Re: Recent losses

2005-05-29 Thread felv



When I picked up Moogie (post-cremation), I know 
it was hard, but the receptionist at my vet's office was so kind, it actually 
helped me to be around someone who was sympathetic when I picked her up. Sure, I 
cried in the office, but I don't think I could ever handle having my loved-ones 
ashes delivered like a pizza. To each his own, I suppose, but that just seems 
too informal of an ending for me. I can't imagine too many vet offices have 
enough employees with enough spare time to be hand delivering remains on a 
regular basis either, and I wouldn't ever trust UPS or Fed-Ex to treat them with 
the respect they deserve.
Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html 


~~~I 
collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who 
must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker 
collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free 
can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil!

If you use KMR, even just one can, please ask me for the mailing address 
you can send them to, to help feed Bazil!
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Bones... please help her!

2005-05-29 Thread Jenn



Hi everyone. Some of you may, or may not know 
about my newest rescue cat, Bones. She was almost dead when some local kids 
brought her to me last Wednesday night. I have nursed her out of severe 
hypothermia and starvation, but I am fairly sure she has a broken back (she 
still needs x-rays, and has an appointment on Wednesday). She is going to need 
surgery to stabilize the bones in her back, to ever get to have any normal 
quality of life, and be free of the pain she is in (she is in extreme pain if 
she moves at all now, it has gotten worse today than it was). I will be calling 
around tomorrow to area vets to get an estimate of the costs, and I will 
probably need help. If anyone can donate any amount to help Bones get her 
surgery, we would be very grateful. I will be setting up a special fund, 
andas soon as I know which vet I will be using, I will post the info. If 
any of you know (or are) a vet within a 100 mile radius of Vermont who would be 
willing to do Bone's surgery nowand take payments, please let me know! 


In addition, we would also be very grateful for 
any prayers and positive energy you could send our way right now. I lost my 
beloved Do-Dah to a broken spine in 1998, and this is very hard for me, but I 
refuse to let Bones die from injuries that could be fixed if only we had money. 
I will be working many hours and doing everything I can to get her into surgery 
as quickly as possible. The sooner she gets her spine stabilized, the better 
chance she will have of ever being able to walk again (she could walk yesterday, 
today she can barely stand). Of course, even if she needs a wheelchair, I will 
still be keeping her and doing everything I can tohelp her have as good of 
a quality of life as I possibly can. This is my shot at redemption, I believe, 
because I could not help Do-Dah when he has this same injury. Please keep us in 
your thoughts, if you can, we need all the help we can get.

Bones is a very tiny snowshoe girl, she is a seal 
point with ice blue eyes, a big meow, and a loud and grateful purr. I named her 
Bones because she was, literally, so thin you could see every bone in her body 
when she first arrived (yes, only 3 days of nursing have made a huge difference 
already!). Please send her any positive energy you can spare! She has such a big 
heart, for such a poor little thing!
Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html 


~~~I 
collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who 
must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker 
collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free 
can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil!

If you use KMR, even just one can, please ask me for the mailing address 
you can send them to, to help feed Bazil!
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Re: Jamie

2005-05-29 Thread felv



I remember one time, my boyfriend and I were 
having problems, and I was packing my things to leave (it never happened, but 
just the same), and I took Moogie's ashes, and I tucked them safely into my box, 
and I screamed "I'm taking Moogie, and you are NOT going to stop me!". I always 
still refer to her like she is still here, because to me, she will ALWAYS still 
be here! When I dust her memorial shelf, I talk to her, and tell her how much I 
miss her. Four years, a decade, a lifetime, it's all the same to me, and always 
will be. My love keeps her alive forever.

I've got to get off here tonight guys, it's just 
being a very hard night for me I haven't been this depressed in a long 
time.
Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html 


~~~I 
collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who 
must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker 
collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free 
can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil!

If you use KMR, even just one can, please ask me for the mailing address 
you can send them to, to help feed Bazil!
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Re: Jenn/your posts-a question

2005-05-29 Thread Karolyn Lount
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RE: Jenn/your posts-a question

2005-05-29 Thread Karolyn Lount
Hi, This message has a Black Background wth Blue letters, except for the
text that never changes and that type is Black on White




RE: Jenn/your posts-a question

2005-05-29 Thread Karolyn Lount
Hi, P.S. I was wrong on the background for the type that never chages.
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Re: OT: GA Kitten Faces Gas

2005-05-29 Thread Karolyn Lount
Hi, If I read your message correctly that this kitten FeLV+ I will take
him if someone can get him to me, I live  in the San Francisco Bay area




jersey

2005-05-29 Thread stany petrov
I think I will put Jersey to sleep tomorrow.

It is not fair to leave an outdoor cat suffer and not be able to walk.

I think not the leukimia but the kidney progressive failure is killing him. His voice is already very weak...

If anybody needs the Interferon I already have I might send it (plus some glavamox)


I hope the place where he goes is full with cats andjoy...


Stan




Re: Jersey

2005-05-29 Thread Belinda Sauro

 Hi Stan,
  Just for my own curiousity, did you try any of the good suggestions 
you where given, I only ask because you never posted about any results 
of anything you tried?  You where given some great suggestions, the 
liver shake, syringe feeding (if your not getting atleast a can of food 
a day it isn't going to do any good and Jersey will get weaker and 
weaker, not eating for a cat will bring on a whole slew of other deadly 
problems), and many suggested a new vet.


I told you that Jersey's potassium was low this is a fact and this 
ASOLUTELY causes back end weakness, the fact that the vet your seeing 
didn't say anything about it ESPECIALLY after you told her Jersey is 
having backend weakness tells me she isn't a very good vet, and probably 
doesn't see any point in treating a positive cat.  I'm not guessing at 
this I belong to several lists and many cats going through chemo have 
low potassium problems and EVERY SINGLE ONE'S first symptom is back end 
weakness.  Have you asked your vet about doxycyline for the possible 
hemobartonella?


I remember you saying you were going to try everything in your power to 
help Jersey so I'm just curious as to what results you got from the 
things you tried.  I know you have tried the interferon which is very 
good, but it isn't going to help the backend weakness.  How much food 
are you getting into Jersey a day?   Jersey is a young cat and has a 
good chance of bouncing back.


I'm not trying to be harsh, I'm just concerned, and emotionally involved 
now, so forgive me for asking these questions, but you asked for help 
and I'm just curious what you've tried and what the results where.


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Re: Recent losses

2005-05-29 Thread Nina

Jamie,
Now that's just down right weird!  Long life to Apollo!  I'm thrilled to 
hear the life span estimation is longer than it used to be.  I love 
those Danes!  Such gentlemen and ladies, so much better behaved than 
most children.

Nina

Jamie Laws wrote:


Nina,
 
Funny you should say that.  I don't know if I have mentioned it since 
re-joining the List, but one of my dogs IS a Great Dane.  And he 
turned 3 last month.  They have actually upped the lifespan average to 
7-10 years IF they are well cared for.  This is true of all the giant 
breeds- they have shorter life spans.  Anyway, the vet told me that 
the bigger they are, the shorter they should be expected to live.  Odd 
how breeding for size (backyard breeding anyway) is what people want- 
I want the BIGGEST Dane on the block is the mindset.  Well, I want the 
healthiest.  So I am GLAD that Apollo is small for a GD.  He is 120 
pounds and that is the small end for a female!  He should be 160-180 
but I guess he was the runt.  He did come from the shelter where I was 
volunteering.  A 7 week old pure bred Great Dane puppy doesn't come in 
the door often and when he did I grabbed him.  So, anyway, I thought 
your analogy was very ironic.  And very true.  I will use that the 
next time a vet suggests that you should PTS a Felv+ cat just because 
they are Felv+. 
 
Jamie


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Re: emergency advice on starved cat needed

2005-05-29 Thread Nina

Jenn,
Hooray for Bones and her new family!  I love her and I've never even met 
her.  I knew you two didn't have a chance of escaping her charm!

Nina

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi Laurie.
 
I've named her Bones. She's going to live, in fact she's looking 
very good now. All rehydrated and eating well on her own now. I'm 
awaiting funds to get her to the vet, I wont have any money until 
Wednesday. However, she seems to be MUCH improved with just some home 
nursing. My main concern now is that she seems to have an injury in 
her pelvis or back, as she has limited motion, and is in pain when she 
moves (or is moved). I've called two different vets, and both say I am 
doing everything right so far, and that even if it IS a pelvic 
fracture, they usually do NOT repair those, and just let them heal on 
their own. I'm keeping her in a small room so she does not injure 
herself further for now, until I can know for sure where the injury is 
(if it's her back she needs to be as still as possible until it 
heals). She's eating the dry Innova Evo food, and drinking some water, 
but I am still supplementing her with the wet mixture of canned food, 
pedialyte and nutra-cal, for the extra hydration and calories, plus 
she's getting a cat vitamin a day. She has gone potty, and there is NO 
blood in her poop or pee, so that is a GREAT sign that either it is a 
very minor pelvic fracture, or not a pelvic fracture at all (the 
biggest danger of pelvic fractures in cats is that the sharp bone 
edges can lacerate the intestine and cause internal bleeding). Her 
first stool was very hard and dry, but her second one was very normal, 
she does not appear dehydrated at all anymore (the skin fold test). I 
think, at this point, she will live, and even recover with time. I 
have asked the vets if anyone has been missing a cat with her 
description, but they have not had her reported to their offices. I 
have not called the animal league yet, but plan to do so. I posted a 
notice in town, on a public note board, where everyone goes, and no 
responses so far. I have a feeling she was dumped. The story told to 
me by the kids who brought her to me for help is that she just 
appeared at his house. She had not been seen around there until the 
day she showed up, and he immediately brought her to me. I plan to 
keep her rather than adopting her out like I have done with my past 
rescues (we've become very attached to her already, she has a very 
sweet soul). I'll update everyone after I get her to the vet, and let 
you all know what is wrong with her as soon as I know.


Jenn
http://ucat.us
http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
 
~~~
If the cat is dehydrated, she need fluids in a hurry. She may not 
be able to drink enough on her own and may need intravenous fluids.  
She also needs good nutrition. I don't know if any of the supplements 
you mentioned is advisable for her.  I am not a vet and cannot give 
you medical advise.  I can only tell you what I have seen and heard on 
the Animal Planet shows about medical care of cats. Cats can develop 
both kidney and liver problems after not eating for several days.
If you don't know how long she had been without food or water, 
you can't know the extent of any medical problems. I hope you have 
taken her to a vet for advice. . A vet is the only one who can tell 
you if she has any of these medical problems and determine the proper 
course of treatment. A  vet can also determine if she has a microchip 
that can help find her family.  
Have you called your local humane society or other local 
shelters to see if they have had any calls for a missing cat matching 
her description? These resources can probably also give you more 
medical information than you can get from many of the people who post 
and read these messages.
I absolutely would not give her any sports drinks. I don't 
trust most of them for humans and I don't even want to think about 
what they can do to cats.
The last posting I have seen from you was from yesterday. What 
is the latest information on this cat?


Laurie B. Oliver



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Re: Recent losses

2005-05-29 Thread Lernermichelle




Thank you. I am sorry that I have not been able to respond to any 
individual posts, even (or maybe especially) about losses. I of course 
feel horrible for every loss. I am just way too drained to participate or write 
anything. I'm sorry.
Michelle

In a message dated 5/27/05 10:22:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  I am trying to step out of my own grief and offer condolences to others 
  who have had losses. Michelle and Marlene,I think we have just had 
  a rough week. Michelle lost both Fern and Pepsi on Sunday, I lost Andy 
  on Monday, and Marlene lost Digby on Tuesday.I just got the call 
  today from the vet that Andy's ashes are back and I can pick him up when I am 
  ready. But I just couldn't do it today. I may go in the 
  morning. I don't know why I am dreading that part so much. 
  
  Anyway, I just wanted to tell you both how very sorry I am for your 
  incredible losses. I can empathize withyou and my heart aches with 
  yours.
  
  Jamie
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Re: emergency advice on starved cat needed

2005-05-29 Thread Del Daniels



You don't sound crazed, you sound like a wonderful 
person who is full of caring. We all have regrets and have learned by our 
experiences. Pets to Bones and hugs to you.
Del

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 12:31 AM
  Subject: Re: emergency advice on starved 
  cat needed
  
  I look at it this way... if they wanted the cat 
  in the first place, they would have posted her as missing at all the local 
  vet's offices, so I've done enough already. 
  
  I just went to tend to her, and she can't get 
  up. Her back is very unstable now. She is going to need surgery to stabilize 
  the fractures (I am sure it is her back now). I'm going to call around 
  tomorrow and see how much it is going to cost. If there is any way I can get 
  her fixed, I will do it. I REFUSE to let this happen AGAIN. It's almost as if 
  I have been given another chance to do the right thing this time. I don't know 
  if you remember me ever telling you guys about Do-Dah... he broke his back, 
  and at the time I was told to euthanise him and was not given any other 
  options, and even if I had had them at the time, I could never have raised the 
  funds to get him fixed (I was 8 months pregnant at the time and couldn't 
  work). Then there was KiKi, he was hit by a car and I did not get to him in 
  time, and he died because I wasn't responsible enough to keep him indoors. And 
  then Moogie, who looked as sick as this cat did when I first got her, she 
  died, and I've already gottenBones past that point with home nursing. 
  This is SO deja-vu, it's almost pushing me in the direction of believing in a 
  higher power. KiKi was hit by a car, most likely this cat was too; Do-Dah 
  broke his back, most likely this cat has too; Moogie was bone thin, 
  dehydrated, and weak, this cat was too. I've regretted my mistakes the last 
  time for years, and have always wanted to "make it right", and now, here it 
  is, right in front of me. I am NOT going to let this cat die from injuries 
  that can be fixed. I don't care if I have to work 60 hour weeks and beg on the 
  street with a tin cup. I'm going to find out which vet around here can DO this 
  kind of surgery tomorrow, and I'm going to ask them if I can arrange to send 
  donations directly to their office. If that's doable, then I will do a very in 
  depth donations campaign online and see if I can get some funding that way 
  too. Of course, I plan to spend every dime I have to spare on her too. Pay 
  rent, buy cat food, buy the minimal amount of human groceries, and put 
  everything else into Bones. I am NOT going to be forced into the same corner 
  again, I refuse to take no for an answer this time. I will buy this cat a 
  wheelchair if she needs one. This is not happening to me again! If this is 
  some sort of test, I will pass it, If this is some sort of redemption, I will 
  be redeemed. I am not going to fail, I will not let this cat down! I know I 
  must sound crazed, but if you had been in my shoes, you would be thisway 
  too.
  Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html 
  
  
  ~~~I 
  collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who 
  must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker 
  collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a 
  free can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for 
  Bazil!
  
  If you use KMR, even just one can, please ask me for the mailing address 
  you can send them to, to help feed Bazil!
  
  

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meet_Jersey

2005-05-29 Thread stany petrov

Hi all again,
I just forgot that 2 months ago I put a picture of Jersey in a photography contest online. 
You can see him here:
http://www.usa101.com/en/usaodav/pv_photo.php?entry_id=7508
Stan
---BeginMessage---

Tracy,
I will definitely make Jersey an indoor cat because he has FeLV+ and I care for the cats as a whole.
To be honest, it is hard to get a professional vet without recs. The hospital I took Jersey was professional but they are very pessimistic and expensive also (I already paid there 400 for 2visits).
Once Iget him successfuly on his back legs I will start looking for a professional in the FeLV.
My zip codeis 43607 (Toledo,OH, Detroit, MI).So, if anybody knows a qualified vetin radius 100- 150miles, plase let me know.
thanks again for the non- stopping assistance.
StanFrom: "Weese, Tracy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Jersey_questionDate: Sun, 29 May 2005 20:47:43 -0400I don't know how long this will take, but I have been reading your messages about Jersey and am hoping that he can recover.I do feel strongly that you should consider making in an indoor only cat considering his FeLV+ status and now this issue with his legs.I know people think this will be so hard on the cat, but I have taken several cats of various ages from farms and alleys and they have done just fine.It will be an adjustment at first.Maybe you have already done this and I'm just reading the messages which talk about when he was living in NYC.In any 
event.I hope he does get better. 2 cans of baby food is a lot more than many folks can get into their sick cats.And do try to find a vet that is a little more aggressive.Once you make it clear that you are not going to PTS just bec. a cat is FeLV+, then often the vet will get on board.Too often people just give up and so vets never really have to treat a FeLV+ cat beyond diagnosis.Tracy- Original Message -From: stany petrovTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSent: 5/29/2005 8:31:31 PMSubject: Re: Jersey_questionhi again,One question for the weak back legs?How long does it usually takes to make the cat use his/ her back legs again?2- 3 days, week, 10 days?thanks in advanceStan



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Re: meet_Jersey

2005-05-29 Thread Terri Brown




How handsome!!!

Good luck with your decisions with him.

Terri

  - Original Message - 
  From: stany petrov 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 9:07 PM
  Subject: meet_Jersey
  
  
  
  Hi all again,
  I just forgot that 2 months ago I put a picture of Jersey in a photography 
  contest online. 
  You can see him here:
  http://www.usa101.com/en/usaodav/pv_photo.php?entry_id=7508
  Stan


Re: Jersey_question

2005-05-29 Thread Barbara Lowe



try posting the question on www.petfinder.org website. they have 
bulletin boards where you can post about various topics and as I recall there is 
a health board so maybe if you put in your subject header-looking for great vet 
in Toledo Ohio--you might get some responses. 
Sometimes too it just takes a little aggressiveness 
on the pet owner's part to jumpstart a vet into action. call the vet's office 
and ask to speak to the vet you saw over the phone and state your case as Tracy 
suggested. (no need to make an appt to just state your determination.) If the 
vet says they can't help, then ask them to recommend a specialist. 
oh, also on petfinder site you can type in your zip 
code under rescue and shelter search and it'll bring up a list of rescues in 
your area. you could try calling any cat rescue that has special needs kitties 
and ask them for a vet reference. 
good luck. praying hard for Jersey.
Barbara

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  stany 
  petrov 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 8:56 PM
  Subject: Re: Jersey_question
  
  
  
  Tracy,
  I will definitely make Jersey an indoor cat because he has FeLV+ and I care 
  for the cats as a whole.
  To be honest, it is hard to get a professional vet without recs. The 
  hospital I took Jersey was professional but they are very pessimistic and 
  expensive also (I already paid there 400 for 2visits).
  Once Iget him successfuly on his back legs I will start looking for a 
  professional in the FeLV.
  My zip codeis 43607 (Toledo,OH, Detroit, MI).So, if anybody 
  knows a qualified vetin radius 100- 150miles, plase let me 
  know.
  thanks again for the non- stopping assistance.
  StanFrom: "Weese, Tracy" 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: 
  felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgTo: 
  felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Jersey_questionDate: 
  Sun, 29 May 2005 20:47:43 -0400I don't know how long this will 
  take, but I have been reading your messages about Jersey and am hoping that he 
  can recover.I do feel strongly that you should consider making in 
  an indoor only cat considering his FeLV+ status and now this issue with his 
  legs.I know people think this will be so hard on the cat, but I 
  have taken several cats of various ages from farms and alleys and they have 
  done just fine.It will be an adjustment at first.Maybe 
  you have already done this and I'm just reading the messages which talk about 
  when he was living in NYC.In any event.I hope he 
  does get better. 2 cans of baby food is a lot more than many folks can get 
  into their sick cats.And do try to find a vet that is a little 
  more aggressive.Once you make it clear that you are not going to 
  PTS just bec. a cat is FeLV+, then often the vet will get on 
  board.Too often people just give up and so vets never really have 
  to treat a FeLV+ cat beyond 
  diagnosis.Tracy- Original Message 
  -From: stany petrovTo: 
  felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSent: 5/29/2005 8:31:31 PMSubject: 
  Re: Jersey_questionhi again,One question for 
  the weak back legs?How long does it usually takes to make the cat use 
  his/ her back legs again?2- 3 days, week, 10 days?thanks in 
  advanceStan


Re: meet_Jersey

2005-05-29 Thread Nina




Oh Stan, what a handsome fellow your Jersey is. I'm praying you and he
find the help you need. There is an internet group for assisted
feeding, (with syringes). Here's the link:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Assisted-Feeding/

Getting him to eat the baby food is good, any food is good right now,
but baby food doesn't have all the good stuff he needs to stay strong,
(like Taurine and maybe potassium if that is the problem with his back
legs). If he won't eat on his own and you need to syringe feed him,
(force feed him using a feeding syringe, (no needle), you can put
vitamins and supplements in with his food to make sure he's getting the
nutrition he needs. People use a syringe because they can load it up
with food, (instead of medicine), and slowly get the cat to swallow it
by plunging the food into his mouth. The folks on the assisted feeding
group could help you with things like that. Give them a little history
about you and what's going on with Jersey, tell them you've never done
assisted feeding before and ask for their help. You really need a vet
that will help you do what's best for Jersey. I'm afraid most vets are
expensive though. You might as well find one that you trust to help
you do whatever you need to for that handsome fellow of yours. I can
"hear" how much you love Jersey. We're all praying for the two of
you. Please let us know how you are doing.
Nina

stany petrov wrote:

  
  
  Hi all again,
  I just forgot that 2 months ago I put a picture of Jersey in a
photography contest online. 
  You can see him here:
  http://www.usa101.com/en/usaodav/pv_photo.php?entry_id=7508
  Stan
  
  
  
  
  

  

Subject:

Re: Jersey_question
  
  

From: 
"stany petrov" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  

Date: 
Sun, 29 May 2005 20:56:35 -0400
  
  

To: 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  

  
  

  

To: 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  

  
  
  
  
  Tracy,
  I will definitely make Jersey an indoor cat because he has FeLV+
and I care for the cats as a whole.
  To be honest, it is hard to get a professional vet without recs.
The hospital I took Jersey was professional but they are very
pessimistic and expensive also (I already paid there 400 for 2visits).
  Once Iget him successfuly on his back legs I will start looking
for a professional in the FeLV.
  My zip codeis 43607 (Toledo,OH, Detroit, MI).So, if anybody
knows a qualified vetin radius 100- 150miles, plase let me know.
  thanks again for the non- stopping assistance.
  Stan
  
  
  
  
  
From: "Weese, Tracy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Jersey_question
Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 20:47:43 -0400

I don't know how long this will take, but I have been reading your
messages about Jersey and am hoping that he can recover.I do feel
strongly that you should consider making in an indoor only cat
considering his FeLV+ status and now this issue with his legs.I know
people think this will be so hard on the cat, but I have taken several
cats of various ages from farms and alleys and they have done just
fine.It will be an adjustment at first.Maybe you have already done
this and I'm just reading the messages which talk about when he was
living in NYC.

In any event.I hope he does get better. 2 cans of baby food is a
lot more than many folks can get into their sick cats.And do try to
find a vet that is a little more aggressive.Once you make it clear
that you are not going to PTS just bec. a cat is FeLV+, then often the
vet will get on board.Too often people just give up and so vets never
really have to treat a FeLV+ cat beyond diagnosis.

Tracy

- Original Message -
From: stany petrov
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: 5/29/2005 8:31:31 PM
Subject: Re: Jersey_question


hi again,
One question for the weak back legs?
How long does it usually takes to make the cat use his/ her back
legs again?
2- 3 days, week, 10 days?
thanks in advance

Stan
  
  





Re: Jersey_question

2005-05-29 Thread Barbara Lowe



just wondering if you saw these two on the 
felineleukemia website. never having been to Ohio i have no clue if they are 
close or far but maybe you could call them to see if they can recommend anyone 
nearer to you?
Dr. Michele Messner and Dr. Julie Brown 
HeroldCreekside Animal Clinic4434 Akron/Wadsworth Road.Norton, Ohio 
44203Phones. 330-334-5891 or 330-336-8873The Ohio State 
UniversityCollege of Veterinary Medicine101 Sisson Hall, 1900 Coffey 
RoadColumbus OH 43210Telephone: (614) 292-1171Fax: (614) 
292-7185http://www.vet.ohio-state.edu/docs/ 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  stany 
  petrov 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 8:56 PM
  Subject: Re: Jersey_question
  
  
  
  Tracy,
  I will definitely make Jersey an indoor cat because he has FeLV+ and I care 
  for the cats as a whole.
  To be honest, it is hard to get a professional vet without recs. The 
  hospital I took Jersey was professional but they are very pessimistic and 
  expensive also (I already paid there 400 for 2visits).
  Once Iget him successfuly on his back legs I will start looking for a 
  professional in the FeLV.
  My zip codeis 43607 (Toledo,OH, Detroit, MI).So, if anybody 
  knows a qualified vetin radius 100- 150miles, plase let me 
  know.
  thanks again for the non- stopping assistance.
  StanFrom: "Weese, Tracy" 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: 
  felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgTo: 
  felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Jersey_questionDate: 
  Sun, 29 May 2005 20:47:43 -0400I don't know how long this will 
  take, but I have been reading your messages about Jersey and am hoping that he 
  can recover.I do feel strongly that you should consider making in 
  an indoor only cat considering his FeLV+ status and now this issue with his 
  legs.I know people think this will be so hard on the cat, but I 
  have taken several cats of various ages from farms and alleys and they have 
  done just fine.It will be an adjustment at first.Maybe 
  you have already done this and I'm just reading the messages which talk about 
  when he was living in NYC.In any event.I hope he 
  does get better. 2 cans of baby food is a lot more than many folks can get 
  into their sick cats.And do try to find a vet that is a little 
  more aggressive.Once you make it clear that you are not going to 
  PTS just bec. a cat is FeLV+, then often the vet will get on 
  board.Too often people just give up and so vets never really have 
  to treat a FeLV+ cat beyond 
  diagnosis.Tracy- Original Message 
  -From: stany petrovTo: 
  felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSent: 5/29/2005 8:31:31 PMSubject: 
  Re: Jersey_questionhi again,One question for 
  the weak back legs?How long does it usually takes to make the cat use 
  his/ her back legs again?2- 3 days, week, 10 days?thanks in 
  advanceStan


Re: emergency advice on starved cat needed

2005-05-29 Thread Nina




Jenn,
My mom bought a "heating pad" made especially for cats. I'm not sure
which one she got, I'll ask her. I did a quick search for heating pads
designed for cats, (to not get too hot). Here's the link:
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/pic/article.cfm?aid=511

I also heard about a supplement for inflammation on my IBD list. It's
used for arthritis in humans, I think. I don't know that much about it
yet. It's called Lyprinol. The two ladies that are trying the
Lyprinol have been adding one capsule to a day's rations, just to be on
the safe side. So far we're getting good reports. I'm thinking of
using it for Zevon's back problems. Why don't you ask your vet if
they've heard of it? Here's the paste from the IBD list:

Lyprinol is a brand name. It's available in a lot of 
places---Walgreens probably even has it. I looked at the Vitamin 
Shoppe on line($32) and at www.wholesalesupplementstore.com ($23). The 
gelcaps are tiny and hard to divide up into different doses, but Dana 
has been communicating with Enzymatic Therapy, the distributor, whose 
rep said to give a cat a whole capsule.


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  Thanks, I gave her a very small kitten
litter pan, but you are right, she still hurts when she gets into it
(it has 3 inch tall sides). I was thinking I needed something
shallower, and you are right, I DO have a 9x11 Pyrex baking pan that
would be ideal! Thanks for reminding me! 
  
  She seems the most comfortable if she
is on a heating pad. I have one of those microwavable ones (with the
soft gel inside), but it gets cold after a couple of hours, and then I
have to move her a little to get it out and re-heat it. Does anyone
know ofa brand of electric heating pad that does not get too hot, but
just warm? It's been my experience that most electric heating pads get
too hot to lay on for extended periods, and I'm not sure she CAN get up
on her own if it gets too hot. Brenda, the Sphynx rescue lady I help
out even had a kitten DIE from being left on a heating pad, so I'm
being very cautious.
  
  
Jenn
  http://ucat.us
  http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
  
  
  ~~~
Hi, To help her not to move very much and not to step very high you may
want to try the following: For a "Litter Pan" that is easy to use take
apart a carrier, using the bottom part put a large "Pyrex" pan filled
with litter in it. The reason for this is using the bottom of the
carrier with cut down on the litter being kicker all over the place. And
the reason for the "Pyrex" pan is due to its weight it will not be
tipped over and also it is so easy to disinfect. 
  
  
  

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