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Maybe Judy was correct - it sure looks to me like Anartaxiusis a passive/aggressive type. According to the Guardian article there is no explanation yet. Maybe we should attribute the zero murder rate in New York City to global warming. LoL! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : http://www.globalgoodnews.com/world-peace-a.html?art=142403213127980678 http://www.globalgoodnews.com/world-peace-a.html?art=142403213127980678 Regarding this story, the East Coast has had an unusual series of Winter storms. While the Boston area got the brunt of it all, two seasons worth of snow in the last 23 days, the New York area also was shut down for a couple of days in this period and its been colder than normal. Right now in my area about 60 miles (100km) from New York City, the temperature is -8ºF (-22ºC) with a wind chill factor of -22ºF (-30ºC) and a National Weather Service dangerous wind chill advisory for another hour or so. Now that the Sun is up here, it's starting to get a bit warmer. This seems to be a better explanation. It's frigging cold here with more snow than usual. People are staying in their homes more, etc. Also there is more awareness of police presence due to the incidents earlier a couple of deaths at the hands of police and the murder of policemen and huge funerals for these people, including a large number of police from other states recently attending the policemens' funerals in a show of solidarity. Even so, statistically it seems unlikely any explanation is really very solid to explain the drop in crime. The temperature has now risen to -1ºF (-18ºC). A balmy day!
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So, where are the TMO press releases and the news articles that claim Yogic Flying has resulted in a unprecedented drop in murders in New York City? It's beginning to look like Salya and MJ posted a fib to the group and you too. WHERE ARE THE TMO PRESS RELEASES? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : I hate to shatter Feste's dreams that he wasn't part of a cult that tries to take credit for pretty much *everything* that can be seen as positive, but here's the scoop from the top 'o the page at Global Good News: http://www.globalgoodnews.com/world-peace-a.html?art=142403213127980678 http://www.globalgoodnews.com/world-peace-a.html?art=142403213127980678 On 15 February 2015 The Guardian reported: New York City has enjoyed an almost unprecedented 12-day streak without a homicide. After months dominated by allegations that US law enforcement is reckless in the use of deadly force, especially when it comes to African-American men, there's a new criminal-justice narrative: US crime rates are falling, often dramatically, even as incarceration rates begin to level off. What Caused the Crime Decline? A study published last week by the Brennan centre for justice at New York University school of law looked closely at theories to explain the decline. Of 14 factors that might explain some of the drop, 'even adding all of them together fails to explain the majority of the decrease', the authors concluded.Global Good News service views this news as a sign of rising positivity in the fields of world peace and culture, documenting the growth of life-supporting, evolutionary trends. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 8:21 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Marshy Effect? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Interesting. Can you, Salyavin, provide the links to the press releases you say the TMO is now sending out claiming credit for the reduction in crime in New York? I know how you like to be scientific about everything, so I am sure you would not say this unless you had some evidence that it is indeed so. Indeed, you yourself say you can absolutely guarantee” it. So I’m looking forward to seeing those links you will post for us! I can only post links to news sources that have taken up the press releases. Obviously. But nobody ever does - for some reason. But how can I be so sure? I used to work in PR myself and everyone with an agenda, whether it's world peace or selling shoes, sends out a press release (PR's) at every chance they get to (hopefully) keep their brand in the news . Newspapers employ people to collect and collate the days PR's which are then sent to the editor who decides which is newsworthy and instructs journo's to get more information if the PR doesn't contain all they need for a story. When I worked in the media dept of the TMO it was no surprise to find that we sent out PR's on an almost daily basis. In fact part of my job was creating databases of journo's to send things to. Very easily done, you just read magazines and if you find someone who writes about things like alternative medicine they go on a list for the next ayurveda release etc. In times of conflict we'd send out PR's on a daily basis to every news outlet about how we had a proper solution to the trouble and how every government should give us money to create groups of yogic flyers. Crime rate gone up? PR about yogic flying. Impending election in war zone? Yogic flying again. Only one PR was ever taken up by the UK press (one about teaching the unemployed to do yogic flying so they can make themselves useful by keeping crime rates down - treated with distinct amusement) But that didn't stop them for a second, and so it shouldn't. Keeping up a good media profile is essential these days, look at the coverage a mere mention of David Lynch gets, do you really think that newspapers go looking for stories about celebrities and what they do? Of course not, the TMO sends out a press release with all relevant info and they get in touch if they want to make a story out of it. That's the way it works. So why don't we get to hear about the Marshy Effect PR's? Because crackpot theories about reducing crime by jumping up and down in your pyjama's still isn't considered a worthy news story. But I bet my bottom dollar they are still sending them out. They'd be failing in their duty if they've stopped. Unless they don't believe it any more either? Nah, they'd be all over this with a PR about the pundit programme and collective consciousness, guaranteed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : You can bet your bottom raam the Movement will take credit for this, as they do everything in the world they think will sell
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This is really funny! It looks like Sal and MJ and Barry posted some fibs again. So, I guess it has been established that they both can't be trusted to tell the truth - it makes one wonder how many other untruths they have posted to the group. Maybe Sal didn't work for the TMO; maybe MJ did not wash dishes at MIU; and maybe Barry never was a teacher of TM or met the Rama guy. Maybe they are just posers. Maybe they should apologize for trolling and then keep their big pie holes shut about TM and the TMSP. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Oh, this is hilarious. When asked to back up one of his absolute statements, all we get are six paragraphs of some kind of bobbing and weaving and a bunch of meaningless drivel. Did anyone expect anything different? No, we didn't. Thanks Sal. Keep us the good work! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Interesting. Can you, Salyavin, provide the links to the press releases you say the TMO is now sending out claiming credit for the reduction in crime in New York? I know how you like to be scientific about everything, so I am sure you would not say this unless you had some evidence that it is indeed so. Indeed, you yourself say you can absolutely guarantee” it. So I’m looking forward to seeing those links you will post for us! I can only post links to news sources that have taken up the press releases. Obviously. But nobody ever does - for some reason. But how can I be so sure? I used to work in PR myself and everyone with an agenda, whether it's world peace or selling shoes, sends out a press release (PR's) at every chance they get to (hopefully) keep their brand in the news . Newspapers employ people to collect and collate the days PR's which are then sent to the editor who decides which is newsworthy and instructs journo's to get more information if the PR doesn't contain all they need for a story. When I worked in the media dept of the TMO it was no surprise to find that we sent out PR's on an almost daily basis. In fact part of my job was creating databases of journo's to send things to. Very easily done, you just read magazines and if you find someone who writes about things like alternative medicine they go on a list for the next ayurveda release etc. In times of conflict we'd send out PR's on a daily basis to every news outlet about how we had a proper solution to the trouble and how every government should give us money to create groups of yogic flyers. Crime rate gone up? PR about yogic flying. Impending election in war zone? Yogic flying again. Only one PR was ever taken up by the UK press (one about teaching the unemployed to do yogic flying so they can make themselves useful by keeping crime rates down - treated with distinct amusement) But that didn't stop them for a second, and so it shouldn't. Keeping up a good media profile is essential these days, look at the coverage a mere mention of David Lynch gets, do you really think that newspapers go looking for stories about celebrities and what they do? Of course not, the TMO sends out a press release with all relevant info and they get in touch if they want to make a story out of it. That's the way it works. So why don't we get to hear about the Marshy Effect PR's? Because crackpot theories about reducing crime by jumping up and down in your pyjama's still isn't considered a worthy news story. But I bet my bottom dollar they are still sending them out. They'd be failing in their duty if they've stopped. Unless they don't believe it any more either? Nah, they'd be all over this with a PR about the pundit programme and collective consciousness, guaranteed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : You can bet your bottom raam the Movement will take credit for this, as they do everything in the world they think will sell tickets to their bizarre vedic circus. I had a raam note once, it cost me ten bucks and the missus threw it away because she thought it was joke money. OK she was right, but it cost a lot and had a nice picture on it. I thought it made a nice memento. However, I think the movement should keep quiet about their role in this apparent calmness as it actually contradicts the claimed Marshy Effect. If it took 7000 to lower the crime rate 20% in Washington in 1993 (not that I believe it) then how many have been meditating in New York to get a 54% reduction? Erm, none it would seem. So the Marshy Effect either isn't reliable enough to be tested or is hopelessly inadequate compared to whatever is going on now. But I can absolutely guarantee they are sending out PR's claiming that the lower crime is all down to them. We would have been! From:
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http://www.globalgoodnews.com/world-peace-a.html?art=142403213127980678 http://www.globalgoodnews.com/world-peace-a.html?art=142403213127980678 Regarding this story, the East Coast has had an unusual series of Winter storms. While the Boston area got the brunt of it all, two seasons worth of snow in the last 23 days, the New York area also was shut down for a couple of days in this period and its been colder than normal. Right now in my area about 60 miles (100km) from New York City, the temperature is -8ºF (-22ºC) with a wind chill factor of -22ºF (-30ºC) and a National Weather Service dangerous wind chill advisory for another hour or so. Now that the Sun is up here, it's starting to get a bit warmer. This seems to be a better explanation. It's frigging cold here with more snow than usual. People are staying in their homes more, etc. Also there is more awareness of police presence due to the incidents earlier a couple of deaths at the hands of police and the murder of policemen and huge funerals for these people, including a large number of police from other states recently attending the policemens' funerals in a show of solidarity. Even so, statistically it seems unlikely any explanation is really very solid to explain the drop in crime. The temperature has now risen to -1ºF (-18ºC). A balmy day!
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Well, much to my surprise the Movement is being cautious about claiming outright responsibility. But just wait, they'll get around to it. From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 2:48 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Marshy Effect? I hate to shatter Feste's dreams that he wasn't part of a cult that tries to take credit for pretty much *everything* that can be seen as positive, but here's the scoop from the top 'o the page at Global Good News: http://www.globalgoodnews.com/world-peace-a.html?art=142403213127980678 On 15 February 2015 The Guardian reported: New York City has enjoyed an almost unprecedented 12-day streak without a homicide. After months dominated by allegations that US law enforcement is reckless in the use of deadly force, especially when it comes to African-American men, there's a new criminal-justice narrative: US crime rates are falling, often dramatically, even as incarceration rates begin to level off. What Caused the Crime Decline? A study published last week by the Brennan centre for justice at New York University school of law looked closely at theories to explain the decline. Of 14 factors that might explain some of the drop, 'even adding all of them together fails to explain the majority of the decrease', the authors concluded. Global Good News service views this news as a sign of rising positivity in the fields of world peace and culture, documenting the growth of life-supporting, evolutionary trends. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 8:21 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Marshy Effect? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Interesting. Can you, Salyavin, provide the links to thepress releases you say the TMO is now sending out claiming credit for thereduction in crime in New York? I know how you like to be scientific abouteverything, so I am sure you would not say this unless you had some evidencethat it is indeed so. Indeed, you yourself say you can absolutely guarantee” it. So I’m lookingforward to seeing those links you will post for us! I can only post links to news sources that have taken up the press releases. Obviously. But nobody ever does - for some reason. But how can I be so sure? I used to work in PR myself and everyone with an agenda, whether it's world peace or selling shoes, sends out a press release (PR's) at every chance they get to (hopefully) keep their brand in the news . Newspapers employ people to collect and collate the days PR's which are then sent to the editor who decides which is newsworthy and instructs journo's to get more information if the PR doesn't contain all they need for a story. When I worked in the media dept of the TMO it was no surprise to find that we sent out PR's on an almost daily basis. In fact part of my job was creating databases of journo's to send things to. Very easily done, you just read magazines and if you find someone who writes about things like alternative medicine they go on a list for the next ayurveda release etc. In times of conflict we'd send out PR's on a daily basis to every news outlet about how we had a proper solution to the trouble and how every government should give us money to create groups of yogic flyers. Crime rate gone up? PR about yogic flying. Impending election in war zone? Yogic flying again. Only one PR was ever taken up by the UK press (one about teaching the unemployed to do yogic flying so they can make themselves useful by keeping crime rates down - treated with distinct amusement) But that didn't stop them for a second, and so it shouldn't. Keeping up a good media profile is essential these days, look at the coverage a mere mention of David Lynch gets, do you really think that newspapers go looking for stories about celebrities and what they do? Of course not, the TMO sends out a press release with all relevant info and they get in touch if they want to make a story out of it. That's the way it works. So why don't we get to hear about the Marshy Effect PR's? Because crackpot theories about reducing crime by jumping up and down in your pyjama's still isn't considered a worthy news story. But I bet my bottom dollar they are still sending them out. They'd be failing in their duty if they've stopped. Unless they don't believe it any more either? Nah, they'd be all over this with a PR about the pundit programme and collective consciousness, guaranteed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : You can bet your bottom raam the Movement will take credit for this, as they do everything in the world they think will sell tickets to their bizarre vedic circus. I had a raam
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : I hate to shatter Feste's dreams that he wasn't part of a cult that tries to take credit for pretty much *everything* that can be seen as positive, but here's the scoop from the top 'o the page at Global Good News: http://www.globalgoodnews.com/world-peace-a.html?art=142403213127980678 http://www.globalgoodnews.com/world-peace-a.html?art=142403213127980678 On 15 February 2015 The Guardian reported: New York City has enjoyed an almost unprecedented 12-day streak without a homicide. After months dominated by allegations that US law enforcement is reckless in the use of deadly force, especially when it comes to African-American men, there's a new criminal-justice narrative: US crime rates are falling, often dramatically, even as incarceration rates begin to level off. What Caused the Crime Decline? A study published last week by the Brennan centre for justice at New York University school of law looked closely at theories to explain the decline. Of 14 factors that might explain some of the drop, 'even adding all of them together fails to explain the majority of the decrease', the authors concluded.Global Good News service views this news as a sign of rising positivity in the fields of world peace and culture, documenting the growth of life-supporting, evolutionary trends. Ah yes, that's the sort of thing. I can see that turning into a press release no problem. The trouble they have getting this stuff picked up by the media (one of them anyway) is that they can't get any of the TM celebs to publicly endorse yogic flying and the Marshy Effect. Everyone understands the concept of meditation, so when celebs come out and say they do TM because they find relaxation useful it's ready-made copy for the papers because it's so obvious, and they get a famous face to get clicks with. But try and get David Lynch to publicly admit he believes in collective consciousness and that the FF butt-bouncers are responsible for anything paranormal, let alone that they brought down the Berlin wall, and he won't. There's no way he'll publicly admit to what he most assuredly believes because he knows full well that it wouldn't be treated as a celebrity endorsement but as a sign that he'd gone completely crazy. More ready-made copy. So they have to rely on the science which doesn't convince anyone. If anyone had real confidence in it it'd be self-explanatory and they'd be able to persuade DL and the other rent-a-mug's that it's worth getting into the public realm. But it's not and he's way too media savvy to sacrifice his credibility for that. So Feste, don't take the fact that you never see this in the news as evidence that they don't try, they are on the case every day. And the fact they never get this stuff published doesn't remotely bother them - they are like Jehovah's Witnesses in this respect - the act of sending out the press release so that people in influential positions get to read it is a spiritually satisfying enough act, because it gets the word out. It keeps us lively in their consciousness is how they described it to me. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 8:21 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Marshy Effect? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Interesting. Can you, Salyavin, provide the links to the press releases you say the TMO is now sending out claiming credit for the reduction in crime in New York? I know how you like to be scientific about everything, so I am sure you would not say this unless you had some evidence that it is indeed so. Indeed, you yourself say you can absolutely guarantee” it. So I’m looking forward to seeing those links you will post for us! I can only post links to news sources that have taken up the press releases. Obviously. But nobody ever does - for some reason. But how can I be so sure? I used to work in PR myself and everyone with an agenda, whether it's world peace or selling shoes, sends out a press release (PR's) at every chance they get to (hopefully) keep their brand in the news . Newspapers employ people to collect and collate the days PR's which are then sent to the editor who decides which is newsworthy and instructs journo's to get more information if the PR doesn't contain all they need for a story. When I worked in the media dept of the TMO it was no surprise to find that we sent out PR's on an almost daily basis. In fact part of my job was creating databases of journo's to send things to. Very easily done, you just read magazines and if you find someone who writes about things like alternative medicine they go on a list for the next ayurveda release etc. In times of conflict we'd send out PR's on a daily basis to every news outlet about how we had a proper solution to the trouble
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Oh, this is hilarious. When asked to back up one of his absolute statements, all we get are six paragraphs of some kind of bobbing and weaving and a bunch of meaningless drivel. Did anyone expect anything different? No, we didn't. Thanks Sal. Keep us the good work! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Interesting. Can you, Salyavin, provide the links to the press releases you say the TMO is now sending out claiming credit for the reduction in crime in New York? I know how you like to be scientific about everything, so I am sure you would not say this unless you had some evidence that it is indeed so. Indeed, you yourself say you can absolutely guarantee” it. So I’m looking forward to seeing those links you will post for us! I can only post links to news sources that have taken up the press releases. Obviously. But nobody ever does - for some reason. But how can I be so sure? I used to work in PR myself and everyone with an agenda, whether it's world peace or selling shoes, sends out a press release (PR's) at every chance they get to (hopefully) keep their brand in the news . Newspapers employ people to collect and collate the days PR's which are then sent to the editor who decides which is newsworthy and instructs journo's to get more information if the PR doesn't contain all they need for a story. When I worked in the media dept of the TMO it was no surprise to find that we sent out PR's on an almost daily basis. In fact part of my job was creating databases of journo's to send things to. Very easily done, you just read magazines and if you find someone who writes about things like alternative medicine they go on a list for the next ayurveda release etc. In times of conflict we'd send out PR's on a daily basis to every news outlet about how we had a proper solution to the trouble and how every government should give us money to create groups of yogic flyers. Crime rate gone up? PR about yogic flying. Impending election in war zone? Yogic flying again. Only one PR was ever taken up by the UK press (one about teaching the unemployed to do yogic flying so they can make themselves useful by keeping crime rates down - treated with distinct amusement) But that didn't stop them for a second, and so it shouldn't. Keeping up a good media profile is essential these days, look at the coverage a mere mention of David Lynch gets, do you really think that newspapers go looking for stories about celebrities and what they do? Of course not, the TMO sends out a press release with all relevant info and they get in touch if they want to make a story out of it. That's the way it works. So why don't we get to hear about the Marshy Effect PR's? Because crackpot theories about reducing crime by jumping up and down in your pyjama's still isn't considered a worthy news story. But I bet my bottom dollar they are still sending them out. They'd be failing in their duty if they've stopped. Unless they don't believe it any more either? Nah, they'd be all over this with a PR about the pundit programme and collective consciousness, guaranteed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : You can bet your bottom raam the Movement will take credit for this, as they do everything in the world they think will sell tickets to their bizarre vedic circus. I had a raam note once, it cost me ten bucks and the missus threw it away because she thought it was joke money. OK she was right, but it cost a lot and had a nice picture on it. I thought it made a nice memento. However, I think the movement should keep quiet about their role in this apparent calmness as it actually contradicts the claimed Marshy Effect. If it took 7000 to lower the crime rate 20% in Washington in 1993 (not that I believe it) then how many have been meditating in New York to get a 54% reduction? Erm, none it would seem. So the Marshy Effect either isn't reliable enough to be tested or is hopelessly inadequate compared to whatever is going on now. But I can absolutely guarantee they are sending out PR's claiming that the lower crime is all down to them. We would have been! From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 4:01 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Marshy Effect? After the Big Apple’s 12-day run without killings, experts struggle to find the reason for a trend repeated across the nation Although there was an attempted murder in Queens on Friday that left a man on life-support, New York has enjoyed an almost unprecedented 12-day streak without a homicide. While crime statistics are difficult to interpret – violent crimes such as rape and assault have not reduced so markedly
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And where exactly, do you see the TMO taking credit for it? ..growth of life-supporting, evolutionary trends Please show me, again, where the TMO is taking credit for this. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : I hate to shatter Feste's dreams that he wasn't part of a cult that tries to take credit for pretty much *everything* that can be seen as positive, but here's the scoop from the top 'o the page at Global Good News: http://www.globalgoodnews.com/world-peace-a.html?art=142403213127980678 http://www.globalgoodnews.com/world-peace-a.html?art=142403213127980678 On 15 February 2015 The Guardian reported: New York City has enjoyed an almost unprecedented 12-day streak without a homicide. After months dominated by allegations that US law enforcement is reckless in the use of deadly force, especially when it comes to African-American men, there's a new criminal-justice narrative: US crime rates are falling, often dramatically, even as incarceration rates begin to level off. What Caused the Crime Decline? A study published last week by the Brennan centre for justice at New York University school of law looked closely at theories to explain the decline. Of 14 factors that might explain some of the drop, 'even adding all of them together fails to explain the majority of the decrease', the authors concluded.Global Good News service views this news as a sign of rising positivity in the fields of world peace and culture, documenting the growth of life-supporting, evolutionary trends. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 8:21 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Marshy Effect? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Interesting. Can you, Salyavin, provide the links to the press releases you say the TMO is now sending out claiming credit for the reduction in crime in New York? I know how you like to be scientific about everything, so I am sure you would not say this unless you had some evidence that it is indeed so. Indeed, you yourself say you can absolutely guarantee” it. So I’m looking forward to seeing those links you will post for us! I can only post links to news sources that have taken up the press releases. Obviously. But nobody ever does - for some reason. But how can I be so sure? I used to work in PR myself and everyone with an agenda, whether it's world peace or selling shoes, sends out a press release (PR's) at every chance they get to (hopefully) keep their brand in the news . Newspapers employ people to collect and collate the days PR's which are then sent to the editor who decides which is newsworthy and instructs journo's to get more information if the PR doesn't contain all they need for a story. When I worked in the media dept of the TMO it was no surprise to find that we sent out PR's on an almost daily basis. In fact part of my job was creating databases of journo's to send things to. Very easily done, you just read magazines and if you find someone who writes about things like alternative medicine they go on a list for the next ayurveda release etc. In times of conflict we'd send out PR's on a daily basis to every news outlet about how we had a proper solution to the trouble and how every government should give us money to create groups of yogic flyers. Crime rate gone up? PR about yogic flying. Impending election in war zone? Yogic flying again. Only one PR was ever taken up by the UK press (one about teaching the unemployed to do yogic flying so they can make themselves useful by keeping crime rates down - treated with distinct amusement) But that didn't stop them for a second, and so it shouldn't. Keeping up a good media profile is essential these days, look at the coverage a mere mention of David Lynch gets, do you really think that newspapers go looking for stories about celebrities and what they do? Of course not, the TMO sends out a press release with all relevant info and they get in touch if they want to make a story out of it. That's the way it works. So why don't we get to hear about the Marshy Effect PR's? Because crackpot theories about reducing crime by jumping up and down in your pyjama's still isn't considered a worthy news story. But I bet my bottom dollar they are still sending them out. They'd be failing in their duty if they've stopped. Unless they don't believe it any more either? Nah, they'd be all over this with a PR about the pundit programme and collective consciousness, guaranteed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : You can bet your bottom raam the Movement will take credit for this, as they do everything in the world they think will sell tickets to their bizarre vedic circus. I had a raam note once, it cost me ten
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Sal, it ain't working. Just throwing a bunch of sentences at your miscue doesn't make your case. You're just making a lot of speculations to try to save face. If you don't strike gold in your preaching after five minutes, stop boring ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : I hate to shatter Feste's dreams that he wasn't part of a cult that tries to take credit for pretty much *everything* that can be seen as positive, but here's the scoop from the top 'o the page at Global Good News: http://www.globalgoodnews.com/world-peace-a.html?art=142403213127980678 http://www.globalgoodnews.com/world-peace-a.html?art=142403213127980678 On 15 February 2015 The Guardian reported: New York City has enjoyed an almost unprecedented 12-day streak without a homicide. After months dominated by allegations that US law enforcement is reckless in the use of deadly force, especially when it comes to African-American men, there's a new criminal-justice narrative: US crime rates are falling, often dramatically, even as incarceration rates begin to level off. What Caused the Crime Decline? A study published last week by the Brennan centre for justice at New York University school of law looked closely at theories to explain the decline. Of 14 factors that might explain some of the drop, 'even adding all of them together fails to explain the majority of the decrease', the authors concluded.Global Good News service views this news as a sign of rising positivity in the fields of world peace and culture, documenting the growth of life-supporting, evolutionary trends. Ah yes, that's the sort of thing. I can see that turning into a press release no problem. The trouble they have getting this stuff picked up by the media (one of them anyway) is that they can't get any of the TM celebs to publicly endorse yogic flying and the Marshy Effect. Everyone understands the concept of meditation, so when celebs come out and say they do TM because they find relaxation useful it's ready-made copy for the papers because it's so obvious, and they get a famous face to get clicks with. But try and get David Lynch to publicly admit he believes in collective consciousness and that the FF butt-bouncers are responsible for anything paranormal, let alone that they brought down the Berlin wall, and he won't. There's no way he'll publicly admit to what he most assuredly believes because he knows full well that it wouldn't be treated as a celebrity endorsement but as a sign that he'd gone completely crazy. More ready-made copy. So they have to rely on the science which doesn't convince anyone. If anyone had real confidence in it it'd be self-explanatory and they'd be able to persuade DL and the other rent-a-mug's that it's worth getting into the public realm. But it's not and he's way too media savvy to sacrifice his credibility for that. So Feste, don't take the fact that you never see this in the news as evidence that they don't try, they are on the case every day. And the fact they never get this stuff published doesn't remotely bother them - they are like Jehovah's Witnesses in this respect - the act of sending out the press release so that people in influential positions get to read it is a spiritually satisfying enough act, because it gets the word out. It keeps us lively in their consciousness is how they described it to me. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 8:21 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Marshy Effect? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Interesting. Can you, Salyavin, provide the links to the press releases you say the TMO is now sending out claiming credit for the reduction in crime in New York? I know how you like to be scientific about everything, so I am sure you would not say this unless you had some evidence that it is indeed so. Indeed, you yourself say you can absolutely guarantee” it. So I’m looking forward to seeing those links you will post for us! I can only post links to news sources that have taken up the press releases. Obviously. But nobody ever does - for some reason. But how can I be so sure? I used to work in PR myself and everyone with an agenda, whether it's world peace or selling shoes, sends out a press release (PR's) at every chance they get to (hopefully) keep their brand in the news . Newspapers employ people to collect and collate the days PR's which are then sent to the editor who decides which is newsworthy and instructs journo's to get more information if the PR doesn't contain all they need for a story. When I worked in the media dept of the TMO it was no surprise to find that we sent out PR's on an almost daily basis. In fact part of my job was creating databases of journo's
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : You can bet your bottom raam the Movement will take credit for this, as they do everything in the world they think will sell tickets to their bizarre vedic circus. I had a raam note once, it cost me ten bucks and the missus threw it away because she thought it was joke money. OK she was right, but it cost a lot and had a nice picture on it. I thought it made a nice memento. However, I think the movement should keep quiet about their role in this apparent calmness as it actually contradicts the claimed Marshy Effect. If it took 7000 to lower the crime rate 20% in Washington in 1993 (not that I believe it) then how many have been meditating in New York to get a 54% reduction? Erm, none it would seem. So the Marshy Effect either isn't reliable enough to be tested or is hopelessly inadequate compared to whatever is going on now. But I can absolutely guarantee they are sending out PR's claiming that the lower crime is all down to them. We would have been! From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 4:01 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Marshy Effect? After the Big Apple’s 12-day run without killings, experts struggle to find the reason for a trend repeated across the nation Although there was an attempted murder in Queens on Friday that left a man on life-support, New York has enjoyed an almost unprecedented 12-day streak without a homicide. While crime statistics are difficult to interpret – violent crimes such as rape and assault have not reduced so markedly – the trend overall is repeated across the US. From its peak in 1991, violent crime is down 51%; property crime 4% lower; and murder down 54%. During that same time, incarceration nearly doubled. The US prison population now stands at 2.4 million – up 800% since 1980 – or roughly a quarter of the world’s total. The cost? About $80bn a year. The overall cost of the US criminal justice system is placed at $240bn, or about half of the federal deficit. But according to What Caused the Crime Decline?, a study published last week by the Brennan centre for justice at New York University school of law, there is no definitive link between falling crime and mass incarceration. I'd like to see the daily press releases the TMO are sending out about this, doesn't look like they are reaching a sympathetic audience though New York’s streets are suddenly safer. Why? http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/14/new-york-plunging-murder-rate-why http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/14/new-york-plunging-murder-rate-why New York’s streets are suddenly safer. Why? http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/14/new-york-plunging-murder-rate-why After the Big Apple’s 12-day run without killings, experts struggle to find the reason for a trend repeated across the nation View on www.theguardian.com http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/14/new-york-plunging-murder-rate-why Preview by Yahoo
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From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 2:57 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Marshy Effect? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : You can bet your bottom raam the Movement will take credit for this, as they do everything in the world they think will sell tickets to their bizarre vedic circus. I had a raam note once, it cost me ten bucks and the missus threw it away because she thought it was joke money. OK she was right, but it cost a lot and had a nice picture on it. I thought it made a nice memento. However, I think the movement should keep quiet about their role in this apparent calmness as it actually contradicts the claimed Marshy Effect. If it took 7000 to lower the crime rate 20% in Washington in 1993 (not that I believe it) then how many have been meditating in New York to get a 54% reduction? Erm, none it would seem. So the Marshy Effect either isn't reliable enough to be tested or is hopelessly inadequate compared to whatever is going on now. But I can absolutely guarantee they are sending out PR's claiming that the lower crime is all down to them. We would have been!
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Marshy Effect?
You can bet your bottom raam the Movement will take credit for this, as they do
everything in the world they think will sell tickets to their bizarre vedic
circus.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 4:01 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Marshy Effect?
After the Big Apple’s 12-day run without killings, experts struggle to find
the reason for a trend repeated across the nation
Although there was an attempted murder in Queens on Friday that left a man on
life-support, New York has enjoyed an almost unprecedented 12-day streak
without a homicide. While crime statistics are difficult to interpret – violent
crimes such as rape and assault have not reduced so markedly – the trend
overall is repeated across the US. From its peak in 1991, violent crime is down
51%; property crime 4% lower; and murder down 54%.During that same time,
incarceration nearly doubled. The US prison population now stands at 2.4
million – up 800% since 1980 – or roughly a quarter of the world’s total. The
cost? About $80bn a year. The overall cost of the US criminal justice system is
placed at $240bn, or about half of the federal deficit.But according to What
Caused the Crime Decline?, a study published last week by the Brennan centre
for justice at New York University school of law, there is no definitive link
between falling crime and mass incarceration.I'd like to see the daily press
releases the TMO are sending out about this, doesn't look like they are
reaching a sympathetic audience though
New York’s streets are suddenly safer. Why?
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the Big Apple’s 12-day run without killings, experts struggle to find the
reason for a trend repeated across the nation||
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Re: [FairfieldLife] The Marshy Effect?
Yeah, blame it on the weather that the murder rate is down in the last few days in New York City and that crime is down in the rest of the U.S. - it's not snowing down here. So, how would the snow in Boston explain that there are millions of individuals incarcerated for violent crimes at a cost to U.S. taxpayers of $80 billion every year? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : And from what I've been reading the New York and the northeast has a run of bad winter weather with lots of snow. Not exactly weather for criminals to be out and about. Summer is the time for that. America loves to cook the books to make itself look better. That includes unemployment statistics and the economy. On 02/15/2015 01:01 AM, salyavin808 wrote: After the Big Apple’s 12-day run without killings, experts struggle to find the reason for a trend repeated across the nation Although there was an attempted murder in Queens on Friday that left a man on life-support, New York has enjoyed an almost unprecedented 12-day streak without a homicide. While crime statistics are difficult to interpret – violent crimes such as rape and assault have not reduced so markedly – the trend overall is repeated across the US. From its peak in 1991, violent crime is down 51%; property crime 4% lower; and murder down 54%. During that same time, incarceration nearly doubled. The US prison population now stands at 2.4 million – up 800% since 1980 – or roughly a quarter of the world’s total. The cost? About $80bn a year. The overall cost of the US criminal justice system is placed at $240bn, or about half of the federal deficit. But according to What Caused the Crime Decline?, a study published last week by the Brennan centre for justice at New York University school of law, there is no definitive link between falling crime and mass incarceration. I'd like to see the daily press releases the TMO are sending out about this, doesn't look like they are reaching a sympathetic audience though New York’s streets are suddenly safer. Why? New York’s streets are suddenly safer. Why? After the Big Apple’s 12-day run without killings, experts struggle to find the reason for a trend repeated across the nation View on www.theguardian.com Preview by Yahoo
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And from what I've been reading the New York and the northeast has a run of bad winter weather with lots of snow. Not exactly weather for criminals to be out and about. Summer is the time for that. America loves to cook the books to make itself look better. That includes unemployment statistics and the economy. On 02/15/2015 01:01 AM, salyavin808 wrote: After the Big Apple’s 12-day run without killings, experts struggle to find the reason for a trend repeated across the nation Although there was an attempted murder in Queens on Friday that left a man on life-support, New York has enjoyed an almost unprecedented 12-day streak without a homicide. While crime statistics are difficult to interpret – violent crimes such as rape and assault have not reduced so markedly – the trend overall is repeated across the US. From its peak in 1991, violent crime is down 51%; property crime 4% lower; and murder down 54%. During that same time, incarceration nearly doubled. The US prison population now stands at 2.4 million – up 800% since 1980 – or roughly a quarter of the world’s total. The cost? About $80bn a year. The overall cost of the US criminal justice system is placed at $240bn, or about half of the federal deficit. But according to /What Caused the Crime Decline?/, a study published last week by the Brennan centre for justice at New York University school of law, there is no definitive link between falling crime and mass incarceration. I'd like to see the daily press releases the TMO are sending out about this, doesn't look like they are reaching a sympathetic audience though New York’s streets are suddenly safer. Why? http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/14/new-york-plunging-murder-rate-why image http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/14/new-york-plunging-murder-rate-why New York’s streets are suddenly safer. Why? http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/14/new-york-plunging-murder-rate-why After the Big Apple’s 12-day run without killings, experts struggle to find the reason for a trend repeated across the nation View on www.theguardian.com http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/14/new-york-plunging-murder-rate-why Preview by Yahoo
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Interesting. Can you, Salyavin, provide the links to the press releases you say the TMO is now sending out claiming credit for the reduction in crime in New York? I know how you like to be scientific about everything, so I am sure you would not say this unless you had some evidence that it is indeed so. Indeed, you yourself say you can absolutely guarantee” it. So I’m looking forward to seeing those links you will post for us! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : You can bet your bottom raam the Movement will take credit for this, as they do everything in the world they think will sell tickets to their bizarre vedic circus. I had a raam note once, it cost me ten bucks and the missus threw it away because she thought it was joke money. OK she was right, but it cost a lot and had a nice picture on it. I thought it made a nice memento. However, I think the movement should keep quiet about their role in this apparent calmness as it actually contradicts the claimed Marshy Effect. If it took 7000 to lower the crime rate 20% in Washington in 1993 (not that I believe it) then how many have been meditating in New York to get a 54% reduction? Erm, none it would seem. So the Marshy Effect either isn't reliable enough to be tested or is hopelessly inadequate compared to whatever is going on now. But I can absolutely guarantee they are sending out PR's claiming that the lower crime is all down to them. We would have been! From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 4:01 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Marshy Effect? After the Big Apple’s 12-day run without killings, experts struggle to find the reason for a trend repeated across the nation Although there was an attempted murder in Queens on Friday that left a man on life-support, New York has enjoyed an almost unprecedented 12-day streak without a homicide. While crime statistics are difficult to interpret – violent crimes such as rape and assault have not reduced so markedly – the trend overall is repeated across the US. From its peak in 1991, violent crime is down 51%; property crime 4% lower; and murder down 54%. During that same time, incarceration nearly doubled. The US prison population now stands at 2.4 million – up 800% since 1980 – or roughly a quarter of the world’s total. The cost? About $80bn a year. The overall cost of the US criminal justice system is placed at $240bn, or about half of the federal deficit. But according to What Caused the Crime Decline?, a study published last week by the Brennan centre for justice at New York University school of law, there is no definitive link between falling crime and mass incarceration. I'd like to see the daily press releases the TMO are sending out about this, doesn't look like they are reaching a sympathetic audience though New York’s streets are suddenly safer. Why? http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/14/new-york-plunging-murder-rate-why http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/14/new-york-plunging-murder-rate-why New York’s streets are suddenly safer. Why? http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/14/new-york-plunging-murder-rate-why After the Big Apple’s 12-day run without killings, experts struggle to find the reason for a trend repeated across the nation View on www.theguardian.com http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/14/new-york-plunging-murder-rate-why Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Marshy Effect?
There seems to be somewhat of a disconnect going on here. I guess it was a good thing you going up to work for the TMO and MIU to help the Maharishi's TM movement for a year or two. But, you seem to be obsessed with his personal life at the expense of your own. You're not doing yourself any favors by constantly shifting the blame for your own failures onto the Yogi. It seems to me that meditating for a few minutes a day is the least you could be doing in order to promote world peace. I mean, what exactly have you done on your own as far as personal aims and goals to better the world and help people? This is a difficult question to answer, I know, but you are not getting any younger. LoL!. At some point I would think it's time for you to set goals and try to work out your own salvation with some sort of seriousness. Or, maybe it's too late - this posting is just about all you can manage in this life. I would at least have thought you could be honest in a discussion group and sign your own name to your many messages - at least so that maybe your children or grand-children could read them after you're gone and try and figure out what it was you were trying to accomplish in life. Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : You can bet your bottom raam the Movement will take credit for this, as they do everything in the world they think will sell tickets to their bizarre vedic circus. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 4:01 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Marshy Effect? After the Big Apple’s 12-day run without killings, experts struggle to find the reason for a trend repeated across the nation Although there was an attempted murder in Queens on Friday that left a man on life-support, New York has enjoyed an almost unprecedented 12-day streak without a homicide. While crime statistics are difficult to interpret – violent crimes such as rape and assault have not reduced so markedly – the trend overall is repeated across the US. From its peak in 1991, violent crime is down 51%; property crime 4% lower; and murder down 54%. During that same time, incarceration nearly doubled. The US prison population now stands at 2.4 million – up 800% since 1980 – or roughly a quarter of the world’s total. The cost? About $80bn a year. The overall cost of the US criminal justice system is placed at $240bn, or about half of the federal deficit. But according to What Caused the Crime Decline?, a study published last week by the Brennan centre for justice at New York University school of law, there is no definitive link between falling crime and mass incarceration. I'd like to see the daily press releases the TMO are sending out about this, doesn't look like they are reaching a sympathetic audience though New York’s streets are suddenly safer. Why? http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/14/new-york-plunging-murder-rate-why http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/14/new-york-plunging-murder-rate-why New York’s streets are suddenly safer. Why? http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/14/new-york-plunging-murder-rate-why After the Big Apple’s 12-day run without killings, experts struggle to find the reason for a trend repeated across the nation View on www.theguardian.com http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/14/new-york-plunging-murder-rate-why Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Marshy Effect?
Ahh, you misunderstand the Movement's mentality. They imply that the few people
in all areas of the country would be responsible for the drop, even though it
ain't enough t stop the pundits from rioting in Fairfield itself. Interesting
that in pre-siddhis days Marshy the Old Fakir would praise all us meditators
for doing our meditation at home and that all the individuals doing TM at home
and in their offices were responsible for all the good stuff that might be
happening around the world, then after the siddhis was on Marshy implied that
doing program at home wasn't worth a shit anymore, everyone was supposed to
come to Fairfield or DC and be in a group. Easier to practice mind control on
insular groups, but he never said that outright you know.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Marshy Effect?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
You can bet your bottom raam the Movement will take credit for this, as they do
everything in the world they think will sell tickets to their bizarre vedic
circus.
I had a raam note once, it cost me ten bucks and the missus threw it away
because she thought it was joke money. OK she was right, but it cost a lot and
had a nice picture on it. I thought it made a nice memento.
However, I think the movement should keep quiet about their role in this
apparent calmness as it actually contradicts the claimed Marshy Effect. If it
took 7000 to lower the crime rate 20% in Washington in 1993 (not that I believe
it) then how many have been meditating in New York to get a 54% reduction?
Erm, none it would seem. So the Marshy Effect either isn't reliable enough to
be tested or is hopelessly inadequate compared to whatever is going on now.
But I can absolutely guarantee they are sending out PR's claiming that the
lower crime is all down to them. We would have been!
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 4:01 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Marshy Effect?
After the Big Apple’s 12-day run without killings, experts struggle to find
the reason for a trend repeated across the nation
Although there was an attempted murder in Queens on Friday that left a man on
life-support, New York has enjoyed an almost unprecedented 12-day streak
without a homicide. While crime statistics are difficult to interpret – violent
crimes such as rape and assault have not reduced so markedly – the trend
overall is repeated across the US. From its peak in 1991, violent crime is down
51%; property crime 4% lower; and murder down 54%.During that same time,
incarceration nearly doubled. The US prison population now stands at 2.4
million – up 800% since 1980 – or roughly a quarter of the world’s total. The
cost? About $80bn a year. The overall cost of the US criminal justice system is
placed at $240bn, or about half of the federal deficit.But according to What
Caused the Crime Decline?, a study published last week by the Brennan centre
for justice at New York University school of law, there is no definitive link
between falling crime and mass incarceration.I'd like to see the daily press
releases the TMO are sending out about this, doesn't look like they are
reaching a sympathetic audience though
New York’s streets are suddenly safer. Why?
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Re: [FairfieldLife] The Marshy Effect?
Michael says he would bet his bottom dollar and Salya says he will absolutely guarantee the links. Let's see them put their money where there mouth is. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Interesting. Can you, Salyavin, provide the links to the press releases you say the TMO is now sending out claiming credit for the reduction in crime in New York? I know how you like to be scientific about everything, so I am sure you would not say this unless you had some evidence that it is indeed so. Indeed, you yourself say you can absolutely guarantee” it. So I’m looking forward to seeing those links you will post for us! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : You can bet your bottom raam the Movement will take credit for this, as they do everything in the world they think will sell tickets to their bizarre vedic circus. I had a raam note once, it cost me ten bucks and the missus threw it away because she thought it was joke money. OK she was right, but it cost a lot and had a nice picture on it. I thought it made a nice memento. However, I think the movement should keep quiet about their role in this apparent calmness as it actually contradicts the claimed Marshy Effect. If it took 7000 to lower the crime rate 20% in Washington in 1993 (not that I believe it) then how many have been meditating in New York to get a 54% reduction? Erm, none it would seem. So the Marshy Effect either isn't reliable enough to be tested or is hopelessly inadequate compared to whatever is going on now. But I can absolutely guarantee they are sending out PR's claiming that the lower crime is all down to them. We would have been! From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 4:01 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Marshy Effect? After the Big Apple’s 12-day run without killings, experts struggle to find the reason for a trend repeated across the nation Although there was an attempted murder in Queens on Friday that left a man on life-support, New York has enjoyed an almost unprecedented 12-day streak without a homicide. While crime statistics are difficult to interpret – violent crimes such as rape and assault have not reduced so markedly – the trend overall is repeated across the US. From its peak in 1991, violent crime is down 51%; property crime 4% lower; and murder down 54%. During that same time, incarceration nearly doubled. The US prison population now stands at 2.4 million – up 800% since 1980 – or roughly a quarter of the world’s total. The cost? About $80bn a year. The overall cost of the US criminal justice system is placed at $240bn, or about half of the federal deficit. But according to What Caused the Crime Decline?, a study published last week by the Brennan centre for justice at New York University school of law, there is no definitive link between falling crime and mass incarceration. I'd like to see the daily press releases the TMO are sending out about this, doesn't look like they are reaching a sympathetic audience though New York’s streets are suddenly safer. Why? http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/14/new-york-plunging-murder-rate-why http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/14/new-york-plunging-murder-rate-why New York’s streets are suddenly safer. Why? http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/14/new-york-plunging-murder-rate-why After the Big Apple’s 12-day run without killings, experts struggle to find the reason for a trend repeated across the nation View on www.theguardian.com http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/14/new-york-plunging-murder-rate-why Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Marshy Effect?
I hate to shatter Feste's dreams that he wasn't part of a cult that tries to take credit for pretty much *everything* that can be seen as positive, but here's the scoop from the top 'o the page at Global Good News: http://www.globalgoodnews.com/world-peace-a.html?art=142403213127980678 On 15 February 2015 The Guardian reported: New York City has enjoyed an almost unprecedented 12-day streak without a homicide. After months dominated by allegations that US law enforcement is reckless in the use of deadly force, especially when it comes to African-American men, there's a new criminal-justice narrative: US crime rates are falling, often dramatically, even as incarceration rates begin to level off. What Caused the Crime Decline? A study published last week by the Brennan centre for justice at New York University school of law looked closely at theories to explain the decline. Of 14 factors that might explain some of the drop, 'even adding all of them together fails to explain the majority of the decrease', the authors concluded. Global Good News service views this news as a sign of rising positivity in the fields of world peace and culture, documenting the growth of life-supporting, evolutionary trends. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 8:21 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Marshy Effect? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Interesting. Can you, Salyavin, provide the links to thepress releases you say the TMO is now sending out claiming credit for thereduction in crime in New York? I know how you like to be scientific abouteverything, so I am sure you would not say this unless you had some evidencethat it is indeed so. Indeed, you yourself say you can absolutely guarantee” it. So I’m lookingforward to seeing those links you will post for us! I can only post links to news sources that have taken up the press releases. Obviously. But nobody ever does - for some reason. But how can I be so sure? I used to work in PR myself and everyone with an agenda, whether it's world peace or selling shoes, sends out a press release (PR's) at every chance they get to (hopefully) keep their brand in the news . Newspapers employ people to collect and collate the days PR's which are then sent to the editor who decides which is newsworthy and instructs journo's to get more information if the PR doesn't contain all they need for a story. When I worked in the media dept of the TMO it was no surprise to find that we sent out PR's on an almost daily basis. In fact part of my job was creating databases of journo's to send things to. Very easily done, you just read magazines and if you find someone who writes about things like alternative medicine they go on a list for the next ayurveda release etc. In times of conflict we'd send out PR's on a daily basis to every news outlet about how we had a proper solution to the trouble and how every government should give us money to create groups of yogic flyers. Crime rate gone up? PR about yogic flying. Impending election in war zone? Yogic flying again. Only one PR was ever taken up by the UK press (one about teaching the unemployed to do yogic flying so they can make themselves useful by keeping crime rates down - treated with distinct amusement) But that didn't stop them for a second, and so it shouldn't. Keeping up a good media profile is essential these days, look at the coverage a mere mention of David Lynch gets, do you really think that newspapers go looking for stories about celebrities and what they do? Of course not, the TMO sends out a press release with all relevant info and they get in touch if they want to make a story out of it. That's the way it works. So why don't we get to hear about the Marshy Effect PR's? Because crackpot theories about reducing crime by jumping up and down in your pyjama's still isn't considered a worthy news story. But I bet my bottom dollar they are still sending them out. They'd be failing in their duty if they've stopped. Unless they don't believe it any more either? Nah, they'd be all over this with a PR about the pundit programme and collective consciousness, guaranteed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : You can bet your bottom raam the Movement will take credit for this, as they do everything in the world they think will sell tickets to their bizarre vedic circus. I had a raam note once, it cost me ten bucks and the missus threw it away because she thought it was joke money. OK she was right, but it cost a lot and had a nice picture on it. I thought it made a nice memento. However, I think the movement should keep quiet about their role in this apparent calmness as it actually contradicts the claimed Marshy Effect. If it took 7000 to lower the crime rate 20
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Marshy Effect?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Interesting. Can you, Salyavin, provide the links to the press releases you say the TMO is now sending out claiming credit for the reduction in crime in New York? I know how you like to be scientific about everything, so I am sure you would not say this unless you had some evidence that it is indeed so. Indeed, you yourself say you can absolutely guarantee” it. So I’m looking forward to seeing those links you will post for us! I can only post links to news sources that have taken up the press releases. Obviously. But nobody ever does - for some reason. But how can I be so sure? I used to work in PR myself and everyone with an agenda, whether it's world peace or selling shoes, sends out a press release (PR's) at every chance they get to (hopefully) keep their brand in the news . Newspapers employ people to collect and collate the days PR's which are then sent to the editor who decides which is newsworthy and instructs journo's to get more information if the PR doesn't contain all they need for a story. When I worked in the media dept of the TMO it was no surprise to find that we sent out PR's on an almost daily basis. In fact part of my job was creating databases of journo's to send things to. Very easily done, you just read magazines and if you find someone who writes about things like alternative medicine they go on a list for the next ayurveda release etc. In times of conflict we'd send out PR's on a daily basis to every news outlet about how we had a proper solution to the trouble and how every government should give us money to create groups of yogic flyers. Crime rate gone up? PR about yogic flying. Impending election in war zone? Yogic flying again. Only one PR was ever taken up by the UK press (one about teaching the unemployed to do yogic flying so they can make themselves useful by keeping crime rates down - treated with distinct amusement) But that didn't stop them for a second, and so it shouldn't. Keeping up a good media profile is essential these days, look at the coverage a mere mention of David Lynch gets, do you really think that newspapers go looking for stories about celebrities and what they do? Of course not, the TMO sends out a press release with all relevant info and they get in touch if they want to make a story out of it. That's the way it works. So why don't we get to hear about the Marshy Effect PR's? Because crackpot theories about reducing crime by jumping up and down in your pyjama's still isn't considered a worthy news story. But I bet my bottom dollar they are still sending them out. They'd be failing in their duty if they've stopped. Unless they don't believe it any more either? Nah, they'd be all over this with a PR about the pundit programme and collective consciousness, guaranteed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : You can bet your bottom raam the Movement will take credit for this, as they do everything in the world they think will sell tickets to their bizarre vedic circus. I had a raam note once, it cost me ten bucks and the missus threw it away because she thought it was joke money. OK she was right, but it cost a lot and had a nice picture on it. I thought it made a nice memento. However, I think the movement should keep quiet about their role in this apparent calmness as it actually contradicts the claimed Marshy Effect. If it took 7000 to lower the crime rate 20% in Washington in 1993 (not that I believe it) then how many have been meditating in New York to get a 54% reduction? Erm, none it would seem. So the Marshy Effect either isn't reliable enough to be tested or is hopelessly inadequate compared to whatever is going on now. But I can absolutely guarantee they are sending out PR's claiming that the lower crime is all down to them. We would have been! From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 4:01 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Marshy Effect? After the Big Apple’s 12-day run without killings, experts struggle to find the reason for a trend repeated across the nation Although there was an attempted murder in Queens on Friday that left a man on life-support, New York has enjoyed an almost unprecedented 12-day streak without a homicide. While crime statistics are difficult to interpret – violent crimes such as rape and assault have not reduced so markedly – the trend overall is repeated across the US. From its peak in 1991, violent crime is down 51%; property crime 4% lower; and murder down 54%. During that same time, incarceration nearly doubled. The US prison population now stands at 2.4 million – up 800% since 1980 – or roughly a quarter of the world’s total. The cost? About $80bn a year. The overall
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy Effect is REAL!!!
There would be a lot of dead Californians then. The ballot tomorrow ONLY has Democrats and Republicans on it for state wide and congressional positions. There are no third parties on it. Just Tweedle-dee and Tweedle-dumber. On 11/03/2014 10:30 AM, s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Old joke: Interviewer says to a voter: “If I put a gun to your head and told you to choose between the Democrats and the Republicans, what would you say?” Voter: “Pull the trigger.” ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I take it all back - the Marshy Effect is really really real! This article is proof positive that the ME is alive and working overtime in Iowa!!! http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/nov/03/joni-ernst-pig-castrator-iowa-win-senate-republicans?CMP=ema_565 image http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/nov/03/joni-ernst-pig-castrator-iowa-win-senate-republicans?CMP=ema_565 Former pig castrator Joni Ernst poised to win Iowa Senat... http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/nov/03/joni-ernst-pig-castrator-iowa-win-senate-republicans?CMP=ema_565 Republican once considered an obscure one-term state senator has the momentum in Iowa despite suffering the ridicule of her rivals View on www.theguardian.com http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/nov/03/joni-ernst-pig-castrator-iowa-win-senate-republicans?CMP=ema_565 Preview by Yahoo
