Re: [FairfieldLife] For Vaj Re: Pitta-aggravating mantras
on 6/25/05 10:39 AM, Ingegerd at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I do not know how many still is practising TM - but many continues > because they feel good about it - regardless of MMY and the TMO.The > common TM-practitionar do not care much about MMY - they have never > met him, only seen him on tapes during the Initiation Course. They > only care about their good experiences. Maharishi himself said this. A reporter asked him how many followers he had and he said, "None. Everyone follows his own experience." To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] For Vaj Re: Pitta-aggravating mantras
Rick Archer wrote: >on 6/24/05 10:43 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>>on 6/24/05 2:38 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> >>> >I've never met SSRS. I'm sure Amma is, so I'm not implying, I'm > > >>being >> >> >explicit. > > What about MMY? >>>I think he is, but some of his behavior stretches my concept of what >>>enlightenment is (which I derived from him). >>> >>> >>None of the others you mentioned have built such a large international >>organization to teach meditation from scratch in a time where such a >>thing was unheard of. >> >> > >Amma and SSRS are probably the biggest spiritual movements in India right >now. They both do much more charitable work than the TMO ever did (any >charitable work would be more). They're each going about it in their own >way. But regardless of that, having a big organization has no correlation >with whether or not one is enlightened. Behaving ethically and >compassionately may be more correlated, but who knows? > > > And from what I've observed a movement sprung up around Ammachi she didn't build it herself as Maharishi did. These organizations are good for programs for the masses but not for one-on-one instruction. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] For Vaj Re: Pitta-aggravating mantras
On Jun 25, 2005, at 10:47 AM, sparaig wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> On Jun 25, 2005, at 1:39 AM, sparaig wrote: >> >>> My point is simply that judging someone else in contrast to MMY needs >>> to take into account where MMY has been. >> >> If you look at it objectively M. is the CEO of a meditation and >> meditation goods and service organization. The vast majority who >> learned have left or changed meditation methods long ago. > > Impossible to say with certainty how many still practice. True. My own anecdotal observation would be a guesstimate of over 50% but possibly over even 80%. I feel M.'s own characterization of himself not as the guru, but as a doorkeeper to the tradition is an honest and poignant one--because truly even if many did not remain with TM, he opened an important door for a LOT of people. In that sense M. is a doorkeeper and a world-catalyst. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] For Vaj Re: Pitta-aggravating mantras
On Jun 25, 2005, at 10:46 AM, sparaig wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> On Jun 25, 2005, at 1:38 AM, sparaig wrote: >> >>> SSRS isn't ever going to be interviewed on national TV in the USA >>> based on his reputation from 30 years previously, now is he? >> >> He got invited to the White House, how many teachers can claim that? > > So did a bunch of other folks over the years. If you ask who SSRS is, > how many will say > "that sitar guy?" Well I think that was always a problem, thus the dual sri's. > Seriously, are you saying that SSRS is comparable to MMY? His website > mentions his MMY > associations before he set out to form his own organization. Many > claim that his > meditation technique is taken from TM. I think they are very similar, but in many ways (IMO) SSRS is more compassionate and authentic. I look at both of them as just 'other people on the path' not necessarily as enlightened--and indeed neither has claimed such. Since TM is not unique truly, in the ultimate sense it's manasika-japa with a really nice checking routine; I know that many use, in essence, the same method with similar or same results. IMO the major fault of TM is that it does not fully address the obstacles individual seekers may encounter. It also does not address those who may need to move beyond mantra as a support or cannot work well with mantra period after a certain point. It's the individual that's important and that to the degree they can simply observe and "be honest" with their own condition (body, energy and mind-wise). To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] For Vaj Re: Pitta-aggravating mantras
on 6/25/05 8:09 AM, Rory Goff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> My point is simply that judging someone else in contrast to MMY > needs >> to take into account where MMY has been. > > Without at all intending to detract from your most commendable > devotion to MMY, I would merely suggest that to judge anyone in > contrast to anyone else is essentially indulging in delusion. I've heard M say that too - never to compare oneself with others (i.e., envy them). To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] For Vaj Re: Pitta-aggravating mantras
on 6/25/05 12:39 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> True. MMY did a very good job popularizing TM. >> > > My point is simply that judging someone else in contrast to MMY needs to take > into account where MMY has been. > Sure. Never judge a man till you've walked a mile in his moccasins. None of us could have accomplished what he did. But great accomplishments do not absolve a man from being held accountable for his mistakes. People are still talking about Nixon's mistakes AND accomplishments. "The evil that men do lives after them, The good is oft interred with their bones..." - Julius Caesar - Act 3, Scene 2, To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] For Vaj Re: Pitta-aggravating mantras
on 6/25/05 12:38 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > They both do much more charitable work than the TMO ever did (any >> charitable work would be more). They're each going about it in > their own >> way. But regardless of that, having a big organization has no > correlation >> with whether or not one is enlightened. Behaving ethically and >> compassionately may be more correlated, but who knows? > > That wasn't what I asked. You say that MMY's behavior is difficult to > understand compared to others you mentioned, but the others you > mentioned are not in the same space, and can't be judged on their > behavior when presented with the same issues, because they don't > interact with the world on that level. > > SSRS isn't ever going to be interviewed on national TV in the USA > based on his reputation from 30 years previously, now is he? He is still younger than MMY was when he became famous. No telling what he'll do. Amma is becoming more and more famous. 1/4 million people (or some such number) from all over the world attended her 50th birthday celebration a couple of years ago. Billy Graham is still getting interviewed on Larry King. Is that any indication of his degree of enlightenment? No one outside India ever heard of Guru Dev. Was that any indication of his? What does Maharishi's behavior have to do with his fame (largely attributable to the Beatles), and with his level of consciousness? So he made a big splash in the late 60's through mid 70's and introduced us and many others to meditation. We're all grateful for that. The world was ripe for such a thing and if it hadn't been him it would have been another, but obviously it was his role. I guess the point we're debating is "the others you > mentioned are not in the same space, and can't be judged on their > behavior when presented with the same issues, because they don't > interact with the world on that level." But I don't understand the point you're trying to make. Are you saying that has fame excuses him from any mistakes he may have made? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] For Vaj Re: Pitta-aggravating mantras
--- Rory Goff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > My point is simply that judging someone else in > contrast to MMY > needs > > to take into account where MMY has been. > > Without at all intending to detract from your most > commendable > devotion to MMY, I would merely suggest that to > judge anyone in > contrast to anyone else is essentially indulging in > delusion. Where it > counts, you and MMY and FF's pig-dung are all > precisely the same -- > infinite divinity focussing perfectly here now. > Resisting the > perfection here now merely dilutes our experience of > divinity; > acknowledging (surrendering) into the perfection of > whatever is > playing through us here now -- love, anger, pain, > whatever -- frees us > to be the Whole: what we have always been, > regardless of external > appearance :-) Who you calling pig-dung, boy! > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] For Vaj Re: Pitta-aggravating mantras
--- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick > Archer > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > on 6/24/05 2:38 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> I've never met SSRS. I'm sure Amma is, so > I'm > > > not implying, I'm > > > being > > > > >> explicit. > > > > > > > > > > What about MMY? > > > > > > > > I think he is, but some of his behavior > stretches > > > my concept of what > > > > enlightenment is (which I derived from him). > > > > > > None of the others you mentioned have built such > a > > > large international > > > organization to teach meditation from scratch in > a > > > time where such a > > > thing was unheard of. > > > > True. MMY did a very good job popularizing TM. > > > > My point is simply that judging someone else in > contrast to MMY needs > to take into account where MMY has been. I'm not quite following the point you're trying to make. > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] For Vaj Re: Pitta-aggravating mantras
On Jun 25, 2005, at 1:39 AM, sparaig wrote: > My point is simply that judging someone else in contrast to MMY needs > to take into account where MMY has been. If you look at it objectively M. is the CEO of a meditation and meditation goods and service organization. The vast majority who learned have left or changed meditation methods long ago. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] For Vaj Re: Pitta-aggravating mantras
On Jun 25, 2005, at 1:38 AM, sparaig wrote: > SSRS isn't ever going to be interviewed on national TV in the USA > based on his reputation from 30 years previously, now is he? He got invited to the White House, how many teachers can claim that? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] For Vaj Re: Pitta-aggravating mantras
--- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 6/24/05 2:38 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> > > >> I've never met SSRS. I'm sure Amma is, so I'm > not implying, I'm > being > > >> explicit. > > > > > > What about MMY? > > > > I think he is, but some of his behavior stretches > my concept of what > > enlightenment is (which I derived from him). > > None of the others you mentioned have built such a > large international > organization to teach meditation from scratch in a > time where such a > thing was unheard of. True. MMY did a very good job popularizing TM. > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] For Vaj Re: Pitta-aggravating mantras
on 6/24/05 10:43 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> on 6/24/05 2:38 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've never met SSRS. I'm sure Amma is, so I'm not implying, I'm > being explicit. >>> >>> What about MMY? >> >> I think he is, but some of his behavior stretches my concept of what >> enlightenment is (which I derived from him). > > None of the others you mentioned have built such a large international > organization to teach meditation from scratch in a time where such a > thing was unheard of. Amma and SSRS are probably the biggest spiritual movements in India right now. They both do much more charitable work than the TMO ever did (any charitable work would be more). They're each going about it in their own way. But regardless of that, having a big organization has no correlation with whether or not one is enlightened. Behaving ethically and compassionately may be more correlated, but who knows? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] For Vaj Re: Pitta-aggravating mantras
on 6/24/05 2:38 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> I've never met SSRS. I'm sure Amma is, so I'm not implying, I'm being >> explicit. > > What about MMY? I think he is, but some of his behavior stretches my concept of what enlightenment is (which I derived from him). To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] For Vaj Re: Pitta-aggravating mantras
on 6/24/05 11:35 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> on 6/24/05 10:57 AM, lupidus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sure, go ahead, why trust Kirk. Just get another mantra chosen for >>> you at random or based on your age or some other nonsense. >>> >>> Exactly; why ever rely on a mantra given to you by an enlightened >>> Master when it (the process of growth, not the mantra itself) >>> temporalily causes unstressing and pain. >>> >>> The alternatives seems to be endless; SSRS, Ammachi, >> >> You're implying that they aren't enlightened masters? > > Are you implying that they are? I've never met SSRS. I'm sure Amma is, so I'm not implying, I'm being explicit. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] For Vaj Re: Pitta-aggravating mantras
on 6/24/05 11:22 AM, inthislifetime300 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Rick you are now using a mantra you received from Ammaare you > happy with it? How does it compare/contrast with your TM mantra? I don't claim to be able to discern the subtle influences of mantras, and of course each individual would have his own reaction/experience/interpretation, but when I switched, I noticed an improvement. These days (a few years later) I transcend clearly in most meditations and feel that I'm making wonderful progress on the spiritual front, although mantra meditation isn't the only influence. I'm more successful than ever business-wise (Never been a business hotshot but I'm doing OK - plenty of clients), no one has died, etc. (allusion to OM in the mantra). To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] For Vaj Re: Pitta-aggravating mantras
>> Sure, go ahead, why trust Kirk. Just get another mantra chosen for> you at random or based on your age or some other nonsense. ---I wouldn't give you a mantra anyway, because you would not trust it. But my point is that I could at least tell you what the predominant element of your mantra is and I could tell you for the purposes of mantrashastra what your mantra element should be. It's quite possible you were given say an earth mantra and your nature is fire. Every time you used the mantra it would make you very irate as if scoops of dirt were covering your flame. Most people who are giving out mantras have no clue whatsoever that their mantra list even has elements let alone how one should really choose a mantra. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] For Vaj Re: Pitta-aggravating mantras
on 6/24/05 11:33 AM, lupidus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> on 6/24/05 10:57 AM, lupidus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: Sure, go ahead, why trust Kirk. Just get another mantra chosen for >>> you at random or based on your age or some other nonsense. >>> >>> Exactly; why ever rely on a mantra given to you by an enlightened >>> Master when it (the process of growth, not the mantra itself) >>> temporalily causes unstressing and pain. >>> >>> The alternatives seems to be endless; SSRS, Ammachi, >> >> You're implying that they aren't enlightened masters? > > No. I imply that there (not constricted to these two examples) are well- > meaning and very good Yogis of high standards, probably enlightened, > and there are Masters. And you are qualified to discriminate between them? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] For Vaj Re: Pitta-aggravating mantras
on 6/24/05 10:57 AM, lupidus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Sure, go ahead, why trust Kirk. Just get another mantra chosen for > you at random or based on your age or some other nonsense. > > Exactly; why ever rely on a mantra given to you by an enlightened > Master when it (the process of growth, not the mantra itself) > temporalily causes unstressing and pain. > > The alternatives seems to be endless; SSRS, Ammachi, You're implying that they aren't enlightened masters? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] For Vaj Re: Pitta-aggravating mantras
on 6/24/05 9:58 AM, inthislifetime300 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I will see if I can see her. She imparts mantras personally on Devi Bhava, which is the last night of her tour in each city. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
