Buck I was simply curious as to what the unofficial official position of the 
TMO was/is about gays - the few I knew at MIU were really afraid of being outed 
and dismissed from MIU based apparently on treatment and events that had taken 
place among the TMO in Canada. The people I talked to at the time all said the 
Movement frowned on gays, thought it made the TMO look bad and that 
unofficially the Big M was down on homosexuality, so being that there are a lot 
of old timers here on FFL, I wondered if they knew anything about it.

You seem to be afraid that yet another aspect of the seamy underbelly of the 
movement will come out, you know like the Movement keeping files on meditators 
in the Fairfield community, eveybody s'posed to be celibate or they won't get 
enlightened and all the other unofficial official stuff the TMO has always 
lived by? 

So I am curious if the TMO has had an unofficial policy of meditation for 
everyone (but no gays in our Global Country of World Peace, please) or were the 
gays at MIU just being paranoid? By the way what in the world do you think is 
revolutionary about Maha saying everyone should meditate? I haven't seen any 
other meditation teachers saying "No, just a few folks should do our 
meditation." All meditation teachers of all kinds think everyone should 
meditate. There is not one thing revolutionary about that  - besides everyone 
doing TM would have been good for Maha's bank account. No surprise there.




________________________________
 From: Buck <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 9:00 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity
 

  
You know, the extraordinarily revolutionary thing about Maharishi's teaching is 
that it says that everyone should meditate.  Not just should but must for very 
sound scientific reasons.  Meditation for all Regardless of politics, gender 
roles, even sexual orientation that this meditation and the science of 
meditation is the essential ingredient for all humanity moving progressively 
forward in their birthright. Even tea-party nuts, vegans, omnivores, atheists, 
Republicans and Islamicists.  It is important that we not let little things get 
in the way of people coming together in meditation and enlightenment. 
-Buck in the Dome 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seekliberation" <seekliberation@...> 
wrote:
>
> During my time at MIU/MUM, the question came up in private conversations.  
> Open discussion about homosexuality never came up in class; anything 
> controversial was never to be talked about in class. 
> 
> But in private conversation, it was agreed upon by most that homsexuality was 
> bad for evolution, according to Vedic Science.  Personally, I don't know of 
> any of the 5 major world religions that don't have a derogatory attitude 
> towards gays/lesbians. 
> 
> seekliberation
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson <mjackson74@> wrote:
> >
> > I am curious as to the TMO's position on gays - inthe 1980's at MIU I knew 
> > a guy from Canada who was gay and he claimed that there was a great deal of 
> > prejudice from the TMO toward gays as in if it were known someone were gay 
> > they would be asked to leave the university as apparently the TMO thought 
> > being gay reflected badly on the TMO - I had never heard this at the time 
> > and asked around and several people said it was true pretty much throughout 
> > the entire official Movement. At the time I was still a TM junkie, so 
> > didn't know what to think except that it was a pretty screwed up attitude 
> > for the Movement to take. Anyone know anything about the TMO's stance on 
> > gays and lesbians?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ________________________________
> >  From: seekliberation <seekliberation@>
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 7:19 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Same Sex Marriage Is a Crime Against Humanity
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > I often wonder if these people who claim homosexuality is going to destroy 
> > humanity ever did any research on the statistics of homosexuals.  
> > Statistics like this:
> > 
> > 1.  Percentage of murders committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals
> > 2.  Percentage of rapes committed by homosexuals vs. heterosexuals
> > 3.  Percentage of members of congress responsible for the housing market 
> > bubble crisis that were homosexual vs. heterosexual
> > 4.  Percentage of congress, DOD, and Dept of State members who justified 
> > unnecessary wars who were homosexual vs. heterosexual
> > 5.  Percentage of theft and fraud committed by homo vs. hetero
> > 
> > I don't know if there's a way to research these stats because some people 
> > hide the fact that they're homosexual.  But I can say this from experience: 
> >  I've been lied to, assaulted, cheated, had personal belongings stolen, 
> > verbally insulted, and none of the people who did these things were 
> > gay/lesbian (at least not openly). 
> > 
> > This is very typical hypocrisy, to create severe problems in society then 
> > demonize some other social group who doesn't contribute even a fraction to 
> > the really serious problems that you do. I'm open to the idea that 
> > homosexuality is a perversion and unnatural, but i'm also not stupid enough 
> > to think that homosexuals are destroying humanity at any faster of a rate 
> > than heterosexuals.  Heterosexuals are more than capable of destroying 
> > humanity without any help from the homosexuals. 
> > 
> > seekliberation
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <jr_esq@> wrote:
> > >
> > > A Cameroon archbishop stated so.
> > > 
> > > http://news.yahoo.com/cameroon-archbishop-calls-same-sex-marriage-crime-against-164343932.html
> > >
> >
>


 

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