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I am curious as to the TMO's position on gays - inthe 1980's at MIU I knew a guy from Canada who was gay and he claimed that there was a great deal of prejudice from the TMO toward gays as in if it were known someone were gay they would be asked to leave the university as apparently the TMO thought being gay reflected badly on the TMO - I had never heard this at the time and asked around and several people said it was true pretty much throughout the entire official Movement. At the time I was still a TM junkie, so didn't know what to think except that it was a pretty screwed up attitude for the Movement to take. Anyone know anything about the TMO's stance on gays and lesbians? From: seekliberation seekliberat...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 7:19 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity I often wonder if these people who claim homosexuality is going to destroy humanity ever did any research on the statistics of homosexuals. Statistics like this: 1. Percentage of murders committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 2. Percentage of rapes committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 3. Percentage of members of congress responsible for the housing market bubble crisis that were homosexual vs. heterosexual 4. Percentage of congress, DOD, and Dept of State members who justified unnecessary wars who were homosexual vs. heterosexual 5. Percentage of theft and fraud committed by homo vs. hetero I don't know if there's a way to research these stats because some people hide the fact that they're homosexual. But I can say this from experience: I've been lied to, assaulted, cheated, had personal belongings stolen, verbally insulted, and none of the people who did these things were gay/lesbian (at least not openly). This is very typical hypocrisy, to create severe problems in society then demonize some other social group who doesn't contribute even a fraction to the really serious problems that you do. I'm open to the idea that homosexuality is a perversion and unnatural, but i'm also not stupid enough to think that homosexuals are destroying humanity at any faster of a rate than heterosexuals. Heterosexuals are more than capable of destroying humanity without any help from the homosexuals. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: A Cameroon archbishop stated so. http://news.yahoo.com/cameroon-archbishop-calls-same-sex-marriage-crime-against-164343932.html
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Buck I was simply curious as to what the unofficial official position of the TMO was/is about gays - the few I knew at MIU were really afraid of being outed and dismissed from MIU based apparently on treatment and events that had taken place among the TMO in Canada. The people I talked to at the time all said the Movement frowned on gays, thought it made the TMO look bad and that unofficially the Big M was down on homosexuality, so being that there are a lot of old timers here on FFL, I wondered if they knew anything about it. You seem to be afraid that yet another aspect of the seamy underbelly of the movement will come out, you know like the Movement keeping files on meditators in the Fairfield community, eveybody s'posed to be celibate or they won't get enlightened and all the other unofficial official stuff the TMO has always lived by? So I am curious if the TMO has had an unofficial policy of meditation for everyone (but no gays in our Global Country of World Peace, please) or were the gays at MIU just being paranoid? By the way what in the world do you think is revolutionary about Maha saying everyone should meditate? I haven't seen any other meditation teachers saying No, just a few folks should do our meditation. All meditation teachers of all kinds think everyone should meditate. There is not one thing revolutionary about that - besides everyone doing TM would have been good for Maha's bank account. No surprise there. From: Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 9:00 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity You know, the extraordinarily revolutionary thing about Maharishi's teaching is that it says that everyone should meditate. Not just should but must for very sound scientific reasons. Meditation for all Regardless of politics, gender roles, even sexual orientation that this meditation and the science of meditation is the essential ingredient for all humanity moving progressively forward in their birthright. Even tea-party nuts, vegans, omnivores, atheists, Republicans and Islamicists. It is important that we not let little things get in the way of people coming together in meditation and enlightenment. -Buck in the Dome --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@... wrote: During my time at MIU/MUM, the question came up in private conversations. Open discussion about homosexuality never came up in class; anything controversial was never to be talked about in class. But in private conversation, it was agreed upon by most that homsexuality was bad for evolution, according to Vedic Science. Personally, I don't know of any of the 5 major world religions that don't have a derogatory attitude towards gays/lesbians. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: I am curious as to the TMO's position on gays - inthe 1980's at MIU I knew a guy from Canada who was gay and he claimed that there was a great deal of prejudice from the TMO toward gays as in if it were known someone were gay they would be asked to leave the university as apparently the TMO thought being gay reflected badly on the TMO - I had never heard this at the time and asked around and several people said it was true pretty much throughout the entire official Movement. At the time I was still a TM junkie, so didn't know what to think except that it was a pretty screwed up attitude for the Movement to take. Anyone know anything about the TMO's stance on gays and lesbians? From: seekliberation seekliberation@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 7:19 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity  I often wonder if these people who claim homosexuality is going to destroy humanity ever did any research on the statistics of homosexuals. Statistics like this: 1. Percentage of murders committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 2. Percentage of rapes committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 3. Percentage of members of congress responsible for the housing market bubble crisis that were homosexual vs. heterosexual 4. Percentage of congress, DOD, and Dept of State members who justified unnecessary wars who were homosexual vs. heterosexual 5. Percentage of theft and fraud committed by homo vs. hetero I don't know if there's a way to research these stats because some people hide the fact that they're homosexual. But I can say this from experience: I've been lied to, assaulted, cheated, had personal belongings stolen, verbally insulted, and none of the people who did these things were gay/lesbian (at least not openly). This is very typical hypocrisy, to create severe
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity
Even tho I am not a fan of the TMO I think this is pretty cool - I saw the earlier posts about gays and it brought that episode at MIU back to my mind so I was just asking if any old timers remembered anything about it. The reason I even head about any TM gay prejudice at the time was I had the hots for a raven haired French Canadian gal who didn't give a crap about me except to cry on my shoulder when her life wasn't going well. She was in love with this English Canadian who didn't seem interested in her but she goddamn well set her cap for him and pursued him and pursued him and pursued him relentlessly until finally told her he couldn't go out with her cause he was gay. She came to my pod room one night in tears right after he told her and she didn't know WHAT she was gonna do since she was convinced they were soul mates (based on the fact that he had nearly all the qualities on the list she had made of her ideal man - I kid you not.) So then she told him she had told me that he was gay and he got upset so I talked to him and said Look man I'm not gonna tell anyone, its your private business. But what's the big deal anyway? This is MIU we all just meditate. We are all equal here. So he proceeded to tell me stories of prejudice against gays in the Canadian TMO. From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 9:08 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity welcome to gaYogi.org --Namaste, and welcome! ThisgaYogi site is dedicated to gay men [and our friends] exploring and unfolding what almost everyone feels deep inside… There must be more to life, I'm sure of that. I just don't know how to get there. Photo: Celebrating a birthday with Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. Switzerland, 1979 and further in text: My partner Scott and I are long-time practitioners of the Transcendental Meditation (TM) Program. I studied with Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, the founder of Transcendental Meditation, starting in 1973 up until 2008 when he passed on. I became a Certified Instructor of TM in 1974 after extensive training, and continued my education with advanced courses in India and Europe over the past few decades. I've taught over 1,000 people to successfully meditate, including volunteer programs across the USA as well as in Sierra Leone and Liberia (West Africa), Iran, India, Thailand and the Philippines. .. Seems to be endorsed or at least accepted by Thomas E. Roth because it says: Please contact me to arrange a free orientation meeting, or for further information. Thomas E. Roth, Director The Transcendental Meditation® Program of San Francisco Maharishi Foundation USA / 501(c)3 Email tr...@tm.org Visit http://www.tm.org/sf http://gayogi.wordpress.com/2012/01/ --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation wrote: During my time at MIU/MUM, the question came up in private conversations. Open discussion about homosexuality never came up in class; anything controversial was never to be talked about in class. But in private conversation, it was agreed upon by most that homsexuality was bad for evolution, according to Vedic Science. Personally, I don't know of any of the 5 major world religions that don't have a derogatory attitude towards gays/lesbians. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: I am curious as to the TMO's position on gays - inthe 1980's at MIU I knew a guy from Canada who was gay and he claimed that there was a great deal of prejudice from the TMO toward gays as in if it were known someone were gay they would be asked to leave the university as apparently the TMO thought being gay reflected badly on the TMO - I had never heard this at the time and asked around and several people said it was true pretty much throughout the entire official Movement. At the time I was still a TM junkie, so didn't know what to think except that it was a pretty screwed up attitude for the Movement to take. Anyone know anything about the TMO's stance on gays and lesbians? From: seekliberation seekliberation@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 7:19 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity  I often wonder if these people who claim homosexuality is going to destroy humanity ever did any research on the statistics of homosexuals. Statistics like this: 1. Percentage of murders committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 2. Percentage of rapes committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 3. Percentage of members of congress responsible for the housing market bubble crisis that were homosexual vs. heterosexual 4. Percentage of congress, DOD, and Dept of State members who justified unnecessary
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Cool - I am glad to know it - I guess the fellow and his friends from Canada were just paranoid or maybe the Canadian TMO had some homophobes running things for a while - dunno From: Ann awoelfleba...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 9:53 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: I am curious as to the TMO's position on gays - inthe 1980's at MIU I knew a guy from Canada who was gay and he claimed that there was a great deal of prejudice from the TMO toward gays as in if it were known someone were gay they would be asked to leave the university as apparently the TMO thought being gay reflected badly on the TMO - I had never heard this at the time and asked around and several people said it was true pretty much throughout the entire official Movement. At the time I was still a TM junkie, so didn't know what to think except that it was a pretty screwed up attitude for the Movement to take. Anyone know anything about the TMO's stance on gays and lesbians? Funny, half my friends at MIU in the 1980's were gay, more men than women, and no one ever seemed that interested in hiding that fact nor was I ever under the impression that it would have ever been an issue at the school. If it had, our class would have been severely decimated after the expulsions! From: seekliberation seekliberation@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 7:19 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity  I often wonder if these people who claim homosexuality is going to destroy humanity ever did any research on the statistics of homosexuals. Statistics like this: 1. Percentage of murders committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 2. Percentage of rapes committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 3. Percentage of members of congress responsible for the housing market bubble crisis that were homosexual vs. heterosexual 4. Percentage of congress, DOD, and Dept of State members who justified unnecessary wars who were homosexual vs. heterosexual 5. Percentage of theft and fraud committed by homo vs. hetero I don't know if there's a way to research these stats because some people hide the fact that they're homosexual. But I can say this from experience: I've been lied to, assaulted, cheated, had personal belongings stolen, verbally insulted, and none of the people who did these things were gay/lesbian (at least not openly). This is very typical hypocrisy, to create severe problems in society then demonize some other social group who doesn't contribute even a fraction to the really serious problems that you do. I'm open to the idea that homosexuality is a perversion and unnatural, but i'm also not stupid enough to think that homosexuals are destroying humanity at any faster of a rate than heterosexuals. Heterosexuals are more than capable of destroying humanity without any help from the homosexuals. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: A Cameroon archbishop stated so. http://news.yahoo.com/cameroon-archbishop-calls-same-sex-marriage-crime-against-164343932.html
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I was there 85 - 87 - both the people I referred to came at about the same time - I don't think they had been there prior to 1985 From: Ann awoelfleba...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 10:05 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: Even tho I am not a fan of the TMO I think this is pretty cool - I saw the earlier posts about gays and it brought that episode at MIU back to my mind so I was just asking if any old timers remembered anything about it. The reason I even head about any TM gay prejudice at the time was I had the hots for a raven haired French Canadian gal who didn't give a crap about me except to cry on my shoulder when her life wasn't going well. She was in love with this English Canadian who didn't seem interested in her but she goddamn well set her cap for him and pursued him and pursued him and pursued him relentlessly until finally told her he couldn't go out with her cause he was gay. She came to my pod room one night in tears right after he told her and she didn't know WHAT she was gonna do since she was convinced they were soul mates (based on the fact that he had nearly all the qualities on the list she had made of her ideal man - I kid you not.) I was at MIU from 1975-1980 and then in FF again in 1982. When exactly were you there? I think I know both of the people you are talking about. Was that Canadian girl's name Rhona? (I think it was or maybe my memory is hooped on that one, she was very attractive and lived in my pod.) So then she told him she had told me that he was gay and he got upset so I talked to him and said Look man I'm not gonna tell anyone, its your private business. But what's the big deal anyway? This is MIU we all just meditate. We are all equal here. So he proceeded to tell me stories of prejudice against gays in the Canadian TMO. From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 9:08 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity  welcome to gaYogi.org --Namaste, and welcome! ThisgaYogi site is dedicated to gay men [and our friends] exploring and unfolding what almost everyone feels deep inside… There must be more to life, I'm sure of that. I just don't know how to get there. Photo: Celebrating a birthday with Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. Switzerland, 1979 and further in text: My partner Scott and I are long-time practitioners of the Transcendental Meditation (TM) Program. I studied with Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, the founder of Transcendental Meditation, starting in 1973 up until 2008 when he passed on. I became a Certified Instructor of TM in 1974 after extensive training, and continued my education with advanced courses in India and Europe over the past few decades. I've taught over 1,000 people to successfully meditate, including volunteer programs across the USA as well as in Sierra Leone and Liberia (West Africa), Iran, India, Thailand and the Philippines. .. Seems to be endorsed or at least accepted by Thomas E. Roth because it says: Please contact me to arrange a free orientation meeting, or for further information. Thomas E. Roth, Director The Transcendental Meditation® Program of San Francisco Maharishi Foundation USA / 501(c)3 Email TRoth@... Visit http://www.tm.org/sf http://gayogi.wordpress.com/2012/01/ --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation wrote: During my time at MIU/MUM, the question came up in private conversations. Open discussion about homosexuality never came up in class; anything controversial was never to be talked about in class. But in private conversation, it was agreed upon by most that homsexuality was bad for evolution, according to Vedic Science. Personally, I don't know of any of the 5 major world religions that don't have a derogatory attitude towards gays/lesbians. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: I am curious as to the TMO's position on gays - inthe 1980's at MIU I knew a guy from Canada who was gay and he claimed that there was a great deal of prejudice from the TMO toward gays as in if it were known someone were gay they would be asked to leave the university as apparently the TMO thought being gay reflected badly on the TMO - I had never heard this at the time and asked around and several people said it was true pretty much throughout the entire official Movement. At the time I was still a TM junkie, so didn't know what to think except that it was a pretty screwed up attitude for the Movement to take. Anyone know anything about
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A friend of mine got kicked off campus in the 80’s (expelled – he was a student) because he was openly, somewhat flagrantly gay. These days he’s in the good graces of the movement and doing a lot to help in various ways. Charlie Lutes used to claim that Maharishi had made dire predictions about the fate of gay people, such as “it would be better had they never been born”. I don’t know much more than that. From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Jackson Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 6:40 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity I am curious as to the TMO's position on gays - inthe 1980's at MIU I knew a guy from Canada who was gay and he claimed that there was a great deal of prejudice from the TMO toward gays as in if it were known someone were gay they would be asked to leave the university as apparently the TMO thought being gay reflected badly on the TMO - I had never heard this at the time and asked around and several people said it was true pretty much throughout the entire official Movement. At the time I was still a TM junkie, so didn't know what to think except that it was a pretty screwed up attitude for the Movement to take. Anyone know anything about the TMO's stance on gays and lesbians? _ From: seekliberation seekliberat...@yahoo.com mailto:seekliberat...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 7:19 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity I often wonder if these people who claim homosexuality is going to destroy humanity ever did any research on the statistics of homosexuals. Statistics like this: 1. Percentage of murders committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 2. Percentage of rapes committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 3. Percentage of members of congress responsible for the housing market bubble crisis that were homosexual vs. heterosexual 4. Percentage of congress, DOD, and Dept of State members who justified unnecessary wars who were homosexual vs. heterosexual 5. Percentage of theft and fraud committed by homo vs. hetero I don't know if there's a way to research these stats because some people hide the fact that they're homosexual. But I can say this from experience: I've been lied to, assaulted, cheated, had personal belongings stolen, verbally insulted, and none of the people who did these things were gay/lesbian (at least not openly). This is very typical hypocrisy, to create severe problems in society then demonize some other social group who doesn't contribute even a fraction to the really serious problems that you do. I'm open to the idea that homosexuality is a perversion and unnatural, but i'm also not stupid enough to think that homosexuals are destroying humanity at any faster of a rate than heterosexuals. Heterosexuals are more than capable of destroying humanity without any help from the homosexuals. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , John jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: A Cameroon archbishop stated so. http://news.yahoo.com/cameroon-archbishop-calls-same-sex-marriage-crime-against-164343932.html
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You mean there are so many gay people in Europe that they're birth rates are dropping? From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 11:28 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity Seekliberation, It can be argued that homosexuality inhibits the growth of Creative Intelligence. The gross effect if not checked is the collapse of society. For example, many of the countries in Europe are losing population and are not replacing those who have died. As such, there will be no young people who could take over the jobs of the country which would contribute to the loss of productivity, or at worst the collapse of society. This trend has not yet reached this level of concern in the USA. But it is worth watching what would happen in Europe. JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , seekliberation seekliberation@... mailto:seekliberation@... wrote: I often wonder if these people who claim homosexuality is going to destroy humanity ever did any research on the statistics of homosexuals. Statistics like this: 1. Percentage of murders committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 2. Percentage of rapes committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 3. Percentage of members of congress responsible for the housing market bubble crisis that were homosexual vs. heterosexual 4. Percentage of congress, DOD, and Dept of State members who justified unnecessary wars who were homosexual vs. heterosexual 5. Percentage of theft and fraud committed by homo vs. hetero I don't know if there's a way to research these stats because some people hide the fact that they're homosexual. But I can say this from experience: I've been lied to, assaulted, cheated, had personal belongings stolen, verbally insulted, and none of the people who did these things were gay/lesbian (at least not openly). This is very typical hypocrisy, to create severe problems in society then demonize some other social group who doesn't contribute even a fraction to the really serious problems that you do. I'm open to the idea that homosexuality is a perversion and unnatural, but i'm also not stupid enough to think that homosexuals are destroying humanity at any faster of a rate than heterosexuals. Heterosexuals are more than capable of destroying humanity without any help from the homosexuals. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , John jr_esq@ wrote: A Cameroon archbishop stated so. http://news.yahoo.com/cameroon-archbishop-calls-same-sex-marriage-crime-agai nst-164343932.html
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There are lots of gay people in the arts so the idea that homosexuality inhibits the growth of Create Intelligence is ridiculous. And what about people like Alan Turing? You might not be looking at FFL if not for him. On 12/26/2012 09:27 AM, John wrote: Seekliberation, It can be argued that homosexuality inhibits the growth of Creative Intelligence. The gross effect if not checked is the collapse of society. For example, many of the countries in Europe are losing population and are not replacing those who have died. As such, there will be no young people who could take over the jobs of the country which would contribute to the loss of productivity, or at worst the collapse of society. This trend has not yet reached this level of concern in the USA. But it is worth watching what would happen in Europe. JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@... wrote: I often wonder if these people who claim homosexuality is going to destroy humanity ever did any research on the statistics of homosexuals. Statistics like this: 1. Percentage of murders committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 2. Percentage of rapes committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 3. Percentage of members of congress responsible for the housing market bubble crisis that were homosexual vs. heterosexual 4. Percentage of congress, DOD, and Dept of State members who justified unnecessary wars who were homosexual vs. heterosexual 5. Percentage of theft and fraud committed by homo vs. hetero I don't know if there's a way to research these stats because some people hide the fact that they're homosexual. But I can say this from experience: I've been lied to, assaulted, cheated, had personal belongings stolen, verbally insulted, and none of the people who did these things were gay/lesbian (at least not openly). This is very typical hypocrisy, to create severe problems in society then demonize some other social group who doesn't contribute even a fraction to the really serious problems that you do. I'm open to the idea that homosexuality is a perversion and unnatural, but i'm also not stupid enough to think that homosexuals are destroying humanity at any faster of a rate than heterosexuals. Heterosexuals are more than capable of destroying humanity without any help from the homosexuals. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: A Cameroon archbishop stated so. http://news.yahoo.com/cameroon-archbishop-calls-same-sex-marriage-crime-against-164343932.html
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God damn my back is not going to survive another few posts of this kind - every time I laugh it hurts From: Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 12:42 PM Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity You mean there are so many gay people in Europe that they’re birth rates are dropping? From:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 11:28 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity Seekliberation, It can be argued that homosexuality inhibits the growth of Creative Intelligence. The gross effect if not checked is the collapse of society. For example, many of the countries in Europe are losing population and are not replacing those who have died. As such, there will be no young people who could take over the jobs of the country which would contribute to the loss of productivity, or at worst the collapse of society. This trend has not yet reached this level of concern in the USA. But it is worth watching what would happen in Europe. JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@... wrote: I often wonder if these people who claim homosexuality is going to destroy humanity ever did any research on the statistics of homosexuals. Statistics like this: 1. Percentage of murders committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 2. Percentage of rapes committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 3. Percentage of members of congress responsible for the housing market bubble crisis that were homosexual vs. heterosexual 4. Percentage of congress, DOD, and Dept of State members who justified unnecessary wars who were homosexual vs. heterosexual 5. Percentage of theft and fraud committed by homo vs. hetero I don't know if there's a way to research these stats because some people hide the fact that they're homosexual. But I can say this from experience: I've been lied to, assaulted, cheated, had personal belongings stolen, verbally insulted, and none of the people who did these things were gay/lesbian (at least not openly). This is very typical hypocrisy, to create severe problems in society then demonize some other social group who doesn't contribute even a fraction to the really serious problems that you do. I'm open to the idea that homosexuality is a perversion and unnatural, but i'm also not stupid enough to think that homosexuals are destroying humanity at any faster of a rate than heterosexuals. Heterosexuals are more than capable of destroying humanity without any help from the homosexuals. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: A Cameroon archbishop stated so. http://news.yahoo.com/cameroon-archbishop-calls-same-sex-marriage-crime-against-164343932.html
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On 12/26/2012 10:43 AM, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: There are lots of gay people in the arts so the idea that homosexuality inhibits the growth of Create Intelligence is ridiculous. And what about people like Alan Turing? You might not be looking at FFL if not for him. I'm thinking/hoping today has been full of ironic posters but if not, hoo boy! And if it wasn't for our wonderful gay population there would virtually BE NO ARTS and a lot less creative and beautiful things on this planet. If that ain't creative intelligence I don't know what is. If anything, homophobia limits creative intelligence or displays a lack of it. On 12/26/2012 09:27 AM, John wrote: Seekliberation, It can be argued that homosexuality inhibits the growth of Creative Intelligence. The gross effect if not checked is the collapse of society. For example, many of the countries in Europe are losing population and are not replacing those who have died. As such, there will be no young people who could take over the jobs of the country which would contribute to the loss of productivity, or at worst the collapse of society. This trend has not yet reached this level of concern in the USA. But it is worth watching what would happen in Europe. JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@ wrote: I often wonder if these people who claim homosexuality is going to destroy humanity ever did any research on the statistics of homosexuals. Statistics like this: 1. Percentage of murders committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 2. Percentage of rapes committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 3. Percentage of members of congress responsible for the housing market bubble crisis that were homosexual vs. heterosexual 4. Percentage of congress, DOD, and Dept of State members who justified unnecessary wars who were homosexual vs. heterosexual 5. Percentage of theft and fraud committed by homo vs. hetero I don't know if there's a way to research these stats because some people hide the fact that they're homosexual. But I can say this from experience: I've been lied to, assaulted, cheated, had personal belongings stolen, verbally insulted, and none of the people who did these things were gay/lesbian (at least not openly). This is very typical hypocrisy, to create severe problems in society then demonize some other social group who doesn't contribute even a fraction to the really serious problems that you do. I'm open to the idea that homosexuality is a perversion and unnatural, but i'm also not stupid enough to think that homosexuals are destroying humanity at any faster of a rate than heterosexuals. Heterosexuals are more than capable of destroying humanity without any help from the homosexuals. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: A Cameroon archbishop stated so. http://news.yahoo.com/cameroon-archbishop-calls-same-sex-marriage-crime-against-164343932.html
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I will let others here on FFL who are more articulate respond to your asinine comments about gay people - as to Maha the great fraud, he was interested in his bank accounts - show me the evidence of his trying to save the planet and I'll take raja training - I am more persuaded by accounts of people like Mark Landau and Billy Clayton than anything else these days as to Marshy show me the money Yogi's motivations. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 2:48 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: A friend of mine got kicked off campus in the 80’s (expelled †he was a student) because he was openly, somewhat flagrantly gay. These days he’s in the good graces of the movement and doing a lot to help in various ways. Charlie Lutes used to claim that Maharishi had made dire predictions about the fate of gay people, such as “it would be better had they never been born�. I don’t know much more than that. Haven't heard that one, but perhaps Maharishi was right ? Anyway he was much to busy trying to save the planet from itself than being preoccupied with gays. However, it must be a great strain for any system, male or female to feel you are in a wrong body and the rate of suicide amongst gays is supposed to be very high. According to Adgar Casey homosexuals did'nt handle the transistion from another gender in the previous life, thus the extreme imbalances found in certain gays.
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And so with Rick's quoting Charlie your response isn't Oh, maybe M did have a bad attitude toward gays its maybe there is something inherently spiritually wrong with gays so that Marshy is right? Man, you talk about somebody needing an attitude adjustment - anyone who thinks, including a fake holy man that God judges ANYONE for who they love and how they love them is incorrect. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 2:48 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: A friend of mine got kicked off campus in the 80’s (expelled †he was a student) because he was openly, somewhat flagrantly gay. These days he’s in the good graces of the movement and doing a lot to help in various ways. Charlie Lutes used to claim that Maharishi had made dire predictions about the fate of gay people, such as “it would be better had they never been born�. I don’t know much more than that. Haven't heard that one, but perhaps Maharishi was right ? Anyway he was much to busy trying to save the planet from itself than being preoccupied with gays. However, it must be a great strain for any system, male or female to feel you are in a wrong body and the rate of suicide amongst gays is supposed to be very high. According to Adgar Casey homosexuals did'nt handle the transistion from another gender in the previous life, thus the extreme imbalances found in certain gays.
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I always thought it was a jyotish thang (-: From: salyavin808 fintlewoodle...@mail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 8:25 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: I am curious as to the TMO's position on gays - inthe 1980's at MIU I knew a guy from Canada who was gay and he claimed that there was a great deal of prejudice from the TMO toward gays as in if it were known someone were gay they would be asked to leave the university as apparently the TMO thought being gay reflected badly on the TMO - I had never heard this at the time and asked around and several people said it was true pretty much throughout the entire official Movement. At the time I was still a TM junkie, so didn't know what to think except that it was a pretty screwed up attitude for the Movement to take. Anyone know anything about the TMO's stance on gays and lesbians? Marshy apparently thought that homosexuality wouldn't happen in the AofE. Obviously then he saw it as violation of natural law but one that individuals can't help, it's just a yuga thang. From: seekliberation seekliberation@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 7:19 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity  I often wonder if these people who claim homosexuality is going to destroy humanity ever did any research on the statistics of homosexuals. Statistics like this: 1. Percentage of murders committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 2. Percentage of rapes committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 3. Percentage of members of congress responsible for the housing market bubble crisis that were homosexual vs. heterosexual 4. Percentage of congress, DOD, and Dept of State members who justified unnecessary wars who were homosexual vs. heterosexual 5. Percentage of theft and fraud committed by homo vs. hetero I don't know if there's a way to research these stats because some people hide the fact that they're homosexual. But I can say this from experience: I've been lied to, assaulted, cheated, had personal belongings stolen, verbally insulted, and none of the people who did these things were gay/lesbian (at least not openly). This is very typical hypocrisy, to create severe problems in society then demonize some other social group who doesn't contribute even a fraction to the really serious problems that you do. I'm open to the idea that homosexuality is a perversion and unnatural, but i'm also not stupid enough to think that homosexuals are destroying humanity at any faster of a rate than heterosexuals. Heterosexuals are more than capable of destroying humanity without any help from the homosexuals. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: A Cameroon archbishop stated so. http://news.yahoo.com/cameroon-archbishop-calls-same-sex-marriage-crime-against-164343932.html
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Oy, another book I can't remember. All about sub cultures. Including a very creative subculture that brought prosperity to any geographic area it inhabited. Too many holiday celebrations. Too much sugar ingested. Brain very fuzzy. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 11:50 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity There are lots of gay people in the arts so the idea that homosexuality inhibits the growth of Create Intelligence is ridiculous. And what about people like Alan Turing? You might not be looking at FFL if not for him. On 12/26/2012 09:27 AM, John wrote: Seekliberation, It can be argued that homosexuality inhibits the growth of Creative Intelligence. The gross effect if not checked is the collapse of society. For example, many of the countries in Europe are losing population and are not replacing those who have died. As such, there will be no young people who could take over the jobs of the country which would contribute to the loss of productivity, or at worst the collapse of society. This trend has not yet reached this level of concern in the USA. But it is worth watching what would happen in Europe. JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@... wrote: I often wonder if these people who claim homosexuality is going to destroy humanity ever did any research on the statistics of homosexuals. Statistics like this: 1. Percentage of murders committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 2. Percentage of rapes committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals 3. Percentage of members of congress responsible for the housing market bubble crisis that were homosexual vs. heterosexual 4. Percentage of congress, DOD, and Dept of State members who justified unnecessary wars who were homosexual vs. heterosexual 5. Percentage of theft and fraud committed by homo vs. hetero I don't know if there's a way to research these stats because some people hide the fact that they're homosexual. But I can say this from experience: I've been lied to, assaulted, cheated, had personal belongings stolen, verbally insulted, and none of the people who did these things were gay/lesbian (at least not openly). This is very typical hypocrisy, to create severe problems in society then demonize some other social group who doesn't contribute even a fraction to the really serious problems that you do. I'm open to the idea that homosexuality is a perversion and unnatural, but i'm also not stupid enough to think that homosexuals are destroying humanity at any faster of a rate than heterosexuals. Heterosexuals are more than capable of destroying humanity without any help from the homosexuals. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: A Cameroon archbishop stated so. http://news.yahoo.com/cameroon-archbishop-calls-same-sex-marriage-crime-against-164343932.html
