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A total of thirty seven bodies were found. Although some were found in the same parts of the city, their distribution suggested that many came from different time periods [source needed]. Mohenjo-daro had three major periods: Early, Intermediate and Late. Some of the bodies were clearly Early period and some clearly Late. The two periods are a thousand or more years apart. Another key point is that the bodies actually showed clear signs of burial. The most infamous group of bodies, as highlighted from the quote above, that were found laying in the middle of the street was actually caused by the fact that the bodies were buried during the later period when the existing buildings had been built over earlier periods. The bodies were buried above a road from a period hundreds of years earlier. Proponents of the bomb explosion often like to point to the preservation of the bodies, particularly the lack of signs of scavengers as proof that something like a background radiation had to keep animals away. Several important points about this, the first is this is one of the driest and hottest spots on the planet, perfect weather for preservation. The scavenger problem is only a problem for the pseudohistorians who seem unaware that the bodies were actually buried. Small groups of bodies dating from multiple periods a thousand years apart, with clear signs of burial, and some stratum coincidences, clearly is weak evidence for an atomic explosion. The evidence is also nothing like what is presented on proponent websites or television. An interesting fact though is that this is not the first time that the Mohenjo-daro bodies were the subject of controversy. The original excavators tried to use them as proof that the indo valley civilization was killed by invading hordes of Aryans. Much of the evidence presented showing that the bodies were not due to a single large scale event was elucidated 50 years ago to disprove the invading horde hypothesis. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 5:37 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast It sounds like the age of enlightenment wasn't all it's been cracked up to be. I hope that we do better now we have revived all the ancient wisdom of gaining invincibility. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast
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we all know it couldn't have been a nuclear device - it had to be one of Indra's lightning bolts From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 5:37 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast It sounds like the age of enlightenment wasn't all it's been cracked up to be. I hope that we do better now we have revived all the ancient wisdom of gaining invincibility. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast
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On 07/04/2014 07:20 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I have always been fascinated by the idea that there were nuclear weapons of some type back in ancient times. There weren't any. This was in the Bronze age, the high water mark of technology was poor quality swords and ploughs made from deer shoulder blades. You won't be splitting any atoms with that stuff. Jeez, they'd only just invented glazed pots when the Indus valley civilisation collapsed! Or so we think. I don't know why humanity thinks that current civilization is the most advanced that has ever existed on this planet. If so it is also the most narcissistic. :-D
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On 7/4/2014 4:37 AM, salyavin808 wrote: It sounds like the age of enlightenment wasn't all it's been cracked up to be. I hope that we do better now we have revived all the ancient wisdom of gaining invincibility. You are not even making any sense. It was probably a nuclear comet. According to what I've read, a natural nuclear fission reactor is a uranium deposit where analysis of isotope ratios has shown that self-sustaining nuclear chain reactions have occurred. Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast http://www.indiadivine.org/news/science-and-nature/8000-year-old-indian-city-irradiated-by-atomic-r758
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and if there were civs that were more advanced than those of today, and they left no record of sign and were superseded by much lesser civs, then that advanced civ must not have been worth much to begin with. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast On 07/04/2014 07:20 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I have always been fascinated by the idea that there were nuclear weapons of some type back in ancient times. There weren't any. This was in the Bronze age, the high water mark of technology was poor quality swords and ploughs made from deer shoulder blades. You won't be splitting any atoms with that stuff. Jeez, they'd only just invented glazed pots when the Indus valley civilisation collapsed! Or so we think. I don't know why humanity thinks that current civilization is the most advanced that has ever existed on this planet. If so it is also the most narcissistic. :-D
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On 7/4/2014 5:40 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: The original excavators tried to use them as proof that the indo valley civilization was killed by invading hordes of Aryans. Aryans landed from mars - everyone knows that. The question is, did the Aryans come into India or did the Aryans come out of India?
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On 7/4/2014 6:54 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I have always been fascinated by the idea that there were nuclear weapons of some type back in ancient times. It was probably a nuclear comet. Nuclear weapons or reactors weren't invented until 1945. According to what I've read, the location of Oklo is the only known location for this in the world and consists of 16 sites at which self-sustaining nuclear fission reactions took place approximately 2 billion years ago, and ran for a few hundred thousand years, averaging 100 kW of power output during that time. Go figure.
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On 7/4/2014 5:50 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: we all know it couldn't have been a nuclear device - it had to be one of Indra's lightning bolts The conditions under which a natural nuclear reactor could exist had been predicted in 1956 by Paul Kuroda. The conditions found were very similar to what was predicted. Wake up and smell the coffee! http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1288730/pg1
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I have always been fascinated by the idea that there were nuclear weapons of some type back in ancient times. On 7/4/2014 9:20 AM, salyavin808 wrote: There weren't any. This was in the Bronze age, the high water mark of technology was poor quality swords and ploughs made from deer shoulder blades. You won't be splitting any atoms with that stuff. Jeez, they'd only just invented glazed pots when the Indus valley civilisation collapsed! Apparently the USA sent up a satelite about 5 years ago that measures radio-activity, and it found that there is evidence of thousands of atomic blasts throughout planet earth, dating back to possibly hundreds of thousands of years, if not millions of years ago.
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I've heard that Atlantis sunk because they were doing all sorts of science against nature, including but not limited to nuclear weapons. On Friday, July 4, 2014 12:40 PM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I have always been fascinated by the idea that there were nuclear weapons of some type back in ancient times. On 7/4/2014 9:20 AM, salyavin808 wrote: There weren't any. This was in the Bronze age, the high water mark of technology was poor quality swords and ploughs made from deer shoulder blades. You won't be splitting any atoms with that stuff. Jeez, they'd only just invented glazed pots when the Indus valley civilisation collapsed! Apparently the USA sent up a satelite about 5 years ago that measures radio-activity, and it found that there is evidence of thousands of atomic blasts throughout planet earth, dating back to possibly hundreds of thousands of years, if not millions of years ago.
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On 07/04/2014 07:20 AM, salyavin808 wrote: There weren't any. This was in the Bronze age, the high water mark of technology was poor quality swords and ploughs made from deer shoulder blades. You won't be splitting any atoms with that stuff. Jeez, they'd only just invented glazed pots when the Indus valley civilisation collapsed! On 7/4/2014 10:57 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: Or so we think. I don't know why humanity thinks that current civilization is the most advanced that has ever existed on this planet. If so it is also the most narcissistic. :-D This type of messages have been around for sometime and it seems the scientists are not taking these seriously any more as they could have probably carried out the radioanalytical studies and found the pattern of the available radioisotopes in those sites to be different from what is available in the sites where nuclear explosions have been actually carried out. - Sunil KB https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ancient_indian_astrology/conversations/messages/72072
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Well Michael, science has determined that anything very technological would have disappeared if it was over 5000 year old. Put that in your chillum and smoke it. :-D On 07/04/2014 10:29 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: and if there were civs that were more advanced than those of today, and they left no record of sign and were superseded by much lesser civs, then that advanced civ must not have been worth much to begin with. *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, July 4, 2014 11:57 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast On 07/04/2014 07:20 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... wrote : I have always been fascinated by the idea that there were nuclear weapons of some type back in ancient times. There weren't any. This was in the Bronze age, the high water mark of technology was poor quality swords and ploughs made from deer shoulder blades. You won't be splitting any atoms with that stuff. Jeez, they'd only just invented glazed pots when the Indus valley civilisation collapsed! Or so we think. I don't know why humanity thinks that current civilization is the most advanced that has ever existed on this planet. If so it is also the most narcissistic. :-D
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Well Michael, science has determined that anything very technological would have disappeared if it was over 5000 year old. Put that in your chillum and smoke it. :-D So how come we have plenty of evidence that Bronze age man built swords and simple homes and pottery but not that he had uranium processing centrifuges? The most sophisticated things that have turned up from the dawn of man's history have been the batteries (powered by vinegar) that the Egyptians used to electroplate gold. Amazingly clever for the age but a good few steps away from splitting the atom. I guess then we are talking about a more ancient civilisation that disappeared without trace, but where were they? How come we have an unbroken archaeological history from hunter gatherers, painting caves and then the Iron age and beyond. To find such a civilisation would be fabulous but their remains would be huge, they would need to find ancient uranium mines just for starters. I think if they exist we would have had glimpses from somewhere. I live in hope for a major rewrite, the British Museum exhibition about it would be fabulous... On 07/04/2014 10:29 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: and if there were civs that were more advanced than those of today, and they left no record of sign and were superseded by much lesser civs, then that advanced civ must not have been worth much to begin with. From: Bhairitu noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast On 07/04/2014 07:20 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... wrote : I have always been fascinated by the idea that there were nuclear weapons of some type back in ancient times. There weren't any. This was in the Bronze age, the high water mark of technology was poor quality swords and ploughs made from deer shoulder blades. You won't be splitting any atoms with that stuff. Jeez, they'd only just invented glazed pots when the Indus valley civilisation collapsed! Or so we think. I don't know why humanity thinks that current civilization is the most advanced that has ever existed on this planet. If so it is also the most narcissistic. :-D
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what science are you referring to ? From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 1:51 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast Well Michael, science has determined that anything very technological would have disappeared if it was over 5000 year old. Put that in your chillum and smoke it. :-D On 07/04/2014 10:29 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: and if there were civs that were more advanced than those of today, and they left no record of sign and were superseded by much lesser civs, then that advanced civ must not have been worth much to begin with. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast On 07/04/2014 07:20 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I have always been fascinated by the idea that there were nuclear weapons of some type back in ancient times. There weren't any. This was in the Bronze age, the high water mark of technology was poor quality swords and ploughs made from deer shoulder blades. You won't be splitting any atoms with that stuff. Jeez, they'd only just invented glazed pots when the Indus valley civilisation collapsed! Or so we think. I don't know why humanity thinks that current civilization is the most advanced that has ever existed on this planet. If so it is also the most narcissistic. :-D
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Yeah, I would like to know what science he is referring to - perhaps Eric Von Daniken type science? Or maybe Scientology type science? Or TM type science? its all cut from the same cloth. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Well Michael, science has determined that anything very technological would have disappeared if it was over 5000 year old. Put that in your chillum and smoke it. :-D So how come we have plenty of evidence that Bronze age man built swords and simple homes and pottery but not that he had uranium processing centrifuges? The most sophisticated things that have turned up from the dawn of man's history have been the batteries (powered by vinegar) that the Egyptians used to electroplate gold. Amazingly clever for the age but a good few steps away from splitting the atom. I guess then we are talking about a more ancient civilisation that disappeared without trace, but where were they? How come we have an unbroken archaeological history from hunter gatherers, painting caves and then the Iron age and beyond. To find such a civilisation would be fabulous but their remains would be huge, they would need to find ancient uranium mines just for starters. I think if they exist we would have had glimpses from somewhere. I live in hope for a major rewrite, the British Museum exhibition about it would be fabulous... On 07/04/2014 10:29 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: and if there were civs that were more advanced than those of today, and they left no record of sign and were superseded by much lesser civs, then that advanced civ must not have been worth much to begin with. From: Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast On 07/04/2014 07:20 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I have always been fascinated by the idea that there were nuclear weapons of some type back in ancient times. There weren't any. This was in the Bronze age, the high water mark of technology was poor quality swords and ploughs made from deer shoulder blades. You won't be splitting any atoms with that stuff. Jeez, they'd only just invented glazed pots when the Indus valley civilisation collapsed! Or so we think. I don't know why humanity thinks that current civilization is the most advanced that has ever existed on this planet. If so it is also the most narcissistic. :-D
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Contemporary mainstream science. There was a link to the article about this posted on FFL a few years ago by Judy, I think. Found the elephant's hoof yet? :-D On 07/04/2014 11:19 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Yeah, I would like to know what science he is referring to - perhaps Eric Von Daniken type science? Or maybe Scientology type science? Or TM type science? its all cut from the same cloth. *From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, July 4, 2014 2:05 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Well Michael, science has determined that anything very technological would have disappeared if it was over 5000 year old. Put that in your chillum and smoke it. :-D So how come we have plenty of evidence that Bronze age man built swords and simple homes and pottery but not that he had uranium processing centrifuges? The most sophisticated things that have turned up from the dawn of man's history have been the batteries (powered by vinegar) that the Egyptians used to electroplate gold. Amazingly clever for the age but a good few steps away from splitting the atom. I guess then we are talking about a more ancient civilisation that disappeared without trace, but where were they? How come we have an unbroken archaeological history from hunter gatherers, painting caves and then the Iron age and beyond. To find such a civilisation would be fabulous but their remains would be huge, they would need to find ancient uranium mines just for starters. I think if they exist we would have had glimpses from somewhere. I live in hope for a major rewrite, the British Museum exhibition about it would be fabulous... On 07/04/2014 10:29 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: and if there were civs that were more advanced than those of today, and they left no record of sign and were superseded by much lesser civs, then that advanced civ must not have been worth much to begin with. *From:* Bhairitu noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, July 4, 2014 11:57 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast On 07/04/2014 07:20 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... wrote : I have always been fascinated by the idea that there were nuclear weapons of some type back in ancient times. There weren't any. This was in the Bronze age, the high water mark of technology was poor quality swords and ploughs made from deer shoulder blades. You won't be splitting any atoms with that stuff. Jeez, they'd only just invented glazed pots when the Indus valley civilisation collapsed! Or so we think. I don't know why humanity thinks that current civilization is the most advanced that has ever existed on this planet. If so it is also the most narcissistic. :-D
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you are nuts if you believe that - even the idea that Egyptians used batteries for electroplating thousands of years ago is not accepted by any mainstream scientists, just a few fringe nuts. As Sal said, how can we have artifacts from thousands of years ago Bronze age, etc but none from some advanced civ? Answer: Such civs didn't exist but nuts who want to believe it ever so badly make up bullshit excuses so they have something to hang their hats on. I mean, anyone who believes in Atlantis being an advanced civ that used nuclear energy and so forth is raving. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast Contemporary mainstream science. There was a link to the article about this posted on FFL a few years ago by Judy, I think. Found the elephant's hoof yet? :-D On 07/04/2014 11:19 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Yeah, I would like to know what science he is referring to - perhaps Eric Von Daniken type science? Or maybe Scientology type science? Or TM type science? its all cut from the same cloth. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Well Michael, science has determined that anything very technological would have disappeared if it was over 5000 year old. Put that in your chillum and smoke it. :-D So how come we have plenty of evidence that Bronze age man built swords and simple homes and pottery but not that he had uranium processing centrifuges? The most sophisticated things that have turned up from the dawn of man's history have been the batteries (powered by vinegar) that the Egyptians used to electroplate gold. Amazingly clever for the age but a good few steps away from splitting the atom. I guess then we are talking about a more ancient civilisation that disappeared without trace, but where were they? How come we have an unbroken archaeological history from hunter gatherers, painting caves and then the Iron age and beyond. To find such a civilisation would be fabulous but their remains would be huge, they would need to find ancient uranium mines just for starters. I think if they exist we would have had glimpses from somewhere. I live in hope for a major rewrite, the British Museum exhibition about it would be fabulous... On 07/04/2014 10:29 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: and if there were civs that were more advanced than those of today, and they left no record of sign and were superseded by much lesser civs, then that advanced civ must not have been worth much to begin with. From: Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast On 07/04/2014 07:20 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I have always been fascinated by the idea that there were nuclear weapons of some type back in ancient times. There weren't any. This was in the Bronze age, the high water mark of technology was poor quality swords and ploughs made from deer shoulder blades. You won't be splitting any atoms with that stuff. Jeez, they'd only just invented glazed pots when the Indus valley civilisation collapsed! Or so we think. I don't know why humanity thinks that current civilization is the most advanced that has ever existed on this planet. If so it is also the most narcissistic. :-D
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Yeah, I would like to know what science he is referring to - perhaps Eric Von Daniken type science? Or maybe Scientology type science? Or TM type science? its all cut from the same cloth. I guess it would depend if it gets buried or not. And there's always exceptions, like the pyramids at Giza, they are the world's first large buildings and they would probably outlast anything we've built if our civilisation ended tomorrow. But if things get buried they will last. Take the fabulous remains discovered in Turkey at Göbekli Tepe http://www.gobeklitepe.info/ http://www.gobeklitepe.info/ Göbekli Tepe http://www.gobeklitepe.info/ Welcome to the presentation of the The World’s First Temple, Gobeklitepe … a pre-historic site, about 15 km away from the city of Sanliu... View on www.gobeklitepe.info http://www.gobeklitepe.info/ Preview by Yahoo against the usual run of things they were actually buried by the makers (we assume) and are pristine. If they had been left to the elements they would have disappeared by now as they are 12,000 years old! Because of the age there are all sorts of fantasies about them being the Garden of Eden - loads of it on the net - but we will probably never know who built it or why. But why a civilisation that could make nuclear weapons would disappear completely is beyond me, it would have to have been huge. You don't get the sort of technology required from spending most of the day farming, you need a proper scientific caste with money to burn, and all the technology involved would have to be painstakingly invented. It takes time and makes a mess, it took most of the population of Egypt working together hundreds of years just to make the pyramids. The idea of a nuclear early human culture is just ridiculous, we were too busy hunting rhino's to worry about much else in the sort of time they would have needed to be working out how atoms work. I can't believe I'm actually spending time thinking about it, I'm going out for a drink! From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Well Michael, science has determined that anything very technological would have disappeared if it was over 5000 year old. Put that in your chillum and smoke it. :-D So how come we have plenty of evidence that Bronze age man built swords and simple homes and pottery but not that he had uranium processing centrifuges? The most sophisticated things that have turned up from the dawn of man's history have been the batteries (powered by vinegar) that the Egyptians used to electroplate gold. Amazingly clever for the age but a good few steps away from splitting the atom. I guess then we are talking about a more ancient civilisation that disappeared without trace, but where were they? How come we have an unbroken archaeological history from hunter gatherers, painting caves and then the Iron age and beyond. To find such a civilisation would be fabulous but their remains would be huge, they would need to find ancient uranium mines just for starters. I think if they exist we would have had glimpses from somewhere. I live in hope for a major rewrite, the British Museum exhibition about it would be fabulous... On 07/04/2014 10:29 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: and if there were civs that were more advanced than those of today, and they left no record of sign and were superseded by much lesser civs, then that advanced civ must not have been worth much to begin with. From: Bhairitu noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast On 07/04/2014 07:20 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... wrote : I have always been fascinated by the idea that there were nuclear weapons of some type back in ancient times. There weren't any. This was in the Bronze age, the high water mark of technology was poor quality swords and ploughs made from deer shoulder blades. You won't be splitting any atoms with that stuff. Jeez, they'd only just invented glazed pots when the Indus valley civilisation collapsed! Or so we think. I don't know why humanity thinks that current civilization is the most advanced that has ever existed on this planet. If so it is also the most narcissistic
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But you are ignoring the obvious here Sal - the Ascended Masters had helped create all the ancient high civilizations like Lemuria, Atlantis, Shamballa and so forth - these all existed on the ETHERIC plane, not the physical plane so their bodies, clothes, buildings and all that were not gross enough to exist on the physical plane. So when they disappeared, there were never any physical artifacts to leave behind. Plus much of the earth's original technology was imported here by our Space Brothers This is the kind of explanation that a lot of people actually believe. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Yeah, I would like to know what science he is referring to - perhaps Eric Von Daniken type science? Or maybe Scientology type science? Or TM type science? its all cut from the same cloth. I guess it would depend if it gets buried or not. And there's always exceptions, like the pyramids at Giza, they are the world's first large buildings and they would probably outlast anything we've built if our civilisation ended tomorrow. But if things get buried they will last. Take the fabulous remains discovered in Turkey at Göbekli Tepe Göbekli Tepe Welcome to the presentation of the The World’s First Temple, Gobeklitepe … a pre-historic site, about 15 km away from the city of Sanliu... View on www.gobeklitepe.info Preview by Yahoo against the usual run of things they were actually buried by the makers (we assume) and are pristine. If they had been left to the elements they would have disappeared by now as they are 12,000 years old! Because of the age there are all sorts of fantasies about them being the Garden of Eden - loads of it on the net - but we will probably never know who built it or why. But why a civilisation that could make nuclear weapons would disappear completely is beyond me, it would have to have been huge. You don't get the sort of technology required from spending most of the day farming, you need a proper scientific caste with money to burn, and all the technology involved would have to be painstakingly invented. It takes time and makes a mess, it took most of the population of Egypt working together hundreds of years just to make the pyramids. The idea of a nuclear early human culture is just ridiculous, we were too busy hunting rhino's to worry about much else in the sort of time they would have needed to be working out how atoms work. I can't believe I'm actually spending time thinking about it, I'm going out for a drink! From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Well Michael, science has determined that anything very technological would have disappeared if it was over 5000 year old. Put that in your chillum and smoke it. :-D So how come we have plenty of evidence that Bronze age man built swords and simple homes and pottery but not that he had uranium processing centrifuges? The most sophisticated things that have turned up from the dawn of man's history have been the batteries (powered by vinegar) that the Egyptians used to electroplate gold. Amazingly clever for the age but a good few steps away from splitting the atom. I guess then we are talking about a more ancient civilisation that disappeared without trace, but where were they? How come we have an unbroken archaeological history from hunter gatherers, painting caves and then the Iron age and beyond. To find such a civilisation would be fabulous but their remains would be huge, they would need to find ancient uranium mines just for starters. I think if they exist we would have had glimpses from somewhere. I live in hope for a major rewrite, the British Museum exhibition about it would be fabulous... On 07/04/2014 10:29 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: and if there were civs that were more advanced than those of today, and they left no record of sign and were superseded by much lesser civs, then that advanced civ must not have been worth much to begin with. From: Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast On 07/04/2014 07:20 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I have always been fascinated by the idea that there were nuclear weapons of some type back in ancient
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Really Michael, I think you are a dummy. I would say you have very little understanding of the effects of time, changing geography, ice ages, volcanic activity. Oh, but Mr. Michael knows that if those hoity toity advanced civilizations were really so advanced then they could over come these other factors. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : and if there were civs that were more advanced than those of today, and they left no record of sign and were superseded by much lesser civs, then that advanced civ must not have been worth much to begin with. From: Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast On 07/04/2014 07:20 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... wrote : I have always been fascinated by the idea that there were nuclear weapons of some type back in ancient times. There weren't any. This was in the Bronze age, the high water mark of technology was poor quality swords and ploughs made from deer shoulder blades. You won't be splitting any atoms with that stuff. Jeez, they'd only just invented glazed pots when the Indus valley civilisation collapsed! Or so we think. I don't know why humanity thinks that current civilization is the most advanced that has ever existed on this planet. If so it is also the most narcissistic. :-D
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Never heard of Hancock - just looked him up - his books have sold 5 million copies worldwide - humans have an insatiable appetite for bullshit. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 4:38 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : But you are ignoring the obvious here Sal - the Ascended Masters had helped create all the ancient high civilizations like Lemuria, Atlantis, Shamballa and so forth - these all existed on the ETHERIC plane, not the physical plane so their bodies, clothes, buildings and all that were not gross enough to exist on the physical plane. So when they disappeared, there were never any physical artifacts to leave behind. Plus much of the earth's original technology was imported here by our Space Brothers This is the kind of explanation that a lot of people actually believe. Aw, you nearly had me convinced! The thing about radical archaeology is that, like a lot of things discussed here, everything else has to be wrong for it to be true. Amass enough evidence and it will have to be accepted. But we have a fairly well sussed idea of where we came from and to displace that gets more unlikely with every discovery that confirms the current view. Dear old Erich von Daniken wrote some great books but they were all nonsense from start to finish. The best thing about them is that they led people into me into a proper study of the past, the truth may not be as flashy as the Space Brothers narrative but it does have the benefit of giving our ancestors the proper credit for what they achieved with stone tools and bits of string. And boy do archaeologists get annoyed with people like Graham Hancock who saunter into a field of research knowing nothing about it and declare that everyone is wrong and then, to rub salt into the wound, sell books by the truckload. At least Hancock has admitted he's been totally wrong about many things so far, which is to his credit but he still should familiarise himself with what is known before trying to change our view of the past. Don't know what he's working on at the minute, probably looking for Atlantis. Good luck with that... From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Yeah, I would like to know what science he is referring to - perhaps Eric Von Daniken type science? Or maybe Scientology type science? Or TM type science? its all cut from the same cloth. I guess it would depend if it gets buried or not. And there's always exceptions, like the pyramids at Giza, they are the world's first large buildings and they would probably outlast anything we've built if our civilisation ended tomorrow. But if things get buried they will last. Take the fabulous remains discovered in Turkey at Göbekli Tepe Göbekli Tepe Welcome to the presentation of the The World’s First Temple, Gobeklitepe … a pre-historic site, about 15 km away from the city of Sanliu... View on www.gobeklitepe.infoPreview by Yahoo against the usual run of things they were actually buried by the makers (we assume) and are pristine. If they had been left to the elements they would have disappeared by now as they are 12,000 years old! Because of the age there are all sorts of fantasies about them being the Garden of Eden - loads of it on the net - but we will probably never know who built it or why. But why a civilisation that could make nuclear weapons would disappear completely is beyond me, it would have to have been huge. You don't get the sort of technology required from spending most of the day farming, you need a proper scientific caste with money to burn, and all the technology involved would have to be painstakingly invented. It takes time and makes a mess, it took most of the population of Egypt working together hundreds of years just to make the pyramids. The idea of a nuclear early human culture is just ridiculous, we were too busy hunting rhino's to worry about much else in the sort of time they would have needed to be working out how atoms work. I can't believe I'm actually spending time thinking about it, I'm going out for a drink! From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 8,000 Year Old Indian City Irradiated by Atomic Blast ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Well Michael, science has determined that anything very technological would have disappeared if it was over 5000 year old. Put that in your
