," and how
he is "in charge," "controlling the situation,"
"always winning." In other words, he is essentially
the *end product* of this belief system. 

Have we not seen the *same* belief system around 
here before? True, not expressed in such a socio-
pathic manner, but I'm thinkin' Déja Mu.

I *understand* the points Bhairitu made about 
Ravi just being Indian, and to some extent they
are valid, and IMO have exacerbated the situation.
Anyone who believes that having been born "Brahmin"
makes him better or more evolved than anyone else
is IMO already several miles down the road to 
madness, even before you throw a little runaway 
shakti into the mix. Someone with the kinds of 
'tudes about *women* that he has expressed here 
*grew up with them*; they didn't happen overnight 
as the result of an "awakening" of any kind.

But still, the overall *act* strikes me as familiar,
and a little disturbingly so. Part of the TM dogma,
ferchissakes, has always been the low-vibeness of
having to act on the level of action to resolve a
situation. We're talking about an organization that
charges its followers *money* to pray for them to
gods and goddesses so that they won't *have* to act
themselves (TM Yagyas). And we're talking about an 
organization in which this 'tude (reluctance to 
"get involved" and act physically) has led to at 
least one murder (Levi Butler). I don't think it's 
out of line to point out stuff like this.

I was *not* trying to slam you personally for your
suggestion. I was merely rapping about parallels 
I see in the suggestion to points of dogma I see as 
less than completely healthy. Relying on prayer or 
meditation to invoke the good graces of the gods, or 
to add a little more collective "energy" or Woo Woo 
into the mix strikes me as something one does when 
in a drought and hoping for rain or when hoping for
something tenuous and theoretical like "world peace."
I find it less impressive and practical when the wolf 
is at the door, or when someone's family might really 
need protecting. That's all.

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "yifuxero"  wrote:
> > >
> > > pray for him in the traditional sense. The combined Shakti 
> > > and good-will may steer him in the right direction, whatever 
> > > that may be.
> > 
> > Why does this strike me as exactly the same kind of 
> > advice that got Ravi *into* this situation?
> > 
> > Why does it strike me as the kind of belief that got
> > Levi Butler killed? "I know I'm supposed to be watch-
> > ing this guy, but I've got to go meditate right now.
> > Nothing bad can possibly happen if I do that."
> > 
> > Where's the point at which people stop praying and 
> > DO SOMETHING?
> > 
> > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > RICK, she's right. This is potent

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Guru's mad delusional behavior revealed.

[Bhairitu]

TurquoiseB wrote:
> I *understand* the points Bhairitu made about 
> Ravi just being Indian, and to some extent they
> are valid, and IMO have exacerbated the situation.
> Anyone who believes that having been born "Brahmin"
> makes him better or more evolved than anyone else
> is IMO already several miles down the road to 
> madness, even before you throw a little runaway 
> shakti into the mix. Someone with the kinds of 
> 'tudes about *women* that he has expressed here 
> *grew up with them*; they didn't happen overnight 
> as the result of an "awakening" of any kind.

Not only having been to India and also knowing a number of Indian folks 
locally I also had a couple of Indian engineers work for in the 1990s.  
One was very much like Ravi and a wild wacky guy.  But we all had fun 
with him as that wackiness is much more tolerable and taken as kidding 
when you are with someone like that face to face (where you can see the 
tongue in cheek).  The other engineer was quite and serious but a 
helluva nice guy too.

Chatting a local ayurveda practitioner who though looked like a typical 
American (or "white guy") turned out to be the son of the Indian woman 
running the grocery (dad must have been a "white guy.").   He told me 
that his ayurvedic teacher in India told him that most Indians are vata 
in vakriti and with a grin on his face pointed out that if you think 
about it a bit you can see why.   Ravi may well be flying high in the 
stratosphere with a vata imbalance (somewhat useful if your job is to 
find creative solutions to software problems).  And as such might not 
give a damn about what impression he leaves.  Line on air?

And Ravi, if you're reading which you say you are I may give you a call 
sometime and we can get together over espresso or chai maybe over your 
way.  And I may bring along Swami Abhayanand too.  Of course then I'll 
probably be blessed with a two way Hindi conversation though Swami when 
that happens often asks the other party to speak English so I'm not left 
out.  My Hindi is a little rusty these days. ;-)

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Guru's mad delusional behavior revealed.

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of lurkernomore20002000
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 8:05 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Guru's mad delusional behavior revealed.
 
  
I can hear it now. 

"Okay Ravi it is a seven day time limit. You are allowed 50 posts. You may
engage the participants in any verbal manuveaurs you see fit. And They can
respond with their own verbal manuveaurs. You will be called on any below
the belt attacks, but they are not illegal. Okay, now I want to come out
posting"

And the rest, as they say is FFL history. 
All I told him was that folks on FFL were talking about him, due to his
participation in BatGap, and that he might want to respond to their
comments.

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Guru's mad delusional behavior revealed.

[Rick Archer]

I just had the one I found through Google, which was (510) 438-8956  
 
I'll try to call him this evening.
 
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of authfriend
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 3:15 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Guru's mad delusional behavior revealed.
 
  
Rick, this was the number he gave in a post last night:

408-505-9815 

Is this the one you have for him?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> Another FFL reader/Amma devotee contacted the head of Amma's organization
in
> the US. He said he'd bring it to Amma's attention. I sent him Ravi's phone
> number and suggested that he may have some Bay area friends who could
> intervene. Of course, neither of these may be sufficient. He may need some
> mandatory professional help.
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Guru's mad delusional behavior revealed.

[Bhairitu]

Rick Archer wrote:
> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of do.rflex
> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 1:02 PM
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Guru's mad delusional behavior revealed.
>  
> Why is this all being made into being Rick's responsibility? What really can
> Rick do that anyone else here can't do? 
> Here's what I said to him:
> Ravi, what's up with you? I'm getting emails all day long from people
> concerned about your well-being and that of the people around you. I don't
> have time to read all these things you're writing, but they seem pretty
> nutty to me. If you are sane, and genuinely awakened, don't you feel some
> obligation to do good in the world? Do you think you're helping people with
> all this stuff. Are you just entertaining yourself by acting crazy and
> seeing how others react? If you are as disturbed as these posts make you
> sound, then you need help, and I hope you seek it. Amma is coming soon, but
> you may need help sooner than that. 
>  
> Please give me a straight answer. I'm concerned too.
> --
> I don't have any way to contact him other than email and Skype, and his
> Skype account is inactive at the moment. If you do a Google search, you get
> this:
> Ravi Chivukula  (510) 438-8956  Fremont, CA 94536-
> Maybe I'll try calling him tonight, but someone said he had gone to Phoenix.
>
>   

He left a different number here yesterday.  I swear most people here 
don't seem to have known many other Indians other than MMY.  Indians are 
a wacky bunch and he's probably just having fun posting here and really 
didn't care if he got bumped off the group for over posting.  To him it 
is fun pushing a bunch of gullible American's buttons.

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Guru's mad delusional behavior revealed.

[Rick Archer]

Another FFL reader/Amma devotee contacted the head of Amma's organization in
the US. He said he'd bring it to Amma's attention. I sent him Ravi's phone
number and suggested that he may have some Bay area friends who could
intervene. Of course, neither of these may be sufficient. He may need some
mandatory professional help.

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Guru's mad delusional behavior revealed.

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of do.rflex
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 1:02 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Guru's mad delusional behavior revealed.
 
Why is this all being made into being Rick's responsibility? What really can
Rick do that anyone else here can't do? 
Here's what I said to him:
Ravi, what's up with you? I'm getting emails all day long from people
concerned about your well-being and that of the people around you. I don't
have time to read all these things you're writing, but they seem pretty
nutty to me. If you are sane, and genuinely awakened, don't you feel some
obligation to do good in the world? Do you think you're helping people with
all this stuff. Are you just entertaining yourself by acting crazy and
seeing how others react? If you are as disturbed as these posts make you
sound, then you need help, and I hope you seek it. Amma is coming soon, but
you may need help sooner than that. 
 
Please give me a straight answer. I'm concerned too.
--
I don't have any way to contact him other than email and Skype, and his
Skype account is inactive at the moment. If you do a Google search, you get
this:
Ravi Chivukula  (510) 438-8956  Fremont, CA 94536-
Maybe I'll try calling him tonight, but someone said he had gone to Phoenix.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Guru's mad delusional behavior revealed.

[Vaj]

On May 20, 2010, at 2:27 PM, yifuxero wrote:

pray for him in the traditional sense. The combined Shakti and good- 
will may steer him in the right direction, whatever that may be.



Some "Vitamin H" might be a better suggestion. Maybe they could get a  
volume discount for the BATGAP list? Too bad MAPI doesn't sell it...

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Guru's mad delusional behavior revealed.

[Sal Sunshine]

On May 20, 2010, at 11:31 AM, Rick Archer wrote:

> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of tartbrain
> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 11:14 AM
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Guru's mad delusional behavior revealed.
>  
> IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF RICK CAN RESPOND AS TO WHAT HE IS DOING, IF ANYTHING, 
> SO EFFORTS ARE NOT OVERLAPPING OR COUNTER PRODUCTIVE TO EACH OTHER.
> 
> I emailed him privately. I'll keep you posted.

Let me get this straight, Rick.  A guy makes 
numerous posts that could be interpreted 
as violently threatening and indicating that
he could very possibly be in the throes of a 
psychotic breakdown--and you email that same
person to ask...what?  If he's "OK"?

I'm no psychologist, but one could draw from
this the fact that you are trying to avoid dealing
with any form of unpleasantness from a person
you previously touted as "awakened."

By all means don't do anything if you don't
feel like it---it's not like you're responsible for
him.  I just hope what you did do isn't used
by him as evidence that he really is OK. Because by
all appearances, he's on the verge of some
serious doo-doo here.

Sal

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Guru's mad delusional behavior revealed.

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of TurquoiseB
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 11:56 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Guru's mad delusional behavior revealed.
 
  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> > On Behalf Of TurquoiseB
> >
> > You sure do know how to pick 'em, Rick.
> > 
> > Any other "ordinary enlightened folks" you want to share with us?
> 
> How 'bout you?

LOL. Not likely. The flashes of realization I've had in 
the past were fun, but fleeting. I neither seek nor 
particularly revere them these days.

In retrospect, the best experiences of higher states of
consciousness I have had in the past are no "better" to
me in any way than the everyday experience of eating a 
taco. Really. Thus I don't think I'm a likely candidate 
for filling 90 minutes talking about them.

If you'd like to interview me about tacos, I'm your man. :-)
Might take me up on that, but first you'll have to take me out for tacos.

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Guru's mad delusional behavior revealed.

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of TurquoiseB
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 4:10 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Guru's mad delusional behavior revealed.
 
  
You sure do know how to pick 'em, Rick.

Any other "ordinary enlightened folks" you want to share with us?
How 'bout you?

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Guru's mad delusional behavior revealed.

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of tartbrain
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 11:14 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Guru's mad delusional behavior revealed.
 
IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF RICK CAN RESPOND AS TO WHAT HE IS DOING, IF ANYTHING,
SO EFFORTS ARE NOT OVERLAPPING OR COUNTER PRODUCTIVE TO EACH OTHER.
I emailed him privately. I'll keep you posted.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Guru's mad delusional behavior revealed.

[Bhairitu]

Maybe Rick ought to try a show where he interviews ordinary people but 
with the same questions he asked "the awakened."  And these should not 
be folks from Fairfield but off the streets of Chicago or New York.  
Might be hilarious.  Might be picked up by HBO.   ;-)

TurquoiseB wrote:
> You sure do know how to pick 'em, Rick.
>
> Any other "ordinary enlightened folks" you want to share with us?
> I'm thinkin' that this one spent too much time around the gas
> pumps, and the fumes have gotten to him.  :-)
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula
>  wrote:
>   
>> Ravi guru is going to explain his mad delusional behavior, he is right
>> now in Kaali Bhava.Please read carefully.
>>
>> Bitches that don't have any experiences - positive or negative, please
>> do comment negatively, I want to feed on you..:-)
>> 
>
>
>
>
>   

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Guru's mad delusional behavior revealed.

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Bhairitu
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 11:13 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Guru's mad delusional behavior
revealed.
 
  
Alex Stanley wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com> , Ravi Chivukula
 wrote:
> 
>> Ravi guru is going to explain his mad delusional behavior
>> 
>
> Alex is going to explain his behavior, in his role as a FairfieldLife
moderator, when someone makes more than 50 posts in a single week. This
morning, Alex counted 8 more posts by Ravi since last night's Post Count,
which had Ravi at 44 posts. Unless Rick decrees that Ravi should be allowed
to post due to extenuating circumstances, Ravi's posting privileges are
suspended until the evening of Friday, May 28.
I told Ravi about the 50-post limit on his first day. If he has exceeded it,
he should take a breather for a week like anyone else.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Guru's mad delusional behavior revealed.

[Bhairitu]

Alex Stanley wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  
> wrote:
>   
>> Ravi guru is going to explain his mad delusional behavior
>> 
>
> Alex is going to explain his behavior, in his role as a FairfieldLife 
> moderator, when someone makes more than 50 posts in a single week. This 
> morning, Alex counted 8 more posts by Ravi since last night's Post Count, 
> which had Ravi at 44 posts. Unless Rick decrees that Ravi should be allowed 
> to post due to extenuating circumstances, Ravi's posting privileges are 
> suspended until the evening of Friday, May 28.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled badminton games.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Guru's mad delusional behavior revealed.

[Bhairitu]

authfriend wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" 
>  wrote:
>   
>> What is it called?  Making an exception on "humanitarian
>> grounds".  That's what I would say.  I think he needs us.  
>> 
>
> He doesn't need *us*. He needs professional help, and
> *fast*.
>
>   

He sounds like a typical DESI to me. :-D