RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Transcendental Meditation Revolutionary Mission:

2013-11-12 Thread sharelong60
You're welcome, Judy and I wrote the email as soon as I realized what I had 
been missing. It did not feel at all hard to do. Go figure! 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Good for you, Share. I don't think this was easy for you to acknowledge. Thank 
you. 
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Oy! I just got it Judy! Duh! Well I've always thought of myself as an early 
morning person and imho, that explains a lot. sigh...I'm never gonna be the 
sharpest tack in the FFL box but that's ok with me. How boring it would be if 
we were all the same.

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Right, I'm threatened because you stupidly got something I said wrong and 
can't bring yourself to admit it.
 

 Share, I know you're trying your best, but really...
 

 Think, honey, think. Don't just blather.
 

  
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Next step, Judy resorts to ridicule. But why? Why does she feel so threatened? 
And so often? 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 (giggle) Poor baby.
 
Share boo-hooed:
 > I haven't figured it out. I didn't reply to you before because you resorted 
 > to name calling.
 

 

 
 
 On Monday, November 11, 2013 1:25 PM, "authfriend@..."  wrote:
 
   So, Share, have you figured out where you made your mistake with "OTOH" in 
response to what I said? No? Or do you just not want to admit it? 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Xeno, fyi, I have Hellman's REAL Mayonnaise in my frig, wouldn't use anything 
else for tuna fish salad! As for the quote, MUM Sanskrit professor Dr. Tom 
Egenes shared it with our class during the 91-92 school year when I was taking 
the MA in SCI. It's one of those phrases that stuck with me because it's so 
unexpected, paradoxical, koany, etc.

Some say that maya ruled by tamas guna is a covering, ruled by rajo guma is a 
veil. But maya ruled by sat guna, it actually said to be a ladder to ultimate 
reality. Go figure (-:
 
 
 On Monday, November 11, 2013 12:45 PM, "anartaxius@..."  wrote:
 
   Does anyone here know the source of the quote "My indestructible Maya"? On 
the Internet I find just a small collection of websites, FFL principally, 
mentioning the phrase, but no precise source. Since Share quoted it, I assume 
that she is picking it out of her memory rather than from a source text. I 
recall the phrase, but my feeble aging brain, cannot recall where I read or 
otherwise heard it.
 

 Is this translated phrase from the Vedas (and which one? Rig, etc.), the 
Upanishads, or the Bhagavad-Gita? (in particular the MMY translation of the 
latter)
 

 Whether Maya is real or not, it is certainly present here on FFL.
 

 I have seen this product in refrigerators of meditators, "Vegenaise", a non 
animal derived product purporting to replace mayonnaise. Maybe itshould be 
called Mayannaise instead, except people would probably confuse it with the 
Mayan civilisation of Central America. But then, confusion is the whole purpose 
of Maya. Gotta love this universe for beating us up this way.
 
 

 




 
 
 
 



 
 

 
 



 
 
 
 













RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Transcendental Meditation Revolutionary Mission:

2013-11-12 Thread authfriend
Good for you, Share. I don't think this was easy for you to acknowledge. Thank 
you. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Oy! I just got it Judy! Duh! Well I've always thought of myself as an early 
morning person and imho, that explains a lot. sigh...I'm never gonna be the 
sharpest tack in the FFL box but that's ok with me. How boring it would be if 
we were all the same.

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Right, I'm threatened because you stupidly got something I said wrong and 
can't bring yourself to admit it.
 

 Share, I know you're trying your best, but really...
 

 Think, honey, think. Don't just blather.
 

  
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Next step, Judy resorts to ridicule. But why? Why does she feel so threatened? 
And so often? 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 (giggle) Poor baby.
 
Share boo-hooed:
 > I haven't figured it out. I didn't reply to you before because you resorted 
 > to name calling.
 

 

 
 
 On Monday, November 11, 2013 1:25 PM, "authfriend@..."  wrote:
 
   So, Share, have you figured out where you made your mistake with "OTOH" in 
response to what I said? No? Or do you just not want to admit it? 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Xeno, fyi, I have Hellman's REAL Mayonnaise in my frig, wouldn't use anything 
else for tuna fish salad! As for the quote, MUM Sanskrit professor Dr. Tom 
Egenes shared it with our class during the 91-92 school year when I was taking 
the MA in SCI. It's one of those phrases that stuck with me because it's so 
unexpected, paradoxical, koany, etc.

Some say that maya ruled by tamas guna is a covering, ruled by rajo guma is a 
veil. But maya ruled by sat guna, it actually said to be a ladder to ultimate 
reality. Go figure (-:
 
 
 On Monday, November 11, 2013 12:45 PM, "anartaxius@..."  wrote:
 
   Does anyone here know the source of the quote "My indestructible Maya"? On 
the Internet I find just a small collection of websites, FFL principally, 
mentioning the phrase, but no precise source. Since Share quoted it, I assume 
that she is picking it out of her memory rather than from a source text. I 
recall the phrase, but my feeble aging brain, cannot recall where I read or 
otherwise heard it.
 

 Is this translated phrase from the Vedas (and which one? Rig, etc.), the 
Upanishads, or the Bhagavad-Gita? (in particular the MMY translation of the 
latter)
 

 Whether Maya is real or not, it is certainly present here on FFL.
 

 I have seen this product in refrigerators of meditators, "Vegenaise", a non 
animal derived product purporting to replace mayonnaise. Maybe itshould be 
called Mayannaise instead, except people would probably confuse it with the 
Mayan civilisation of Central America. But then, confusion is the whole purpose 
of Maya. Gotta love this universe for beating us up this way.
 
 

 




 
 
 
 



 
 

 
 



 
 
 
 











RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Transcendental Meditation Revolutionary Mission:

2013-11-12 Thread sharelong60
Oy! I just got it Judy! Duh! Well I've always thought of myself as an early 
morning person and imho, that explains a lot. sigh...I'm never gonna be the 
sharpest tack in the FFL box but that's ok with me. How boring it would be if 
we were all the same.

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Right, I'm threatened because you stupidly got something I said wrong and 
can't bring yourself to admit it.
 

 Share, I know you're trying your best, but really...
 

 Think, honey, think. Don't just blather.
 

  
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Next step, Judy resorts to ridicule. But why? Why does she feel so threatened? 
And so often? 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 (giggle) Poor baby.
 
Share boo-hooed:
 > I haven't figured it out. I didn't reply to you before because you resorted 
 > to name calling.
 

 

 
 
 On Monday, November 11, 2013 1:25 PM, "authfriend@..."  wrote:
 
   So, Share, have you figured out where you made your mistake with "OTOH" in 
response to what I said? No? Or do you just not want to admit it? 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Xeno, fyi, I have Hellman's REAL Mayonnaise in my frig, wouldn't use anything 
else for tuna fish salad! As for the quote, MUM Sanskrit professor Dr. Tom 
Egenes shared it with our class during the 91-92 school year when I was taking 
the MA in SCI. It's one of those phrases that stuck with me because it's so 
unexpected, paradoxical, koany, etc.

Some say that maya ruled by tamas guna is a covering, ruled by rajo guma is a 
veil. But maya ruled by sat guna, it actually said to be a ladder to ultimate 
reality. Go figure (-:
 
 
 On Monday, November 11, 2013 12:45 PM, "anartaxius@..."  wrote:
 
   Does anyone here know the source of the quote "My indestructible Maya"? On 
the Internet I find just a small collection of websites, FFL principally, 
mentioning the phrase, but no precise source. Since Share quoted it, I assume 
that she is picking it out of her memory rather than from a source text. I 
recall the phrase, but my feeble aging brain, cannot recall where I read or 
otherwise heard it.
 

 Is this translated phrase from the Vedas (and which one? Rig, etc.), the 
Upanishads, or the Bhagavad-Gita? (in particular the MMY translation of the 
latter)
 

 Whether Maya is real or not, it is certainly present here on FFL.
 

 I have seen this product in refrigerators of meditators, "Vegenaise", a non 
animal derived product purporting to replace mayonnaise. Maybe itshould be 
called Mayannaise instead, except people would probably confuse it with the 
Mayan civilisation of Central America. But then, confusion is the whole purpose 
of Maya. Gotta love this universe for beating us up this way.
 
 

 




 
 
 
 



 
 

 
 



 
 
 
 









RE: RE: RE: Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Transcendental Meditation Revolutionary Mission:

2013-11-11 Thread authfriend
Right, I'm threatened because you stupidly got something I said wrong and can't 
bring yourself to admit it.
 

 Share, I know you're trying your best, but really...
 

 Think, honey, think. Don't just blather.
 

  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Next step, Judy resorts to ridicule. But why? Why does she feel so threatened? 
And so often? 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 (giggle) Poor baby.
 
Share boo-hooed:
 > I haven't figured it out. I didn't reply to you before because you resorted 
 > to name calling.
 

 

 
 
 On Monday, November 11, 2013 1:25 PM, "authfriend@..."  wrote:
 
   So, Share, have you figured out where you made your mistake with "OTOH" in 
response to what I said? No? Or do you just not want to admit it? 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Xeno, fyi, I have Hellman's REAL Mayonnaise in my frig, wouldn't use anything 
else for tuna fish salad! As for the quote, MUM Sanskrit professor Dr. Tom 
Egenes shared it with our class during the 91-92 school year when I was taking 
the MA in SCI. It's one of those phrases that stuck with me because it's so 
unexpected, paradoxical, koany, etc.

Some say that maya ruled by tamas guna is a covering, ruled by rajo guma is a 
veil. But maya ruled by sat guna, it actually said to be a ladder to ultimate 
reality. Go figure (-:
 
 
 On Monday, November 11, 2013 12:45 PM, "anartaxius@..."  wrote:
 
   Does anyone here know the source of the quote "My indestructible Maya"? On 
the Internet I find just a small collection of websites, FFL principally, 
mentioning the phrase, but no precise source. Since Share quoted it, I assume 
that she is picking it out of her memory rather than from a source text. I 
recall the phrase, but my feeble aging brain, cannot recall where I read or 
otherwise heard it.
 

 Is this translated phrase from the Vedas (and which one? Rig, etc.), the 
Upanishads, or the Bhagavad-Gita? (in particular the MMY translation of the 
latter)
 

 Whether Maya is real or not, it is certainly present here on FFL.
 

 I have seen this product in refrigerators of meditators, "Vegenaise", a non 
animal derived product purporting to replace mayonnaise. Maybe itshould be 
called Mayannaise instead, except people would probably confuse it with the 
Mayan civilisation of Central America. But then, confusion is the whole purpose 
of Maya. Gotta love this universe for beating us up this way.
 
 

 




 
 
 
 



 
 

 
 



 
 
 
 







RE: RE: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Transcendental Meditation Revolutionary Mission:

2013-11-11 Thread emilymaenot
I sent this at 10:30 this morning.  It was posted at 4:18 pm.  It must be a 
sign.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 I'm rootin' for you Share.  I'm slow on the uptake too, but I think I got this 
one.  The clue is:  Read *all* the words, as Judy has pointed out.   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Read what I wrote again, dimwit. HINT: Read all the words. When you see where 
you made your mistake, let us know, OK?
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 > Judy, from what I noted, Maharishi said that Brahman is maya. You wrote that 
 > Maharishi 
 > said that Brahman is not maya. Maybe it's simply a case of the teacher 
 > contradicting himself 
 > so that the students don't get trapped in intellectual understanding.
 

 

 On Monday, November 11, 2013 11:17 AM, "authfriend@..."  wrote:
 
   "OTOH"?? Read what I wrote again, Share.
 

 Share fumbled:

> OTOH, in the Veda it's written: Brahman says, "My indestructible maya." And 
 > Maharishi has explained that at the deepest level of every cell of our body, 
 > Purusha IS 
 > Prakriti.
 

 (snip)
 I wrote:
 > > Finally, according to Maharishi, Maya is "that which is not"--but the 
 > > illusion involved is 
 > > not that Maya is not real, but rather that it isn't Brahman.


 




















 
 
 
 

 





RE: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Transcendental Meditation Revolutionary Mission:

2013-11-11 Thread emilymaenot
I'm rootin' for you Share.  I'm slow on the uptake too, but I think I got this 
one.  The clue is:  Read *all* the words, as Judy has pointed out.   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Read what I wrote again, dimwit. HINT: Read all the words. When you see where 
you made your mistake, let us know, OK?
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 > Judy, from what I noted, Maharishi said that Brahman is maya. You wrote that 
 > Maharishi 
 > said that Brahman is not maya. Maybe it's simply a case of the teacher 
 > contradicting himself 
 > so that the students don't get trapped in intellectual understanding.
 

 

 On Monday, November 11, 2013 11:17 AM, "authfriend@..."  wrote:
 
   "OTOH"?? Read what I wrote again, Share.
 

 Share fumbled:

> OTOH, in the Veda it's written: Brahman says, "My indestructible maya." And 
 > Maharishi has explained that at the deepest level of every cell of our body, 
 > Purusha IS 
 > Prakriti.
 

 (snip)
 I wrote:
 > > Finally, according to Maharishi, Maya is "that which is not"--but the 
 > > illusion involved is 
 > > not that Maya is not real, but rather that it isn't Brahman.


 




















 
 
 
 

 



RE: RE: RE: Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Transcendental Meditation Revolutionary Mission:

2013-11-11 Thread authfriend
Right. I'm threatened because you stupidly got something I said wrong and can't 
bring yourself to admit it.
 

 Share, I know you're trying your best, but really...
 

 Think,  honey, think. Don't just blather. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Next step, Judy resorts to ridicule. But why? Why does she feel so threatened? 
And so often? 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 (giggle) Poor baby.
 
Share boo-hooed:
 > I haven't figured it out. I didn't reply to you before because you resorted 
 > to name calling.
 

 

 
 
 On Monday, November 11, 2013 1:25 PM, "authfriend@..."  wrote:
 
   So, Share, have you figured out where you made your mistake with "OTOH" in 
response to what I said? No? Or do you just not want to admit it? 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Xeno, fyi, I have Hellman's REAL Mayonnaise in my frig, wouldn't use anything 
else for tuna fish salad! As for the quote, MUM Sanskrit professor Dr. Tom 
Egenes shared it with our class during the 91-92 school year when I was taking 
the MA in SCI. It's one of those phrases that stuck with me because it's so 
unexpected, paradoxical, koany, etc.

Some say that maya ruled by tamas guna is a covering, ruled by rajo guma is a 
veil. But maya ruled by sat guna, it actually said to be a ladder to ultimate 
reality. Go figure (-:
 
 
 On Monday, November 11, 2013 12:45 PM, "anartaxius@..."  wrote:
 
   Does anyone here know the source of the quote "My indestructible Maya"? On 
the Internet I find just a small collection of websites, FFL principally, 
mentioning the phrase, but no precise source. Since Share quoted it, I assume 
that she is picking it out of her memory rather than from a source text. I 
recall the phrase, but my feeble aging brain, cannot recall where I read or 
otherwise heard it.
 

 Is this translated phrase from the Vedas (and which one? Rig, etc.), the 
Upanishads, or the Bhagavad-Gita? (in particular the MMY translation of the 
latter)
 

 Whether Maya is real or not, it is certainly present here on FFL.
 

 I have seen this product in refrigerators of meditators, "Vegenaise", a non 
animal derived product purporting to replace mayonnaise. Maybe itshould be 
called Mayannaise instead, except people would probably confuse it with the 
Mayan civilisation of Central America. But then, confusion is the whole purpose 
of Maya. Gotta love this universe for beating us up this way.
 
 

 




 
 
 
 



 
 

 
 



 
 
 
 







RE: RE: Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Transcendental Meditation Revolutionary Mission:

2013-11-11 Thread sharelong60
Next step, Judy resorts to ridicule. But why? Why does she feel so threatened? 
And so often? 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 (giggle) Poor baby.
 
Share boo-hooed:
 > I haven't figured it out. I didn't reply to you before because you resorted 
 > to name calling.
 

 

 
 
 On Monday, November 11, 2013 1:25 PM, "authfriend@..."  wrote:
 
   So, Share, have you figured out where you made your mistake with "OTOH" in 
response to what I said? No? Or do you just not want to admit it? 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Xeno, fyi, I have Hellman's REAL Mayonnaise in my frig, wouldn't use anything 
else for tuna fish salad! As for the quote, MUM Sanskrit professor Dr. Tom 
Egenes shared it with our class during the 91-92 school year when I was taking 
the MA in SCI. It's one of those phrases that stuck with me because it's so 
unexpected, paradoxical, koany, etc.

Some say that maya ruled by tamas guna is a covering, ruled by rajo guma is a 
veil. But maya ruled by sat guna, it actually said to be a ladder to ultimate 
reality. Go figure (-:
 
 
 On Monday, November 11, 2013 12:45 PM, "anartaxius@..."  wrote:
 
   Does anyone here know the source of the quote "My indestructible Maya"? On 
the Internet I find just a small collection of websites, FFL principally, 
mentioning the phrase, but no precise source. Since Share quoted it, I assume 
that she is picking it out of her memory rather than from a source text. I 
recall the phrase, but my feeble aging brain, cannot recall where I read or 
otherwise heard it.
 

 Is this translated phrase from the Vedas (and which one? Rig, etc.), the 
Upanishads, or the Bhagavad-Gita? (in particular the MMY translation of the 
latter)
 

 Whether Maya is real or not, it is certainly present here on FFL.
 

 I have seen this product in refrigerators of meditators, "Vegenaise", a non 
animal derived product purporting to replace mayonnaise. Maybe itshould be 
called Mayannaise instead, except people would probably confuse it with the 
Mayan civilisation of Central America. But then, confusion is the whole purpose 
of Maya. Gotta love this universe for beating us up this way.
 
 

 




 
 
 
 



 
 

 
 



 
 
 
 





Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Transcendental Meditation Revolutionary Mission:

2013-11-11 Thread Share Long
Xeno, Tom does not equal Veda for me but I did trust him as a professor.





On Monday, November 11, 2013 1:57 PM, "anartax...@yahoo.com" 
 wrote:
 
  
But where did the quote come from? If Tom Egnes is the source, then Tom = Veda, 
and we can skip Indian literature altogether.

Another version of the idea is 'The world is unreal; Brahman is real; the world 
is Brahman'. This seems to be translation of a quotation by Shankara commenting 
on one of the Upanishads, but I do not know which one.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:


Xeno, I googled on brahman maya and there were lots of hits. There were also a 
lot of hits under brahman maya relationship. It seems to be quite 
controversial, some saying maya is not real and others saying it is real. And 
my favorite was the teacher who said it's pointless to try and understand it 
until one is enlightened. But I find it enjoyable to let the brain play with 
these ideas. 





On Monday, November 11, 2013 1:30 PM, Share Long  wrote:
 
  
I haven't figured it out. I didn't reply to you before because you resorted to 
name calling.





On Monday, November 11, 2013 1:25 PM, "authfriend@..."  wrote:
 
  
So, Share, have you figured out where you made your mistake with "OTOH" in 
response to what I said? No? Or do you just not want to admit it? 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:


Xeno, fyi, I have Hellman's REAL Mayonnaise in my frig, wouldn't use anything 
else for tuna fish salad! As for the quote, MUM Sanskrit professor Dr. Tom 
Egenes shared it with our class during the 91-92 school year when I was taking 
the MA in SCI. It's one of those phrases that stuck with me because it's so 
unexpected, paradoxical, koany, etc.

Some say that maya ruled by tamas guna
 is a covering,
 ruled by rajo guma is a veil. But maya
 ruled by sat guna, it actually said to be a ladder to ultimate reality. Go 
figure (-:




On Monday, November 11, 2013 12:45 PM, "anartaxius@..."  wrote:
 
  
Does anyone here know the source of the quote "My indestructible Maya"? On the 
Internet I find just a small collection of websites, FFL principally, 
mentioning the phrase, but no precise source. Since Share quoted it, I assume 
that she is picking it out of her memory rather than from a source text. I 
recall the phrase, but my feeble aging brain, cannot recall where I read or 
otherwise heard it.

Is this translated phrase from the Vedas (and which one? Rig, etc.), the 
Upanishads, or the Bhagavad-Gita? (in particular the MMY translation of the 
latter)

Whether Maya is real or not, it is certainly present here on FFL.

I have seen this product in refrigerators of meditators, "Vegenaise", a non 
animal derived product purporting to replace mayonnaise. Maybe itshould be 
called Mayannaise instead, except people would probably confuse it with the 
Mayan civilisation of Central America. But then, confusion is the whole purpose 
of Maya. Gotta love this universe for beating us up this way.








RE: Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Transcendental Meditation Revolutionary Mission:

2013-11-11 Thread anartaxius
But where did the quote come from? If Tom Egnes is the source, then Tom = Veda, 
and we can skip Indian literature altogether.
 

 Another version of the idea is 'The world is unreal; Brahman is real; the 
world is Brahman'. This seems to be translation of a quotation by Shankara 
commenting on one of the Upanishads, but I do not know which one.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Xeno, I googled on brahman maya and there were lots of hits. There were also a 
lot of hits under brahman maya relationship. It seems to be quite 
controversial, some saying maya is not real and others saying it is real. And 
my favorite was the teacher who said it's pointless to try and understand it 
until one is enlightened. But I find it enjoyable to let the brain play with 
these ideas. 
 

 
 
 On Monday, November 11, 2013 1:30 PM, Share Long  wrote:
 
   I haven't figured it out. I didn't reply to you before because you resorted 
to name calling.
 

 
 
 On Monday, November 11, 2013 1:25 PM, "authfriend@..."  wrote:
 
   So, Share, have you figured out where you made your mistake with "OTOH" in 
response to what I said? No? Or do you just not want to admit it? 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Xeno, fyi, I have Hellman's REAL Mayonnaise in my frig, wouldn't use anything 
else for tuna fish salad! As for the quote, MUM Sanskrit professor Dr. Tom 
Egenes shared it with our class during the 91-92 school year when I was taking 
the MA in SCI. It's one of those phrases that stuck with me because it's so 
unexpected, paradoxical, koany, etc.

Some say that maya ruled by tamas guna is a covering, ruled by rajo guma is a 
veil. But maya ruled by sat guna, it actually said to be a ladder to ultimate 
reality. Go figure (-:
 
 
 On Monday, November 11, 2013 12:45 PM, "anartaxius@..."  wrote:
 
   Does anyone here know the source of the quote "My indestructible Maya"? On 
the Internet I find just a small collection of websites, FFL principally, 
mentioning the phrase, but no precise source. Since Share quoted it, I assume 
that she is picking it out of her memory rather than from a source text. I 
recall the phrase, but my feeble aging brain, cannot recall where I read or 
otherwise heard it.
 

 Is this translated phrase from the Vedas (and which one? Rig, etc.), the 
Upanishads, or the Bhagavad-Gita? (in particular the MMY translation of the 
latter)
 

 Whether Maya is real or not, it is certainly present here on FFL.
 

 I have seen this product in refrigerators of meditators, "Vegenaise", a non 
animal derived product purporting to replace mayonnaise. Maybe itshould be 
called Mayannaise instead, except people would probably confuse it with the 
Mayan civilisation of Central America. But then, confusion is the whole purpose 
of Maya. Gotta love this universe for beating us up this way.
 
 

 




 
 
 
 



 
 

 




 
 
 
 


 
 

 
 





 
 
 
 









RE: Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Transcendental Meditation Revolutionary Mission:

2013-11-11 Thread authfriend
(giggle) Poor baby.
 
Share boo-hooed:
 > I haven't figured it out. I didn't reply to you before because you resorted 
 > to name calling.
 

 
 
 On Monday, November 11, 2013 1:25 PM, "authfriend@..."  wrote:
 
   So, Share, have you figured out where you made your mistake with "OTOH" in 
response to what I said? No? Or do you just not want to admit it? 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Xeno, fyi, I have Hellman's REAL Mayonnaise in my frig, wouldn't use anything 
else for tuna fish salad! As for the quote, MUM Sanskrit professor Dr. Tom 
Egenes shared it with our class during the 91-92 school year when I was taking 
the MA in SCI. It's one of those phrases that stuck with me because it's so 
unexpected, paradoxical, koany, etc.

Some say that maya ruled by tamas guna is a covering, ruled by rajo guma is a 
veil. But maya ruled by sat guna, it actually said to be a ladder to ultimate 
reality. Go figure (-:
 
 
 On Monday, November 11, 2013 12:45 PM, "anartaxius@..."  wrote:
 
   Does anyone here know the source of the quote "My indestructible Maya"? On 
the Internet I find just a small collection of websites, FFL principally, 
mentioning the phrase, but no precise source. Since Share quoted it, I assume 
that she is picking it out of her memory rather than from a source text. I 
recall the phrase, but my feeble aging brain, cannot recall where I read or 
otherwise heard it.
 

 Is this translated phrase from the Vedas (and which one? Rig, etc.), the 
Upanishads, or the Bhagavad-Gita? (in particular the MMY translation of the 
latter)
 

 Whether Maya is real or not, it is certainly present here on FFL.
 

 I have seen this product in refrigerators of meditators, "Vegenaise", a non 
animal derived product purporting to replace mayonnaise. Maybe itshould be 
called Mayannaise instead, except people would probably confuse it with the 
Mayan civilisation of Central America. But then, confusion is the whole purpose 
of Maya. Gotta love this universe for beating us up this way.
 
 

 




 
 
 
 



 
 

 
 



 
 
 
 





Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Transcendental Meditation Revolutionary Mission:

2013-11-11 Thread Share Long
Xeno, I googled on brahman maya and there were lots of hits. There were also a 
lot of hits under brahman maya relationship. It seems to be quite 
controversial, some saying maya is not real and others saying it is real. And 
my favorite was the teacher who said it's pointless to try and understand it 
until one is enlightened. But I find it enjoyable to let the brain play with 
these ideas. 





On Monday, November 11, 2013 1:30 PM, Share Long  wrote:
 
  
I haven't figured it out. I didn't reply to you before because you resorted to 
name calling.





On Monday, November 11, 2013 1:25 PM, "authfri...@yahoo.com" 
 wrote:
 
  
So, Share, have you figured out where you made your mistake with "OTOH" in 
response to what I said? No? Or do you just not want to admit it? 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:


Xeno, fyi, I have Hellman's REAL Mayonnaise in my frig, wouldn't use anything 
else for tuna fish salad! As for the quote, MUM Sanskrit professor Dr. Tom 
Egenes shared it with our class during the 91-92 school year when I was taking 
the MA in SCI. It's one of those phrases that stuck with me because it's so 
unexpected, paradoxical, koany, etc.

Some say that maya ruled by tamas guna is a covering,
 ruled by rajo guma is a veil. But maya
 ruled by sat guna, it actually said to be a ladder to ultimate reality. Go 
figure (-:




On Monday, November 11, 2013 12:45 PM, "anartaxius@..."  wrote:
 
  
Does anyone here know the source of the quote "My indestructible Maya"? On the 
Internet I find just a small collection of websites, FFL principally, 
mentioning the phrase, but no precise source. Since Share quoted it, I assume 
that she is picking it out of her memory rather than from a source text. I 
recall the phrase, but my feeble aging brain, cannot recall where I read or 
otherwise heard it.

Is this translated phrase from the Vedas (and which one? Rig, etc.), the 
Upanishads, or the Bhagavad-Gita? (in particular the MMY translation of the 
latter)

Whether Maya is real or not, it is certainly present here on FFL.

I have seen this product in refrigerators of meditators, "Vegenaise", a non 
animal derived product purporting to replace mayonnaise. Maybe itshould be 
called Mayannaise instead, except people would probably confuse it with the 
Mayan civilisation of Central America. But then, confusion is the whole purpose 
of Maya. Gotta love this universe for beating us up this way.






Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Transcendental Meditation Revolutionary Mission:

2013-11-11 Thread Share Long
I haven't figured it out. I didn't reply to you before because you resorted to 
name calling.





On Monday, November 11, 2013 1:25 PM, "authfri...@yahoo.com" 
 wrote:
 
  
So, Share, have you figured out where you made your mistake with "OTOH" in 
response to what I said? No? Or do you just not want to admit it? 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:


Xeno, fyi, I have Hellman's REAL Mayonnaise in my frig, wouldn't use anything 
else for tuna fish salad! As for the quote, MUM Sanskrit professor Dr. Tom 
Egenes shared it with our class during the 91-92 school year when I was taking 
the MA in SCI. It's one of those phrases that stuck with me because it's so 
unexpected, paradoxical, koany, etc.

Some say that maya ruled by tamas guna is a covering, ruled by rajo guma is a 
veil. But maya ruled by sat guna, it actually said to be a ladder to ultimate 
reality. Go figure (-:




On Monday, November 11, 2013 12:45 PM, "anartaxius@..."  wrote:
 
  
Does anyone here know the source of the quote "My indestructible Maya"? On the 
Internet I find just a small collection of websites, FFL principally, 
mentioning the phrase, but no precise source. Since Share quoted it, I assume 
that she is picking it out of her memory rather than from a source text. I 
recall the phrase, but my feeble aging brain, cannot recall where I read or 
otherwise heard it.

Is this translated phrase from the Vedas (and which one? Rig, etc.), the 
Upanishads, or the Bhagavad-Gita? (in particular the MMY translation of the 
latter)

Whether Maya is real or not, it is certainly present here on FFL.

I have seen this product in refrigerators of meditators, "Vegenaise", a non 
animal derived product purporting to replace mayonnaise. Maybe itshould be 
called Mayannaise instead, except people would probably confuse it with the 
Mayan civilisation of Central America. But then, confusion is the whole purpose 
of Maya. Gotta love this universe for beating us up this way.




RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Transcendental Meditation Revolutionary Mission:

2013-11-11 Thread authfriend
So, Share, have you figured out where you made your mistake with "OTOH" in 
response to what I said? No? Or do you just not want to admit it? 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Xeno, fyi, I have Hellman's REAL Mayonnaise in my frig, wouldn't use anything 
else for tuna fish salad! As for the quote, MUM Sanskrit professor Dr. Tom 
Egenes shared it with our class during the 91-92 school year when I was taking 
the MA in SCI. It's one of those phrases that stuck with me because it's so 
unexpected, paradoxical, koany, etc.

Some say that maya ruled by tamas guna is a covering, ruled by rajo guma is a 
veil. But maya ruled by sat guna, it actually said to be a ladder to ultimate 
reality. Go figure (-:
 
 
 On Monday, November 11, 2013 12:45 PM, "anartaxius@..."  wrote:
 
   Does anyone here know the source of the quote "My indestructible Maya"? On 
the Internet I find just a small collection of websites, FFL principally, 
mentioning the phrase, but no precise source. Since Share quoted it, I assume 
that she is picking it out of her memory rather than from a source text. I 
recall the phrase, but my feeble aging brain, cannot recall where I read or 
otherwise heard it.
 

 Is this translated phrase from the Vedas (and which one? Rig, etc.), the 
Upanishads, or the Bhagavad-Gita? (in particular the MMY translation of the 
latter)
 

 Whether Maya is real or not, it is certainly present here on FFL.
 

 I have seen this product in refrigerators of meditators, "Vegenaise", a non 
animal derived product purporting to replace mayonnaise. Maybe itshould be 
called Mayannaise instead, except people would probably confuse it with the 
Mayan civilisation of Central America. But then, confusion is the whole purpose 
of Maya. Gotta love this universe for beating us up this way.
 
 

 
 



 
 
 
 





Re: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Transcendental Meditation Revolutionary Mission:

2013-11-11 Thread Share Long
Xeno, fyi, I have Hellman's REAL Mayonnaise in my frig, wouldn't use anything 
else for tuna fish salad! As for the quote, MUM Sanskrit professor Dr. Tom 
Egenes shared it with our class during the 91-92 school year when I was taking 
the MA in SCI. It's one of those phrases that stuck with me because it's so 
unexpected, paradoxical, koany, etc.

Some say that maya ruled by tamas guna is a covering, ruled by rajo guma is a 
veil. But maya ruled by sat guna, it actually said to be a ladder to ultimate 
reality. Go figure (-:




On Monday, November 11, 2013 12:45 PM, "anartax...@yahoo.com" 
 wrote:
 
  
Does anyone here know the source of the quote "My indestructible Maya"? On the 
Internet I find just a small collection of websites, FFL principally, 
mentioning the phrase, but no precise source. Since Share quoted it, I assume 
that she is picking it out of her memory rather than from a source text. I 
recall the phrase, but my feeble aging brain, cannot recall where I read or 
otherwise heard it.

Is this translated phrase from the Vedas (and which one? Rig, etc.), the 
Upanishads, or the Bhagavad-Gita? (in particular the MMY translation of the 
latter)

Whether Maya is real or not, it is certainly present here on FFL.

I have seen this product in refrigerators of meditators, "Vegenaise", a non 
animal derived product purporting to replace mayonnaise. Maybe itshould be 
called Mayannaise instead, except people would probably confuse it with the 
Mayan civilisation of Central America. But then, confusion is the whole purpose 
of Maya. Gotta love this universe for beating us up this way.


RE: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Transcendental Meditation Revolutionary Mission:

2013-11-11 Thread anartaxius
Does anyone here know the source of the quote "My indestructible Maya"? On the 
Internet I find just a small collection of websites, FFL principally, 
mentioning the phrase, but no precise source. Since Share quoted it, I assume 
that she is picking it out of her memory rather than from a source text. I 
recall the phrase, but my feeble aging brain, cannot recall where I read or 
otherwise heard it.
 

 Is this translated phrase from the Vedas (and which one? Rig, etc.), the 
Upanishads, or the Bhagavad-Gita? (in particular the MMY translation of the 
latter)
 

 Whether Maya is real or not, it is certainly present here on FFL.
 

 I have seen this product in refrigerators of meditators, "Vegenaise", a non 
animal derived product purporting to replace mayonnaise. Maybe itshould be 
called Mayannaise instead, except people would probably confuse it with the 
Mayan civilisation of Central America. But then, confusion is the whole purpose 
of Maya. Gotta love this universe for beating us up this way.


RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Transcendental Meditation Revolutionary Mission:

2013-11-11 Thread authfriend
Read what I wrote again, dimwit. HINT: Read all the words. When you see where 
you made your mistake, let us know, OK?
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 > Judy, from what I noted, Maharishi said that Brahman is maya. You wrote that 
 > Maharishi 
 > said that Brahman is not maya. Maybe it's simply a case of the teacher 
 > contradicting himself 
 > so that the students don't get trapped in intellectual understanding.
 

 On Monday, November 11, 2013 11:17 AM, "authfriend@..."  wrote:
 
   "OTOH"?? Read what I wrote again, Share.
 

 Share fumbled:

> OTOH, in the Veda it's written: Brahman says, "My indestructible maya." And 
 > Maharishi has explained that at the deepest level of every cell of our body, 
 > Purusha IS 
 > Prakriti.
 

 (snip)
 I wrote:
 > > Finally, according to Maharishi, Maya is "that which is not"--but the 
 > > illusion involved is 
 > > not that Maya is not real, but rather that it isn't Brahman.


 




















 
 
 
 





Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Transcendental Meditation Revolutionary Mission:

2013-11-11 Thread Share Long
Judy, from what I noted, Maharishi said that Brahman is maya. You wrote that 
Maharishi said that Brahman is not maya. Maybe it's simply a case of the 
teacher contradicting himself so that the students don't get trapped in 
intellectual understanding.





On Monday, November 11, 2013 11:17 AM, "authfri...@yahoo.com" 
 wrote:
 
  
"OTOH"?? Read what I wrote again, Share.

Share fumbled:

> OTOH, in the Veda it's written: Brahman says, "My indestructible maya." And 
> Maharishi has explained that at the deepest level of every cell of our body, 
> Purusha IS 
> Prakriti.


(snip)
I wrote:
> > Finally, according to Maharishi, Maya is "that which is not"--but the 
> > illusion involved is 

> > not that Maya is not real, but rather that it isn't Brahman.




RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Transcendental Meditation Revolutionary Mission:

2013-11-11 Thread authfriend
"OTOH"?? Read what I wrote again, Share.
 

 Share fumbled:

> OTOH, in the Veda it's written: Brahman says, "My indestructible maya." And 
 > Maharishi has explained that at the deepest level of every cell of our body, 
 > Purusha IS 
 > Prakriti.
 

 (snip)
 I wrote:
 > > Finally, according to Maharishi, Maya is "that which is not"--but the 
 > > illusion involved is 
 > > not that Maya is not real, but rather that it isn't Brahman.