Re: Auto CAD drawings

[Athmane Madjoudj]

On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 8:28 AM, RAMAKISHOREBABU KOPPULA
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> Is there any software available for fedora to open Auto CAD drawings?
>
> Thank you.
>
> Kishore
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If you use autocad for 2D drawing then give QCad a try: http://www.qcad.org/


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Re: Auto CAD drawings

[Antonio M]

2009/11/16 RAMAKISHOREBABU KOPPULA :
> Is there any software available for fedora to open Auto CAD drawings?
>
> Thank you.
>
> Kishore
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have a look to Varicad, there is also a free viewer...  www.varicad.com

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Auto CAD drawings

[RAMAKISHOREBABU KOPPULA]

Is there any software available for fedora to open Auto CAD drawings?

Thank you.

Kishore
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Re: how many 32-bit packages does sun's java sdk need?

[Robert P. J. Day]

On Sun, 15 Nov 2009, Steve Forsythe wrote:

> Perhaps I'm misunderstanding exactly what you're trying to do -
> there's definitely 64-bit version of Sun's SDK available. If you go
> to their download page at
> http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/widget/jdk6.jsp there's a
> pulldown that lists 9 different platforms including Linux x64. ~
> I've been using it for several years now.

  yes, i see it.  and i'm puzzled that the first download page i
found:

  http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp

doesn't seem to provide an option for a 64-bit SDK, even if you
follow links.  the page i ended up at simply gave me the option of
a generic "linux" download, not architecture-specific.  thanks.

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networkmanager and openvpn parameters

[Joseph L. Casale]

I need to add an auth-user-pass directive to my configuration, how
do I do this?

Thanks!
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Re: Attempt to build kernel under fc11 x86_64 fails

[Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)]

On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
 wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Reg Clemens  wrote:
>> I have just brought up 64bit fc11, done a 'yum update' to bring it up to
>> date with the current changes, and am trying to build the 2.7.31.6 kernel.
>>
>> This is my first try at a 64bit OS, so I may be doing something stupid.
>>
>> I see a number of compile errors/warnings, but the most significant seem
>> to be near the end of the build of the modules, where I see:
>>
>> ---
>>
>>  LD [M]  sound/synth/emux/snd-emux-synth.ko
>>  LD [M]  sound/synth/snd-util-mem.ko
>>  IHEX    firmware/acenic/tg1.bin
>>  IHEX    firmware/acenic/tg2.bin
>>  IHEX    firmware/adaptec/starfire_rx.bin
>> /bin/sh: /usr/local/bin/objcopy: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: bad ELF interpreter: No
>> such file or directory
>> /bin/sh: /usr/local/bin/objcopy: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: bad ELF interpreter: No
>> such file or directory
>> make[1]: *** [firmware/acenic/tg1.bin] Error 126
>> make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
>> make[1]: *** [firmware/acenic/tg2.bin] Error 126
>> /bin/sh: /usr/local/bin/objcopy: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: bad ELF interpreter: No
>> such file or directory
>> make[1]: *** [firmware/adaptec/starfire_rx.bin] Error 126
>> make: *** [modules] Error 2
>>  CHK     include/linux/version.h
>>  CHK     include/linux/utsrelease.h
>>
>> ---
>>
>> And then when I try to do the 'make modules_install' I see
>>
>> ---
>>
>> 
>>
>>  INSTALL sound/synth/emux/snd-emux-synth.ko
>>  INSTALL sound/synth/snd-util-mem.ko
>>  IHEX    firmware/acenic/tg1.bin
>> /bin/sh: /usr/local/bin/objcopy: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: bad ELF interpreter: No
>> such file or directory
>> make[1]: *** [firmware/acenic/tg1.bin] Error 126
>> make: *** [_modinst_post] Error 2
>>
>> ---
>>
>> Since this is my first experience with 64bit Linux (Ive been running 32bit up
>> till now)
>> Im not sure what this is trying to tell me.  Is something missing from the
>> install???
>>
>> Any help would be appreciated.
>>
>> ---
>>
>>                                        Reg.Clemens
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>
> You've installed the 64-bit version of Fedora 11. So naturally the
> glibc that was installed is also 64-bit.
>
> Are you trying to compile a 32-bit kernel? Then you need to install
> the 32-bit version of glibc.
>
> Can you do a "rpm -qa | grep glibc"  and paste the output here?
>
> When you install 32-bit glibc, the file ld-linux.so.2 will be
> installed. Presently it is not.
>
> Can you do a search for ld-linux.so.2 by using the following command?
>
> # find / -name ld-linux.so.2
>
>
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Can you also do a "head -n 15 .config"?

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Re: trying to understand SELinux message

[Paul Allen Newell]

Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote:

On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Paul Allen Newell  wrote:
  

Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote:




>From Wikipedia:

“...given the threat models and capabilities of the adversaries
involved, that's probably appropriate... But that’s not necessarily
appropriate for all users. SELINUX is so horrible to use, that after
wasting a large amount of time enabling it and then watching all of my
applications die a horrible death since they didn't have the
appropriate hand-crafted security policy, caused me to swear off of
it. For me, given my threat model and how much my time is worth, life
is too short for SELinux.” — Theodore Ts’o

:-)

  

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Re: trying to understand SELinux message

[Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)]

On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Paul Allen Newell  wrote:
> Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Paul Allen Newell 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>
>> Hi Paul,
>>
>> 
>> Summary:
>>
>> SELinux is preventing the gdm-session-wor from using potentially
>> mislabeled
>> files (.dmrc).
>>
>> Detailed Description:
>>
>> SELinux has denied gdm-session-wor access to potentially mislabeled
>> file(s)
>> (.dmrc). This means that SELinux will not allow gdm-session-wor to use
>> these
>> files. It is common for users to edit files in their home directory or tmp
>> directories and then move (mv) them to system directories. The problem is
>> that
>> the files end up with the wrong file context which confined applications
>> are not
>> allowed to access.
>>
>> Allowing Access:
>>
>> If you want gdm-session-wor to access this files, you need to relabel them
>> using
>> restorecon -v '.dmrc'. You might want to relabel the entire directory
>> using
>> restorecon -R -v ''.
>>
>> 
>>
>> Link: http://osdir.com/ml/fedora-selinux/2009-02/msg00111.html
>>
>>
>> You can execute the following command as root to solve your problem.
>>
>> # restorecon -R -v /root
>>
>> It should stop the AVC messages from popping up.
>>
>>
>
> Thank you very much for finding this. That being said, my head hurts after
> reading it as I am not certain what a large part of it means. But I do know
> that I probably moved at least one file in from my personal account and so
> it kinda makes sense.
>
> Let me re-read after a night's sleep and see if this, plus your link, makes
> more sense then.
>
> That being said, what the "word-of-your-choice" is "gdm-session-wor" ???
>
> Paul
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>From Wikipedia:

“...given the threat models and capabilities of the adversaries
involved, that's probably appropriate... But that’s not necessarily
appropriate for all users. SELINUX is so horrible to use, that after
wasting a large amount of time enabling it and then watching all of my
applications die a horrible death since they didn't have the
appropriate hand-crafted security policy, caused me to swear off of
it. For me, given my threat model and how much my time is worth, life
is too short for SELinux.” — Theodore Ts’o

:-)

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Re: Attempt to build kernel under fc11 x86_64 fails

[Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)]

On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Reg Clemens  wrote:
> I have just brought up 64bit fc11, done a 'yum update' to bring it up to
> date with the current changes, and am trying to build the 2.7.31.6 kernel.
>
> This is my first try at a 64bit OS, so I may be doing something stupid.
>
> I see a number of compile errors/warnings, but the most significant seem
> to be near the end of the build of the modules, where I see:
>
> ---
>
>  LD [M]  sound/synth/emux/snd-emux-synth.ko
>  LD [M]  sound/synth/snd-util-mem.ko
>  IHEX    firmware/acenic/tg1.bin
>  IHEX    firmware/acenic/tg2.bin
>  IHEX    firmware/adaptec/starfire_rx.bin
> /bin/sh: /usr/local/bin/objcopy: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: bad ELF interpreter: No
> such file or directory
> /bin/sh: /usr/local/bin/objcopy: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: bad ELF interpreter: No
> such file or directory
> make[1]: *** [firmware/acenic/tg1.bin] Error 126
> make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
> make[1]: *** [firmware/acenic/tg2.bin] Error 126
> /bin/sh: /usr/local/bin/objcopy: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: bad ELF interpreter: No
> such file or directory
> make[1]: *** [firmware/adaptec/starfire_rx.bin] Error 126
> make: *** [modules] Error 2
>  CHK     include/linux/version.h
>  CHK     include/linux/utsrelease.h
>
> ---
>
> And then when I try to do the 'make modules_install' I see
>
> ---
>
> 
>
>  INSTALL sound/synth/emux/snd-emux-synth.ko
>  INSTALL sound/synth/snd-util-mem.ko
>  IHEX    firmware/acenic/tg1.bin
> /bin/sh: /usr/local/bin/objcopy: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: bad ELF interpreter: No
> such file or directory
> make[1]: *** [firmware/acenic/tg1.bin] Error 126
> make: *** [_modinst_post] Error 2
>
> ---
>
> Since this is my first experience with 64bit Linux (Ive been running 32bit up
> till now)
> Im not sure what this is trying to tell me.  Is something missing from the
> install???
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> ---
>
>                                        Reg.Clemens
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You've installed the 64-bit version of Fedora 11. So naturally the
glibc that was installed is also 64-bit.

Are you trying to compile a 32-bit kernel? Then you need to install
the 32-bit version of glibc.

Can you do a "rpm -qa | grep glibc"  and paste the output here?

When you install 32-bit glibc, the file ld-linux.so.2 will be
installed. Presently it is not.

Can you do a search for ld-linux.so.2 by using the following command?

# find / -name ld-linux.so.2




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Re: trying to understand SELinux message

[Paul Allen Newell]

Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote:

On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Paul Allen Newell  wrote:
  




Hi Paul,


Summary:

SELinux is preventing the gdm-session-wor from using potentially mislabeled
files (.dmrc).

Detailed Description:

SELinux has denied gdm-session-wor access to potentially mislabeled file(s)
(.dmrc). This means that SELinux will not allow gdm-session-wor to use these
files. It is common for users to edit files in their home directory or tmp
directories and then move (mv) them to system directories. The problem is that
the files end up with the wrong file context which confined applications are not
allowed to access.

Allowing Access:

If you want gdm-session-wor to access this files, you need to relabel them using
restorecon -v '.dmrc'. You might want to relabel the entire directory using
restorecon -R -v ''.



Link: http://osdir.com/ml/fedora-selinux/2009-02/msg00111.html


You can execute the following command as root to solve your problem.

# restorecon -R -v /root

It should stop the AVC messages from popping up.

  
Thank you very much for finding this. That being said, my head hurts 
after reading it as I am not certain what a large part of it means. But 
I do know that I probably moved at least one file in from my personal 
account and so it kinda makes sense.


Let me re-read after a night's sleep and see if this, plus your link, 
makes more sense then.


That being said, what the "word-of-your-choice" is "gdm-session-wor" ???

Paul

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Re: Saving Flash

[Ed Greshko]

Marcel Rieux wrote:
>
> I've been had with this one. Since I found no file in /tmp, I assumed
> there would be no URL in the code of the page.
>
> This one, I believe, would be a better challenge:
>
> http://video.pbs.org/video/1082087546/
>
>   
The one thing that you are missing is that some media suppliers don't
want folks to save the streams.  Folks like psb and bbc develop there
own "embedded players" that sit between the flash plugin and source. 
The communicate on port 1935.  There is no disk cache and the protocol
is client-server.  In the case of the Cosby video it probably isn't even
flv format since a snoop of the network traffic has the file name being
served to be


 tp-live/PBS_CP_General_Audience/cosby-full-revised-CHN.mp4

There is no URL go get via wget since, as previously mentioned, the
protocol being used is macromedia-fcs.

FWIW, if I want to capture this type of stream I do one of 2 things.

1.  Play in full screen mode and feed the audio and video to my video
capture card and record using xdtv or something similar.

2.  Play in full screen mode and point my tripod mounted camcorder at
the screen while feeding audio directly from my sound card to my camcorder.

Both of these are the easiest way of doing it. 

The embedded players are unique to the media suppliers as they write
their own.

For these types of sites I've heard that you can try something like
"rtmpdump".  


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Re: trying to understand SELinux message

[Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)]

On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Paul Allen Newell  wrote:
> Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Paul Allen Newell 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote:
>>>

 You can try to disable SELinux in /etc/selinux/config or in
 /boot/grub/grub.conf.

 In /etc/selinux/config, change SELinux to DISABLED.

 OR

 In /boot/grub/grub.conf, add selinux=0 to the kernel line.

 E.g. kernel /vmlinuz ro root=/dev/sda2 selinux=0

 You shouldn't start X server or login to GNOME as root.




>>>
>>> My thanks for the prompt reply. I am not certain why I would want to
>>> disable
>>> SELinux as it clearly is part of the Fedora package and is trying to tell
>>> me
>>> that something isn't right.
>>>
>>> Yes, I know I should not start X server or login as root ... and that is
>>> not
>>> my normal work habit. But I would expect that I should still be able to
>>> do
>>> such and not have SELinux bark unless there was something wrong. It is
>>> the
>>> "what is wrong" that I am trying to understand and correct.
>>>
>>> Paul
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>>
>> Well, for home or personal use systems, you don't really need SELinux.
>> SELinux is for mission critical servers.
>>
>> Or unless you work for defense or intelligence agencies, then your
>> laptop needs to be secured with SELinux and high grade encryption.
>>
>>
>
> I have to deal with NDAs and those organizations don't like to hear "I don't
> use SELinux". Mission critical is not an issue, but doing the proper steps
> to show I am not disabling security is a necessary.
>
> Plus, an error is an error and I personally don't like pop-ups telling me
> there is something wrong (smile)
>
> Thanks,
> Paul
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Hi Paul,


Summary:

SELinux is preventing the gdm-session-wor from using potentially mislabeled
files (.dmrc).

Detailed Description:

SELinux has denied gdm-session-wor access to potentially mislabeled file(s)
(.dmrc). This means that SELinux will not allow gdm-session-wor to use these
files. It is common for users to edit files in their home directory or tmp
directories and then move (mv) them to system directories. The problem is that
the files end up with the wrong file context which confined applications are not
allowed to access.

Allowing Access:

If you want gdm-session-wor to access this files, you need to relabel them using
restorecon -v '.dmrc'. You might want to relabel the entire directory using
restorecon -R -v ''.



Link: http://osdir.com/ml/fedora-selinux/2009-02/msg00111.html


You can execute the following command as root to solve your problem.

# restorecon -R -v /root

It should stop the AVC messages from popping up.

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minor problems with Audio CD fix from Bug 514213

[Paul Allen Newell]

I just upgrade to 2.6.30.9-96.fc11.i686.PAE and everything else yum gave 
me today and confirmed that most of my issues have been fixed (a big 
thanks to Harald et al for getting this done !!!)


I just logged two more bugs related to a couple things that didn't 
happen with it.


Bug #537740: if one is using a CD-ROM instead of DVD drive, the 
icon/drive/mount doesn't get killed but it still doesn't see that there 
is media loaded


Bug #537741: the system still doesn't see that it has a floppy drive and 
loading a floppy does nothing (this works in f9)


I have one more bug to log, but need a bit of help to submit it.

I have a DVD that I can play in my DVD player. If I put it in my f11 
system, it not only kills the icon (and I suspect unmounts the drive and 
all sorts of other stuff), it actually totally kills the drive and I 
cannot eject the disk. The only way to get it out is a reboot and to 
push the button once the reboot has started after the current session 
has died.


I have tried every other DVD I can find and don't get this behavior. I 
think I need to supply info about "what the heck this DVD is", but would 
like some advice about what/how to query to give enough info to make a 
bug submission meaningful. I've got Linux f11 and f9 plus Windows XP to 
do querying.


Thanks in advance,
Paul

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Attempt to build kernel under fc11 x86_64 fails

[Reg Clemens]

I have just brought up 64bit fc11, done a 'yum update' to bring it up to
date with the current changes, and am trying to build the 2.7.31.6 kernel.

This is my first try at a 64bit OS, so I may be doing something stupid.

I see a number of compile errors/warnings, but the most significant seem
to be near the end of the build of the modules, where I see:

---

  LD [M]  sound/synth/emux/snd-emux-synth.ko
  LD [M]  sound/synth/snd-util-mem.ko
  IHEXfirmware/acenic/tg1.bin
  IHEXfirmware/acenic/tg2.bin
  IHEXfirmware/adaptec/starfire_rx.bin
/bin/sh: /usr/local/bin/objcopy: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: bad ELF interpreter: No 
such file or directory
/bin/sh: /usr/local/bin/objcopy: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: bad ELF interpreter: No 
such file or directory
make[1]: *** [firmware/acenic/tg1.bin] Error 126
make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
make[1]: *** [firmware/acenic/tg2.bin] Error 126
/bin/sh: /usr/local/bin/objcopy: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: bad ELF interpreter: No 
such file or directory
make[1]: *** [firmware/adaptec/starfire_rx.bin] Error 126
make: *** [modules] Error 2
  CHK include/linux/version.h
  CHK include/linux/utsrelease.h

---

And then when I try to do the 'make modules_install' I see

---



  INSTALL sound/synth/emux/snd-emux-synth.ko
  INSTALL sound/synth/snd-util-mem.ko
  IHEXfirmware/acenic/tg1.bin
/bin/sh: /usr/local/bin/objcopy: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: bad ELF interpreter: No 
such file or directory
make[1]: *** [firmware/acenic/tg1.bin] Error 126
make: *** [_modinst_post] Error 2

---

Since this is my first experience with 64bit Linux (Ive been running 32bit up 
till now)
Im not sure what this is trying to tell me.  Is something missing from the 
install???

Any help would be appreciated.

---

Reg.Clemens
clem...@dwf.com


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Re: Saving Flash

[Gene Heskett]

On Sunday 15 November 2009, Marcel Rieux wrote:
>On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Ed Greshko  wrote:
>> Marcel Rieux wrote:
>>> It doesn't save a file in /tmp. As a bonus, since it's not political,
>>> it's not off topic. Perfect for Linux geeks!
>>
>> That one was easy
>>
>> wget
>> http://pdl.warnerbros.com/trailers/alphanum/00a/about_schmidt_4x3ff_tlr_4
>>80x.flv
>
>I've been had with this one. Since I found no file in /tmp, I assumed
>there would be no URL in the code of the page.
>
>This one, I believe, would be a better challenge:
>
>http://video.pbs.org/video/1082087546/
>
And I don't see a link in /tmp to this one's buffer.  It's playing very well 
right now.  And lsof|grep firefox isn't spitting out anything that looks like 
the buffer location either.

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Re: help (What I really wanted to say....)

[Paul Allen Newell]

Hiisi wrote:

2009/11/16 Ed Greshko :
  

Roger wrote:


On 11/15/2009 08:37 PM, Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) wrote:
  

On 15/11/09 00:23, Ed Greshko wrote:


Ralph Gorrill wrote:
  

I yhave a DELL lap top that one of my employess loaded FEDORA on
with out telling anyone...I need to remove it...he is gone and I
have no password...can anyone help me please.



Why the fuss

Just say it's impossible to remove - Fedora is there for his enjoyment
and appreciation.

  

Nobody is fussing  It isn't impossible to "remove".  That would be
erroneous information.




For many people on this list it's really impossible to remove Fedora
from their computers (including myself). Sounds like the end of the
World!

  
I can't wait for DFM ... I want my operating system to stand up for 
itself !!! (and, yes, there is a "smile" at the end of that)


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Re: trying to understand SELinux message

[Paul Allen Newell]

Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote:

On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Paul Allen Newell  wrote:
  

Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote:



You can try to disable SELinux in /etc/selinux/config or in
/boot/grub/grub.conf.

In /etc/selinux/config, change SELinux to DISABLED.

OR

In /boot/grub/grub.conf, add selinux=0 to the kernel line.

E.g. kernel /vmlinuz ro root=/dev/sda2 selinux=0

You shouldn't start X server or login to GNOME as root.



  

My thanks for the prompt reply. I am not certain why I would want to disable
SELinux as it clearly is part of the Fedora package and is trying to tell me
that something isn't right.

Yes, I know I should not start X server or login as root ... and that is not
my normal work habit. But I would expect that I should still be able to do
such and not have SELinux bark unless there was something wrong. It is the
"what is wrong" that I am trying to understand and correct.

Paul

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Well, for home or personal use systems, you don't really need SELinux.
SELinux is for mission critical servers.

Or unless you work for defense or intelligence agencies, then your
laptop needs to be secured with SELinux and high grade encryption.

  
I have to deal with NDAs and those organizations don't like to hear "I 
don't use SELinux". Mission critical is not an issue, but doing the 
proper steps to show I am not disabling security is a necessary.


Plus, an error is an error and I personally don't like pop-ups telling 
me there is something wrong (smile)


Thanks,
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Re: trying to understand SELinux message

[Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)]

On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Paul Allen Newell  wrote:
> Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Paul Allen Newell 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hello:
>>>
>>> I just upgraded two of my systems to latest yum update
>>> (2.6.30.9-96.fc11.i686.PAE) with the hopes that the CD and DVD issues
>>> have
>>> been resolved (they have, almost, but thats a separate bugzilla report).
>>>
>>> What I am querying about in this email is a message that I am seeing when
>>> I
>>> log in as root (yes, I know the caveats and try to respect, but I always
>>> make sure the ability is there if I need it). I log in from the start
>>> page
>>> GUI and there are no problems until, after a couple of seconds later, a
>>> pop-up from the "star icon in the upper right" says I got problems. I
>>> open
>>> it up and it says:
>>>
>>> "SELinux is preventing the gdm-session-wor from using potentially
>>> mislabeled
>>> files (/root)."
>>>
>>> Okay, that's nice to know, but I have no idea what it is trying to tell
>>> me
>>> needs to be fixed. I've got a couple files in the home directory but
>>> nothing
>>> looks funny about them (*.txt cut-and-paste of yum update/installs and an
>>> html of "how-to-install f11 from scratch").
>>>
>>> I have edited both /etc/pam.d/gdm and /etc/pam.d/gdm-password per Fedora
>>> website instructions to allow root access.
>>>
>>> Closer inspection says that I first began getting this message on 20jun09
>>> after a yum update (I did original f11 install at the beginning of June).
>>> I
>>> just hadn't noticed it since I don't often log in as root, though I do
>>> remember seeing something in the summer and figuring it was a glip that
>>> would get fixed in future updates).
>>>
>>> Any suggestions as to what I should be looking for to get rid of this
>>> message ... if I do indeed actually need to pay attention to it. If there
>>> is
>>> more info I can provide, please let me know what it is and how to get it
>>> and
>>> I will gladly post such.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> Paul
>>>
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>>
>> You can try to disable SELinux in /etc/selinux/config or in
>> /boot/grub/grub.conf.
>>
>> In /etc/selinux/config, change SELinux to DISABLED.
>>
>> OR
>>
>> In /boot/grub/grub.conf, add selinux=0 to the kernel line.
>>
>> E.g. kernel /vmlinuz ro root=/dev/sda2 selinux=0
>>
>> You shouldn't start X server or login to GNOME as root.
>>
>>
>>
>
> My thanks for the prompt reply. I am not certain why I would want to disable
> SELinux as it clearly is part of the Fedora package and is trying to tell me
> that something isn't right.
>
> Yes, I know I should not start X server or login as root ... and that is not
> my normal work habit. But I would expect that I should still be able to do
> such and not have SELinux bark unless there was something wrong. It is the
> "what is wrong" that I am trying to understand and correct.
>
> Paul
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Well, for home or personal use systems, you don't really need SELinux.
SELinux is for mission critical servers.

Or unless you work for defense or intelligence agencies, then your
laptop needs to be secured with SELinux and high grade encryption.


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Re: trying to understand SELinux message

[Paul Allen Newell]

Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote:

On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Paul Allen Newell  wrote:
  

Hello:

I just upgraded two of my systems to latest yum update
(2.6.30.9-96.fc11.i686.PAE) with the hopes that the CD and DVD issues have
been resolved (they have, almost, but thats a separate bugzilla report).

What I am querying about in this email is a message that I am seeing when I
log in as root (yes, I know the caveats and try to respect, but I always
make sure the ability is there if I need it). I log in from the start page
GUI and there are no problems until, after a couple of seconds later, a
pop-up from the "star icon in the upper right" says I got problems. I open
it up and it says:

"SELinux is preventing the gdm-session-wor from using potentially mislabeled
files (/root)."

Okay, that's nice to know, but I have no idea what it is trying to tell me
needs to be fixed. I've got a couple files in the home directory but nothing
looks funny about them (*.txt cut-and-paste of yum update/installs and an
html of "how-to-install f11 from scratch").

I have edited both /etc/pam.d/gdm and /etc/pam.d/gdm-password per Fedora
website instructions to allow root access.

Closer inspection says that I first began getting this message on 20jun09
after a yum update (I did original f11 install at the beginning of June). I
just hadn't noticed it since I don't often log in as root, though I do
remember seeing something in the summer and figuring it was a glip that
would get fixed in future updates).

Any suggestions as to what I should be looking for to get rid of this
message ... if I do indeed actually need to pay attention to it. If there is
more info I can provide, please let me know what it is and how to get it and
I will gladly post such.

Thanks in advance,
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You can try to disable SELinux in /etc/selinux/config or in
/boot/grub/grub.conf.

In /etc/selinux/config, change SELinux to DISABLED.

OR

In /boot/grub/grub.conf, add selinux=0 to the kernel line.

E.g. kernel /vmlinuz ro root=/dev/sda2 selinux=0

You shouldn't start X server or login to GNOME as root.


  
My thanks for the prompt reply. I am not certain why I would want to 
disable SELinux as it clearly is part of the Fedora package and is 
trying to tell me that something isn't right.


Yes, I know I should not start X server or login as root ... and that is 
not my normal work habit. But I would expect that I should still be able 
to do such and not have SELinux bark unless there was something wrong. 
It is the "what is wrong" that I am trying to understand and correct.


Paul

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Re: help

[Phil Savoie]

Hi Ralph,

Did anyone help you yet?  If not, send me a private email and i will
help you out.

Phil

On 11/09/2009 01:16 PM, Ralph Gorrill wrote:
> I yhave a DELL lap top that one of my employess loaded FEDORA on with out 
> telling anyone...I need to remove it...he is gone and I have no 
> password...can anyone help me please.
> 

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Re: trying to understand SELinux message

[Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)]

On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Paul Allen Newell  wrote:
> Hello:
>
> I just upgraded two of my systems to latest yum update
> (2.6.30.9-96.fc11.i686.PAE) with the hopes that the CD and DVD issues have
> been resolved (they have, almost, but thats a separate bugzilla report).
>
> What I am querying about in this email is a message that I am seeing when I
> log in as root (yes, I know the caveats and try to respect, but I always
> make sure the ability is there if I need it). I log in from the start page
> GUI and there are no problems until, after a couple of seconds later, a
> pop-up from the "star icon in the upper right" says I got problems. I open
> it up and it says:
>
> "SELinux is preventing the gdm-session-wor from using potentially mislabeled
> files (/root)."
>
> Okay, that's nice to know, but I have no idea what it is trying to tell me
> needs to be fixed. I've got a couple files in the home directory but nothing
> looks funny about them (*.txt cut-and-paste of yum update/installs and an
> html of "how-to-install f11 from scratch").
>
> I have edited both /etc/pam.d/gdm and /etc/pam.d/gdm-password per Fedora
> website instructions to allow root access.
>
> Closer inspection says that I first began getting this message on 20jun09
> after a yum update (I did original f11 install at the beginning of June). I
> just hadn't noticed it since I don't often log in as root, though I do
> remember seeing something in the summer and figuring it was a glip that
> would get fixed in future updates).
>
> Any suggestions as to what I should be looking for to get rid of this
> message ... if I do indeed actually need to pay attention to it. If there is
> more info I can provide, please let me know what it is and how to get it and
> I will gladly post such.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Paul
>
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You can try to disable SELinux in /etc/selinux/config or in
/boot/grub/grub.conf.

In /etc/selinux/config, change SELinux to DISABLED.

OR

In /boot/grub/grub.conf, add selinux=0 to the kernel line.

E.g. kernel /vmlinuz ro root=/dev/sda2 selinux=0

You shouldn't start X server or login to GNOME as root.


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Re: help (What I really wanted to say....)

[Hiisi]

2009/11/16 Ed Greshko :
> Roger wrote:
>> On 11/15/2009 08:37 PM, Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) wrote:
>>> On 15/11/09 00:23, Ed Greshko wrote:
 Ralph Gorrill wrote:
> I yhave a DELL lap top that one of my employess loaded FEDORA on
> with out telling anyone...I need to remove it...he is gone and I
> have no password...can anyone help me please.
>
>> Why the fuss
>>
>> Just say it's impossible to remove - Fedora is there for his enjoyment
>> and appreciation.
>>
> Nobody is fussing  It isn't impossible to "remove".  That would be
> erroneous information.
>

For many people on this list it's really impossible to remove Fedora
from their computers (including myself). Sounds like the end of the
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trying to understand SELinux message

[Paul Allen Newell]

Hello:

I just upgraded two of my systems to latest yum update 
(2.6.30.9-96.fc11.i686.PAE) with the hopes that the CD and DVD issues 
have been resolved (they have, almost, but thats a separate bugzilla 
report).


What I am querying about in this email is a message that I am seeing 
when I log in as root (yes, I know the caveats and try to respect, but I 
always make sure the ability is there if I need it). I log in from the 
start page GUI and there are no problems until, after a couple of 
seconds later, a pop-up from the "star icon in the upper right" says I 
got problems. I open it up and it says:


"SELinux is preventing the gdm-session-wor from using potentially 
mislabeled files (/root)."


Okay, that's nice to know, but I have no idea what it is trying to tell 
me needs to be fixed. I've got a couple files in the home directory but 
nothing looks funny about them (*.txt cut-and-paste of yum 
update/installs and an html of "how-to-install f11 from scratch").


I have edited both /etc/pam.d/gdm and /etc/pam.d/gdm-password per Fedora 
website instructions to allow root access.


Closer inspection says that I first began getting this message on 
20jun09 after a yum update (I did original f11 install at the beginning 
of June). I just hadn't noticed it since I don't often log in as root, 
though I do remember seeing something in the summer and figuring it was 
a glip that would get fixed in future updates).


Any suggestions as to what I should be looking for to get rid of this 
message ... if I do indeed actually need to pay attention to it. If 
there is more info I can provide, please let me know what it is and how 
to get it and I will gladly post such.


Thanks in advance,
Paul


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Re: Saving Flash

[Marcel Rieux]

On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 7:56 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
 wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-11-15 at 16:44 -0500, Marcel Rieux wrote:
>> Let's see what I can find just for you... How about "About Schmidt",
>> at Warner's?
>>
>> http://www.wbshop.com/on/demandware.store/Sites-WB-Site/default/Product-Show?pid=132396
>
> Complains about not having Javascript, even though I do (and it's
> enabled). I can't be bothered debugging broken websites.

Well, the website is not broken here ;)

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Re: Saving Flash

[Marcel Rieux]

On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Ed Greshko  wrote:
> Marcel Rieux wrote:

>> It doesn't save a file in /tmp. As a bonus, since it's not political,
>> it's not off topic. Perfect for Linux geeks!
>>
>>
> That one was easy
>
> wget
> http://pdl.warnerbros.com/trailers/alphanum/00a/about_schmidt_4x3ff_tlr_480x.flv

I've been had with this one. Since I found no file in /tmp, I assumed
there would be no URL in the code of the page.

This one, I believe, would be a better challenge:

http://video.pbs.org/video/1082087546/

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Re: Saving Flash

[Gene Heskett]

On Sunday 15 November 2009, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>On Sun, 2009-11-15 at 16:44 -0500, Marcel Rieux wrote:
>> Let's see what I can find just for you... How about "About Schmidt",
>> at Warner's?
>>
>> http://www.wbshop.com/on/demandware.store/Sites-WB-Site/default/Product-S
>>how?pid=132396
>
>Complains about not having Javascript, even though I do (and it's
>enabled). I can't be bothered debugging broken websites.
>
>poc
>
It works for me on F10 with a 2.6.32-rc7 kernel, Patrick.  NoScript said 3 of 
6 links were blocked, but the page looked good, and I assume I could have 
bought the dvd if I had any interest in doing so.

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Re: Fedora server consuming all memory and grinding to a halt

[Tom Horsley]

On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:53:27 +1100
Langdon Stevenson wrote:

> Given these servers' perfect record in the past I am wondering if anyone
> can suggest what might be going on?  Or how best to try to track down
> the reason.

I had a similar problem once and put a cron job in to run every
few minutes and log the output of a ps command to a file with
an output format that showed PID, VM size, and process start time.

Then I whipped out a perl script to analyze the logs, find PIDs
that were running a long time, and kept using more memory the
longer they run.

Of course, that just found what was leaking, it didn't find out
why it was leaking :-).

(And no, I don't think I have any of the scripts around anymore :-).

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Re: Saving Flash

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sun, 2009-11-15 at 16:44 -0500, Marcel Rieux wrote:
> Let's see what I can find just for you... How about "About Schmidt",
> at Warner's?
> 
> http://www.wbshop.com/on/demandware.store/Sites-WB-Site/default/Product-Show?pid=132396

Complains about not having Javascript, even though I do (and it's
enabled). I can't be bothered debugging broken websites.

poc

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Fedora server consuming all memory and grinding to a halt

[Langdon Stevenson]

Hi,

I have three Fedora server (two are F8, one is F6) that have all been
running (literally) for years.  They are all in different
locations/networks but for an unknown reason all of them have used up
all of their ram and stopped responding to ssh, ping etc.  This happened
at different times to each machine over the last two weeks.

Rebooting resolves the problem and it has not re-occurred as yet.

I can find no indication in the logs that anything odd was happening.

Two of the servers have http and SMTP open to the Internet, but one
doesn't.  Two are connected to each other, one isn't.  There doesn't
seem to be any common vulnerability (like a common process exposed to
the Internet)

Given these servers' perfect record in the past I am wondering if anyone
can suggest what might be going on?  Or how best to try to track down
the reason.

Langdon

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Re: how many 32-bit packages does sun's java sdk need?

[Steve Forsythe]

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Robert P. J. Day wrote:
|   apparently, for something i'm trying to build, i really do need
| sun's java rather than openjdk, so i grabbed the .bin file from sun
| and executed it only to have it complain about not finding
| libgcc_s.so.  oh, crap ... the executable is 32-bit and i'm running on
| x86_64.
|
|   so install the i686 version, only to have it fail on yet another
| missing shared lib:  libXext.so.6.  yes, i could install the 32-bit
| version of that as well but how much further is this going to go?  is
| there a reason there's no 64-bit version of that SDK?  i *really*
| hate polluting my system with 32-bit packages.
|
| rday
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| 
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|
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|
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| 
|

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding exactly what you're trying to do - there's
definitely 64-bit version of Sun's SDK available. If you go to their
download page at http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/widget/jdk6.jsp
there's a pulldown that lists 9 different platforms including Linux x64.
~  I've been using it for several years now.

HTH.

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Re: Cannot install VMware-server-1.0.10

[Kevin J. Cummings]

On 11/15/2009 03:21 PM, Paul Smith wrote:
> Dear All,
> 
> I am trying to install
> 
> #rpm -qa VMware-server
> VMware-server-1.0.10-203137.i386
> 
> but when running the command
> 
> vmware-config.pl
> 
> I get the errors below.
> 
> Any ideas?

vmware-server is only "supported" for RHEL and the like.  Fedora is too
bleeding edge for them, so their kernel compatibility is behind.

You will have to rely on finding the appropriate patches, and applying
them so that vmware-config.pl builds on your kernel.

I recently updated to VMware-server-2.0.2-203138.x86_64 (had been
running 2.0.1) and I had to find a new set of patches to get running
again on F11.  I found them, and a script to apply them (nice!).
While it still leaves me with compilation warnings, it *does* compile
and run for me on kernel-2.6.30.9-96.fc11.x86_64.

> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Paul

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how many 32-bit packages does sun's java sdk need?

[Robert P. J. Day]

  apparently, for something i'm trying to build, i really do need
sun's java rather than openjdk, so i grabbed the .bin file from sun
and executed it only to have it complain about not finding
libgcc_s.so.  oh, crap ... the executable is 32-bit and i'm running on
x86_64.

  so install the i686 version, only to have it fail on yet another
missing shared lib:  libXext.so.6.  yes, i could install the 32-bit
version of that as well but how much further is this going to go?  is
there a reason there's no 64-bit version of that SDK?  i *really*
hate polluting my system with 32-bit packages.

rday
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Using cups to print from a fedora machine to an XP machine.

[Aaron Konstam]

II had printing working from a fedora machine to a Windows XP machine
but unfortunately the Fedora machine went belly up. And I can't find any
trace of the cups line using the smb://protocol that supported the
printing. I have given myself the appropriate 10 lashes but would
someone help me and tell me what the smb:// line looks like?

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Re: Saving Flash

[Ed Greshko]

Marcel Rieux wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 11:17 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
>  wrote:
>
>   
>>> The day you succeed in saving a flv file at the CBC, the BBC or any
>>> other place where the file does not readily appear in /tmp, you tell
>>> me. All the steps. I'll be glad to double-check.
>>>   
>
>   
>> Since I don't live in the UK or Canada, and hence cannot get access to
>> these streams, the question is moot.
>> 
>
> Big problem... I mean, it's not like if you were living in a big place
> like Iqaluit. These people have wide access  to Flash.
>
> Let's see what I can find just for you... How about "About Schmidt",
> at Warner's?
>
> http://www.wbshop.com/on/demandware.store/Sites-WB-Site/default/Product-Show?pid=132396
>
> It doesn't save a file in /tmp. As a bonus, since it's not political,
> it's not off topic. Perfect for Linux geeks!
>
>   
That one was easy

wget
http://pdl.warnerbros.com/trailers/alphanum/00a/about_schmidt_4x3ff_tlr_480x.flv

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Re: help (What I really wanted to say....)

[Ed Greshko]

Roger wrote:
> On 11/15/2009 08:37 PM, Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) wrote:
>> On 15/11/09 00:23, Ed Greshko wrote:
>>> Ralph Gorrill wrote:
 I yhave a DELL lap top that one of my employess loaded FEDORA on
 with out telling anyone...I need to remove it...he is gone and I
 have no password...can anyone help me please.

> Why the fuss
>
> Just say it's impossible to remove - Fedora is there for his enjoyment
> and appreciation.
>
Nobody is fussing  It isn't impossible to "remove".  That would be
erroneous information. 



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Re: help (What I really wanted to say....)

[Aaron Konstam]

On Sun, 2009-11-15 at 08:22 -0800, BobW wrote: 
> Have mercy on this poor person. He is probably a manager, and not a
> techie. Perhaps it might be good to let him know that he can download a
> liveCD and change the password. He can then try Fedora and be
> intelligent enough to realize that he really doesn't want to remove it
> after all.
> 
> BMW
That is not what he wanted to do. Just to change the root passwd he
could boot to init level 1 
> 
> On Sun, 2009-11-15 at 08:23 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> > Ralph Gorrill wrote:
> > > I yhave a DELL lap top that one of my employess loaded FEDORA on with out 
> > > telling anyone...I need to remove it...he is gone and I have no 
> > > password...can anyone help me please.
> > >
> > >   
> > You don't indicate which version of Fedora was installed.
> > 
> > Starting with Fedora 11 the boot loader includes the latest DMM
> > technology.  
> > The upcoming Fedora 12 will have the follow on to DMM with the first
> > release of DSM.  
> 
> > The follow on to DSM is DFM.  DFM is in early development and its
> > release schedule has not been determined.  
> > Good luck, for now.
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Re: help (What I really wanted to say....)

[Roger]

On 11/15/2009 08:37 PM, Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) wrote:

On 15/11/09 00:23, Ed Greshko wrote:

Ralph Gorrill wrote:
I yhave a DELL lap top that one of my employess loaded FEDORA on 
with out telling anyone...I need to remove it...he is gone and I 
have no password...can anyone help me please.



Why the fuss

Just say it's impossible to remove - Fedora is there for his enjoyment 
and appreciation.


R

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Re: Saving Flash

[Marcel Rieux]

On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 11:17 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
 wrote:

>> The day you succeed in saving a flv file at the CBC, the BBC or any
>> other place where the file does not readily appear in /tmp, you tell
>> me. All the steps. I'll be glad to double-check.

> Since I don't live in the UK or Canada, and hence cannot get access to
> these streams, the question is moot.

Big problem... I mean, it's not like if you were living in a big place
like Iqaluit. These people have wide access  to Flash.

Let's see what I can find just for you... How about "About Schmidt",
at Warner's?

http://www.wbshop.com/on/demandware.store/Sites-WB-Site/default/Product-Show?pid=132396

It doesn't save a file in /tmp. As a bonus, since it's not political,
it's not off topic. Perfect for Linux geeks!

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F11: Screensaver - causes system to hang, daily

[Daniel B. Thurman]

After all of this time testing out F11, I had
originally thought there was something wrong
with FireFox/Thunderbird, or simply xorg. It
was causing my system to completely hang
and a hard reboot was required.  There is
no system logs ever reported, just a gap of
dead-time when the system hung to when it
was booted.

I seemed to have finally narrowed it down and
have not experienced daily complete systems
hangs after disabling the Gnome ScreenSaver.

I tried GSS with a blank screen and everything
else I could think of and it does not prevent
the hanging problem.  But if I completely disable
the GSS, i.e. uncheck both:

(1) "Activate screensaver when computer is idle"
(2) "Lock screen when screensaver is active"

My system has been running F11 for a week now,
and it has not hung at all.  Unfortunately, my
computer is without security, short of logging out.

Has anyone else experienced this problem?

My system is a ASUS P5GC-MX/1333 if that helps.

FWIW,
Dan

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Re: Strange Nautilus behavior after updates and rebooting machine with VNC connection

[KC8LDO]

Michael;

Great, so its not just me and I'm not going nuts.

Thanks;

Leland C. Scott
KC8LDO

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From: "Michael D. Setzer II" 

To: "KC8LDO" ; 
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 4:54 AM
Subject: Re: Strange Nautilus behavior after updates and rebooting machine 
with VNC connection




On 15 Nov 2009 at 0:21, KC8LDO wrote:

From:   "KC8LDO" 
To: 
Date sent:  Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:21:17 -0500
Organization:   Private Account
Subject:Strange Nautilus behavior after updates and rebooting
machine with
VNC connection
Send reply to:  KC8LDO , "Community assistance,
encouragement,
and advice for using Fedora." 
and advice for using Fedora." 



Anybody notice strange Nautilus behavior after updates and rebooting 
machine

with a persistent VNC connection setup?  I don't leave the machine on all
the time thus the rebooting. I've been getting rather annoyed with the 
way

Nautilus is failing to display my home folder's contents after doing a
routine update and rebooting the machine. Clicking on the home folder 
icon
will open the Nautilus application and display an empty window, on the 
right
hand side, where the contents of my home folder should be. The icon in 
the

upper right corner of the window has the spinning effect, like its doing
something, but nothing ever seems to show up. Nautilus will display the
folder contents of other folders just fine, just not my home folder after 
an
update reboot sequence. I did find that rebooting a second time always 
seems

to fix the problem, why I don't know.

I also have two applications that crash on me every time as well, 
nm-applet

and gnome-setting daemon, both while using a VNC session over my home LAN
when first booted up and connecting using VNC. The above two applications
don't seem to crash when logging in with a directly attached console
however. The application crashing I posted the crash report to the gnome
mailing list.



I've seen the same thing from time to time. I actually disabled the two 
applets

that caused the problem. The problem with nautilus happens from time to
time, and it evenually does load, but then all desktop icons are gone. 
I've
generally found that another restart will bring it back, but it is 
annoying.




73's

Leland C. Scott
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Re: help (What I really wanted to say....)

[Ed Greshko]

BobW wrote:
> Have mercy on this poor person. He is probably a manager, and not a
> techie. Perhaps it might be good to let him know that he can download a
> liveCD and change the password. He can then try Fedora and be
> intelligent enough to realize that he really doesn't want to remove it
> after all.
>   
You misunderstood the point of the humor.  It wasn't directed at
anyone.  It was simply a manifesto on plans for Linux to take over the
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Cannot install VMware-server-1.0.10

[Paul Smith]

Dear All,

I am trying to install

#rpm -qa VMware-server
VMware-server-1.0.10-203137.i386

but when running the command

vmware-config.pl

I get the errors below.

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance,

Paul

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In file included from /tmp/vmware-config4/vmmon-only/linux/vmhost.h:13,
 from /tmp/vmware-config4/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:116:
/tmp/vmware-config4/vmmon-only/./include/compat_semaphore.h:5:27:
error: asm/semaphore.h: No such file or directory
/tmp/vmware-config4/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c: In function 'LinuxDriver_Ioctl':
/tmp/vmware-config4/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:1811: error: 'struct
task_struct' has no member named 'euid'
/tmp/vmware-config4/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:1811: error: 'struct
task_struct' has no member named 'uid'
/tmp/vmware-config4/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:1812: error: 'struct
task_struct' has no member named 'fsuid'
/tmp/vmware-config4/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:1812: error: 'struct
task_struct' has no member named 'uid'
/tmp/vmware-config4/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:1813: error: 'struct
task_struct' has no member named 'egid'
/tmp/vmware-config4/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:1813: error: 'struct
task_struct' has no member named 'gid'
/tmp/vmware-config4/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:1814: error: 'struct
task_struct' has no member named 'fsgid'
/tmp/vmware-config4/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:1814: error: 'struct
task_struct' has no member named 'gid'
/tmp/vmware-config4/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:1831: error: too many
arguments to function 'smp_call_function'
make[2]: *** [/tmp/vmware-config4/vmmon-only/linux/driver.o] Error 1
make[1]: *** [_module_/tmp/vmware-config4/vmmon-only] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernels/2.6.30.9-96.fc11.x86_64'
make: *** [vmmon.ko] Error 2
make: Leaving directory `/tmp/vmware-config4/vmmon-only'
Unable to build the vmmon module.

For more information on how to troubleshoot module-related problems, please
visit our Web site at "http://www.vmware.com/download/modules/modules.html"; and
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Re: Grub ??

[Daniel B. Thurman]

On 11/15/2009 10:43 AM, Jim wrote:
> FC 11
>
> We have two Linux distros installed on one hard drive.
>
> How do I in fedora tell grub to show both  Distros on the Boot Menu at
> boot start up so I may select select one of two at Boot start.
> If I do a  grub-install /dev/hda from Fedora it will only show the
> Fedora Kernels at Boot Menu and not the other Linux OS.
>
> And what is even worse is if the other Distro does a Kernel update
> it's not shown in the Boot menu at start up.
>
>
> I know I could tell yum.conf not to update kernels, but I don't want
> that.
>
> I'm using Mint as second Distro. and at boot startup Mint in it's boot
> Menu does not give you the "apend" (a) feature but Fedora does.
>

[ Warning: Long explanation! ]

I am not sure if this applies to your request, but
I have posted a long and detailed explanation
some time ago, but the gist of it is to have a
"master" grub (boot-sys) that refers to the
"slave" boot/root-osN in the extended partitions.

This structure segregates the various linux
distros into it's own areas with it's own boot/root
partitions.

This scheme works well for me and I have many
distros, debian, fedora[9,10,11], ubuntu[8,9]
and so on.

For example, look at the following structure:

  Part#1Part#2   Part#3  Part#4: Extended
+==+===++=== =+
| boot-sys  | boot-bkup | swap  | Ext [ | boot-os1 | root-os1 | boot-os2
| root-os2 | ... | l-App1 | w-App2 | ... ]  |
+==+===++=== =+
100M >100M  2xMEM  100M 100G ...

Notes:

(1) boot-sys can be *any* grub you want, and you
  can add your own local customization as desired.
  Keep in mind that you can control what you want
  seen here, regardless of what os you have anywhere
  and grub can see all drives, anywhere so as long as
  you properly define it.

  To ensure that your MBR is correctly set, simply
  do:

   # grub  (as root user)
   > find /grub/stage1 (this shows all grub partitions, if any)
   > root (hd0,0)   # This is the GRUB partition location
   > setup (hd0)   # This puts MBR on the drive

   Make SURE that each of your boot-osX-dY is similary
   done for each partition. For example: for boot-os1-d1:

   # grub (as root)
   > root (hd0,3)
   > setup (hd(0,3)

   repeat above for 5,7,... if these exist

  Here is what my boot-sys looks like:

# ===
# Master boot-sys-d1
# ===
#boot=/dev/sdX where X is your boot drive
#hiddenmenu
splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/my_splash.xpm.gz
default=saved
timeout=5

title Fedora 8
rootnoverify (hd0,04)
chainloader +1
savedefault
title Fedora 9
rootnoverify (hd0,06)
chainloader +1
savedefault
title Fedora 11
rootnoverify (hd0,08)
chainloader +1
savedefault
title Debian 5
rootnoverify (hd0,10)
chainloader +1
savedefault
title Ubuntu 9
rootnoverify (hd0,12)
chainloader +1
savedefault
title Windows Vista
rootnoverify (hd2,2)
chainloader +1
savedefault
title Windows XP
map (hd0) (hd2)
map (hd2) (hd0)
rootnoverify (hd2,1)
chainloader +1
savedefault
title Windows 2000
map (hd0) (hd2)
map (hd2) (hd0)
rootnoverify (hd2,0)
chainloader +1
savedefault


(2) For SATA drives, you are allowed up to a maximum
  of 15 partitions, 3 primaries, and 12 extended.

(3) For PATA drives, I am not sure what the max is, probably the
  same as SATA?

(4) For IDE drives, it's more than 15, but I cannot remember
 off-hand, but something like 23?

(5) If you wish to boot off another drive with it's own partitions
 you can apply the same scheme, except when using labels
 instead of UUID, you must make sure that the labels are
 unique - in my case, I use the same names as shown above
 but added -d1, -d2, ..., dN and the end of each of the above
 names, for example: for drive "1", boot-sys would be
 boot-sys-d1 as for the rest of the labels on drive "1", and
 the second drive partitions would have "-d2" and so on.

I do the labeling in this way because I wanted to ensure that
if should one of the drives "dies", I can switch in BIOS the drive
to boot and do a recovery or a disk replacement.  Of course, if
you have a RAID system, all of this might be unnecessary.

I just wanted total separation between the two drives and
no RAID - since the "other" drive is my "backup".  In a RAID
system, if you screw up the OS, it's over.  With total separation
you have a chance but of course, like any backup scheme, the
data is only as good as your most recent backup.  The problem
I have with backups is, where to save it - and if you do not have
a secondary drive to boot - well, it's a royal pain and set it all
up - new drive, restore, etc. but in this way - I can switch over
to the backup and begin

Re: Grub ??

[Mikkel]

Jim wrote:
> FC 11
> 
> We have two Linux distros installed on one hard drive.
> 
> How do I in fedora tell grub to show both  Distros on the Boot Menu at
> boot start up so I may select select one of two at Boot start.
> If I do a  grub-install /dev/hda from Fedora it will only show the
> Fedora Kernels at Boot Menu and not the other Linux OS.
> 
> And what is even worse is if the other Distro does a Kernel update it's
> not shown in the Boot menu at start up.
> 
> 
> I know I could tell yum.conf not to update kernels, but I don't want that.
> 
> I'm using Mint as second Distro. and at boot startup Mint in it's boot
> Menu does not give you the "apend" (a) feature but Fedora does.
> 
One way I have done this is to install the boot loader for the
second distribution to the partition boot record instead of the mbr.
(/dev/sda2 instead of /dev/sda where /dev/sda2 is the /boot
partition of the second install.) There may be an option to do this
during install. (Fedora offers it.) Or you can use:

grub-install --root-directory=/boot /dev/sda2

I then add an entry in the grub.conf for the first install that
chainloads to the second install. It means you get an extra menu for
the second install, but all menus are properly updated by kernel
upgrades.

title Mint
 root (0,0)
 chainloader hd(0,1)+1

This is based on Fedora /boot being on /dev/sda1 and Mint /boot
being on /dev/sda2 - you will have to change the hd(0,1) to match
your system.

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Grub ??

[Jim]

FC 11

We have two Linux distros installed on one hard drive.

How do I in fedora tell grub to show both  Distros on the Boot Menu at 
boot start up so I may select select one of two at Boot start.
If I do a  grub-install /dev/hda from Fedora it will only show the 
Fedora Kernels at Boot Menu and not the other Linux OS.


And what is even worse is if the other Distro does a Kernel update it's 
not shown in the Boot menu at start up.



I know I could tell yum.conf not to update kernels, but I don't want that.

I'm using Mint as second Distro. and at boot startup Mint in it's boot 
Menu does not give you the "apend" (a) feature but Fedora does.


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Re: disaster recovery Q's

[Tom H]

>>> In my experience,
>>> the UUID is also embedded internal to the initrd.img
>>> and this also should be consistent with the UUID in grub.conf

>>> [r...@localhost clean]# less init

>>> near the end look for "mkrootdev" line:
>>> echo Creating root device.
>>> mkrootdev -t ext3 -o defaults,ro
>>> UUID=54c84c0a-040b-43bd-8887-202519baaae2

>>> So my question remains:
>>> If i try to use labels instead of UUID, do i have to modify this
>>> mkrootdev line in init (initrd.img) ?

> I believe this was Tom H's question, not mine although I am the
> threads OP.

No. I was just replying to the "my question remains" above. I have not
asked any questions in this thread and I had no idea that the question
was not being asked by the original OP.

I have looked up your original questions in the archive:

(1) How do I go about doing a grub-install in a manner that when I take out the
dying drive and move the new drive to SATA0, it will reboot from this new
drive?

Booted from your old drive, chroot to your new drive and run
grub-install, etc... If your fstab uses labels or uuids, you will have
to update it.

(2) I just checked, and /etc/fstab is using UUID's, how can that be fixed, or
should I just put it back to LABEL's and be done with it. That drive is
labeled, but I don't believe its  /boot for /boot, so how do I get the labels
off the drive? Or should I just relabel it to gigo?

More or less answered above. Use tune2fs (if you are using ext2/3/4)
to set the labels (or the uuids if you want to set them by hand).

(3) And, if I rsync each directory tree to the new drive, will that
move the UUID
and/or labels too?

No. The label and uuid are in the superblock and its backups and will
not be copied by rsync.


>> As long as the UUID in init (in initrd) and the root entry in
>> grub.conf (whether UUID, LABEL, or /dev/) point to the same
>> partition, you are OK.

> You may want to check your facts on that actually being in the
> initrd file. My 2.6.32-rc6 initrd, copied from the failing drive
> with 'rsync -avcAX src target' syntax, which I booted with after
> swapping a new drive onto the sata1 connector, did not require a
> rebuild, I simply changed grub.conf to use a
> 'root=LABEL=sea-slash' while in rescue mode and chroot'ed, fixed
> a couple of other typu's, did a 'grub-install /dev/sda" and
> rebooted.  If its in there, then it is apparently being
> over-ridden by the data in the new /etc/fstab.

My facts are correct and I do not need to check them but I will
re-phrase my statement:

You can refer to the / of a disk with /dev/sdX, label, uuid in the
kernel line of grub.conf, the / line of fstab, the mkrootdev line of
init in initrd as long as they all refer to the same disk - and you
can mix and match the three ways in the same install.


> Logically, the root (hd0,0) must over-ride any UUID's that may
> be in the initrd.img, otherwise it could not possibly have found
> even the grub.conf to show me at boot time.

The root line of grub.config does not refer to / but to the partition
that holds the grub files. The kernel line sets where / is through the
"root=" statement. Since you have /boot on a separate partition, you
can check that directly.


> Some _real_ docs on grub would be VERY nice.

There is good documentation for grub 0.97 (grub 1):
http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html

Grub 1.97 (grub 2) is less well documented.

There is a wiki that
http://www.gnu.org/software/grub
refers to. It is
http://grub.enbug.org
(Why this could not be within the
http://www.gnu.org/software/grub
is a mystery to me.)

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
also has some good information given that Ubuntu is now using Grub 2
by default for new installs.


>> That it why you can switch the grub.conf entries without
>> having to change the UUID (or whatever other way that you
>> are pointing to the root partition).

> In my case, /boot is a separate partition, so in base 0
> notation, its all 'root (hd0,0)' on a line by itself. And it
> Just Works(TM)  I can, in a different grub.conf stanza on
> (hd0,0)/grub/grub.conf, specify root (hd3,0), then the UUID of
> the / partition that contains another distributions / directory
> and boot to it just fine.

See above.

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Re: Help! I cannot unsuspend from disk. [solved]

[Petrus de Calguarium]

solved. thanks for the great help.

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Re: Has anyone used bash4 under Fedora 10, 11 or 12?

[Sam Sharpe]

2009/11/15 Todd Zullinger :
> Steven W. Orr wrote:
>> Does it cause problems? Does it work ok?
>
> It's been used in rawhide for many months now, and what will be Fedora
> 12.  I've seen various minor issues reported and fixed on the bug-bash
> list.  Fedora 12 currently has bash 4.0.33 (which is only slightly
> behind upstream's 4.0.35 -- and will likely be pushed as an update
> eventually).

I hadn't even noticed, but I've been using it for a couple of weeks :o)

[...@samlap ~]$ echo $BASH_VERSION
4.0.33(1)-release

[...@samlap ~]$ cat /etc/redhat-release
Fedora release 12 (Constantine)

Seems fine to me - my work is heavily based in a shell and I haven't
noticed any difference.

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Re: Has anyone used bash4 under Fedora 10, 11 or 12?

[Todd Zullinger]

Steven W. Orr wrote:
> Does it cause problems? Does it work ok?

It's been used in rawhide for many months now, and what will be Fedora
12.  I've seen various minor issues reported and fixed on the bug-bash
list.  Fedora 12 currently has bash 4.0.33 (which is only slightly
behind upstream's 4.0.35 -- and will likely be pushed as an update
eventually).

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Has anyone used bash4 under Fedora 10, 11 or 12?

[Steven W. Orr]

Does it cause problems? Does it work ok?

TIA

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is there a fairly new linux framebuffer howto?

[Robert P. J. Day]

  a friend want to know about framebuffers, so i figured i'd do that
google thing and came up with this:

  http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Framebuffer-HOWTO.html

that's pretty dated -- is there something newer on the topic?  the
contents of the kernel documentation under Documentation/fb looks
pretty ancient as well, at least some of it.

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Alpine paragraph justification failing

[Beartooth]

Many times, when I hit ^J amid text in compose mode, it merely 
makes a mess; and trying to mitigate that only keeps making it worse.

This is with Alpine 2.0 under Fedora 11; I haven't yet managed to 
spot a pattern in when it happens.

I asked on the Alpine list, and was told inter alia that "Alpine 
2.00 in Fedora 11 has been known to have bugs not related to 
Alpine, but to gcc. You may want to report this to them and see if they 
can duplicate it."

What I know of gcc, alas!, would go in a gnat's eye. Can anyone 
here help??

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Re: help (What I really wanted to say....)

[BobW]

Have mercy on this poor person. He is probably a manager, and not a
techie. Perhaps it might be good to let him know that he can download a
liveCD and change the password. He can then try Fedora and be
intelligent enough to realize that he really doesn't want to remove it
after all.

BMW

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> Ralph Gorrill wrote:
> > I yhave a DELL lap top that one of my employess loaded FEDORA on with out 
> > telling anyone...I need to remove it...he is gone and I have no 
> > password...can anyone help me please.
> >
> >   
> You don't indicate which version of Fedora was installed.
> 
> Starting with Fedora 11 the boot loader includes the latest DMM
> technology.  
> The upcoming Fedora 12 will have the follow on to DMM with the first
> release of DSM.  

> The follow on to DSM is DFM.  DFM is in early development and its
> release schedule has not been determined.  
> Good luck, for now.
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Re: Compiling a i386 kernel on a x64 system.

[Michael D. Setzer II]

The kernel has nothing to do with a fedora system, other than that I build the 
kernels on my fedora machine, and have done so with fedora for many 
version.

The kernels build are single standalone files for use with the g4l project and 
its boot process. Here is part of the isolinux.cfg file that loads the various 
kernels that can be used on various hardware combinations.

LABEL bz20.4
MENU LABEL ^A: bz20.4 386 build 2.6.20.1 02-21-2007
KERNEL bz20.4
APPEND initrd=ramdisk.gz ramdisk_size=65536 root=/dev/ram0 noacpi
LABEL bz21.6
MENU LABEL ^B: bz21.6 386 build 2.6.21.6 07-04-2007
KERNEL bz21.6
APPEND initrd=ramdisk.gz ramdisk_size=65536 root=/dev/ram0 noacpi
LABEL bz22.6
MENU LABEL ^C: bz22.6 386 build 2.6.22.6 08-31-2007
KERNEL bz22.6
APPEND initrd=ramdisk.gz ramdisk_size=65536 root=/dev/ram0 noacpi
LABEL bz23.14
MENU LABEL ^D: bz23.14 386 build 2.6.23.1 01-14-2008
KERNEL bz23.14
APPEND initrd=ramdisk.gz ramdisk_size=65536 root=/dev/ram0 noacpi
LABEL bz24.4
MENU LABEL ^E: bz24.4 386 build 2.6.24.4 03-24-2008
KERNEL bz24.4
APPEND initrd=ramdisk.gz ramdisk_size=65536 root=/dev/ram0 noacpi
LABEL bz25.10
MENU LABEL ^F: bz25.10 386 build 07-03-2008
KERNEL bz25.10
APPEND initrd=ramdisk.gz ramdisk_size=65536 root=/dev/ram0
LABEL bz26.6
MENU LABEL ^G: bz26.6 386 build 10-09-2008 
KERNEL bz26.6
APPEND initrd=ramdisk.gz ramdisk_size=65536 root=/dev/ram0 
LABEL bz27.10
MENU LABEL ^H: bz27.10 386 build 12-18-2008 
KERNEL bz27.10
APPEND initrd=ramdisk.gz ramdisk_size=65536 root=/dev/ram0 
LABEL bz28.8
MENU LABEL ^I: bz28.8 386 build 03-17-2009  
KERNEL bz28.8
APPEND initrd=ramdisk.gz ramdisk_size=65536 root=/dev/ram0 
LABEL bz29.4
MENU LABEL ^J: bz29.4 386 build 05-20-2009  
KERNEL bz29.4
APPEND initrd=ramdisk.gz ramdisk_size=65536 root=/dev/ram0 
LABEL bz30.9
MENU LABEL ^K: bz30.9 386 build 10-05-2009  
KERNEL bz30.9
APPEND initrd=ramdisk.gz ramdisk_size=65536 root=/dev/ram0 
LABEL bz31.6
MENU DEFAULT
MENU LABEL ^L: bz31.6 386 build 11-10-2009  
KERNEL bz31.6
APPEND initrd=ramdisk.gz ramdisk_size=65536 root=/dev/ram0 

Most hardware works with the latest kernel, but some hardware doesn't, but 
works with older ones? I have an average of about 10,000 downloads per 
month of the project, so don't know all the hardware people use.

With my all past changes of the Fedora core to the next level, it is just 
copying the .config from the last build to the new system with the latest 
kernel.org and building it. I've used the processor option just over the 486 to 
provide largest level of hardware support. Didn't see a noticable preformance 
increase using a higher processor in the builds. 

With the Phenom II system, a build of the kernel with the same .config 
prompts for changes, and one is for the processor, and it provides only 64 bit 
options. I'm looking on how to be able to build a kernel in the same fashion. 
As I mentioned earlier, the new machine can build a kernel from scratch in 
about 12 minutes, but it would then only work on an x64 CPU. The x86 
kernels work for both, and have even used one of the x86 kernels on the x64 
machine to do a backup.

Perhaps there is some extra things that need to be loaded or configured to 
allow this.

Thanks.

Alan Cox had mentioned that this can be done, and I had tried to send a 
message directly to his address, but got no response. I know one of the 
kernel developers is Alan Cox, but may not be the same one.

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Re: spoof rsa fingerprint

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sun, 2009-11-15 at 02:32 -0800, Eugeneapolinary Ju wrote:
> so the attacker can't generate a spoofed fingerprint like the one used
> on the server? even when using only password authentication?

[Please don't top-post on this list. See the Guidelines]

Did you read the URL I posted? It's a tutorial with very explicit
information. If you understand how public-key crypto works, you'll
realize that spoofing the fingerprint doesn't help the attacker.

Also, password-only authentication only happens *after* the secure
channel is established. See the ssh(1) manpage:

Finally, if other authentication methods fail, ssh prompts the
user for a password.  The password is sent to the remote host
for
checking; however, since all communications are encrypted, the
password cannot be seen by someone listening on the network.

All this assumes that the client and server have had a previous
communication where they set up their keys, which is why in the scenario
you asked about ssh checks the fingerprint. Obviously if the server has
never had such a previous communication, it has no way of genuinely
authenticating the client within the session, so the user either has to
assume averything is OK the first time, or use an out-of-band channel
such as a physical file copy to establish the keys on either side.

poc

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Re: man 3 switch

[Jerry Feldman]

On 11/14/2009 12:44 PM, Mark Perew wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 5:46 AM, Ed Greshko  > wrote:>
>
> There is even no "man 3 switch" on RHEL4.  When was the last time you
>
>
> For what it's worth ... there is no "man 3 switch" on NetBSD.  I can
> check AIX on Monday and report on that, too.
>
As has been said before, switch is a C language keyword NOT a library
function. The Unix/Linux man pages are limited to commands(1 + 8),
system calls(2), libraries(3), Special File(4), File Formant (5),
games(6),Conventions and other stuff like standards(7).

There is no man page for language components, such as switch in C, for
in Fortan of Python, or any other language. Additionally, you will not
find a switch function in any of the core Linux libraries.

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Re: help

[Alan Cox]

On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 10:16:28 -0800 (PST)
Ralph Gorrill  wrote:

> I yhave a DELL lap top that one of my employess loaded FEDORA on with out 
> telling anyone...I need to remove it...he is gone and I have no 
> password...can anyone help me please.

Set the BIOS to boot off CD first and shove in the CD/DVD that came with
the Dell to reinstall the original OS image. That should do the trick
just fine.

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Re: Compiling a i386 kernel on a x64 system.

[Paulo Cavalcanti]

On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 1:56 AM, Michael D. Setzer II <
mi...@kuentos.guam.net> wrote:

> On 14 Nov 2009 at 11:31, Paulo Cavalcanti wrote:
>
> Date sent:  Sat, 14 Nov 2009 11:31:02 -0200
> From:   Paulo Cavalcanti 
> To: "Community assistance, encouragement,
>and advice for using Fedora." 
> Subject:Re: Compiling a i386 kernel on a x64 system.
> Send reply to:  "Community assistance, encouragement,
>and advice for using Fedora." 
>and advice for using Fedora." 
>
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Michael D. Setzer II <
> mi...@kuentos.guam.net> wrote:
> > An earlier message stated that this can be done, but it doesn't seem
> to work
> > on my system, so perhaps I am missing something.
> >
> > I use the kernel.org source code, and copy the same .config file I
> use on the
> > i386 machine. If I run make menuconfig or just make, it prompts for
> > processor, and only give x86 options..
> >
> > The new phenom II 955 system can build a kernel in about 12 minutes
> > versus the 2 hours of the other system, so being able to build with
> the new
> > system would be a real advantage.
> >
> > The i386 has Fedora 10, and the x64 has Fedora 11.
> >
> > Perhaps something else needs to be installed, or some option.
> >
> >
> > Use mock. Otherwise, it will be very difficult to accomplish what you
> want.
> > This is the simplest way of isolating your build from all of the 64 bit
> stuff
> > installed on your system.
> >
>
> In a look at mock, it seems to be for srpms builds. I'm looking at building
> a
> full kernel from source for use in the g4l project that I am the current
> maintainer of. Mostly the kernels are on the CD to allow users to boot and
> do
> disk imaging of the machines. The kernels can also be placed in grub and
> grub4dos as well, but are actually separate from the machine they are build
> on.
>
>
>

You can write your own kernel src.rpm.  You just need to change the source
tarball and adapt the kernel config.

Alternatively, you can open a shell to work, for instance:

mock -r fedora-10-i386 shell

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Re: spoof rsa fingerprint

[Eugeneapolinary Ju]

so the attacker can't generate a spoofed fingerprint like the one used on the 
server? even when using only password authentication?

--- On Sun, 11/15/09, Patrick O'Callaghan  wrote:

> From: Patrick O'Callaghan 
> Subject: Re: spoof rsa fingerprint
> To: fedora-list@redhat.com
> Date: Sunday, November 15, 2009, 1:27 AM
> On Sat, 2009-11-14 at 15:09 -0800,
> Eugeneapolinary Ju wrote:
> > When I first log in to my router [192.168.1.1] through
> ssh, it says:
> > 
> > The authenticity of host '.XX (192.168.1.1)' can't
> be established.
> > RSA key fingerprint is
> 51:c6:d1:7a:45:c4:74:3e:31:ee:3a:5a:2d:e1:bf:74.
> > Are you sure you want to continue connecting
> (yes/no)?
> > 
> > that's OK [it gets stored in the known_hosts file, on
> my client machine].
> > 
> > But:
> > 
> > what happens, if someone turns off my router, then
> installs a pc with ip 192.168.1.1?
> > 
> > And! - it spoofs _the same rsa fingerprint_, that was
> on my router.
> >
> > Then, when I want to log in to 192.168.1.1, I will
> type my password, and it will stole my password...
> >
> > So the question is:
> > 
> > Could that be possible, to spoof the rsa_fingerprint?
> [because the router say's the fingerprint when first logging
> in to it, etc..so could that be spoofed?]
> 
> The fingerprint is simply a hash of the router's full
> public key.
> Spoofing the fingerprint still won't enable the spoofer to
> understand
> encrypted communications sent to them (which will continue
> to use the
> router's genuine public key since the client hasn't noticed
> anything
> changed). The spoofer can't guess the private key from the
> public key
> without physical access to the router.
> 
> If the spoofer generates its own public/private key pair,
> the client
> will notice that the signature changed. That's the point of
> the warning
> message.
> 
> See http://www.securityfocus.com/infocus/1806
> 
> poc
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Re: Strange Nautilus behavior after updates and rebooting machine with VNC connection

[Michael D. Setzer II]

On 15 Nov 2009 at 0:21, KC8LDO wrote:

From:   "KC8LDO" 
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Subject:Strange Nautilus behavior after updates and rebooting 
machine with
VNC connection
Send reply to:  KC8LDO , "Community assistance, 
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and advice for using Fedora." 
and advice for using Fedora." 



> Anybody notice strange Nautilus behavior after updates and rebooting machine 
> with a persistent VNC connection setup?  I don't leave the machine on all 
> the time thus the rebooting. I've been getting rather annoyed with the way 
> Nautilus is failing to display my home folder's contents after doing a 
> routine update and rebooting the machine. Clicking on the home folder icon 
> will open the Nautilus application and display an empty window, on the right 
> hand side, where the contents of my home folder should be. The icon in the 
> upper right corner of the window has the spinning effect, like its doing 
> something, but nothing ever seems to show up. Nautilus will display the 
> folder contents of other folders just fine, just not my home folder after an 
> update reboot sequence. I did find that rebooting a second time always seems 
> to fix the problem, why I don't know.
> 
> I also have two applications that crash on me every time as well, nm-applet 
> and gnome-setting daemon, both while using a VNC session over my home LAN 
> when first booted up and connecting using VNC. The above two applications 
> don't seem to crash when logging in with a directly attached console 
> however. The application crashing I posted the crash report to the gnome 
> mailing list.
> 

I've seen the same thing from time to time. I actually disabled the two applets 
that caused the problem. The problem with nautilus happens from time to 
time, and it evenually does load, but then all desktop icons are gone.  I've 
generally found that another restart will bring it back, but it is annoying. 


> 73's
> 
> Leland C. Scott
> KC8LDO
> 
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Re: help (What I really wanted to say....)

[Frank Murphy (Frankly3D)]

On 15/11/09 00:23, Ed Greshko wrote:

Ralph Gorrill wrote:

I yhave a DELL lap top that one of my employess loaded FEDORA on with out 
telling anyone...I need to remove it...he is gone and I have no password...can 
anyone help me please.



You don't indicate which version of Fedora was installed.

--snipped--


Good luck, for now.




You forgot he needs to use a web-based FTSE registered courier,
for  return and repair of unknown versions installed on laptops
in the refactoring facility on Tristan De Cuhna.

With prior sending off of the battery in a separate package to
the facility in Durban, for health and safety reasons.

Form wat-at-roll needs to be finalised with dept. 4for,
in the usual manner and condition. Use only black ink.

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