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Re: feedback required !!!
jude ui wrote: Maybe this is a little off topic but, what programs do you like to use for graphics? (I don't think this will effect FOSS) We here at the Art team try to use and promote as much as we can FOSS applications for graphic creation, here are some recommendations: - Inkscape for illustration and any wector graphics; - GIMP for all raster needs, including photo manipulation; - Scribus for publishing, layout and print preparation; - Blender for 3D. There are also a lot of little gems like Agave, Fyre, gLabels and so on. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [ASAP] Can anyone please send me these three screenshots?
- Mark mark...@gmail.com wrote: 2008/12/20 susmit shannigrahi thinklinux@gmail.com: Can anyone please send me a high resolution version of the three screenshots embedded in the frontpage of the attched picture, namely a plymouth screenshot, a login screen picture , a desktop screenshot. Never mind the stretched design..I shall take care of that. Thanks for your help. -- Regards, Susmit. If you have Fedora 10 installed your really better of making the screenshots yourself because of the resolutions. If you don't have Fedora download the DVD or the Gnome live cd (where you have to install KDE as well for one of the shots). Install it in a vmware session (or Sun's VirtualBox which is good as well). The screenshots in the image are (from top to bottom): 1. KDE Splash screen It's not KDE's Solar Comet Splash screen but Plymouth Splash screen. For Fedora KDE Desktop Edition version of banner see my blogpost - http://borntobeopen.blogspot.com/2008/11/fedora-10-kde-desktop-edition.html R. 2. Fedora Login screen (GDM) 3. Default fedora gnome screen Good luck. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Jaroslav Řezník jrez...@redhat.com Software Engineer - Base Operating Systems Brno Office: +420 532 294 275 Mobile: +420 731 455 332 Red Hat, Inc. http://cz.redhat.com/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Can pungi put packages in the iso that are not installed?
On Dec 23, 2008, at 12:41 AM, Jesse Keating wrote: On Mon, 2008-12-22 at 22:29 -0600, Joe Nall wrote: Can pungi put packages/groups in the iso that are not installed? Context: I'm building spin using pungi that includes packages that get installed in a second pass in a manner similar to firstboot. The packages require a number of services to be running to properly configure themselves and can't be grouped in the initial install. I want to include the packages in the repo, but not install them until the system has more services running. Sure! Just make sure they are in the %packages section of your pungi kickstart file and pungi will make sure they're on the install tree/media. Whether or not the user can select them during the initial install is of no concern of Pungi's. Sorry, I wasn't clear. Not an interactive install. joe -- Fedora-buildsys-list mailing list Fedora-buildsys-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-buildsys-list
Re: Can pungi put packages in the iso that are not installed?
2008/12/23 Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com: On Tue, 2008-12-23 at 08:01 -0600, Joe Nall wrote: Sorry, I wasn't clear. Not an interactive install. Doesn't matter. Put the packages in the ks file you feed pungi and they'll wind up in the compose, regardless if they get used later. Would this require a second ks file that omits the package name, for the automated install, so that it will be on the media, but not actually installed by default? -Yaakov -- Fedora-buildsys-list mailing list Fedora-buildsys-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-buildsys-list
Re: Can pungi put packages in the iso that are not installed?
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Yaakov Nemoy loupgaroubl...@gmail.com wrote: Would this require a second ks file that omits the package name, for the automated install, so that it will be on the media, but not actually installed by default? The ks file that you compose from and the one that you install from aren't the same thing. Not sure what the question is. -- Fedora-buildsys-list mailing list Fedora-buildsys-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-buildsys-list
Re: Can pungi put packages in the iso that are not installed?
On Tue, 2008-12-23 at 14:53 -0500, Yaakov Nemoy wrote: 2008/12/23 Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com: On Tue, 2008-12-23 at 08:01 -0600, Joe Nall wrote: Sorry, I wasn't clear. Not an interactive install. Doesn't matter. Put the packages in the ks file you feed pungi and they'll wind up in the compose, regardless if they get used later. Would this require a second ks file that omits the package name, for the automated install, so that it will be on the media, but not actually installed by default? There is no requirement that the ks file you use to compose is the same ks file you use to install. In fact, them being so is somewhat silly, as if you have a local mirror, just do your installs over the network, instead of doing a compose and then installing from media. -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Fedora-buildsys-list mailing list Fedora-buildsys-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-buildsys-list
Re: Can pungi put packages in the iso that are not installed?
On Dec 23, 2008, at 1:55 PM, Jon Stanley wrote: On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Yaakov Nemoy loupgaroubl...@gmail.com wrote: Would this require a second ks file that omits the package name, for the automated install, so that it will be on the media, but not actually installed by default? The ks file that you compose from and the one that you install from aren't the same thing. Not sure what the question is. I was trying to avoid maintaining 2 ks files. I solved the problem by using sed to create an install ks from the pungi ks. joe -- Fedora-buildsys-list mailing list Fedora-buildsys-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-buildsys-list
Re: Can pungi put packages in the iso that are not installed?
On Dec 23, 2008, at 4:31 PM, Yaakov Nemoy wrote: 2008/12/23 Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com: On Tue, 2008-12-23 at 14:53 -0500, Yaakov Nemoy wrote: 2008/12/23 Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com: On Tue, 2008-12-23 at 08:01 -0600, Joe Nall wrote: Sorry, I wasn't clear. Not an interactive install. Doesn't matter. Put the packages in the ks file you feed pungi and they'll wind up in the compose, regardless if they get used later. Would this require a second ks file that omits the package name, for the automated install, so that it will be on the media, but not actually installed by default? There is no requirement that the ks file you use to compose is the same ks file you use to install. In fact, them being so is somewhat silly, as if you have a local mirror, just do your installs over the network, instead of doing a compose and then installing from media. I got the impression that Joe Nall was trying to use the same ks file. Hence i asked, so we could all be clear on the details. :) Old school testers like DVDs :) joe -- Fedora-buildsys-list mailing list Fedora-buildsys-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-buildsys-list
Re: Can pungi put packages in the iso that are not installed?
On Dec 23, 2008, at 3:50 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: On Tue, 2008-12-23 at 15:22 -0600, Joe Nall wrote: I was trying to avoid maintaining 2 ks files. I solved the problem by using sed to create an install ks from the pungi ks. Just curious, can I ask what output of pungi you're using and how you're doing the install? I have a package group @myapp-all that I want in the iso repo. I do not want the packages in this group prompted for or installed by anaconda. @myapp-all get installed after the first boot when some needed services are available (selinux-policy-mls and mcstransd). joe #!/bin/bash VERSION=`svnversion -n` NAME=MyApp BUILD=/var/tmp/pungi OS=$BUILD/$VERSION/`uname -i`/os/ ARGS=--destdir=$BUILD --bugurl=http://www.myapp.org/ --nosplitmedia -- nosource --name=$NAME --ver=$VERSION --force rm -rf $BUILD mkdir -p $BUILD pungi -c myapp.ks $ARGS -GCB # Customize boot menu and add remove @myapp-\* from first install cp myapp-install myapp-install.repo myapp.ks isolinux.cfg.patch $OS sed -e 's/^...@myapp-/#...@myapp-/' myapp.ks $OS/myapp.ks (cd $OS/isolinux sudo patch ../isolinux.cfg.patch) rm $OS/isolinux.cfg.patch pungi -c myapp.ks $ARGS --force -I -- Fedora-buildsys-list mailing list Fedora-buildsys-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-buildsys-list
[Bug 477371] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477371 --- Comment #4 from Victor Bogado bog...@bogado.net 2008-12-23 09:03:00 EDT --- The license is CC by attribution, I will do this as soon as possible. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 477371] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477371 --- Comment #5 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net 2008-12-23 09:20:03 EDT --- This license is in the approved list so it should not pose a problem. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 477044] [Tracker] Deploy new font packaging guidelines for Fedora 11
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[Bug 477440] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477440 Alexander Kahl ak...@iconmobile.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |CLOSED Resolution||NOTABUG --- Comment #2 from Alexander Kahl ak...@iconmobile.com 2008-12-23 10:03:17 EDT --- Files in question: $ rpm -qa php-ZendFramework\*|xargs -n1 rpm -ql|grep -E '\.(ttf|otf|pfb|pfa)$' /usr/share/php/Zend/tests/Zend/Pdf/_fonts/Vera.ttf /usr/share/php/Zend/tests/Zend/Pdf/_fonts/VeraBI.ttf /usr/share/php/Zend/tests/Zend/Pdf/_fonts/VeraBd.ttf /usr/share/php/Zend/tests/Zend/Pdf/_fonts/VeraIt.ttf /usr/share/php/Zend/tests/Zend/Pdf/_fonts/VeraMoBI.ttf /usr/share/php/Zend/tests/Zend/Pdf/_fonts/VeraMoBd.ttf /usr/share/php/Zend/tests/Zend/Pdf/_fonts/VeraMoIt.ttf /usr/share/php/Zend/tests/Zend/Pdf/_fonts/VeraMono.ttf /usr/share/php/Zend/tests/Zend/Pdf/_fonts/VeraSe.ttf /usr/share/php/Zend/tests/Zend/Pdf/_fonts/VeraSeBd.ttf (from php-ZendFramework-tests) These font files are part of Zend Framework's tests package and used to determine whether the PDF extension works correctly. They are identical to the ones in Fedora's bitstream-vera-fonts package, thus there are no licensing issues: /usr/share/fonts/bitstream-vera $ sha1sum *.ttf /tmp/sha /usr/share/php/Zend/tests/Zend/Pdf/_fonts $ sha1sum -c /tmp/sha VeraBd.ttf: OK VeraBI.ttf: OK VeraIt.ttf: OK VeraMoBd.ttf: OK VeraMoBI.ttf: OK VeraMoIt.ttf: OK VeraMono.ttf: OK VeraSeBd.ttf: OK VeraSe.ttf: OK Vera.ttf: OK If you still consider this a bug, we can either patch the source code (heavily discouraged) or symlink the files from bitstream-vera-fonts and create a dependency on the package; in either case, please reopen this bug report. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 477044] [Tracker] Deploy new font packaging guidelines for Fedora 11
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477044 Bug 477044 depends on bug 477440, which changed state. Bug 477440 Summary: Please convert to new font packaging guidelines https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477440 What|Old Value |New Value Status|CLOSED |ASSIGNED Resolution|NOTABUG | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 477440] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477440 Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords||Reopened Status|CLOSED |ASSIGNED Resolution|NOTABUG | --- Comment #3 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net 2008-12-23 10:57:00 EDT --- Please symlink from the Vera (or better) DejaVu packages -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 477606] RFE: warn on fonts installed outside %_fontbasedir
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477606 Ville Skyttä ville.sky...@iki.fi changed: What|Removed |Added Flag|needinfo? | --- Comment #5 from Ville Skyttä ville.sky...@iki.fi 2008-12-23 12:28:55 EDT --- (In reply to comment #4) There was more than a month of public RFC when you could ask such questions (you were one of the handful of people explicitely CC-ed) In the mails that reached my inbox of that thread, I count total of 3 people who provided *any* opinions of the proposal: one voiced doubt about the usefulness of this, and two others concurred this sounds like severe overkill. The brief look I had into the proposal made me firmly agree with those opinions and I was pleased I did not have to dig more deeply into the proposal as several others were already raising the same concerns, and lost interest in the rest of the discussion after that, being (in retrospect, apparently mistakenly) assured that the existing opposition would result in it being cleaned up. For some reason the proposal was pushed through nevertheless, and now that you're asking people to spend their time adding support for it (without providing code/patches, not only here but in a couple of other bug reports as well), you seem annoyed at me just because I'm pointing out the issues you may run into down that road. That makes implementing it an even less interesting thing for me personally to consider spending my time on. Good luck finding others to do it. Anyway, you did not answer my question in comment 3 but placed a needinfo flag along with comment 4 - what is the info you're looking for, and from whom? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 477055] Please drop fonts spec template from rpmdevtools
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--- Comment #4 from Ville Skyttä ville.sky...@iki.fi 2008-12-23 13:17:56 EDT
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(In reply to comment #2)
There are two templates because reviews show there are two different use cases
and they really are different patterns that do not fit in a single template
I understand that. In comment 1 (the Suggestion: part to point 1) I outlined
how rpmdevtools could adapt to that and do the right thing. Could you comment
on that? This is really the crucial point - if it can't be sanely done, the
rest of the points are pretty much moot as in that case there's not much at all
rpmdevtools can do with the new font templates.
2) Also, seems that what rpmdev-newspec would replace in the templates
contained in fontpackages would no longer be the right thing; at least
FONTNAME has changed to FONTNAME
I've tried to keep things consistent and put stuff to be replaced in brackets
yes. If there is some other convention that would make it easier for you,
please say so.
All that matters is that rpmdev-newspec knows what to look for, and what it is
looking for is a placeholder that can be assumed to be robustly
sed-replaceable, and that it does not change between spec template revisions.
Please just confirm what it'll be (see Suggestion for point 2 in comment 1).
The rpm devs have announced they'll be internalising buildroot creation so
anything that tries to manipulate it from scripts is doomed mid-term anyway.
And %{buildroot} is both valid and more consistent with the rest of the
template
This has nothing to do with what sets the value of buildroot or how, and
nothing to do with modifying it. This is purely a stylistic issue which people
have very strong opinions on: some people prefer to write specfiles using shell
style variables, others rpm macro style. For example whether one wants to
write rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT or rm -rf %{buildroot} in specfiles. We have
support for honoring the user's preference in place in newspec if the templates
are written using the shell style variable syntax - by writing them in macro
style that preference is taken away (or additional code would need be added
that does it the other way around, but I'm not sure if it can be robustly
done). Again, see Suggestion for point 3 in comment 1 for more details how
this works currently.
For the rest if it's too much of a problem to you I can put
the templates somewhere else in the filesystem.
If we can't get rpmdevtools to do anything useful with the templates from
fontpackages, it makes no sense to put them in rpmdevtools' dir structure,
that'd just add confusion. But I don't think there's a reason to go there -
all it takes to support regressionless transition to the new font spec
templates from rpmdevtools POV is outlined in questions in this comment (and
comment 1) above.
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[Bug 477055] Please drop fonts spec template from rpmdevtools
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--- Comment #5 from Ville Skyttä ville.sky...@iki.fi 2008-12-23 13:46:42 EDT
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To summarize, in a nutshell, what I could work from is if I get:
a) Confirmation that there are two font spec templates,
/etc/rpmdevtools/spectemplate-fonts-{multi,single}.spec, and this is how it's
going to stay in the foreseeable future.
b) Confirmation that the token in both of the above to be replaced with the
font basename is exactly FONTNAME (sans quotes), and this is how it's
going to stay in the foreseeable future.
Please provide answers to these ASAP, we're starting to be a bit in a hurry to
get the next rpmdevtools out.
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[Bug 471538] FontForge Abort Opening some .otf files
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=471538 --- Comment #6 from Kevin Fenzi ke...@tummy.com 2008-12-23 16:58:45 EDT --- ok. Upstream has identified and fixed this (at least it works for me now) Can you try the scratch build at: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1019271 and confirm it now works for you? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 477435] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477435 Caolan McNamara caol...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |MODIFIED --- Comment #4 from Caolan McNamara caol...@redhat.com 2008-12-23 18:12:59 EDT --- Lets give this a go, rough testing shows that our fontconfig support doesn't do anything like filter it out (under any assumption that it couldn't possibly exist outside of the current location) so whack it into the normal font area. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 477044] [Tracker] Deploy new font packaging guidelines for Fedora 11
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[Bug 477432] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477432 Wart w...@kobold.org changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |CLOSED Resolution||RAWHIDE --- Comment #2 from Wart w...@kobold.org 2008-12-24 01:14:38 EDT --- The single font file in the package has been replaced with a symlink to the font file and a dependency on the font package was added. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
Re: New font packaging guidelines
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 03:08:21PM +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Le lundi 22 décembre 2008 à 14:56 +0200, Sarantis Paskalis a écrit : On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 05:13:35PM +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Hi Sarantis, As some of you may know, after more than a month of consultation, feedback and tweaking new font packaging guidelines have been approved by FESCO. Two of my packages are TeX fonts (tetex-font-kerkis and tetex-font-cm-lgc), which contain .pfb files (postscript type 1 from what I could find out). We've known for quite a while TEX had a problem with fonts installation and licensing. However repoquery unearthed many non-font packages that shipped fonts (not only TEX packages, and a lot more than I expected :(), so I'm going to write a general answer if you permit. 1. The target font management stack on Fedora is fontconfig. It has “near universal” support including emacs-side¹. 2. If your app is fontconfig-aware you just need to package the fonts it needs as a normal guidelines-compliant font package. Fontconfig will then locate them for your app no matter on how the font files are named or renamed. 3. If your app is not fontconfig-aware, you should politely remind your upstream it has a problem. 4. If your app is not fontconfig-aware, and there is no solution upstream in the short term, you still need to package the fonts using the normal Fedora fonts packaging guidelines. And then either patch your app to look for its fonts in the guidelines-compliant location or package a set of symlinks pointing to this location. 5. The preferred way to package fonts is to locate their original font upstream and package the original font release in a separate fonts-only package. 6. However, for fonts that are bundled in a software package with no other form of release, or fonts which have some additional non-standard stuff bundled with them (such as TEX packages), I don't think anyone will complain too loudly if you package them as subpackage(s) of your main package. As long as the subpackage(s) are clean, guidelines-compliant, and can be used by Fedora users without dragging with them your app or TEX or other non-general-purpose stuff. For example, for a “tex-foo” TEX package, you could have: tex-foo-fonts-fontname1 (normal font subpackage #1) tex-foo-fonts-fontname2 (normal font subpackage #2) […] tex-foo-fonts-common(common font subpackage that owns the fonts dirs and the fonts-licensing files²) tex-foo (main TEX package that depends on the tex-foo-fonts packages, includes symlinks to the font files in standard locations and other TEX stuff) The subpackaging logic is pretty much the same as in the spectemplate-fonts-multi.spec template included in fontpackages-devel http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fonts_spec_template_for_multiple_fonts Please note that the current guidelines say that font packagers: “SHOULD package each font family separately, and avoid font collections that mix fonts of different history, licensing, or origin”³ There is some wiggle room between SHOULD and MUST, and it has posed problems in the past six months, so I've pushed the simpler http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/Font_package_splitting_rules_(2008-12-21)#New_wording FPC-side yesterday. I hope that answers all your questions. ¹ After a period of “‘utter luddites’ shock” to quote a well-known xorg contributor http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.xorg/34322/focus=34334 ² of course if you're shipping a single font family, that requires a single font subpackage, there's no need to separate directory and licensing handling in a -common subpackage. Just create a single tex-foo-fonts-fontname in that case. ³ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Guidelines#Avoid_bundling_of_fonts_in_other_packages Thanks for the really detailed guidelines. My packages are just TeX fonts (and their TeX related configuration), so my actions boil down to moving the actual font files under /usr/share/fonts and symlink them to their original directory. (I also have to rename the package but that is orthogonal to fonts and more related to TeX stuff after tetex EOL.) Thanks again, -- Sarantis ___ Fedora-fonts-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-list
fedora infra rsa key submitted
Hi, I am new joined the fedora infrastructure group. I am going through few of the links in the site to get a feel of the work and people. I have submitted my .ssh_rsa_key.pub from the site itself on the day I registered myself. Please someone can let me know further proceedings from here onwards, any intimations/pointers references on this. Cheers. ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
RE: FC10 does not boot when HDD moved to another machine
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Frank Millman wrote: I did a search for '*grub*' on my system. It found a few files. The following could be relevant - 1. /etc/sysconfig/grub boot=/dev/sda forcelba=0 2. /sbin/grub-install I ran it, but it asked for an install_device. I prefer not to guess, so I did not try any further. For the record, 'ls /boot' looks like this - config-2.6.27.7-134.fc10.i686 initrd-2.6.27.7-134.fc10.i686.img System.map-2.6.27.7-134.fc10.i686 vmlinuz-2.6.27.7-134.fc10.i686 If I type 'umount /boot', it says '/boot: not mounted'. Is that expected? As mentioned in my reply to Paulo, /etc/fstab has changed. It used to contain an entry for /boot, but now it does not. I am not sure when it changed, but I think it was when I selected Install/Upgrade on the second machine. I got a warning message and did not proceed, but a couple of things seem to have changed after that. OK - this makes things interesting. Grub know where to find the /boot partition, but booting in the rescue mode does not find it. (It uses /etc/fstab to mount your other partitions.) The reason you have files in /boot is because they were written there when it was not being used as a mount point. If you get the /boot partition mounted on /boot, you will no longer see them. I suspect that what you need to do is add the UUID=b6c62c5a-0afb-4258-a726-6a377a6f3b9e /boot ext3 defaults 1 2 line back into /etc/fstab, and then mount /boot. If that works, then you will want to unmount it again, and copy the file that will be there to a temporary location, remount /boot, and copy them back. After that, you should be able to move the drive to the second machine, boot from the rescue disk, and have the full /boot tree. You can then build the initrd and make the changes in the Grub menu we talked about. BRILLIANT! Thank you, Mikkel. I followed your instructions, and it worked exactly as you predicted. There were a couple of minor hurdles to overcome. I will document them here in case anyone else tries the same thing. I had to make the following changes to /etc/grub.conf - Before - timeout=0 hiddenmenu After - timeout=10 #hiddenmenu Then I could see the menu and select the alternative boot image. After moving the hard drive to the second machine and booting in rescue mode, /boot is *not* mounted. You have to type 'mount /boot' first. Otherwise mkinitrd writes the new image to the unmounted /boot point, and it will not be detected on a reboot. Rebooting on the new machine appeared to hang, but then I realised it was because the onboard graphics card is different. Luckily I could type Alt+F2 and get a text login screen, change /etc/inittab default from 5 to 3, and reboot in text mode. Then I could configure X. When booting the new machine, 'Starting udev' takes about 40 seconds. On the original machine it takes 5 seconds. I don't know if there is anything one can do about that. I have now moved the drive back to the original machine, so I did not test it thoroughly in the second machine, but as far as I could tell everything was working fine. Thank you very much indeed for all the assistance. Regards Frank -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
GPU chips vs Video Cards
Will the use of GPU chips eliminate the need for video cards and/or eliminate the security vulnerabilities that the video cards introduce into operating systems? Thanks. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Cheese
Sorry, it's the application menu I mean. There, an entry is automatically created when the package is installed. In the starting panel, one would have to manually create an entry. Sorry for the confusion I caused. Regards, Christoph -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Updating and installing packages without an internet connection
On Mon, 2008-12-22 at 12:49 -0800, suvayu ali wrote: I am getting a new desktop probably today, and is going to install F10 on it. However my problem is I don't have an internet connection at home. So is there a way to apply updates? I did find some suggestions in the archives. Most said to download all the updates onto some media and use rpm -Fvh *.rpm. Even if I overlook the size of the downloads, this won't work if I were to install new packages. How would dependency resolution work in that case? Is there any way I can find that out beforehand and download all the dependency pacakges as well? Yup. Install gnome-packagekit-extra and use the service pack creator[1] on a live CD. Richard. [1] http://www.packagekit.org/img/gpk-service-pack.png -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: backup of my / filesystem
Jerry Feldman wrote: I backup our system at work (500GB) using rsync. Our New York office runs rsync against my backup volume. Over the years I have found rsync to be a very reliable tool. I just got BackupPC to work on my system, after hours of torture. (Is this the worst documented Linux application?) Effectively, BackupPC is a GUI front-end to rsync. Once set up it seems quite impressive to me. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Eclipse not working on F10
I am having an issue with Eclipse failing to start on F10. Here is what I am getting when running from konsole... CompilerOracle: exclude org/eclipse/core/internal/dtree/DataTreeNode.forwardDeltaWith CompilerOracle: exclude org/eclipse/jdt/internal/compiler/lookup/ParameterizedMethodBinding.init CompilerOracle: exclude org/eclipse/cdt/internal/core/dom/parser/cpp/semantics/CPPTemplates.instantiateTemplate CompilerOracle: exclude org/eclipse/cdt/internal/core/pdom/dom/cpp/PDOMCPPLinkage.addBinding CompilerOracle: exclude org/python/pydev/editor/codecompletion/revisited/PythonPathHelper.isValidSourceFile CompilerOracle: exclude org/python/pydev/ui/filetypes/FileTypesPreferencesPage.getDottedValidSourceFiles then it just fails. Any ideas? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F9 and up: XDMCP support?
2008/12/22 Daniel B. Thurman d...@cdkkt.com: # cat /etc/gdm/custom.conf: # GDM configuration storage [xdmcp] Enable=True That needs to be true, not True. You also need gdm-2.24.1-4.fc10 which is in updates testing. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
vmware-server-console: Unable to connect to the MKS: Pipe: Write failed.
Hi, On my Fedora10-x86_64, vmware-server-console have this problem: Unable to connect to the MKS: Pipe: Write failed. I have resolve it with this command: [r...@lesca ~]# yum install libXtst.i386 Hope this help -- Dario Lesca d.le...@solinos.it -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Eclipse not working on F10
* Steven M. Parrish smparr...@shallowcreek.net [2008-12-23 09:06]:
I am having an issue with Eclipse failing to start on F10.
Try running with the -clean option. If that doesn't work, try moving
~/.eclipse out of the way: mv ~/.eclipse{,.bak20081223}; eclipse . If
*that* doesn't work, run with -consolelog -debug and paste the output
into a bug at bugzilla.redhat.com.
Thanks,
Andrew
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Re: Eclipse not working on F10
On Tuesday 23 December 2008 09:10:48 Andrew Overholt wrote:
* Steven M. Parrish smparr...@shallowcreek.net [2008-12-23 09:06]:
I am having an issue with Eclipse failing to start on F10.
Try running with the -clean option. If that doesn't work, try moving
~/.eclipse out of the way: mv ~/.eclipse{,.bak20081223}; eclipse . If
*that* doesn't work, run with -consolelog -debug and paste the output
into a bug at bugzilla.redhat.com.
Thanks,
Andrew
Thanks Andrew,
Turns out I there was a conflict between me running Eclipse x86_64 and the
default JRE I had installed was 32bit. Removed the 32bit JRE and set the
default to the 64bit one using alternatives --config java.
Now Eclipse is running great!
Steven
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Re: Eclipse not working on F10
On Tuesday 23 December 2008 09:10:48 Andrew Overholt wrote:
* Steven M. Parrish smparr...@shallowcreek.net [2008-12-23 09:06]:
I am having an issue with Eclipse failing to start on F10.
Try running with the -clean option. If that doesn't work, try moving
~/.eclipse out of the way: mv ~/.eclipse{,.bak20081223}; eclipse . If
*that* doesn't work, run with -consolelog -debug and paste the output
into a bug at bugzilla.redhat.com.
Thanks,
Andrew
Thanks for the suggestions. Nothing seemed to work so I created the bug
report.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477766
Steven
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Re: is KDE dead - did Gnome win?
Armin Moradi wrote: You mean the PolicyKit prompts? Santa is bringing you this review request. ;-) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477199 I'm doing the review, I think we can get this into Rawhide soon, and then we'll see for F10 and F9. Kevin Kofler Thanks! :D will it be pushed as an update to F10? or should we wait till F11? Probably coming with/near kde-4.2, when it lands in updates. -- Rex -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
F10 - something positive to say!
Traditionally the forums are filled with grumbles about things that don't work, and questions about how to work around some of those things that don't work as they should. However occasionally it is nice if someone says something positive about Fedora and sends a thank you to the people who devote so much time to making the new things happen at all and who then spend considerable time and effort in fixing the inevitable problems that will always occur when you create new stuff. Since F10 was released I have installed it on 4 systems with different hardware. One acts as a dns and dhcp server, and the others are a desktop and two laptops. All are running dovecot imap servers in a slightly non-standard way. Although I did have some frustrating times working around some issues mainly associated with SElinux due to some non-standard ways of doing things, I now have 4 systems running the way I want them to within my LAN, with no SElinux denials, and performing efficiently and seemingly faster than the F8 systems they replaced. These are now being used by family members who have had smiles on their faces when using the new systems. There are some new things yet to enthrall us like KDE4.2 before too long, and Thunderbird 3 on the way and I would like to thank all the developers and the testers who have brought Fedora to its current level. Fedora is ahead of the opposition and cutting edge - and mostly it now works and works well. I hope there are many silent Fedora users out there who would back me up on this! Have a great Christmas and I hope that the New Year brings us even better Fedora experiences. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/F10---something-positive-to-say%21-tp21146037p21146037.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
How to get screen resolution of 1440x900?
Hi, I have a Dell Latitude D620 laptop running Fedora 10 with an Intel 945GM graphics controller. My display is configured as an LCD Panel 1440x900. I would like to have that resolution, but system-config-display offers 1024x768 only. Using previous Fedora versions and 915resolution I had that mode in the past. I also have this mode under Windows. Any hints what I might research or reconfigure? Thanks, Jochen -- I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone. -- (Bjarne Stroustrup, http://www.research.att.com/~bs/bs_faq.html#really-say-that My guess: Nokia E50) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Sound problems with SELinux ? [SOLVED]
On Mon, 2008-12-22 at 15:33 -0500, William Case wrote: Hi Daniel; On Mon, 2008-12-22 at 14:36 -0500, Daniel J Walsh wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 William Case wrote: Hi; This probably more of a frustration question than an eventually solving it myself question. I couldn't get any sound -- I originally thought it was an Adobe Flash problem -- until I changed SELinux from enforcing to permissive. How do I make sound available to the user while still using SELinux enforcing? Check the /var/log/audit/audit.log file for AVC messages. I couldn't see anything pertinent; but that doesn't mean much. I have never used the audit.log before. I could be looking at something and not seeing it. Is this F10? Yes. See under my signature. I keep my program versions there for the main mailing lists I belong to. Somehow my 'Front' channel?? in Alsa mixer gui got turned off. By trial and error I learnt that if I fully turned on the volume for 'Front' I got my sound back. Why SELinux enforcing also affected it is still leaves me at a loss. New thread to follow. -- Regards Bill Fedora 10, Gnome 2.24.2 Evo.2.24.2, Emacs 22.2.1 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: move to fedora 8 from fedora 9
Adil Drissi wrote: Hi, Do you know a way to migrate to fedora 9 from fedora 8. I tried this: # yum install preupgrade # preupgrade but this gave me fedora 10 by default in the in,stallation gui. So please if you know how to upgrade from fedora 8 to 9 please let me know. Thank you one way would be to download the installation media for F9 CD or DVD and at the boot: prompt type 'linux upgrade' John Brier -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F10 - something positive to say!
Mike Cloaked wrote: Traditionally the forums are filled with grumbles about things that don't work, and questions about how to work around some of those things that don't work as they should. However occasionally it is nice if someone says something positive about Fedora and sends a thank you to the people who devote so much time to making the new things happen at all and who then spend considerable time and effort in fixing the inevitable problems that will always occur when you create new stuff. Since F10 was released I have installed it on 4 systems with different hardware. One acts as a dns and dhcp server, and the others are a desktop and two laptops. All are running dovecot imap servers in a slightly non-standard way. Although I did have some frustrating times working around some issues mainly associated with SElinux due to some non-standard ways of doing things, I now have 4 systems running the way I want them to within my LAN, with no SElinux denials, and performing efficiently and seemingly faster than the F8 systems they replaced. These are now being used by family members who have had smiles on their faces when using the new systems. There are some new things yet to enthrall us like KDE4.2 before too long, and Thunderbird 3 on the way and I would like to thank all the developers and the testers who have brought Fedora to its current level. Fedora is ahead of the opposition and cutting edge - and mostly it now works and works well. I hope there are many silent Fedora users out there who would back me up on this! Have a great Christmas and I hope that the New Year brings us even better Fedora experiences. Yes, I agree, that thanks should be given to hard working developers around the world wo do a lot of great things for the most part. Many have day jobs and are volunteering their work, with no pay, and for pure pleasure, which could be an oxymoron, in some cases. So many thanks are in order, for those who do quality work. The grumbling, gripes, etc. should be there - after all - who's gonna keep the pressure on them? Ha. I gotta laugh. Me thinks we need the good, the bad, and the ugly... as I believe that is nature's way and a balanced mix. Without pressure, would progress be stagnant, slower or Faster? Sometimes if one complains - the complainer would be so disgusted and end up fix the da*n thing themselves and hopefully offer a fix to the community - and in that case, it is a good thing? Hmm... well, it's something to think about. But nonetheless, have a good holiday! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to get screen resolution of 1440x900?
When the date was Tuesday 23 December 2008, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: I have a Dell Latitude D620 laptop running Fedora 10 with an Intel 945GM graphics controller. My display is configured as an LCD Panel 1440x900. I would like to have that resolution, but system-config-display offers 1024x768 only. Try: $ xrandr --output LVDS --mode 1440x900 -- Michael Iatrou (muaa) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Advice to an audiophobe ??
Hi; I have avoided sound technology most of my life. I have a 'tin ear' and most music just sounds to me like somebody talking in an annoying voice. However, recent problems with alsa mixer and/or pulseaudio has convinced me that the time has come to spend some time learning the rudiments of sound technology. So ... Can someone recommend a site or manual that explains things like: * What is the difference between alsa and pulseaudio? * Which should I choose for the Device: field? * What is the difference between Master, PCM, Front, Line-in, CD, PC-Speaker etc. ? * How is sound related to video ? * Why are there so many files associated with producing sound? * Etc., etc., etc.? ? I have googled, searched Wikipedia, read the PulseAudio documentation as well as Gnome Help. It all still leaves me befuddled -- either too simple or two technical. Once I try to throw in the concept of various 'codecs' I am lost. I am not asking for a personal explanation of the above questions (I have a bunch more) but all learning suggestions gratefully received. -- Regards Bill Fedora 10, Gnome 2.24.2 Evo.2.24.2, Emacs 22.2.1 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to get screen resolution of 1440x900?
Jochen Wiedmann wrote: Hi, I have a Dell Latitude D620 laptop running Fedora 10 with an Intel 945GM graphics controller. My display is configured as an LCD Panel 1440x900. I would like to have that resolution, but system-config-display offers 1024x768 only. Using previous Fedora versions and 915resolution I had that mode in the past. I also have this mode under Windows. Any hints what I might research or reconfigure? Thanks, Jochen on my laptop with Intel 965 chipset I can set the proper 1280x800 resolution of the display. I didn't have system-config-display installed.. but gnome-display-properties was installed.. Perhaps you can try that. In system-config-display did you try setting the monitor to Generic LCD 1440x900 or some other thing? Also look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log You can see if it is using the proper 'intel' driver and what the available modes are in my log file I can see that my hardware combination supports the following: (II) intel(0): Modeline 1280x800x59.9 71.00 1280 1328 1360 1440 800 803 809 823 -hsync -vsync (49.3 kHz) II) intel(0): Modeline 1024x768x60.0 65.00 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (48.4 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline 800x600x60.3 40.00 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync (37.9 kHz) (II) intel(0): Modeline 640x480x59.9 25.18 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 525 -hsync -vsync (31.5 kHz) those are some places to start looking. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: f10 no sound through usb headset
Nigel, Ok so here it goes: The system is a gateway desktop pc about 6 years old. cat /proc/asound/cards (without the usb headset plugged in: 0 [Intel ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel HDA Intel at 0x8830 irq 16 lsmod | grep snd (with usb headset not plugged in: snd_usb_audio 77696 0 snd_hda_intel 351124 2 snd_seq_dummy 6660 0 snd_seq_oss30364 0 snd_seq_midi_event 9600 1 snd_seq_oss snd_seq48576 5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event snd_pcm_oss42496 0 snd_mixer_oss 16896 1 snd_pcm_oss snd_pcm65924 3 snd_usb_audio,snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss snd_usb_lib17536 1 snd_usb_audio snd_rawmidi22528 1 snd_usb_lib snd_seq_device 10124 4 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_rawmidi snd_timer 22024 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm snd_page_alloc 11016 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm snd_hwdep 10500 2 snd_usb_audio,snd_hda_intel snd50616 17 snd_usb_audio,snd_hda_intel,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_usb_lib,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device,snd_timer,snd_hwdep soundcore 9416 1 snd cat /proc/asound/cards (with usb headset plugged in: 0 [Intel ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel HDA Intel at 0x8830 irq 16 1 [default]: USB-Audio - C-Media USB Headphone Set C-Media USB Headphone Set at usb-:00:1d.2-2.1.7, full speed lsmod | grep snd (with usb headset plugged in: snd_usb_audio 77696 0 snd_hda_intel 351124 2 snd_seq_dummy 6660 0 snd_seq_oss30364 0 snd_seq_midi_event 9600 1 snd_seq_oss snd_seq48576 5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event snd_pcm_oss42496 0 snd_mixer_oss 16896 1 snd_pcm_oss snd_pcm65924 3 snd_usb_audio,snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss snd_usb_lib17536 1 snd_usb_audio snd_rawmidi22528 1 snd_usb_lib snd_seq_device 10124 4 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_rawmidi snd_timer 22024 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm snd_page_alloc 11016 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm snd_hwdep 10500 2 snd_usb_audio,snd_hda_intel snd50616 17 snd_usb_audio,snd_hda_intel,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_usb_lib,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device,snd_timer,snd_hwdep soundcore 9416 1 snd And yes without the headset plugged and just the small external speakers plugged in, sound in gnome works fine. I can hear orca without a problem. -Original Message- From: Nigel Henry [mailto:cave.dnb2m9...@aliceadsl.fr] Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 12:23 PM To: fedora-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: f10 no sound through usb headset On Friday 19 December 2008 19:11, Don Raikes wrote: I have f10 installed and running fine on my gateway system, but I wanted to use my plantronics headset with it. I plugged in the headset and can see from the log that it is recognized, but I get no sound through the headset. Any thoughts appreciated. Hi Don. I'm not too up to speed on USB audio apps, apart from my USB midi keyboard, but I'll have a go to start things off. Is this on a laptop, or a PC? Which make, and model? I assume that the sounds are working on F10, apart from the headset problem. With the headset unplugged, post back the output from the commands below. cat /proc/asound/cards /sbin/lsmod | grep snd If you have a laptop, with built in webcam, and mike, you will probably see lsmod showing the snd-usb-audio module loaded, and the output from, cat /proc/asound/cards will also show a card entry (perhaps card1, or card2) for a USB device (a webcam's mike perhaps). Anyway. Post back the output from running the commands above, and we'll take it from there. All the best. Nigel. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
gutenprint
Does anyone know if the new gutenprint 5.2.1 package is going to be made available to Fedora soon? -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/gutenprint-tp21147025p21147025.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F10 - something positive to say!
Hi, I don't see it like this - on this forum I have the impression that people ask how things work and express their frustrations - if there are - in a rather clear fashion. the purpose of the list is to find answers to questions - the shoulder taps like yours and this one are expressed by detailed error descriptions with the result that the software gets better. What else does a developer want? I'm so totally new to Linux that I'm a silent reader on the list. If I'm stuck I go to the forum proper and get valuable answers either from other answers or from more experienced subscribers. As a total newbie to Fedora and Linux (but a com user for over 20 years) I can only say that I was amazed when I started up Fedora 10 for the first time on my brandnew laptop. A lot of things worked out of the box and so much faster than under win xp (subjective evaluation). So I will stick around and use Fedora permanently. I'm just waiting for the adaptation of some professional software to Fedora 10 (the Planet CCRMA package) and then there will be no turning back. Best Jurgen On Dec 23, 2008, at 11:55 PM, fedora-list-requ...@redhat.com wrote: Traditionally the forums are filled with grumbles about things that don't work, and questions about how to work around some of those things that don't work as they should. However occasionally it is nice if someone says something positive about Fedora and sends a thank you to the people who devote so much time to making the new things happen at all and who then spend considerable time and effort in fixing the inevitable problems that will always occur when you create new stuff. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Whatever happened to kprint?
Under kde3 I used to use kprint and now it seems to have disappeared. Is there a replacement? Basically, how do I print a doc with all of the fine controls on a per doc basis without it? Do I have to use the command line options in the lp command? -- Time flies like the wind. Fruit flies like a banana. Stranger things have .0. happened but none stranger than this. Does your driver's license say Organ ..0 Donor?Black holes are where God divided by zero. Listen to me! We are all- 000 individuals! What if this weren't a hypothetical question? steveo at syslang.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: gutenprint
Original Message Subject: gutenprint From: Mike Cloaked mike.cloa...@gmail.com To: fedora-list@redhat.com Date: 12/23/2008 10:12 AM Does anyone know if the new gutenprint 5.2.1 package is going to be made available to Fedora soon? Yes, it is available in updates-testing[1]. Please install it and leave karma[2] about it. [1] # yum --enablerepo=updates-testing update gutenprint [2] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F10/FEDORA-2008-10872 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: move to fedora 8 from fedora 9
Adil Drissi wrote: Hi, Do you know a way to migrate to fedora 9 from fedora 8. I tried this: # yum install preupgrade # preupgrade but this gave me fedora 10 by default in the in,stallation gui. So please if you know how to upgrade from fedora 8 to 9 please let me know. Thank you I have not tried this, so try it AT YOUR OWN RISK! In /usr/share/preupgrade/releases.list, try adding preupgrade-ok=True to the [Fedora 9 (Sulphur)] section. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: FC10 does not boot when HDD moved to another machine
Frank Millman wrote: BRILLIANT! Thank you, Mikkel. I followed your instructions, and it worked exactly as you predicted. No brilliant - I should have caught it the first time you posted the old and new fstab! Mikkel -- Unfortunately for us, common sense is not very common. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Whatever happened to kprint?
Steven W. Orr wrote: Under kde3 I used to use kprint and now it seems to have disappeared. Yes, an unfortunate casualty of up'ing to kde4. kprint hasn't been updated/ported yet. -- Rex -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Whatever happened to kprint?
Steven W. Orr wrote: Under kde3 I used to use kprint and now it seems to have disappeared. Not in kde4, but kprinter is still provided by kde3-related runtime pkg: kdebase3 -- Rex -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: gutenprint
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 10:24:22 -0600, Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com wrote: Original Message Subject: gutenprint From: Mike Cloaked mike.cloa...@gmail.com To: fedora-list@redhat.com Date: 12/23/2008 10:12 AM Does anyone know if the new gutenprint 5.2.1 package is going to be made available to Fedora soon? Yes, it is available in updates-testing[1]. Please install it and leave karma[2] about it. I seem to have 5.2.2. I happened to have some interest in this since I just noticed that the foomatic driver for my printer (Epson PS 870) seems to have broken since the last time I tried to print something and switching to a gutenprint driver fixed things for me. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: PackageKit has eaten my system (again!)
Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:53:04 +0100 DB freddog...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Message: 9 Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 17:03:48 -0700 From: Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com Subject: Re: PackageKit has eaten my system (again!) To: fedora-list@redhat.com Message-ID: 20081221170348.42475...@ohm.scrye.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 22:13:46 + Anne Wilson an...@kde.org wrote: On Sunday 21 December 2008 22:00:16 DB wrote: [d...@localhost ~]$ rpm -qi pygpgme package pygpgme is not installed [d...@localhost ~]$ rpm -qi python-iniparse package python-iniparse is not installed [d...@localhost ~]$ Is there a way to tell rpm to go off and search a specific repo? no. Rpm only acts on specific packages. If they are not installed 'yum install packagename' should pull them in - and you can list both packages in one command. Except that he is trying to install yum. ;) I tried rpm --whatprovides yum but that evidently is not acceptable! It's not apparent from the help file, but I think the command is 'rpm -q whatprovides ' but I don't think that would have helped in this situation. I'd try yum install pygpgme python-iniparse yum No yum installed there for him. ;) Dave: Try the following: rpm -ivh http://mirrors.tummy.com/pub/fedora.redhat.com/fedora/linux/updates/9/i386.newkey//yum-3.2.20-5.fc9.noarch.rpm http://mirrors.tummy.com/pub/fedora.redhat.com/fedora/linux/releases/9/Everything/i386/os//Packages/pygpgme-0.1-8.fc9.i386.rpm http://mirrors.tummy.com/pub/fedora.redhat.com/fedora/linux/releases/9/Everything/i386/os//Packages/python-iniparse-0.2.3-3.fc9.noarch.rpm All on one big long line. ;) Not sure if there are further deps, but hopefully that will get yum installed for you. kevin Thanks Kevin.. In the order you listed the rpms, the yum failed needing pygpgme So I tried installing them t'other way around: [r...@localhost ~]# rpm -ivh http://mirrors.tummy.com/pub/fedora.redhat.com/fedora/linux/releases/9/Everything/i386/os//Packages/pygpgme-0.1-8.fc9.i386.rpm http://mirrors.tummy.com/pub/fedora.redhat.com/fedora/linux/releases/9/Everything/i386/os//Packages/python-iniparse-0.2.3-3.fc9.noarch.rpm http://mirrors.tummy.com/pub/fedora.redhat.com/fedora/linux/updates/9/i386.newkey//yum-3.2.20-5.fc9.noarch.rpm Retrieving http://mirrors.tummy.com/pub/fedora.redhat.com/fedora/linux/releases/9/Everything/i386/os//Packages/pygpgme-0.1-8.fc9.i386.rpm Retrieving http://mirrors.tummy.com/pub/fedora.redhat.com/fedora/linux/releases/9/Everything/i386/os//Packages/python-iniparse-0.2.3-3.fc9.noarch.rpm Retrieving http://mirrors.tummy.com/pub/fedora.redhat.com/fedora/linux/updates/9/i386.newkey//yum-3.2.20-5.fc9.noarch.rpm error: Failed dependencies: libgpgme.so.11 is needed by pygpgme-0.1-8.fc9.i386 libgpgme.so.11(GPGME_1.0) is needed by pygpgme-0.1-8.fc9.i386 [r...@localhost ~]# Any idea where the so.11 files might be?? (or how with my limited knowledge of the remnants of my system, I should go about finding the deps??)) You also need: http://mirrors.tummy.com/pub/fedora.redhat.com/fedora/linux/releases/9/Everything/i386/os//Packages/gpgme-1.1.6-3.fc9.i386.rpm it sounds like. Thanks again Dave kevin Thanks again Kevin It seems that each time you give me another lead, rpm wants another 2 or 3 files.. It'd be alright if I could find a readable list of what is required to install an rpm! Dave -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F10 - something positive to say!
On Tuesday 23 December 2008 08:11:27 Mike Cloaked wrote: Traditionally the forums are filled with grumbles about things that don't work, and questions about how to work around some of those things that don't work as they should. However occasionally it is nice if someone says something positive about Fedora and sends a thank you to the people who devote so much time to making the new things happen at all and who then spend considerable time and effort in fixing the inevitable problems that will always occur when you create new stuff. Since F10 was released I have installed it on 4 systems with different hardware. One acts as a dns and dhcp server, and the others are a desktop and two laptops. All are running dovecot imap servers in a slightly non-standard way. Although I did have some frustrating times working around some issues mainly associated with SElinux due to some non-standard ways of doing things, I now have 4 systems running the way I want them to within my LAN, with no SElinux denials, and performing efficiently and seemingly faster than the F8 systems they replaced. These are now being used by family members who have had smiles on their faces when using the new systems. There are some new things yet to enthrall us like KDE4.2 before too long, and Thunderbird 3 on the way and I would like to thank all the developers and the testers who have brought Fedora to its current level. Fedora is ahead of the opposition and cutting edge - and mostly it now works and works well. I hope there are many silent Fedora users out there who would back me up on this! Have a great Christmas and I hope that the New Year brings us even better Fedora experiences. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/F10---something-positive-to-say%21-tp21146037p2114603 7.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. I'll second that, Fedora 10 rocks ! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: GPU chips vs Video Cards
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 2:54 AM, Dave Feustel dfeus...@mindspring.com wrote: Will the use of GPU chips eliminate the need for video cards and/or eliminate the security vulnerabilities that the video cards introduce into operating systems? Thanks. No. Similar to what is already on the market. You have integrated video on many motherboards but still have a market for high performance (gamers, etc.) video. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Cheese
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 3:24 AM, Christoph Unger Sorry, it's the application menu I mean. I can't reproduce the problem on my F10 system. So I'm at a loss. The menu entries get added and removed as I would expect. Do you see it with any other package? For example if you install gpodder you should get a menu entry in Sound/Video and if you uninstall gpodder that menu entry should be removed as well. -jef -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: PackageKit has eaten my system (again!)
On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:11:39 +0100 DB freddog...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: ...snip... Thanks again Kevin It seems that each time you give me another lead, rpm wants another 2 or 3 files.. It'd be alright if I could find a readable list of what is required to install an rpm! Well, yum solves this problem, but sadly you are trying to install it. ;( You can look in the package directories (the same ones the other packges are in) and pull down the likely packages and add them to your rpm command line. If you have another machine with yum-utils you can use 'yumdownloader --url packagename' to get a url to use to download to the affected machine. Dave kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re[2]: Unable to login after latest FC10 updates (i386 on Dell GX270)
Hello Janez, Sunday, December 21, 2008, 1:00:27 PM, you wrote: I have the same problem on an Dell Latitude D600 with an ati chipset. There is no text or icons. i can click on the screen an things happen but there is no icons buttons or text just grey and white windows. One more thing i forgot to mention. I did an yum uprate yesterday and with other things i also updated x server My Latitude D810 was not affected by the original bug, but your report means that I'll be applying no further undates until the GX270 is working again. I opened the following bug for the GX270 X-related bug(s). https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=476578 There are 2 iterations of Xorg.0.log files attached. The first is from the original problem. That had some d-bus problems that were solved by the latest PolicyKit update, but the underlying X-related problems remained. Hopefully Ajax can analyze/fix this one sometime soon. Al -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to Restart the service sshd in Fedora Linux System ?
Jyotishmaan Ray wrote: Please tell me whose permissions should be 700, please name the files whose permissions I must set to 700, and also let me know if anuthing lese has to be done in order to execute the ssh command. My set up is as follows: The /etc/ssh directory is owned by root, group of root and have 755 permissions (rwxrw-rw-). The files IN /etc/ssh are all be owned by root, group of root with 500 permissions (rw---) EXCEPT ssh_config and any *.pub files. Those have 544 permissions (rw-r--r--). In _your_ home directory, the .ssh directory is owned by you with your group and have 700 permissions (rwx--). The files in it should be owned by you with your group and have 500 permissions (rw---) except any *.pub files, which can have 544 permissions (rw-r--r--). Really, since the directory can only be read by you, all files could be 544 (rw-r--r--). ssh really is worried about someone other than you writing to those files. --- On Mon, 12/22/08, Aaron Konstam akons...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: Aaron Konstam akons...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: How to Restart the service sshd in Fedora Linux System ? To: jyotishm...@yahoo.com, Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Monday, December 22, 2008, 9:26 PM On Mon, 2008-12-22 at 05:06 -0800, Jyotishmaan Ray wrote: Dear All FEDORA Users, I am a new bir in fedora linux system as administrator. Please tell me one thing. In my fedora linux os server, i am not able to sshd service . The thing is that, once I had to change the permissions of the files just in order to avoid the other users to explore the system, using chmod command. However, I have immediately changed the permissons again back. Soon after that I could not log on to the fedora server systm using the ssh serverhostname username command. When tried to run sshd service using service sshd restart, I got the folloeing errors shown below:- Permissions 0755 for '/etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key' are too open. It is recommended that your private key files are NOT accessible by others. This private key will be ignored. bad permissions :ignore key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key Could not load host key : /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key Disabling protocol version 2. Could not load host key sshd: no hostkeys available --exiting Please immedialtely let me know, what to fix in order to restart the service sshd. Permissions should be 700. -- -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer ri...@nerd.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - Never put off 'til tommorrow what you can forget altogether! - -- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F10 - something positive to say!
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 10:11 AM, Mike Cloaked mike.cloa...@gmail.com wrote: Traditionally the forums are filled with grumbles about things that don't work, and questions about how to work around some of those things that don't work as they should. However occasionally it is nice if someone says something positive about Fedora and sends a thank you to the people who devote so much time to making the new things happen at all and who then spend considerable time and effort in fixing the inevitable problems that will always occur when you create new stuff. Since F10 was released I have installed it on 4 systems with different hardware. One acts as a dns and dhcp server, and the others are a desktop and two laptops. All are running dovecot imap servers in a slightly non-standard way. Although I did have some frustrating times working around some issues mainly associated with SElinux due to some non-standard ways of doing things, I now have 4 systems running the way I want them to within my LAN, with no SElinux denials, and performing efficiently and seemingly faster than the F8 systems they replaced. These are now being used by family members who have had smiles on their faces when using the new systems. There are some new things yet to enthrall us like KDE4.2 before too long, and Thunderbird 3 on the way and I would like to thank all the developers and the testers who have brought Fedora to its current level. Fedora is ahead of the opposition and cutting edge - and mostly it now works and works well. I hope there are many silent Fedora users out there who would back me up on this! Have a great Christmas and I hope that the New Year brings us even better Fedora experiences. -- I have to agree that this is one of the most solid Fedora releases in a long time. Certainly since selinux was intergrated it's the first one in which I have not had to disable it (so far) for one reason or another. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to get screen resolution of 1440x900?
Petrus de Calguarium wrote: I am in the same boat. I could be mistaken, but I thought this was part of kernel mode setting. If I understand correctly, to enable modelines not supported by the bios (hence, formerly, 915resolution), the kernel modesetting must work, and that is not sheduled to be until kernel-2.6.29 for Intel graphics. Someone please correct me, as I am also getting tired of waiting and waiting and... No, the X11 modesetting should also work. The old driver which used the BIOS for modesetting isn't used anymore, all current modesetting implementations, both the X11 one and the kernel one, do the work on their own. I don't know why it isn't offering you the correct resolution. You can hardcode it in xorg.conf. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Got networking, now missing hardware 3D graphics
Aside: I can not remember a Red Hat or a Fedora release that has given me these kinds of fits. I'm sure they have but... Must have been a while. To quickly recap the situation. I started by installing F10 from DVD, and the networking aspect declined to function. Two reinstalls later, and much fussing and fiddling, networking came up on its own with Network Manager on the first boot post install. What changed is a wonderful question that I have no clue about. On to the next steps (obviously) This is an old machine, and has an nVidia GeForce FX5500 video card in an AGP slot. I recognize the proprietary nature of nVidia's drivers, so it was off to RPMfusion to get the 173.X drivers/stuff. After much mucking about, I finally got the nvidia driver installed such that I could get something other than 640x280 (yuck!), but there is no acceleration for OpenGL like there is supposed to be. The error message from one application includes the phrase: Could not create GL context. Besides my mind, what am I missing here? Or what do I need to post to find out what I'm missing? Or HALP! Thanks in advance for the assistance -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: PackageKit has eaten my system (again!)
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 9:14 AM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: Well, yum solves this problem, but sadly you are trying to install it. ;( You can look in the package directories (the same ones the other packges are in) and pull down the likely packages and add them to your rpm command line. If you have another machine with yum-utils you can use 'yumdownloader --url packagename' to get a url to use to download to the affected machine. Do we provide a network enabled rescue environment with yum available off of install media or some such that would make this easier? -jef -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
system restore from a cron backup
Hi All;
I've setup a cron backup script to backup my Fedora 10 laptop - mostly in case
a new yum update breaks my system.
I'm currently excluding /proc but when the rsync script hits the /sys
directory I get lots of read errors like this:
sys/module/vmmon/initstate
rsync: read errors mapping /sys/module/vmmon/initstate: No data available
(61)
sys/module/vmmon/refcnt
rsync: read errors mapping /sys/module/vmmon/refcnt: No data available (61)
sys/module/vmmon/srcversion
rsync: read errors mapping /sys/module/vmmon/srcversion: No data available
(61)
Questions:
- should I exclude /sys from my rsync backup ?
- Is it safe to restore my system without restoring /proc and /sys ?
- If I do need to restore can I simply do an rsync like this:
rsync -va /backup-location /system-location
(i.e. rsync -va /stage/backup/etc /etc)
Will rsync overwrite the files say in /etc with the backed up files even if the
current /etc files are newer than the backed up files.
Here's my backup script if it helps:
# cat run_rsync.sh
#!/bin/bash
for I in `cat dirlist`
do
echo [$I]
echo ==
rsync -av /${I} /stage/backup
done
and here's the dirlist file:
# cat dirlist
bin
boot
dev
docs
download
etc
home
lib
lib64
lost+found
media
mnt
opt
root
sbin
selinux
srv
sys
tmp
usr
var
as always, thanks in advance...
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Re: How to get screen resolution of 1440x900?
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 04:32:48PM +0100, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: Hi, I have a Dell Latitude D620 laptop running Fedora 10 with an Intel 945GM graphics controller. My display is configured as an LCD Panel 1440x900. I would like to have that resolution, but system-config-display offers 1024x768 only. Using previous Fedora versions and 915resolution I had that mode in the past. I also have this mode under Windows. Any hints what I might research or reconfigure? Thanks, Jochen I've been running F9 at 1440x900 for several months. I didn't have to do anything to get that resolution. Suse 11.0, on the other hand, supports 1440x1050 which my monitor doesn't support, so I run Suse at 1280x1024. OpenBSD doesn't support 1440x900 either. It appears to be a software driver issue. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 10 ctf-alt-F2
It might be worth reading the thread at http://mailman.lug.org.uk/pipermail/york/2008-December/002335.html to get some additional background to the OP's problem with graphics -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Fedora-10-ctf-alt-F2-tp20845058p21149699.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: system restore from a cron backup
Kevin Kempter wrote:
Hi All;
I've setup a cron backup script to backup my Fedora 10 laptop - mostly in case
a new yum update breaks my system.
I'm currently excluding /proc but when the rsync script hits the /sys
directory I get lots of read errors like this:
sys/module/vmmon/initstate
rsync: read errors mapping /sys/module/vmmon/initstate: No data available
(61)
sys/module/vmmon/refcnt
rsync: read errors mapping /sys/module/vmmon/refcnt: No data available (61)
sys/module/vmmon/srcversion
rsync: read errors mapping /sys/module/vmmon/srcversion: No data available
(61)
Questions:
- should I exclude /sys from my rsync backup ?
Yes, you should exclude /sys, /proc (they're created on the fly by
the kernel...they're not real directories) and /dev.
- Is it safe to restore my system without restoring /proc and /sys ?
Yes, they're created by the kernel at boot time.
- If I do need to restore can I simply do an rsync like this:
rsync -va /backup-location /system-location
(i.e. rsync -va /stage/backup/etc /etc)
Will rsync overwrite the files say in /etc with the backed up files even if the
current /etc files are newer than the backed up files.
Those last two questions are related. If you specify -u as well
(rsync -vau /stage/backup/etc /etc), newer files on the receiver (/etc
in your cited case) won't be overwritten. If you're running SELinux,
have a looksee at the rsync_selinux man page, too.
Here's my backup script if it helps:
# cat run_rsync.sh
#!/bin/bash
for I in `cat dirlist`
do
echo [$I]
echo ==
rsync -av /${I} /stage/backup
done
and here's the dirlist file:
# cat dirlist
bin
boot
dev
docs
download
etc
home
lib
lib64
lost+found
media
mnt
opt
root
sbin
selinux
srv
sys
tmp
usr
var
as always, thanks in advance...
If you have the space in your backup directory and you want to back up
the whole system, I'd just:
rsync -avu --exclude-from=/etc/backup-exclude / /stage/backup
and put the directories you DON'T want backed up in /etc/backup-exclude:
/sys
/proc
/dev
That's just my opinion, I could be wrong.
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Re: Fedora 10 ctf-alt-F2
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 9:53 AM, Don Levey fedora-l...@the-leveys.us wrote: This means that I must always have at least one Gnome session active, and I must use that as my control session. It also seems that there's a mixed metaphor in that the first X session is F1 but the rest start at F7. Its only a mixed metaphor in that you are relying on keyboard shortcuts which encode specific virtual terminals to specific key mappings. This metaphor breaks down quickly once you start doing anything dynamic. Have 3 or 4 fast user switching users log in and logout in varying orders and even if the the X sessions were mapped to high ttys they would not be in a consistent ordering as users bounce on and off the system. Its quite analogous to how me moved from fixed block device naming to udev dynamic block device creation. Don't be shocked if we move into a future where the 5 or 6 mingetty's we start by default now are also started dynamically in the future and are given the next available tty instead of being on tty2-tt6 from boot up. -jef -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: backup of my / filesystem
Kevin Kempter-2 wrote: I'm looking for a clean way to backup my laptop in part so before I apply any updates I have a clean backup to revert to if needed. I have a / and /home filesystems in order to backup before I run a set of updates from yum I suspect I need to backup / separately this way I dont need to restore my 22Gig of documents in /home if an update breaks something. I have used a script for some years which is based on rsync. I will attach the file and you can adapt it to your needs if you like it. Note that this sends the backup to a usb drive that is attached to the machine. it is relatively straightforward to adapt it to work across a LAN or also across the internet to push or pull updates to/from remote machines. http://www.nabble.com/file/p21150306/backall%257E backall%7E -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/backup-of-my---filesystem-tp21117673p21150306.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 10 ctf-alt-F2
Jeff Spaleta wrote: On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 9:53 AM, Don Levey fedora-l...@the-leveys.us wrote: This means that I must always have at least one Gnome session active, and I must use that as my control session. It also seems that there's a mixed metaphor in that the first X session is F1 but the rest start at F7. Its only a mixed metaphor in that you are relying on keyboard shortcuts which encode specific virtual terminals to specific key mappings. This metaphor breaks down quickly once you start doing anything dynamic. Have 3 or 4 fast user switching users log in and logout in varying orders and even if the the X sessions were mapped to high ttys they would not be in a consistent ordering as users bounce on and off the system. Its quite analogous to how me moved from fixed block device naming to udev dynamic block device creation. Don't be shocked if we move into a future where the 5 or 6 mingetty's we start by default now are also started dynamically in the future and are given the next available tty instead of being on tty2-tt6 from boot up. -jef That makes sense, I guess - this part of the question was relatively minor anyway. What I'd really like is to find a way to do all this without the Gnome session requirement. -Don -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: 64bit JRE Mozilla plugin ?
Michael Cronenworth wrote: Kevin Kempter wrote: Hi all; anyone know how to get a 64bit JRE/java plugin for firefox working ? Thanks in advance # yum install java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin I ran yum install java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin and got the below Error message. No package java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin available. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 10 ctf-alt-F2
On 12/23/2008 02:50 PM, Don Levey wrote: Jeff Spaleta wrote: On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 9:53 AM, Don Levey fedora-l...@the-leveys.us wrote: This means that I must always have at least one Gnome session active, and I must use that as my control session. It also seems that there's a mixed metaphor in that the first X session is F1 but the rest start at F7. Its only a mixed metaphor in that you are relying on keyboard shortcuts which encode specific virtual terminals to specific key mappings. This metaphor breaks down quickly once you start doing anything dynamic. Have 3 or 4 fast user switching users log in and logout in varying orders and even if the the X sessions were mapped to high ttys they would not be in a consistent ordering as users bounce on and off the system. Its quite analogous to how me moved from fixed block device naming to udev dynamic block device creation. Don't be shocked if we move into a future where the 5 or 6 mingetty's we start by default now are also started dynamically in the future and are given the next available tty instead of being on tty2-tt6 from boot up. -jef That makes sense, I guess - this part of the question was relatively minor anyway. What I'd really like is to find a way to do all this without the Gnome session requirement. Don, I don't recall fro the thread, but what Display Manager are you using. Does it make a difference if you are running kdm or gdm? -- Jerry Feldman g...@blu.org Boston Linux and Unix PGP key id: 537C5846 PGP Key fingerprint: 3D1B 8377 A3C0 A5F2 ECBB CA3B 4607 4319 537C 5846 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: 64bit JRE Mozilla plugin ?
Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:12:59 -0500 Jim mickey...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Michael Cronenworth wrote: Kevin Kempter wrote: Hi all; anyone know how to get a 64bit JRE/java plugin for firefox working ? Thanks in advance # yum install java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin I ran yum install java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin and got the below Error message. No package java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin available. What version of Fedora do you have there. That package is available only in Fedora 9 and Fedora 10. If you are using Fedora 8 you would need to do: yum install java-1.7.0-icedtea-plugin kevin Yes FC8 , Thanks much. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 10 ctf-alt-F2
Jerry Feldman wrote: On 12/23/2008 02:50 PM, Don Levey wrote: That makes sense, I guess - this part of the question was relatively minor anyway. What I'd really like is to find a way to do all this without the Gnome session requirement. Don, I don't recall fro the thread, but what Display Manager are you using. Does it make a difference if you are running kdm or gdm? Good question. Hmm... From my reading, I'm probably running gdm; I don't have a /etc/sysconfig/desktop file, so as I understand it the /etc/X11/prefdm file will execute gdm first on its list. I'm a little shaky on this, though. OK, changing to kdm *does* seem to permit KDE's Switch Users to work correctly. Thanks for the lead! -Don -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
how can bring up eth0:2 only
Hi all how can bring up eth0:2 only ifconfig eth0:2 up is not working I have to use service network restart but it restarts all network interfaces Thank you Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Updating and installing packages without an internet connection
First of all sorry for not replying sooner. I had gone to get the desktop. ^_^ Got it all, except the CPU, placed a backorder for that. :P 2008/12/22 John Brier jbr...@redhat.com suvayu ali wrote: Hi all, I am getting a new desktop probably today, and is going to install F10 on it. However my problem is I don't have an internet connection at home. So is there a way to apply updates? I did find some suggestions in the archives. Most said to download all the updates onto some media and use rpm -Fvh *.rpm. Even if I overlook the size of the downloads, this won't work if I were to install new packages. How would dependency resolution work in that case? Is there any way I can find that out beforehand and download all the dependency pacakges as well? The only machines with an internet connection I have access to, are at the university. However since all of them run Ubuntu, doing an rpm query on the new package is not feasible. Any suggestions? You can make a local yum repo with the installation DVD ISO or maybe even the Fedora Spins to get the newer rpms: http://kbase.redhat.com/faq/docs/DOC-9893 Thats a very simple and effective way to do it. However for me to have the updated packages or any new packages I will have to go for the spins. But all of the spins are offered as torrents, and the university blocks all torrent downloads. If only the spins were mirrored somewhere John Brier -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Updating and installing packages without an internet connection
... How would dependency resolution work in that case? Is there any way I can find that out beforehand and download all the dependency pacakges as well? Yup. Install gnome-packagekit-extra and use the service pack creator[1] on a live CD. Richard. [1] http://www.packagekit.org/img/gpk-service-pack.png After I read your reply, I looked at your blog post about this. Sounds very useful, specially for my case. How would this work exactly in my case, since I would be downloading the updates / new packages on Ubuntu? btw, thanks for all the worthwhile suggestions. I 'll have to do some more reading on all these. -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: GPU chips vs Video Cards
2008/12/23 Kam Leo kam@gmail.com On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 2:54 AM, Dave Feustel dfeus...@mindspring.com wrote: Will the use of GPU chips eliminate the need for video cards and/or eliminate the security vulnerabilities that the video cards introduce into operating systems? Thanks. No. Similar to what is already on the market. You have integrated video on many motherboards but still have a market for high performance (gamers, etc.) video. I just bought a Radeon HD 4870 yesterday. Now until the day an integrated chip can match that, as Leo says, a market for high end graphics solutions will always exist. However I don't understand what you mean by security vulnerabilities introduced by discrete video cards. Could you elaborate on that a little more? -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: 64bit JRE Mozilla plugin ?
Jim wrote: Michael Cronenworth wrote: Kevin Kempter wrote: Hi all; anyone know how to get a 64bit JRE/java plugin for firefox working ? Thanks in advance # yum install java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin I ran yum install java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin and got the below Error message. No package java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin available. I have the following installed on my F9 system: java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin-1.6.0.0-0.20.b09.fc9.x86_64 It has a build date of 2008-12-02 and was built at x86-4.fedora.phx.redhat.com The symlink list on my system looks like: /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins-wrapped/libjavaplugin.so - /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin.so - /etc/alternatives/libjavaplugin.so.x86_64 - /usr/lib/jvm/jre-1.6.0-openjdk.x86_64/lib/amd64/gcjwebplugin.so -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: GPU chips vs Video Cards
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 01:01:32PM -0800, suvayu ali wrote: 2008/12/23 Kam Leo kam@gmail.com On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 2:54 AM, Dave Feustel dfeus...@mindspring.com wrote: Will the use of GPU chips eliminate the need for video cards and/or eliminate the security vulnerabilities that the video cards introduce into operating systems? Thanks. No. Similar to what is already on the market. You have integrated video on many motherboards but still have a market for high performance (gamers, etc.) video. I just bought a Radeon HD 4870 yesterday. Now until the day an integrated chip can match that, as Leo says, a market for high end graphics solutions will always exist. However I don't understand what you mean by security vulnerabilities introduced by discrete video cards. Could you elaborate on that a little more? Various OpenBSD developers have stated that there are OS vulnerabilities introduced by the use of video card hardware features by X. It's been a while since I read the details, but I wonder if the GPU chips might be able to run in user (non-priviledged) mode only, thus precluding the possibility of exploits based upon direct hardware access given the video card software. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
what does pulse, pulse-access and pulse-rt get me?
I've noticed that my sound seems to go away sometimes. Most of the time it seems to be fine, but occasionally when I try to run a program that uses sound I get Error opening PCM device default: Connection refused Restarting pulseaudio seems to get it going again: pulseaudio -k ; pulseaudio -D --log-target=syslog When pulseaudio starts, /var/log/messages tells me: QUOTE: We are not in group 'pulse-rt' and PolicyKit refuse to grant us privileges. Dropping SUID again. Dec 23 15:08:14 mutt pulseaudio[21344]: main.c: For enabling real-time schedulin g please acquire the appropriate PolicyKit privileges, or become a member of 'pu lse-rt', or increase the RLIMIT_NICE/RLIMIT_RTPRIO resource limits for this user . Dec 23 15:08:14 mutt pulseaudio[21344]: main.c: High-priority scheduling enabled in configuration but not allowed by policy. END OF QUOTE pulse, pulse-access and pulse-rt groups all exist on this computer but I'm not a member of any of them. Again, though, my sound mostly works. Would I gain something by joining these groups? I've done some reading about this and the purpose of these groups is still not clear to me. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com DRY CLEANER BUSINESS FOR SALE ~ http://www.canadadrycleanerforsale.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: backup of my / filesystem
On Tue, 2008-12-23 at 11:54 -0800, Mike Cloaked wrote: Sorry the previous file was an old one - this is the correct script http://www.nabble.com/file/p21150355/backall backall So your script backsup what is in the list= line? -- Mike Chambers Fedora Project - Ambassador, Bug Zapper, Tester, User, etc.. mikec...@fedoraproject.org -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Advice to an audiophobe ??
On Tue, 2008-12-23 at 10:55 -0500, William Case wrote: * What is the difference between alsa and pulseaudio? Major differences: Pulseaudio can produce different sounds at the same time (e.g. your IM program can bleep at you while your music program carries on playing music, and do so without crashes, hangs, hold-ups for one to finish, or nasty noises), and with individual volume controls for each (e.g. your IM bleeps subdued, while your music may be reasonably loud). * What is the difference between Master, PCM, Front, Line-in, CD, PC-Speaker etc. ? Master is the overall volume control over everything, the same control that you're used to on your stereo system. PCM is just the volume control for generated sounds (Waves, MP3s, etc.). Front is the volume control for the front speakers, if you have a system with front and rear speakers (3 - 5, or more, speaker systems). Used as a balance control between front versus rear sound levels. Line-in will control the volume from the analogue audio line-in in socket (which may accept signals from something like 0.2 to 2 volts of audio, compare that to microphone sockets, which may use something in the range of 0.0001 to 0.010 volts, i.e. there's a large factor of difference between line and microphone signal levels). CD will (generally) control the volume from the (3 or 4 pin) analogue audio cable between the CD/DVD drive and the sound card. Although it's *possible* that systems digitally decoding the audio stream from the data from the drive (down the IDE/SATA cable) may *also* pay attention to that volume control, it's generally a hardware control of the line input on the audio card. PC speaker controls, if it's connected, the motherboard beeper volume through the sound card. On some systems, that's a cable between the beeper output and a sound card input, on others its handled without additional cabling, and others it can't be done. These individual mixer input controls should normally be left off if you never use them, as they can each introduce noise (hiss, beeps and burbles, etc.) to the system. And when you do use them, it's dependent on the card whether the nominal position for the level control is all the way up (for simplicity's sake), or part way up (allowing you to listen to signals that are really too low in level). And again, there's variances as to where the partial position may be (e.g. half way, or three quarters up). Also, what's connected to the mixer plays a role there, whether it has a low output level that will need boosting, the same level as the card expects, or a high level that will normally be too much. * How is sound related to video ? Sound is the sound, video is the picture... The question is too vague to be answerable. * Why are there so many files associated with producing sound? Driver-wise, there's a plethora of different sound cards, which all work very differently, and each have differing controls available to the user. There's a plethora of different audio codecs. For playing MIDI files, something needs to generate the actual sounds each note will play (that could be one file per sound, or you could make use of hardware that does it). That's another almost unanswerable question. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.7-53.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: GPU chips vs Video Cards
On Tue, 2008-12-23 at 16:34 -0500, Dave Feustel wrote: Various OpenBSD developers have stated that there are OS vulnerabilities introduced by the use of video card hardware features by X. It's been a while since I read the details, but I wonder if the GPU chips might be able to run in user (non-priviledged) mode only, thus precluding the possibility of exploits based upon direct hardware access given the video card software. Are you sure that's not just issues because of X, and maybe drivers, not the actual graphics cards, themselves? If anything, I'd expect more issues with GPUs, as they're not all just usable for graphics, some are usable as an additional CPU for other purposes. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.7-53.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: backup of my / filesystem
On Tue, 2008-12-23 at 13:52 +, Timothy Murphy wrote: Jerry Feldman wrote: I backup our system at work (500GB) using rsync. Our New York office runs rsync against my backup volume. Over the years I have found rsync to be a very reliable tool. I just got BackupPC to work on my system, after hours of torture. (Is this the worst documented Linux application?) Effectively, BackupPC is a GUI front-end to rsync. Once set up it seems quite impressive to me. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland Timothy, Every time I get the chance to get into BackupPC I run out of time trying to get a satisfactory starting point. I agree with you about the documentation. Have you uncovered a good tutorial for it? Greg Ennis -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: FINAL REMINDER: Fedora 8 EOL
On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 08:37:44 +1030 Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote: On Tue, 2008-12-23 at 13:55 -0500, Jon Stanley wrote: Also as of that date, all open bugs against Fedora 8 will be CLOSED WONTFIX. I'm curious as to whether that's a blanket effect against all Fedora 8 bugs, or takes into account bugs that also affect later versions. e.g. The bug gets reported against 8, but some of the addendums people attach include 9 or 10. The bug closes cause notify messages so providing someone updates or re-opens them all will be fine. I've got several bugs that started at FC8 bugs that have already been marked versus newer releases so they can be kept open. Alan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Cheese
Installing and removing gpodder with yum works fine. I can install cheese, but the icons now don't even show up in the application menu. Restarting gnome-panel or a full reboot did not bring any other results. Starting cheese from the console works. Christoph -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Can't get Correct Time in Fedora 8
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Jim wrote: Fedora 8 won't keep correct time. Unable to connect to time server , it doesn' make any difference what time server you try to connect to. ntpd is running in services. Dumb question time: To you have a full-time internet connection? yes Is your network configured properly? (Can you connect to web sites like http://www/google.com?) yes What does /var/log/messages show? (nptd messages) Mikkel ntpd[1906]: Listening on interface #2 eth0, fe80::20f:eaff:fe8c:135c#123 Enabled Dec 23 14:15:42 x86_64 ntpd[1906]: Listening on interface #3 eth0, 172.16.1.38#123 Enabled Dec 21 12:34:59 x86_64 ntpd[1891]: ntpd exiting on signal 15 Dec 21 12:41:34 x86_64 ntpd[1905]: ntpd 4.2@1.1520-o Tue Apr 15 14:22:43 UTC 2008 (1) Dec 21 12:41:34 x86_64 ntpd[1906]: precision = 1.000 usec Dec 21 12:41:34 x86_64 ntpd[1906]: Listening on interface #0 wildcard, 0.0.0.0#123 Disabled Dec 21 12:41:34 x86_64 ntpd[1906]: Listening on interface #1 wildcard, ::#123 Disabled Dec 21 12:41:34 x86_64 ntpd[1906]: kernel time sync status 0040 Dec 21 12:41:34 x86_64 ntpd[1906]: frequency initialized 0.000 PPM from /var/lib/ntp/drift Dec 21 12:41:34 x86_64 ntpd[1906]: getaddrinfo: 0.fedora.pool.ntp.org invalid host address, ignored Dec 21 12:41:34 x86_64 ntpd[1906]: getaddrinfo: 1.fedora.pool.ntp.org invalid host address, ignored Dec 21 12:41:34 x86_64 ntpd[1906]: getaddrinfo: 2.fedora.pool.ntp.org invalid host address, ignored Dec 21 12:56:34 x86_64 ntpd[1906]: ntpd exiting on signal 15 Dec 21 12:59:33 x86_64 ntpd[1904]: ntpd 4.2@1.1520-o Tue Apr 15 14:22:43 UTC 2008 (1) Dec 21 12:59:33 x86_64 ntpd[1905]: precision = 1.000 usec Dec 21 12:59:33 x86_64 ntpd[1905]: Listening on interface #0 wildcard, 0.0.0.0#123 Disabled Dec 21 12:59:33 x86_64 ntpd[1905]: Listening on interface #1 wildcard, ::#123 Disabled Dec 21 12:59:33 x86_64 ntpd[1905]: kernel time sync status 0040 Dec 21 12:59:33 x86_64 ntpd[1905]: frequency initialized 0.000 PPM from /var/lib/ntp/drift Dec 21 12:59:33 x86_64 ntpd[1905]: getaddrinfo: 0.fedora.pool.ntp.org invalid host address, ignored Dec 21 12:59:33 x86_64 ntpd[1905]: getaddrinfo: 1.fedora.pool.ntp.org invalid host address, ignored Dec 21 12:59:33 x86_64 ntpd[1905]: getaddrinfo: 2.fedora.pool.ntp.org invalid host address, ignored Dec 21 13:04:34 x86_64 ntpd[1905]: Listening on interface #2 eth0, fe80::20f:eaff:fe8c:135c#123 Enabled Dec 21 13:04:34 x86_64 ntpd[1905]: Listening on interface #3 eth0, 172.16.1.38#123 Enabled Dec 23 14:09:21 x86_64 ntpd[1905]: ntpd exiting on signal 15 ntpd[1905]: ntpd 4.2@1.1520-o Tue Apr 15 14:22:43 UTC 2008 (1) Dec 23 14:10:41 x86_64 ntpd[1906]: precision = 1.000 usec Dec 23 14:10:41 x86_64 ntpd[1906]: Listening on interface #0 wildcard, 0.0.0.0#123 Disabled Dec 23 14:10:41 x86_64 ntpd[1906]: Listening on interface #1 wildcard, ::#123 Disabled Dec 23 14:10:41 x86_64 ntpd[1906]: kernel time sync status 0040 Dec 23 14:10:41 x86_64 ntpd[1906]: frequency initialized 0.000 PPM from /var/lib/ntp/drift Dec 23 14:10:41 x86_64 ntpd[1906]: getaddrinfo: 0.fedora.pool.ntp.org invalid host address, ignored Dec 23 14:10:41 x86_64 ntpd[1906]: getaddrinfo: 1.fedora.pool.ntp.org invalid host address, ignored Dec 23 14:10:41 x86_64 ntpd[1906]: getaddrinfo: 2.fedora.pool.ntp.org invalid host address, ignored ntpd[1906]: Listening on interface #2 eth0, fe80::20f:eaff:fe8c:135c#123 Enabled Dec 23 14:15:42 x86_64 ntpd[1906]: Listening on interface #3 eth0, 172.16.1.38#123 Enabled Dec 21 12:29:40 x86_64 ntpd[1891]: Deleting interface #3 eth2, fe80::20f:eaff:fe8c:158d#123, interface stats: received=0, sent=0, dropped=0, active_time=1361211 secs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Cheese
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 2:46 PM, Christoph Unger christoph.unger.adela...@googlemail.com wrote: Installing and removing gpodder with yum works fine. I can install cheese, but the icons now don't even show up in the application menu. What? Here is what I see when I install cheese menu: Applications-Sound Video: menu item: Cheese Webcam Booth do you have a file on your system called /usr/share/applications/cheese.desktop ? -jef -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Can't get Correct Time in Fedora 8
On Tue, 2008-12-23 at 18:38 -0500, Jim wrote: Dec 21 12:41:34 x86_64 ntpd[1906]: getaddrinfo: 0.fedora.pool.ntp.org invalid host address, ignored Dec 21 12:41:34 x86_64 ntpd[1906]: getaddrinfo: 1.fedora.pool.ntp.org invalid host address, ignored Dec 21 12:41:34 x86_64 ntpd[1906]: getaddrinfo: 2.fedora.pool.ntp.org invalid host address, ignored Are you using NetworkManager to handle your network? In Fedora 9 I found that NTPD was started before the network was brought up, and NTPD never tried again after the network came to life. There were at least two solutions: 1. Stop using NetworkManager (use the network service, instead). 2. Restart NTPD after the network's alive (add a script for the power management daemon). -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.7-53.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to Restart the service sshd in Fedora Linux System ?
Directory /etc/ssh - should be drwxr-xr-x. The world must have the
rights to read and enter the directory but not write to it.
Most of the files should be -rw---. Only root can read or write
them. None should have x permission. And ssh_config and the .pub
files should be -rw-r--r--.
Nobody but root should be able to write to that directory under any
circumstance or your system is open to exploitation.
Each user ~/.ssh directory should be drwxr-xr-x. Each file should be
-rw-r--r--. (This is probably wrong. The directory probably should be
drwx-- and the files should be -rw---. But under RedHat and
Fedora home directories are drwx--, so people who do not belong
can't get to the directory in the first place.
{^_^}
- Original Message -
From: Rick Stevens ri...@nerd.com
Sent: Tuesday, 2008, December 23 10:27
Jyotishmaan Ray wrote:
Please tell me whose permissions should be 700, please name the files
whose permissions I must set to 700, and also let me know if anuthing
lese has to be done in order to execute the ssh command.
My set up is as follows:
The /etc/ssh directory is owned by root, group of root and have 755
permissions (rwxrw-rw-). The files IN /etc/ssh are all be owned by
root, group of root with 500 permissions (rw---) EXCEPT ssh_config
and any *.pub files. Those have 544 permissions (rw-r--r--).
In _your_ home directory, the .ssh directory is owned by you with your
group and have 700 permissions (rwx--). The files in it should
be owned by you with your group and have 500 permissions (rw---)
except any *.pub files, which can have 544 permissions (rw-r--r--).
Really, since the directory can only be read by you, all files could be
544 (rw-r--r--). ssh really is worried about someone other than you
writing to those files.
--- On Mon, 12/22/08, Aaron Konstam akons...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
From: Aaron Konstam akons...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: How to Restart the service sshd in Fedora Linux System ?
To: jyotishm...@yahoo.com, Community assistance, encouragement, and
advice for using Fedora. fedora-list@redhat.com
Date: Monday, December 22, 2008, 9:26 PM
On Mon, 2008-12-22 at 05:06 -0800, Jyotishmaan Ray wrote:
Dear All FEDORA Users,
I am a new bir in fedora linux system as administrator.
Please tell me one thing.
In my fedora linux os server, i am not able to sshd service .
The thing is that, once I had to change the permissions of the files
just in order to avoid the other users to explore the system, using
chmod command. However, I have immediately changed the permissons
again back.
Soon after that I could not log on to the fedora server systm using
the ssh serverhostname username command.
When tried to run sshd service using service sshd restart, I got the
folloeing errors shown below:-
Permissions 0755 for '/etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key' are too open.
It is recommended that your private key files are NOT accessible by
others.
This private key will be ignored.
bad permissions :ignore key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key
Could not load host key : /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key
Disabling protocol version 2. Could not load host key
sshd: no hostkeys available --exiting
Please immedialtely let me know, what to fix in order to restart the
service sshd.
Permissions should be 700.
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Re: Cheese
Yes, I do have the corresponding .desktop file,but I am still missing the entry in the menu, as you can see on the screenshot. In my german version of Fedora, the entry ought to be Cheese-Website. But as you can see, it is not there. Christoph attachment: cheese-missing.jpg-- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Can't get Correct Time in Fedora 8
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 10:41:50AM +1030, Tim wrote: On Tue, 2008-12-23 at 18:38 -0500, Jim wrote: Dec 21 12:41:34 x86_64 ntpd[1906]: getaddrinfo: 0.fedora.pool.ntp.org invalid host address, ignored Dec 21 12:41:34 x86_64 ntpd[1906]: getaddrinfo: 1.fedora.pool.ntp.org invalid host address, ignored Dec 21 12:41:34 x86_64 ntpd[1906]: getaddrinfo: 2.fedora.pool.ntp.org invalid host address, ignored Are you using NetworkManager to handle your network? In Fedora 9 I found that NTPD was started before the network was brought up, and NTPD never tried again after the network came to life. There were at least two solutions: 1. Stop using NetworkManager (use the network service, instead). 2. Restart NTPD after the network's alive (add a script for the power management daemon). In that case, to fix this, you can probably run system-config-time and, under the NTP tab, and Advanced Options, turn off the option labeled Synchronize clock when system starts. To make sure that the clock is relatively in sync for the future without having to take a long time for the skew to be resolved, you can do this: su -# provide root password service ntpd stop ntpdate 0.fedora.pool.ntp.org # or your server of choice service ntpd start exit -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug pgp9HOPrqVHHu.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Can't get Correct Time in Fedora 8
Jim wrote: Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: To you have a full-time internet connection? yes If the ntpd service starts before NetworkManager brings up your network connection, ntpd doesn't always seem to be able to connect. If you restart ntpd after your connection is brought up, does it work then? (If your time is way off, you might need to sync it manually, using ntpdate -u $some_time_server.) -- ToddOpenPGP - KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ It was such a lovely day, I thought it a pity to get up. -- W. Somerset Maugham pgpo19u80a7yn.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: GPU chips vs Video Cards
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 08:39:47AM +1030, Tim wrote: On Tue, 2008-12-23 at 16:34 -0500, Dave Feustel wrote: Various OpenBSD developers have stated that there are OS vulnerabilities introduced by the use of video card hardware features by X. It's been a while since I read the details, but I wonder if the GPU chips might be able to run in user (non-priviledged) mode only, thus precluding the possibility of exploits based upon direct hardware access given the video card software. Are you sure that's not just issues because of X, and maybe drivers, not the actual graphics cards, themselves? It is my impression that the security vulnerabilities associated with the graphics cards stem from the abiltiy of the cards to access all of memory using dma. The OpenBSD people said that the only way to avoid this problem is to not allow X access to the video card. If anything, I'd expect more issues with GPUs, as they're not all just usable for graphics, some are usable as an additional CPU for other purposes. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to Restart the service sshd in Fedora Linux System ?
jdow wrote: Directory /etc/ssh - should be drwxr-xr-x. The world must have the rights to read and enter the directory but not write to it. Most of the files should be -rw---. Only root can read or write them. None should have x permission. And ssh_config and the .pub files should be -rw-r--r--. Nobody but root should be able to write to that directory under any circumstance or your system is open to exploitation. Each user ~/.ssh directory should be drwxr-xr-x. Each file should be -rw-r--r--. (This is probably wrong. The directory probably should be drwx-- and the files should be -rw---. But under RedHat and Fedora home directories are drwx--, so people who do not belong can't get to the directory in the first place. Yes, your second statement is more correct. The ~/.ssh directory should be drwx--. While, as you point out, it won't make a difference in cases where one doesn't alter the defaults of user creation. In cases where you assign groups or add users to various groups it could become a factor. So as not to tax ones memory I feel it is good practice to advise drwx--. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Can't get Correct Time in Fedora 8
Paul W. Frields wrote: su -# provide root password service ntpd stop ntpdate 0.fedora.pool.ntp.org # or your server of choice service ntpd start exit I presume you're stopping ntpd because otherwise ntpdate complains that the NTP socket is in use, exiting? To avoid that, just use the -u option to ntpdate and it will be able to update while ntpd is running. -- ToddOpenPGP - KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Reason obeys itself; and ignorance does whatever is dictated to it. -- Thomas Paine pgpxnS7u1aNeI.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
