Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'
In a message dated 7/14/06 2:46:11 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nothing was ever done about the dynamite.> > > > > > > So my guess is that he knew very well about the dynamite, but put > on a show> > > to give the impression that he hadn¹t known, and that others were> > > responsible.> > >> > > > What would YOU have done?> > I would have used the principle of 'highest first', and found out who > was ultimately in charge of the blasting; and what options would be > open to us; if they could postpone the blasting or not;> And if they told me there was no way to stop it since they were on a > schedule;> Then I would have been honest with the course participants and > Maharishi, and made a group decision, based on assets, and other > varibles, to there would be a group effort and responsiblity taken.> And not dependent on Maharishi, taking care of everything, or doing > nothing to resolve the problem..> >>Perhaps all that had been tried behind the scenes with no avail. Then what? As I speculated, perhaps the appearance of trying to take care of things was deemed more important than honesty about not being able to take care of things. Actually, plenty was done. Every time somebody brought up the explosions, M would say, " noise is not a barrier to meditation" He went through the whole checking notes procedures regarding noise disturbing meditation. While the blasts were loud, they never were so frequent, in most places, that one could not settle into the transcendent. As I said by the middle of the second TTC in either late 71 or early 72 M just moved everybody to Fiuggi Italy. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?' (Freudian Slip?)
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?' (Freudian Slip?) on 7/13/06 6:42 PM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , "Robert Gimbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So, maybe somehow Bevan with his size, and his accent gives > Maharishi, the feeling somehow, on some level, that now he > rules the Brits, and the symbol of the ruling is in his > perfect speaking large form, long winded Bevan, the Prime > Minister(English term) of Maharishi Land... An interesting theory, one that I have not heard before. Worth pondering. Just look at the building designs he approves. He calls them Vedic, but they're all classic British Raj. But of course, Bevan’s not a Brit. He’s Australian. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'
In a message dated 7/13/06 10:50:43 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But to your point, I have personally seen Maharishilie his socks off to someone (Charlie Lutes) for the very reason you mention, to give the impressionthat someone else had done what he himself had done(kept Charlie waiting in a hotel hallway for a longtime, which pissed Charlie off so much that he threw a tantrum and stormed out of the hotel). LOL, didn't Charlie say something to M like "Maharishi, an hour and a half? I wouldn't wait an hour and a half for Jesus Christ!" __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'
In a message dated 7/13/06 11:14:15 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nothing was ever done about the dynamite.>Of course, what COULD be done about the dynamite? On my course people complained about the dynamite and M arranged to open some other hotels about an hour away. I made the move and the next morning woke up to dynamite exploding outside of my window! I moved back two days later. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Buddha shakyamuni Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?' on 7/13/06 10:53 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > So my guess is that he knew very well about the dynamite, but put on a show > to give the impression that he hadn’t known, and that others were > responsible. > What would YOU have done? I would have told them that I knew about the dynamite (if I did) but that we had no control over the situation, so just bear with it. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?' on 7/13/06 10:27 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But to your point, I have personally seen Maharishi lie his socks off to someone (Charlie Lutes) for the very reason you mention, to give the impression that someone else had done what he himself had done (kept Charlie waiting in a hotel hallway for a long time, which pissed Charlie off so much that he threw a tantrum and stormed out of the hotel). Partly, it’s an Indian cultural thing. Indians hate to say no. So they say yes even when they mean no. MMY often did this. He would say yes to someone then a few minutes later tell his secretary to tell the person no. People interpreted this as his cosmic way of helping their evolution. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?' on 7/13/06 10:51 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Nothing was ever done about the dynamite. > Of course, what COULD be done about the dynamite? If someone really cared, they could have thrown themselves on top of it just as it was exploding and sacrificed themselves for the other course participants. But NO __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Buddha shakyamuni Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'
In a message dated 7/13/06 9:58:11 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So my guess is that he knew very well about the dynamite, but put on a show to give the impression that he hadn’t known, and that others were responsible. Yes, he couldn't miss it. It was happening all over the place. Probably outside his own hotel as well. Majorca was a tourist resort for fun in the sun. M got great deals to rent these hotels during the off season when they would have sat virtually empty. The TMO provided jobs, and maintenance for the Hotels and Majorcans during a time that would have been very lean. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Buddha shakyamuni Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'
In a message dated 7/13/06 9:49:36 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED].. wrote:>> > In a message dated 7/12/06 9:59:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED].. writes:> > Anyway, last week, Bevan asked the question of Maharishi,> About the meaning of placing one of the 'Peace Palace's in the 'middle' of a > nation;> He failed to tell Maharishi, in his question to His Holiness:> That the stupid publicity they got on the Kansas of Oz deal;> Is why Mahesh was pissed in the first place.> Because, and get this Bevan: Maharishi wants good publicity:> Not bad press, and when people angle their way up the scale of power;> And hide the truth from the Master, that is blasphemy in my book.> My idea, is to auction of the "Prime Ministership" on EBAY;> And sell to the highest bidder;> Besides Maharishi's eyes will light up;> At the thought of dumping 'ol Bev;> And making a fortune doing it...> > R.G. Madison,WI.> > > > Robert, M doesn't like to hear negative news. Maybe that is why Bevan has > been around M so long, maybe he learned that quickly. That would not be his > fault, it would be M's .>Dixon,I concur with that, Bevan always seemed to me as a 'yes man' kind of guy, very loyal to Mahesh, loyal to his self intrest as well, i'm sure. :)despite my criticism of him, i think he added stability to the movement in it's first phase, but maybe he should go now and let some real creative thinking to happen. one has to wonder. Perhaps he should, but M wouldn't want him to leave because he does just want M tells him to do. If it's not broken, don't fix it, at least from M's point of view any way. Besides, Bevan probably knows way too much about the inner workings of the TMO to take a chance on him pissing off. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Buddha shakyamuni Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'
In a message dated 7/13/06 9:23:27 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: After being told the story for the first time, he gavethe course leaders a public reaming for not telling himwhat was happening. Afterwards, I happened to be stand-ing in the hallway as he was walking out of the hotel,and heard him giving the aides who had traveled therewith him a similar reaming, this time for *allowing*someone to stand up in one of his talks and report bad news like that. I think this kind of thing is much more common than most people have ever thought. M has always had a public image that is far different from what he actually practices in private. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Buddha shakyamuni Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?'
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Are Bevan's Days Numbered?' on 7/13/06 8:34 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So after a few weeks Maharishi showed up, and someone from the course stood up and asked, "Maharishi, do you know when something might be done about the dynamiting?" Maharishi said, "What dynamite?" After being told the story for the first time, he gave the course leaders a public reaming for not telling him what was happening. Afterwards, I happened to be stand- ing in the hallway as he was walking out of the hotel, and heard him giving the aides who had traveled there with him a similar reaming, this time for *allowing* someone to stand up in one of his talks and report bad news like that. Nothing was ever done about the dynamite. So my guess is that he knew very well about the dynamite, but put on a show to give the impression that he hadn’t known, and that others were responsible. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
